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May 25, 2023 • 38 mins

Ben Maller talks about the NFL getting denied the trademark for the Washington Commanders nickname, why it makes sense to change the name of the team now (again), Puck the World w/ Eddie Garcia, Fact or Fiction, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome. It's our nameberfore and what's in a name?
Could there be a name change again? In the NFL?
The NFL's Washington Football team had their trademark request denied
to use Washington Commanders as their nickname. Now it's a

(00:23):
long drawn out process. But why is the NFL struggling
to get all the t's crossed and the eyes dotted
with the commander moniker? And what should happen to the
commander's nickname? And why does it make sense for the
new owner to change the name yet again of the

(00:44):
Washington Football team. We'll talk about that and more right
now here. It is our number four. Hail to the
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Speaker 2 (01:42):
And we begin this hour, the hour of what hour
of a federal government and sports getting together, And we.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Were talking about an interesting wrinkle to a sourceman bouncing
around here. It involves the future of a team formerly
known as the Redskins. They had to get rid of
that name. It was taboo, it was revoting, and so
they got rid of it a couple of years ago.
If you didn't hear the fallout on the latest chapter
in what used to be called the Redskins, perhaps not.

(02:15):
We've learned now the United States Patent and Trademark Office
something that does not get talked about enough in sports.
The United States Patent and Trademark Office denied denied the
Commander's trademark application earlier this month. We've just learned about
it recently. They cited it existing trademark claims that had

(02:39):
been made. What are those existing deals? You asked, if
you didn't see this, and maybe not, the Commander's Classic.
What the heck is that?

Speaker 3 (02:48):
That?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Is a football game between Air Force and Navy. They
have called it the Commander's Classic. I had never heard
that before. But apparently that's a thing. And there's also
a pending application for something called the Washington Space Commanders
and the Washington Wolf Commanders. Those claims made by some

(03:11):
random person who lives in the greater Washington, DC area
who's named Martin McCauley. Is his name, and filing applications
for trademarks is his game. So the question why is
the NFL going through this rigamarole struggling to get the

(03:35):
commander's name under complete control of the NFL umbrella. So
I've got squatters' rights, wet kiss, and fruit loops, and
we will combine all of these random things together and
we are going to make a wonderful, wonderful hog. A

(03:57):
road hog is what we're gonna make. So to lead off,
this was not a smooth.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Move.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
It was not This was not well thought out. The
original name changed, the NFL lawyers did not do their
full due diligence. How do we know they didn't do
their due diligence because here we are several years later
and this has still not worked itself out. The NFL
put a temporary band aid of a name in place

(04:26):
that was the Washington Football Team. They then put another
temporary band aid on top of the first band aid,
and that was the Washington commanders. They were not PROACTI.
If they were reactive, the new moniker should have been
done behind closed doors, and they didn't do it. They

(04:49):
were a flustered. They clearly had not planned this out.
As we said at the time, the take has been
validated over the years that the NFL and the people
in the hierarchy there and football were able to twist
the arm of Dan Snyder. But it's not like this
is something where they had planned it out step by
step and it was just a flawless transition. No. No,

(05:12):
they went public announcing they were gonna come up with
a new nickname. They even said, hey, we're going to
We're going to take submissions for the new nickname. They
opened up Snyder's Box, which is like Pandora's Box, and
a bunch of opportunistic souls, God loved them, started spitballing
different ideas, playing the guessing game. It turns out this

(05:36):
cat named Martin McCauley hit the bullseye and now he
thinks he's got squatters' rights because he attempted a trademark.
Just about every possible conceivable name that you could come
up with in anticipation of what the NFL was going
to name the team in Washington. And that was back

(05:59):
in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, and the new name
came into fruition in twenty twenty two. Now, this guy's
a longtime fan of what used to be known as
the Redskins. He has claimed in the past that he
would be willing to just give up any trademark to
help the team out. Now does that mean he'll do
it for free? Is he a sucker? If you spend

(06:21):
all this money, even though it's not a lot for
an NFL team, for someone who does not have NFL money,
it's a fair amount that you have to put up
to get all these different applications in. Are you just
gonna give all that up and say, okay, I'll hand
it over even though you're worth multiple billions of dollars?
Where are people's opinions changed? As you know, your opinions

(06:43):
have changed, My opinions have changed. Now furtherm what should
happen in a perfect world to the commander's nickname? So
this is going to take some time, but ultimately the NFL,
if they want they can keep it. They've got deeper pockets.
That's not the question. The question is what should happen.
They could win a legal battle over the name, because

(07:06):
they can keep dragging this thing longer and longer, and
eventually they'll win. But we advise them to go the
opposite direction, to hang a left turn or in this case,
a U turn, and go back to the drawing board.
And our professional advice is an ancient transformative ritual, a

(07:30):
burning ceremony, and get all that Washington commander, gear all
of it together and say Sionara bonton voyage audio, smooth
chachos and think wet kiss, just a sloppy wet kiss,
and you kiss it all goodbye. That's all she wrote.
Na da da da da da la la Hey, good bye.

(07:55):
Just get rid of it. Ride the roller coaster. It'll
be exhibiting, it'll be frightening, it'll be all of that.
But you don't double down on a mistake. You know,
when you realize you've made a mistake, you don't go
back and say, Okay, we're gonna continue with the mistake
and we'll figure it out. This nickname change was not

(08:16):
a perfect ten. It was about a two it was
a two. It didn't go as planned, it backfired, and
you have an opportunity to rectify the situation. You can recalibrate.
If you're the NFL big shots, you're the bureaucracy of football.
You can all blame Dan Snyder. The team's all but sold,

(08:37):
it hasn't transferred over to the new owners. But you
gotta have a fall guy. Dan Snyder is the fall guy.
Not my fault, Dan Snyder's fault, all right, partner shot,
So why does it make sense to change the Washington
commander nickname now after only a couple of years. So
you've got the new owners coming in, fresh start, you

(09:00):
get a second bite of the cherry. And the commander's
nickname was always lame, right, some nube at the NFL
cooked it up and they are, oh, it's a good idea.
Why not It never hit the mark. It always was
generic brand. It was like a generic ripoff brand. You

(09:20):
want fruit loops, you love fruit loops, You want that
cereal and you get a bowl of fruity Oh's. Now,
fruity Oh's look kind of like fruit loops, but they're
not the same. Close, but no fruit loops and lacking
the same sugary crunch the name brand from Kellogg's part

(09:43):
of this is the Washington football team is not only
a football team, but they have done the switcheroo and
they still blow. And that's a problem, right. They suck
and they've sucked at a time you cannot suck, which
is during the NFL season. But more than that, the
Commander's logo is a marketing fail. It is lifeless. Is

(10:05):
it is lacking any kind of gusto? He say, Oh,
it's just a logo. Who cares? But it is boring
with a capital B. And the fans and they've done
surveys on this of people in the greater DC area,
the fan base of the Washington football team. They're footloose
and fancy free, and they would give their blessing for

(10:27):
a name change situation. Take the Mulligan, use the get
out of nickname jail free card, have the Great Awakening,
and rather than try to work out the details for
the same lay mass name, the Commanders go the other direction,
go the other find something else. There are plenty of

(10:48):
other possibilities for the nickname. I think since you're in Washington,
you might as well have a full political flavor to it,
and we've had teams in baseball called the the Senators
over the years. You can go a different direction, but
a similar a similar path and just something that ties

(11:08):
into the local economy in Washington, d C. Which is
selling a political bull crap to the American people. It
is the Ben Mahlor Show. If you'd like to comment
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Twitter at Ben Mahllor, that's at Ben Maler. I did

(11:33):
want to mention I saw Patrick Mahomes Mahoonee in his
interview this week. He talked about his contract and this
is one of the great I don't know deep fakes
the right way. I guess a gaslight would be the
proper term here. So Patrick Mahomes was patting himself on

(11:54):
the back in the SoundBite I saw going around, and
he talked about how he's worried about his legacy and
winning rings and that's more important than making money at
the moment. He pointed out in the SoundBite that I
saw bouncing around, and I thought that was funny, because
if you really want to win as many championships as

(12:14):
you want, and you want your legacy to be winning
super Bowls, then really what you want to do is
just play for the minimum. But maybe I'm wrong on this.
I don't know. I just do the Overnight Show. But
I don't think Mahomes is doing the minimum contract with
the Chiefs. I think he's getting a fair amount. He's
about to sign a contract for more money. He's got

(12:35):
four hundred and fifty million over ten years, but that's
gonna get torn up and he's gonna get a new contract,
which is fine. He should get the money. But don't
sit there and get the violin out and talk about
how you're all about the legacy. You're all about winning
the rings. Now you can be about the money and
about winning. Both things can be true at the same time.

(12:56):
The NFL's got plenty of money. They can afford to
pay quarterbacks a lot of money, and so you can
make a lot of money and you can still have
a good team. You can do both. You can have
your cake and need it to and harvest success and
then right off into the sunset and have have a
wonderful time. It is the Ben Malor Show. As we
continue on We'll have Puck the World with Eddie. We'll

(13:17):
get to that and we will do it. Meg.

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Speaker 1 (13:56):
Lena's how We're Gonna have a Factor Fiction, will have
Puck the World with as well. Will take your calls
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if you would like to be part of the program.
Barstool Booty rights in He says commanders are like the

(14:16):
coyotes of the NFL, always crap with so much local drama.
He points out, what else do we have? Andy the
Comic book Guy says, great take on Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen,
the Real Team discount Man of the Day. Paul says,
how about the Washington irs for the nickname? Yeah, you know, taxation,

(14:44):
the Washington taxation with very poor representations. Justin wrights In says, gee,
I like red wolves or wolf pack or red tales,
or or wolves or warthogs. Justin says, yeah, well, they
should come up with something that is not as generic.
I think wolfpack would be generic. Wolves, we've got the timberwolves.

(15:10):
Warthogs would be original. But none of those really hit
the bullseye in my humble estimation. And I am an
expert when it comes to nicknames. I've forgotten more about
nicknames than you're ever gonna know. Let's go to the phones.
We'll say hello to Jed, who fled? Who is up

(15:31):
next on the Ben Motley Show? Hello, Jed?

Speaker 4 (15:35):
The Washington pull your pants down and size you?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yes, what would their logo?

Speaker 7 (15:43):
It will look like the Washington because there more than
forty fie.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
There are you calling us from a cave somewhere? Oh?

Speaker 8 (15:55):
You know what trade is?

Speaker 4 (15:56):
I respect you so much. I'm trying to start making
like an notes about things that are worth talking about.
But I think you also speaker phone, So I'm like
whipping my phone in front of me to try to like,
you know, read a note back to the ear, reading
note back to the ear. And then I realized that's
not good for you know, continuity. And then I realized,
you know, turbines work listens who as I am, and
so it's just, you know, what do we do?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
So there's really only one rule, Jed, There's one rule.
When you get on the radio. It's like, people need
to be able to hear you. That's kind of the
most important thing. That's the golden rule. Everything else is
just extra. But people have to be able to hear you.
You sound like you're in a tin can.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
No man, I I'm actually in an eleven can?

Speaker 7 (16:35):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 4 (16:36):
I'm in the bathroom of my bathroom. Is it echoing
like that?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
That's not so much. It's not an echo. It just
sounds tin canny. It's it's it's a weird, odd sound
that you've got. But who cares? We're wasting time?

Speaker 4 (16:49):
No man, it's actually and the panel for this is
a ten can?

Speaker 7 (16:53):
Is it not even a problem phone?

Speaker 8 (16:54):
It's like a George H. W.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
Bush phone?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Okay, because can you help out our guy hollering? James there?
He said his charge. He hasn't called the show, he said,
because recently his charger cable died, So can you send
him a new charger cable?

Speaker 4 (17:10):
I see I have it, any won't Jack?

Speaker 8 (17:13):
I mean, what Walmart? Can you get in your car
before they get you?

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Scret?

Speaker 7 (17:18):
It's tree?

Speaker 4 (17:18):
It's the game to play Walmart.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh okay, it's like a It's like a race. You're
at the Olympics and you're trying to run away and
if you're fast enough, you get to keep.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
It has nothing to do with race when you steal stuff.
What kind of assumption is that, dude? Nothing to do
with race?

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Okay, that is all right, I understand.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
I want to tell you.

Speaker 7 (17:36):
I want to.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
All right, if I I can't the phone, I can't.
I can't. I can't handle the phone. So thank you.

Speaker 9 (17:49):
Surprised it lasted that long.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
To be honest with you, I thought maybe it was
just my headphones and my hearing's not that good. But
it did not get better.

Speaker 10 (17:56):
There's a lot of good stuff in that phone call.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
You love his phone phone calls. You're a big fan
of jedhoo.

Speaker 10 (18:02):
He just he just revealed that he takes notes on
what he's gonna say to you when you.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
It doesn't sound like it though. That's the beauty of
a Jed who Fled phone call, because it doesn't sound
like he's such a he's such an artistan when he
calls the show that it doesn't sound like he's taken
any notes. Let's study.

Speaker 10 (18:20):
It sounded weird because he was holding the phone to
his ear and then moving in front of his face
so we could read his notes, and then moving it back.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, that seems like there's a better way to do that,
you know.

Speaker 10 (18:33):
And then I'm pretty sure that last part where he
said no, I've got to tell you something and then
sounded I'll mumbled. I feel like that had to have
been staged.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
You you're going too deep into the weeds with Jet
who Fled? It is there's that much not going into it,
I promise you No, I disagree. I disagree, Coop. Now
here's a guy that has a lot of thought. He said,
he figures how long can I stay on the air
before I say something? That will get me done, gives
off the air. You want to take a guess, Eddie Good,

(19:01):
I know who it is. All right, let's go to
the Sunshine State. We'll say hello to a man who
has no sunshine in his life. Angry bill.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Girl.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
How he's doing?

Speaker 8 (19:14):
Guys, I got a cute story for you. I picked
up a customer down here in Jacksonville Czeck's Beach.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
Actually when he gets to the.

Speaker 8 (19:21):
Car, and he's a large about forty two years let's
say large, not fat, just.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
Good sky, solid man. And he's a Mexican man.

Speaker 8 (19:29):
And he was down here on a slip to get
the job at an alcohol store. That store, but the
company that sells alcohol and beer. So very smart, very articulate.
And now we're talking. And he said he grew up
in San Diego, but his parents couldn't afford the TV,
so him and his grandfather listened to radio all the time.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
And he kept mentioning names and numbers of the stations.
And I says, well, I don't know the stations.

Speaker 8 (19:52):
Did you ever listen to Ben Mallor? He was, what
are you kidding me?

Speaker 7 (19:56):
He said, I met Ben Mallard.

Speaker 8 (19:57):
Where he was big and fat, so we started talking.
I said, well, do you ever hear Angry Bill? Of course,
you said, I'm the most articulate love person in l
A on the stations.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, that's because he was worried you were going to
punch him. So that's why he's the guy. Yeah, he's
not going to run away from you. You know, you
know he's a movie. He's not moving.

Speaker 8 (20:24):
A really nice man.

Speaker 7 (20:26):
And uh, he said.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
He made he made your day. Angry Bill, you're probably
making this story up, but we'll play along with you.
I feel like you are making this up. I feel
like you're making the story up.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
I'm not making it up. I'm telling you all right. Hey,
look you guys have a great day. I think I
made the story up. I couldn't give a damn.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
All right, thanks, well as possible. He didn't make it up.
He didn't curse at the end, at least not something
we had a dump. So he's getting conceivable. He actually
that did actually happen. Mentionine the odds of getting in
a car in Jacksonville, and there he is, the aforementioned

(21:12):
Angry Bill driving you around. Dreams come true, Dreams do
come true. Speaking of dreams coming true, this This blows
me my mind. Here Carmelo Anthony, who was a productive player,
but not a to me, he's not an all time
great NBA player. There is a shot that he is

(21:32):
going to have his number retired by both the Denver
Nuggets and the New York Knickerbockers. And this I'm anti
number retirement anyway, that's my I'll get that out of
the way first. That's my first thought. I think this
is ridiculous, the numbers retiring. I know teams do it
because it's tugg it's tugging at the heartstrings marketing and

(21:53):
make a big deal talking about great you used to
be and all that. But Carmelo Anthony all time great
for the for the Knickerbockers and the Denver Nuggets. Now
the Nuggets have actually finally accomplished something as a team
with Nicola Jokic. Carmelo Anthony was supposed to be what

(22:13):
Nicola Jokic is. He wasn't. Spoiler alert. It didn't work out.
And I remember when he went to the Knicks, we
were on the radio here at Fox and they essentially
gave Carmelo Anthony a trip down the canyon of heroes
that he was the great savior of the Knickerbockers, and
I had a couple of decent years with Carmelo Anthony,

(22:35):
but it wasn't the savior of the Knicks. The Knicks
were mediocre by the time he was done there, and
they continue to be pretty mediocre.

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Speaker 1 (23:18):
Did you see that quote from Adam Wainwright, the Cardinal
longtime pitcher. He was asked about Great American Ballpark and
he is asked, like, he's not done very well there.
It doesn't like it apparently, and he said he used
the Charles Barkley line. He said, with a Great American Ballpark, Cincinnati, Right, yeah, Cincinnati,

(23:39):
he says, someday when they when they demolish it, he said,
I would like to be the one to press the button.
I'll be here for that, he said. That is the
same quote that Charles Barkley gave me when he was
playing for the Houston Rockets and they at the LA
Memorial Sports Arena in downtown LA, the Mausoleum, and I
asked Charles any memories about the sports arena, and that's

(24:00):
when he said he would like to be the one
that blows it up. I don't think he got to
do that. There's a soccer stadium there now. I don't
think he got to actually hit the button. But that
was a Barkley quote back in the day. Is that
it any here? Are we done?

Speaker 9 (24:16):
We're done?

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Good? All right, We're good, all right, very nice. It
is the Ben Mahler Show. As we continue on, speaking
of the Red Sox got swept by the Angels, I
saw Alex Korra hitting the panic button. Corey Klueber one
of the only two or three players the Red Sox
picked up in the offseason. We'd heard of Corey Klueber,
who was good about seven years ago. Maybe, And he

(24:38):
has been removed forcefully from the Red Sox rotation and
has been demoted to the bullpen. Why because he sucks
at his job? That would be why he has a
problem getting people out consistently, which is part of the
requirement to be a successful big league pitchers. For Corey

(25:01):
Klueber has been demoted.

Speaker 10 (25:04):
Are they still throwing Chris Sale out there though?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, he's still a part of that rotation. He's still
out there. They're paying him a ton of money. They
better put him out there. That's a fair pint ton
of cash, Couber, not that much. Not much money there
for him. All right, Ben outhers show on Fox, It
is hockey season somewhere, and now a man that cuddles

(25:27):
with a puck Eddie Garcia, let's puck awel, there's We
are down for the final three, the final three in
the NHL.

Speaker 9 (25:38):
All right, thank you, Ben.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
It went quickly in the Eastern Conference Finals, but it
was a very competitive series. But in the end, Florida
Panthers sweeped the Carolina Hurricanes four games to nothing to
advance to the Stanley Cup Final for the second time
in franchise history. They won Game one three, two and
four overtimes. Second game two to one overtime, Game three
was a one of the win, and then four to three.

Speaker 9 (26:01):
They close it out in game four. So all one
goal games.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
But in the end, four games they feel better. They'll
feel much better.

Speaker 9 (26:08):
I mean they were. It wasn't It was a competitive series.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
But gets all the games, that's what happens.

Speaker 12 (26:14):
I don't know about that, gambler, Eddy, trust me, gamblers
for idiots.

Speaker 9 (26:18):
Matthew could chuck those Star.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
We'd like to let all our gambling sponsors know that
you're all idiots. Cordin, Eddy Garcia, go ahead, I.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
Agree, Matthew could chuck. Was huge in the series. Three
of the four game winning goals scored by him in
games one, two, and in game four. And the Panthers,
who made it into the playoffs on the final day
of the regular season only because the Pittsburgh Penguins choked
has now won eleven of twelve games this postseason. They
await the winner of the Vegas Golden Knights Dallas Star series,

(26:46):
which looks like it will probably end coming up later
on tonight as Vegas is rolling in this one, leading
it three games to nothing, and they won the first
game four to three in overtime, seid Game three two
and overtime, and then four nothing route in game number
three got in Dallas, fans.

Speaker 9 (27:02):
Routes routes when people play.

Speaker 6 (27:04):
Fans throwing things on the ice there in Dallas, they
actually had the end of the second period early so they
could clean up all the crap off the ice and
their captain, Jamie Benn for the Stars Crossjack Vegas captain
Mark Stone in the head while he was laying on
the ice. He got ejected from that game and the
NHL handing nun its punishment as he has been hit
with a two game suspension, so he will not play

(27:25):
in Game four coming up tonight, which if they lose,
carries over to next season. He would miss this season
openers as well, so he can go to.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
A baseball game. Like Raymond Green when he got suspended
in the NBA, he went to a baseball I suppose
it's possible.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
Some news from the NHL Kyle Dubas out as general
manager in Toronto. He had had that job for the
last five seasons. They made the playoffs all five years
and they even made it out of the first round
for the first time since two thousand and four this year,
but apparently some philosophical differences with Kyle with Brendan Shanahan,
president of the team, and so he's out and we'll

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see if he lands in Pittsburgh, which is the other
team looking for to fill a GM vacancy. That's because
the Calgary Flames filled their general manager of vacancy hiring
former Flames player Craig Conroy to be their next general manager.
And he was the assistant GM there for several years
and played for the team back in the day. Commissioner
Gary Bettman reportedly met with former head coach Joel Quinnville

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about him being reinstated in the league.

Speaker 9 (28:26):
You may remember him, we'll have to I remember.

Speaker 12 (28:29):
Did he have to kiss the ring? Is that what
he's doing podcast? He was three times Stanley Cup winning
coach of the Blackhawks. He's the second win he's coach
in Angel history. But he was fired by the Florida
Panthers after it came out that he lied to the
NHL and their investigation about a sexual assault of a
player when he was with the Blackhawks. So he apparently
has to get special permission to be able to coach again.

(28:50):
There are five coaching vacancies in the NHL. I assume
he's up for one of those jobs Rangers, Flames, Capitols,
Blue Jackets, and Ducks. Also, Stan Bowman was the GM
of the Blackhawks during that incident. He was also forced
to resign, and his name has come up as apparently
maybe a candidate in Pittsburgh or Toronto for their general manager.

Speaker 9 (29:09):
Rob as well.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
He I think he also needs special permission from Gary
Bettman as well as car Like, let's what do they?

Speaker 9 (29:17):
Yeah, maybe maybe take up some food form at the store.
Could be could be news on the Arizona Coyotes.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
You might remember they were trying to get that new
arena built in ten p and the voter said new.

Speaker 9 (29:29):
No, no new you.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
So President Jamiir Guterres sent out a letter to Coyote
season ticket order seeing the team is still committed to Arizona.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
That's gotta be great to send out that Letter's only
five people to That's not nice. Uh.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
He says that they have started to re engage with
local officials and sites to solidify a new home in
the valley. According to reports out of Phoenix, they have
reached out to Mesa, Arizona about a Fiesta Mall site
in East Valley. I'm not familiar with the ins and
outs of the area there, but apparently they're looking to try.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
The spring training home in the Chicago Cubs and not
far away from where Fox Sports Radio alumnus Turk Stevens lives. Yes, Turkey,
I was hung out with Turk when I was in
Phoenix for the Super Bowl and he lives kind of
near that area. So may I recommend Eddie the Yuma Coyotes.
How about that beautiful Yuma, Arizona.

Speaker 9 (30:22):
I think at this point, I think they'd take any
place right now.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Have you ever been to Yuma, Arizona.

Speaker 9 (30:26):
Eddie, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Have I been to Yuma? I'm gonna go no, Okay,
you have not. It is a It's on the border
between California and Arizona, and there ain't nothing within miles
of you Arizona. The Padres used to have some spring
training games there years, years and years ago. But it
is according to the Guinness World Records, it is the

(30:51):
sunniest city on Earth?

Speaker 9 (30:53):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yuma, Arizona?

Speaker 9 (30:55):
Fun fact, I don't know that I would have picked
Yuma for that one, but okay.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Did not have that on your big No, I didn't
I get there?

Speaker 9 (31:01):
You go?

Speaker 6 (31:02):
All right?

Speaker 9 (31:02):
That's your Puck the World Report.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
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time where the aforementioned very popular fact or fiction. So
let's get to the game right now. We welcome in
our celebrity panel of judges. I'll give you three stories.
You got to listen closely figure out which of the
three is not completely true. Part of it's not true,
then that is the fake story. All of it has
to be true. Let's see who do we have as

(33:04):
our panel of judges. We've got Leslie the power couple,
Braden and Florida with Jack the Judge. Top of the Morning,
to you, Leslie.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Top of the Morning, to you, Ben, how.

Speaker 12 (33:16):
Are you now?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I know that you and Jack are fans of the lightning,
but the Florida Panthers are in the Stanley Cup Finals.
So does that do anything for Jack? No, No, he
didn't care. I got you. I understand that.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
But we did spend quality time yesterday with Doug Flynn,
who was on the Mets a number of years.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Oh nice? Has he lived down there? Is he near you?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
He was visiting his brother who has her condo here?
So now we're personal friends.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Of course, of course you'll be biting him over for
the holidays and all that. I understand, yes, exactly, all right,
hold on his sake, Leslie. We have spin cycler Regina,
the hostess with the most This we'll put together that
great Mallard meet and greet in Minnesota.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Hello Regina, Hello baby, I want to be a personal
friend of Ellen j down in Florida. Yes, I would
love to be.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah in Florida, they would, Well we should. We absolutely
we get Leslie can can hang out with us? And
Jack the Judge will have a great time. Are you wonderful?
Hold on all right? We have Van, the one legged
Vama man. This is the guy that got his leg
bitten off by an alligator and then you went back

(34:35):
and killed the alligator and ate it. Hello. Van Hello, Benny,
how's your eye doing? Is your I okay? Is your
eye all right?

Speaker 8 (34:45):
Got the big surgery June the sixth, coming up? Okay,
I get I'll get knocked out for that one, so
I won't see the needle.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Better that way. It's better that way.

Speaker 7 (34:54):
You don't.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
That'll haunt you for a while if you see that. Okay, Man,
good to hear from you. Hold on a sec We
have Milkman Mike in Colorado. Hello, Milkman, Mike.

Speaker 7 (35:06):
Good mile high morning. Then it is a legend up
here in Denver.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, there you go. You're you got nugget fever.

Speaker 8 (35:15):
Yeah, nugga can five. I'm calling it already.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
Doesn't matter who we play.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Does don't even care who they play. I got you,
all right. Hold on a second, Mike, and a different Mike.
Mike in Minneapolis, Hello, Mike.

Speaker 8 (35:27):
Oh ahead, man, Sorry I missed you when you weren't
telling the other day.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's a bad job by you, Mike. It was a
great event. Regina went all out on that. We asked.

Speaker 7 (35:35):
I saw it on Twitter. I was I was tied up.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
You know, you know, come on, I understand life happens.
I get it. You're a grown up. You have things
to do. Hold on sick, Mike. We have Ferg Dog
Fergie in so call hello Ferg Dog.

Speaker 7 (35:50):
Hey man.

Speaker 8 (35:50):
I had a great time at the meet and greet.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
Thank you for doing that.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, and it was really cool. You were in the
back there and you were kind of hanging out in
the shadows. You were a little creepster back there, but
it was nicely you go off.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
Honestly, I don't remember going, but I saw my name
site on.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
The guest board you posted on Facebook, so I must
have been there.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, now you were clearly there, all right. Whole lot
of such though. Yeah, what's that for a goo? Story
Number one, Life in the fast Lane. Michael Jordan's getting older.
He's got a lot of money, so why not spend it.
He made two hundred and fifty six million last year
and all that from Nike money, and he decided to

(36:27):
go out and spend the three point five million on
a Hennessy Venom F five roadster seen goes three hundred
miles an hour. Unless we made that up, and that's
not a true story. Story number two, somebody named Michael
Block the biggest name in golf right now, unless he's
not for the insane run that he added the PGA
championship forty six years old. The club pro out of

(36:48):
California receiving tons of offers. The most interesting one is
from an adult website. The offer is three hundred thousand
dollars for a one year deal. But it's not what
you think. The website wants this guy block to be
their golf pro and actually give coaching tips and one
on one chats with their users. Okay, and starting number three,

(37:12):
the bird is the word you might have seen this
Cleveland Guardian outfielder Will Brennan kill the bird by accident
a hard ground ball. Second bird killed by the violent
sport of baseball. The past five days. This was caught
has caught the attention of PETA, and they've issued a
statement urging Major League Baseball to take preventative measures in

(37:32):
order to prevent the tragic death of more birds. All Right,
real quick, which of these stories isn't true? Leslie? One, two,
or three? Leslie?

Speaker 3 (37:41):
I'm gonna go with number one, number one?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
All right? We gotta go fast, Regina one, two or three?
All right? What about you man Ghosts? Alright, mug By.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
Mike number three?

Speaker 1 (37:59):
All right, ferg Dog, furg dog. Three three three it
is three. Three is the fake story. Mike in Minnesota,
You're out, But three is the fake one three the
bird story. Gotta murder, gotta go, Nothing to do.
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