October 16, 2025 • 40 mins
Ben Maller talks about Bears QB Caleb Williams saying he "could care less" about Troy Aikman's criticisms, if Myles Garrett deserves the noise being sent his way by Cleveland media, Jason Kelce attempting to fight social media misinformation, Maller to the Third Degree, and more!
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hour two. Do you believe Bear's quarterback Caleb Williams couldn't
couldn't care less. He meant to say couldn't, but he
said couldn't care less about Troy Aikman's comments. Also, does
Miles Garrett deserve the noise being directed his way from
the Cleveland media for his lackluster performance of Late for
the Brownies and what's your viewpoint on Jason Kelsey attempting
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to fight social media misinformation. We'll go there as well.
All of it coming your way right now here. It
is our number two. It is the bear reality. Welcome.
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talk more about that if you want, shockingly radio silence
from Seattle. We normally get a lot of calls from Seattle,
but I guess when the Mariners lose, they don't want
to call our lead. This hour, though, is from the
Windy City and the Chicago Bears winners on Monday Night,
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but apparently losers according to the broadcast, Fans outraged. How
where are you who not licked the toes of our quarterback?
Very unhappy, very unhappy with Troy Aikman and his performance
on Monday Night football. En If you didn't see the
broadcast or hear the audio on this, maybe not Aikman.
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Let's just say that he did not use kid gloves,
He did not bite his tongue, he did not hold back.
In his critique of the Chicago Bears quarterback Caleb Williams,
calling out several of his many mistakes with the Bears
late throws, he used the term luck to describe some
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of some of Caleb Williams and the Bears positive plays,
including the game breaking play that allowed the Bears to
get back into the game to catch and run by
Swift That said it was a lucky play. So he
had that. Then you had the Chicago coach Ben Johnson,
who even addressed the commentary in a couple of different
parts of his news conference. Of course, it's very awkward
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because these coaches are they don't watch the game, they're
doing the game, and they always like to say, like,
we don't pay attention to the media and what the
media says. But he did address it. And then Caleb
Williams also the man who was lucky, the man who
was late with throws. Caleb Williams also jabbed at the
Monday night football broadcast. Now he posted a photo carousel
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on Instagram Caleb Williams with a caption that included Aikman's initials.
It was lucky and then it had the letters TA
for Troy Aikman. The caption read in part, so Williams
was asked about that and this and all of this stuff,
and here's what the Bears quarterback had to say. Take
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a listen, let's go the audio tape.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Maybe you don't think, yeah, I get care less. It's
kind of how I've I think I've said multiple times
over my time being here. Fair life isn't fair. People
are gonna say what they.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Have to say.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We win, we lose. People have stuff to say. It
was lucky, it was not lucky. People have stuff to say,
you know, you know, have a bad game, have a
good game. You know, people have stuff to say. So
it's it's it doesn't matter. We're only worried about what's
going on here within this building and with these guys.
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So that's all all I can say about that.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
All right, let us discuss the question do you believe
Bears quarterback Caleb Williams? Could I love? He screwed this up?
Could care less about Troy Aikman's comments. I've got super villain,
pontoon boat, and plastic fork, and we will combine all
of these things together and we're gonna make some delicious,
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delicious Chicago popcorn, which we were gifted, by the way,
our guy Tree very kind, the Chamber of Commerce for
Chicago gave us a little bit of Chicago popcorn, just
the delicious. So on Caleb Williams, is it's fair to
say he's not well spoken? Is that accurate? I believe
that's accurate. He I'm giving this side e. He screwed
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this up on multiple levels. If you do a word
by word breakdown Malar style. The word um is a
filler word. We talked last hour about John Smoltz and
the baseball broadcasting guys who say momentum when they don't
know what to say. Maybe they were golfing all day
and not doing their homework. They just say momentum in
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general conversation, the word um, and we all say it.
I say it. I'm not against saying it. It's just
something you don't want to say all the time because
it means you're not well spoken. And I was told
by a boss that you're in the spoken word business,
so you might want to avoid saying the word um
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more than a few times. Her Caleb Williams not only
did he say I'm a bunch, he also the phrase
isn't and correct me if I'm wrong on this. The
phrase is couldn't care less, not could care less? Right?
Isn't the phrase couldn't care less? Am I wrong on that?
I don't think I'm wrong on that?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Am I?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
All?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Right? Here's let's play that again. Can we play the
audio game? So listen with that knowing the phrase you're
supposed to say is I couldn't care less? And how
long is this soundby I don't want to play a game.
He haven't played this game in a while. Do we
know how long the SoundBite is from Caleb Williams of
the Bears, the Chicago Bears quarterback.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Here, it's like thirty six seconds.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Thirty six seconds? How many times did Caleb Williams say
the word um in thirty six seconds? I'm going, okay,
I'm gonna go, well, you go cool because I'll go
last because I don't want to get boxed in. Go ahead, cool,
I see it.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Well, he kept repeating something else, so I wasn't even
paying attention to the ums, so.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
He slipped him in.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
You could say that, yeah, yes, that's what he kept repeating.
But yeah, so I'm not even sure. I'll just throw
out six.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I'll go twelve and a half. Let's go to the
audio tape. Here's Caleb. Boys, let's count the arms. Caleb Williams,
Bears quarterback. Here we go.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, I could care less. Uh, it's kind of hard.
I think I've said multiple times over my time being here.
Fair not life isn't fair. People are gonna say what they.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Have to say.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
We win, we lose, people have stuff to say. I
was lucky it was not lucky. People have stuff to say.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Hey, you know, I have a bad game.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Have a good game. People have stuff to say. So
it's it's it doesn't matter. We're only worried about what's
going on here within this building and with these guys.
That's all. Well I say about that.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
Yeah, Yeah, I got the I got the over, I
got the all. I wait, I win the Caleb Williams game.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
What do I win, La Rain?
Speaker 7 (08:55):
Or do I win a golden ticket? You did I
win a gold Take it? I want to call it?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Okay, back to the point. So he's not well spoken. Fine,
neither was I when I was his age. However, I
knew couldn't versus could. He said I couldn't care less
he meant to say I couldn't and my nitpicking. Yes,
I'm a talk show host. That's what I do. Oh
my goodness. So if Caleb Williams didn't care about what
Troy Aikman said, he would not have fired up the
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Graham and typed it was lucky ta for Troy Aikman
with a little smirk emoji, and then hit the send
button the post button on that. You don't post a
shadow quote unless it stings a little bit. It just
common sense. This is classic. I'm not mad, I'm laughing energy,
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except you are mad. You are mad. That was a needle.
You were poked with a needle. Troy Aikman essentially called
him not good, lucky on national television, not poised, not
clutch for the game winning drive, lucky with a capitol
(10:14):
L for a guy like Caleb. You talk about coddle,
professional athlete who spent his whole life back in his
days in high school and then going to Oklahoma and
the University of Southern California as the golden boy. That
is a punch to the ego, not the gut, the ego.
Hall of Famer Dallas Cowboy legend. Do you understand, Kyla
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Williams entire life, the Cowboys have sucked. They've been terrible.
Caleb Williams entire life, the Cowboys have med. So Troy
Aikman's like a ghost from a previous life when you
talk about him being a great Dallas Cowboy quarterback. Nonetheless,
here's a Hall of Famer questioning the football IQ of
the quarterback of the Chicago Bears for millions and millions
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of people. And Caleb said he was just messing around. No,
you weren't. If you've got to explain the joke, the
rule is you weren't joke and that's it. And there
is a little bit of truth in every joke. If
he really didn't care, he would have just iced it out.
That's what you do. You say nothing, you do nothing.
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You let the highlights speak for yourself. You say, I
didn't watch the broadcast. I don't know what you're talking about.
I didn't hear any of that noise. I was playing
in the game instead. What did Caleb do? He screenshot it,
he subtweeted, He posted on Instagram like a high schooler
after a breakup. We imagine it's more likely than not
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that Caleb Williams claps back with a manicure, and in
the cartoon bubble in my head, I imagine he would
respond like a gen Z super villain. Not sending flowers,
He's painting fingernails. Don't be shocked if in the next
Chicago Bears game he gets Troy Aikman's face painted on
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his cuticles by the scooters his fingernails and he is
a little circle and then an X right across Akman's face.
Now that would be supervillain activity turning the face. Speaking
of super villain, we go to Cleveland, where the Browns
edge rusher Miles Garrett is publicly enemy number one and
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he has been under siege for attitude issues. After the
Browns had a no show, an absenteeism performance by Miles
Garrett against the Pittsburgh football team, he was asked if
it's harder to keep playing with the Browns as they
are one in five on the season now, and Garrett
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gave a one word answer. Y Ea, h yeah was
his response. Now, this comes after a game in which
the Steelers did whatever they wanted against Miles Garrett. Garrett
had as many sacks as you had. He had as
many quarterback hits as you and I had combined, and
(13:03):
two tackles, no individual tackles. There were assist tackles. He's
been called out by members of the Cleveland fourth Estate
for being a bad leader, among other things. Question, does
Miles Garrett deserve all the noise, all of the noise
being directed his way from the Cleveland media. So Miles Garrett,
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based on the quotes that I've been reading from postgame
in Pittsburgh, sounded like a man floating on a pontoon
boat with a lawn chair and a mimosa as the
Cuyahoga River caught on fire and he wasn't in any
hurry to get off the Cuyahoga River. It was on fire,
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and he just put that lawn chair down there and
he just kind of enjoyed his drink, and that was
It sounded like that guy Rafael from Orlando they called
Last Hour. It's not some Shakespearean tragedy. It's Cleveland. It's
what they do. This is the Cleveland Browns living up
to the franchise charter. Miles Garrett physically is built like
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a Donnis. He's a cheat code. However, it's not Captain
America here. It's not. He's a football mercenary. Two hundred
and four million dollars. Miles Garrett said, I don't want
to play in Cleveland. I don't want to play here.
We can't win here. The Brown said, we want to
keep you. Garrett said, I don't want to play here.
I want to go somewhere else. The Brown said, here's
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two hundred and four million. Miles Garrett says, I love Cleveland.
In January love it got to no trade Claws Fort
Knox a Fort Knox gold Bouyon type payout. The Browns
backed up all of the Brins trucks they could get,
and now they filled it instead of gold boullion, they
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filled it with brown colored monopoly money. I didn't know
they made that and handed him the keys to the vault.
Sit here, knock yourself out. Okay, I'll take that key
to the vault, thank you very much. And he said, yeah, sure,
I'll stay inside the Factory of Sadness. It's warm in
here and the Wi Fi works pretty good. And that's
it has that thousand yard stare, if you know what
(15:16):
I mean, looking off into the distance, like I could
have been there. I could have been there, I could
have been over there. And again, no sacks, no quarterback hit.
It's a whole lot of woe is Me postgame in
the sound bites. And my man signed the deal with
full knowledge that the Browns are essentially a Netflix reboot
of their own misery every season. It's it's not unfair criticism,
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this is the rent coming due. This is part of
the deal when you cash this time. He signed the deal,
the biggest non quarterback check in the history of that
business the town. Those that care about the football team
in the town, they're like, well, listen, this place eats quarterbacks.
It's a graveyard for quarterbacks. And you're supposed to get
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to quarterbacks on the other team like a great white
shark in a kiddie pool. You're not doing that. And
you don't get to cry about the current when you
built your house on the river, you don't get to
do that. Miles Garrett isn't being picked on. He's being
paid on a lot of money. And the Cleveland marching
in Chaudow Society are watching their armored tank show right
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going to battle, and somehow that armored tank gets stuck
in a pothole the size of Lake Erie. That's not good.
And so Miles Garrett wanted the bag. He got the bag.
You got the bag. What's in the bag? Money, money, money,
a lot of money. You got the bag. Congratulations, and
now you get the heat. He's got a no trade clause?
(16:49):
Is it outrageous? I'm thinking out loud here, He asked
a question. Is it outrageous to think the trade deadlines
clemming up in a couple of weeks. Here the Cleveland
Browns would go to Miles Garrett, it's not working out.
It's not you, it's us. You have the no trade.
Where would you like to go? Let's make a deal.
Let's get you out of here. You got your money.
(17:10):
I know the salary caps a problem, but we can
finagle and cook the books because that's what we do,
and we'll find you a new team. Is there a
world where that happens? Would a team like the New
England Patriots or the La Rams trade a bunch of
draft picks to get Miles Garrett? And where would he
even want to go? If it's as toxic as it appears,
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it's not out of the realm of possibility. All right,
fun point to the world Wide Web, where former Eagle
center Jason Kelsey is fighting back against misinformation. What's he
a politician? Yeah, he's upset with social media now. Kelsey
went on the platform formerly known as Twitter, now known
as x to make a public decree and a plea
(17:58):
to his followers, and he said, listen, do not believe.
Listen to me. Do not believe anything attributed to Travis
Kelcey or Jason Kelcey or anyone named Kelsey unless it
comes from the direct platform. He said, we don't know,
you know, you don't know for sure what's going on
(18:18):
and all that stuff. You got to go here. This
is where you need to be now. There were multiple
posts that made the rounds on social media that quoted
Jason Kelsey and gave let's just say, they gave an
impression that he was a douche. It was about Bad
Bunny and the halftime show, and Jason Kelsey pointed out
(18:41):
that he said, listen there, those are not my words.
He didn't say that directly. That's clearly what he was
upset about. So the question what is your viewpoint on
Jason Kelsey attempting to fight social media misinformation? So this
is the attempt is there? This is the attempt to
(19:02):
go to the Sahara Desert and get all the gear
you need to survive the wretched conditions in the Sahara
Desert and then saying I'm going to make this a
great desert. I'm going to plow the Sahara Desert and
I'm going to use a plastic four. It is a
futile effort. Jason Kelse is entering the fund zone. He's
(19:24):
playing whack a mole. He's playing whack a mole in
an attempt to whack down bogus stories about him faster
on X than the other ones pop up. Now you
and I both know this is what It is, an
unwinnable game. The house always wins, and Kelsey's crime here
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is not moral outrage. That's not what this is about.
It's believing that this digital funhouse can be reasoned with.
That if Jason Kelsey stands on a digital soapbox from
the bully pulpit and points out that's a bogus story,
that's a bogus story, and that's a bogus story and
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waves his arms in the air everywhere, people will suddenly
stop sharing those stories. That is not how the matrix works.
It's not the matrix doesn't work like that. This is
the platform where conspiracy meets clickbait. Bots marry bad actors,
and the bots and bad actors have babies. They give
birth to parody accounts with an extra underscore masquerading as
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official sources. You do not win here. The whole game
is to survive, and if you cannot survive, you ignore.
So it's either survive or ignore, and therefore you do survive.
But Jason Kelsey is doing what you'd say, good people.
They're trying to keep his name clean, his good name unsullied.
The trouble is on social media. The lie. The lie
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is already running the marathon and at the twenty mile mark,
while the truth is still trying to tie at shoelaces.
It's just a mess. It's just a mess. And by
the time Kelsey hits send on his public plea, the
false quote has been screenshotted, memified, reposted, and stripped of
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any context and passed along by thousands of fake accounts
with those little egg things and user names like NFL
fanboy nine eight two seven two three. It is a
noble effort, but it is fighting a wildfire with a
nerve super soaker. The odds of success are not good.
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The digital wildfire does not care about the truth, the
facts and all that stuff. It's fed by rage. The
rage clicks right. We know human nature. People both love
to complain about negativity and are helpless to stop consuming it.
It's the people that do the news business learn this
long ago that if it bleeds, it leads. If it's negative,
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people love it. And it's the fight or flight nature
of the human condition that you need that information and
in social media, if you're upset, you're engaged, and that
gets monetized by the algorithm, and you don't even blink
when you're you know, some of these reputations on the line,
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you don't worry about. Jason Kelsey's again, he can't win this.
If there's any lesson here, it's not for him, it's
for everyone else to stop treating every single stupid post
like the holy scriptures that are out there. Stop rewarding
the dopes with engagement. And Jason Kelsey's swinging his mallet,
remember playing Whack a mole and he's hitting that next
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mole and the next and the next, and the next
and the net and we're just watching here laughing and
wasn't that funny. That's that's not gonna work. That's that's
not gonna work at all. It is the Ben Malor Show.
Now hopefully this will work. If you'd like to be
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You know.
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We'll get to that coming up here in a couple
of minutes. Also, I guess some other stuff to take
care of. But let's go to the phones. And who
do we have is your Eenie Meani miny Mo. And
let's say hello to e Dog who's on Long Island. Hello,
eed Dog, Welcome, Welcome, How you doing?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Benday, I should say morning, I'm having a good day.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Well you're having a good morning on a good day.
It's not daytime, it's you know, but listen, I gotta
tell you a good story.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Okay, okay. Remember that Tako host in New York. His
name was Steve Summers.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, Steve Summers did overnights for years, legend in radio. Yeah,
she was it.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Well he got he wanted to pick a fight with
me one day.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. Steve Summers is
like one of the most mellow people in the world.
Why would he want to fight you?
Speaker 4 (26:42):
He is? Hearn like when I sat on the radio,
I talked about my dad and stuff, you know what
I mean, talking about that stuff. He just wants me.
I don't know, he just didn't like it when it's
what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
So, so he wanted you to come down. How long ago?
This must have been a while ago. How long ago
is this?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah, what's that? Twenty twenty five years? But listen what happened.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
So this was when they were at the uh the
in in Queens, at the Queen's studios that were there, Yeah,
there were I was at. Yeah, I was there. I
did I did some shows out of there years ago.
It was, uh, there's a movie studio over there. They
did the Cosby Show and some other stuff over there.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Go ahead, okay. So I called him up and I said, listen, Steve.
I called uh actresses and models and asked them for
the picture and the signature. And see someone goes, what
about me? And I go, sorry, Steve. That's I said,
sorry Steve. And I don't swing that way anyway. Program today?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Oh no, no, no no. Oh. So that that that
inspired a very.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Metal also about the the drunk guy who was drinking.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, seven hours. That guy was drinking for seven hours.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
He reminds me of a thirteenth stepper. You know, he
reminds you what a thirteenth stepper.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
They're all thirteen stepper Yeah, there you go. You got
a lot of jokes you've been saving. You don't call
that offense. You gotta save your jokes.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Yeah, I gotta save my jokes. But oh, Melissa is
the best. She was there with a boyfriend today and
he bought us some taco bell.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That's a big spender man going for the taco bell there.
It's a little awkward though. I mean, you're you're into Melissa,
but she's got a boyfriend. It's kind of weird right
in that odd Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
She's cool though. She bought me lunch too.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I thought you said he bought you'd be lunch. She
bought you all.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
He bought her and meat taco bell, and then she
bought me a pretzel and a pizza and the two
orange juices.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Okay, it's a lot of it's a lot of food.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I gotta see. Yeah, I got to see my therapist tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Congratulations. Always a great day when you see this therapist.
That's wonderful.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I told her I have a foot fetter. So she
wears good feet for me.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
She wears good feet. What does that mean? I don't
know what that means.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I like she wears her shoes.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah, he's gonna be uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
He doesn't have a He's just making this up. He's
doing She's trying his stick out, is what he's doing.
You would admit that you're just trying to shtick out here,
that none of this is actually true, right you would
you would admit that.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yes, no, definitely not anyway, are.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You not done? There's some other there's some other material.
And this will be a period. You'll be at the
at the Great Chuckles Comedy Club, You'll.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Be appearing at Men and Vladiman Guerrero says, hello, baby.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Okay, thank you, go away. I'm hanging up on you. Okay,
there is are our friend e Dog. Just be happy
because years ago we had a guy named Joe Dog
who's a friend of the dog, and we'd go from
Joe Dog to Eat Dog, and then Joe Dog would
call back, so we'd have back to back dogs on
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the show. The friend, though, grew up and moved on
and there you go. So anyway, let's go back to
the phones and we'll say hello to Scott in the Commonwealth. Hello,
Scott in the Commonwealth, welcome her.
Speaker 10 (30:29):
Hey Ben, how you doing mate, mate?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Are you Australian?
Speaker 10 (30:34):
No, I'm not, but I like to say that because
it's different. It's like in saying hey instead of saying hey, guys,
what's up. And it's just it's just a nice way
of being a friendly with people.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
That's all.
Speaker 10 (30:49):
Okay, No, yeah, that's it. So I got something fun
for you guys. I want you guys. You know how
you guys like to like you. Cooper and An always
like to challenge each other, like the Price of right thing.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yes, we love games. We're all about games. We have
to keep ourselves entertained.
Speaker 10 (31:11):
Okay, okay, you reready this one act. I've been a
home for a while, so I thought a good one. Okay,
remember Malice at the Palace, my favorite sports brawl. Remember
you were talking about like these Cincinnati Bangals since the
chup thing?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, yeah, of course I love the Malice of the Palace.
One of my favorite nights doing talk radio is after
the Mouice at the Palace. It was amazing. Had four hours.
I did one topic. You realize, Scott, I usually talk
about things different every hour. That night I did four
hours every I didn't talk about anything else but the
Mouse of the Palace. It was amazing.
Speaker 10 (31:48):
No, are you putting me on orre you actually doing
sports talk that night, because that's been a minute, as
you would.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Say, it has been a minute. You no, I believe
it or not. I've actually actually working here at Fox
Sports Radio that night and we were on in Detroit
and Indianapolis on the flagship radio stations of the Pacers
and the Pistons at the time. And so it was.
It was great. It was awesome that the punch the
(32:16):
Germaine O'Neill, you know 'n our test going in the crowd,
Steve Jackson, the whole thing, the whole thing was amazing.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Okay, okay, so here's the game.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Will Okay, we're playing the game. Here we go. This
is Scott who's not Australian but likes to say Australian phrases.
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Yeah, yeah, I do.
Speaker 10 (32:38):
So you Coop and Lorena get to pick if you
remember when the players were the best part of the
whole thing was when the players are going down getting
out of the whole place. How many beers got pelted
(32:59):
on the remember the fan of pelting people with beer?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yes, yes, it was raining down trash, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:06):
I want I want you Coop and Lorena to pick
how many beers got pelted? And Coop and Lorena can
look up to the video and who's ever closest?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Oh wait, wait, wait wait wait wait I thought you.
I thought you had already done the legwork on this.
Speaker 10 (33:25):
No, no, no, no, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Oh my wait a minute. That's a terrible game, Scott. No, no,
stop the music, stop the music. Like all right, Scott
little radio one on one buddy, all right. I like you.
I think you're gonna be a good call. Okay, listen.
If you're gonna call up and say I got a game,
you don't tell us how to play the game. You say,
I've already gotten the answer, and here's the question, and
(33:49):
who's the closest? It's not, hey, Coop, go count how
many beers were thrown at Ben Wallace that were not
Ben Wallace because he was playing for the Pistons. But yeah,
go ahead.
Speaker 10 (34:00):
In fearess. Can't Coop or Lorena look up the video
and actually.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Count a basing segment, not after segment.
Speaker 10 (34:11):
No, but you guys can figure it out.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
And then that's way too much work. What are you
talking about, Aley, What do you expect them to?
Speaker 9 (34:17):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
My god? So thank you? All right, cool, I sent
you some audio. I hopefully you have that ready to go.
So NFL head coach with a drop the mic moment. Now,
this is the guy who, listen, last week got fined
one hundred grand because he got into the face of
(34:39):
his idiot running back that fumbled the ball before crossing
the goal line. We're talking about Jonathan Gannon, the head
coach of the Cardinals. The Cardinals have had a bunch
of players out with injury and it's a ragtag squad.
They suck yet again, and so Gannon was asked, the
coach of the Cardinals was asked about how you deal
with all of these injuries and how you deal with
(35:02):
bringing players And you'll hear I think you'll hear the
question on this and the answer. But listen, this is
one of the great drop the mike moments from Jonathan Gannon.
Let's go to the audio tape. Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Well, how early in your career did you have to
start trying to figure out how to take the emotion
out of coaching As far as when you have all
these injuries and you have all these different pieces, when's
the first time that you.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Can recall it?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Two thousand and seven when our quarterback went to jail.
Oh so good. Oh you might not know this because
it's been almost twenty years. Loraina, do you know who
he's referencing there? No, I have no idea. So there
was this guy named Michael Vick who played for the
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Atlanta Falcons and was running a dog fighting ring and
got arrested while playing. Yes, and Gannon was a young
coach on the Atlanta Falcons staff when Vick, who was
an MVP level player, most popular player in the NFL
at the time, not Tom Brady, not Peyton Manning, had
a cult following Michael Vick and he got dinged for
(36:11):
dog fighting. And Gannon was on this. But just the
dead pan delivery on that is just great, just absolutely great. Anyway,
he's the Ben Malor show. I thought that was pretty cool.
We've got Mallard of the third degree. Here's the Insta trivia.
You want to answer it on X at Ben Maller.
That's at Ben Maller. Here's the Insta trivia. Falcons running
back by John Robinson is the second player to reach
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four hundred and fifty rushing yards three hundred receiving yards
through the first five games of a season in NFL history.
He joins Blank again. Falcon running back by John Robinson,
the second player to get four hundred and fifty rushing
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of a season in NFL history. He joins Blank. That's
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the third Degree where we predict the future on Malard
to the third Degree. But here's the instant trivia. Falcon
running Back by John Robinson becomes the second player ever
to reach four hundred and fifty yards rushing three hundred
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receiving yards through the first five games of a season
in NFL. His story and who does he join? Let's
find out here Jack the Lane guests by Bobby in Florida,
Sue Byrd, who's forty five today? From the Late Night
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Rob in Vegas, as Rowdy Roddy, Piper Blair Thomas from
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I forty Ian. That's his answer, Malard prop guy says,
it's King Eddie who is celebrating a birthday today? Is
that is today's birthday? Today? Rob?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Is it?
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I don't know? A goat man going with lou Holtz
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ninety one, Buffalo Bill, It's smaller? How about that? To
the third degree? This is one big Ben gets grilled Cooperloo.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
There are some analysts suggesting that Saints quarterback Spencer Rattler
has played well enough to deserve a look beyond twenty
twenty five. They point out that Rattler actually has similar,
if not better stats than Michael Pennocks junior this season. Ben,
does Rattler deserve to be considered long term?
Speaker 1 (39:39):
No, because Michael Pennix junior does not look like the
long term quarterback in Atlanta. So No, the Saints suck,
and they're gonna get a top five pick in the draft,
and they're going to draft the quarterback who will also
likely suck. But no, I don't buy what they're selling there.
And a lot of those numbers are garbage time numbers.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
Next, Kyle Schwarber is coming off the best season of
his career and the timing couldn't be better. As he
heads into free agency, it's being reported that he'll be
seeking a five year deal worth an average of thirty
million per year. Ben, do you think the Phillies will
pony have to keep him? Uh?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, I think he's perfect. You got the designated hitter
in that town. Schwarber's getting a little older, it becomes
a problem, but you'd still hit home lunch. He's not
gonna be able. He's never been a fast guy. I
think it'll work out for him in Philly.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Next, member of the Celtics media. Members of the Celtics
media played a pickup game against members of the Celtics
coaching staff got blown out fifty seven to four.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Ben, if you had to recruit members of.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
The FSR staff to play a game against Celtics coaches,
who would you choose? And you can't pick any former
pro athletes?
Speaker 10 (40:41):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, I mean my guy Rob Parker. We got a
lot of like knucklehead guy. Like, we got a lot
of like, I don't know, Patrick Moor cert Times yeah,
not a lot of athletic people that work here. That's
the problem. No, yeah, he's the problem. All right, here
you go.
Bear down. It's our numb bird two, our number two.
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hour two. Do you believe Bear's quarterback Caleb Williams couldn't
couldn't care less. He meant to say couldn't, but he
said couldn't care less about Troy Aikman's comments. Also, does
Miles Garrett deserve the noise being directed his way from
the Cleveland media for his lackluster performance of Late for
the Brownies and what's your viewpoint on Jason Kelsey attempting
(01:10):
to fight social media misinformation. We'll go there as well.
All of it coming your way right now here. It
is our number two. It is the bear reality. Welcome.
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our lead this hour get away from the baseball. We'll
talk more about that if you want, shockingly radio silence
from Seattle. We normally get a lot of calls from Seattle,
but I guess when the Mariners lose, they don't want
to call our lead. This hour, though, is from the
Windy City and the Chicago Bears winners on Monday Night,
(02:54):
but apparently losers according to the broadcast, Fans outraged. How
where are you who not licked the toes of our quarterback?
Very unhappy, very unhappy with Troy Aikman and his performance
on Monday Night football. En If you didn't see the
broadcast or hear the audio on this, maybe not Aikman.
(03:16):
Let's just say that he did not use kid gloves,
He did not bite his tongue, he did not hold back.
In his critique of the Chicago Bears quarterback Caleb Williams,
calling out several of his many mistakes with the Bears
late throws, he used the term luck to describe some
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of some of Caleb Williams and the Bears positive plays,
including the game breaking play that allowed the Bears to
get back into the game to catch and run by
Swift That said it was a lucky play. So he
had that. Then you had the Chicago coach Ben Johnson,
who even addressed the commentary in a couple of different
parts of his news conference. Of course, it's very awkward
(04:02):
because these coaches are they don't watch the game, they're
doing the game, and they always like to say, like,
we don't pay attention to the media and what the
media says. But he did address it. And then Caleb
Williams also the man who was lucky, the man who
was late with throws. Caleb Williams also jabbed at the
Monday night football broadcast. Now he posted a photo carousel
(04:27):
on Instagram Caleb Williams with a caption that included Aikman's initials.
It was lucky and then it had the letters TA
for Troy Aikman. The caption read in part, so Williams
was asked about that and this and all of this stuff,
and here's what the Bears quarterback had to say. Take
(04:48):
a listen, let's go the audio tape.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Maybe you don't think, yeah, I get care less. It's
kind of how I've I think I've said multiple times
over my time being here. Fair life isn't fair. People
are gonna say what they.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Have to say.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We win, we lose. People have stuff to say. It
was lucky, it was not lucky. People have stuff to say,
you know, you know, have a bad game, have a
good game. You know, people have stuff to say. So
it's it's it doesn't matter. We're only worried about what's
going on here within this building and with these guys.
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So that's all all I can say about that.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
All right, let us discuss the question do you believe
Bears quarterback Caleb Williams? Could I love? He screwed this up?
Could care less about Troy Aikman's comments. I've got super villain,
pontoon boat, and plastic fork, and we will combine all
of these things together and we're gonna make some delicious,
(05:49):
delicious Chicago popcorn, which we were gifted, by the way,
our guy Tree very kind, the Chamber of Commerce for
Chicago gave us a little bit of Chicago popcorn, just
the delicious. So on Caleb Williams, is it's fair to
say he's not well spoken? Is that accurate? I believe
that's accurate. He I'm giving this side e. He screwed
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this up on multiple levels. If you do a word
by word breakdown Malar style. The word um is a
filler word. We talked last hour about John Smoltz and
the baseball broadcasting guys who say momentum when they don't
know what to say. Maybe they were golfing all day
and not doing their homework. They just say momentum in
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general conversation, the word um, and we all say it.
I say it. I'm not against saying it. It's just
something you don't want to say all the time because
it means you're not well spoken. And I was told
by a boss that you're in the spoken word business,
so you might want to avoid saying the word um
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more than a few times. Her Caleb Williams not only
did he say I'm a bunch, he also the phrase
isn't and correct me if I'm wrong on this. The
phrase is couldn't care less, not could care less? Right?
Isn't the phrase couldn't care less? Am I wrong on that?
I don't think I'm wrong on that?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Am I?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
All?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Right? Here's let's play that again. Can we play the
audio game? So listen with that knowing the phrase you're
supposed to say is I couldn't care less? And how
long is this soundby I don't want to play a game.
He haven't played this game in a while. Do we
know how long the SoundBite is from Caleb Williams of
the Bears, the Chicago Bears quarterback.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Here, it's like thirty six seconds.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Thirty six seconds? How many times did Caleb Williams say
the word um in thirty six seconds? I'm going, okay,
I'm gonna go, well, you go cool because I'll go
last because I don't want to get boxed in. Go ahead, cool,
I see it.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Well, he kept repeating something else, so I wasn't even
paying attention to the ums, so.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
He slipped him in.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
You could say that, yeah, yes, that's what he kept repeating.
But yeah, so I'm not even sure. I'll just throw
out six.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I'll go twelve and a half. Let's go to the
audio tape. Here's Caleb. Boys, let's count the arms. Caleb Williams,
Bears quarterback. Here we go.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, I could care less. Uh, it's kind of hard.
I think I've said multiple times over my time being here.
Fair not life isn't fair. People are gonna say what they.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Have to say.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
We win, we lose, people have stuff to say. I
was lucky it was not lucky. People have stuff to say.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Hey, you know, I have a bad game.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Have a good game. People have stuff to say. So
it's it's it doesn't matter. We're only worried about what's
going on here within this building and with these guys.
That's all. Well I say about that.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
Yeah, Yeah, I got the I got the over, I
got the all. I wait, I win the Caleb Williams game.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
What do I win, La Rain?
Speaker 7 (08:55):
Or do I win a golden ticket? You did I
win a gold Take it? I want to call it?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Okay, back to the point. So he's not well spoken. Fine,
neither was I when I was his age. However, I
knew couldn't versus could. He said I couldn't care less
he meant to say I couldn't and my nitpicking. Yes,
I'm a talk show host. That's what I do. Oh
my goodness. So if Caleb Williams didn't care about what
Troy Aikman said, he would not have fired up the
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Graham and typed it was lucky ta for Troy Aikman
with a little smirk emoji, and then hit the send
button the post button on that. You don't post a
shadow quote unless it stings a little bit. It just
common sense. This is classic. I'm not mad, I'm laughing energy,
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except you are mad. You are mad. That was a needle.
You were poked with a needle. Troy Aikman essentially called
him not good, lucky on national television, not poised, not
clutch for the game winning drive, lucky with a capitol
(10:14):
L for a guy like Caleb. You talk about coddle,
professional athlete who spent his whole life back in his
days in high school and then going to Oklahoma and
the University of Southern California as the golden boy. That
is a punch to the ego, not the gut, the ego.
Hall of Famer Dallas Cowboy legend. Do you understand, Kyla
(10:36):
Williams entire life, the Cowboys have sucked. They've been terrible.
Caleb Williams entire life, the Cowboys have med. So Troy
Aikman's like a ghost from a previous life when you
talk about him being a great Dallas Cowboy quarterback. Nonetheless,
here's a Hall of Famer questioning the football IQ of
the quarterback of the Chicago Bears for millions and millions
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of people. And Caleb said he was just messing around. No,
you weren't. If you've got to explain the joke, the
rule is you weren't joke and that's it. And there
is a little bit of truth in every joke. If
he really didn't care, he would have just iced it out.
That's what you do. You say nothing, you do nothing.
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You let the highlights speak for yourself. You say, I
didn't watch the broadcast. I don't know what you're talking about.
I didn't hear any of that noise. I was playing
in the game instead. What did Caleb do? He screenshot it,
he subtweeted, He posted on Instagram like a high schooler
after a breakup. We imagine it's more likely than not
(11:40):
that Caleb Williams claps back with a manicure, and in
the cartoon bubble in my head, I imagine he would
respond like a gen Z super villain. Not sending flowers,
He's painting fingernails. Don't be shocked if in the next
Chicago Bears game he gets Troy Aikman's face painted on
(12:02):
his cuticles by the scooters his fingernails and he is
a little circle and then an X right across Akman's face.
Now that would be supervillain activity turning the face. Speaking
of super villain, we go to Cleveland, where the Browns
edge rusher Miles Garrett is publicly enemy number one and
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he has been under siege for attitude issues. After the
Browns had a no show, an absenteeism performance by Miles
Garrett against the Pittsburgh football team, he was asked if
it's harder to keep playing with the Browns as they
are one in five on the season now, and Garrett
(12:42):
gave a one word answer. Y Ea, h yeah was
his response. Now, this comes after a game in which
the Steelers did whatever they wanted against Miles Garrett. Garrett
had as many sacks as you had. He had as
many quarterback hits as you and I had combined, and
(13:03):
two tackles, no individual tackles. There were assist tackles. He's
been called out by members of the Cleveland fourth Estate
for being a bad leader, among other things. Question, does
Miles Garrett deserve all the noise, all of the noise
being directed his way from the Cleveland media. So Miles Garrett,
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based on the quotes that I've been reading from postgame
in Pittsburgh, sounded like a man floating on a pontoon
boat with a lawn chair and a mimosa as the
Cuyahoga River caught on fire and he wasn't in any
hurry to get off the Cuyahoga River. It was on fire,
(13:50):
and he just put that lawn chair down there and
he just kind of enjoyed his drink, and that was
It sounded like that guy Rafael from Orlando they called
Last Hour. It's not some Shakespearean tragedy. It's Cleveland. It's
what they do. This is the Cleveland Browns living up
to the franchise charter. Miles Garrett physically is built like
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a Donnis. He's a cheat code. However, it's not Captain
America here. It's not. He's a football mercenary. Two hundred
and four million dollars. Miles Garrett said, I don't want
to play in Cleveland. I don't want to play here.
We can't win here. The Brown said, we want to
keep you. Garrett said, I don't want to play here.
I want to go somewhere else. The Brown said, here's
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two hundred and four million. Miles Garrett says, I love Cleveland.
In January love it got to no trade Claws Fort
Knox a Fort Knox gold Bouyon type payout. The Browns
backed up all of the Brins trucks they could get,
and now they filled it instead of gold boullion, they
(14:53):
filled it with brown colored monopoly money. I didn't know
they made that and handed him the keys to the vault.
Sit here, knock yourself out. Okay, I'll take that key
to the vault, thank you very much. And he said, yeah, sure,
I'll stay inside the Factory of Sadness. It's warm in
here and the Wi Fi works pretty good. And that's
it has that thousand yard stare, if you know what
(15:16):
I mean, looking off into the distance, like I could
have been there. I could have been there, I could
have been over there. And again, no sacks, no quarterback hit.
It's a whole lot of woe is Me postgame in
the sound bites. And my man signed the deal with
full knowledge that the Browns are essentially a Netflix reboot
of their own misery every season. It's it's not unfair criticism,
(15:40):
this is the rent coming due. This is part of
the deal when you cash this time. He signed the deal,
the biggest non quarterback check in the history of that
business the town. Those that care about the football team
in the town, they're like, well, listen, this place eats quarterbacks.
It's a graveyard for quarterbacks. And you're supposed to get
(16:02):
to quarterbacks on the other team like a great white
shark in a kiddie pool. You're not doing that. And
you don't get to cry about the current when you
built your house on the river, you don't get to
do that. Miles Garrett isn't being picked on. He's being
paid on a lot of money. And the Cleveland marching
in Chaudow Society are watching their armored tank show right
(16:27):
going to battle, and somehow that armored tank gets stuck
in a pothole the size of Lake Erie. That's not good.
And so Miles Garrett wanted the bag. He got the bag.
You got the bag. What's in the bag? Money, money, money,
a lot of money. You got the bag. Congratulations, and
now you get the heat. He's got a no trade clause?
(16:49):
Is it outrageous? I'm thinking out loud here, He asked
a question. Is it outrageous to think the trade deadlines
clemming up in a couple of weeks. Here the Cleveland
Browns would go to Miles Garrett, it's not working out.
It's not you, it's us. You have the no trade.
Where would you like to go? Let's make a deal.
Let's get you out of here. You got your money.
(17:10):
I know the salary caps a problem, but we can
finagle and cook the books because that's what we do,
and we'll find you a new team. Is there a
world where that happens? Would a team like the New
England Patriots or the La Rams trade a bunch of
draft picks to get Miles Garrett? And where would he
even want to go? If it's as toxic as it appears,
(17:33):
it's not out of the realm of possibility. All right,
fun point to the world Wide Web, where former Eagle
center Jason Kelsey is fighting back against misinformation. What's he
a politician? Yeah, he's upset with social media now. Kelsey
went on the platform formerly known as Twitter, now known
as x to make a public decree and a plea
(17:58):
to his followers, and he said, listen, do not believe.
Listen to me. Do not believe anything attributed to Travis
Kelcey or Jason Kelcey or anyone named Kelsey unless it
comes from the direct platform. He said, we don't know,
you know, you don't know for sure what's going on
(18:18):
and all that stuff. You got to go here. This
is where you need to be now. There were multiple
posts that made the rounds on social media that quoted
Jason Kelsey and gave let's just say, they gave an
impression that he was a douche. It was about Bad
Bunny and the halftime show, and Jason Kelsey pointed out
(18:41):
that he said, listen there, those are not my words.
He didn't say that directly. That's clearly what he was
upset about. So the question what is your viewpoint on
Jason Kelsey attempting to fight social media misinformation? So this
is the attempt is there? This is the attempt to
(19:02):
go to the Sahara Desert and get all the gear
you need to survive the wretched conditions in the Sahara
Desert and then saying I'm going to make this a
great desert. I'm going to plow the Sahara Desert and
I'm going to use a plastic four. It is a
futile effort. Jason Kelse is entering the fund zone. He's
(19:24):
playing whack a mole. He's playing whack a mole in
an attempt to whack down bogus stories about him faster
on X than the other ones pop up. Now you
and I both know this is what It is, an
unwinnable game. The house always wins, and Kelsey's crime here
(19:44):
is not moral outrage. That's not what this is about.
It's believing that this digital funhouse can be reasoned with.
That if Jason Kelsey stands on a digital soapbox from
the bully pulpit and points out that's a bogus story,
that's a bogus story, and that's a bogus story and
(20:08):
waves his arms in the air everywhere, people will suddenly
stop sharing those stories. That is not how the matrix works.
It's not the matrix doesn't work like that. This is
the platform where conspiracy meets clickbait. Bots marry bad actors,
and the bots and bad actors have babies. They give
birth to parody accounts with an extra underscore masquerading as
(20:31):
official sources. You do not win here. The whole game
is to survive, and if you cannot survive, you ignore.
So it's either survive or ignore, and therefore you do survive.
But Jason Kelsey is doing what you'd say, good people.
They're trying to keep his name clean, his good name unsullied.
The trouble is on social media. The lie. The lie
(20:54):
is already running the marathon and at the twenty mile mark,
while the truth is still trying to tie at shoelaces.
It's just a mess. It's just a mess. And by
the time Kelsey hits send on his public plea, the
false quote has been screenshotted, memified, reposted, and stripped of
(21:17):
any context and passed along by thousands of fake accounts
with those little egg things and user names like NFL
fanboy nine eight two seven two three. It is a
noble effort, but it is fighting a wildfire with a
nerve super soaker. The odds of success are not good.
(21:39):
The digital wildfire does not care about the truth, the
facts and all that stuff. It's fed by rage. The
rage clicks right. We know human nature. People both love
to complain about negativity and are helpless to stop consuming it.
It's the people that do the news business learn this
long ago that if it bleeds, it leads. If it's negative,
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people love it. And it's the fight or flight nature
of the human condition that you need that information and
in social media, if you're upset, you're engaged, and that
gets monetized by the algorithm, and you don't even blink
when you're you know, some of these reputations on the line,
(22:22):
you don't worry about. Jason Kelsey's again, he can't win this.
If there's any lesson here, it's not for him, it's
for everyone else to stop treating every single stupid post
like the holy scriptures that are out there. Stop rewarding
the dopes with engagement. And Jason Kelsey's swinging his mallet,
remember playing Whack a mole and he's hitting that next
(22:43):
mole and the next and the next, and the next
and the net and we're just watching here laughing and
wasn't that funny. That's that's not gonna work. That's that's
not gonna work at all. It is the Ben Malor Show.
Now hopefully this will work. If you'd like to be
part eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven
seven nine nine six six three sixty nine, also on
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straight ahead, an NFL head coach with a drop the
Mike moment, an NFL head coach where they drop the
Mike momot. We'll get to that, and we will.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
Do it.
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three six nine. Got the NFL Head Coach Where they
dropped the Mike Malmot. That is just amazing.
Speaker 10 (25:47):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
We'll get to that coming up here in a couple
of minutes. Also, I guess some other stuff to take
care of. But let's go to the phones. And who
do we have is your Eenie Meani miny Mo. And
let's say hello to e Dog who's on Long Island. Hello,
eed Dog, Welcome, Welcome, How you doing?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Benday, I should say morning, I'm having a good day.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Well you're having a good morning on a good day.
It's not daytime, it's you know, but listen, I gotta
tell you a good story.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Okay, okay. Remember that Tako host in New York. His
name was Steve Summers.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, Steve Summers did overnights for years, legend in radio. Yeah,
she was it.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Well he got he wanted to pick a fight with
me one day.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. Steve Summers is
like one of the most mellow people in the world.
Why would he want to fight you?
Speaker 4 (26:42):
He is? Hearn like when I sat on the radio,
I talked about my dad and stuff, you know what
I mean, talking about that stuff. He just wants me.
I don't know, he just didn't like it when it's
what I was saying.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
So, so he wanted you to come down. How long ago?
This must have been a while ago. How long ago
is this?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah, what's that? Twenty twenty five years? But listen what happened.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
So this was when they were at the uh the
in in Queens, at the Queen's studios that were there, Yeah,
there were I was at. Yeah, I was there. I
did I did some shows out of there years ago.
It was, uh, there's a movie studio over there. They
did the Cosby Show and some other stuff over there.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Go ahead, okay. So I called him up and I said, listen, Steve.
I called uh actresses and models and asked them for
the picture and the signature. And see someone goes, what
about me? And I go, sorry, Steve. That's I said,
sorry Steve. And I don't swing that way anyway. Program today?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Oh no, no, no no. Oh. So that that that
inspired a very.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Metal also about the the drunk guy who was drinking.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, seven hours. That guy was drinking for seven hours.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
He reminds me of a thirteenth stepper. You know, he
reminds you what a thirteenth stepper.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
They're all thirteen stepper Yeah, there you go. You got
a lot of jokes you've been saving. You don't call
that offense. You gotta save your jokes.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Yeah, I gotta save my jokes. But oh, Melissa is
the best. She was there with a boyfriend today and
he bought us some taco bell.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That's a big spender man going for the taco bell there.
It's a little awkward though. I mean, you're you're into Melissa,
but she's got a boyfriend. It's kind of weird right
in that odd Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
She's cool though. She bought me lunch too.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I thought you said he bought you'd be lunch. She
bought you all.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
He bought her and meat taco bell, and then she
bought me a pretzel and a pizza and the two
orange juices.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Okay, it's a lot of it's a lot of food.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I gotta see. Yeah, I got to see my therapist tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Congratulations. Always a great day when you see this therapist.
That's wonderful.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I told her I have a foot fetter. So she
wears good feet for me.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
She wears good feet. What does that mean? I don't
know what that means.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I like she wears her shoes.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah, he's gonna be uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
He doesn't have a He's just making this up. He's
doing She's trying his stick out, is what he's doing.
You would admit that you're just trying to shtick out here,
that none of this is actually true, right you would
you would admit that.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yes, no, definitely not anyway, are.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You not done? There's some other there's some other material.
And this will be a period. You'll be at the
at the Great Chuckles Comedy Club, You'll.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Be appearing at Men and Vladiman Guerrero says, hello, baby.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Okay, thank you, go away. I'm hanging up on you. Okay,
there is are our friend e Dog. Just be happy
because years ago we had a guy named Joe Dog
who's a friend of the dog, and we'd go from
Joe Dog to Eat Dog, and then Joe Dog would
call back, so we'd have back to back dogs on
(30:11):
the show. The friend, though, grew up and moved on
and there you go. So anyway, let's go back to
the phones and we'll say hello to Scott in the Commonwealth. Hello,
Scott in the Commonwealth, welcome her.
Speaker 10 (30:29):
Hey Ben, how you doing mate, mate?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Are you Australian?
Speaker 10 (30:34):
No, I'm not, but I like to say that because
it's different. It's like in saying hey instead of saying hey, guys,
what's up. And it's just it's just a nice way
of being a friendly with people.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
That's all.
Speaker 10 (30:49):
Okay, No, yeah, that's it. So I got something fun
for you guys. I want you guys. You know how
you guys like to like you. Cooper and An always
like to challenge each other, like the Price of right thing.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yes, we love games. We're all about games. We have
to keep ourselves entertained.
Speaker 10 (31:11):
Okay, okay, you reready this one act. I've been a
home for a while, so I thought a good one. Okay,
remember Malice at the Palace, my favorite sports brawl. Remember
you were talking about like these Cincinnati Bangals since the
chup thing?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, yeah, of course I love the Malice of the Palace.
One of my favorite nights doing talk radio is after
the Mouice at the Palace. It was amazing. Had four hours.
I did one topic. You realize, Scott, I usually talk
about things different every hour. That night I did four
hours every I didn't talk about anything else but the
Mouse of the Palace. It was amazing.
Speaker 10 (31:48):
No, are you putting me on orre you actually doing
sports talk that night, because that's been a minute, as
you would.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Say, it has been a minute. You no, I believe
it or not. I've actually actually working here at Fox
Sports Radio that night and we were on in Detroit
and Indianapolis on the flagship radio stations of the Pacers
and the Pistons at the time. And so it was.
It was great. It was awesome that the punch the
(32:16):
Germaine O'Neill, you know 'n our test going in the crowd,
Steve Jackson, the whole thing, the whole thing was amazing.
Speaker 10 (32:27):
Okay, okay, so here's the game.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Will Okay, we're playing the game. Here we go. This
is Scott who's not Australian but likes to say Australian phrases.
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Yeah, yeah, I do.
Speaker 10 (32:38):
So you Coop and Lorena get to pick if you
remember when the players were the best part of the
whole thing was when the players are going down getting
out of the whole place. How many beers got pelted
(32:59):
on the remember the fan of pelting people with beer?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yes, yes, it was raining down trash, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:06):
I want I want you Coop and Lorena to pick
how many beers got pelted? And Coop and Lorena can
look up to the video and who's ever closest?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Oh wait, wait, wait wait wait wait I thought you.
I thought you had already done the legwork on this.
Speaker 10 (33:25):
No, no, no, no, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Oh my wait a minute. That's a terrible game, Scott. No, no,
stop the music, stop the music. Like all right, Scott
little radio one on one buddy, all right. I like you.
I think you're gonna be a good call. Okay, listen.
If you're gonna call up and say I got a game,
you don't tell us how to play the game. You say,
I've already gotten the answer, and here's the question, and
(33:49):
who's the closest? It's not, hey, Coop, go count how
many beers were thrown at Ben Wallace that were not
Ben Wallace because he was playing for the Pistons. But yeah,
go ahead.
Speaker 10 (34:00):
In fearess. Can't Coop or Lorena look up the video
and actually.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Count a basing segment, not after segment.
Speaker 10 (34:11):
No, but you guys can figure it out.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
And then that's way too much work. What are you
talking about, Aley, What do you expect them to?
Speaker 9 (34:17):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
My god? So thank you? All right, cool, I sent
you some audio. I hopefully you have that ready to go.
So NFL head coach with a drop the mic moment. Now,
this is the guy who, listen, last week got fined
one hundred grand because he got into the face of
(34:39):
his idiot running back that fumbled the ball before crossing
the goal line. We're talking about Jonathan Gannon, the head
coach of the Cardinals. The Cardinals have had a bunch
of players out with injury and it's a ragtag squad.
They suck yet again, and so Gannon was asked, the
coach of the Cardinals was asked about how you deal
with all of these injuries and how you deal with
(35:02):
bringing players And you'll hear I think you'll hear the
question on this and the answer. But listen, this is
one of the great drop the mike moments from Jonathan Gannon.
Let's go to the audio tape. Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Well, how early in your career did you have to
start trying to figure out how to take the emotion
out of coaching As far as when you have all
these injuries and you have all these different pieces, when's
the first time that you.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Can recall it?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Two thousand and seven when our quarterback went to jail.
Oh so good. Oh you might not know this because
it's been almost twenty years. Loraina, do you know who
he's referencing there? No, I have no idea. So there
was this guy named Michael Vick who played for the
(35:48):
Atlanta Falcons and was running a dog fighting ring and
got arrested while playing. Yes, and Gannon was a young
coach on the Atlanta Falcons staff when Vick, who was
an MVP level player, most popular player in the NFL
at the time, not Tom Brady, not Peyton Manning, had
a cult following Michael Vick and he got dinged for
(36:11):
dog fighting. And Gannon was on this. But just the
dead pan delivery on that is just great, just absolutely great. Anyway,
he's the Ben Malor show. I thought that was pretty cool.
We've got Mallard of the third degree. Here's the Insta trivia.
You want to answer it on X at Ben Maller.
That's at Ben Maller. Here's the Insta trivia. Falcons running
back by John Robinson is the second player to reach
(36:33):
four hundred and fifty rushing yards three hundred receiving yards
through the first five games of a season in NFL history.
He joins Blank again. Falcon running back by John Robinson,
the second player to get four hundred and fifty rushing
yards three hundred receiving yards through the first five games
of a season in NFL history. He joins Blank. That's
the Insta Trivia the answer next.
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Insta Trivia and then we will get to Mallard to
the third Degree where we predict the future on Malard
to the third Degree. But here's the instant trivia. Falcon
running Back by John Robinson becomes the second player ever
to reach four hundred and fifty yards rushing three hundred
(38:12):
receiving yards through the first five games of a season
in NFL. His story and who does he join? Let's
find out here Jack the Lane guests by Bobby in Florida,
Sue Byrd, who's forty five today? From the Late Night
Drug Tester, The Hamburglar guests by Andy and Lina Lakes Minnesota,
Rob in Vegas, as Rowdy Roddy, Piper Blair Thomas from
(38:35):
I forty Ian. That's his answer, Malard prop guy says,
it's King Eddie who is celebrating a birthday today? Is
that is today's birthday? Today? Rob?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I don't know? A goat man going with lou Holtz
Cadillac Williams from Sawman in Mississippi. R Larry Kinnerbrew from
Eke and Roseville, Minnesota. Corey Dillon guests by just Josh,
what say you Lorraine up? Oh my gosh, I got
to go with Wolfman Wolfman Jack No not also Doug
in Korea to South Korea one with Thomas the tank
(39:08):
Engine the correct answer Thurman Thomas close Thrman Thomas nineteen
ninety one, Buffalo Bill, It's smaller? How about that? To
the third degree? This is one big Ben gets grilled Cooperloo.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
There are some analysts suggesting that Saints quarterback Spencer Rattler
has played well enough to deserve a look beyond twenty
twenty five. They point out that Rattler actually has similar,
if not better stats than Michael Pennocks junior this season. Ben,
does Rattler deserve to be considered long term?
Speaker 1 (39:39):
No, because Michael Pennix junior does not look like the
long term quarterback in Atlanta. So No, the Saints suck,
and they're gonna get a top five pick in the draft,
and they're going to draft the quarterback who will also
likely suck. But no, I don't buy what they're selling there.
And a lot of those numbers are garbage time numbers.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
Next, Kyle Schwarber is coming off the best season of
his career and the timing couldn't be better. As he
heads into free agency, it's being reported that he'll be
seeking a five year deal worth an average of thirty
million per year. Ben, do you think the Phillies will
pony have to keep him? Uh?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, I think he's perfect. You got the designated hitter
in that town. Schwarber's getting a little older, it becomes
a problem, but you'd still hit home lunch. He's not
gonna be able. He's never been a fast guy. I
think it'll work out for him in Philly.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Next, member of the Celtics media. Members of the Celtics
media played a pickup game against members of the Celtics
coaching staff got blown out fifty seven to four.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Ben, if you had to recruit members of.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
The FSR staff to play a game against Celtics coaches,
who would you choose? And you can't pick any former
pro athletes?
Speaker 10 (40:41):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, I mean my guy Rob Parker. We got a
lot of like knucklehead guy. Like, we got a lot
of like, I don't know, Patrick Moor cert Times yeah,
not a lot of athletic people that work here. That's
the problem. No, yeah, he's the problem. All right, here
you go.
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