June 16, 2025 • 39 mins
Ben Maller talks about Desmond Bane of the Grizzlies getting traded for four unprotected first-round picks to the Orlando Magic, the paranoia over the number of picks the Magic gave up, what this trade means for Ja Morant's future in Memphis, Maller to the Third Degree, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we go. Welcome, It's our number two, our number two.
On this Monday big NBA trade, Desmond Bane has been
traded for four unprotected first round picks, with Orlando getting
the player, Memphis getting the picks. How do you categorize
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this trade? Also a lot of paranoia over the number
of picks the Orlando Magic gave up to get Desmond Baine.
Where do you fall on that? And what does this
Desmond Bane trade mean for John Moran's future in Memphis?
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Like you kind of know what it means. We'll talk
about that and more right now here. It is our
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Before I really got going in radio, I did a
gossip website at Sports Rumor website for many years and
loved the rumor. Didn't always love the trade. I like
the rumor. The trade's a little bit of a letdown
because then the rumor's over. It's the trade and all that.
But our lead this hour is from pro Bouncy Ball.
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The Pacers and Thunders chose not to play basketball. You know,
these pussy willows in the NBA can't play with just
one day between games, so they didn't play depend on Friday.
Normally Sunday is a big TV night. They said, no,
we'll wait till Monday night, and so they'll be playing
later on on Monday. But to fill the void and
we will get back to the Rafael devastrate, but to
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fill the void as Devs goes from the Red Sox
to the Giants. But in basketball, everyone's talking about this
a massive transactional And if you have not heard, the
Orlando Magic have said, you know what, we really want Desmondan.
We need Desmond Bane. We must have Desmond Bane. And
Memphis said it's gonna cost you, and Orlando said how much?
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And then they said sure, why not? And so Orlando
is getting getting Desmond Bane from Memphis for Kentavious Caldwell
Pope roster spam that gets bounced around the NBA Cole
Anthony and not one, not two, not three, but four
four unprotected first round draft ficks that also part of
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the deal goes to Memphis. And then there's a pick
swap and some other pick swaps and all that. So
let us discuss the question for the esteem panel which
you are part of. Desmond Bane traded for four unprotected
first round draft ficks to Orlando for Orlando from Memphis.
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So how do you categorize the Memphis Orlando trade of
Desmond Bane for a bunch of draft picks? So I've
got Jimminy Crick, Grand Theft Auto and graffiti, and we'll
combine all of these things together and we're going to
make the Gabba ghoul. We're gonna make the Gabba go.
So number one, he said, Number one. The Magic are
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throwing caution to the wind, and I love it. I
love it, I love it, I love it. They have
no parachute. I'm pretty sure that there's no seatbelt, they
don't have a safety net, there's no breaks, and just
reckless abandon just old fashion. This is the player that
we want. How much is it gonna cost? Okay, we
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want that player. They could have had anywhere. If you're
willing to trade that many first round picks, you could
have conceivably gotten just about anyone outside like the top
fifteen players in the NBA. And it's like, okay, this
is the guy they wanted. They looked around, they targeted,
they put a bullseye on Desmond Bane and it's full
Disney World Jimminy cricket. When you wish upon a star,
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or in this case, a second level player, but a
good player, it makes no difference who you are. Even
the Orlando Magic can make an app so anything your
heart desires will come true. And in this case it's
Desmond May nice player, nice ball player, occasionally shoots the
light out lights out, pretty good defensive player as well.
Desmond main And said to be a solid, rock solid
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teammate and all that. So the Magic are betting a
lot that Desmond Bain will unlock new worlds if you will,
that he'll reach a higher level and throwing all those
unprotected draft picks out like there's a little fun sized
snicker bars on Halloween. Just toss them out there. Again.
I like it. I'm not involved, I have no skin
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in the game. I'm not a fan of either one
of these teams. I'm just an outsider. But I love it.
You know, no trust to process, jo slow and study
wins the race. No, it's hey, this is a trade.
Trades are quid pro quo. You got to give up
something to get something, and so fine. Now the Malor
report card, the Malar report card on the Desmond ban trade.
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The Orlando Magic get an a minus in a minus
they get and the Grizzlies get the D. They get
the D because they are announcing we are not even
trying anymore. This is a trade announcing we are tanky mctank.
The Memphis Grizzlies. Come for the barbecue, don't come from
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the basketball. Don't come for the basketball now, page two.
So I've seen a lot and heard a lot of
noise since this trade was announced, and it's like, how
do you address the paranoia, I'll use the word paranoia.
How do you address the paranoia from the number of
people freaking out by all these draft picks that the
Magic gave up to get Desmond Bank. You paid too much?
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Oh my god, Memphis is set up all crap. So
I've always been annoyed by this. It's been something that's
been a bit of a pet peeve over the years.
And I will lay it on you if you're new
to the show, if you've heard it before, just you know,
sit back and have a drink. But my issue is
the obsession which draft picks. Low information fans, dumb fans
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are convinced every one of those draft picks is going
to be the next big thing, all right. Fans treat
first round draft picks like they're playing Grand Theft Auto
and it's a cheat code and they have it and
they know how why did you get rid of Chico?
You had a cheat code? You got to use the
cheic code. You can't get rid of the cheeko, they say,
Oh my god. Spoiler alert, spoiler alert. Now we have
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seen a trend outside of the Luca deal, which was
not a deal. I mean, it seems pretty obvious now
based on these other trades that that was orchestrated by
someone at the NBA or whether it's for TV or
whatever reason, to just hand Luca to the Lakers. And
this trade, if Desmond Baine is worth four unprotected first
round draft picks and a couple of pick swaps and
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Luca is worth one first round pick and a broken down,
washed up Anthony David, you gotta be joking, right, I mean,
they've been hiding it. They're not even hiding it anyway,
here's the deal, let's get down to it. The spoiler
on this is that these picks in NBA circles do
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not have as much value. They just don't, right. Draft
picks are a renewable asset. We have preached on that
mountain top for many, many years. They're renewable and even
if you give up a lot, eventually you'll be able
to replace them because every year you get one, and
if you trade four, you just got to be at
least competitive for the next few years, and you can
upgrade your ruster. There are different ways to do this.
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There are different ways to do this. And for those
triggered by the mirror volume of the draft picks and
all that stuff, what are the odds? A riddle me this, batman.
What are the odds that any of the first round
picks turn out to be a player, even as good
as Desmond Bane? And you probably don't think Desmond ban
is that good because you don't watch the Grizzlies and
you don't really know basketball. Okay, he's not that great.
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What are the odds? What is it? Is it ten percent?
Is it fifteen percent? I wouldn't say it's any more
than fifteen percent, Probably less than that. Less than that
one of those picks will turn out to be what
Desmond Bain is. So you're gambling at this point in
the NBA draft. You're gambling at betting on teenagers, a
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lot of them, like out of France or somewhere, and
you're betting on them. Well, Bain is out there and
he'll give you twenty points, likely more than that in
Orlando because he'll be asked to do more than that.
But twenty points, he'll defend the other team's top wing
player and he's not going to cause a lot of drama,
rama and all that. So what's wrong with that. It's
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the NBA's version of instead of building a car from
just getting the parts and the Cardier's I'm gonna get
a certified pre owned car. That's that's Desmond Maine. In
this case, you certified, pretty good warranty figure for the
next three or four years, he'll be fine. So you're
getting a premium player, not a top ten or fifteen player,
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but a good, solid second line player, and that's what
Orlando needed. Now, final point. Now we get down to
the real interesting part of this is the meaning of
it from thirty thousand feet in the sky. So what
does this Desmond trade, Desmond Bain trade. What does this
Desmond Bain trade mean for Ja Morant, Ja Morant and
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his future in Memphis. So we can strike up the
band right now. Nada la da noa, Hey, goodbye, see
you later. Yeah, he's on standby right now. Ja Morant
is on stand by. The summer of transactions hasn't even
gotten started. That begins after the NBA Finals and John
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Moran is on standby. If you can read the graffiti
on the wall. Time to start packing. And for John Moran,
he's got to pack up all his weapons, his finger gun,
his imaginary grenades, his make believe torpedoes, got to pack
all those up in his make believe suitcase. And you're gone.
And look at the Grizzlies here. This trade, the Desmond
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Main trade, was an announcement. We are out of business
in terms of trying to win. We're done. The barbecue
is good, the basketball not so much. You've got a
new coach who took over late in the season last
year in Memphis. And that new coach, let's call it
what it is here, is an entry level coach. You
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hired an entry level coach. You traded the number two
player on the team, Desmond Bain, for some scratcher tickets.
And they're not even good scratcher tickets. So you did that,
and so who's next? Ja Moran? The logical move is Jomaran.
He still has superstar value and when he's right, he's
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poetry in motion running around the court and all that stuff,
and the catches and it's kind of a big catch,
right everything no one's traded do is perfect. Everyone's got issues.
So he's not on the court enough because he's always
heard and if he's not heard, he's getting suspended for
something stupid. And he's done it for years. And from
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what we've heard, the Grizzlies Decriaz. They they want to
be the spitting image of Okay. See, this is a
copycat move. That is what we're hearing here that Memphis
is like, well, Oklahoma City's in the NBA Finals and
they're the favorite to win the championship, and they did this.
They traded all these guys away and they just got
a bunch of draft picks, and we're going to copy them.
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We're in a similar market, Memphis and Oklahoma City, and
why not. We're just one of these flyover teams. That's
what we're gonna do. And so we got four first
round picks unprotected for Desmond Maine. We'll get another three
or four first round pick for John Moran. We'll have
like eight first round picks. We'll be set up and
then we're gonna pick all the right players and we're
going to be the new OKC period stop. And then
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they wake up and they realize the chances of getting
the picks right, good luck. And also, let's not pretend
like the key part of the OKAC Thunder is not
a player they drafted, it's a player the Clippers drafted
in SGA. That's the reason the thunder is so good.
It's not the players they drafted, it's the MVP of
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the league is a guy the Clippers drafted. So they
didn't even draft an MVP in OKC. They got him
in a trade. But Memphis is trying to copy that
blueprint and they're just gonna load up draft picks, put
a blindfold on, and throw darts and whatever name comes up, boom,
there you go. Meanwhile, John Moran, where's he gonna end up?
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Where's he going now? The early favorite I've heard is Miami,
and Miami's trying to desperately get a headliner. And Tyler
Hero is not that guy. You're not that guy, Poalp,
You're not that guy. So John Morant Miami, that makes
some sense, and he's like Philadelphia somewhere like that, the
usual suspects outside of Miami, which is also a usual suspect.
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The argument is that John Moran is a change of
scenery guy, although I don't know how if you're getting
into trouble in Memphis. Wouldn't you get into more trouble
than Miami? Isn't that a town built on trouble? Like
if you're looking now? Of course, the argument is, if
you're looking for trouble, you're gonna find it no matter
where you are, right, Brett Farv had issues. Brett Farav
had problems in uh, you know, Atlanta. They traded him
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to Green Bay. He still had some issues when he
got to green Bay years ago. So maybe he'll grow up.
John Morant, new coach, new city, some accountability. I wouldn't
hold my breath right. Maybe is a weasel word. May
be a weasel word, big weasel word, verbal equivalent of
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half hearted shrug, like I don't know, I don't know,
say mate, so just a little bit of commitment, but
not full commitment. You're dodging full responsibility and you have
plausible deniability. It is the Bean Maler Show. If you'd
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I said, Hayes, you stay on hold. I'm gonna do
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about to go to Hazes in Minnesota. I looked to
my board and Hayeses hung on, as I knew he would.
He always hangs up. He cannot he can't stay there.
So Hayes, if you're listening, call back, But if not,
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somebody else can take your line. Eight seven seven ninety
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three sixty nine, The Big Stories here Trades talked about
the Desmond Bay trade. Here Baseball, everyone freaking out. The
Red Sox have traded their franchise player, Raphael Devers, who
was a bad teammate in mal Content Diva in Boston.
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So they just sent his ass to the San Francisco
Giants for some crappy pictures and said, we're done with you.
Get out of here and out to the Pacific Ocean.
Go away from us, all right, straight ahead? Did Nascar?
That's right, Nascar? Buggety buggey, buggey, bugey bugget Did Nascar
take a page out of the NBA playbook? Say what,
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We'll get to that and we will do it next.
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and pro bouncy Ball Mallard monologue to begin hour number two.
The NBA will be back. I know you're excited about that.
No one's watching, but they will be back playing on
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Monday night. Monday night, so so so exciting. Yes, I
cannot wait. I cannot wait. Mister Irrigation says NASCAR sucks.
Now it's circling the drain as well. He says, there
you go. It's more to say we do. We do
have one NASCAR story which came to my attention, so
we'll get to that coming up in a minute. And
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Alf the alien Opiner has a fun fact that he
thinks we should share, and so we have a fun
fact in the hour there malter fun fact that over
the weekend Brad Marshant joined Mario Lemue as the only
players in NHL history score five goals in multiple Stanley
Cup finals in the last fifty nine years. Boston Rules
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have got a second round pick in like twenty twenty
seven or something for Brad Marshan, who they traded. He's
a free agent. Maybe we'll go back to the Bruins.
The captain of the Bruins there see, Shannon de Moyes
says the Malamus is waiting on more Major League Baseball monologues.
Chip and the Que says, hey, plus and the monologue.
John Morant might someday grow up. Taylor Swift also might
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dump Travis Kelcey for me. But I'm not gonna hold
my breath that either will ever happen. You might die. Uh,
let's see here, Ozzie Wash says Hayes, having six beers
a night, he needs to pump them up. Those are
rookie numbers. Well, yeah, you're Australia dude, Ozzy was Come on,
you can't compare the alcohol consumption of a hard working
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Australian to Hayes, who picks up dead bodies for a
living and drives them around Minnesota. Okay, come on, let's
go to the phones and let's say hello to who
do we have? Let's say sailo to Tony, who's in
so caw Hello Tony, welcome.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Hey Ben Buster Posey really stuck it to the Dodgers.
Like last week, the word got out the Dodgers were
looking for left handed power. Maybe this was the guy
that they were trying to do a deal and Buster
got in front of him. Man. Really, you know, if
the Dodgers had some pictures to trade, they could have
done it. But they can't afford to trade pictures. All
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they got is Max Munsey and CONFORDO. And if they
had kept Christade they can put him in the deal.
But they don't even have any minor leaguers that are
worth training. They got nothing, Well.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
They don't devs does. He can't play third base. He
doesn't want to play third base, So why would the
Dodgers trade for him as a DH just to have
him as a DH. That wouldn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Well, he when when when Otani pitches or when the
day after? Maybe he wants to play third base?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well, he did, and then then when they the Bregman
got hurt. They so they said, well, maybe we'll moving
back to third base. And he freaked out and I'm
a DH, you said, I'm a D I'm a d
h R. That's one of the reason they traded.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
The Dodgers were looking for left handed DH. They were saying,
I think this buster. Posey found out about it and
got yeh list.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
The Giants need, they need to start. But this guy's
a star, like they don't have it. And you look
at that team. They got a good record, but they're not.
They don't have any stars.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
And the Giants are paying all the money. The Boston's
paying no money, none of his salary. Giants are taking
all of it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well, they can afford it. They got they got money there.
They can spend the money.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
The dev If the Dodgers don't make if the Dodgers
don't win the division, They're in big trouble if they
have to go wildcard run.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
No stop, listen, I mean half these guys are lingering
on the injured list there with Blake Snell and Glass.
Now what disasters those players are? What's what thiefs? Those
two are? Blake Snell? We knew that guy. We said
that guy, Blake Snell. Everyone that gets into a beef
with me online, I got no beef with him in
Tampa Bay. What a loser, Blake Snell.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
The glassnow injury is really really suspicious.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It's like he's been hurt the whole time since he
got here. The guy's been hurt the whole time.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
It's like that guy that came over from what's his name,
he went to Houston or whatever. It was, that guy
which guy you talk the darger pitcher who didn't want
to pitch in the game six? Remember was that guy?
The big name guy?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Oh oh you're talking about Jeff Sure, Max Shirley, Yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, that guy.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I've ever.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, I can't pitch. I can't. We need you in
game six now I can't. I'll be available maybe in
game seven. S throw you. There's no game seven. You
lost game six to you loser.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yeah, it's just he's just like him.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah. Yeah, sures there is dead to me too. I
hate guys like that, and NASCAR is.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Like totally dead, is it? They're going to tear down
the California Speedway they already did it.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah yeah, I remember when that opened. I was doing
local radio at the time. They were so excited. They're like, man,
NASCAR is going to take over La baby, and it
never happened. I go, I thank you. Yeah, so it's
NASCAR story.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I'm not a NASCAR guy, so I don't know much
about this, but I saw this and it caught my attention.
So the conspiracy theory is that NASCAR pulled an NBA.
Now what do I mean by that? They were racing
in Mexico City, and you want to take a guess
who won the race in Mexico City. Yes, a Mexican
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driver won the race. So the theory is that NASCAR
rigged the race. Now, there are ways, it's actually not
that hard to rig a race. If you allow certain
things in certain cars. Nobody be wrong. You should never
do that. But people are pointing, asking, wait a minute,
what's going on Daniel Suarez. This actually on Saturday, the
Infinity Series, which is not the main the main event,
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but he won, and there were many that believe there
was some funny business going on that the race outside
of the United States. I believe that was the first
points race outside. On Sunday, they had the first points
race outside the US in sixty seven years, and so
people were like, well, what's going on, Wait a minute,
there's some rigging. I didn't watch it, so I don't
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know whether that was the case. Is this the first
time a non American driver has won? Uh no, but
in Mexico. It's just kind of a weird coincidence that
a driver in Mexico and they're promoting trying to get
people there to win, and people are like, well, what's
going on Wait a minute here, and the race was
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was rigged, and yeah, listen, I like a good conspiration theory.
I don't think it's impossible that something like that would happen.
But you need a little more than just people randomly
throwing it out saying that rigg You know, more than that.
Let's say hello to Bruce the Walker. This guy's up
all night walking around his complex there in beautiful Santa
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Monica not going outside because there's hoodlums out there. Hello,
Bruce the walker, Hold I was let me punch him up, Bruce,
I think the line, see the line is not working
on my end. I'm punching the button. I'm hitting the button.
I have them up on my side. No, I know
I punched the lineup.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
So can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
There?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You go? All right? Well, that's weird?
Speaker 5 (24:38):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
If I was any better, I'd be taking a snooze.
But no, no, I'm all right. What's up with you? Bruce?
How many?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Still I'm feeling I'm feeling fantastic. The air is fresh,
it's warm out. I'm just I'm feeling great. The only
thing is I got a new pair of runners in
a new brand, and I don't think my feet are
a bit sore.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
But we gotta break him in. As you know, when
you get new shoes, you gotta break them and it
takes a little time there. I need to get some
new shoes too. My shoes are all messed up.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Can we say brand names on the air or no?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I don't know. I don't care. Say whatever you want. Yes,
you just can't say to buy.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Them Okay, okay, I was wearing a new balance for
like twenty years, but I tried on, you know, Roger Fetters.
I'm wearing on right now, and they're not as good.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I don't think you're gonna rip them. You're allowed to
rip them. You don't have to. You can't sell people
to buy them, but you can rip them, that's right.
And how long you've been walking? Let's try to guess
how many steps you've been at there, Bruce. What time
did you start walking?
Speaker 5 (25:30):
About two hours ago?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
About two hours ago? All right, so about two hours ago.
I'm gonna say, you've told us your casual, your casual walker.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
So I'm carrying a phone. I can't even want I
can't even yeah, I can't even sway the second arm.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
All right, all right, all right, I think you're at six.
I'll go six thousan one hundred steps. Anyone else I'm
gonna go with thirty two hundred thirty two that's too low.
What about you. I'm gonna go.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Nine thousan around nine I just undertain you have really
got three miles.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Three miles hour mile and a half an hour.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Okay, yeah, three miles, and then it's about around nine
thousand steps.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Okay, but I got listen.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I've been doing some reading ben around. You're familiar obviously
with nil, right.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yes, I wish I could get some nil. I'd like
to be able to me too. Anyway.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
I don't know if you've heard about this. Have you
heard about the the house settlement between the n C
Double A and and the two the two players that
sued the n C Double A house and the Donum.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, so this is going to clear the way for salaries, right,
I suppose this will clear the way for players a million.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Every Division One team is allowed to spend twenty million
paying players starting in September, and I just think a
lot of people are gainst it. I think it's great
because a lot of schools are in major conferences like
I don't know, Illinois or Northwestern or Vanderbilt, who have
never been able to compete with the big boys like
Ohio State and Alabama. Now they got twenty million to
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pay players. I think it's gonna lead a better competition.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Well, don't you have to come up with the money
though they're they're not handing out there and not every
school is getting twenty million. You have to come up
on revenue.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
If you're in Illinois, you're getting Big ten TV money, if
you're Vanderbilt you're getting scc TV money.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Well well, as I understand it, though, this is just
going to open up what we used to have where
your limit you're cut off at twenty million, so the
extra money will just be handed out in those Manila
envelopes like they used to do. Like, yeah, you check
into them, you can.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Legally pay players.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I think it's I know, well you can legally pay them,
but there's a limit. So then if you know, teams
are going to pay more than that, the teams that
can afford it though.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Well yeah, yeah, maybe, but I just think I think
it's a good a good way to try to even
out the competition because a lot of people don't think
of the fact there are so many school the major
conferences that never really ever get any good. You know,
maybe once every ten years they have a decent season
or something like a team like Vanderbilt or Illinois.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Well now now that used to be the case, but
now that'll never be the case now because if you
with nil, if you have a good year, if you
have a couple like upstart, like the mid major thing
in college basketball. You have a couple of good players
on a mid major team, you're gonna get poached by
somebody else who can pay you more money. So you're
gonna go somewhere else because you can get more cash.
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Why would you stay there at a mid major when
you can go to a power school and get more cash.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Because every school will be able to pay twenty million.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, I understand, but I think we're having a like.
I know what you're saying, and in theory, if everyone
honored the rules, you'd be right greating.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I won't honor the rules. I see what you're And
how about Nick shab and crying after n I I
can't keep my players anything.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
All those balls guys retire like coach k is An
all the one he got out. You know it's imagine me,
Imagine me. I've been doing radio since before podcasting. Imagine
like when podcasting came, I'm out. I can't handle people
doing podcasts. Now. These jocks, these meathead jocks, are getting podcasts.
You're getting millions of dollars. They sucked, right, and they're
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getting millions of dollars. So I'm done. I'm gonna quit
radio because they're getting millions to do a crappy podcast
no one's listening to.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Why is Nick Shaban revered is the greatest coach when
he's just a big cry babies like a little girl,
And same with dab Well.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I think the championships is why Nick Saban's called the
greatest coach. He won a lot of championships, and so that's.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Usually because because he told the brand name and he
was able to have every player on his roster was
better than all the backups.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well that's that's how you. Phil Jackson coached Michael Jordan
and Scottie Pippen and Shaq and Kobe, and he's the
great NBA championship coach. All right, I gotta go, thank you.
Enjoy your walking. There's Bruce de Walker unless we come
up with a better nickname. And uh again, I guess
we had to reset the phones because I can't hang
up on him. So I but there we go, right,
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very nice. Let's see here, Well, let's punch up Andrea.
Let's see if that works here, you coop, you will
have to do that. It's good to know the equipment.
It's a national network, the number one sports radio network
in the country, and the phones don't work. Hello Andrea
in Berkeley, virgal and service. She's the astrology insider.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Oh I like that, Hello Ben, how are you?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
If I was any better, I'd be a giant watch.
I guess it would be. They got they made the
big trade, the Giants. They got the player from the
Red Sox Raffaeld Divers, big doings in the Bay Area.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Yes, it's been a busy, nice for her, my sports astrology.
I like that, the astrology insider. And yeah, you know,
timing is everything. Devers is born October twenty four, nineteen
ninety six, and he's twenty eight, and he's having his
satur return, which is a cycle of endings and new
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beginnings and increased career responsibility. So it's really interesting. A
lot of people get traded or move on during their
satur return and make major life changes. And he's an
intense scorpio, so you know, no strange of the transformation.
And he's got this intensity and this determination and this focus,
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and you know, the Giants were kind of desperate for
a good bat, so they got that. He's about a
two eighty hitter and you know, well it remains to
be seen. We're playing in the field. Obviously that's a
boat of contention, but nonetheless it's kind of good timing.
It was just interesting, like right before you know, the
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Giants pitcher was about to pitch, it was like, not
so fast, you've been traded.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah the game.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
You were at the game.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I was at the Giants. Yeah yeah, but it's like
it was like thirty minutes before the games. I got
my phone started blowing up. Was like, yeah, there was
a trade, and I was like, yeah, that's kind of weird,
that's odd, know, I guess, you know, let's good for
the guys on the Giants. I mean, the Giants didn't
really give up anything of value. And then but those
guys go to the Red Sox, and the Red Sox
are you know, competitive team. They have the chance to
make the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
They've been playing better lately, right, I know, it's watching's
fortinite New York. And they were glad that he was
leaving the Red Sox because he would, you know, make
the Yankees lose a lot of games. So you know,
they just got swept by the Red Sox.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
That's right. Yeah, yeah, big surprise over the weekend though, Well,
Red Soxs are gonna sweep the Yankees, right, the mighty
New York Yankes. Surprise, surprise, surprise.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Yeah, so they were like happy that he's leaving town.
So it'll be interesting to see, you know, how that
manifest for the Giants. But obviously they needed, you know,
a good hitter.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
So well, it's always odd though, those guys that leave
the Red Sox and have to go to a ballpark
that's not a hitter's ballpark, and that's a big ballpark
in San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Yeah, you know, that's a good point. So it'll be
interesting to see how that manifests itself. But that was
kind of a last minute.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Big trades, so for sure we'll.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
See what ends up manifesting sad of returns of endings
the new beginning. So we'll see how he cond of
has this new beginning.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah for sure. All right, well, thank you, Andrea. Appreciate that.
Virgo in service on X. You want to say hello
to Andrea, she'll say a load to you back. Yeah,
thank you, all right, I have a fine night. There
she goes, our friend Andrea. Time now for the instant
trivia and here it is. Show Hey, Otani tied the
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twenty five home runs. He's tied with Blank again. Sho Heltani,
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one games with twenty five home runs. That is the question.
What is the answer, and let's see does anyone know
the answer? Mallard prop guy says it's personal friend of
Hazen Minnesota. Herman Munster is the answer. Dated reference, but
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I loved it. Oh Dallas Perez from lou the Great
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and Guardina got a right bad job by him. Bill.
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how about that? To the week go?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
This is one big gets grilled?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
All right? Cool? Look.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
Ben Roethlisberger said on his podcast over the weekend that
he believes this will be Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, Yes, swansong.
Easy for him to say, yes that he quote doesn't
have much more after this year? Yeah, Ben, do you
think this is going to be rogers last season?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Well, this is why Ben Roethlisberger gets paid the big bucks.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Man.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I can't imagine saying guy that's going to turn forty
two in December is near the end of his career.
That is a hot take. Man, me, what's the name
I am? A Roethlisberger's podcast captain Obvious? I mean, come on,
of course Rogers is likely playing his last year and
if not, his next to last year. The Tom Brady
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model is the exception to the rule. It is is
the exceptional rule. So it's like, come on, what do
we do He's a forty one year old quarterback, right,
now his birthday is in December. Rogers is not gonna
play that much longer. Made this play eight Next.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
Our reports are that Travis Kelcey is coming into the
season twenty five pounds lighter than he was last year. Yeah,
do you think that will help him bounce back from
what was a down year for him?
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Well, I look forward to these shows because they're coming
up once training camp opens up in July. It's the
I call it the yo yo the guys that suck,
and then the half the guys that suck say I
need to get stronger, and then the other half the
guys that suck, say I need to get lighter. And
then what happens is if they play well, it's because
they've got heavier, they got lighter, and if they suck,
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it's because they got too light or too heavy. So
that's what we have to look forward to. So, no,
it doesn't matter. And Travis Kelsey, he's getting older. He
sucked in the Super Bowl. He's got to prove that
he can come back and play, whether he's skinny or
fat or in shape or whatever.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
Next, the Washington Nationals have lost eight games in a row.
Manager Dave Martinez was asked how much of the struggles
are on the players and how much are on the coaches.
He said, quote, it's never on coaching. Yeah, sometimes you
got to put the onus on the players. But do
you think it's time for the Nats to move on
from Martinez? Well, no, they're not really trying to win anyway.
I tell that to my boss too. Why does the
show suck? It's not because the talk show host. It's
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not by you know, they always laugh at me. But no,
it's the Nationals aren't trying to win. So why would
you change coaches if you're trying to win? Sure, they're not.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
How do we do?
Speaker 1 (39:44):
You passed this to the share it is that's so win.
Player on the ball won the game. I won the game.
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That's why
Here we go. Welcome, It's our number two, our number two.
On this Monday big NBA trade, Desmond Bane has been
traded for four unprotected first round picks, with Orlando getting
the player, Memphis getting the picks. How do you categorize
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this trade? Also a lot of paranoia over the number
of picks the Orlando Magic gave up to get Desmond Baine.
Where do you fall on that? And what does this
Desmond Bane trade mean for John Moran's future in Memphis?
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Like you kind of know what it means. We'll talk
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Before I really got going in radio, I did a
gossip website at Sports Rumor website for many years and
loved the rumor. Didn't always love the trade. I like
the rumor. The trade's a little bit of a letdown
because then the rumor's over. It's the trade and all that.
But our lead this hour is from pro Bouncy Ball.
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The Pacers and Thunders chose not to play basketball. You know,
these pussy willows in the NBA can't play with just
one day between games, so they didn't play depend on Friday.
Normally Sunday is a big TV night. They said, no,
we'll wait till Monday night, and so they'll be playing
later on on Monday. But to fill the void and
we will get back to the Rafael devastrate, but to
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fill the void as Devs goes from the Red Sox
to the Giants. But in basketball, everyone's talking about this
a massive transactional And if you have not heard, the
Orlando Magic have said, you know what, we really want Desmondan.
We need Desmond Bane. We must have Desmond Bane. And
Memphis said it's gonna cost you, and Orlando said how much?
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And then they said sure, why not? And so Orlando
is getting getting Desmond Bane from Memphis for Kentavious Caldwell
Pope roster spam that gets bounced around the NBA Cole
Anthony and not one, not two, not three, but four
four unprotected first round draft ficks that also part of
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the deal goes to Memphis. And then there's a pick
swap and some other pick swaps and all that. So
let us discuss the question for the esteem panel which
you are part of. Desmond Bane traded for four unprotected
first round draft ficks to Orlando for Orlando from Memphis.
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So how do you categorize the Memphis Orlando trade of
Desmond Bane for a bunch of draft picks? So I've
got Jimminy Crick, Grand Theft Auto and graffiti, and we'll
combine all of these things together and we're going to
make the Gabba ghoul. We're gonna make the Gabba go.
So number one, he said, Number one. The Magic are
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throwing caution to the wind, and I love it. I
love it, I love it, I love it. They have
no parachute. I'm pretty sure that there's no seatbelt, they
don't have a safety net, there's no breaks, and just
reckless abandon just old fashion. This is the player that
we want. How much is it gonna cost? Okay, we
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want that player. They could have had anywhere. If you're
willing to trade that many first round picks, you could
have conceivably gotten just about anyone outside like the top
fifteen players in the NBA. And it's like, okay, this
is the guy they wanted. They looked around, they targeted,
they put a bullseye on Desmond Bane and it's full
Disney World Jimminy cricket. When you wish upon a star,
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or in this case, a second level player, but a
good player, it makes no difference who you are. Even
the Orlando Magic can make an app so anything your
heart desires will come true. And in this case it's
Desmond May nice player, nice ball player, occasionally shoots the
light out lights out, pretty good defensive player as well.
Desmond main And said to be a solid, rock solid
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teammate and all that. So the Magic are betting a
lot that Desmond Bain will unlock new worlds if you will,
that he'll reach a higher level and throwing all those
unprotected draft picks out like there's a little fun sized
snicker bars on Halloween. Just toss them out there. Again.
I like it. I'm not involved, I have no skin
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in the game. I'm not a fan of either one
of these teams. I'm just an outsider. But I love it.
You know, no trust to process, jo slow and study
wins the race. No, it's hey, this is a trade.
Trades are quid pro quo. You got to give up
something to get something, and so fine. Now the Malor
report card, the Malar report card on the Desmond ban trade.
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The Orlando Magic get an a minus in a minus
they get and the Grizzlies get the D. They get
the D because they are announcing we are not even
trying anymore. This is a trade announcing we are tanky mctank.
The Memphis Grizzlies. Come for the barbecue, don't come from
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the basketball. Don't come for the basketball now, page two.
So I've seen a lot and heard a lot of
noise since this trade was announced, and it's like, how
do you address the paranoia, I'll use the word paranoia.
How do you address the paranoia from the number of
people freaking out by all these draft picks that the
Magic gave up to get Desmond Bank. You paid too much?
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Oh my god, Memphis is set up all crap. So
I've always been annoyed by this. It's been something that's
been a bit of a pet peeve over the years.
And I will lay it on you if you're new
to the show, if you've heard it before, just you know,
sit back and have a drink. But my issue is
the obsession which draft picks. Low information fans, dumb fans
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are convinced every one of those draft picks is going
to be the next big thing, all right. Fans treat
first round draft picks like they're playing Grand Theft Auto
and it's a cheat code and they have it and
they know how why did you get rid of Chico?
You had a cheat code? You got to use the
cheic code. You can't get rid of the cheeko, they say,
Oh my god. Spoiler alert, spoiler alert. Now we have
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seen a trend outside of the Luca deal, which was
not a deal. I mean, it seems pretty obvious now
based on these other trades that that was orchestrated by
someone at the NBA or whether it's for TV or
whatever reason, to just hand Luca to the Lakers. And
this trade, if Desmond Baine is worth four unprotected first
round draft picks and a couple of pick swaps and
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Luca is worth one first round pick and a broken down,
washed up Anthony David, you gotta be joking, right, I mean,
they've been hiding it. They're not even hiding it anyway,
here's the deal, let's get down to it. The spoiler
on this is that these picks in NBA circles do
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not have as much value. They just don't, right. Draft
picks are a renewable asset. We have preached on that
mountain top for many, many years. They're renewable and even
if you give up a lot, eventually you'll be able
to replace them because every year you get one, and
if you trade four, you just got to be at
least competitive for the next few years, and you can
upgrade your ruster. There are different ways to do this.
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There are different ways to do this. And for those
triggered by the mirror volume of the draft picks and
all that stuff, what are the odds? A riddle me this, batman.
What are the odds that any of the first round
picks turn out to be a player, even as good
as Desmond Bane? And you probably don't think Desmond ban
is that good because you don't watch the Grizzlies and
you don't really know basketball. Okay, he's not that great.
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What are the odds? What is it? Is it ten percent?
Is it fifteen percent? I wouldn't say it's any more
than fifteen percent, Probably less than that. Less than that
one of those picks will turn out to be what
Desmond Bain is. So you're gambling at this point in
the NBA draft. You're gambling at betting on teenagers, a
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lot of them, like out of France or somewhere, and
you're betting on them. Well, Bain is out there and
he'll give you twenty points, likely more than that in
Orlando because he'll be asked to do more than that.
But twenty points, he'll defend the other team's top wing
player and he's not going to cause a lot of drama,
rama and all that. So what's wrong with that. It's
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the NBA's version of instead of building a car from
just getting the parts and the Cardier's I'm gonna get
a certified pre owned car. That's that's Desmond Maine. In
this case, you certified, pretty good warranty figure for the
next three or four years, he'll be fine. So you're
getting a premium player, not a top ten or fifteen player,
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but a good, solid second line player, and that's what
Orlando needed. Now, final point. Now we get down to
the real interesting part of this is the meaning of
it from thirty thousand feet in the sky. So what
does this Desmond trade, Desmond Bain trade. What does this
Desmond Bain trade mean for Ja Morant, Ja Morant and
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his future in Memphis. So we can strike up the
band right now. Nada la da noa, Hey, goodbye, see
you later. Yeah, he's on standby right now. Ja Morant
is on stand by. The summer of transactions hasn't even
gotten started. That begins after the NBA Finals and John
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Moran is on standby. If you can read the graffiti
on the wall. Time to start packing. And for John Moran,
he's got to pack up all his weapons, his finger gun,
his imaginary grenades, his make believe torpedoes, got to pack
all those up in his make believe suitcase. And you're gone.
And look at the Grizzlies here. This trade, the Desmond
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Main trade, was an announcement. We are out of business
in terms of trying to win. We're done. The barbecue
is good, the basketball not so much. You've got a
new coach who took over late in the season last
year in Memphis. And that new coach, let's call it
what it is here, is an entry level coach. You
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hired an entry level coach. You traded the number two
player on the team, Desmond Bain, for some scratcher tickets.
And they're not even good scratcher tickets. So you did that,
and so who's next? Ja Moran? The logical move is Jomaran.
He still has superstar value and when he's right, he's
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poetry in motion running around the court and all that stuff,
and the catches and it's kind of a big catch,
right everything no one's traded do is perfect. Everyone's got issues.
So he's not on the court enough because he's always
heard and if he's not heard, he's getting suspended for
something stupid. And he's done it for years. And from
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what we've heard, the Grizzlies Decriaz. They they want to
be the spitting image of Okay. See, this is a
copycat move. That is what we're hearing here that Memphis
is like, well, Oklahoma City's in the NBA Finals and
they're the favorite to win the championship, and they did this.
They traded all these guys away and they just got
a bunch of draft picks, and we're going to copy them.
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We're in a similar market, Memphis and Oklahoma City, and
why not. We're just one of these flyover teams. That's
what we're gonna do. And so we got four first
round picks unprotected for Desmond Maine. We'll get another three
or four first round pick for John Moran. We'll have
like eight first round picks. We'll be set up and
then we're gonna pick all the right players and we're
going to be the new OKC period stop. And then
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they wake up and they realize the chances of getting
the picks right, good luck. And also, let's not pretend
like the key part of the OKAC Thunder is not
a player they drafted, it's a player the Clippers drafted
in SGA. That's the reason the thunder is so good.
It's not the players they drafted, it's the MVP of
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the league is a guy the Clippers drafted. So they
didn't even draft an MVP in OKC. They got him
in a trade. But Memphis is trying to copy that
blueprint and they're just gonna load up draft picks, put
a blindfold on, and throw darts and whatever name comes up, boom,
there you go. Meanwhile, John Moran, where's he gonna end up?
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Where's he going now? The early favorite I've heard is Miami,
and Miami's trying to desperately get a headliner. And Tyler
Hero is not that guy. You're not that guy, Poalp,
You're not that guy. So John Morant Miami, that makes
some sense, and he's like Philadelphia somewhere like that, the
usual suspects outside of Miami, which is also a usual suspect.
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The argument is that John Moran is a change of
scenery guy, although I don't know how if you're getting
into trouble in Memphis. Wouldn't you get into more trouble
than Miami? Isn't that a town built on trouble? Like
if you're looking now? Of course, the argument is, if
you're looking for trouble, you're gonna find it no matter
where you are, right, Brett Farv had issues. Brett Farav
had problems in uh, you know, Atlanta. They traded him
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to Green Bay. He still had some issues when he
got to green Bay years ago. So maybe he'll grow up.
John Morant, new coach, new city, some accountability. I wouldn't
hold my breath right. Maybe is a weasel word. May
be a weasel word, big weasel word, verbal equivalent of
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half hearted shrug, like I don't know, I don't know,
say mate, so just a little bit of commitment, but
not full commitment. You're dodging full responsibility and you have
plausible deniability. It is the Bean Maler Show. If you'd
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about to go to Hazes in Minnesota. I looked to
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He always hangs up. He cannot he can't stay there.
So Hayes, if you're listening, call back, But if not,
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three sixty nine, The Big Stories here Trades talked about
the Desmond Bay trade. Here Baseball, everyone freaking out. The
Red Sox have traded their franchise player, Raphael Devers, who
was a bad teammate in mal Content Diva in Boston.
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So they just sent his ass to the San Francisco
Giants for some crappy pictures and said, we're done with you.
Get out of here and out to the Pacific Ocean.
Go away from us, all right, straight ahead? Did Nascar?
That's right, Nascar? Buggety buggey, buggey, bugey bugget Did Nascar
take a page out of the NBA playbook? Say what,
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We'll get to that and we will do it next.
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The NBA will be back. I know you're excited about that.
No one's watching, but they will be back playing on
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Monday night. Monday night, so so so exciting. Yes, I
cannot wait. I cannot wait. Mister Irrigation says NASCAR sucks.
Now it's circling the drain as well. He says, there
you go. It's more to say we do. We do
have one NASCAR story which came to my attention, so
we'll get to that coming up in a minute. And
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Alf the alien Opiner has a fun fact that he
thinks we should share, and so we have a fun
fact in the hour there malter fun fact that over
the weekend Brad Marshant joined Mario Lemue as the only
players in NHL history score five goals in multiple Stanley
Cup finals in the last fifty nine years. Boston Rules
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have got a second round pick in like twenty twenty
seven or something for Brad Marshan, who they traded. He's
a free agent. Maybe we'll go back to the Bruins.
The captain of the Bruins there see, Shannon de Moyes
says the Malamus is waiting on more Major League Baseball monologues.
Chip and the Que says, hey, plus and the monologue.
John Morant might someday grow up. Taylor Swift also might
(18:53):
dump Travis Kelcey for me. But I'm not gonna hold
my breath that either will ever happen. You might die. Uh,
let's see here, Ozzie Wash says Hayes, having six beers
a night, he needs to pump them up. Those are
rookie numbers. Well, yeah, you're Australia dude, Ozzy was Come on,
you can't compare the alcohol consumption of a hard working
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Australian to Hayes, who picks up dead bodies for a
living and drives them around Minnesota. Okay, come on, let's
go to the phones and let's say hello to who
do we have? Let's say sailo to Tony, who's in
so caw Hello Tony, welcome.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Hey Ben Buster Posey really stuck it to the Dodgers.
Like last week, the word got out the Dodgers were
looking for left handed power. Maybe this was the guy
that they were trying to do a deal and Buster
got in front of him. Man. Really, you know, if
the Dodgers had some pictures to trade, they could have
done it. But they can't afford to trade pictures. All
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they got is Max Munsey and CONFORDO. And if they
had kept Christade they can put him in the deal.
But they don't even have any minor leaguers that are
worth training. They got nothing, Well.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
They don't devs does. He can't play third base. He
doesn't want to play third base, So why would the
Dodgers trade for him as a DH just to have
him as a DH. That wouldn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Well, he when when when Otani pitches or when the
day after? Maybe he wants to play third base?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well, he did, and then then when they the Bregman
got hurt. They so they said, well, maybe we'll moving
back to third base. And he freaked out and I'm
a DH, you said, I'm a D I'm a d
h R. That's one of the reason they traded.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
The Dodgers were looking for left handed DH. They were saying,
I think this buster. Posey found out about it and
got yeh list.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
The Giants need, they need to start. But this guy's
a star, like they don't have it. And you look
at that team. They got a good record, but they're not.
They don't have any stars.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
And the Giants are paying all the money. The Boston's
paying no money, none of his salary. Giants are taking
all of it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well, they can afford it. They got they got money there.
They can spend the money.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
The dev If the Dodgers don't make if the Dodgers
don't win the division, They're in big trouble if they
have to go wildcard run.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
No stop, listen, I mean half these guys are lingering
on the injured list there with Blake Snell and Glass.
Now what disasters those players are? What's what thiefs? Those
two are? Blake Snell? We knew that guy. We said
that guy, Blake Snell. Everyone that gets into a beef
with me online, I got no beef with him in
Tampa Bay. What a loser, Blake Snell.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
The glassnow injury is really really suspicious.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It's like he's been hurt the whole time since he
got here. The guy's been hurt the whole time.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
It's like that guy that came over from what's his name,
he went to Houston or whatever. It was, that guy
which guy you talk the darger pitcher who didn't want
to pitch in the game six? Remember was that guy?
The big name guy?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Oh oh you're talking about Jeff Sure, Max Shirley, Yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, that guy.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I've ever.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, I can't pitch. I can't. We need you in
game six now I can't. I'll be available maybe in
game seven. S throw you. There's no game seven. You
lost game six to you loser.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yeah, it's just he's just like him.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah. Yeah, sures there is dead to me too. I
hate guys like that, and NASCAR is.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Like totally dead, is it? They're going to tear down
the California Speedway they already did it.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah yeah, I remember when that opened. I was doing
local radio at the time. They were so excited. They're like, man,
NASCAR is going to take over La baby, and it
never happened. I go, I thank you. Yeah, so it's
NASCAR story.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I'm not a NASCAR guy, so I don't know much
about this, but I saw this and it caught my attention.
So the conspiracy theory is that NASCAR pulled an NBA.
Now what do I mean by that? They were racing
in Mexico City, and you want to take a guess
who won the race in Mexico City. Yes, a Mexican
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driver won the race. So the theory is that NASCAR
rigged the race. Now, there are ways, it's actually not
that hard to rig a race. If you allow certain
things in certain cars. Nobody be wrong. You should never
do that. But people are pointing, asking, wait a minute,
what's going on Daniel Suarez. This actually on Saturday, the
Infinity Series, which is not the main the main event,
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but he won, and there were many that believe there
was some funny business going on that the race outside
of the United States. I believe that was the first
points race outside. On Sunday, they had the first points
race outside the US in sixty seven years, and so
people were like, well, what's going on, Wait a minute,
there's some rigging. I didn't watch it, so I don't
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know whether that was the case. Is this the first
time a non American driver has won? Uh no, but
in Mexico. It's just kind of a weird coincidence that
a driver in Mexico and they're promoting trying to get
people there to win, and people are like, well, what's
going on Wait a minute here, and the race was
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was rigged, and yeah, listen, I like a good conspiration theory.
I don't think it's impossible that something like that would happen.
But you need a little more than just people randomly
throwing it out saying that rigg You know, more than that.
Let's say hello to Bruce the Walker. This guy's up
all night walking around his complex there in beautiful Santa
(24:18):
Monica not going outside because there's hoodlums out there. Hello,
Bruce the walker, Hold I was let me punch him up, Bruce,
I think the line, see the line is not working
on my end. I'm punching the button. I'm hitting the button.
I have them up on my side. No, I know
I punched the lineup.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
So can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
There?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You go? All right? Well, that's weird?
Speaker 5 (24:38):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
If I was any better, I'd be taking a snooze.
But no, no, I'm all right. What's up with you? Bruce?
How many?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Still I'm feeling I'm feeling fantastic. The air is fresh,
it's warm out. I'm just I'm feeling great. The only
thing is I got a new pair of runners in
a new brand, and I don't think my feet are
a bit sore.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
But we gotta break him in. As you know, when
you get new shoes, you gotta break them and it
takes a little time there. I need to get some
new shoes too. My shoes are all messed up.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Can we say brand names on the air or no?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I don't know. I don't care. Say whatever you want. Yes,
you just can't say to buy.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Them Okay, okay, I was wearing a new balance for
like twenty years, but I tried on, you know, Roger Fetters.
I'm wearing on right now, and they're not as good.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I don't think you're gonna rip them. You're allowed to
rip them. You don't have to. You can't sell people
to buy them, but you can rip them, that's right.
And how long you've been walking? Let's try to guess
how many steps you've been at there, Bruce. What time
did you start walking?
Speaker 5 (25:30):
About two hours ago?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
About two hours ago? All right, so about two hours ago.
I'm gonna say, you've told us your casual, your casual walker.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
So I'm carrying a phone. I can't even want I
can't even yeah, I can't even sway the second arm.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
All right, all right, all right, I think you're at six.
I'll go six thousan one hundred steps. Anyone else I'm
gonna go with thirty two hundred thirty two that's too low.
What about you. I'm gonna go.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Nine thousan around nine I just undertain you have really
got three miles.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Three miles hour mile and a half an hour.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Okay, yeah, three miles, and then it's about around nine
thousand steps.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Okay, but I got listen.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I've been doing some reading ben around. You're familiar obviously
with nil, right.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yes, I wish I could get some nil. I'd like
to be able to me too. Anyway.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
I don't know if you've heard about this. Have you
heard about the the house settlement between the n C
Double A and and the two the two players that
sued the n C Double A house and the Donum.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, so this is going to clear the way for salaries, right,
I suppose this will clear the way for players a million.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Every Division One team is allowed to spend twenty million
paying players starting in September, and I just think a
lot of people are gainst it. I think it's great
because a lot of schools are in major conferences like
I don't know, Illinois or Northwestern or Vanderbilt, who have
never been able to compete with the big boys like
Ohio State and Alabama. Now they got twenty million to
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pay players. I think it's gonna lead a better competition.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Well, don't you have to come up with the money
though they're they're not handing out there and not every
school is getting twenty million. You have to come up
on revenue.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
If you're in Illinois, you're getting Big ten TV money, if
you're Vanderbilt you're getting scc TV money.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Well well, as I understand it, though, this is just
going to open up what we used to have where
your limit you're cut off at twenty million, so the
extra money will just be handed out in those Manila
envelopes like they used to do. Like, yeah, you check
into them, you can.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Legally pay players.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I think it's I know, well you can legally pay them,
but there's a limit. So then if you know, teams
are going to pay more than that, the teams that
can afford it though.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Well yeah, yeah, maybe, but I just think I think
it's a good a good way to try to even
out the competition because a lot of people don't think
of the fact there are so many school the major
conferences that never really ever get any good. You know,
maybe once every ten years they have a decent season
or something like a team like Vanderbilt or Illinois.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Well now now that used to be the case, but
now that'll never be the case now because if you
with nil, if you have a good year, if you
have a couple like upstart, like the mid major thing
in college basketball. You have a couple of good players
on a mid major team, you're gonna get poached by
somebody else who can pay you more money. So you're
gonna go somewhere else because you can get more cash.
(28:29):
Why would you stay there at a mid major when
you can go to a power school and get more cash.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Because every school will be able to pay twenty million.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, I understand, but I think we're having a like.
I know what you're saying, and in theory, if everyone
honored the rules, you'd be right greating.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I won't honor the rules. I see what you're And
how about Nick shab and crying after n I I
can't keep my players anything.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
All those balls guys retire like coach k is An
all the one he got out. You know it's imagine me,
Imagine me. I've been doing radio since before podcasting. Imagine
like when podcasting came, I'm out. I can't handle people
doing podcasts. Now. These jocks, these meathead jocks, are getting podcasts.
You're getting millions of dollars. They sucked, right, and they're
(29:16):
getting millions of dollars. So I'm done. I'm gonna quit
radio because they're getting millions to do a crappy podcast
no one's listening to.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Why is Nick Shaban revered is the greatest coach when
he's just a big cry babies like a little girl,
And same with dab Well.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I think the championships is why Nick Saban's called the
greatest coach. He won a lot of championships, and so that's.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Usually because because he told the brand name and he
was able to have every player on his roster was
better than all the backups.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well that's that's how you. Phil Jackson coached Michael Jordan
and Scottie Pippen and Shaq and Kobe, and he's the
great NBA championship coach. All right, I gotta go, thank you.
Enjoy your walking. There's Bruce de Walker unless we come
up with a better nickname. And uh again, I guess
we had to reset the phones because I can't hang
up on him. So I but there we go, right,
(30:03):
very nice. Let's see here, Well, let's punch up Andrea.
Let's see if that works here, you coop, you will
have to do that. It's good to know the equipment.
It's a national network, the number one sports radio network
in the country, and the phones don't work. Hello Andrea
in Berkeley, virgal and service. She's the astrology insider.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Oh I like that, Hello Ben, how are you?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
If I was any better, I'd be a giant watch.
I guess it would be. They got they made the
big trade, the Giants. They got the player from the
Red Sox Raffaeld Divers, big doings in the Bay Area.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Yes, it's been a busy, nice for her, my sports astrology.
I like that, the astrology insider. And yeah, you know,
timing is everything. Devers is born October twenty four, nineteen
ninety six, and he's twenty eight, and he's having his
satur return, which is a cycle of endings and new
(30:56):
beginnings and increased career responsibility. So it's really interesting. A
lot of people get traded or move on during their
satur return and make major life changes. And he's an
intense scorpio, so you know, no strange of the transformation.
And he's got this intensity and this determination and this focus,
(31:18):
and you know, the Giants were kind of desperate for
a good bat, so they got that. He's about a
two eighty hitter and you know, well it remains to
be seen. We're playing in the field. Obviously that's a
boat of contention, but nonetheless it's kind of good timing.
It was just interesting, like right before you know, the
(31:40):
Giants pitcher was about to pitch, it was like, not
so fast, you've been traded.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah the game.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
You were at the game.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I was at the Giants. Yeah yeah, but it's like
it was like thirty minutes before the games. I got
my phone started blowing up. Was like, yeah, there was
a trade, and I was like, yeah, that's kind of weird,
that's odd, know, I guess, you know, let's good for
the guys on the Giants. I mean, the Giants didn't
really give up anything of value. And then but those
guys go to the Red Sox, and the Red Sox
are you know, competitive team. They have the chance to
make the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
They've been playing better lately, right, I know, it's watching's
fortinite New York. And they were glad that he was
leaving the Red Sox because he would, you know, make
the Yankees lose a lot of games. So you know,
they just got swept by the Red Sox.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
That's right. Yeah, yeah, big surprise over the weekend though, Well,
Red Soxs are gonna sweep the Yankees, right, the mighty
New York Yankes. Surprise, surprise, surprise.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Yeah, so they were like happy that he's leaving town.
So it'll be interesting to see, you know, how that
manifest for the Giants. But obviously they needed, you know,
a good hitter.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
So well, it's always odd though, those guys that leave
the Red Sox and have to go to a ballpark
that's not a hitter's ballpark, and that's a big ballpark
in San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Yeah, you know, that's a good point. So it'll be
interesting to see how that manifests itself. But that was
kind of a last minute.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Big trades, so for sure we'll.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
See what ends up manifesting sad of returns of endings
the new beginning. So we'll see how he cond of
has this new beginning.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah for sure. All right, well, thank you, Andrea. Appreciate that.
Virgo in service on X. You want to say hello
to Andrea, she'll say a load to you back. Yeah,
thank you, all right, I have a fine night. There
she goes, our friend Andrea. Time now for the instant
trivia and here it is. Show Hey, Otani tied the
MLB record with blank He's tied with Blank for the
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most home runs of a leadoff spot out of the
leadoff spot in a team's first seventy one games with
twenty five home runs. He's tied with Blank again. Sho Heltani,
he tied the Major League Baseball record for the most
home runs out of the leadoff spot first seventy one
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now for the Insta Trivia show. Hel Tani has tied
the MLB record with Blank for the most home runs
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out of the leadoff spot in a team's first seventy
one games with twenty five home runs. That is the question.
What is the answer, and let's see does anyone know
the answer? Mallard prop guy says it's personal friend of
Hazen Minnesota. Herman Munster is the answer. Dated reference, but
(35:48):
I loved it. Oh Dallas Perez from lou the Great
leadoffitter O Dallas Prez I forty in says Chuck E.
Carr is the answer. John Franco from Shane in the
One Who's still freeloads on the Mets? Who else we have?
John Elway and Dan Marino baseball legends from alf the
Alien o'piner Bobby and Florda says lead off hitter Dua
(36:12):
Lipa is the answer, I love her. Grady Sizemore from
Eke and roseo Minnesota, James Bond Bond from Nature Boy,
Mister ed tossed out by mister irrigation in Houston. Here's
a good name from BA City Tony, former Cleveland Indian
and Iwear enthusiast. Alex Cole is the answer. They actually
(36:35):
changed the fences in their ballpark for Alex Cole, a
marginal player. Tony Womack from James. That's his answer. Manuel
and Guardina got a right bad job by him. Bill.
Who's your Bill? Who's hammered? Going with Steve Stone? Sir
Rodney from Charman and Charman Harmon. That's his answer. What
(36:55):
else we have about? Do you have an answer? Lorraina? Yes,
My answer is Bobby went Junior, Bobby Witch. You and
your finanswer, but completely wrong. The correct answer is Baltimore,
oriol legend and friend of sports with Coleman. Brady Anderson
came back in nineteen ninety six The power of the needle,
The power of the needle. Here we go, Here we
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how about that? To the week go?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
This is one big gets grilled?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
All right? Cool? Look.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
Ben Roethlisberger said on his podcast over the weekend that
he believes this will be Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, Yes, swansong.
Easy for him to say, yes that he quote doesn't
have much more after this year? Yeah, Ben, do you
think this is going to be rogers last season?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Well, this is why Ben Roethlisberger gets paid the big bucks.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Man.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I can't imagine saying guy that's going to turn forty
two in December is near the end of his career.
That is a hot take. Man, me, what's the name
I am? A Roethlisberger's podcast captain Obvious? I mean, come on,
of course Rogers is likely playing his last year and
if not, his next to last year. The Tom Brady
(38:12):
model is the exception to the rule. It is is
the exceptional rule. So it's like, come on, what do
we do He's a forty one year old quarterback, right,
now his birthday is in December. Rogers is not gonna
play that much longer. Made this play eight Next.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
Our reports are that Travis Kelcey is coming into the
season twenty five pounds lighter than he was last year. Yeah,
do you think that will help him bounce back from
what was a down year for him?
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Well, I look forward to these shows because they're coming
up once training camp opens up in July. It's the
I call it the yo yo the guys that suck,
and then the half the guys that suck say I
need to get stronger, and then the other half the
guys that suck, say I need to get lighter. And
then what happens is if they play well, it's because
they've got heavier, they got lighter, and if they suck,
(38:57):
it's because they got too light or too heavy. So
that's what we have to look forward to. So, no,
it doesn't matter. And Travis Kelsey, he's getting older. He
sucked in the Super Bowl. He's got to prove that
he can come back and play, whether he's skinny or
fat or in shape or whatever.
Speaker 7 (39:13):
Next, the Washington Nationals have lost eight games in a row.
Manager Dave Martinez was asked how much of the struggles
are on the players and how much are on the coaches.
He said, quote, it's never on coaching. Yeah, sometimes you
got to put the onus on the players. But do
you think it's time for the Nats to move on
from Martinez? Well, no, they're not really trying to win anyway.
I tell that to my boss too. Why does the
show suck? It's not because the talk show host. It's
(39:35):
not by you know, they always laugh at me. But no,
it's the Nationals aren't trying to win. So why would
you change coaches if you're trying to win? Sure, they're not.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
How do we do?
Speaker 1 (39:44):
You passed this to the share it is that's so win.
Player on the ball won the game. I won the game.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
That's why
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