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October 24, 2025 • 41 mins

Ben Maller talks about Trail Blazers coach Chauncey Billups and Heat guard Terry Rozier getting arrested by the FBI, how much jail time the two are facing, what the fallout will be from this latest wrinkle in the NBA gambling underworld, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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an hour number one, though, what was your initial reaction
don't bear the lead mo Man major gambling story. What
was your initial reaction to the Trailblazers coach Chauncey Billups
and heat guard Terry Rosier getting arrested by the FBI.
We will talk about that. Also, how much jail time
are Terry Rosier and Chauncey Billups facing in these federal charges,

(01:14):
and what's the fallout from the latest wrinkle in the
NBA gambling underworld. We'll talk about all that and more.
Buckle up. It's one of the great scandals of our
time and it's the first inning of this scandal. We'll
get to that right now here.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
It is our number one.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
From mister big Shot to mister big Cuffs.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
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Vikings didn't want to play, they could have just let
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It takes a lot of fuel to get from Minnesota
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And you know, it takes a heck of a lot

(03:27):
for us not to begin the overnight sore A with
an NFL Island game.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I mean, like a lot of stuff has to happen
for us not to go there. But I assume you've
heard and been partaking in the feeding frenzy that has
been taking place the last twenty hours or so, not
that long, I tell you that that would be the Feds.
The Feds have arrested an active NBA head coach and

(03:55):
an active NBA player.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
That seems like a big deal.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
That seems like a big don Now, you are obviously
innocent until proven guilty. Chauncey Billups, mister big shot, Piston's
legend who's been coaching toiling on the Oregon Trail with
the Portland Trailblazers, going back to their roots as the
Jail Blazers.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
And Terry Rozier.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Who at one point was a valuable member the Boston Celtics.
She's been bouncing around the NBA, currently with the Miami Heat,
although I'm I'm guessing he's never going to play for
them again. But anyway, so you had Rosier, you had Billups.
They were among thirty people who had a really bad day.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Thirty people had.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Really you think you had a bad Thursday, They had
a worse Thursday. And two separate, they claim related, but
separate federal gambling investigations that involved.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
The NBA and the Mob. The NBA and the Mob.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Hello, now again, this is the version of the FBI.
They don't bat a thousand, but they bat about nine hundred.
So cardingly, the FBI these schemes. Boy, this is good reading, man,
This is good reading, is what this is. So one
of them focused on insider sports betting, another that rigged

(05:16):
poker games coast, stuck coast and bordered the border, and
this went on for years, involving they claimed tens of
millions of dollars. Now, remember the problem the Feds have
with gambling illegally is they don't get a cut of
the money, right, they don't get the Yeah, they're not paying.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Taxes on that.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Of course, from what I read as I understand the story,
there's also some very wealthy people that got their pants
pulled down in this and they're not happy about it.
So those things together create the situation we have now
where there's tens of millions of dollars of illicit gains.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Wire fraud, that's what they couldn't remember that.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I remember in a book years ago about how they
took down the mob right wire fraud, that was the
thing right before that. They couldn't take down the mone
wire fraud, money laundering, extortion, all the big hits there,
and of course gambling.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
So that's a good jumping off point. It's a massive,
massive story.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
So let us discuss the question, what was your initial
reaction to Trailblazer's coach Chauncey Bilts and heat guard Terry
Roseier both being arrested by the NBA?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
All right, so that's the question.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
So I've got Einstein Brothers, Apollo Theater, and Farmers Market.
We're gonna mix all of these things together, and we're
gonna make a three team parlay. Is what we're gonna make,
all right. So a my first thought here is absolutely bowkers.
Where the capitol b bonkers?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Is what I'm thinking. That was my initial thought here.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
This story actually started bubbling up before I went to bed.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I got some crazy sleep schedule going on.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
So peple were blowing up my phone a little bit,
and by the time I woke up, there was an
FBI news conference in Brooklyn that it took took place
taking place, and so it was it was like all
hell brook Lows and uh oh my, uh wow uh
And I's like, no, this is this kid?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Is this really? Is that really what happened? Okay?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Okay, wow, I want to know more about it? Uh So,
uh what a way to tip off the NBA season.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
How about that Adam Silver that's you like? That is
as that taste? Yeah? Good? Okay?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Uh so yeah, you know what happens when you assume
we assume the storylines that we would be gapping about
here to begin the NBA season were wemby Joel mb
looking like he should have a wheelchair and load management.
But no, no, we're talking about the FBI kicking in
doors and taking away NBA guys in handcuffs after games.

(08:00):
After games, Wawi Becauzawi would apply here.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Now.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I mentioned my phone blew up and when I woke up,
and I had an idea that it was about this. Now,
normally this only happens when somebody gets fired, I get fired,
or someone dies. So the story I was looking into
the details here, and I assume you've heard some of it.
Maybe not, Maybe you actually have a life and you
don't obsessed with this kind of stuff. So I'm digging

(08:26):
into it. I'm getting really deep into it. I'm like,
this is great. I mean, I mean, I'm all about
this action. And this story is like going to Einstein
Brothers the bagel shop and ordering the everything bagel.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
It's got something for everyone.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
It's got a Hall of Famer, a man that hit
some massive baskets. If you're of the age to remember
the Pistons that that no name, no Hall of Fame
type team and the no all time great player the
Pistons team that ended up winning the championship. Of course,
he is a whole all of Fame level ballplayer, Chauncey Bellos.
But the team when they beat the Lakers, of course,

(09:04):
that was more with the Laker injuries and whatnot in
the NBA Finals.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
But you got that.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
You got Terry Rozier when he played for the Celtics,
he had the nickname Scary Terry. If you like mob movies,
he got the Italian Mafia. It spans eleven states. You
got rigged poker games over here in places like the Hamptons.
That's where all the aristocrats hang out, all the a
holes in the Hamptons, Miami Vegas, where we're broadcasting from Manhattan.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
This is like watching a Scorsese flick, is what this is.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
It's Goodfellas NBA edition, Goodfellas NBA Edition, and my favorite
mob movies, not The Godfather.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
It is Goodfellas.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I love Goodfellow great, just absolutely great and you could
not script it better. You got Rosier, you know, based
on what I read here, telling the mob that if
you believe the FBI story, and again it's a version
of the truth, not the whole truth, but Rosier telling
the mob, Hey, I'm gonna fake an injury so you
guys can hit the under on the on the prop bets.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Which you know, I don't know what I just do
an overnight show, do I know? But that doesn't seem
very subtle.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
It's like walking into the casino wearing a neon sign
that says I'm fixing the game I'm playing over here,
you know.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, this isn't some tiki tac violation. This is the
doomsday scenario for the for the NBA. And it's it's
funny because obviously I like gambling. I think adults should
be able to gamble. This is obviously part of the deal.
You're gonna have to deal with this kind of stuff
from time to time. But you know, it's just this

(10:42):
is what the commissioners for years, Oh, you cut out
have gambling, this is the worst thing in the world.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
And all stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
But then all of a sudden they saw the checks
that they got from gambling and oh, yeah, we're fine,
but this is the worst not the worst case. I
guess the worst case scenario would be we like the
Chicago black socks scandal from back back in the day.
But nonetheless, uh, you know, it's been been like they've
been pretending this can't happen and all that stuff, and

(11:08):
well it's it's happened.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
So now it's real.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
And this is gonna make one hell of a great
Netflix true crime doc and I'm in on it. I
will watch every episode. I will binge watch it, binge
watch it. I don't normally binge watch. I can't sit
there for that long. I have to go do stuff,
but I will binge watch. And this is still in
progress right now. And you know, who knows what to
believe if people are sending me messages this, you know,

(11:34):
naming certain people they think are are gonna come chopping
down next. And the theory is these guys were not alone.
This was not a one off situation where normally these
guys hang out with other friends who are from former
employees they worked with or whatever, and former co workers
are basketball players or current basketball players.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
So there's some people.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Right now who know these gentlemen and know they might
be on some kind of list or something like that
that are not sleeping.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
We'd like to welcome them to the mal or militia.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
And I don't know what they're gonna call the Netflix
true crime doc maybe whack Jobs and point guards or
something like that. But you can get the ominous piano
music playing and all that, and imagine a world where
the unders hit early and the FBI hits earlier.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, something like that. I think that she could work. Yeah,
I think that it would work.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
So we'll see what happens. But you guys, strap in there,
because this is this is not going away. This is
a nuke in Adam Silver's lap. And the chatter again,
the chatter who knows what's right not? You know, nobody
knows anything, and people are people love to gossip and
they love for some reason they have to tell me crap.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I don't know why. What do I know?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
They're claiming there's some other big fish, including a very
well known boxer who will be involved in this.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
We'll see if that happens or not.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
And I don't want to get sued, so I'm not
naming anyone at all. I know nothing. I see nothing.
I'm not naming anyone. You can figure it out on
your own. I don't feel I don't want to get sued,
So boom, there you go anyway turning the page, but
not far as we bite in to the meal and

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there's a lot of meat on the bone.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
There's a lot of meat on the bone.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
So the headlines, which are just delicious, and this thing
has been blowing up all day long into the night now.
And one of the questions, I think it's a legitimate question,
and it's kind of the obvious one. It is like
you see these headlines, Oh my god, oh man, oh mercy.
You know, there's a big effing And so if you

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get down to it, how much jail time are Terry
Rosier and Chauncey Billups actually facing?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
How much are they actually facing?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
So if let's just take out the mallor of machete
and cut through the dog and pony show. So the
FBI put on their own and pony show, right, that's
what they put on.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
You know, that's a big deal, high profile arrests.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Law enforcement loves it because it gets a lot of
attention and people love to talk about it and makes
them look good.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
And so the FBI loves when they can.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Nail the the big ragou, and so this is good
for them. But you hear these very big numbers being
tossed around, you read different things, and you're like, well,
social media facing up to ten years or up to
twenty years in jail and that part of it.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
And maybe I'll be wrong on this. I might be
wrong on this.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
However, it is my theory that those early reports are
a trip to the Apollo Theater, and there's a special
showing at the Apollo Theater. It's called Kabuki Theater er go,
It's it's all a mirage. Now my hot take, you
ready for Buckle up? Benny's hot take, first hour hot take,

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when the dust settles. None of these cats, the in
terms of Billups and Rosier, are gonna do real hard time.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Now.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's easy for me to say, you know, we've got
guys that are incarcerated listening to the show. And I
know our buddy in Pennsylvania who's he's getting out from Chicago.
He's getting oounced at some point here, not that far away,
but he's doing some serious time. You know. I would
for me, serious time would be like, you know, a day. Now,
that would be that would be pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
But what's gonna happen here is the lawyers are gonna
get a bag.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Everyone else will be given the opportunity to sing like
a canary. And before you know it, these guys are
going to be having cocktails in Cancun. And remember up
to up to is a classic weasel phrase. Now, the
first domino to fall in this story was Johntay Porter

(15:48):
of the Toronto Raptors formerly and he hasn't been sentenced yet.
He's going to be sentenced in December, and so he's
looking at here we are in late October.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
He's looking at up to four years.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
However, it is believed that he snitched, which likely led
likely possibly led to what we have going on the
last twenty four hours. He gave the right names up
and so he'll likely get a sweetheart deal. As for
Billups and Rosier, they're not exactly El Chapo, if you
know what I'm saying on that. So they are celebrities.

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Billups a bigger name, but he is he's a former celebrity.
You don't have a star when you're coaching the Trailblazers.
And Rosiers and roster spam at this point, so their accessories.
Though in a gambling ring, you gotta find a way
if your billups to blame the interpreter, right, it's always
the joke here, Just find a way. Say I have
an interpreter who he interprets the Italian mob for me.

(16:46):
That's the silver Bullet. Otani's playing in the World Series
on Friday Night, and he was involved in one of
these stories. Now, the worst case is these guys get
sent inced a couple of years in jail or something
like that. But realistically, you're gonna get a little jail
time at club fed and then some probation. You're gonna
have to pay a big fine and all that, and
your reputation is trashed. And that's what's gonna happen. But

(17:07):
when they just you know, they have to update their
passport to find a new gig, and you can go
coach in Vatican City. I think there's a team called
the Vocaro's in Vatican City or the Monaco mad Men
or something like that. But the only people guaranteed to
win here Again, to the lawyers, they always win. They
always win, they do all right. Last word, So we
go down thirty thousand feet in the sky, and we

(17:32):
asked the question for the esteem panel, what is the
fallout from this latest wrinkle in the NBA gambling underworld,
if you will, So, what is the fallout on this? Well,
the streets have been talking, and there's and we're gonna
talk about as we go through the overnight. But we're
hearing the you know, Congress is already there's people trying

(17:53):
to get some free publicity like, well, we're gonna, we're
gonna look at this and so that to me, that
is Congress is going to ride in on their white
horse and save America from prop bets. There'll be special
hearings on Capitol Hill and this is rather obvious stuff here.
Lawmakers are going to drag Adam Silver, Roger Goodell, rob Manfraud,

(18:14):
and Gary Bettman, the four horsemen of the gambling Apocalypse,
to DC. And the chatter is that Congress is going
to propose out long or putting restrictions on prop bets
and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Now you know who wins on that. Here's the ironic part.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
If you play this out and looking at this logic,
can't tell me if I'm wrong or not.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I don't think I'm wrong on this. Okay, of course
I never almost never think I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
But let's assume go down the rabbit hole where Congress
eventually bans prop bets.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Okay, you with me on that so far, you're good? Okay,
you shaking hand? Yes, all right?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
So you know who ends up winning? The Italian mafia
they win. Congress is not saving anyone from anything. They're
just pushing it back to the to the alley behind
the sub shop. Seriously, if if the US, if Congress
bans prop bets, okay, the mob throws a welcome home party.

(19:08):
Doctor Vinnie Boombots has got balloons and Canoli's waiting.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Come on down, and don't fool yourself.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
The props are have become the lifeblood of modern gambling.
And you take that away, the action is not gonna stop.
It's not It's just gonna go underground. That's just the
way it is. You go to the farmer's market, it's
forbidden fruit, the forbidden fruit effect, prohibited items gain mystique.

(19:39):
Have you read about prohibition and what that?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Did you know? A million years ago in America.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
The mob propapalooza, cash, no oversight, no paper trail, of
course everything's done on phones now, so they'd have to
have something online, but it would be prohibition two point zero.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
You cannot outlaw demand, and so you're just gonna hand it.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
If they did banned these things and outlaw them legally,
you're just gonna hand them back to the wise guys
and make sure you put a nice big.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Red bow, big red bow on top.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
So if this happens, Congress gets it's it gets you know,
it's press conference.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
The League gets to say, hey, you know, we've got.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Integrity now we want our fans to know everything's good,
and the mob gets rich again. Brilliant what should go wrong?
Great plan? Anyway, those are some of my opening thoughts.
You want to chime in on this. I can only
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Speaker 1 (20:44):
And you also talk about that Thursday night game, which.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Was an absolute dud, an absolute dud of a Thursday
night game, as the Vikings decided they just didn't feel like.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Playing and they did not.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
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straight ahead for us.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
It's getting good in here. You know about mister big Shot.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
How about mister big statement and all the toys, all
the toys.

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Now back back to it, all right, we are, We're back.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
At it, and we began with the big scandal in basketball,
and we will yap about that some more.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
What's allerin?

Speaker 7 (23:09):
Just love a good scandal.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I do too.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Scandal to me, scandal radio is the greatest type of radio.
I love it. I can't get enough of it. It's
a feeding frenzy. Every morsel I would just I'd like
to chew every morsel. It's delicious, just great tabloid fodder.
And the reason, well the reason scandals in general are

(23:35):
are wonderful is because you get secondhand pleasure you do, right,
It's just it's it's titillating people bending boundaries and things
like that and enjoying the possible punishment was getting a workout. Well,
there's delight from watching someone either get away with it

(23:57):
or you know, even if they don't either way, and
then they beg you for forgiveness. And it's just a
nice distraction from our everyday lives and all that. So
it's not for those involved, but the upheaval, the disruption, disturbance,
all of that, all of that just a wonderful gift

(24:18):
for those of especially.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
You do talk radio. I mean, my god, holy crap
is that great?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Is that not just a wonderful as mister irrigation from Houston? Right, So,
and it says great story, he enjoyed it a lot.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Who else do we have to see?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Page down Mister nice guy says, sent a random message
from somebody who pointed out back in January of this year,
January thirtieth, that Billups was involved in some shady stuff
as coach of the Trailblazers.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
And yeah, there are.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Some some whispers that it's not just the poker thing
for billups that he's tied with the other part of
it as well, which is interesting. Nature Boy, answering the
Call to the Wild, says, the initial reaction to the
gambling story, this story might be bigger than the Travis
Taylor love story.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Andy in the Bluegrass says, a great call. Goodfellow is
the ultimate mob movie, perfect film. He points out Big
Rig Rob, who's now Big Bus Driver Rob, but he
still keeps the hand on whatce You're known by a name,
you can't change the name.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
It's rules of overnight talk radio.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
So Big Greg Rob says, Hello, Ben, cannot wait for
your opening monologue as usually nailed it. Thank you use
the money I saved from my tire rack dot Com
purchase to he says, to lay three team Parlay. I'm
pretty sure there are some nervous pro bouncy ballers out
there and that tool Adam Silver is done. It's gotta

(25:56):
be tough for them. The basketball writers like worship Adam Silver.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
He's like a god. He's like a god, and so.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
I don't know what they're gonna do, Like this is
not a great look for Adam Silver. Doc Dan from
Minnesota rights and he says, hey, man, consider yourself lucky
you were not in La at that Viking Charger game.
The Vikings left the enormous stank cloud over LA. As
a Minnesotan doc, Dan says, I'm hoping the aircraft controllers
call in sick. Well, they're all they're not getting paid,

(26:25):
he says, so they have have to land in Milwaukee,
or they should make him make them fly into like
Detroit and have to bust back over to Minnesota or
something like that. You know, yeah, yeah, I was gonna go.
I was supposed to go to that Viking Charger game.
I was scheduled to be there. And then the reason
I'm in Vegas is the boys from Kfan the Power
Trip Morning Show, which is a monster morning show. They

(26:49):
somehow like our show and so they invited me. It's
a little closer to get to Vegas from LA than
it is to Minnesota. So they're doing a show from Vegas,
their morning show after our show because we're there leading
to their show, and I'm gonna pop on over there
and hang out with those guys for a little bit.

Speaker 7 (27:06):
So some back to back action this morning.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Huh, yes, you know.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Consider it a lot of radio, A lot of radio
I'll be running on fumes and they play this I've
been invited Lorena. They play this game called the Initials Game,
which is very popular, and I'm thinking, if I'm coherent,
i'll be fine. But by the time they play the game,
I want to be on Fume, so I'll be like hollering, James,

(27:31):
it's gonna be it's gonna be bad. So but I'm
scheduled to play that, so we'll see how that goes,
which is like yeah, but I'm excited. I mean, those
are good radio They're good radio dudes, so I'll have
we'll have some fun.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
We'll have a good time. Love hanging out with radio dudes.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Fat Daddy writes in says Big Ben some great in
depth investigative reporting. There's no investigative reporting. I just told
you what I saw to that fiasco. As you just
know how to do a monologue and just investigate, investigate.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Great work. I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Uh, he says this is from Fat Daddy, not yeah,
he is the daddy.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
I'm pretty sure that coop de loop. You know, I
don't know, you'll be worried there.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
He's You're not going did you ever play poker with
Chauncey Phillips, Cooper Loup, you never did, right, You've never
played poker with Coop?

Speaker 1 (28:16):
With him? No, No, I did not.

Speaker 7 (28:20):
But that being said though, yeah, and I don't know,
like whatever, I don't care. Uh, I do play at
a game that Glenn Davis was at at one point.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Well, he's in jail and the in jail, yes.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
He is for something else, yes, insurance fraud.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Okay, yeah, did he win when he when he was
playing there?

Speaker 7 (28:44):
Did he From what I was told by the guy
who runs the game who I'm friends with, No.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yea, he did not. Okay, I got you. I got you?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Uh? Now are you scared at all? The thing that
blew me away? All the toys? I tease this like
I wasn't own. There's shady people involved in anything. And
I work in radio. There's a lot of shady people
in my business. And in gambling there's a lot of
shady people because there's money involved. You can win some
quick money. But the details of how the FBI claims

(29:14):
they were rigging these poker games is like James Bond
on steroids.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
It's wild.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
They had the video went viral of these glasses you
could buy in China that are X ray glasses and
then you can mark the deck and they'll tell you
what the cards.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Are so cool, it's wild They have rigged shufflers. These
are things they don't even know about that are out there.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
The lenses, they're like, they're really that's like wild man.
How many people? How many people ran to t mood
to try to buy those classes.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
I've known about technology like this, I'm not too concerned.
I'm not playing at high stakes poker games and a
lot of this stuff like those, the rigg shufflers and
like the x X ray tables, I'm putting that in quotes.
Those are very expensive equipment. And like the games that
I go to, you're not like seeing I don't know,

(30:15):
hundreds of thousands of dollars being played, like at you know,
the Chauncey Billups games.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, so I just don't know that it's worth it.

Speaker 7 (30:23):
And and in the situation of the marked cards, the
people who run the games would have to be in
on it. And you know, at least at least if
they look like the video, you know where the cards
are sealed already marked. But you know there's still stuff
that you can like you can market yourself as you're
playing on on legitimate cards if you have some sort

(30:44):
of substance on your finger.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
You know what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah, for sure.
It's uh, it's wild man, It's it's crazy. And they,
you know, they were explaining you know who knows you
know this again, this is the FBI's version. I'm sure
there'll be a different version when they if this goes
to trial at some point, good luck on that. I
doubt this will go to trial, by the way, I'd
like to point that out.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Just go on the record early. I don't think it'll
go to trial, you know, go down the line.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
But they said that they told the mob guys told
Chauncey he was winning too much to let the mark
win because he kept winning.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
According to the FBI. Thing.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
But the thing about the Feds, and it's one of
the great quotes of all time from Bino Cook, the
old long ago a college football guy, long long.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Gone, Bino Cook.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
But Bino Cook once said the greatest line about the Feds.
They never have a road game, and they are the
favorites every single time they go to trial, and they
cover just about every time. You know, it's like they
have home field advantage and they're favored to win, and
they win, what is it eighty ten percent of the

(32:00):
time when they go to to trial. So the lawyers
will advise you to take a plea deal because you're
not gonna beat them, and that's usually how that goes.
Every once in a while, it does happen.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
So we'll see.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Spots Weed writes and says, I remember when Chauncey Billups
was hired as the Trailblazers coach in twenty twenty one
over Becky Hammond. There were some assault issues in his past.
People in Portland were not happy and he was hired anyway.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Well, you don't have to worry about that, spots Weed.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
I'm relatively confident that Chauncey Billups has coached his final
game in Portland or in the NBA G manage in Chicago, writes,
and he says, excellent monologue A plus. If prop bets
get banned by Congress, I'll be placing my wagers with
the trash man from Naperville, Illinois. Louis lardlegs JJ from

(32:55):
Reent and says, the gremlins almost got you, Ben, they
almost got Well, they can attack me all they want
my problem, that's not somebody else's problem. Let's see what
else you have? A page n gunners naming people he
thinks are going to get in trouble. Can't read that,
Ferg Dog says, the happiest man on earth right now

(33:16):
is Steve Balmer. He's worth more than one hundred and
fifty billion dollars. And not a single person is talking
about the Kawhi Leonard, no show job.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
The Clippers are feeling pretty good. Feeling pretty good? Sure?
Why not? Absolutely? What else you have?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
See page and pilots, love props bets, prop bets from
Eke in Roseville, Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Let see, I can't read that. We'll take some calls here.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
By the way, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
is the number eight seven seven nine nine six sixty
three sixty nine.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Let's go to B in Bismarck. What's going on? Be welcome? Hello, B?

Speaker 4 (34:00):
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Man?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
If I if I.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Was any better, if I was any better, I'd be
a Billups. But not Chauncey Billups because he's having a
bad day.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
I agree, Speaking of which, we might have to change your.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Draft Kings thing because not all of everybody's favorite players
are playing in the NBA anymore. Well, I'm pretty sure
none of the commercials have Terry Rozier in the.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I'm not speaking for any sponsor. I'm just I'm pretty
confident that no one's you know, and dropping his name.
I'm just saying, you know, what, do I know?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Maybe they are?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
So Pete Rhodes is never allowed to be in the
Hall of Fame because there is gambling issues or any
of these nuts going to be allowed to have a
chance at the Hall of Fame. Well, Terry was here,
could buy a ticket to go to a Hall of Fame.
I don't know what you do with Chauncey Billups. They'll
argue right now, it's just.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
A poker thing. They're rumors, it's more than that.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
We'll see how that that all shakes down. But uh,
you know, he's he's in the middle of it. That's
that's for sure. He's in the thick of it. And
uh so you know he's he's got all kinds of
all kinds of all kinds of records and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
And I'm very decorated career, but yeah, what what's that?
What's that?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
B I feel like I feel like the NBA was
so desperate for for some ratings that they had to
bring this investigation in during the games. Oh, I promise
you they did not want this. I guarantee they did
not want this. You can any I know everyone turns
everything to a conspirate.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Ratings are good ratings?

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Well?

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, but this is this is not I trust me
they're not because if if we if you, if you
start thinking the games are crooked, you're not gonna watch.
There's no reason to watch if you think these are
all rigged games and not gonna watch.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
All Right, I got thank you, B. All right, there's
the great B from Bismarck. There.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
It is the Bane Malar Show. So Chauncey Billups, mister
big statement. Chauncey Billups releasing a prepared statement after he
left a Oregon facility and he denied he denied illegal
gambling allegations. Now, would have that been something if Chauncey Billups.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Said yeah, I did it, did it gott he did it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:23):
But he was hit with travel restrictions, a passport given up.
The only way the only place he can travel to
is Brooklyn. He has a New York court date in
federal court, so he has to go to that. But
other than that, he's he's stuck in Oregon. So that's
where he's going to be for a while, not going anywhere,
and he's not coaching, and he's getting paid. He's on

(36:45):
the Natty list, but he's still going to get paid.
It is the Ben Mahler Show. Time now for the
who Am I?

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Game? This is where we pretend to be somebody else
Leu's We call it the who am I? Game?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
So Denver Nuggets star Aaron Gordon had ten three pointers,
hying me for the most in a season opener in
NBA history. Again, Nuggets started in a game wild game
there with the Golden State Wars. Nugget star Aaron Gordon
had ten three pointers, tying me for the most and

(37:15):
a season opener in NBA history.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Who am I?

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Who?

Speaker 1 (37:19):
That is the question? The answer. We'll get to it.
We will do it next.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
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Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Bill Miller and you.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
It is the Ben Mahler Show, up all night, every
single night, as we chop down the overnight hours here
and good to have you alongside.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
We'll playoff the who Am I Gaming?

Speaker 2 (37:43):
A minute reminder, the fifth Hour podcast returns later today.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Have a fresh episode.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
We'll be recording it here in Lost Wages, Nevada from
the iHeart Compound and you can hear that coming.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Up a little bit later today.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Also the obviously this show's podcast and save for Puster,
so you can catch that as well. And now back
to it, right back to it, and before we pay
off the who am I Game, we have the always amazing,
always amazing tire Iraq play of the night. We go
now to the Bay Area and the Warriors and the

(38:20):
Nuggets and Jimmy Buckets getting it done. Curry gets it,
gets a Sweatch, gets another screen, doppled fights Butler at
the foul I Draymond to Hertford Buffake looks up fights Butler.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Top of the key three. God here it.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Is as Tim Roy, the long time the voice of
the Warriors, I know when he was in the guy
in Sacramento with the call.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
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Speaker 1 (39:03):
Time to play off Now the who am I? Game?
Where we pretend to be somebody else? As we call
it the who Am I? Game?

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Nuggets star Aaron Gordon in that game then went to
the Warriors. He had ten three pointers made, tying me
for the most and a season opener in NBA history.
Who am I? That is the question. What is the answer?
And see here ay Meenium Monum, Doyle Brunson, guests by
Sean in Portland are colleague Breed a big fan of

(39:32):
the jail Blazers. Who else we have have a Sean
Leonard from alf the Alien Opiner nineteen ninety three slam
Dunk Champion from random Ryan, He says Seymour Butts, who
actually is a listener to the show?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
I don't want to say that because he's interesting. Name?
What else a show?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Hail Tani from Scrooge, William Wilford Brimley, the legend from
Rob Diabetes.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
What else do we have? Detlift shrimp from William?

Speaker 2 (39:56):
That's his answer, Paigia Sotyakovich misspelled by Ike and Rose Minnesota.
Jesus Shuttlesworth aka Ray Allen Bang Bang from who else
but Rudy Venson Rudy, I think that's his name. Jalen
Ramsey's thirty one Today from Late Night Drug Tester. That's
his answer. The Great Shaquille O'Neill Shack where You're at

(40:19):
from Andy in Lion o' lake's page Down, Uncle Phil
from King Rory, that's his answer. Alexa Bliss from Just
Josh in Cincinnadi. Dick Drego from Robbie the Mariner fan
Mike Smreck guessed by Rich that's his answer.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Billy Bong Thornton from Far Out Dave Loraino, do you
have an answer? Loraina?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Captain Hook Ben.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Captain Hook Fine answer unfortunately is incorrect. The correct answer
scary Terry believe it or not? Terry Rosier. Yeah, that
guy made ten three pointers back in twenty twenty while
playing for the Charlotte Hornet.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
That so he's tied for the NBA record. I'm guessing
he will not ever have a chance to break the record.
You know what I'm saying.
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