August 8, 2025 • 40 mins
Brian Noe talks about a 4th sex toy being thrown on the court in a WNBA game and how it's time to move on from this "joke", how all the critics have been wrong about Deion Sanders' involvement/interference with his son's team, Mike Vrabel starting a culture, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, what is going on?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I hope you're early Friday morning festivities or grand hope
everything's going well.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I want to get to in a few minutes. It
was a very.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Popular opinion a few months ago, and it's turned out
to be completely wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
A lot of.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
People were saying this over and over and over. Popular
opinion has been completely wrong. I'll give you that just
a couple of minutes here, But I want to start off.
We got another sex toy on the court of a
WNBA game. Now, this is the fourth sex toy that
has reached the court of a WNBA game. Now, there
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are a couple of layers here. I didn't realize what
was going on. I'm like, wait a minute. So over
the last week and a half, there have been four
sex toys that have been thrown onto a WNBA court
during the game. Okay, what I didn't realize was all
of the sex toys that were thrown at WNBA games
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that didn't reach the court. Because I'm looking at this
and I'm like, okay, I'm looking at all this information.
It's just all kinds of stuff. I'm not gonna bombard
you with all of these things, but a couple of
them are kind of interesting, as best I can tell,
And I tried to research this as best I can.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It's it's tough.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It's like you ever see a beautiful mind where Russell
Crowe is kind of losing his mind and he's like, oh,
this connects to that and this means this, And that's
how I was trying to figure out the timeline of
the sex toys being thrown on WNBA courts. This is
the best I can tell. So I believe this started
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back on July twenty ninth, so a little more than
a week ago. It was Tuesday to twenty ninth. It
was the Valkyries and the Dream. There was a man
that was arrested, Delbert Carver, twenty three years old, threw
a sex toy on the court. Now he was arrested
and charged with get this, those in all these charges
(02:02):
disorderly conduct, public in indecency, slash, indecent exposure, and criminal trespass.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Sounds like a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Like I'm no lawyer, I don't know, if you know
he's found guilty all across the board what that means.
But that's a lot of stuff to be charged with.
I know that much, and so I'm piecing this together. Okay,
it happened a couple of nights later, Friday, August first,
Valkyri's Chicago Sky Game.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
All right.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Then I'm like, wait a minute, something's weird with August fifth.
So this is Tuesday, August fifth, one week after the
first sex toy was thrown on the court. Okay, and
so I'm reading this story about an eighteen year old
who was arrested. He tried to throw a dildo on
the court. Didn't make it, you know, didn't reach the court.
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It hit like an uncle and the niece, like a
nine year old niece or something like at these two people.
It didn't make it onto the court. This guy was tackled,
you know, he was arrested, the whole thing. And he
said the eighteen year old, this guy named Caden Lopez,
he told officers. He was like, it's just a stupid
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prank that I was that was trending on social media.
He apologized that I'm sorry, I was just following this
stupid prank. That's what it is, like, go back to
when you were eighteen. Now, I wasn't like dildo thrown
on the court stupid during a game.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
When I was eighteen, but it's pretty freaking stupid.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And if there was something that, oh, it's just the
new thing to do, I probably would have been like,
oh cool.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It's like there's plenty of things I've done at eighteen
years old that were completely dumb, and looking back.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Like, what the hell was I thinking? That's what's happening here?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But that happened at a Connecticut Son Phoenix Mercury game.
All right, wait a minute, didn't That same night there
was a sex toy that hit Sophie Cunningham of the
Indiana Fever, And.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I'm like, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
On that same night, August fifth, there was another sex
toy thrown at the Wings Liberty game, and that sex
toy didn't reach the court. So on the same night
there were three different games. I didn't realize any of this.
I'm piecing it together, like, wait, okay, we got the
section of this is the fourth sex toy that has
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reached the court, But there's another like sub section of
sex toys that are thrown at games that haven't reached
the court, but they were thrown nevertheless, Like I'm like,
oh my gosh, I didn't realize all all this stuff
is happening. But that's where we are. I don't know
what the official count is. There are at least four
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sex toys that have made it onto the court, which
is stupid and dangerous. It hits Sophie Cunningham. It could
have been way worse that the trend like the fun
is over. At least that's how I see it. Maybe
you look at the first one like oh wow that,
or it hits Sophie Cunningham and you're like, wow, that's
kind of a coincidence. She put it out there on
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X like stop doing this, and then she's the one
who gets hit by it. And to me, the fun
is over, if there ever was any fun, the fun
is officially over.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
This is dumb. It's played out. It's not even like
oh wow, Like.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The whole shock value of it is worn off, like
the betting aspect of you could bet.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
On the color of the next one to reach the court.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
To me, the whole thing is just like what are
we doing at this point? Like this thing is done?
Like this is the equivalent of well, I don't even know.
I don't want to make it the exact same thing,
but you know, when something gets played out where it
was cool for a month for someone to say, Oh,
he's all that and a bag of ship, and then
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someone said it like months later that it was a
completely outdated No, we're not doing that anymore. Man's It's
like someone shows up to the party now and dabs
and you're like, Wow, dude, that's that way, or no, man,
that's not the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
That's where I'm at with this whole thing. It's wow.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's time to turn the page on this one. But
does that not blow your mind? I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
On Tuesday, just a couple of nights ago, three different games,
sex toys are just being thrown around from the crowd
trying to make it onto the court. They might just
hit someone upside the head and not make it to
the court. By the way, I'll turn the page on
all this. I just had a flashback, so I'll tell
you a brief story. This has nothing to do with
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sex toys being thrown at games, but it reminded me
of one game I was at a famous game and
something else was thrown and it didn't quite make the field.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
But so what I would do?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So I'm from South Bend, Indiana and way back in
what was it five? I was part of the Notre
Dame pregame show. And what was awesome about that is
they would give you a pass. You could go up
to the press box and watch the game, and you
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could actually go down to the field for the final
five minutes of the game. Really cool, right, And I
went to the Bush Push game. There's USC at Notre Dame.
Famous game. And so this is gonna sound like first
world problems, but I actually hated being in the press
box because it's enclosed in glass. You can't feel the crowd.
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It's a quote unquote working environment. You can't er, you
know what I mean. Like, I'm a lifelong Notre Dame fan.
Notre Dame scores a touchdown against number one ranked USC,
and I'm just supposed to sit on my hands.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And be like, oh, that was a good play.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Man.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'm not built like, I can't do that. I can't.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So what I would do throughout that season, I would
just stand on top of the press box. You could
go up this flight of stairs and be up there
where the Eagles nest, you know, and have this bird's
eye view of the entire stadium. You can feel the crowd.
You could cheer if you wanted to. I'm like, this
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is the spot. So for that USC game, it was packed,
Like everybody's on top of the press box and you're not.
It's like there's a ledge in front of you. It's
you know, it's almost like kind of like a treehouse
or something, I don't know, something like that. So it's
not like we're just standing on a slab of metal
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and we might topple over at any point. It's it's
kind of like enclosed, right, But it was packed. I
think they closed it down after that game. There were
way too many people up there. They're trying to film
the game, and all these people are up there from nowhere,
but I wedged my way in. I'm watching the game
on top of the breast box and I don't know why.
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There was a touchdown score Notre Dame scored a touchdown.
The crowd's going crazy, and for whatever reason, something just
caught my eye in the crowd. This one guy was
celebrating and he was sitting up pretty far, pretty up there,
you know, high up, and he took it had to
be like this super big gulp, this obnoxiously huge, either
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thermous or like literally a big gulp, like this monstrous
sized soda, and to celebrate, he just threw it as
far as he could. He just heaved this thing and
I'm watching it just soar through the air, just majestically
soared toward the field, didn't quite make the field, and
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about the tenth rower or something. It just bam nails
this dude on the side of the head.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Man, what you got those people at games? Man, these people,
it's a good idea, you know, but sorry, the the
the dildo's being thrown at w NBA games and not
quite reaching the cord. I had a flashback with the
Bush push game. You know, you never know who's listening.
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It's the famous line with radio.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's so true.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I've had so many times throughout the years where something
peculiar happens, and this this person was listening.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Really another real cool story.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So I do a show on Sundays, it's called Countdown
and one of the guys on the show, it's it's
Jeff Schwartz, former NFL player, and it's Bill Krackenberger. He's
a professional sports handicapper and crack is here in Vegas
and it was a couple of weeks ago, he sent
a text to the group and he was like, hey,
I met Frank Caliendo.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I met him.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
We ate some pizza. You know, I was out, he
was out. We're like, hey, you want to hang out.
He's like, he listens to the show on Sunday. I
guess he's got this whole routine he I don't know.
He he does like some sort of physical therapy, or
he gets in a pool and early on a Sunday
morning and he listens to the show. It's like, oh
my gosh, that's awesome. Frank caley Endo is hilarious. I
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love that guy. You never know who's listening in radio.
I would not be shocked at all if either the
dude who threw the big gulp at the Bush Bush
game was listening or the dude who got knocked upside
the head was listening, Like, yeah, I was that guy.
I don't know what hit me. It was a big gulp. Really,
that's what That's the magic of radio, right there, no
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few months ago, and it's turned out to be completely wrong.
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Speaker 6 (13:38):
Though.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It was a very popular opinion just a few months ago,
and it's turned out to be completely wrong.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It's it's not over.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
With yet, We're still early in the game, but it's
trending toward people being dead wrong.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
So, when Shador Sanders was about to get drafted and
the first round came and went no Shadeur Sanders being drafted,
and then day two came and went no Chadur in
rounds two or three, and at that time it was
very popular to say, well, I mean, if you draft Shador.
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You gotta deal with Dion Sanders, right, what if Deon
Sanders shows up. Deon Sanders's gonna weigh in, He's gonna
have all these opinions about what the Browns should be.
They should be playing Shador. Why aren't they playing my son?
That's what a lot of people were saying. Has Deon
done any of those things? There was a story this
week where Deon Sanders was maybe gonna go check out
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training camp and Shadeur.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Was like, Pops, like, just.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Just don't bother. It's gonna be a circus, it's gonna
be a whole thing. Let's just let's not do that.
So Dian hasn't even been there. Has he said anything
about the Browns. Have you caught a clip? Do you
see anything on Sports Center where Dion is like, what's
up with my son not getting first team reps?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
What's up with that?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Has he had anything to say about his son the
Cleveland Browns? Whatsoever? Any stories out there?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That was such a ridiculous take at the time, and
it looks so much more stupid now, this idea that
it was just gonna be Dion Sanders meddling with his son.
The Cleveland Browns. And that's why these teams were smart
to just stay away from Shador. You just don't want
to deal with Dion Sanders. If any team made a
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decision based on that, they have no balls, I don't
know any other way to say it. I mean, you
have no spine whatsoever. You're like, Oh, Dion Sanders might
weigh in and share an opinion or two, and then
the heat is really gonna be turned up.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
If anyone thought like that, they are pathetic as an
NFL organization.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
This is the NFL.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Controversy is all over the place, Negativity is all over
the place, opinions are everywhere you turn. You should be
playing this guy. You should be running less of this
and more of that.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
That's how it goes. That comes with the territory. You
can't make.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
A decision based on something like that. And it never
even came to be this thought that, oh, Dion is
just gonna be a maniac with all these opinions that
he's going to be sharing. I haven't heard one. I
haven't seen an article, nothing, nothing. Dion shockingly focused on
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his job in Colorado. I just don't I never understood
that take at the time, then I understand it even
less now.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
But that's the thing. I'll say real fast and I'll
get to the militia. This is the other thing.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
A lot of people are saying a lot of stupid
things because they simply don't like Shaduur Sanders.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Now here's the thing. You don't have to like him.
I mean, if he rubs you the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Okay, he dances, he does the wristwatch thing, whatever, you
think that he's full of himself, a little too flashy
for your taste.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Okay, none of that stuff bothers me.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But if it rubs you the wrong way you don't
like him, fine, you don't have to like the guy.
But I would say to anyone who doesn't like him,
just be careful that you're dislike doesn't infiltrate your opinions,
because there are a lot of people that they just
flat out don't like shador.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Again, they don't have to.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But you can't sound like a moron just because you
don't like the kid, you.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Know what I mean, And there are a lot of
people who do.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
There are a lot of people who sound like idiots
because they don't like the guy. And it's just something
to keep in mind. You know, there was a story
that Archie Manning, the you know, the gram father of
arch Manning. So Arch Manning's at Texas, he might be
the number one pick in next year's draft. And Archie
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Manning came out and he told the Texas Monthly he said,
arch isn't going to do that in terms of, you know,
leaving for the NFL Draft next year, He's not going
to do that. He'll be at Texas. And my reaction
first was, this is on the doorstep of the college
football season. Why the hell are we talking about the
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twenty twenty six NFL Draft. Shouldn't we be focused on
the twenty twenty five college football season. Texas is the
number one team and the Coaches Bowl, They've got a
legit shot to win a national championship.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And we're talking about the twenty sixth draft. Why are
we doing that?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
And my next thought was, can you imagine if all
things were equal, and this is what Shaudor Sanders was
either saying, or Dion Sanders was saying, or if Shador Sanders'
grandfather might have been saying that, Oh my gosh, do
you realize what people would be saying? They'd be like,
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oh my gosh, Shadore, can you focus on the upcoming season?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Why you're worried about the draft? Yahda YadA.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
There'd be so many people coming out of the woodwork
saying that with arch Manning is a shoulder shrug. It's
almost like a non story today. And that's my point.
Don't let your dislike infiltrate your opinions just because you
dislike Shador. When Shador was drafted, I got all these
tweets from all these people saying it made sense for
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him to be the one hundred and forty fourth pick,
and some of the reasons they're not even close to accurate.
One guy was like, hey, he's not tough. I'm like,
not tough? Did you watch him play? This offensive line
was awful. That dude took a beating and he was
for sure tough man. He took a lot of hits
and was still upright, didn't miss games. You cannot say
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Shador Sanders is not tough.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
And be accurate. That's an inaccurate statement. But that's my point.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
There are people that just don't like him, and it
turns into well, dish and well, he's not even tough.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
He's not even accurate. I mean, he doesn't do anything well.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's like, no, you just don't like the guy, and
you're saying a bunch of dumb things.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Just check yourself right again.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
You don't have to like him, but be careful of,
you know, avoiding saying stupid things based on not liking him.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That's all I would say. And then we get out
to the phones here, let's get to the militia. Love
hearing from.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Then my guy Kyle is in Boston talking some raiders.
Let's go, oh, Kyle's not there, good to know. Or
we've got blind Scott. Let's get blind Scott in here.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
What's going on? Blind Scott?
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Hey, what's up? Yeah? We were talking to radio earlier.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
Like I love radio so much, Like I think radio
is making a comeback now. They got to put more
radio people on radio. Though you can't put people who
haven't been on radio before on radio. It just doesn't
sound like correctly.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Like here's an opinion about radio.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
I have the greatest person in radio right now, I
think is Ryan Seacrest.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
I listen to his shows every day.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
He has a really good cadence, He does really good bits,
and he knows how much time to have in between
each segment, and his voice just sounds like it fits
right into every segment he does. I think if anybody
listens to his show that wants to work in radio,
they can get the perfect model for how you're supposed
to talk on radio. But I think you remind of
him kind of Brian. I think you could sit in
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that same format. He does all these dating bits like
in the La Market.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
I think they're like, really really good. He has people
call up.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
But I wanted to talk about Mike Brabel. This Mike
Brabel stuff in New England is amazing. Like you're supposed
to teach these players not to act up, not to
act like clowns. Mike Brabel's a great football, great guy,
a great football mind. He jumps into that pile with
no helmet on and gets cut in the face. I
guess you can see him after he's bleed, and these
all happys all fight up, the teams all behind them
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and stuff. It's totally fake. It's all staged for the media,
you know, But I don't know. As a coach, and
you're trying to teach these players not to act out
in games, to stay discipline, I don't know as a
coach how you can just go like that on a
field and jump in the pile and then just act
like a maniac.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
It's total It's total lunacy.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
You know what I'm saying, Brian. It doesn't fit into
the coaching standards of today. I grew up, I played
college sports. The coaches used to act like that.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Back then.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
They would do everything that you would use, every slur
in the book in the locker room. You know, nobody
really scrutinize you the coaches that much back then. That
is not a modern day coach right now. And he's
like walking a fine line of being like a social
media star in like a hardcore old school NFL coach.
But he's not Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick would have never
done that. That's what I want to point out. Bill
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Belichick would have never jumped in the pile like that.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Like what is that? You know? You know?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Listen, blind Scott, I love you, and you do you
make a great argument, and I see it completely differently.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
But I love your argument.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, Like that's the best funniest thing about sports radio.
I love a good argument, and you made a great argument.
I see it totally differently. But that's the thing, Like
a lot of people think that I want them to
agree with me, don't. I don't rage against someone seeing
it differently. I rage against a bad argument. It might
be an argument on my side, you know, like we
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both think I don't know. Let's say that we both
think the Chiefs are gonna win the Super Bowl this season.
I don't know, And your reasoning is, oh, yeah, because
I don't know, just something stupid, like you know, they're
they're gonna throw you know, Mahomes is gonna throw twenty
five touchdowns on deep balls this season.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
That's It's like, that's.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
A horrible argument, even though we both think that the
Chiefs are gonna win the super Bowl. I completely disagree
with your reasoning. So it's all about the argument. To me,
it's not about which side you're on. But listen, blind
Scott made a great argument. I'll say real fast why
I don't agree with it. The reason I do not
agree with it is that you're trying to establish a culture,
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and you're trying. What Rabel's going for is a tough
a culture of toughness, and I think that serves an
NFL team very very well. I mean this idea that
what uh, that was just a social media thing.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's just for the media. That's that's not true.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You wouldn't have players come right out in full support
of this.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
This is your quarterback, Drake May.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Here's what he said about Vrabel getting into a skirmish
the other day at practice.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
That's what we're trying to build, I think. And it
starts with the coach. Starts with the head coach. The intensity,
bringing it every day, you know, taking no crap and
you know when we're out there on the field. But
also it comes to a time where our guys offensively
and get over there and get some tussles and kind
of have some penalties and extra after the whistle, you
can get us some trouble. But for mentality, I like it.
I think that's what you want. I mean, I almost
got in there, but I think maybe no, maybe.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
So I'm here to tell you that is not fake whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Rabel knows what he's doing getting in there and you know,
showing that type of toughness or at least willingness to
put your nose in there is Players love that stuff.
It's not like they all rolled their eyes in like oh,
that was clearly for the media. That was just for
social media clicks. That wasn't their reaction at all. This
was Mario Davis, the wide receiver. This is more funny
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than anything I say.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
You should have seen the other guy. I loved it,
But to me, I get the counter argument.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I do, and a guy that I really respect who
had a lot of success in the NFL, Tony Dungeee,
Tony Dungee would agree with what blind Scott said there
completely and Tony Dungee his approach was exactly what blind
Scott talked about in Colts training camp. No fights, we're
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not you know, we're not getting penalties here. We're not
doing in the regular season. We're not doing it in
training camp, we're not doing it in practice, preseason games.
There's no place for it here. And it served them well.
That was a good approach for them. I don't think
that applies to everybody. You can a lot of different
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ways to approach these things. And for the Patriots who
only won four games, who've been kicked.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Around for a long time now.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
It's been a long time since Brady and Belichick won
the last Super Bowl, and there have been some lean
years in between that year in these last handful of years,
so you're trying to establish a new culture, toughness, you know,
all of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And I also think this too. I think that.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's easier, say in the in preseason or training camp,
or this was a joint practice with the Washington Commanders. Okay,
I think it's easier if you step over the line. Right,
there's a skirmish there, there's a fight. You're not going
to do that in the regular season. It would be
a penalty. I think it's easier if you step over
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the line in training camp to dial it back when
the real games roll around. I think it's easier to
dial it back than it is to crank it up.
I actually I would rather have my team step over
the line from time to time. Maybe there's a fight
here that maybe there's a late hit, maybe there's a
coach that jumps into a dog pile, what have you.
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I think it's easier to dial it back than it
is to crank it up.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I'll say it this way. My Dolphins. I love the Dolphins,
but they're too pretty.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I would love it if Mike McDaniel jumped into a
pile that's never going to happen. I would love it.
I would love it if there was a fight in practice.
And some might hear this and look at it and
be like, what are you talking about. No, for this example,
it's case by case. But for the Dolphins, the problem
with them is they're way too pretty. They're way too pretty.
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They play a pretty style of football. They thrown it
all over the place. They've gotten pushed around in the
trenches for years, completely pushed around.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
See more edge, more toughness, even a little bit of stupidity.
Like you could make an argument that it's stupid to
get into a fight or do something after the whistle.
You're just costing your team. You could say all those things.
I don't think it applies all across the board to
every single team. A team like the Dolphins who's gotten
pushed around in the trenches that plays this pretty style
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of football, and if it's ninety degrees out and you're
at home, like they could look really really good. But
if it's a cold, nasty game, you're not able to
throw it around all the time. That the conditions aren't
made for it. It's like you gotta be able to
push people around you gotta be able to knock them
off the ball, run the ball down their throat, stop
the run. You gotta be tough, and the Dolphins just
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aren't tough enough. I would love for them to do
something like that and to show more edge. So I
totally disagree with blind Scott, and he gave a great argument.
There are a lot of people that will agree with
everything that he said. Tony Dungee would be one of
those people, and he had a lot of success. I
really respect him. Tony Dungee's one of the greats. But
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I don't think that everybody has to approach it the
same way. You don't have to be like, Okay, it
worked for Tony Dungee, I'm gonna do the same thing.
Or it worked for Belichick, he's not jumping into the
pile up. That doesn't mean Mike Vrabel doesn't need to
do that. I think that was one of the things
where it seemed like Gerard Mayo might have been on
the right track because he wasn't trying to be Belichick.
(29:42):
It didn't work out, But how many times have we
seen that we saw who was the Lions head coach
that was that Matt Patricia was a former defensive coordinator
and then what was he like the offensive flag caller.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
For a little bit with the Patriots. I couldn't believe that.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
One of my buddies said, I'm a Patriots fan. I'm sorry,
but I have to just side note. A couple of
years ago, I'm like, hey, who's gonna be your offensive coordinator?
And he said to me, I think it's gonna be
Matt Patricia.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Actual.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I was like, what what the defensive coordinator's calling?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
You can't be serious, And sure enough it was.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
But anyway, Matt Patricia when he was with the Lions,
he tried to be Belichick. He tried to check all
of his players, be this hard ass. He didn't have
the credentials. No one took him seriously. So I think
you can run into a lot of problems trying to
be just like Belichick. So I don't buy something, oh,
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this is different than what Belichick would do. In some
ways good because you're not him. Mike Vrabel is not Belichick.
And even though Belichick is not jumping into a pile up,
that's fine if Mike Vrabel wants to.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I think it works. I think it's This team gained.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
More respect for him for doing that than lost respect
for him doing that. And here's the thing, man, You
get these training camp fights, these joint joint practice skirmishes,
all this stuff. When do you really see that carry
over to the regular season.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I mean outside of the.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Raiders back in the day when they are literally getting
the fights all the time. But do you see this
commonly in this day and age. We're not talking way
back in the day when the rules are different, the
way the game is officiating is officiated is different.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
We're talking now.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
When do you see a team that gets into a
training camp fight, joint practice FI When do you see
that just be a common theme and plague them all
season long?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You don't. You don't see that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
So I don't look at that as, oh, this is
ridiculous as a silly approach by Verbel. I personally loved it,
and I think for it that just won four games
last season to build some toughness edge.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I think there's a lot of good that comes with that.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
And I just don't think the stupidity of maybe doing
something after the whistle is going to carry over to
the regular season and you're going to see the Patriots
be plagued by this, I just don't buy it. I
think it's easier to dial it back than crank it up.
I'll put it this way. Say you go to the gym,
I see like some sort of fat burner commercial on maybe.
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So say you go to the gym, you typically do
a hard workout for an hour, all right? Which is easier?
Is it the next day to do a harder workout
for an hour and a half, or is it easier
to do a thirty minute workout where you go hard.
It's easier to scale back, to dial it back than
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it is to crank it up. So for these teams
like the Patriots and Mike Rabel jumping into a.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
A skirmish right there.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
It's easier for a team that maybe goes over the
line in training camp to dial it back and not
do that in the regular season.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Then it is for a team.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
That doesn't show edge, doesn't show toughness in the in
training camp, and then I just got to crank it
up come the regular season. It's tougher to do that.
So I don't have an issue with it at all.
I don't I'm actually on board with it.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I like that Mike Vrabel jumped in there and was bloodied,
and I love that stuff. Man, I don't have an
issue with it at all. But hey, shout out to
blind Scott. I thought he made a great argument on
the complete opposite side, and.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I respect him for that. I love that. I love
a good debate.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I love someone that brings a great argument on the
complete opposite side. I embraced that completely and shout out
to him.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I thought I did a great job. I love that.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
All right.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
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You want to check, feel free to do so. We'll
get to eventually the biggest curveball of the NFL season.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
What is it gonna be?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
We got to compare notes on that. I have some
thoughts for you as far as that goes. Coming up
pretty soon. I'm Brian noo In for big Ben Maler.
Keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 1 (34:37):
Top of the Hour.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
We're looking for the biggest curveball in the NFL this season,
And think about it this way. The odds are going
to be long that any of these things happen, right.
That's why we're trying to find the biggest surprise of
the entire NFL season team wise, what team is gonna
shock us the most good or bad?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
And so a lot of the teams.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
On the list, you're gonna be like, that's pretty unlikely
that the Eagles are the biggest bad surprise, you know
what I mean. But you just want to open your
mind up. We'll do this at the top of the hour.
I just want to open your mind up to the
possibility that this happens, right, And so we'll compare notes
as far as that goes.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox is your phone
number if you want to check in, we'll get right
to you. Also on X at the no shows, where
you can find me if you want to tweet at me.
I just saw an interesting tweet where I don't know
if I can find it on time, but I think
it's Bill. Bill was like, why in the hell would
you use no noe for radio?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
You know it's no.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
kN ow, no no O. You know then my spelling Noe's.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Like too hard to find you. What are you doing?
Call it the Yes Show.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I thought that was a funny tweet, So I appreciate that.
Shout out to Bill, go out to Hollerin James. He's
with us this morning. What's going on?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Hollow In James?
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Howard James is called back so many times. He's upset too,
just like the Vikings, not upset, upset the NFL by
taking the championship game and the NFC conferdence.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
So wait a minute, hollow In James, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
You're calling your shot that the Vikings are going to
the Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
What's going on here?
Speaker 6 (36:28):
I'm making a I'm making a prediction, a strong prediction.
The Vikings are really gonna look strong with jaj McCarthy
and I would call Bud Graham out on this. Bud
Grant deserves this championship for the Minnesota Vikings. He was
one of the toughest coaches, that one of the most
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great cups in the Canadian Football League, but had a
hard time when he's a big game for uncertain reasons.
They know the right pushed off. I'm on a shot
the pushed off on an heir interference call of set
(37:10):
where they played the Miami Dolphins way back in the
day with Mandy Fernadds and I could date myself because
I'm sixty one years old and mean football ever since
I was a child.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
About you, Holler and James, that you can date yourself
as much as he won.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I love the old school football right there.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
You know, my favorite Bud Grant memory was when he
went out for the coin toss. You remember this, Holler
and James. They had the freezing cold outside game and
he went out for the coin toss in a short
sleeve shirt. That was amazing by Bud Grant right there.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I love him for that.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Bud Grant was one of the toughest Canadian football coaches
you ever seed a round and he should have beat
Hans Stramp. And it was one of the first great
Super Bowls they ever played in with the Kansas City
Cheachs when they were called the Chiefs or Kansas City
and Hank Stam the Minnesota Likes and they based off
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in Super Bowl What what super Bowl was that he recalled?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
It was Super Bowl four And I don't agree with you.
They were talking what twenty three to seven. You know,
if memory serves the twenty three seven, that's not exactly
a close game there, hollow In James.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
I know it wasn't a close game, and I know
you're gonna distribute with me, but don't you think the
Minnesota like you were upset because he got cheated out
of that game?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
That sounds like some That sounds like some vikings bias
right there, holler In James.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I like where the Chiefs getting the calls way back?
I thought it was just like everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Whinds about the Mahomes era and the calls it dates
all the way back to the Hank Stram days.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
They're getting all the favorable calls.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Yeah, favor little close because there's been that way ever
since the beginning, even in nineteen ninety eight for Garry
Anderson Thomas Garry Innerson in the field, Oh yeah, nineteen
ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Holler and James, Man, that was heartbreak city man.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I don't know, because he was perfect the whole year,
didn't miss a kick until that one terrible.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
Or the biggest kicking was like, and why did random
Kreby have take a knee? And I got that jersey
and I got him eighty four Randy wash jersey that
play with the New England Patriots after he played with
the Raiders. He went to the Raiders first after the
Minnesota like. He's drafted them number one. But he went
into the Hall of Fame as a Minnesota like. And
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now Jared Allen is sharing the same ring with Randy Wahson,
the same golden jacket.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
That's pretty cool. No, that's cool that it came full
circle like that.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
But man, you've had your heart broken many times over
the years, Holler and James, I feel for you the
Brett fav interception over the middle against the Saints. I
don't bring up bad memories, but you've had some heartbreak.
They've had some heartbreak over the years. Man, But I
always loved talking to you. Holler and thank you for
the call. Great stuff. I love that you've got passion, don't.
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I don't care, like you know, if Holler and James
was driving on the road, he was on the sidewalk
a little bit, you know, he was.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
He was on top of the guard rail first A.
We're just all over, we're in access. You know, I
don't care. He's got passion.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
We're talking Vikings, we're talking Bud Grant, we're talking Haigu Stram.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Let's get after it. You know, we just can't wait
for football season to get here.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Oh man, that's awesome, that is fantastic. Yeah, I want
to know the temperature.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
It was freezing. I don't know why they were outside.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
There's something going on with the stadium at the time,
but the Vikings were hosting the Seahawks outside playoff game,
freezing cold. Bud Grant goes out there for the coin
toss in a short sleeve like soft collared shirt.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Amazing. Biggest curveball the NFL season. Next
Oh, what is going on?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I hope you're early Friday morning festivities or grand hope
everything's going well.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I want to get to in a few minutes. It
was a very.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Popular opinion a few months ago, and it's turned out
to be completely wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
A lot of.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
People were saying this over and over and over. Popular
opinion has been completely wrong. I'll give you that just
a couple of minutes here, But I want to start off.
We got another sex toy on the court of a
WNBA game. Now, this is the fourth sex toy that
has reached the court of a WNBA game. Now, there
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are a couple of layers here. I didn't realize what
was going on. I'm like, wait a minute. So over
the last week and a half, there have been four
sex toys that have been thrown onto a WNBA court
during the game. Okay, what I didn't realize was all
of the sex toys that were thrown at WNBA games
(01:02):
that didn't reach the court. Because I'm looking at this
and I'm like, okay, I'm looking at all this information.
It's just all kinds of stuff. I'm not gonna bombard
you with all of these things, but a couple of
them are kind of interesting, as best I can tell,
And I tried to research this as best I can.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
It's it's tough.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It's like you ever see a beautiful mind where Russell
Crowe is kind of losing his mind and he's like, oh,
this connects to that and this means this, And that's
how I was trying to figure out the timeline of
the sex toys being thrown on WNBA courts. This is
the best I can tell. So I believe this started
(01:40):
back on July twenty ninth, so a little more than
a week ago. It was Tuesday to twenty ninth. It
was the Valkyries and the Dream. There was a man
that was arrested, Delbert Carver, twenty three years old, threw
a sex toy on the court. Now he was arrested
and charged with get this, those in all these charges
(02:02):
disorderly conduct, public in indecency, slash, indecent exposure, and criminal trespass.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Sounds like a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Like I'm no lawyer, I don't know, if you know
he's found guilty all across the board what that means.
But that's a lot of stuff to be charged with.
I know that much, and so I'm piecing this together. Okay,
it happened a couple of nights later, Friday, August first,
Valkyri's Chicago Sky Game.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
All right.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Then I'm like, wait a minute, something's weird with August fifth.
So this is Tuesday, August fifth, one week after the
first sex toy was thrown on the court. Okay, and
so I'm reading this story about an eighteen year old
who was arrested. He tried to throw a dildo on
the court. Didn't make it, you know, didn't reach the court.
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It hit like an uncle and the niece, like a
nine year old niece or something like at these two people.
It didn't make it onto the court. This guy was tackled,
you know, he was arrested, the whole thing. And he
said the eighteen year old, this guy named Caden Lopez,
he told officers. He was like, it's just a stupid
(03:16):
prank that I was that was trending on social media.
He apologized that I'm sorry, I was just following this
stupid prank. That's what it is, like, go back to
when you were eighteen. Now, I wasn't like dildo thrown
on the court stupid during a game.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
When I was eighteen, but it's pretty freaking stupid.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And if there was something that, oh, it's just the
new thing to do, I probably would have been like,
oh cool.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It's like there's plenty of things I've done at eighteen
years old that were completely dumb, and looking back.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Like, what the hell was I thinking? That's what's happening here?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But that happened at a Connecticut Son Phoenix Mercury game.
All right, wait a minute, didn't That same night there
was a sex toy that hit Sophie Cunningham of the
Indiana Fever, And.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I'm like, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
On that same night, August fifth, there was another sex
toy thrown at the Wings Liberty game, and that sex
toy didn't reach the court. So on the same night
there were three different games. I didn't realize any of this.
I'm piecing it together, like, wait, okay, we got the
section of this is the fourth sex toy that has
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reached the court, But there's another like sub section of
sex toys that are thrown at games that haven't reached
the court, but they were thrown nevertheless, Like I'm like,
oh my gosh, I didn't realize all all this stuff
is happening. But that's where we are. I don't know
what the official count is. There are at least four
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sex toys that have made it onto the court, which
is stupid and dangerous. It hits Sophie Cunningham. It could
have been way worse that the trend like the fun
is over. At least that's how I see it. Maybe
you look at the first one like oh wow that,
or it hits Sophie Cunningham and you're like, wow, that's
kind of a coincidence. She put it out there on
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X like stop doing this, and then she's the one
who gets hit by it. And to me, the fun
is over, if there ever was any fun, the fun
is officially over.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
This is dumb. It's played out. It's not even like
oh wow, Like.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The whole shock value of it is worn off, like
the betting aspect of you could bet.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
On the color of the next one to reach the court.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
To me, the whole thing is just like what are
we doing at this point? Like this thing is done?
Like this is the equivalent of well, I don't even know.
I don't want to make it the exact same thing,
but you know, when something gets played out where it
was cool for a month for someone to say, Oh,
he's all that and a bag of ship, and then
(06:01):
someone said it like months later that it was a
completely outdated No, we're not doing that anymore. Man's It's
like someone shows up to the party now and dabs
and you're like, Wow, dude, that's that way, or no, man,
that's not the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
That's where I'm at with this whole thing. It's wow.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It's time to turn the page on this one. But
does that not blow your mind? I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
On Tuesday, just a couple of nights ago, three different games,
sex toys are just being thrown around from the crowd
trying to make it onto the court. They might just
hit someone upside the head and not make it to
the court. By the way, I'll turn the page on
all this. I just had a flashback, so I'll tell
you a brief story. This has nothing to do with
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sex toys being thrown at games, but it reminded me
of one game I was at a famous game and
something else was thrown and it didn't quite make the field.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
But so what I would do?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So I'm from South Bend, Indiana and way back in
what was it five? I was part of the Notre
Dame pregame show. And what was awesome about that is
they would give you a pass. You could go up
to the press box and watch the game, and you
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could actually go down to the field for the final
five minutes of the game. Really cool, right, And I
went to the Bush Push game. There's USC at Notre Dame.
Famous game. And so this is gonna sound like first
world problems, but I actually hated being in the press
box because it's enclosed in glass. You can't feel the crowd.
(07:44):
It's a quote unquote working environment. You can't er, you
know what I mean. Like, I'm a lifelong Notre Dame fan.
Notre Dame scores a touchdown against number one ranked USC,
and I'm just supposed to sit on my hands.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And be like, oh, that was a good play.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Man.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I'm not built like, I can't do that. I can't.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So what I would do throughout that season, I would
just stand on top of the press box. You could
go up this flight of stairs and be up there
where the Eagles nest, you know, and have this bird's
eye view of the entire stadium. You can feel the crowd.
You could cheer if you wanted to. I'm like, this
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is the spot. So for that USC game, it was packed,
Like everybody's on top of the press box and you're not.
It's like there's a ledge in front of you. It's
you know, it's almost like kind of like a treehouse
or something, I don't know, something like that. So it's
not like we're just standing on a slab of metal
(08:45):
and we might topple over at any point. It's it's
kind of like enclosed, right, But it was packed. I
think they closed it down after that game. There were
way too many people up there. They're trying to film
the game, and all these people are up there from nowhere,
but I wedged my way in. I'm watching the game
on top of the breast box and I don't know why.
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There was a touchdown score Notre Dame scored a touchdown.
The crowd's going crazy, and for whatever reason, something just
caught my eye in the crowd. This one guy was
celebrating and he was sitting up pretty far, pretty up there,
you know, high up, and he took it had to
be like this super big gulp, this obnoxiously huge, either
(09:32):
thermous or like literally a big gulp, like this monstrous
sized soda, and to celebrate, he just threw it as
far as he could. He just heaved this thing and
I'm watching it just soar through the air, just majestically
soared toward the field, didn't quite make the field, and
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about the tenth rower or something. It just bam nails
this dude on the side of the head.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Man, what you got those people at games? Man, these people,
it's a good idea, you know, but sorry, the the
the dildo's being thrown at w NBA games and not
quite reaching the cord. I had a flashback with the
Bush push game. You know, you never know who's listening.
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It's the famous line with radio.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's so true.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I've had so many times throughout the years where something
peculiar happens, and this this person was listening.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Really another real cool story.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So I do a show on Sundays, it's called Countdown
and one of the guys on the show, it's it's
Jeff Schwartz, former NFL player, and it's Bill Krackenberger. He's
a professional sports handicapper and crack is here in Vegas
and it was a couple of weeks ago, he sent
a text to the group and he was like, hey,
I met Frank Caliendo.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I met him.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
We ate some pizza. You know, I was out, he
was out. We're like, hey, you want to hang out.
He's like, he listens to the show on Sunday. I
guess he's got this whole routine he I don't know.
He he does like some sort of physical therapy, or
he gets in a pool and early on a Sunday
morning and he listens to the show. It's like, oh
my gosh, that's awesome. Frank caley Endo is hilarious. I
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love that guy. You never know who's listening in radio.
I would not be shocked at all if either the
dude who threw the big gulp at the Bush Bush
game was listening or the dude who got knocked upside
the head was listening, Like, yeah, I was that guy.
I don't know what hit me. It was a big gulp. Really,
that's what That's the magic of radio, right there, no
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few months ago, and it's turned out to be completely wrong.
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Speaker 6 (13:38):
Though.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It was a very popular opinion just a few months ago,
and it's turned out to be completely wrong.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It's it's not over.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
With yet, We're still early in the game, but it's
trending toward people being dead wrong.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
So, when Shador Sanders was about to get drafted and
the first round came and went no Shadeur Sanders being drafted,
and then day two came and went no Chadur in
rounds two or three, and at that time it was
very popular to say, well, I mean, if you draft Shador.
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You gotta deal with Dion Sanders, right, what if Deon
Sanders shows up. Deon Sanders's gonna weigh in, He's gonna
have all these opinions about what the Browns should be.
They should be playing Shador. Why aren't they playing my son?
That's what a lot of people were saying. Has Deon
done any of those things? There was a story this
week where Deon Sanders was maybe gonna go check out
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training camp and Shadeur.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Was like, Pops, like, just.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Just don't bother. It's gonna be a circus, it's gonna
be a whole thing. Let's just let's not do that.
So Dian hasn't even been there. Has he said anything
about the Browns. Have you caught a clip? Do you
see anything on Sports Center where Dion is like, what's
up with my son not getting first team reps?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
What's up with that?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Has he had anything to say about his son the
Cleveland Browns? Whatsoever? Any stories out there?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That was such a ridiculous take at the time, and
it looks so much more stupid now, this idea that
it was just gonna be Dion Sanders meddling with his son.
The Cleveland Browns. And that's why these teams were smart
to just stay away from Shador. You just don't want
to deal with Dion Sanders. If any team made a
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decision based on that, they have no balls, I don't
know any other way to say it. I mean, you
have no spine whatsoever. You're like, Oh, Dion Sanders might
weigh in and share an opinion or two, and then
the heat is really gonna be turned up.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
If anyone thought like that, they are pathetic as an
NFL organization.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
This is the NFL.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Controversy is all over the place, Negativity is all over
the place, opinions are everywhere you turn. You should be
playing this guy. You should be running less of this
and more of that.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
That's how it goes. That comes with the territory. You
can't make.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
A decision based on something like that. And it never
even came to be this thought that, oh, Dion is
just gonna be a maniac with all these opinions that
he's going to be sharing. I haven't heard one. I
haven't seen an article, nothing, nothing. Dion shockingly focused on
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his job in Colorado. I just don't I never understood
that take at the time, then I understand it even
less now.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
But that's the thing. I'll say real fast and I'll
get to the militia. This is the other thing.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
A lot of people are saying a lot of stupid
things because they simply don't like Shaduur Sanders.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Now here's the thing. You don't have to like him.
I mean, if he rubs you the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Okay, he dances, he does the wristwatch thing, whatever, you
think that he's full of himself, a little too flashy
for your taste.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Okay, none of that stuff bothers me.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But if it rubs you the wrong way you don't
like him, fine, you don't have to like the guy.
But I would say to anyone who doesn't like him,
just be careful that you're dislike doesn't infiltrate your opinions,
because there are a lot of people that they just
flat out don't like shador.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Again, they don't have to.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
But you can't sound like a moron just because you
don't like the kid, you.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Know what I mean, And there are a lot of
people who do.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
There are a lot of people who sound like idiots
because they don't like the guy. And it's just something
to keep in mind. You know, there was a story
that Archie Manning, the you know, the gram father of
arch Manning. So Arch Manning's at Texas, he might be
the number one pick in next year's draft. And Archie
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Manning came out and he told the Texas Monthly he said,
arch isn't going to do that in terms of, you know,
leaving for the NFL Draft next year, He's not going
to do that. He'll be at Texas. And my reaction
first was, this is on the doorstep of the college
football season. Why the hell are we talking about the
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twenty twenty six NFL Draft. Shouldn't we be focused on
the twenty twenty five college football season. Texas is the
number one team and the Coaches Bowl, They've got a
legit shot to win a national championship.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And we're talking about the twenty sixth draft. Why are
we doing that?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
And my next thought was, can you imagine if all
things were equal, and this is what Shaudor Sanders was
either saying, or Dion Sanders was saying, or if Shador Sanders'
grandfather might have been saying that, Oh my gosh, do
you realize what people would be saying? They'd be like,
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oh my gosh, Shadore, can you focus on the upcoming season?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Why you're worried about the draft? Yahda YadA.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
There'd be so many people coming out of the woodwork
saying that with arch Manning is a shoulder shrug. It's
almost like a non story today. And that's my point.
Don't let your dislike infiltrate your opinions just because you
dislike Shador. When Shador was drafted, I got all these
tweets from all these people saying it made sense for
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him to be the one hundred and forty fourth pick,
and some of the reasons they're not even close to accurate.
One guy was like, hey, he's not tough. I'm like,
not tough? Did you watch him play? This offensive line
was awful. That dude took a beating and he was
for sure tough man. He took a lot of hits
and was still upright, didn't miss games. You cannot say
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Shador Sanders is not tough.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
And be accurate. That's an inaccurate statement. But that's my point.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
There are people that just don't like him, and it
turns into well, dish and well, he's not even tough.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
He's not even accurate. I mean, he doesn't do anything well.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's like, no, you just don't like the guy, and
you're saying a bunch of dumb things.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Just check yourself right again.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
You don't have to like him, but be careful of,
you know, avoiding saying stupid things based on not liking him.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That's all I would say. And then we get out
to the phones here, let's get to the militia. Love
hearing from.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Then my guy Kyle is in Boston talking some raiders.
Let's go, oh, Kyle's not there, good to know. Or
we've got blind Scott. Let's get blind Scott in here.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
What's going on? Blind Scott?
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Hey, what's up? Yeah? We were talking to radio earlier.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
Like I love radio so much, Like I think radio
is making a comeback now. They got to put more
radio people on radio. Though you can't put people who
haven't been on radio before on radio. It just doesn't
sound like correctly.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Like here's an opinion about radio.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
I have the greatest person in radio right now, I
think is Ryan Seacrest.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
I listen to his shows every day.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
He has a really good cadence, He does really good bits,
and he knows how much time to have in between
each segment, and his voice just sounds like it fits
right into every segment he does. I think if anybody
listens to his show that wants to work in radio,
they can get the perfect model for how you're supposed
to talk on radio. But I think you remind of
him kind of Brian. I think you could sit in
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that same format. He does all these dating bits like
in the La Market.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
I think they're like, really really good. He has people
call up.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
But I wanted to talk about Mike Brabel. This Mike
Brabel stuff in New England is amazing. Like you're supposed
to teach these players not to act up, not to
act like clowns. Mike Brabel's a great football, great guy,
a great football mind. He jumps into that pile with
no helmet on and gets cut in the face. I
guess you can see him after he's bleed, and these
all happys all fight up, the teams all behind them
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and stuff. It's totally fake. It's all staged for the media,
you know, But I don't know. As a coach, and
you're trying to teach these players not to act out
in games, to stay discipline, I don't know as a
coach how you can just go like that on a
field and jump in the pile and then just act
like a maniac.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
It's total It's total lunacy.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
You know what I'm saying, Brian. It doesn't fit into
the coaching standards of today. I grew up, I played
college sports. The coaches used to act like that.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Back then.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
They would do everything that you would use, every slur
in the book in the locker room. You know, nobody
really scrutinize you the coaches that much back then. That
is not a modern day coach right now. And he's
like walking a fine line of being like a social
media star in like a hardcore old school NFL coach.
But he's not Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick would have never
done that. That's what I want to point out. Bill
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Belichick would have never jumped in the pile like that.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
Like what is that? You know? You know?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Listen, blind Scott, I love you, and you do you
make a great argument, and I see it completely differently.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
But I love your argument.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, Like that's the best funniest thing about sports radio.
I love a good argument, and you made a great argument.
I see it totally differently. But that's the thing, Like
a lot of people think that I want them to
agree with me, don't. I don't rage against someone seeing
it differently. I rage against a bad argument. It might
be an argument on my side, you know, like we
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both think I don't know. Let's say that we both
think the Chiefs are gonna win the Super Bowl this season.
I don't know, And your reasoning is, oh, yeah, because
I don't know, just something stupid, like you know, they're
they're gonna throw you know, Mahomes is gonna throw twenty
five touchdowns on deep balls this season.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
That's It's like, that's.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
A horrible argument, even though we both think that the
Chiefs are gonna win the super Bowl. I completely disagree
with your reasoning. So it's all about the argument. To me,
it's not about which side you're on. But listen, blind
Scott made a great argument. I'll say real fast why
I don't agree with it. The reason I do not
agree with it is that you're trying to establish a culture,
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and you're trying. What Rabel's going for is a tough
a culture of toughness, and I think that serves an
NFL team very very well. I mean this idea that
what uh, that was just a social media thing.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's just for the media. That's that's not true.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You wouldn't have players come right out in full support
of this.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
This is your quarterback, Drake May.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Here's what he said about Vrabel getting into a skirmish
the other day at practice.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
That's what we're trying to build, I think. And it
starts with the coach. Starts with the head coach. The intensity,
bringing it every day, you know, taking no crap and
you know when we're out there on the field. But
also it comes to a time where our guys offensively
and get over there and get some tussles and kind
of have some penalties and extra after the whistle, you
can get us some trouble. But for mentality, I like it.
I think that's what you want. I mean, I almost
got in there, but I think maybe no, maybe.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
So I'm here to tell you that is not fake whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Rabel knows what he's doing getting in there and you know,
showing that type of toughness or at least willingness to
put your nose in there is Players love that stuff.
It's not like they all rolled their eyes in like oh,
that was clearly for the media. That was just for
social media clicks. That wasn't their reaction at all. This
was Mario Davis, the wide receiver. This is more funny
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than anything I say.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
You should have seen the other guy. I loved it,
But to me, I get the counter argument.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I do, and a guy that I really respect who
had a lot of success in the NFL, Tony Dungeee,
Tony Dungee would agree with what blind Scott said there
completely and Tony Dungee his approach was exactly what blind
Scott talked about in Colts training camp. No fights, we're
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not you know, we're not getting penalties here. We're not
doing in the regular season. We're not doing it in
training camp, we're not doing it in practice, preseason games.
There's no place for it here. And it served them well.
That was a good approach for them. I don't think
that applies to everybody. You can a lot of different
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ways to approach these things. And for the Patriots who
only won four games, who've been kicked.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Around for a long time now.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
It's been a long time since Brady and Belichick won
the last Super Bowl, and there have been some lean
years in between that year in these last handful of years,
so you're trying to establish a new culture, toughness, you know,
all of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And I also think this too. I think that.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's easier, say in the in preseason or training camp,
or this was a joint practice with the Washington Commanders. Okay,
I think it's easier if you step over the line. Right,
there's a skirmish there, there's a fight. You're not going
to do that in the regular season. It would be
a penalty. I think it's easier if you step over
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the line in training camp to dial it back when
the real games roll around. I think it's easier to
dial it back than it is to crank it up.
I actually I would rather have my team step over
the line from time to time. Maybe there's a fight
here that maybe there's a late hit, maybe there's a
coach that jumps into a dog pile, what have you.
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I think it's easier to dial it back than it
is to crank it up.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I'll say it this way. My Dolphins. I love the Dolphins,
but they're too pretty.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I would love it if Mike McDaniel jumped into a
pile that's never going to happen. I would love it.
I would love it if there was a fight in practice.
And some might hear this and look at it and
be like, what are you talking about. No, for this example,
it's case by case. But for the Dolphins, the problem
with them is they're way too pretty. They're way too pretty.
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They play a pretty style of football. They thrown it
all over the place. They've gotten pushed around in the
trenches for years, completely pushed around.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
See more edge, more toughness, even a little bit of stupidity.
Like you could make an argument that it's stupid to
get into a fight or do something after the whistle.
You're just costing your team. You could say all those things.
I don't think it applies all across the board to
every single team. A team like the Dolphins who's gotten
pushed around in the trenches that plays this pretty style
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of football, and if it's ninety degrees out and you're
at home, like they could look really really good. But
if it's a cold, nasty game, you're not able to
throw it around all the time. That the conditions aren't
made for it. It's like you gotta be able to
push people around you gotta be able to knock them
off the ball, run the ball down their throat, stop
the run. You gotta be tough, and the Dolphins just
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aren't tough enough. I would love for them to do
something like that and to show more edge. So I
totally disagree with blind Scott, and he gave a great argument.
There are a lot of people that will agree with
everything that he said. Tony Dungee would be one of
those people, and he had a lot of success. I
really respect him. Tony Dungee's one of the greats. But
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I don't think that everybody has to approach it the
same way. You don't have to be like, Okay, it
worked for Tony Dungee, I'm gonna do the same thing.
Or it worked for Belichick, he's not jumping into the
pile up. That doesn't mean Mike Vrabel doesn't need to
do that. I think that was one of the things
where it seemed like Gerard Mayo might have been on
the right track because he wasn't trying to be Belichick.
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It didn't work out, But how many times have we
seen that we saw who was the Lions head coach
that was that Matt Patricia was a former defensive coordinator
and then what was he like the offensive flag caller.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
For a little bit with the Patriots. I couldn't believe that.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
One of my buddies said, I'm a Patriots fan. I'm sorry,
but I have to just side note. A couple of
years ago, I'm like, hey, who's gonna be your offensive coordinator?
And he said to me, I think it's gonna be
Matt Patricia.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Actual.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I was like, what what the defensive coordinator's calling?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
You can't be serious, And sure enough it was.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
But anyway, Matt Patricia when he was with the Lions,
he tried to be Belichick. He tried to check all
of his players, be this hard ass. He didn't have
the credentials. No one took him seriously. So I think
you can run into a lot of problems trying to
be just like Belichick. So I don't buy something, oh,
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this is different than what Belichick would do. In some
ways good because you're not him. Mike Vrabel is not Belichick.
And even though Belichick is not jumping into a pile up,
that's fine if Mike Vrabel wants to.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I think it works. I think it's This team gained.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
More respect for him for doing that than lost respect
for him doing that. And here's the thing, man, You
get these training camp fights, these joint joint practice skirmishes,
all this stuff. When do you really see that carry
over to the regular season.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I mean outside of the.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Raiders back in the day when they are literally getting
the fights all the time. But do you see this
commonly in this day and age. We're not talking way
back in the day when the rules are different, the
way the game is officiating is officiated is different.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
We're talking now.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
When do you see a team that gets into a
training camp fight, joint practice FI When do you see
that just be a common theme and plague them all
season long?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
You don't. You don't see that.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
So I don't look at that as, oh, this is
ridiculous as a silly approach by Verbel. I personally loved it,
and I think for it that just won four games
last season to build some toughness edge.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I think there's a lot of good that comes with that.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
And I just don't think the stupidity of maybe doing
something after the whistle is going to carry over to
the regular season and you're going to see the Patriots
be plagued by this, I just don't buy it. I
think it's easier to dial it back than crank it up.
I'll put it this way. Say you go to the gym,
I see like some sort of fat burner commercial on maybe.
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So say you go to the gym, you typically do
a hard workout for an hour, all right? Which is easier?
Is it the next day to do a harder workout
for an hour and a half, or is it easier
to do a thirty minute workout where you go hard.
It's easier to scale back, to dial it back than
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it is to crank it up. So for these teams
like the Patriots and Mike Rabel jumping into a.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
A skirmish right there.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
It's easier for a team that maybe goes over the
line in training camp to dial it back and not
do that in the regular season.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Then it is for a team.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
That doesn't show edge, doesn't show toughness in the in
training camp, and then I just got to crank it
up come the regular season. It's tougher to do that.
So I don't have an issue with it at all.
I don't I'm actually on board with it.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I like that Mike Vrabel jumped in there and was bloodied,
and I love that stuff. Man, I don't have an
issue with it at all. But hey, shout out to
blind Scott. I thought he made a great argument on
the complete opposite side, and.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I respect him for that. I love that. I love
a good debate.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I love someone that brings a great argument on the
complete opposite side. I embraced that completely and shout out
to him.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I thought I did a great job. I love that.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
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What is it gonna be?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
We got to compare notes on that. I have some
thoughts for you as far as that goes. Coming up
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Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'm Brian no In for big Ben Maler here on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Top of the Hour.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
We're looking for the biggest curveball in the NFL this season,
And think about it this way. The odds are going
to be long that any of these things happen, right.
That's why we're trying to find the biggest surprise of
the entire NFL season team wise, what team is gonna
shock us the most good or bad?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
And so a lot of the teams.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
On the list, you're gonna be like, that's pretty unlikely
that the Eagles are the biggest bad surprise, you know
what I mean. But you just want to open your
mind up. We'll do this at the top of the hour.
I just want to open your mind up to the
possibility that this happens, right, And so we'll compare notes
as far as that goes.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox is your phone
number if you want to check in, we'll get right
to you. Also on X at the no shows, where
you can find me if you want to tweet at me.
I just saw an interesting tweet where I don't know
if I can find it on time, but I think
it's Bill. Bill was like, why in the hell would
you use no noe for radio?
Speaker 1 (35:47):
You know it's no.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
kN ow, no no O. You know then my spelling Noe's.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Like too hard to find you. What are you doing?
Call it the Yes Show.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I thought that was a funny tweet, So I appreciate that.
Shout out to Bill, go out to Hollerin James. He's
with us this morning. What's going on?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Hollow In James?
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Howard James is called back so many times. He's upset too,
just like the Vikings, not upset, upset the NFL by
taking the championship game and the NFC conferdence.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
So wait a minute, hollow In James, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
You're calling your shot that the Vikings are going to
the Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
What's going on here?
Speaker 6 (36:28):
I'm making a I'm making a prediction, a strong prediction.
The Vikings are really gonna look strong with jaj McCarthy
and I would call Bud Graham out on this. Bud
Grant deserves this championship for the Minnesota Vikings. He was
one of the toughest coaches, that one of the most
(36:49):
great cups in the Canadian Football League, but had a
hard time when he's a big game for uncertain reasons.
They know the right pushed off. I'm on a shot
the pushed off on an heir interference call of set
(37:10):
where they played the Miami Dolphins way back in the
day with Mandy Fernadds and I could date myself because
I'm sixty one years old and mean football ever since
I was a child.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
About you, Holler and James, that you can date yourself
as much as he won.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I love the old school football right there.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
You know, my favorite Bud Grant memory was when he
went out for the coin toss. You remember this, Holler
and James. They had the freezing cold outside game and
he went out for the coin toss in a short
sleeve shirt. That was amazing by Bud Grant right there.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I love him for that.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Bud Grant was one of the toughest Canadian football coaches
you ever seed a round and he should have beat
Hans Stramp. And it was one of the first great
Super Bowls they ever played in with the Kansas City
Cheachs when they were called the Chiefs or Kansas City
and Hank Stam the Minnesota Likes and they based off
(38:06):
in Super Bowl What what super Bowl was that he recalled?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
It was Super Bowl four And I don't agree with you.
They were talking what twenty three to seven. You know,
if memory serves the twenty three seven, that's not exactly
a close game there, hollow In James.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
I know it wasn't a close game, and I know
you're gonna distribute with me, but don't you think the
Minnesota like you were upset because he got cheated out
of that game?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
That sounds like some That sounds like some vikings bias
right there, holler In James.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I like where the Chiefs getting the calls way back?
I thought it was just like everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Whinds about the Mahomes era and the calls it dates
all the way back to the Hank Stram days.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
They're getting all the favorable calls.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Yeah, favor little close because there's been that way ever
since the beginning, even in nineteen ninety eight for Garry
Anderson Thomas Garry Innerson in the field, Oh yeah, nineteen
ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Holler and James, Man, that was heartbreak city man.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I don't know, because he was perfect the whole year,
didn't miss a kick until that one terrible.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
Or the biggest kicking was like, and why did random
Kreby have take a knee? And I got that jersey
and I got him eighty four Randy wash jersey that
play with the New England Patriots after he played with
the Raiders. He went to the Raiders first after the
Minnesota like. He's drafted them number one. But he went
into the Hall of Fame as a Minnesota like. And
(39:32):
now Jared Allen is sharing the same ring with Randy Wahson,
the same golden jacket.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
That's pretty cool. No, that's cool that it came full
circle like that.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
But man, you've had your heart broken many times over
the years, Holler and James, I feel for you the
Brett fav interception over the middle against the Saints. I
don't bring up bad memories, but you've had some heartbreak.
They've had some heartbreak over the years. Man, But I
always loved talking to you. Holler and thank you for
the call. Great stuff. I love that you've got passion, don't.
(40:02):
I don't care, like you know, if Holler and James
was driving on the road, he was on the sidewalk
a little bit, you know, he was.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
He was on top of the guard rail first A.
We're just all over, we're in access. You know, I
don't care. He's got passion.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
We're talking Vikings, we're talking Bud Grant, we're talking Haigu Stram.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Let's get after it. You know, we just can't wait
for football season to get here.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Oh man, that's awesome, that is fantastic. Yeah, I want
to know the temperature.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
It was freezing. I don't know why they were outside.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
There's something going on with the stadium at the time,
but the Vikings were hosting the Seahawks outside playoff game,
freezing cold. Bud Grant goes out there for the coin
toss in a short sleeve like soft collared shirt.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Amazing. Biggest curveball the NFL season. Next
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