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May 5, 2025 35 mins

Ben Maller rips the Cavaliers after their surprising loss against the Pacers, Indiana exploiting the Cavs defensive struggles & how Tyrese Haliburton and the rest of the team set the rest of the tone for the series, a new edition of Maller to the Third Degree, & much more! 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Omaha, o maha, omaha. It's our number to hour two.
We start out with the second round of the pro
Bounceball playoffs and the Pacers and Calves going at it.
Can you explain what the heck went wrong for Donovan
Mitchell on the number one seated Cavaliers as they take

(00:21):
it on the chin in game one? Do the Calves
get a mulligan because of guard Darius Garland's injury he's out?
And what did Tyres Halliburton and the Pacers really accomplish
in game one as they have the early lead in
this series. We'll talk about all that and more right
now here. It is having great Monday. It's our number two.

(00:43):
It is all about that pace of play, the pace
of play, if you will, or just the pacer of play.
Welcome in the beginning of another hour of the Ben
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buying should be. So our lead this hour is from
the land the two to one six Now somewhere Strip Club,
John Ohio, al and all the legends in Ohio are
shaking their head because it was not supposed to go
down like this. That would be the game number one
the Lidlifter Here Eastern Conference second round matchup. You had

(02:29):
Tyrese Halliburton and the Pacers traveling party that long three
hundred and fifteen mile trek from Indianapolis to Cleveland, a
playdate with Spider. You should never play with spiders, Spider
Mitchell and the Cavaliers. And this was the undercard, the
undercard on the main event, the Game seven, which went

(02:50):
to the team from the Bay Area, the Warriors, eliminating
the Rockets. So I don't know if you saw this
or not, were watching or paying any attention to it?
Maybe you were not. We watched it. It's our good
Mitch of the day. And how did that turn out?
How did this game be? Was surprisingly good? Surprisingly good?
Now I have no skin in the game. I don't
I didn't bet on it.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I don't particularly care about the Calves or the Pacers.
I just watched as a neutral arbiter, a neutral party
watching the game. Just give me something to talk about.
That's my mindset watching these games. Just give me something
good to talk about. And we got that. Tyrese Haliburton
over rated the most overrated player in the NBA, as
voted by his peers.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Tyrese Aliburton went out. How did he do?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
He had a key basket, a three pointer midway through
the fourth quarter, and as the Calves had made a
furious push to get back into the game, it was
not enough because the team from the Hoosier State put
on the after burners after that, and the Pacers were
able to get it done. The Calves left stupefied as

(03:57):
they were losers one twenty one to one twelve the final.
As Indiana takes game one and Haliburton at twenty two
points thirteen assists departure to the pear Tree and Andrew
nebhard Nemar with twenty three points, five three pointers, five
three pointers for the Pacers, who are the number four seed.

(04:18):
They're the number four seed. Look at that live number
four and to game two. I know you're already counting
down the minutes. You have a timer on your phone there.
Game two will be Tuesday night back in Cleveland. So
the better story is in the losing locker room. So
that is where we will begin to let us discuss.
Can you explain? Can you explain what went wrong for

(04:41):
Donovan Mitchell and the top seeded Cavaliers. So I've got
Glenn Ivy, hot springs, Belagio, and candlelight, and we will
combine all of these things together and we are going
to make a corn beef sandwich is what we're going
to make, all right, So numb burn.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I get a number, so number one. Let me just
want it.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
This was not a traditional upset. It wasn't upset, but
not a traditional upset. Traditional upset is not where you're
dominating the game. This was a domination situation. I want
a blowout domination. But Indiana led for most of the game,
like it's not like they were trailing, and they snuck
up late in the fourth quarter and stole the game

(05:25):
away from Cleveland. Now, the Pacers were ahead for the
balance of the game. They had a twelve point lead
in the first half. They had a twelve point lead
in the second half. Cleveland was frazzled. They were being
draggled by the pace of play from appropriately the Pacers.
That's what stood out to me, uh and Kenny Atkinson.

(05:47):
Cleveland won a bunch of games, they were the top
seed in the East and all that.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Whoopte damn do congratulations.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
But this team, on this particular day, the Cavaliers throughout
the game, it's like they the coach Kenny Atkinson, had
taken the team on a field trip to glenn Ivy
Hotsprings for a.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Bath in mud club mud.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
They were they were just off, just off enough because
at home number one seed, all that better team, blah.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
They were immersed in a pool of mud, the Cavaliers here.
And if that didn't do the trick, they just grabbed
fistfuls of mud and then shoved it right in there
in their mouth, is what they did. You had a
corner coopia of defensive breakdowns by the Cleveland Cavaliers, terrible shooting,
a questionable decision making down the line, down the line here,

(06:42):
and if you want to circle individual. We love naming names,
naming and shaming and blaming and all that and the
finger of shame. You've got three names, three of them.
You've got Spider Mitchell. Ohbody here, thirty plus points. I'll explain.
But Spider Mitchell, Jared Allen and and Ty Jerome who
had been so good in some games earlier in the

(07:04):
plus But those are the three that I jotted down
on the notes app on my phone. That are the
three villains for the Cavaliers in game number one. Now
the individual situation. Now, Spider Mitchell, you see a lot
of stories out there. Oh yeah, it's not his fault.
He had thirty three points, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
His shots.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
He took thirty shots. Thirty shots to get thirty three points.
In what world is that an efficient performance? In what
world is that a good performance? Thirty shots to get
thirty three points. You gotta be joking. That was not
a good performance. And he took eleven three point shots,
one of eleven for Donovan Mitchell from behind the arc.

(07:41):
That's my computer like brain tells me nine point one
percent from three point range. And then on the defensive side, now,
Jared Allen did not shoot the ball. That's enough, he's
seven shots in the game. But the other issue here
is that he was targeted multiple times not to get
two into the minutial of basketball. But they did the

(08:01):
old switch aroo and Tyrense Halliburton treating him like a
piece of clay and not just manipulating the situation here.
And so they would switch and Alburton would zoom past
Jared Allen. But on offense he was underutilized because the Pacers'

(08:22):
interior defense blows and yet he only had seven field
goal attempts.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Who goofed, I've got there, and then he got tied
Jerome who.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Actually kind of liked this guy, but man, he'd suck
in this particular game, he runs around. He liked the
Tasmanian devil out there on the court, bouncing all over
the places, hitting big shots. But he was reckless with
his shot selection there and made some bonehead decisions for
the Cavaliers who were down most of the game, down
most of the game. Now, page two, do the Cavaliers

(08:52):
get a mulligan? As a listener from Ohio, I believe
Mike is his name. He's in the Cleveland area, but
not actually in Cleveland. He's in the where the rich
people live. Mike wrote in he said, well, Ben, you're
gonna probably rip the Cavaliers tonight, but make sure you
mentioned Terrus Garland. Okay, so there you go, Mike, I
mentioned it, So I'll phrase the question this way. Do

(09:13):
the Cavaliers get a mulligan? Because guard Darius Garland did
not play in this game because of injury and I'm
shaking my head.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, I'm shaking my head.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
No.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Garland has a toe problem. Oh my aching toe. He's
got a sprain tow and he's missed a few games.
Didn't affect the Cavaliers when they played Miami because Miami
pretty much gave up and there's no structural damage. The
reports as all NBA injury reports. Every player that's gotten
hurt in the NBA, you think is on their deathbed
the way it's reported by the NBA media, they're about

(09:47):
to die. There's a clergyman coming in to give the
last rites. You're convinced every time one of these guys
gets hurt. And so it's like swelling and pain and
all that nonsense going on and on and on. Now,
Kenny Atkinson called Darius Garland's situation. He said, his status
is up in the air, but not everywhere, because we're everywhere.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
He's just up in the air. We're up in the
air everywhere. He's not up in the air everywhere.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now, spoiler, Alard, spoiler. Here is my general position when
it comes to injuries. Right, My position when it comes
to these injury situations is the last I checked, they
don't shut the train down because somebody got hurt. The
whole point of this is it keeps moving down the
tracks and all that, and it is a war of attrition.

(10:31):
Next man up, and you're supposed to handle the adversity,
and if you're good enough, you're going to overcome that.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
That other players will rise up.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
And Garland is a fine playmaker, averaged almost eight assists
per game during the season, and he is able to
create a lot of open shots. But he's not there,
so someone else needs to step up, and nobody else did,
and you lose the war of attrition to the Indiana
Pacers in this game. But you think of it like
going to the Blaggio and playing poker. Now you're playing

(11:01):
poker and you just deal with the cards that you're
given and you just kind of figure things out as
you go. Cleveland was a sixty four win team, So
are they a one man team? Is it all Darius Garland?

Speaker 2 (11:14):
That's it?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
There's nobody else on the team, and you look around.
These guys did not adjust, They did not adapt to
the situation. And the Pacers exploiting the defensive side of things.
The offense was an issue. What about the defensive side
for Cleveland? If I'm not mistaken, the Pacers shot sixty

(11:34):
seven percent in the second half. Are you even trying
at that particular point, and they said, well, too much
time off, they were flat. Make all the excuses, but
it's an embarrassing situation. You've lost home court. Now Cleveland's
more than capable of going to Indiana and winning a game.
So it's not like, oh, it's a horrid situation, but

(11:55):
final point, all right, final point here putting the bow
on the So what did Tyrese Halliburton and the Pacers
accomplish by winning? And I would argue not dominant, but
not just barely winning fashion somewhere in the middle there.
What did Tyrese Saliburt and the Pacers accomplish there in

(12:17):
game number one? So they what they did is they
took a candle out and they lit the candle, little candlelight.
They set the mood, right, they set the mood. They're
not gonna be a bunch of pushovers in this series.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
And all that.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
And they turned on some romantic music, so they kind
of set the vibe that the whole thing going there.
It was a nice opening act. It was a nice
opening act. And that's it. It's you could still lose
the next four games. They're still capable of going out
and losing the next four games to Cleveland. But this
was not a mistake. The way they played was not
a mistake. It's a more enjoyable team to watch. Is
that a incorrect statement? I don't have a problem watching

(12:51):
the Pacers. I like the way that they play. They're
a high tempo, they get up and down. It's nice
to watch Cleveland little choppy. Now they didn't have Garland five,
but they watching the team's play. Cleveland without Darius Garland
was exposed, right, They were exposed, especially in the late

(13:13):
stages of the game.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
So Garland, who knows, he might not come back. I
don't know. Maybe this guy's gonna miss the rest of
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
It is the NBA, after all, So on a positive
note for the Cavalry, I'm gonna be Benny bright Side.
There is no such thing as momentum, so just because
the Pacers won this game will have no bearing on
what happens on Tuesday. There is no continuation from one
game to the next that does not not happen. But
the famous cliche, we can now check the box. A

(13:44):
playoff series does not start until the home team loses.
So now in game one, the playoffs have started. This
series has started because the home team lost, so it
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Speaker 2 (14:04):
Have a feel.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
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some therapy after you don't blame him, I'm listening. I

(14:28):
mean he really I think he bet twenty thousand on
the Lakers to beat the Wolves or something like that.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
No, something like that.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Anyway, this team embarrassed themselves, so he's he's not here,
but I understand, I get it. So we got Brie
in the house and she's hanging out with us and
the whole thing. Later this hour, we will have mallardly
third degree. That'll be coming up a little bit later.
Also tonight in the Eastern Conference, the Knicks and the Celtics,
and how is that game looking well? The Celtics opened

(14:57):
an eight point favorite. They are favored by nine in
that game. And the money money money is all on
the side of Boston, so that is based on the
money going to be a lopsided game. We will see
if that is the case or not when they get
together tonight a little fun there a little pro bouncy

(15:19):
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If you will.

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It's just a little horse play. It's just a little
horse play. Or is it just a little horse play.
We'll get to that, and we will do it. Horsey, Horsey, Horsey.
We'll get to that.

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We will do it next.

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His team embarrassed themselves yet again as we roll on.
Now back to the nonsense, Well, back to it and
back to me, Ben, and don't forget coming up later this.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Hour, Mallard to the third degree.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Also later this hour the instad trivia will be coming
your way. So we have a lot to get to
talking most things pro ball here just chatted about the
Pacers taking Game one over Cleveland ferg dog rights since,
says Ben, how sad is it that while US Clipper
fans are out living our best lives, all the haters

(17:12):
are miserable and letting the Clippers live rent free in
their heads?

Speaker 2 (17:15):
One hundred listen.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
It is a powerful position that the Clippers matter so
much that people stay on hold to talk about them
and call up, and they send messages on social media.
Anthony and anaheim sending a family photo of his his kids. Anthony,
He've been very busy there, Anthony over the years. That

(17:39):
is your wife. I know she was your girlfriend. She
hated the show. I don't know if she still hates
the show.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Let's go to Let's go to Jeff in Denver.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Hello Jeff, welcome, you are next up on the Ben
Malor Show.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
Well, hello, Ben, I was wondering if you were going
to talk after your Lakers took the proverbial throw up there.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
My Lakers, Yes, my Lakers went out there, My Lakers. Yes,
you said Lakers. You made a mistake right away, you said, Lakers.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Well, it's just as you think of when you think La.
You don't think Clippers.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well, apparently not, based on the reaction of the people
that are taking joy. The Clippers matter, they move the needle.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
So how about your playoff Harden? I thought you got
his game out of the way. His bad game. He
was eight shots and only seven points.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well, well, the good news is next year, Hardens, he
had two bad games, two out of three bad games,
So that means he should have like twelve good games
in a row based on the math.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
When it comes, when it matters, though, he disappears. That's
what you've always hated about him. Now he's on your.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Team and you yeah, no, listen, seen he defend James Harden.
That was gutless. That was pathetic. If I owned the Clippers,
I would get rid of him. I wouldn't even allow
him to fly back on the team plane. I was
to get your ass out of here. We're going to
get you a greyhound bus ticket, okay, and then knocked
yourself out take a bust back to LA. That was embarrassing.

(19:03):
It was pathetic and is nothing he did well. He
looked scared. I get rid of him.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I send him. I don't know where you can send him,
but my god, is he horrific.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Talked him up. You were thinking you got this bad
game out of the system.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Well, he did have a bad game. And if you
look at the mat, I did the math all right.
Based on the math in his playoff career, he had
ten percent of the time. He had had a bad
game in ten percent of his playoff games. So if
you based it on the math, he got the bad
game out of the way. And it turns out the
math wasn't mathing. That's the problem. It wasn't Malard Man.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
It was actual math. I used real math.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I looked at the games he had been inefficient on offense.
Based on the games he had been effective or at
least passable. That was even passable. That was terrible. But
I wouldn't feel too good if I was. I was
you because the Nuggets didn't impress me. The Clippers should.
The Clippers gave two games away, the overt on game
in Game one, and then that fluke dunk. The Clipper
should have won anyway, even with James Harden, they should

(20:05):
have beaten the Nuggets.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
But we had a thirty five point lead at one
point in that game.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, and you gave it all back to the Clippers.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
You gave it all back to the Clippers, and they
you needed Nicola Yogis to miss about as bad as
you can miss on on a shot attempt, and then
a fluky thing happened with the dunk at the end.
I wouldn't be I wouldn't be feeling too good. You
got a nerd coach, you got the net Bo nerd coach.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Good luck.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
We won by nineteen points the other night.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
It doesn't matter the Clippers even try. I wouldn't celebrate
that if the other team doesn't compete, how how do
you celebrate that? That wasn't a game, That wasn't a competition.
The team quit, The Clippers quit, There was no competition there.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
Why do you back a team that? Why do you
back up team A quitters?

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Then?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well, because I know the owner's gonna get rid of
those guys and he's gonna put up with this. So
enough is enough. How embarrassing is that Balmber Balmer chartered.
I know he's got more money than God, but he
charted a flight with all the real Clipper fans. By
the way, if they charted a flight with real Laker fans,
there'd be nobody on the flight.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
But they flew real Clipper fans there, and.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Then they showed up to lose by they were down
by thirty something points or whatever.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
It was ridridiculous.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Yeah, what about what about a Westbrook?

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Well, I don't care if Westbrook sucked as a clip,
you gonna have him. He'll break your heart, He'll kill you.
You know that's fine. I have no issue with Westbrook
not being on the team. The guy's garbage and he
made some shots. Fine, he's not the reason the Nuggets
won the series. And I promise you he will break
your heart. He will break your heart, Jeff against Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
City, he will kill you.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Better than Harden.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Now they're the same, they're they're the same.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Westbrook plays harder than Harden, so i'll give him that,
But he's just as inefficient, he'll miss layups, he'll he'll
keep shooting three points and missed most of them. That's
why it was so shocking. He made shots because he's
the Clippers did the same thing every other team does.
Leave him wide open, and he actually made some. But
it's not it's not like he's made them his entire career.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
He usually misses them.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
So no, but.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, all right, listen, je have you your team won
the other Congratulations that Clippers decided.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
To give you the win.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Where oysters?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Well, again, there's no there was no wager.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
We know that I've already I've already eate I've already
eaten Rocky Mountain oysters.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
I ate them. There's video I ate them. What four
years ago, whatever it was four or five years.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Ago, we've had this discussion.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
You ate jerky, and what was the jerky made them?

Speaker 3 (22:43):
So?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
What was the jerky? Testical? He was made of testicles? Okay,
I ate I.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Ate the jerky and it was made out of Rocky
Mountain oysters.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
Jerky can be flavored up.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
It was not flavored up, sir. It was not. All right?
Are you done?

Speaker 4 (22:59):
All right?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
We'll have this opression next year to you Okay, yeah,
we'll have I know, I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Thank God. How lucky are we.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Let's go to dan uh Dan is in Cleveland and
Dan is next. Hello Dan, welcome, Hey Ben, this is
our said, Oh I remember you.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, it's been a minute.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, I want to talk about the Cavs. Well, first
I heard Fox Sport Radio talking about the shows. A
commercial talking about different shows. Overnight show. This is the
most entertaining show on radio period. No rivals the old
Art Bell Show.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Oh wow, it's very kind. Art's the legend. He Art Bell,
the greatest ever to do overnight talk radios. It's very
kind of.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
You, mister know it all here. He did a great show.
The show rivals his show.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
There you go see look at that. It's a high
praise from you.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
No, he wasn't talking about you. It's teamwork, Oh does it? Teamwork?
Is it? Teamwork makes the dream work? Is that the phrase?

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I'm just a superstar leader. It's the whole team. Anyway,
I've been watching the Calves. I got tired of basketball,
but since they were doing good, I gave him a shot.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
They sucked you back in. They sucked you back in.
Our said you were thinking about moving on, but they
you're back.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I saw them last week or two weeks ago, six
times down before the other team took the ball from
the top of the key, drove to laid the ball
in off the glass. No one got near them, no
one touched them. What are what the hell is this? Flag? Basketball?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
That's how pretty much everyone plays.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
So it's not just the calves, it's the entire sport
of basketball.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
That's usually how the games go.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
There's unbelievably boring. We had a great team here in
the nineties, and of course Detroit overshadowed by being violent
and aggressive. We had a bunch of passive, great basketball players,
but they couldn't beat Detroit because Detroit punched them in

(25:09):
the jaw.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
It is amusing though, Like there are guys around your age.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
They loved that the Mark Price Brad Doherty.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Calves of the like the eighties in the early nineties
or so like that is a romantic era.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
As opposed.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
But yet they actually won when they had Lebron But
yet the love affairs were like the craig Elo Calves.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Even though they didn't win.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Well, they got rid of Harper because he used to
go out the bars at night.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
They had, Yes, God forbid, if you got rid of
every player in the NBA they went to bars and
chased women, there'd be no one left in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
There would literally be no one on the court.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
They had a Bible belt owner at the time, and they, Oh,
we got to get rid of the sky parties at night.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well that worked out.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Well, that was a big mistake. Anyway, I was gonna say, I, uh,
I never mentioned this. I used to hit seventy four
percent of my NFL college picks Pro picks football picks.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, well what are you doing in Ohio?

Speaker 2 (26:14):
You should be in Vegas or something like that.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Right, Well, that's a long time ago. I did it
from the time I was fifteen to above forty.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Oh, you should be super rich if you made If
you hit seventy four percent of your picks, you should
be loaded.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Well, I have a house in the Florida and two
up here.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
No, look at this guy, he's loaded. This guy's loading
showing up. Look at you are, said, little flex there? Huh,
do a little pirouetta on catwalk?

Speaker 2 (26:41):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (26:42):
The thing is I worked for Generous Motors, Okay, Yeah,
I used to buy and sell silver and gold. And
I used to drive the office.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
And all right, well send me an email.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Give you some financial tips because I'm not getting rich
doing the overnight show.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
All right, thank you are said, I got to Oh buddy,
all right, there's the great oars, said, I han't heard
from him.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
In a while. Random call in here. So some horsey play.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Over the weekend, they had the one hundred and fifty
first running of the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
And how did that go?

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well?

Speaker 1 (27:16):
It did very well, did very well, and we had
the winner of the equine pick him, although she did
not watch a second of the race. I was working,
I sent out immediately after the race. I sent a
text message. I said, wow, you found your calling here.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
And she was.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
The Raina who picked the winning horse in the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
But it was Sovereignty.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
Great job, great job.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
And why did you pick sovereignry? I like the name,
you liked the name? Okay?

Speaker 1 (27:45):
So that broadcast seventeen point seven million viewers, the most
watched edition of the Kentucky Derby since nineteen eighty nine. Wow,
before I was alive, nineteen eighty nine. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
We were alive.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
No, yeah, no, no way before I was left eighteen
point five million back then. So the question is why
all of a sudden did this thing kick major tail?
Why look at listen the ratings have been pretty good
and you know, around the same number, and then you
have the highest rating. It wasn't like this was some

(28:21):
magical edition of the Kentucky Derby. But they they claim
the race portion of the broadcast, they just absolutely killed it.
They peaked at twenty one point eight million, And to me,
this is like the perfect event.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
That's impressive.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, this is the perfect event because it's two minutes.
It's two minutes, and then it's a it's a reporter,
a little reporter, little person on a horse interviewing the
little person, the jockey that won the race. And that's
that's it. You just get out on that. I don't
think you can say little people anymore. Ben, I know
I can't say the other the M word. I've been
told I can't say the word. The free can say that.

(28:57):
You go ahead say it.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I'm good, you know, man man, little man, miniature man.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
There you go. Munchkin, right, you can do munchkin, miniature munchkin.
Like what was it the Jockey seven. It is snow
White and the seven Dwarfs.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
You could do Jockey fellow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Anyway, So did you watch that breed? Did you watch
the Kentucky Derby?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I was asleep.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
It was late in the What are you doing? I
have an overnight?

Speaker 6 (29:26):
I just I do it too, Okay, but I had
to work at the following overnight.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
It doesn't matter. I don't take I'm an. I don't
take naps.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
Oh you're I'm jealous of you, man.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay, teach me your wings. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Anyway, it is the Ben Mallard Show, and we were
gonna have Mallard to the third Degree by the Kentucky Derby.
Massive audience, the highest ever over there. I know all
my friends over at NBC are all excited about that
because that is a huge deal, huge deal.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Of thirty four percent from last.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Year on the streaming included in that all right, straight
at Mallard of the third Degree.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Ton out for the Insta Trivia And here it is.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Golden State's Buddy Healed tied Blank for the most three
balls in a game seven with nine of them. Buddy
Hill at nine three pointers that tied Blank for the
most three balls in a game seven.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
That is the Insta trivia. The answer, We'll get to it.
We will do it next.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Meller
Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app Bell Miller and You.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
It is the Ben Mahler Show up all night, every
single night, and you can stream this show and all
of the Fox Sports Radio shows live. Twenty four to
seven new and improved iHeart app to search Fox Sports
Radio in the app streamers live and one of the
newest features in the app, you can select Fox Sports Radio,

(30:53):
Ben Maler Show, Fifth Hour Podcast as your presets right
there at the top. Presets just like the car radio dial.
Sure to preset Fox Sports Radio, Ben Mahler Show and
Fifth Hour Podcast in the iHeartRadio app will always pop
up right at the top of your screen.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Now after the Internet back.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
To it, and we do have mallardly third degree that
is coming up here momentarily. But first we have to
pay off the always popular Insta Trivia and we had
a historical shooting performance in game seven for Golden State.
Buddy Heel tied blank for the most three balls in

(31:32):
a game seven in NBA Playoff is with nine three pointers.
That is the question. What is the answer? Listen, does
anyone know the answer? Count Tracula from Donkey Sausage, Brian
the Heel, Finley from Stevie Meatballs, Bing Crosby guest by
I forty, Ian Pope Trump from King Rory. Who else

(31:55):
do we have a Mini Me? Guest by Big Greg
and Iowa?

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Who else?

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Buddy Ebsen from BP Andrey Drummon or Arnold Drummond from
Alf the Alien Opiner John got it right? Bad job
by him? Soda to Eke and Rosevio Minnesota. Dwight Howard
guest by Shane and the Moine, Mark Matd Dog Mattson
from Ben j T The Wingman going with Fernando Velanzuela

(32:20):
as his answer. Pancho Carter from Malibu. Rubin Kenneth got
this right?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Who else?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Buddy Bianca Lana guess by Chip and the Cues. Hul
Kogan's Mustache Boy, What was that? From Austin Powers, Mojo
Jordan's Stopper craig Elo from Ozzie was Spud Webb named
by Naturontino Martinez from Donut Kelly.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
All right, what say you are?

Speaker 6 (32:44):
Uh breeze future husband Kyle Kerver.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Corver, it's Corver, but no, it's a Dante Devincenzo with
the Knicks last year at nine.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Here we go, Here we got oh, here we go,
Here we go, Here we go, Here we go.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
To the third degree.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
This is Ben gets great and making a rare and appropriate,
rare and appropriate appearance.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Here in the producer's chair. We say hello our friend, Brie, Hi, Ben, Hello, Okay.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Our report came out late last week that Lebron James
suffered an MCL sprain in his left knee and the
Lakers Game five loss against the tar Wolves. Ben, do
you think this is actually a new injury or something
fabricated as another excuse for an embarrassing first round?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Actually, here's a deal, Bri. We've been around this so
long enough. It's paint by numbers.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Lebron his team underachieves, he does not live up to expectations.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
That's the first part.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
The second part is the people around Lebron cook up
some kind of bull crap excuse, whether it's the coach's
fault or a teammate's fault or Lebron's got an injury.
It's absolute crap ola. I don't want to hear about it.
You're never, You're never. You're gonna get anywhere near Michael
Jordan's level, So just stop.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Next, on a.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
Recent podcast NFL Legend, Warren Moon says should Or Sanders
needs to act like a quarterback and be more respectful. Quote,
you can't act like a quarterback when you're playing quarterback.
Quarterback is a humble position. You got to be respectful.
That's what he has to understand. Unquote, Ben, do you
think he has a point?

Speaker 1 (34:18):
No, because you can be a schmuck and an egomaniac.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
You got to be good.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
The problem, war Moon, what he's really saying there is
should Sanders is not good? Like if you if you're
going to be a marginal talent, you have to be
respectful and all that stuff, and should Sanders is not
is not that there are quarterbacks who are complete schmucks,
but they're really really good, so it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
You don't have to be humble.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
You don't have to be humble if you're good.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
He's not good. That's the problem.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
Right Next, but the news of a head coach Greg
Popovich retiring from coaching, This first hired assistant coach Mitch
Johnson as their new head coach. Do you think this
is the right movement instead of someone with a little
bit more experience?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
I don't even know who. I don't even know who
that is. It's I don't know who Mitch shots it is.
I have no idea experience. I've never even heard of
Mitch Johnson. All right, So what am I supposed to
say about miss jun?

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Listen?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
One thing I do. Look at the Nuggets. They got
dork Nepo coach, and they beat the Clippers in the
first Nulf. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
These teams.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
It's like a self driving car. It's like a tesla
that drives itself. These NBA teams right.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
And they is everything. They take care of it. It
doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Wemby, if he's good enough, he'll make this guy a
Hall of Fame coach.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
There it is. How did we do as I want?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
You? Right?

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Up? Good job?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Dad? Are you sure I don't sense the sincerity in that?
I don't? She let you in, oh Man,
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