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November 24, 2025 • 40 mins

Ben Maller talks about the Bucs losing to the Rams on SNF and if Todd Bowles deserves to be ripped for Baker Mayfield's shoulder injury on the Hail Mary, Cris Collinsworth calling his 500th NFL game, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A pirate's life for me, well, not so much. Welcome
in the beginning of another hour and another edition of
the Ben Maler Show. Happy Monday to you. It is
the twenty fourth day of the month. I'm told there's
a big holiday coming up later this week involving mass
consumptions of turkey and stuffing and gravy and biscuits and

(00:22):
all that. But in the meantime you got a full
week of the Ben Malor Show, No days off, no
days off. And we begin the new week in Inglewood
at SOFI Stadium, the Rams playing host of the Bucks
in the Island Game. As the game not much of
a contest a Rams win big. Does Bucks coach Todd

(00:44):
Bowles deserve to be ripped for Baker Mayfield's non contact
shoulder injury on a Hail Mary before halftime? Also, what
did the eyes tell you on Matthew Stafford's MVP campaign
for the Rams? Another perfect performance by Stafford in the
Sunday night game. And what does this five hundredth NFL

(01:05):
TV game say about Chris Collinsworth As he called this
five hundred game there for NBC, not all for NBC,
but he had number five hundred last night. We'll talk
about that and more right now. Don't forget about the
Fifth Hour podcast. New episodes from the weekend. If you
missed it, download that Fifth Hour podcast. Thank you, thank you,
thank you. Here's our number one ull me pirate ship.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Not exactly sailing smoothly for a team that early on
people were hyping up the Buccaneers. Welcome in the beginning
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(03:01):
the week, we start with the Sunday Night NFL game
at so Far in the Hood in Inglewood and up
to No Good. Yeah, there a final game of the
Sunday portion. There's only one lonely Monday night game left,
but the last game on Sunday. There as Baker Mayfield

(03:23):
in Theory leading the Tampa Bay Football team the Pirate
Ship into the harbors. In Socar there a four round
heavyweight matchup against Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
And the L A. R.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I Ams. You can ram it all day, you can
ram it all night. An Island game on in b
SE Island game. They had Mike Tariko and Chris Coylesworth
calling the game. More on that in a minute. But
I don't know if you watched it or not, if
you were checking this thing out, not much of a game.
Game was O v R at halftime We watched, so

(03:59):
you were not have to. And what did do we see? Well,
we saw Devonte Adams catch not one, but two of
Matthew Stafford's not one, not two three touchdown passes for
Matthew Stafford and the La Rams jump out early and
never look back. That's called a boat race, kids. Thirty

(04:21):
one point first half and for Tampa was turned.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Out the last.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
The parties over as the Rams move into the Presidential suite.
Thank you so much to the Dallas Cowboys for helping
out beating up the pathetically overrated Philadelphia Eagles thirty four
to seven the final. As the Rams get to win,
the Buccaneers go down extended garbage time. Game was over

(04:51):
at halftime. There and the better story in the losing
locker room. A lot of consternation on the Tampa Bay
side of things in this one, rubbing salt into the
wound on the final play of the first half, Tampa
getting their bell wrong, Baker Mayfield trying to make something happen,
and he got dinged up right before halftime. There. As

(05:15):
the second half coming to an end, Baker Mayfield decided
to launch the Hail Mary and it did not did
not work. It did not have enough velocity to get
it done. However, what he did have was a shoulder
that started barking earth just like there was barking sound

(05:36):
of it actually barking there, And so Mayfield launching the
Hail Mary. His shoulder did not appreciate the Hail Mary there,
and Baker Mayfield kneeling in agony, the agony of defeat,
as he was holding his left shoulder. And then at
halftime the Buccaneers decided the game was over anyway, and

(05:57):
they shut her there. They shut her down now freaking out,
Oh my god, I can't believe that. Now. We don't
know all that much about how bad it is. It
might be fine. There's a chance it's perfectly fine. There's
also a dimension in the multiverse where it's a season
end injury for Baker Mayfield. Todd Bowles did not seem
too concerned postgame, Todd Bowles telling the media that as

(06:19):
of right now, it's just a shoulder sprain for Baker Mayfield,
who at one point was the darling in the MVP
race in the NFC. Todd Bowles says, they havn't MRII MRI.
That'll be coming up later on on Monday. The Buccaneers
making their way back to Florida, a long journey. They're

(06:40):
not traveling though by prop plane. They're actually gonna take
a big jumpbo jet to get back to Florida. So
there is that now, Todd Bowles being bashed the buccaneer
coach as why would you even bother? Why would you
put Baker Mayfield that situation? Oh my god, that's coaching
incompetence by Todd Bowles, blaming Todd Bowles. What's wrong with you?

(07:04):
And all that? All right, so let us discuss the
question on this one, right, does Todd Bowles deserve to
be ripped? Does he deserve to be ripped? A part
here for Baker Mayfield the hail Mary at halftime which
led to some kind of shoulder injury. How bad it
is we don't know yet. So on this one, I've

(07:25):
got Knickerbocker's brand ambassador and Jane Austen and we will
combine all of these things together and we're going to
make many brisket sliders, which they may or may not
have had at Sofi Stadium, Those many brisket sliders. So
a to answer the question, does Todd Bowles deserve to

(07:48):
be ripped? This whole train of thought is week with
a capitol w that's not w E e ks w
e A k week is what it is here. Cheap
heat is what it is. Todd Bowles. There's things you
can rip Todd Bowles about this particular play. I would
not put that high up there. You cannot coach scared,

(08:11):
cannot do it, cannot do it, can't play scared, can't
play scared. And that's that's football. We're not doing some
kind of dance class or something along those lines. So
like when I see oh my god, gam no, listen.
Baker plays one way. It's the beauty of Baker Mayfel.
He plays one way. He's like Rambo out there playing
quarterback for the Buccaneers. Good, bad, or indifferent. That's how

(08:33):
he plays, full tilt. That's it. And so the idea
is of no, no, we're just gonna take a knee
and go on at halftime. That's not That's not who
the Buccaneers are with Baker Mayfield. They shouldn't play that
way with US's just call it off, Nana. I disagree
with that mindset here. And the reason Tampa's got a

(08:53):
pulse and they don't have much of one at this point.
They've hit the Schneide as we like to say, but
you look at Tampa Bay, the reason that they were
thought of the way they were early in the season
was because they scratching claw. That's how they play. And
the bigger issue is at this moment they appear to
be circling the drain, they being the Buccaneers. At this moment,

(09:16):
they've lost four of their last five. Tampa I didn't
play in the NFL. I don't think that's good. And
getting currently in a position where if Carolina is able
to pull an upset on the Monday night game and
the Niners are certainly beatable, they have a no name defense.
It's not the invincible forty nine ers of years ago.
So it's not out of the realm of possibility that

(09:38):
Carolina wins that game. And if that happens, then Carolina
plays leap frog and the Buccaneers go free falling, free falling.
So there you go, of all teams, Carolina, though now
bad at the Bucks, they're allowing Carolina to climb up there,
and Tampa might be left holding the bag at this

(09:59):
particular point wild And so the thing about that the
indictment is not because of the Hail Mary, though it's
not because of the Hail Mary. It's the trajectory of
the Bucks season right now. Got off to a good
start and as the iconic the late great New York
Knickerbocker legend Michael Ray Richardson once said, the ship be

(10:22):
sinking and for Tampa Bay, the ship be sinking at
this particular point, and Todd Bowles is the captain of
the SS Buccaneer, and the SS Buccaneer is going down
to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. It's a shipwreck
site at this particular point, and there's water pouring through
every porthole. For the Buccaneers here, the offense has been sporadic,

(10:48):
the defense appears to be worn down and don't have
enough depth, so they're tired the urgency. While there is
still some urgency there, overall things are flatlining for the Buccaneers.
And the hell Mary issue that gets brought up there,

(11:09):
it's just the direction of things that's the issue there
for the Buccaneers. Tampa based problem is not the risk
or they won the Super Bowl. No risk at no
biscuit with the had Tom Brady at that particular point
and a different coaching staff for different head coach in
Bruce arians here, but the regression that's the problem. Todd
Bowles better plug the holes fast because the ship, as

(11:34):
we said, be sinking in Tampa. And that's a team.
There's only one team that's gonna get into the playoffs
you would think out of that division. So if Tampa
continues to lose, Carolina's got a shot to get in there. Now,
turning the page on the Rams side, we'd like to
circle back. Now, let's circle back to a conversation we've
had in previous episodes of the show. As the Rams

(11:57):
blow the doors off the Buccaneers in this Sunday night game,
came over at halftime, and the question must be asked,
what do your eyes tell you about the Matthew Stafford
ENVP campaign for the Rams after this latest masterpiece by

(12:18):
Matthew Stafford. So, Stafford, I've pointed this out in previous
editions of the show that I was not completely on
the Matthew Stafford MVP campaign. That was critical. I didn't
want to be a prisoner of the moment and all
that stuff. But Stafford just walked into the MVP arcade

(12:40):
and he's got full control of the joystick at this
particular point, Matthew Stafford and that Sunday night beat down
of Tampa Bay. That was an info mercial, is what
that was for the Matthew Stafford Marching and Chowder Society
for the Most Valuable Player award. That was it. It

(13:02):
was an island game. You're playing Tampa at the time
you played him. They're a playoff team themselves. You're at
home and what did you do? Well, you went out
there and slice them up, is what you did. Here
is a Sean McVeigh celebrating slap slap slapber all over
his quarterback take.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
As I think it feels like the game's slowing down.
I feel like he's in total command. I think he's
got a lot of trust in the teammates that he's
playing with, and you know, there's a true ownership and
it's I think he's just totally and completely present and
he's really just enjoying the opportunity to compete week in
and week out. You know, even just when he does
the breakdown with the team, he loves being a part
of this team. You can feel that he instills a

(13:42):
belief every time that we go out on the field,
we feel like good things are going to happen because
he's leading the way, and so I think he's getting
more and more comfortable with just the skilled players. You
could really see. I thought that was on display tonight.
But I'm really happy for him as a cool stat
that artist gave me, you know, twenty seven touchdowns in
a row without an interception, Tyan Tom. But he's playing great,
and we'll just continue to stay in the moment. But

(14:03):
I'm loving every second of this.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
All right, that was a lot of fluff, is what
that was by Sean McVay. How long was that? That
was pretty long?

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Second?

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Forty three seconds? My god, did he mention Stafford's name?
I don't think he mentioned his name at all. I
think he just he's just kind of ramble. He could
have been talking about me. I could have bet it's
Ben Maller, the Matthews Stafford. Forget about him, let's go
to Sean mean. But here's McVeigh on quarterback Ben Maller.
Take a listen.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
I think it feels like the game's slowing down. I
feel like he's in total command. I think he's got
a lot of trust in the teammates that he's playing with,
and you know, there's a true ownership, and it's I
think he's just totally and completely present and he's really
just enjoying.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
The opportunity to compete week in and week out.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
You know, even just when he does the breakdown with
the team, he loves being a part of this team.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
You can feel that.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Yeah, he instills a belief every time that we go
out on the field. We feel like good things are
gonna happen because he's leading the way, and so I
think he's getting more and more comfortable with just the
skilled players. You could really see. I thought that was
on display tonight. But I'm really happy for him as
a cool stat that artist gave me, you know, twenty
seven touchdowns in a row without an interception, tyme, Tom.
But he's playing great and we'll just continue to stay

(15:11):
in the moment. But I'm loving every second of this.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
All right, there you go? All right, My god, that
was that was a lot. There's a lot of fluff there,
a lot a lot of fluff from Sean McVay. Here's
Matthew Stafford, and here is Stafford who's was asked about
the way he's playing right now. I'm sure he said
he sucks. Yes, No, I'm not trying to label it.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
I just know him having fun, okay, and you know,
my body feels pretty good. Great at the moment. Like
I said earlier, the guys up front are doing a
hell of a job. Were keeping me clean. Shaan's got
great game plans weekend and week out for us to
you know, do what we need to do to be
successful on our side of the ball. And it's it's
been a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, congratulations. You see with brevity, he used brevity unlike
Sean McVay. So back to the point. So this was
an infomercial for the MVP campaign of Matthew Stafford. It
just just was the national spotlight, everyone watching and all that.
So I am now ready to go down to the

(16:10):
train station and I'd like to buy a ticket, and
I want to be on the hype train because I'm
there now at that game. Now he's in the lead,
he's in the pole position. And Stafford, who used to
throw interceptions like he was a brand ambassador for Turnovers
r US and now all of a sudden, that's a
spinoff of tooisr US. It was called Turnovers r US.

(16:32):
It didn't really do that well, I don't know why
and now he is a smooth operator all of a sudden,
in the twenty seven consecutive touchdowns without an interception, three
hundred and eight straight passes for Stafford without an interception,
just the eighth time that has happened in this century

(16:53):
that a quarterback has done what Stafford has now done
for the Rams and Aaron Rodgers that's like Rogers back
in Green Bay back in the day, or as McVeigh mentioned,
Tom Brady level discipline for Matthew Stafford, a guy that
we thought would be hurt by week five. He didn't
even practice and play in the exhibition. In the preseason games,

(17:14):
he was dinged up and all that. And here we
are Stafford looking relatively spry, moving around as well as
you can expect someone with his age and his back
and all that stuff, seeing the field. And Devonte Adams,
who looked like he was done skis with the Raiders
and the Jets last year, all of a sudden, now
lighting it up on a weekly basis for the La Rams,

(17:36):
and we'll see you with the rest of the season
provides so the Rams at this point we do the
show today. We have to worry about the show right now,
So at this point, everyone else stumbling. I think there's
no one. Who else? Who is number two? Drake may
forget about that Colts lost to Kansas City. They blew

(17:56):
a game. They had eleven point lead in the fourth quarter,
So that's that's no good. Who else is there? I
don't know. There's no one else at this point. There's
no one. It's Matthew Stafford. If he plays a couple
more games like this in a row. We are talking
about a Secretariat type breakaway in the MVP race as
we are coming up to Thanksgiving, and he certainly it's

(18:18):
not over yet, but he's in the pole position at
this moment here another month or more. This was the
Eureka game for Matthew Stafford, the moment where everything firmly
clicked in for everyone to see as Stafford has mastered

(18:39):
what McVeigh wants him to master. Considering that this was
not a guarantee, Stafford went out and was whined and
dined by Tom Brady. They went to Montana. Brady begged them,
He said, please come save the Raiders, and Stafford said, ah,
I'm good. And then the Pittsburgh steel has wanted Matthew
Stafford and he chatted with him and we want you
to come to Pittsburgh. I'm good, and he goes back

(18:59):
to LA And now look at this all right now
the last word to the press box we go. If
you're watching the Sunday Night game, you noticed that NBC's
Chris Collinsworth was feature there. He called this five hundredth
NFL game. Hey, we five hundred NFL games. As the
Rams took down the Buccaneers in the Sunday Night Game

(19:21):
and Collinsworth brought back the iconic classic collins Worth slide.
He brought it back, the slide returned. Used to do
that with al Michaels back in the day. The slide
was back. So the question here is the five hundred.
We love round numbers. Nobody cares about four ninety nine,
nobody cares about five oh one, but five hundred. Oh man,

(19:41):
we got all horny for five hundred. So the question,
what does the five hundredth NFL TV broadcast for Chris Collinsworth?
What does that say about Collinsworth? So on this one,
it is a It is a reminder that Collinsworth knows
exact how this game works. I'm not talking about the

(20:04):
game of football. I'm talking about the game of television.
Politics in television, and it's every media business very political,
but TV in particular. And nobody kisses tushy quite like
Chris collins Worth. Let's get it. Bravo to the as

(20:24):
kissing ability of Chris collins I'm jealous. And he's not
just calling football games. He's working. It's like he's working
at the cracker barrel and he's buttering biscuits. Is what
he's doing down at the cracker barrel, because that's why
he's he's what he does is as good as anyone
else in terms of the as kissing. Nobody is able

(20:48):
to get to that level that Collinsworth is able to
get to. He's built a career as a politician in
many ways. In the broadcast booth, you look at it,
you take a couple of steps back. Collinsworth played one
hundred and seven games for the Cincinnati Bungals, one hundred
and seven games. He's now suited up and been the

(21:08):
lead commentator on five hundred NFL broadcast. Not to mention
the time that when I met Collinsworth years ago, he
was doing the studio show with Bradshaw, Howie Long and
James Brown and those guys that they were doing the
studio show on Fox. Collinsworth was the last person in
there and then he went back to calling games on television.
But when Collinsworth is out calling a game, it's it's

(21:32):
like he's watching you. When you have him in the booth,
it's like he's watching. It's like he's watching Michael Angelo
paint Assistine Chapel. While he's calling a game. He doesn't
break down the game per se. Collinsworth has this ability.
He's like he's like Jane Austen in the fact that
he romanticizes it. Right. It's persuasion, is what it is.

(21:54):
It's all that the NFL clearly loves it, or Collinsworth
would have been long gone. The slide move that slid
on in that is a signal to the NFL say, hey, fellas,
i'p I'm still the good soldier. I know how to
play nice slapper slapper slabber. Yes, jezus, the NFL protects.

(22:17):
The NFL protects the guys who protect the shield. Now,
there was a point there was a broadcaster long ago.
You don't know who this is, but there was a
guy named Howard coast Sell real arrogant sob Howard coast Sell,
and he didn't play nice. He would take shots at
the NFL and he would be very critical, hold them accountable.

(22:38):
And that's a different generation. That's when people expected the
media to attack. Now the fanboys want the media to
wear their knee pads, is what they want. And Collinsworth
is really good at that, right, So he's not someone
who's gonna challenge the coaches and the players and be
overly critical there. It's almost like he's hosting a nice

(22:58):
dinner party. He's doing the games and so there you
go Sunday night. He'll be doing that till he's what
eighty five ninety years old, Just same old rhetoric and
all that. And he's in Mayes like he's the Captain
America of butt kissing. That's what he is. And business
is booming, absolutely booming. It is the Ben Mahler Show.

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As we settle on in for the brand new week,
and it's good to know the streak continues here at
Fox Sports Radio. Come in on the end of a
weekend and things are aped up just a little bit.
Wouldn't have it any other way. Wouldn't have it anyway.

(24:56):
I love coming in here professional broadcast and having everything
fed up. Can't get enough of it. It's a tradition
unlike any other. Oh, the beat just keeps going on
and on and on and on. We sucked, and we
sucked at a time that you can't suck. We played
bingo on what will be fed up when we come

(25:17):
back to work, and never fails, never fails, never fails.
All Right, If Ferg Dog says, I've got three hot
takes for you, Ben, the Rams are the best team
in football. Matthew Stafford the MVP, and Gunners Panthers will
win the NFC South Boom. Yeah, Well, Ferg Dog, lay

(25:39):
off the sauce, all right, layoff the sauce. Bad job
by you, Scrooge, right since says What I took out
of the Sunday Night game was that Teddy Bridgewater, a
name I haven't heard in a while. Watching him play
the second half, now I remember why he's been irrelevant.
Teddy looked slower, unable to move in the pocket, and

(26:00):
it seemed like he forgot how to play the position. Well.
He did retire to coach high school football. He was
high school football coach, and then there were some Shenanians
there and he ended up leaving that to come back
to the world of backup football play. The number one
burner account is Collinsworth wearing the Brian Finley knee pads.

(26:20):
A hard pass on my big board, big board, Big board,
Ryan writes and says, I rewrote the starting lyrics of
the autumn win for the Raiders. The autumn win was
a Rader daddy. We used to win and it was fun.
Now we are a tire fire and all Raider fans

(26:41):
heads are upside down. Another damn team just conquered us
and won The Raiders. Yes. Terry in England says, no doubt,
Matthew Stafford is in the pole position for the MVP.
He's playing lights out. The Rams have to be the
most likely NFC Super Bowl representative. It's from Terry forty

(27:04):
nine er fan, Terry checking in Joe the Ghost Hunter.
Terry's in England. Joe the Ghost Hunter says, Moneyball Mallard
for MVP. Well, thank you, there you go. Black Conrad says,
the interview about your quarterback's performance was fantastic. Of course,
uh that, Let's see what else do we have sh

(27:26):
page nin uh Terry in England also ranting and raving
about some kind of list nonsense, which is which is ridiculous.
We are on ex at Ben Mallory the show Rundown.
We'll be coming down momentarily. We are working out some
kinks here, so a few glitches along the way, but

(27:47):
there there is that. We will take some phone calls here.
Let's see you do we have any meany miney mole,
Let's go to Let's go to Kaz. Who's in O
High and so cal California. What's going on? Chas? Welcome? Yes, Cass, Hey,
what's up? Cass.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
I'm from Ohi, California. Cas is like Zach spell backwards.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Okay, congratulations and you're spelling. I'm very proud of you.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Oh, thank you, thank you. Who so uh oh oh
so Safford is I mean, yes he is. But he
will explain his pinky and that will happen before the
playoffs are in the playoffs or something. It always happens
to him. He gets like a little hand injury.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
I'm gonna go with a lower back injury. First first
game of the playoffs for the Rams. He'll suffer a
back injury just before just before halftime, and that'll.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Be hand He'll he'll sprain his ring finger.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
No, he'll get sacked, blindsided, and then he'll be grabbing
his back and withering in pain on the field, withering.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
It is pretty amazing, though, those paths are I'm he
throws them, you're like holy smokes, and Drake May is not.
He's starting to he's getting wobbly.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, he had a very ugly beginning to that game,
the Patriots one, obviously, but it's not a great He
looked like Joe Flacco for that to pick six deal.
What was that?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
FAA wants to be Stafford next year. He's like someone
gonna hire me. I thought, Drake May misses all the
short passes. You've got the little short passes, but he
just he looks too downfield.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
He need to miss all of them. But he's not well,
he doesn't throw it.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
He doesn't throw the short passes.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, the Patriots have a weird offense. It's working. You
can't rip it. It's working. You're not allowed to rip
it because they're winning. You can't take shots of it
because they're successful and all that crap. That's how that works.
I guess he scheduled though.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
I mean they beat the Bengals by not as much
money as I thought.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
They beat him by.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yes, well they didn't cover the spread, which is means
if you don't cover this, great teams cover the spread,
they're not a great team. They didn't cover the spread.
Rams covered the spread. That's a great team. They covered
the spread.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
I was suspicious and I looked at this bet, I'm like,
that should be higher. Well, I guess I should have
gone with my gun and then said they weren't going
to cover it because it looked lower than it should
have been.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
But yeah, if it looks if it looks odd, it
usually is odd. Yeah, you usually like that. Now in Indianapolis,
depends what line you got. But Indianapolis and Kansas City,
the Chiefs were favored by three and a half in
some places. I think originally it was like three. They
won by three, but they didn't want by three and
a half. But people thought the Colt should have been

(30:34):
favored in that game, and they absolutely gagged it that game.
Late We'll talk more about that later, but the Colts
absolutely blewed all right, listen, Cash, you.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Know wh wh why why why why?

Speaker 8 (30:43):
Why?

Speaker 7 (30:43):
Why?

Speaker 8 (30:44):
What?

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Why?

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Well, you were talking about collins Worth and how he
trow like you know, he abides by the book, right,
So I was gonna be like, do you want to
play can we say that on the radio?

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Can we say? Well, if you have to ask, if
you can say it, chances are you don't. You're not
able to say it, right.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
No, it's not that bad.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's like what we'll try. We'll try one and then
we'll probably dump it and then I'll be.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
That Okay, So I'm going to go with this controversial.
I can't listen to Michael jackson songs anymore, gotta.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Dump it, okay, can't Michael Jackson's song.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
All love songs like little Boys and good Beat.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
But I mean that is a false accusation, sir, Well
he is dead also, so you know he's dead. Separate
the art from the artists.

Speaker 9 (31:31):
Yeah, yeah, for real, No, I know, I know, I know,
and you realize though if you judge, I mean, everyone's
got like there's no mother to even mother Teresa probably
did some bad stuff we don't know, but like there's
no one you know's.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I know and I know people when you know Kobe,
when Kobe died, they put it was like it was
like god dying. But you know, Kobe had some he
had some skeletons. But people forgot.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Oh yeah, I don't think he was a very good guy.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, people forget I mean a little bit.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
People are people are people are COMPLI how about this?
People are complicated? How about that? They're complicate. You're gonna
have to You're gonna have to hang up because we're
playing What are we playing here? Oh my god, run away?

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Hang up.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
You's gotta go.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
There, he goes, I'm sorry in the call like that,
but I had to do it. There you go. Who
owns the Michael Jackson Musical Library?

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
That's a good question. Didn't somebody buy it? Did he
sell it? Sony owns the majority of Michael Jackson's music.
You can sell it to Sony when he was alive, though,
I feel like he sold it. I remember hearing something
like he sold the rights to his music.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
In ninety one, Jackson and Sony merged their catalogs to
form Sony ATV, with both owning fifty percent.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Right, that's a long time, long time ago. Is the
Ban Mallor Show? So there was a theme of the week.
You had Aaron Rodgers, who did not play for the
Pittsburgh Steelers. Did not play, but he did make some
headlines the pregame move as he came out there. He

(33:09):
was out before the game doing his thing, and he
was like, well he's gonna plays, He's not gonna play.
And Rogers, nursing a injury to his wrist, did not
end up playing, but moments before being ruled out against
the Bears, Rogers did a lap around Soldier Field in Chicago,

(33:31):
and the quarterback saluting the Bears fans as he said,
you know what, Chicago, your pizza is number one. Yes,
he gave him the bird as he was making his
way around the field and he used his right hand
to flip the bird and was caught on camera. So

(33:54):
we had that my right hand was getting a workout.
So I'm saying that's a bad omen. As the Steelers
ended up losing to Chicago or Rogers in a grumpy mood,
then you had we had Rogers doing that before the game.
Geno Smith more on this later. Gino Smith making his
way off the field after completely gutless one. Is there

(34:17):
any one left not related to Gino Smith that thinks
this guy's any good? Other than maybe Pete Carroll. Oh
my god, holy crap, does he suck? And have I
ever been more right about a quarterback than Gino Smith?
I don't think I have. I nailed that one. And
Gino Wow, he got an extra thirty seven and a

(34:38):
half million per year for two years from the Raiders.
The guy can't play anyway. He was leaving the field,
he gave the Raider fans the sign of your number
one as he was making his way off the field.
Of course, caught on a camera, so hey go a
couple of quarterbacks giving the salute to the fans as
they made their way off the field. Time now though,

(34:59):
for the who am I? Game? This is where we
pretend to be somebody else. Let's we call it the
who am I? Game. Viking quarterback JJ McCarthy is now
ranked eight hundred and fifty first out of eight hundred
and fifty two quarterbacks in EPA per dropback among all
qualified passers. That goes back to the last twenty five years,

(35:22):
and I'm the only player below JJ McCarthy. Who again,
Viking bust. JJ McCarthy ranked eight hundred and fifty first
out of eight hundred and fifty two in EPA and
that's per drop back among qualified passers since the year
two thousand. The only player below McCarthy is me. Who

(35:44):
am I? That is the question, the answer the player
of to day. We'll get to it, we'll do it next.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller
Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific, Bill
Miller and you.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
It is the Ben Maler Show. A reminder to check
out the YouTube channels all of the show multiple YouTube channels.
Get Bennie Versus the Penny a couple of episodes every week,
even more episodes this week with NFL games coming up
next week on Thursday, Thanksgiving Friday, Black Friday, and then

(36:20):
on Sundaysday. A lot of actions. So check out Bennie
Versus the Penny on YouTube Bennie Vspenny. If you want
Ben Malors show, monologues, cameras and lights in here, so
check that out at Ben Mahler's show.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
I love you.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
It's at Ben Mahler's Show. And now back to it all, right,
back to we go? Ill the show has been on
for a while, dummy, I've been here for fifteen minutes already.
But over fifteen minutes. What's wrong with you? Well? Time
now for the play of the day now, not just
any play of the day. It is a sponsored bit,

(37:01):
so it's very important the tire Raq play today. I
believe we're going to Detroit, are we not? Yes? All right,
let's go to Motown. The Lions look like they were
going to lose to the New York Giants. How embarrassing
would that be? They worked their way back into the
game and then ended up going to overtime and some
craziness from the Lions opening possession of overtime, golf up

(37:26):
under center turns gives to Gibbs, gives had to take
the car.

Speaker 8 (37:36):
No touch down, wupant up sixtyns. Shamir gives to the
house the first play from scrimmage and over time you
know you'll know fly he can't fly?

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Whoa my goodness? All right? The Lions guys having orgasms
on the air. There as Jamiir Gibbs going sixty nine
yards off right tackle for the touchdown in overtime, and
that would be the final thirty four to twenty seven.
They're very very unbiased there. And that is the ti
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buying should be time now though, for the who Am I? Game?
This is where we pretend to be somebody else, as
we call it the who Am I? Game? Viking quarterback

(38:42):
JJ McCarthy now ranks eight hundred and fifty first out
of eight hundred and fifty two in EPA per dropback.
That's not good. This is among all qualified passers since
the year two thousand, that's a while ago. The only
player McCarthy is me. The only one below McCarthy is me.

(39:03):
Who am I? That is the question? What is the answer?
And let's see does anyone know the answer? We go
to the great unwashed, the mall of militia, who have
all followed the main account at Ben Mahler. That's at
Ben Mahler and sent answers in Adrian the Pokey Pokey
pokey guy going with hul Cogan Tito Jackson from the

(39:26):
real Martin at the airport in Denver, playing video games?
Who am I has got to be? Blind? Scott from
Andy and lion O Lakes, Minnesota. The King of Rock,
Jed who fled from Scrooge in Northern California. Mike the
Leprechaun guest by the Malor Palooza seat filler. Oh, there's
a good photo of video of Lucky Charms. Mike the Leperkahn.
Who else do we have? Let's see page down EPA

(39:50):
administrator Lee Zelden from ferg Dog, Cliff Stout from Malibu,
Rulin there's a good name. Who else? Sarah Hyland who's
thirty five today? Guests by Late Night drug tester B. J.
Surhoff from mister nice guy. Let's see Femmi got it right?
Bad job by him? Lorena, do you have an answer? Lorena?
Mister Schmie, mister Schmie, No, that isn't correct. The correct

(40:11):
answer none other than JaMarcus Russell. J. J. McCarthy's second
worst to JaMarcus Russell.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
JaMarcus Russell.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
The Vikings have JaMarcus Russell
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