July 18, 2025 • 40 mins
Brian Noe talks about the lack of signings by 2nd round draft picks as they look for guaranteed contracts, how the Colts have mishandled Anthony Richardson, Mercury being in retrograde, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, what's going on? Happy Friday morning to you? Yeah?
Will you trace it back? Who called in here? From
my guy.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Craig in Wisconsin, we had a big debate about All
Star status. If you're a fill in, I don't think
you should get All Star status. And my guy Craig
was like, I mean, do they say you're filling in
for Big Ben. I'm like, yeah, they do. That's exactly
what they say. Like just a couple of seconds ago,
you know I'm filling in. This isn't my new shift.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's still the.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Big Ben Mallor Show, just with fillings. So I won't
restate the whole take. I just think if Caitlin Clark
is banged up, she's not gonna be in the All
Star Game. Whoever takes her spot should just be a replacement.
She should not have All Star status. I think that
should be the same in any league, whether we're talking
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about the NFL and the Pro Bowl. If you're just
filling in, if you're the replacement, you should just be
the replacement. You're not a Pro bowler, You're a replacement dude.
Same thing in basketball, Like and and we had someone
text Kop that said, well, if that's the case.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Then no one's gonna play. I don't agree with that.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I don't agree with this idea that you can't find anybody.
No one's gonna want to, I don't know, take a
trip be around the best players in the game. Of course,
the leagues can add some bells and whistles. You're not
gonna get the status of being an All Star or
a Pro Bowler. But hey, we're gonna sweeten the pot
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for you. We'll throw a little cash your way. We'll
give you some you know, some parting gifts. We'll make
it worth your time. And they might have to do
a little bit more if they're not putting the the
All Star or Pro Bowl status on top of it.
But you're telling me these rich leagues can't do that.
Come on, you shouldn't get All Star Pro Bowl status
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if you're just a fill in. It's as common sense
as it gets. But I want to talk about this.
So I was thinking about the most impactful contract in
NFL history. Now let me walk it back just a smidge.
I want to leave the door cracked, just ever so slightly.
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I'm gonna say this is certainly the most impactful NFL
contract in modern history. Okay, so just take I've been
I was born in seventy seven. I'm forty seven years old.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
While I've been born, well, I've been alive.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
This is the most impactful NFL contract during that span.
It's Deshaun Watson's fully guaranteed contract. That's the most impactful
NFL contract.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And we'll call it the modern era.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
The only reason I say the modern era when the
league goes back as far as it does, there could
have been some random signing and if not for this signing,
there is no league, you know what I mean, Like
those really developmental stages.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Of the league.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So I want to leave the door cracked open where
I'm not an NFL historian on that level, So hey,
maybe there's something that I'm not aware of that literally
is more impactful. So I'll leave the door cracked on that.
I'll just say in the modern era. You know, we're
talking from seventy seven on till present day. Deshaun Watson
signing a fully guaranteed two hundred and thirty million dollar
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contract is the most impactful contract in NFL modern history.
The reasons why are if you look at what it
led to. The funny twist is Deshaun Watson has had
zero impact on the Browns. He's had no impact on
the Cleveland Browns, but he's had a huge impact on
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the National Football League. And we're not looking for the
NFL contract that impacted a team or a couple at teams.
We're looking for an NFL contract that affected the league
the most, and that's DeShawn Watson's contract.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I gave you the whole story.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
This goes back to March of twenty twenty two, and
I'm not going to restate the whole thing. Just what
matters in this this take of mind that I'm throwing
at you. Okay, So Deshaun signed his two hundred and
thirty million dollars fully guaranteed deal in March of twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
What did it lead to?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It led to other NFL owners being pissed, Okay, to
the point where they met at the NFL Owners meetings
that same month later in March of twenty twenty two,
and they gave a presentation the NFL urged teams, urged
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team owners to not give out fully guaranteed contracts, and
they said, if this guarantee, if guarantees continue to grow
in both amount and number of players. Then there's a
risk that they become the norm in contracts regardless of
player quality, that not only has the potential to hinder
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roster management, but set a market standard that will be
difficult to walk back. That was literally in black and white.
They're giving like pamphlets like here's what we're gonna discuss.
We're gonna discuss all of us not giving out guaranteed contracts,
fully guaranteed deals to these guys. All right, we're all
on this one, two, three, No guarantees. Right, That's what
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it did. That, Like the nerve of these freaking dudes
man like to put it on paper is so dumb.
Just say it. There's no no track record of this
unless someone's recording everything.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
But you're gonna put this on paper. Why would you
do that?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
There are documents floating around, who knows who gets their
hands on it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You know, it's just not smart. But the point is.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
NFL team owners were so ticked off about this Deshaun
Watson contract and the precedent it threatened to set that
they got together and as the arbitrator ruled, engaged in
collusive behavior.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You can't quite say it's.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Collusion but by gosh, it was collusive behavior. That's the
biggest cop out ever. Man, this is textbook collusion.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
But the arbitrator didn't want to take it that far.
He's like, eh, I need a little bit more proof.
I don't know what more you needed there. They're they're
giving out they're handing out papers of like, yo, we
need to stop giving out. Fully guaranteed contracts. Not a
good idea bad precedent to set. You're gonna get screwed
down the road. But that's what the Deshaun Watson deal
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led to. What other contract led to anything even halfway comparable?
I mean really like you could mention the Kirk Cousins
fully guaranteed deal, but that was for a lot less money.
A lot less money. We're talking two hundred and thirty
million dollars fully guaranteed. To the point where there are
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NFL team owners texting each other. The Chargers team owner
Dean Spanos, he was texting Cardinals team owner Michael Bidwell
and congratulating Bidwell for signing Kyler Murray to a deal
that had modest guaranteed money included. And Dean Spanos even
put your deal helps us for our quarterback next year.
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That all traces back to Deshaun Watson's contract. There isn't
another contract in the modern NFL that's even close to
as impactful as that, And that's the hilarious thing to me. Again,
to restate it, DeShawn had no impact on the Browns,
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He's done nothing, but he had a mammoth impact on
the NFL, so much so that an arbitrator had to
rule on this case whether the NFL was engaging in
collusive behavior or not.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
He ruled they were.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And then the NFLPA said, you know what, let's just
sign this confidentiality agreement and not let anyone know about this.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
We'll just keep this between.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
You, NFL and US the Players Association. Yet the players,
they don't need to know about it. We'll just keep
it between you and you and us NFL. What is
the NFLPA doing? What are they doing? But anyway, this
all traces back to the Shawn Watson's deal.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You can you can, Brian.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What about the the Herschel Walker contract and that trade
and how impactful it was for what for the Cowboys,
for the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You could take that a little bit further. You could
say that the teams that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
The Cowboys beat and route to Super Bowls, the Bills,
Bills come to a certainly impacted the Bills, right like
it laid the groundwork for the Cowboys to win three
or four Super Bowls. So there are multiple teams involved.
You could come up with other contracts and hey, this
impacted three teams. Hey this impacted four teams pretty significantly. Great,
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this Deshaun Watson contract affected all thirty two teams. There
isn't another contract you can come up with from seventy
on that did the same thing. That's the crazy thing
to me is that Deshaun Watson contract. That is the
most impactful league wide contract in NFL modern history.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
That blows my mind a little bit. You know, and
think about this too. This is the other thing to consider.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So I'm taking a little bit of a different direction
and I'll bring it back right to where we were
with DeShawn. Okay, So the latest thing that's happened, and
this was on Thursday and Thursday evening, a couple of
these second round picks are signing. So all these second
round NFL players they were just drafted, they want fully
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guaranteed contracts. This is typically not what happens very rare
in the second round. There have been a couple throughout
the years deals that have been fully guaranteed. This year,
all these second rounders want fully guaranteed contracts for a
couple of reasons. One is the number thirty three overall pick,
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Carson Swessinger. He's got a fully guaranteed second round contract, okay.
Is the first pick in the second round, the second
pick of the second round, wide receiver Jaden Higgins, number
thirty four overall. He got a fully guaranteed contract. So
all these dudes are like, hey, we want ours. And
then you have Tyler Shock. He's a rookie quarterback with
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the Saints. He was drafted number forty overall. Okay, he
wants a fully guaranteed contract. He's insisting on it because
Derek Carr retired and Shock stands to be the starter.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
So he's like, yo, I should at least have.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
A guaranteed contract over here, I'm gonna be the starter.
I shouldn't have like eighty five percent guaranteed. It needs
to be one hundred percent guaranteed. A hundred is what
Tyler Shuck is saying. And so all these players drafted
before Tyler Shuck at fortieth overall. All these players in
the second round after Tyler Shuck, they won a fully
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guaranteed contract as well. And so one of the things
that was interesting on late Thursday night the Seahawks, they
agreed to a fully guaranteed contract with their rookie.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
They signed their guy.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Right, they have Nick iman Uwari and he's got a
fully guaranteed deal.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
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we go, here's the official e man Worri.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
There we go, e man, it's easy way, e man Worri.
So he's got a fully guaranteed contract. He was the
number thirty five overall picks, the third pick in the
second round, fully guaranteed deal. Now you could look at
this and say, all right, so the first three picks
of the second round this year, they all have fully
guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
He's just the next guy in line. Maybe you could
look at it that way, or.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Baby all this stuff with the Deshaun Watson thing, there's
collusive behavior and arbitrator rules in favor of the NFLPA.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Pablo Tori gets.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
His hands on these documents, he releases this sixty one
page document of the arbitrators ruling. It's all out there, right.
Maybe this is partially the NFL's way of shifting the
focus instead of hey, collusive behavior, they're trying to limit guarantee.
The NFL says, hey, look at this. Look at another
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fully guaranteed contract. Another fully guaranteed deal over here, right,
the second rounder. We haven't seen this before, not the
bad NFL. No, no, we're giving out guaranteed contracts. Now.
You read the fine print, and this is like for
nine million dollars over the course of the entire deal.
You know, they're like, eh, I don't mind, that's just details.
Oh look at us, look at us fully guaranteed deals. Huh.
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Forget about the collusive behavior. Think about the NFL.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
We're giving out guaranteed money over here, left and right.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I don't know, man, I think one could have something
to do with the other. I really do think it
could have something to do with the other. But we'll
see where it goes. One by one. We'll get these
second rounders signed. But I'm surprised this stuff doesn't drag
on a little bit more. You know, for the most part,
even first rounders, it's not set in Stone that you're
gonna have a fully guaranteed contract as a first round pick.
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A lot of picks don't have that. I'm surprised these
negotiations don't drag out more. You know, this thing with
the second rounders. This year, we had one other guy
from the forty nine ers. He signed it a little
bit earlier on Thursday, Alfred Collins, and it's not a
fully guaranteed deal.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Now he's the.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Forty third overall pick, a little bit lower in the
second round. He didn't get a fully guaranteed deal. But
I'm surprised. So we have what to my knowledge, four
second rounders who are signed. We have the top three
guys and the forty third overall pick.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
It's four guys.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's four of thirty two second round picks. Everybody's holding
out for guaranteed money. I'm surprised that we don't have
more of these players on a yearly basis, like banging
the table. I want fully guaranteed money as a second
round pick. We're finally seeing it this year, but I'm
surprised we haven't seen it in years past. You know,
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I just kept thinking, hey, the money slotted, Oh you're
the fifth overall pick boom. You're slotted to make this.
Oh you're the forty third overall pick boom. You're slotted
to make this. It's slotted.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But you can argue over language.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You can argue over how much of the contract is
guaranteed or not. You can argue over everything. I'm surprised
we haven't had that more over the years. All right,
In any event.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I'm Brian though, filling in for Big Ben Mallord.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
This is not rebranded. It's still there. I'm not I'm
just merely a fill in. I should not get, you know,
third shift status. I should not get overnight late show status.
This is not I'm not changing my LinkedIn bio to
over weekday overnight host on Fox Sports Radio. That would
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be incorrect, be incorrect with Raina. I'm just filling in,
just like these All Star game fill ins, these replacements,
these alternates, they shouldn't get All Star or Pro Bowl
status right there, That's what I say. Coming up next,
this guy isn't very good, but his organization made a worse.
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I used to I used to know this song on guitar.
I used to play this one. I don't remember it anymore,
but you could play it. Yeah, I could play this one.
So a little fun fact hot tup time Machine for
you guys. So I moved out to La Gosh, this
was like one something like that. So I graduated college.
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I've been playing guitar for half my life. So I'm like,
I'm moving to La gonna give guitar like a serious go.
And I was like when I moved there, I don't
know anybody. I don't know anyone, and so I I'm like,
you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go to
this guitar school for a semester. I have no plans
on graduating. I'm gonna go there. I'm gonna meet a
bunch of people and uh, you know, have a bass
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maybe would band together the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
So that's what I did. And so it was Musicians
Institute was.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Right there off of Hollywood, at least it was, I
don't know if it's still there, and they'd make you.
It was really cool, like part of the whole curriculum.
You had to get on stage and perform these songs.
And they would give you a list of songs that
you could pick from each week, and you had to
perform X amount of times, and Sugar from System was
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one of them. And so I had to learn that
song and perform it and do the whole thing nice.
So at one point, Coop, I knew Sugar no more.
I could relearn it.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
But if you're like, play it right now, prove it,
I'd be like, I don't remember, but I could relearn it.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Very good song, very good song by System that is
not one of their sucky songs, although I contend every
band has at least a handful of sucky songs, everyone,
every single one, without fail. I want to get to
the team that screwed up a player that was already
a little screwed up.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
In a second. But my girl Andrea is with us
over there in Berkeley. What is going on, Andrea? How
are things good? How are you doing pretty good?
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Yes? First things first, I wanted to mention that Mercury
just turned retrograde seventeenth to August eleventh.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Oh man, okay, all right, what are we in store
for here?
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Yeah? Well, delays and some communication confusions, some technology snaffoos,
and the first thing I thought of was the disappointment
of Caitlin Clarwhark not playing in the WNBA All Star Game.
I was really looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I know, can mercury and retrograde? Can it affect groin muscles?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Is that what happened with Canton over there?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Here's the thing and to your point, Mars is a
crucial planet for an athlete, the rules energy, assertion, and aggression.
She has Mars and Aries and Saturn just went into Aries.
Saturn was a skeletal system Brian bone, these Keith joints
and back.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
So when you have a Saturn aspect to your Mars,
it's once every twenty nine years, and it's really not
good for your health and your skeletal system. And you know,
I was hoping to montra delay not denial, but it
kind of took its toll. It's toe and Neptune is
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also in Aries on her Mars, and that's kind of
like disappointing and disillusioning. So she's not in a really
good space, which is too bad because she's so inspiring.
She has five planets in Aquarius. She's January twenty two
oh two. She's a Youngian.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
See what I.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Think, Andrew, and you correct me if I'm wrong over here,
But I think mercury gets all the shine if I'm saturn,
if I'm Neptune, like all I hear about is murcro grade?
What about us in aries? What about the impact of that?
That's what I'd be saying if I was.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Saturned, right, I think your point is well taken. I mean,
the narrative is at the water cooler, people are talking
about mercury retrograde because that's like the most commonplace transit
that even people who are not astrologers are tuned into.
The outer planet transits are a little more complex, so
the regular layperson might not really be tuning into that,
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but you know, for the popularity, I mean, it trends
on Twitter. You know, you just hear people who are
not necessarily tuned into astrology talking and complaining about mercury retrograde.
It's like, okay, we've gone mainstream.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, so I'll bring this back to music, okay, And
so mercury and retrograde. That would be like enter Sandman
from Metallica, right, like Monster Hit.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Everyone's aware of this.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It's still played in arenas and stadiums to this day.
That'll and Saturn and Arias and all that. That that's
more like my friend of Misery, which if you're you're
not huge on Metallica right now, Andrea, that's it's a
great song, but it's not a hit song. It's not
a song that the non diehards would most likely be
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aware of. Is that what's happening with Mercury and Saturn?
I think that's a pretty good computer.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Yes, that's an excellent analogy. I've seen Metallica at you know,
Open for Giants games and stuff, and that said, I
think you captured the essence of it. You know, it's
a little you know, mercury retrograde is very commonplace. It says,
oh yeah, it must be mercury retrograde. And then you
know the nuances, the kind of fine points if you
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alluded to with the other Metallica song, unless you're really
you know, tuned into the you know, other planets and
how Mars is a crucial plant for an athlete. It
kind of escapes you.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Gotcha, gotcha? That's very well as we could make it Escape.
There's a Metallica song called Escape. I think it's well,
we could we could make it that and really fine
tune the comparison.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Right, we could do that.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Now you're talking very.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Nice, well, Andrew. Always good to hear from you. I
hope you have a great morning and hope everything is
going well for you.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
The yes enjoying your show than Brian.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, thank you. There she is Andrea in Berkeley. Very nice.
So we got h you know, we got some music,
sports and uh you know all the uh you know, Mercury, Saturn,
all that astrological stuff as well.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Pretty good. I feel like we covered a lot of
ground there. What don't we have? What don't we have?
That is the question right there? We even have cats,
well we did.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Oreo the neighborhood cat. She had to leave after the
first hour. Sadly she has not returned just yet, Fingers crossed,
because sometimes she will. She'll head back two am, five am.
So maybe maybe she'll make it back before the show
is over.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I hope so.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But yeah, Oreo, Oreo is in charge. I just live
in Oreo's world right now. She's that cool. Okay, Militia
feel free hit us up eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox. You're always welcome. Let me throw this quick
take at you where I saw this tweet from Adam Schefter.
It just simply says Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson is believed
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to have recovered from his recent right shoulder setback as
the team prepares to report for training camp next week. Okay,
if Anthony Richardson does anything in the NFL, not just
this year, but ever, I'll be impressed.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'll be impressed.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I don't want to write the guy off completely, and
I'm not. I'm just telling you I'll be impressed because
so far the start has been god awful. It has
been freaking terrible when and we're only two years in,
so there might be some people that say, hey, Brian,
you know, he's a top five pick for a reason.
He does have some ability you never know if it's realized. Well,
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all of that is true. I can't dispute that, but
what I would push back on is just how much
ground he has to cover to be a legitimate starting
quarterback in the NFL. His completion percentage last year was
forty seven point seven percent. Okay, he's sub not fifty percent,
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he's sub forty eight percent. Okay, he's put up in
two years numbers that in some instances are worse than
Tim Tebow's quarterback numbers in the NFL coincidentally, both Florida
quarterbacks right there with a rich and Tebow. That's not
the company you want to be in. If you're Anthony Richardson,
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you do not want to be shoulder to shoulder with
Tim Tebow in the stats department. But that's where he is.
And this is where I would start looking sideways at
the Colts. This is not just an Anthony Richardson thing.
This is a Colts thing. The Colts mismanaged this dude
so badly. I would compare it to that. I'm all
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about comparisons tonight. The Colts. They're like the guy who
bought this high end sports car.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
This guy went to the dealership. He is like, I
saved my money.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I want a Lamborghini, give me it right now, here's
all the money.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And then he got it.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's back at home and instead of waiting a little bit,
this guy couldn't help himself. It's raining sideways outside, the
wind is going crazy, it's even hailing a little bit.
And this guy who just bought a Lamborghini is like,
I didn't I just keep it in the garage. We're
going out, We're going for a drive, right, it's not
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the time to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Just wait, be patient.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
And the colts in their situation, they were not patient
with Anthony Richardson at all. Anthony Richardson in college, he
threw less than four hundred passing attempts. He had less
than four hundred passing attempts in college. You compare that
to some of these guys what they did in college.
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Some of them are throwing for over a thousand, over
fifteen hundred, sometimes over two thousand passing attempts in college.
Anthony Richardson had less than four hundred. He had no experience,
and the Colts are like, throw him in, maybe he's
ready for life in the NFL. And shockingly, he was
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not at all. They threw him in the deep end
and he didn't know how to sw whim. I don't
know why the Colts would do that. You know something
that blows my mind? Think about this, Patrick Mahomes, and
I could look at it real fast. Here, how many
we'll do a guessing game? How many passing attempts? I
don't know off the top of my head. How many
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passing attempts do you think Patrick Mahomes had in college?
Is that Texas Tech how many? Okay, got the answer
right here. Yeah, this is really tipicly fast. I'm getting
a little bit better at this googling thing. So, Patrick Mahomes,
he threw one thousand, three hundred and forty nine passes
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in college thirteen forty nine. That's almost a thousand more
passes than Anthony Richardson threw in college. Okay, And what
happened with those two quarterbacks? Patrick Mahomes sat the entire
rookie season, his entire rookie year in the NFL except
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for the final game of the regular season. He started
that game. That's it against Coops Broncos. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And that's it. He started one game.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
As a rookie, even with almost over a thousand more
attempts in college than Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson started right away,
like Week five or something. He's starting games in the
NFL with no experience, a lack of passing attempts. That
was so dumb for the Colts to rush that guy.
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He needed to sit, He needed to develop. He did
not need to be thrown into the deep end. That
was such a bad approach by the Colts and now
you've seen what's happened the first two years.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
He's been banged up like crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
That's not the Colts fault, but he is a disaster
as a quarterback. And he's got a bright quarterback mind
in Shane Stikeens. Shane Stikeen was a former quarterback at
a lower level, but he knows what he's doing. It's
a good play call, bright offensive mind, knows the quarterback position.
And Steiken's been able to do nothing so far because
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they threw him in too early and he just wasn't
ready to swim. And I feel bad for Anthony Richardson
to a degree because I think he would have had
a better shot to at least be in a better
position to be further developed, to not be a train
wreck at this point of his NFL career. I think
the Colts have a lot to do with that. I
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don't think a rich has crushed it by any means,
but I think the Colts have been bad for him, bad, bad, bad,
terrible approach. Let me go to Gary in Oakland. He's
got something on All Star. Oh no, Gary's gone?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I love the All Star topic. Was he pushing back Coop?
Do you know if he was fighting back. Was he
fighting against logic?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
No, he was basically saying that the All Star Game
is it's a TV show, that it's about all pros.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Like that's that's a bad take. Come on, Gary, gotta
do better than that. Like that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
He's partially right, Okay, I'll meet him part of the way.
It is a TV show. It is for entertainment. But
where I completely disagree, that's not all it is. It's
the prestige. It's the acknowledgment of being known as an
All Star. That's a big deal. Like I played the
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audio of Kobe Bryant's farewell tour and they're announcing him
as seventeen time All Stars.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
See, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Though, Yeah, I feel like and so I agree with
him in a sense, it used to be a big deal.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
It still is, I don't think. I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Absolutely, it's still a big deal. You're still going to
be recognized like that. They still do it. I still
hear it to this day.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, but anybody who knows sports knows it's not a
big deal anymore because of things like like what you're
talking about with Miss Rosy and Tyler Huntley and other
people that end up on All Star teams because nobody
wants to do the All Star Game anymore. It's not
even just injury replacements anymore. There's a lot of times
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in the NFL, right where the Pro bowlers they just
don't want to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well, listen, I think that it's case by case. I
agree with you, like generally speaking, it's been watered down
quite a bit for everything that you mentioned, But I
think where it's case by case. If you're a two
time All Star, I mean, we got to read the
fine print on that, right, Like were you on a
sucky team and you were the one MLB representative from
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that sucky team and that's how you got in there? Right?
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Like?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Are you a replacement All Star and that's how you
got the status? Or are you like one of the greats?
Are you a legit like Clayton Kershaw?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Well, I know he just had the exemption as a
bad example.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
But well no, but I'll see that's exactly you bring
up a good point though, because look, I mean, obviously
when you say seventeen time, also you know you're talking
about one of the great ones. But even those guys, right,
And I hate to say it probably even Kobe, Yeah,
you're right right by the end, sure probably shouldn't have
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been in it, but he sure gets in it because
of his career.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I remember Yao Ming had played like five games or
something and was hurt and he made Yeah. Yeah, so yeah,
you do have to read some fight in print from
time to time. But I think, you know, we don't
have to look sideways at Otani and Judge like they
they're somehow getting charity for getting to the We know
that they've completely deserved it, you know what I mean.
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So that's my point is it doesn't water down the
credentials for everybody automatically, right, Like there are some guys
where you know for sure they were easily no doubt
All Stars, and so it's not watered down for them,
I don't think. But yeah, for the dude that's like, hey,
I'm a two time All Star, he might want to
check into that, you know, check the legitimacy of those
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two All Star nods where you just the you know
the Grammy Phil like seat filler guy, is that what
you were?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Or you're a real All Star?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I just man, I think we should not give replacements
the distinction of being quote unquote All Stars. Think about that,
like Jacob Mezowski as a fill in, fill in, fill
and filling like well down the list, replacement, alternate All Star.
He's on the same footing. He's classified on the same
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footing as show Hey Otani and Aaron Judge. That's the
dumbest thing ever. He's started five games.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Like, he's not on the same level as those guys,
but he has the same distinction as being a twenty
twenty five All Star. That's ridiculous, but that's what they're doing.
I guess the dumble UNBA is gonna do the same
thing with Caitlin Clark being out and I don't get it. Hey, listen, man,
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it is it's for entertainment. It's partially a TV show.
I have no problem with that. Hey have Jacob Mazarowski
in the All Star Game.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Invite him.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Those players are gonna say, yes, Joe, don't give him
the classification of being an All Star because he's not.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
He wasn't voted in. He's just a replacement. He's a
fill in. That's what he is.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
That's what all the replacements were exactly that they were
replacements for the real All Stars, so the replacements shouldn't
get All Star status.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Man, I love. We were just going right back to
the well back.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
It's like that, Uh, we're Damar Derozen shooting a mid
range shot.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
We're just going right back to over and over.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
All.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Right, we'll turn the page from this.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Coming up, Oh, Coop, I've got a poker story for you,
and that's not all. I've got poker audio for you
as well. If you're a Cards fan, you're gonna want
to stay tuned for this. I'm Brian though filling in
for Big Ben Mallor. This is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Mallor
Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
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looking forward, I got an assortment of NFL topics for you.
At the top of the hour, but right now, I've
got poker for you.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
So here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
So, Michael the Grinder Miss Rocky, he won the World
Series of Poker Main Event. Koopy won is eighth World
Series of Poker bracelet. He's tied for fifth all time,
and he eliminated the last guy on Wednesday afternoon heads
up Poker MS Rocky. He wins ten million dollars. That's amazing.
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The World Series main event had a little over nine
seven hundred players, so we're in the neighborhood of ten
thousand players. The prize pool was over ninety million dollars.
The guy that came in second place got six million bucks.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Not bad.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Not bad.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
As the runner up, I would take it. I would
absolutely take that as well.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Now, Coop, there's a story that's gonna hurt your heart,
and there are a couple of stories that I think will.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Make you smile. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
So the first thing that I think will hurt your
heart's a pivotal hand on Tuesday. Okay, everything ended on Wednesday.
We're getting down to the nitty gritty on Tuesday, okay.
And so he had Miss Rocky. He's in a pivotal
hand with the guy who finished in second Placenock. I
think his name is uh huh so John Wosnock. He
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is not a professional player. He's gone up against the
grinder who is a pro, and so Miss Rocky he
went all in. Miss Rocky had ace king the non
Professionalsnock he had pocket kings. Okay, big slick ace king
against pocket kings. Miss Rocky spiked an ace on the river.
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That's a little piece of you dies if you're the
guy with cowboys over there, you know Wisnock. That was
a big shift in chip stack right there. So that
has a big pivotal hand. How about this. This will
make you smile if you're in the grinder shoes Coop.
Good start on Wednesday, first hand of the day, he
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knocked somebody out. Second hand of the afternoon he knock
another player. That's a crazy start. Wow.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Here that guy was calling with he called it ten
to six.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Oh wow, I didn't realize that.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah. The second guy he knocked out had ten six
suited and the grinder was the one that raised raised
the guy all in and he called him. I don't
know what he was doing, but they were both they
were both very short stacked now.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Here real fast.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
The final hand, I think Miss Rocky should owe at
least a million dollars, should be a minimum half a
million dollar fine. Here final hand, Miss Rocky has ten
three of clubs wasnock. He's got the ace of spades
and the nine of diamonds wasnock. He has top pair,
he's got aces and nines. Miss Rocky. After the turn,
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he's got a club flush. Okay, and Miss Rocky, I'll
play the audio for you on the other side. I
don't have time for it right here. But Miss Rocky
didn't know the situation at all, Like what the river
card about to be? Flip ms Rocky's like, we want baby,
it's over.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
It's like the other guy could he could river an
ace or a nine and have a full boat and win.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
And Miss Rocky thought he was good. He thought he
already had it.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I think in that situation, when you win ten million
dollars significant fine, he's what I say, He's gonna be
cursed if he doesn't pay pay for that slip up.
I'll get to the audio. And also, this player thinks
something unprecedented will happen in the NFL
Oh, what's going on? Happy Friday morning to you? Yeah?
Will you trace it back? Who called in here? From
my guy.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Craig in Wisconsin, we had a big debate about All
Star status. If you're a fill in, I don't think
you should get All Star status. And my guy Craig
was like, I mean, do they say you're filling in
for Big Ben. I'm like, yeah, they do. That's exactly
what they say. Like just a couple of seconds ago,
you know I'm filling in. This isn't my new shift.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's still the.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Big Ben Mallor Show, just with fillings. So I won't
restate the whole take. I just think if Caitlin Clark
is banged up, she's not gonna be in the All
Star Game. Whoever takes her spot should just be a replacement.
She should not have All Star status. I think that
should be the same in any league, whether we're talking
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about the NFL and the Pro Bowl. If you're just
filling in, if you're the replacement, you should just be
the replacement. You're not a Pro bowler, You're a replacement dude.
Same thing in basketball, Like and and we had someone
text Kop that said, well, if that's the case.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Then no one's gonna play. I don't agree with that.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I don't agree with this idea that you can't find anybody.
No one's gonna want to, I don't know, take a
trip be around the best players in the game. Of course,
the leagues can add some bells and whistles. You're not
gonna get the status of being an All Star or
a Pro Bowler. But hey, we're gonna sweeten the pot
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for you. We'll throw a little cash your way. We'll
give you some you know, some parting gifts. We'll make
it worth your time. And they might have to do
a little bit more if they're not putting the the
All Star or Pro Bowl status on top of it.
But you're telling me these rich leagues can't do that.
Come on, you shouldn't get All Star Pro Bowl status
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if you're just a fill in. It's as common sense
as it gets. But I want to talk about this.
So I was thinking about the most impactful contract in
NFL history. Now let me walk it back just a smidge.
I want to leave the door cracked, just ever so slightly.
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I'm gonna say this is certainly the most impactful NFL
contract in modern history. Okay, so just take I've been
I was born in seventy seven. I'm forty seven years old.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
While I've been born, well, I've been alive.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
This is the most impactful NFL contract during that span.
It's Deshaun Watson's fully guaranteed contract. That's the most impactful
NFL contract.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And we'll call it the modern era.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
The only reason I say the modern era when the
league goes back as far as it does, there could
have been some random signing and if not for this signing,
there is no league, you know what I mean, Like
those really developmental stages.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Of the league.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So I want to leave the door cracked open where
I'm not an NFL historian on that level, So hey,
maybe there's something that I'm not aware of that literally
is more impactful. So I'll leave the door cracked on that.
I'll just say in the modern era. You know, we're
talking from seventy seven on till present day. Deshaun Watson
signing a fully guaranteed two hundred and thirty million dollar
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contract is the most impactful contract in NFL modern history.
The reasons why are if you look at what it
led to. The funny twist is Deshaun Watson has had
zero impact on the Browns. He's had no impact on
the Cleveland Browns, but he's had a huge impact on
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the National Football League. And we're not looking for the
NFL contract that impacted a team or a couple at teams.
We're looking for an NFL contract that affected the league
the most, and that's DeShawn Watson's contract.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I gave you the whole story.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
This goes back to March of twenty twenty two, and
I'm not going to restate the whole thing. Just what
matters in this this take of mind that I'm throwing
at you. Okay, So Deshaun signed his two hundred and
thirty million dollars fully guaranteed deal in March of twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
What did it lead to?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It led to other NFL owners being pissed, Okay, to
the point where they met at the NFL Owners meetings
that same month later in March of twenty twenty two,
and they gave a presentation the NFL urged teams, urged
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team owners to not give out fully guaranteed contracts, and
they said, if this guarantee, if guarantees continue to grow
in both amount and number of players. Then there's a
risk that they become the norm in contracts regardless of
player quality, that not only has the potential to hinder
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roster management, but set a market standard that will be
difficult to walk back. That was literally in black and white.
They're giving like pamphlets like here's what we're gonna discuss.
We're gonna discuss all of us not giving out guaranteed contracts,
fully guaranteed deals to these guys. All right, we're all
on this one, two, three, No guarantees. Right, That's what
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it did. That, Like the nerve of these freaking dudes
man like to put it on paper is so dumb.
Just say it. There's no no track record of this
unless someone's recording everything.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
But you're gonna put this on paper. Why would you
do that?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
There are documents floating around, who knows who gets their
hands on it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You know, it's just not smart. But the point is.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
NFL team owners were so ticked off about this Deshaun
Watson contract and the precedent it threatened to set that
they got together and as the arbitrator ruled, engaged in
collusive behavior.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You can't quite say it's.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Collusion but by gosh, it was collusive behavior. That's the
biggest cop out ever. Man, this is textbook collusion.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
But the arbitrator didn't want to take it that far.
He's like, eh, I need a little bit more proof.
I don't know what more you needed there. They're they're
giving out they're handing out papers of like, yo, we
need to stop giving out. Fully guaranteed contracts. Not a
good idea bad precedent to set. You're gonna get screwed
down the road. But that's what the Deshaun Watson deal
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led to. What other contract led to anything even halfway comparable?
I mean really like you could mention the Kirk Cousins
fully guaranteed deal, but that was for a lot less money.
A lot less money. We're talking two hundred and thirty
million dollars fully guaranteed. To the point where there are
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NFL team owners texting each other. The Chargers team owner
Dean Spanos, he was texting Cardinals team owner Michael Bidwell
and congratulating Bidwell for signing Kyler Murray to a deal
that had modest guaranteed money included. And Dean Spanos even
put your deal helps us for our quarterback next year.
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That all traces back to Deshaun Watson's contract. There isn't
another contract in the modern NFL that's even close to
as impactful as that, And that's the hilarious thing to me. Again,
to restate it, DeShawn had no impact on the Browns,
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He's done nothing, but he had a mammoth impact on
the NFL, so much so that an arbitrator had to
rule on this case whether the NFL was engaging in
collusive behavior or not.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
He ruled they were.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And then the NFLPA said, you know what, let's just
sign this confidentiality agreement and not let anyone know about this.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
We'll just keep this between.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
You, NFL and US the Players Association. Yet the players,
they don't need to know about it. We'll just keep
it between you and you and us NFL. What is
the NFLPA doing? What are they doing? But anyway, this
all traces back to the Shawn Watson's deal.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You can you can, Brian.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What about the the Herschel Walker contract and that trade
and how impactful it was for what for the Cowboys,
for the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You could take that a little bit further. You could
say that the teams that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
The Cowboys beat and route to Super Bowls, the Bills,
Bills come to a certainly impacted the Bills, right like
it laid the groundwork for the Cowboys to win three
or four Super Bowls. So there are multiple teams involved.
You could come up with other contracts and hey, this
impacted three teams. Hey this impacted four teams pretty significantly. Great,
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this Deshaun Watson contract affected all thirty two teams. There
isn't another contract you can come up with from seventy
on that did the same thing. That's the crazy thing
to me is that Deshaun Watson contract. That is the
most impactful league wide contract in NFL modern history.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
That blows my mind a little bit. You know, and
think about this too. This is the other thing to consider.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So I'm taking a little bit of a different direction
and I'll bring it back right to where we were
with DeShawn. Okay, So the latest thing that's happened, and
this was on Thursday and Thursday evening, a couple of
these second round picks are signing. So all these second
round NFL players they were just drafted, they want fully
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guaranteed contracts. This is typically not what happens very rare
in the second round. There have been a couple throughout
the years deals that have been fully guaranteed. This year,
all these second rounders want fully guaranteed contracts for a
couple of reasons. One is the number thirty three overall pick,
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Carson Swessinger. He's got a fully guaranteed second round contract, okay.
Is the first pick in the second round, the second
pick of the second round, wide receiver Jaden Higgins, number
thirty four overall. He got a fully guaranteed contract. So
all these dudes are like, hey, we want ours. And
then you have Tyler Shock. He's a rookie quarterback with
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the Saints. He was drafted number forty overall. Okay, he
wants a fully guaranteed contract. He's insisting on it because
Derek Carr retired and Shock stands to be the starter.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
So he's like, yo, I should at least have.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
A guaranteed contract over here, I'm gonna be the starter.
I shouldn't have like eighty five percent guaranteed. It needs
to be one hundred percent guaranteed. A hundred is what
Tyler Shuck is saying. And so all these players drafted
before Tyler Shuck at fortieth overall. All these players in
the second round after Tyler Shuck, they won a fully
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guaranteed contract as well. And so one of the things
that was interesting on late Thursday night the Seahawks, they
agreed to a fully guaranteed contract with their rookie.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
They signed their guy.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Right, they have Nick iman Uwari and he's got a
fully guaranteed deal.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Eman war a worry. I always screw this up. Here
we go, here's the official e man Worri.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
There we go, e man, it's easy way, e man Worri.
So he's got a fully guaranteed contract. He was the
number thirty five overall picks, the third pick in the
second round, fully guaranteed deal. Now you could look at
this and say, all right, so the first three picks
of the second round this year, they all have fully
guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
He's just the next guy in line. Maybe you could
look at it that way, or.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Baby all this stuff with the Deshaun Watson thing, there's
collusive behavior and arbitrator rules in favor of the NFLPA.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Pablo Tori gets.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
His hands on these documents, he releases this sixty one
page document of the arbitrators ruling. It's all out there, right.
Maybe this is partially the NFL's way of shifting the
focus instead of hey, collusive behavior, they're trying to limit guarantee.
The NFL says, hey, look at this. Look at another
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fully guaranteed contract. Another fully guaranteed deal over here, right,
the second rounder. We haven't seen this before, not the
bad NFL. No, no, we're giving out guaranteed contracts. Now.
You read the fine print, and this is like for
nine million dollars over the course of the entire deal.
You know, they're like, eh, I don't mind, that's just details.
Oh look at us, look at us fully guaranteed deals. Huh.
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Forget about the collusive behavior. Think about the NFL.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
We're giving out guaranteed money over here, left and right.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I don't know, man, I think one could have something
to do with the other. I really do think it
could have something to do with the other. But we'll
see where it goes. One by one. We'll get these
second rounders signed. But I'm surprised this stuff doesn't drag
on a little bit more. You know, for the most part,
even first rounders, it's not set in Stone that you're
gonna have a fully guaranteed contract as a first round pick.
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A lot of picks don't have that. I'm surprised these
negotiations don't drag out more. You know, this thing with
the second rounders. This year, we had one other guy
from the forty nine ers. He signed it a little
bit earlier on Thursday, Alfred Collins, and it's not a
fully guaranteed deal.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Now he's the.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Forty third overall pick, a little bit lower in the
second round. He didn't get a fully guaranteed deal. But
I'm surprised. So we have what to my knowledge, four
second rounders who are signed. We have the top three
guys and the forty third overall pick.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
It's four guys.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's four of thirty two second round picks. Everybody's holding
out for guaranteed money. I'm surprised that we don't have
more of these players on a yearly basis, like banging
the table. I want fully guaranteed money as a second
round pick. We're finally seeing it this year, but I'm
surprised we haven't seen it in years past. You know,
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I just kept thinking, hey, the money slotted, Oh you're
the fifth overall pick boom. You're slotted to make this.
Oh you're the forty third overall pick boom. You're slotted
to make this. It's slotted.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
But you can argue over language.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You can argue over how much of the contract is
guaranteed or not. You can argue over everything. I'm surprised
we haven't had that more over the years. All right,
In any event.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I'm Brian though, filling in for Big Ben Mallord.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
This is not rebranded. It's still there. I'm not I'm
just merely a fill in. I should not get, you know,
third shift status. I should not get overnight late show status.
This is not I'm not changing my LinkedIn bio to
over weekday overnight host on Fox Sports Radio. That would
(15:39):
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just like these All Star game fill ins, these replacements,
these alternates, they shouldn't get All Star or Pro Bowl
status right there, That's what I say. Coming up next,
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I used to I used to know this song on guitar.
I used to play this one. I don't remember it anymore,
but you could play it. Yeah, I could play this one.
So a little fun fact hot tup time Machine for
you guys. So I moved out to La Gosh, this
was like one something like that. So I graduated college.
(17:35):
I've been playing guitar for half my life. So I'm like,
I'm moving to La gonna give guitar like a serious go.
And I was like when I moved there, I don't
know anybody. I don't know anyone, and so I I'm like,
you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go to
this guitar school for a semester. I have no plans
on graduating. I'm gonna go there. I'm gonna meet a
bunch of people and uh, you know, have a bass
(17:59):
maybe would band together the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
So that's what I did. And so it was Musicians
Institute was.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Right there off of Hollywood, at least it was, I
don't know if it's still there, and they'd make you.
It was really cool, like part of the whole curriculum.
You had to get on stage and perform these songs.
And they would give you a list of songs that
you could pick from each week, and you had to
perform X amount of times, and Sugar from System was
(18:26):
one of them. And so I had to learn that
song and perform it and do the whole thing nice.
So at one point, Coop, I knew Sugar no more.
I could relearn it.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
But if you're like, play it right now, prove it,
I'd be like, I don't remember, but I could relearn it.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Very good song, very good song by System that is
not one of their sucky songs, although I contend every
band has at least a handful of sucky songs, everyone,
every single one, without fail. I want to get to
the team that screwed up a player that was already
a little screwed up.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
In a second. But my girl Andrea is with us
over there in Berkeley. What is going on, Andrea? How
are things good? How are you doing pretty good?
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Yes? First things first, I wanted to mention that Mercury
just turned retrograde seventeenth to August eleventh.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Oh man, okay, all right, what are we in store
for here?
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Yeah? Well, delays and some communication confusions, some technology snaffoos,
and the first thing I thought of was the disappointment
of Caitlin Clarwhark not playing in the WNBA All Star Game.
I was really looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I know, can mercury and retrograde? Can it affect groin muscles?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Is that what happened with Canton over there?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Here's the thing and to your point, Mars is a
crucial planet for an athlete, the rules energy, assertion, and aggression.
She has Mars and Aries and Saturn just went into Aries.
Saturn was a skeletal system Brian bone, these Keith joints
and back.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
So when you have a Saturn aspect to your Mars,
it's once every twenty nine years, and it's really not
good for your health and your skeletal system. And you know,
I was hoping to montra delay not denial, but it
kind of took its toll. It's toe and Neptune is
(20:29):
also in Aries on her Mars, and that's kind of
like disappointing and disillusioning. So she's not in a really
good space, which is too bad because she's so inspiring.
She has five planets in Aquarius. She's January twenty two
oh two. She's a Youngian.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
See what I.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Think, Andrew, and you correct me if I'm wrong over here,
But I think mercury gets all the shine if I'm saturn,
if I'm Neptune, like all I hear about is murcro grade?
What about us in aries? What about the impact of that?
That's what I'd be saying if I was.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Saturned, right, I think your point is well taken. I mean,
the narrative is at the water cooler, people are talking
about mercury retrograde because that's like the most commonplace transit
that even people who are not astrologers are tuned into.
The outer planet transits are a little more complex, so
the regular layperson might not really be tuning into that,
(21:30):
but you know, for the popularity, I mean, it trends
on Twitter. You know, you just hear people who are
not necessarily tuned into astrology talking and complaining about mercury retrograde.
It's like, okay, we've gone mainstream.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, so I'll bring this back to music, okay, And
so mercury and retrograde. That would be like enter Sandman
from Metallica, right, like Monster Hit.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Everyone's aware of this.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It's still played in arenas and stadiums to this day.
That'll and Saturn and Arias and all that. That that's
more like my friend of Misery, which if you're you're
not huge on Metallica right now, Andrea, that's it's a
great song, but it's not a hit song. It's not
a song that the non diehards would most likely be
(22:21):
aware of. Is that what's happening with Mercury and Saturn?
I think that's a pretty good computer.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Yes, that's an excellent analogy. I've seen Metallica at you know,
Open for Giants games and stuff, and that said, I
think you captured the essence of it. You know, it's
a little you know, mercury retrograde is very commonplace. It says,
oh yeah, it must be mercury retrograde. And then you
know the nuances, the kind of fine points if you
(22:48):
alluded to with the other Metallica song, unless you're really
you know, tuned into the you know, other planets and
how Mars is a crucial plant for an athlete. It
kind of escapes you.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Gotcha, gotcha? That's very well as we could make it Escape.
There's a Metallica song called Escape. I think it's well,
we could we could make it that and really fine
tune the comparison.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Right, we could do that.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Now you're talking very.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Nice, well, Andrew. Always good to hear from you. I
hope you have a great morning and hope everything is
going well for you.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
The yes enjoying your show than Brian.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, thank you. There she is Andrea in Berkeley. Very nice.
So we got h you know, we got some music,
sports and uh you know all the uh you know, Mercury, Saturn,
all that astrological stuff as well.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Pretty good. I feel like we covered a lot of
ground there. What don't we have? What don't we have?
That is the question right there? We even have cats,
well we did.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Oreo the neighborhood cat. She had to leave after the
first hour. Sadly she has not returned just yet, Fingers crossed,
because sometimes she will. She'll head back two am, five am.
So maybe maybe she'll make it back before the show
is over.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I hope so.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
But yeah, Oreo, Oreo is in charge. I just live
in Oreo's world right now. She's that cool. Okay, Militia
feel free hit us up eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox. You're always welcome. Let me throw this quick
take at you where I saw this tweet from Adam Schefter.
It just simply says Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson is believed
(24:34):
to have recovered from his recent right shoulder setback as
the team prepares to report for training camp next week. Okay,
if Anthony Richardson does anything in the NFL, not just
this year, but ever, I'll be impressed.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'll be impressed.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I don't want to write the guy off completely, and
I'm not. I'm just telling you I'll be impressed because
so far the start has been god awful. It has
been freaking terrible when and we're only two years in,
so there might be some people that say, hey, Brian,
you know, he's a top five pick for a reason.
He does have some ability you never know if it's realized. Well,
(25:19):
all of that is true. I can't dispute that, but
what I would push back on is just how much
ground he has to cover to be a legitimate starting
quarterback in the NFL. His completion percentage last year was
forty seven point seven percent. Okay, he's sub not fifty percent,
(25:44):
he's sub forty eight percent. Okay, he's put up in
two years numbers that in some instances are worse than
Tim Tebow's quarterback numbers in the NFL coincidentally, both Florida
quarterbacks right there with a rich and Tebow. That's not
the company you want to be in. If you're Anthony Richardson,
(26:04):
you do not want to be shoulder to shoulder with
Tim Tebow in the stats department. But that's where he is.
And this is where I would start looking sideways at
the Colts. This is not just an Anthony Richardson thing.
This is a Colts thing. The Colts mismanaged this dude
so badly. I would compare it to that. I'm all
(26:25):
about comparisons tonight. The Colts. They're like the guy who
bought this high end sports car.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
This guy went to the dealership. He is like, I
saved my money.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I want a Lamborghini, give me it right now, here's
all the money.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And then he got it.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's back at home and instead of waiting a little bit,
this guy couldn't help himself. It's raining sideways outside, the
wind is going crazy, it's even hailing a little bit.
And this guy who just bought a Lamborghini is like,
I didn't I just keep it in the garage. We're
going out, We're going for a drive, right, it's not
(27:05):
the time to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Just wait, be patient.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
And the colts in their situation, they were not patient
with Anthony Richardson at all. Anthony Richardson in college, he
threw less than four hundred passing attempts. He had less
than four hundred passing attempts in college. You compare that
to some of these guys what they did in college.
(27:31):
Some of them are throwing for over a thousand, over
fifteen hundred, sometimes over two thousand passing attempts in college.
Anthony Richardson had less than four hundred. He had no experience,
and the Colts are like, throw him in, maybe he's
ready for life in the NFL. And shockingly, he was
(27:54):
not at all. They threw him in the deep end
and he didn't know how to sw whim. I don't
know why the Colts would do that. You know something
that blows my mind? Think about this, Patrick Mahomes, and
I could look at it real fast. Here, how many
we'll do a guessing game? How many passing attempts? I
don't know off the top of my head. How many
(28:15):
passing attempts do you think Patrick Mahomes had in college?
Is that Texas Tech how many? Okay, got the answer
right here. Yeah, this is really tipicly fast. I'm getting
a little bit better at this googling thing. So, Patrick Mahomes,
he threw one thousand, three hundred and forty nine passes
(28:36):
in college thirteen forty nine. That's almost a thousand more
passes than Anthony Richardson threw in college. Okay, And what
happened with those two quarterbacks? Patrick Mahomes sat the entire
rookie season, his entire rookie year in the NFL except
(28:59):
for the final game of the regular season. He started
that game. That's it against Coops Broncos. I'll never forget that.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And that's it. He started one game.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
As a rookie, even with almost over a thousand more
attempts in college than Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson started right away,
like Week five or something. He's starting games in the
NFL with no experience, a lack of passing attempts. That
was so dumb for the Colts to rush that guy.
(29:30):
He needed to sit, He needed to develop. He did
not need to be thrown into the deep end. That
was such a bad approach by the Colts and now
you've seen what's happened the first two years.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
He's been banged up like crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
That's not the Colts fault, but he is a disaster
as a quarterback. And he's got a bright quarterback mind
in Shane Stikeens. Shane Stikeen was a former quarterback at
a lower level, but he knows what he's doing. It's
a good play call, bright offensive mind, knows the quarterback position.
And Steiken's been able to do nothing so far because
(30:08):
they threw him in too early and he just wasn't
ready to swim. And I feel bad for Anthony Richardson
to a degree because I think he would have had
a better shot to at least be in a better
position to be further developed, to not be a train
wreck at this point of his NFL career. I think
the Colts have a lot to do with that. I
(30:30):
don't think a rich has crushed it by any means,
but I think the Colts have been bad for him, bad, bad, bad,
terrible approach. Let me go to Gary in Oakland. He's
got something on All Star. Oh no, Gary's gone?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I love the All Star topic. Was he pushing back Coop?
Do you know if he was fighting back. Was he
fighting against logic?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
No, he was basically saying that the All Star Game
is it's a TV show, that it's about all pros.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Like that's that's a bad take. Come on, Gary, gotta
do better than that. Like that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
He's partially right, Okay, I'll meet him part of the way.
It is a TV show. It is for entertainment. But
where I completely disagree, that's not all it is. It's
the prestige. It's the acknowledgment of being known as an
All Star. That's a big deal. Like I played the
(31:29):
audio of Kobe Bryant's farewell tour and they're announcing him
as seventeen time All Stars.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
See, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Though, Yeah, I feel like and so I agree with
him in a sense, it used to be a big deal.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
It still is, I don't think. I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Absolutely, it's still a big deal. You're still going to
be recognized like that. They still do it. I still
hear it to this day.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, but anybody who knows sports knows it's not a
big deal anymore because of things like like what you're
talking about with Miss Rosy and Tyler Huntley and other
people that end up on All Star teams because nobody
wants to do the All Star Game anymore. It's not
even just injury replacements anymore. There's a lot of times
(32:12):
in the NFL, right where the Pro bowlers they just
don't want to do it.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Well, listen, I think that it's case by case. I
agree with you, like generally speaking, it's been watered down
quite a bit for everything that you mentioned, But I
think where it's case by case. If you're a two
time All Star, I mean, we got to read the
fine print on that, right, Like were you on a
sucky team and you were the one MLB representative from
(32:39):
that sucky team and that's how you got in there? Right?
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Like?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Are you a replacement All Star and that's how you
got the status? Or are you like one of the greats?
Are you a legit like Clayton Kershaw?
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Well, I know he just had the exemption as a
bad example.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
But well no, but I'll see that's exactly you bring
up a good point though, because look, I mean, obviously
when you say seventeen time, also you know you're talking
about one of the great ones. But even those guys, right,
And I hate to say it probably even Kobe, Yeah,
you're right right by the end, sure probably shouldn't have
(33:16):
been in it, but he sure gets in it because
of his career.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I remember Yao Ming had played like five games or
something and was hurt and he made Yeah. Yeah, so yeah,
you do have to read some fight in print from
time to time. But I think, you know, we don't
have to look sideways at Otani and Judge like they
they're somehow getting charity for getting to the We know
that they've completely deserved it, you know what I mean.
(33:41):
So that's my point is it doesn't water down the
credentials for everybody automatically, right, Like there are some guys
where you know for sure they were easily no doubt
All Stars, and so it's not watered down for them,
I don't think. But yeah, for the dude that's like, hey,
I'm a two time All Star, he might want to
check into that, you know, check the legitimacy of those
(34:04):
two All Star nods where you just the you know
the Grammy Phil like seat filler guy, is that what
you were?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Or you're a real All Star?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I just man, I think we should not give replacements
the distinction of being quote unquote All Stars. Think about that,
like Jacob Mezowski as a fill in, fill in, fill
and filling like well down the list, replacement, alternate All Star.
He's on the same footing. He's classified on the same
(34:35):
footing as show Hey Otani and Aaron Judge. That's the
dumbest thing ever. He's started five games.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Like, he's not on the same level as those guys,
but he has the same distinction as being a twenty
twenty five All Star. That's ridiculous, but that's what they're doing.
I guess the dumble UNBA is gonna do the same
thing with Caitlin Clark being out and I don't get it. Hey, listen, man,
(35:07):
it is it's for entertainment. It's partially a TV show.
I have no problem with that. Hey have Jacob Mazarowski
in the All Star Game.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Invite him.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Those players are gonna say, yes, Joe, don't give him
the classification of being an All Star because he's not.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
He wasn't voted in. He's just a replacement. He's a
fill in. That's what he is.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
That's what all the replacements were exactly that they were
replacements for the real All Stars, so the replacements shouldn't
get All Star status.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Man, I love. We were just going right back to
the well back.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
It's like that, Uh, we're Damar Derozen shooting a mid
range shot.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
We're just going right back to over and over.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
All.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Right, we'll turn the page from this.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Coming up, Oh, Coop, I've got a poker story for you,
and that's not all. I've got poker audio for you
as well. If you're a Cards fan, you're gonna want
to stay tuned for this. I'm Brian though filling in
for Big Ben Mallor. This is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
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Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
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looking forward, I got an assortment of NFL topics for you.
At the top of the hour, but right now, I've
got poker for you.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
So here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
So, Michael the Grinder Miss Rocky, he won the World
Series of Poker Main Event. Koopy won is eighth World
Series of Poker bracelet. He's tied for fifth all time,
and he eliminated the last guy on Wednesday afternoon heads
up Poker MS Rocky. He wins ten million dollars. That's amazing.
(37:13):
The World Series main event had a little over nine
seven hundred players, so we're in the neighborhood of ten
thousand players. The prize pool was over ninety million dollars.
The guy that came in second place got six million bucks.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Not bad.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Not bad.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
As the runner up, I would take it. I would
absolutely take that as well.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Now, Coop, there's a story that's gonna hurt your heart,
and there are a couple of stories that I think will.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Make you smile. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
So the first thing that I think will hurt your
heart's a pivotal hand on Tuesday. Okay, everything ended on Wednesday.
We're getting down to the nitty gritty on Tuesday, okay.
And so he had Miss Rocky. He's in a pivotal
hand with the guy who finished in second Placenock. I
think his name is uh huh so John Wosnock. He
(38:10):
is not a professional player. He's gone up against the
grinder who is a pro, and so Miss Rocky he
went all in. Miss Rocky had ace king the non
Professionalsnock he had pocket kings. Okay, big slick ace king
against pocket kings. Miss Rocky spiked an ace on the river.
(38:34):
That's a little piece of you dies if you're the
guy with cowboys over there, you know Wisnock. That was
a big shift in chip stack right there. So that
has a big pivotal hand. How about this. This will
make you smile if you're in the grinder shoes Coop.
Good start on Wednesday, first hand of the day, he
(38:55):
knocked somebody out. Second hand of the afternoon he knock
another player. That's a crazy start. Wow.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Here that guy was calling with he called it ten
to six.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Oh wow, I didn't realize that.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah. The second guy he knocked out had ten six
suited and the grinder was the one that raised raised
the guy all in and he called him. I don't
know what he was doing, but they were both they
were both very short stacked now.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Here real fast.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
The final hand, I think Miss Rocky should owe at
least a million dollars, should be a minimum half a
million dollar fine. Here final hand, Miss Rocky has ten
three of clubs wasnock. He's got the ace of spades
and the nine of diamonds wasnock. He has top pair,
he's got aces and nines. Miss Rocky. After the turn,
(39:45):
he's got a club flush. Okay, and Miss Rocky, I'll
play the audio for you on the other side. I
don't have time for it right here. But Miss Rocky
didn't know the situation at all, Like what the river
card about to be? Flip ms Rocky's like, we want baby,
it's over.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
It's like the other guy could he could river an
ace or a nine and have a full boat and win.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
And Miss Rocky thought he was good. He thought he
already had it.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I think in that situation, when you win ten million
dollars significant fine, he's what I say, He's gonna be
cursed if he doesn't pay pay for that slip up.
I'll get to the audio. And also, this player thinks
something unprecedented will happen in the NFL
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