December 6, 2024 • 41 mins
Ben Maller talks about the Packers defense failing to stop the Detroit Lions as the Lions march down the field to kick a game-winning FG on TNF, Matt LeFleur's pregame verbal battle with a Lions fan, what give you pause with the Lions down the stretch, and more!
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it's all about that NFC North skirmish of Packers visiting
the Lions. Good game came down to the bitter end.
Who gets the blame though? The cheese kurts who gets
the blame for them? Matt Lafleur's Packers losing on a
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late field goal? How did you score? The pregame verbal
battle that happened between the Packers coach and a random
Detroit Lion fan. They got into a war of words
and what gives you pause? With the Lions, who are
the top team in the NFC? Is there anything there
that makes you say, hey, wait a minute. As they
head down the home stretch, we'll get to all of
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I appreciate that number one with a bullet all right.
So leading off this playing the hit small Man Play
the Hits is one of our big bosses likes to say,
so I lead this hour from Motown. The curtain went
up on Week fourteen. Week fourteen of the NFL season.
My god, it's a wild out fact. Well usually that
follows Week thirteen. So we had an NFC North slobber
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knocker Jordan Love and the Packers trying to get revenge
as they paid a visit to the great State of
Michigan in a dated Ford Field Litill playdate with Jared
Goff and the Lions. You had al Michael's there. You
knew it's a big game. You knew it was a
big game. Al Michaels Herbie and his new dog, and
they had the call there on the Amazon Solid mashup.
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This is not a game that sucked it. It was
a game that we thought would be pretty good. It
was And if you saw it or not, maybe you
were looking outside the window and doing nothing. You know
that the Packers trying to take the Lion by the
tail and had that work out well. Jared Goff through
not one, not two, but three touchdown passes, and somebody
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named Jake Bates who sounds like a serial killer, had
a thirty five yard field goal as time expired. The
Lions are in the play That Troit Lions are in
the play Did anyone think they weren't gonna make the
playoffs this year? The Lions are in the plus thirty
four to thirty one year Final as they take down
the Pack on a Thursday night game. The Lions in
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the playoffs. The NFC's top team at twelve and one,
and Holy Barry Sanders, Batman, where have you gone? Wayne
Fonce the Lions have broken the franchise record Bobby Lane,
the Curse of Bobby Lane. No more eleven straight wins
for the Lions, and that includes a couple over the
Green Bay Packers and Detroit staying ahead of Minnesota in
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the NFC North. So you got three teams likely in
the playoffs and that division. Lions are in Packers at
nine and four and Minnesota at ten and two. But
the better story is in the losing locker room. So
that is where we will begin our in depth team
coverage as we break this down. So the question for
the class who gets the blame? Cheese curds for matt
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LeFleur and Packers. So I've got medical scrubs, Code Gray
and Riverboat and we will combine all of these things together,
all of these things, and we hope to be as
brave as a lion. That's what we hope to be,
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all right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So a.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Let's start with the Green Bay marching in Chadow society
has reached out to me and we do very well
in northern Wisconsin. I think it's because my brother lives there.
So the Green Bay fans, they've all told me, it's
not that the Packers lost the game, it's the officials
gave the game to the Lions. There were some shady
calls in this game, but that is a smokes and
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don't overlook the thing right in front of your eyes.
The Green Bay Packers defense, for better or worse, was worse.
They sucked at a time you cannot suck. And Jared
Goff was out there and I swear he was wearing
medical scrubs in a large chunk of the fourth quarter there,
the Lions offense was surgical as they sliced up the
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Packer defense, and it was like a child playing with
playto It wasn't anything exotic. It wasn't like they had
reinvented the playbook. Detroit the better team here. They had
a lot of success running very basic NFL plays, the
dig root or route. If you will right over the middle,
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right over the middle, you're supposed to defend the middle,
and they didn't do that. And also a lot of
timing play little screen passes, good blocking, bad tackling, good blocking.
Jared Goff completed thirty two passes. My math I jotted
this down. I think it was the final thirteen passes
that he completed and just terrible tackling technique. Detroit ends
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up with twenty seven first downs. They had up almost
four hundred yards office three hundred ninety one. But it's
how they were able to methodically hold the Packers offense
off the field converted. It's forty seven percent on third down,
but four or five eighty percent on fourth down and
eighty percent in the red zone. So the Detroit Lions
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getting or done, although they did not get it done
against the points spread, the pack could not get the
Lions offense off the field. Detroit ran seventy six place
the Cheeseheads ran forty five places. That's a plus thirty
one advantage if my malor math is correct, and so
it's rather shocking that it came down to a field goal.
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If you run thirty one more place then the other team,
generally speaking, you're winning by a lot. You don't need
to wind the clock down and get a late field
goal to win the game. And let's also not overlook
the fact that while Jordan Love in the second half
was good in the beginning of the game, he was
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garbage at the start. Oh you're not supposed to say
that he's the new savior of the Packers. He was
bad in the first half and the Packers were playing uphill. Now, fortunately,
thanks to some generosity by the Lions, the Packers were
able to get right back and get the lead within
four minutes in the second half. But the first half
was a struggle and then they were playing uphill after that.
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Now turning the page, let me get to the lines
in a minute. We have some great audio here that
I want to play. So the Packers coach Matt LeFleur,
Matt Lafleur, there was an incident before the game. Okay
he saw this or not before. So there was a
heated exchange that happened that there was a temperature that
had risen up in the room. There was an exchange
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with the Lion fan. This is pregame, so the game
hadn't even kicked off yet, and from what I have
been able to uncover, so this guy was this Lions
fan was invited onto the field for the pregame festivity.
I think he was there to hold the flag if
I read properly and well, rather than me. Matt Lafer
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started yelling at the guy. The guy was yelling at him.
They went back and forth. But here's Matt Lafleur breaking
down the packer coach on how that went down. Take
a listen.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
He was talking junk to our players, giving him the
throat slash sign, and you know, you're trying to de
escalate it, and then he gets in my face. So
I thought it was pretty unsportsman like, like I've never
seen that. I've been on many fields and usually they
police that much better. I just I thought it was
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an arrogant fan that you know, wanted to get in
part of the action, and just I would like to
see security or something step in there and get him
out of there, because it's it's he shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Doing that, Oh I should be doing now. At the
beginning of that, I think it's a pretty funny drop.
Can we just play the guy when he said he
was talking junk to our players. I think that's a
funny drop on the show. Let's hear that again that
beginning part. Let's say we can hear that.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
He was talking junk to our players.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Oh yeah, right, there isn't that a funny drop out
of context drop? Wouldn't that be a fun drop on
the show, like out of context. I think that would
be great. And he doesn't say anyone by name. You
don't even know who that is, Matt Lafleur. I think
that's good. All right, So let's get to the scorecard.
Here the judges' scorecards. How did you score the pregame
verbal battle royale between the Packers coach Matt Lafleur and
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Joe Blow Lions fan. How did you score it? So
I go to my scorecard. I scored it a ten
to nine, ten nine advantage in favor of the fan.
I love the fact that Matt Lafleur is talking about unsportsmanlike, hey, hey, coach,
he's a fan. He's not an athlete. Uh, it's not
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high school, it's not little league. He's just a drunk
guy or somebody that's on the spectrum who's out there
now in the hospital. They would call this a code gray,
a combative person, a random schmendering. This guy gets invited
onto the field. Not everyone gets to go out in
the field before an NFL game. This guy gets invited
on the field. He ends up thinking he's part of
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the show, right, I'm part of the show. And then
he's like doing double duty. Not only is he there
as a fan, but he's a enemy combatant. He's got
he's the flag guy, he's the instigator guy. He works
himself into a lather, talking trash. And while the guy
is certainly a douche canoe, who does that, right? I
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mean really, who does? I mean a douche. That's a
that's a douche move. But that's a real all right,
that's a fanatic. Fan is short for fanatic. The guys
that die hard. He had convinced himself he was actually
on the Lions. He had convinced himself that it's like
the fourth wall had been broken, and he was in
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the show. He was on the stage, and he's a
Foxhole guy. He's a Foxhole guy. And I thought that
was that was just great. All right? Last word, let's
circle back to the Lions, the team that is the
top team on the NFC side of the bracket, and
was zero in on them. So all that glitters is
not gold. Detroit is absolutely monster mashing with this wind streak.
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It's amazing. I've never seen anything like this, None of
us have, because it's never happened before in any of
our lives. That the Detroit Lions have been this good.
It's a two horse race in the NFC. You've got
the Lions on one side and the Eagles are, for
lack of a better term, bird dogging the Lions. But
what gives you pause? Let me ask the question, what
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gives you pause with the Lions who look amazing? But
what gives you pause heading down the stretch of the
NFL season. So I've got software and riverboat. That's what
I jotted down, Software and riverboat. So Jared Golf, Oh,
I got a belt. Jared Goff has been mister smooth
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in Motown. I understand he has a lot of local commercials.
He's a darling there, you know, the local attorney's office
or whatever. They have Jared Goff on there despite his success.
Having watched Jared Goff poop his pants many a time
over the years in big games, back in his days
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with the Rams, I would advise anyone who is fully
investing in Jared Goff to tread lightly. Now, my guy
Spaccoli knew exactly where I was going with is. But
Jared Goff has faulty software. There is a trojan horse
glitch in that software, and he's going to break your
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heart at some point. I and he's like, well, he
doesn't throw I heard Almeiica doesn't throw a lot of interceptions,
but boy, when he does, they're humdingers. They are humdingers,
all right. Now. The other part of this is the
riverboat gambler. Now, the other part of this is the
riverboat camble. So Dan Campbell is a hybrid. It's fascinating.
They should study Dan Campbell because he's mostly a meathead.
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He's a typical meat head coach here. I want to
eat your knee caps, that kind of guy. But in
terms of modern football, he is fully, fully invested in
the dogma of analytics. He's all about that analytics. I
just imagine in his headphones. There's some nerd in the
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press box. All right, Dan, go for it, all right,
whatever you say, Oh yeah, it's like a like a caveman,
Dan Camball. Campbell went for it on fourth down five
times in the game three. If you saw it, you
know what we're talking about, including with one yard to
go at the Detroit twenty one yard line with forty
three seconds left, which tells you he has no confidence
in his own defense. Right, if you're afraid that you
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give Jordan Love forty three seconds to go, your defense
can't keep them out of field goal range. That is
a vote of no confidence for the Lion's defense. But
it is also a rubber stamp for the analytics. That's
an analytical move. All these old coaches are rolling over
in their graves, right, what are you doing? But they
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did it, and it worked out, and it almost backfired
because Jared Goff got tripped by one of his offensive linemen.
He got stepped on. They still converted the line to
gain marker, but it backfired at one point they turned
the ball over on downs. The one time it didn't
work for the Lions, they turned the ball over on
downs late third quarter at their own thirty yard line,
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handing the Packers a touchdown. And that's the kind of
thing when you do that in the playoffs, that's the
kind of thing that haunts you. Right, that's the kind
of thing that gets you fired. And even if you're
just doing with the analytics people and all that stuff
doesn't matter. But we know how this book ends, right,
we know how this book normally ends. It's a it's
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out of the Bible. Live by the sword, Die by
the sword, Live by the analytics, Die by the analytics.
It's right there. It is not making that up. It's
amazing they do about analytics in the Bible. Anyway, It
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in the West for others. But we're heading into what
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will make his announcement this weekend, likely even today, on
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hundred and seven hundred million dollars while you just try
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We'll get to that, we'll take your calls, the whole thing,
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This is Ben mans and also Bill Miller. It is
I Bill Miller Dog pretty holiday joy. I've been told
to advise ug My to interact with the show. Otherwise,
what's the point of doing in the live radio show.
He did some crappy podcast for to noon be sleeping
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right now, but we're doing it live. The advantage of
live radio. Can actually interact with the show and send
us messages, tell us how great we are at Ben Mallard,
would really send Ben a message to Cooper Loop I
believe this series well at a Bronco fan and Lorraine
Ah the FSR Tech Queen, and your messages may be
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used against you on the air, like King Rory. Let's
get to let's get to Ben Thos's right. That's right, Bill,
I wasn't going to start with King Rory. So he says,
as a Packer fan, I am not going to blame
the refs for the loss, even though they decided not
to call penalties on the Lions that look very familiar
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to those that were called on the Packers. I'm not
that petty. Yeah, Packers lost because they're Swiss Cheese. On
defense Late Night drug Test, he says, when you gamble
on fourth down and when it's no problem, when you
gamble and lose, you get replaced by Harball. That's about right.
That's about right now. Stevie Meatballs says, hello, brother Ben,
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I must ask at the top of the last night show,
when you did you your Intel tirerack dot com plug
there and said they have over ten thousand installars. You said,
you said Stevie Meatballs likes that number. What in the
world of sports was that about? Now? Just take your med,
Stevie Meatballs and chilled out, buddy. It's okay. Just everything's
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gonna be fine. And maybe you imagine that. I don't
know if it actually happened, Freddie writes in he says
a plus plus on the top of the hour opening
Mallur monologue on the Thursday night game. I was hoping, hoping,
Freddy says, to start my vacation in Mexico happy. But
but Jordan Love broke my heart. Should have played, should
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have played better. Well, if he played a full game,
you know, if some thoughts were candy and nuts. But
he did not steve the misplaced San Diego rights and
says five star Malon monoys not now steve the misplaced
San Diegan Is that five out of five or is
that like five out of ten? It says five stars,
But is that all the stars that are available? I
don't know, but it says five stars. Anyway. Basically, he says, Malard,
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you're you're waiting for golf to go George Plimpton, and
here I thought that curse lived in San Diego. Well,
if it did live in San Diego, it's pretty much
dead in San Diego because all that's left is the Podres.
That's it. And the way the Dodgers are going, the
Podreys are are never gonna sniff the National League Pennant.
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Forget about it in the next ten years anyway. So yeah,
I mean, well they might sniff it if they go
back to some old old days. Tammy in Vegas rights
In says there were a lot of missed penalty calls
from the referees, but I really wanted the Packers go
for the touchdowns to the field goal on the last possession. Well,
as you know, Tammy, I'm like Switzerland. I'm neutral. You know,
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I'm just an order in the night here. Although I
did have for the TV show, we picked the Thursday game,
even though it does not make the TV show because
it airs on Thursday night, Friday and Saturday and the
Sunday Morning Action, so we don't include the Thursday game,
but we do pick it for end of year purposes,
and I did take the Packers plus the points and
I did end up winning that, so I'm happy even
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though they lost the game, for my purposes, it worked
out well. Now, this guy, he doesn't have a name.
It just says NLCS runner up Brewers. It's hard to
give the guy love with a name like that. But
he's obviously in Wisconsin and his allegiance are to the Packers,
and he's very upset. He says, the referees won the
game for the Lions. He's now recommending robot refs are needed.
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Robot refs. We're not that far away. Elon Musk is
working on that right now. When he gets done firing
everyone in the federal government and getting rid of all
the fat in the federal government, his next plan will
be to get rid of the officials. There'll be an
AI program. Uh, and you know Google might do I
think I think a muscle will do it. AI program
and then real time penalty calls, real time penalty calls.
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That'll that'll be coming. And he also says, in addition,
the guy without a name and I can't give any
credit because he has no name. He says, the reps
had five key moments, terrible calls against the Packers. Now
there was one I I jotted. So I'm watching the game.
I have on my I don't I say I write
it down because it sounds better. But I have on
my phone. I have this notes thing. You know, I
(23:35):
had an app on your phone like it's yellow. It's
a yellow yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's my notepad. So
what I do. But what I do is I write
little notes like during the game. So I try to
remember because you know, as Lorena likes to point out,
I'm very old, so I need to remember these things.
And uh, anyway, so I jotted down there was. It
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was in the first quarter, and it appeared Jordan Love
was hit by Zadarius Smith of the Lions. There was
an incomplete pass after he threw the pass, and it looked,
based on the way the modern NFL is called, there
was a hit to the helmet there that that should
have been could have been would have been a fifteen
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yard penalty, a personal foul penalty and a first down.
There was no booth review, there was no review. Green
Bay instead had a fourth down and five and they
ended up punting. And so they did really bup kiss
the Packers in the first half. But right there in
the first quarter of the game, there was an opportunity
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if the referees had made the call. It wasn't like
they would have given the Packers something they didn't earn.
The Lions committed by the modern rule of penalty. Now,
I think a lot of these penalties are for gazy.
I think they're ridiculous, but that's the way the game
is officiated, and that's the way they play the game
in the modern world. Random Ryan in from Carolina, a
(25:01):
loyal minion of the Overnight Show these days. He says,
day twenty whatever of Lebron King James social media watch.
We thought he was something, we had something on our end.
Turned out turned out just to be Kevin James commenting
on smoked Meats. Again. If there's any updates on our end,
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make sure Bill keeps the facts. Line opens from Random Ryan.
We're dying to No, I can't really live my life
without knowing how Lebron James thinks about random things. It's
very important to me. Really, I'm serious. No, I don't
have any original thoughts. I need to know. I lived
my life through Lebron. Yes, every misshot by Lebron. We'd
like to alert all the affiliates down the line, all
(25:45):
the affiliates down line. Gunner has announced he's at the
Walmart in northern Minnesota wait past the loof, like an
hour or two hours past the loot, and he says
that he will call the show next hour. And he's
letting us know no Timberwolf talk tonight. So no, we
don't well not, I know Ferg Dog's disappointed by that.
Try to stay calm Ferg dog Yeah, I know, I know, yeah, yes,
(26:10):
stay calm uh Ferg actually writes and says, is Bill
Miller now screening all the tweets to the show if
he thinks that'll save him from the next round of layoffs?
He's dreaming. Uh yeah, yeah, Bill Miller's name is on
the short list to get pole axed. I'm sure he'll uh,
he'll be let go before you know it. Uh, Stevie
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Meatballs against this is this Bill Miller guy has to go.
He sounds like the kind of guy that enjoys going
to church with in uh itchy buttocks and sitting at
the pew here. That's very graphic of you, Stevie Meatballs
to say that bad job by you. Anyway, it is
the Ben Maler shows. Go to phones and we'll say
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hello to legally blind Christopher. Hello, legally blind Christopher.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Mister mallor this is exciting news that if I get
my Walmart call next hour, I won't have the word
about a melotman as long as following Jane calls in.
I am set to the night because I haven't got
an ounce of sleep. I'm like you, I've been up
all day and all night. Oh be able to watch that?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Isn't that a great way to live your life. Let
me tell you something I got. The company had a
holiday party, and they actually wanted me to go to
the holliday party. It was when I was sleeping, uh,
and I I know I would have gone if it
had been at a time I could. I guess they
you know, they thought maybe I would just not sleep
at all. I took like a nap. I took a
two hour nap and it was right during the holiday
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party that the company had. And so if they were
have it like at night or something on the weekends,
I will absolutely go. But it's very difficult during the
week to make the holiday party. But anyway, legally blind Christopher,
So you're working on no sleep here, you're doing a
lot of heroin or fentanyl or whatever. You stay up
and you watch the game. You're, of course you're in Carolina,
but your heart is in Michigan, and you love all
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Michigan sports teams and so some of.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Them, some of them might have to be very cautious
on the ones I select. But mister Maller, my concern
is this is something that you brought up three weeks ago.
I'm now having to agree with you, but I can't
believe I'm doing this. The point the concerns me is
not the offense. We have seven key starters on defense
that they were truly exposed tonight because you put the
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Lions defense in a no hugble situation. They were constantly
exposed the entire night. The only saving grace that allowed
them to win this game wasn't the rest, it was
the clock because if Green Bay had the opportunity to
get that ball back when at that last drive, this
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game would have been over instead of go.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, well, hey listen, I mean, and that's smart by
Dan Campbell. I assume that you know the coaches that
was the plan. They know their defense has issues. Here.
They held the ball for thirty six minutes and some
of those some of those drives they had, you know,
ten twelve play, thirteen play drive. I had a bunch
I think they had. I think it was five drives
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ten plays or more, and the Packers only had one.
So that's hey, good, if you can do it, you
can get away with it. They got away with it,
so good for them. And that's two weeks in a row.
Now legally blind, Christopher. Remember the last game against the
Bears second half, right, Chicago, that Thanksgiving game which we
all remember the outcome because of what happened late in
the game. But the second half, the Chicago Bears played
(29:26):
great in the second after the Lions defense didn't up
anybody in that game in the second half. All right,
I've blown him away with my hot take. You turned
him down. Oh I see, I thought I blew him
away with my take. I put him in take jail
that he was overwhelmed by my take. All right, are
you back on, Christopher? Go ahead? Well, any final thoughts,
(29:46):
I must move on, bab final thoughts.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
One quick final thought before I leave for Hilton. Had
for my vacation.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Oh, you're going on vacation. Now, you still have to
have somebody replace you when you go on vacation. The
rule is, if you're on the payroll and you go
on vacation, you have to have somebody called in for
you when you're on vacation.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
We don't do the Microsoft and Google. I just go
whatever the heck I want. That's so problem.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
But the point we're not We're not Microsoft in Google.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
I promise you, well, this is true, But I want
to make this one last points as I oh man, okay,
is that the issue is that this will not survive
in the playoffs. One good defense will stop the Lions
offense and we're done. Mister Meller, thank you for everything.
I know you'll enjoy your extended vacation. So I can't
(30:31):
wait to listen to all the people complain about who's
your place to you? So you guys don't have a
great holiday, Happy new Year.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And I'll say there, all right, look at that. You
see the rest of the year off, guys. A baller,
legally blind crissler. Man, he's got that much cash here
it is the first week in December. He's like, I'm out.
I will see you losers in twenty twenty five. You
schmucks that have to work. Shame on you. I'm loading.
I'm not going to work. I'm going to go out
(30:56):
and live my life, live large, and live in charge
is what I'm going to do. So I want to
spend a couple of minutes on this one Sodo story.
Have you been paying attention? I have been paying attention.
I'm a little tired of it. I have one Soto fatigue.
One Soto fatigue at this particular point, just tired of it.
The other day there was a story Toronto had offered
(31:17):
the most money. Then there was a story that Juan
Soto was at some steakhouse in Manhattan with Steve Cohen,
the Mets owner. Now the latest is that the Red Sox,
at the very last minute, the very last minute, are
trying to get a final meeting with Scott Morris and
Juan Soto, and they will be given a price to
(31:40):
get the deal done. You know how It's like they
do that on the internet, right, is it eBay that
does that buy now price? Is that what they call it?
The buy now price? Yeah? So like instead of bidding
on it, you just buy it now. Yeah. Yeah, So
the Red Sox want to buy now price for Juan Soto.
And it's not from when I heard it. I don't
know if the meeting is actual gonna happen, or will
(32:00):
be granted or whatever. Today's supposed to be the decision day.
And how much of that money is going to be deferred,
it's all about. It will not be as much as
shohe Otani, right, he deferred ninety seven percent of his
contract ninety seven percent. And I saw a quote the
other day, I think it was Nightingale had this from Otani,
(32:23):
who was asked why he would defer ninety seven percent
of his Dodger salary, and he said, it's, you know,
we all made a promise to each other that we
would go out and create the best team to put
it out in the field. And that sounds great and
it's wonderful, very noble of Otani. Although the part that
(32:44):
he didn't include was how I can get away from
having to pay taxes, which is he's you know, he
figures he's in good health. You know, everyone young thinks
they're gonna live forever, so he figures, hey, I'm relatively young.
I'll live my full life and I'll just laugh all
the way to the bank, and I will avoid Uncle
Sam and having to pay taxes and all that. And
it's brilliant if you can get if you can pull
it off, it's absolutely brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Yeah. Yeah, Now,
(33:12):
I don't. I don't do deferred money. I don't. I don't,
there's no different I don't. I don't think I make
enough to get deferred money. So as far as how
much back to sod them, Yeah, the contract for Juan Soto.
There's some outrageous story that's seven hundred and fifty eight
hundred Millionana. I'm gonna guess because he you can't sell
Juan Soto internationally. There there's no there's no correlation causation
(33:38):
if you want to use that phrase to Otani. The
cause of Otani getting the money that he got was
the Dodgers will make that money back in Japan and
they you know, they're like for example, I mean, people
like me have been basically outlawed from from covering the
Dodgers because Japanese media is covering the Dodgers because they
know they can sell merchandise there and get their money
back that way, and so that's what they're doing. I
(34:00):
don't blame them for that seven hundred million dollars. Get
your money while you can. But there's no there's no
equivalent of that with Juan Soda. It just doesn't exist.
You can make that money back eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox. If you would like to be part,
there is a line open at eight seven seven nine
(34:21):
nine six sixty three six nine also on the X
machine at Ben Malor that is at Ben Mahlor if
you want to be part of the program. Time now
for the who am I? Game? And we will go
into the forever files of the who am I Game?
And here we go, Here we go. You can answer
(34:41):
this on X at ban malor that's at Ben mallor
who tell you something? We got Some very smart people
love to answer these questions. They always get them right,
unless they don't. Here's the wh MI game. That's where
I pretend to be somebody else in a blatant attempt
to get you to listen longer. So I am the
only quarter back in NFL history to lose six consecutive
(35:03):
games in which I didn't throw an interception in the
same season. Right, I'm the only quarterback in NFL history
to lose six and save games in the same season
in which I did not throw in interception. Who am I?
That is the question? I'm who? You gotta find out
who and the answer will get to it and we
(35:23):
will do it next.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
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Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
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Blah blah blah blah blah. Meggot, stop, my ears are bleeding.
It's y Bill Miller telling you there are nice people
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now back to a man who never takes a day off.
That's right, Bill, say my name? All right, Ben Malor,
that's my name. We're hanging out with you. Time to
pay off? Be always popular? Who am I Game? That's
(36:38):
why I pretend to be somebody else. Use we call
it who have My Game? So I'm the only quarterback
in NFL history to lose six consecutive games in which
in the same season in which I didn't throw an interception,
the only one. What are the odds who figure you
play a clean game? There very little chance you're gonna
lose six in a row if you play a clean game.
(36:59):
Robin minn is Soda going with that old Patriot quarterback
Jason Veritek is his answer. O g Art Puffin says
Art the Clown is the way to go, mister nice
guy playing with baseball cards while he works at the
grocery store there in the Bay Area. He's going with
Gyre Jurgens as his answer. Late Night Drug Tester says
(37:21):
Giannis Adenta Kumbo, who is thirty today? Here you go,
Giannis at age thirty. Congratulations Nick going with Winnie the
Pooh as his answer. Who else do we have? Rod,
the ambassador of Vegasfield with a name that I'm not
even going to try to pronounce, Mister Luciano, says Tristan Tait,
(37:44):
Who is the answer? Who else do we have? Page
Down Cowboy Killer? The greatest mascot in baseball, the Philly Fanatic.
There is no mascot that can go I to eye,
belly to belly with the Philly Fanatic. I Billievel not
a bad mascot, Wally the Green Monster, solid mascot, but
(38:04):
no one can quite match the magical powers of the
Philly Fanatic. And I remember years ago the late great
Tommy Lasorda were galing me in stories about how he
got into it with the fanatic when I was a kid,
and he told stories about what that was like on
a very steamy summer day in the Delaware Valley and
Tommy's from Pennsylvania, and the fanatic was getting under his
(38:26):
skin and his family was at the game, and Tommy
took action and he attacked the fanatic, and the fanatic
had an effigy of Lesorta, a doll a stuffed to
lesorta dog. Was the way Tommy told it was great. Anyway,
I'm dating myself, but Miguel on fire, says Boomer Asiasin
is the answer, Eke in Roseville, Minnesota, going with Seneca
(38:48):
Wallace Robbie the Mariner fan, says former LA talk show
host Carl Malone. The male Man, Carl Malone, Yeah, I
got replaced. You know, I lost a radio job early
in my career doing local radio. Yes, believe it or not,
to Carl Malone of the Utah Jazz and he was
during the NBA workstoppage years ago. Carl Malone decided, Yeah,
(39:11):
I'll do a sports radio show replace me, and did
it about as well, as you'd expect Carl Malone to do.
Hosting a radio show was just terrible. Alf the Alien
opineer going with Adele is his answer. Shane and de
Moyes says Mookie Betts. The King Rory says the Hawk
Tua coin. I saw that. So the Hawk Tour girl
(39:33):
is apparently a con artist that I read that ride
did as I understand it. I read it on the internet.
It must be true. She did a pump and dump
on some kind of crypto coin. Is she going to jail? Wow?
That'd be what what a great story if she made
a bunch of money. But I guess she's in if
I read right. Maybe I read it wrong, but there's
no way she goes to jail. I don't think pumping
and dumping is illegal. Uh the way I read it,
(39:57):
there were some some violations of the law. Anyway, who
cares good for her? I can't imagine actual people are
listening to that, but hey whatever, A big Lou's going
with the L train Lionel Simmons, that's a good one.
The L Train solid name from basketball pass. All right, Lorena,
do you have an answer? I'm the only quarterback in
NFL history to lose six consecutive games in the same
(40:17):
season in which I didn't throw an interception only one. Okay,
I got a guess. Okay, here we go. This is
gonna be good. I cannot JP lossman, JP Loss Sure
about that?
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Yeah, I think it's a good guess.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
All right, sounds like somebody gave you that name. It
sounds like somebody name Buffalo Doodle. The correct answer. Congratulations
if you said this is for Yaphimi in Chicago and
all the boys Eugene in Chicago. Caleb Williams, come on down,
Caleb Williams. He has gone six consecutive starts without an
(40:54):
interception side for the longest streak by rookie quarterback since
nineteen fifty. The Bears, though, the first team in the
Super Bowl era to lose six consecutive games without throwing
an interception, and all those games started by Caleb Williams.
And that is why there will be a new coach
of the Bears this weekend when they play the Niners.
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in the podcast format here. In hour number one, though,
it's all about that NFC North skirmish of Packers visiting
the Lions. Good game came down to the bitter end.
Who gets the blame though? The cheese kurts who gets
the blame for them? Matt Lafleur's Packers losing on a
(01:28):
late field goal? How did you score? The pregame verbal
battle that happened between the Packers coach and a random
Detroit Lion fan. They got into a war of words
and what gives you pause? With the Lions, who are
the top team in the NFC? Is there anything there
that makes you say, hey, wait a minute. As they
head down the home stretch, we'll get to all of
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I appreciate that number one with a bullet all right.
So leading off this playing the hit small Man Play
the Hits is one of our big bosses likes to say,
so I lead this hour from Motown. The curtain went
up on Week fourteen. Week fourteen of the NFL season.
My god, it's a wild out fact. Well usually that
follows Week thirteen. So we had an NFC North slobber
(03:23):
knocker Jordan Love and the Packers trying to get revenge
as they paid a visit to the great State of
Michigan in a dated Ford Field Litill playdate with Jared
Goff and the Lions. You had al Michael's there. You
knew it's a big game. You knew it was a
big game. Al Michaels Herbie and his new dog, and
they had the call there on the Amazon Solid mashup.
(03:45):
This is not a game that sucked it. It was
a game that we thought would be pretty good. It
was And if you saw it or not, maybe you
were looking outside the window and doing nothing. You know
that the Packers trying to take the Lion by the
tail and had that work out well. Jared Goff through
not one, not two, but three touchdown passes, and somebody
(04:06):
named Jake Bates who sounds like a serial killer, had
a thirty five yard field goal as time expired. The
Lions are in the play That Troit Lions are in
the play Did anyone think they weren't gonna make the
playoffs this year? The Lions are in the plus thirty
four to thirty one year Final as they take down
the Pack on a Thursday night game. The Lions in
(04:28):
the playoffs. The NFC's top team at twelve and one,
and Holy Barry Sanders, Batman, where have you gone? Wayne
Fonce the Lions have broken the franchise record Bobby Lane,
the Curse of Bobby Lane. No more eleven straight wins
for the Lions, and that includes a couple over the
Green Bay Packers and Detroit staying ahead of Minnesota in
(04:53):
the NFC North. So you got three teams likely in
the playoffs and that division. Lions are in Packers at
nine and four and Minnesota at ten and two. But
the better story is in the losing locker room. So
that is where we will begin our in depth team
coverage as we break this down. So the question for
the class who gets the blame? Cheese curds for matt
(05:15):
LeFleur and Packers. So I've got medical scrubs, Code Gray
and Riverboat and we will combine all of these things together,
all of these things, and we hope to be as
brave as a lion. That's what we hope to be,
(05:36):
all right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So a.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Let's start with the Green Bay marching in Chadow society
has reached out to me and we do very well
in northern Wisconsin. I think it's because my brother lives there.
So the Green Bay fans, they've all told me, it's
not that the Packers lost the game, it's the officials
gave the game to the Lions. There were some shady
calls in this game, but that is a smokes and
(06:01):
don't overlook the thing right in front of your eyes.
The Green Bay Packers defense, for better or worse, was worse.
They sucked at a time you cannot suck. And Jared
Goff was out there and I swear he was wearing
medical scrubs in a large chunk of the fourth quarter there,
the Lions offense was surgical as they sliced up the
(06:24):
Packer defense, and it was like a child playing with
playto It wasn't anything exotic. It wasn't like they had
reinvented the playbook. Detroit the better team here. They had
a lot of success running very basic NFL plays, the
dig root or route. If you will right over the middle,
(06:45):
right over the middle, you're supposed to defend the middle,
and they didn't do that. And also a lot of
timing play little screen passes, good blocking, bad tackling, good blocking.
Jared Goff completed thirty two passes. My math I jotted
this down. I think it was the final thirteen passes
that he completed and just terrible tackling technique. Detroit ends
(07:09):
up with twenty seven first downs. They had up almost
four hundred yards office three hundred ninety one. But it's
how they were able to methodically hold the Packers offense
off the field converted. It's forty seven percent on third down,
but four or five eighty percent on fourth down and
eighty percent in the red zone. So the Detroit Lions
(07:33):
getting or done, although they did not get it done
against the points spread, the pack could not get the
Lions offense off the field. Detroit ran seventy six place
the Cheeseheads ran forty five places. That's a plus thirty
one advantage if my malor math is correct, and so
it's rather shocking that it came down to a field goal.
(07:54):
If you run thirty one more place then the other team,
generally speaking, you're winning by a lot. You don't need
to wind the clock down and get a late field
goal to win the game. And let's also not overlook
the fact that while Jordan Love in the second half
was good in the beginning of the game, he was
(08:15):
garbage at the start. Oh you're not supposed to say
that he's the new savior of the Packers. He was
bad in the first half and the Packers were playing uphill. Now, fortunately,
thanks to some generosity by the Lions, the Packers were
able to get right back and get the lead within
four minutes in the second half. But the first half
was a struggle and then they were playing uphill after that.
(08:38):
Now turning the page, let me get to the lines
in a minute. We have some great audio here that
I want to play. So the Packers coach Matt LeFleur,
Matt Lafleur, there was an incident before the game. Okay
he saw this or not before. So there was a
heated exchange that happened that there was a temperature that
had risen up in the room. There was an exchange
(09:01):
with the Lion fan. This is pregame, so the game
hadn't even kicked off yet, and from what I have
been able to uncover, so this guy was this Lions
fan was invited onto the field for the pregame festivity.
I think he was there to hold the flag if
I read properly and well, rather than me. Matt Lafer
(09:22):
started yelling at the guy. The guy was yelling at him.
They went back and forth. But here's Matt Lafleur breaking
down the packer coach on how that went down. Take
a listen.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
He was talking junk to our players, giving him the
throat slash sign, and you know, you're trying to de
escalate it, and then he gets in my face. So
I thought it was pretty unsportsman like, like I've never
seen that. I've been on many fields and usually they
police that much better. I just I thought it was
(09:51):
an arrogant fan that you know, wanted to get in
part of the action, and just I would like to
see security or something step in there and get him
out of there, because it's it's he shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Doing that, Oh I should be doing now. At the
beginning of that, I think it's a pretty funny drop.
Can we just play the guy when he said he
was talking junk to our players. I think that's a
funny drop on the show. Let's hear that again that
beginning part. Let's say we can hear that.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
He was talking junk to our players.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Oh yeah, right, there isn't that a funny drop out
of context drop? Wouldn't that be a fun drop on
the show, like out of context. I think that would
be great. And he doesn't say anyone by name. You
don't even know who that is, Matt Lafleur. I think
that's good. All right, So let's get to the scorecard.
Here the judges' scorecards. How did you score the pregame
verbal battle royale between the Packers coach Matt Lafleur and
(10:47):
Joe Blow Lions fan. How did you score it? So
I go to my scorecard. I scored it a ten
to nine, ten nine advantage in favor of the fan.
I love the fact that Matt Lafleur is talking about unsportsmanlike, hey, hey, coach,
he's a fan. He's not an athlete. Uh, it's not
(11:10):
high school, it's not little league. He's just a drunk
guy or somebody that's on the spectrum who's out there
now in the hospital. They would call this a code gray,
a combative person, a random schmendering. This guy gets invited
onto the field. Not everyone gets to go out in
the field before an NFL game. This guy gets invited
on the field. He ends up thinking he's part of
(11:33):
the show, right, I'm part of the show. And then
he's like doing double duty. Not only is he there
as a fan, but he's a enemy combatant. He's got
he's the flag guy, he's the instigator guy. He works
himself into a lather, talking trash. And while the guy
is certainly a douche canoe, who does that, right? I
(11:54):
mean really, who does? I mean a douche. That's a
that's a douche move. But that's a real all right,
that's a fanatic. Fan is short for fanatic. The guys
that die hard. He had convinced himself he was actually
on the Lions. He had convinced himself that it's like
the fourth wall had been broken, and he was in
(12:16):
the show. He was on the stage, and he's a
Foxhole guy. He's a Foxhole guy. And I thought that
was that was just great. All right? Last word, let's
circle back to the Lions, the team that is the
top team on the NFC side of the bracket, and
was zero in on them. So all that glitters is
not gold. Detroit is absolutely monster mashing with this wind streak.
(12:40):
It's amazing. I've never seen anything like this, None of
us have, because it's never happened before in any of
our lives. That the Detroit Lions have been this good.
It's a two horse race in the NFC. You've got
the Lions on one side and the Eagles are, for
lack of a better term, bird dogging the Lions. But
what gives you pause? Let me ask the question, what
(13:01):
gives you pause with the Lions who look amazing? But
what gives you pause heading down the stretch of the
NFL season. So I've got software and riverboat. That's what
I jotted down, Software and riverboat. So Jared Golf, Oh,
I got a belt. Jared Goff has been mister smooth
(13:21):
in Motown. I understand he has a lot of local commercials.
He's a darling there, you know, the local attorney's office
or whatever. They have Jared Goff on there despite his success.
Having watched Jared Goff poop his pants many a time
over the years in big games, back in his days
(13:43):
with the Rams, I would advise anyone who is fully
investing in Jared Goff to tread lightly. Now, my guy
Spaccoli knew exactly where I was going with is. But
Jared Goff has faulty software. There is a trojan horse
glitch in that software, and he's going to break your
(14:06):
heart at some point. I and he's like, well, he
doesn't throw I heard Almeiica doesn't throw a lot of interceptions,
but boy, when he does, they're humdingers. They are humdingers,
all right. Now. The other part of this is the
riverboat gambler. Now, the other part of this is the
riverboat camble. So Dan Campbell is a hybrid. It's fascinating.
They should study Dan Campbell because he's mostly a meathead.
(14:30):
He's a typical meat head coach here. I want to
eat your knee caps, that kind of guy. But in
terms of modern football, he is fully, fully invested in
the dogma of analytics. He's all about that analytics. I
just imagine in his headphones. There's some nerd in the
(14:51):
press box. All right, Dan, go for it, all right,
whatever you say, Oh yeah, it's like a like a caveman,
Dan Camball. Campbell went for it on fourth down five
times in the game three. If you saw it, you
know what we're talking about, including with one yard to
go at the Detroit twenty one yard line with forty
three seconds left, which tells you he has no confidence
in his own defense. Right, if you're afraid that you
(15:13):
give Jordan Love forty three seconds to go, your defense
can't keep them out of field goal range. That is
a vote of no confidence for the Lion's defense. But
it is also a rubber stamp for the analytics. That's
an analytical move. All these old coaches are rolling over
in their graves, right, what are you doing? But they
(15:35):
did it, and it worked out, and it almost backfired
because Jared Goff got tripped by one of his offensive linemen.
He got stepped on. They still converted the line to
gain marker, but it backfired at one point they turned
the ball over on downs. The one time it didn't
work for the Lions, they turned the ball over on
downs late third quarter at their own thirty yard line,
(15:56):
handing the Packers a touchdown. And that's the kind of
thing when you do that in the playoffs, that's the
kind of thing that haunts you. Right, that's the kind
of thing that gets you fired. And even if you're
just doing with the analytics people and all that stuff
doesn't matter. But we know how this book ends, right,
we know how this book normally ends. It's a it's
(16:17):
out of the Bible. Live by the sword, Die by
the sword, Live by the analytics, Die by the analytics.
It's right there. It is not making that up. It's
amazing they do about analytics in the Bible. Anyway, It
is the Ben Mahler Show. If you would like to
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(17:05):
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in the West for others. But we're heading into what
is supposed to be d day for one Soto, and
there is some news brewing here in the overnight hours
on what's going on with Juan Soto. Many anticipate he
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will make his announcement this weekend, likely even today, on
where he is going to end up. And I know
you're dying to know who's going to pay him. Six
hundred and seven hundred million dollars while you just try
to make ends meet. So we'll regale you with that information.
We'll get to that, we'll take your calls, the whole thing,
and we will do it next.
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This is Ben mans and also Bill Miller. It is
I Bill Miller Dog pretty holiday joy. I've been told
to advise ug My to interact with the show. Otherwise,
what's the point of doing in the live radio show.
He did some crappy podcast for to noon be sleeping
(19:08):
right now, but we're doing it live. The advantage of
live radio. Can actually interact with the show and send
us messages, tell us how great we are at Ben Mallard,
would really send Ben a message to Cooper Loop I
believe this series well at a Bronco fan and Lorraine
Ah the FSR Tech Queen, and your messages may be
(19:32):
used against you on the air, like King Rory. Let's
get to let's get to Ben Thos's right. That's right, Bill,
I wasn't going to start with King Rory. So he says,
as a Packer fan, I am not going to blame
the refs for the loss, even though they decided not
to call penalties on the Lions that look very familiar
(19:52):
to those that were called on the Packers. I'm not
that petty. Yeah, Packers lost because they're Swiss Cheese. On
defense Late Night drug Test, he says, when you gamble
on fourth down and when it's no problem, when you
gamble and lose, you get replaced by Harball. That's about right.
That's about right now. Stevie Meatballs says, hello, brother Ben,
(20:14):
I must ask at the top of the last night show,
when you did you your Intel tirerack dot com plug
there and said they have over ten thousand installars. You said,
you said Stevie Meatballs likes that number. What in the
world of sports was that about? Now? Just take your med,
Stevie Meatballs and chilled out, buddy. It's okay. Just everything's
(20:37):
gonna be fine. And maybe you imagine that. I don't
know if it actually happened, Freddie writes in he says
a plus plus on the top of the hour opening
Mallur monologue on the Thursday night game. I was hoping, hoping,
Freddy says, to start my vacation in Mexico happy. But
but Jordan Love broke my heart. Should have played, should
(20:59):
have played better. Well, if he played a full game,
you know, if some thoughts were candy and nuts. But
he did not steve the misplaced San Diego rights and
says five star Malon monoys not now steve the misplaced
San Diegan Is that five out of five or is
that like five out of ten? It says five stars,
But is that all the stars that are available? I
don't know, but it says five stars. Anyway. Basically, he says, Malard,
(21:23):
you're you're waiting for golf to go George Plimpton, and
here I thought that curse lived in San Diego. Well,
if it did live in San Diego, it's pretty much
dead in San Diego because all that's left is the Podres.
That's it. And the way the Dodgers are going, the
Podreys are are never gonna sniff the National League Pennant.
(21:44):
Forget about it in the next ten years anyway. So yeah,
I mean, well they might sniff it if they go
back to some old old days. Tammy in Vegas rights
In says there were a lot of missed penalty calls
from the referees, but I really wanted the Packers go
for the touchdowns to the field goal on the last possession. Well,
as you know, Tammy, I'm like Switzerland. I'm neutral. You know,
(22:07):
I'm just an order in the night here. Although I
did have for the TV show, we picked the Thursday game,
even though it does not make the TV show because
it airs on Thursday night, Friday and Saturday and the
Sunday Morning Action, so we don't include the Thursday game,
but we do pick it for end of year purposes,
and I did take the Packers plus the points and
I did end up winning that, so I'm happy even
(22:29):
though they lost the game, for my purposes, it worked
out well. Now, this guy, he doesn't have a name.
It just says NLCS runner up Brewers. It's hard to
give the guy love with a name like that. But
he's obviously in Wisconsin and his allegiance are to the Packers,
and he's very upset. He says, the referees won the
game for the Lions. He's now recommending robot refs are needed.
(22:52):
Robot refs. We're not that far away. Elon Musk is
working on that right now. When he gets done firing
everyone in the federal government and getting rid of all
the fat in the federal government, his next plan will
be to get rid of the officials. There'll be an
AI program. Uh, and you know Google might do I
think I think a muscle will do it. AI program
and then real time penalty calls, real time penalty calls.
(23:13):
That'll that'll be coming. And he also says, in addition,
the guy without a name and I can't give any
credit because he has no name. He says, the reps
had five key moments, terrible calls against the Packers. Now
there was one I I jotted. So I'm watching the game.
I have on my I don't I say I write
it down because it sounds better. But I have on
my phone. I have this notes thing. You know, I
(23:35):
had an app on your phone like it's yellow. It's
a yellow yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's my notepad. So
what I do. But what I do is I write
little notes like during the game. So I try to
remember because you know, as Lorena likes to point out,
I'm very old, so I need to remember these things.
And uh, anyway, so I jotted down there was. It
(23:56):
was in the first quarter, and it appeared Jordan Love
was hit by Zadarius Smith of the Lions. There was
an incomplete pass after he threw the pass, and it looked,
based on the way the modern NFL is called, there
was a hit to the helmet there that that should
have been could have been would have been a fifteen
(24:18):
yard penalty, a personal foul penalty and a first down.
There was no booth review, there was no review. Green
Bay instead had a fourth down and five and they
ended up punting. And so they did really bup kiss
the Packers in the first half. But right there in
the first quarter of the game, there was an opportunity
(24:40):
if the referees had made the call. It wasn't like
they would have given the Packers something they didn't earn.
The Lions committed by the modern rule of penalty. Now,
I think a lot of these penalties are for gazy.
I think they're ridiculous, but that's the way the game
is officiated, and that's the way they play the game
in the modern world. Random Ryan in from Carolina, a
(25:01):
loyal minion of the Overnight Show these days. He says,
day twenty whatever of Lebron King James social media watch.
We thought he was something, we had something on our end.
Turned out turned out just to be Kevin James commenting
on smoked Meats. Again. If there's any updates on our end,
(25:23):
make sure Bill keeps the facts. Line opens from Random Ryan.
We're dying to No, I can't really live my life
without knowing how Lebron James thinks about random things. It's
very important to me. Really, I'm serious. No, I don't
have any original thoughts. I need to know. I lived
my life through Lebron. Yes, every misshot by Lebron. We'd
like to alert all the affiliates down the line, all
(25:45):
the affiliates down line. Gunner has announced he's at the
Walmart in northern Minnesota wait past the loof, like an
hour or two hours past the loot, and he says
that he will call the show next hour. And he's
letting us know no Timberwolf talk tonight. So no, we
don't well not, I know Ferg Dog's disappointed by that.
Try to stay calm Ferg dog Yeah, I know, I know, yeah, yes,
(26:10):
stay calm uh Ferg actually writes and says, is Bill
Miller now screening all the tweets to the show if
he thinks that'll save him from the next round of layoffs?
He's dreaming. Uh yeah, yeah, Bill Miller's name is on
the short list to get pole axed. I'm sure he'll uh,
he'll be let go before you know it. Uh, Stevie
(26:31):
Meatballs against this is this Bill Miller guy has to go.
He sounds like the kind of guy that enjoys going
to church with in uh itchy buttocks and sitting at
the pew here. That's very graphic of you, Stevie Meatballs
to say that bad job by you. Anyway, it is
the Ben Maler shows. Go to phones and we'll say
(26:52):
hello to legally blind Christopher. Hello, legally blind Christopher.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Mister mallor this is exciting news that if I get
my Walmart call next hour, I won't have the word
about a melotman as long as following Jane calls in.
I am set to the night because I haven't got
an ounce of sleep. I'm like you, I've been up
all day and all night. Oh be able to watch that?
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Isn't that a great way to live your life. Let
me tell you something I got. The company had a
holiday party, and they actually wanted me to go to
the holliday party. It was when I was sleeping, uh,
and I I know I would have gone if it
had been at a time I could. I guess they
you know, they thought maybe I would just not sleep
at all. I took like a nap. I took a
two hour nap and it was right during the holiday
(27:37):
party that the company had. And so if they were
have it like at night or something on the weekends,
I will absolutely go. But it's very difficult during the
week to make the holiday party. But anyway, legally blind Christopher,
So you're working on no sleep here, you're doing a
lot of heroin or fentanyl or whatever. You stay up
and you watch the game. You're, of course you're in Carolina,
but your heart is in Michigan, and you love all
(27:57):
Michigan sports teams and so some of.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Them, some of them might have to be very cautious
on the ones I select. But mister Maller, my concern
is this is something that you brought up three weeks ago.
I'm now having to agree with you, but I can't
believe I'm doing this. The point the concerns me is
not the offense. We have seven key starters on defense
that they were truly exposed tonight because you put the
(28:21):
Lions defense in a no hugble situation. They were constantly
exposed the entire night. The only saving grace that allowed
them to win this game wasn't the rest, it was
the clock because if Green Bay had the opportunity to
get that ball back when at that last drive, this
(28:42):
game would have been over instead of go.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, well, hey listen, I mean, and that's smart by
Dan Campbell. I assume that you know the coaches that
was the plan. They know their defense has issues. Here.
They held the ball for thirty six minutes and some
of those some of those drives they had, you know,
ten twelve play, thirteen play drive. I had a bunch
I think they had. I think it was five drives
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ten plays or more, and the Packers only had one.
So that's hey, good, if you can do it, you
can get away with it. They got away with it,
so good for them. And that's two weeks in a row.
Now legally blind, Christopher. Remember the last game against the
Bears second half, right, Chicago, that Thanksgiving game which we
all remember the outcome because of what happened late in
the game. But the second half, the Chicago Bears played
(29:26):
great in the second after the Lions defense didn't up
anybody in that game in the second half. All right,
I've blown him away with my hot take. You turned
him down. Oh I see, I thought I blew him
away with my take. I put him in take jail
that he was overwhelmed by my take. All right, are
you back on, Christopher? Go ahead? Well, any final thoughts,
(29:46):
I must move on, bab final thoughts.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
One quick final thought before I leave for Hilton. Had
for my vacation.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Oh, you're going on vacation. Now, you still have to
have somebody replace you when you go on vacation. The
rule is, if you're on the payroll and you go
on vacation, you have to have somebody called in for
you when you're on vacation.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
We don't do the Microsoft and Google. I just go
whatever the heck I want. That's so problem.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
But the point we're not We're not Microsoft in Google.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
I promise you, well, this is true, But I want
to make this one last points as I oh man, okay,
is that the issue is that this will not survive
in the playoffs. One good defense will stop the Lions
offense and we're done. Mister Meller, thank you for everything.
I know you'll enjoy your extended vacation. So I can't
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wait to listen to all the people complain about who's
your place to you? So you guys don't have a
great holiday, Happy new Year.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And I'll say there, all right, look at that. You
see the rest of the year off, guys. A baller,
legally blind crissler. Man, he's got that much cash here
it is the first week in December. He's like, I'm out.
I will see you losers in twenty twenty five. You
schmucks that have to work. Shame on you. I'm loading.
I'm not going to work. I'm going to go out
(30:56):
and live my life, live large, and live in charge
is what I'm going to do. So I want to
spend a couple of minutes on this one Sodo story.
Have you been paying attention? I have been paying attention.
I'm a little tired of it. I have one Soto fatigue.
One Soto fatigue at this particular point, just tired of it.
The other day there was a story Toronto had offered
(31:17):
the most money. Then there was a story that Juan
Soto was at some steakhouse in Manhattan with Steve Cohen,
the Mets owner. Now the latest is that the Red Sox,
at the very last minute, the very last minute, are
trying to get a final meeting with Scott Morris and
Juan Soto, and they will be given a price to
(31:40):
get the deal done. You know how It's like they
do that on the internet, right, is it eBay that
does that buy now price? Is that what they call it?
The buy now price? Yeah? So like instead of bidding
on it, you just buy it now. Yeah. Yeah, So
the Red Sox want to buy now price for Juan Soto.
And it's not from when I heard it. I don't
know if the meeting is actual gonna happen, or will
(32:00):
be granted or whatever. Today's supposed to be the decision day.
And how much of that money is going to be deferred,
it's all about. It will not be as much as
shohe Otani, right, he deferred ninety seven percent of his
contract ninety seven percent. And I saw a quote the
other day, I think it was Nightingale had this from Otani,
(32:23):
who was asked why he would defer ninety seven percent
of his Dodger salary, and he said, it's, you know,
we all made a promise to each other that we
would go out and create the best team to put
it out in the field. And that sounds great and
it's wonderful, very noble of Otani. Although the part that
(32:44):
he didn't include was how I can get away from
having to pay taxes, which is he's you know, he
figures he's in good health. You know, everyone young thinks
they're gonna live forever, so he figures, hey, I'm relatively young.
I'll live my full life and I'll just laugh all
the way to the bank, and I will avoid Uncle
Sam and having to pay taxes and all that. And
it's brilliant if you can get if you can pull
it off, it's absolutely brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Yeah. Yeah, Now,
(33:12):
I don't. I don't do deferred money. I don't. I don't,
there's no different I don't. I don't think I make
enough to get deferred money. So as far as how
much back to sod them, Yeah, the contract for Juan Soto.
There's some outrageous story that's seven hundred and fifty eight
hundred Millionana. I'm gonna guess because he you can't sell
Juan Soto internationally. There there's no there's no correlation causation
(33:38):
if you want to use that phrase to Otani. The
cause of Otani getting the money that he got was
the Dodgers will make that money back in Japan and
they you know, they're like for example, I mean, people
like me have been basically outlawed from from covering the
Dodgers because Japanese media is covering the Dodgers because they
know they can sell merchandise there and get their money
back that way, and so that's what they're doing. I
(34:00):
don't blame them for that seven hundred million dollars. Get
your money while you can. But there's no there's no
equivalent of that with Juan Soda. It just doesn't exist.
You can make that money back eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox. If you would like to be part,
there is a line open at eight seven seven nine
(34:21):
nine six sixty three six nine also on the X
machine at Ben Malor that is at Ben Mahlor if
you want to be part of the program. Time now
for the who am I? Game? And we will go
into the forever files of the who am I Game?
And here we go, Here we go. You can answer
(34:41):
this on X at ban malor that's at Ben mallor
who tell you something? We got Some very smart people
love to answer these questions. They always get them right,
unless they don't. Here's the wh MI game. That's where
I pretend to be somebody else in a blatant attempt
to get you to listen longer. So I am the
only quarter back in NFL history to lose six consecutive
(35:03):
games in which I didn't throw an interception in the
same season. Right, I'm the only quarterback in NFL history
to lose six and save games in the same season
in which I did not throw in interception. Who am I?
That is the question? I'm who? You gotta find out
who and the answer will get to it and we
(35:23):
will do it next.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
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(36:14):
Facebook and follow on Instagram. Ben Mahlor on Fox, and
now back to a man who never takes a day off.
That's right, Bill, say my name? All right, Ben Malor,
that's my name. We're hanging out with you. Time to
pay off? Be always popular? Who am I Game? That's
(36:38):
why I pretend to be somebody else. Use we call
it who have My Game? So I'm the only quarterback
in NFL history to lose six consecutive games in which
in the same season in which I didn't throw an interception,
the only one. What are the odds who figure you
play a clean game? There very little chance you're gonna
lose six in a row if you play a clean game.
(36:59):
Robin minn is Soda going with that old Patriot quarterback
Jason Veritek is his answer. O g Art Puffin says
Art the Clown is the way to go, mister nice
guy playing with baseball cards while he works at the
grocery store there in the Bay Area. He's going with
Gyre Jurgens as his answer. Late Night Drug Tester says
(37:21):
Giannis Adenta Kumbo, who is thirty today? Here you go,
Giannis at age thirty. Congratulations Nick going with Winnie the
Pooh as his answer. Who else do we have? Rod,
the ambassador of Vegasfield with a name that I'm not
even going to try to pronounce, Mister Luciano, says Tristan Tait,
(37:44):
Who is the answer? Who else do we have? Page
Down Cowboy Killer? The greatest mascot in baseball, the Philly Fanatic.
There is no mascot that can go I to eye,
belly to belly with the Philly Fanatic. I Billievel not
a bad mascot, Wally the Green Monster, solid mascot, but
(38:04):
no one can quite match the magical powers of the
Philly Fanatic. And I remember years ago the late great
Tommy Lasorda were galing me in stories about how he
got into it with the fanatic when I was a kid,
and he told stories about what that was like on
a very steamy summer day in the Delaware Valley and
Tommy's from Pennsylvania, and the fanatic was getting under his
(38:26):
skin and his family was at the game, and Tommy
took action and he attacked the fanatic, and the fanatic
had an effigy of Lesorta, a doll a stuffed to
lesorta dog. Was the way Tommy told it was great. Anyway,
I'm dating myself, but Miguel on fire, says Boomer Asiasin
is the answer, Eke in Roseville, Minnesota, going with Seneca
(38:48):
Wallace Robbie the Mariner fan, says former LA talk show
host Carl Malone. The male Man, Carl Malone, Yeah, I
got replaced. You know, I lost a radio job early
in my career doing local radio. Yes, believe it or not,
to Carl Malone of the Utah Jazz and he was
during the NBA workstoppage years ago. Carl Malone decided, Yeah,
(39:11):
I'll do a sports radio show replace me, and did
it about as well, as you'd expect Carl Malone to do.
Hosting a radio show was just terrible. Alf the Alien
opineer going with Adele is his answer. Shane and de
Moyes says Mookie Betts. The King Rory says the Hawk
Tua coin. I saw that. So the Hawk Tour girl
(39:33):
is apparently a con artist that I read that ride
did as I understand it. I read it on the internet.
It must be true. She did a pump and dump
on some kind of crypto coin. Is she going to jail? Wow?
That'd be what what a great story if she made
a bunch of money. But I guess she's in if
I read right. Maybe I read it wrong, but there's
no way she goes to jail. I don't think pumping
and dumping is illegal. Uh the way I read it,
(39:57):
there were some some violations of the law. Anyway, who
cares good for her? I can't imagine actual people are
listening to that, but hey whatever, A big Lou's going
with the L train Lionel Simmons, that's a good one.
The L Train solid name from basketball pass. All right, Lorena,
do you have an answer? I'm the only quarterback in
NFL history to lose six consecutive games in the same
(40:17):
season in which I didn't throw an interception only one. Okay,
I got a guess. Okay, here we go. This is
gonna be good. I cannot JP lossman, JP Loss Sure
about that?
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Yeah, I think it's a good guess.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
All right, sounds like somebody gave you that name. It
sounds like somebody name Buffalo Doodle. The correct answer. Congratulations
if you said this is for Yaphimi in Chicago and
all the boys Eugene in Chicago. Caleb Williams, come on down,
Caleb Williams. He has gone six consecutive starts without an
(40:54):
interception side for the longest streak by rookie quarterback since
nineteen fifty. The Bears, though, the first team in the
Super Bowl era to lose six consecutive games without throwing
an interception, and all those games started by Caleb Williams.
And that is why there will be a new coach
of the Bears this weekend when they play the Niners.
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