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October 29, 2025 • 41 mins

Ben Maller discusses if a Kirk Cousins trade would move the needle in the NFL, if Giants edge rusher Kayvon Thibodeaux is available or not, Texans coach DeMeco Ryans saying the Houston media thrives on negative coverage, Maller to the Third Degree, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Dirty Dirty Birds. Welcome in. It's our number two,
our number two of the Ben Mallers Show. Good to
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night preview Man versus Metal. But here in our number two,
we are just days away from the NFL trade deadline.
What a Falcons Kirk Cousins trade Budge the needle in

(00:47):
the NFL. We'll discuss that. Also, the Giants edge rusher
Cavan Thibodeau, is he available or not? Conflicting reports and
coach Demico Ryans in Houston insisting the Texans media thrives
on negative coverage. What's your read on this one? We'll

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at two wins apiece, but our lead is not from

(03:24):
the World Series. Instead, it is from the Dirty Dirty
Birds of Atlanta. Inching closer to the trade deadline as
it is less than a week away. Now today is Wednesday,
and be next Tuesday. It is coming Tuesday, the trade deadline.
So we do the shuffle. You gotta do the shuffle.

(03:44):
Now we're talking about the quarterback shuffle. Here is what
we're talking about. And a story has popped up which
is out of the files of the captain obvious Department
of Sports Media. As we inch closer and closer to
the trade deadline. Time is running out. Time is running out,

(04:05):
and NFL teams have to make those last minute moves.
The November fourth trade deadline and a quarterback has emerged
on the market. Who is it, Well, that would be
Kirk Cousins. Shocker of yes, the guy that went out
there and wrote the vomit comment against the Miami Dolphins.
So he reportedly wants to start. He realizes Atlanta loves

(04:28):
them some Michael Pennix Junior, so they're not that interested
in starting him, even though he was an emergency starter
because Penex was hurt. So the story is, from what
we understand, that the Falcon backup quarterback desires an opportunity
to start elsewhere? Is that really a that shocking that
someone who's a backup wants to play? Okay, However, they

(04:50):
say that no trade appears imminent or eminent imminent now
why because Cousins is making so much money, they'd have
to take money out of Fort Knox in order to
make the trade happen. So that's a good jumping off point.
As we get closer to the trade deadline, let us
discuss the question does a Falcon Kirk Cousins trade budge

(05:14):
the needle would a trade of Kirk Cousins Budge the
needle in the NFL. So on this one, I've got QBC,
Drew Carey, and Spanish American War and we will combine
all of these things together and we are going to
have a colossal good times. What we're gonna have? So

(05:34):
number one, I said, number one, Number all right, I'm
giving this one stink eye is what I'm giving it. Okay,
Kirk Cousins, if you happen to have the misfortune of
watching him play quarterback this past weekend against the Miami Dolphins,
you know where I'm going with this. Kirk Cousins had

(05:55):
a showcase. He was in the display case for the
entire r NFL to watch against a pathetic, gutless Miami
Dolphin team. Even Stevie Meatballs can see how bad the
Dolphins are this year. And what happened. Cousins went out
there and slipped on a banana peal, He did a
face plant, and he essentially it was on a live

(06:19):
infomercial for everyone in the NFL. Everyone's watching where they're
gonna watch the tape afterwards against the Dolphins. This was
a segment on QVC. He was on the home shopping channel.
There and the phone lines nobody called, nobody called bat
sign and Dad giveaway. There's just not interesting. This was

(06:41):
supposed to be Kirk cousins comeback concert, a bunch of
beautiful throws. It was gonna be glorious, right, a symphony
for Kirk Cousins. Instead, it looked like an open mic
night at the local Applebee's on a Monday. Did not
go well. No touchdowns, no juice, a lot of checkdowns,

(07:03):
a lot of just blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah football Now regardless, Right, here's the thing. He's
still a quarterback and he's got he had success in
the NFL, so somebody always takes the bait. Now, the
question is would Atlanta be willing to do it? They

(07:24):
don't have to do it, and it's better to get
something than nothing. If you look at the contractual situation
of Kirk Cousins, his days are limited there now looking around,
as a distant relative of Nostradamus and friend of Nostra Denis,
you look around the NFL and there are a few
lonely Hearts club members. When it comes to the quarterback position,
you're talking about the Raiders. Gino Smith can't play. The

(07:48):
Browns they haven't had a quarterback since Bernie Cozar. The Saints,
Where have you gone, Drew Brees or Lonely Hearts miss you?
Those teams are dumpster diving franchises. So it doesn't make
a lot of sense. You're not going anywhere. Why would
you acquire a veteran, high paid quarterback at the trade deadline.
It's one of those things. It's like it's like being

(08:08):
on the dating app at one fifty eight in the morning,
and you know you're not finding the one. You're finding
a one, but you're not finding the one. You know
what I'm saying, You're just looking for somebody to keep
it warm. That's essentially what those teams are looking for
at this point. This just get us through the rest
of the season. We'll get a high, shiny draft pick
and that'll be that. So what does that mean? Well,

(08:30):
when you continue to look off in the wild blue
yonder around the NFL, you realize that there's only really
two teams that have any kind of intrigue when it
comes to a possible Kirk Cousins trade. Now, I'm going
to make my elevator pitch and I want to see
if you agree or disagree. So those two teams are
Survey says forty nine Ers, Vikings, that's it, that's all.

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That's not a list, Terry and England. That's a big board.
That is a big board, not a list, a big board.
So the forty nine ers have Brock Purdy who's limping
around and when he's played, he hasn't played that well.
Now he's hurt, so he's not playing and he got
paid and all that, and then so he got that
and he's limping around on one stick, on one leg,

(09:19):
and it's like he's like at this point, he's like
him and Mac Jones. Mac Jones has been playing a lot.
Mac had some decent games to start. He's fallen off
the side of the road there lately, and he's kind
of like a rental car that's got four flat tires.
It's not good to look at and all that. Then
you've got Viking red shirt rookie JJ McCarthy, who's so bad.

(09:45):
How bad is he so bad that he looked over
his head to the point where Carson Wentz was starting
ahead of a healthy JJ McCarthy, which is not a
vote of conference, which is not a vote of conference.
Now McCarthy's a red shirt freshman, he's supposed to come back.
The Vikings are massive underdogs against the Detroit Lions this

(10:07):
weekend because there's his thirty seven. He isn't a long
term savior for anybody. However, you need a new band aid,
you know, take off your Hello Kiddie band aid. You
can put Kirk Cousins on right there. And he's got
a pulse and coaches love the father flannagain. We're gonna
fix this guy, make him better with our team, and
I can coach him up and all that stuff. And

(10:30):
quarterback desperation is undefeated. The Bengals went out and traded
for Joe Flacco, who got benched by the Cleveland Browns.
So if Joe Flacco can get benched by the Cleveland
Browns and then end up being relocated to you know who,
the Bengals, then okay. So Cousins knows it. The flea
market is open, and it is really the balls in

(10:52):
the court of Atlanta. Whether or not they want to
deal with it, and do they really value Cousins, is
better just to leave them. Let them leave, or you'll
get some kind of compensation pick. I believe that's how
that works. Now, speaking of the trade deadline, we go
to Jersey conflicting reports regarding the Giants edge rusher Keevan Thibodeaux,

(11:14):
the old Oregon duck Kevon Thibodeaux, who has been described
as a name to watch in quotes, name to watch
in quotes during the upcoming trading season. Now state sponsor
propped the news service of the NFL. NFL Media. They
tell us that the teams have called the Giants trying
to poach Cavan Thibodeau and inquire about trading for his services,

(11:39):
much to the dismay of our friend the movie man,
and they have been told the Giants have no interest,
no interest in discussing a trade involving the fifth overall
pick in the twenty twenty two I believe it was
NFL draft. So we've got conflicting reports. You've got he said,
he said, question in for you, and I'm gonna answer

(12:02):
it first. But I'm gonna pose the question and then
i'm gonna answer. If you want to call up, there's
a line that opened up, so I'll give out the
number in a minute. But here it is is Giants
edge rusher Cavan Thibodeau available or not, because again one
report said implied these available, and then immediately there was
well the Giants are not willing to trade him and
all this stuff, all right, So the Giants, what they're

(12:24):
doing is they're playing a kid's game. So you know
what it is. That's right, pikaboo, that's what they're playing.
They're playing peekaboo with the truth. You know it and
I know it. This is what we call a Drew
Carey situation. Now what is a Drew carry situation? When
it comes to the NFL trade deadline, if the price
is right, you can get the showcase showdown. In this case,

(12:46):
that would be Kevan Thibodeau or go. You offer the
right package and all of a sudden you get to play.
This ain't plinko. We're not playing plinko, if you know
what I'm saying. So, linebacker is actually something that the
Giants have a lot of know it by the way
their defense has played most of the year, But they
have some name brand players. Brian Burns has been a
very good player on bad teams most of his career,

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and they drafted Abdul Carter and they've they've got him.
So that was all after they went out and drafted
Kevan Thibodau, who was a giant bust to begin his
NFL career, and he's this call like it is, he's
mostly been roster spam. You're in the number five overall
pick in the draft. He's got no All pros, no

(13:28):
Pro bowls, and the Pro Bowl they played TikTok toe.
You can't even get in a competitive game of tic
tac toe and flag football. My god. So the point
is they have some wiggle room here to trade the
trade the player. Now. The issue is they they were
gambling that this was going to be a breakout year

(13:52):
Kavon was going to go. And this was the year
they picked up the fifth year options. So they're like, well,
this is gonna be great. He'll be so good, he'll
be so great. And they're still waiting, and they're waiting,
and they're waiting and they're waiting. If somebody dangles a
nice big bag of goodies, I mean a lot of
goodies in there, then the Giants, let's say they're not

(14:14):
putting their phone on airplane mode, they're gonna respond. They're
going to read the comments and all that stuff, and
that's that. So good luck. So yeah, technically, if you
want to get on a technicality, technically he's not available
Covon Thibodeau until he is. Until he is. And then
the translation for those of you a little slow in

(14:35):
the back of the room. Everyone's available at the right price.
Everyone's available at the right price. All right, now, final point.
We go now to Houston, the home of mister Irrigation
and even the Terrible and so many other great contributors
to the show. Despite my very passionate, spicy commentary over
the years about the cheating astro, So I saw this,

(14:59):
and this was in my wheelhouse. Now, to be fair,
I did not see this initially. This was sent to
me by a listener who I believe is name Mike,
who does not live in Houston, but lives in the
suburbs of Houston. He says, Ben, did you see this?
He sent me an email this afternoon and he said,
the Texans. So this is the coach of the Texans,
Demiko Ryans. Now, Dimiko Ryans lectured the media, the beat

(15:23):
writers that cover the Texans, and Mike wanted me to
see this. So the Texans who as a team have
been luke warm. I think we can all agree on
that they've been luke warm most of the season. They've
shown some signs of life, but not consistently in just
another run of the mill mediocre team. However, despite being
lukewarm the roster, they are boiling hot at least the

(15:46):
coach is and Dimiko Ryans, who has said many times
he doesn't care about the media, consumes the media. Yes,
Dimiko Ryans gave a dissertation on media coverage and among
the things that he had to say, Ryan's was very upset.
Dimiko Ryans that the media, he said, everybody wants to

(16:09):
write a hot story. The Texans coach said, and most
of the time it's negative stuff that people want to
talk about. Nobody wants to talk about the positive stuff
that happens.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
I added this last part boohoo hoo question coach Demico
Ryans of the Houston Texans. He says, the media thrives
around the Texans on negative coverage, a very into negativity.
What is your read on this one? What is your
read on this one? So on this one, if you
open up the textbook to page thirteen of the textbook,

(16:43):
and you read right at the very top. It is
a textbook case of I don't care, but let me
present a research paper for five minutes on why I
don't care? Or go you care? Right? You care? So
you either ignore the noise. Might you ignore the noise

(17:06):
the concophony of sounds, or you don't. There's no need
for a ted talk. You're not the editor, you're not
the program director of the media. You're not I don't
know what podcasters have. I don't know they just have
nobody do it by themselves, but whatever, And you're not
there to teach the media to avoid negative headline. It's

(17:28):
like you're trying to reinvent the wheel, Like, what are
you doing, Demiko Ryan? Seriously, for years it has been
if it bleeds, it leaves. Now why is that phrase
popular in mass media? If it bleeds at least? And
why do I always say the equivalent of that in
sports radio the better stories in the losing locker room? Now,

(17:48):
why do I use that phrase? I use that phrase
because it's it's the human condition, is what it is.
And the phrase just give you an example of how
far this goes back the phrase if it bleeds it
leads originated in the eighteen hundreds. Do you understand that
we're talking about the eighteen nineties during the Spanish American

(18:09):
War And I'm not making this up. You can literally
do your own research. Shall google it, ai it, do
whatever you want. This goes back to the Spanish American
War of the late eighteen nineties when the newspaper magnet
William Randolph Hurst, and if you've ever been to the
Hurst Castle, you know this guy was loaded. Okay, So

(18:29):
William Randolph Hearst Hurst realized in the newspaper business that
when you sensationalize a story of violence what happened, more
people wanted to read about it, and therefore you sold
more newspapers and trickle down economics, you made more money.
So Damiko Ryans is acting like this is some kind

(18:51):
of new phenomena. It goes back to the eighteen nineties, dude, like, seriously,
this is how the media has operated. I would say
it goes back to the case in the Angerthal days
when they would draw the saber toothed tiger on the
wall of the cave to warn to warn the others
to avoid the saber toothed tiger. You get the point.

(19:13):
So it's again, it's just human nature. That's my point.
People don't click on stories that say Texans are playing great,
everything's fine. They don't click on that. You click on
Sky is falling, Texans blow, they're in trouble. You click
on that story, and you make money based on the clicks.

(19:33):
So that's how it works. It's essentially factory settings, is
what it is. And because of evolution or whatever you
want to call it, we're all even though we're all
different wink wink, nod not we're not. We're all hardwired
to prioritize threats over the warm fuzzy It's kind of

(19:53):
you know, the warm fuzzy stuff's fine, but you're more
worried about threats. You spot a lion out on the
sea and gar you're gonna spot a lion rather than
sit there and admire the sunset. You got me on that.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I know.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Listen, it's right my wheelhouse. I want to think Mike,
who sent me the story, good job by you. Low
hanging fruit, which, as I've said for years, is the
most delicious fruit is the low hanging fruit. So again,
just stop whining, Dimico Ryans. You want nicewarmcoverage, go to
Texans dot Com, which is like, you know, the Sunshine
website for the Texans. I'm sure it's all propaganda and

(20:28):
you probably love that, right and get your pants down
there you're all excited and otherwise, you know. That's the
content industry that we're in. The content mill is open.
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(23:54):
here page down, just Josh says the Atlanta Falcons, showing
every one Kirk Cousins has an offer, and then he's
sent a funny, funny gift right there, Yes, very nice.
Who else we have Sirias Sean with a non secuder
message there. Thank you Sean, as always appreciate that. Let's

(24:17):
see skip over that one. Rich writes and says, mallor
you said I was on drugs when I said Dak
for MVP last year? Yeah? Did? When did Dak pick
up the MVP? Rich? I must have missed that. That
must have been another dimension, Rich, a dimension I don't
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(24:42):
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(25:06):
because you're gonna You're gonna put the Waymie on the Doyer's.
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Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
First, now I've be in the terrible who loves to
send in things we say to the local yokels. In
Houston because they have nothing to talk about. And imagine
doing local Houston sports radio. How bad the sports scene
is there? Holy crap, No wonder that this show is
a better topic than the local Houston sports scene.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
But you're lucky you're in broadcasting, Ben, Not everyone gets
to talk about the whole kitten kaboodle like you do.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Oh you mean national not doing local? Yeah, I know
it can be if it's one of those word things,
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are bad, it's good. But if they're really really bad,
it's there's a point you cross the rubicon, like the
local teams are supposed to be good and they're bad,
but they're not a bad You're okay. If you do
local radio and the teams are non competitive, boring, lacking

(26:07):
star power, lacking any talking points, it's a freaking nightmare.
You're better off just reading random Wikipedia pages. Terry Terry
in England writes, and he says, no, malor, that was
a list, not a big board. You're not mel kiper,
not enough hair. That's a cheap shot. And that was
not a list. That was a big board. Yeah that

(26:30):
was that was absolutely a big board. He needs to
learn the difference. Yeah, I mean, i'll teach you. Come
to my class sometime, I'll teach you about that. Let's
see here skip over that one. All right, let's go
to the phones. Let's go to Enie Meanie miney mo.
Let's say hello to John who's in Atlanta? Hello? John, Welcome,
It is the Ben Mahler Show.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Hey, how's going then? Brother? He you know I called
in the other night just on your show. Man. I
love it. Man, it's great, thank you. And I'm a
big baseball fan. But talking NFL stuff, I just want
to get your take on what do you think about
the New England Patriots or what's going on there. I

(27:12):
never saw that happening where they're at now. You know,
the AFC East in the lead and they beat the
I think they beat the Bills what a couple of
weeks ago. And they're going to play Atlanta. Yeah, I
think this weekend. I think they're going to destroy them personally.
But I don't like the Falcons. But anyways, where are you?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Where are you from? Originally you're not from Atlanta?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
No, no, man, I'm a retired first armant from the
Ices Army. I've lived every basically all around the country.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
How long How long were you in the army.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
For twenty five years?

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Oh, look at you. Thank you for your service. That's
a great run. And what was your favorite military brace
that you lived at North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
I'm a eighty second ear warn Division guys.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
So that's so cool. You've seen a few things, I
bet in your time in the military.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
All right, some weird things. But I got a great
friend who's retired. He lives up in New England. He's
a big Patriots fan. And yeah, and I'm like, man,
I can't. I did not see the Patriots doing what
they're doing right now.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, yeah, but the only thing like this is the
Patriots look great. Drake May appears to have established himself
the only quality if you want to be a jerk,
and I love being a jerk. I'm a talk show
says you know, John. It would be that they played
a bunch of cream puffs like the Bills wins legit,
But they have one of the all time worst schedules

(28:42):
in NFL history in terms of the opponent strength of schedule.
And you know, the Draft every year it's based on
opponent strength of schedule. And if you look at who
the Patriots have played. They have played the worst of
the worst. They played New Orleans, Tennessee, Cleveland, that's who
they've beaten the last past three games, played Carolina. The
Dolphins are terrible this year. The strength of schedule for

(29:05):
the New England Patriots this year, opponent strength of schedule
is by far the worst in the NFL. Three point
fifty four is the opponents and strength of schedule of
the opponent. So that's the only thing is like, Okay,
they're gonna win a bunch of games. They'll win at
least twelve games, basically because they still play the Jets
obviously in the division. They play the Jets twice, play
the Dolphins again, they play the Bengals, as you mentioned,

(29:27):
the Falcons this weekend. So they've already got six wins.
They're gonna get minimum eleven wins if they just beat
the teams they're supposed to be. They get to eleven wins,
there'll be another upset somewhere in there. So yeah, but
you still won't know by the time we get to
the playoffs. You're not gonna know whether they're good or not.
You know what I'm saying, John, Like they've been teams.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
And that's what I told my buddy. I was like, dude,
you're delusional. They're gonna frigging fold. They're not gonna make it.
They're just not gonna go.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Well, they're gonna make it. Oh, they'll make it. They're
gonna win enough to get to the playoffs. They will
be a playoff team. But whether or not they're a
legitimate good team, that's that's up for the eight.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
So yeah, yeah, and the Colts, I guess in the
AFCI are looking a little bit better. Anyways. Man, I'm
not a real first down the NFL, but I just
tried to him. I say, hey, man, you're delusional if
you think these guys are gonna go.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
To man, that's right. Yeah, what are we doing? All right?
Thank you, I gotta go. That's great, John, look at
that unbelievable new call. Great new calling, great new caller.
So I only had to dump you once, Yeah, not
too bad. Usually usually it's a two dump minimum. Yeah,
that's only with Lucky Tony. The too dump minimum is
with Lucky Tony. So I've got a number of people

(30:37):
have been sending me this story. They want me to
give a hot take on it, So I guess I'll
give a hot take on It's called the traveling Man.
Yannis dent to Cumbo. Jannis dent to Coombo. That is,
I'm told, a basketball player, and a very good basketball player.
So the Milwaukee Bucks were playing the team called the
New York Knickerbockers. It's a basketball team from York.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
They don't win, they haven't won in like fifty something
years or whatever. But you know, they have a lot
of fans in the little Wall Street guys go and
watch them play and all that. So anyway, the Bucks
and the Knicks got together a one thirty one, one
twenty two Bucks win. Giannis ad dent to Coombo, though,
was a trending topic. As he took let's see here
he was, he was not called for traveling even though

(31:19):
he took one, two, three, four, five six steps six
steps slacked. He gathered the ball on a drive, he
didn't dribble, and the referee stood there gobsmacked, and they
didn't call traveling. And that moment, it was in the

(31:39):
first quarter. It went viral on social media and they
showed the slow motion clip. Even our blind listeners like Incoterra,
Cancy and Emmett the blind Seahawk fan can see that
in the slow down. It was egregious, it was blatant,
it was all of that. Even the announcers on in

(32:00):
See I think it was on NBC, Reggie Miller and
Jamal Crawford, they were laughing, this is like the most
ridiculous thing. Mike Tarrico on NBC was great. He brought
up the gather step rule. And this is where worlds
collide and people say, well, wait a minute, what is that.

(32:21):
So the gather step rule, now, technically there was no
change to the traveling rule. It's the same rule. The rule.
Though here's the issue. It's been subjective for years, and
they threw in this vague gather step concept. It was
formalized way back in twenty nineteen. So they say, at

(32:41):
the time, I remember they made a big deal about
We talked about it on the radio show. They said, well,
it's a line with FEBA. We want to be on
the same level as FOEBA. And so it allows a
first step after the gather to not count towards the
two step limit, so essentially giving you three steps. Now,
this was double that the officials are supposed to use

(33:04):
what's called a two count rhythm judgment. But it's a
judgment call. And are we going to get to the
point where every call must be right and they're gonna
review every traveling call? Are we going to get to
that point?

Speaker 3 (33:17):
God?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I hope not. Man, I hope not. Let's go to
Steve in Manhattan. Hello, Steambo in Manhattan?

Speaker 2 (33:28):
All right?

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Where are you? I don't know. I guess he's not there.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Let's say hello, probably prepping to be one of these
other fake calls.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
I'm guessing it's I think it's Kenny Jersey. That's probably
probably the fake call. Hello, Kenny, welcome. See why didn't
you just go back to your other phone? You could
have gone to your other phone?

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, I know what the other phone. The other phone
is in the other room.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Man, all right? That is that is unbelievable dedication. That
is both impressive and it's also psycho behavior. So you
have one phone and run, woman are you? You're running
back and forth? Like, how does this work? How does
this racket work?

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Well? I just listen.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
I just found out that you have to have the
phone with you when you're talking.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
You can't have it in the other room and be
in the other room and talk.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
I just found that out.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Now listen, guys, listen, he's calling back on the other
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I thought, Yeah, why are you calling back on the
other line? We have caller ID.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Dude, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Okay, see you are. You were so flustered because you
were trying to do a phony phone call, and now
we put you on and now you don't know what
to say.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
No, I do know what to say.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
I just you showed up. All right, call back. I
know you'll call back anyway. Oh my god, what just happened?
I believe that was my voice. I don't know what happened.
He must have had his phone or like I think
what he might have had the iHeart app on his
other device. And then he hung up the phone, and

(35:05):
then the show started playing I'm a dumb thing to do?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
All right?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Come on, Steve, you're a professional radio call You're Steve
in Manhattan, and yet it sounds like you've never used
technology in your life, Like, but yet you do all
these phony phone calls, Like what is that all about? Anyway?
It is the here, it is, that's right, Eddie, He's
a freaking moron. It is the Ben Mahler Show. As

(35:33):
we work our way through the over night, we'll push
back some of those other stories we tease because we
have Mallor to the third degree. Here is the insis
the insta trivia. The Raiders are a miserable football team,
but Max Crosby is the first player with ten or

(35:53):
more tackles for loss and five or more passes defended
through the first seven games of a season since blank.
Again the Raiders, Max Frosby, first player with ten or
more tackles for loss and five or more passes defensed
through the first seven games of a season since blank.

(36:16):
The answer, We'll get to it. We will do it next.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
listen live.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Bill Miller and you. It is the Ben Maler Show.
We are hanging out together all night. The Red Eye
Flight got Maller to the third degree moments away. And
don't forget about that iHeartRadio app. With the iHeartRadio app,
you can stream us wherever you happen to be. Catch
us and all the other Fox Sports Radio bombastic Blowhards

(36:52):
Live twenty four to seven the new improved iHeartRadio app.
Just search Fox Sports Radio. On the app you can
stream us live all day, every day, all night, every night.
Be sure select the Ben Malor Show, Fifth Hour Podcast
and Fox Sports Radio, some of your presets and the
iHeart app. It will always pop up at the very
top of your screen. Hot Nuts. That drop is from

(37:16):
a caller that was a one hit wonder who went
by the name Hot Nuts. And oh really, yeah, you
dropped his phone. He was in like the oil business
or something like that, and he dropped his phone in
some oil but he.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
Wanted to be called Hot Nuts. Thought that would be funny.
Am I remembering correctly? Was there like when he was
on the phone, there was like do you get on paraoid?
There was like a helicopter outside.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yes, he was doing a lot of crack cocaine, so
he thought he thought they were coming to get him anyway.
All right, here's the instant tribute the Raiders. Max Crosby
the first player with ten or more tackles for loss
and five or more passes defended for the first seven
games of an NFL season since blank. That is the question,

(38:04):
what is the answer and let's see anybody know the answer.
B Arthur from Rob the goat Man, The Great Pumpkin,
Charlie Brown from the movie Mike.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
We always looked forward to that and then we were like, well,
wait a minute, I mean that was not good, but
we thought it was good. Is just a classic. It
is like Rudolph, Rudolph the Red Nose Rain Dear Bam
Bam Bigelow guests by Elloy from Compton. Credit Card Gordon.
There's another legend. We had two great callers from Otto.
We had credit Card Gordon and then the guy that

(38:38):
married the h what was his name? He married the
young girl, Jason. Jason married like how young? Well she
was legal, but she was young. She was He was
like a middle aged guy, and she was like was
she like nineteen or something like that's like real young. Yeah.
Ew he's the daddy.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
But then she wouldn't let him listen to the show
because she's, you know, she was a kid. She didn't
want to hear, you know, sports talk radio. So Darius
Hayward Bay there's a good name from Scrooge in northern California.
Are a Dicky who is fifty one today, from the
Late Night Drug tester, Chuck E. Cheese from King Roy.
Greatest photo of All Time from Chucky Merlin, Olson barbecuing
Len's answer, Art Donovan, good name by Eke and Roseville

(39:16):
Minnesota League Corso from shaneon to Moyne, What say you
Loreedo Jack Skellington of course, all right, the great Jack Skellington.
I know that is incorrect. The correct answer is JJ
Watt back in twenty fifteen. I want to whatever it
happened to JJ Watta. He never wanted that attention, he
never wanted the spotlight. Here we go, it's Mallard. How

(39:36):
about that?

Speaker 3 (39:37):
To the third degree?

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Here waas is one? Big Ben gets grilled.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
So Carson Wentzon said to undergo season ending surgery on
his left shoulder, and that leaves the Vikings with only
two quarterbacks on their roster. JJ McCarthy and some guy
I've never heard of.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Ben.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Is there anyone that the Vikings should target in a trade?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, Jameis Winston. That's it. I mean, it's all depressing,
but Jamis Winston is fun bad. He's not bad bad,
he's fun bad. He'll at least be fun. Other than that,
it's Russell Wilson. It's Kirk Cousins. You've already had Cousins.
Wilson's done, So that's it. That's the not a list,
that's the big board. It's a big board of one.
Russell Wilson's third string quarterback there behind Russ and Jackson, Dart,

(40:22):
Jameis Winston next.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Kyle Shanahan told reporters on Monday that it isn't a
long shot for Brock Purty to play in Week nine
after missing the last four games in a row for
the forty nine Ers. Does Party's return to make San
Fan more of a threat in the NFC West.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
No, No, because he's been exposed as a second tier quarterback.
So it's about the other players. They don't have their
name brand defensive players. I'm not part of the forty
nine er Brock Purty mouching marching in chowder society. And
that said, mac Jones has cooled off, so Purty would
be a slight upgrade over the way Max played recently.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Next, Tony Dungee took to social media this week to
say that the NFL needs to make replay reviewable. This
comes after the outrage over the Eagles Tush push being
called dead for forward progress when Jalen Hurts had the
ball root from his hands.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Ben, do you think Dungee's right about this? Yes, Let's
make every game like Game four or three of the
World series. Make every game six hours and thirty nine minutes.
We'll just keep.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Going and go.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
How do we don kobol up? Come on? I want,
I won, Michelfrikaan, I won, I won, I did
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