December 30, 2024 • 39 mins
Bernie Fratto is joined by Jeff Dawson of ECSI in Boston to talk about Bill Belichick at North Carolina and what the future holds for him. Also, another edition of What Kind of Brand New Fool Are You, What My Name, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, that's right, you heard.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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we've come to that juncture in the show.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You know you love it.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You can't leave with that out the dance sensation sweep
to the nation, you see, because as you know, You'gi
Berra once said, you can observe a lot by watching.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
And while we do that, we do that.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We do it on the Bernie fratter Show, and we
do it occasionally when I'm in for Ben Maller. You see,
because around this great land of ours, from sea to
oily sea, people like to perhaps engage in odd ball activity.
Now at times it can be innocuous and silly and stupid,
not very smart, but other times it can be you know,
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far more serious and egregious, can even run a foul
the law and can even start.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
To land you in jail.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
But anyway you slice it any way, to characterize it
any way, describe it. Yeah, these behaviors that people engage
in always leave us scratching our head and asking ourselves,
what kind of brand new fool are you?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
What kind of brand new fool are you?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So this one isn't actually recent, but because it crosses
a couple of the spheres that are so weird and stupid,
I figured that we would start to ring in the
new year with one that happened earlier in a year,
but nonetheless still is relevant when it comes to the
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brand new Fool franchise. Look starts out, we don't have
this idiot's name, and why you would you have designs
on blowing something up is beyond me. And why you
would have designs on blowing up the Hollywood Sign is
beyond me. But this would be bomber idiot allegedly tried
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to pull off this doctor Evil with the iconic Hollywood sign. Again,
this is not reason been a back, you know, not
only in terms of his ridiculously wacky demands, but his methodology.
You see, Apparently word got out a while ago that
some idiot called the Hollywood Police Department threatening to blow
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up the famous La landmark to smithereens with pipe bombs
unless he was paid wait for it, a wopping ten
thousand dollars, Are you kidding me? But here's where it
gets weird, Okay, because as the report goes on, the
LAPD checked it out, found no real credible threat, and
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apparently there was some sort of investigation, but I don't
even know if there's even been any arrests. And by
the way, the Hollywood Sign is iconic, it's always under
twenty four hour seven, you know, twenty four to seven
video surveillance, so it's always watched, and there's also all
kinds of safety measures if anybody tries to tamper with it.
But it's no easy target, okay. But look, nonetheless, let's
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get to the point of the story. So you have
to be an idiot to want to blow anything up
I think and damage property that would you know, put
people in jeopardy, put yourself in jeopardy. And you got
to be a bigger idiot to want to blow up
the Hollywood Sign. And you got to be a bigger
idiot to call the police department and ask for ten
thousand dollars unless you know your demands are met.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But hell, have you even gotten to the best part?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Did you know there's a place called Hollywood, Florida? Also,
and this moron dialed the Hollywood Police Department in Florida,
threatening to blow up the Hollywood Sign. And all I
can say is, whatever this unnamed person is, whoever you are?
What kind of brand new fool are you?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Oh boy, Well, now that we have another rousing edition
of what kind of brand new fool? You're in the books? Ready, team,
because now that allows us to segue into our second
favorite bit, What my Name?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And here we go, Cooper Lorena?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
All right, I suck at this game. I don't know anything.
Can we do, like like pop Star edition? Like what
shaved your head? In two thousand and six?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay, what I shaved my head in two thousand and six?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
What my name?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Who owe me?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Big me?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Pig me?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Lorena Britney Spears, Hey, all right, that's.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Gonna build some momentum.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That's gonna build some momentum.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I think it was two thousand and six.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Isn't she married to Patrick Mahomes. Oh no, that's Britney Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Close though they do look kind of similar.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Fair enough, all right, I still am the all time
leading rusher in college football. All right, and uh, Lorena,
I will here's a clue.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I told you.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
My wife says, Bernie, you don't give clues, so you know,
figure it out. And I have his last name coincides
with the famous chicken franchise.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
What my name.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Kevin Foster?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Very close? Oh, Foster Farms.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, like Foster Farms.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Right, you forgot the tick of your friend.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah I did.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I was thinking too hard.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I'm sorry, or as I say in Canada, I'm sorry,
I wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yep, but it was it was.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It was even my clues suck. Okay, so still the
all time leading rusher in college football. Coop, you're gonna
get this? What my name? I don't know if I'm
not give you a clue. You went to the same
college as Doug Gottlieb Oklahoma State played for the Lions
many many years. Oh, Harry Sanders, Bam, No cooking, No,
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we're cooking.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And the reason I bring it up is because.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Ashton gent of Boise State could actually, you know, surpass
that record in the next few days. So we shall see.
All right, I thought what you said, Yeah, I thought
that was Julia McLaughlin, Barry Sanders twenty twenty six years,
twenty years, I believe Oh in a season. Okay, that's
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on me.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I did.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay, Yes, good for you, Coopy.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I didn't get her, why exactly?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Good night the way you gotta just run the game.
You have been a great audience. All right, we'll try
it again. I invented this game. I've only been doing
it three years on the Bernie Frattle Show. Clearly I
have a few holes in my game which are easily
being exposed. Okay, in the history of the National Football League,
I have passed for more yards cumulatively in my first
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five seasons than any other quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And here's a clue.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
His first name is the same first name by that kid, Timberlake, Lorena.
What my name?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Oh? Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You got just three for three?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Better?
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Oh my gosh, I did it? How did I do it?
Could it even help me?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Coup thoughts? I am impressed. We're moving along.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I am a rookie tight end in the National Football League,
and I now own the record of the most yards
accumulated by a rookie tight end in National Football League history.
Justin Cooper what my name?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Rock Bowers?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yes, can you at.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Least for ten? Like you don't know, for like two seconds?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
So smart, I'll try next time. All right, I'm gonna
ask Coop this one first only because this I want
to see if Coop can get this one. All right? Well,
so Brock Bowers is now the all time leading rookie
tight end in terms of accumulating the most yards is
rookie season. But he had to break somebody's record. He
broke my record, Coop, what my name?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Here's a clue he was.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
He was also a coach of the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
When they won the Mike Ditka. Oh, now you're just
showing off.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Noo.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I didn't even need that.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Damn. I don't know that I would have got that.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Actually, well you got it, you got it.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Congratulations Coop.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
As an NFL quarterback in my career, I now have
to Hey, no, the keep the aplaus going.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I didn't mean to cut.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Into all right. Yeah, now I'm speaking out of turn.
I have been as an NFL quarterback in my career,
I have now been sacked more than any other NFL
quarterback in history, a total of five hundred and.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Sixty six times.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I was mentioned earlier on this show, and they just
did a Netflix special on me. That's Lorena. What my
name think?
Speaker 5 (09:45):
I know this one?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yes, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
At first, I was thinking it was going to be
that guy who keeps on getting knocked out recently to A.
But no, it's the other guy. I thought I forgot
his name though it is got it.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It's the other guy. It's the other guy, Aaron Rodgers. A.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah, it's the guy in the green.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I knew that.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
And he's done right.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Uh no, not yet, not not yet, not yet. He's
gonna be like Freddy Krueger. I think he's going away
for it. Just think, Aaron Rodgers. I don't want to know.
I don't you know. What's what?
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Am I?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
You know?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
He's yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well yeah, okay, so, uh Travis Hunter just won the
Heisman Trophy. Okay, Colorado very well deserving. Well, here's a
trivia question. I'm the only college football player in history
to win the Heisman Trophy twice. Coop, I know you're
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going to get this one. It was back in the
seventies and he played for Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
What my name?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh, he's got the same last name as a former
ESPN guy who got fired and quarterback.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Robert the Third. He's got the same last name as that.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Oh, I don't I don't know what I know it's
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm the only college football player to win the Heisman
Trophy twice. My last name is Griffin.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
What is.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You know what? Just for the creativity, the former Clipper
Blake Griffin, it's actually Archie Griffin.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But I think the judges are going to allow.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So we can keep her on defeating street going now, yeah,
all right, last one, Yes, sir, here we go. But
you're gonna get this one. You're gonna get this one.
The Raiders have just won back to back games. Break
up the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
The Raiders.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, the last time the Raiders won back to back games,
I was their head coach, Justin Cooper. What my name?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
It's a dirty trick here going to get this.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But if you really think you'll get it, is it
Antonio Piers It is Antonio Pearence. And I think Antonio
Pearance is the coach down. If you recall, the Raiders
won back to back games in Week fifteen and Week
sixteen last year, and I think It was that type
of performance at the end of the year that really
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sort of enabled Antonio appears to be brought back.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And people dont think I'm crazy. I don't think they
should fire him.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
The crap he's had to put up this year, he
didn't really have a quarterback, done that much of a roster.
He's maintained his dignity, he's maintained his poise. Give the
man a chance to do something. I think I think
he'd be wrong to fire him. But that's just my
thoughts speaking of another coach that all of a sudden,
now I thought he You know, if if someone would
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have said seven weeks ago, this guy's coming back next year,
I would have said, yeah, you got a better chance
of Led Zeppelin re recording the Gilligan's Island theme song
and Blake Griffin singing lead, then this guy coming back.
But all of a sudden, there's all kinds of buzz.
Now this guy might be back next year. Is it
good or is it bad? I'll weigh the pros and
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cons coming up. Oh, by the way, Bill Miller has disappeared.
He's got nothing to say at this point. So Bill,
we'll try to find you one last time before the show.
Maybe he's going on a walk about with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Miller
Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Oh boy, we've had a Bill Miller sighting. Just got
off the phone with Bill Miller.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He claims he's traveling around the world. I said, well,
what are you doing, Bill? Where are you? He says, well,
I'm in Denmark. I said, well, what are you doing
in Denmark? Bill? He says, well, I'm visiting the Vatican. Bill,
What the hell you talking about? Bill? The the Vaticans
in Rome? He said, no, I know, I know what's
in Rome. But they're doing so well in Rome they
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decided to open up one in Denmark. I don't know
about that, Bill Miller. Man, this has not been a
good Bill Miller knight. But we'll have to forgive you.
Bernie Froud is sitting in for Ben Maller Company line
from the tarat dot Com Studios here in Las Vegas.
Coming up at about seven minutes. We're gonna take you
out to Boston. My guy, Jeff Dawson who's going on
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top of the Bill Belichick story for.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
About fourteen months.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Obviously, there's been a fork in the road because he
ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Except for North Carolina. I don't even know what's gonna
happen there.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So we'll win with Jeff and get his thoughts and
maybe he'll tell some things we don't know. All Right.
I mentioned that I thought Antonio appears to the Raiders
should be allowed to return, and I mean that all
of a sudden. Now there's all sorts of buzz in
the Cowboys' locker room that they want Mike McCarthy back
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in Dallas. Now is that a good idea or a
bad idea?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
H Now, I got no beef with Mike McCarthy. I
just don't want him coaching my team. You see what
he does in the postseason. He looks like Barney Rebel
wander in the sidelines. Yea, I at the mall parking lot,
who can't figure out where the hell he parked his car.
It's happened too many times. So if Jerry Jones really
has designs on winning another super Bowl, you're not gonna
do with Mike McCarthy. You're not gonna do it with
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him and Dak forget it. No way, no how forget it?
Not up in your ah no no, But there's pros
and cons. Okay, the offense has actually done a little
better under Cooper Rush that it did under Dak And
I brought those numbers up there on that on my show.
And they don't have a bunch of blue chip weapons anymore. Right,
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McCarthy's actually developed players like ric O'Donnell and Cavante Turpin.
That's considered a a positive sign. He hired Mike Zimmer
and it took a while, but Zimmer's figured it out. Dallas'
defense has improved after a shaky started the season of
Dallas defense is not playing at a really fair high level.
And I know they got just it just got blown
out by the Eagles on Sunday. But there are a
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lot of folks that believe Mike McCarthy has done enough
to justify bringing him back. And you know, unless the
Cowboys think they can land a big fish like Ben Johnson,
which I don't think he wants to go there. I
think he wants to go to the Bears. You say
to yourself, all right, it's the devil, you know, versus
the devil.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You bring back McCarthy and Zimmer with an upgraded roster,
could that be a winning combination? No, they're not gonna
win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I just said that.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Don't ask again, and nothing changes with respect that McCarthy
and his in high leverage moments in playoff games. His
late game decision making has been brutal, right, and the
Cowboys didn't play any big games this year, But how
McCarthy has performed in those big game situations in the
past is ultimately how he's been judged. I think. I
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get it. McCarthy's done a good job of getting the
Cowboys to continue battling in spite of the rampid in
injuries until at least Sunday, so you give him some credit.
The locker room could have easily tuned him out. The
season could have been even uglier than it was before
this year. I get it. The Cowboys had three straight
twelve win seasons, and the National Football League those regular
seasons at in fifty cents. It gets you a cup
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of coffee, Burger Chef. It's all about the postseason. They've
underachieved in those three postseasons. That looms large, and I
get the injuries are beyond McCarthy's control, and Jerry Jones
didn't properly address the running back position. You think it
would have mattered. They could have got Derek Henry. You
think it really going to have mattered. I mean, Baltimore
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was already good before Derrick Henry got there. Nothing away
from Derrick Henry. Stud But where I threw a little
bit of a flag is all right? You're giving McCarthy's
flowers over the last six seven weeks when it could
have been worse, but somehow it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
What about the first ten weeks? Okay?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I think the way I see it is this is
as far as the Cowboys are ever gonna go under
Mike McCarthy. Three twelve win seasons, nothing in the playoffs
this year. Fine, it's a mulligan. So at Jerry Jones is,
at eighty two years old, is saying, I'll what the
hell I give up? I'm never gonna win the Super
Bowl without Jimmy Johnson's players. That ship sailed back in
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nineteen ninety five, and I'm gonna repeatedly fall short in
the postseason. But I want Mike McCarthy because he's a happy,
go lucky guy and the players like him and they
respect him, and he doesn't have the red ass.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And you know he listens.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
If Mike McCarthy I tell him what to do, he
does it right. It's like the old joke, are yo,
yes man? No, I'm not a yes man When my
boss tells me no, I say no too. Okay, that's
Mike McCarthy. But if Jones truly wants to win another
Super Bowl, he needs to turn over his talent acquisition
duties to somebody else. Find a stronger, better field general,
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find a more innovative guy who's going to perhaps find
a different ceiling that the team may or may not have.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And I have zero faith.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I have zero faith in Dak Prescott anyway anyway, So
I don't give a damn who you bring in. But
you know, maybe you say to yourself, you're bringing in
newcomer to replace Mike McCarthy with fewer sins, fewer scars.
It might inspire a little bit more external excitement, But
what is really the driving force in making the decision
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on a head coach. Only Jerry Jones knows that. Okay,
there is some merit in retaining McCarthy. But will Jerry
Jones ever win a Super Bowl under Mike McCarthy. No,
don't ask me again. Let's go out to Angry Bill
in Jacksonville. What's up, Angry Bill? How you been there, buddy?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I want to give you credit.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I want to give you credit, man, because last July
I joked about the Pittsburgh Pirates maybe making a run
with Paul Schemes. He said, yeah, see me in September. Uh,
take your victory, lab Bill. I was dead wrong on that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Come on, it's a Pittsburgh Pirates. Anybody could have said that.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
But yeah, but you did, Bill on national radio and
I I, yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Some people get you fooled. But I wanted to wish
everybody a happy New Year. I was surprised to hear
Lorraina and Cooper working, and I almost fell off my chair.
But it's nice to see if they were working. I
want to I want to go over well one quick thing.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, go right ahead and you But go ahead, Angry Billy.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I'm want the static that the Yankees did not sign Soto.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Oh nice, go ahead, you got the floor, Bud.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It's going to be your percentage of falling apart. Like
most big time contracts. Some don't, but the majority of them,
probably seventy percent of them do. And the Yankees ure lucky.
They're not going to get the guy. They went out
and spent the money on where they should pitching. Give
me the pitching for four years, and their at least
hopefully working in that direction. The other thing I wanted
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to talk to you about. You were talking about tarts. Yeah,
weld one little coincidental thing you're talking about. The guy
had an idea and he made a fortune with it.
Do you know the bubblegum chew?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yes, very much so as I used to dip and
chew tobacco. Go ahead, are there Angry Bill?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Are you going to hear nobody?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I'm here? Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Bill?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Did we lose Bill? Bill?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
He's still there, Bill, I.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Can hear you, Bill.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Coop?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Take Bill offline and tell him we'll take us call back.
I want to get to our guest, Jeff Austin. I
hate to have angry Bill cut off. He was talking
about big Lee chew. When we finish up with Jack, Jeff,
we'll we'll take Bill back but I don't want to
bring in a gentleman. Go ahead and let him know
what's going on. Coop, I don't know what happened there.
Let's welcome in a gentleman. ECI Sports invest out of Boston,
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a good friend of mine, and we were all over
the He was all over the Bill Belichick situation last year,
guaranteeing it would be last year in New England. But listen,
none of us saw, you know, Bill Belichick inning up
in North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So what the hell happened? What's going on here? Jeff?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And this book feels like it's missing a chapter. Tell
us what you think you know. And let's not forget
to talk about that goofy clause in his contract if
he leaves before June first.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Good morning, Bernie, great to be here. Yes, we did
not have Bill Belichick going to UNC on our bingo card.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Yeah, my first impression, Ernie, it reminded me of the
Blues brothers Jake and Elwood wanted to bring the gang
back together, and we were blown away when we heard this.
A four hundred page documents sent to UNC with all
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everything that he needed and his game plan on what
the process was gonna be just blindsided.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
He threw some feelers out there to the NFL, even
to the Jets, and you could see right through the
tea leaves it wasn't gonna happen again in the NFL.
So made a few phone calls and presto magic UNC
bringing the gang back. Good good friend and colleague, mister
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Mike Bombardi from Vison as his GM. But the real
thing that sticks out to us, what we thought was
Steve bringing the son Steve, and and the real fly
in the ointment is when Bill leaves, not if when
Bill leaves, Steve is the coach in waiting. And so
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that's what really stuck out to us, and which I
think he was getting his name back into the ranks
to have a good first year at you would see,
but really setting up his son, Steve Berning.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Okay, fair enough. I accept that he got a five
year contract, only the first three year guarantee. Now, Jeff,
you you know you around the odds industry for a living.
What odds do you give that Bill Belichick's there the
full three years?
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Odds I give he's there. I would say probably around
twenty twenty two percent. I mean, his whole goal I
would assume is to get in there. Let's get a
nine to ten win season. If he has a miracle season,
get to the you know, to the final twelve, and
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get them into the playoffs. The ACC is not doing
too well already in the bowl games. He's already out
on the recruiting pat He's brought a couple of guys over.
I mean, if he could have the perfect script, get
him to the playoffs, everything's going great, and then you know,
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there's seven or eight other openings. The real tough part
is who wants to pay the ten million dollar bio,
which would have to be himself. Well, who's going to
wait till June first for the one million dollars? You've
already missed the draft, the combines and everything. So if
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a team's going to take a chance and try to
save some money, it's going to be after June first, right,
So let's.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Hone right in on that stipulation in the contract. If
Belichick terminates the deal without cause. For instance, if you
wanted to leave for an NFL job before June first,
UNC would be a ten million. However, that amount drops
to one million after June first. What's the moral of
the story here. Why the hell would Belichick put that
in the contract if he doesn't even have in this
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consciousness that he.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
May leave the school before he's ever coached a single game.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Otherwise, that kind Jeff, that contract stipulation doesn't need to
be in there, unpacked us for us.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Exactly. So if you read through the four hundred page
mumbo jumbo or however we want to feel this onion back,
it was all to set Steve up. It was all
to make sure the sun is set up in a
coaching gig now at college, now at UNC, and Bill
has made enough money where if someone came knocked in
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this February of March, he kind of checked faster than
whatever to say, hey, by the way, here's a ten
million thanks. My son's got it from here, and you're
all set up. So Bill smart guy, and he's got
his name back there. He's saying all the right things,
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U n C. I mean, you know, if it was
noted Dame, if it was maybe all right. You know,
the locals are just laughing back here because they don't
even have a story. I mean, the locals have a
hard enough time cover in BC, which is rate forty
five minutes from where I am right now, Bernie then
trying to dig up some dirt on Bill and the
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North Carolina targets.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
So I'm guessing you're not buying the narrative that it
was a dream of his because his dad went to
UNC and his first words were beat Duke. That was
all a bunch of Michigan gos. That was the stuff
that started to really piss me off. Let me digress,
digress for just a second.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
San.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
He's looking to maybe get a nine to ten win season.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
What is the measure of success for Bill Belichick as
it pertains to whatever his tenure is at North Carolina?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Is it playoffs or bust? What is it?
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Re Establish Bill Belichick?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
So it's not even about North Okay, go ahead, I'm sorry,
go ahead, re.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Establish the name and the brand of Bill Belichick. The
details come. I already heard Mike Lombardi talking about this.
You know, if you want to succeed in the NFL,
if you want to be able to be ahead of
the game, well you want to come to North Carolina.
(28:14):
Look at Bill, Look at his six rings, Look what
he has done in the NFL. So he's trying to
use his name to bring people to you and see,
this is the path now to the NFL. It's not
the targels. It's not go beat Duke.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
My dad was here.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
If you want to go to the NFL, you go
through the tar heels and Bill Belichick and the team
that we're putting together and the process.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So, if I understand you correctly, and I believe I do,
this is all basically self serving, that Bill Belichick is
purely using North Carolina as a way station and segue
to get back to the NFL. Correct Is that basically
what this is all about.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
That is and one A is to make sure he
set up his son into coaching. That is one B.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
All right, So I just asked you what the odds
were he stays three years? One of the odds Bill
Belichick leaves right before or right after June first, there's
going to be seven NFL openings.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
What are the chances something happens?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Remember he was the Jets coach for one day back
in two thousand, right, remember that? So I'm not predicting this.
I don't know anything anymore. What are the odds you
put on Bill Belichick not even coaching one year at
North Carolina?
Speaker 6 (29:36):
I would say that is slim to none as well.
He read a good good He read the room real well.
Don't forget he only got one interview last year with
was there of seven or eight openings last year? He
got the one interview in Atlanta, nothing else. And there's
going to be plenty of opportunities this year. And there
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was some teams that could have already came calling. So
that's why they jump to UNC. Well before the season's over.
This year, the writing was.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
On the wall.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Hey, Bill, you're.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Not going to get an opportunity this year. So I
would say it would be less than ten percent, Bernie,
unless someone was desperate. Now, the two big names are
one in your nectar the woods, Ben Johnson, and the
real heart name is Mike Brabele. And then after that,
you know there's five or six other heart names. Where
do they go and who do they get filled by?
(30:29):
But Bill read the room real real well. Here it
says it's not happening again this year. Let's re establish
the Bill Belichick brand, Let's bring the gang back together,
and let's have a good year at UNC. And the
big thing in my mind is let's make sure my
son Steve is set.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Up all right.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Well said, and we're going to continue, obviously to watch
this last question. I just got about a minute. What
odds do you give that Bill Belichick at some point
is gracing the NFL headline sidelines as a head coach.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
A great question, Bernie.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I'm going to put it at fifty to fifty. I
think that's right where it's at.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Bernie, you just took the words right out of my mouth.
I had fifty to fifty as well. I think the
plan is, let's have a great year. Maybe let's tiptoe
and get close to the ACC championship, maybe the final twelve.
That might be enough to get two or three interviews
next year. You know, a seven to win season isn't
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going to float the needle for anyone in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
All right, Jeff, go back to your drawing board. We'll
talk to you New Year's morning. Handicap that triple header, pal, Thanks.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Thank you, Bernie.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Have a great, great day, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Austin E Ci've connected to the Bill Belichick thing, and listen,
I think you break up an excellent pointment.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
A lot of this is self serving me set up, Steve.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
You may give it a little bit of a go
at Earth Carolina try to win a game. But this
is all designed to maybe get back to the NFL.
At least that says a painting coop to is Angry Bill.
Still there coup fin any chance? All right, let's welcome
you back in Angry Bill. I don't know what the
hell happened with this goofy technology we have, but you
are about to make a point, and let's give you
a chance to make your point.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I don't know where I left off, but you talk
about this Wan Soto thing. That's not where I want
to talk about. But I'm glad. I've been the Yankee
fan since nineteen sixty and I'm glad the Yankees didn't
get them. They got better the things to do with
their money, and you know, the high priced signings seventy
percent of the time don't work out. So I'm glad
(32:39):
they didn't get him. We don't need his number twenty
two and we don't need him. One thing I wanted
to get onto do is close to your pop caart things. Yes,
do you know who invented the bubblegum chew? The shredded
bubblegum chew?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
And then I'm very familiar with the product and I
know that the idea originated by I think Toolon's relievers
that were in a bullpen that found some marketing guy
that know how to do it. Uh, And and I
think it's the story is very easily found Angry Bill
by googling. It's certainly out there, but it all originated
from an innocuous conversation. But I think a couple of
(33:15):
Oaklaan's relievers sitting in a bullpen, and they took it
to a guy that knew how to how to make
it a reality.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Well, the person that took it and made it to
reality and sold it to Wriggly, the Jim Bally.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Well that part, Yes, he's the one that made it reality.
But he had a marketing Yes, that's outstanding, great Jim
Bouton knowledge and I didn't know that. But he didn't
do it by himself. He had a marketing team.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Oh yeah, he was not by himself. But he was
the one who had pushed it and got it done
and got it through. And I played with him and
against him. I was good friends with him, and he
tragically died from a disease. But he was a fantastic
guy and he was the one who pushed it and
got it sold to Wriggly good Stuff man. Yeah, higher salary,
(34:02):
his higher salary. I'm at the time of the Yankees.
He's twenty four thousand dollars. He sold it to them
for millions.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, of course his book. Of course, let's face it,
his book A Ball four is just legendary. Oh my god,
it's legendary. And by the way, we keep calling it bubblegums.
You remember they called it big League Chew. I'm not
sure who came up with that name. That might have
been Bowden who came up with that the actual.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Day, so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
But all right, Angry Bell, tell you what, man, I'm
gonna be back on heading into New Year's Day, a MPM.
New Year's Eve, heading into New Year's Day. I feel
free to call back and we'll pick up where we
left off. Okay, Angry Bill, ok, Angry Bill, Ladies and gentlemen.
And I gotta give him credit. He said the Pittsburgh
(34:52):
Pirates ain't going nowhere. He turned out to be no
Stredamus on that, and I turned out to be no
stra dumbass. Not so much that I thought they would,
But the way Paul Skemes was going and I thought,
you know, in this day and age and Major League Baseball,
if you're five hundred on Labor Day, you're in the
playoff hunt. What the hell do I know? Like I said,
(35:13):
I'm no high school drop but I went the full
six years. But you know, I got a few holes
in my game to Coming up, we wrap up the
Ben Mallor Show, and I want to share something else
regarding the NFL quote unquote rejecting Bill Belichick. There's a
former NFL quarterback whose dad was also an NFL quarterback,
(35:34):
who has been pretty active in the media and is
a regular on some Fox shows who had a very
caustic commentary about why he is actually not shocked that
the NFL didn't hire Bill Belichick, at least to this point.
We hire why it happened, and that he will not
(35:56):
be shocked if there's a certain income, a certain outcome
at North Carolina. I'll bring all that mouthful to you.
Coming up, I'm Bernie Fraddle sitting for Ben Maller, coming
to line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Diirect
dot Com Studios.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Fradtle Show,
The Ben Maller show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
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Speaker 2 (36:29):
Well, Bill Miller didn't like my Denmark comments, so he's
left the room. We'll see if we can rally him
on New Year's Eve. I'll be back on these airwaves
new Year's Eve, bringing.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
In the new year.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Signing out at eleven pm Pacific time on New Year's Eve.
Before going further, I want to thank my broadcast team
Lorrain and Coop.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Great job.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
As always. This is my twenty first Ben Maller Show.
My name is Bernie Frattle. I'm sitting in for the
great Ben Maller and New Year's Eve will be my
twenty second Ben at Meller Show. In addition to the
shows you can hear that I host on Friday and
Saturday night on the network beginning of LEMP in Pacific
to the Bernie Fratto Show. All right, Bill Belichick would
continue to be a polarizing figure. Didn't show up. I'm
(37:13):
damn it. I meant to ask Jeff this. He didn't
even show up at the North Carolina Bowl game against Yukon.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't why you would said
he want to be distraction, Bill, You're already distraction.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Come on, Dan Mullen, the new UNLV head coach, showed
up the bowl game here and they were glad to
see him.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I don't know, man, I don't know how to read
that one. But what does it matter. There's no point
in trying to read Bill Belichick's mind, or Bill Miller's
mind for that matter. But Chris Simms wasted no time
pulling no punches, basically saying the reason that Bill Belichick
was quote rejected by the NFL is that most of
the people he treated like quote ish for twenty years yep.
(37:54):
During his weekly appearance on a podcast with Stu Gottz,
he said, quote do I believe he's gonna stay there?
Absolutely not? Sim said, I mean the bio tells you everything.
Starting this June, he can be bought out of the
couch for couch cushion change for NFL owners. I mean,
come on, a million dollars. Bilichick's got a million dollars
in cash he could put in his pocket and pay
the damn thing off.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
He's worth hundreds of millions of.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Dollars, and so am I shocked Bill Belichick's going back
to college. Yes, that I think there'd be a team
out there that would latch onto him from the NFL.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, I did think that. This is Chris Simm's talking about.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
But I'm not shocked at the NFL rejected Belichick, his control,
his demeanor, his attitude, everything that comes along with him. Yeah,
he threw Bill Belichick pretty much under the bus. He
beat him like a running bule. Just people don't want
to deal with that. You don't know how much longer
he's gonna coach. You're not gonna give him free rein
if he's only gonna be here two or three years, which.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Begs the next question.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Okay, he said it basically that the only other thing
he'll be shocked about is if Bill Belichick doesn't completely
flam out in North Carolina. I don't think he believes
Bill Belichick is going to have success there. Notice want
to stay there a long time. And as you heard
Jeff Dawson say, you know, the main sticking point in
(39:06):
the negotiations was making sure he had a landing spot
for his son, Steve. So what's next I don't know,
but I'll tell you what I think. If you are
planning on seeing Chris Sims and Bill Belichick hanging out together,
paling around, and I hate this saying. I don't know
why we use it so much. I doubt you have that.
I quote your bingo card. What the hell is a
bingo card? Show me I know what a bingo card is,
(39:29):
but you really have to have it. Okay, enough longly,
short of it is Chris Simms does not like Bill Belichick,
and we'll see what happens. We're going to be watching
no matter what it is, all right, I'll be back
on these airwaves Tuesday night, New Year's Eve. In the meantime,
keep it locked up next, Brian No, I believe is in.
(39:50):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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we've come to that juncture in the show.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You know you love it.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You can't leave with that out the dance sensation sweep
to the nation, you see, because as you know, You'gi
Berra once said, you can observe a lot by watching.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
And while we do that, we do that.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We do it on the Bernie fratter Show, and we
do it occasionally when I'm in for Ben Maller. You see,
because around this great land of ours, from sea to
oily sea, people like to perhaps engage in odd ball activity.
Now at times it can be innocuous and silly and stupid,
not very smart, but other times it can be you know,
(01:01):
far more serious and egregious, can even run a foul
the law and can even start.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
To land you in jail.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
But anyway you slice it any way, to characterize it
any way, describe it. Yeah, these behaviors that people engage
in always leave us scratching our head and asking ourselves,
what kind of brand new fool are you?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
What kind of brand new fool are you?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So this one isn't actually recent, but because it crosses
a couple of the spheres that are so weird and stupid,
I figured that we would start to ring in the
new year with one that happened earlier in a year,
but nonetheless still is relevant when it comes to the
(01:56):
brand new Fool franchise. Look starts out, we don't have
this idiot's name, and why you would you have designs
on blowing something up is beyond me. And why you
would have designs on blowing up the Hollywood Sign is
beyond me. But this would be bomber idiot allegedly tried
(02:19):
to pull off this doctor Evil with the iconic Hollywood sign. Again,
this is not reason been a back, you know, not
only in terms of his ridiculously wacky demands, but his methodology.
You see, Apparently word got out a while ago that
some idiot called the Hollywood Police Department threatening to blow
(02:43):
up the famous La landmark to smithereens with pipe bombs
unless he was paid wait for it, a wopping ten
thousand dollars, Are you kidding me? But here's where it
gets weird, Okay, because as the report goes on, the
LAPD checked it out, found no real credible threat, and
(03:05):
apparently there was some sort of investigation, but I don't
even know if there's even been any arrests. And by
the way, the Hollywood Sign is iconic, it's always under
twenty four hour seven, you know, twenty four to seven
video surveillance, so it's always watched, and there's also all
kinds of safety measures if anybody tries to tamper with it.
But it's no easy target, okay. But look, nonetheless, let's
(03:27):
get to the point of the story. So you have
to be an idiot to want to blow anything up
I think and damage property that would you know, put
people in jeopardy, put yourself in jeopardy. And you got
to be a bigger idiot to want to blow up
the Hollywood Sign. And you got to be a bigger
idiot to call the police department and ask for ten
thousand dollars unless you know your demands are met.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But hell, have you even gotten to the best part?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Did you know there's a place called Hollywood, Florida? Also,
and this moron dialed the Hollywood Police Department in Florida,
threatening to blow up the Hollywood Sign. And all I
can say is, whatever this unnamed person is, whoever you are?
What kind of brand new fool are you?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Oh boy, Well, now that we have another rousing edition
of what kind of brand new fool? You're in the books? Ready, team,
because now that allows us to segue into our second
favorite bit, What my Name?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And here we go, Cooper Lorena?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
All right, I suck at this game. I don't know anything.
Can we do, like like pop Star edition? Like what
shaved your head? In two thousand and six?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay, what I shaved my head in two thousand and six?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
What my name?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Who owe me?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Big me?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Pig me?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Lorena Britney Spears, Hey, all right, that's.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Gonna build some momentum.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That's gonna build some momentum.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I think it was two thousand and six.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Isn't she married to Patrick Mahomes. Oh no, that's Britney Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Close though they do look kind of similar.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Fair enough, all right, I still am the all time
leading rusher in college football. All right, and uh, Lorena,
I will here's a clue.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I told you.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
My wife says, Bernie, you don't give clues, so you know,
figure it out. And I have his last name coincides
with the famous chicken franchise.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
What my name.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Kevin Foster?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Very close? Oh, Foster Farms.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yeah, like Foster Farms.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Right, you forgot the tick of your friend.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah I did.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I was thinking too hard.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I'm sorry, or as I say in Canada, I'm sorry,
I wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yep, but it was it was.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
It was even my clues suck. Okay, so still the
all time leading rusher in college football. Coop, you're gonna
get this? What my name? I don't know if I'm
not give you a clue. You went to the same
college as Doug Gottlieb Oklahoma State played for the Lions
many many years. Oh, Harry Sanders, Bam, No cooking, No,
(06:29):
we're cooking.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And the reason I bring it up is because.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Ashton gent of Boise State could actually, you know, surpass
that record in the next few days. So we shall see.
All right, I thought what you said, Yeah, I thought
that was Julia McLaughlin, Barry Sanders twenty twenty six years,
twenty years, I believe Oh in a season. Okay, that's
(06:52):
on me.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
I did.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay, Yes, good for you, Coopy.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I didn't get her, why exactly?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Good night the way you gotta just run the game.
You have been a great audience. All right, we'll try
it again. I invented this game. I've only been doing
it three years on the Bernie Frattle Show. Clearly I
have a few holes in my game which are easily
being exposed. Okay, in the history of the National Football League,
I have passed for more yards cumulatively in my first
(07:22):
five seasons than any other quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And here's a clue.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
His first name is the same first name by that kid, Timberlake, Lorena.
What my name?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Oh? Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You got just three for three?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Better?
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Oh my gosh, I did it? How did I do it?
Could it even help me?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Coup thoughts? I am impressed. We're moving along.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I am a rookie tight end in the National Football League,
and I now own the record of the most yards
accumulated by a rookie tight end in National Football League history.
Justin Cooper what my name?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Rock Bowers?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yes, can you at.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Least for ten? Like you don't know, for like two seconds?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
So smart, I'll try next time. All right, I'm gonna
ask Coop this one first only because this I want
to see if Coop can get this one. All right? Well,
so Brock Bowers is now the all time leading rookie
tight end in terms of accumulating the most yards is
rookie season. But he had to break somebody's record. He
broke my record, Coop, what my name?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Here's a clue he was.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
He was also a coach of the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
When they won the Mike Ditka. Oh, now you're just
showing off.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Noo.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I didn't even need that.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Damn. I don't know that I would have got that.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Actually, well you got it, you got it.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Congratulations Coop.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
As an NFL quarterback in my career, I now have
to Hey, no, the keep the aplaus going.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I didn't mean to cut.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Into all right. Yeah, now I'm speaking out of turn.
I have been as an NFL quarterback in my career,
I have now been sacked more than any other NFL
quarterback in history, a total of five hundred and.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Sixty six times.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I was mentioned earlier on this show, and they just
did a Netflix special on me. That's Lorena. What my
name think?
Speaker 5 (09:45):
I know this one?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yes, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
At first, I was thinking it was going to be
that guy who keeps on getting knocked out recently to A.
But no, it's the other guy. I thought I forgot
his name though it is got it.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
It's the other guy. It's the other guy, Aaron Rodgers. A.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah, it's the guy in the green.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I knew that.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
And he's done right.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Uh no, not yet, not not yet, not yet. He's
gonna be like Freddy Krueger. I think he's going away
for it. Just think, Aaron Rodgers. I don't want to know.
I don't you know. What's what?
Speaker 6 (10:23):
Am I?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
You know?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
He's yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well yeah, okay, so, uh Travis Hunter just won the
Heisman Trophy. Okay, Colorado very well deserving. Well, here's a
trivia question. I'm the only college football player in history
to win the Heisman Trophy twice. Coop, I know you're
(10:46):
going to get this one. It was back in the
seventies and he played for Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
What my name?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh, he's got the same last name as a former
ESPN guy who got fired and quarterback.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Robert the Third. He's got the same last name as that.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Oh, I don't I don't know what I know it's
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm the only college football player to win the Heisman
Trophy twice. My last name is Griffin.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
What is.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
You know what? Just for the creativity, the former Clipper
Blake Griffin, it's actually Archie Griffin.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But I think the judges are going to allow.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So we can keep her on defeating street going now, yeah,
all right, last one, Yes, sir, here we go. But
you're gonna get this one. You're gonna get this one.
The Raiders have just won back to back games. Break
up the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
The Raiders.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, the last time the Raiders won back to back games,
I was their head coach, Justin Cooper. What my name?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
It's a dirty trick here going to get this.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
But if you really think you'll get it, is it
Antonio Piers It is Antonio Pearence. And I think Antonio
Pearance is the coach down. If you recall, the Raiders
won back to back games in Week fifteen and Week
sixteen last year, and I think It was that type
of performance at the end of the year that really
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sort of enabled Antonio appears to be brought back.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And people dont think I'm crazy. I don't think they
should fire him.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
The crap he's had to put up this year, he
didn't really have a quarterback, done that much of a roster.
He's maintained his dignity, he's maintained his poise. Give the
man a chance to do something. I think I think
he'd be wrong to fire him. But that's just my
thoughts speaking of another coach that all of a sudden,
now I thought he You know, if if someone would
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have said seven weeks ago, this guy's coming back next year,
I would have said, yeah, you got a better chance
of Led Zeppelin re recording the Gilligan's Island theme song
and Blake Griffin singing lead, then this guy coming back.
But all of a sudden, there's all kinds of buzz.
Now this guy might be back next year. Is it
good or is it bad? I'll weigh the pros and
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cons coming up. Oh, by the way, Bill Miller has disappeared.
He's got nothing to say at this point. So Bill,
we'll try to find you one last time before the show.
Maybe he's going on a walk about with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Miller
Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Oh boy, we've had a Bill Miller sighting. Just got
off the phone with Bill Miller.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He claims he's traveling around the world. I said, well,
what are you doing, Bill? Where are you? He says, well,
I'm in Denmark. I said, well, what are you doing
in Denmark? Bill? He says, well, I'm visiting the Vatican. Bill,
What the hell you talking about? Bill? The the Vaticans
in Rome? He said, no, I know, I know what's
in Rome. But they're doing so well in Rome they
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decided to open up one in Denmark. I don't know
about that, Bill Miller. Man, this has not been a
good Bill Miller knight. But we'll have to forgive you.
Bernie Froud is sitting in for Ben Maller Company line
from the tarat dot Com Studios here in Las Vegas.
Coming up at about seven minutes. We're gonna take you
out to Boston. My guy, Jeff Dawson who's going on
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top of the Bill Belichick story for.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
About fourteen months.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Obviously, there's been a fork in the road because he
ain't going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Except for North Carolina. I don't even know what's gonna
happen there.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So we'll win with Jeff and get his thoughts and
maybe he'll tell some things we don't know. All Right.
I mentioned that I thought Antonio appears to the Raiders
should be allowed to return, and I mean that all
of a sudden. Now there's all sorts of buzz in
the Cowboys' locker room that they want Mike McCarthy back
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in Dallas. Now is that a good idea or a
bad idea?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
H Now, I got no beef with Mike McCarthy. I
just don't want him coaching my team. You see what
he does in the postseason. He looks like Barney Rebel
wander in the sidelines. Yea, I at the mall parking lot,
who can't figure out where the hell he parked his car.
It's happened too many times. So if Jerry Jones really
has designs on winning another super Bowl, you're not gonna
do with Mike McCarthy. You're not gonna do it with
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him and Dak forget it. No way, no how forget it?
Not up in your ah no no, But there's pros
and cons. Okay, the offense has actually done a little
better under Cooper Rush that it did under Dak And
I brought those numbers up there on that on my show.
And they don't have a bunch of blue chip weapons anymore. Right,
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McCarthy's actually developed players like ric O'Donnell and Cavante Turpin.
That's considered a a positive sign. He hired Mike Zimmer
and it took a while, but Zimmer's figured it out. Dallas'
defense has improved after a shaky started the season of
Dallas defense is not playing at a really fair high level.
And I know they got just it just got blown
out by the Eagles on Sunday. But there are a
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lot of folks that believe Mike McCarthy has done enough
to justify bringing him back. And you know, unless the
Cowboys think they can land a big fish like Ben Johnson,
which I don't think he wants to go there. I
think he wants to go to the Bears. You say
to yourself, all right, it's the devil, you know, versus
the devil.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You bring back McCarthy and Zimmer with an upgraded roster,
could that be a winning combination? No, they're not gonna
win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I just said that.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Don't ask again, and nothing changes with respect that McCarthy
and his in high leverage moments in playoff games. His
late game decision making has been brutal, right, and the
Cowboys didn't play any big games this year, But how
McCarthy has performed in those big game situations in the
past is ultimately how he's been judged. I think. I
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get it. McCarthy's done a good job of getting the
Cowboys to continue battling in spite of the rampid in
injuries until at least Sunday, so you give him some credit.
The locker room could have easily tuned him out. The
season could have been even uglier than it was before
this year. I get it. The Cowboys had three straight
twelve win seasons, and the National Football League those regular
seasons at in fifty cents. It gets you a cup
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of coffee, Burger Chef. It's all about the postseason. They've
underachieved in those three postseasons. That looms large, and I
get the injuries are beyond McCarthy's control, and Jerry Jones
didn't properly address the running back position. You think it
would have mattered. They could have got Derek Henry. You
think it really going to have mattered. I mean, Baltimore
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was already good before Derrick Henry got there. Nothing away
from Derrick Henry. Stud But where I threw a little
bit of a flag is all right? You're giving McCarthy's
flowers over the last six seven weeks when it could
have been worse, but somehow it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
What about the first ten weeks? Okay?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I think the way I see it is this is
as far as the Cowboys are ever gonna go under
Mike McCarthy. Three twelve win seasons, nothing in the playoffs
this year. Fine, it's a mulligan. So at Jerry Jones is,
at eighty two years old, is saying, I'll what the
hell I give up? I'm never gonna win the Super
Bowl without Jimmy Johnson's players. That ship sailed back in
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nineteen ninety five, and I'm gonna repeatedly fall short in
the postseason. But I want Mike McCarthy because he's a happy,
go lucky guy and the players like him and they
respect him, and he doesn't have the red ass.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And you know he listens.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
If Mike McCarthy I tell him what to do, he
does it right. It's like the old joke, are yo,
yes man? No, I'm not a yes man When my
boss tells me no, I say no too. Okay, that's
Mike McCarthy. But if Jones truly wants to win another
Super Bowl, he needs to turn over his talent acquisition
duties to somebody else. Find a stronger, better field general,
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find a more innovative guy who's going to perhaps find
a different ceiling that the team may or may not have.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And I have zero faith.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I have zero faith in Dak Prescott anyway anyway, So
I don't give a damn who you bring in. But
you know, maybe you say to yourself, you're bringing in
newcomer to replace Mike McCarthy with fewer sins, fewer scars.
It might inspire a little bit more external excitement, But
what is really the driving force in making the decision
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on a head coach. Only Jerry Jones knows that. Okay,
there is some merit in retaining McCarthy. But will Jerry
Jones ever win a Super Bowl under Mike McCarthy. No,
don't ask me again. Let's go out to Angry Bill
in Jacksonville. What's up, Angry Bill? How you been there, buddy?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
How are you doing?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I want to give you credit.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I want to give you credit, man, because last July
I joked about the Pittsburgh Pirates maybe making a run
with Paul Schemes. He said, yeah, see me in September. Uh,
take your victory, lab Bill. I was dead wrong on that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Come on, it's a Pittsburgh Pirates. Anybody could have said that.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
But yeah, but you did, Bill on national radio and
I I, yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Some people get you fooled. But I wanted to wish
everybody a happy New Year. I was surprised to hear
Lorraina and Cooper working, and I almost fell off my chair.
But it's nice to see if they were working. I
want to I want to go over well one quick thing.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, go right ahead and you But go ahead, Angry Billy.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I'm want the static that the Yankees did not sign Soto.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Oh nice, go ahead, you got the floor, Bud.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It's going to be your percentage of falling apart. Like
most big time contracts. Some don't, but the majority of them,
probably seventy percent of them do. And the Yankees ure lucky.
They're not going to get the guy. They went out
and spent the money on where they should pitching. Give
me the pitching for four years, and their at least
hopefully working in that direction. The other thing I wanted
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to talk to you about. You were talking about tarts. Yeah,
weld one little coincidental thing you're talking about. The guy
had an idea and he made a fortune with it.
Do you know the bubblegum chew?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yes, very much so as I used to dip and
chew tobacco. Go ahead, are there Angry Bill?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Are you going to hear nobody?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I'm here? Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Bill?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Did we lose Bill? Bill?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
He's still there, Bill, I.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Can hear you, Bill.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Coop?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Take Bill offline and tell him we'll take us call back.
I want to get to our guest, Jeff Austin. I
hate to have angry Bill cut off. He was talking
about big Lee chew. When we finish up with Jack, Jeff,
we'll we'll take Bill back but I don't want to
bring in a gentleman. Go ahead and let him know
what's going on. Coop, I don't know what happened there.
Let's welcome in a gentleman. ECI Sports invest out of Boston,
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a good friend of mine, and we were all over
the He was all over the Bill Belichick situation last year,
guaranteeing it would be last year in New England. But listen,
none of us saw, you know, Bill Belichick inning up
in North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
So what the hell happened? What's going on here? Jeff?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And this book feels like it's missing a chapter. Tell
us what you think you know. And let's not forget
to talk about that goofy clause in his contract if
he leaves before June first.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Good morning, Bernie, great to be here. Yes, we did
not have Bill Belichick going to UNC on our bingo card.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Yeah, my first impression, Ernie, it reminded me of the
Blues brothers Jake and Elwood wanted to bring the gang
back together, and we were blown away when we heard this.
A four hundred page documents sent to UNC with all
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everything that he needed and his game plan on what
the process was gonna be just blindsided.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
He threw some feelers out there to the NFL, even
to the Jets, and you could see right through the
tea leaves it wasn't gonna happen again in the NFL.
So made a few phone calls and presto magic UNC
bringing the gang back. Good good friend and colleague, mister
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Mike Bombardi from Vison as his GM. But the real
thing that sticks out to us, what we thought was
Steve bringing the son Steve, and and the real fly
in the ointment is when Bill leaves, not if when
Bill leaves, Steve is the coach in waiting. And so
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that's what really stuck out to us, and which I
think he was getting his name back into the ranks
to have a good first year at you would see,
but really setting up his son, Steve Berning.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Okay, fair enough. I accept that he got a five
year contract, only the first three year guarantee. Now, Jeff,
you you know you around the odds industry for a living.
What odds do you give that Bill Belichick's there the
full three years?
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Odds I give he's there. I would say probably around
twenty twenty two percent. I mean, his whole goal I
would assume is to get in there. Let's get a
nine to ten win season. If he has a miracle season,
get to the you know, to the final twelve, and
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get them into the playoffs. The ACC is not doing
too well already in the bowl games. He's already out
on the recruiting pat He's brought a couple of guys over.
I mean, if he could have the perfect script, get
him to the playoffs, everything's going great, and then you know,
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there's seven or eight other openings. The real tough part
is who wants to pay the ten million dollar bio,
which would have to be himself. Well, who's going to
wait till June first for the one million dollars? You've
already missed the draft, the combines and everything. So if
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a team's going to take a chance and try to
save some money, it's going to be after June first, right,
So let's.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Hone right in on that stipulation in the contract. If
Belichick terminates the deal without cause. For instance, if you
wanted to leave for an NFL job before June first,
UNC would be a ten million. However, that amount drops
to one million after June first. What's the moral of
the story here. Why the hell would Belichick put that
in the contract if he doesn't even have in this
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consciousness that he.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
May leave the school before he's ever coached a single game.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Otherwise, that kind Jeff, that contract stipulation doesn't need to
be in there, unpacked us for us.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
Exactly. So if you read through the four hundred page
mumbo jumbo or however we want to feel this onion back,
it was all to set Steve up. It was all
to make sure the sun is set up in a
coaching gig now at college, now at UNC, and Bill
has made enough money where if someone came knocked in
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this February of March, he kind of checked faster than
whatever to say, hey, by the way, here's a ten
million thanks. My son's got it from here, and you're
all set up. So Bill smart guy, and he's got
his name back there. He's saying all the right things,
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U n C. I mean, you know, if it was
noted Dame, if it was maybe all right. You know,
the locals are just laughing back here because they don't
even have a story. I mean, the locals have a
hard enough time cover in BC, which is rate forty
five minutes from where I am right now, Bernie then
trying to dig up some dirt on Bill and the
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North Carolina targets.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
So I'm guessing you're not buying the narrative that it
was a dream of his because his dad went to
UNC and his first words were beat Duke. That was
all a bunch of Michigan gos. That was the stuff
that started to really piss me off. Let me digress,
digress for just a second.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
San.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
He's looking to maybe get a nine to ten win season.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
What is the measure of success for Bill Belichick as
it pertains to whatever his tenure is at North Carolina?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Is it playoffs or bust? What is it?
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Re Establish Bill Belichick?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
So it's not even about North Okay, go ahead, I'm sorry,
go ahead, re.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Establish the name and the brand of Bill Belichick. The
details come. I already heard Mike Lombardi talking about this.
You know, if you want to succeed in the NFL,
if you want to be able to be ahead of
the game, well you want to come to North Carolina.
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Look at Bill, Look at his six rings, Look what
he has done in the NFL. So he's trying to
use his name to bring people to you and see,
this is the path now to the NFL. It's not
the targels. It's not go beat Duke.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
My dad was here.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
If you want to go to the NFL, you go
through the tar heels and Bill Belichick and the team
that we're putting together and the process.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So, if I understand you correctly, and I believe I do,
this is all basically self serving, that Bill Belichick is
purely using North Carolina as a way station and segue
to get back to the NFL. Correct Is that basically
what this is all about.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
That is and one A is to make sure he
set up his son into coaching. That is one B.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
All right, So I just asked you what the odds
were he stays three years? One of the odds Bill
Belichick leaves right before or right after June first, there's
going to be seven NFL openings.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
What are the chances something happens?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Remember he was the Jets coach for one day back
in two thousand, right, remember that? So I'm not predicting this.
I don't know anything anymore. What are the odds you
put on Bill Belichick not even coaching one year at
North Carolina?
Speaker 6 (29:36):
I would say that is slim to none as well.
He read a good good He read the room real well.
Don't forget he only got one interview last year with
was there of seven or eight openings last year? He
got the one interview in Atlanta, nothing else. And there's
going to be plenty of opportunities this year. And there
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was some teams that could have already came calling. So
that's why they jump to UNC. Well before the season's over.
This year, the writing was.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
On the wall.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Hey, Bill, you're.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Not going to get an opportunity this year. So I
would say it would be less than ten percent, Bernie,
unless someone was desperate. Now, the two big names are
one in your nectar the woods, Ben Johnson, and the
real heart name is Mike Brabele. And then after that,
you know there's five or six other heart names. Where
do they go and who do they get filled by?
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But Bill read the room real real well. Here it
says it's not happening again this year. Let's re establish
the Bill Belichick brand, Let's bring the gang back together,
and let's have a good year at UNC. And the
big thing in my mind is let's make sure my
son Steve is set.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Up all right.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Well said, and we're going to continue, obviously to watch
this last question. I just got about a minute. What
odds do you give that Bill Belichick at some point
is gracing the NFL headline sidelines as a head coach.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
A great question, Bernie.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I'm going to put it at fifty to fifty. I
think that's right where it's at.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Bernie, you just took the words right out of my mouth.
I had fifty to fifty as well. I think the
plan is, let's have a great year. Maybe let's tiptoe
and get close to the ACC championship, maybe the final twelve.
That might be enough to get two or three interviews
next year. You know, a seven to win season isn't
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going to float the needle for anyone in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
All right, Jeff, go back to your drawing board. We'll
talk to you New Year's morning. Handicap that triple header, pal, Thanks.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Thank you, Bernie.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Have a great, great day, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Austin E Ci've connected to the Bill Belichick thing, and listen,
I think you break up an excellent pointment.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
A lot of this is self serving me set up, Steve.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
You may give it a little bit of a go
at Earth Carolina try to win a game. But this
is all designed to maybe get back to the NFL.
At least that says a painting coop to is Angry Bill.
Still there coup fin any chance? All right, let's welcome
you back in Angry Bill. I don't know what the
hell happened with this goofy technology we have, but you
are about to make a point, and let's give you
a chance to make your point.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I don't know where I left off, but you talk
about this Wan Soto thing. That's not where I want
to talk about. But I'm glad. I've been the Yankee
fan since nineteen sixty and I'm glad the Yankees didn't
get them. They got better the things to do with
their money, and you know, the high priced signings seventy
percent of the time don't work out. So I'm glad
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they didn't get him. We don't need his number twenty
two and we don't need him. One thing I wanted
to get onto do is close to your pop caart things. Yes,
do you know who invented the bubblegum chew? The shredded
bubblegum chew?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
And then I'm very familiar with the product and I
know that the idea originated by I think Toolon's relievers
that were in a bullpen that found some marketing guy
that know how to do it. Uh, And and I
think it's the story is very easily found Angry Bill
by googling. It's certainly out there, but it all originated
from an innocuous conversation. But I think a couple of
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Oaklaan's relievers sitting in a bullpen, and they took it
to a guy that knew how to how to make
it a reality.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Well, the person that took it and made it to
reality and sold it to Wriggly, the Jim Bally.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Well that part, Yes, he's the one that made it reality.
But he had a marketing Yes, that's outstanding, great Jim
Bouton knowledge and I didn't know that. But he didn't
do it by himself. He had a marketing team.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Oh yeah, he was not by himself. But he was
the one who had pushed it and got it done
and got it through. And I played with him and
against him. I was good friends with him, and he
tragically died from a disease. But he was a fantastic
guy and he was the one who pushed it and
got it sold to Wriggly good Stuff man. Yeah, higher salary,
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his higher salary. I'm at the time of the Yankees.
He's twenty four thousand dollars. He sold it to them
for millions.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, of course his book. Of course, let's face it,
his book A Ball four is just legendary. Oh my god,
it's legendary. And by the way, we keep calling it bubblegums.
You remember they called it big League Chew. I'm not
sure who came up with that name. That might have
been Bowden who came up with that the actual.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Day, so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
But all right, Angry Bell, tell you what, man, I'm
gonna be back on heading into New Year's Day, a MPM.
New Year's Eve, heading into New Year's Day. I feel
free to call back and we'll pick up where we
left off. Okay, Angry Bill, ok, Angry Bill, Ladies and gentlemen.
And I gotta give him credit. He said the Pittsburgh
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Pirates ain't going nowhere. He turned out to be no
Stredamus on that, and I turned out to be no
stra dumbass. Not so much that I thought they would,
But the way Paul Skemes was going and I thought,
you know, in this day and age and Major League Baseball,
if you're five hundred on Labor Day, you're in the
playoff hunt. What the hell do I know? Like I said,
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I'm no high school drop but I went the full
six years. But you know, I got a few holes
in my game to Coming up, we wrap up the
Ben Mallor Show, and I want to share something else
regarding the NFL quote unquote rejecting Bill Belichick. There's a
former NFL quarterback whose dad was also an NFL quarterback,
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who has been pretty active in the media and is
a regular on some Fox shows who had a very
caustic commentary about why he is actually not shocked that
the NFL didn't hire Bill Belichick, at least to this point.
We hire why it happened, and that he will not
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be shocked if there's a certain income, a certain outcome
at North Carolina. I'll bring all that mouthful to you.
Coming up, I'm Bernie Fraddle sitting for Ben Maller, coming
to line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Diirect
dot Com Studios.
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Speaker 2 (36:29):
Well, Bill Miller didn't like my Denmark comments, so he's
left the room. We'll see if we can rally him
on New Year's Eve. I'll be back on these airwaves
new Year's Eve, bringing.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
In the new year.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Signing out at eleven pm Pacific time on New Year's Eve.
Before going further, I want to thank my broadcast team
Lorrain and Coop.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Great job.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
As always. This is my twenty first Ben Maller Show.
My name is Bernie Frattle. I'm sitting in for the
great Ben Maller and New Year's Eve will be my
twenty second Ben at Meller Show. In addition to the
shows you can hear that I host on Friday and
Saturday night on the network beginning of LEMP in Pacific
to the Bernie Fratto Show. All right, Bill Belichick would
continue to be a polarizing figure. Didn't show up. I'm
(37:13):
damn it. I meant to ask Jeff this. He didn't
even show up at the North Carolina Bowl game against Yukon.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't why you would said
he want to be distraction, Bill, You're already distraction.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Man.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Come on, Dan Mullen, the new UNLV head coach, showed
up the bowl game here and they were glad to
see him.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I don't know, man, I don't know how to read
that one. But what does it matter. There's no point
in trying to read Bill Belichick's mind, or Bill Miller's
mind for that matter. But Chris Simms wasted no time
pulling no punches, basically saying the reason that Bill Belichick
was quote rejected by the NFL is that most of
the people he treated like quote ish for twenty years yep.
(37:54):
During his weekly appearance on a podcast with Stu Gottz,
he said, quote do I believe he's gonna stay there?
Absolutely not? Sim said, I mean the bio tells you everything.
Starting this June, he can be bought out of the
couch for couch cushion change for NFL owners. I mean,
come on, a million dollars. Bilichick's got a million dollars
in cash he could put in his pocket and pay
the damn thing off.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
He's worth hundreds of millions of.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Dollars, and so am I shocked Bill Belichick's going back
to college. Yes, that I think there'd be a team
out there that would latch onto him from the NFL.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, I did think that. This is Chris Simm's talking about.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
But I'm not shocked at the NFL rejected Belichick, his control,
his demeanor, his attitude, everything that comes along with him. Yeah,
he threw Bill Belichick pretty much under the bus. He
beat him like a running bule. Just people don't want
to deal with that. You don't know how much longer
he's gonna coach. You're not gonna give him free rein
if he's only gonna be here two or three years, which.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Begs the next question.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Okay, he said it basically that the only other thing
he'll be shocked about is if Bill Belichick doesn't completely
flam out in North Carolina. I don't think he believes
Bill Belichick is going to have success there. Notice want
to stay there a long time. And as you heard
Jeff Dawson say, you know, the main sticking point in
(39:06):
the negotiations was making sure he had a landing spot
for his son, Steve. So what's next I don't know,
but I'll tell you what I think. If you are
planning on seeing Chris Sims and Bill Belichick hanging out together,
paling around, and I hate this saying. I don't know
why we use it so much. I doubt you have that.
I quote your bingo card. What the hell is a
bingo card? Show me I know what a bingo card is,
(39:29):
but you really have to have it. Okay, enough longly,
short of it is Chris Simms does not like Bill Belichick,
and we'll see what happens. We're going to be watching
no matter what it is, all right, I'll be back
on these airwaves Tuesday night, New Year's Eve. In the meantime,
keep it locked up next, Brian No, I believe is in.
(39:50):
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