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May 26, 2025 • 40 mins

Ben Maller talks about who gets to wear the dunce cap for Rick Carlisle's Pacers blowing a 20pt lead, what got into the Knicks to inspire the comeback, the Scott Foster "the extender" conspiracy, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome, it's our number wand our one.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Of the pod. Happy holiday to you.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's a special day here Memorial Day, and here we're
doing live radio overnight the Knickerbockers and the Pacers Game
three of the Eastern Conference Finals. Who gets to wear
the Dunce cap for Rick Carlile's Pacers. They blew a
twenty point lead at home?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Who goofed? I've got to know?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Also, what got into Tom Thibodeau's Nicks to inspire the comeback?
The Knicks on life support there down twenty and Scott
Foster the extender was the official for game three?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Are you buying into the conspiracy?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Or is it just a wild kwinkie dink We'll talk
about that as well.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's all coming your way right now here.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
It is our number one, a cant Man Doude situation.
Welcome in not be beginning of another week of the
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What yeah?

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not the Mecca in New York, the mecca of sports
in America anyway. On Sunday, Sunday, Sunday holiday weekend, the
Hoosier State Hoo's Your Daddy, Indianapolis, the site of the

(02:44):
Indy five hundred, the iconic race. Even if you don't
really like racing, you watch that. Right, there's two races
you're supposed to watch, supposed to watch, the Daytona five
hundred if you're you're not really a NASCAR person, and
then the Indy five hundred.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
So that was going on, and.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Then at night downtown Indianapolis was jumping all those annoying
New Yorkers paying a visit to Indianapolis for the basketball
game Eastern Conference Finals. Game number three had Jalen Brunson
and the Knicks on life support, choking a couple of
games at home, and now in a position where they

(03:20):
have to do something that has never happened before. They
have to become the first team to lose the first
two games at home in a conference final and come
back and win, taking on Tyrese Halliburton and the upstart Pacers.
So I don't know if you're watching or not, maybe
a whether it's pretty good. Most places you were out
doing stuff, having a good time, perhaps, And we watched.

(03:40):
We watched, as we like to say, as a public
service announcement, so you would not have to. And what
did we watch, Well, we watched a dud of a
game early on for the Knicks, and then the plot twist.
The plot twist is Carl Anthony Towns super charged.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Up, up, and away.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
He only had four points over the first thirty six
minutes of the game, was in foul trouble and then
put up a twenty burger in the fourth quarter, twenty
of his twenty four down the stretch run and Jalen Brunson,
who was also in foul trouble he had twenty three
points and the Knickerbockers down twenty late second quarter looking

(04:21):
like doom and gloom for New York and then they
come all the way back and they beat the Pacers
one oh six to one hundred the final and so
the Indiana team still leading this series two games to one,
as Carl Anthony Towns also had fifteen rebounds in this.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Game a monster performance.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Tyres Halliburton quiet led the Pacers though with twenty points
and six assists, and Miles Turner had nineteen. Game four
will be played on Tuesday night. Tickets are not available
for that, so let's get into it. We will discuss
the question here who gets to wear the Indiana colored

(05:05):
dunce cap for Rick Carlile's Pacers.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
You blow a twenty point lead at home? What do
you think of you?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
That the Boston Celtics blowing twenty point leads at home?

Speaker 1 (05:14):
But he's wrong with you. It's inexcusable.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
So I've got Netflix, Fever, and Goomba, and we will
combine all of these things together and we are going
to make a value meal and you can enjoy the value.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
He goes to holidays. So it's like a value meal situation.
So A.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I saw the T shirts. The NBA loves themes. They're
all about the themes. And so the Indiana Pacers officials
handed out the gold and blue, the golden blue team
colored T shirts there to everyone it appears in attendance
at that game, and they said room baby, room Baby's

(05:56):
what they said on them. To celebrate the very rare,
very rare occasion where the iconic Indy five hundred and
a pro bouncy ball playoff game are going on. So
they put that out there, double header action, and it
was room vroom right, room vroom, right into the wall
driving the struggle bus for the Pacers, who, as I

(06:17):
understand it, I believe I have this right have not
won they've played four times now, four times on Indy
five hundred day and r zero to four in those
in those games, Now, what they should have done instead
of handing out a room baby shirt, right, a shirt
that says room baby, they should have handed out a
yellow flag, the caution flag, because the Pacers had a

(06:39):
they did wear the yellow, they had the yellow uniforms on.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
It was a caution situation.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
If you will hear dangerous conditions, dangerous conditions on the court.
There a disgraceful dare I say, inexcusable loss when you're
up by twenty bad job by them and you have
a twenty point the Eastern Conference chance to put a
total choke hold on the series here and you let

(07:09):
the Knicks have a second life here. And last I checked,
like the Knicks these guys and is Patrick ewing out there?
I didn't see him.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Maybe he was there.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I guess what might have been there, But I didn't
see the classic Knicks. These guys are still trying to
write their story, and the Pacers helped them write a
chapter in their story by allowing them to get back
in this game here and have new life. And that's
a shame on you. Situation for Tyrese Haliburton and the Pacers.
Now as for s Pacifics, there's a couple of names

(07:39):
that I jotted down on the notes app on my
phone as I was watching the game here, and they
are the headliner's friend of the show Marcel and Brooklyn's
favorite basketball player Pascal Siaka I'm gonna make sure I
say that properly, and Tyrese Halliburton, those are the two.
If your stars do not shine the brightest, you can't
expect these other scrubs to get it done. Even though
any was at home, and usually the scrub guys played

(08:02):
better at home, but may you were on the court
for the for the majority of that time, Indiana was
up by twenty late.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Second quarter and then in the second half.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
And really the fourth quarter is completely collapsed, outscored by
twenty six from up twenty to losing by six at
the end of the.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Game, and Siakam and Haliburton, they might as.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Well have been watching and having a nice surfing turf
at Saint Elmo's. There the steakhouse which every sports caster,
every sports cast he goes Indianapolis goes to Saint Elmos.
I've been there when I was there years ago when
the Pacers were in the finals, and I was there
because that's just.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
What you do.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
And often what TV does is they'll they'll put the
restaurant on TV because they get like a discount or
they get payola. Now I guess TNT did that too.
They had some kind of side hustle. So it's like
the top restaurant at least for sportscasters. When they Indianapolis,
they got to go to that same albums. No Rick
Carlile squad. Clearly they had a brain fart here as

(09:07):
they did not close the game in general. In general Indiana,
they got complacent. We see this a lot. This is
an epidemic in pro bouncy ball. You get a big
lead and you get complacent, you ease up a little bit,
you cut corners. It's human nature, and so you usually
start with defensively.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
You ease things up, and.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Then that opens the door a little bit, and the
door's unlocked, and so you open that up there and
then you allow a little chip away action New York
chipping away in this game. And once the Pacers then
start losing control, they start losing the lead, then what
happens TTS tight took his syndrome, tight took his syndrome

(09:48):
kicked in for the Indiana Pacers in this game, and
very tough, very tough to play basketball.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
When you were suffering from a tight spinter.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
And we saw that for the Pacers in the fourth
quarter there as it was panic at the disco or
in this case, the field house there in Indianapolis, they
tightened up, they stopped playing free and easy, free and loose,
and then it just was a self fulfilling prophecy where
they just fell apart at the end. Now, in the
fourth quarter, there were stretches that when you were watching this,

(10:19):
you know, it's kind of like when you're watching something
on a streaming service like Netflix and if you have
just continue to watch stuff and it kind of goes through,
Like you know, they have those series where it goes
in the next episode at some point they'll they'll click something.
Are you still watching? Like I felt like Rick Carliss,
are you guys still watching? Because all you're doing is watching,
You're just watching the Knicks runner. Indiana shot twenty six

(10:42):
percent in the fourth quarter, and that was from the
floor and twelve point five percent from three point range. Now,
I didn't play in the NBA. I just do an
overnight show. I don't think that's particularly the good. I
don't think that's particularly good. That's just my position on that.
Here is Rick Carlisle pointing out he's the coach of

(11:02):
the Pacers, pointing out that they really fed up the
end of that game.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
They really screwed that thing up.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Take it was poor Joba closing the third quarter, not
a good enough start to the fourth quarter. Turned it into,
you know, a real back and forth game, and they
executed down the stretch, and we did not execute well enough.
So credit them for fighting.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Hard, hanging hanging in.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
You know, we got a pretty pretty good lead in
the third quarter, didn't do a good enough job of
attacking but also avoiding miscues.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Difficult loss.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
So we'll watch it tomorrow and there are a lot
of things we can do better.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay, so standard cliches there at the end. Indiana was
up twenty late second quarter, they had a sixteen point
lead early third quarter and blow it. Here is Tyree's
halla Burton. Good for him, he actually talked to the
media after a loss. Here's Halliburton pointing out, well, some
offensive issues popped up.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
You has some misshots, you know, five for twenty five
from three. That's not ideal. You know, I thought I
gotta watch film to really see our offensive processes, what
they really were. Felt felt like we got kind of
stagnant on that end, you know. But yeah, we'll see
where we can get better. Watch film and be ready
to go to Frea Game four.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
There you go, just go watch the film. It's all yet.
Just watch the film, all right.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Here's more from Tyrese Haliburton, pointing out here, mister Halliburton
that well, there's some things that he could have done better.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
I was trying to feel out the game, you know,
see who's rotating overs, who the rotations are rotations. Obviously
Mitch is there, yeah, you know, main rim protector, so
when he's coming over, just trying to make the right play. Sure,
but yeah, I could definitely be better there, that's right.
Not watch the film.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
See watch the film.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Areas of improvement. See I can get better for game four.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, I watched the film. I'm gonna go watch the
film too. Get some popcorn, some candy, I'm gonna go
watch the film.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
All right now. Page two.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
So you have the loser side, which is the better story,
then you have the winner side. So who got into
Tom Thibodeau's nicks or what got into them? What got
into Tom Thibodeau's nick or boxers there as they were
futzing around twenty point deficit and even in the early
third quarter, it was like something kicked in late third

(13:12):
So what inspired the comeback?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
So what inspired the comeback?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
So the first thing is they stayed with in reasonable
striking distance. It was a workable number and only down
ten going to the fourth quarters, so that's manageable. And
then it's it's Ted Nugent, It's it's a kitty cat,
it's Karl Anthony Towns cat scratch fever right there, Boom.

(13:37):
We mentioned twenty of twenty four points in the fourth quarter,
and that's how he's supposed to but he very rarely
plays like that in playoff game, Like it's rare that
you get that kind of performance from Carl Anden. Usually
you get the four points over three quarters, you don't
normally get to twenty in the fourth quarter. And we
ripped the guy all the time because he's often hanging
out in the litter box in big moments in the

(13:58):
playoff game. But here he left the or box and
he stepped up. And so if you want to give
him flowers, give him some flowers. I don't like handing
out flowers. But he did a good job. You don't
get extra credit. You're being you're the franchise player with Brunson.
You're you're the B player to the A player. That's
how you're supposed to play. But you did your job.
Good for you do it again, and do it again,

(14:18):
and do it again. All right, now, last word here,
I cannot help myself. I cannot help myself here. Scott
Foster was the lead official at this game, aka you
know what his nickname is.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Kids the Extender.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Scott Foster the Extender was a sign to this game.
I don't want to sign sound too much like a
whack of doodle from San Diego that calls the show,
but listen, this was an issue. When I saw this
during the day, I started texting some people. We were
going back and forth and we're like, all right, well,
there you go. That's the story. Here you go the

(14:54):
direction of the knicks. If you don't know what to do,
take the next pacers were favored by think for in
the game, but Scott Foster was assigned to officiate Game
three between the Knicks and the Pacers, and what do
you know, Surprise, surprise, surprise, the big market Nicks on

(15:14):
life support. They have a modern medical miracle. They come
off the deck down twenty. They extend the series, extend
the series, creating some excitement.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
So are you buying are you buying.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Into the conspiracy with Scott Foster? Or is this just
some kind of wild clinky dink that's the question. What's
the answer. So to me, this isn't even a conspiracy
at this point. I think you're just you're an idiot
if you think it's a conspiracy. It's not a conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
I mean, there's no I mean it's it's at the
point now with Scott Foster where everyone and their mother
know the deal. Yo, right, everyone knows the deal. It's
not a coincidence. It's a pattern at this point. So
stop with stop with you. It's conspiracy. No, it's a
pattern of activity that has taken place here.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Perception is reality.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
And when the NBA mob, when the league office has
a problem on their hands and no one can solve it,
who you gonna call the mob at the NBA, they
turned to their league, GUMBA, and that's Scott Foster. They
put Scott Foster out there, and tada abra, cadabra. Amazing
the percentage of success that Scott Foster officiated games have

(16:31):
where the team that's trailing in a series wins. But again,
it's no, it's a coincidence. It's not some kind of
grand conspiracy. It just feels like it's scripted, like it's
professional wrestling, is what it feels like when Scott Foster's
out there. This man has been part of how many
over the years I've been doing this a long time.

(16:52):
How many times have I come in here after a
playoff game in a series where a team's trailing, they win,
and Scott Foster's doing it and magic deliciously the team
that trailing ends up winning. And uh, you know something's
a little off in your business. When the nick fans
are celebrating during the day when they found out the
official assigned to the game, I.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Mean, it's so stupid, it's.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Like so ridiculous, Like the Nick fazlit we got it, dude,
we got it. We got a new player, we got
the sixth man. It's gonna be We're gonna be on
the power play power play when when, when we're out
there tonight, because Scott Foster's gonna be official. I mean, hell,
Adam Silver, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Seriously?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
It's so great now, I will admit this was an
unorthodox This was an unorthodox, not your standard Scott Foster
special in regards to the fact that the Knicks did win,
but they they won with their bench, all right, they
won with their bench Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns,
even though he came up big late in the fourth quarter,

(17:55):
but they were in fouchil.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Both had four fouls going to the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
However, this feeds in, This feeds in to the theory
you see Scott Foster forcing Tom Thibodeau to play players
on the bench he normally does not play like Foster
because of his foul calling on Brunson and Carl Anthony

(18:20):
Towns that forced the Knickerbockers to play multiple players they
would not normally play. And that turned out to be
the secret sauce in this game. So coaching credit goes
to Scott Foster in this game. And look the NBA
they'll tell you and this will come up. I'm sure
the NBA release a statement. They've done this many times.
They'll say, well, listen, Foster is just an experienced referee

(18:43):
and it's just noise. It's just you know, people trying
to get engagement on social media and all that.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Well, I'm not on social media right now.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I'm on the radio. And you look at this. The
numbers do not lie. The numbers do not lie. And
you don't earn the nickname the extender. You don't earn
that nickname just by coming out of thin air here.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
You got to put some serious work in to get
that nickname.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
And the players, they've done surveys over the years, the
players have voted Scott Foster the most distrusted official in
the NBA. And whether or not it's fair, I think
it is. I believe it is fair based on the
body of work. You are a product. You are what
your record says you are. So based on the body
of work, I would say there's something there right there,

(19:30):
you know, And it's certainly a perception problem if you're
the NBA. At best, it's just a perception problem, right
That's you say, that's it, but you assign him to
the series in this game when the knicks are down.
You're just throwing You're throwing gas on the fire, is
what you're doing. You're just pouring gas on the fire. There.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
And so let's not forget. We don't want to go
way back.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
In the greatest scandal cover up in the history of
professional sports, the Tim Donahey fixing game. Scanned of the
Oughts back in the day and Tim Donahey and Scott Foster,
there were one hundred and thirty four calls between Tim
Donhee and Scott phone calls. I think that magic number.
I have that tattooed in my brain. One hundred and

(20:14):
thirty four if I remember correctly. Phone calls in O
seven in O seven between Scott Foster and Tim Donahey
as donahe was fixing games.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
So there you go. Suspicious about clear.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I mean, he's completely nothing wrong, nothing wrong here at all.
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Don't forget it was mentioned. But this Thursday night we
are just days away. Can almost taste the fresh poutine

(22:47):
that will be in the mouth there coming up on Thursday.
We will be in Vancouver the entire show. We will
not be on the air that night, but we will
be live with the people. So excited it could be fun.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Lrae.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
We have a great time.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
This is the first time we've done something like this
in Vancouver. Over the years, it's been very lucky. I've
met listeners from like I Am Boston, Pittsburgh, done these
in Syracuse, Appleton, Wisconsin, Charleston, South Carolina. We've done la
a bunch of times, Vegas, Seattle, all over the place,
and now we're going to do one in Vancouver. So

(23:22):
it's gonna be a lot of fun. Hopefully you can
make it if you're in the area. I know it's
not geographically desirable to just all of a sudden show
up in Canada if you're not you know, if you're
not from from there. But if you're in the Pacific Northwest,
you know, Lary, you're from the Pacific north you can
drive up.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
You can totally drive up now I do.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
I did have a couple of listeners message me and
say that their passports were not gonna make it.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Ah. Yeah, that's why we needed to say it early enough.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
We said it. I don't we said it well, we
talked about it could be rumored.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well we mentioned rumor. But yeah, the passport thing is
an issue and a lot.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Of people who don't have passports. There will be more
mallard meet and greets throughout the year.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Can you just like I thought, there's some people are
saying you can just kind of over show your driver's
license sometimes.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
No, I don't know, maybe that could work. Don't take
my word for it. I don't know it Like regular
border crossing.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I don't know anyway. The meet and greet will be
on Thursday night, that is the twenty ninth. Today is
our Monday show, which is the twenty sixth. You could
do the math on that. It'll be a court side
on Maine court side on Man. I've not been to
this place. It looks great, just wonderful food and just
TV's all over the place, this great sports bar. Really
excited about it. So we'll be there from flight. Assuming

(24:28):
there's no delays on the flight, we'll be there. I know,
no mechanical problems or anything like that, but we'll be
there from six thirty seven till ten. Coops told us
he's only there for sixty minutes. He'll leave early, but
for the rest of us, we're planning on stay.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Coops party. I did not say sixty minutes.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
You said you're gonna check out early, and I said
maybe not till ten.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Well, why not. If you say you're gonna be somewhere
till ten, you got to be there. Then he's gonna
do an Irish goodbye. I never said that. He's not
gonna say said anything. Meet and greet.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
You're invited to the meeting. You got to be at
the greet. You said ten, I didn't make this schedule.
Somebody else made the schedule. I didn't make the schedule.
That's the schedule. And I do not do Irish goodbyes,
by the way, Yeah, I think you do well.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Then I expect you to go around to every single
person and say goodbye. It was wonderful.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what I did the last
meeting Vegas. About that, I don't recall that, I definitely did.
What about What about Eddy is the one that did
the Irish goodbye?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
What about the mouth What about the mouthwash guy? Did
you say goodbye to and we haven't heard from him?
Mouthwashing bike?

Speaker 6 (25:27):
Yes, he closed the place down. We left and he
was still there. He gave me a guilt trip when
I left.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
He was like, oh, you can't leave, you know, He's
give me the whole rap, and I'm like, dude, I
gotta go. He was giving me a hard time. He
wanted to take me to the Bolagio to jump in
the water. Hope he's all right. I mean we haven't
heard from him in a couple of months, right, he's
kind of vanished there. Mouthwash mic Maybe he's in jail.
They sobered him up. He could be like the Vegas
pen he arrested him. He's sober now.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
He's back, you know, could be let's hope for the best,
or something bad happened. Who knows. I don't know anyway.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Mallard Meat Greek coming up Thursday, court Side on Maine,
seven to ten, right there on Main Street, Vancouver, British Columbia.
Be there or don't be there and miss out on it.
And we don't have any other events scheduled. We're supposed
to do some other events, but nothing schedule. So if
nothing scheduled, nothing's guaranteed. But that's the first one of
the year Vegas, likely in August, probably sometime in August,

(26:18):
but who knows.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
You never know.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Things happen. Is talk of one in the Bay area,
this talk of one in LA. There's a lot of talk.
There's a lot of talk there. You go, let's see
page down. Super Markeut Steve says, we never said Poppy
was wrong about Scott Foster. We just said we didn't
want to hear him speak because he's a horrible caller
to talk radio.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
That's super market.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Steve Troy says, these gritty never give up Nicks pulling
off the epic rally in seven. Yes, gritty gritty Knicks
blowing lead at home. That is unforgivable in game one?
What else do we have? Page down here? Hoo's your
bill writes in and says, Scott Foster so broke, corrupt.

(27:00):
He goes to McDonald's and puts a shake on layaway.
He has rip in his couch.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
There you go. All right, I want to say that's
Scott Foster things.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
I think it a little bit overblown, at least at
least in this exact instance.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Well, that's your opinion, the Coop. You are entitled your opinion.
You can be wrong.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
Well, there was there was a moment late in the
game when Karl Anthony Towns was driving to or it
was a maybe it was it was Jalen Brunson driving
to the hoop to put the Knicks up six late,
and he called a foul and it was a total
bs on. They could they challenge it and it's not
I don't know it was it was. It was the

(27:39):
the other the other way around.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Coop's carrying the water for the NBA with that record,
show that Coop is in the tank with the league
office right there. He's he thinks there's nothing funny.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
If I if you, if I'd said hey, if I
I text a bunch.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Of people in the afternoon when I saw I was
on my messing around my phone, I saw that Foster
was gonna ficiate the game. So if I just said, hey,
bet on, take the Knicks plus the four, if you
didn't see the won, they won.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I mean I know how they got there. They won
the game.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
It always seems to work out when Scott Foster is officiating. Bill,
who's your bills?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
All upset? He said? Scott Foster?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Where his underwear with blank blank in them? He says,
what else do we have? Page dan uh oh, our
buddy JT. The wingman who has been to more mallor
meet and greets than anyone, He says, driving home from
the Indy five hundred, appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Keeping me awake. Look at that. What a boss man
going to the Indy five hundred. Did he see the
Wienie races? Then, well that was the day before though, right.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
It wasn't like an opening thing for I don't know,
I don't They did a really cool helicopter. You see
the helicopter thing where the helicopters were flying around over
the cars. That was pretty cool, you did, I check
out the videos? Pretty wild, somewhat dangerous, I would think,
But what do I know? Chip and the Q's rights
and says eight plus on the Mallard monologue, no tickets available.
I found there's tickets available for the next Knicks versus

(28:58):
Pacers game on the secondary mark market. But as expected,
the cost is outrageous, even for those bleed seats, he says.
Uncle Mark writes in Uncle Mark says, as a Dodger fan,
how worried should I be?

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Now?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Listen the way I look at this, Mark, you shouldn't
be worried because they don't care. The Dodgers are playing
with no sense of urgency. They don't give an f.
They are a country club outfit Dodger Baseball. It's embarrassing
and you're not allowed. You know, the LA media is
soft on the Dodgers, and they won't rip them, and
they'll look the other way. It is a matter of
it's pathetic. Like again, I've fired Dave Roberts. Eight I

(29:36):
fired Dave Roberts. The way they're playing and the culture,
the Dodgers have with these starting pitchers unless they're one
hundred percent to have seven starting pitchers on the on
the injured list, seven of them. So someone's losing their job, right,
I mean, you're allowing it to happen. Uh, you're allowing
these guys to go out there, or the medical staffs incompetent.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
But some he's screwing up royally. But they don't care.
They just figure that this is the arrogance.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
And they won last year with a ragtag team in
the playoffs. By the time they got the playoffs, and
the Dodger like, they figure, who cares, you know, we
won all those games early to start the year, and
there's still gonna be a playoff team.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
It's a long one in the playoffs. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
It doesn't We don't care about home field advantage or
any of this stuff. We don't have to set the
all time record, you know, just like the Yo Tani things.
A great example. Oh Tani could be pitching right now
in the major leagues. From what I've been told, he
could be pitching right now. But they are going slow.
They are going so slow they are they're they're waiting
around right there.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
They're gonna you know, we'll get there at some point.
It's ridiculous his dance. You are about to lose old
job because you are detaining me. Yeah, there you go.
You gonna lose. Everyone's going, all right, let's go to
the phones.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
It is a call in show, and let's say hello
to a man who loves his Indiana Pacers, Sewn the
hood Guy, a loyal minion to the Pacers.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Hello, Shawn the hood guy.

Speaker 7 (30:59):
Man. And I ain't call the first two games because
we won, so it wasn't no need to talk. We
lost this game, so it's the discussion is in the
losing locker rooms.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
So this is a losing locker room call, that's right.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, you know, tremendous losers there blowing that twenty point leader.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
Oh you know, I learned that that from you. So,
I mean, they had they they had them, but we
lost it because they took their foot off the gas.
They felt too comfortable at home. When you at home,
you're suposed to just go on and take care of them,
get them out the way. But I already know this
series is gonna go six or seven, but it's gonna
be about who's going to get the most wins on

(31:37):
the road. It's not about at home now, it's about
every team on the road.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well, hey, if the Pacers, if the Pacers just win
all the road games though win that, they'll won the series.

Speaker 7 (31:48):
Yeah, but they didn't win at home. They were supposed
to take care.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
No, I know what I was saying.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
The Knicks they had they the Pacers have road cord advantage.
They get to play more games on the road, So
road cord advantage goes to Indiana.

Speaker 7 (32:00):
Yeah, but man, we can't really count on that. It
all depends on. Look how Minnesota did. Okay, see when
they got back home.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Well, that was a ridiculous. I mean that was that
was a give up situation. That was that was a
regular season random night.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Let's give up? Can kun? I mean that was embarrassed.
That's a play lose by forty two points?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, how do you do?

Speaker 7 (32:22):
I I they.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I know, But why would you die? I mean, what
are you doing?

Speaker 5 (32:28):
You know?

Speaker 1 (32:28):
It's so stupid.

Speaker 7 (32:30):
They got to make that extra money.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Did this happen when we were kids? I don't remember
this happened. Maybe it did.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Maybe I just blocked it out. Maybe this always happened.
Guys are always gutless and quit in the NBA. But
I don't recall that happened. Like got teams would lose
by twenty points. I don't remember them losing by forty
plus points in playoff games. I feel like that's a
modern invention, Like that's more of a modern thing where
it's like, all right, we're down by twenty, let's go
down by thirty.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Let's see if we can get the forty.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
Yeah, that didn't happen in our days. Man, in the eighties,
going all they lost about what twenty?

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Well there was there was.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
There was every once in a while there would be
a gigantic blowout, right the Lakers and Celtics. There was
that famous game at Boston Garden where they destroyed the
Lakers and the Celtics, or but.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
It was rare. It was a phil It happens every
other week in the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
Now, well, maybe maybe some of these arenas should take
turn the air conditioning off and see how they played in.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, oh that's right, Well are they now?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
They're still piping in the crowd noise there in Indianapolis?
Do we know if they're still putting the noise in
the down there?

Speaker 7 (33:30):
They you know, discuss it, but let's play another game.
So they don't play another game, so you know, the
next game, they got to do better, man, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
And I don't have a problem with them. But I
don't have a problem with them pumping in crowd noise.
I don't really care. I think it's fair.

Speaker 7 (33:42):
I mean, but you know, man, the crowd is there. Man,
that's the Indianapolis man. So they just got to do
better and play better.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
That's all I got.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
You, God, thank you, buddy, the Great Seawan the hood guy,
room baby, and he's ready to go. It's a loyal
Pacer fan right there. It's not a fake Pacer fan.
That's not a fraudulent Pacer fan. That's a guy I've
known for years, Sean the Hook. We go back, me
and him, and he's been loyal, a loyal minion to
the Pacers.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
What else do we have? This?

Speaker 2 (34:07):
See page that here. Some of these things are on
the spectrum, some of you knuckleheads.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Who's your bill? Very upset, He's passionate.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
He says, Hey, Coop, I remember my first NBA game too,
He says, no joke. Ben Any five hundred Circle, nineteen
ninety nine reigning sideways, three hundred thousand people, weather mayhem.
We tuned into local Fox AM post race and we
drive out. Next caller, Chip, Chip, Are you saying, Chip,
I just saw Godzilla Man. Okay, outstanding. That's a non

(34:42):
sequitur of a story. But it's fine, and you gotta
have heart. You gotta have heart. I thought this was funny.
So Josh hart was demoted by the Knickerbockers and he
was asked about it.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
He was put to the bench duty.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
He said, it's funny because people were texting me all
day asking if I'm okay. It's like, I don't care.
Josh Harder the Knicks said, I don't care. If I start,
I don't care if I played twenty minutes, if we win,
we went well, I don't if that's true. But he
thought it was amusing. There's a fashion move we'll get
to also, if you're concerned it has. Al Horford announced

(35:15):
his retirement from the Boston Celtics average Al as he
was known well, it turns out he has decided to
not retire. Al Horford instead plans to return for his
nineteenth NBA season, And why.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Not the amount of money they're paying him?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
What the f although the Celtics are gonna have to
trim some fat likely so who knows if al Horfe
will be back in Boston. It is the Ben Malors Show.
Time now for the who am I?

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Game?

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Here it is Knicks center Carl Anthony town Who Kitty
Kat Carl Anthony Towns joined me as the only player
other than me to have twenty plus points and eight
plus rebounds in the fourth quarter of a playoff game
since nineteen ninety seven. Again, Nicks center Karl Anthony Towns

(36:04):
and the game on Sunday Night joined me. Is the
only players to have twenty plus points and eight plus
rebounds in the fourth quarter of a playoff game since
nineteen ninety seven. Who am I? That the question, the answer,
We'll get to it. We'll do it next.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
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Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
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We thank you for hanging out with us on the holiday.
We're here all night, every single night, podcast every day
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Speaker 1 (36:35):
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Speaker 1 (36:52):
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Speaker 1 (37:02):
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Speaker 2 (37:04):
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(37:25):
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Speaker 1 (37:27):
Back to it we go.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Thank God for the Internet. All right, back to it
and time to pay off the who am I Game.
This is where we pretend to be somebody else else.
We call it the Whomi Game in a blatant attempt
to get you to listen a little bit longer.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
And here it is.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Nick Center, Carl Anthony Towns came up big down the stretch.
He joined me, the only other player than me to
have twenty plus points and eight plus rebounds in the
fourth quarter of a playoff game since they kept track
of such things starting in nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
That's the modern era of the NBA. Nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Who am I? That is the question? What is the answer?
And we go to the great unwashed to see if
anyone knows the answer. Femi the number one Uber eastdriver,
who actually played about six minutes in the fourth quarter.
Everyone stopped watching, but Femi got in there. He had
a couple of rebounds and an assist in a basket.
Good job by you, Femi. Closing out that game for
the Wolves and blowout garbage time, he says. Rudy Gobert

(38:25):
is the answer. Supermarcus Steve says, Tim Salmon is the
way to go back back in the day. Who else
do we have a page? Den and we'll skip over
that one. Ferg Dog says Al Horford. Thank god he's
not retiring. Average Al Sean the hood guy from mallor Pro.

(38:46):
It's about Shawn the hood guy as a pacer guy
out there, good looking uniform. Who else do we have?
Hubey Brooks from Mister Nice Guy. That's his answer? Solid
Montreal Expo of yours gone buy Shaquille O'Neil shack from
ob Matthew Bailey tossed out by King Rory. Who else
do we have? Page down count Alfred Chocula from Slim

(39:07):
Tim who is listing live doing it live? A proud chief,
said Dame Lillard, Dame Time from Robbie the Mariner fan
Poppy Foster from Terry in England minute bowl tossed out
by Joe the ghost Runner.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Enzo.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
We're gonna meet Enzo on Thursday. He's a proud vancouverin
he'll be there longtime listening to the show the phenomena.
That is Matthew Dellavedova from our buddy Enzo. Who else
do you have? That's correct? Doctor Popovich, Associate director of
Science at the CDC from Natron Okay, very specific. George
Murasan guests by Manuel in Guardina. That's his answer. Sean

(39:50):
in the Valley of the Sun going with Lawrence Thunderberg,
William Shatner from Perrito. Aj Foyt from j T the
Wingman on the road back to his home there in
Knoxville from Indy.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Do you have an answer, Lorrain No, yes.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
Man, I believe it's Roscoe from my good old chicken
and rocks.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Oh, Roscoe's chicken and waffles. He's staple of Los Angeles. No,
that is not Roscoe's Chicken and waffles. The correct, the answer.
He played for the Dallas Mavericks back in the day.
Dirk Nowitzki of the MAVs back in six.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Was barely alive in O. Six. He had a big
fourth quarter there at O. Six against the Suns.
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