October 1, 2024 • 36 mins
Ben Maller talks about the passing of Pete Rose and how he will be remembered, if he will get into the Hall of Fame now that he has died, the Braves winning a playoff spot and losing Chris Sale for the Wild Card Round, Maller to the Third Degree, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome. It's the original recipe our Numme Bird
two as we take the wraps off right now, and
it's all about our memories of a legend of baseball
who passed away. How are you going to remember Pete
Rose who died on Monday, the all time hits king. Also,
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now that Charlie Hustle has passed away, does he get
in to Cooperstown? We'll discuss that plus modern baseball. What's
your reaction to the Atlanta Braves winning a playoff spot
and losing Chris Sayle, their cy young favorite starting pitcher
for the Wildcrot Round on the same day. We'll talk
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about all that and more right now here. It is
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should be. It feels like over the years, I've gotten
ten thousand calls from a character named Dick and Dayton,
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and almost all of them have mentioned either Bernie Kozar
or Pete Rose. About ten thousands over the years, and
the big story here our leader. The other Monday night
football game was so bad? How bad was it? I
made the editorial decision, the rare and appropriate editorial decision,
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that the death of a baseball legend more interesting than
the MLB competition Monday night football, the early Monday night
football game. But our lead this hour is from baseball.
It is not what I thought I would be talking about.
The Mets and the Braves playing a doubleheader on Monday.
They split, and so that means they're both in and
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the Metropolitan play the Brewers. The Bravos will visit the Padres.
More on that later, But they were upstaged by Charlie Hustle.
I assume you've heard by now. It's been bouncing around.
There's nothing human beings love more than to share bad news,
but maybe not. Pete Rose is dead, the all time
hits leader, who of course banned for betting on baseball,
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baying for betting on baseball, has died at his home
in Vegas at the age of eighty three. I heard
a couple months ago that Pete was in poor health.
It turns out he has died. We do not have
many details, but not that it really matters. We'll hear more,
I'm sure in the coming days here and what happened
exactly that led to the death of Pete Rose. But
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he was in his early eighties. So let us discuss
the question, how are you going to remember Pete Rose?
So first of all, I've got a bunch of things
that are run through my head here, a bunch of
things arachnophobia, still water, and ferris wheel. And we'll combine
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all of these things together and try not to slip
and fall. So, first of all, for generations, multiple generations
that are a little bit older than I am, Pete
Rose was the personification of base He was he's the
epitome of what it meant to be a baseball player,
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and he is why so many fell in love with
the sport of baseball. And the number fourteen. When I
came along, he was long in the tooth and then
became the Reds manager. Those are my memories of Pete
Rose as a player, but I did see him play
when he was a player manager at the end of
his career. But number fourteen, the big red machine, no
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days off, the antithesis of the modern ballplayer, the modern
woos ballplayer that doesn't play hard. And it's like, we
had a what a great dichotomy between what happened on
Sunday with Blake Snell, who chose not to pitch on
Sunday for the Giants in the final game, and the
quote that he gave to a reporter, a beat reporter
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covering the Giants, and I'm paraphrasing here was something to
the effect, well, if the other team had been in contention,
I would have pitched, but since they're not, I chose
not to. That was the polar opposite of what Pete
Rose was. It's funny if Pete had played in today's game,
they would have said, you got to slow him down.
He's going to hurt the team. He's trying too hard,
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he works too hard. But he was a no nonsense player.
You got the shaggy hair a byproduct of the time
that he played in dive in head first, covered in dirt,
taking out Ray Fosse in an all star game of
all things. But overall, right, you go from top to
bottom of the life of Pete Rose and the legacy
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that he leaves behind as he leaves this mortal coil.
And it's rachnophobia, right, it's that tangled web that we
weave or go the spider web of chaos. Pete reinvented
himself a few years been, probably about ten years. He
popped up on Fox baseball coverage and was the most
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entertaining baseball commentator. Baseball players generally are boring they are
on television. Pete was engaging and entertaining and fun and
people really enjoyed him on television. Of course, that didn't
last for reasons off the field. But Pete had a
little bit everything, right. He had the gambling, He had
the booze, the sex, the rock and roll, a little
bit of all that, and of course the gambling is
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what did him in, right, That's the story why he
wasn't allowed in the Hall of Fame. And Pete Rose
bet on baseball and now you watch baseball and it's
sponsored by Everything is promoted or sponsored by a gambling company.
And listen, I love gambling. I do a TV show
about gambling. We have advertisers here that are gambling companies.
But it's just the irony of what was illegal then
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is legal now. It's like this happens all the time.
Things change, perceptions changed and whatnot. But even today you
would not be allowed to bet the way Pete Rose
was betting on baseball from the clubhouse as he was
managing the Reds, putting bets in and whatnot. But there's
a famous quote from Abraha Lincoln. I believe it was
Lincoln who said, we can complain because rose bushes have thorns,
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or we can celebrate the fact that thorns have roses.
That depends you look at it. But Pete had a
little bit of that, a little bit of this, and
was a heck of a player in a bigger than
life personality and all that. Now, Secondly, the big question
that everyone's yapping about here, everyone's talking about this, Well,
now he's dead, so Charlie Hustle, he's not coming back.
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Does he get into the Hall of Fame? Is it
now time for Pete Rose to be inducted into that
little town in New York, Cooperstown. And my initial thought
when I first heard the news and I was getting
my phone was blown up. Pete Rose is dead. You know,
people love sharing bad news. So my initial thought was
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he's going to get in. But then I started futzing
around with some people, talking to different people, and it's
not it's not a lot even in death. It's complicated. Right,
here's the issue. There's a lot of people that think, well,
it's a lifetime ban, his life is over, so therefore,
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since he's dead, Pete Rose should be allowed into the
Hall of Fame. But, as Lee Corso likes to say
on TV, not so fast, my friends. Turns out that
still water runs deep, and there is a technicality that
could still prevent Pete Rose from getting into the Hall
of Fame. You see, Pete Rose was not banned for life.
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The actual legal language was permanently ineligible, which is not
the same as lifetime man. Lifetime man means you're dead, okay,
ban's over, but permanently ineligible means even in death, you're
not allowed into the Hall of Fame. So it depends
whether or not Baseball is willing to bend a little
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bit like Rotman is a Weasley commissioner. I don't know
anybody that thinks he's doing a good job, just a
terrible commissioner. But this is a way for him to
get a little good good karma. And I said, oh,
Pete's dead, so we'll encourage him. Baseball will claim they're
not in charge of the Hall of Fame. It's an
independent operation, which is bull crap in my opinion. But
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this would have to be finessed by the commissioner. And
I have said this since I first learned about the story.
When I first got into talk radio in the Stone Age,
this was the go to topic if you were ever
having a slow day as a talk show host, it
was Pete Rose, Should he be in the Hall of Fame?
Give out the number right, Everything lights up like a
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Christmas tree, and boys would call up and debate it.
You know, you should never be in the Hall of it.
Put him in the Hall of Fame, Back and forth,
go to topic. If you're a lazy talk show host,
Pete Rose for the Hall of Fame. But having worked
around baseball and been the privy to baseball hardcore people
the hard o's in baseball. This has been passed down
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from generations. The commissioner, bart Giamani probably don't know who
that is. His kid was. He still is a famous actor.
But Bargiamani died eight days after Pete Rose was banned
for life. And while Bargiamani had a lot of health issues,
didn't have a great diet. I believe he smoked a lot.
The connection was that Pete Rose had a role in
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the death of bart Giamoni right because of the stress
of all this. Bartiomoni died a little over a week
after Pete Rose was banned for baseball, and Cooperstown was
what he wanted. Now, you could argue that Pete actually
benefited more from not getting into the Hall of Fame.
He became a notorious figure and had autograph signings in
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Vegas for years at different hotels, and for many years
go to New York and like across the street from
the Hall of Fame or down the street, they would
have autograph signings in New York. But as far as
putting him in, now, even if Baseball put him in,
to me, it's pointless because the whole point of it
is you're alive. You get to enjoy it. Like Pete's dead,
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He's not going to be able to enjoy it, Like
who cares. At this particular point, he's crossed over the
rubicon and major League Baseball and that they have the
ability if they want, they can encourage Pete Rose to
get into the Hall of Fame. But the whole thing
is insane to the membrane, it really is. And Pete
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used to live right across the well, not across the street,
but up the hill from where we broadcast from. When
I first started here at Fox Sports Radio, it was
an Italian restaurant right across so Pulvity here and Pete
was in there four or five days a week. We
always knew exactly when it was like happy hour, Pete
would be in there at the bar holding court. And
then eventually he moved to Vegas to sign autographs all
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the time, and that was it. We didn't see Pete
after that. But anyway, rest in peace to Pete Rose.
And it's not a guarantee, even in death that he
gets into the Hall of Fame. Because of the legal
Leese permanently ineligible for the Hall of Fame. All Right,
A final funt I did want to mention modern baseball,
the playoffs begin. Playoffs. Playoffs begin here on this Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday,
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and what is your reaction to the Atlanta Braves. The
Atlanta Braves winning a playoff spot and losing their cy
young favorite starting pitcher Chris Sayle for the wild card round.
As the announcement came down, he will likely not be
pitching in the wildcard round. So this is a ferris
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wheel over the lagoon at the Putt putt Golf, meaning
it is par for the course as the Braves. If
we're being told the truth here, the Atlanta Braves, this
is what this season has been. The fact that they
made the playoffs is an embarrassment to the Diamondbacks and
all these other teams that were fighting for that last
wildcard spot. That the Braves, with five six key players,
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big money players knocked out, still made the playoffs. That's
an indictment of these other teams that did not make
the playoffs here. But it's a Murphy's loss situation. Anything
and anything that can go wrong will go wrong. And
Brian Snicker, the manager, claimed that sale will not be
able to pitch in the wildcard round, which begins in
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hours and that's that. However, there is a conspiracy that
Chris Sale could have pitched, but they didn't want to
pitch him. And I don't know if I believe that
because the Mets won game won, so why would you
not pitch him if he's able to pitch? But the
argument he wrapped up the triple Crown of pitching and
had Chris Sale gun out there and not pitched, well,
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he could have conceivably lost that triple Crown title on
the mound. The conspiracy theorists are having a field day
with that. It is the Ben Malor Show. I want
to talk to you about Pete Rose. They thoughts you
have on Pete Rose as he checks out here and
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eighty three Pete Rose and the all time Hits King,
and you talk about records that will not be broken.
And maybe I'm being a prisoner of the moment, but
the way baseball's played today, the devaluation of the base hit,
it's hard to imagine that anyone will sniff that rarefied air.
They have to start as teenagers, have to play pretty
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much every day, get a bunch of bass hits and
do that for twenty five years or so. To have
a shot at the all time hit record, and nobody
has the passion, Nobody has the heart to do that.
They make too much money to do that. Why would
you keep playing? You make a ton of money, you
can retire, like Mike Trout's already retired. He's playing for
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the Angels, but he's retired. Nobody knows it, he knows it. Anyway,
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Speaker 1 (15:59):
Eacin Joseville, Minnesota, writes, and he says, someday I will
tell you and Justin in Cincinnati a story of why
Pete Rose was an hour late for a banquet honoring
him in the Twin sitaies. Well, everyone's got a Pete
Rose story. Everyone's got And I started covering baseball a
few years after, about five or six years after the
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lifetime banishment of Pete Rose, and it was still a
wild story. Everyone had some kind of story of something
with Pete back in the day. Masshole Mickey says, Pete
Rose was actually in Nashville over the weekend for an
autograph session. Maybe one too many coffee roll donuts? Is
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that true? Was he in Nashville? I didn't see that.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You should in fact check this.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I think he might be making that up. Tom, maybe not.
I don't know. Tom from Fullerton, writes in Sokal, says
seeing Pete Rose break the all time hit record is
one of my fondest watching TV moments. Rose not being
in the Baseball Hall of Fame is right up there
with the one one thousand and two one thousand holes
being allowed to cheat and win a championship. Okay, right there,
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Uh cheated astros. Yeah, all right, anyway, let's go to
the phones. We'll say hello to eny Meani miney Mo.
Let's say hello to Jerome in Charlested Hello, Jerome.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Hey, are you gonna be all right if the Dodgers
don't win at all? Huh? Are you gonna be alright? No?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
They banned me this year. I don't care who they
win or not. They they banned me. They wanted They
want a tawny media guys out. They don't want me
out there, and they don't care about the LA media.
They care about a tony media.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Don't they know what a loyal Dodger fan you are?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
They know they're clearly, don't they're clearly don't. Yeah, answer
your question. So I don't care where they are. I
like them to win, But am I gonna. I will
be as you know, Jerome, I will be here. Whoever wins,
I do the show. Whether the Dodgers win or lose,
I still have to do the stupid show. So it
doesn't you know. It's more fun when they win, because
then I can pour salt over you idiots that hate
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the Dodgers. But if they lose, I still got to
do the show. So who cares.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Yeah, but you got be real salty if the Dodgers
don't win at all.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm never salty when I've done so many Dodger playoff
loss monologues over the years. I know Dave Roberts, I
liked him in that spot, and I'll say fired Dave Roberts,
and they'll say, well, bring them back Dave Roberts. He'll
come back again, and nothing will change what you complain about.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
They're one of the most successful fatids in the history
of the well they are.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
They're financially they make tons of money over they have
a license. They gouge the Dodger fans. I meant a
lot of money over there.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Yes, you could be a Pirates fan, sorry about that anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Edie's not a real Pirates fan. He doesn't he only
pays attention. May have one. The Pirates have one good
team every ten years. That's fine, I'm saying, but you're not.
You're not living the Pirate.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
If you don't watch the game was it would be
a miserable sob every day during the basement.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Did you see what? Did you see? The Pirates did
it again? Did you see they did it against.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Somebody before they could four before you got a bonus.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Well, no, they didn't cut. But here's what they did.
Did you see this? By the way, Jerome, you'll appreciate
the cheapness of this. So the Pirates on the final
day of the season, there's an infield. There's Isaiah Kiner Felief.
Yeah I heard, yeah, yeah, yeah, so he he he said,
let me tell a story. So they sat him down
for Game one sixty two. He was four plate appearances
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away from a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bonus.
And this is this is the organization to support. There
are such tight wands over there. They're tighty with money
than Jerome and Charleston. That's how tight they are. Pirates.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
No, even don't even go there. Okay, poor they are rich.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Ah know, you just gotta you get upset about everything, though, Jerome,
I love you, you complain about everything.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Wait, let me ask you then, who did a better
job of killing drives this weekend? Matthew Stafford, I think
I'll throw it to the guy in the other jersey
or cut who's new? Carson Beck?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
You don't even know the name you, Carson Beck.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
I know his man, he has a number fifteeds. But Jordan,
I know his man. I know what he did. What
is that?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Man?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
How many times you gotta throw the ball to the
other team to realize this is something I Shid's be doing.
By the way, I'm gonna ask you again because you
answer me, who's gonna be the next Jaguars coach?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Who's gonna be? Then?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Be back John Rudin, Bill Belichick? One of those things.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
No, Deshaun Foster, Shawn Well, he's.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Doing a great job at UCLA. Let me tell you something,
the Bruins. That is a well coached operation over there
at U c l A. My god, he's.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Gonna be going at the end of the year. Man,
he's gonna be. No.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
No, they don't care about football UCLA. If they did,
they wouldn't have hired him in the first place, so
I agreed to work. Hey, all you need to know
about UCLA football is their head coach chose to be
downgraded to offensive coordinator rather than be the head coach
at UCLA. That tells you all you need to know
about the value of football for the UCLA athletic program.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
By the way, Mischief's not beating Ohio State this year.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Well that's a bull take, Jerome, that's a bull take.
That's up, mate. How did you come up with that?
Your own we do.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I don't care how much cheating Michigan does and gets
away with. They're not beating Ohio State this year. Sorry,
it's going to happen. By the way, ain't beating Ohio
State either.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Tell him that, Jerome, you want to go to gamble
and make some money on this. You have all the
answers to all us gamble. Well why not you have
all the answers, you suld gamble make some money at this. Well,
you just told me you're you're able to figure out
who's gonna win these games. I mean I try every week.
I throw crap against the wall, spent hours after the
show every day trying to handicap the NFL and then
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I going about five hundred every week.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
So I have a gamble.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I know you should do.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
You know what you should do, Jerome, Jerome, you should do.
I know me and Pat McAfee mare in the same
tax bracket, but you know what you want to do. Though,
you should seriously just stand up comedy like I'm so poor,
and then just to do a joke after that.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
I'm not that good looking. I couldn't see you.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Have you seen comedian, because there's a lot of ugly comedians.
In fact, the the oglier you are, the better you'll
be as a comedian. Nobody wants a good looking comedian.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Like the elephant Man.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
No, you'd be really good. Who wants to see a
good looking comedian? I want an I want my comedian
to be but ugly. I want ass ugly comedians. What
I want.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Women want to see a good looking comedian. They don't
want to see me.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Is that true? Is that true, Lorena? You're speaking for women.
You do not want to see an ugly comedian. You
want to see a good looking comedian.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
I like a little homelier on the comedian side. You're
not supposed to be handsome handsome men aren't funny.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, people are handsome. Have life easy, now, Jerome, Jo, Seriously,
if you're if you're better looking, life is easier.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
It's just five handsome comedians.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Do you think you're talking about? Damn? Do you think
I don't notice that lately?
Speaker 8 (23:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I don't watch TV.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
No, okay, alright, you only put okay, you sure about
that till tomorrow when you have something else to complain
about it.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
I haven't. I haven't made any money, but I feel
better now.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
All right, go to bed, Jerome. All right, covetching with
Jerome and Charleston complaining about everything. There was an.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Amateur comedian walking around the tailgate area at the Chargers game.
Kee part of that amateur commedy, Well, he had he
had a signer on his neck. It said one dollar
for a joke, two dollars if you laugh. Oh, And
I thought, well, he's he's actually incentivizing people do not
laugh at his jokes because if they laugh, then they
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have to pay him an extra dollar. But thought that
was interesting. I didn't see anybody taking him up on
his office.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Now I saw something that was the funniest thing I've
seen sometime it flashed back. Remember the Wayan Brothers in
Living Color, that old show on Fox back in the nineties,
The clown. Yeah, and I'm driving. This is not this
past week, but because there was a snap who Otherwise
I didn't go to the game, but two weeks ago
I was at the Rams game. I'm leaving so far.
So my strategy leaving so far is I go as
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far away from the traffic, whatever the traffic is, I
go the other direction, which is normally into the hood. Right,
So I go in. I just start driving. I figure
I'll figure it out. So I I go away from
the traffic, and I'm driving up Crenshaw Boulevard and I'm
stopped at a red light, and across the street is
a black guy who looked like Homie the Clown, juggling
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between red lights for tips. And it was unbelieva it was,
I told the stort on my podcast. It was I
was laughing my He had timed his juggling routine to
the exact amount of time between he He must have
been doing this for a long time because he knew
exactly how many seconds he had before the signal turned.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Was he able to stomp in time to collect money.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, he stopped about twenty seconds and then he took
his clown hat off. He had the red nose, he
had the funny shoes, he had a clown and you could.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Just juggle until the light turns green because then they
have already leaves.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
No, no, no, but you give him money? No, of
course not. But it was it was really entertaining. Uh
And if I see him again, I will, I'll tell
you what. I'll give him a couple of bucks.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
It sounds like I would see him on Fremont Street
in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
No, he was on Crenshawn Adams in La here. But yeah,
he should go to Vegas. He'd probably make a make
a decent amount of money. I think it was. It
was hilarious. I thought, my god, I mean, she's Oh,
those guys will just sit there and do have a
sad look. The worst the ones I hate is when
they were like the families will drag their kids out
in front of Costco or Walmart and.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
The candy bars.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
No, they're like, you know, we're we need They're just
sitting with them. Man. I hate that. You don't use
your kids, don't bring your kids into your issues.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Okay, it's the candy bars that make me mad because
those are only a dollar on a regular basis and
they try to sell them for five bucks.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Ye that sucks.
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Speaker 3 (26:18):
And in Basketball Hall of Famer to Ken and Matumba
passing away at the age of fifty eight due to
a brain tumor. Four time Defensive Player of the Year
and eight times played for six teams. Who do you associate?
I associated him with the Nuggets. Who do you associate
to Kim Tombo? If he played with a bunch of teams,
I would say Nuggets won Hawks.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Maybe they played in Atlanta for a while and the
Wester played with the sixties on the sixers team with
the iverson right.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah, the one that made it to the finals.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, play with the Nets, the Knicks and the Rockets.
Play with the Rockets for a long time too, But
I think of them in the Nuggets. That's when he
came onto the scene, had that big win against the
SuperSonics in Seattle, larea.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
You should find some Tokenmi Matumba drops in there. If you,
I know, you probably aren't familiar with for me, Uh, yes,
I can't d I K E, m b E, m
U t O m b O.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You know he has six names. Yes, he did say
all of them. It's it was like a lot of
was in there, something like yes, Jean Jacques, Tombo. Yeah, yes,
from the book, just decided to go with the first two.
I think that was a good move on his part. Yeah,
for sure. And nine had nine siblings. About that a
(27:30):
lot of move.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
What is that he sounded like cookie monster?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Is he saying no, no, no, we had a better
We just have a really good mombo back in the day.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
But doesn't he say something about the birthday? Is well,
do we have a birthday? Yes, yes, happy birthday, you
old man. Happy birthday, you old man.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
We'll have to find that.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
No, no, today he had that funny commercial too, right
where he's in the grocery store like swatting.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, so that's what she's playing right now.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
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Over the years.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Tim is in Florida. Hello, Tim, Welcome?
Speaker 9 (28:46):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Tim? If I was any better, I'd be a dolphin,
but not on Miami Dolphin because he got smoked, But
you didn't call about that.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
I born on the Pete Rys. Think what I grew up.
I grew up with Pepe Rosbie and my idol, and
I worked for Bob Evans as a busboy and I
asked him for his autograph and he said, don't bother
me doing that, just go away.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Was he having a meal at bob Evans when you
asked him?
Speaker 5 (29:23):
He was?
Speaker 9 (29:24):
And it was probably my fault. But ten years later,
when he went through his thing with the with the uh,
the betting skin, all stuff like that, I wait on
him again now as a waiter, and he I didn't
ask him for his autograph. I dropped the chick off
(29:45):
and he's like, what are you doing? And he said,
I don't pay for my meals. He said, here's like
on the Eve eatings here, and so he roomined it
for me. Now now I believe that Pete Rose needs
to be in the Hall of Fame. I've watched him
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all my life. I was born in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, so you when you were in your early first
fandom as a kid, you remember Pete Rose dominated, right,
that's your Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:18):
Yeah, so he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
But man, what a jerk.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well don't they say, you know you don't you don't
want to meet your heroes because they'll probably disappoint you
or something like that, isn't it something some line like that, But.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
Pretty much what he is. I've met other people from
the Reds and play Crobbitson and like all great classes people.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Pet Rose, well, there are ways to get a free meal.
I was friends with Tommy Lasorda sorta never paid for
a meal, but he never treated people, as far as
I know, like that. He just ways you can get
a free meal without acting like that.
Speaker 9 (30:55):
I don't know he expected it.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Did he have a deal with Bob Evans? Maybe a
deal or you got free meals?
Speaker 9 (31:01):
I don't know, but I have no idea that I
worked as for fifteen years and like.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
What what.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Did Pete order?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
There?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Was his go to order?
Speaker 9 (31:13):
It was it was a breakfast meal. But at that
breakfast combo.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Okay, like the breakfast combo?
Speaker 9 (31:17):
Like but do you expect it? Like like like I'm
just here and that's.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Well I don't, but I mean Pete, I don't know.
I can't. He's obviously not here to defend himself. But yeah,
I mean that's what you say. Seems like you it
touched the nerve enough to call up here and tell
the story. Tim, So obviously you bothered you all these
years you called up to tell the story.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
Well, it's the thing that he also after he was
doing his gambling thing. I just kept it was his ego.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I think that well he definitely, Yeah, I mean he
was the king. Nobody will debate the ego of Pete Rose.
I got to leave it there, Tim, But thank you
the great Tim in Florida on the night Pete Rose died,
sharing a story of Pete being a tight wad, Bob
Evans Okay, thank you, thank you for that. Reminds me
of the night Muhammad Ali died. Remember we did a
tribute to Muhammad Ali and a couple of people called
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up to take shots at muhammadad that that particular night.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
But got him cheating on his wife all the time.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Now it was a military thing. Oh, the military and
weapon guys that were in Vietnam. We're upset with Muhammad Ali.
But anyway, all right, it is the Ben Mahlord Show.
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(32:38):
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(35:24):
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the last two weeks, I think he's the twenty thrank quarterback.
So that's still not good. I mean it's it's better
than he was, but not that good.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Next, Luis a Ryan just became the first player in
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different teams.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Ben, do you think O'Ryan is being undervalued?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
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if the Padres trade his ass to another team this offseason.
It's the thing to do. The guys won batting titles
and with multiple teams now, and he's on his third
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team already, and he's not even twenty eight years old.
Speaker 8 (36:08):
Next when that's been up potentially making a change at quarterback.
Patriots head coach Jerod Mayo said, at this point, Jacoby
is our starting quarterback. But then he said, we have
a long flight to go back and watch the film,
and Roy's evaluating every single position. Then you think Drake
May starts next week.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Well, if if you're trying to win, you would you
would not start Jacoby Brissett, anybody but Jacoby Brissett. So
if I was running the Patriots, I would start Drake May.
Do I think they're gonna start Drake May. No, I
think they're gonna continue because they're pig headed. And I'll
talk more about this later, but they're gonna go with
Jacoby Brissette. How did we die? He rose and Bob Evans.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
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it's all about our memories of a legend of baseball
who passed away. How are you going to remember Pete
Rose who died on Monday, the all time hits king. Also,
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in to Cooperstown? We'll discuss that plus modern baseball. What's
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and losing Chris Sayle, their cy young favorite starting pitcher
for the Wildcrot Round on the same day. We'll talk
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ten thousand calls from a character named Dick and Dayton,
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and almost all of them have mentioned either Bernie Kozar
or Pete Rose. About ten thousands over the years, and
the big story here our leader. The other Monday night
football game was so bad? How bad was it? I
made the editorial decision, the rare and appropriate editorial decision,
(02:14):
that the death of a baseball legend more interesting than
the MLB competition Monday night football, the early Monday night
football game. But our lead this hour is from baseball.
It is not what I thought I would be talking about.
The Mets and the Braves playing a doubleheader on Monday.
They split, and so that means they're both in and
(02:35):
the Metropolitan play the Brewers. The Bravos will visit the Padres.
More on that later, But they were upstaged by Charlie Hustle.
I assume you've heard by now. It's been bouncing around.
There's nothing human beings love more than to share bad news,
but maybe not. Pete Rose is dead, the all time
hits leader, who of course banned for betting on baseball,
(03:01):
baying for betting on baseball, has died at his home
in Vegas at the age of eighty three. I heard
a couple months ago that Pete was in poor health.
It turns out he has died. We do not have
many details, but not that it really matters. We'll hear more,
I'm sure in the coming days here and what happened
exactly that led to the death of Pete Rose. But
(03:21):
he was in his early eighties. So let us discuss
the question, how are you going to remember Pete Rose?
So first of all, I've got a bunch of things
that are run through my head here, a bunch of
things arachnophobia, still water, and ferris wheel. And we'll combine
(03:43):
all of these things together and try not to slip
and fall. So, first of all, for generations, multiple generations
that are a little bit older than I am, Pete
Rose was the personification of base He was he's the
epitome of what it meant to be a baseball player,
(04:05):
and he is why so many fell in love with
the sport of baseball. And the number fourteen. When I
came along, he was long in the tooth and then
became the Reds manager. Those are my memories of Pete
Rose as a player, but I did see him play
when he was a player manager at the end of
his career. But number fourteen, the big red machine, no
(04:27):
days off, the antithesis of the modern ballplayer, the modern
woos ballplayer that doesn't play hard. And it's like, we
had a what a great dichotomy between what happened on
Sunday with Blake Snell, who chose not to pitch on
Sunday for the Giants in the final game, and the
quote that he gave to a reporter, a beat reporter
(04:49):
covering the Giants, and I'm paraphrasing here was something to
the effect, well, if the other team had been in contention,
I would have pitched, but since they're not, I chose
not to. That was the polar opposite of what Pete
Rose was. It's funny if Pete had played in today's game,
they would have said, you got to slow him down.
He's going to hurt the team. He's trying too hard,
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he works too hard. But he was a no nonsense player.
You got the shaggy hair a byproduct of the time
that he played in dive in head first, covered in dirt,
taking out Ray Fosse in an all star game of
all things. But overall, right, you go from top to
bottom of the life of Pete Rose and the legacy
(05:32):
that he leaves behind as he leaves this mortal coil.
And it's rachnophobia, right, it's that tangled web that we
weave or go the spider web of chaos. Pete reinvented
himself a few years been, probably about ten years. He
popped up on Fox baseball coverage and was the most
(05:55):
entertaining baseball commentator. Baseball players generally are boring they are
on television. Pete was engaging and entertaining and fun and
people really enjoyed him on television. Of course, that didn't
last for reasons off the field. But Pete had a
little bit everything, right. He had the gambling, He had
the booze, the sex, the rock and roll, a little
bit of all that, and of course the gambling is
(06:17):
what did him in, right, That's the story why he
wasn't allowed in the Hall of Fame. And Pete Rose
bet on baseball and now you watch baseball and it's
sponsored by Everything is promoted or sponsored by a gambling company.
And listen, I love gambling. I do a TV show
about gambling. We have advertisers here that are gambling companies.
But it's just the irony of what was illegal then
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is legal now. It's like this happens all the time.
Things change, perceptions changed and whatnot. But even today you
would not be allowed to bet the way Pete Rose
was betting on baseball from the clubhouse as he was
managing the Reds, putting bets in and whatnot. But there's
a famous quote from Abraha Lincoln. I believe it was
Lincoln who said, we can complain because rose bushes have thorns,
(07:07):
or we can celebrate the fact that thorns have roses.
That depends you look at it. But Pete had a
little bit of that, a little bit of this, and
was a heck of a player in a bigger than
life personality and all that. Now, Secondly, the big question
that everyone's yapping about here, everyone's talking about this, Well,
now he's dead, so Charlie Hustle, he's not coming back.
(07:31):
Does he get into the Hall of Fame? Is it
now time for Pete Rose to be inducted into that
little town in New York, Cooperstown. And my initial thought
when I first heard the news and I was getting
my phone was blown up. Pete Rose is dead. You know,
people love sharing bad news. So my initial thought was
(07:52):
he's going to get in. But then I started futzing
around with some people, talking to different people, and it's
not it's not a lot even in death. It's complicated. Right,
here's the issue. There's a lot of people that think, well,
it's a lifetime ban, his life is over, so therefore,
(08:12):
since he's dead, Pete Rose should be allowed into the
Hall of Fame. But, as Lee Corso likes to say
on TV, not so fast, my friends. Turns out that
still water runs deep, and there is a technicality that
could still prevent Pete Rose from getting into the Hall
of Fame. You see, Pete Rose was not banned for life.
(08:34):
The actual legal language was permanently ineligible, which is not
the same as lifetime man. Lifetime man means you're dead, okay,
ban's over, but permanently ineligible means even in death, you're
not allowed into the Hall of Fame. So it depends
whether or not Baseball is willing to bend a little
(08:58):
bit like Rotman is a Weasley commissioner. I don't know
anybody that thinks he's doing a good job, just a
terrible commissioner. But this is a way for him to
get a little good good karma. And I said, oh,
Pete's dead, so we'll encourage him. Baseball will claim they're
not in charge of the Hall of Fame. It's an
independent operation, which is bull crap in my opinion. But
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this would have to be finessed by the commissioner. And
I have said this since I first learned about the story.
When I first got into talk radio in the Stone Age,
this was the go to topic if you were ever
having a slow day as a talk show host, it
was Pete Rose, Should he be in the Hall of Fame?
Give out the number right, Everything lights up like a
(09:45):
Christmas tree, and boys would call up and debate it.
You know, you should never be in the Hall of it.
Put him in the Hall of Fame, Back and forth,
go to topic. If you're a lazy talk show host,
Pete Rose for the Hall of Fame. But having worked
around baseball and been the privy to baseball hardcore people
the hard o's in baseball. This has been passed down
(10:06):
from generations. The commissioner, bart Giamani probably don't know who
that is. His kid was. He still is a famous actor.
But Bargiamani died eight days after Pete Rose was banned
for life. And while Bargiamani had a lot of health issues,
didn't have a great diet. I believe he smoked a lot.
The connection was that Pete Rose had a role in
(10:30):
the death of bart Giamoni right because of the stress
of all this. Bartiomoni died a little over a week
after Pete Rose was banned for baseball, and Cooperstown was
what he wanted. Now, you could argue that Pete actually
benefited more from not getting into the Hall of Fame.
He became a notorious figure and had autograph signings in
(10:51):
Vegas for years at different hotels, and for many years
go to New York and like across the street from
the Hall of Fame or down the street, they would
have autograph signings in New York. But as far as
putting him in, now, even if Baseball put him in,
to me, it's pointless because the whole point of it
is you're alive. You get to enjoy it. Like Pete's dead,
(11:13):
He's not going to be able to enjoy it, Like
who cares. At this particular point, he's crossed over the
rubicon and major League Baseball and that they have the
ability if they want, they can encourage Pete Rose to
get into the Hall of Fame. But the whole thing
is insane to the membrane, it really is. And Pete
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used to live right across the well, not across the street,
but up the hill from where we broadcast from. When
I first started here at Fox Sports Radio, it was
an Italian restaurant right across so Pulvity here and Pete
was in there four or five days a week. We
always knew exactly when it was like happy hour, Pete
would be in there at the bar holding court. And
then eventually he moved to Vegas to sign autographs all
(11:55):
the time, and that was it. We didn't see Pete
after that. But anyway, rest in peace to Pete Rose.
And it's not a guarantee, even in death that he
gets into the Hall of Fame. Because of the legal
Leese permanently ineligible for the Hall of Fame. All Right,
A final funt I did want to mention modern baseball,
the playoffs begin. Playoffs. Playoffs begin here on this Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday,
(12:19):
and what is your reaction to the Atlanta Braves. The
Atlanta Braves winning a playoff spot and losing their cy
young favorite starting pitcher Chris Sayle for the wild card round.
As the announcement came down, he will likely not be
pitching in the wildcard round. So this is a ferris
(12:41):
wheel over the lagoon at the Putt putt Golf, meaning
it is par for the course as the Braves. If
we're being told the truth here, the Atlanta Braves, this
is what this season has been. The fact that they
made the playoffs is an embarrassment to the Diamondbacks and
all these other teams that were fighting for that last
wildcard spot. That the Braves, with five six key players,
(13:06):
big money players knocked out, still made the playoffs. That's
an indictment of these other teams that did not make
the playoffs here. But it's a Murphy's loss situation. Anything
and anything that can go wrong will go wrong. And
Brian Snicker, the manager, claimed that sale will not be
able to pitch in the wildcard round, which begins in
(13:28):
hours and that's that. However, there is a conspiracy that
Chris Sale could have pitched, but they didn't want to
pitch him. And I don't know if I believe that
because the Mets won game won, so why would you
not pitch him if he's able to pitch? But the
argument he wrapped up the triple Crown of pitching and
had Chris Sale gun out there and not pitched, well,
(13:49):
he could have conceivably lost that triple Crown title on
the mound. The conspiracy theorists are having a field day
with that. It is the Ben Malor Show. I want
to talk to you about Pete Rose. They thoughts you
have on Pete Rose as he checks out here and
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eighty three Pete Rose and the all time Hits King,
and you talk about records that will not be broken.
And maybe I'm being a prisoner of the moment, but
the way baseball's played today, the devaluation of the base hit,
it's hard to imagine that anyone will sniff that rarefied air.
They have to start as teenagers, have to play pretty
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much every day, get a bunch of bass hits and
do that for twenty five years or so. To have
a shot at the all time hit record, and nobody
has the passion, Nobody has the heart to do that.
They make too much money to do that. Why would
you keep playing? You make a ton of money, you
can retire, like Mike Trout's already retired. He's playing for
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the Angels, but he's retired. Nobody knows it, he knows it. Anyway,
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Eacin Joseville, Minnesota, writes, and he says, someday I will
tell you and Justin in Cincinnati a story of why
Pete Rose was an hour late for a banquet honoring
him in the Twin sitaies. Well, everyone's got a Pete
Rose story. Everyone's got And I started covering baseball a
few years after, about five or six years after the
(16:19):
lifetime banishment of Pete Rose, and it was still a
wild story. Everyone had some kind of story of something
with Pete back in the day. Masshole Mickey says, Pete
Rose was actually in Nashville over the weekend for an
autograph session. Maybe one too many coffee roll donuts? Is
(16:42):
that true? Was he in Nashville? I didn't see that.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You should in fact check this.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I think he might be making that up. Tom, maybe not.
I don't know. Tom from Fullerton, writes in Sokal, says
seeing Pete Rose break the all time hit record is
one of my fondest watching TV moments. Rose not being
in the Baseball Hall of Fame is right up there
with the one one thousand and two one thousand holes
being allowed to cheat and win a championship. Okay, right there,
(17:11):
Uh cheated astros. Yeah, all right, anyway, let's go to
the phones. We'll say hello to eny Meani miney Mo.
Let's say hello to Jerome in Charlested Hello, Jerome.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Hey, are you gonna be all right if the Dodgers
don't win at all? Huh? Are you gonna be alright? No?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
They banned me this year. I don't care who they
win or not. They they banned me. They wanted They
want a tawny media guys out. They don't want me
out there, and they don't care about the LA media.
They care about a tony media.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Don't they know what a loyal Dodger fan you are?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
They know they're clearly, don't they're clearly don't. Yeah, answer
your question. So I don't care where they are. I
like them to win, But am I gonna. I will
be as you know, Jerome, I will be here. Whoever wins,
I do the show. Whether the Dodgers win or lose,
I still have to do the stupid show. So it
doesn't you know. It's more fun when they win, because
then I can pour salt over you idiots that hate
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the Dodgers. But if they lose, I still got to
do the show. So who cares.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Yeah, but you got be real salty if the Dodgers
don't win at all.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I'm never salty when I've done so many Dodger playoff
loss monologues over the years. I know Dave Roberts, I
liked him in that spot, and I'll say fired Dave Roberts,
and they'll say, well, bring them back Dave Roberts. He'll
come back again, and nothing will change what you complain about.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
They're one of the most successful fatids in the history
of the well they are.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
They're financially they make tons of money over they have
a license. They gouge the Dodger fans. I meant a
lot of money over there.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Yes, you could be a Pirates fan, sorry about that anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Edie's not a real Pirates fan. He doesn't he only
pays attention. May have one. The Pirates have one good
team every ten years. That's fine, I'm saying, but you're not.
You're not living the Pirate.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
If you don't watch the game was it would be
a miserable sob every day during the basement.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Did you see what? Did you see? The Pirates did
it again? Did you see they did it against.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Somebody before they could four before you got a bonus.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Well, no, they didn't cut. But here's what they did.
Did you see this? By the way, Jerome, you'll appreciate
the cheapness of this. So the Pirates on the final
day of the season, there's an infield. There's Isaiah Kiner Felief.
Yeah I heard, yeah, yeah, yeah, so he he he said,
let me tell a story. So they sat him down
for Game one sixty two. He was four plate appearances
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away from a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars bonus.
And this is this is the organization to support. There
are such tight wands over there. They're tighty with money
than Jerome and Charleston. That's how tight they are. Pirates.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
No, even don't even go there. Okay, poor they are rich.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Ah know, you just gotta you get upset about everything, though, Jerome,
I love you, you complain about everything.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Wait, let me ask you then, who did a better
job of killing drives this weekend? Matthew Stafford, I think
I'll throw it to the guy in the other jersey
or cut who's new? Carson Beck?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
You don't even know the name you, Carson Beck.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
I know his man, he has a number fifteeds. But Jordan,
I know his man. I know what he did. What
is that?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Man?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
How many times you gotta throw the ball to the
other team to realize this is something I Shid's be doing.
By the way, I'm gonna ask you again because you
answer me, who's gonna be the next Jaguars coach?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Who's gonna be? Then?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Be back John Rudin, Bill Belichick? One of those things.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
No, Deshaun Foster, Shawn Well, he's.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Doing a great job at UCLA. Let me tell you something,
the Bruins. That is a well coached operation over there
at U c l A. My god, he's.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Gonna be going at the end of the year. Man,
he's gonna be. No.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
No, they don't care about football UCLA. If they did,
they wouldn't have hired him in the first place, so
I agreed to work. Hey, all you need to know
about UCLA football is their head coach chose to be
downgraded to offensive coordinator rather than be the head coach
at UCLA. That tells you all you need to know
about the value of football for the UCLA athletic program.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
By the way, Mischief's not beating Ohio State this year.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Well that's a bull take, Jerome, that's a bull take.
That's up, mate. How did you come up with that?
Your own we do.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I don't care how much cheating Michigan does and gets
away with. They're not beating Ohio State this year. Sorry,
it's going to happen. By the way, ain't beating Ohio
State either.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Tell him that, Jerome, you want to go to gamble
and make some money on this. You have all the
answers to all us gamble. Well why not you have
all the answers, you suld gamble make some money at this. Well,
you just told me you're you're able to figure out
who's gonna win these games. I mean I try every week.
I throw crap against the wall, spent hours after the
show every day trying to handicap the NFL and then
(21:59):
I going about five hundred every week.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
So I have a gamble.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I know you should do.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
You know what you should do, Jerome, Jerome, you should do.
I know me and Pat McAfee mare in the same
tax bracket, but you know what you want to do. Though,
you should seriously just stand up comedy like I'm so poor,
and then just to do a joke after that.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
I'm not that good looking. I couldn't see you.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Have you seen comedian, because there's a lot of ugly comedians.
In fact, the the oglier you are, the better you'll
be as a comedian. Nobody wants a good looking comedian.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Like the elephant Man.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
No, you'd be really good. Who wants to see a
good looking comedian? I want an I want my comedian
to be but ugly. I want ass ugly comedians. What
I want.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Women want to see a good looking comedian. They don't
want to see me.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Is that true? Is that true, Lorena? You're speaking for women.
You do not want to see an ugly comedian. You
want to see a good looking comedian.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
I like a little homelier on the comedian side. You're
not supposed to be handsome handsome men aren't funny.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, people are handsome. Have life easy, now, Jerome, Jo, Seriously,
if you're if you're better looking, life is easier.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
It's just five handsome comedians.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Do you think you're talking about? Damn? Do you think
I don't notice that lately?
Speaker 8 (23:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I don't watch TV.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
No, okay, alright, you only put okay, you sure about
that till tomorrow when you have something else to complain
about it.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
I haven't. I haven't made any money, but I feel
better now.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
All right, go to bed, Jerome. All right, covetching with
Jerome and Charleston complaining about everything. There was an.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Amateur comedian walking around the tailgate area at the Chargers game.
Kee part of that amateur commedy, Well, he had he
had a signer on his neck. It said one dollar
for a joke, two dollars if you laugh. Oh, And
I thought, well, he's he's actually incentivizing people do not
laugh at his jokes because if they laugh, then they
(24:02):
have to pay him an extra dollar. But thought that
was interesting. I didn't see anybody taking him up on
his office.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Now I saw something that was the funniest thing I've
seen sometime it flashed back. Remember the Wayan Brothers in
Living Color, that old show on Fox back in the nineties,
The clown. Yeah, and I'm driving. This is not this
past week, but because there was a snap who Otherwise
I didn't go to the game, but two weeks ago
I was at the Rams game. I'm leaving so far.
So my strategy leaving so far is I go as
(24:30):
far away from the traffic, whatever the traffic is, I
go the other direction, which is normally into the hood. Right,
So I go in. I just start driving. I figure
I'll figure it out. So I I go away from
the traffic, and I'm driving up Crenshaw Boulevard and I'm
stopped at a red light, and across the street is
a black guy who looked like Homie the Clown, juggling
(24:51):
between red lights for tips. And it was unbelieva it was,
I told the stort on my podcast. It was I
was laughing my He had timed his juggling routine to
the exact amount of time between he He must have
been doing this for a long time because he knew
exactly how many seconds he had before the signal turned.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Was he able to stomp in time to collect money.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, he stopped about twenty seconds and then he took
his clown hat off. He had the red nose, he
had the funny shoes, he had a clown and you could.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Just juggle until the light turns green because then they
have already leaves.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
No, no, no, but you give him money? No, of
course not. But it was it was really entertaining. Uh
And if I see him again, I will, I'll tell
you what. I'll give him a couple of bucks.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
It sounds like I would see him on Fremont Street
in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
No, he was on Crenshawn Adams in La here. But yeah,
he should go to Vegas. He'd probably make a make
a decent amount of money. I think it was. It
was hilarious. I thought, my god, I mean, she's Oh,
those guys will just sit there and do have a
sad look. The worst the ones I hate is when
they were like the families will drag their kids out
in front of Costco or Walmart and.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
The candy bars.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
No, they're like, you know, we're we need They're just
sitting with them. Man. I hate that. You don't use
your kids, don't bring your kids into your issues.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Okay, it's the candy bars that make me mad because
those are only a dollar on a regular basis and
they try to sell them for five bucks.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Ye that sucks.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
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Speaker 3 (26:18):
And in Basketball Hall of Famer to Ken and Matumba
passing away at the age of fifty eight due to
a brain tumor. Four time Defensive Player of the Year
and eight times played for six teams. Who do you associate?
I associated him with the Nuggets. Who do you associate
to Kim Tombo? If he played with a bunch of teams,
I would say Nuggets won Hawks.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Maybe they played in Atlanta for a while and the
Wester played with the sixties on the sixers team with
the iverson right.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah, the one that made it to the finals.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, play with the Nets, the Knicks and the Rockets.
Play with the Rockets for a long time too, But
I think of them in the Nuggets. That's when he
came onto the scene, had that big win against the
SuperSonics in Seattle, larea.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
You should find some Tokenmi Matumba drops in there. If you,
I know, you probably aren't familiar with for me, Uh, yes,
I can't d I K E, m b E, m
U t O m b O.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You know he has six names. Yes, he did say
all of them. It's it was like a lot of
was in there, something like yes, Jean Jacques, Tombo. Yeah, yes,
from the book, just decided to go with the first two.
I think that was a good move on his part. Yeah,
for sure. And nine had nine siblings. About that a
(27:30):
lot of move.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
What is that he sounded like cookie monster?
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Is he saying no, no, no, we had a better
We just have a really good mombo back in the day.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
But doesn't he say something about the birthday? Is well,
do we have a birthday? Yes, yes, happy birthday, you
old man. Happy birthday, you old man.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
We'll have to find that.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
No, no, today he had that funny commercial too, right
where he's in the grocery store like swatting.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, so that's what she's playing right now.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
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Speaker 4 (28:41):
Over the years.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Tim is in Florida. Hello, Tim, Welcome?
Speaker 9 (28:46):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Tim? If I was any better, I'd be a dolphin,
but not on Miami Dolphin because he got smoked, But
you didn't call about that.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
I born on the Pete Rys. Think what I grew up.
I grew up with Pepe Rosbie and my idol, and
I worked for Bob Evans as a busboy and I
asked him for his autograph and he said, don't bother
me doing that, just go away.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Was he having a meal at bob Evans when you
asked him?
Speaker 5 (29:23):
He was?
Speaker 9 (29:24):
And it was probably my fault. But ten years later,
when he went through his thing with the with the uh,
the betting skin, all stuff like that, I wait on
him again now as a waiter, and he I didn't
ask him for his autograph. I dropped the chick off
(29:45):
and he's like, what are you doing? And he said,
I don't pay for my meals. He said, here's like
on the Eve eatings here, and so he roomined it
for me. Now now I believe that Pete Rose needs
to be in the Hall of Fame. I've watched him
(30:06):
all my life. I was born in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, so you when you were in your early first
fandom as a kid, you remember Pete Rose dominated, right,
that's your Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:18):
Yeah, so he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
But man, what a jerk.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well don't they say, you know you don't you don't
want to meet your heroes because they'll probably disappoint you
or something like that, isn't it something some line like that, But.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
Pretty much what he is. I've met other people from
the Reds and play Crobbitson and like all great classes people.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Pet Rose, well, there are ways to get a free meal.
I was friends with Tommy Lasorda sorta never paid for
a meal, but he never treated people, as far as
I know, like that. He just ways you can get
a free meal without acting like that.
Speaker 9 (30:55):
I don't know he expected it.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Did he have a deal with Bob Evans? Maybe a
deal or you got free meals?
Speaker 9 (31:01):
I don't know, but I have no idea that I
worked as for fifteen years and like.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
What what.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Did Pete order?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
There?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Was his go to order?
Speaker 9 (31:13):
It was it was a breakfast meal. But at that
breakfast combo.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Okay, like the breakfast combo?
Speaker 9 (31:17):
Like but do you expect it? Like like like I'm
just here and that's.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Well I don't, but I mean Pete, I don't know.
I can't. He's obviously not here to defend himself. But yeah,
I mean that's what you say. Seems like you it
touched the nerve enough to call up here and tell
the story. Tim, So obviously you bothered you all these
years you called up to tell the story.
Speaker 9 (31:39):
Well, it's the thing that he also after he was
doing his gambling thing. I just kept it was his ego.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I think that well he definitely, Yeah, I mean he
was the king. Nobody will debate the ego of Pete Rose.
I got to leave it there, Tim, But thank you
the great Tim in Florida on the night Pete Rose died,
sharing a story of Pete being a tight wad, Bob
Evans Okay, thank you, thank you for that. Reminds me
of the night Muhammad Ali died. Remember we did a
tribute to Muhammad Ali and a couple of people called
(32:10):
up to take shots at muhammadad that that particular night.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
But got him cheating on his wife all the time.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Now it was a military thing. Oh, the military and
weapon guys that were in Vietnam. We're upset with Muhammad Ali.
But anyway, all right, it is the Ben Mahlord Show.
As a week continue, We're gonna have Mallard to the
third degree. Mallard of the third degree. We'll get to that.
But time now for the instant trivia. Jared Goff and
(32:38):
Aman Ross Saint Brown became the eighth duo where each
threw touchdown passes to the other in the same game.
The last NFL duo to do that was blank and Blank. Again,
Jared Goff, A'man Rossaint Brown. Eighth duo to each throw
a touchdown pass to the other in the same game.
The last duo to do it was blank and blank.
(32:58):
That is the insta trivia. The answer. We'll get to it.
We'll do it next.
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It's Ben Maler.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
It's the trivia. Jared Goff and I'm on Ross Saint
Brown became the eighth duo where each had a touchdown
pass to the other in the same games. Only happened
eight times in NFL history. The last duo or to
do it was Blank and Blank. That is the question,
what is the answer? Cheeaching Chong? Guessed by the Cowboy
Killer Bert and Ernie from Kelly Donut Kelly in Nashville,
(34:00):
Michael waka walka walka for mister nice guy. Who else
do we have Butch and Luke The Bushwhackers from Rob
in Vegas. Who else do we have? Page and mister
Furley and mister Roper from Alf the Alien Opiner, Jimmy
Carter and Rod Carew who are at one hundred and
seventy nine today? All right? Not the same? Ren and
(34:22):
Stimpy from Milkman. Mike, Do you have an answer quickly?
I do not? Oh, come on, it's bat Chumby. I
was listening all right? Neither was I? Yah. The correct
answer would be the immortal Blake Bortles and Marquise Lee
of the jack Waers. Wow twenty sixteen, it's how about that?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
To the third degree? This is when Big Ben gets.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Grilled Cooper all Loop justin Kooper.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
So, after looking pretty bad the first couple of weeks
of the season, Kayleb Williams has been much improved over
the last two weeks. Ben, should Bears fans be thrilled
with Caleb's progress?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
No, because the guy that was drafted third in the
draft or second in the draft rather has been the
total breakout stud of the NFL, Jaden Daniels. That's the problem.
And the numbers that Caleb Williams had against the Colts
were inflated. If you watch that game he had the
hail Mary pass that came up short of an end
(35:24):
of the end zone. Was I think he's like even
the last two weeks, I think he's the twenty thrank quarterback.
So that's still not good. I mean it's it's better
than he was, but not that good.
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Next, Luis a Ryan just became the first player in
MLB history to win three consecutive batting titles with three
different teams.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Ben, do you think O'Ryan is being undervalued?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Well in yeah, in real baseball, yeah, but in nerd ball,
in analytics baseball. He doesn't hit the ball out of
the ballpark. He's not that valuable. I wouldn't be shocked
if the Padres trade his ass to another team this offseason.
It's the thing to do. The guys won batting titles
and with multiple teams now, and he's on his third
(36:05):
team already, and he's not even twenty eight years old.
Speaker 8 (36:08):
Next when that's been up potentially making a change at quarterback.
Patriots head coach Jerod Mayo said, at this point, Jacoby
is our starting quarterback. But then he said, we have
a long flight to go back and watch the film,
and Roy's evaluating every single position. Then you think Drake
May starts next week.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Well, if if you're trying to win, you would you
would not start Jacoby Brissett, anybody but Jacoby Brissett. So
if I was running the Patriots, I would start Drake May.
Do I think they're gonna start Drake May. No, I
think they're gonna continue because they're pig headed. And I'll
talk more about this later, but they're gonna go with
Jacoby Brissette. How did we die? He rose and Bob Evans.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
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