July 25, 2025 • 41 mins
Ben Maller gives a tribute to Hulkamania as Hulk Hogan passes away at the age of 71, what the secret ingredient was that made Hogan so special, how much power Hulk Hogan had over kids in those early days, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh brother, what are you gonna do when Hulclemedia comes
for you? Welcome in. It's our number one, our number
one of the original Recipe podcast. A happy Friday to you.
It is the twenty fifth day of the month of
July and we are hanging out here. Reminder, the Fifth
Hour podcast will be available later today and we'll have
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the story of Bye Bye Brother, the Marlborough Man and
the Malard Meatball only available on the Fifth Hour podcast,
and some other stuff as well. Some other stuff, but
our one, the rare and appropriate homage, the eulogy to
the late Great hault Cogan. If you're around my age,
this is someone that you grew up with and someone
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that was a big part of your childhood and has
crossed the mortal coil and left this world going over
the pearly gates. So what are you going to remember
about the life of the iconic wrestler hal Cogan? What
was the secret ingredient that made hal Cogan special for
so many kids? And how much power did the Hulk
have over the children in those early days when he
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was beloved the babyface I We'll go over all of
that right now, give it up for our number one
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gonna go off the reservation for a minute. Our lead
this hour is not the normal. Some douchebag in the
NFL got hurt or complained or Jerry Jones farted, and
we need to break it down. No, no, no, no, no no.
We're gonna actually do something we very rarely do. And
since I have editorial control, I have chosen this to
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be the story that caught my attention the most, that
I was most interested in talking about, And so as
long as I have the bully pulpit, I can make
these decisions. And we're gonna start with a wrestling story.
I think you know by now, I'm assume you've heard.
It's really the biggest story I believe in sports, and
I assume you've figured it out. But the wrestling world
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and the sporting world mourning the death of a legend
that transcended what was at that time the WWF now
the WWE. Hulk Hogan is dead. Died in Florida cardiac
arrest early in the morning hours on Thursday. I was
seventy one years old and was born Terry Bulla, and
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he joined the WWF in the early nineteen eighties and
within a couple of years had become the biggest personality
and really put that operation on the map and made
a lot of people a lot of money in those
days and even to this day, the day that Hulkgan
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left the mortal coil that we all share here, the
revenues and the impact of the wwe are just next level.
So let us discuss the question what are you going
to remember about the life of Hulk Hogan as we
knew him? So my thoughts on this. I got shag Carpet,
(04:31):
Prince Charming, and bulletproof, and we will combine all of
these things together and we are gonna make the Gobba Ghoul.
We're gonna make the gobagol so A. The main reason
I'm starting with this is it hits close to home, right,
A chunk of my childhood as growing up and not
knowing much about anything, like we all start out, A
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bunch of my childhood is gone. The man with the
twenty four inch pythons and the Fu Manchu mustache and
the whole thing just gone. That's it, see you later.
Now what do I remember? What do I really remember?
I'm not gonna sit here and there I go on
with all his scandals, lawsuits, the reality show, all that. Listen,
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there's no question Haul Cogan was a flawed man, There's
no doubt about it. But what I'm going to remember
is my youth. Hulkomedia right flashing back. I was a kid,
fat kid. Haul Cogan burst onto the consciousness of America
as I was growing up, and I saw it through
my eyes, the eyes of a child. It was awesome.
(05:39):
It's fired off man, haul Coke. Impact that he has
was next level on the culture in the nineteen eighties.
This was a guy that stood in my head. This
is how fed up I was as a kid. I
don't know if you like me. I don't know how
old you are. Maybe you're younger than me and you think, well,
you're just a boom or what are you doing? But
(06:01):
as a child, in my head, like Hulk Hogan was
toe to toe, belly to belly with the cartoon heroes
that we all worship. Like he was he man, you
captain America. Hulk Hogan was them, except he was real.
You said, no, he was, You're just a loser. But
we'll try telling that to ten year old Fat Benny,
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who was sitting with his legs crossed on some shag
carpet my parents bought years earlier, in front of those
giant televisions that was the size of a Toyota and
watching Hulk Cogan become a national treasure. And I don't
do the whole Mount Rushmore thing. Other people do that.
I'm not going to do that, but in my head,
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and that could be completely wrong about this, what do
I know, But in my head, if I think back
to that era in my youth, the biggest names in
sports in the nineteen eighties, that's Joe Montana with the
forty nine ers, Magic John with the Lakers. In boxing,
it was Mike Tyson, and it was Hulk Hogan, like
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all of them, larger than life. Of course, those other
guys played real sports. Hulk was not about that. He
was a spectacle. It was the theme music, the real
American and all that. We played some of that and
just the whole thing, the national anthem on Saturday mornings,
and that was the Stone Age man. I grew up
in the Stone Age. There was no Internet and all that.
(07:26):
You'd watch the cartoons, which was that's a whole different
sub story about how this The cartoons on a Saturday
morning reginally were you were forced to put those on
and they really just became vehicles to sell Sugar Cereal
the kids. But anyway, you had the big, big hit.
You had Transformers, g I Joe, and then boom right
(07:47):
into w WF Superstars with my original broadcast hero Mean
Gene Okerland, who stood there in a tuxedo talking to giants,
literal giants like Andre the Giant. It was absurd as
a kid, it was glorious, It was wonderful. I want
to give a little taste here, so we have a
little clip here. This is Mean Gene Oakland, hul Cogan
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and Macho Man Randy Savage. They're all gone now, they're
all dead. But listen to this. This is this is
what it was like watching this as a kid. Tigers
Oh Comania, two megap powers, mean It Air the Mine,
Oul Cogan, what has happened?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, you know me, Geane, we really don't know what
we're dealing with here, man, And I'm just kind of
a little worried about walking up here because we just
might pull the whole planet up. You know, everybody knows
that whole Comania is the strongest force.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
In this universe.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
But when I get that ring and I saw what
the madness was all about, I realized there was a
whole other universe out there, a whole nother frontier and
the power of the madness in the media.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Just boom on, twenty four inch guns out. You mean
to tell me there is another solar system.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Matos we student a state of shack right now.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
All right, went on. I'm not going to sit here
and tell you they were all doing coke. But you know,
I didn't think that at the time, but looking back,
they probably were. But page two here, what was the
secret ingredient as we say goodbye and pour one out
for Haul Cogan? What was the thing that made him
so special in the wrestling game? Well, the obvious thing
that you don't need me to tell you. This guy
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was one of the great showmen, charismatic, He had this
magnetic personality, great stage presence. Vince McMahon and his dad
cooked up the formula which had been around for a
while in professional wrestling, was the WWF at the time,
and it was the age old battle between the good
and the bad, right, the good and the bad and
all that, and the rivalries between what they call in
(09:40):
that business the baby faces versus the heels. That is
responsible that sells the tickets right, gets people intrigued and
all that, but nobody did it better than the Hulkster,
and he was able to blur the lines between fiction
and reality. Again, as a kid, I'm sure there were
adulta whose is the dumbest thing in the world, But
as a kid, I was like, this was Prince Charming, mesmerizing, captivating,
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and just how successful was it? The number that is
mind blowing. And I know everything's gotten shopped up and
taking apart in pieces like a chop shop for our attention.
But going back at WrestleMania I think it was the
famous WrestleMania three in the early eighties. There were thirty
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three million people that watched hul Cogan versus andre the Giant.
Thirty three million. And I put that in context. Our
friend in Fox Sports Radio's form A Morning host and
FSR alumni member Klay Travis pointed out that that is
more people that watch. More people watch that than the
World Series, the NBA Finals, and the Stanley Cup Final
(10:45):
combined this year. If you combined all of those events,
there were more people watching a staged wrestling match between
Hull Cogan and Andrea the Giant. And you know, look,
I get it now, you know we know now it's scripted,
but back then, as a naive kid, I didn't think
about it, didn't really care, didn't know. It was just magical.
(11:08):
You'd see Hulk Hogan there sweating like he was, you know,
dying under the lights, dripping water, hulking up if you will,
and obviously on steroids that came out later. They were
all on steroids, it seemed. And then you know, shaking
the the righteous fury as as he could in those
early days and pointing the finger of doom and all that.
(11:29):
And you know some loser villain guy, you know, the
iron chic who literally, I think literally really like hates
Hulk Ogan. It is, you know, the end of the
life Big John stud Rowdy Roddy Piper. Now, if you're
if you're of a certain age, these are massive names.
If you're also of a younger age, you're thinking, well,
this is the worst monologue ever. Oh my god, this
(11:50):
is terrible. But just let me just let me finish this, okay.
So then Hulk had the leg drop the signature move,
you know, one, two, three, the crowd goes wild, the
music HiT's he's flexing the biceps there, and he could
solve all the world's problems all in that moment, and
Haulkogin did he get rich? Well, everything's relative, right. He
(12:13):
made a lot of money, made a lot of money.
He also lived very interesting life away from the ring,
involving you know, sex, drugs, rock and roll, all that,
and you know, bad decisions and things and so spanning
his his career. Based on a minutes long Mallar investigation.
(12:34):
Starting in the nineteen eighties, when hulk Amania took off,
it's estimated hul Cogan made one hundred and fifty to
two hundred million dollars before taxes, before paying off spouses
and other poor decisions that he made. And remember, money
was worth more in the eighties. It was worth more
in the nineties than it is today. Just like you know,
(12:56):
if we get to twenty fifty, money today is going
to be worth more than it was is then. Now
the last word here, So how much power power, power
power did Hulkgan have over kids in those early days?
And I can speak of this because I was a kid,
so we all bought it right in my head, every
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kid bought in completely. He was the master salesman. You
talk about product placement, the hulk Mania T shirts the
action figures all kinds of crap that's in landfills right now.
And I was a kid that got fat on WWFA
these ice cream bars that I got, and I was
convinced that I had to get these. I remember pestering
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my dear old mom if she rest in peace, I
had to get my hands on those WWF ice cream bars.
And I couldn't stop eating them. I thought they were
the greatest right and the whole thing right. And now
I was more of a mean gene Oakland guy, but
I couldn't wear a tuxiedo. I remember me and my
older brother we went to the Anaheim Convention Center, which
is an absolute shole, but it was wrestling there, and
(14:01):
we stayed after to see the wrestlers walk out to
their to their car. You know, there was like a
bus thing take them to the hotel. And I remember
seeing these guys and they were wearing like these uh
soprano you know, if you remember the old jumpsuits they
would wear back in those days. And so I'd see
these them, Oh man, they're out, they're out of uniform
and all that. I was like wow. But so I
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got fat on the WWF ice cream bars. I blame
Hulk Cogan. But then in my head, I ate the
vitamins and and so I figured, like, if just you
eat the Hulk Hogan endorsed vitamins, and that would make
you bulletproof in my head as a kid, right, I mean,
Hulk told me, he said, to all my little Hulk maniacs,
(14:43):
say your prayers, take your vitamins, and you will never
go wrong. So I thought, Okay, I could eat the
ice cream bars, I'll get fat, but then I'll take
the vitamins. I'll be fine. And I'm telling you, there
were a lot of us who did just that, right
because we believed, you know, this was bigger than just
wrestling and all that and U and those are the
things I'll remember. And again, the headlines are there. And
(15:03):
obviously as a cynical, jaded, middle aged talk show host,
I've seen all the controversies. The Gocker thing, he took
down Gocker, the bubble, the love sponge, you know, stooping
his wife, the holy I mean, listen, that's all out there.
You can get that. You can do that if you want.
You know that reality stuff that came later in my life.
But I choose to remember the day that hall Cogan died.
(15:26):
I chose to remember the simpler time being fat little
Benny watching Mean Jean introduced hall Cogan hyping up some event.
Hey ww if coming to the you know whatever arena,
you know, coming to arena near you, you know, and
not the jaded, middle aged gas bag that I've become,
but more of the wide eyed Benny bright side, ice
cream all over my hands, chocolate, the whole thing, because
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that was the time. You know, everything's like this when
you're a kid, right, the world just feels amazing. Everything's
ahead of you and you feel like you could body
slam anything U And that was Haul Cogan. So anyway,
rest in peace, hal Cogan. It is the hour of
Haul Coogan. By the way, if you want to share
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they launched the network, and they had all these big
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TV people that were here from Fox Television that we're
working on the radio stuff, and we weren't on anywhere.
We were getting killed.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
At that time, we were like the fourth biggest sports network.
Nobody knew who we were. The whole thing right now,
this place is a monster, but back then it was.
But the show that had the most pull was a
It was like a Sunday night wrestling show, and that
had the most buzz was a wrestling show, and everyone
(17:02):
else was like, I couldn't believe it. What is going on?
Why is a wrestling show getting the most attention? Anyway,
that show didn't last that long, but it did have
a lot of attention in the early days. It is
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of that, feel free to chime in on this. Brother, Yeah,
come on Brother eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
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There are so many amazing stories that I just want
to get these out because we'll forget about it. I mean,
you know, people, we move on, you know, we got
to live our lives. The Hulks checked out and we
move on with our lives, and so a lot of
these stories will be lost in time. But Hulk Hogan
started something that is still alive and well today. He
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did it with a five hundred dollars bribe that since
that bribe, he was told he couldn't do something, he
used a five hundred dollars bribe, and to this day
it is still a staple of sports in America, and
really not just America but all over the place. But
what is it, I'll tell you. We'll get to that
and we will do it next.
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Back to it, back to it and uh a few people,
what are you doing the whole COVID thing? Blind Scott's update, Well,
he's upset. Blind Scott's upset. Then that's good. There's a
couple other douches that are that are angry, but other
than that, pretty good. There you go. Truck Stop Fungus says,
no stories from the road until September. The old lady
(20:51):
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been sidelined until football season begins. To you, younger folks,
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Rod the ambassador of Bakersfield, one of the great mallord
meet and greets we ever did. We went to Bakersfield,
and I don't want to say it was hot, and
(21:13):
I'm not going to embellish how hot it was that night.
I think the estimate was it was two hundred and
seventeen degrees in Bakersfield that night. But we had a
great time. Rod hosted us. He says, great monologue. Ben
haul Cogan was the best. I still think he regretted
not taking the grill deal that George Foreman pedal. Yeah,
there are conflicting reports about that. There's you know, Terry
(21:36):
Bolea or hul Cogan had said that he was offered
the Foreman grill and he did not take it, and
then George Foreman went on and made a gazillion dollars
doing that. Scrooge in Northern California Rights since says it's
being gen Z. I actually grew up watching hal Cogan.
He was one of my favorite wrestlers. I also enjoyed
(21:56):
some of his movies growing up. Rest in Peace to
a legend. Late Night Drug Tester also says though he
talked about the George Foreman grill story as another one.
Nature Boy writes in answering the call a little while,
he says, for some reason, after watching Hulk wrestle, it
seemed like fun stuffing underwear in the mouth of my
(22:18):
friend's little brother. Wow, all right, yeah, one of of
the famous stories. My my parents very very rarely went out.
They didn't go out much, you know whatever. They stayed
at home because they had a bunch of kids. And
at one point they thought, hey, I got two brothers.
I'm in the middle. I got an older brother, younger brother,
(22:38):
so we have the two older kids watch the younger brother.
So we were all watching wrestling while they were out
at their nice dinner, you know, grown up dinner. And
I'll never forget. We decided it would be a good
idea to have my younger brother fly off the top
of the sofa like the top ring top belt at
the wrestling ring. And sure enough, he broke his arm,
(23:01):
and my mom did not ever let us watch him again.
That was one and done. That was it, one and done. Overnight,
Joe writes and says, big man, remember when I was
in college, He says, I remember that Hulk finally came
to my hometown in Rochester, New York. I never heard
the war memorial that loud. That's an iconic venue. Rest
(23:21):
in peace, Hulk. Also, he says Rochester's own Chuck Mangione,
who also passed away at age eighty six, sad night
in my hometown, says Overnight, Joe, there you go. Tacoma,
Drew writes and says, Ben, thank you for the stroll
through my youth. Me and my buddy swore wrestling was real.
So we would have ladder matches in my friend's basement
(23:43):
and would literally kick the crap out of each other. Yeah,
I'm right there, man, that was great. I have fond
memories of wrestling and copying moves and it was glorious. Tacoma,
Drew says eight plus plus. Brendan writes and says, I
remember watching Paul Cogan later in his career. Yeah, he
went to I didn't keep watching, like my memories are.
(24:07):
I got to maybe the early nineties with wrestling, and
then I moved on and went out and started working
and that was that was that. But I didn't really
watch him when he became a heel. But Brandon says,
I remember watching Hogan later in his career. The good
things are that he made the WWE into what it
is today. Yes, he has his character flaws. There you go.
(24:31):
I won't judge him, because who doesn't, he says. King
Rory right soon says like you, I don't want to
speak ill of the dead. As a wrestling fan, he
was larger than the life and change in the industry
forever rest in piece. The grill sergeanty you know, it's
a big night if the grill sergeants listening, He says.
I used to watch WWF on Mondays with my dad
back in the eighties during the height of hulkomany. Every
(24:53):
time Hulk wrestled a heel and said heel would cheat
and the ref I wouldn't see it. Yeah, that was
always a classic. And then somebody's going, oh no, they
don't see it. I don't understand. The ref would always
play dumb, you know, as part of the character. So
my old man would blow a gasket. Great memories, so
the grill sergeant. Yeah, looking back now, as an adult,
(25:15):
it's like, this is some of the most ridiculous stuff
in the world. But as a kid, you're like, oh
my god, why does the ref not see that. That's cheating.
I don't understand. Just Josh and Cincinnati says. I remember
going to see my first WWF event as a kid,
and Bobby the brain Heenan was carrying a briefcase with
ten thousand dollars for anyone who could pick up Big
(25:37):
John stud and slam him. Needless to say, the Holkster
collected the money that night. All right, let's go to
the phones, and who do we have this page? Dan,
Let's go to Let's go to Landon. Who's in Washington?
Up first? It is the Ben Mahlers show, the Hour
of Hulk of Mania as he died this week, and
we're paying our homage. What's going on? Land Welcome? How
(26:01):
you doing brother? I took my vitamin salk. I did
take my vitamins.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Well that's good. So I generally only call in when
you when you start your monologue with the Bengals, But
you know what you said, hit me in the fields,
you know, and brought me back to my childhood. I
didn't really start watching wrestling until about the nineties as well,
because I was born in eighty seven, right, Oh, so
(26:29):
so I got to see the heel part of whole
Comania when it was w CW Monday Night, Nitro and
raw Attitude Area going at each other, right, and all
the all the movies growing up, I mean, even having
the I never had the pillow of Hulk Mania, but
I always wanted one because I had a full sized
(26:50):
Ninja turtle and what I would do is I would
wrestle with him on my bed. And you know, I
was lucky enough to have one of those plastic Ferrari
car beds and it had a spoiler on it. Jump
off of that like it was the top top rope.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Dude, you were you were spoiled Land and you had
a you had a car bed as a kid. Come on, man,
I really, dude, your parents spoiled you? Dude, you did?
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
What happened? Yeah, Larina Loraina has a good point, Land
and what happened to that? Do you have kids now
as an adult.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Or because that's why I have I have I have
three daughters.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Okay, So I don't know our daughters in the car
beds or not. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
I mean I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
But car bed there was a there was a friend
of my dad's who had had a son and he
had turned four and I was probably I don't know
ten at the time, and he was like, it's time
for you to get a new bed, and it's time
for some other young kid to enjoy that bed.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
And I was like, oh, you know, yeah, yeah, well
you probably outgrow it, right, you eventually you get too
big for the car bed. But just the idea that
your parents I never had one, man, I we had
like bunk beds, and I was like, I was always
jealous of the kids that had the car bed. I
thought they were like rich, you know, because they had
the car bed and all that. All right, well, thank
you an great early yeah, hold on.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
My earliest memory of Pulk Hogan was the first BHS
tape I had that I would play on my little
thirteen inch BHS TV player was I think it was
the nineteen eighty four WrestleMania when Holk Hogan picked up
Andrea the Giant and suplexta.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Oh yeah, no, I that was one of the iconic
moments of my of my youth for sure. All Right,
thank you, Ann, and good stories there, Lann and checking
in eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox is the number.
So this is another wild story about hal Cogan Cogen
started something with a five hundred dollars bribe that is
(28:43):
still used today. So in the early days at WWF,
Vince McMahon told hal Cogan, they said, listen, you can't
play music when you go out to the ring. Don't
do it right. So they didn't allow it. So Hawk
tells he told the story that he went to the
sound guy at the arena and said, listen, I'm not
(29:03):
don't listen to Vince. You know, play I of the Tiger,
crank it up, and and Hulk paid this guy five
hundred bucks. Now think about nineteen eighty three, five hundred bucks. Okay,
you can do the math on that. You get out
the inflation calculator. So let's see nineteen I'll do that.
I'll do it right now, all right, just barely.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
I wish I was back in those days.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
When five hundred dollars was a lot of money, or
when or when you.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
Could buy a whole tank of gas for like three
dollars and seventeen cents.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, so for five five hundred dollars, let's do the
math on this. In nineteen eighty three today's money, that
would be sixteen hundred dollars. So Hulk gave essentially six
boy that two hundred and twenty three percent increase or
I guess decrease depending to look at it. But anyway,
so in today's money would be sixteen hundred dollars, but
back then only five hundred bucks. Yeah, so Hulk paid
(29:57):
this dude five hundred bucks. Played Ie of the Tiger
the the arena was apparently jumping right, you know, he
jumps in the arena there it goes crazy. That blew
the roof off the place. And he said, hey, Vince McMahon,
I said, man, you know they've been selling the merch
and all that stuff. And Hall claims that Vince realized,
like that was a dumb idea, and you need walk
(30:19):
up music, you need entrance music, and no like in
baseball batters have for years, there's been many years they've
had walk up music when they go to a baseball game,
big league game, they got music playing when they come
to home plate. Haul Cogan, that was the guy, his
own own tune coming in back in the in those days.
Who else do you obviously page down here a lot
(30:41):
of interesting story. Stevie Meatball's writes in from Florida says,
as a young ten year old meatball, I remember first
seeing Haul Cogan as Thunderlips when I saw Rocky three.
That's right, yeah, there was. I saw. I was reading
a story. All these stories pop up when someone dies.
You know all these things, and try to read as
much as you can. I saw one of the stories
said that the wrestling people did not want Hulk Hogan
(31:02):
to be in that move because he was a wrestler
and they thought it was bad. And obviously it turned
out not to be such a bad thing. Steven Meatballs
in Floridasa's I remember he called Rocky the Ultimate Meatball,
like it was a bad thing. He was great, rest
in peace, Thunderlips. So sadly no longer in the flesh, baby,
he says. Justin says, Hulk slammed Andre, but even in
(31:27):
his prime, no chance he could slam Robbie the Mariner fan.
All right, let's go back to the phones. Let's say
hello to Mark the full name guy, who is next
in Well, he's no longer in Medford, Organ, so he's
somewhere in Oregon. Hello, Mark the full name guy.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Hahi. Then now yeah it's Asland, Oregon. Now you feeling
all right? You know why I thought I thought I
had the wrong station on. I'm waiting to hear the
nattering nap Bob of negativity, and here he is, watching nostalgic.
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I know I'm doing old man radio. I've become an
old man. I'm doing all these people are dying? Why
is everyone dying? Mark the full name guy Man? I mean,
come on the last couple of years ago, why can
we can we stop? Can we just stop having the
people check out?
Speaker 4 (32:21):
So?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I mean, man, Uh, everyone's bringing up to George Foreman.
Story Foreman passed away, not that long ago. He died,
not that long ago.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
You know the the kid from the Cosby Show drowned.
You know, he dead too, Ozzy Osbourne dead, Everyone's dead.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Yeah, I guess is that negative enough.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Or is that negative enough for you?
Speaker 7 (32:44):
You know?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, it's well, we all have a fatal illness. It's
called life. There's no getting out live, so we got
to deal with that. But that's you know, Hey, we'll
get there. I accidentally hung up on Mark. All right, Well,
Coop has told me he hung up on Mark, which
means I will get the wrath of Mark the full
name guy. That Mark will direct the fire at meat.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
Do you think he will use your full name Ben?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
He will claim that I am responsible for that, that
I am the one that fed him Mark. You're free
to call back. We are not trying to screw you
over Mark the full name Guy. It is the hour
of Hull Commedia as we celebrate the life of all
Kogan there and our memories. If you're having any wrestling
memories here, we don't normally talk wrestling because we spent
(33:28):
our time talking about some random football players or basketball
players or whatever happened to Lebron James. And that's kind
of how that goes eight seven seven ninety nine. On
Fish we get a lot of good stories from dudes
on the social media. Parito writ sin, since I ran
into hul Cogan and Bubba Smith at the Sage brus
(33:50):
Cantina in Calabassa, I remember that place. Is that place
still there? I remember that that can't be there anymore?
I went there a few times back. It is definitely
still there. Is it really? Wow? I mean I hadn't
been there in probably literally thirty years. Anyway, popped a
few beers with them and got an autograph for my son.
I'll keep quiet now how I view him today? PARTO says,
(34:12):
all right, there you go. Yeah. But Bubba Smith's another one.
Bubba played for the Colts, the Baltimore Cults. I had
Bubba on my radio show and I was doing local
radio in LA and Bubba was a spokesman for Budweiser,
and so he did all these interviews on We did
remotes on Monday night when I was doing local radio,
(34:33):
and Bubba would come out there and Bubba swore We
did an hour one night with Bubba Smith and he
was convinced that super Bowl three, the Joe name of
super Bowl, was rigged, and he explained like how it
happened and all that, and I mean, he just had
great details and it was one of those things that
would have gone viral, but there's no way for it
(34:54):
to have gone viral because the Internet didn't really exist
in those days. It was just a conversation late at
night on the rad that kind of died at that point.
For those that heard it, it was wild that Bubba Smith,
and he said it to other people, but he just
had a couple of pops and was just letting it go.
It's letting it rip, just letting it rip. J Dot
writes and says, my brother and I would wrestle on
(35:15):
her parents' bed and wear a white tape on her
wrist like hul Cogan growing up his kids resting feat
of the legend, the Hulkster hull Comania. Yeah, man, how
many kids broke bones because the Hulk Cogan? How many
kids growing up broke their bones trying to be like
the Hulkster.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
My brothers were wrestling on the trampoline when they were younger.
I wonder if they were doing Hulkgan because my brother
snapped his arm literally in half. Oh God, my brother
slammed him down like higher.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
That's great. H Josh and Nebraska says, I watched Hulkgan
and all of them in the WWF and even when
Hogan did the nWo run in WCW and then back
to WWE, huge loss, rest in Peace. Halkster even watched
the movies. He was a nanny in one of them.
(36:06):
He points out, all right, Andy, Andy and Lionel Lakes,
Minnesota's ten out of ten of monologue. It was nineteen
eighty before Hogan turned into the megastar, and he was
in the Awa with Mean Jean, I mean gene Oku.
Jean had a cabin on a lake in northern Minnesota,
and he used to bring wrestlers up to a bar
(36:27):
on the lake, and I met hal Cogan several times there.
That's cool, that's awesome. Get away there in northern Minnesota,
beautiful country, beautiful get away from everything. All right? Is
the Ben Mallor Show. It is since at the hour
of Hal cogeran as we pay our respects Hal Cogan dead,
Here's the who am I? Game? Before I became hal Cogan?
(36:49):
The guy named Terry Bala was working as a bodybuilder.
Who and he met me a professional wrestler who ultimately
helped Terry Buleya Ander wrestling and the rest. As they say,
it's history again. Before he came hault Cogan, the person
named Terry Boleya was working as a bodybuilder. How do
(37:11):
you work as a bodybuilder? You paid for anyway? Uh
met me a professional wrestler who ultimately helped Terry enter wrestling.
Who Who am I? That is the question? What is
the answer. We'll get to it. We will do it next.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
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(37:50):
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Radio videos on the you Tube. Back to it all? Right,
back to it we go, and it's the hour of
hal Cogan. So we had to have a who am I?
Game in that vein. Before becoming hal Cogan, just a
(38:14):
guy named Terry Boleya was working as a bodybuilder. He
met me. I was a professional wrestler who ultimately helped
Terry Boleya and her wrestling. Who am I? That is
the question? What is the answer? Gil and San Diego
going with cocoa. Beware alf the alien opinter says the
(38:36):
biggest fan of hal Cogan, the iron Chic unless he's
not a Nacho from Scrooge Wonder Twins from Sean in
the Valley of the Sun. Mister nice guy paying no
attentions going with Jeff co nine. Mister Marlin ferg Dog
says mister America is the clearly the answer. Gorgeous Ladies
of Wrestling icon and sex symbol Matilda the hun from
(39:00):
Stevie Meatballs. Eloy from Compton says the Great King Kong Bundy. Yeah,
I met King Kong Bundy the Dodger Stadium one time.
He's not a good looking Harry Well he had clothes on,
but he very round, interesting looking dude. Nice guy is nice.
(39:20):
Late night drugtist says you are Bryce Young who is
twenty four today? Who else we have? Page Dan Let's
see here, can't read that WNBA, Firebrand Angel, Reese Axe
and Smash Demolition from Big Lou He's on number two.
Who else we have? Fellow w W Hall of Famer
Bob Yucker the Yuke lost him too in the last year.
(39:43):
Bob Yuker the Junkyard Dog another legend from Jay Scoop.
Who else do we have? Brutus the Barber, Beefcake. I
love these old names. Yeah, these are great names. That's
Andy and Lionel Lakes with that one Superstar, Billy Graham
from Milkman, Mike hack Saw, Jim Duggett. Uh yeah. I
(40:05):
don't know about anyone else, but when I was a
little kid, I used to watch Hacksaw Jim Duggan. When
we would my dad would take me to like I
don't even know if it was called home Depot then,
like you know, one of those type stores back in
those days, and I would grab a two by four
and walk around like I was Dugget. It was great.
I was like, I was like the coolest guy in
that store. And I think it was called Home Devo.
(40:26):
I think it was called something else anyway, Big Daddy
Cool Diesel from mister Luciano brock Lesner from Robin, Minnesota,
hans On Franz from The Nature Boy, Sky low Low
from Rich Uh wow, somebody, somebody actually got this right.
That would be JJ.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
You absolutely cheated, he admitted he cheated. I was like, no,
it's gorgeous, George. There's another good name, uh from Johnny C.
Bald Bull. If you played Mike Tyson punch Out, you
know who bald Bull is. Damn touton. Uh, mister Luciano,
Uh says. Unfortunately, me and my brothers broke about three
couches because of Haaul Cogan. So yeah, dude, we were.
(41:09):
Is there anything like that today and then the world's
so different now than then, I don't know, and it's like,
can't be anything really like that. George the Animal Steel
had a chance to meet him. I did a wrestling
bit with George of the Animal Steel years ago. He's
dead too, all right, Uh, Loraina, do you have an answer?
Speaker 8 (41:22):
Yes, Ben, I'm gonna go with Rocky Balboa.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Rocky Bow Bow.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
No.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Well, it was actually Jack Briscoe who said the wrestler.
Jack brisco said, you gotta get in touch with Hero Matsuda.
And there was Hero Matsuda who taught Terry Bole how
to be a wrestler, taught him with the leg drop,
and so that's the guy, Hero Matsuda and Jack Briscoe
Oh brother, what are you gonna do when Hulclemedia comes
for you? Welcome in. It's our number one, our number
one of the original Recipe podcast. A happy Friday to you.
It is the twenty fifth day of the month of
July and we are hanging out here. Reminder, the Fifth
Hour podcast will be available later today and we'll have
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the story of Bye Bye Brother, the Marlborough Man and
the Malard Meatball only available on the Fifth Hour podcast,
and some other stuff as well. Some other stuff, but
our one, the rare and appropriate homage, the eulogy to
the late Great hault Cogan. If you're around my age,
this is someone that you grew up with and someone
(00:45):
that was a big part of your childhood and has
crossed the mortal coil and left this world going over
the pearly gates. So what are you going to remember
about the life of the iconic wrestler hal Cogan? What
was the secret ingredient that made hal Cogan special for
so many kids? And how much power did the Hulk
have over the children in those early days when he
(01:08):
was beloved the babyface I We'll go over all of
that right now, give it up for our number one
what you're gonna do, brother, when hulk media runs wild
on you. Welcome in the beginning of another night of
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gonna go off the reservation for a minute. Our lead
this hour is not the normal. Some douchebag in the
NFL got hurt or complained or Jerry Jones farted, and
we need to break it down. No, no, no, no, no no.
We're gonna actually do something we very rarely do. And
since I have editorial control, I have chosen this to
(03:01):
be the story that caught my attention the most, that
I was most interested in talking about, And so as
long as I have the bully pulpit, I can make
these decisions. And we're gonna start with a wrestling story.
I think you know by now, I'm assume you've heard.
It's really the biggest story I believe in sports, and
I assume you've figured it out. But the wrestling world
(03:22):
and the sporting world mourning the death of a legend
that transcended what was at that time the WWF now
the WWE. Hulk Hogan is dead. Died in Florida cardiac
arrest early in the morning hours on Thursday. I was
seventy one years old and was born Terry Bulla, and
(03:48):
he joined the WWF in the early nineteen eighties and
within a couple of years had become the biggest personality
and really put that operation on the map and made
a lot of people a lot of money in those
days and even to this day, the day that Hulkgan
(04:11):
left the mortal coil that we all share here, the
revenues and the impact of the wwe are just next level.
So let us discuss the question what are you going
to remember about the life of Hulk Hogan as we
knew him? So my thoughts on this. I got shag Carpet,
(04:31):
Prince Charming, and bulletproof, and we will combine all of
these things together and we are gonna make the Gobba Ghoul.
We're gonna make the gobagol so A. The main reason
I'm starting with this is it hits close to home, right,
A chunk of my childhood as growing up and not
knowing much about anything, like we all start out, A
(04:54):
bunch of my childhood is gone. The man with the
twenty four inch pythons and the Fu Manchu mustache and
the whole thing just gone. That's it, see you later.
Now what do I remember? What do I really remember?
I'm not gonna sit here and there I go on
with all his scandals, lawsuits, the reality show, all that. Listen,
(05:16):
there's no question Haul Cogan was a flawed man, There's
no doubt about it. But what I'm going to remember
is my youth. Hulkomedia right flashing back. I was a kid,
fat kid. Haul Cogan burst onto the consciousness of America
as I was growing up, and I saw it through
my eyes, the eyes of a child. It was awesome.
(05:39):
It's fired off man, haul Coke. Impact that he has
was next level on the culture in the nineteen eighties.
This was a guy that stood in my head. This
is how fed up I was as a kid. I
don't know if you like me. I don't know how
old you are. Maybe you're younger than me and you think, well,
you're just a boom or what are you doing? But
(06:01):
as a child, in my head, like Hulk Hogan was
toe to toe, belly to belly with the cartoon heroes
that we all worship. Like he was he man, you
captain America. Hulk Hogan was them, except he was real.
You said, no, he was, You're just a loser. But
we'll try telling that to ten year old Fat Benny,
(06:24):
who was sitting with his legs crossed on some shag
carpet my parents bought years earlier, in front of those
giant televisions that was the size of a Toyota and
watching Hulk Cogan become a national treasure. And I don't
do the whole Mount Rushmore thing. Other people do that.
I'm not going to do that, but in my head,
(06:44):
and that could be completely wrong about this, what do
I know, But in my head, if I think back
to that era in my youth, the biggest names in
sports in the nineteen eighties, that's Joe Montana with the
forty nine ers, Magic John with the Lakers. In boxing,
it was Mike Tyson, and it was Hulk Hogan, like
(07:05):
all of them, larger than life. Of course, those other
guys played real sports. Hulk was not about that. He
was a spectacle. It was the theme music, the real
American and all that. We played some of that and
just the whole thing, the national anthem on Saturday mornings,
and that was the Stone Age man. I grew up
in the Stone Age. There was no Internet and all that.
(07:26):
You'd watch the cartoons, which was that's a whole different
sub story about how this The cartoons on a Saturday
morning reginally were you were forced to put those on
and they really just became vehicles to sell Sugar Cereal
the kids. But anyway, you had the big, big hit.
You had Transformers, g I Joe, and then boom right
(07:47):
into w WF Superstars with my original broadcast hero Mean
Gene Okerland, who stood there in a tuxedo talking to giants,
literal giants like Andre the Giant. It was absurd as
a kid, it was glorious, It was wonderful. I want
to give a little taste here, so we have a
little clip here. This is Mean Gene Oakland, hul Cogan
(08:07):
and Macho Man Randy Savage. They're all gone now, they're
all dead. But listen to this. This is this is
what it was like watching this as a kid. Tigers
Oh Comania, two megap powers, mean It Air the Mine,
Oul Cogan, what has happened?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, you know me, Geane, we really don't know what
we're dealing with here, man, And I'm just kind of
a little worried about walking up here because we just
might pull the whole planet up. You know, everybody knows
that whole Comania is the strongest force.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
In this universe.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
But when I get that ring and I saw what
the madness was all about, I realized there was a
whole other universe out there, a whole nother frontier and
the power of the madness in the media.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Just boom on, twenty four inch guns out. You mean
to tell me there is another solar system.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Matos we student a state of shack right now.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
All right, went on. I'm not going to sit here
and tell you they were all doing coke. But you know,
I didn't think that at the time, but looking back,
they probably were. But page two here, what was the
secret ingredient as we say goodbye and pour one out
for Haul Cogan? What was the thing that made him
so special in the wrestling game? Well, the obvious thing
that you don't need me to tell you. This guy
(09:17):
was one of the great showmen, charismatic, He had this
magnetic personality, great stage presence. Vince McMahon and his dad
cooked up the formula which had been around for a
while in professional wrestling, was the WWF at the time,
and it was the age old battle between the good
and the bad, right, the good and the bad and
all that, and the rivalries between what they call in
(09:40):
that business the baby faces versus the heels. That is
responsible that sells the tickets right, gets people intrigued and
all that, but nobody did it better than the Hulkster,
and he was able to blur the lines between fiction
and reality. Again, as a kid, I'm sure there were
adulta whose is the dumbest thing in the world, But
as a kid, I was like, this was Prince Charming, mesmerizing, captivating,
(10:02):
and just how successful was it? The number that is
mind blowing. And I know everything's gotten shopped up and
taking apart in pieces like a chop shop for our attention.
But going back at WrestleMania I think it was the
famous WrestleMania three in the early eighties. There were thirty
(10:24):
three million people that watched hul Cogan versus andre the Giant.
Thirty three million. And I put that in context. Our
friend in Fox Sports Radio's form A Morning host and
FSR alumni member Klay Travis pointed out that that is
more people that watch. More people watch that than the
World Series, the NBA Finals, and the Stanley Cup Final
(10:45):
combined this year. If you combined all of those events,
there were more people watching a staged wrestling match between
Hull Cogan and Andrea the Giant. And you know, look,
I get it now, you know we know now it's scripted,
but back then, as a naive kid, I didn't think
about it, didn't really care, didn't know. It was just magical.
(11:08):
You'd see Hulk Hogan there sweating like he was, you know,
dying under the lights, dripping water, hulking up if you will,
and obviously on steroids that came out later. They were
all on steroids, it seemed. And then you know, shaking
the the righteous fury as as he could in those
early days and pointing the finger of doom and all that.
(11:29):
And you know some loser villain guy, you know, the
iron chic who literally, I think literally really like hates
Hulk Ogan. It is, you know, the end of the
life Big John stud Rowdy Roddy Piper. Now, if you're
if you're of a certain age, these are massive names.
If you're also of a younger age, you're thinking, well,
this is the worst monologue ever. Oh my god, this
(11:50):
is terrible. But just let me just let me finish this, okay.
So then Hulk had the leg drop the signature move,
you know, one, two, three, the crowd goes wild, the
music HiT's he's flexing the biceps there, and he could
solve all the world's problems all in that moment, and
Haulkogin did he get rich? Well, everything's relative, right. He
(12:13):
made a lot of money, made a lot of money.
He also lived very interesting life away from the ring,
involving you know, sex, drugs, rock and roll, all that,
and you know, bad decisions and things and so spanning
his his career. Based on a minutes long Mallar investigation.
(12:34):
Starting in the nineteen eighties, when hulk Amania took off,
it's estimated hul Cogan made one hundred and fifty to
two hundred million dollars before taxes, before paying off spouses
and other poor decisions that he made. And remember, money
was worth more in the eighties. It was worth more
in the nineties than it is today. Just like you know,
(12:56):
if we get to twenty fifty, money today is going
to be worth more than it was is then. Now
the last word here, So how much power power, power
power did Hulkgan have over kids in those early days?
And I can speak of this because I was a kid,
so we all bought it right in my head, every
(13:17):
kid bought in completely. He was the master salesman. You
talk about product placement, the hulk Mania T shirts the
action figures all kinds of crap that's in landfills right now.
And I was a kid that got fat on WWFA
these ice cream bars that I got, and I was
convinced that I had to get these. I remember pestering
(13:39):
my dear old mom if she rest in peace, I
had to get my hands on those WWF ice cream bars.
And I couldn't stop eating them. I thought they were
the greatest right and the whole thing right. And now
I was more of a mean gene Oakland guy, but
I couldn't wear a tuxiedo. I remember me and my
older brother we went to the Anaheim Convention Center, which
is an absolute shole, but it was wrestling there, and
(14:01):
we stayed after to see the wrestlers walk out to
their to their car. You know, there was like a
bus thing take them to the hotel. And I remember
seeing these guys and they were wearing like these uh
soprano you know, if you remember the old jumpsuits they
would wear back in those days. And so I'd see
these them, Oh man, they're out, they're out of uniform
and all that. I was like wow. But so I
(14:22):
got fat on the WWF ice cream bars. I blame
Hulk Cogan. But then in my head, I ate the
vitamins and and so I figured, like, if just you
eat the Hulk Hogan endorsed vitamins, and that would make
you bulletproof in my head as a kid, right, I mean,
Hulk told me, he said, to all my little Hulk maniacs,
(14:43):
say your prayers, take your vitamins, and you will never
go wrong. So I thought, Okay, I could eat the
ice cream bars, I'll get fat, but then I'll take
the vitamins. I'll be fine. And I'm telling you, there
were a lot of us who did just that, right
because we believed, you know, this was bigger than just
wrestling and all that and U and those are the
things I'll remember. And again, the headlines are there. And
(15:03):
obviously as a cynical, jaded, middle aged talk show host,
I've seen all the controversies. The Gocker thing, he took
down Gocker, the bubble, the love sponge, you know, stooping
his wife, the holy I mean, listen, that's all out there.
You can get that. You can do that if you want.
You know that reality stuff that came later in my life.
But I choose to remember the day that hall Cogan died.
(15:26):
I chose to remember the simpler time being fat little
Benny watching Mean Jean introduced hall Cogan hyping up some event.
Hey ww if coming to the you know whatever arena,
you know, coming to arena near you, you know, and
not the jaded, middle aged gas bag that I've become,
but more of the wide eyed Benny bright side, ice
cream all over my hands, chocolate, the whole thing, because
(15:50):
that was the time. You know, everything's like this when
you're a kid, right, the world just feels amazing. Everything's
ahead of you and you feel like you could body
slam anything U And that was Haul Cogan. So anyway,
rest in peace, hal Cogan. It is the hour of
Haul Coogan. By the way, if you want to share
any stories or tell me I'm a complete a hole
for doing this, feel free eight seven seven ninety nine
(16:13):
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We were on in Binghamton, New York, Pittsburgh, and like
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they launched the network, and they had all these big
(16:34):
TV people that were here from Fox Television that we're
working on the radio stuff, and we weren't on anywhere.
We were getting killed.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
At that time, we were like the fourth biggest sports network.
Nobody knew who we were. The whole thing right now,
this place is a monster, but back then it was.
But the show that had the most pull was a
It was like a Sunday night wrestling show, and that
had the most buzz was a wrestling show, and everyone
(17:02):
else was like, I couldn't believe it. What is going on?
Why is a wrestling show getting the most attention? Anyway,
that show didn't last that long, but it did have
a lot of attention in the early days. It is
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of that, feel free to chime in on this. Brother, Yeah,
come on Brother eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
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eight seven seven nine nine, six sixty three sixty nine.
There are so many amazing stories that I just want
to get these out because we'll forget about it. I mean,
you know, people, we move on, you know, we got
to live our lives. The Hulks checked out and we
move on with our lives, and so a lot of
these stories will be lost in time. But Hulk Hogan
started something that is still alive and well today. He
(17:45):
did it with a five hundred dollars bribe that since
that bribe, he was told he couldn't do something, he
used a five hundred dollars bribe, and to this day
it is still a staple of sports in America, and
really not just America but all over the place. But
what is it, I'll tell you. We'll get to that
and we will do it next.
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Back to it, back to it and uh a few people,
what are you doing the whole COVID thing? Blind Scott's update, Well,
he's upset. Blind Scott's upset. Then that's good. There's a
couple other douches that are that are angry, but other
than that, pretty good. There you go. Truck Stop Fungus says,
no stories from the road until September. The old lady
(20:51):
had surgery on her two hooves, so we've side. We've
been sidelined until football season begins. To you, younger folks,
avoid marriage said, Chuck, stop fungus thing to avoid marriage.
Rod the ambassador of Bakersfield, one of the great mallord
meet and greets we ever did. We went to Bakersfield,
and I don't want to say it was hot, and
(21:13):
I'm not going to embellish how hot it was that night.
I think the estimate was it was two hundred and
seventeen degrees in Bakersfield that night. But we had a
great time. Rod hosted us. He says, great monologue. Ben
haul Cogan was the best. I still think he regretted
not taking the grill deal that George Foreman pedal. Yeah,
there are conflicting reports about that. There's you know, Terry
(21:36):
Bolea or hul Cogan had said that he was offered
the Foreman grill and he did not take it, and
then George Foreman went on and made a gazillion dollars
doing that. Scrooge in Northern California Rights since says it's
being gen Z. I actually grew up watching hal Cogan.
He was one of my favorite wrestlers. I also enjoyed
(21:56):
some of his movies growing up. Rest in Peace to
a legend. Late Night Drug Tester also says though he
talked about the George Foreman grill story as another one.
Nature Boy writes in answering the call a little while,
he says, for some reason, after watching Hulk wrestle, it
seemed like fun stuffing underwear in the mouth of my
(22:18):
friend's little brother. Wow, all right, yeah, one of of
the famous stories. My my parents very very rarely went out.
They didn't go out much, you know whatever. They stayed
at home because they had a bunch of kids. And
at one point they thought, hey, I got two brothers.
I'm in the middle. I got an older brother, younger brother,
(22:38):
so we have the two older kids watch the younger brother.
So we were all watching wrestling while they were out
at their nice dinner, you know, grown up dinner. And
I'll never forget. We decided it would be a good
idea to have my younger brother fly off the top
of the sofa like the top ring top belt at
the wrestling ring. And sure enough, he broke his arm,
(23:01):
and my mom did not ever let us watch him again.
That was one and done. That was it, one and done. Overnight,
Joe writes and says, big man, remember when I was
in college, He says, I remember that Hulk finally came
to my hometown in Rochester, New York. I never heard
the war memorial that loud. That's an iconic venue. Rest
(23:21):
in peace, Hulk. Also, he says Rochester's own Chuck Mangione,
who also passed away at age eighty six, sad night
in my hometown, says Overnight, Joe, there you go. Tacoma,
Drew writes and says, Ben, thank you for the stroll
through my youth. Me and my buddy swore wrestling was real.
So we would have ladder matches in my friend's basement
(23:43):
and would literally kick the crap out of each other. Yeah,
I'm right there, man, that was great. I have fond
memories of wrestling and copying moves and it was glorious. Tacoma,
Drew says eight plus plus. Brendan writes and says, I
remember watching Paul Cogan later in his career. Yeah, he
went to I didn't keep watching, like my memories are.
(24:07):
I got to maybe the early nineties with wrestling, and
then I moved on and went out and started working
and that was that was that. But I didn't really
watch him when he became a heel. But Brandon says,
I remember watching Hogan later in his career. The good
things are that he made the WWE into what it
is today. Yes, he has his character flaws. There you go.
(24:31):
I won't judge him, because who doesn't, he says. King
Rory right soon says like you, I don't want to
speak ill of the dead. As a wrestling fan, he
was larger than the life and change in the industry
forever rest in piece. The grill sergeanty you know, it's
a big night if the grill sergeants listening, He says.
I used to watch WWF on Mondays with my dad
back in the eighties during the height of hulkomany. Every
(24:53):
time Hulk wrestled a heel and said heel would cheat
and the ref I wouldn't see it. Yeah, that was
always a classic. And then somebody's going, oh no, they
don't see it. I don't understand. The ref would always
play dumb, you know, as part of the character. So
my old man would blow a gasket. Great memories, so
the grill sergeant. Yeah, looking back now, as an adult,
(25:15):
it's like, this is some of the most ridiculous stuff
in the world. But as a kid, you're like, oh
my god, why does the ref not see that. That's cheating.
I don't understand. Just Josh and Cincinnati says. I remember
going to see my first WWF event as a kid,
and Bobby the brain Heenan was carrying a briefcase with
ten thousand dollars for anyone who could pick up Big
(25:37):
John stud and slam him. Needless to say, the Holkster
collected the money that night. All right, let's go to
the phones, and who do we have this page? Dan,
Let's go to Let's go to Landon. Who's in Washington?
Up first? It is the Ben Mahlers show, the Hour
of Hulk of Mania as he died this week, and
we're paying our homage. What's going on? Land Welcome? How
(26:01):
you doing brother? I took my vitamin salk. I did
take my vitamins.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Well that's good. So I generally only call in when
you when you start your monologue with the Bengals, But
you know what you said, hit me in the fields,
you know, and brought me back to my childhood. I
didn't really start watching wrestling until about the nineties as well,
because I was born in eighty seven, right, Oh, so
(26:29):
so I got to see the heel part of whole
Comania when it was w CW Monday Night, Nitro and
raw Attitude Area going at each other, right, and all
the all the movies growing up, I mean, even having
the I never had the pillow of Hulk Mania, but
I always wanted one because I had a full sized
(26:50):
Ninja turtle and what I would do is I would
wrestle with him on my bed. And you know, I
was lucky enough to have one of those plastic Ferrari
car beds and it had a spoiler on it. Jump
off of that like it was the top top rope.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Dude, you were you were spoiled Land and you had
a you had a car bed as a kid. Come on, man,
I really, dude, your parents spoiled you? Dude, you did?
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
What happened? Yeah, Larina Loraina has a good point, Land
and what happened to that? Do you have kids now
as an adult.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Or because that's why I have I have I have
three daughters.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Okay, So I don't know our daughters in the car
beds or not. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
I mean I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
But car bed there was a there was a friend
of my dad's who had had a son and he
had turned four and I was probably I don't know
ten at the time, and he was like, it's time
for you to get a new bed, and it's time
for some other young kid to enjoy that bed.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
And I was like, oh, you know, yeah, yeah, well
you probably outgrow it, right, you eventually you get too
big for the car bed. But just the idea that
your parents I never had one, man, I we had
like bunk beds, and I was like, I was always
jealous of the kids that had the car bed. I
thought they were like rich, you know, because they had
the car bed and all that. All right, well, thank
you an great early yeah, hold on.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
My earliest memory of Pulk Hogan was the first BHS
tape I had that I would play on my little
thirteen inch BHS TV player was I think it was
the nineteen eighty four WrestleMania when Holk Hogan picked up
Andrea the Giant and suplexta.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Oh yeah, no, I that was one of the iconic
moments of my of my youth for sure. All Right,
thank you, Ann, and good stories there, Lann and checking
in eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox is the number.
So this is another wild story about hal Cogan Cogen
started something with a five hundred dollars bribe that is
(28:43):
still used today. So in the early days at WWF,
Vince McMahon told hal Cogan, they said, listen, you can't
play music when you go out to the ring. Don't
do it right. So they didn't allow it. So Hawk
tells he told the story that he went to the
sound guy at the arena and said, listen, I'm not
(29:03):
don't listen to Vince. You know, play I of the Tiger,
crank it up, and and Hulk paid this guy five
hundred bucks. Now think about nineteen eighty three, five hundred bucks. Okay,
you can do the math on that. You get out
the inflation calculator. So let's see nineteen I'll do that.
I'll do it right now, all right, just barely.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
I wish I was back in those days.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
When five hundred dollars was a lot of money, or
when or when you.
Speaker 8 (29:30):
Could buy a whole tank of gas for like three
dollars and seventeen cents.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, so for five five hundred dollars, let's do the
math on this. In nineteen eighty three today's money, that
would be sixteen hundred dollars. So Hulk gave essentially six
boy that two hundred and twenty three percent increase or
I guess decrease depending to look at it. But anyway,
so in today's money would be sixteen hundred dollars, but
back then only five hundred bucks. Yeah, so Hulk paid
(29:57):
this dude five hundred bucks. Played Ie of the Tiger
the the arena was apparently jumping right, you know, he
jumps in the arena there it goes crazy. That blew
the roof off the place. And he said, hey, Vince McMahon,
I said, man, you know they've been selling the merch
and all that stuff. And Hall claims that Vince realized,
like that was a dumb idea, and you need walk
(30:19):
up music, you need entrance music, and no like in
baseball batters have for years, there's been many years they've
had walk up music when they go to a baseball game,
big league game, they got music playing when they come
to home plate. Haul Cogan, that was the guy, his
own own tune coming in back in the in those days.
Who else do you obviously page down here a lot
(30:41):
of interesting story. Stevie Meatball's writes in from Florida says,
as a young ten year old meatball, I remember first
seeing Haul Cogan as Thunderlips when I saw Rocky three.
That's right, yeah, there was. I saw. I was reading
a story. All these stories pop up when someone dies.
You know all these things, and try to read as
much as you can. I saw one of the stories
said that the wrestling people did not want Hulk Hogan
(31:02):
to be in that move because he was a wrestler
and they thought it was bad. And obviously it turned
out not to be such a bad thing. Steven Meatballs
in Floridasa's I remember he called Rocky the Ultimate Meatball,
like it was a bad thing. He was great, rest
in peace, Thunderlips. So sadly no longer in the flesh, baby,
he says. Justin says, Hulk slammed Andre, but even in
(31:27):
his prime, no chance he could slam Robbie the Mariner fan.
All right, let's go back to the phones. Let's say
hello to Mark the full name guy, who is next
in Well, he's no longer in Medford, Organ, so he's
somewhere in Oregon. Hello, Mark the full name guy.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Hahi. Then now yeah it's Asland, Oregon. Now you feeling
all right? You know why I thought I thought I
had the wrong station on. I'm waiting to hear the
nattering nap Bob of negativity, and here he is, watching nostalgic.
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I know I'm doing old man radio. I've become an
old man. I'm doing all these people are dying? Why
is everyone dying? Mark the full name guy Man? I mean,
come on the last couple of years ago, why can
we can we stop? Can we just stop having the
people check out?
Speaker 4 (32:21):
So?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I mean, man, Uh, everyone's bringing up to George Foreman.
Story Foreman passed away, not that long ago. He died,
not that long ago.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
You know the the kid from the Cosby Show drowned.
You know, he dead too, Ozzy Osbourne dead, Everyone's dead.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Yeah, I guess is that negative enough.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Or is that negative enough for you?
Speaker 7 (32:44):
You know?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, it's well, we all have a fatal illness. It's
called life. There's no getting out live, so we got
to deal with that. But that's you know, Hey, we'll
get there. I accidentally hung up on Mark. All right, Well,
Coop has told me he hung up on Mark, which
means I will get the wrath of Mark the full
name guy. That Mark will direct the fire at meat.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
Do you think he will use your full name Ben?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
He will claim that I am responsible for that, that
I am the one that fed him Mark. You're free
to call back. We are not trying to screw you
over Mark the full name Guy. It is the hour
of Hull Commedia as we celebrate the life of all
Kogan there and our memories. If you're having any wrestling
memories here, we don't normally talk wrestling because we spent
(33:28):
our time talking about some random football players or basketball
players or whatever happened to Lebron James. And that's kind
of how that goes eight seven seven ninety nine. On
Fish we get a lot of good stories from dudes
on the social media. Parito writ sin, since I ran
into hul Cogan and Bubba Smith at the Sage brus
(33:50):
Cantina in Calabassa, I remember that place. Is that place
still there? I remember that that can't be there anymore?
I went there a few times back. It is definitely
still there. Is it really? Wow? I mean I hadn't
been there in probably literally thirty years. Anyway, popped a
few beers with them and got an autograph for my son.
I'll keep quiet now how I view him today? PARTO says,
(34:12):
all right, there you go. Yeah. But Bubba Smith's another one.
Bubba played for the Colts, the Baltimore Cults. I had
Bubba on my radio show and I was doing local
radio in LA and Bubba was a spokesman for Budweiser,
and so he did all these interviews on We did
remotes on Monday night when I was doing local radio,
(34:33):
and Bubba would come out there and Bubba swore We
did an hour one night with Bubba Smith and he
was convinced that super Bowl three, the Joe name of
super Bowl, was rigged, and he explained like how it
happened and all that, and I mean, he just had
great details and it was one of those things that
would have gone viral, but there's no way for it
(34:54):
to have gone viral because the Internet didn't really exist
in those days. It was just a conversation late at
night on the rad that kind of died at that point.
For those that heard it, it was wild that Bubba Smith,
and he said it to other people, but he just
had a couple of pops and was just letting it go.
It's letting it rip, just letting it rip. J Dot
writes and says, my brother and I would wrestle on
(35:15):
her parents' bed and wear a white tape on her
wrist like hul Cogan growing up his kids resting feat
of the legend, the Hulkster hull Comania. Yeah, man, how
many kids broke bones because the Hulk Cogan? How many
kids growing up broke their bones trying to be like
the Hulkster.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
My brothers were wrestling on the trampoline when they were younger.
I wonder if they were doing Hulkgan because my brother
snapped his arm literally in half. Oh God, my brother
slammed him down like higher.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
That's great. H Josh and Nebraska says, I watched Hulkgan
and all of them in the WWF and even when
Hogan did the nWo run in WCW and then back
to WWE, huge loss, rest in Peace. Halkster even watched
the movies. He was a nanny in one of them.
(36:06):
He points out, all right, Andy, Andy and Lionel Lakes,
Minnesota's ten out of ten of monologue. It was nineteen
eighty before Hogan turned into the megastar, and he was
in the Awa with Mean Jean, I mean gene Oku.
Jean had a cabin on a lake in northern Minnesota,
and he used to bring wrestlers up to a bar
(36:27):
on the lake, and I met hal Cogan several times there.
That's cool, that's awesome. Get away there in northern Minnesota,
beautiful country, beautiful get away from everything. All right? Is
the Ben Mallor Show. It is since at the hour
of Hal cogeran as we pay our respects Hal Cogan dead,
Here's the who am I? Game? Before I became hal Cogan?
(36:49):
The guy named Terry Bala was working as a bodybuilder.
Who and he met me a professional wrestler who ultimately
helped Terry Buleya Ander wrestling and the rest. As they say,
it's history again. Before he came hault Cogan, the person
named Terry Boleya was working as a bodybuilder. How do
(37:11):
you work as a bodybuilder? You paid for anyway? Uh
met me a professional wrestler who ultimately helped Terry enter wrestling.
Who Who am I? That is the question? What is
the answer. We'll get to it. We will do it next.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show.
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Radio videos on the you Tube. Back to it all? Right,
back to it we go, and it's the hour of
hal Cogan. So we had to have a who am I?
Game in that vein. Before becoming hal Cogan, just a
(38:14):
guy named Terry Boleya was working as a bodybuilder. He
met me. I was a professional wrestler who ultimately helped
Terry Boleya and her wrestling. Who am I? That is
the question? What is the answer? Gil and San Diego
going with cocoa. Beware alf the alien opinter says the
(38:36):
biggest fan of hal Cogan, the iron Chic unless he's
not a Nacho from Scrooge Wonder Twins from Sean in
the Valley of the Sun. Mister nice guy paying no
attentions going with Jeff co nine. Mister Marlin ferg Dog
says mister America is the clearly the answer. Gorgeous Ladies
of Wrestling icon and sex symbol Matilda the hun from
(39:00):
Stevie Meatballs. Eloy from Compton says the Great King Kong Bundy. Yeah,
I met King Kong Bundy the Dodger Stadium one time.
He's not a good looking Harry Well he had clothes on,
but he very round, interesting looking dude. Nice guy is nice.
(39:20):
Late night drugtist says you are Bryce Young who is
twenty four today? Who else we have? Page Dan Let's
see here, can't read that WNBA, Firebrand Angel, Reese Axe
and Smash Demolition from Big Lou He's on number two.
Who else we have? Fellow w W Hall of Famer
Bob Yucker the Yuke lost him too in the last year.
(39:43):
Bob Yuker the Junkyard Dog another legend from Jay Scoop.
Who else do we have? Brutus the Barber, Beefcake. I
love these old names. Yeah, these are great names. That's
Andy and Lionel Lakes with that one Superstar, Billy Graham
from Milkman, Mike hack Saw, Jim Duggett. Uh yeah. I
(40:05):
don't know about anyone else, but when I was a
little kid, I used to watch Hacksaw Jim Duggan. When
we would my dad would take me to like I
don't even know if it was called home Depot then,
like you know, one of those type stores back in
those days, and I would grab a two by four
and walk around like I was Dugget. It was great.
I was like, I was like the coolest guy in
that store. And I think it was called Home Devo.
(40:26):
I think it was called something else anyway, Big Daddy
Cool Diesel from mister Luciano brock Lesner from Robin, Minnesota,
hans On Franz from The Nature Boy, Sky low Low
from Rich Uh wow, somebody, somebody actually got this right.
That would be JJ.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
You absolutely cheated, he admitted he cheated. I was like, no,
it's gorgeous, George. There's another good name, uh from Johnny C.
Bald Bull. If you played Mike Tyson punch Out, you
know who bald Bull is. Damn touton. Uh, mister Luciano,
Uh says. Unfortunately, me and my brothers broke about three
couches because of Haaul Cogan. So yeah, dude, we were.
(41:09):
Is there anything like that today and then the world's
so different now than then, I don't know, and it's like,
can't be anything really like that. George the Animal Steel
had a chance to meet him. I did a wrestling
bit with George of the Animal Steel years ago. He's
dead too, all right, Uh, Loraina, do you have an answer?
Speaker 8 (41:22):
Yes, Ben, I'm gonna go with Rocky Balboa.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Rocky Bow Bow.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
No.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Well, it was actually Jack Briscoe who said the wrestler.
Jack brisco said, you gotta get in touch with Hero Matsuda.
And there was Hero Matsuda who taught Terry Bole how
to be a wrestler, taught him with the leg drop,
and so that's the guy, Hero Matsuda and Jack Briscoe
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