June 17, 2025 • 39 mins
Brian Noe talks about the Pacers falling behind in the NBA Finals as Tyrese Haliburton has a bad Game 5, Bucs WR Chris Godwin adding "Jr." to his name, Aaron Rodgers and why he is one of the Top 5 jackasses in all of sports, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh what is going on?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We'll get back to Coop's craziness saying pie is vastly
superior to cheesecake. I've got worse news for you, worst
news another hot food take gone wrong from Coop. But
that's later in the show. It's all business, right, all
freaking business right here. So we had Game five of
the NBA Finals. I'm gonna get to some ball. Ball
(00:24):
is on the brain. Football is always on the brain.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Here.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
There is a former teammate who thinks that Aaron Rodgers
is not gonna have a great year, doesn't see the
Steelers making the playoffs, and his reasoning is pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
So I'll get to that here momentarily.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
First, though, I'm watching I'm rewatching Game five of the
NBA Finals. It's being replayed right now on ESPN, and
I'm just watching Halliburton in the second half, and he's
given him nothing. He's given the Pacers nothing. He's affected
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by his calf injury. And I bring this up again,
one because I'm watching it and it's right in front
of my face, and two because it just dawned on
me that in the postgame press conference, Rick Carlyle, the
PACER's head coach. He said this, He's like, clearly he's
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not one hundred percent. That's obvious, and then he went
on to talk about Tyrese Haliburton. But the important part
is he flat out told us he's like, yeah, he's
clearly not one hundred percent. He's absolutely affected out there.
And it's like, oh my gosh, dude, again you're seeing
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this but not doing anything about it. You gotta play
TJ McConnell gotta he had the goods in Game five.
Tyrese Haliburton didn't. And I realize Haliburton's your star player
and you want him out there and you want to
think the best. You've seen it time and time again
where he's hit big shots, he's had big impacts, those
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sorts of things, but he was affected by that calf injury,
something that Rick Carlyle detailed in the postgame press conference.
He's like, Hey, it's clearly not one hundred percent, But
I thought I'd just trot him out there because he's
our guy, right, Like it's like, hey, Rick, what about
McConnell eighteen points in twenty two minutes. How about just
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playing that guy instead of Haliburton, who, in your words,
is clearly not one hundred percent did you think about
doing that?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Why didn't you do that?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Right? So let's start it off here. We start with
Tyrese Halliburton. He's talking about playing despite his injury in
Game five tweak the calf muscle.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Here you go. I mean, he's NBA Finals. It's the finals.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Man. I've worked my whole life to be here, and
I want to be out there to compete. You know
how my teammates anyway, I can. You know, I was
not great tonight by any means, but uh, you know,
it's not really a thought of mine to to not
play here. You know, if I fucking uh you know, walk,
then then I want to play. So you know they
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understand that, and uh, you know is what it is.
And uh you know, got to be ready to go
for Game six.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Totally fine with that. That is the athlete's mentality right there. Hey,
if you if you can walk, just like you said,
you want to be out there.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And I know some people will look.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
At Tyres and say, hey, uh, this selfless thing to
do is to have a team first attitude and just
come to grips with hey, man, I'm not full go
here tonight. I'm hampered and McConnell's got it. I don't, Hey, coach,
put McConnell in there. That's not what athletes think and
say like, that's what makes athletes special. Is this abnormal
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belief in themselves elves and you want them to just
table that. So no, I hold, I don't know Tyrese
Haliburton acconnable for any of this. Every athlete, especially like
star athletes, are going to think that they can do
things that are pretty freaking out landish. And Haliburton has
done some outlandish things in these playoffs, some of.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
The shots that he's hit.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The shot against the Knicks to send it to overtime
was absurd, the Game one winner at OKAC where they
were on Monday night, same venue and everything. So of
course Tyree's Halliburton is gonna think, hey, I might not
be one hundred percent, but I can make a difference.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I want to be out there. I'm gonna be out there.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It's up to Rick Carlisle to say, hey, you don't
quite have it tonight. You know, sometimes you don't let
the bowl out of the cage. You keep the ball
in the cage. And that was the best opportunity to
do it.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Like watching the replay right now, they're just coin to
down showing McConnell hitting two straight shots, like right to
the paint bucket, driving to the rim bucket, another drive
to the rim, fade away bucket.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
They're just showing highlight after.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Highlight of McConnell doing work, and Halliburton's the ones getting
all these minutes in the fourth quarter. So this is
Rick Carlile, This is what really matters him talking about
Tyree's Halliburton's injury.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Check this out.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
He's not one hundred percent. It's pretty clear. But I
don't think he's gonna miss the next game. And you know,
we were concerned at halftime and he insisted I'm playing,
and I thought. I thought he made a lot of
really good things happen in the second half. But he's not.
He's not one hundred percent, you know, and there's a
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lot of guys in the series that aren't.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
He made a lot of really good things happen in
the second half. Follow up question, Rick, what would some
of those things be? Of the things that he made
happen that were really good. He had a couple of assists,
but no buckets, not a one all four points were
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from the free throw line. I just flat out disagree.
He told you he's like, he's not one hundred percent.
It's pretty clear. Okay, pause, how about I don't know,
playing the guy who is one hundred percent and had
the hot hand. No, no, no, okay, all right, that's
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does that makes sense? But all right, Rick, you're the
guy that has the ring with the MAVs, and who
am im media guy to question?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
But come on, man, think about that SoundBite. He's not
one hundred percent. It's pretty clear. And then I don't
know if he realized it toward the end of that
sound bite. People are gonna question why he was out
there for that many minutes and Macon wasn't. As McConnell
hits a deep shot wow on the replay crazy. That's
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it's almost like he was hitting shots all game long.
I don't know if Carlisle realized that halfway through the SoundBite.
And then he's like, but Haliberti, he made some really
good things happened in the second half, Like those what
those two assists? WHOA, those are big, they're big compared
to all the mishots and the lack of impact not
collapsing the defense, not being able to drive, like being
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half the version of himself we're accustomed to. Don't play
that guy. This is pivotal Game five. It's just a
missed opportunity. We got to get to this. I just
love the description Mark Dagnault, the Thunderhead coach. The description
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is the crowd puts the wind in our backs.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh that's terrible.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
That's I want to hear if he says that quote unquote.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Let's listen together. Here's Mark Dagnault.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I think the crowd puts the win at our back.
I'm always I always marvel at how enthusiastic and positive
they remain in the ebbs and flows of a game
or of a season. You know, they're always trying to
put the win at our back. They're always trying to
lift the team up. And I just think that's a
great spirit that's on display in all these games. But
they were amazing tonight, obviously.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I mean that's gonna be my main talking point if
there is a Game seven, I'm going to back okay, see,
because hey man, that crowd puts the wind at their backs,
and how are you going to compete with that? Are
you going to compete with the wind at their backs
due to that Oka see crowd.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
One other thing, some of the complaining is just obnoxious
with the NBA in particular, some of the whining about
the fouls. I understand the complaining about Game four when
SGA pushed off on Nie Smith and traveled and there
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was no call on either. I can fully understand complaining
as far as that goes. There's complaining about SGA getting
fouled on a tip on a jump ball. TJ McConnell,
who's much shorter and not jumping as high, trying to
tip the ball and instead tipped the wrist of SGA,
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and they called the foul because it was like, you
don't see fouls on tipped balls typically unless there is
a foul. I just thought some of the complaining is
just like, guys, they're worse than NBA players sometimes, you know,
sometimes the players like doing the index finger twirl, like
review that, review that.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And then you look at the replane and you're like.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Dude, it's like a foul all day, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
That was one of those complaints. I just didn't understand.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
There are tweets and everything about it, like this was
the first time ever NBA Finals history, there was a
foul on a tipped ball on a jump ball. I
don't want to keep saying tipped ball. It's because it
was a file he raked a across the wrist. What
do you want me to tell you? Update? McConnell hit another.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Shot, But let's get Let's get Halliburton and his lack
of impact back in there. Let's do that.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Clearly, not one hundred percent, it's pretty clear. Like in
Rick Carlyle's words, Let's get the guy who's not one
and it's pretty clear.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Let's get him right back on the floor.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Let's sit the guy with the hot hand who just
made a lefty layup look very easy. Let's get McConnell
on the bench. Halle halle, get in there. There a
lack of impact. We need a little more. Lack of
impact in a pivotal game. Five A great job, great,
great job. Thank goodness. I wasn't betting on the Pacers
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plus the points. It sounds like it sounds like this
whole monologue is driven solely by me being bent because
I backed the Pacers plus the points and Carlyle made
some shaky decisions with the lineup. It that's not it
at all. I didn't bet the Pacers. I didn't have
a bet on the side. I had to pick on
Indiana going over their team total, and they did.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
They got there by the way. Side note, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What it is with the Pacers on the road in
the second half of this series. They've been tremendous in
every second half, scoring the ball left and right. They
only had what like forty five points at halftime. They
ended with one oh nine. Like that's a healthy second
half against okc's defense. I just I would love to
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know how it would have unfolded if they played McConnell
Moore and Rick Carlisle sat Halliburton Moore.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Well, we'll never know. We'll never know the answer to
that question.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I think if Carlile's being completely honest with himself, he's
gotta be second guessing.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
That decision has to be how could you not? How
could you just be like, hey, dance with who brung you?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And that's that It's like not if that guy can't
get out there to dance, that changes the math completely.
All right, feel free to check in. Malan Militia always welcome.
We'll roll out the red carpet for you as McConnell
hits an and one.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Bucket in the paint. That's amazing. I didn't realize he
had this many points in the third quarter. Good lord,
he's like putting the pacers on his back. And then
he hardly got minutes in the fourth quarter. Oh my gosh.
It's even worse when you see the replay.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
When I'm watching the third, I don't know that mcconnald's
gonna sit for most of the fourth.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
He's like inspiring the team. They're coming back.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
The whole bench just erupted as he hit a shot
while getting filed by a couple of dudes.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It goes to the free throw line for the end
one unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
It's like, yeah, let's sit that guy. He's just inspiring everybody.
He's hitting shot after shot. Let's bring in the guy
who's injured. Let's definitely do that. It's just a terrible decision.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
All right.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
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Speaker 2 (13:48):
It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian no In for
Big Ben Malor. I'll tell you what Coop is, just
digging a deep, deep hole with this pie and she's
cake nonsense. My gosh, he's gotten Lee Robert Lap the Fourth,
my good friend, producer of two Pros and a Cup
of Joe. He's got him in on the madness. It's
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crazy what's happening behind the scenes at FSR.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Hey, Lee, that's right, that's a great drop right there.
I love that. I normally play like Beethoven or.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Something like that with uh with Lee Robert to Lap
the Fourth. By the way, we'll get to the pie
and cheese cake thing here in a bit but uh,
it does remind me.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
There is some news I always call Robert de lap
by his full full name. I love that, right with that,
Lorena very nice.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
I enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, I'm trying to get out here. It's Mozart. This
is what I normally do. Like whenever I introduce Lee,
I'll say, you.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Know, Lee, Robert, you have to have that.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
You have to have the Mozart in there, right, It's
the perfect way to introduce him. But wow, Yeah, Tampa
Bay wide receiver Chris Godwin has added a junior to
his name. Will be Chris Godwin Junior. Now, I don't
know about you, but when these when athletes add something
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to their name, I'm kind of like, oh gosh, you know,
I can't be the only one where you get so
used to calling a player by a certain name or
Keenan McCardell. He's like, I want you to pronounce a
little bit differently. It's not mccardal anymore. It's McCardell. And
you're like, good lord, dude, It's gonna take me years
to actually get that down. I'm still calling them the
San Diego Chargers, you know. But Chris Godwin Junior, he added,
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the junior because of his late father, and he wrote
something on social media. It was very very nice, thoughtful message,
and he explained he had an amazing relationship with his
dad from youth football through high school. His dad was
always there for him, yelling in support of his son,
and he had many other nice things to say about him.
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And he said he lost his pops in the January
of twenty twenty four and Father's Day last year was
a time of reflection and introspection. And then this year,
he said, Father's Day represents a full circle moment in
his life journey and he was celebrating for the first
time with his son Ace. By the way, great name,
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great name for a son, Ace, Godwin.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Now you're cooking right there. I love that.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
That's my nephew's name.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Ace.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yep, that's a tremendous name. Is his middle name of Spades?
Just no, that would be next level right there. Yeah,
And Godwin Junior said fatherhood has already been an unbelievable
experience and has changed me in so many ways. I
can only hope that Ace feels the same way about
me as I do about my dad. And then in closing,
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he added, as a professional athlete. You were always recognized
for the name on the front of your jersey, but
I also play for the name that printed on the back.
That's why I've chosen to add junior to my name
in honor of the man who gave so unselfishly of
himself to others and helped mold me into who I
am today. Love you, Pops, and that's why Tampa Bay
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wide receiver Chris Godwin has added junior. So I think
the backstory changes a lot there, and you should know.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I mean, that's that's where it stems from.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
You don't just like I'm gonna add junior, Like I'm
not Brian No Junior. My dad is Philip No, but
my middle name is Philip. But I can't just add
junior like. So it's obvious where it comes from, but
I don't know it just changed it hearing his words
for me, where I'm like, wow, okay, it's a lot
more impactful. I'm not gonna whind like I gotta learn
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a new name now, and it's so much longer than
it was before. It's okay. It's a point of pride.
It's a relationship, it's a bond. There's a deep meaning
to it. So I appreciate that from h Chris Godwin
Junior now at the junior there.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Not to take away from the deepness and the back
to Pye. No no, no, So how many can you
think of?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Off?
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Because I found that to be an interesting topic? And
I remember how many can you think of off the
top of your head athletes that did that okay, changed
how they wanted their name said after years of everybody
either saying it wrong or yeah. Because there's only one
that pops into my mind, even though I know there's
a lot more, I just can't think of him. Well,
I mean there are a lot. The maccardell one definitely
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jumps to my mind. I don't think I was alive
at the time. But Joe Thaisman, oh yeah, changing the
pronunciation rhyme with Heisman.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Sure, there have been other ones. What's the one on
your your mind right there?
Speaker 8 (18:48):
Though? Ronnie Tourry off and Ronny Tourry Off.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That's the one.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Huh you must be you're a Laker fan, you know, yeah,
Ronny Okay, that's the one.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, I'm just looking it up because I can't just
off the top of my head rattle off. I know,
juniors and seniors have been added to a lot of
NFL names.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
Yeah, I don't know if I'm talking about like pronunciation.
I know there was a more recent one, and I
just it's I'm.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Not sure about pronunciation, but I know Deebo Samuel did it.
Where the former Niners wide receiver. He added, I'm looking
it up right now, but I think he added senior.
I want to say senior, but let me make sure. Yeah,
Deebo Samuel senior. He added that to his name. There
have been examples of that, But I don't know about
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the pronunciation thing, though, Coop, that's a good question.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
At some point recently. I'm gonna do some research now. Yeah,
let me know if you uncover something right there. That's good.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
We got Coop off of the cheesecake topic because man,
getting rough there for a second.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
We'll get to that when we close.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
A good closing topic, you know, because we've had spirited arguments,
spirited debates about cheesecake and pie during breaks here on
the show.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Very nice.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So this was a former Fox Sports radio colleague, Brady Papinga.
I've done shows with Brady before, but Brady Papinga shared
a couple of thoughts about his former teammate Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And he doesn't think Rogers is gonna have.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
A great season, doesn't see the Steelers doing great things either,
and the reasoning is pretty interesting when he came up with, oh,
by the way, sidebar as, I'm questioning Rick Carlisle for
playing Tyrese Haliburton, who was affected by this calf injury.
They're replaying the game right now in ESPN and Haliburton
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is swatting the ball out of bounce. Maybe that's what
carl I was talking about the big impact in the
second half. There was that one ball he's swatted out
of bounds that they reviewed and it was okay, ces ball.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I don't know, I'm just being a smartess, but.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
This is what Brady Papinga had to say about Aaron Rodgers.
The reasoning is interesting, so he thinks Rogers is going
to struggle this season. Papinga was doing a recent interview
with Bill Ryder, who was also on Fox Sports Radio
as well, and Brady Papinga said that he went to
the Jets Patriots game last year and what stuck out
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to him was that Rogers' body seemed tired and like
he doesn't want to take the hit, and he said,
there's a lot of flinching. There's a lot of I
would say his vision is going from reading the field
to the rush, which isn't usually normal for high level quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
High level quarterbacks are.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Kind of able to feel the rush and then they're
able to then keep their eyes downfield. So he didn't
see that from Rogers last year. And he went on,
He's like, he's not calling him soft, he's not saying
any of that. He's just saying it causes you to flinch.
It's not being weak. It's not that he's not tough.
It's just that you're getting tired. He said, Tom Brady
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went through it, Brett Farv went through it, but everybody
goes through it in the game of football. And Papinko
was closing saying, the problem with that is that for
over seventeen games, he's not going to be able to
play at a caliber that's going to drive them to
be playoff contenders. That's his thought process right there. And
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so you start thinking about this and it's like Rogers
has been sacked five hundred and seventy one times in
his career. That's an NFL record for the most sacks
taken by a quarterback. And the first example I thought
of when Brady mentioned Tom Brady Brett Farv. The first
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thing I thought of with Brett Farvre was the nine
NFC title game. It is the famous game against the uh,
the Saints, and instead of scrambling for you know, five
seven yards setting up a long field goal, but a
makeable long field goal, Farv through the ball across his
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body middle of the field, picked off Tracy Porter. And
that's when the Vikings radio crew is like, how could
you even fathom passing at a time like this or
something like this was right along those lines there it is, Yeah,
very nice coop. By the way, it's Christian Pondeir right now.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I don't know if you knew they changed the.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But yeah, it's uh, that's exactly what Brady Papinka is
talking about. And Brett Farv took a beating that game.
Remember that that was the bounty gate game. That was
when you know, the crazy defensive coordinator was like.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Hit the head effect, it hit the head. Hit that
bastard in the head.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
He was just going off on Brett Farv in telling
the Saints to do that, and Greg Williams, the former
defensive coordinator in the NFL, and like Brett Farvett, looking back,
makes a lot of sense. Right, took so many hits
that game clearly could have scrambled, but that probably would
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have required another hit unless he slid, but probably wouldn't
do that with the game on the line the way
it was, And maybe it was a subconscious thing where
his body was like, yeah, just get rid of it
late across the middle, against the grain, throwing against your body, yeah, man,
might work out.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You're at least gonna avoid a hit.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You know, could have factored into that decision being made,
and so farv if you look at Rogers, I'll put
it this way, what Brady Papinga is explaining is very
valuable because it gets you away from box score analysis.
There's a lot of solely box score analysis. I don't
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think fundamentally there's anything wrong with just as a reference point. Hey,
what were Rogers numbers like last year? I don't think
there's anything fundamentally wrong with that. But when you're so
beholden to that and only considering it, I think that
can become a problem where if you look at Rogers,
he threw for nearly thirty nine hundred yards, so he's
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in the area of a four thousand yard season through
twenty eight touchdown passes eleven interceptions. His passer writing was
into that. You know, Rogers had a high level of attempts.
He had the second most attempts in the NFL, So
that's going to spruce up the numbers a bit. And
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also you think the Jets a five and twelve team,
a lot of garbage time, some prevent defense going on
right there, that's helping his numbers out. You take that
into account. That's just relating to box score analysis. But
what Brady is explaining gets you away from just looking
solely at numbers, and he's looking at you know, the
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way aging as an NFL quarterback often plays out. I
think that's very important to consider, absolutely I do. And
that's the other thing. You remember when Tom Brady, you know,
you want a Super Bowl. He's over forty years old.
He had a lot of success after turning forty, and
at the time, the popular opinion was like, oh, you
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can play into your mid forties now as an NFL quarterback,
it's all good. Look at Tom Brady he's doing He
just happens to be the goat, it doesn't mean it's
gonna be commonplace going forward. So I think that Tom
Brady is much more the exception to the rule.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
He's not like the standard. He's not the norm.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
This idea that you're just going to play well into
your age forty two, age forty three, age forty five
season like Brady did, like good luck, especially depending on.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Your style of play.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
That's why I think Russell Wilson has struggled at times.
Russ was a magician. I called him Russell Copperfield. He
was awesome at extending plays, you know, feeling the rush,
throwing moon balls. He really was a magician. And he's
not as athletic as he used to be. He doesn't
(27:40):
extend plays the same way he used to do, and
that's impacted his production. If you look at Aaron Rodgers,
what made Rogers elite and really special when he was
in his prime, it was his ability to extend plays,
work out side of structure, work outside the pocket, throw
off platform.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
He was mendus at that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
He's not able to do that the same way now
that he's older, now that he's banged up a lot
more often. He had the Achilles injury. Also last year
was dealing with a hammy, a knee, an ankle. All
this stuff accumulates and all of a sudden, to Brady
Papinga's point, you're not doing the same things outside of
the pocket. Maybe you are even subconsciously not looking downfield,
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and maybe you're looking at the oncoming rush. And maybe
this is getting close to sack number six hundred of
your career. That's a lot of wear and tear. So
I think there's absolutely something to what he's saying right there.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
That's gonna be an interesting season, I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I'll also tell you the Rogers, the blatant attention seeking
and then the downplaying of the attention that is then
like cultivated, is ridiculous. The thing last week was so ridiculous.
It was peak Rogers right there where he signs his
(29:06):
contract and he's clearly highlighting his wedding ring.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It's on the table.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
He's almost doing like the the female you know, a
social media post like the ring is like.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Hey check it out.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Ah, He's almost doing that when he's signing his contract.
Rogers is not a stupid guy. He is not stupid
by any stretch. Sometimes he's too smart for his own good,
not stupid. He knows that when his picture is being
taken while he's signing his contract, he knows that he's
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going to be asked questions about the wedding ring he's wearing.
And then when he's asked those questions, Hey, rogers, what's
up with the wedding ring?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Are you married? Well, what's going on over are you married?
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Are you married?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Are you married?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
He's like, Eh, yeah, I'm married a couple months ago.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It just downplay it, you know, like Joe Cool.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
It's like, bro, dude, what that's just such a jackass move.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'm sorry, it just is.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
It's like, it's one thing to seek attention that's not
fundamentally wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Most of us do it. Most of us.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Will go on social media and be like, I just
ate a ham sandwich. Ah, look at me, I want attention.
Not fundamentally wrong. You might take it to the extreme
and then it becomes annoying, but not fundamentally wrong. But
it's annoying when you clearly.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Seek attention, get attention, and then.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Downplay it like I don't really want this attention that
I clearly was seeking out in the first place.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
It's like bro how old is Roger's exactly this dude.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It acts like he's forty one going on like eleven.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
He wears me.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Out, man, But I'll tell you what, when the season
rolls around. As annoying as Rogers has been this offseason,
when the season rolls around, it will be more interesting
with him behind center. Would you rather have Mason Rudolph there?
He'd be more captivated, more interested, more compelled to call
(31:16):
in sports radio and get your take off on Mason Rudolph? Like, No,
Rogers is going to be much better for the league,
much better for your interest level, good or bad. You
got an opinion on him. That's the thing. He wears
me out in the off season. But I'm not going
(31:36):
to act like we'd be better off without him.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
We're not.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
We're not we're better off with him this season. It's
just hard to stomach all the other stuff, like all
the off the field stuff he's I'll tell you what, Man,
he has risen up the Jackass Power rankings for sure.
It's hard to surpass that guy right now. Antonio Brown
has him beat. Hey, he's got him beat. When you're
(32:02):
accused of grabbing a security guards gun and just firing
it out.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Well, heh you got him beat, got him beat.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
But Rogers is rapidly ascending the Jackass Power rankings. He's
at bare minimum top five right now, easily after the offseason.
He's had all right plenty to get to feel free
to check in Last Chance mallor Militia eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox. I see one of our good
friends is on hold. We'll get to him right around
(32:29):
the corner. Also, we'll see Coop has one last chance
to make a sterling argument about food slash pastries on
the way. I don't know why the hell you would
move at a time like this. It is the Big
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Speaker 2 (33:06):
It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm probably knowing for Big
Ben Mallard. Now, I think Lorena about like the intro music.
I think about e Dog, who had a very brief
stripping career. As we found out on the program. It's
big a kind of weird song for your background.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Music, imagining all the songs estripper songs.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Now, well, because you played Voodoo from Godsmack, Yes, which
definitely sets a mood right there, if you're so inclined to,
you know, frolic around a little bit to the boom
boom boom, as you said, Lorena.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
Right, yes, now this song might be interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Too, very interesting that you're much more like herky jerky
I feel like with your movements.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I don't. I don't know that this would work out
very well.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
A lot of metal stuff would not work out well
at all, not at all.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
But anyway, that's just me thinking out left.
Speaker 8 (34:04):
I actually saw a dancer performer or or no to
tool before I was a fan, before I.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Was a fan of that. Oh that's what did it?
Speaker 7 (34:16):
This tripper. My gosh, we just pieced this puzzle together.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
If not for this tripper, man, there would have been
hope for you, Coop House, that's exactly what digiton, man
oh Man, All right, let me go out to the
militia here. Mike the Leprechaun, our guy wants to check in. Mike,
you're on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
What's going on?
Speaker 9 (34:40):
Good money, it's raining in Boxton in.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Case you care, I always care what's going on in Boston?
Speaker 9 (34:45):
Mike Good, Well good. I changed my name last year too,
I became Mike the lepre There you go, Mohammad Ali, Yeah,
so he changes. That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (35:02):
Regarding women, I mean by Scott, he changes the doctor
birds shut up the birds of grief, my purkeys.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
All right.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Anyway, regarding women, I meant to women who are four
foot nine, preferably not named Lorena. They have read hair,
eighty four pounds, They like you two and Google dolls,
and they love going to the cheeks take factory.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Okay, very descriptive, Mike, Yeah, I told you.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
Do you hear the post small? An eighty five pound person?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Is?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
That is pretty small? Mike, that's like, well he.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Said four nine, so that's probably like a proper way
for a four nine person.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
But well, I'm six' one. I'm six foot one actually
in real life.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
And you identify as a leprechaun, you have issues.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
Loner, my god, all right, let me talk about Evers
Boston Boxton. Regarding Boxton sports, they traded away mer Well
Devon's was told on the on the plane going to
the next or whatever. They were outside. I think it
was Seattle. Anyway, the Boston has stitted away him, which
(36:11):
is good. Actually, they were in a six year row
winning streak march on Mookie Bets and Babe Rute so
very well. That's the history of Boxto sports. They shoot
themselves in the foot every time.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Well, at least they got more than just cash like
they got for Babe Ruth. You know, at least he
got some live bodies for Devers.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
That's good. That's a step in the right direction. I told,
I told, I'm just gonna hung up on him. Why
Coop was that you had your phil Yeah, okay, fair enough, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
I know, I know we were gonna ask him the question.
I forgot about that, but I just.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Oh, don't worry. He's just you know, no, that's okay.
You're telling me.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
He's like cheesecake right where you had a piece, and
I can't go for seconds.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's too thick.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Back to the name change thing real quick. In my research,
I did find out something that was interesting that I
so the story from three years ago that I had
never seen before. Okay, apparently Travis Kelsey's like family name,
yes is Kelse. Yeah, yeah, I did not know that.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Someone told me that. I was like, no, what.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
And I think they talked about it on their podcasts
yeah before, and it's like they just rolled with it.
Really that Okay, I had no idea either, but yeah,
someone told me that, like, yeah, you realize that's not
how you pronounce it correctly, right, And I'm like, no,
they wanted to have just rolled with something that's wrong.
Why would they do that and come to find out
(37:48):
I think that's exactly what they did. Yeah, that's pretty wild. Yeah,
and yeah we get the Mohammad Ali thing. We appreciate
Mike the Leprechaun junior.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
For pointing that out. Think it's just a joke. I
don't think it's a junior.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
But yeah, we're not talking just about the name change,
like you know, like Kareem abdul.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Jabbar or whatever.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
We're talking about the pronunciation changing or adding the senior
junior the second. Sometimes they'll do that, they'll add the
second to the last name or the full name. Yeah, okay, Coop,
So we've got a minute left.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
And I give you the floor.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I give you the floor either to dig your way
out or dig deeper on Team Cheesecake versus Team pie.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
The floor is yours.
Speaker 8 (38:37):
I just want to clarify that I love cheesecake. Cheesecake
is delicious, but you can only eat so much of it.
It's very rich pie you can have. I could eat
an entire pie. It's so good and it's not overwhelming.
And like I said earlier, there's just more variety of pie.
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If you feel like you want some things sweet and tart,
you can have key lime. If you want just something
like smooth and creamy, you can go banana cream. If
you want something like hearty and and you know rich,
you can go with the apple. Or if you if
you want a little bit of texture on there, you
can go Dutch apple.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
You know it's it's it's just so much cheesecake.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
We will reconvene and pick up where we left off
here
Oh what is going on?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We'll get back to Coop's craziness saying pie is vastly
superior to cheesecake. I've got worse news for you, worst
news another hot food take gone wrong from Coop. But
that's later in the show. It's all business, right, all
freaking business right here. So we had Game five of
the NBA Finals. I'm gonna get to some ball. Ball
(00:24):
is on the brain. Football is always on the brain.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Here.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
There is a former teammate who thinks that Aaron Rodgers
is not gonna have a great year, doesn't see the
Steelers making the playoffs, and his reasoning is pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
So I'll get to that here momentarily.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
First, though, I'm watching I'm rewatching Game five of the
NBA Finals. It's being replayed right now on ESPN, and
I'm just watching Halliburton in the second half, and he's
given him nothing. He's given the Pacers nothing. He's affected
(01:02):
by his calf injury. And I bring this up again,
one because I'm watching it and it's right in front
of my face, and two because it just dawned on
me that in the postgame press conference, Rick Carlyle, the
PACER's head coach. He said this, He's like, clearly he's
(01:22):
not one hundred percent. That's obvious, and then he went
on to talk about Tyrese Haliburton. But the important part
is he flat out told us he's like, yeah, he's
clearly not one hundred percent. He's absolutely affected out there.
And it's like, oh my gosh, dude, again you're seeing
(01:44):
this but not doing anything about it. You gotta play
TJ McConnell gotta he had the goods in Game five.
Tyrese Haliburton didn't. And I realize Haliburton's your star player
and you want him out there and you want to
think the best. You've seen it time and time again
where he's hit big shots, he's had big impacts, those
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sorts of things, but he was affected by that calf injury,
something that Rick Carlyle detailed in the postgame press conference.
He's like, Hey, it's clearly not one hundred percent, But
I thought I'd just trot him out there because he's
our guy, right, Like it's like, hey, Rick, what about
McConnell eighteen points in twenty two minutes. How about just
(02:30):
playing that guy instead of Haliburton, who, in your words,
is clearly not one hundred percent did you think about
doing that?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Why didn't you do that?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Right? So let's start it off here. We start with
Tyrese Halliburton. He's talking about playing despite his injury in
Game five tweak the calf muscle.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Here you go. I mean, he's NBA Finals. It's the finals.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Man. I've worked my whole life to be here, and
I want to be out there to compete. You know
how my teammates anyway, I can. You know, I was
not great tonight by any means, but uh, you know,
it's not really a thought of mine to to not
play here. You know, if I fucking uh you know, walk,
then then I want to play. So you know they
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understand that, and uh, you know is what it is.
And uh you know, got to be ready to go
for Game six.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Totally fine with that. That is the athlete's mentality right there. Hey,
if you if you can walk, just like you said,
you want to be out there.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And I know some people will look.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
At Tyres and say, hey, uh, this selfless thing to
do is to have a team first attitude and just
come to grips with hey, man, I'm not full go
here tonight. I'm hampered and McConnell's got it. I don't, Hey, coach,
put McConnell in there. That's not what athletes think and
say like, that's what makes athletes special. Is this abnormal
(03:58):
belief in themselves elves and you want them to just
table that. So no, I hold, I don't know Tyrese
Haliburton acconnable for any of this. Every athlete, especially like
star athletes, are going to think that they can do
things that are pretty freaking out landish. And Haliburton has
done some outlandish things in these playoffs, some of.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
The shots that he's hit.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The shot against the Knicks to send it to overtime
was absurd, the Game one winner at OKAC where they
were on Monday night, same venue and everything. So of
course Tyree's Halliburton is gonna think, hey, I might not
be one hundred percent, but I can make a difference.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I want to be out there. I'm gonna be out there.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
It's up to Rick Carlisle to say, hey, you don't
quite have it tonight. You know, sometimes you don't let
the bowl out of the cage. You keep the ball
in the cage. And that was the best opportunity to
do it.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Like watching the replay right now, they're just coin to
down showing McConnell hitting two straight shots, like right to
the paint bucket, driving to the rim bucket, another drive
to the rim, fade away bucket.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
They're just showing highlight after.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Highlight of McConnell doing work, and Halliburton's the ones getting
all these minutes in the fourth quarter. So this is
Rick Carlile, This is what really matters him talking about
Tyree's Halliburton's injury.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Check this out.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
He's not one hundred percent. It's pretty clear. But I
don't think he's gonna miss the next game. And you know,
we were concerned at halftime and he insisted I'm playing,
and I thought. I thought he made a lot of
really good things happen in the second half. But he's not.
He's not one hundred percent, you know, and there's a
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lot of guys in the series that aren't.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
He made a lot of really good things happen in
the second half. Follow up question, Rick, what would some
of those things be? Of the things that he made
happen that were really good. He had a couple of assists,
but no buckets, not a one all four points were
(06:12):
from the free throw line. I just flat out disagree.
He told you he's like, he's not one hundred percent.
It's pretty clear. Okay, pause, how about I don't know,
playing the guy who is one hundred percent and had
the hot hand. No, no, no, okay, all right, that's
(06:35):
does that makes sense? But all right, Rick, you're the
guy that has the ring with the MAVs, and who
am im media guy to question?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
But come on, man, think about that SoundBite. He's not
one hundred percent. It's pretty clear. And then I don't
know if he realized it toward the end of that
sound bite. People are gonna question why he was out
there for that many minutes and Macon wasn't. As McConnell
hits a deep shot wow on the replay crazy. That's
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it's almost like he was hitting shots all game long.
I don't know if Carlisle realized that halfway through the SoundBite.
And then he's like, but Haliberti, he made some really
good things happened in the second half, Like those what
those two assists? WHOA, those are big, they're big compared
to all the mishots and the lack of impact not
collapsing the defense, not being able to drive, like being
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half the version of himself we're accustomed to. Don't play
that guy. This is pivotal Game five. It's just a
missed opportunity. We got to get to this. I just
love the description Mark Dagnault, the Thunderhead coach. The description
(07:46):
is the crowd puts the wind in our backs.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh that's terrible.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
That's I want to hear if he says that quote unquote.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Let's listen together. Here's Mark Dagnault.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I think the crowd puts the win at our back.
I'm always I always marvel at how enthusiastic and positive
they remain in the ebbs and flows of a game
or of a season. You know, they're always trying to
put the win at our back. They're always trying to
lift the team up. And I just think that's a
great spirit that's on display in all these games. But
they were amazing tonight, obviously.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I mean that's gonna be my main talking point if
there is a Game seven, I'm going to back okay, see,
because hey man, that crowd puts the wind at their backs,
and how are you going to compete with that? Are
you going to compete with the wind at their backs
due to that Oka see crowd.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
One other thing, some of the complaining is just obnoxious
with the NBA in particular, some of the whining about
the fouls. I understand the complaining about Game four when
SGA pushed off on Nie Smith and traveled and there
(08:56):
was no call on either. I can fully understand complaining
as far as that goes. There's complaining about SGA getting
fouled on a tip on a jump ball. TJ McConnell,
who's much shorter and not jumping as high, trying to
tip the ball and instead tipped the wrist of SGA,
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and they called the foul because it was like, you
don't see fouls on tipped balls typically unless there is
a foul. I just thought some of the complaining is
just like, guys, they're worse than NBA players sometimes, you know,
sometimes the players like doing the index finger twirl, like
review that, review that.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And then you look at the replane and you're like.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Dude, it's like a foul all day, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
That was one of those complaints. I just didn't understand.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
There are tweets and everything about it, like this was
the first time ever NBA Finals history, there was a
foul on a tipped ball on a jump ball. I
don't want to keep saying tipped ball. It's because it
was a file he raked a across the wrist. What
do you want me to tell you? Update? McConnell hit another.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Shot, But let's get Let's get Halliburton and his lack
of impact back in there. Let's do that.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Clearly, not one hundred percent, it's pretty clear. Like in
Rick Carlyle's words, Let's get the guy who's not one
and it's pretty clear.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Let's get him right back on the floor.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Let's sit the guy with the hot hand who just
made a lefty layup look very easy. Let's get McConnell
on the bench. Halle halle, get in there. There a
lack of impact. We need a little more. Lack of
impact in a pivotal game. Five A great job, great,
great job. Thank goodness. I wasn't betting on the Pacers
(10:43):
plus the points. It sounds like it sounds like this
whole monologue is driven solely by me being bent because
I backed the Pacers plus the points and Carlyle made
some shaky decisions with the lineup. It that's not it
at all. I didn't bet the Pacers. I didn't have
a bet on the side. I had to pick on
Indiana going over their team total, and they did.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
They got there by the way. Side note, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What it is with the Pacers on the road in
the second half of this series. They've been tremendous in
every second half, scoring the ball left and right. They
only had what like forty five points at halftime. They
ended with one oh nine. Like that's a healthy second
half against okc's defense. I just I would love to
(11:31):
know how it would have unfolded if they played McConnell
Moore and Rick Carlisle sat Halliburton Moore.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Well, we'll never know. We'll never know the answer to
that question.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I think if Carlile's being completely honest with himself, he's
gotta be second guessing.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
That decision has to be how could you not? How
could you just be like, hey, dance with who brung you?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And that's that It's like not if that guy can't
get out there to dance, that changes the math completely.
All right, feel free to check in. Malan Militia always welcome.
We'll roll out the red carpet for you as McConnell
hits an and one.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Bucket in the paint. That's amazing. I didn't realize he
had this many points in the third quarter. Good lord,
he's like putting the pacers on his back. And then
he hardly got minutes in the fourth quarter. Oh my gosh.
It's even worse when you see the replay.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
When I'm watching the third, I don't know that mcconnald's
gonna sit for most of the fourth.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
He's like inspiring the team. They're coming back.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
The whole bench just erupted as he hit a shot
while getting filed by a couple of dudes.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It goes to the free throw line for the end
one unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
It's like, yeah, let's sit that guy. He's just inspiring everybody.
He's hitting shot after shot. Let's bring in the guy
who's injured. Let's definitely do that. It's just a terrible decision.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
All right.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
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It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian no In for
Big Ben Malor. I'll tell you what Coop is, just
digging a deep, deep hole with this pie and she's
cake nonsense. My gosh, he's gotten Lee Robert Lap the Fourth,
my good friend, producer of two Pros and a Cup
of Joe. He's got him in on the madness. It's
(14:10):
crazy what's happening behind the scenes at FSR.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Hey, Lee, that's right, that's a great drop right there.
I love that. I normally play like Beethoven or.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Something like that with uh with Lee Robert to Lap
the Fourth. By the way, we'll get to the pie
and cheese cake thing here in a bit but uh,
it does remind me.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
There is some news I always call Robert de lap
by his full full name. I love that, right with that,
Lorena very nice.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
I enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, I'm trying to get out here. It's Mozart. This
is what I normally do. Like whenever I introduce Lee,
I'll say, you.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Know, Lee, Robert, you have to have that.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
You have to have the Mozart in there, right, It's
the perfect way to introduce him. But wow, Yeah, Tampa
Bay wide receiver Chris Godwin has added a junior to
his name. Will be Chris Godwin Junior. Now, I don't
know about you, but when these when athletes add something
(15:17):
to their name, I'm kind of like, oh gosh, you know,
I can't be the only one where you get so
used to calling a player by a certain name or
Keenan McCardell. He's like, I want you to pronounce a
little bit differently. It's not mccardal anymore. It's McCardell. And
you're like, good lord, dude, It's gonna take me years
to actually get that down. I'm still calling them the
San Diego Chargers, you know. But Chris Godwin Junior, he added,
(15:41):
the junior because of his late father, and he wrote
something on social media. It was very very nice, thoughtful message,
and he explained he had an amazing relationship with his
dad from youth football through high school. His dad was
always there for him, yelling in support of his son,
and he had many other nice things to say about him.
(16:02):
And he said he lost his pops in the January
of twenty twenty four and Father's Day last year was
a time of reflection and introspection. And then this year,
he said, Father's Day represents a full circle moment in
his life journey and he was celebrating for the first
time with his son Ace. By the way, great name,
(16:24):
great name for a son, Ace, Godwin.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Now you're cooking right there. I love that.
Speaker 8 (16:28):
That's my nephew's name.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Ace.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yep, that's a tremendous name. Is his middle name of Spades?
Just no, that would be next level right there. Yeah,
And Godwin Junior said fatherhood has already been an unbelievable
experience and has changed me in so many ways. I
can only hope that Ace feels the same way about
me as I do about my dad. And then in closing,
(16:53):
he added, as a professional athlete. You were always recognized
for the name on the front of your jersey, but
I also play for the name that printed on the back.
That's why I've chosen to add junior to my name
in honor of the man who gave so unselfishly of
himself to others and helped mold me into who I
am today. Love you, Pops, and that's why Tampa Bay
(17:15):
wide receiver Chris Godwin has added junior. So I think
the backstory changes a lot there, and you should know.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
I mean, that's that's where it stems from.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
You don't just like I'm gonna add junior, Like I'm
not Brian No Junior. My dad is Philip No, but
my middle name is Philip. But I can't just add
junior like. So it's obvious where it comes from, but
I don't know it just changed it hearing his words
for me, where I'm like, wow, okay, it's a lot
more impactful. I'm not gonna whind like I gotta learn
(17:45):
a new name now, and it's so much longer than
it was before. It's okay. It's a point of pride.
It's a relationship, it's a bond. There's a deep meaning
to it. So I appreciate that from h Chris Godwin
Junior now at the junior there.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Not to take away from the deepness and the back
to Pye. No no, no, So how many can you
think of?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Off?
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Because I found that to be an interesting topic? And
I remember how many can you think of off the
top of your head athletes that did that okay, changed
how they wanted their name said after years of everybody
either saying it wrong or yeah. Because there's only one
that pops into my mind, even though I know there's
a lot more, I just can't think of him. Well,
I mean there are a lot. The maccardell one definitely
(18:33):
jumps to my mind. I don't think I was alive
at the time. But Joe Thaisman, oh yeah, changing the
pronunciation rhyme with Heisman.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Sure, there have been other ones. What's the one on
your your mind right there?
Speaker 8 (18:48):
Though? Ronnie Tourry off and Ronny Tourry Off.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That's the one.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Huh you must be you're a Laker fan, you know, yeah,
Ronny Okay, that's the one.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, I'm just looking it up because I can't just
off the top of my head rattle off. I know,
juniors and seniors have been added to a lot of
NFL names.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
Yeah, I don't know if I'm talking about like pronunciation.
I know there was a more recent one, and I
just it's I'm.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Not sure about pronunciation, but I know Deebo Samuel did it.
Where the former Niners wide receiver. He added, I'm looking
it up right now, but I think he added senior.
I want to say senior, but let me make sure. Yeah,
Deebo Samuel senior. He added that to his name. There
have been examples of that, But I don't know about
(19:42):
the pronunciation thing, though, Coop, that's a good question.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
At some point recently. I'm gonna do some research now. Yeah,
let me know if you uncover something right there. That's good.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
We got Coop off of the cheesecake topic because man,
getting rough there for a second.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
We'll get to that when we close.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
A good closing topic, you know, because we've had spirited arguments,
spirited debates about cheesecake and pie during breaks here on
the show.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Very nice.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So this was a former Fox Sports radio colleague, Brady Papinga.
I've done shows with Brady before, but Brady Papinga shared
a couple of thoughts about his former teammate Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
And he doesn't think Rogers is gonna have.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
A great season, doesn't see the Steelers doing great things either,
and the reasoning is pretty interesting when he came up with, oh,
by the way, sidebar as, I'm questioning Rick Carlisle for
playing Tyrese Haliburton, who was affected by this calf injury.
They're replaying the game right now in ESPN and Haliburton
(20:50):
is swatting the ball out of bounce. Maybe that's what
carl I was talking about the big impact in the
second half. There was that one ball he's swatted out
of bounds that they reviewed and it was okay, ces ball.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I don't know, I'm just being a smartess, but.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
This is what Brady Papinga had to say about Aaron Rodgers.
The reasoning is interesting, so he thinks Rogers is going
to struggle this season. Papinga was doing a recent interview
with Bill Ryder, who was also on Fox Sports Radio
as well, and Brady Papinga said that he went to
the Jets Patriots game last year and what stuck out
(21:30):
to him was that Rogers' body seemed tired and like
he doesn't want to take the hit, and he said,
there's a lot of flinching. There's a lot of I
would say his vision is going from reading the field
to the rush, which isn't usually normal for high level quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
High level quarterbacks are.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Kind of able to feel the rush and then they're
able to then keep their eyes downfield. So he didn't
see that from Rogers last year. And he went on,
He's like, he's not calling him soft, he's not saying
any of that. He's just saying it causes you to flinch.
It's not being weak. It's not that he's not tough.
It's just that you're getting tired. He said, Tom Brady
(22:15):
went through it, Brett Farv went through it, but everybody
goes through it in the game of football. And Papinko
was closing saying, the problem with that is that for
over seventeen games, he's not going to be able to
play at a caliber that's going to drive them to
be playoff contenders. That's his thought process right there. And
(22:37):
so you start thinking about this and it's like Rogers
has been sacked five hundred and seventy one times in
his career. That's an NFL record for the most sacks
taken by a quarterback. And the first example I thought
of when Brady mentioned Tom Brady Brett Farv. The first
(22:57):
thing I thought of with Brett Farvre was the nine
NFC title game. It is the famous game against the uh,
the Saints, and instead of scrambling for you know, five
seven yards setting up a long field goal, but a
makeable long field goal, Farv through the ball across his
(23:20):
body middle of the field, picked off Tracy Porter. And
that's when the Vikings radio crew is like, how could
you even fathom passing at a time like this or
something like this was right along those lines there it is, Yeah,
very nice coop. By the way, it's Christian Pondeir right now.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I don't know if you knew they changed the.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But yeah, it's uh, that's exactly what Brady Papinka is
talking about. And Brett Farv took a beating that game.
Remember that that was the bounty gate game. That was
when you know, the crazy defensive coordinator was like.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Hit the head effect, it hit the head. Hit that
bastard in the head.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
He was just going off on Brett Farv in telling
the Saints to do that, and Greg Williams, the former
defensive coordinator in the NFL, and like Brett Farvett, looking back,
makes a lot of sense. Right, took so many hits
that game clearly could have scrambled, but that probably would
(24:27):
have required another hit unless he slid, but probably wouldn't
do that with the game on the line the way
it was, And maybe it was a subconscious thing where
his body was like, yeah, just get rid of it
late across the middle, against the grain, throwing against your body, yeah, man,
might work out.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You're at least gonna avoid a hit.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You know, could have factored into that decision being made,
and so farv if you look at Rogers, I'll put
it this way, what Brady Papinga is explaining is very
valuable because it gets you away from box score analysis.
There's a lot of solely box score analysis. I don't
(25:12):
think fundamentally there's anything wrong with just as a reference point. Hey,
what were Rogers numbers like last year? I don't think
there's anything fundamentally wrong with that. But when you're so
beholden to that and only considering it, I think that
can become a problem where if you look at Rogers,
he threw for nearly thirty nine hundred yards, so he's
(25:35):
in the area of a four thousand yard season through
twenty eight touchdown passes eleven interceptions. His passer writing was
into that. You know, Rogers had a high level of attempts.
He had the second most attempts in the NFL, So
that's going to spruce up the numbers a bit. And
(25:55):
also you think the Jets a five and twelve team,
a lot of garbage time, some prevent defense going on
right there, that's helping his numbers out. You take that
into account. That's just relating to box score analysis. But
what Brady is explaining gets you away from just looking
solely at numbers, and he's looking at you know, the
(26:21):
way aging as an NFL quarterback often plays out. I
think that's very important to consider, absolutely I do. And
that's the other thing. You remember when Tom Brady, you know,
you want a Super Bowl. He's over forty years old.
He had a lot of success after turning forty, and
at the time, the popular opinion was like, oh, you
(26:44):
can play into your mid forties now as an NFL quarterback,
it's all good. Look at Tom Brady he's doing He
just happens to be the goat, it doesn't mean it's
gonna be commonplace going forward. So I think that Tom
Brady is much more the exception to the rule.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
He's not like the standard. He's not the norm.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
This idea that you're just going to play well into
your age forty two, age forty three, age forty five
season like Brady did, like good luck, especially depending on.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Your style of play.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
That's why I think Russell Wilson has struggled at times.
Russ was a magician. I called him Russell Copperfield. He
was awesome at extending plays, you know, feeling the rush,
throwing moon balls. He really was a magician. And he's
not as athletic as he used to be. He doesn't
(27:40):
extend plays the same way he used to do, and
that's impacted his production. If you look at Aaron Rodgers,
what made Rogers elite and really special when he was
in his prime, it was his ability to extend plays,
work out side of structure, work outside the pocket, throw
off platform.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
He was mendus at that.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
He's not able to do that the same way now
that he's older, now that he's banged up a lot
more often. He had the Achilles injury. Also last year
was dealing with a hammy, a knee, an ankle. All
this stuff accumulates and all of a sudden, to Brady
Papinga's point, you're not doing the same things outside of
the pocket. Maybe you are even subconsciously not looking downfield,
(28:26):
and maybe you're looking at the oncoming rush. And maybe
this is getting close to sack number six hundred of
your career. That's a lot of wear and tear. So
I think there's absolutely something to what he's saying right there.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
That's gonna be an interesting season, I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I'll also tell you the Rogers, the blatant attention seeking
and then the downplaying of the attention that is then
like cultivated, is ridiculous. The thing last week was so ridiculous.
It was peak Rogers right there where he signs his
(29:06):
contract and he's clearly highlighting his wedding ring.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It's on the table.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
He's almost doing like the the female you know, a
social media post like the ring is like.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Hey check it out.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Ah, He's almost doing that when he's signing his contract.
Rogers is not a stupid guy. He is not stupid
by any stretch. Sometimes he's too smart for his own good,
not stupid. He knows that when his picture is being
taken while he's signing his contract, he knows that he's
(29:42):
going to be asked questions about the wedding ring he's wearing.
And then when he's asked those questions, Hey, rogers, what's
up with the wedding ring?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Are you married? Well, what's going on over are you married?
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Are you married?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Are you married?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
He's like, Eh, yeah, I'm married a couple months ago.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It just downplay it, you know, like Joe Cool.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
It's like, bro, dude, what that's just such a jackass move.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'm sorry, it just is.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
It's like, it's one thing to seek attention that's not
fundamentally wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Most of us do it. Most of us.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Will go on social media and be like, I just
ate a ham sandwich. Ah, look at me, I want attention.
Not fundamentally wrong. You might take it to the extreme
and then it becomes annoying, but not fundamentally wrong. But
it's annoying when you clearly.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Seek attention, get attention, and then.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Downplay it like I don't really want this attention that
I clearly was seeking out in the first place.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
It's like bro how old is Roger's exactly this dude.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It acts like he's forty one going on like eleven.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
He wears me.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Out, man, But I'll tell you what, when the season
rolls around. As annoying as Rogers has been this offseason,
when the season rolls around, it will be more interesting
with him behind center. Would you rather have Mason Rudolph there?
He'd be more captivated, more interested, more compelled to call
(31:16):
in sports radio and get your take off on Mason Rudolph? Like, No,
Rogers is going to be much better for the league,
much better for your interest level, good or bad. You
got an opinion on him. That's the thing. He wears
me out in the off season. But I'm not going
(31:36):
to act like we'd be better off without him.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
We're not.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
We're not we're better off with him this season. It's
just hard to stomach all the other stuff, like all
the off the field stuff he's I'll tell you what, Man,
he has risen up the Jackass Power rankings for sure.
It's hard to surpass that guy right now. Antonio Brown
has him beat. Hey, he's got him beat. When you're
(32:02):
accused of grabbing a security guards gun and just firing
it out.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Well, heh you got him beat, got him beat.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
But Rogers is rapidly ascending the Jackass Power rankings. He's
at bare minimum top five right now, easily after the offseason.
He's had all right plenty to get to feel free
to check in Last Chance mallor Militia eight seven, seven
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friends is on hold. We'll get to him right around
(32:29):
the corner. Also, we'll see Coop has one last chance
to make a sterling argument about food slash pastries on
the way. I don't know why the hell you would
move at a time like this. It is the Big
(32:50):
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Speaker 2 (33:06):
It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm probably knowing for Big
Ben Mallard. Now, I think Lorena about like the intro music.
I think about e Dog, who had a very brief
stripping career. As we found out on the program. It's
big a kind of weird song for your background.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Music, imagining all the songs estripper songs.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Now, well, because you played Voodoo from Godsmack, Yes, which
definitely sets a mood right there, if you're so inclined to,
you know, frolic around a little bit to the boom
boom boom, as you said, Lorena.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
Right, yes, now this song might be interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Too, very interesting that you're much more like herky jerky
I feel like with your movements.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
I don't. I don't know that this would work out
very well.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
A lot of metal stuff would not work out well
at all, not at all.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
But anyway, that's just me thinking out left.
Speaker 8 (34:04):
I actually saw a dancer performer or or no to
tool before I was a fan, before I.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Was a fan of that. Oh that's what did it?
Speaker 7 (34:16):
This tripper. My gosh, we just pieced this puzzle together.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
If not for this tripper, man, there would have been
hope for you, Coop House, that's exactly what digiton, man
oh Man, All right, let me go out to the
militia here. Mike the Leprechaun, our guy wants to check in. Mike,
you're on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
What's going on?
Speaker 9 (34:40):
Good money, it's raining in Boxton in.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Case you care, I always care what's going on in Boston?
Speaker 9 (34:45):
Mike Good, Well good. I changed my name last year too,
I became Mike the lepre There you go, Mohammad Ali, Yeah,
so he changes. That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (35:02):
Regarding women, I mean by Scott, he changes the doctor
birds shut up the birds of grief, my purkeys.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
All right.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Anyway, regarding women, I meant to women who are four
foot nine, preferably not named Lorena. They have read hair,
eighty four pounds, They like you two and Google dolls,
and they love going to the cheeks take factory.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Okay, very descriptive, Mike, Yeah, I told you.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
Do you hear the post small? An eighty five pound person?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
Is?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
That is pretty small? Mike, that's like, well he.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Said four nine, so that's probably like a proper way
for a four nine person.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
But well, I'm six' one. I'm six foot one actually
in real life.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
And you identify as a leprechaun, you have issues.
Speaker 9 (35:50):
Loner, my god, all right, let me talk about Evers
Boston Boxton. Regarding Boxton sports, they traded away mer Well
Devon's was told on the on the plane going to
the next or whatever. They were outside. I think it
was Seattle. Anyway, the Boston has stitted away him, which
(36:11):
is good. Actually, they were in a six year row
winning streak march on Mookie Bets and Babe Rute so
very well. That's the history of Boxto sports. They shoot
themselves in the foot every time.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Well, at least they got more than just cash like
they got for Babe Ruth. You know, at least he
got some live bodies for Devers.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
That's good. That's a step in the right direction. I told,
I told, I'm just gonna hung up on him. Why
Coop was that you had your phil Yeah, okay, fair enough, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
I know, I know we were gonna ask him the question.
I forgot about that, but I just.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Oh, don't worry. He's just you know, no, that's okay.
You're telling me.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
He's like cheesecake right where you had a piece, and
I can't go for seconds.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's too thick.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Back to the name change thing real quick. In my research,
I did find out something that was interesting that I
so the story from three years ago that I had
never seen before. Okay, apparently Travis Kelsey's like family name,
yes is Kelse. Yeah, yeah, I did not know that.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Someone told me that. I was like, no, what.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
And I think they talked about it on their podcasts
yeah before, and it's like they just rolled with it.
Really that Okay, I had no idea either, but yeah,
someone told me that, like, yeah, you realize that's not
how you pronounce it correctly, right, And I'm like, no,
they wanted to have just rolled with something that's wrong.
Why would they do that and come to find out
(37:48):
I think that's exactly what they did. Yeah, that's pretty wild. Yeah,
and yeah we get the Mohammad Ali thing. We appreciate
Mike the Leprechaun junior.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
For pointing that out. Think it's just a joke. I
don't think it's a junior.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
But yeah, we're not talking just about the name change,
like you know, like Kareem abdul.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Jabbar or whatever.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
We're talking about the pronunciation changing or adding the senior
junior the second. Sometimes they'll do that, they'll add the
second to the last name or the full name. Yeah, okay, Coop,
So we've got a minute left.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
And I give you the floor.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I give you the floor either to dig your way
out or dig deeper on Team Cheesecake versus Team pie.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
The floor is yours.
Speaker 8 (38:37):
I just want to clarify that I love cheesecake. Cheesecake
is delicious, but you can only eat so much of it.
It's very rich pie you can have. I could eat
an entire pie. It's so good and it's not overwhelming.
And like I said earlier, there's just more variety of pie.
(38:58):
If you feel like you want some things sweet and tart,
you can have key lime. If you want just something
like smooth and creamy, you can go banana cream. If
you want something like hearty and and you know rich,
you can go with the apple. Or if you if
you want a little bit of texture on there, you
can go Dutch apple.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
You know it's it's it's just so much cheesecake.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
We will reconvene and pick up where we left off
here
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