June 17, 2025 • 39 mins
Brian Noe talks about how the OKC Thunder have completely changed the tone of the NBA Finals, Rory McIlroy's weak explanation for why he's been avoiding the media, cheesecake vs. pie, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh what is going on? I hope your early Tuesday
morning is going swimmingly. We'll get to the militia here momentarily.
First let me uh gabby yah by yaba at you
for a little bit. So, man, there was a popular
opinion shared just a couple of days ago, and it
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has aged very very poorly, very poorly. So if you
look at the NBA Finals heading into Game four, this
is on Friday night, heading in, the Pacers led two
to one, and there was a popular opinion shared going
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into that night that hey, if the Pacers win this game,
they're gonna win a title. You're not gonna see OKAC
win three straight game. No, no, you're not gonna have Now.
It's not just Stevid A. Smith, but he was one
of them. He was one of them saying this. This
was before Game four on Friday night. It's what Stephen
A had to say on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
The Oklahoma City Thunder on the bridge of getting of
losing the finals. If the Indiana Pacers win the night,
they are winning the championship.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It's just that simple, Okay. If the Pacers won Game four,
they'd have a three to one lead, championship bound right now,
you could look at this technically say didn't technically say Okay, see,
no way they win three straight. That's basically what he's saying.
He says it flat out right here on first take.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I think if the Indiana Pacers went tonight, there's no
way on earth that we're going to look at the
Oklahoma City Thunder and think that they can beat this
team three straight.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
No way on earth that OKC can beat the Pacers
in three straight. This is gonna throw Steven A under
the bus. I think Steve Knight does a great job,
but he was one of many saying these things. I
want to make it out like he was the only one.
He was one of many saying these things. And wow,
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look at what's happened. After two games. The Oklahoma City
Thunder are one win away from winning three straight games. Like,
how funny is that?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I realize, I realize there is a difference there is
if you're down two games to one and you win
three straight games, that's one thing compared to if you're
down three games to one and you win three straight games.
Right Like, you're facing elimination every game once you're down
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three to one, So it does differ. I don't want
to make it sound like there's no difference whatsoever. There
is a difference, but I mean, come on, it is
pretty freaking funny, is it not for everyone who's like,
no way, okay, see wins three three straight games, get
out of here, no chance. And now they might win
three straight games. That's pretty fun. If they do that,
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two of those wins would be on the road. You
could argue this. You could argue this, being down two
to one and winning two of the next three on
the road is pretty impressive, pretty comparable to being down
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three to one and winning two of the next three
at home. Right, There is an argument there. And okay, see,
if they do win three straight, they'll have one two
of three on the road. So it's just funny, man,
for anyone's like, oh, I mean, it's what was it like,
borderline impossible that okay, see wins three straight.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I think if the Indiana Pacers win tonight, there's no
way on Earth that we're going to look at the
Oklahoma City Thunder and think that they can beat this
team three straight.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
No way on Earth, no way. And they're on the
verge of winning three straight. I just think that's funny.
That's funny right there. It is funny. And I'll tell
you what, man, What else is funny to me is
OKC was such a monstrous favorite to win the finals.
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Before they started, they were I think it was at
the peak. I want to say around minus seven to
twenty five. I want to say it was around there,
meaning you would have to risk seven hundred and twenty
five dollars just to win one hundred dollars. That's how
big of a favorite OKC was. And you look at
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how this series is played out and the last two
games for the Pacers. I look at it and I'm like, man,
the amount of missed opportunities that this team has had.
Go back to Game four on Friday Night. They've got
a ten point lead in the fourth quarter. They're the
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team with all the momentum, the crowd is behind him.
OKC can't hit it three to save their lives. That game,
they ended up three for sixteen. They made three three pointers.
That's like some nineteen eighties type stuff. It's twenty twenty five.
They made three three pointers. That's it, Okay, see can't
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buy a three crowds into it. The Pacers are the
team in the first three games that had outscored OKC
by twenty seven points in the fourth quarter. They're plus
twenty seven in the fourth quarter. Indiana is the team
that's been freaking money. They're winning these crazy games. They're
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clutch in the fourth quarter, huge comebacks against the Bucks,
against the Knicks, against the Cavs, crazy stuff. And now
they've got a ten point lead and they can't close.
The deal just slipped away. And you had at the
end of that game Ben Matherin. My goodness, So game
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three was the Ben Matheren game quote unquote, bench player
scored twenty seven points, went crazy. I would argue Game
four was also the Ben Matherin game that nearly is good.
Didn't reach double digit points and at the end just
unfreaking raveled. He missed three free throws and then he
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committed two fouls before the ball was inbounded, which led
to two free points for ok See that's five points, right,
there's a five point swing with Matherin missing those free
throws and then committing silly files before the ball was inbounded.
Who knows what happens Vizza's free throws and doesn't commit
those files. It's a lot closer and Indiana might have
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won that game if you were betting the game. That
is a freaking brutal beat. Oh my gosh. I did
not full disclosure, have either team on the spread in
game four, But my gosh, if you were on the
Pacers plus six and a half and they lose by
seven and Matherren misses three free throws and commits two
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fouls before the ball is inbounded, leading to two points
for okay, see, Oh, that's as ugly as it gets.
That's just that's something you can't handicap for. You can't
account for something like that happening before the game. You're
breaking it down, You're like, okay, okay, see Indiana, bah
bah bah uh. You know, I think it's gonna come down.
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It's gonna be close. And then Matherin's just gonna unravel
three missed free throw, it's gonna commit a couple of
stupid files before the ball's inbounded, cost them five points.
So I'm gonna say, okay, see covers spread like some
of this stuff is just ridiculous. It really is. And
then you get to the missed opportunity. On Monday night,
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the latest game, the Pacers are down by eighteen points.
They cut the deficit to two points. Being the studs
that in the fourth quarter there is coming back. I
call him the zombies of the sports world. They just
keep coming at you. You think they're dead, They're not dead.
They're still very much alive. They cut it to a
two point deficit, and then they allow an eighteen to
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four run by OKC. And where I think the missed
opportunity occurred. Rick Carlile kept playing Tyrese Halliburton. He was
affected by this calf injury. He tweaked his calf in
the game. He didn't hit a shot from the floor
all night. He was zero for six from the field,
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h four from three point range. He didn't hit a shot.
He scored four points, all from the free throw line.
And he's still played minutes, healthy minutes in the fourth quarter.
You gotta play TJ McConnell in that instance, have to.
And if you look back at how awful Tyrese Haliburton's
Game five performance was, he's the first player in NBA
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Finals history to record the following zero field goals, zero steals,
zero blocks, three plus turnovers, three plus fouls, and thirty
plus minutes. He's the first player in NBA Finals history
to have a stat line that bad. And what makes
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it even worse is that not only did Carlisle stick
with Halliburton, who just didn't have it tonight, he was
clearly affected by this calf injury. He's stuck with Halliburton
and didn't go with DJ McConnell, who had eighteen points
in twenty two minutes. And he's forcing Okay's defense to
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collapse around him. He's breaking them down off the dribble,
he's scoring, he's dishing. It's leading to open shots, good looks,
and he's stuck with a guy who didn't hit a
shot from the field. That is a missed opportunity right there.
And I know you could sit here and be like, hey,
that's a second guess. Well, yeah, it's a second guess.
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I say this. I think this is the rule of
second guessing. You can agree or disagree, but I think
this makes a lot of sense to me. The rule
of second guessing is you need to be first guessing,
meaning you need to question what a coach is doing
before you have access to the results. Okay, so in
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that fourth quarter, when Halliburton is out there and TJ.
McConnell is not out there? Are you then saying why
is McConnell not out there? Why is there going with Halliburton?
You need to be saying that, in my opinion, to
then be second guessing, because it's easy after the fact,
once you know Halliburton has missed all of his shots,
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to be like, hey, you should have played McConnell. I
think you should be saying that in thinking that while
the fourth quarter is playing out. You understand what I'm saying.
I think you need to be first guessing to then
be able to be second guessing. Otherwise, like everyone's an
expert head coach. You know, every armchair head coach is,
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you know, the best head coach walking the earth. They
have access to the results and then can say what
you should have done. But I think it was so
in your face. You're obviously watching the game, like where
is McConnell, Why is Halliburton still out there? You're they're
talking about it, and it was a missed opportunity. I
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know it's the hard decision. I know it is. Halliburton
is your guy. He's made the show go. He's hit
some monstrous shots in these playoffs, He's led these huge
comebacks and all of that sort of thing. But he
just didn't have it on Monday night. And there's nothing
wrong with going with the player. And TJ McConnell, who
did have it eighteen points in twenty two minutes. Haliburton
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gave you four points in thirty plus minutes. It's night
and day. It's not even close staring at you in
the face. And although that's the tough decision, that was
the appropriate decision. And Carlisle missed it. He just flat
out missed it. And I've said it once, I'll say
it before it bears repeating. The popular phrase is you
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dance with who brung you, and Haliburton has certainly brought
the Pacers to this point. But I would argue you
shouldn't dance with someone who's too injured to dance. That's
where it changes the formula here. If Haliburton is full go,
he's not hampered by this calf injury. He's as close
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to one hundred percent as you can get at this
stage of the season. He's clearly not affected by any
injury at all. He's just having a rough night through
three quarters. I have no issue with you sticking with
that guy. He did bring you there? Dance with who
brung you? Fine, he's just been cold for three quarters. Okay,
but he's not affected by this half injury, that's one thing.
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But he was affected by a calf injury. That changes
the math. So all of a sudden, this hey, dance
with who brung You?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
No, no, Like Haliburton can't get out there and even
do a two step on the dance floor, dance with
somebody else. It's time to dance with somebody else at
that point, and Carlisle just refused to do it. Now,
I think that's a absolute missed opportunity for the Pacers. Also,
the turnovers twenty three turnovers leading to thirty two OKAC points,
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way way way too many turnovers, and Haliburton was one
of the guys guilty of that. You're right like that
key run eighteen to four run in the fourth quarter
for OKC OKASEE went from a two point lead with
eight thirty remaining to a sixteen point lead with five
minutes remaining. During that stretch, the Pacers had four consecutive turnovers.
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Halliburton had two of them them, Hard had the other two.
What if that's TJ McConnell. What if McConnell isn't turning
it over the two times that Halliburton did. What if
beyond not turning it over, what if those are buckets
for the Pacers All of a sudden, you're cooking with
grease and you've got a chance to win a game
on the road, and if you do, you're one win
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away from a title. There's an argument, not only should
you have played McConnell over Halliburton. If Halliburton's affected with
this calf injury, you gotta get him ready for Game six.
It's not just about Game five, it's about Game six
and the rest of the series. So I think it's
a double miss by Rick Carlyle. It's just a missed opportunity.
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You can't have that. Can't have that when you're an
enormous underdog heading into the finals. But it's been missed
opportunities the last two games for the Pacers, playing Halliburton
too much when he's affected by the calf injury, the
Ben Madden, they're in catastrophe at the end of Game four,
and all of the turnovers in both games just way,
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way too sloppy. I give okay, see a ton of credit.
They challenge every shot like you watch these games the Pacers.
They'll swing the ball and it looks like Nemhard might
have a three, and then Dort closes out on him,
and Nemhard's like, all right, I'll drive and kick and
he kicks to Sga and it leads to a fast break.
Like that's okase really forcing your hand. They do a
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magnificent job of that. But at the same time, the
Pacers way way, way too sloppy. They said an NBA
Finals record the most turnovers in the half in Game one.
It's a game they still came back to win. They've
been way too careless with the ball. You can't win
games on the road when you're just turning it over
at that rate. Like, good luck winning for a second time. Okay,
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they won Game one, dramatic comeback. Good luck winning the
second game on the road when you turn over twenty
three times. They it just wasn't even close as it
turned out. All right, feel free to check in. We'll
get to the militia here momentarily. I want to hear
from Blind Scott and beyond. Feel free to hit me
up on X if you would like. At the No
Show a couple of funny memes about the pole dancing
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days of e Dog. So that was entertaining. Appreciate that.
Shout out to Milkman Mike, who provided the video or
the gift there of Yeah, some like Chippindale's Saturday Night
Live thing going on there with Chris Farley. Good stuff,
all right? Coming up next, this athlete says exactly what
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a bad partner would say. Some details on the way
I'm probably knowing for Big Ben Malor could be locked
right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
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Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on
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Speaker 1 (17:02):
It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian though in for
Big Ben Mallor. Let's go out to the militia, shall we?
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Our?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Guy Blind Scott is with us here, Blind Scott, you're
on Fox Sports Radio. What's going on? Bud?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Brian?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah? Hey, that was a really good monologue. That was
some really good stuff. You ever played basketball before? A coach?
I'm thinking you might know the most. I'm on hold
like thirty five hours a week on the radio. I
think you might explain basketball the best. So like when
the Celtics got knocked out of the playoffs, I talked
to you and you were explaining the whole iso ball concept.
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And I think the Celtics would beat the pay Series
even if they played him right now or Oklahoma if
Van Gundy was still there and Missoula had had adjusted.
He was just so stubborn and Drew Holiday didn't show
it at all.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
You know.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
I gotta say a couple of things about God Smack
too and Tool on.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
There you go. First off, blind Scott, I appreciate the praise.
That's very nice of you. I appreciate that, man, But
what's on your Godsmack and Tool list? There? I'm curious
about this.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
We'll go smirks from around here. But nope. So the
Zoomer generation calls Divorced Dad Rock. So the thing about
Tool is like they would never get the credit they
deserve because the.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Lead because they Sugar Scott, because they shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That's suck, you know, they suck because the lead singer
to the jerks, the music just isn't that good, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Totally yeah, what what do he pass his way?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I like, Lord, here, On and Bonie Bear, and I
also like Olivia Rodrigo. I like Phoebe Bridgers. I like
some of the new music. Some I like electronic dance music.
I like, you know, I like stuff you would listen
to in the middle of the night, like when you.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Like do you like Duala Blak and Scott?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
I think she like Gosh. I like her, Yeah, I
mean I'm into her. Yeah. Actually I'm a big fan.
I like it, you know, I like it how she
worked out. Yeah, she worked out a lot of the gym,
so I followed that right.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You know, she's a very tall woman. She's an incredibly
tall woman as it turned out. Last guy. Yeah, I
like tall.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
I like tall women that are like six foot four
one ninety like triple d ize thirty eight eight inch waits.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You know, it's very descriptive right here, blind Scott, Yeah
it was. You rattled that off, you know, like, uh,
legitimately on the checklist there, I miss I.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Missed been a little bit, but I think you're I
think you like I hear Ben so much. It's great
to have a break, But I would you know this
rafeel devast thing.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
It's so big.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
It's such big news in Boston, like it's it's taken
on the whole scene. Like I hadn't talked to my
father in six years, and he called the show after
this man and me and him had it out on
the radio and like the Toucher and Hardy show, and
that was something that was something else, So like that
might happen to get today. So looking forward to that,
my mom's like, I just hope that he doesn't blame
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me because you know whatever, Like I don't have to
go with the family drama or whatever. But you know me,
I was with my parents like five years ago and
they didn't mind. But they're like retired, but I stay
up on nine dude sports radio calls and yell and
scream and stuff, and me and my dad got into
like a fight. So I hadn't talked to him since.
So I just prefer to live on my own now.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
You know, well, I'm court blind, Scott. I'll tell you
a Toucher. He was a nice dude. Like I used
to write for this website and I did an interview
with Toucher. He was cool with me, and he's a
he's a punk rock guy. He's got punk rock roots
over there.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Touch So yeah, I know all about that. Yeah, he
was a DJ at Atlanta at on ninety nine next
in Alantic, So he's gonna hear you talk. If you
talk towards the end of hour four, he's going to
be listening. I didn't realize you knew him, Brian. I
know him so well, like me and him are like
unbelievably close. I've known him for a long time. I
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didn't know you knew him. I would. I would have
mentioned it, you know what I mean. He's really respectful
for people in radio. He would have you on now,
like if you email him, you know what I mean.
He's going on vacation for the rest of week. I
didn't know that. I would have emailed him. I'm just
as close to him as I am with Ben, even close,
even closer.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, Blind Scott, you know, would be my agent over
give me some reps, you know, give me on there
at the hub. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (21:28):
I email? I emailed Fred like fifty times a day
for the past ten years. Like he almost would get
a restraining order if you didn't.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I'll tell you Blind Scott before you go. Since you
like my descriptions, I appreciate that I'm going to give
you a description of the band Tool, and you tell
me if this is on point. Oh god, okay, all
right now Coop is waiting on the edge of his
seat with anticipation. Here here's the description of Tool. Tool
is a band where they'll play something cool to have,
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like a cool guitar, par our, cool riff, and just
when they get going, they're like, oh, let's do something
boring for the next three minutes, and then we'll go
back to the cool stuff we were doing.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
All right, cooler, Yeah, there there jerk. So I'm forty two,
so that's the music I grew up. So people we
said you're a tool if you listen to Tool. When
I was in high schooled to rough those people up
in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
At gym, you know there you go, you shove them
into a locker and say, listen to it.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yeah, it wasn't cool to listen to Tool when I
was in high school, trust me, Like, you were not cool.
You weren't. You weren't like hanging with nobody like that.
You weren't. You were hanging by yourself a combat blutan,
you know.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Uh huh, yeah, I hear you. All right, Well, Hey,
we appreciate you checking in Blind Scott. Good stuff. Man,
we're talking music, sports, you know, uh, local radio hosts.
We covered a lot of ground. We clearly set it
in stone. That tool is terrible, right man. This is
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a segment that will probably not be appearing on the
podcast due to Coop you know, posting thing that stuff
right there. Stuff. Yeah right, he's like delete cutting room
floor right there. Now, this is something that has definitely
caught my attention. Is Rory McElroy. Okay, so our guy, Rory,
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he is taking a weenie route, is what I would say.
He is dodging the media, which I think is just weak.
So this goes back to what we just saw at
the US Open, and also if you go backwards to
last month's PGA Championship. So here's the backstory. And this
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isn't just a Rory McElroy thing. Maybe you don't care
about Rory, maybe you don't care about golf. That's fine,
But this to me is way bigger than that. This
is athletes speaking to the media, right, Like, do you
think that they should speak to the media. Now, the
PGA Tour does not require their golfers to speak to
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the media, so you might remember this. It was a
couple of months ago where what was it, Colin Morikawa.
He came out and said, I don't think I need
to speak to you guys, and at that point Rory
McElroy backed him up and said he's right. And so Rory,
he's dodged the media. He dodged the media for six
straight rounds in majors. He didn't speak to the media
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all throughout the PGA Championships. That was four straight days
no talking to the media, and he skipped out on
the media on the first two days of the US
Open this past weekend, right, So he didn't talk to
him Thursday, didn't talk to him Friday. He graced the
media with his presence and his words as only Lord
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Rory McElroy can do. So he was asked about this
on Saturday one of the media members. He said, yeah,
you haven't met with the media after the last six
major rounds. Here, is it because you're frustrated on the
golf course, right, Like Rory has not been playing well,
and so the media guy was like, is it because
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of the way you're playing. Here's what Rory said.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
No, not really, it's more of frustration with you guys.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Okay, So he's ticked off at the media, frustrated with
the media. So either the same or a different media member,
I'm not quite sure. The follow up question was in
what way, in what way are you ticked off at us?
Here's what Rory said.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I'm just.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I have been totally
available for the last few years, and I'm not saying
maybe not you guys, but maybe more just the.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
The whole, the whole thing. Hmm. Okay, so the whole thing,
the whole you know, answering questions, talking, promoting the game
of golf. You know, Jesus over it. It's basically what
he just said. That's kind of over it. Maybe it's
not you. Maybe another think that I don't hate you directly,
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maybe just this whole thing. Maybe that's okay. So there's
another question. Is this about the driver controversy? So the
driver controversy very shortly, this goes back to the PGA
Championship last month. He had a club that failed testing
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and was removed from his bag. So maybe he didn't
like the coverage of that. He didn't like what was
said or written about that. So that's what is it.
Something about the driver controversy. Here's what Rory said, Yeah, part.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Of Yeah, I mean that was that was a part
of it. Yeah, that was that was that was a
part of it. But it's not as if Flake at Augusta,
I skipt you guys on Thursday. So yeah, again, it's
not as if it's not out of the ordinary. I've
done it before.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Okay, all right, now this is the part let's take
a time out for a second. This is exactly what
a bad partner would say, right. He said it a
couple of times. He's like, I've been around pretty much
all the time the last two years, all the time,
whenever you want to talk, I talk to you guys.
And then he just said it right there, He's like,
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I didn't skip out on Thursday at Augusta. It's like
if your partner says to you, my girlfriend says to me, like, hey,
you haven't taken the trash out for six straight weeks.
What's up with that? A bad partner would say, well,
what about seven weeks ago? Huh who took the trash out?
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Then that's right, it was me. I was taking the
trash out seven weeks ago. It's like we're talking about
the last six weeks though, where you didn't do anything.
That's what we're talking about here. But Rory is like, well,
what about Augusta on Thursday? Yeah, I know I didn't
talk to you guys all throughout the PGA Championship, didn't
talk to you one time. I know I skipped out
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on you the first two days here at the US Open.
But I'm talking to you now, am I not like that?
That's what a bad partner in a relationship says. They
don't admit anything they've done wrong, and they just shift
the focus to an area that they did do well
in and don't address their faults at all. That's what
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a bad partner says. And that's exactly what Rory McElroy
just said. Now, there was another follow up question. The
reporter's like, hey, after really, and this is true, Rory
McElroy has really been front and center promoting the PGA Tour,
standing up for the PGA Tour, largely done a great job.
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And the reporter was just like, are you kind of
just tired of that? Are you tired of doing that?
And that's why you want to dodge these questions? Do
you feel like you've earned the right to dodge these questions.
Here's what Rory said. I feel like I've earned the
right to do whatever I want to do. There it
is there. That's the money quote right there, that explains
everything right there. Yes, I feel like I can do
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whatever that he's going Denzel in training day, I'm the
man of business piece is basically what Rory is saying.
And this is where it becomes weak and lame, like
whatever the reasons are and whatever the backstory is why
Rory is bent or doesn't want to deal with the
media or the end result is weak. Dodging questions is weak.
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The truth is like, meeting with the media and answering
questions is good for the sport. It promotes the game,
It helps build drama for the next event or the
current event. Why do you think the media talks to players?
Why do you think players interviews and sound bites are
aired all the freaking time on radio on TV because
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athletes from time to time say some interesting things and
it helps spruce up that current event or the next event.
So dodging those sessions might be great for Rory, but
it isn't great for the sport. That's the truth, And
you can try to argue against that and poke holes
in it and say, oh, but Brian, does it really
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build drama? Is it really necessary? Blah blah blah. It's like, yeah,
athletes at times say some colorful things. They might call
out an opponent. They might say something like Rory has
said some very candid things about live golf, and you're like,
oh man, I can't wait to see what happens in
this next major based on what Rory just said. It
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is back and forth with Bryson Shambo. Some of that
has really spruced up some of these matchups like oh man,
they're gonna be in the final pair together, like wow,
and here's the whole backstory. It helps promote the game
and it helps build drama. Some of my favorite drama
building moments like this is before the Super Bowl. I'll
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never forget Shannon Sharp and Rab Buchanon. So Shannon Sharp
then at the Broncos, Ray Bucnon then of the Falcons'
is a portion of some of their back and forth
before the game. Here's Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I've never called anybody ugly. Do I think people ugly?
I think he lugged me, but I never fit that
he just did He started it.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That's gold right there by the way, late nineties audio
left a lot to be desired. Right in the background,
it sounds like there's a monsoon in the background. It's
just horrid nineties audio, but still great. Nevertheless, this is
Ray Buchanon and some of the critical things he said
about Shannon Sharp again top notch stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
He might have a body though, everybody laying hisybody to
be like ooh Shannon, But I'm telling you what, man,
you got a grill like that?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Man, I mean total reconstruction. Okay, now this is the
best one. This is Shannon Sharp again, colorful sound bites.
You're telling me you weren't more interested to watch Super
Bowl thirty three with the war of words between these guys.
Come on, this is why they do it. This is
why you interview athletes. This is Shannon Sharp again. To
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drop the mike moment talking about Raebu Cannon.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I'm not gonna get into a p in content with
you lose every time, but I will say this all
Suddenly he get an opportunity tobacco.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
What he's saying. If he my friend? No?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Did I ever view him as a friend?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Did I have view him other than acquaintance. No, do
I like him?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
If I see him in a snowstorm, his trucket broke down,
mine is going perfectly.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Would I pick him up? No?
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Rather than that.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Other than that, I could care left about raeby Cannon.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
That's tremendous and he said it within there. It's like
he's got to check, has to back up his words
on Sunday. You're telling me you've never heard a SoundBite
from an athlete and been more interested to watch the
next event. That's a flat out lie if that's what
you say, Like, that's why these leagues and the PGA
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two are, That's why they want their athletes to meet
with the media and say things because it helps promote
the sport and build drama for the next event or
the current event. That's something Rory just doesn't want to do.
And listen, I might feel the same way, but you
can't lose sight of the big picture. I can understand
an athlete having some ill will toward the media. Maybe
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someone wrote something crazy or said something crazy, and you
just don't want to do it. Rory had he filed
for divorce, and then he was able to reconcile with
his wife, Erica, and there are a lot of people
that said a lot of things and wrote a lot
of things that Rory might not have liked. I might
feel the same exact way if I was in the
same position, But I would look at it and say,
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even though this is good for me, I don't want
to deal with the media. It's bigger than that. It's
bigger than just some personal beef or bad blood. It's
about bringing more attention to the sport of golf. That's
the why why you even do these interviews in the
first place. And Rory's forgotten that. He's completely forgotten that,
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and that's too bad. And I'll be honest with you.
If they had some sort of like post radio show
press conference, I wouldn't want to do it. I'd probably
want to skip it. But if it helped bring in
more listeners and it helped build the ratings, it'd be
a necessary evil. I would do it, even though I
(34:47):
didn't want to. If after the show it was just
like a postgame press conference, right like Rory finishes around
at the US Open and he's meeting with the media,
they might be like, hey man, why were you terrible
on the eleventh or whatever? If someone was like, you know,
it's a press conference, and they're like, all right, Brian
filling in for big Ben Maller, here your second segment,
(35:08):
Like wow, what went wrong? And I have to answer
those questions like, well, you know, honestly, I thought it
was a good topic. Maybe I had a weird example
or as a little wordy getting to the point, but
you know, I'm just talking it up to a learning experience, right.
If I had to do that after every show, yeah,
I'd probably dread it. But again, if it helped the
(35:32):
overall network, it helped the ratings, it built excitement from
time to time for the next show, you gotta do it.
It's bigger than just you. It's about who you're working for.
And Rory McElroy is working for the PGA Tour and
has just forgotten that the PGA Tour matters here in
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this equation. He's forgotten that it's all about him. It's me, me, me,
me me. That's what Rory McElroy is doing. And it's weak,
it's lame, not a fan of it, and his reasons
are even worse than that. This is all you need
to know. I feel like I've earned the right to
do whatever I want to do. Yeah, yeah, that's uh,
that's telling right there, all right. Coming up next, we
(36:18):
bust out the Power ratings and I'll tell you what
these rankings they produced A curveball I didn't see coming
from one Justin Cooper has nothing to do with sports,
but I think you'll find it entertaining. We'll get to that.
Coming up. It is the Big Ben Malor Show. I'm
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It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian knowing for Big
Ben Maler. Man, I'll tell you one of the one
of the biggest missed opportunities in radio history. Right there,
I was doing what band is? This is this? Lorena?
I'm sorry?
Speaker 7 (37:05):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (37:06):
It's the Google Dolls, That's who it is.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
I forgot what that is.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
So I was doing my Goo Goo Dolls impression and
the mic wasn't hot yet. Man, So was that not
on point?
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Or what I was?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
So perfect? Should never do it again? Okay? So one
of the things I love about filling in for Big
Ben Meller working with Coop and working with the Lorena
and the random stuff that we talk about off the air,
and they were running to the with like the break
(37:40):
room on a scavenger hunt for pie, right, And so
of course that leads to a full blown discussion, and
I said, we might have to reveal our pie slash
cheesecake power rankings, you know, your top three flavors. And
I asked Coop, I was like, are you cool with
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a pie slash cheesecake combination? There? Is it? Absolutely not,
no way. They're basically polar opposites. You cannot have a
hybrid of pie and cheesecake flavors. Is that not true?
They're Coop, I don't think that's what I said, as
I really am I embellishing or what did you say?
Speaker 7 (38:21):
I just said that pie clears cheesecake, okay, made so
much better than cheesecake.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That's the main curve ball, right, I mean I suppose
you could. Cheesecake is so good, that's so delicious, so good. Yeah,
I didn't say that, it's not. I like chocolate cheesecake.
I like cherry cheesecake. I like strawberry cheesecake. I like
New York cheesecake. I like the kind because there's different textures.
You know what I'm saying. No, yeah, there's different textures
of cheesecake. Not really, Why is it vastly superior in
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your opinion?
Speaker 7 (38:55):
Coop Lots of reasons you can. You can eat more
of it without feeling terrible. Uh, there's just a wider
variety of.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
No, I'm not. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
Maybe now I guess I get as I get older,
maybe I can't tolerate it as well as I used to.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
But all right, so you can eat more. What else?
The variety flavor? We got a lot of flavors of cheesecake, yes, but.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
They're all like a cream like a cheese base like
pie has variety. You can have like apple like and caramel,
or you can have like key lime, tartcker crust though
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Crust
Oh what is going on? I hope your early Tuesday
morning is going swimmingly. We'll get to the militia here momentarily.
First let me uh gabby yah by yaba at you
for a little bit. So, man, there was a popular
opinion shared just a couple of days ago, and it
(00:23):
has aged very very poorly, very poorly. So if you
look at the NBA Finals heading into Game four, this
is on Friday night, heading in, the Pacers led two
to one, and there was a popular opinion shared going
(00:43):
into that night that hey, if the Pacers win this game,
they're gonna win a title. You're not gonna see OKAC
win three straight game. No, no, you're not gonna have Now.
It's not just Stevid A. Smith, but he was one
of them. He was one of them saying this. This
was before Game four on Friday night. It's what Stephen
A had to say on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
The Oklahoma City Thunder on the bridge of getting of
losing the finals. If the Indiana Pacers win the night,
they are winning the championship.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It's just that simple, Okay. If the Pacers won Game four,
they'd have a three to one lead, championship bound right now,
you could look at this technically say didn't technically say Okay, see,
no way they win three straight. That's basically what he's saying.
He says it flat out right here on first take.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I think if the Indiana Pacers went tonight, there's no
way on earth that we're going to look at the
Oklahoma City Thunder and think that they can beat this
team three straight.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
No way on earth that OKC can beat the Pacers
in three straight. This is gonna throw Steven A under
the bus. I think Steve Knight does a great job,
but he was one of many saying these things. I
want to make it out like he was the only one.
He was one of many saying these things. And wow,
(02:01):
look at what's happened. After two games. The Oklahoma City
Thunder are one win away from winning three straight games. Like,
how funny is that?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I realize, I realize there is a difference there is
if you're down two games to one and you win
three straight games, that's one thing compared to if you're
down three games to one and you win three straight games.
Right Like, you're facing elimination every game once you're down
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three to one, So it does differ. I don't want
to make it sound like there's no difference whatsoever. There
is a difference, but I mean, come on, it is
pretty freaking funny, is it not for everyone who's like,
no way, okay, see wins three three straight games, get
out of here, no chance. And now they might win
three straight games. That's pretty fun. If they do that,
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two of those wins would be on the road. You
could argue this. You could argue this, being down two
to one and winning two of the next three on
the road is pretty impressive, pretty comparable to being down
(03:23):
three to one and winning two of the next three
at home. Right, There is an argument there. And okay, see,
if they do win three straight, they'll have one two
of three on the road. So it's just funny, man,
for anyone's like, oh, I mean, it's what was it like,
borderline impossible that okay, see wins three straight.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I think if the Indiana Pacers win tonight, there's no
way on Earth that we're going to look at the
Oklahoma City Thunder and think that they can beat this
team three straight.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
No way on Earth, no way. And they're on the
verge of winning three straight. I just think that's funny.
That's funny right there. It is funny. And I'll tell
you what, man, What else is funny to me is
OKC was such a monstrous favorite to win the finals.
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Before they started, they were I think it was at
the peak. I want to say around minus seven to
twenty five. I want to say it was around there,
meaning you would have to risk seven hundred and twenty
five dollars just to win one hundred dollars. That's how
big of a favorite OKC was. And you look at
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how this series is played out and the last two
games for the Pacers. I look at it and I'm like, man,
the amount of missed opportunities that this team has had.
Go back to Game four on Friday Night. They've got
a ten point lead in the fourth quarter. They're the
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team with all the momentum, the crowd is behind him.
OKC can't hit it three to save their lives. That game,
they ended up three for sixteen. They made three three pointers.
That's like some nineteen eighties type stuff. It's twenty twenty five.
They made three three pointers. That's it, Okay, see can't
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buy a three crowds into it. The Pacers are the
team in the first three games that had outscored OKC
by twenty seven points in the fourth quarter. They're plus
twenty seven in the fourth quarter. Indiana is the team
that's been freaking money. They're winning these crazy games. They're
(05:37):
clutch in the fourth quarter, huge comebacks against the Bucks,
against the Knicks, against the Cavs, crazy stuff. And now
they've got a ten point lead and they can't close.
The deal just slipped away. And you had at the
end of that game Ben Matherin. My goodness, So game
(06:00):
three was the Ben Matheren game quote unquote, bench player
scored twenty seven points, went crazy. I would argue Game
four was also the Ben Matherin game that nearly is good.
Didn't reach double digit points and at the end just
unfreaking raveled. He missed three free throws and then he
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committed two fouls before the ball was inbounded, which led
to two free points for ok See that's five points, right,
there's a five point swing with Matherin missing those free
throws and then committing silly files before the ball was inbounded.
Who knows what happens Vizza's free throws and doesn't commit
those files. It's a lot closer and Indiana might have
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won that game if you were betting the game. That
is a freaking brutal beat. Oh my gosh. I did
not full disclosure, have either team on the spread in
game four, But my gosh, if you were on the
Pacers plus six and a half and they lose by
seven and Matherren misses three free throws and commits two
(07:09):
fouls before the ball is inbounded, leading to two points
for okay, see, Oh, that's as ugly as it gets.
That's just that's something you can't handicap for. You can't
account for something like that happening before the game. You're
breaking it down, You're like, okay, okay, see Indiana, bah
bah bah uh. You know, I think it's gonna come down.
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It's gonna be close. And then Matherin's just gonna unravel
three missed free throw, it's gonna commit a couple of
stupid files before the ball's inbounded, cost them five points.
So I'm gonna say, okay, see covers spread like some
of this stuff is just ridiculous. It really is. And
then you get to the missed opportunity. On Monday night,
(07:50):
the latest game, the Pacers are down by eighteen points.
They cut the deficit to two points. Being the studs
that in the fourth quarter there is coming back. I
call him the zombies of the sports world. They just
keep coming at you. You think they're dead, They're not dead.
They're still very much alive. They cut it to a
two point deficit, and then they allow an eighteen to
(08:15):
four run by OKC. And where I think the missed
opportunity occurred. Rick Carlile kept playing Tyrese Halliburton. He was
affected by this calf injury. He tweaked his calf in
the game. He didn't hit a shot from the floor
all night. He was zero for six from the field,
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h four from three point range. He didn't hit a shot.
He scored four points, all from the free throw line.
And he's still played minutes, healthy minutes in the fourth quarter.
You gotta play TJ McConnell in that instance, have to.
And if you look back at how awful Tyrese Haliburton's
Game five performance was, he's the first player in NBA
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Finals history to record the following zero field goals, zero steals,
zero blocks, three plus turnovers, three plus fouls, and thirty
plus minutes. He's the first player in NBA Finals history
to have a stat line that bad. And what makes
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it even worse is that not only did Carlisle stick
with Halliburton, who just didn't have it tonight, he was
clearly affected by this calf injury. He's stuck with Halliburton
and didn't go with DJ McConnell, who had eighteen points
in twenty two minutes. And he's forcing Okay's defense to
(09:44):
collapse around him. He's breaking them down off the dribble,
he's scoring, he's dishing. It's leading to open shots, good looks,
and he's stuck with a guy who didn't hit a
shot from the field. That is a missed opportunity right there.
And I know you could sit here and be like, hey,
that's a second guess. Well, yeah, it's a second guess.
(10:06):
I say this. I think this is the rule of
second guessing. You can agree or disagree, but I think
this makes a lot of sense to me. The rule
of second guessing is you need to be first guessing,
meaning you need to question what a coach is doing
before you have access to the results. Okay, so in
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that fourth quarter, when Halliburton is out there and TJ.
McConnell is not out there? Are you then saying why
is McConnell not out there? Why is there going with Halliburton?
You need to be saying that, in my opinion, to
then be second guessing, because it's easy after the fact,
once you know Halliburton has missed all of his shots,
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to be like, hey, you should have played McConnell. I
think you should be saying that in thinking that while
the fourth quarter is playing out. You understand what I'm saying.
I think you need to be first guessing to then
be able to be second guessing. Otherwise, like everyone's an
expert head coach. You know, every armchair head coach is,
(11:09):
you know, the best head coach walking the earth. They
have access to the results and then can say what
you should have done. But I think it was so
in your face. You're obviously watching the game, like where
is McConnell, Why is Halliburton still out there? You're they're
talking about it, and it was a missed opportunity. I
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know it's the hard decision. I know it is. Halliburton
is your guy. He's made the show go. He's hit
some monstrous shots in these playoffs, He's led these huge
comebacks and all of that sort of thing. But he
just didn't have it on Monday night. And there's nothing
wrong with going with the player. And TJ McConnell, who
did have it eighteen points in twenty two minutes. Haliburton
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gave you four points in thirty plus minutes. It's night
and day. It's not even close staring at you in
the face. And although that's the tough decision, that was
the appropriate decision. And Carlisle missed it. He just flat
out missed it. And I've said it once, I'll say
it before it bears repeating. The popular phrase is you
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dance with who brung you, and Haliburton has certainly brought
the Pacers to this point. But I would argue you
shouldn't dance with someone who's too injured to dance. That's
where it changes the formula here. If Haliburton is full go,
he's not hampered by this calf injury. He's as close
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to one hundred percent as you can get at this
stage of the season. He's clearly not affected by any
injury at all. He's just having a rough night through
three quarters. I have no issue with you sticking with
that guy. He did bring you there? Dance with who
brung you? Fine, he's just been cold for three quarters. Okay,
but he's not affected by this half injury, that's one thing.
(13:02):
But he was affected by a calf injury. That changes
the math. So all of a sudden, this hey, dance
with who brung You?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
No, no, Like Haliburton can't get out there and even
do a two step on the dance floor, dance with
somebody else. It's time to dance with somebody else at
that point, and Carlisle just refused to do it. Now,
I think that's a absolute missed opportunity for the Pacers. Also,
the turnovers twenty three turnovers leading to thirty two OKAC points,
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way way way too many turnovers, and Haliburton was one
of the guys guilty of that. You're right like that
key run eighteen to four run in the fourth quarter
for OKC OKASEE went from a two point lead with
eight thirty remaining to a sixteen point lead with five
minutes remaining. During that stretch, the Pacers had four consecutive turnovers.
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Halliburton had two of them them, Hard had the other two.
What if that's TJ McConnell. What if McConnell isn't turning
it over the two times that Halliburton did. What if
beyond not turning it over, what if those are buckets
for the Pacers All of a sudden, you're cooking with
grease and you've got a chance to win a game
on the road, and if you do, you're one win
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away from a title. There's an argument, not only should
you have played McConnell over Halliburton. If Halliburton's affected with
this calf injury, you gotta get him ready for Game six.
It's not just about Game five, it's about Game six
and the rest of the series. So I think it's
a double miss by Rick Carlyle. It's just a missed opportunity.
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You can't have that. Can't have that when you're an
enormous underdog heading into the finals. But it's been missed
opportunities the last two games for the Pacers, playing Halliburton
too much when he's affected by the calf injury, the
Ben Madden, they're in catastrophe at the end of Game four,
and all of the turnovers in both games just way,
(15:07):
way too sloppy. I give okay, see a ton of credit.
They challenge every shot like you watch these games the Pacers.
They'll swing the ball and it looks like Nemhard might
have a three, and then Dort closes out on him,
and Nemhard's like, all right, I'll drive and kick and
he kicks to Sga and it leads to a fast break.
Like that's okase really forcing your hand. They do a
(15:31):
magnificent job of that. But at the same time, the
Pacers way way, way too sloppy. They said an NBA
Finals record the most turnovers in the half in Game one.
It's a game they still came back to win. They've
been way too careless with the ball. You can't win
games on the road when you're just turning it over
at that rate. Like, good luck winning for a second time. Okay,
(15:54):
they won Game one, dramatic comeback. Good luck winning the
second game on the road when you turn over twenty
three times. They it just wasn't even close as it
turned out. All right, feel free to check in. We'll
get to the militia here momentarily. I want to hear
from Blind Scott and beyond. Feel free to hit me
up on X if you would like. At the No
Show a couple of funny memes about the pole dancing
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days of e Dog. So that was entertaining. Appreciate that.
Shout out to Milkman Mike, who provided the video or
the gift there of Yeah, some like Chippindale's Saturday Night
Live thing going on there with Chris Farley. Good stuff,
all right? Coming up next, this athlete says exactly what
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Our?
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Guy Blind Scott is with us here, Blind Scott, you're
on Fox Sports Radio. What's going on? Bud?
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What's up?
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Brian?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yeah? Hey, that was a really good monologue. That was
some really good stuff. You ever played basketball before? A coach?
I'm thinking you might know the most. I'm on hold
like thirty five hours a week on the radio. I
think you might explain basketball the best. So like when
the Celtics got knocked out of the playoffs, I talked
to you and you were explaining the whole iso ball concept.
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And I think the Celtics would beat the pay Series
even if they played him right now or Oklahoma if
Van Gundy was still there and Missoula had had adjusted.
He was just so stubborn and Drew Holiday didn't show
it at all.
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There you go. First off, blind Scott, I appreciate the praise.
That's very nice of you. I appreciate that, man, But
what's on your Godsmack and Tool list? There? I'm curious
about this.
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We'll go smirks from around here. But nope. So the
Zoomer generation calls Divorced Dad Rock. So the thing about
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Speaker 1 (18:22):
Lead because they Sugar Scott, because they shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That's suck, you know, they suck because the lead singer
to the jerks, the music just isn't that good, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Totally yeah, what what do he pass his way?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I like, Lord, here, On and Bonie Bear, and I
also like Olivia Rodrigo. I like Phoebe Bridgers. I like
some of the new music. Some I like electronic dance music.
I like, you know, I like stuff you would listen
to in the middle of the night, like when you.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Like do you like Duala Blak and Scott?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
I think she like Gosh. I like her, Yeah, I
mean I'm into her. Yeah. Actually I'm a big fan.
I like it, you know, I like it how she
worked out. Yeah, she worked out a lot of the gym,
so I followed that right.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You know, she's a very tall woman. She's an incredibly
tall woman as it turned out. Last guy. Yeah, I
like tall.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
I like tall women that are like six foot four
one ninety like triple d ize thirty eight eight inch waits.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You know, it's very descriptive right here, blind Scott, Yeah
it was. You rattled that off, you know, like, uh,
legitimately on the checklist there, I miss I.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Missed been a little bit, but I think you're I
think you like I hear Ben so much. It's great
to have a break, But I would you know this
rafeel devast thing.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
It's so big.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
It's such big news in Boston, like it's it's taken
on the whole scene. Like I hadn't talked to my
father in six years, and he called the show after
this man and me and him had it out on
the radio and like the Toucher and Hardy show, and
that was something that was something else, So like that
might happen to get today. So looking forward to that,
my mom's like, I just hope that he doesn't blame
(20:05):
me because you know whatever, Like I don't have to
go with the family drama or whatever. But you know me,
I was with my parents like five years ago and
they didn't mind. But they're like retired, but I stay
up on nine dude sports radio calls and yell and
scream and stuff, and me and my dad got into
like a fight. So I hadn't talked to him since.
So I just prefer to live on my own now.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
You know, well, I'm court blind, Scott. I'll tell you
a Toucher. He was a nice dude. Like I used
to write for this website and I did an interview
with Toucher. He was cool with me, and he's a
he's a punk rock guy. He's got punk rock roots
over there.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Touch So yeah, I know all about that. Yeah, he
was a DJ at Atlanta at on ninety nine next
in Alantic, So he's gonna hear you talk. If you
talk towards the end of hour four, he's going to
be listening. I didn't realize you knew him, Brian. I
know him so well, like me and him are like
unbelievably close. I've known him for a long time. I
(21:03):
didn't know you knew him. I would. I would have
mentioned it, you know what I mean. He's really respectful
for people in radio. He would have you on now,
like if you email him, you know what I mean.
He's going on vacation for the rest of week. I
didn't know that. I would have emailed him. I'm just
as close to him as I am with Ben, even close,
even closer.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, Blind Scott, you know, would be my agent over
give me some reps, you know, give me on there
at the hub. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (21:28):
I email? I emailed Fred like fifty times a day
for the past ten years. Like he almost would get
a restraining order if you didn't.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I'll tell you Blind Scott before you go. Since you
like my descriptions, I appreciate that I'm going to give
you a description of the band Tool, and you tell
me if this is on point. Oh god, okay, all
right now Coop is waiting on the edge of his
seat with anticipation. Here here's the description of Tool. Tool
is a band where they'll play something cool to have,
(21:59):
like a cool guitar, par our, cool riff, and just
when they get going, they're like, oh, let's do something
boring for the next three minutes, and then we'll go
back to the cool stuff we were doing.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
All right, cooler, Yeah, there there jerk. So I'm forty two,
so that's the music I grew up. So people we
said you're a tool if you listen to Tool. When
I was in high schooled to rough those people up
in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
At gym, you know there you go, you shove them
into a locker and say, listen to it.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yeah, it wasn't cool to listen to Tool when I
was in high school, trust me, Like, you were not cool.
You weren't. You weren't like hanging with nobody like that.
You weren't. You were hanging by yourself a combat blutan,
you know.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Uh huh, yeah, I hear you. All right, Well, Hey,
we appreciate you checking in Blind Scott. Good stuff. Man,
we're talking music, sports, you know, uh, local radio hosts.
We covered a lot of ground. We clearly set it
in stone. That tool is terrible, right man. This is
(23:00):
a segment that will probably not be appearing on the
podcast due to Coop you know, posting thing that stuff
right there. Stuff. Yeah right, he's like delete cutting room
floor right there. Now, this is something that has definitely
caught my attention. Is Rory McElroy. Okay, so our guy, Rory,
(23:24):
he is taking a weenie route, is what I would say.
He is dodging the media, which I think is just weak.
So this goes back to what we just saw at
the US Open, and also if you go backwards to
last month's PGA Championship. So here's the backstory. And this
(23:47):
isn't just a Rory McElroy thing. Maybe you don't care
about Rory, maybe you don't care about golf. That's fine,
But this to me is way bigger than that. This
is athletes speaking to the media, right, Like, do you
think that they should speak to the media. Now, the
PGA Tour does not require their golfers to speak to
(24:08):
the media, so you might remember this. It was a
couple of months ago where what was it, Colin Morikawa.
He came out and said, I don't think I need
to speak to you guys, and at that point Rory
McElroy backed him up and said he's right. And so Rory,
he's dodged the media. He dodged the media for six
straight rounds in majors. He didn't speak to the media
(24:33):
all throughout the PGA Championships. That was four straight days
no talking to the media, and he skipped out on
the media on the first two days of the US
Open this past weekend, right, So he didn't talk to
him Thursday, didn't talk to him Friday. He graced the
media with his presence and his words as only Lord
(24:55):
Rory McElroy can do. So he was asked about this
on Saturday one of the media members. He said, yeah,
you haven't met with the media after the last six
major rounds. Here, is it because you're frustrated on the
golf course, right, Like Rory has not been playing well,
and so the media guy was like, is it because
(25:15):
of the way you're playing. Here's what Rory said.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
No, not really, it's more of frustration with you guys.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Okay, So he's ticked off at the media, frustrated with
the media. So either the same or a different media member,
I'm not quite sure. The follow up question was in
what way, in what way are you ticked off at us?
Here's what Rory said.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I'm just.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I have been totally
available for the last few years, and I'm not saying
maybe not you guys, but maybe more just the.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
The whole, the whole thing. Hmm. Okay, so the whole thing,
the whole you know, answering questions, talking, promoting the game
of golf. You know, Jesus over it. It's basically what
he just said. That's kind of over it. Maybe it's
not you. Maybe another think that I don't hate you directly,
(26:12):
maybe just this whole thing. Maybe that's okay. So there's
another question. Is this about the driver controversy? So the
driver controversy very shortly, this goes back to the PGA
Championship last month. He had a club that failed testing
(26:34):
and was removed from his bag. So maybe he didn't
like the coverage of that. He didn't like what was
said or written about that. So that's what is it.
Something about the driver controversy. Here's what Rory said, Yeah, part.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Of Yeah, I mean that was that was a part
of it. Yeah, that was that was that was a
part of it. But it's not as if Flake at Augusta,
I skipt you guys on Thursday. So yeah, again, it's
not as if it's not out of the ordinary. I've
done it before.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Okay, all right, now this is the part let's take
a time out for a second. This is exactly what
a bad partner would say, right. He said it a
couple of times. He's like, I've been around pretty much
all the time the last two years, all the time,
whenever you want to talk, I talk to you guys.
And then he just said it right there, He's like,
(27:27):
I didn't skip out on Thursday at Augusta. It's like
if your partner says to you, my girlfriend says to me, like, hey,
you haven't taken the trash out for six straight weeks.
What's up with that? A bad partner would say, well,
what about seven weeks ago? Huh who took the trash out?
(27:51):
Then that's right, it was me. I was taking the
trash out seven weeks ago. It's like we're talking about
the last six weeks though, where you didn't do anything.
That's what we're talking about here. But Rory is like, well,
what about Augusta on Thursday? Yeah, I know I didn't
talk to you guys all throughout the PGA Championship, didn't
talk to you one time. I know I skipped out
(28:13):
on you the first two days here at the US Open.
But I'm talking to you now, am I not like that?
That's what a bad partner in a relationship says. They
don't admit anything they've done wrong, and they just shift
the focus to an area that they did do well
in and don't address their faults at all. That's what
(28:34):
a bad partner says. And that's exactly what Rory McElroy
just said. Now, there was another follow up question. The
reporter's like, hey, after really, and this is true, Rory
McElroy has really been front and center promoting the PGA Tour,
standing up for the PGA Tour, largely done a great job.
(28:58):
And the reporter was just like, are you kind of
just tired of that? Are you tired of doing that?
And that's why you want to dodge these questions? Do
you feel like you've earned the right to dodge these questions.
Here's what Rory said. I feel like I've earned the
right to do whatever I want to do. There it
is there. That's the money quote right there, that explains
everything right there. Yes, I feel like I can do
(29:21):
whatever that he's going Denzel in training day, I'm the
man of business piece is basically what Rory is saying.
And this is where it becomes weak and lame, like
whatever the reasons are and whatever the backstory is why
Rory is bent or doesn't want to deal with the
media or the end result is weak. Dodging questions is weak.
(29:48):
The truth is like, meeting with the media and answering
questions is good for the sport. It promotes the game,
It helps build drama for the next event or the
current event. Why do you think the media talks to players?
Why do you think players interviews and sound bites are
aired all the freaking time on radio on TV because
(30:12):
athletes from time to time say some interesting things and
it helps spruce up that current event or the next event.
So dodging those sessions might be great for Rory, but
it isn't great for the sport. That's the truth, And
you can try to argue against that and poke holes
in it and say, oh, but Brian, does it really
(30:34):
build drama? Is it really necessary? Blah blah blah. It's like, yeah,
athletes at times say some colorful things. They might call
out an opponent. They might say something like Rory has
said some very candid things about live golf, and you're like,
oh man, I can't wait to see what happens in
this next major based on what Rory just said. It
(30:58):
is back and forth with Bryson Shambo. Some of that
has really spruced up some of these matchups like oh man,
they're gonna be in the final pair together, like wow,
and here's the whole backstory. It helps promote the game
and it helps build drama. Some of my favorite drama
building moments like this is before the Super Bowl. I'll
(31:21):
never forget Shannon Sharp and Rab Buchanon. So Shannon Sharp
then at the Broncos, Ray Bucnon then of the Falcons'
is a portion of some of their back and forth
before the game. Here's Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I've never called anybody ugly. Do I think people ugly?
I think he lugged me, but I never fit that
he just did He started it.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That's gold right there by the way, late nineties audio
left a lot to be desired. Right in the background,
it sounds like there's a monsoon in the background. It's
just horrid nineties audio, but still great. Nevertheless, this is
Ray Buchanon and some of the critical things he said
about Shannon Sharp again top notch stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
He might have a body though, everybody laying hisybody to
be like ooh Shannon, But I'm telling you what, man,
you got a grill like that?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Man, I mean total reconstruction. Okay, now this is the
best one. This is Shannon Sharp again, colorful sound bites.
You're telling me you weren't more interested to watch Super
Bowl thirty three with the war of words between these guys.
Come on, this is why they do it. This is
why you interview athletes. This is Shannon Sharp again. To
(32:29):
drop the mike moment talking about Raebu Cannon.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I'm not gonna get into a p in content with
you lose every time, but I will say this all
Suddenly he get an opportunity tobacco.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
What he's saying. If he my friend? No?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Did I ever view him as a friend?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Did I have view him other than acquaintance. No, do
I like him?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
If I see him in a snowstorm, his trucket broke down,
mine is going perfectly.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Would I pick him up? No?
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Rather than that.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Other than that, I could care left about raeby Cannon.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
That's tremendous and he said it within there. It's like
he's got to check, has to back up his words
on Sunday. You're telling me you've never heard a SoundBite
from an athlete and been more interested to watch the
next event. That's a flat out lie if that's what
you say, Like, that's why these leagues and the PGA
(33:18):
two are, That's why they want their athletes to meet
with the media and say things because it helps promote
the sport and build drama for the next event or
the current event. That's something Rory just doesn't want to do.
And listen, I might feel the same way, but you
can't lose sight of the big picture. I can understand
an athlete having some ill will toward the media. Maybe
(33:38):
someone wrote something crazy or said something crazy, and you
just don't want to do it. Rory had he filed
for divorce, and then he was able to reconcile with
his wife, Erica, and there are a lot of people
that said a lot of things and wrote a lot
of things that Rory might not have liked. I might
feel the same exact way if I was in the
same position, But I would look at it and say,
(34:03):
even though this is good for me, I don't want
to deal with the media. It's bigger than that. It's
bigger than just some personal beef or bad blood. It's
about bringing more attention to the sport of golf. That's
the why why you even do these interviews in the
first place. And Rory's forgotten that. He's completely forgotten that,
(34:25):
and that's too bad. And I'll be honest with you.
If they had some sort of like post radio show
press conference, I wouldn't want to do it. I'd probably
want to skip it. But if it helped bring in
more listeners and it helped build the ratings, it'd be
a necessary evil. I would do it, even though I
(34:47):
didn't want to. If after the show it was just
like a postgame press conference, right like Rory finishes around
at the US Open and he's meeting with the media,
they might be like, hey man, why were you terrible
on the eleventh or whatever? If someone was like, you know,
it's a press conference, and they're like, all right, Brian
filling in for big Ben Maller, here your second segment,
(35:08):
Like wow, what went wrong? And I have to answer
those questions like, well, you know, honestly, I thought it
was a good topic. Maybe I had a weird example
or as a little wordy getting to the point, but
you know, I'm just talking it up to a learning experience, right.
If I had to do that after every show, yeah,
I'd probably dread it. But again, if it helped the
(35:32):
overall network, it helped the ratings, it built excitement from
time to time for the next show, you gotta do it.
It's bigger than just you. It's about who you're working for.
And Rory McElroy is working for the PGA Tour and
has just forgotten that the PGA Tour matters here in
(35:57):
this equation. He's forgotten that it's all about him. It's me, me, me,
me me. That's what Rory McElroy is doing. And it's weak,
it's lame, not a fan of it, and his reasons
are even worse than that. This is all you need
to know. I feel like I've earned the right to
do whatever I want to do. Yeah, yeah, that's uh,
that's telling right there, all right. Coming up next, we
(36:18):
bust out the Power ratings and I'll tell you what
these rankings they produced A curveball I didn't see coming
from one Justin Cooper has nothing to do with sports,
but I think you'll find it entertaining. We'll get to that.
Coming up. It is the Big Ben Malor Show. I'm
Brian no filling in for Big Ben here on Fox
(36:39):
Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maler
Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian knowing for Big
Ben Maler. Man, I'll tell you one of the one
of the biggest missed opportunities in radio history. Right there,
I was doing what band is? This is this? Lorena?
I'm sorry?
Speaker 7 (37:05):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (37:06):
It's the Google Dolls, That's who it is.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
I forgot what that is.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
So I was doing my Goo Goo Dolls impression and
the mic wasn't hot yet. Man, So was that not
on point?
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Or what I was?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
So perfect? Should never do it again? Okay? So one
of the things I love about filling in for Big
Ben Meller working with Coop and working with the Lorena
and the random stuff that we talk about off the air,
and they were running to the with like the break
(37:40):
room on a scavenger hunt for pie, right, And so
of course that leads to a full blown discussion, and
I said, we might have to reveal our pie slash
cheesecake power rankings, you know, your top three flavors. And
I asked Coop, I was like, are you cool with
(38:00):
a pie slash cheesecake combination? There? Is it? Absolutely not,
no way. They're basically polar opposites. You cannot have a
hybrid of pie and cheesecake flavors. Is that not true?
They're Coop, I don't think that's what I said, as
I really am I embellishing or what did you say?
Speaker 7 (38:21):
I just said that pie clears cheesecake, okay, made so
much better than cheesecake.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That's the main curve ball, right, I mean I suppose
you could. Cheesecake is so good, that's so delicious, so good. Yeah,
I didn't say that, it's not. I like chocolate cheesecake.
I like cherry cheesecake. I like strawberry cheesecake. I like
New York cheesecake. I like the kind because there's different textures.
You know what I'm saying. No, yeah, there's different textures
of cheesecake. Not really, Why is it vastly superior in
(38:54):
your opinion?
Speaker 7 (38:55):
Coop Lots of reasons you can. You can eat more
of it without feeling terrible. Uh, there's just a wider
variety of.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
No, I'm not. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
Maybe now I guess I get as I get older,
maybe I can't tolerate it as well as I used to.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
But all right, so you can eat more. What else?
The variety flavor? We got a lot of flavors of cheesecake, yes, but.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
They're all like a cream like a cheese base like
pie has variety. You can have like apple like and caramel,
or you can have like key lime, tartcker crust though
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Crust
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