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June 6, 2025 • 40 mins

Ben Maller talks about Tyrese Haliburton & the Pacers stealing Game 1 of the NBA Finals from the OKC Thunder, who is to blame for the Thunder blowing the game in the 4Q, what this game does for Indiana moving forward, Adam Silver dismissing the idea of shortening the NBA regular season, and more!

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Mahler and Danny g Radio here in our number one
the NBA Finals Game number one, the Pacers and the Thunder,
and it was a dinger of a finish, a surprisingly
good game one. Even though Oklahoma City led ninety nine

(01:06):
point nine percent of the game, they end up losing
on a Tyrese Haliburton jumper who is the biggest donkey
for SGA's thunder.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Also, what does that game do for Halliburton?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
And what does that game do for the Pacers as
they snatch game one while Adam Silver. Adam Silver, dismissing
the idea of shortening the NBA season, says, I don't
really see the benefit. What is he really saying. We'll
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so our lead this hour, and that's how you start
in NBA Finals game number one right there in Oklahoma City,
and our lead story the opening act. The curtain went
up on the twenty twenty five Finals and as the
Pacers were massive underdogs, how big everywhere I looked, Oh,

(03:24):
this is gonna be a four games, gentlemen, sweep four
game series. Pacers just can't keep up. They cannot keep up,
and that's why they play the games. But they rolled
into Pettycoat Junction there play date with SGA and the
Thunder And I'm gonna assume the position you are not watching.
I'm gonna assume the position that you maybe tuned over

(03:47):
a little bit, but you weren't watching the whole thing.
So the NBA's most overrated over right it player, Tyree
Saliburton hits down, hits now the thunderer down by a
point he or the Pacers rather down by point Tyreuse
Halliburton a twenty one foot jumper doagger with zero point

(04:12):
three seconds left, and that gave Indiana their first and
only lead of the game. They trailed almost all the
way from soup to nuts, but the three point shot
or the jump shot by Halliburton there put them up
by one. The Pacers end up stunning, leaving Oklahoma City
mesmerized one eleven to one ten to the final in

(04:36):
game number one there of the NBA Finals, a whacky
to backie kind of a comeback to Pacers turned the
ball over twenty five times. You can't win the game
if you turn the ball over twenty five times, to
broadcaster said, trailed by fifteen points in the fourth quarter.
In the fourth quarter, it's a pit of vipers playing

(04:58):
in Oklahoma City, a team with the top home record
in the entire sport.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
And the Pacers could not slough. They could not stop.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
SGA the MVP, who had thirty eight points to lei
the way and None of that mattered. None of it
mattered because Halliburton, his basket was the great eraser on
the chalkboard there as Pascal Siakam led the Pacers with
nineteen points. Obi Toppin I had jotted down, this is

(05:30):
not a good night when I keep seeing Obi Toppin
hit shots. But it turned out to be a good night.
I was gonna mock Obi Toppin having seventeen points, but
in the end it worked.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
The formula worked.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Myles Turner had fifteen and Tyreese Halliburton a very quiet
fourteen points. Andrew Nemhart also had fourteen. So the Indiana
Pacers now three wins away from the championship.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
In Game number two.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Is back in Oklahoma City on Sunday night. The better
story is in the losing locker room, so that is
where we're going to direct our focus. That's where the
raw emotion is. You end up losing like this, it's
rather embarrassing. So let us discuss and we have some audio,
little flavor flav for you.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
It'll taste of this.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Here's Sga, the MVP of the NBA, commenting and says
that there was a lesson learned for the thunder Take
a listen.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
I don't know. It happened so fast. I feel like
we got matched. He got down going right, pulled up
from the midi and knocked down the shot. I don't know.
It didn't feel like anything crazy. He just he just
made a play. With the time winding down, we had
control of the game for the most part of it.
Now it is a forty eight minute game, and they

(06:52):
teach you that lesson more than anyone else in the
league the hard way.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Did it the hard way, but not that Tim Hardaway.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Here's more from the MVP of the NBA, SGA, who says,
even though it says NBA Finals and there's no other games,
these are called island games because they are the only
game in town in that sport.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
But SGA says his mindset is that's all the same.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
As much as we can, we just got to treat
it like every other game, every other situation we've been in. Yes,
we haven't been in the situation, but it doesn't mean
our character has a change or what we did last time.
It's still basketball, still the game of basketball that we
grew up playing. The rules don't change it just because
we're in the finals. So it's like we've been in
a situation before and the other situation we handled it.

(07:37):
We handled it well. We were better for game two.
And that's the goal.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's all about the goal.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
It's all about the goal.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
So it's all about well the Thunder coach Mark Dagano there,
he talked about the fact.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
That, eh, you just you just rinse it off and
move on.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Take a listen in games in series, if you make
it this are you have to endure to do that,
and it gives you rich experiences that you can draw on.
So the biggest experience we've had is understanding that every
game is a new game. The most important game in
this series is always the next one, regardless of the outcome.
We would have liked to win tonight, but tonight was

(08:16):
a starting point, not an end point. There's a lot
of things we can improve on. There's a lot of
things I'm sure Indiana thinks they can improve on. And
now the series starts to evolve. So I would have
liked to get the game, but you know, need to
be a better team in game two.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Okay, so that's my philosophy, right, I'm the most important
monologue is the one I'm doing right now. You know,
I'm not worried about next hour. I'm certainly not thinking
about hour three or hour four. You think I'm worried
about the Sunday and the Monday monologue or the podcast
I have to do later today, or maybe the podcast
I have to do on Sunday or the Saturday pot. No, no, no,
I'm focused. I'm in the moment. I am in the

(08:52):
moment right now. So let us discuss the question as
I do the monologue right now.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
I'm not worried about game two. I'm worried about this game.
So who is the biggest donkey for SGA's thunder the
Thunder from down Under?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
All right? So my thoughts on this. They've got Brazilian
butt Lift, Quick Trip and Netflix, and we will combine
all of these things together and we are gonna make
the Gobba Ghul. We're gonna make the Gobba Gool. Alright. So,
a Oklahoma city didn't have one donkey, they didn't have
two donkeys.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
They had a herd.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Of donkeys from up fifteen nine forty two to go.
You nurse that like a baby. Fifteen point lead, nine
forty two to go. Good teams don't blow fifteen point
leads with nine to forty two to go. So let's
get a team wide dunchcap. These guys all like to
take photos together when they win, right when they lose?
Do they all stand around and stare at the camera

(09:50):
and throw towels around it? Only when they win? Okay?
So the autopsy of a gag, the autopsy of a pratfall.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
This was a vaud villion vaudevillian choke job.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
And I'll mention the three stooges here, Jalen Williams, Loud Dort,
and Chet Holmgren, the pilot and the co pilots of
that's right, the vomit comet.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
They were right there in the cockpit on the vomit comet.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Now, as the thunder closed the game, they were again
up fifteen. They were outscored in the final nine minutes
and forty two seconds thirty two to sixteen thirty two
sixteen at home by the Pacers in the NBA Finals.
And how did the pilot and co pilots do well?

(10:37):
Williams and Dort and also Homegren combined to go zero
for seven. I didn't play in the NBA. I don't
think that's particularly good. Oh, you're being too difficult. What's
wrong with you, man, what's wrong with you? You're being
a hater. Okay, Well they had two points. That's it,
two points in the final nine to forty two barf City. Now,

(10:59):
do you think I'm going to give a pass to
SGA that he's fine? He had ten He did have
ten of the final sixteen points for Oklahoma City. Nope,
because he.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Visited the brick house.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
If you watch the end of this game, Oklahoma City
had the ball, they had the chance to put the
game on ice. SGA took a jumper, little baby jumper
and it was a brick house. Could have sealed the
game right there. And then Haliburton came down.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
And said, daer.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
He said, day, of course, I'm happy about this outcome out.
I want to I want to see Indiana win this series.
Not that I have any skin in the game here,
but this game one validated several of our long standing
hypothesis on sport that stats tell you what has happened,
not what's going to happen. Now, for reference, the thunder

(11:59):
I kept eating different articles, different stories online about Oklahoma
City and people's giving their opinions and the general consensus
by people that claim to be smarter than you, and
I is that this particular Oklahoma City team was so stacked.
It was like they went out and they got the
Brazilian butt lift. I mean, they were just I mean, man,

(12:19):
they were in charge. They were strutting down the catwalk,
shaking their tukas their badunka dunk, and they went out
there a Godzilla sized favorite, Godzilla sized favorite. Oklahoma City
thirty six and one at home with a fifteen point
lead this season, thirty six and one when they went
up by fifteen and you're in the NBA Finals, you.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Had SGA your MVP home.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Cooking, and none of it mattered. None of it mattered
at all. Also, most games are lost, not one. You
have to finish the race. The thunder didn't get her
done down the stretch and they sucked any time you
cannot suck, and so they lose. Now turning the page,
So what does this game do for the Pacers and

(13:04):
what does it do for individually? Tyrese Halliburton, as he
was the guy playing hero ball at the end. So
we'll start with Halliburton. Why not? So this is another
pillar building the pillar of a legend who was the
most overrated player, as voted by his peers, not the media,

(13:26):
not the coaches, by his fellow players. They thought he
was overrated. And now he's gone out there and he
stopped at the quick trip. It's classic myth making, raising
your Q score up, up, up, and you think of
some of the great folk heroes in America. Johnny Appleseed
comes to mind here. Now it's Tyrese the Terrible, the
cold blooded assassin in clutch time as he has gone

(13:49):
to in and out Burger and he has gotten a
four by four. That's four game winning baskets in four
playoffs series. Haliburton hit the game winner in the final
one point one second of every round in the playoffs.
He did it against the Doc Rivers, Bucks, the Spider,
Mitchell Calves, the Jalen Brunson Knickerbockers, and now the SGA Thunder.

(14:14):
And you take a couple of steps back. So what
does it mean for Indiana, Well, it's no playoff series
truly begins until the road team wins. And so okay,
we checked that box done. And what it does is
it puts the pendulum on and really the choke hold
on Oklahoma City because the Pacers have now set the

(14:35):
tone and all these people who were writing these wonderful
stories just licking the toes of Oka. See, the Pacers.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Went out there and did trail for ninety nine point.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Nine percent of the game. But it doesn't matter. All
you remember is the outcome of the game, and it
doesn't matter. You don't get like half a win if
you led most of the game. And Indian went out
there and had a nice candlelight dinner, and they had
the mood lighting and everything was good, good vibrations, and
they went out there and they win the game of
the end. All right, Now, last word to the State

(15:09):
of the League address. As the NBA Finals were underway,
Commissioner Adam Silver, he represented the Lizard People, and he
spoke to the assembled NBA media, Adam Silver making it
clear that he has no interest, none, in taking a
machete and shortening the eighty two game regular season, saying, quote,

(15:30):
I don't really see the benefit. I don't really see
the benefit, Silver said, the reducing the number of games.
He went on to say, people used to say you
should reduce the number of games because it will lead
to a reduction of injuries. If that were the case,
you'd think you'd have more injuries in April than in October.
We don't see that. Silver continued his diatribe. He said,

(15:55):
or you'd think you'd see more injuries in the playoffs
than you do in the regular season, but we don't
see that either. Post quote. Okay, So Adam Silver just
dismissing the idea of shortening the NBA season, saying, again,
I don't really see the benefit. What is he really saying?
You know what he said, but what was he really saying.

(16:16):
So he's saying it does not compute. The math ain't
mathing here. So he's talking about cold hard cash, those
crispy new fresh hundred dollars bill, that's what he's talking about.
This is all about those sweet, sweet television dollars. And
Adam Silver is like running a production company for Netflix.
There it's an eighty.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Two episode docu series with sneakers, load management.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
The series, it goes on and on and on. So
if you were to take that aforementioned machete and chop chop, chop, chop,
chop and chop away, I don't know ten games, So
you now have ten fewer items to sell. Your inventory
has gone down and so okay, that's fine, that's ten games.

(17:03):
You can't get money from ESPN, NBC, Amazon or whatever
the other streaming service they come up with here.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
So that's the benefit he doesn't see because it hurts what.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
The bottom line. It's all about the bottom line. You
can do all the charity you want, you can be
the wokest of the woke, but ultimately you're not that
woke when you have a product and you don't want
to cheapen the product because you want to make that money.
The NBA regular season, in so many ways, it's like
it's like watching c SPAN, you know, on Congress it's
c SPAN, like, you know, it's millionaires. Most Congress people

(17:36):
are millionaires, taking days off, not voting, not showing up
to their work, you know, for month after month after month.
And Adam Silver knows also, and this is actually something
I truly believe in here, Adam Silver knows that you
cannot chop chop enough games off the schedule because of

(17:57):
load management. It's baked into the DNA. The players are soft.
The players are told to be solid. They're raised that way.
So it doesn't matter whatever the number is. You could
shorten the season to sixty games, get rid of twenty
two games. Snip snip. That done with twenty two games.
So from eighty two to sixty, you could give the

(18:17):
players weekly massages and acupuncture and they'd still sit out
half of those games. They now play thirty games instead
of right now the eighty two game schedule, the players
play maybe you know, fifty five games or so, or
fifty games somewhere in that area, or sixty even. But
if it doesn't matter. You can't go low enough, and

(18:39):
you can't trust the players. You can't because whatever the
number is, even if they say, okay, you give us
that number, we're gonna play, they're not. And out of
an abundance of caution, they're gonna stay away. That's what
they're gonna do. You know it, and I know it,
and everyone involved knows it. That's the reality. That's another
reason not to get rid of any games. It is

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Speaker 1 (21:33):
Court of sports radio. Back to what we go back
to it and later this hour we'll have the who
am I Game? It's where we pretend to be somebody else,
as we call it, the who am I Game? A
lot of reaction flowing in here, and uh, ferg Dog,
Ferg Dog says Ben. I believe we are witnessing the
most clutch player of all time right now in Tyre's Halliburton, Clutcher,

(21:57):
then Steph Clutcher, then Lebarbie and far Clutcher than Kobe,
who was lucky to even draw iron on his many
failed game winning attempts. But the gold standard had been
had absolutely been Robert or from that generation. I think
already Tyrese Haliburton, He's only played a couple of years

(22:19):
in the playoffs, He's already more clutch than Lebron James.
I don't know anyone that would disagree with that. Lebron
is the least clutch player in terms of a player
that's considered an all time great. Has Lebron had four
game winning baskets in the final one point one seconds?
He's played in a thousand playoff games, it seems, over
his career, and Tyrese Haliburton has already done it. And

(22:40):
the thing about Lebron is he would often not shoot
the ball if the shot.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Was going to end the game, meaning if the.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Shot would would tie the game or they were over,
the game was tied, he didn't mind shooting him.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah you And then if the game it was a case.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Where the team he was playing for, Cleveland or whatever's
down by one. He didn't really like shooting it in
that situation and very rarely made it, very rarely made
it in that situation. Fred in Nebraska rights and he says, Man,
I won't pay the money to watch an NBA game
on cable or streaming because it just isn't worth the

(23:18):
massive amount they want. And you can't get ESPN streaming
online unless you also subscribe to a cable TV service
that includes their channel, which I don't. He says, he's
rambling here, Fred, And besides, all I need to do
is look at the box score on the interweb. It's

(23:38):
updated with every basket. That's all I need. If I
am even interested in that, Well, you're good to go.
You don't need you find Fred, don't worry about it.
Shane in de Moin rites since says ten point zero
on the opening Mallard monologue. Then he says, Edmonton will
choke this away this series. I'm glad that you said
ten point zero on a basketball monologue. To give a

(24:00):
hockey take, Thank you, King, Rory writes In says, this
is the fourth time in the Pacers playoff run to
overcome astronomical odds to win a game. King Roy says,
something smells fishy and it ain't blind Scott, there is
more to this, either Indiana using some black magic, which

(24:23):
I find highly unlikely, or more likely, the NBA is
rigging these games. Time out, King Roy. First of all,
let's look at this objectively. How would one rig a
game this way? It's one thing to rig a game
where the officials. That has happened, right, Tim, Donnie, I
believe other games have been thrown Scott Foster, my opinion gains.

(24:45):
Sue me. To my opinion, there's some funny business going
on with that guy that said though, okay, if you're
just gonna have a lopsided foul situation or get certain
players in foul trouble, that's how you can rig a game.
I get it.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
In terms of this, what do you put a magnet
in the basketball?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
How deep you want to go?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
King Roy? He's like, page two is all right, Halliburton's
been making these shots. So is there some kind of
magnetic field that drives the basketball through the net with
one point one seconds to go? Is that how that's
gonna work? Tony writes and says Oklahoma City and SGA
choking looking like Lebron James in a big game. Absolutely correct, Tony,

(25:26):
good take by you. Truck Stop Fungus writes in says
both the NBA and the NHL need to shorten the season.
Well that's a hot take from truck stop Fungus. He says,
it's June, for Chripe's sake. Where is their ice? Well,
you'd have to go very far north. And I was
watching the Stanley Cup final game the other day and

(25:48):
according to the ratings, I was the only one and
it looked like beautiful weather in Edmonton. No no snow.
Although when I was in Vancouver last week I did
see on the mountains above Vancouver there was snow.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
So take that, truck stop Fungus. You gotta go to.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Vancouver, there's snow. Josh writes in The Long Suffering Bears
Fan who lives in Nebraska. He says, I didn't watch
the NBA finals. I watched a regular season Cubs win
over the Nationals. Go Cubbies, go there you go, he says,
But then we have Aaron Rodgers News. Yeah, we will
get to that. It's a four hour talk show. It's

(26:24):
not a one hour show. It's not a thirty minute podcast.
It's a four hour show. Nature Boy writes in, says,
great on manly monologue, when Halliburton had the ball down
by one, you could see Oklahoma City fans mouthing Oh
Sward like a ship. Loved it, loved it, said the
nature Boy. Nancy writes in says, who didn't know Rogers

(26:47):
was going to Pittsburgh? Purposely misspelled? I cannot believe I
used to like that guy, but he really is a
nut job or a huge ego.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
Well, who's the woman.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Her name's Nancy. That's her name, and here's the Nancy.
If you can't support athletes that have huge egos, you
might as well not watch sports because they all have
huge egos, all of them, every single one. I'll tell
you somebody. They didn't think Aaron Rodgers is gonna go
to Pittsburgh. Angry Bill, that's who. Now. I don't know
what's going on with him. He hasn't called in a while.

(27:18):
Maybe he's sick or something like that, or he just retired.
I have no idea, but he's he called up, and
Ah Rogers is not going to Pittsburgh and all that,
and another bad take by Angry Bill. He's had so
many it's hard to keep track of them all. It's
very difficult to keep up with that. Spox Weed rights
in from the Oregon Trail. He says, I can feel

(27:40):
it coming in the air tonight. Oh lord, the one,
the only, the Vomit comet shining brightly and beautifully over
the skies of Oklahoma City, lit up the sky for
nine minutes and forty two seconds, fifteen point lead gone.
Even Slim Tim the proud cheese head, It's like, wow,

(28:00):
that was bad. And he set up for the all
night party, absolutely all night party, no question about it.
And truck or Joe right sinces my tire I raq
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Rebound Indiana eight seconds to go.

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How many more times can this team do that?

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Speaker 1 (29:31):
The Pacers radio on the call to Tyreese Halliburton turned
out to be the game when he shot. It was
point three seconds left and he nailed it absolutely. Mister
Irrigation writes in from deep in the heart of Texas
in Houston. He says, so the NBA has started using magnets.
Sounds like they took a page out of the NFL.

(29:55):
And then he says the NFL is rigged. That's that's
his claim. It's a hot take. There a lot of
we got a lot. No, we got a lot of Listen,
I'm not beyond thinking some of this stuff might be true.
I'm not. Uh, let's go to the phones and let's
say Hello, Let's go to John, who's in Sacramento, and
that is a town Tyrese Haliburton used to play in

(30:16):
and they got rid of him.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Hello, John, welcome.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Hey, we come on, man, it's Jeff.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
You can come to King Dingling.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
If you want whatever. Okay, all right, joh just throw
up five.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
And they got the beamlet for Haliburton.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Oh they did. Is that right? They celebrated their incompetence.
Is that right? Jeff? Jeff? Are they gonna if the
Pacers do end up winning this, which I you know,
still a long shot. But if they win the series,
will Halliburton be brought back? Like if I was doing
one of the local sports radio shows, I would invite
Haliburton back.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
And have like a Tyrese Haliburton Day.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I'd give him like the key to Sacramento, have a
parade through downtown right by the capitol there. They got
to bring him back if they win, come on to
celebrate Haliburton. So why not?

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
We have a who's another guy that played in the NBA,
the mayor of secondmun He was he's got a day too,
Oh did he? I don't know, I know who you're
talking about.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
But yeah, going back real quick daunts with the guy
that we were going to pick up in the draft
but we end up picking vaguely dead.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, Oh he's you know, he's a good he's a
good teammate, you know, vaguely can't play.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
But is he even in the NBA anymore?

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I don't like it, so I don't I don't recall.
I mean, if he is, he's a backup, he's not playing,
he's not a Oh he.

Speaker 6 (31:34):
Doesn't play for Second Mount, so probably not.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, well exactly, all right, Well, thank you, Jeff. They
lit the beam up corning, Jeff. I think he's kidding,
but I don't think he's celebrate. Yes, I don't think
you want to promote that, just you know whatever. Let's
go to Andre. We haven't heard him Andre in a while.
He's in the Commonwealth. He's gonna break it down. Got
the x's and o's out, and he's gonna get the
the then diagram. Hello Andre in the Commonwealth. It's been

(32:01):
a minute.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
Yeah, it's been too long, Ben, and certainly as the
school year winds down, I'm looking forward to getting back
to my regular attendance and duties as a private in
the mal In Militia. Okay, we got under ten days
left here in the Commonwealth. The bright you know, the
weather is improving, sun is shining, so cross the t's

(32:23):
and got in the eyes. But I'm looking forward to
getting to getting back to duty here. Listen, in terms
of x's and o's, in this game, we saw Oklahoma
City had the game in hand. Indiana having real problems
with the perimeter defense that Okat can throw at them, right,
coach going small, putting shed at the five, you know,
and those wing defenders Cassan Wallace lou Dort really had

(32:43):
Indiana in hand. The bottom line is I had this
series going seven. I got no problem, you know. Okay, See,
you know it's not the sky is falling because they
were the better team, just like my New York Knicks
were the better team in Game one of the Conference finals.
You know, before you know, he Halliburton, you know, with
that sky shot that he hit. But Indiana encouraging to

(33:05):
see Rick Carlisle his leadership. What I'm getting at is
he just has guys coming off the bench that is
just and that can do different things. McConnell attacking the basket,
Obe topping with the threes, Nie Smith with the three
they score even though they might not be talents of pounds,
talented and kind of you know, put fear in your heart.
Rick Carlisle has been and continues to be an elite coach,

(33:25):
and he has really you know, all this stuff about
tips and how I'm not gonna get into it, you know,
how he was unfairly treated, so on and forth. But
Rick Carlisle has a number a lot of different ways
that he can attack teams with people coming off the bench.
And you you know, it's not anything in conclusion. If
guy's gonna come off the bench, Nie smiths tough and
and you know, Miles Miles Turner hit a couple threes,

(33:47):
you know, and hit those driving kick threes. There's really
no defense against that if the team is going to
make them. So bottom line, Calliburton who was supposed to
be overrated, right his fellow peers you know, had a
problem with him. Uh And so I think that narratives
you're gonna have to go the way to the Dodo Bird.
You know, after what we've we've seen in this playoffs,
win or lose, but this bad boy's going seven. Uh
just you know, like how the game?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, somebody, somebody though, had a Somebody sent me a message.
I'm gonna get this right now because I have to
find it. It was I thought it was a great take.
It was who had it here? I think it was
Uh William William wrote it. He said, Tyrese Halliburton is
doing the NBA version of an Eli Manning playoff run,

(34:32):
which you know, that's that's a solid take. I'd give
that an eight out of ten as a solid take
by William. It's a good job by you. As far
as the better team, one thing I have learned from
being a degenerate gambler over the years is that the
better team does not always win.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
In fact, how often do we get upsets?

Speaker 1 (34:53):
So there was a study done in the English Premier
League and they tracked you know, and there's talent gaps.
I'm not a not a soccer guy. Our buddy Nico
is a big soccer guy and he listens to the show.
But the English Premier League they did a study a
couple of years ago They said, underdogs win about twenty
to twenty five percent of the time in matches despite

(35:16):
clearly a universally agreed upon mismatch and talent. If you
look at a depth chart on a computer or a tablet, whatever,
they're outmatched. But yet there are upsets twenty to twenty
five percent of the time. Now, why is that? Injuries?
People don't show up to work. You know, you're thinking
about I gotta buy milk after the after the game,

(35:36):
or whatever, my dog's sick, you know, whatever that might be.
And you're not the team. The better team's not there,
and so there is unpredictability. And that's why you watch
the games. Now, once we get robots, once saw these sports.
Just put robots out there, then I guess there will
not be any unpredictability. It won't happen. Yeah, trucksop Fungus says,
every time I hear Haliburton, I think of Dick Cheney.

(35:58):
I'm not two are off from that. In fact, when
I first heard of Halliburton's name, I went and looked.
I said, I wonder if this is somehow tied to
the Halliburton. Apparently that's just just a surname, not any connection,
at least not according to the interweb at all. Well,
happy in Hooterville. We'll get to that. Timed out for
the who am I? Game? Shay Jogis Alexander had thirty

(36:23):
eight points in the loss for Okac. That is the
most in an NBA Finals debut since me again, Sga
thirty eight points in the loss for Okac, the most
in a finals debut since me? Who am I? That's
the question, the answer, We'll get to it. We'll do
it next.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
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Speaker 2 (37:28):
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the Whoma game.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Also, I want to promote this the Fifth Hour podcast
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And here is the aforementioned who am I?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Game?

Speaker 1 (38:31):
As Shay Gilgess, Alexander had thirty eight points in the
loss for okay, see that is the most in a
finals debut since me?

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Who am I? That is the question? What is the answer?
Let's does anyone know?

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Page down here? Let's see Kawhi load management Leonard from
Mark who says he mentioned Mark and Queen's. I don't
have time to read all that, Mark, but thank you.
Good luck. Cliff Levingston, there's a good name from Eke
and Roseville, Minnesota. Brooke Jacobe Solid nineteen eighties Cleveland, Indians.

(39:12):
Reference from mister nice guy Olden Polonies from Andrew in
the Barrier? Does he still work here? He occasionally he
would do work for us, Olden Polonies. I saw him
in the hallways of you.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yes, he's still here.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
He's still here? Is that right? Look at that? Who knew?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
He does a weekend show? Marker is something on the
weekends or it just pops in occasionally?

Speaker 1 (39:30):
He was on with Aaron Tarez this past weekend. Okay,
look at that? Who knew?

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Olden Polonies former NBA player still works for the company.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I had no idea Donkey sausage, says Cookie Crook and
Officer Crumb. What a great you imagine they still sell
cookie crisp. Let's give kids breakfast. We'll give him a
litt chocolate chip cookies. Perfect breakfast. What's unhealthy about that?
Joe Buck from Rob in Minnesota. That's his answer. Who

(40:00):
else do we have? I can't read that on the air.
All right, Mark, you probably don't have an answer. I'll
just give you the answer. The answer is the answer.
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