July 11, 2025 • 41 mins
Ben Maller talks about the passing of former Cubs manager Lee Elia and how his epic rant against the fans is the best of all-time, social media chatter about Braves star Ronald Acuna Jr. being on the trade block, Maller to the Third Degree, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ding dong. It's our numb bird two. Our number two
is ready for you. So here at our number two.
We celebrate the goat, the goaty goaty micgoat, the greatest
of all time. Now we're gonna have more on this
on the Fifth Hour podcast, and you're gonna want to
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hear that. But here on the original recipe Ben Mathers Show,
what are your reflections on former Cub manager Lee Ilia's life?
He passed away this week at age eighty seven. Also
lots of social media chatter about bravestar Ronald Acuna Jr.
Being on the trading block? Is that fair or foul?
And the Mets outfielder Brandon Nimmo, he thinks that baseball
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should get rid of the rule that says every team
should have an all star representative, says it's broken. Are
you on board with that? We'll go there as well.
All of it coming your way right now. It's our
number two, the Goat of goats crossing the pearly gates.
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a story that we knew was going to happen sooner
than later, and of all the days to happen, it
just happened to take place on Thursday. So it's a
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baseball store, but we paused the standard Major League baseball
chatter for something a little bit different, and people talk
about legends of the game and who's the greatest. The
goat talk. But if you haven't heard what we're going
to play here in a couple of minutes, then you
really don't know who the goat of the tirade is.
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You might not know what I'm talking about. But there's
a gentleman who managed the Cubs and the Philadelphia Phillies
name Lee Ilia, and Lee Ilia died this week. He
was eighty seven. News came out, news came out yesterday.
And if you're of a certain age, you might not
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know that name. You probably don't know that name. Maybe
you've heard it a little bit if you've been listening
to any sports radio. But Lee Ilia. We mentioned he
managed the Cubs very briefly, very briefly, over forty years ago.
He then got another job in Philadelphia in nineteen eighty seven,
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and so he had a couple of jobs. He had
a losing record, he never made the playoffs as a manager.
And yet the day that he dies, everyone has a
story about Lee Ilia. Everyone wants to talk about Lee Ilia.
So why is everyone talking about this guy? Well, because
Lee Ilia gave the world a gift. He left the
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world a gift that will live on long after Lee
passed away for many many years, and this is the standard.
This is the gold standard. So let's take you back
to April twenty ninth, nineteen eighty three, Wrigly Field, Chicago.
The Cubs were playing the Dodgers, and the Dodgers won
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the game. The Cubs were off to a terrible start,
miserable baseball. And in those days, it was a mom
and pop operation at Wrigley Field. So these ballparks were
all crap holes. And so the doug the clubhouse for
the Cubs, was in center field. It was down in
the outfield. So after you lost the game, you had
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to leave the dugout at Wrigley and you had to
walk out to the clubhouse in center field. And the
bleacher bumps in Chicago started throwing trash at the Cub players. Well,
that led to then Cub manager Lee Iela letting the
world know what he thought of the Cub fans and
what he thought of people that go to Wrigley Field.
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Take a listen, let's go to the audio tape.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
We got all these so called feaking fans that come
out there, Cub fans that are supposed to be behind it,
ripping every sacking thing you do. I'll tell you one
second thing I hope we get speaking hotter and get
it just to stuff it up them three thousand people
that show up every second day, because if they're the
real Chicago fans, they can kiss my seaking.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Ass right downtown and print it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
They're really really behind.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
You around here, my seeking ass.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And nobody's going with it because you guys are written good.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
What the fuck am I supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Go out there and let my fing players get destroyed
every day and be quiet about it for the nickel
dye people to show up. The motherfuckers do not even
work game, don't get a job and find out what
it's like to go out there and living working the
other fifteen come out here playground. The players got guys.
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People poo And that's because.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
My ass all right. He actually went on even longer
than that. But that is art. What you heard there
is art. That is magic, That is audio gold. So
let us discuss what are your reflections on the passing
of former Cub manager Lee. What are your reflections on
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his life in baseball? So I've got Michael Angelo, taste
buds and cheerleading, and we'll combine all of these things
together and we'll have a deep dish Chicago pizza so a.
Lee Ilia, while he wore a baseball uniform, was like
Robin Williams or Dave Chappelle. He made people smile, he
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made people laugh. Very rarely does one reach perfection in life.
People always strive for perfection. You often come up just
a little bit short. But on that day in nineteen
eighty three, in April of nineteen eighty three, Lee Elia
gave the world the magnum opus. It was his magnum opus,
and we all get to enjoy it. There have been
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many great rants by coaches and people in sports over
the years, and I know later on on the Fifth
Hour podcast, I'll talk about some of my favorites. But
whether it's Tommy Lasorda or Dennis Green, or Bobby Knight
or so many others, all of them were good. None
of them. None of them can match what you heard
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moments ago from Lee Ilia. What Lee Elia did is
the Michelangelo. He's the Michelangelo of the Meltdown. It wasn't
just a rant, It was more than that. It was
painting the Sistine Chapel with words, with audio. Every sentence
that I heard there was a brushstroke of greatness right
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every syllable perfection. It was raw, it was unfiltered emotion.
Gotta remember, in those days, Wrigley Field did not have lights.
Every one of the Cub home games was a day game.
So he essentially said anyone that came to watch Cubs
baseball didn't have a job. He said the entire fan
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base didn't have a job. He didn't just call out
the fans, he excommunicated the entire Chicago Cub fan base.
He called them nickelin dime people. Eighty five percent of
the world's work. The other fifteen percent come out here.
It's a playground for the blank blanks. And he didn't
just defend his players, he canonized them. I mean, I
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just can't tell you enough how great that was and
how we'll likely never get that in our lifetime. Maybe
somewhere down the line, you know, time goes on forever.
Some generation will get someone that will top that. But
I won't be around and you won't be around. Lee
Elia etched his name in the Book of Legends. He said, well,
who's the greatest quarterback? People say, well, Tom Brady, who's
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the all time greatest NBA player? The real ones will
say Michael Jordan, Right, Michael Jordan, who's the greatest baseball player.
Most people say Babe Ruth Right who gave us the
greatest coaching meltdown, Lee Ilia. Period. Stop. That's it. Now
in cub history lee Ilia is somewhere like near bart
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Man and Billy the Billy Goat Curse and all that stuff.
But it is one of the most endearing works of
art that here we are over forty years later, and
we still play it, we still smile. New generations are
introduced to this audio. I was lucky enough years ago
on my travels to meet Les Grobstein, who was the
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one that recorded that. Was a radio man in Chicago,
actually did the overnights at the score for years. Lee yea.
Les actually passed away a couple years back. But rest
in peace to the Goat, and make sure this weekend
you pour one out for our homie of the coaching tirade,
the greatest of all time, Lee Elia. And remember eighty
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five percent of the world's work. The other fifteen percent
come out to Wrigley Field. It's a playground for the
blank bikes, all right. Meanwhile, we go now to the
A t L. Why a lot of social media chatter,
a lot of social media chatter that the Bravos could
say bye bye to star Ronald Acuno Jr. So a
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lot of chatter that he's on the trading block. Is
that fair or foul? Is it fair or foul? So
despite popular opinion by the people who are insiders, it's
a fair ball. Fair ball. Now some of the baseball
media elites have come out here, the guardians of the game,
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and they are dismissing the very notion that Ronald Acuna Jr.
Could be available preposterous. It's just clickbait, right they talking.
I know better than you call me a sucker, but
I buy it. I do. I believe it's it's in play.
I'm not saying it's going to be traded. I believe
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there are conversations. If it's so laughable that the Braves
would trade Ronald Alcuna Jr. Why does the rumor persist.
I'll tell you why, because there's some truth to it, right,
And remember, taste buds change. You probably like stuff you
didn't like when you're eight years old, and if you're
eight years old, you shouldn't be listening. So who cares this?
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This is his his stick, you know, his act Ronald
Lacuna juior is. It is an acquired taste, taste budge
change right, And he's put up good numbers offensively there.
But there are factions in Atlanta. There are factions that
I ask guy, you know, the stopping and the bat
flipping and the check me out jogs around the bases.
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He's got when he hits a home run. Now he's
got a different celebration for every ten feet around the base.
So that has a limited shelf life if you're always
getting hurt. And that's the that's the rub on this.
For all of the grand standing and all of the
swag walking, Kuna is made out of paper mache. Should
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have been a basketball player. With all of the injuries
and since debuting in twenty eighteen, he has had not
one but two torn acls, one on each each knee.
He's had the following injuries. He's missed games because of
a groin injury, quad, hammy, wrist, back, foot, all of
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it in Atlanta. Having a tough time this week in
Oakland or not in Oakland. There's a Freudian slip in
Sacramento or not just Sacramento, West Sacramento. But the Braves
are a middling team, and it makes you wonder. I
like the whispers continue out there that they're listening. They're
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not actively trying to get rid of the player, but
they're listening, and it's I think it's more than just
tabloid nonsense. And they also some smoke there a little smoke,
there's gas, there's smoke. There's probably some fire. And the
Braves will never admit it. If the Red Sox called
the Atlanta Braves up and said, we'll send you Jaron
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Duran and a couple of our top minor league pitchers
and we'll throw some other stuff in there with the Brave,
make that deal the Angels. They need all kinds of help,
right with the Angels trade some players to Atlanta, and
the Angels and Braves, that's essentially all they do is
trade players to each other. How about a team like
the Tigers, who are the top team in baseball this year,
they want to make another big splash move before the
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July thirty first trade deadline. Inquiring minds would like to
know all right now, last word, we go out to
New York where New York Metropolitan out through the Brandon Mimo.
Doesn't that sound like a Disney Ride. Brandon Nimo. He
thinks that Major League Baseball needs to change a rule.
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That's right. Brandon Nimo believes that it's time to forget this.
Every team gets an All Star rep rule, says it's broken.
Brandon Nimo. Because we really care what Brandon Neimo has
to say. He says it should only be the best players,
not the best players on every team. So are you
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all on board? Are you on board with this? So?
I am not? I am not. This is mostly Brandon
Nemo cheerleading for his homie Juan Soda. Now, as for
the meat of the matter on this one, we've gone
back and forth on this over the years and today
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my position is that they should keep it the way
it is. The rule exists for a reason. You're supposed
to grow the game. Baseball has continued to be for
probably thirty years now. It's been a regional sport. It's
been a regional sport, and there are so many teams
that blow, like the Pirates and the Rockies and the
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White Sox, and you want people that like those teams
for some reason to watch, and if their team's got
nobody in the game either, they're not gonna watch or
they're flipping over to Netflix by the second inning. Now,
for me, it's nostalgia because I remember back in the day,
there was a time the Dodgers sucked, right, they were
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a bad team. They didn't have good players. There was
one it was actually a couple of years they only
had one All Star. The most famous year in Dodger history,
though in modern times they there was. I think it
was the early nineties they had one All Star. It
was Mike Sharperson, the late Mike Sharperson. It's like, man,
that's things are not going well for the Dodgers. But
I remember watching I was like, I was hoping he
would get into the game and listen. I get the
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fact that the Yankees and the Dodgers have all the
top players. If you said only the top players are
going to be and it'd be mostly Yankees and Dodgers,
a few Red Socks, and you know a couple of
other teams. The Tigers would obviously be in there. But
the players don't even like the All Star Game. It's
a nuisance. The All Star Game is a nuisance for
the players. They don't like it. They're not fans of it.
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So anyway, those are my thoughts on the All Star Game.
It's just just an exhibition. It didn't matter for a
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act accordingly. And now back to it. So I got
an email from Friy Daddy, a senior member of the
Malord Militia, the Pennsylvania Division, the Brigade in Pennsylvania, the
battalion over there, and he writes in says, can you
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imagine been a manager making that same rant like Lee
Ilya today? They would want to put him in prison
for life? Said theF and best rant I ever heard. No,
the reason, fry Daddy David in Pennsylvania, the reason that
is the greatest rant you've ever heard is because that
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is the greatest rant ever done, ever recorded. There's nothing
that can match that. The one thing you're not supposed
to do in sports. I remember when I got hired
to do stuff with the Dodgers years ago, this long
time ago. The O'Malley family on the team, and one
of the executives for the team was like, listen, you
know you can do it. You can you can rip.
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He was kind of give me the insights like, listen,
you can rip the players, you can rip the general manager,
you can rip the manager, you can rip the ownership,
but you're not allowed to rip the fans. You can't
rip the fan. That's like, you can't cross that line.
And Lee Ilia didn't just cross that line. He took
a nuclear warhead and dropped it on top of that.
Jason Jason writes in says the late chet Copic always
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said he was in Lee IA's office for that rant,
and that his Chicago TV station had video of it,
which unfortunately was misplaced last shortly after the initial broadcast. Yeah,
don't I don't believe that. Also, fun fact, Jason, fun
factor that malor fun fact, chet Copic threatened to sue me.
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I had a website and I had written something about chet.
He didn't like it, and he fired off a very
angry letter and was going to sue me. He's he's
gone now, so I don't think I have to worry
about that. Jason says, serious question. Much like Fridad. He says,
would a manager get fired for that exact same rant today?
My guess is probably as even though the F word
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is is ubiquitous in public conversation now, unlike in nineteen
eighty three, ye fired well. Having spoken to the guy
that recorded that and talked to some people in Chicago
over the years in the media, they tell me that
lee Ilia was very close to being fired after that,
And that thing was before the Internet, and there was
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no internet in nineteen eighty three. What used to happen
is people would pass around copies, like black market copies
of that audio, and that went everywhere. Within a week
or two. People were mailing snail mail, because that's how
you do it. They were mailing that on cassette tapes
around to everybody, as I was told, And so whenever
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in the Cubs almost fired me, lasted a couple more months.
But the amazing thing about that is so Lee Ilia
got fired a few months after that rant that we played.
He passed away this week at age eighty seven. He
then got another job managing in the big leagues with
the Philadelphia Phillies. Jay Scoop writes in He's a multi
time platinum winner of the Mallard Palooza, which is coming
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up a week from Sunday to Monday. And he had
a great idea, Jay Scoop, Great minds thinking like I
will cover that. I will cover that in the fifth
Hour podcast later today, which will trigger Terry in England.
We might have to do an intervention for Terry in England.
He'll be very upset. Malard prop Guy rights and says
another eleven out of ten Mallard monologue, thank you for
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sharing the classic Lee Ilia rant the material. He says,
he's praising me here that we come up with. Here says,
you don't need to play audio. You speak gold nightly
out of curiosity. Why don't you play more audio, says
Mallard prop Guy. Well, most of it's a timing issue.
Like I have to get all the audio myself. Nobody
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else does it, so it takes a long time to
get it and to track it down, and so oftentimes
I just don't have time because I'm working on other things.
But the days I do, you know, I'll throw some
audio in there. But usually just I just don't have
the time to do it. Otherwise I would. So that's
just the reason we don't do it. Let's go to
the phones and we'll say hello to Eeny Meenie miney moe.
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Let's see here. Let's say hello to Andre who's in
the Commonwealth. Hello Andre and his dog Willis.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
What's going on? Ben Willis and I checking in for
this Thursday edition and the mallor Militia. Great show going on.
Let's sen this guy expresses his sentiments there. Of course,
it doesn't deserve to be fire particularly. You know that
those type of things, you you deserved an accommodation. What
was that nineteen eighty three to auesome eighties? You know,
he's speaking from the heart, okay, giving you a little
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bit of that hooks buck. Okay, he's saying he sees
people out there, is what Rob Parker would say. You're
a sugar though. Okay, you come you don't support the team, right,
and I am. I'm gonna tell you how I feel
about it.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
They are who we thought they were, Okay, And so
in my opinion, he deserves in a coma. He deserves
a race for that, for that, for that little bit.
He's firing the team up, you know, firing the people
in the city up. Now again, it's not the people
in the city's fault today. You know that the team
has been struggling. It's because you know everybody, you know,
he made some some slanderous comments. You know, just because
people go to the game, it doesn't mean they're underemployed
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or unemployed. You know, it's just like baseball. So you
don't need to, you know, cast his versions on folks.
But those type of things today in this cancel culture.
You know, you don't put a comment here or semi
cola there. You say one word at of place, and
all of a sudden you gotta be canceled. I don't
go for that. You make a mistake, an honest mistake.
First of all, apologize and you know you have your
due penalty. And then and then we move forward. Not
to fool me once. You know, shame on me for
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me twice. Put me want shame on you for me twice.
Shame on me. If it continues, then you might have
to go. But the first mistake, you know, I don't.
But yeah, I like that awesome eighties reference, and I
think we can learn from it. It's amazing, right, I'm
in the eighties, baby, so it's like forty some odd years.
You know, it's getting up there.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
But we certainly can learn. Well, it's agree we certainly
come not been.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
We talked about MLB. Let's get down to specific here.
There's two things that need to be discussed. First of all,
the third strike challenge awesome, long overdue. Tip my hat
to Major League Baseball. This is almost as beneficial as
the pitch clock. It's going to do the game well
because you go there, you see man, these third strikes
that these umpires are missing. And I'm a referee, I understand,
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but dog want that affects the game. So this should
have been done a long time ago. Wimbledon shout out
to the Classics, the Grand Slam. They've incorporated this about
a decade ago. Or you can challenge plays, you know,
it's just awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
You can see undred timeout. Andrea though as a referee, right,
you've talked about you do officiating in your area. But
what isn't that I grew up that was the human element,
that mistakes were part of the game. You're not. No
one's supposed to be perfect. Baseball players don't bat a
thousand right, Basketball players don't make every shot. Officials don't
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get every call right. It's not supposed to be perfect,
So why are the officials supposed to be perfect?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I don't get it, No, Ben, that's not my The
officials aren't supposed to be perfect, but now having this challenge,
we get closer to getting it right. So the challenge,
incorporating the challenge, and it's just I chipped my head.
They should have done in a long time ago, and
it really does you know whether it's a ball, whether
it's a strike, just and the time won't even be
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an issue. So that's the one thing that's awesome. Now,
a couple of things a baseball, these robot umpires, maybe
for the All Star Games. Get them the heck out
of here, Okay, don't even think about trying to automate
the human element of the game in that capacity.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
All right, well there was you. There we go. That's
something we agree on. Okay, we agree on that.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
The third the challenge is wonderful. But this idea of
automating everything an AI, you know Terminator two now, which
is a great movie back in the day. Now it's
just becoming the world's reality. That's out of bounds. You
may do it for the All Star Game. I don't
want to see that again. I don't want to see
freaking digital or robot empires again. After this Little Dog
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and Pony show. There's no need for us, okay, because
if you have the challenge. Then that solved the problem
of missing certain calls. But dog, no, you need the
human element. We need that. So for myself, well, it's baseball.
You're taking two steps forward. Don't go ahead and take
three steps backwards now, okay, because we don't need the
pizza boxes for bases. That's ridiculous. Okay, that and having
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a man start on second base. I would do it
in a tenth inning versus the ninth, but I'll kind
of you know, so you're getting some things right baseball,
other things than the ship. They banned the ship for
some reason. Then well you hit the ball somewhere else.
What are you telling me here?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, they kind of like halfway ban the shift. You
watch games and it's like you you can't cross second base,
but they still stand like right behind second base. It's
like they kind of got rid of it. You can't
put somebody in the outfield like they used to do,
but they're still shifting people over. It's just you can't
they have that point of demarcation at second base. All right, Andre, Well,
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thank you, by what's all? Next week? The Great Andre
and his dog Willis. Let's say hello to Chris, who's
in Maryland. It is the Ben Maller Show. We are
up all night. Hello Chris in Maryland.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Hello, I'm gonna say one thing that you may not
write at the end.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But why would you tease me that you're going to
tell me something I'm going to hate? Why would you
say that, Chris? Why are you going to end the
call on a negative note?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (29:24):
First of all, do you know there's a numpire crusie
Bill Miller. Did you know that a numpire major League?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Well? I don't know if that's the same Bill Miller
that works on the show. I have no idea. I
don't know. I have to check.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Yeah, Miller, true, there's a Bill Miller Cruchie umpire in m.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Did you know, Chris in Texas there's a barbecue place
called Bill Miller's Barbecue.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Well?
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Might like that?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I do. I am excited. I should Okay, we should
get We should get Bill Miller the Empire on my podcast.
I'll interview. I have Bill Bill Miller interviewing Bill Miller.
That'll be good.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
My two favorite game And I understand that sounds like
they're gonna the players are going to wear their own uniforms.
Are not some.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yes, yes, they're bringing that back. As people complained in baseball.
It only took us. It only took social media to
get baseball to go back to that. Yes, I love that.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
I'm a baseball fan my whole life since Pee Wee League.
My first favorite player player was Roberto Clemeny. My second
favorite player was Reggie Jackson.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Mister mister October, did you have a Reggie bar back
in the day when you were younger?
Speaker 7 (30:42):
The two greatest games that I can't the third game
will be you.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Won't like it, but let me guess the Dodgers. Dodgers
lost in one of those games.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
I like Wasington Nationals when we won the World Series
and Howie Kendrick hit the Grand Slam against you.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Oh, I think I think I was at that game
at Dodger Statium. I believe I think I was at
that game.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Yes, but that that wasn't as good as the one
when they.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Hit it the cheating that Yeah, Hey, listen, I was.
I want you to know, Chris, I was a National
fan for that series. I had that nattitude. I was happy,
not that I'd ever cheered for the Nationals before, but
I supported them and all of the American people supported
good versus evil, and we're very happy the Nationals on.
(31:34):
I gotta move on, Chris, I got to move on.
Give me the thing I'm gonna is that. The thing
I'm gonna hate, is that the one I'm gonna hate.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
No, no, you yeah, well that yeah, that's the thing
you're gonna hate. And now I'm of course when Howie
Kendrick then he hit it off the foul pole to
beat the Astros. But the two greatest games I've seen
in my life the nineteen seventy one All Star Game,
the leadoff for the National League was William Ay Hank
(32:00):
Aaron in second, and then then and Reggie hit it
over the damn Tiger's roof.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I saw that highlight when I was a kid on base.
This week in baseball he showed that. All right, I
got to leave it there, Chris. But thank you, buddy.
So Chris, we went down memory lane. We went down
memory Let's go to Butch quickly, Butch, what's going on? Butch?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Welcome, Hey, Hey, Coop, Hello, Ben Miller.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
It's Ben Mallers. Not I know that's astonishing. It's not
Bill Miller, Ben Miller or anything like that. I don't
know what you're talking.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Yeah, you know, I think I think he'll be calling
this for about five years and from different countries, and
I thought I'd like to take those.
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weekend with my father in law and he was in
Germany and he was on the auto and we actually
I actually talked about you, Butch at dinner. I said, yeah,
this guy used to call up we called them auto
bon Butch. You know, yeah, I was telling him the
whole I was telling him the whole story, and he
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But I haven't. I'm in California now, so I haven't
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And I know, do you do? You do? You miss
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Speaker 4 (33:26):
And by the way, why as Ricky was or is
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Speaker 1 (33:29):
Oh come on, come on, really, is it odd, Butch
that you're back in America? Do you feel weird being here?
You were gone for so long, you must be odd.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I love this place. It's so good to be back.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Okay, all right, good, all right, Well let's do we'll
do the oath. Why not, We're gonna wear it, formally
known as auto bon. Butch, now he's just butch. All right,
repeat after me. I state your name.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I state my name.
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So help me, God, So help me God. By the
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My god, how exciting. I'm sure you're gonna wake You're
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great butcher. We started that for this guy Skeeter in Montana.
We lost Skeeter a while back, and he always said,
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So I said, all right, Skeeter, I'll swear you in.
And then a bunch of other people said I want
to be sworn in, and so we've we've done that. Anyway,
it is the Ban Maeler Show. We are going to
have mallord to the third degree. We'll get to that
straight ahead. And here's the inch to trivia. Mariner starter
Brian wo Brian Wou has pitched at least six innings
(36:01):
while walking two or fewer batters in all eighteen of
his appearances this season for the Seattle baseball team. That
is the second longest such streak to begin a season
in American League history. Behind blank that is the answer,
Trivia the answer. We'll get to that. And also Mallard
of the third degree. We will do it next.
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off the instant tribute and then we will quickly get
to Mallard of the thirty grae So Mariner starter Brian
Woo has pitched at least six innings while walking to
or fewer batters in all eighteen of his appearances this season.
That is the second longest such streak to begin a
season in American League history, behind Blank. That is the question,
(38:54):
what is the answer? And let's see does anyone know
the answer? Does anyone know the answer? Let's see your
page page down? Doja Cat from Bobby and Florida. We've
got Corey Litel from I forty Ian Congressman Eric Stallwell
(39:15):
from Atomic Asphalt. Cousin you who from Milkman, Mike Bartolo
Cologne guts by Andy, We're short on time, Moose Haas
from Donkey Sausage. Lorena, what say you, Loreno, it's got
to be stretched armstrong. Ben. No, it's Cliff Lee. Cliff
Lee back in twenty ten. I think also for the Mariners.
All right, maybe the Rangers. Here we go, Here we go,
(39:37):
Here we go, Here we go, Here we go, Here
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Speaker 5 (39:41):
This is one Big Ben gets grilled.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
The latest report on the TJ.
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Watt situation with the Steelers insists in that Pittsburgh has
no intention of trading Watt.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Ben, how do you think this stalemate ends. So you
always say you're not going to trade the player. You
don't say you're going to trade the player because you
lose let so it doesn't matter they said they should. However,
that being said, I believe they will agree to a
contract within the next two weeks. Training camp starts next
week for most NFL teams. TJ. Watt will stay in Pittsburgh.
They'll reach a compromise. He will not be leaving the
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Steelers next.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
Jared Goff said on the Netflix series Quarterback that he
felt betrayed by the Rams when they traded him, and
that it was the fact that they didn't even have
a conversation with them. He didn't even know they were
planning to move on Ben. Did the Rams do golf dirty?
Speaker 1 (40:29):
No, that Jared Goff should be sending flowers and chocolates
to Sean McVay the Rams. Jared Goff, I'm told by
our listeners in Detroit. He's on like every other commercial
on local TV. He's a beloved member of the sports community.
He was never that. He never would have been that
with the Rams. Matthew Stafford won a Super Bowl. He's
not as beloved as Jared Goff is in Detroit as
(40:51):
Stafford is in LA Now. He didn't think he was
gonna get moved because of his contract, but he should
be happy. That was a great thing for Jared go Off.
Speaker 8 (41:00):
Next there was there are three reported front runners to
sign Damian Lillard. Those are the Celtics, the Warriors, and
the heat Ben. Could you see him making a meaningful
impact on any of those teams?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I love Dame time, the guys in his mid thirties
coming off of pop Achilles. I don't see it. I
hope I'm wrong. He didn't want to play for Miami,
so why wouldn't he want to play for Miami now?
Maybe because they suck? How did we do you pass
this edition? Hie?
Speaker 5 (41:26):
I am a lum.
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Another win for add that to my total fur golf.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Come on,
Ding dong. It's our numb bird two. Our number two
is ready for you. So here at our number two.
We celebrate the goat, the goaty goaty micgoat, the greatest
of all time. Now we're gonna have more on this
on the Fifth Hour podcast, and you're gonna want to
(00:20):
hear that. But here on the original recipe Ben Mathers Show,
what are your reflections on former Cub manager Lee Ilia's life?
He passed away this week at age eighty seven. Also
lots of social media chatter about bravestar Ronald Acuna Jr.
Being on the trading block? Is that fair or foul?
And the Mets outfielder Brandon Nimmo, he thinks that baseball
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should get rid of the rule that says every team
should have an all star representative, says it's broken. Are
you on board with that? We'll go there as well.
All of it coming your way right now. It's our
number two, the Goat of goats crossing the pearly gates.
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Buying show be so our lead this hour is from
a story that we knew was going to happen sooner
than later, and of all the days to happen, it
just happened to take place on Thursday. So it's a
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baseball store, but we paused the standard Major League baseball
chatter for something a little bit different, and people talk
about legends of the game and who's the greatest. The
goat talk. But if you haven't heard what we're going
to play here in a couple of minutes, then you
really don't know who the goat of the tirade is.
(03:02):
You might not know what I'm talking about. But there's
a gentleman who managed the Cubs and the Philadelphia Phillies
name Lee Ilia, and Lee Ilia died this week. He
was eighty seven. News came out, news came out yesterday.
And if you're of a certain age, you might not
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know that name. You probably don't know that name. Maybe
you've heard it a little bit if you've been listening
to any sports radio. But Lee Ilia. We mentioned he
managed the Cubs very briefly, very briefly, over forty years ago.
He then got another job in Philadelphia in nineteen eighty seven,
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and so he had a couple of jobs. He had
a losing record, he never made the playoffs as a manager.
And yet the day that he dies, everyone has a
story about Lee Ilia. Everyone wants to talk about Lee Ilia.
So why is everyone talking about this guy? Well, because
Lee Ilia gave the world a gift. He left the
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world a gift that will live on long after Lee
passed away for many many years, and this is the standard.
This is the gold standard. So let's take you back
to April twenty ninth, nineteen eighty three, Wrigly Field, Chicago.
The Cubs were playing the Dodgers, and the Dodgers won
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the game. The Cubs were off to a terrible start,
miserable baseball. And in those days, it was a mom
and pop operation at Wrigley Field. So these ballparks were
all crap holes. And so the doug the clubhouse for
the Cubs, was in center field. It was down in
the outfield. So after you lost the game, you had
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to leave the dugout at Wrigley and you had to
walk out to the clubhouse in center field. And the
bleacher bumps in Chicago started throwing trash at the Cub players. Well,
that led to then Cub manager Lee Iela letting the
world know what he thought of the Cub fans and
what he thought of people that go to Wrigley Field.
(05:12):
Take a listen, let's go to the audio tape.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
We got all these so called feaking fans that come
out there, Cub fans that are supposed to be behind it,
ripping every sacking thing you do. I'll tell you one
second thing I hope we get speaking hotter and get
it just to stuff it up them three thousand people
that show up every second day, because if they're the
real Chicago fans, they can kiss my seaking.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Ass right downtown and print it.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
They're really really behind.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
You around here, my seeking ass.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And nobody's going with it because you guys are written good.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
What the fuck am I supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Go out there and let my fing players get destroyed
every day and be quiet about it for the nickel
dye people to show up. The motherfuckers do not even
work game, don't get a job and find out what
it's like to go out there and living working the
other fifteen come out here playground. The players got guys.
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People poo And that's because.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
My ass all right. He actually went on even longer
than that. But that is art. What you heard there
is art. That is magic, That is audio gold. So
let us discuss what are your reflections on the passing
of former Cub manager Lee. What are your reflections on
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his life in baseball? So I've got Michael Angelo, taste
buds and cheerleading, and we'll combine all of these things
together and we'll have a deep dish Chicago pizza so a.
Lee Ilia, while he wore a baseball uniform, was like
Robin Williams or Dave Chappelle. He made people smile, he
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made people laugh. Very rarely does one reach perfection in life.
People always strive for perfection. You often come up just
a little bit short. But on that day in nineteen
eighty three, in April of nineteen eighty three, Lee Elia
gave the world the magnum opus. It was his magnum opus,
and we all get to enjoy it. There have been
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many great rants by coaches and people in sports over
the years, and I know later on on the Fifth
Hour podcast, I'll talk about some of my favorites. But
whether it's Tommy Lasorda or Dennis Green, or Bobby Knight
or so many others, all of them were good. None
of them. None of them can match what you heard
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moments ago from Lee Ilia. What Lee Elia did is
the Michelangelo. He's the Michelangelo of the Meltdown. It wasn't
just a rant, It was more than that. It was
painting the Sistine Chapel with words, with audio. Every sentence
that I heard there was a brushstroke of greatness right
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every syllable perfection. It was raw, it was unfiltered emotion.
Gotta remember, in those days, Wrigley Field did not have lights.
Every one of the Cub home games was a day game.
So he essentially said anyone that came to watch Cubs
baseball didn't have a job. He said the entire fan
(08:40):
base didn't have a job. He didn't just call out
the fans, he excommunicated the entire Chicago Cub fan base.
He called them nickelin dime people. Eighty five percent of
the world's work. The other fifteen percent come out here.
It's a playground for the blank blanks. And he didn't
just defend his players, he canonized them. I mean, I
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just can't tell you enough how great that was and
how we'll likely never get that in our lifetime. Maybe
somewhere down the line, you know, time goes on forever.
Some generation will get someone that will top that. But
I won't be around and you won't be around. Lee
Elia etched his name in the Book of Legends. He said, well,
who's the greatest quarterback? People say, well, Tom Brady, who's
(09:28):
the all time greatest NBA player? The real ones will
say Michael Jordan, Right, Michael Jordan, who's the greatest baseball player.
Most people say Babe Ruth Right who gave us the
greatest coaching meltdown, Lee Ilia. Period. Stop. That's it. Now
in cub history lee Ilia is somewhere like near bart
(09:48):
Man and Billy the Billy Goat Curse and all that stuff.
But it is one of the most endearing works of
art that here we are over forty years later, and
we still play it, we still smile. New generations are
introduced to this audio. I was lucky enough years ago
on my travels to meet Les Grobstein, who was the
(10:09):
one that recorded that. Was a radio man in Chicago,
actually did the overnights at the score for years. Lee yea.
Les actually passed away a couple years back. But rest
in peace to the Goat, and make sure this weekend
you pour one out for our homie of the coaching tirade,
the greatest of all time, Lee Elia. And remember eighty
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five percent of the world's work. The other fifteen percent
come out to Wrigley Field. It's a playground for the
blank bikes, all right. Meanwhile, we go now to the
A t L. Why a lot of social media chatter,
a lot of social media chatter that the Bravos could
say bye bye to star Ronald Acuno Jr. So a
(10:54):
lot of chatter that he's on the trading block. Is
that fair or foul? Is it fair or foul? So
despite popular opinion by the people who are insiders, it's
a fair ball. Fair ball. Now some of the baseball
media elites have come out here, the guardians of the game,
(11:18):
and they are dismissing the very notion that Ronald Acuna Jr.
Could be available preposterous. It's just clickbait, right they talking.
I know better than you call me a sucker, but
I buy it. I do. I believe it's it's in play.
I'm not saying it's going to be traded. I believe
(11:38):
there are conversations. If it's so laughable that the Braves
would trade Ronald Alcuna Jr. Why does the rumor persist.
I'll tell you why, because there's some truth to it, right,
And remember, taste buds change. You probably like stuff you
didn't like when you're eight years old, and if you're
eight years old, you shouldn't be listening. So who cares this?
(12:01):
This is his his stick, you know, his act Ronald
Lacuna juior is. It is an acquired taste, taste budge
change right, And he's put up good numbers offensively there.
But there are factions in Atlanta. There are factions that
I ask guy, you know, the stopping and the bat
flipping and the check me out jogs around the bases.
(12:23):
He's got when he hits a home run. Now he's
got a different celebration for every ten feet around the base.
So that has a limited shelf life if you're always
getting hurt. And that's the that's the rub on this.
For all of the grand standing and all of the
swag walking, Kuna is made out of paper mache. Should
(12:45):
have been a basketball player. With all of the injuries
and since debuting in twenty eighteen, he has had not
one but two torn acls, one on each each knee.
He's had the following injuries. He's missed games because of
a groin injury, quad, hammy, wrist, back, foot, all of
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it in Atlanta. Having a tough time this week in
Oakland or not in Oakland. There's a Freudian slip in
Sacramento or not just Sacramento, West Sacramento. But the Braves
are a middling team, and it makes you wonder. I
like the whispers continue out there that they're listening. They're
(13:30):
not actively trying to get rid of the player, but
they're listening, and it's I think it's more than just
tabloid nonsense. And they also some smoke there a little smoke,
there's gas, there's smoke. There's probably some fire. And the
Braves will never admit it. If the Red Sox called
the Atlanta Braves up and said, we'll send you Jaron
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Duran and a couple of our top minor league pitchers
and we'll throw some other stuff in there with the Brave,
make that deal the Angels. They need all kinds of help,
right with the Angels trade some players to Atlanta, and
the Angels and Braves, that's essentially all they do is
trade players to each other. How about a team like
the Tigers, who are the top team in baseball this year,
they want to make another big splash move before the
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July thirty first trade deadline. Inquiring minds would like to
know all right now, last word, we go out to
New York where New York Metropolitan out through the Brandon Mimo.
Doesn't that sound like a Disney Ride. Brandon Nimo. He
thinks that Major League Baseball needs to change a rule.
(14:36):
That's right. Brandon Nimo believes that it's time to forget this.
Every team gets an All Star rep rule, says it's broken.
Brandon Nimo. Because we really care what Brandon Neimo has
to say. He says it should only be the best players,
not the best players on every team. So are you
(14:59):
all on board? Are you on board with this? So?
I am not? I am not. This is mostly Brandon
Nemo cheerleading for his homie Juan Soda. Now, as for
the meat of the matter on this one, we've gone
back and forth on this over the years and today
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my position is that they should keep it the way
it is. The rule exists for a reason. You're supposed
to grow the game. Baseball has continued to be for
probably thirty years now. It's been a regional sport. It's
been a regional sport, and there are so many teams
that blow, like the Pirates and the Rockies and the
(15:44):
White Sox, and you want people that like those teams
for some reason to watch, and if their team's got
nobody in the game either, they're not gonna watch or
they're flipping over to Netflix by the second inning. Now,
for me, it's nostalgia because I remember back in the day,
there was a time the Dodgers sucked, right, they were
(16:04):
a bad team. They didn't have good players. There was
one it was actually a couple of years they only
had one All Star. The most famous year in Dodger history,
though in modern times they there was. I think it
was the early nineties they had one All Star. It
was Mike Sharperson, the late Mike Sharperson. It's like, man,
that's things are not going well for the Dodgers. But
I remember watching I was like, I was hoping he
would get into the game and listen. I get the
(16:28):
fact that the Yankees and the Dodgers have all the
top players. If you said only the top players are
going to be and it'd be mostly Yankees and Dodgers,
a few Red Socks, and you know a couple of
other teams. The Tigers would obviously be in there. But
the players don't even like the All Star Game. It's
a nuisance. The All Star Game is a nuisance for
the players. They don't like it. They're not fans of it.
(16:52):
So anyway, those are my thoughts on the All Star Game.
It's just just an exhibition. It didn't matter for a
little bit. Now just an exhibition. Well, this is not
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act accordingly. And now back to it. So I got
an email from Friy Daddy, a senior member of the
Malord Militia, the Pennsylvania Division, the Brigade in Pennsylvania, the
battalion over there, and he writes in says, can you
(20:07):
imagine been a manager making that same rant like Lee
Ilya today? They would want to put him in prison
for life? Said theF and best rant I ever heard. No,
the reason, fry Daddy David in Pennsylvania, the reason that
is the greatest rant you've ever heard is because that
(20:28):
is the greatest rant ever done, ever recorded. There's nothing
that can match that. The one thing you're not supposed
to do in sports. I remember when I got hired
to do stuff with the Dodgers years ago, this long
time ago. The O'Malley family on the team, and one
of the executives for the team was like, listen, you
know you can do it. You can you can rip.
(20:48):
He was kind of give me the insights like, listen,
you can rip the players, you can rip the general manager,
you can rip the manager, you can rip the ownership,
but you're not allowed to rip the fans. You can't
rip the fan. That's like, you can't cross that line.
And Lee Ilia didn't just cross that line. He took
a nuclear warhead and dropped it on top of that.
Jason Jason writes in says the late chet Copic always
(21:13):
said he was in Lee IA's office for that rant,
and that his Chicago TV station had video of it,
which unfortunately was misplaced last shortly after the initial broadcast. Yeah,
don't I don't believe that. Also, fun fact, Jason, fun
factor that malor fun fact, chet Copic threatened to sue me.
(21:37):
I had a website and I had written something about chet.
He didn't like it, and he fired off a very
angry letter and was going to sue me. He's he's
gone now, so I don't think I have to worry
about that. Jason says, serious question. Much like Fridad. He says,
would a manager get fired for that exact same rant today?
My guess is probably as even though the F word
(21:59):
is is ubiquitous in public conversation now, unlike in nineteen
eighty three, ye fired well. Having spoken to the guy
that recorded that and talked to some people in Chicago
over the years in the media, they tell me that
lee Ilia was very close to being fired after that,
And that thing was before the Internet, and there was
(22:22):
no internet in nineteen eighty three. What used to happen
is people would pass around copies, like black market copies
of that audio, and that went everywhere. Within a week
or two. People were mailing snail mail, because that's how
you do it. They were mailing that on cassette tapes
around to everybody, as I was told, And so whenever
(22:45):
in the Cubs almost fired me, lasted a couple more months.
But the amazing thing about that is so Lee Ilia
got fired a few months after that rant that we played.
He passed away this week at age eighty seven. He
then got another job managing in the big leagues with
the Philadelphia Phillies. Jay Scoop writes in He's a multi
time platinum winner of the Mallard Palooza, which is coming
(23:06):
up a week from Sunday to Monday. And he had
a great idea, Jay Scoop, Great minds thinking like I
will cover that. I will cover that in the fifth
Hour podcast later today, which will trigger Terry in England.
We might have to do an intervention for Terry in England.
He'll be very upset. Malard prop Guy rights and says
another eleven out of ten Mallard monologue, thank you for
(23:29):
sharing the classic Lee Ilia rant the material. He says,
he's praising me here that we come up with. Here says,
you don't need to play audio. You speak gold nightly
out of curiosity. Why don't you play more audio, says
Mallard prop Guy. Well, most of it's a timing issue.
Like I have to get all the audio myself. Nobody
(23:51):
else does it, so it takes a long time to
get it and to track it down, and so oftentimes
I just don't have time because I'm working on other things.
But the days I do, you know, I'll throw some
audio in there. But usually just I just don't have
the time to do it. Otherwise I would. So that's
just the reason we don't do it. Let's go to
the phones and we'll say hello to Eeny Meenie miney moe.
(24:13):
Let's see here. Let's say hello to Andre who's in
the Commonwealth. Hello Andre and his dog Willis.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
What's going on? Ben Willis and I checking in for
this Thursday edition and the mallor Militia. Great show going on.
Let's sen this guy expresses his sentiments there. Of course,
it doesn't deserve to be fire particularly. You know that
those type of things, you you deserved an accommodation. What
was that nineteen eighty three to auesome eighties? You know,
he's speaking from the heart, okay, giving you a little
(24:45):
bit of that hooks buck. Okay, he's saying he sees
people out there, is what Rob Parker would say. You're
a sugar though. Okay, you come you don't support the team, right,
and I am. I'm gonna tell you how I feel
about it.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
They are who we thought they were, Okay, And so
in my opinion, he deserves in a coma. He deserves
a race for that, for that, for that little bit.
He's firing the team up, you know, firing the people
in the city up. Now again, it's not the people
in the city's fault today. You know that the team
has been struggling. It's because you know everybody, you know,
he made some some slanderous comments. You know, just because
people go to the game, it doesn't mean they're underemployed
(25:18):
or unemployed. You know, it's just like baseball. So you
don't need to, you know, cast his versions on folks.
But those type of things today in this cancel culture.
You know, you don't put a comment here or semi
cola there. You say one word at of place, and
all of a sudden you gotta be canceled. I don't
go for that. You make a mistake, an honest mistake.
First of all, apologize and you know you have your
due penalty. And then and then we move forward. Not
to fool me once. You know, shame on me for
(25:40):
me twice. Put me want shame on you for me twice.
Shame on me. If it continues, then you might have
to go. But the first mistake, you know, I don't.
But yeah, I like that awesome eighties reference, and I
think we can learn from it. It's amazing, right, I'm
in the eighties, baby, so it's like forty some odd years.
You know, it's getting up there.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
But we certainly can learn. Well, it's agree we certainly
come not been.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
We talked about MLB. Let's get down to specific here.
There's two things that need to be discussed. First of all,
the third strike challenge awesome, long overdue. Tip my hat
to Major League Baseball. This is almost as beneficial as
the pitch clock. It's going to do the game well
because you go there, you see man, these third strikes
that these umpires are missing. And I'm a referee, I understand,
(26:20):
but dog want that affects the game. So this should
have been done a long time ago. Wimbledon shout out
to the Classics, the Grand Slam. They've incorporated this about
a decade ago. Or you can challenge plays, you know,
it's just awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
You can see undred timeout. Andrea though as a referee, right,
you've talked about you do officiating in your area. But
what isn't that I grew up that was the human element,
that mistakes were part of the game. You're not. No
one's supposed to be perfect. Baseball players don't bat a
thousand right, Basketball players don't make every shot. Officials don't
(26:53):
get every call right. It's not supposed to be perfect,
So why are the officials supposed to be perfect?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I don't get it, No, Ben, that's not my The
officials aren't supposed to be perfect, but now having this challenge,
we get closer to getting it right. So the challenge,
incorporating the challenge, and it's just I chipped my head.
They should have done in a long time ago, and
it really does you know whether it's a ball, whether
it's a strike, just and the time won't even be
(27:21):
an issue. So that's the one thing that's awesome. Now,
a couple of things a baseball, these robot umpires, maybe
for the All Star Games. Get them the heck out
of here, Okay, don't even think about trying to automate
the human element of the game in that capacity.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
All right, well there was you. There we go. That's
something we agree on. Okay, we agree on that.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
The third the challenge is wonderful. But this idea of
automating everything an AI, you know Terminator two now, which
is a great movie back in the day. Now it's
just becoming the world's reality. That's out of bounds. You
may do it for the All Star Game. I don't
want to see that again. I don't want to see
freaking digital or robot empires again. After this Little Dog
(28:00):
and Pony show. There's no need for us, okay, because
if you have the challenge. Then that solved the problem
of missing certain calls. But dog, no, you need the
human element. We need that. So for myself, well, it's baseball.
You're taking two steps forward. Don't go ahead and take
three steps backwards now, okay, because we don't need the
pizza boxes for bases. That's ridiculous. Okay, that and having
(28:21):
a man start on second base. I would do it
in a tenth inning versus the ninth, but I'll kind
of you know, so you're getting some things right baseball,
other things than the ship. They banned the ship for
some reason. Then well you hit the ball somewhere else.
What are you telling me here?
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, they kind of like halfway ban the shift. You
watch games and it's like you you can't cross second base,
but they still stand like right behind second base. It's
like they kind of got rid of it. You can't
put somebody in the outfield like they used to do,
but they're still shifting people over. It's just you can't
they have that point of demarcation at second base. All right, Andre, Well,
(28:59):
thank you, by what's all? Next week? The Great Andre
and his dog Willis. Let's say hello to Chris, who's
in Maryland. It is the Ben Maller Show. We are
up all night. Hello Chris in Maryland.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Hello, I'm gonna say one thing that you may not
write at the end.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But why would you tease me that you're going to
tell me something I'm going to hate? Why would you
say that, Chris? Why are you going to end the
call on a negative note?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (29:24):
First of all, do you know there's a numpire crusie
Bill Miller. Did you know that a numpire major League?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Well? I don't know if that's the same Bill Miller
that works on the show. I have no idea. I
don't know. I have to check.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Yeah, Miller, true, there's a Bill Miller Cruchie umpire in m.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Did you know, Chris in Texas there's a barbecue place
called Bill Miller's Barbecue.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Well?
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Might like that?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I do. I am excited. I should Okay, we should
get We should get Bill Miller the Empire on my podcast.
I'll interview. I have Bill Bill Miller interviewing Bill Miller.
That'll be good.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
My two favorite game And I understand that sounds like
they're gonna the players are going to wear their own uniforms.
Are not some.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yes, yes, they're bringing that back. As people complained in baseball.
It only took us. It only took social media to
get baseball to go back to that. Yes, I love that.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
I'm a baseball fan my whole life since Pee Wee League.
My first favorite player player was Roberto Clemeny. My second
favorite player was Reggie Jackson.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Mister mister October, did you have a Reggie bar back
in the day when you were younger?
Speaker 7 (30:42):
The two greatest games that I can't the third game
will be you.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Won't like it, but let me guess the Dodgers. Dodgers
lost in one of those games.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
I like Wasington Nationals when we won the World Series
and Howie Kendrick hit the Grand Slam against you.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Oh, I think I think I was at that game
at Dodger Statium. I believe I think I was at
that game.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Yes, but that that wasn't as good as the one
when they.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Hit it the cheating that Yeah, Hey, listen, I was.
I want you to know, Chris, I was a National
fan for that series. I had that nattitude. I was happy,
not that I'd ever cheered for the Nationals before, but
I supported them and all of the American people supported
good versus evil, and we're very happy the Nationals on.
(31:34):
I gotta move on, Chris, I got to move on.
Give me the thing I'm gonna is that. The thing
I'm gonna hate, is that the one I'm gonna hate.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
No, no, you yeah, well that yeah, that's the thing
you're gonna hate. And now I'm of course when Howie
Kendrick then he hit it off the foul pole to
beat the Astros. But the two greatest games I've seen
in my life the nineteen seventy one All Star Game,
the leadoff for the National League was William Ay Hank
(32:00):
Aaron in second, and then then and Reggie hit it
over the damn Tiger's roof.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I saw that highlight when I was a kid on base.
This week in baseball he showed that. All right, I
got to leave it there, Chris. But thank you, buddy.
So Chris, we went down memory lane. We went down
memory Let's go to Butch quickly, Butch, what's going on? Butch?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Welcome, Hey, Hey, Coop, Hello, Ben Miller.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
It's Ben Mallers. Not I know that's astonishing. It's not
Bill Miller, Ben Miller or anything like that. I don't
know what you're talking.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Yeah, you know, I think I think he'll be calling
this for about five years and from different countries, and
I thought I'd like to take those.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Okay, well we can do that now. You were known
as autobond Butcher. My my, I actually had dinner last
weekend with my father in law and he was in
Germany and he was on the auto and we actually
I actually talked about you, Butch at dinner. I said, yeah,
this guy used to call up we called them auto
bon Butch. You know, yeah, I was telling him the
whole I was telling him the whole story, and he
(33:09):
was telling me about his experience in the auto.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
But I haven't. I'm in California now, so I haven't
been able to do one hundred.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
And I know, do you do? You do? You miss
what you could? At night? You might get a ticket,
but you could get from the jail. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
And by the way, why as Ricky was or is
not in the whole fame?
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Oh come on, come on, really, is it odd, Butch
that you're back in America? Do you feel weird being here?
You were gone for so long, you must be odd.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I love this place. It's so good to be back.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Okay, all right, good, all right, Well let's do we'll
do the oath. Why not, We're gonna wear it, formally
known as auto bon. Butch, now he's just butch. All right,
repeat after me. I state your name.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I state my name.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
It's not so you can't. All right, I stay your name, Butch,
do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the
Ben Mallor Show.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
That I will support and defend the Ben.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Mallor Show against all enemies.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Against all enemies, foreign.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And domestic, foreign and domestic, And that I will obey
the orders, and.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
That I will obey Ben's orders.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
This is very serious. To peacefully fight back to peace,
fight back against hostile.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Attacks, against hostile attacks.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
From rivals, sports, gas bags, and blowhearts.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Oh Jesus, a lot of rivals and lords.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
So help me, God, So help me God. By the
powers invested in me from the Malad militia, I have
sworn in you, Butcher. I'm congratulations, Butcher. It's always a
big person. It's a big moment in a man's life
when they get sworn into a overnight talk radio show.
My god, how exciting. I'm sure you're gonna wake You're
(35:08):
gonna wake your kids up and tell him right now,
and your your wife and let everyone know. Right everyone knows.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
I'm laying down right now next to my wife and booth.
My twins.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Oh, they're gonna be so proud of you. They're like,
my dad is a star. He made it, he took
the pledge. All right, thank you, Sorry, buddy, there's the
great butcher. We started that for this guy Skeeter in Montana.
We lost Skeeter a while back, and he always said,
what's the mall of militia? I want to be sworn in?
(35:37):
So I said, all right, Skeeter, I'll swear you in.
And then a bunch of other people said I want
to be sworn in, and so we've we've done that. Anyway,
it is the Ban Maeler Show. We are going to
have mallord to the third degree. We'll get to that
straight ahead. And here's the inch to trivia. Mariner starter
Brian wo Brian Wou has pitched at least six innings
(36:01):
while walking two or fewer batters in all eighteen of
his appearances this season for the Seattle baseball team. That
is the second longest such streak to begin a season
in American League history. Behind blank that is the answer,
Trivia the answer. We'll get to that. And also Mallard
of the third degree. We will do it next.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
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Speaker 4 (36:34):
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Speaker 1 (36:38):
It Today's Friday, Today's Friday, Today's Friday. That's a plum
pussy right there. Cut that meat, jerk yourself away. How
about shut up, don't worry.
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Speaker 4 (36:53):
Then I love you?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Is he gonna money?
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Man yourself?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Ben Maller, the show is over.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
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(37:26):
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(38:11):
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off the instant tribute and then we will quickly get
to Mallard of the thirty grae So Mariner starter Brian
Woo has pitched at least six innings while walking to
or fewer batters in all eighteen of his appearances this season.
That is the second longest such streak to begin a
season in American League history, behind Blank. That is the question,
(38:54):
what is the answer? And let's see does anyone know
the answer? Does anyone know the answer? Let's see your
page page down? Doja Cat from Bobby and Florida. We've
got Corey Litel from I forty Ian Congressman Eric Stallwell
(39:15):
from Atomic Asphalt. Cousin you who from Milkman, Mike Bartolo
Cologne guts by Andy, We're short on time, Moose Haas
from Donkey Sausage. Lorena, what say you, Loreno, it's got
to be stretched armstrong. Ben. No, it's Cliff Lee. Cliff
Lee back in twenty ten. I think also for the Mariners.
All right, maybe the Rangers. Here we go, Here we go,
(39:37):
Here we go, Here we go, Here we go, Here
we go, Here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
This is one Big Ben gets grilled.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
The latest report on the TJ.
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Watt situation with the Steelers insists in that Pittsburgh has
no intention of trading Watt.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Ben, how do you think this stalemate ends. So you
always say you're not going to trade the player. You
don't say you're going to trade the player because you
lose let so it doesn't matter they said they should. However,
that being said, I believe they will agree to a
contract within the next two weeks. Training camp starts next
week for most NFL teams. TJ. Watt will stay in Pittsburgh.
They'll reach a compromise. He will not be leaving the
(40:15):
Steelers next.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
Jared Goff said on the Netflix series Quarterback that he
felt betrayed by the Rams when they traded him, and
that it was the fact that they didn't even have
a conversation with them. He didn't even know they were
planning to move on Ben. Did the Rams do golf dirty?
Speaker 1 (40:29):
No, that Jared Goff should be sending flowers and chocolates
to Sean McVay the Rams. Jared Goff, I'm told by
our listeners in Detroit. He's on like every other commercial
on local TV. He's a beloved member of the sports community.
He was never that. He never would have been that
with the Rams. Matthew Stafford won a Super Bowl. He's
not as beloved as Jared Goff is in Detroit as
(40:51):
Stafford is in LA Now. He didn't think he was
gonna get moved because of his contract, but he should
be happy. That was a great thing for Jared go Off.
Speaker 8 (41:00):
Next there was there are three reported front runners to
sign Damian Lillard. Those are the Celtics, the Warriors, and
the heat Ben. Could you see him making a meaningful
impact on any of those teams?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I love Dame time, the guys in his mid thirties
coming off of pop Achilles. I don't see it. I
hope I'm wrong. He didn't want to play for Miami,
so why wouldn't he want to play for Miami now?
Maybe because they suck? How did we do you pass
this edition? Hie?
Speaker 5 (41:26):
I am a lum.
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Another win for add that to my total fur golf.
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