Hour 2 - Grin and Bear It

Ben Maller talks about a new book that says Caleb Williams and his father tried to avoid Williams being drafted by the Bears, how Williams' widely reported uneasiness with Chicago impacts his long-term relationship with the Bears and their fanbase, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh maha, oh maha, oh maha. It's our numb birtwo.
Our number two is ready for you. The podcast is up,
and we talk about the big story out of Chicago.
Your reaction to this book that paints the picture of
Caleb Williams going scorched earth, doing everything he could with
his dad to avoid playing for the Bears. Also, what

(00:21):
is the message of that father, Carl Williams. What was
he sending to trying to like the Dickens to avoid
the Bears for his kid. How will Caleb Williams widely
reported uneasiness will Chicago impact his long term relationship with
the Bears and their fan base. Also this hour, you're

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gonna want to listen to a wild call from all
people Pam in Seattle, a favorite of the Malard Militia.
She's a well known musician in the Pacific Northwest, and
she called up and I'm not gonna tell you what happened,
just gonna want to listen because it's rather wacky. In
this hour number two here it is Hour two. Well,

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sometimes you just can't grin and bear it, you can't welcome.
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So our lead this hour from a nice juicy story
out of the library. That's right, when's the last time
you went to the library? I bet it's been a minute,

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although I think Cowboy John, Brad and Dick and Dayton
go there daily, but for the rest of us, it's
likely been a minute. So you heard that right the library.
The chatter around the NFL as we sit here in
mid May, the chatter all about excerpts from a forthcoming
book which is not gonna hit the bookshelves in the

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library till September. If you didn't hear about this, and
maybe not, maybe not. This goes back to last NFL season,
the can't miss top pick in the draft, Caleb Williams,
and he's a Chicago Bear. He didn't want to be
a Chicago Bear. How do we know that, Well, we

(03:11):
knew it at the time, and now we know it
again because of a new book which is coming out
and they're piping up the book. The way the book
game works, as it has been explained to me, before
the book comes out, about three months before you start
leaking stuff, you try to build up to a crescendo.
You get a lot of buzz going for the book.

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So this is why this stuff is leaked a few
months before the book comes out. So Kayla Williams and
his father, the Dad Carl, attempted to circumvent the NFL draft.
They did not want the Chicago Bears to select Kayla
Williams in the twenty twenty four NFL draft. This guy
Seth Wickersham, who had a lot of dirt on the

(03:55):
Patriots a couple of years back. He's a scribe that
likes to dig in to the weeds, and he's got
a new book coming out now. It's not specifically about
Caleb Williams. It's about quarterbacks and some of the other
guys around the NFL, like the Manning family that were
able to successfully avoid playing for the old San Diego

(04:16):
Chargers and things like that. So Chicago, according to the book,
there's a quote from Carl Williams, the father of Caleb,
who said Chicago is the place quarterbacks go to die.
And with Williams being the clear cut number one pick
coming out of us, you have father there. Carl was

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very open. He didn't hide this, He didn't keep this
on the down low. This was not spoken in hush tones.
He told multiple agents in twenty twenty four that he
did not did not want his kid to play for
the Bears, who had the top pick. Now, he went
as far as to consult Archie Manning, who successfully punked

(05:02):
with Eli Manning. The old San Diego Chargers orchestrated behind
the scenes of trade to avoid Eli from playing for
the San Diego Chargers. So my friends in San Diego
upset that the Chargers left to go to LA. You
can blame Eli Manning. He didn't want to play there,
and that led to a trickle down. Eventually the team

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left to go to LA and Eli played for the Giants,
and Eli did turn out to be a middling quarterback.
You really wan't all that good. A lot of dumb people,
the casuals, think Eli was good. He wasn't. We all
know that. But he did go on and made a
lot of money and people like him because of two
days or two playoff runs. Other than that, he was
a failure. Now part of the book, Williams decided Caleb

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Williams decided he wanted to be drafted by the Minnesota
Vikings of all teams, because he had a bromance with
Kevin O'Connell. At the NFL scouting combine, they were sitting
around roasting marshmallows and singing Kumbaya unless they weren't. But
the Chicago Bears GM Ryan Pole stepped in and said,
no matter what, we're drafting you, we're drafting you. And

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so there you go. Now. One of the other interesting
quotes that has been tossed out to try to promote
this book by Seth Wickersham is the quote from Carl
Williams who said the rookie cap is unconstitutional. He said,
the collective bargaining and agreement is the worst piece of

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s word I've ever read. It's the worst in sports history.
The father of the Bears quarterback said, So let us discuss.
There's a lot to pick apart on this. So the
question will be like the hyena picking the meat off
the rotting carcass. So the question, give me your reaction

(06:51):
reaction to this book that paints the picture the way
I read these excerpts that Caleb Williams and his they
went scorched earth to avoid the Bears and it didn't work,
much like Kleb Williams trying to avoid a sack. That
doesn't work either. Right, So my observations, I've got the

(07:12):
pop swap sewing machine and voting numbers and voting numbers,
and we will combine all of these things together and
we are gonna make the chicken schwarma is what We're
gonna make the chicken shwarma.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
So number.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I said, number. All right, let me preface this by
saying that doing a daily talk show, none of this
was new in terms of Kaler Williams not wanting to
play for the Bears, in terms of Caleb Williams attempting
to get out of playing for the Bears. Like that,

(07:51):
stuff's not new information if you pay attention to the
Daily Grind. The part that is new is Kevin O'Connell,
all right now, Kevin O'Connell, his connection is his bond
with these quarterbacks, next level. The rest of it's just

(08:13):
kind of confirmation and all that that. The rumors which
so many people like to sweep aside. Why do you
talk about rumors? Why do you I don't understand. Why
do you talk about rumor? Is none of it's real.
It's just meaningless drivel. That's why people don't like talk
radio because okay, well all of it was right, It's

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all documented right there. The father, Carl Williams, was not bashful, right,
he was not bashful. And in this case, you look
at the Bears right now where they find themselves a
year in to the Caleb Williams experience. And so the
Bears franchise has done the old pop swap back of
the old day is the Bears love to romanticize Papa Bear,

(08:59):
Allas Hall all is where they practice at Papa Bear,
the legendary John, the figure that's bigger than life in
Bear's history. Papa Papa Bear George Hallis. So that was
back in the day. Now they have pageant Papa, is
what they They went from Papa Bear to pageant Papa
the enthusiastic, supportive, overly involved Dad, right, But Dad, Carl

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the father here was deep inside the Duffel bag of tricks,
the deep dive into the Duffel bag of tricks. Now
everything from trying to get an ownership stake in the
Bears to as far as we know, he probably deputized
Sweet James and called Jacob type lawyers to escape the Bears.
And they read over all the legal ease and tried

(09:45):
to find some kind of loophole. None of it were
all right now, pitchdo so what is the message? What
is the message that Carl Williams was sending by trying,
like the Dickens to avoid the Chicago Bears. So this
is a terrible look. I have an unpopular opinion on this.
I realize that many people are like, oh yeah, I

(10:06):
avoid the Bears too. The Bears blow man, and the
Bears do blow and the Bears do suck my entire
life other than like one or two years, you know,
as a little kid, the Bears have been pathetic, all right,
they've been pathetic despite that. This is a bad look.
It is a bad look because what you're telling me
by it didn't work. But you try to do it.

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You couldn't do it, which also looks bad. You're not
powerful enough to do it. Other people have been able
to do it. You couldn't do it. But the pageant
Papa spelled out that he and his kid, No, the
kid's not that good. He is not the dynamo that
powers the show. Caleb Williams that Caleb and the father,

(10:52):
these guys, they doubted his ability to be a franchise
game changer. That is a loser's attitude. Oh, the coachization out. Okay,
if you're that good, if your God's gift of football,
none of that other stuff matters. None of it matters.
You are so good. You go out there and you

(11:15):
rise all the other boats the rising tide, right, everyone
else rises around you. You don't run from the grid.
And it sounded like he couldn't pull it off. He
tried to do it. Caleb Williams tried to run from
the grid and he was handed some scraps, and instead
of trying to go out and get that sewing machine

(11:36):
and sew together a masterpiece, he's like, no, no, I
want to go somewhere where I get the good silk
and I can have better material. And instead of creating
your own reality, you're turning. You're turning to run. He
could even pull that off. You're supposed to turn the
stumbling block into the stepping stone. And his father loser's

(11:56):
attitude and Caleb Williams losing attitude. Listen the Bear's history
with quarterbacks. That tells you what has happened, not what's
going to happen. Now. At the time they had Matt
Eberflu's and Shane Waldron as the two brains on offense.
But if you're the spark that lights the fire, you
change the history of those guys. And it turns out

(12:17):
that he wasn't that Caleb Williams is You're not that guy, Pal,
You're not that guy, right because Eberflus lost his job.
Shane Waldron lost his job before Eberflus did with the
Chicago Bears. Right now, final point, So how will Caleb
Williams widely reported now it's in a book uneasiness with
the Chicago football team. How is this going to impact

(12:38):
his long term relationship with the Bears and their fan
base in Chicago. So Ever since he got drafted by
the Bears, Caleb Williams has publicly said all the right things.
For the most part. He's done everything you're supposed to
do publicly, but you know privately there's a different position
on this. And so where I sit from thirty thousand

(12:59):
feet looking down, this is gonna burn Dog Williams. It's
on the public record. We are at a fork in
the road situation. Right, You're gonna go this way, you
can go that way. We're at a fork in the
road situation. You have multiple outcomes in the multiverse. Ultimately,
much like we talk about the home court advantage and

(13:20):
championship pedigree and all these bull crap things momentum after
the fact, this is also one of those things where
if you can have some success, the outcome will determine
how this goes. Get out the cologne. You have some success.
We know that winning cures everything. Should Caleb Williams turn
the Bears into a legit contender. This will all be

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part of a nice cute story. The guy that didn't
want to go to Chicago and he turns out to
be the savior of the Bears franchise, the Messiah and
all that. Now, if he continues to play the way
he's playing is the Duke of Puke, then this will
be used as an example as to why Chicago should
have never got into business with Carl Williams or Caleb Williams.

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And this just continues the incompetence of the Bears and
the early voting numbers. If you look at the early
voting numbers and the exit polling are in, and the
Bears fans should not be happy. They should panic because
Caleb Williams has been two things, a stat banditai, a
stat bandito, and a broken clock, his internal clock. If

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you've been sacked sixty eight times in your rookie season, right,
you got. It's not coaching, It's not the offensive line.
That's on you. You suck, you blow, that's on you. Right.
Sixty eight sacks third most in NFL history, only David
Carr with an expansion team in O two and Randall
Cunningham in the mid eighties with the Eagles have been

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sacked more in the season, and he lost. Cala Williams
lost four hundred and sixty six yards four hundred sixty
yards on sacks four six six on which was the
fourth most lost on sacks in the history of Pro football.
And remember, the sack is a quarterback stack. The low

(15:10):
information fan, the uneducated fan will say, oh, it's on
the office, low and blame the fat guy. No, most
of the time, not always, but most of the time,
the sack is on the quarterback. And it should also
be mentioned here the experts say in the game the
sack is half a turnover because when you're sacked, you're

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pretty much torpedoed that drive. So a sack is worth
half a turnover, which means do the Malard math on this.
So sixty eight sacks as a rookie, and if each
sack is worth half a turnover, that's an extra thirty
four turnovers. Thirty four turnovers on the resume of Caleb Williams,

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the dancing bear who didn't want to be a bear
and is a bear, and good luck, good luck to
the Chicago Bears. He just doesn't doesn't seem like he's
It doesn't seem like he's it. We'll we'll see what
happens there. Anyway, it is the Ban Mahlor Show. If
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Dallas Cowboys, and Micah Parsons has actually addressed the conspiracy. Normally,
you're not supposed to address the Komodo Dragon in the room,

(17:00):
but Micah Parsons has done it. He's gone to Cowboy
conspiracy Land. But what is the conspiracy? What is it
all about? We'll get to that and we will do it.

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So act accordingly, and now back to it, all right,
we go back back back, back, back back back back.
On the Overnight Milkman Mike writes in from Colorado, he says,
back to back killer monologues almost like there was a

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full moon. Now that crying Blank has been exposed to
You see him crying in his mommy's arms when he
gets sacked ten times a game. I think he meant
crying Caleb, but he put an S instead of an
A there, so he meant crying Caleb. Yeah, I'm not

(19:22):
impressed some of the some of the nerds are like, oh,
look at the numbers Caleb put up, you know, and
all that, even with the sacks. And I'll let you know.
I'll let you know. I'll let you know when i'm impressed.
I'll let you know. Kathy and Madison approved of that
medal of monologue. She was a big fan of Nature
Boy says, do you think Yasiel Puigue will beat the

(19:42):
next mote of meat Greek? Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's
not going to be at the meet and greet in Vancouver,
which will be coming up less than two weeks away.
If you're in Vancouver, obviously, I hope you know about it,
but we're going to be in your town. If you're
in Vancouver, beautiful, beautiful British Columbia. And I've been doing
some research here on places to go, things to do

(20:06):
in Vancouver. There's a lot to do. There's a lot
they're gonna have to come up with like a big board,
not a list, a big board of things to do
to get the full essence of Vancouver. But I'm excited
about everyone on the show's excited about going there and
hanging out, and we're gonna have a big meet and
great want to thank the man that made all of

(20:26):
that possible, a Nico, for putting that together. So it's
gonna be a lot of fun and hopefully you can
make it on Thursday. Details on social media. Details on
social media. Now. We did a Mallard monologue last hour,
and last hour's matter of monologue was about the NBA
playoff game. But we didn't give you was the play
of the day. So the Nuggets were tied at eighty

(20:47):
with Oklahoma City and then they went on a ten
minute stretch where they outscored the thunder Late third quarter
most of the fourth quarter by sixteen points, had a
choke hold on the game and the per the player
that led the way is NIKOLEA Jokic, and NIKOLEA. Jokic
happens to be the guy responsible for the tire Iraq
play of the night. Take a listen Murray behind the

(21:08):
three point line.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Back over to Jokicic Jokic for three.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Twelve point lead for tend for their big lead of
the night. Yeah, there you go, and that was on
their way to victory. So there will be a Game
seven on Sunday. Oklahoma City favored in that Game seven.
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go to the phones. Pam is in Seattle and she
must be hanging out with Inka Terror. The only way
that Pam's gonna call this show is if InKo Terror
has made his way to Seattle. Hello, Pam.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I then good evening, Lorena and Coop. And before I
tell you why I'm calling, I'd like to congratulate j Scoops.
I hope his new bride appreciates his guest judging. Although
I am happy that Nikatar is back on the panel
of the Malard Palooza, now, I am absolutely heartbroken that

(22:20):
I can't make it up to the Vancouver for your
meat and greet.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
I'm I wish. I I'm so happy that you're coming
to the Pacific Northwest. And even though I can't be there,
I was wondering if you would consider initiating me into
the Malard Militia.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Well, absolutely, Pam. You have some performance you have to
do that day you're working. Is that why you're unable
to Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Playing with the Juno Symphony at the end of the
month while.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
You're that's awesome. That's awesome. Are you you're going do
you have you done that before? Have you gone to
Alaska before? I assume you're going to Alaska to do that?

Speaker 4 (22:55):
No, it's my first time. So when I was invited,
I said, I'm going to take a camp.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Oh, it'd be awesome. That's great. Y'all have a wonderful time.
And Pam, if you don't remember on the show, here
I can celebrate and I can rhapsodize the virtues of Pam.
She called us up. We did not know she was
a ringer and she performed in the Mallard Palooza and
is she's a professional musician, and she absolutely killed it.
We were all like, oh my god, this is the

(23:21):
greatest thing we've ever heard. Because it was the greatest
thing we'd ever heard. And so we're we're upset. We're
not gonna be able to see it, Pam. But that's
all right. We will swear you in. Are you prepar
This is very serious. This is not just a cheesy
radio big Okay, all right, here we go. Pam in
Seattle is about to be scorn. Yeah, it's the Mallard

(23:45):
Militia oath. Just repeat after me, Pam, very simple, Just
repeat after me. I state your name, I, Pam, do
solemnly swear swear that I will support and defend the
Ben Mahler Show.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Oh, we'll support and defend the Ben Malor Show against
all enemies, against what all enemies?

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Against all enemies.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, we have a lot of enemies. People that don't
like to show foreign and domestic.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Foreign and domestic.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
And then I will obey the orders.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
I will obey the others.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Oh boy, to pieces what is going on here? I
thought this would be smooth to peacefully fight back.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
And truthfully fight back.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Are we getting punked? Are we getting punked? Here? Pam?
You're sober? Right? You know you're never You're not drink
or you're sober.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Come on, no, I'm totally sober. It's just it's just
a little bit of staticy on your end.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
You're blaming the phone. Okay, all right, okay, against against hostile.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Attacks, against hostile attacks.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
From rival sports gas bags and blowhards.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
From rival sportscasters.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
And can you repeat that blow hard, blow hard, blow hard.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
What you said?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
I don't know, Laurini and Coop. I don't think we
can complete this oath here. I don't think she has
been able to successfully repeat the oath. And as the
the powers invested in me by the Overnight Mallard Militia,
the senior brigadier generals, I, Pam, I hate to do this,
but we you did not properly repeat the oath. I cannot,

(25:39):
I cannot swear you into the by the you know,
accordance with the bylaws of the Mallard Militia. I cannot
swear you in. You'll have to call back another time.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yeah, okay, I was really hoping that I could. I
could beat inca terror uh into being initiated uh first
into the Malard Militia. I'll try again another time.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Okay, good luck, Pam, Thank you enjoyed Juno. Okay, Wow,
that is a that is a surprise.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
I really thought she was gonna get that.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Pam is the most normal person that calls this show.
That had to be that had to be satire, right,
that had to be an act, like that's inkod terror,
Like no, no, no, that's in good terror. And hey, Pam,
let's bust Mallard's balls on the air. Don't He'll think
you'll kill the oath, you'll get it right, and then
you'll destroy it and then yeah, that's got it. There's

(26:31):
no way that's that's inkodear. He's probably laughing right now hysterically.
We got Mallord, we got Betty ha. Yeah, okay, I
see what you're doing. And somewhere across the Pearly Gates,
our friend Skeeter in Montana. It's like, wait a minute,
that was my that was my idea. I wanted the oath.

(26:51):
I demanded the Remember the oath started because of Skeeter.
This final we lost Skeeter a couple of years. Was
it last year? Maybe was last year? We lost Skeeter
to to old age. God love him. But he used
to call sho, I want to be part of the
mal or militia. And I said, you're okay, and he
demanded we started the old kind of hymn. Let's go
to Jola in Dallas. Who's next? Hello, Jola? Welcome? You see?

(27:17):
Is he there? Head Joel? You're on the air, Joela?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Go?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Is he going again? No way? What is going? All right,
let's go to get the dump button? Ready there, Jola?
He sleeping. He must be sleeping, right, I guess.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
So he called back and he's like, oh man, I'm bummed.
I hung up because I didn't think Ben was going
to go to me. And then I heard him call
my name and I'm going to hold on now and.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
He's holding on tight to that pillow. That is what
he's doing. Yep, all right, all right, well, thank you Joela.
Sleep well. You'll hear this on the podcast. We're big
fans of your work. Jola, very positive caller. Jola so
positive he can't stay awake. Let's go to Tony in
the Bay Area. Get that dump button, regular rain. Tony's
a big Chicago Bears man. Hello, Tony, welcome.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
Hey man, I got breaking news. If you don't mind, I'm.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I'm sure you have breaking news, Tony. I can't wait
to hear when you're breaking news. Go ahead, okay.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Well, back in nineteen eighty five, Jim McMahon and the
Chicago Bears won the Super Bowl and they weren't able
to go to the White House because of I don't
know the name of the Space shuttle, but that Space
Shuttle crash, you know, in eighty five or eighty six,
So they weren't they didn't go to the White House
because of the tragedy. But about ten years later, so

(28:34):
Jim McMahon was on a different team that won the
Super Bowl, and he showed up in a Bears jersey.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, he was with the Packer. He's a backup on
the Packers, right, wasn't he on the pack I think
he was on the Packers when they won.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
Some team that won the Super Bowl. But either way,
Jim McMahon bears.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Okay, thank you. Oh see, Tony surprised me he didn't curse.
I thought I was waiting for I thought he was
gonna be upset because of that monologue about the Bears
and Caleb Williams trashing Chicago and all that. He didn't
do it. It's more shocking when he doesn't say a
bad word than when he does. We've been it's like

(29:12):
Tavlov's Dogs with Tony. We are now trained to expect
profanity from Tony when he calls up, and when he
doesn't give it to us, we're like, what's going on
with that? Eh? Unbelievable? All right? Robin Minnesota says that
Pam call has to be a Benny winner somehow, but

(29:33):
what category. Trey from Tennessee says, Pam is hilarious. Mister
Irrigation says, just let Pam kiss the ring and let
her in. Ferg Dog says, Pam fails. Pam fails. Ferg
Dog says Big Greg. And Iolas is the crew working
on a list of things to do in Vancouver. Yeah,
we've that's about right. We haven't whittled it down, Loraine,

(29:55):
have you whittled down coop. Have you whittled down do
we have like the top two?

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Any options?

Speaker 1 (30:01):
I know? And also how do you decide what to
do on what days with which people? Yeah, Like, we
don't want to hang out together the whole time we
see each other at work. All I'm sure we want
to do something. I want to hang out sometimes with you. Yeah, yeah,
we'll hang out a little bit, but we want to
do our own thing too, So I it is tough.
It is difficult to decide. There's tons of stuff, Like
we're probably gonna have to go back. We're not only

(30:21):
gonna be there a couple of days in Vancouver, so
we're probably gonna have to go back at some point.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
I'm kind of like you where I'm not thinking about
it until it's like upon my doorstep.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm just focusing on the day, whatever day is,
you know, I do I really want to worry about
that when I'm watching a hot Nuggets Thunder game coop,
you know exactly. But it will be a lot of fun.
I'm looking forward to meeting everybody. I've gotten some great
feedback from listeners that are also going to be hanging
out there and planning to be there some people have
been listening to the show for many years. I got

(30:52):
an email from a guy who's listened to the show
for eighteen years, and he's going to be there. He's
all grown up now, Loraina, He's all grown up. And
he started he was in college when he started listening
to the show, and he's all grown up now. He's
gonna be there, And so I'm excited about that. It's
gonna be a lot of a lot of fun. What
else do we have, Eileen Wright, Since says Carl Williams,
LeVar Ball, Dion Sanders, Archie Manning, Marv Marinovich, Huckster's sports

(31:17):
daddies need to butt out. Yeah. Well, the good thing
is that it's not just like usually people say, it's
a pageant. Mom's right, that's the thing pageant moms. But
the dudes do it though. You know. It's like hey daddy,
and there are there are some parents that this is
their way to riches. They didn't make it, maybe they
didn't make the big money, so that how their kids

(31:38):
make it, and that's how they're gonna do it. Uh,
Preller writes and says Pam Froze, she choked like Reggie Miller.
I think she wanted it but just couldn't handle the pressure.
I feel terrible for I think she was actually sad,
says Rob. He's a that's a Padre fan. And Lauren's
fiance by the way, and Casey's dad. That's a problem.

(32:00):
Who wrote it. That's a lot of content right there,
big rig Rob, says Ben. Of all people that I
would guess that would mess up the path, Pam would
not be one of. However, kudos to you, Ben for
sticking to the bylaws and not giving in to the
woke culture and giving Pam a DEI pass to the Yes. No,

(32:21):
we don't. We don't roll like that. You gotta earn it, man,
you gotta earn it. It's not that it's just repeating words.
It's just words, Robin. I think I already read that
one from out all right. It is the Ben Mahler Show.
We're gonna have Mallard the third degree. That'll be coming
up here moment. Let me try to sneak a call.
Let's go to Dog in Connecticut. What's going on? Dog?

(32:41):
You're on the Ben Malor Show on Fox. Hi Dog, Hey,
how's it going Welcome? What's up?

Speaker 6 (32:48):
First time caller? Love you guys show thank you. So
I was gonna say, what's your thoughts on Jalen getting
cold feet in the next game.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
I'm all for it, there, dog, I have no getting
the game. I want to see a game seven. I
want to see a Game seven because the tight tuks
of the New York Naers. I'm a Jalen Brunson fan.
I like Brunson. I didn't think he would be that
good with the Knicks. I liked him in Dallas a
little bit. I thought, well, that was kind of a
fluky thing what he did with the Mavericks. And he's verified.
He's made me look like an idiot with the Knicks.

(33:18):
But I just want to see a game seven. I
want to I want Monday night. I've already I'm going
to plan my menu on Monday night to settle back.
I'll sit on my ass and watch Game seven because
that's what I want. So in order to get a
Game seven, we got to have the Celtics win the
game in Manhattan, and then all you know, Tracy, all
these celebrities, Morgan and you know, all the the front

(33:40):
row people be freaking out there, Ben Stiller, all those
casts will be freaking.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Out Yeah, they all came out, could work to go
to the game.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
They're all lined up, right, Tracy Morgan. If the Knicks
lose at Game seven, Tracy Morgan should puke all over
the court like he did earlier this season, right, he thought,
will Yeah, absolutely, I'm there for now. Did you see that?
Did you see this?

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
I don't know if you saw this story. So Howard
Sterner used to I used to be a huge Stern
fan back back show. Yeah, I was a huge fan
back when he had his fastball back in the dead.
But he told the story about he's gone to a
lot of Nick games over the years. He has not
been at Nick games though, as far as I know,
in this playoff run. And he explained, Uh, he said
the pecking order, how it works. He said, it's front

(34:24):
row or no go. He said that he's not He's
always not a sportsman, Howard Stern. But he said he
would not be at the Garden for a game if
he did not have court side seats. He explained that
they actually have the pecking order, which kind of obvious here,
but the but he laid it out. He said that
he said that the celebrities are seated at Madison Square

(34:45):
Garden based on your celebrity status in the entertainment industry.
That if you're in the second row, you're not that
big anymore. If you in a first row, obviously, if
you're in the second row, he said he's gonna quit
if he has to. If Stern said he's not going
if he has to sit in the second row. He
says he's a first row type person and all that.

(35:05):
So you know what that means. Though, next time I
watch a Knicks game at the Garden, like tonight, Doug,
I'll be seeing who's who's in the second row, and
I'll be like, they're not that important because they're in
the second row.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
Now I'm gonna look, he was in the second row.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, if you're in the second row, you're not that big.
You're not that big a deal. You're in the second row. Yeah,
falling Star. All right, thank you, dog, I gotta go,
but appreciate you, all right, this dog? All right you too.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Man.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
There's Doug checking in from Connecticut. All right to Ben
Maler show. We will press on time now for the
insta Trivia of Mallard of the third degree, The Dodgers,
the Doyers, the Dodgers won by seventeen runs against the
A's on Thursday night in Dalton Rushing's debut. That is
the second largest win by a Dodger player in his

(35:53):
Major League baseball debut since nineteen hundred, behind only Blank
That's the Insta Trivia the answer.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
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Speaker 3 (36:15):
It lie.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Today's Friday, Today's Friday, Today's Friday. Jerk yourself away, cut
that meat you that's a plump pussy right there. Just now.
Oh man, that's our path. That's twenty five thousand dollars outpack.
How about shut up?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Don't worry, don't worry. It's just tay the top.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
I love you? Is you gonna make money?

Speaker 6 (36:42):
You are? The week is like.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
The show is over.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Goodbye.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Now, the show is not over. We're not even at halftime.
We haven't even reached the halftime show. No, no, no,
it is the Ben Malley Show and Bill Miller. That
would be me reminder that this show in its entirety
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(37:13):
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Back there we go, and quick right quickly. Uh, you know,

(38:17):
I think what we're gonna do in this is old
school coop. I think what we're gonna do is. We're
gonna time shift Mallard of the third degree for ratings purposes.
We haven't done that in a while. And I think
kind of a throwback. I think it's a throwback. Yeah,
throwback well Friday. Now, throwback Friday. Yeah, throwback Friday. So
in honor of the old days, flashback Friday. Yeah, flashback Friday. Yeah,

(38:42):
there you go. Remember Tomkis used to have a flash Friday,
whatever it's called. But anyway, here's the insta trivia. The
Dodgers the Doyers. They won by seventeen runs in Dalton
Rushing's debut. That's the second largest win. He's a rookie catcher.
Second largest win in a Dodger player's Major League baseball

(39:02):
debut since nineteen hundred, behind only blank. That is the question.
What is the answer? Let's see, does anyone know in
the Mala Militia the great Unwashed Roy the Mailman says
that great Dodger Juan Mareschal Sandy Alcantara from Eke in Roseville, Minnesota,

(39:24):
Alfalfa from Milkman Mike in Colorado. Who else do we have?
Page down? Benito, the long suffering Cowboy fan says the
answer is my mentor picking with Poppy mad Max, a
guest by Alf the alien o Pliner. That sounds like
a fun fact to me. I might have to use
that as a fun fact. Layer Janet Jackson, who is

(39:45):
fifty ninth today. How about that unbelievable Jason going with
Bob Welch as his answer? Who else do we have?
Page down? George Washington from Mike the Leprechaun, Tommy John
from Rob in Minnesota, who was a guest on my podcast.
I have his number. Do you have an answer? Larray
Do you want God?

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Fine answer? Unfortunately no, it's the great Joe Thurston back
in twenty oh two. That is won by eighteen Joe Thurston.
He was an infielder. He only played one hundred and
eighty four big league games. He wasn't very good.