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February 18, 2025 • 39 mins

Ben Maller talks about the Bengals planning to use the non-exclusive franchise tag on Tee Higgins for the second straight year, Justin Jefferson recruiting Myles Garrett to the Vikings, if Justin Fields makes sense for the Jets, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome, it's our numbber what our number one of the
original recipe podcast, The Ben Malers Show. Happy Tuesday to you.
It's the eighteenth day of February. Big day on the
calendar because today is the beginning a franchise tag week

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in the NFL. The Bengals plan to use the non
exclusive franchise tag on wide receiver t Higgins. That'll be
for the second consecutive year. Can you decipher what this means?
We'll attempt to tackle that. Also, star wide receiver Justin
Jefferson is recruiting Brown's defensive end Miles Garrett to the Vikings.

(00:43):
How much juice does this have? And thumbs up or
thumbs down? Would Justin Fields make sense at quarterback for
the Jets. We'll get to all of those topics and
more right now. Buckle up, buckeroo, it's our number one.

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Speaker 1 (02:04):
So our lead this out. We're going to start out
with a topic.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Of conversation that will be near and dear to my
heart and your heart as well for the coming days,
coming weeks. That would be tag You're it, Who's getting tagged,
who's not getting tagged? NFL free agents always an important day,
the tag day. I don't know about you, but in

(02:28):
my house we circle that day. It's very important who's
getting tagged and who's not getting tagged.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh my, the drama.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So there are reports out of Sincinaty that a decision
hasn't been made on the future of T Higgins, many
anticipating T Higgins changing teams.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well, if you didn't see this, maybe not.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
A surprise surprise, not a surprise, say what they are
told the ben Gals. The ben Gals plan to use
the dreaded franchise tag on T Higgins. If that sounds
like a doppelganger of a year ago, that is because
that is exactly what happened last year. That would be

(03:15):
the second straight off season that the Cincinnati football team
has used the franchise tag on T.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Higgins.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Now, the story says that the Higgins camp. Now, you
know you're big when you have a camp. I don't
have a camp. There's no camp. There's no Mallard camp.
I don't have a camp. You know you're important. You
have a camp, you've arrived. If you have a camp.
How many people are in a camp? Could you have
like two people in a camp? Does it have to

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be three? How about how many? Four?

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Five?

Speaker 2 (03:47):
How many people in camp? I'd like to know when
does one become a camp? Because I don't have a camp.
I'd like to have a camp, but I don't have
a camp. How do you get a camp? How did
people know when you have a camp? Do you announce
you have a camp? Do you say, hey, I have
a camp?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Like?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Who determines the camp and what if it's a fake camp,
what happens, then I need answers anyway, So Higgins expects.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
To be tagged, and that would be mean that he.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Would play yet again in theory in Cincinnati and would
not hit the free agent market. Now, the reason today
is an important day. This is our Tuesday show. It's
still late on the West Coast on Monday, but we
live in the world of Tuesday because this is our
Tuesday show. So the tag window officially opens. Is everyone ready?

(04:38):
Four pm Eastern, one o'clock Pacific?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Whoa yeahoo, man alive. Tag Day. It's Tag Day, kids,
It's Tag.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
No one go to school. It's Tag Day now. That
begins at four pm. It'll last until March fourth. Wow,
that's all. That's a big period of time. March fourth
at four pm. So you can do the math on that.
But that's the period of time. So let us discuss
the question the Bengals planning to use the non exclusive,

(05:12):
non exclusive franchise tag on wide receiver T Higgins for
the second consecutive year.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Can you decipher what this actually means? So I've got.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Vegetables, Batman, and Paradise, and we will combine all of
these things together and we'll take a dive off.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
A boat, is what we're going to do. So ay,
I will solve the Rubik's cube.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I have all of the powers invested in me by
the mighty powerful microphones of Fox Sports Radio. And I
will use football jargon. I will keep it simple, stupid.
I will relate to the common man. And here's the
story on T. Higgins and the franchise tag with the bank.

(06:00):
The Bengals are proudly accepting the yellow flag for delay
of game. Delay of game in football jargon, a five
yard penalty, move the chains back. It is a procrastination
situation for the Cincinnati football team. Now what reports say

(06:22):
that they want to extend to Higgins. I'm sure they
do wink wink, nod nod, and they would like to
have him under contract long term. We are skeptics, I
much like the great State of Missouri, may show me
state of mind. It is more likely than not that
there are ulterior motives in play here. That the Bengals

(06:44):
are doing what I did when I was a kid.
My mom would yell at me to finish my food,
and I would play with my vegetables. The Bengals are
playing with their vegetables. They are more than content to
go year to year to year to year with Higgins,
and Cincinnati would love for a team like the Chargers
or the Patriots to step in there and negotiate a

(07:05):
long term contract with T. Higgins and work out a trade. Now,
they're not going to get two first round picks for T. Higgins.
The way this usually works in the past is you
agree to a contractor Higgins finds a team he wants
to play for, and then they drop the tag, and
then Higgins gets traded for less than two first round

(07:25):
picks and there'll be some kind of compensation agreement. They'll
work out some kind of goodie bag that will go
to Cincinnati. Now, as for the player you talk about hardship,
I don't know about you, but man, can we all
say a prayer for T. Higgins because this now guarantees
him If this does happen the way it's said to
happen and his camp things that's going to happen, that

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means T. Higgins will make at the very worst, twenty
six point one million dollars in twenty twenty five on
the franchise tag. So he's buying eggs, he's buying the eggs, and.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
He'll buy eggs for everybody.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
All right, Now to Minnesota, we go home of an
epic Malard meet and greet a couple of years back there,
it was wonderful the Mermaid met so many great supporters
of the show that night. But we go to Minnesota
as where star wide receiver Justin Jefferson is publicly recruiting

(08:28):
a new teammate, which is not his teammate yet, but
he is making the effort to acquire Brown's defensive star
Miles Garrett wants him to come to the Vikings. So
how much juice does that have? How much juice does
that have? So if you look at the glass of juice,
the glass is ep date, it is p date. And

(08:52):
from the Great Batman cartoons, the character known as the Joker,
if you might remember that back in the day, the
Joker would say something along the lines of zero zip, zilch, nada. Yes,
it is nothing more than wishful thinking by Justin Jefferson.
The reason I bring this up is because I was

(09:13):
contacted by more than one die hard Minnesota Viking fans says, hey,
you should talk about this tonight in the show, and.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Clearly not paying attention.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Every other time an athlete says I'm going to public
recruit another athlete, and I roll my eyes in the
back of my head. No different here. All Jefferson does
is win some brownie points with the electorate in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Good for him.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Other than that, it is meaningless, meaningless, meaningless, meaningless. I mean,
I'm sure it's cool if you're Miles Garrett to get
some kind of handwritten note, maybe a FaceTime call from
Justin Jefferson kissing your ass and saying how wonderful you
are and you feel the love and admiration. And that's
great public displays of affection. Wonderful, wonderful, very flattering. It's

(10:02):
very flattering. But there's this in between bizarro world where
some people are convinced that this stuff actually matters.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I am not. I am not.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Ultimately comes down to money, money, money. It's always about money.
That's number one. Number two would be location. Some people
actually say they want to win, but really just want
to be closer to some relative or something like that.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
So there's other variables in play there.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
We know that, And why would you want if you're
Miles Gart you got one spin of the wheel, one shot.
Why would you pick the Minnesota Vikings. That's not the
Vikings are bad. They're not bad. The Vikings are a
playoff team. However, the Vikings also don't have a quarterback.

(10:48):
They didn't have one last year. They won a bunch
of games, but they were exposed when they played down
the stretch against the lines and then Rams and the playoffs.
And now they're going to turn to another question mark
from Sam Darnold. They go to JJ McCarthy, who did
not play it down what was supposed to be his
rookie year, and he takes over center in Minnesota. So
the great Unknown. So if you're Miles Garrett, why would

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you sign up for that the Great Unknown?

Speaker 1 (11:13):
You wouldn't. You'd go to the Lions.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Or the Eagles, or the Chiefs, maybe Buffalo. But who
knows what Cleveland would would and wouldn't do in terms
of the trades. But all the indications are also that
the Cleveland Browns think that Miles Garrett is lying and
they're gonna call his bluff. The Cleveland Browns. There's some

(11:37):
chatter the streets are talking. The Browns seem to think
that Miles Garrett is full of crap much like the
Cleveland Brown locker room, and that if they just throw
money at him, he'll just shut up and agree to
play in Cleveland for the rest of his career. That
they'll offer him some monstrous amount of money. And then
all of a sudden, I say, well, I really want
to go from Cleveland to Canton, and that's really what

(11:59):
I want to do. Stay tuned, developing hot dot dot dot.
Now last word, we go to New York, New York
with Aaron Rogers, done with the Jets, done with the
what's being of the jet? You see that plane flip
over in Toronto? How crazy was that?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Man? That was nuts? That video? Wow.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Anyway, so as far as the actual football Jets, which
are not real Jets and cannot flip over, although they
do fall on their face pretty much every every single
Sunday during the football season. So Aaron Rodgers done with
the Jets. They need a quarterback and they are said
to be I love this not a sleeper sell a
sleeper option for the Jets. And that is justin fields

(12:44):
in free agency. So there's said to be mutual interest
between both parties. So thumbs up, thumbs down, thumbs up
thumbs down would Justin Fields make sense for the j
e ts suck suck, suck Jets.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
So I'm gonna go thumbs down on this. I'm gonna
go thumbs down on this.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
You're talking about a two time loser, now, that makes
him the perfect Jets some would say, But if you're
trying to actually turn this thing around, I would run
the other direction away from Justin Fields. He was a
bust with the Bears, right, he sucked with the Bears.
He was benched the biggest crime of all in Pittsburgh
with a good team, a good team around him, I'm

(13:26):
supposed a winning environment in Pittsburgh and a better coaching
staff with Mike Tomlin, and Justin Fields could not hold
on to the starting job and was benched in favor
of a second rate third like Russell Wilson. That is
a referendum on Justin Fields that Mike Tomlin thought so
little of Justin Fields that he would rather play the

(13:49):
rodding carcass of Russell Wilson than play Justin Fields down
the stretch and on cue, Russell Wilson collapsed, and still
Mike Tomlin did not go back to Justin Fields in
any meaningful way. That tells you all you need to
know about Justin Fields? So why would you go down
that road. It's a paradise. It's a fool's paradise, right,

(14:10):
what's the old line go, you fool me once and
that shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me,
and fool me three times, shame on both of us.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
And that's the NFL in general.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Fields has just not been very good other than spot
moments here and there, and he's been in the NFL
for more than a minute now he has You know,
he's the hot girl at the bar that you keep
buying drinks and she flirts with you and she teases you,
and then she leaves with somebody else. That's That's essentially

(14:40):
what Fields is, although I don't know if he leaves with anybody.
He just kind of goes home by himself. At this point,
Fields is a long shot. If you were betting money,
if I gave you a one thousand dollars of house
money and I said, what is going to happen to
Justin Fields the rest of the way, is he going
to be anything more than just a gadget guy? I
would bet on gadget guy. My money would be on gadget,
I go gadget guy. That would be my money. He's

(15:02):
nothing more than a gadget guy. Like occasionally they'll put
him out, they'll run around a little bit and that's it.
But not a full time starter on a playoff team.
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You just want to make sure people were paying attention,
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nothing better on a bitterly cold Wisconsin knight, then Maller
on the mic. Here we go.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Who else do we have?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Chris int Moines says, When asked how much he wanted
from the Bengals, Higgins said, all the me in China.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
He said, all right, what else do we have?

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Bill rights In says, I think the Bengals can win
the Ohio High School five A tournament with Higgins.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
It's a clown show.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
How does Cincinnati as a sports down have La de
la Cruz and Joe Burrow and they are worthless? Well,
the Bengals did get to the super Bowl a couple
years back, but it's been a minute since that happened.
Og Art Puffin says, back on the dreaded day Shift,
I start my new job tomorrow. There's my last contribution

(19:52):
back to podcast. Got to hit the Hey now there
you go. It's from og Art Puffin. Another one bites
the dust, Another one bites the dust. I'm sick and
tired of losing people. You suck to the damp day shift.
Can't stand it, you guys sell out, you go to

(20:13):
the damp day shift, stay loyal, shorten your lives, work
overnight like us. Come on, what's wrong with you? Shame
on you? What else you have?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Page down?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
James Bond. I don't think that's the real James One.
It says big Ben you have a camp now. Oh
he made me a sign. I have a sign that
I have.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
A camp Camp Ben.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh no, it's camp big Ben Camp Big Ben there not?
Just can't Ben? What else you have, page down, mister
Luciana writes in says, listening while doing the night shift.
By the way, great podcast over the weekend. Thank you,
mister Luciano. Appreciate that nine out of ten from Jason
in CANNESAH Cities. Nine out of ten Mallon monologue. T
Higgins might not seem important to the Bengals, but maybe

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he is. Remember how much the Bengals missed Joe Mixon.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Last year in the running game. What else we have?
Page Dan?

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Bobby and Florida says, you're right, Ben, you don't have
a camp. It's more like a trailer park.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
How dare you? Bobby?

Speaker 2 (21:15):
And I'm looking at your photo, Bobby, and you look
like you belong in a trailer park.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
So I think you're there. I think you're part of
that in the trailer park.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Any we'll go to the phones today some calls you
want to send a message in on the X machine
at Ben Malor. Let's go to the phones and we'll
say hello to Eeny Meenie miney mo. Let's start out
with Andre. The only person that liked the NBA All
Star Game other than Adam Silver is Andre.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Hello, Andre, welcome.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
How you doing, Ben, Thanks for taking a call.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
I appreciated it.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Will It's also appreciated the All Star game because we
had a competition, we had effort. Was it, you know,
can't amount to the Maggie Johnson, Isaiah Tom miss Austin
eighties All Star Games? No, but it was night and
day different than the layup lines that we had.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
And Willis, look at that, Willie.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
We heard wells well les well less, Wells well well Lees.
Oh man, this is a big you know, it's a
big night when Willis is interacting.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Oh look at that another bark game, man, Willis, look
at this.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Your dog is alive and well we're hearing from Willis?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Can you put Willis on right now? Can I add?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Hey, Willis, what do you think of Andrea's phone calls
to the show?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Willis? Please comment? Willis supported?

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Wow, I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Oh man, this is a whole new bid on. I mean,
we're opening up a whole new world. Andre. We can
interview you and oh man, Willis.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
Well as we are now, I don't know, oh.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Man, the dog wants to be on the air. Willis
wants to be on the show.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Hungry you know, like what we saw okay yesterday in
the All Star Game, but bet we have to get
over to the point you're talking about the Cleveland Browns
and the situation over there. Willis is also excited about
the fact that the Browns they're not going to be
embarrassed again. They're not going to let Miles Garrett walk
out that door. Okay in terms of they're not going
to be the stupid money at the table because again

(23:22):
with the creepy quarterback, then all right, they've proven, you know,
you good money after bad. So with the Cleveland Browns,
I know the folks in Minnesota, you know, talk in
and you know, doing the recruitment bid and things of
that there nature. But myself and also Willis, where of
the mindset Bomy wants. Shame on you, Boomy twice, shame
on me. The Cleveland Browns are you got to keep
Miles there at home, all right, and you got to

(23:43):
keep what you have going on together.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, but if he doesn't want to be there, then
you don't want someone on your employment roster who doesn't
want to be there, don't. I mean, as Mike the
Great Mike Tomlin said, I want volunteers, not hostages.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Indeed, indeed.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
Yeah, but you sign a contract, Ben, in the NFL
does this more so in another league, they don't do
this whole player empowerment stuff. All right, to put the
franchise tag on you, to go through a number of
different iterations. Okay, but Cleveland, all right, keep miles in town.
And in conclusion, I know we got a lot of callers.
All right, look at the situation with the Cleveland excuse mccavaliers.
Darius Garland was ready to race quit last year. They're

(24:22):
bringing Kenny Atkinson capable leadership and now everybody's buddy, buddy.
They're winning the skills competition. They're all stars and everything
is good. So take a note from your partner investment organization, Cleveland, Brown,
keep your talent happy, keep them in town, make the
deal it has to be made, and don't let it
all go to pieces as you do with that crazy
Deshaun Watson court contract. Ben, thanks taking.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
The time for me.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
Let's see it, Willis, you gotta take a bye it
will okay?

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah? Now, oh and I was quiet man. All right,
Well that was a big effort. That was a major
moment in the life of.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Abye. Say bye bye, Willis, Say bye bye, Willis, Bye bye.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
Now here's a lot.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Now he's now he's being a hard Oh okay, thank you, No,
there he is all right. There's Andre and his dog Willis.
They'll be appearing at a county fair near you. So
I used to in the early days, and I don't
know if there's anyone listening now. That was with me
in the early days of Fox Sports Radio. But they
I had a guy call up who had his dog,

(25:21):
Auto the drinking Dog, and Auto the Drinking Dog would
pick games in the NFL on the weekends.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
It was great. It was a great bit and he
was good at it. No, he sucked at it.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
But it was a good bit because it was you know,
you could hear the dog barking and drink and drinking,
and you know, it was fun.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
It was a fun bit. Did he prefer vodka or whiskey?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
That was beer because Otto the drinking dog and his
master is his owner, whatever you call it, it was
also drinking beer.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
So it was a it was a bonding, you know,
the man dog bond of the RAINA there's a bond
of men.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yes, you drink late it night and you have your
dog drink ferg dog rights and says, I am calling
Shenanigans on Andrea's dog. All the barks sounded exactly the same.
That was not a dog, That was a dog soundboard, dundundun.

(26:18):
Is it possible that that was Is it possible that
ferg dog's onto somebody? Do we need to open up
an investigation here, the malor investigative arm to get to
the bottom of that, whether or not there was some
kind of nonsense going on there between Andre and his
dogt it sounded different to me. Did that sound the
same on the radio? I don't know, but don't get

(26:39):
to the bottom of that. Well, we'll try to get
to the bottom of this as well. The NFL said
to have a new bidder for Sunday Sunday. Sunday Sunday.
The folks over there at Netflix they would like their

(26:59):
own the NFL Sunday TV package.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Wow. Yes, they want a piece of the pie.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
And according to a big executive there, the chief content officer.
How does one become the chief content officer? I'd like
that title. Chief content officer.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
You got to know your content, ben, I guess so.
I don't know good content. That's why I'm doing overnights.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
But anyway, Netflix, they're interested in bidding on the NFL's
Sunday afternoon games that currently reside on CBS and Fox.
Fox has had the NFC package from CBS since ninety four.
CBS says had the AFC since nineteen ninety eight. That's

(27:42):
been a minute. That's been a minute. And both broadcast
deals run through twenty thirty three. So this is a
bit premature. However, the reason I'm bringing this up right
now is the NFL has the option. We are told
to circumvent those agreements, and they can end those contracts

(28:02):
early and are expected to actually opt out of those
contracts early in twenty twenty nine, which seems like it
should be very far away, but is only four years away.
It seems like twenty twenty nine should be very far
into the future, but it's not. It's twenty twenty five.
And so if you do the malord math on that,

(28:24):
and they want to get that Netflix money, but that
would end and eventually it's going to end, I mean know,
it's going to end the games being on over the
air televisions. Well no, no, no, no, no, it doesn't matter
earlymore because of the Internet and all that. Well, it
still matters for many of the people listen to this show.
I know Dick and Dayton is completely just can't figure out.

(28:45):
He's draggled.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
I'm sorry, frazzled trying to figure out where these games are.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
But yes, you cannot stand when people say that just
because you watch it on a streaming service does not
mean other people don't. Just because you listen to music
on iTunes doesn't mean people don't listen to radio stuff exactly.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
So it's not just you. Well, there is a bias
of people that think that.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
It's like people that do only podcasts think that everyone
only listens to podcasts, even though there's still many more
people listening to terrestrial radio than podcasts in the world
today and things like that.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
But people, they have agendas and winning.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
But it's an issue too because you think about Netflix
and then well, if you're gonna go to Netflix and
sell games, why not just have all the games on
the apps? But then you're just gonna promote piracy. Now,
you should never watch games.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Illegally the rain, it's wrong. You should never know that.
I'm not going to jail for watching a game wrong.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
However, I do know that if you keep Nickel and
diming people. I know, like a baseball I hear all
the times in baseball season. If you want to watch
your team, if you're a fan of like the Yankees
and the Dodge, one of these good teams, and they
got a game on Apple TV, there's a game on
the Peacock. There's a game over here, there, everywhere, and
so you you end up having to buy like five

(29:59):
or six streaming services to watch every single game.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
And it's like at some point you're just like, screw that.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I'm not going to do that. So you either miss
the games or you go to the dark web and
you snoop around the dark one buy a liver, but
well you can buy that eyeball.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
You can buy an eye maybe because you have the eye.
You know that eye the sign of the Illuminati. Yeah,
I want to right in the middle, Yeah, the third
eye right there.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
All right, let's see, let's go do what do we have?
Let's go to Dylan. Dylan is in Nashville, the Music City.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
What's going on? Dylan? Welcome?

Speaker 6 (30:36):
Hey, Ben, thanks for saking mich call Hey. Speaking of livers, Uh,
you don't want to buy mine? Because I'm a titan, Sam.
Then it's rough and uh, you know, I used to
work to overnights and I'm finally getting a listen to
your show because i'm jobless. Not I'm working on it.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
But hey, now when you when you're jobless, Now, remember
what we do. We say in radio when you're on,
we say we're on the We're on the beach.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
We're on the beach. That's a term. You're on the beach.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
Hey, I got a lot of stay up somewhere, but.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Hey, you might you might want to go and take a
shower and clean that out.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
You know that is true. That is true, big Ben.
But so as a Titan Sand and listen, dude, it's
it's tough out here. I'm born and raise in Nashville.
It's a great city. I love it here. But so
I've been hearing the giants are trying to like maybe
get up to one and get there a third for

(31:32):
like what is it a couple couple thirds or something
like that. But I don't know, Ben, as a Titan Sin,
what what the hell? What are we going to do here?
I just want your take on that.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, well I would I would trade down, That's what
I would do. I'm skeptical about every one of these
players in the dragon.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
So what I would do is I'd bring.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Up the maybe Travis Hunner, I.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Mean, Travis Huner's fine. I mean, is Travis hunter going
to be a top five, top ten receiver?

Speaker 6 (31:59):
Well you gotta play. See, I don't like this whole corner.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
No, I know, I know, I don't know if you
can say that, But listen, I agree that you. I
would rather have him as a two way player and
all that stuff. But you look at that the draft
value trade chart which Jimmy Johnson came up with back.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
Yeah, how is that?

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Like?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
That is that is the That is the bible. You
can find it online. It's a it's a classic. I
don't know if it's been altered, but Jimmy Johnson's model
is still used. As of a couple of years ago,
it's still it's still used. For example, like the the
Tennessee pick is worth three thousand points according to the
Jimmy Johnson model.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
That thing, Yes, do people still really do that? Like there,
it's worth of bazillion picks for a three to two round, Like.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty it's pretty hard, like the giant,
So it wouldn't actually be that big because the Tennessee
pick is worth three thousand.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
The Giants pick at number three is worth twenty two
hundred four.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
I mean you got you, I mean you got cam
Ward should there, you got the tackler, the guy from
Penn State, and you got Hunter like and who you
got four guys? Who else is there?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Like, who's the Well?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
I'm sure there'll be other players that turn out to
be good, but we don't really know who they are.
They're not they're not being promoted yet. And most of
the draft is about who's getting promoted the most.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
That's who gets drafted.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yes, yes, okay, so, yes, I will answer anything, go ahead,
and Dylan please okay?

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Ben?

Speaker 6 (33:30):
Okay? Ben? So who's the fifth guy? So we got
the combine in the underwear Olympics. You got a bunch
of guys running around like skinny jeans and like tank
tops and you know, doing like cartwheels and all that.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yes, so who, like it'll be some offensive lineman or
defensive tackle. We don't we don't know, you know, somebody
like Will Campbell of l s U or somebody like that.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
We need everything we need. Oh my god, I.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Know that's why you trade down hard.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, I gotta I gotta go go tell your shower
you got save up your key, sir, I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Some hot draft talk right there. Let me tell you
that's a preview of coming attractions. If you thought that
was good talk radio, buckle up, buckeroo.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
NFL Draft will be here before you.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Know it, oh man, tick talk ticked down. We are
sixty five days away.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
From the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
The Tennessee Titans are on the clock, and for the
first time in a gazillion years, every single team in
the NFL Draft twenty twenty five has their pick meeting.
There have been no first round draft picks traded. None.
Everyone that's supposed to pick all thirty two teams have

(34:47):
their first round pick, which almost never happens. Usually the
Rams are the ones that trade every pick and that's it.
They're gone. The highest pick that has been traded is
picked thirty nine, which is part of the trade Chicago.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
And Carolina made for the number one pick.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
The Bears have the thirty ninth pick, which is from
the Carolina Panthers, so that's an early second round pick,
but that's the highest pick.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Notp Bears.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
They'll screw that up, They'll draft somebody who will not
play that well for them. It's normally how that goes.
It is the Ben Mahler Show. Time now for the
who am I?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Game? And here it is.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
The Chicago Bears have never had a four thousand yard passer,
The Jets last had one with Joe Namath in nineteen
sixty seven, and I'm the last Cleveland Browns quarterback to
throw for four thousand yards in a season.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Who Am I? The answer? We'll get to it and
we will do it next.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
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Speaker 1 (36:32):
And now back to Benny Blowhard. All right, Bill, enough
of that time, Now for the who am I?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Game? Here it is the Chicago Bears have never had
ever a four thousand yard passer. The Jets last had one.
Last had one in nineteen sixty seven with Joe Namath.
Who in the last Cleveland Round quarterback to throw for
four thousand yards in a season?

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Is me?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Uh? Who am I? That's the question? Fer Dog going
with Izy as the answer. Vinny Testa Verdi.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
From King Rory Yo Gabba Gabba from Milkman, Mike in Colorado,
Doctor Dre He's sixty today.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
How about that? It's also Michael Jordan's birthday. Who else
do we have? The count?

Speaker 2 (37:19):
John Montefusco from Mister Nice Guy, The Rated R Superstar
Edge from our buddy Rob in Vegas, Rob the goat
Man going with Justin in Cincinnati. Andy and Lina Lake
says you are Dick from Dayton That that is the answer.
I forty Ian says the Cleveland Round quarterback shirt is

(37:42):
the answer. Watching this guy is not listed on that shirt.
There's a fun fact. Stubby clap from Donkey Sausage. Mouth
Wash Mike guessed by Shane in de Moine, our buddy
from Vegas. The great mouth wash Mike. The guy showed
up to the Malar meet and greet and he was
intoxicated from drinking yellow mouthwash, which I didn't even know

(38:05):
they still made. That's the original recipe mouthwash. I always
thought they they only had the green and they had
the blue. I didn't realize they had had that still
mil Yes a milt plum guess by Eke and Roseville, Minnesota.
Spaccoli is up with us in Chapel Hill, North Carolina,
home of Bill Belichick these days, he says, Dolphins and

(38:26):
Oilers legend.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Dan Pastorini is the way to go.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Kathy in Madison checks in with Roger Daltrey as her answer.
Brandon Whedon from Timothy. That's his selection, mister Luciano says.
Andrew Tait is the selection. Former Braves dual threat Rick
Camp from Bay City. Tony carrot Top the iconic carrot top.

(38:52):
What a great Cleveland brown carrot top was guest by Amy.
Who else do we have? Willis the ai automated Mutt
from Terry in England, Snaggle Puss guessed by Slim Tim
Bernie Cozar Dick and Dayton's quarterback from Robin, Minnesota, Polly
d paly.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
D got it right. Bad job by him. All right, Lorraine,
do you have an answer? Lorraine?

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yes, the one and only Puss and Boots himself. Antonio
bandettis oh Man.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
That was when the Browns played in Latin America. They
hired him as the quarterback for a couple of games. No,
that is incorrect. Correct answer. We gotta go all the
way back forty five years ago to nineteen eighty.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Brian Sipe Brian site.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
The last Cleveland Brown's four thousand yards Faster. Another team
with a long gap, the Titans slash Oilers with Warren Moon.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
In nineteen ninety one. It's been a minute since then
as well.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Everyone else has done it more recently Bears, Jets, Browns
and Titans
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