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June 12, 2025 • 40 mins

Ben Maller talks about five teams denying permission to the Knicks to interview for their head coaching position, Tom Thibodeau taking out a full-page ad in the NY Times to thank the fans, Adam Silver saying ESPN has 'always been about more hardcore basketball', Maller to the Third Degree, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Knock, knock, who's there? That would be our number two.
Our number two is ready for you as we big
guile your mind with hot takes.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
On this Thursday and an hour two.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Five teams denied denied permission to New York.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
And they tried to hire the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
We're putting out feelers trying to hire various coaches around
the NBA. So what have we learned about the Knicks
since the coaching change? And all these teams saying, and
you can't talk to our coach. Also, former Knicks coach
Tom Thibodeau took out a full page ad in.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
The New York Times to thank fans. How does that
one hit you?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
And Adam Silver says ESPN has always been more about
hardcore basketball than TNT, implying that this is a positive.
Do you agree or disagree? We'll talk about that as well.
Right now, all is well and good. Here it is
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Speaker 1 (02:29):
Is this a good story? So Big Apple Blues, Big
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and our lead from from Gotham. As the Pacers and
Thunder played a barnburder.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
In the NBA Finals and Indiana winning that game.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Thanks getting wacky for the team that the Pacers beat
in the Eastern Conference Finals. Now, if you have not heard,
perhaps not, the New York Knicks have now been denied
permission to speak with Chicago Bulls head coach Billy Donovan
about the head coaching job in Gotham.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
And if that sounds familiar, it should.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
We have learned now the Knickerbockers have been rejected by everyone.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
By everyone.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
In fact, the coaches include Jason Kidd, Chris Finch, Quinn
Snyder in Atlanta, Billy Donovan. As we mentioned Emi Udoka,
They've all said we want no part in that. In fact,
I even rejected the Knicks. They contacted me. They said, no,
my brother lives there. I don't want to live there.
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
So let us discuss the.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Question, what have we learned about the New York Knicks
with this episode playing out the last forty eight hours,
that they have been turned down by everyone since they
made the coaching change.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
What have we learned about the Knicks?

Speaker 1 (03:50):
So I've got fund zone, bonfire and supply chain shortage,
and we will combine all of these things together and
we are going to make some thin cut pastrami, which
is really the perfect way to eat pastrami, that thin cut,
nice sandwich. A couple slices of bread there, all right,

(04:11):
So numb bur I said, numb bur.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah. What we have learned about.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
The Knick since the coaching change that the move to
fire Tom Thibodeau was a knee jerk reaction, as we
anticipated it was at the time by James Dolan. This
was owner rage, embarrassed by losing to the upstart Pacers,

(04:40):
so he skipped the cooling off period the Knickerbocker owner
and sent Tom Thibodeau to the coaching electric chair and said, begun, Tims, begun.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Now, this was not supposed to happen. This was not
part of that.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
How do we know that in the big industrial complex
professional sports, the way it works is and it also
works like this in radio. When you get rid of someone,
you already have the replacement ready to go. It's all semantics.
You already have the person to replace the coach ready
to go. It never works this way. It's not supposed

(05:17):
to work this way. And now James Dolan, the owner
of the New York Knickerbockers, finds himself in a fund
zone called the Puzzling World. Now this amusement park, come one,
come all fun for all ages. Only one ride. Though
the ride is amazed. You're stuck in a maze. There

(05:39):
is no exit, just to some twists and turns and
a whole lot of confusion. That is the Puzzling World,
the fund zone of the New York Knickerbockers. How many
coaching rejections does it take for the Knicks franchise to
get the message that they are painfully out of touch
and it's not a great job and people don't want
to go there because if you are keeping score at

(06:01):
home or at work, or wherever you might be, they
have now been told no by Jason Kidd of the Mavericks,
Chris Finch in Minnesota, Quinn Snyder in Atlanta, Billy Donovan
in Chicago, and e May Udoka in Houston. That is
the Big five, A five pack of denials, a five
piece nugget, five doors slam shut, thanks but no thanks. Now,

(06:27):
I did some mallard back of the Napkin math. I
believe I'm right on this. So let's do it out.
We'll do the algebra, we'll play it out.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
So if you take away the Sons, the Grizzlies, and
the Nuggets, who all just hired coaches, so why would
they let their coach leave. So the Sons, the Grizzlies,
and Nuggets just hired their coaches. You'd also take away
the Pacers and Thunder because their coaches are in the
NBA Finals. You then, of course take the Knicks off
because they're the team looking for the coach.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
So there's thirty teams originally in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
So I just eliminated by my math, there eliminated the Sons,
the Grizzlies, and the Nuggets.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
That's three, the Pacers.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
In Thunder that's five, and then I also eliminated the Knicks,
so that's six. So there's twenty four other teams available,
and the math is like twenty percent. Twenty percent of
the available coaches have rejected rejected the Knickerbockers, and so
the Knicks it's like an old school telemarketing thing. The

(07:28):
Knickerbockers are now so clueless they are cold calling coaches.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
It's like hello, Jason Kidd, Yeah, Hey Jay, Jason. Yeah,
this is James Dolan, owner of the New York Knicks,
how you doing today? Okay, good? How's the family? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Hey, if I could show you a way to coach
the Knickerbockers at the Mecca, would you be interested in
learning more about the Knicks coaching job.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Click? Yeah, that's what it's like.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
The Knicks, fancy themselves is a world class destination, right,
premiere franchise, Big City, my most famous arena, world's most
famous arena. However, five of the successful coaches, some of
them are even not that successful, have said no, and
make no mistake, Well, the teams have denied it, and

(08:14):
the Knicks will say, well, the teams didn't want the
coach to go. Knowing the way this works, if Jason
kids like I don't want to coach the Mavericks, I
want to coach the Knicks, the Mavericks will say, Okay,
we don't want to coach that doesn't want to be here,
so we'll work something out with the Knicks. It's on
the coach. If the coach does not want the job,
that's fine. But if the one of these guys, the

(08:36):
five emai Udoka, I don't know why he'd want the job,
but he's in Houston.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
They got a young team.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
That's on the comments they say in gambling, and so
he's like, hey, maybe I want to go to New York.
I got you know, some actress I want to hook
up with the or whatever.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I don't know. So he said, okay, well the Rockets
will work out of trade. But he didn't want to
do that. So here we are. Here we are no oh, no.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Interest in the franchise has been a factory of dysfunction
for decades. And the Knicks walk around like they've got
all this machismo and they've got all this pull and
yet they just bathed in dirty water. Those dirty water dogs,
That's what they bathed. Meanwhile, the team's rejecting them, and uh,

(09:21):
the next thing, they must show up to these meetings
with like a dunce cap on. At this point, right,
they just laughed at laughed out of the room every
single time. Not one of these coaches wanted the number
one media market in America. They all said, I'm good. Embarrassing,
capitally capitally embarrassing. And see James Dolan being rejected more

(09:46):
than a college applicant fresh out of college who sent
their their resume around. They're applied for jobs and they
misspelled their own name on the application, right, It's like, well,
that's that person is probably not a person to hire.
And now now they're searching at the discount rack. They
can hire some cheap, upstart assistant coach you've never heard of.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
And the Knicks, if.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
You're a championship contender, you don't normally hire a starter coach.
And the available coaches you have to go now to
unemployed coaches. Michael Malone of the Nuggets, late of the Nuggets,
Taylor Jenkins, he's out there.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Frank Vogel, who's coached a bunch of teams. He's a
vagabond coach. And so the Knicks is just like, well,
we got to fake it till we make it.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
At this point, now, speaking of the Knicks and former
Nick coaches, page number two here as we move on,
former Nick coach Tom Thibodeau taking a full page ad
out in the New York Times the Old Gray Lady
to thank the fans. So, how does that one hit you?

(10:53):
Tibbs taking out a full page ad? How does that
one hit you? So it hits me like a bonfire,
a full page ad. And then I was like, well,
maybe maybe I'm in like some kind of parallel dimension,
and I'm going back into I said, is it really
twenty twenty five?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
No?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
No, I can't be twenty twenty five. Like, no, no,
it's nineteen ninety seven. You wake up, you grab your
cup of coffee, you flip through the newspaper. It's got
to be the year nineteen ninety seven. It can't be
twenty twenty five. And then I was like, well, no,
it's twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
You talk about having a.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Beachside bonfire with Chris banknotes. If you're Tom Thibodeau, let's
do some malor math on this. So full page ad
New York Times at least one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
I don't think I'm wrong on that, at least one
hundred fifty thousand dollars, probably more.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Probably more. I'm probably I'm probably going low.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
And for what a one page ad with a photo
to say thank you, a update, Hey, Tommy, coach Tibbs.
You could have just sent that out on social media
and saved yourself one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
I know you're rich and James Dolan's gonna pay you
a bunch of money out, but you.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Still you could have recorded a thirty second video and
posted it on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
It's been great. Thanks, it's been fun, But I gotta run.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
But no, no, no, no no, TIBs had that old
school Yeah, I'm a dinosaur.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
I'm an old head, as the kid say.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
And you want to make sure every one of those
woke retirees in New York and across the country that
read the New York Times they saw his heart felt
farewell right while reading what the stock market and then
they read the obits, see who died? Good luck, good
luck on that. But yeah, get the classy move, coach, TIBs,
way to go. And that's one of those things that

(12:41):
should be completely gone, but is not. The full page
newspaper ad when a star player gets traded or a
coach loses his job, and for some odd reason it continues.
It's very bizarre. It's very bizarre. But if you're actually honest,
complete waste of money, complete waste of money, should have

(13:03):
spent that money on overnight talk radio advertising.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
That would have been a better use of that money.
All right, now, final point.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
So Adam Silver, the Lizard person Commissioner of the NBA.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
My opinion, so Adam Silver Royalty. He did an interview
this week.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
He did a bunch of interviews, but he said that
that ESPN has always been more hardcore basketball than TNT.
Now the implication that that is a positive thing. Like
the way that I interpreted what Silver said was that, hey,
that's a good thing. They're hardcore basketball and TNT is

(13:43):
no longer going to be in business with the NBA,
but they were more a bunch of goofs. Do you
agree or disagree with the premise of Adam Silver that
it's actually a good thing to be more hardcore basketball
as opposed to the coverage that TNT provided. So my
thought on this, I wrote down one word here and

(14:04):
I wrote down the word. It starts with an M
capitol M malarkey. This is malarkey. ESPN's coverage blows. I
can't watch the Finals with the audio up ninety percent
of the time because.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Of Doris Burk. She's unlistenable.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I can't watch the halftime because it's terrible. TNT wiped
the floor with ESPN when it comes to basketball coverage,
and the reason why is the very thing that Adam
Silver referenced as a positive for them at ESPN as
opposed to TNT.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
And the issue is this, I'll tell you why.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
There's a supply chain shortage of hardcore basketball fans.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
And Adam Silver is learning that as.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
The NBA Finals go on and fewer and fewer and
fewer people are watching every one of these games, he's
learning that the hardcore basketball fan it might exist in
corners of social media. Yeah, with all due respect, I
think some of that's just bots and a lot of
fake accounts. There are some people I've talked to them

(15:09):
who are hard oh basketball people, and they love the
nerd stats and all that. The issue though, is that
the flotsam and jetsam do not want to be lectured
on x's and o's.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
It is, after all, when everything is said and done, a.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
TV show and it's supposed to be entertaining, and TNT
always nailed that, and they're done.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Charles Barkley, he'll suppose to do stuff at ESPN, will
see how that goes. But Barkley is the ring master
of the circus of fund He just is.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
He's the ring master.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
He's personable, silly, charming, debonair goofy, he's the life of
the party.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
All those things, all those things.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
The NBA product on court often sucks, It just does.
It's the stuff on the periphery that is more interesting
than the actual product on the court. And you can
say that's not right, that's.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Wrong, blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
That's the real world. Okay, that's not the let's sugarcoat it.
That's the way it is. The peripheral stuff is more interesting.
The off court drama, the front court speculation, the trade rumors,
the debates, yapping about legacies.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
And all that.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
What generations The great fans are not tuning in because
they care about hardcore basketball. And if Adam Silver, I
think he's lying when he says it, I don't think
he deep down he knows.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's the case.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
They're turning in for a sporty soap opera that is
packaged as basketball. They're not tuning in to hear Doris
Burke break down the x's and o's in an NBA game.
They don't want to hear about that. They'd like to
hear Charles Barkley bust balls. That's what they would like
to hear. That's why they would like to tune in period,

(16:51):
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(17:37):
We'll get to it. We'll take your calls, the whole thing,
and we will do it.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Next.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
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Speaker 2 (18:56):
Right back there we go and.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Developing story, breaking news, breaking news on the Overnight show here.
Nobody else has this. We're the only show that has
this that we understand. I was getting some email during
the day. The people were saying.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Hey, you get emails.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, yeah, I'm old school, and people were sending me
message They're like, hey, I tried calling last night.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
You gave out the number, and it like didn't go through.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
I kept calling and it wasn't busy, but it was
like it would ring and then it would something was
messed up. So normally I'll get those and it's somebody
it's user error. Usually, you know, use your error. Somebody
doesn't know how to dial the phone, or too drunk
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
They're not an out.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
But when you get three or four of those, that
tells you that it's not an isolated incident of someone
that just doesn't know how to dial. Make sense user error.
That tells you there's actually something wrong with the phone.
So we think there is something yet again wrong with
the phone.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
That is that accurate?

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Would that be an accurate way of describing what's going
on here, that the phones are not like.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
One line working or something like that.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
I'm not sure what's going on because I was getting
DMS from blind Scott saying.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Oh, blind Scott must be he must need therapy. He
can't get through. Holy crab.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
He did get through, So I thought it was a
Verizon issue because he has Verizon.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
We have Verizon. I tried getting through. I couldn't, but
he said he got through on his seventy fifth try.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
So no one's go other than blind Scott, no one's
gonna spend seventy five calls to get through? What could
that possibly be? Did they not pay the phone billy?
What would that be?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
So I guess only a couple of lines are working,
or you have to call seventy five times to get through. Yeah, listen,
I like the show. I work on the show. I
wouldn't call the show seventy five times to get through, Okay,
I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
After we take the couple calls that we have on hold,
I can try rebooting the system here on our end
and see if that does anything.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
To do a full network reboot, that'll be exciting, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Okay. So that's the situation we're dealing with you.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
That's a little bit of turbulence, and it's a call
in talk radio show with no calls, but we always.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Prepare enough not to take calls.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Now, there are a couple of people that got through,
and one of those people is E Dog who's.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
On Long Island. Hello, E Dog?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Is it true, E Dog, that you will be coaching
the Knicks next season?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Is that accurate?

Speaker 6 (21:26):
Well?

Speaker 7 (21:26):
I did get an opportunity to coach coach study for college,
but I would like to coach the next one there?

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, sure you would, okay? And and are you willing
to take the league minimum?

Speaker 7 (21:39):
I'll be able to take a shekel?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Do so, just two shekels and you're good to go.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, give me to give me to shekels and a
falafel falafel August, but not mats of all soup.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
You don't need mons of all soup.

Speaker 7 (21:53):
What's it?

Speaker 1 (21:54):
You don't want mons of a soup?

Speaker 6 (21:58):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Now, no good filter fish, that's you gotta get paid more.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
If the field fish is disgusting, you don't want that.

Speaker 7 (22:05):
I gotta answer your question. And here it is. You
know about Billy Donovan for the Bulls?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
What about him?

Speaker 7 (22:14):
Well, I dated a girl named Linda Donovan when I
was in Queens and I want to know if she's
related to him.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Why don't you ask her?

Speaker 7 (22:25):
Because that on data?

Speaker 6 (22:27):
No more.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, she's on social media. You can find her. You
can track her down center.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
I look at her.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
Fucker.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Come on, Ben, Well, I'm saying stalker. Just say it's
not stalking. If you say I got a question you
related to Billy don What am I?

Speaker 6 (22:42):
How?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
How else am I to answer that question? He dogged.
What kind of question is that? How dare you eat
dogged me?

Speaker 7 (22:48):
Lizath, You don't call out the coach of the Paces. Okay,
I think he's I'm not the owner, but they should
give him a big contract extension for what he did
this year.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
That's a hot take. Nobody else has that take.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
So you think a coach that got the Pacers to
the finals and his two wins away from the championship
deserves a contract.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
They're gonna win. I get.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
But you I thought you were a Bulls fan. The
Pacers are a rival of the Bulls. Why would you
pull out Pacers?

Speaker 6 (23:18):
Well?

Speaker 7 (23:19):
I like the Pacers because I like what you know.
And uh, by the way, I have a Deon sand
this jersey. I picked them from the cleaner last night.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Soose congratulations.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Now let's try to guess what team Deon Sanders was
playing for, because he played for a lot of teams.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Most famous league. I have now a whole on sec.
Don't ruin my game, Do not ruin my game. Okay, Well, we're.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Gonna try to guess what jersey e dog has of
Deon san Now he's played for the Atlanta Falcons, played
with the Dallas Cowboys, forty nine ers, and Ravens. I
think that's it, but maybe he played with somebody else.
So I'm gonna say that you have. I'm gonna go
with a Dallas cowboy, Dion Sanders, Jersey, anyone else.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Went in on this, anyone I wanted to guess Cowboys too,
Bet you care if you want?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
All right, go ahead, yes, big cowboy fan Cowboys?

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, all right, and uh.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Cool for forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
All right, reveal answers.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
He dog don't believe it, guys.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
You're supposed to reveal it at the end of the Yes.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yes, you don't say hello like you're confused.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
All right, guess what.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
Guess what the answer was?

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Guys, we already guessed.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
None of them is right Falcons.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Ah, that's a bad job by you.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
Anyway. How about this line the swarming Indy all the way?

Speaker 6 (24:54):
Now?

Speaker 7 (24:55):
My dad, now, Ben, my dad is a nice guy.
He has a little bit of a schecho on him.
He's an nice person and everything. And he told me
a way to get money.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, you got you got a way to make a
little side hustle, make some money. Hey, I got one
of my buddies, big radio guy, he's uh he's on
the East coast. He's in Maryland, and he thinks you're
the worst call on the show.

Speaker 7 (25:18):
Your thoughts, Well, you must think I'm the best call
because you take my clothes, which I appreciate.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Well, it's a call in show. You call in and
I take your call. This guy, he's a big radio guy.
He knows a lot of very important people. He listens
to the show overnight. He said, make it stop with
these e dog calls. Your thoughts.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
That's ridiculous because I don't know this guy, but he's
a little crazy because according to the uh, you know,
the regiment here, I'm one of the best. Goal as
ever was how.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Did you get through though the phones are not working
and you got through.

Speaker 7 (25:56):
Had connections.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
I gotta go with.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Thank you, thank god. I have two comments. First of all,
he mentioned his dad.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
He always mentions a relative away.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
I'm confused because he sounds like he's like seventy five
years old. How old dog? Yeah, I thought he was
like an old man.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
No, he's got that like New York twang to him.
He always sound older. When you get that.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
New York accent thing, you sound a little older than
you are. I think he's probably around my age, which
is old. But I don't think he's in his seventies.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Okay, he's probably in his forties, you know, something like
little you're little younger than me.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
My dad is in his seventies.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Okay, good for your dad. Does your dad sound young?
Or does your dad?

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Does your dad sound old? You don't even notice, don't.
I don't think most people notice, like people's voices changing
and things like that.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
That's true. He sounds the same to me.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, exactly, because your dad, that's who you know.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
So you didn't see your parents get a little older,
things get a little slower. That's a little that's a
weird you know. Let's go to Blind Scott. He's got
more in this developing story. The phone system here at
Fox Sports Radio having some hiccups.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Hello Blind Scott on the North end of Boston.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
Oh my god, Ben, Like, I don't feel good at
all right now. The past hour, in twenty minutes, I've
been trying to call this show. I didn't want to.
I didn't want to spend nothing.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
You spent an hour and twenty minutes strting to call
the show.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
Oh my god, life is short.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
What are you doing? Dude?

Speaker 6 (27:27):
You just go call the police. I called the police station,
I called my mom, I called Horizon. I thought the
communication systems in America were down. I was gonna email
you and tell you about it, but I didn't want
to because I don't like it when you guys all
don't get along, you know, and I know what's going
on in the studio. Time to know the dynamic of
the studio. So I didn't want to email you because

(27:48):
I didn't want to know. But I really just don't
feel good right now about what's going on, Like I
don't feel safe. I couldn't get through to the show.
I have no idea what the what's been talked about
because I've been down on the phone non stuff. You know,
it's really put me into.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
It like stressed out.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
First of all, First of all, when you're not listening,
we don't do the show.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
We only do the show for you. You're the only
one we do the show for.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
So when you're not listening, we just don't talk. We
just have dead air. It's just radio silence. That's all
we have.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
We don't do anything. We just wait for you to
listen and then we do the show.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
So you can call it now I'm proud of you
because you haven't mentioned Fred Toucher's name the last few times.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
Oh no, Fred's been on vacation for like three days.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Oh that's why. There you go. So that explains why call.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
Then me and Fredwick spots to change phone numbers. So
the rule is now he can just call me on
a Star sixty seven number, Like I already have his
phone number, but I can't just call it, you know
what I mean. I found it on the internet. You know,
he needs to say it's all right, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
But you don't have my number though you don't mind him?

Speaker 6 (28:49):
No, I mean, I bet maybe I could find I
could do a deep dive, but you know, it's a
lot of work to do deep dives, you know. But
I mean, I know I know everything about you, Ben,
except for like I couldn't crack some of the stuff
with your personal relationships because when I met your wife,
she stonewalled me, like completely with any type of personal question.
I asked her.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
She completely, Yeah, because you give me you're a stalker.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
Yeah, well, I love these for you guys like that
guy from Maryland. I'm actually interested in this guy. Finally,
I've heard a lot about him. Does you take calls
on his show? You know, I'm really getting into.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
This who's your who's your bill? Rights?

Speaker 1 (29:25):
And he says, hey, blind Scott, why don't why don't
you just text or call the show? How about that
is our text rather than call the show?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
That's so, who's your bill?

Speaker 6 (29:34):
Who am I going to? Tex I'm not texting anybody.
You ever seen what it's like to get text messages
from me? Dude? It's crazy, woman.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
I know you send me, you send me email like
text message. You'll send me email with like one line
in it.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
Yeah, so you get it automatically because you see it.
Somebody said that they had to teach me that to
do that, but I taught myself that, you know, I
should get emails. I'm emailing with politicians being like oh Jesus,
like there's an election come up, and like emailing them
what I think, all the tips, and then they're responding
to me going like these are great suggestions, and then
you never hear back from and then the election passes,

(30:07):
and then I never vote or anything. You know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
You don't even vote. You're you're they're trying to get you.
To vote and you don't vote, why would you vote?

Speaker 6 (30:15):
I do, I do vote, but I took the mail
mail home ballot. The problem with the mail home ballot
is they can't verify your signature if you're blind. And
then like im so I emailed the voting people. They're
trying to disenfranchise blind voters. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
It's a big issue in America, the blind voter. Clearly.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
Well, it's the thing like if they want to verify
fake fignatures if you're blind, not I use a stamps,
you know, so they're gonna they could obviously do the
French bout, he said, But that doesn't matter. What matters
is I do not feel okay right now?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Okay, all right, Well listen, I play on holding. I'll
put you I'll put you on hold, drug jet or anything.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
Usually I do drugs and to all right.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
I'll put you on hold. I will likely not go
back to you, but I will put you on hold.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Well, when I reset the phone system, it's going to
get get yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, but that'll be good because once we reset the
phone system, then it'll open it up for everyone to
help be able to call in.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
It'll fix the gremlins.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
That are in there because we're like the only show
that takes calls.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I think, I don't know, as far as I know,
they're not many.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
So if we're we're the only ones that really take calls,
then like we're the only ones that could reset.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
The phone system. Yeah, there you go. All right, it
is the Ben Mahlor Show. As we are working away.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Through the over night hours, and there is a brew
haha in the Pacific Northwest, a Hall of famer going
on a rant for the Ages, the Big Unit. Randy
Johnson on him. He's sixty one years old, he's got
that old guy anger going, and he ripped the former

(31:48):
Seattle Mariners executive.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
And if you saw this or not, he did an
interview this week.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I just just saw it and he took a shot
at and I guess it was on television broadcast of
a Mariner diamondback game. Randy Johnson stopped by and unloaded
on a guy named Howard Lincoln, who was a Weasley
executive for the Seattle Mariners whose job was to keep

(32:15):
the costs down in Seattle. Randy Johnson the money quote says,
I think if they meeting, the Mariners were expecting me
to go in as a Seattle Mariner in the Hall
of Fame, then why didn't?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
And he named the executive Howard Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Circle back, at some point when I retired, Randy Johnson
said to make me feel like, you know, my ten
years and contributions there, especially in nineteen ninety five when
I won the Saya and blah blah bah, give all
his stats. I just feel like under his leadership the
ten years my contributions were swept under the rug.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Boohoo hoo.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Now this guy Lincoln is a former Nintendo executive and
he ran the Mariners for a number of years and
he's out. He's been gone from that job for nine
nine years.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
I assume he's still around.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I don't know, but Johnson still holding a crutch and
a couple of thoughts. First of all, I love the.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Fact that he's upset the Mariners did not kiss his ass.
I think that's great.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
And Randy Johnson is one of those guys who's like
when he played Everyone's a hole, Everyone's a hole, good
pitcher a hole.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
That's what they said about Randy Johnson.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
And the thing about Johnson, I remember he was going
to sign with the Dodgers. They had it done. I
was covering the team. I was inside like at that time,
not now with Otani. They kind of kicked me out,
but back then they loved me and I knew everything
that was going on. They had a deal worked out
with Randy Johnson to come to the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
He had been traded from the Mariners.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
To the Astros at the end of the season, and
then he eventually went to the Diamondbacks, but he agreed
to sign with the Dodgers. Then they showed him the
old home clubhouse at Dodger Stadium, which is the same
clubhouse they had had when Dodger Stadium opened.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
They hadn't really renovated it. It was a just.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
A terrible old school locker room, like a high school
locker room. And Randy Johnson said there was nowhere for
him to hide. This is a story that I was
told from someone that he was upset there was nowhere
to hide from the media because it was such a
small locker room. And then he went to the He
went to the Diamondbacks because he couldn't play hide and see.
But I love the fact he still holds a grudge

(34:23):
years later. Bitter and broken and I'm the same way.
If the people here at Fox Sports Rader don't kiss
my ass, I will be very upset, very upset. Time
Now for the inch to trivia, and here we go,
Insta Trivia time. The New York Yankees have a sixty
two a plus sixty two run differential in Max Freed's

(34:47):
fourteen starts.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Now in the modern era. In the modern era.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Blank is the only other pitcher to have that high
of a team run differential over his fourteen teen starts.
His first fourteen starts with the club. Again, the Yankees
are plus sixty two in run differential in Max Freed's
fourteen starts.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
In the modern era, Blank.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Is the only other MLB pitcher to have that high
of a team run differential over his first fourteen starts
with the club.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
That is the Insta trivia the answer. We'll get to it.
We have Mallard of the third degree. We'll get to
that as well. We will do it next.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
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the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
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Speaker 2 (35:38):
Bill Miller and you. It is the Ben Mahlor Show.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
We are not even in a halftime, not even halfway
home on the red Eye flight, but right after the
Ben Malor Show, the pod will.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Be going up.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
If you missed any of the overnight show, be sure
to listen to the podcast to search Ben Mallor wherever
you get your podcast. Be sure to follow and review
of the podcast rated five stars. Again, just search Been
Maller wherever you get your podcast, you'll find the latest
episode in a best of version posted right after we

(36:13):
get off the air. Back to it time now for
the Insta Trivia and here it is Insta Trivia time.
The New York Yankees, who roasted the Royals in a
game on Wednesday night that I was watching. The Yankees
have a plus sixty two run differential in Max Freed's

(36:34):
fourteen starts in the modern era.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Blank is the only.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Other MLB pitcher to have that high of a team
run differential over his first fourteen starts.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
With the club. That is the question. What is the answer?
Let's see does anyone know the answer? We have Mallard
of the third.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Degree coming up here momentarily. Let's see page down. Keith
says oho texto is it Eddie Garcia, get you caught
up on everything going on in the overnight. No, who
else do we have? Page down? Frank Tanana the Banana
from Eke in Roseville, Minnesota, Ramon Ortiz guest by Ferg Dog,

(37:19):
Julian Tavares from alf the Alien, o'piner, Matt sour from
the desk of the Number one, Doris Burke, Fan Shane,
and Demoine.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Who else do you Paige down? I can't read that the.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
FSR phone board operator is the answer? R. A. Dickey,
the Great Ra Dickey from Josh in Nebraska.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Page down. Let's see here, we'll skip.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Over that one drunken, angry drill sergeant from Big Greg
in Iowa.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
All right, Lorena, do you have an answer? Loraina? Yes,
I'm gonna go with Jamison Tala or Tyon Tyon? Is
how you pronounced that?

Speaker 6 (38:05):
Not?

Speaker 1 (38:05):
The correct answer is Ted Wilkes of the Saint Lewis
Cardinals in nineteen forty four.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, nineteen it's mallard. How about that?

Speaker 3 (38:18):
To the third degree, this is one bigvent gets grilled.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
We'll get to the third degree right now. I'm the kooplug.
All right.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Kirk Cousins seems to be coming to terms with the
fact that he has no longer started in the league,
telling reporters on Tuesday, I'm not gonna dwell on things
that aren't reality in terms of that's not the situation
I'm in Ben With a trade no longer seeming like
a possibility, do you think a Michael Pennis junior injury
is the only way Cousins starts again?

Speaker 2 (38:45):
No, because what's gonna have.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
He's playing good cop publicly. He's like these politicians. They'll
tell you whatever you want to hear to get your vote,
and then they'll do whatever they really want to do
whoever pays them off once they get to office. So
Cousins is just gonna sit back and wait, and he's
gonna wait for someone to go snapcrackle, pop and get hurt,
and then he's going to be trading. No reason to

(39:08):
complain about it right now. He'll start for somebody, but
he's gonna have to wait for an injury next.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
It's basically a yearly tradition at this point. But Trey
Young's name is coming up in trade talks yet again,
this time with the Sacramento Kings. Then do you think
the Hawks actually pull the trigger? This time around.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Well, listen, Trey Young going from Atlanta to Sacramento.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
That he'll be in a.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Worse situation, all right, So why would you want to
put that voodoo on Trey Young? The Kings have no
idea what they're doing. They have a nice light show
outside the arena. That's about it. Like the team blows.
Tyree's had two point guards. Think I read both of them,
Tyrese Haliburton and de Aaron Fox.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Next, it seems reports of Juan Soto's demise were premature.
Over the last ten games, Sotos looked like his old self,
and the Mets are thriving.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Ben are the Mets the most dangerous team in the majors?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Well, the Dodgers doing a class by themselves, and the
Mets are good and de Soto is finally playing like
we thought he was going to play at today. Yes,
the answer is yes today. Tomorrow it might be a
different answer. How did we do there?

Speaker 2 (40:12):
It is? That's a win. I like the phones. That's
a win.
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