May 20, 2025 • 40 mins
Ben Maller talks about what it will take to get people jazzed up about the teams in the NBA Conference Finals, why the perception persists that small market teams in the Conference Finals hurts ratings, Maller to the Third Degree, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boom, Shaka laka. It's our number two. Our number two
is ready for you. On the Ben mal Show podcast,
It's an NBA heavy hour two. What will it take
to get people jazzed up for the Knicks, Pacers, Thunder
and Wolves in the Conference finals of the NBA. And
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why does the perception persist that small market teams in
the NBA Conference Finals are just poison for TV ratings,
even though there are examples in the past that show otherwise.
And what impact could this NBA uniform change have to
the tyrese Haliburton Pacers playoff run. I'll explain. That was
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from a listener who sent me an email from Indianapolis.
That and more right now here, it is our number two.
It is a mix and match situation, if there ever
was one. Welcome in the beginning of another hour of
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from the hardwood now. Since the Celtics played gutless basketball
on Friday and were exterminated by the New York Knickerbockers
on that Friday night game, no contest, no fight, just
roll over and play dead, getting the fetal position there,
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so we did not have a Game seven in the
Eastern Conference Semifinals that was supposed to be played on
Monday night. Of course, for that to happen, there needs
to actually be a Game seven. There was no game set,
so instead all the arenas went dark on Monday and
the Day of Reflection. Day of Reflection Conference finals will
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begin here on Tuesday night and a lot of chatter.
And I'm all about the chatter. I'm in the chatter business.
In fact, I live for chatter. So the chatter about
the look of the final four of the NBA. And
if you have not been following, I don't know how
you could have missed all this. But this is not
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your dad's, this is not your grandpa's Conference finals. You've
got the Knicks who have been bad for a generation,
twenty five years of suck. You've got the Pacers who
are there, the Timberwolves and OKC, so not the usual suspects,
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although you say, well, Minnesota and Indiana, okay, still not
used to those teams being in the conference final. And
so some new actors on the stage. And when there's
new actors, you either like the actors you don't like
the actors. Now many are convinced, many the wise people,
the cool kids, are convinced. The lack of the traditional
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superstar player, the lack of the normal French eyeses that
we see in this round of the playoffs, is going
to be bad for the bottom line of basketball. So
let us discuss the question what will it take. I'm
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gonna deputize you as the marketing gurup. So what will
it take to get people jazzed up for Knicks, Pacers
and Thunder and Wolves in the conference finals of the NBA.
So I've got ken Burns, algebra, and SpongeBob and we
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will combine all of these things together and we are
going to make a line drive base hit right up
the gut is what we're gonna make. So numb burn
number get a number, all right. So we obviously do
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not work for the NBA. We are not on the dime,
not in the tank. As far as I know, the
company does not have a deal with the NBA. So
I am not shackled to kiss the tucks of Adam
Silver in the NBA. And this is a their problem,
it's not our problem. But the question for the monologue was, Hey,
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help the NBA out. What is going to get take
to get people all jazz dubbed as a public service
A lot of PSAs get aired when I'm on the
radio overnight, So as a public service announcement, let's help
the NBA out. So it's not about the base. People
mistake this as being about the base. It's not about
the base. It's like a political convention. The political convention
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you're going to fire up the base, but it's not
really about the base, right the basketball hardoh is going
to watch. We're a captive audience, absolutely a captive audience here.
We have a talk show to do every night, so
of course we're gonna watch. It's broadcasting, not narrow casting, unfortunately,
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and there's a narrow window for these these teams. It
is about the undecided voter. They've got to convince the
undecided voter to win the heart, mind, and soul of
the undecided voter here. And when you have the usual suspects,
it's obviously easier. Everyone knows that you You don't even
me to tell you it's easier if you simply toss
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out Steph Curry, Lebron James, somebody like that, players of
that ILK that are in many ways prepackaged and it's
just ready to go. You take it off the shelf
and you're good to go. It's easy to sell that.
The NBA, I assume they have a lot of marketing people,
you know, highly educated marketing people there. I've been, I
walked by I was last time I was in New York.
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I was wandering around in the middle of the night,
which you probably should not do. You could get mugged.
But I'm a big guy, and I was wandering around
and within about a three or four block area of
midtown Manhattan, you have the NBA headquarters, You've got Major
League Baseball, the NFL, and also hockey, although hockey as
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headquarters in Toronto as well, but they're all within like
the Triangle of Sport Doom, all in that area, just
adjacent to Madison Avenue. So they're all and they have
like the top minds and all that stuff. So the
NBA marketing people, you roll up your sleeves here and
it is storytelling, one oh one. That is how you
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close the gap. That's obviously how you close the gap.
And humans are hardwired for stories. We all are. We
learn as kids based on fables and stories, and that's
just the way we are programmed in the matrix, you know,
where it's all part of some weird glitch or something
like that. Anyway, the NBA in the Conference finals, if
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I were in charge, if I were advising them, you
sell the heck out of Anthony Edwards, who's had some success,
although he also loves to talk about his big d
You can sell that as well. There's an crowd that
we're like that. Shay giogas Alexander the former Clipper. Easy
to sell a former Clipper, obviously, Jalen Bruntson, but as
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ken Burns, who's I think done every documentary on PBS
of these ken Burns, the famous documentary filmmaker. He once
said that all story, every story is a is a manipulation. Okay,
every story is a manipulation. That the truth is a
byproduct of the stories, and emotional truth is something that
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you have to build. So the league will leverage, if
you will, the myth building that is required here, manipulation
through highlight reels, social media, sizzle, trying to squeeze out
other campaigns as well, trying to squeeze something out here
and create the legend. Your myth building is essentially what
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you're doing. You're building the myth of these players. And
this is going to be the next group of players
that dominate the NBA, and you got to figure it out.
You gotta like these guys because they're going to be
here every year and and all that, and you have
to hook you have to you have to get your
claws in to the know nothing, uneducated fan that that
not you. I mean, you're listening to a sports talk
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radio show. God, you have highly educated, only the best
and brightest minds. Lorena was telling me that in our
production meeting. She said, Ben, you know, the smartest people
listen to overnight talk radio. And I said, you know what, Loreni,
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I did.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I did. You told me that she educated me in
a production meeting that we had. All right, So page
two here, So why does the perception persist?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Why does the perception persist that small market teams in
the NBA are a death sentence, that they are for television,
that you hurt the TV ratings Here there are examples
in the past where that is not the case, and
it's actually shown otherwise. But why is it that that
perception continues here? And it's it's a numbers situation.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
And I I.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Kind of work barely in TV. I don't even have
the show will be picked up again for season three.
I don't know I have everything yet, so I get
a little taste of it. But it's pretty simple. It's
it's like anything you have a report card, and when
you're in the TV world or the NBA world, it's uh,
it's it's a simple I guess I'll use algebra here.
I'm gonna use some algebra. So as a general rule
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of thumb, basic algebra is H B M plus LF
equals e S, which means big market plus legacy franchise
equals easy street. That's the equation on that. Now, if
you throw in an amazing HP headline player, well then
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you that's even better. And so you have the usual suspects.
You have the usual suspects. When you have them out there,
you can attract the casual fan. It's the you should
talk about the water cooler crowd. I always used to
talk about that. You want the people at the water
cooler when you have nothing to say, or you're in
the elevator and it's that awkward silence. You see the
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game last night, You see what so and so, you
know jack Wagon did last night? You know that kind
of thing. That's what they're looking for. So some more
malor math to give you an idea of what kind
of reach you're going to try to get. Now, the
Knicks are the outlier in this conference finals for the NBA.
You've got the Knicks in the New York City tri
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state area. The population in the Tri State area of
New York City is twenty million people. That's the number
one medium in the United States. So twenty million people
in the Tri state area. If you combine the rest
of the market sizes in the conference finals, what do
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you think the math is on how many people combined
live in If you were to combine, You've got Oklahoma
City metro, Minneapolis Saint Paul Metro, and Indianapolis Metro. If
you combined all of those cities together, I've done the
math on this. It's malad maas so I'm pretty close.
So if you combine all those cities metro population, what
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do you think the total is?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I remember New York's at twenty million, So do you
have a guess in your head? Use your computer like brain,
your calculator in your brain, come up with a number. Again,
I've been to all these cities in my travels over
my time here. So I've been to Oklahoma City, not
much going on there. I love the Twin Cities beautiful,
loved it, wonderful time. I enjoyed my time in Indianapolis.
So if you combine all of those cities, the total
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combined population is reveal answers six million. Six million is
the number. So twenty million live in the Tri state
area with the Knicks and six million total in the
three cit Now listen, that is thirty percent the combined
population of New York. Say they keep in mind, not
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everyone in New York like sports. Not everyone's a Knicks
fan in New York. There's a lot of people from
all over the world that live in that city, in
that area. So there is that, but that's that's the base.
The base is always the people that live in the
city of the team, and that's that's the issue. But again,
it's not my problem. That's their problem. They've got to
figure out. I don't have to figure out. You sell
the stories, all right now. A final point to the
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fashion department, and Mike set me this very upset. Convinced
the NBA Conference Finals are being rigged, that the NBA
is trying to screw over the Indiana Pacers. Mike sent
a message he said he's very upset with us. The
NBA has instructed teams to only use their core uniforms
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in the Conference Finals in the NBA Finals, not the
city edition. The city edition uniforms, which true allowed the
first two rounds of the playoffs. Now what does that
mean in Layman's terms? Uh, it is seen. According to Mike,
he says, the Pacer people are upset, the fans are
upset because the it's a shot. Indiana has been wearing
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these I love this Icy white they're calling sorry, they're
Icy White City Edition jerseys. They've been wearing at in
home games the first two rounds, but those have been outlawed.
They're for boating. You're not You're not allowed to wear
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the Icy White City Edition jersey, according to the big
brother there in the in the NBA. So let me
let me address this from Mike who sent me this email. Uh,
and thank you for listening, Mike. I appreciate that. All right,
So what impact what impact could the NBA uniform mandate
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have for Tyrese Haliburton's Pacers and their player off run?
So I know the line is the clothes maketh the man.
I've heard that, like, that's an old expression, The clothes
maketh the man. My response is, with a capital B, popkiss.
That is my response?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Are you? Are you supposed to have me believe that?
The reason the Pacers played well and and and did
these wonderful things is because of the again Icy White
City edition uniform. Is that like a SpongeBob square pats
like Ferg Dog's favorite mermaid man in SpongeBob where the
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elderly superpowers because of the costume and all that come on.
It's a poppycock, that's what that is. And he played
well or don't play well. And if Jalen Brunson happens
to twist an ankle or Karl Anthony Towns has my
grand headache. And this is a couple of games, you're
in good shape. So either out play the knicks or
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get a really good voodoo doll. And that seems to
have been the formula for the pacers here is it
is often the formula. Just wait for people to fall apart,
to break down, and then you have a chance to advance.
It is the Ben Maler Show. We'll talk about all
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Stay classy, my friends, and we may or may not
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toss around the hot potato. We'll get to that as well,
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we have the play of the day. Is that correct?
Here we have the play of the day. This is
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have no idea, no one's told me, but let's play
it anyway. Here it is the play of the day
and the two one I want to rip tell the
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first baseline, that's it for a Bay said fit could
win it. It's rolling all killing to tie it, so
no high in the win its and it's a walk
off to run double for Jesus Sanchez. Yeah, the Marlins
magic continues in Miami. When I think of Marlin magic,
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you think of Jesus Sancha. So the Marlins walk off
the Cubs and that is the ti Iraq play to day.
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and the Malid Bush a lot to say, many of
them like to hide behind their smartphones, and Ferg Dog
says a plus plus on the Mallard monologue, I love
the SpongeBob shout out, Yeah, thank you. The only reason
(19:39):
I did that is for you, fer Dog. That's it
because I know you always listen. Other than that, no
one really knows who SpongeBob is. Anyone else know who SpongeBob.
Nobody watches SpongeBob. We're all grown ups here, But for
Ferg Dog, that's a big deal. Late Night drug testers
is I think you are short changing the number of
Timberwolf fans. Think of all the Gunners podcasts has added
(20:00):
this year. Yeah, we lost Gunner used to call the show.
He didn't call a show anymore. Have you noticed that
you think you think Gunnar would call up every single day?
Now that the team's in the final four, he hasn't
called up.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
Maybe he's getting anxiety or something because his team is
doing so well.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Eh or he was just lazy. I don't know, haven't.
I guess he's still on social media. Somebody was saying,
but I don't know he's in call show. King Roy says,
the Eastern Conference finals already have the WWE writing their script.
It started last year when Halliburton and Brunson had a
stare down in the squared circle. I would not be
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surprised if there is a chair shot to the back,
or if someone goes through a flaming table staples of
professional wrestling. Let's see here, page down. Brian says, why
do you always call me Brian and instead of big
Daddy Brain? I don't. I don't know what you're talking about, Daddy.
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I don't know what that is. I have no idea.
I can't read that. Let's go with the phones. Let's
say hello to Eeny Meenie, miney Moe. We'll go to
Josh in Vegas. Who's next? Hello, Josh, Welcome?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Hey, what's going on man?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
How are you guys doing out?
Speaker 6 (21:23):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I've been I called in last week. I had a
gripe with the hour three uh shakedown with the count?
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Goodness, here we go.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Yeah, I was I was told you were not interested
with my conversations.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
No, I wasn't impressed. I just don't see the urgency.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
But the whole point of the count is the hass
hah or one ha two ha ha three ha ha ha.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
And you have it on high number four the rain.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Are your thoughts on this development? This guy has a
big problem here. His name is Josh. He thinks that
the there's a great injustice that's going on here on
the show, and he wants to fix the injustice.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
Yes, yes, I do hear it. And you know what
for evidence, let's let's play said drop that you are talking?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
What number is it?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Number?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
So here is?
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Yes, he does the fourth? How this gentleman wants me
to go into the system and fix the haw.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
But I didn't even know that. You know, you ruined that.
Now you've ruined that for me because now every time
I hear that, I want to hear the fourth. Huw
you screwed that. You screwed it for me, dude, why'd
you do that?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I've never called the show before, and I count money
and do you I paid Jack time. So if you
guys change that for me. Every time I got to
pay somebody three thousand dollars, I'll go through one, two, three, four, five, six, seventh, ten.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
How about one.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
You give me one thousand dollars and I will change.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Oh yeah, sh'll just hand you money.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yeah, I can't give you a thousand others because Jack
pons or twelve hundred stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Well you got to win less, isn't it like less
than twelve hundred because you after that you have to
pay taxes on it.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Right, Well, that's the reason I got to pay.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Okay, I got you. Yeah, yeah, how come I haven't
raised the rate. That's the same rate since the seventies, right,
the early.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
It is terrible because I'm muscle the gamberg.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yes, yeah, but with inflation and the downgrade of the dollar,
you'd think they would say, oh, well, let's I'm up
three thousand dollars or something like that. But it's always
twelve mon.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
They're talking about bringing the five thousand. But at the
same time I get cheap month.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't go there.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
But people don't make the tip unless I give them money.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So they took that away. A lot of people lose
their jobs.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Anyway, I got all right, Well there you go. You've
ruined that. You've ruined the count, so thank you. All right, Now,
Lorene can either edit that or we can have the
guy lives in Maine, that's the guy that did the
count voice. If he's listening, he can call back and
do the count again.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
Yes, I'm sure he would love to count again.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I don't mind it, and you know I'm annoyed by
it now he's upset me.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
Look, look what I can do, Ben right number three?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, but they're not going to remember to do that. No,
I will not know you're not.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
But I could.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
You could, but I could well yeah, I mean emphasis
on the I could run on the Boston Marathon. I
could you know I could do? Then? I did do
a marathon one day. I did twenty six point two miles.
It wasn't like an actual race. I just walked around
twenty six miles in one day and the listener sent
me a trophy. That's a lot of walking, Gotta I
got a trophy out of it. Yeah, it is a
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lot of walking, a lot of a lot of watering around.
Is the Ben Malors Show. As we work our way
through the overnight trucker, Joe writes in says he's on
a lonely dark road in Upstate New York. We'll say
hi to my niece. On my younger niece. She goes
to school in Upstate New York. So make sure if
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you go buy some random college campus, make sure to
say hello there. There's a bunch of schools in upstate
New York. So stay classy, my friends. The video has
gone viral New York Nick fans Gone wild, gone wild
and wild and wild and crazy and all that stuff.
So there's two videos that went viral this week. One
was a Indiana Pacer fan that decided to represent his
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team after the Knicks advanced to the conference final. And
this guy was wandering around outside Madison Square Garden wearing
his Indiana Pacer jersey. And what is there always if
you've ever been in New York here, you have to
live there, you know this. But if you walk around
Manhattan at night every night, what is there? Piles of trash? Right,
(25:58):
because they pick up the trash every day and it smells,
and it's really the worst is in August when it's
really humid, hot and the trash is rotting and it's
like sweating from the humidity, and it's just disgusting, and
there's rats everywhere. It's like it's like a horror movie.
So anyway, this was not that, but it was the
trash is out was people started throwing trash at this
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Pacer fan. So that was a viral video. Now what
would lead did you lose a bet? Like, why would
you decide I'm gonna go out in a mob mob
mentality a bunch of knucklehead, drunk nick fans and I'm
gonna go wander around there and in my Pacer jersey?
What could possibly go around? Well, he did go viral
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and and he did not any serious injury, and he
was gifted a free playoff ticket, a couple of free
tickets by Tyrese Haliburton, who made sure to let everyone
know he was giving him free tickets so he could
go to a playoff game there. So well, I guess
that worked out for him. Worked out for him. Now,
Brian Windhorse, who is I don't know. He's a large man.
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He's a very large man. He's a chunky and Brian
Winhorse is a television commentator, not a good one. But
he was wandering outside the Manhattan studio of their Madison
Square garden and the Nick fans were talking to him
and insulting him, and then they were throwing garbage at him.
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So that two instances the New York nick names. If
you're a Nick fan and you're like in your early thirties,
you don't remember really the last time the Knicks were
even in the Conference final. It's been twenty five years,
so you got to be in your mid thirties too
above to have remembered the Knicks even getting to this point.
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And God forbid, God helped New York City if the
Knicks end up winning the championship, Holy crap man alive. Okay, anyway,
it is the Ben Maler Show. Let's go back to
the phone. Charlie. It's all Charlie all the time. This
is not that Charlie and Wisconsin. This is the other
Charlie who's got many nicknames here on this show. You
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remember your nickname, Charlie.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Chit Chat Charlie, I'm royal flesh Charlie.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
That's right. And the Dallas Dumper. You got a lot
of nicknames. For God, it's only called the show A
couple of times Royal flush Charlie.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Right there, So my Dallas Stars.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That's right, you own a lot of people don't know this,
but Charlie is the youngest owner in the NHL. He
actually owns the Dallas Stars. Ye, congratulations on that. Can
I get free? Can I get free tickets? Can I
get free tickets? Come on, Charlie. You know I love
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that the sigh that makes the call. Doesn't that make
the call?
Speaker 8 (29:09):
The SI definitely one of the best parts of Charlie's phone.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Calls, the raw emotion of Charlie.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
You know, the sigh in the bathroom specifically though.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
It's it's yeah, I like when you were playing you're
playing koy with us, You're like, oh, I'm not in
the bathroom. No, No, I like that. That's a lot
of fun. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Well, I've got predictions.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Oh man, that's a drop right there, Lorena, I think
that's a drop. I got predictions. That's a drop. Come on,
you know that's a drop. Go ahead, trow, I cannot wait.
I was actually telling Coop when I was making the
long drive in, I said, Coop, I hope Charlie calls
up with some predictions. Can you make that happen. Coop said,
I'll produce that. I'll make that happen. So here we are.
My dreams have come true. My god, how lucky am I?
Speaker 6 (29:57):
The Thunder will win the series games?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
All send that out coup on social media. Charlie the
Dallas Dumper, the Royal Flush. Charlie is calling a shot
right now that the that's right, chit chat, chit chat.
Charlie also the Thunder and said, what else? Nicks and Pacers?
Who you got there?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Seven games? Bot series? Seven games? Amazing? How amazing that
will be?
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yes it is.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Are you always a funny Charlie? Or you just saved
the humor for us?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Is that.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
You just I can be funny, but I kind of timidate.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It for y'all. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that kind
of you to do that, and all the people won't
do it this portion of the show. By the way, Charlie,
you know we have a sponsor. Did you know that
we have sponsors? People that pay money to advertise on
the show. Isn't that amazing?
Speaker 6 (30:59):
I didn't tell you have a sponsor.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
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(31:24):
other final takes here, Charlie, anything else? Yes, No, there's more,
but wait, there's more.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
One final prediction?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Oh man, I can't wait the drama. This is so
exciting here, the raw emotion of Charlie giving another Is
this a hockey prediction?
Speaker 6 (31:42):
How do you know?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I'm a psychic. I'm a distant relative of Nostradamus and
friend of Nostradinas. I've met him. He lives in Seattle.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Bro, My Dallas Stars are going to beat the Oilers
in seven games.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Wow, did not expect you to pick the Dallas Stars.
Did not have that on my big board.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Okay, stop lying.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Okay, now he's calling me a liar. Charlie's calling me
a liar. Man, All right, I gotta go. How do
you feel about the other, Charlie, Charlie and Charlie, We
should get you guys on the air. At the same
time of Charlie and Charlie on the.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Air actually meant to mention that I would definitely love
to do that, Like, yeah, he'd be like.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
A big brother to you because you're you're about the
age he was when he started listening to the show
and now he's in college.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Crazy.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Also, my Dallas Stars are going to win the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Okay, I gotta go, thank you. All right. There's Charlie,
the Dallas Stopper, the Royal Flush Charlie and chit Chat Charlie,
three nicknames, one caller, Go to bed, Charlie, you got school,
go to bed, Go to bed, now, go to bed?
Yeah all right, Ben malays show. We are rolling on
through the overnight and the fashion faux Paul laundry story.
(33:04):
Jalen Williams of the Oklahoma City Thunder he got put
into the penalty box. What did he do? He wore
a shirt postgame that said, I can't say this word,
but it kind of sounds like Eddie used to do
a show about the puck and but this is not
(33:26):
that some word that starts with F and then it
was f art Let's dance. He wore that to the
news conference. And how many dollars was he fined? Lorraina,
how much do you think that shirt. Wearing clothing with
profane language and a postgame media session cost NBA basketball
player Jalen Williams, who wore a shirt that said, f
(33:49):
art Let's dance.
Speaker 8 (33:51):
I'm gonna say sixty five thousand.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Ben, all right, Troop Belop, I'm gonna go fifty thousand.
All right, your boff wrote the guy you wrote the game.
It's twenty five thousand. You ruin my game. Bad job
by you, twenty five That seems like a lot. Twenty
five thousand dollars. The fine is the biggest that Jalen
Williams has received. The other five fins about like two
(34:16):
thousand dollars each for technical files. So the NFL, the NFL,
the NBA clearly does not think f art Let's dance.
They think that's expensive. It is the Ben Mahler Show.
As we are working away through the overnight. Coming up,
we will have Malard of the thirty three. Here is
the Insta trivia, and here it is the we actually
played the highlight earlier Miami Marlins catcher Jyesue's Sanchez becoming
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the first player with a leadoff homer and a walk
off RBI in the same game since blank. That happened
in a while Miami Marlin jes Sus Sanchez the first
player with a leadoff homer and a walk off RBI
in the same game. Since blank that it is the
inchta trivia the answer. We'll get to it and we
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Sue Sanchez becoming the first player with a leadoff homer
and a walk off RBI in the same game since blank,
That is the question. What is the answer? Malaprop Guy says,
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Alf the alien Opiner is the answer? Alf hitting a
ball over the over the monster.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
What do we have here?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Milkman Mike has a new nickname for Charlie Kilby. Overis
good name from DJ Spin, former Marlin, former Padre Bust Rhymes,
who is fifty three today from Late Night Drug tester.
The Diminutive Hack Wilson and his size five feet still
one of the great baseball fun facts. He has the
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record for runs batted in a season, Hack Wilson, Bob
Yucker from King Rory, Johnny Damon Guests by Eke and Roseville, Minnesota,
mister irrigation going with Minnesota legend Rusty Koontz. Let make
sure I say that right. Who else we have private
sham from Big reg and Iowa page down JT of
a wingman or Buddy j T going with Mets legend,
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Hojo Howard Johnson, John Cruck to misplaced San Diego.
Speaker 8 (37:38):
What say you, lay, I don't think he's done it
since nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Ben, Huh, that's a terrible answer. The answer is Alex
Gordon twenty thirteen, sixteen ninety seven.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
To the third degree. This is gets Grell.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, Larea, I never do numbers because that's terrible to
read numbers on the radio. So I will never have
an instant trivia or who am I am with number here?
Speaker 8 (38:16):
I thought you were being clever.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Oh all right, shut up, plan wow ceedee.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Lamb said in a recent interview that he does not
view George Pickens as a number two receiver.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Quote, it ain't no ab, none of that. It's one Ben.
Do the Cowboys have two number one receivers?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
No, There will be one receiver that gets the ball
more than the other receiver, and that will be the
number receiver. This is gonna be great talk radio. I
am here for it. I've got my popcorn ready, I
got my butter wet ready, I got my candy. It
is going to be great because maybe even in training camp,
but if not training camp by week three or four,
(38:58):
this is going to go come boom, and I'm there
for it.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
Next, Bill Simmons believes he has figured out a great
trade for the Milwaukee Bucks, a player for player trade
with the Cleveland Calves for Evan Mobley.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
And Giannis and Tenna Koombo.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Simmons points out that while Giannis is a better player,
Mobley is six and a half years younger, and.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
They would work out for everybody. Yeah, Ben, how do
you feel about this trade? Yeah? First of all, there
is no great trade. If Yannis is leaving Milwaukee, it
doesn't matter what you're getting back, It is not going
to be a great trade. No one's gonna buy a
ticket to watch Evan Mobley play basketball in Milwaukee. So
the moment you get rid of Yannis, you're saying bye
bye to trying to win. So there's no great trade
(39:41):
for Giannis. That's bullcrap.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Next, I wasn't that long ago that Tom tibdau Ha
was talked about as being on the hot seat, and
now he and the Knicks are about to host the
Eastern Conference Finals. Ben, do you think that this has
secured TIB's future with the Knicks?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Well, no, it's New York and if the Knicks get
run off the court by the Pacers, it'll be back
on the hot season. As long as they win and
they don't get blown out, he'll be fine. How'd we
do you pass this edition? Nineteen ninety seven? Lreeda ninety seven,
nineteen ninety seven, Leda ninety seven, The great number ninety se.
I wasn't even live then. Ninety seven. My god,
Boom, Shaka laka. It's our number two. Our number two
is ready for you. On the Ben mal Show podcast,
It's an NBA heavy hour two. What will it take
to get people jazzed up for the Knicks, Pacers, Thunder
and Wolves in the Conference finals of the NBA. And
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why does the perception persist that small market teams in
the NBA Conference Finals are just poison for TV ratings,
even though there are examples in the past that show otherwise.
And what impact could this NBA uniform change have to
the tyrese Haliburton Pacers playoff run. I'll explain. That was
(00:43):
from a listener who sent me an email from Indianapolis.
That and more right now here, it is our number two.
It is a mix and match situation, if there ever
was one. Welcome in the beginning of another hour of
the Ben Mallor Show.
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from the hardwood now. Since the Celtics played gutless basketball
on Friday and were exterminated by the New York Knickerbockers
on that Friday night game, no contest, no fight, just
roll over and play dead, getting the fetal position there,
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so we did not have a Game seven in the
Eastern Conference Semifinals that was supposed to be played on
Monday night. Of course, for that to happen, there needs
to actually be a Game seven. There was no game set,
so instead all the arenas went dark on Monday and
the Day of Reflection. Day of Reflection Conference finals will
(02:47):
begin here on Tuesday night and a lot of chatter.
And I'm all about the chatter. I'm in the chatter business.
In fact, I live for chatter. So the chatter about
the look of the final four of the NBA. And
if you have not been following, I don't know how
you could have missed all this. But this is not
(03:09):
your dad's, this is not your grandpa's Conference finals. You've
got the Knicks who have been bad for a generation,
twenty five years of suck. You've got the Pacers who
are there, the Timberwolves and OKC, so not the usual suspects,
(03:31):
although you say, well, Minnesota and Indiana, okay, still not
used to those teams being in the conference final. And
so some new actors on the stage. And when there's
new actors, you either like the actors you don't like
the actors. Now many are convinced, many the wise people,
the cool kids, are convinced. The lack of the traditional
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superstar player, the lack of the normal French eyeses that
we see in this round of the playoffs, is going
to be bad for the bottom line of basketball. So
let us discuss the question what will it take. I'm
(04:15):
gonna deputize you as the marketing gurup. So what will
it take to get people jazzed up for Knicks, Pacers
and Thunder and Wolves in the conference finals of the NBA.
So I've got ken Burns, algebra, and SpongeBob and we
(04:36):
will combine all of these things together and we are
going to make a line drive base hit right up
the gut is what we're gonna make. So numb burn
number get a number, all right. So we obviously do
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not work for the NBA. We are not on the dime,
not in the tank. As far as I know, the
company does not have a deal with the NBA. So
I am not shackled to kiss the tucks of Adam
Silver in the NBA. And this is a their problem,
it's not our problem. But the question for the monologue was, Hey,
(05:17):
help the NBA out. What is going to get take
to get people all jazz dubbed as a public service
A lot of PSAs get aired when I'm on the
radio overnight, So as a public service announcement, let's help
the NBA out. So it's not about the base. People
mistake this as being about the base. It's not about
the base. It's like a political convention. The political convention
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you're going to fire up the base, but it's not
really about the base, right the basketball hardoh is going
to watch. We're a captive audience, absolutely a captive audience here.
We have a talk show to do every night, so
of course we're gonna watch. It's broadcasting, not narrow casting, unfortunately,
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and there's a narrow window for these these teams. It
is about the undecided voter. They've got to convince the
undecided voter to win the heart, mind, and soul of
the undecided voter here. And when you have the usual suspects,
it's obviously easier. Everyone knows that you You don't even
me to tell you it's easier if you simply toss
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out Steph Curry, Lebron James, somebody like that, players of
that ILK that are in many ways prepackaged and it's
just ready to go. You take it off the shelf
and you're good to go. It's easy to sell that.
The NBA, I assume they have a lot of marketing people,
you know, highly educated marketing people there. I've been, I
walked by I was last time I was in New York.
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I was wandering around in the middle of the night,
which you probably should not do. You could get mugged.
But I'm a big guy, and I was wandering around
and within about a three or four block area of
midtown Manhattan, you have the NBA headquarters, You've got Major
League Baseball, the NFL, and also hockey, although hockey as
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headquarters in Toronto as well, but they're all within like
the Triangle of Sport Doom, all in that area, just
adjacent to Madison Avenue. So they're all and they have
like the top minds and all that stuff. So the
NBA marketing people, you roll up your sleeves here and
it is storytelling, one oh one. That is how you
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close the gap. That's obviously how you close the gap.
And humans are hardwired for stories. We all are. We
learn as kids based on fables and stories, and that's
just the way we are programmed in the matrix, you know,
where it's all part of some weird glitch or something
like that. Anyway, the NBA in the Conference finals, if
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I were in charge, if I were advising them, you
sell the heck out of Anthony Edwards, who's had some success,
although he also loves to talk about his big d
You can sell that as well. There's an crowd that
we're like that. Shay giogas Alexander the former Clipper. Easy
to sell a former Clipper, obviously, Jalen Bruntson, but as
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ken Burns, who's I think done every documentary on PBS
of these ken Burns, the famous documentary filmmaker. He once
said that all story, every story is a is a manipulation. Okay,
every story is a manipulation. That the truth is a
byproduct of the stories, and emotional truth is something that
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you have to build. So the league will leverage, if
you will, the myth building that is required here, manipulation
through highlight reels, social media, sizzle, trying to squeeze out
other campaigns as well, trying to squeeze something out here
and create the legend. Your myth building is essentially what
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you're doing. You're building the myth of these players. And
this is going to be the next group of players
that dominate the NBA, and you got to figure it out.
You gotta like these guys because they're going to be
here every year and and all that, and you have
to hook you have to you have to get your
claws in to the know nothing, uneducated fan that that
not you. I mean, you're listening to a sports talk
(09:14):
radio show. God, you have highly educated, only the best
and brightest minds. Lorena was telling me that in our
production meeting. She said, Ben, you know, the smartest people
listen to overnight talk radio. And I said, you know what, Loreni,
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I did.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I did. You told me that she educated me in
a production meeting that we had. All right, So page
two here, So why does the perception persist?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Why does the perception persist that small market teams in
the NBA are a death sentence, that they are for television,
that you hurt the TV ratings Here there are examples
in the past where that is not the case, and
it's actually shown otherwise. But why is it that that
perception continues here? And it's it's a numbers situation.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
And I I.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Kind of work barely in TV. I don't even have
the show will be picked up again for season three.
I don't know I have everything yet, so I get
a little taste of it. But it's pretty simple. It's
it's like anything you have a report card, and when
you're in the TV world or the NBA world, it's uh,
it's it's a simple I guess I'll use algebra here.
I'm gonna use some algebra. So as a general rule
(10:27):
of thumb, basic algebra is H B M plus LF
equals e S, which means big market plus legacy franchise
equals easy street. That's the equation on that. Now, if
you throw in an amazing HP headline player, well then
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you that's even better. And so you have the usual suspects.
You have the usual suspects. When you have them out there,
you can attract the casual fan. It's the you should
talk about the water cooler crowd. I always used to
talk about that. You want the people at the water
cooler when you have nothing to say, or you're in
the elevator and it's that awkward silence. You see the
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game last night, You see what so and so, you
know jack Wagon did last night? You know that kind
of thing. That's what they're looking for. So some more
malor math to give you an idea of what kind
of reach you're going to try to get. Now, the
Knicks are the outlier in this conference finals for the NBA.
You've got the Knicks in the New York City tri
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state area. The population in the Tri State area of
New York City is twenty million people. That's the number
one medium in the United States. So twenty million people
in the Tri state area. If you combine the rest
of the market sizes in the conference finals, what do
(11:55):
you think the math is on how many people combined
live in If you were to combine, You've got Oklahoma
City metro, Minneapolis Saint Paul Metro, and Indianapolis Metro. If
you combined all of those cities together, I've done the
math on this. It's malad maas so I'm pretty close.
So if you combine all those cities metro population, what
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do you think the total is?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I remember New York's at twenty million, So do you
have a guess in your head? Use your computer like brain,
your calculator in your brain, come up with a number. Again,
I've been to all these cities in my travels over
my time here. So I've been to Oklahoma City, not
much going on there. I love the Twin Cities beautiful,
loved it, wonderful time. I enjoyed my time in Indianapolis.
So if you combine all of those cities, the total
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combined population is reveal answers six million. Six million is
the number. So twenty million live in the Tri state
area with the Knicks and six million total in the
three cit Now listen, that is thirty percent the combined
population of New York. Say they keep in mind, not
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everyone in New York like sports. Not everyone's a Knicks
fan in New York. There's a lot of people from
all over the world that live in that city, in
that area. So there is that, but that's that's the base.
The base is always the people that live in the
city of the team, and that's that's the issue. But again,
it's not my problem. That's their problem. They've got to
figure out. I don't have to figure out. You sell
the stories, all right now. A final point to the
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fashion department, and Mike set me this very upset. Convinced
the NBA Conference Finals are being rigged, that the NBA
is trying to screw over the Indiana Pacers. Mike sent
a message he said he's very upset with us. The
NBA has instructed teams to only use their core uniforms
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in the Conference Finals in the NBA Finals, not the
city edition. The city edition uniforms, which true allowed the
first two rounds of the playoffs. Now what does that
mean in Layman's terms? Uh, it is seen. According to Mike,
he says, the Pacer people are upset, the fans are
upset because the it's a shot. Indiana has been wearing
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these I love this Icy white they're calling sorry, they're
Icy White City Edition jerseys. They've been wearing at in
home games the first two rounds, but those have been outlawed.
They're for boating. You're not You're not allowed to wear
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the Icy White City Edition jersey, according to the big
brother there in the in the NBA. So let me
let me address this from Mike who sent me this email. Uh,
and thank you for listening, Mike. I appreciate that. All right,
So what impact what impact could the NBA uniform mandate
(14:56):
have for Tyrese Haliburton's Pacers and their player off run?
So I know the line is the clothes maketh the man.
I've heard that, like, that's an old expression, The clothes
maketh the man. My response is, with a capital B, popkiss.
That is my response?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Are you? Are you supposed to have me believe that?
The reason the Pacers played well and and and did
these wonderful things is because of the again Icy White
City edition uniform. Is that like a SpongeBob square pats
like Ferg Dog's favorite mermaid man in SpongeBob where the
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elderly superpowers because of the costume and all that come on.
It's a poppycock, that's what that is. And he played
well or don't play well. And if Jalen Brunson happens
to twist an ankle or Karl Anthony Towns has my
grand headache. And this is a couple of games, you're
in good shape. So either out play the knicks or
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get a really good voodoo doll. And that seems to
have been the formula for the pacers here is it
is often the formula. Just wait for people to fall apart,
to break down, and then you have a chance to advance.
It is the Ben Maler Show. We'll talk about all
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we have the play of the day. Is that correct?
Here we have the play of the day. This is
very exciting. I don't even know what it is. I
have no idea, no one's told me, but let's play
it anyway. Here it is the play of the day
and the two one I want to rip tell the
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first baseline, that's it for a Bay said fit could
win it. It's rolling all killing to tie it, so
no high in the win its and it's a walk
off to run double for Jesus Sanchez. Yeah, the Marlins
magic continues in Miami. When I think of Marlin magic,
(18:50):
you think of Jesus Sancha. So the Marlins walk off
the Cubs and that is the ti Iraq play to day.
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calls the Marlins take Down the Cubs, Down Go the Cubs,
and the Malid Bush a lot to say, many of
them like to hide behind their smartphones, and Ferg Dog
says a plus plus on the Mallard monologue, I love
the SpongeBob shout out, Yeah, thank you. The only reason
(19:39):
I did that is for you, fer Dog. That's it
because I know you always listen. Other than that, no
one really knows who SpongeBob is. Anyone else know who SpongeBob.
Nobody watches SpongeBob. We're all grown ups here, But for
Ferg Dog, that's a big deal. Late Night drug testers
is I think you are short changing the number of
Timberwolf fans. Think of all the Gunners podcasts has added
(20:00):
this year. Yeah, we lost Gunner used to call the show.
He didn't call a show anymore. Have you noticed that
you think you think Gunnar would call up every single day?
Now that the team's in the final four, he hasn't
called up.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
Maybe he's getting anxiety or something because his team is
doing so well.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Eh or he was just lazy. I don't know, haven't.
I guess he's still on social media. Somebody was saying,
but I don't know he's in call show. King Roy says,
the Eastern Conference finals already have the WWE writing their script.
It started last year when Halliburton and Brunson had a
stare down in the squared circle. I would not be
(20:41):
surprised if there is a chair shot to the back,
or if someone goes through a flaming table staples of
professional wrestling. Let's see here, page down. Brian says, why
do you always call me Brian and instead of big
Daddy Brain? I don't. I don't know what you're talking about, Daddy.
(21:05):
I don't know what that is. I have no idea.
I can't read that. Let's go with the phones. Let's
say hello to Eeny Meenie, miney Moe. We'll go to
Josh in Vegas. Who's next? Hello, Josh, Welcome?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Hey, what's going on man?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
How are you guys doing out?
Speaker 6 (21:23):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I've been I called in last week. I had a
gripe with the hour three uh shakedown with the count?
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Goodness, here we go.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Yeah, I was I was told you were not interested
with my conversations.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
No, I wasn't impressed. I just don't see the urgency.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
But the whole point of the count is the hass
hah or one ha two ha ha three ha ha ha.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
And you have it on high number four the rain.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Are your thoughts on this development? This guy has a
big problem here. His name is Josh. He thinks that
the there's a great injustice that's going on here on
the show, and he wants to fix the injustice.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
Yes, yes, I do hear it. And you know what
for evidence, let's let's play said drop that you are talking?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
What number is it?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Number?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
So here is?
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Yes, he does the fourth? How this gentleman wants me
to go into the system and fix the haw.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
But I didn't even know that. You know, you ruined that.
Now you've ruined that for me because now every time
I hear that, I want to hear the fourth. Huw
you screwed that. You screwed it for me, dude, why'd
you do that?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
I've never called the show before, and I count money
and do you I paid Jack time. So if you
guys change that for me. Every time I got to
pay somebody three thousand dollars, I'll go through one, two, three, four, five, six, seventh, ten.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
How about one.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
You give me one thousand dollars and I will change.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Oh yeah, sh'll just hand you money.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yeah, I can't give you a thousand others because Jack
pons or twelve hundred stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Well you got to win less, isn't it like less
than twelve hundred because you after that you have to
pay taxes on it.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Right, Well, that's the reason I got to pay.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Okay, I got you. Yeah, yeah, how come I haven't
raised the rate. That's the same rate since the seventies, right,
the early.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
It is terrible because I'm muscle the gamberg.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yes, yeah, but with inflation and the downgrade of the dollar,
you'd think they would say, oh, well, let's I'm up
three thousand dollars or something like that. But it's always
twelve mon.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
They're talking about bringing the five thousand. But at the
same time I get cheap month.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't go there.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
But people don't make the tip unless I give them money.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So they took that away. A lot of people lose
their jobs.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Anyway, I got all right, Well there you go. You've
ruined that. You've ruined the count, so thank you. All right, Now,
Lorene can either edit that or we can have the
guy lives in Maine, that's the guy that did the
count voice. If he's listening, he can call back and
do the count again.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
Yes, I'm sure he would love to count again.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I don't mind it, and you know I'm annoyed by
it now he's upset me.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
Look, look what I can do, Ben right number three?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, but they're not going to remember to do that. No,
I will not know you're not.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
But I could.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
You could, but I could well yeah, I mean emphasis
on the I could run on the Boston Marathon. I
could you know I could do? Then? I did do
a marathon one day. I did twenty six point two miles.
It wasn't like an actual race. I just walked around
twenty six miles in one day and the listener sent
me a trophy. That's a lot of walking, Gotta I
got a trophy out of it. Yeah, it is a
(24:50):
lot of walking, a lot of a lot of watering around.
Is the Ben Malors Show. As we work our way
through the overnight trucker, Joe writes in says he's on
a lonely dark road in Upstate New York. We'll say
hi to my niece. On my younger niece. She goes
to school in Upstate New York. So make sure if
(25:11):
you go buy some random college campus, make sure to
say hello there. There's a bunch of schools in upstate
New York. So stay classy, my friends. The video has
gone viral New York Nick fans Gone wild, gone wild
and wild and wild and crazy and all that stuff.
So there's two videos that went viral this week. One
was a Indiana Pacer fan that decided to represent his
(25:35):
team after the Knicks advanced to the conference final. And
this guy was wandering around outside Madison Square Garden wearing
his Indiana Pacer jersey. And what is there always if
you've ever been in New York here, you have to
live there, you know this. But if you walk around
Manhattan at night every night, what is there? Piles of trash? Right,
(25:58):
because they pick up the trash every day and it smells,
and it's really the worst is in August when it's
really humid, hot and the trash is rotting and it's
like sweating from the humidity, and it's just disgusting, and
there's rats everywhere. It's like it's like a horror movie.
So anyway, this was not that, but it was the
trash is out was people started throwing trash at this
(26:20):
Pacer fan. So that was a viral video. Now what
would lead did you lose a bet? Like, why would
you decide I'm gonna go out in a mob mob
mentality a bunch of knucklehead, drunk nick fans and I'm
gonna go wander around there and in my Pacer jersey?
What could possibly go around? Well, he did go viral
(26:40):
and and he did not any serious injury, and he
was gifted a free playoff ticket, a couple of free
tickets by Tyrese Haliburton, who made sure to let everyone
know he was giving him free tickets so he could
go to a playoff game there. So well, I guess
that worked out for him. Worked out for him. Now,
Brian Windhorse, who is I don't know. He's a large man.
(27:05):
He's a very large man. He's a chunky and Brian
Winhorse is a television commentator, not a good one. But
he was wandering outside the Manhattan studio of their Madison
Square garden and the Nick fans were talking to him
and insulting him, and then they were throwing garbage at him.
(27:27):
So that two instances the New York nick names. If
you're a Nick fan and you're like in your early thirties,
you don't remember really the last time the Knicks were
even in the Conference final. It's been twenty five years,
so you got to be in your mid thirties too
above to have remembered the Knicks even getting to this point.
(27:49):
And God forbid, God helped New York City if the
Knicks end up winning the championship, Holy crap man alive. Okay, anyway,
it is the Ben Maler Show. Let's go back to
the phone. Charlie. It's all Charlie all the time. This
is not that Charlie and Wisconsin. This is the other
Charlie who's got many nicknames here on this show. You
(28:09):
remember your nickname, Charlie.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Chit Chat Charlie, I'm royal flesh Charlie.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
That's right. And the Dallas Dumper. You got a lot
of nicknames. For God, it's only called the show A
couple of times Royal flush Charlie.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Right there, So my Dallas Stars.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That's right, you own a lot of people don't know this,
but Charlie is the youngest owner in the NHL. He
actually owns the Dallas Stars. Ye, congratulations on that. Can
I get free? Can I get free tickets? Can I
get free tickets? Come on, Charlie. You know I love
(29:05):
that the sigh that makes the call. Doesn't that make
the call?
Speaker 8 (29:09):
The SI definitely one of the best parts of Charlie's phone.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Calls, the raw emotion of Charlie.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
You know, the sigh in the bathroom specifically though.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
It's it's yeah, I like when you were playing you're
playing koy with us, You're like, oh, I'm not in
the bathroom. No, No, I like that. That's a lot
of fun. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Well, I've got predictions.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Oh man, that's a drop right there, Lorena, I think
that's a drop. I got predictions. That's a drop. Come on,
you know that's a drop. Go ahead, trow, I cannot wait.
I was actually telling Coop when I was making the
long drive in, I said, Coop, I hope Charlie calls
up with some predictions. Can you make that happen. Coop said,
I'll produce that. I'll make that happen. So here we are.
My dreams have come true. My god, how lucky am I?
Speaker 6 (29:57):
The Thunder will win the series games?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
All send that out coup on social media. Charlie the
Dallas Dumper, the Royal Flush. Charlie is calling a shot
right now that the that's right, chit chat, chit chat.
Charlie also the Thunder and said, what else? Nicks and Pacers?
Who you got there?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Seven games? Bot series? Seven games? Amazing? How amazing that
will be?
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yes it is.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Are you always a funny Charlie? Or you just saved
the humor for us?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Is that.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
You just I can be funny, but I kind of timidate.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It for y'all. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that kind
of you to do that, and all the people won't
do it this portion of the show. By the way, Charlie,
you know we have a sponsor. Did you know that
we have sponsors? People that pay money to advertise on
the show. Isn't that amazing?
Speaker 6 (30:59):
I didn't tell you have a sponsor.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, yeah, well this is not really for you because
you're not quite old enough for this. But Express Employment
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Our sweet spot is logistics roles and Express never charges
job seekers if we go to expresspros dot Com. Any
(31:24):
other final takes here, Charlie, anything else? Yes, No, there's more,
but wait, there's more.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
One final prediction?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Oh man, I can't wait the drama. This is so
exciting here, the raw emotion of Charlie giving another Is
this a hockey prediction?
Speaker 6 (31:42):
How do you know?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I'm a psychic. I'm a distant relative of Nostradamus and
friend of Nostradinas. I've met him. He lives in Seattle.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Bro, My Dallas Stars are going to beat the Oilers
in seven games.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Wow, did not expect you to pick the Dallas Stars.
Did not have that on my big board.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Okay, stop lying.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Okay, now he's calling me a liar. Charlie's calling me
a liar. Man, All right, I gotta go. How do
you feel about the other, Charlie, Charlie and Charlie, We
should get you guys on the air. At the same
time of Charlie and Charlie on the.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Air actually meant to mention that I would definitely love
to do that, Like, yeah, he'd be like.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
A big brother to you because you're you're about the
age he was when he started listening to the show
and now he's in college.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Crazy.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Also, my Dallas Stars are going to win the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Okay, I gotta go, thank you. All right. There's Charlie,
the Dallas Stopper, the Royal Flush Charlie and chit Chat Charlie,
three nicknames, one caller, Go to bed, Charlie, you got school,
go to bed, Go to bed, now, go to bed?
Yeah all right, Ben malays show. We are rolling on
through the overnight and the fashion faux Paul laundry story.
(33:04):
Jalen Williams of the Oklahoma City Thunder he got put
into the penalty box. What did he do? He wore
a shirt postgame that said, I can't say this word,
but it kind of sounds like Eddie used to do
a show about the puck and but this is not
(33:26):
that some word that starts with F and then it
was f art Let's dance. He wore that to the
news conference. And how many dollars was he fined? Lorraina,
how much do you think that shirt. Wearing clothing with
profane language and a postgame media session cost NBA basketball
player Jalen Williams, who wore a shirt that said, f
(33:49):
art Let's dance.
Speaker 8 (33:51):
I'm gonna say sixty five thousand.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Ben, all right, Troop Belop, I'm gonna go fifty thousand.
All right, your boff wrote the guy you wrote the game.
It's twenty five thousand. You ruin my game. Bad job
by you, twenty five That seems like a lot. Twenty
five thousand dollars. The fine is the biggest that Jalen
Williams has received. The other five fins about like two
(34:16):
thousand dollars each for technical files. So the NFL, the NFL,
the NBA clearly does not think f art Let's dance.
They think that's expensive. It is the Ben Mahler Show.
As we are working away through the overnight. Coming up,
we will have Malard of the thirty three. Here is
the Insta trivia, and here it is the we actually
played the highlight earlier Miami Marlins catcher Jyesue's Sanchez becoming
(34:42):
the first player with a leadoff homer and a walk
off RBI in the same game since blank. That happened
in a while Miami Marlin jes Sus Sanchez the first
player with a leadoff homer and a walk off RBI
in the same game. Since blank that it is the
inchta trivia the answer. We'll get to it and we
(35:03):
will do it next.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
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Speaker 1 (35:19):
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All right back to it we go, and time now
(36:20):
for the Insta Tribute with Mallard the third Degree on
deck and here is the Insta Tribua Miami Marlin Hey
Sue Sanchez becoming the first player with a leadoff homer
and a walk off RBI in the same game since blank,
That is the question. What is the answer? Malaprop Guy says,
(36:42):
Alf the alien Opiner is the answer? Alf hitting a
ball over the over the monster.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
What do we have here?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Milkman Mike has a new nickname for Charlie Kilby. Overis
good name from DJ Spin, former Marlin, former Padre Bust Rhymes,
who is fifty three today from Late Night Drug tester.
The Diminutive Hack Wilson and his size five feet still
one of the great baseball fun facts. He has the
(37:13):
record for runs batted in a season, Hack Wilson, Bob
Yucker from King Rory, Johnny Damon Guests by Eke and Roseville, Minnesota,
mister irrigation going with Minnesota legend Rusty Koontz. Let make
sure I say that right. Who else we have private
sham from Big reg and Iowa page down JT of
a wingman or Buddy j T going with Mets legend,
(37:35):
Hojo Howard Johnson, John Cruck to misplaced San Diego.
Speaker 8 (37:38):
What say you, lay, I don't think he's done it
since nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Ben, Huh, that's a terrible answer. The answer is Alex
Gordon twenty thirteen, sixteen ninety seven.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
To the third degree. This is gets Grell.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, Larea, I never do numbers because that's terrible to
read numbers on the radio. So I will never have
an instant trivia or who am I am with number here?
Speaker 8 (38:16):
I thought you were being clever.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Oh all right, shut up, plan wow ceedee.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Lamb said in a recent interview that he does not
view George Pickens as a number two receiver.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Quote, it ain't no ab, none of that. It's one Ben.
Do the Cowboys have two number one receivers?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
No, There will be one receiver that gets the ball
more than the other receiver, and that will be the
number receiver. This is gonna be great talk radio. I
am here for it. I've got my popcorn ready, I
got my butter wet ready, I got my candy. It
is going to be great because maybe even in training camp,
but if not training camp by week three or four,
(38:58):
this is going to go come boom, and I'm there
for it.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
Next, Bill Simmons believes he has figured out a great
trade for the Milwaukee Bucks, a player for player trade
with the Cleveland Calves for Evan Mobley.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
And Giannis and Tenna Koombo.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Simmons points out that while Giannis is a better player,
Mobley is six and a half years younger, and.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
They would work out for everybody. Yeah, Ben, how do
you feel about this trade? Yeah? First of all, there
is no great trade. If Yannis is leaving Milwaukee, it
doesn't matter what you're getting back, It is not going
to be a great trade. No one's gonna buy a
ticket to watch Evan Mobley play basketball in Milwaukee. So
the moment you get rid of Yannis, you're saying bye
bye to trying to win. So there's no great trade
(39:41):
for Giannis. That's bullcrap.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Next, I wasn't that long ago that Tom tibdau Ha
was talked about as being on the hot seat, and
now he and the Knicks are about to host the
Eastern Conference Finals. Ben, do you think that this has
secured TIB's future with the Knicks?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Well, no, it's New York and if the Knicks get
run off the court by the Pacers, it'll be back
on the hot season. As long as they win and
they don't get blown out, he'll be fine. How'd we
do you pass this edition? Nineteen ninety seven? Lreeda ninety seven,
nineteen ninety seven, Leda ninety seven, The great number ninety se.
I wasn't even live then. Ninety seven. My god,
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