McCarthy is a Safe Hire, Not a Great Hire

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on today's show, the Dallas Cowboys welcome Mike McCarthy as coach.
Did Jerry Jones win the news conference? We examine the
NFL is being called out for not hiring enough minority coaches.
But our quotas really the answer. Greg Popovich, the forefather
of load management. But he laughed and denied that that

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is the case. We take a look at that, and
Kyle Rudolph, the red nose tight end of the Vikings,
admitted he got hoodwinked by a member of the media.
And now the internet is trying to crack the case.
We'll talk about that as well, all those stories and
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Thank you for listening. So I wanted to let it

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play because occasionally people say, well you talk right away,
stop talking so much. All right to talk radio show.
The Cowboys rolling out the red carpet. Nobody knows how
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Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on
your car insurance. So if you listen to sports talk radio.
You know generally how this stuff works. This time of
the year, we're in between NFL playoff weekends, and so

(02:39):
as we get closer to the end of the week,
we start looking more at the NFL playoff games. But
the coaching carousel goes round and round and round and
round and round and round and round and round and
round and round and round. And when it stops, it
doesn't really stop because then you have the introductory news conference,
which is always a fun thing because there's a lot
of I wish I could say the word I would

(03:01):
like to say a lot of very interesting things that
happened at these news conferences. Now the Dallas Cowboys, who
everything's bigger in Texas, right, It's one of the mottos
of some marketing firm years ago, but everything's bigger in Texas.
So Mike McCarthy, who I read last August, was on
a boat and imagine you'd go buy a boat in

(03:23):
McCarthy's laying out getting some sun there on the boat.
But I don't know, maybe he was, maybe it's fishing,
you know, maybe it's on a fisherman boat. I don't know.
But Mike McCarthy, the old Packers coach, they're introduced, and
they went big. They went big in this one. And
we'll hear from Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy in a minute.

(03:44):
But there was a table set up at the practice
facility of the Cowboys, which is I think bigger than
several airports and medium sized cities in the United States.
And they went on and on and on, and it
was a lot of grabass, a lot of rabass, Lota, Hey,
you're great, No, you're great. No, I love you, I
love you more. It's like a urinating contest where everyone's

(04:07):
trying to one up each other. Right, the spitting match
is what it is. That's another way to say it. Well,
let's hear from Jerry Jones here. And Jerry went on
and on and on about Mike McCarthy loves the resume.
You get these jobs because of the resume. Listen to
Jerry talk about how excited he is about McCarthy because
of the experience. One of our primary goals in selecting

(04:31):
the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys was to focus
on a proven team builder, and Mike McCarthy we found
a coach who not only check those boxes but also
has the experience of taking an NFL team to the
biggest stage of the Soaper Bowl. Yeah, something I haven't
been at, so I had a different faces what he

(04:53):
went on to say, Yes, Hi know, Hey, nothing wrong
with plastic surgery if you can afford it. Anyway, here's
more from Jerry. Joe owns who points, you know, to
talk about the hiring of McCarthy's whole things about the
hiring of McCarthy, and it talks about the setup to
get McCarthy to Dallas. Yes, we needed, we needed a coach.

(05:17):
But to have his availability to the coach and to
have his track record and ability to check all the
boxes that I just talked about was fortuitous for this franchise. Yeah,
that was the word of the day. Fortuitous. Now is
Jerry regularly use the word fortuitous or is that a
word that he went to the internet and it's like, well,

(05:39):
I don't think Jerry uses the internet. It's not a
word you hear all the time, but there it is,
big headlines Jerry Jones, State run NFL media. Jerry Jones
calls McCarthy hiring fortuitous. It's a good word. You know
what a synonym of fortuitous is you know we play
password once a week. You should know your synonyms. And
the synonym for work for twous is like unexpected and unanticipated,

(06:04):
another synonym unforeseen, another one you could throw out there
for that word. All right, here's more from Jerry Jones,
and he points out even before he had Mike McCarthy
stayed his home, he says, I had a special, special
inkling when it comes to this coach. I knew Mike

(06:24):
McCarthy before he ever walked through these doors, and I
knew it from a lot of different directions. Stockhol that
while our time together initially talking about this job was meaningful,
so much more went into how and why he's sitting
at this table to day, Yeah, so much more. What

(06:46):
happened at that house, what happened and what kind of
I don't know if they consummated the relationship. I don't
know what happened there, but they are apparently together. They're
an item. Mike McCarthy. It was really an odd visual.
We'll get to that coming up. Here's radio because you
can't really see anything. But I watched the I didn't

(07:06):
watch it live because I was trying to sleep, but
I didn't really sleep. But then I watched the YouTube
video and it was it was quite amusing. So Mike McCarthy,
now he's this big, chubby guy. He gets up there
and is a just a ball of motion. Is listen
he breaks up within a few seconds. This past year

(07:28):
has been a year of reflection. My wife said, I
want Mica through ten words. I think I got to
about six. So he's either really excited to coach the Cowboys.
He's like, oh my god, I've just ruined my career.
I'm coaching the Dallas Cowboys. I'm gonna start crying because
I'll never get another job after you make the call.

(07:50):
It's like those old NFL commercials. Mike McCarthy was a
ball of tears because he's excited. Or he's like, oh
my god, I'm a prisoner. I'm a prisoner in Jerry's jail,
is what I am. I anyway, Yeah, here's more from
Mike McCarthy, and it's story time. Story time with Mike McCarthy.
I didn't need to tell a story about Saturday night

(08:11):
when I was here on the interview. Jerry's telling a
story about the purchase of the Dallas Cowboys, and at
the end of the story he leans over to me
and he grabs him by the forearm and reaches out
to shake my hand. He says, and you need to
be the coach on the Dallas Cowboys. So I dropped
off and hogged him, and I'll stop right there. We
had a hell of a time. Wow, how much alcohol

(08:35):
did Jerry have that night? I love you? I love you.
So I'm guessing like Joe Namath, remember that famous years ago.
Look if you don't know, look it up on YouTube.
Joe Namath on a Monday night game to the sideline
reporter Susie Colber, I love you. I want to kiss you.
That sounds like Jerry Jones. All right, so let's discuss

(08:56):
the question. What was your takeaway from Mike McCarthy's Welcome
to Big D. So I've got Andy Warhol, bond, bonds,
and office politics, and we will combine all these things together. Now, Hey,
this was a standard opening news conference with a little
extra pazzaz because it's the Cowboys. Jerry Jones knows how

(09:18):
to throw a party. As we said, he listed a
handful of reason. We played some of the sound bites there.
He went on and on. He kept talking about how
wonderful this higher was command leadership of a team, experienced knowledge,
knows everybody in the NFL. He's got context everywhere, contacts
all over the place, natural instinct for the game. He

(09:39):
was really going on. And I need to point out
that Jerry Jones, and I was reminded of this when
I watched the news conference, is an artist. But much
like that famous quote from Andy Warhol who taught us,
an artist is somebody who produces things that people don't
need to have. In Jerry Jones case, like cowboy football.

(09:59):
But he's not Michelangelo or van Gogh or Rembrandt. No,
he is a BS artist. Remember, a BS artist is
gonna BS artist, gonna serve up some fertilize. Jerry is
the propaganda minister of the Cowboys, in addition to being
the Owner's really good at like, what did you expect him?

(10:20):
He expected that Jerry Jones was gonna get up at
the dais and say, man, Mike McCarthy didn't get along
with Aaron Rodgers. How do you not get along with
Aaron Rodgers your coach quarterback relationship? And let me tell
you something. He could eat one less cheeseburger or a
week all right, less on the cheeseburgers and fries. Now, Jerry,

(10:41):
come on, this is all about myth making, telling whimsical anecdotes,
urban legends. Jerry said he heard bells when hiring Mike
McCarthy said he heard bells. Again, I go back to
the previous comment. Kind of maybe he was in an
Astro's game, that's true. Maybe he was watching a J.

(11:02):
Hinch manage the Astros or possibly Alex coramaans the Red Sox.
But anyway, so yeah, he said he heard bells. He
painted Mike McCarthy as this mythical lumberjack living in the
woods is essentially what he did. Now. Part B here,
Former coach Jason Garrett was a hot topic of conversation

(11:22):
at Mike McCarthy's big shindig, and it was whispered, though
in hush tones, because Jerry Jones seemed genuinely hurt that
he had to fire Chason Garrett. And reports say that
there was a chance right up until the weekend that

(11:42):
the Cowboys would have kept Jason Garrett, like if they
had not gotten Mike McCarthy that this is of course
all hearsay, so take it with a grant salt. But
but that's not really breaking news. We had said as
much that Jerry did not want to get rid of
Jason Garrett. Jones also said he wanted a soft landing
for Jason Garrett, so he'll get him a bed of
pillows that he can fall on. And it's it's like

(12:05):
one of those it's not you, it's it's me type
of deals. So, you know, somewhere Jason Garrett was eating
bond bonds, those ice cream bond bonds, and it was
a glass case of emotion, all right, watching this. And
you know, although he is such a Jerry Jones sock puppet,
I'm guessing, knowing the pedigree of Jason Garrett, that while

(12:27):
watching the Mike McCarthy news conference, he broke out an
applause because the clapper is going to clap. That's what
the clapper does. And Jerry Jones told the media that
he got an unusual recommendation from Mike McCarthy. You want
to guess who recommended Mike McCarthy, Ding Ning Ning Ning Ning,
Jason Garrett. Yeah, I think this guy would be good

(12:47):
to replace. I think he's pretty good. You think Jason's like, hey,
I could be the offensive coordinator, you know, I mean
I could keep my office and I'll be the offensive
coordinator and I'll get to see every day Jerry. We
can cuddle now, all right, last word, So, now this
is a dangerous road. It's kind of like driving in
certain parts of Mexico where the cartels are dangerous, right,

(13:10):
not safe at all. I'm talking about for Dak Prescott
and Zeke Kelly because the popular opinion is that Jason
Garrett is the village idiot. He was the problem. He
was the one that was holding back the progression of
Dak Prescott and Zeke Kelley in terms of being winning
players and the team being a winning team. So Dallas,
everyone said that lead roster, they're loaded, and they keep

(13:34):
having meltdowns, and it's because of the clapper. It's the
Clapper's fall. Well, now, if they have a similar nosedive,
if that continues in twenty twenty under Mike McCarthy's watch,
and they wet the bed again, Dallas, then you can
move the bull's eye to Jerry Jones, Dak Prescott, and

(13:55):
Zeke Elliott say what about that? What about that? They
all have some explain to you. So, Mike McCarthy, they
will if this goes the way it typically does for
Jerry Jones, and Mike McCarthy is a safe hire. He's
not a great hire. We said this the other day.
It is an unadventurous move. It's boring. Now. That's set

(14:17):
These coaching tenures. We often point out they're like relationships.
There's that hunting moon phase when you hire a new coach.
You're like, oh, he won a Super Bowl. Oh he's great.
Come on, he's in the playoffs every year. The fans
love him, the players are like, hey, that's pretty cool.
That's always before you play a game. Then you play
a game, and usually that continues for a season. Then

(14:38):
there's that comfort phase for a year or two where
the buzz has kind of faded away, but you're still Okay,
this guy's a good coach. We're happy about that. And
then at some point the relationship has run his course.
Now Mike McCarthy overstayed his welcome at lambeau Field, and
he won't have to worry about that with Jerry because

(15:00):
all of this is inside. It is just irrelevant in
the standpoint that you've got office politics. Jerry Jones is
picking the players. Jerry Jones has been and will be
the overlord of all things Cowboys. I would do the
same thing. You would do the same thing if you

(15:21):
owned an NFL team, you absolutely would. So Jerry's not
gonna change. You think he's gonna change. No, no, no, no,
no no. He is going to continue to be a
backseat driver while sitting in the front Seat's odd how
that works. But he's got the same issues are going
to continue around the Cowboys. Now, maybe they'll win anyway,

(15:44):
Now it is possible I can't win because Jerry Jones
is a meddling owner. And plenty of teams that have
had meddling owners that have won championships in every sport.
So that's an excuse, that's a rationalization. But even win
with a meddling owner. So on a positive note, Mike
McCarthy is another fat NFL coach. We need more fat

(16:07):
coaches in the NFL. We've got Matt Patricia, Andy Reid,
and now McCarthy is back in the mix. How great
is it if you own a barbecue restaurant in Dallas
or a steakhouse in Dallas. This guy, let me tell
you something, Mike, remember Arlington where the Cowboys are. Because
Mike McCarthy, we're gonna He's gonna help your business, is
what he's gonna do. Anyway. It is the Ben Mallers

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did you go to school with John Carlos? I did
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he a juror? No? He was totally nice. He was nice. Yeah,
anybody else like Notre name is a powerhouse in southern California,

(17:10):
like in Sherman Oaks here where we do the show
from him and there's a lot of athletes that have
gone on to have good careers from there, and other
like actors and all kinds of people. Uh yeah, a
lot of kids of actors, for sure. All kids have
actors are like the spawn of the Yeah, yeah, I
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a very powerful person here at Fox Sports radiole So
are you on the powerful alumni list right next to

(17:30):
John Carlos slash Mike stan Uh. Some circles are bigger
than others. Yeah, yeah, I understand she'd go to school
like Saddleback where I'm right there with Anthony Carter, Mark
Gray's Tim Wallack legends how he son that's right, how
he's how he's kid, the offensive lineman. He just quit
on the Chicago Bears. Kyle just walked away from the

(17:51):
and the the old Hawaii quarterback who led the NCAA
in passing one year. That's a Colt Brandon is his name?
Also a saddleback guy. Yeah. It's a small fraternity, small fraterna.
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In addition to this show, we have an NFL coach
who has admitted he lied to get the job that
he has at NFL coach at meeting, he is a liar. Now,
we know coaches lie all the time, but rarely do
they admit it. We'll get to that and we will

(18:34):
do it next. So I jumped off from hogged him,
and I'll stop right there. We got a hell of
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(19:20):
Wade Phillips is taking a page out of your playbook,
and he is. I saw that, the former Rams defensive coordinator.
He's doing an ask Wade on Twitter, but that I
like you. Man. I hope I'm still doing stuff like
that when I'm seventy two years old. You know that'd
be great, right, why not? Hopefully I'm alive when I'm
seventy two. I know I'll just be happy being alive.

(19:40):
You know, if somewhat healthy, I'd be happy about that.
Robin Minnesota says, if I owned a team, I'd hire
Kate Upton to run it. Yeah, I'm sure you would.
How Yeah, I guess you'd hire Verlander. Also, it's a
package deal, just josh as Jerry Jones may have heard bells,
but he was thinking glory hole is what he was thinking. Yeah,

(20:02):
or he just trying to now he was trying to circumscout.
What's do We have the SoundBite where Jerry was on
the radio and he talked about circumcising a mosquito. It's
one of the great Jerry Jones sound bites of all time,
right just in an amazing, amazing sound bite from Jerry
back in the day. Ernie the Great Old Pine, that's right, guys.

(20:23):
Pe One's very upset that I give Ernie so much
love because I keep reading Ernie' tweets. They get very offended.
They're like, what does Ernie? Does Ernie send your money? No,
he doesn't send me money. I've never met Ernie. I
don't know what he looks like. He I think he
looks like Ernie from Sesame Street, because that's his avatar. Anyway,
Ernie says Ben. What I take from the Mike McCarthy
pressor was that Jerry Jones is setting a new press

(20:45):
in it by having interviews sleep over, and in McCarthy's case,
I'm pretty sure he has his own masseus for the
happy ending Overnight PJ party. Yeah, so I jumped off
from hogged him and I'll stop right there. We had
a hell of a time. I'm trying to think. I know,

(21:07):
we didn't talk about it too much this week, and
maybe it's old news now, but like what other people
are invited to sleep over at a job interview, Like
maybe you know, back in old Hollywood days, the casting couch.
You know, some actress is trying to make her name
there in Hollywood, like Harvey Weinstein. You know, I stay
at my house tonight, why and I you know, huh.

(21:29):
But at the same time, I imagine that Jerry Jones
lives on like a plantation in an eighteen bedroom mansion
somewhere in Texas. Right that he's so it's like they're
hotels that are smaller than Jerry Jones house. I would imagine,
because everything the Cowboys do is gotty, So I would
think that Jerry Jones home is gotty, with like a
bunch of dead stuffed animals on the wall. Not when

(21:51):
I say stuffed animals, I mean really like not stuffed
animals like you get for a kid. But I'm talking
about like the Big Five from Africa stuffed and their
heads on the wall and all that stuff. You know
what I'm saying. Hey, that's how I imagine Jerry Jones house. Yeah,
I could see that as well, right, I mean I can't.
I can't think he's got you know, he's living you know,
like a two bedroom apartment somewhere in Dallas. I know. Right,

(22:15):
guy's got a lot of money. He's worth billions of dollars.
He's living large, he's enjoying life, he's living the dream.
He has multiple mansions. I have noted, you think, so
oh yeah. Yeah, and he's got party busses too, which
is kind of cool. He's got that. So an NFL
coach has admitted that he lied to get the job. Now,
I remember, I'm old enough to remember one years ago,

(22:36):
this was a big scandal. There were what was it,
Georgio Leary, Remember Georgio Leary was hired. Yeah, and he
lied on his resume and they lost the job. And
Alabama had that happen. The old Washington State coach right
lied on his resume. Although there was some other stuff
involved in that, and that used to be a big deal.

(22:57):
I haven't heard from him much here now. This is
not necessarily lying on a resume. But listen to an
NFL coach admit that he lied about something to get
a job. This coach, by the way, none other than
Mike McCarthy the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, I told Jerry
I watched every play in the two thousand nineteen season,
but I wanted the job, so I haven't watched every

(23:18):
play the season. But it was just, uh, I mean,
you got to do right. Who is who is that laughing? Hell?
Is that it's either Jerry or his kid. That's got
to be the kid then unless McCarthy was the one talk,
I was Stephen Jones the kid that had to be him. Yeah,

(23:40):
it was Did you see the photo because there are
a lot of memes going around because McCarthy was about
four times the size of Jerry Jones. Wait Watchers and
after wait Watchers though, Uh no, what somebody, my guy,
Bob Fesco in Kansas City, he has sent me the
morning Guy. What do you send me here? One of these?
It was good? Oh yeah it was. Uh it was

(24:01):
Chris Farley and I was the little guy that Farley
did in the movie David Spade. Yeah, it was Farley
in David Spade. And it just like Jerry, Jerry and
Mike McCarthy. It's pretty funny, all right, spet mall show.
So he lied, I mean, but all coaches lie. Have
you ever embellished a resume to get a job. When

(24:21):
I first started out in radio, I had no resume,
so I tried to enhance my resume. Never worked. Look
at look at the job description, and then put the
job description. Put that in your resume other job. I
think the way to phrase it is you're telling them
what they think they want to hear, right, the skills
that they want you to have, and then whether you

(24:43):
actually have them surprised. Yeah, I know, I'm very Internet savvy.
I know how to program websites. Yes, absolutely do it
all the time. All right, Spen Mallow show on I
could luck to Mike McCarthy, Well, do you think Jerry
Jones is gonna fire him for lying about seeing every place? Even?
Let me tell you something, Jason Garrett didn't watch every
play of the college Jerry Jones didn't watch every player.

(25:06):
The dollars time anyway, it is the beat amount of
the show. Will take some phone calls here. Also, who
in sports was caught wearing a flowing black wig, a
full beard and a fake nose? Who? I'll tell you.
We'll get to that coming up, Mama Telly. But right
now we go over to Eddie Garcia to get you

(25:27):
cut up on all the overnight sporting news. Oh Ben,
if you're a basketball fan, you had to have loved
last night's action. We got NBA, we got college hoops.
Will start in the NBA Battle of Great versus Horrible.
The Bucks beat the Warriors one oh seven to ninety eight.
Milwaukee now thirty three and six on the year, most
wins in the NBA. Golden State now nine and thirty

(25:48):
on the season. Time for the most losses in the league.
We had the Rockets beating the Hawks one twenty two
to one fifteen. Houston's James Harden in the win forty
one points, ten rebounds, ten assists, Atlantis Tree Young and
the lost forty two points, thirteen rebounds and ten assists.
And apparently that's history in the NBA. There had never
before been in the same game two players with a
forty point triple double. I'll never forget this night. Where

(26:10):
were you when it happened? Such an emotional time stand
and I was alive for the first time this happened.
It feels good, that's amazing. He beat the Pacers one
twenty two to one oh eight. It was the Nuggets
edging the Mavericks one oh seven one of six. Nicola
Yokic stard for Denver thirty three points, including the game
winning shot with seven seconds to play. We had the
Celtics losing to the Spurs in Boston fourteen hindres fire

(26:30):
Brad Stephen Kemba Walker was ejected in that way. That
was a wild, wild brew haha. Oh we love the
brew haha. Or Donnie Brooke that took place, so possibly
a rule barb or kerfuffle. Two Raptors beat the Hornets
and over time one twelve to one. Ten college troops,
we had five ranked teams in action. They were all
ranked in the top ten, and they all won. Number
two Duke beat Georgia Tech seventy three sixty fourth, Third

(26:52):
ranked Kansas knocked off Iowa State seventy nine fifty time
about my astex of San Diego State? How about that?
Did not know they were your aztex but I ran
the ard for San Diego State basketball my early jobs
in radio. My cousin went there. I guess that's something.
My homie Kawhi Leonard also went there. How about San
Diego States ranked seventh, they're sixteen, No One they're after
meeting Wyoming seventy two fifty two, fifth rank, Auburn's fourteen

(27:13):
to know after knocking out Vanderbilt eighty through seventy nine,
and number ten Florida State a winner Overweke Forest seventy nine.
Excuse me, seventy eight to six? It right? I know,
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(27:36):
the NBA, at least for some. I suppose the Cleveland
Cavaliers are not good. They've had some drama lately with
Kevin Love apparently was pouting on the court and the
speculation he's going to be traded blah blah blah. And
they got a first year head coach, John bee Line,
coming over from Michigan and college coach coming into the NBA.
It's not going too good. But apparently John bee Line

(27:59):
may be in some trouble. He was in a team meeting.
I guess the team blows. They do they apparently they're
watching film and he said something about the team being
a bunch of thugs. And I guess for some people
that's something you can't say. I don't know. It is
not the funny part a band word. Do I need
to night? I occasionally use the word thug. Am I

(28:20):
gonna get in trouble because I do use the word sometimes.
I think it's a kin to saying owners like some
people are offended, like Draymond Green. Some other people's most
people are not really offended about it. But so anyway,
the funny part to me is John Beeline coming back
and later saying what I said thugs? I thought I
said slugs. Yeah, he meant to say the players were

(28:42):
a bunch of slugs, as in slow moving creatures. Yeah, slimy, slimy,
slow moving creature. Travlier's GM. Kobe Altman is investigating. Oh
he's investigating well, Adam Silver information Adam Silver is the
most woe commissioner in sports, So you know Adam Silver
will be all over this look at sensitivity training. To

(29:03):
John Bilen, I would think John Beeline, who's an older
guy and this is getting his first shot at coaching
in the NBA, who has coached mostly African American players
and all that in his career, to think that he's
somehow a racist or something like that, I find that
amusing list or negatives. So two thoughts on this. First

(29:25):
of all, who's the rat? Somebody had to go to Woades.
That's a wode story. So who's the one that text
woag Hey woad Blon called us a bunch of thugs.
Who's the guy that did that? Right? Who's the whistleblower?
On that. It's got to be somebody on the team, right,
It's got to be somebody one of the players or
one of the assistant you know, to be alone. Maybe
how about this deep state conspiracy. It's one of the

(29:48):
assistants that wants bee Line fired so he can be
elevated to the head coach of the Cavaliers. How about that?
You're buying that? Sure? Yeah? Right, So that that's the
first part. The other thing is, does this have legs?
Is John bee Line at age sixty six, a veteran
college coach who's now in the NBA on a morbid

(30:08):
NBA team? Does this have legs where the special interest
groups get in and try to chase John being on
the PC police get in there and try to chase
him out of Cleveland. I don't think so. I don't
think so either. Yeah, because it's like, you know, the
Calves are irrelevant. So if it was like the Lakers
or the you know, the team that people were, Lebron's
not still on the team. Oh can you imagine Lebron?

(30:30):
That would that would be a whole whole new Nike
marketing campaign. Now, I mean, they do a shoe about
John bee Line, Lebron would waxport, Oh my coach call
me a thug. Oh my god, we'd be amazing. I'm
all right, I'm a football player. Maybe Kaepernickel rip John
Beelin could happen too, get that involved there, all right? Anyway,
So I've bet Malo's show to the phones we go.

(30:52):
We are company from the Geico Fox Sports radio studios
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free great quote. I remember when Lebron you referenced this,
Lebron attacked, he talked, what was it? Phil Jackson very

(31:14):
attacked Phil Jackson and they were very upset with Phil
and all, how about Phil who has disappeared off the
I know he's retired and he's still getting paid by
James Dolan. Like what is in Montana? Is he smoking
like weed in Montana and just kind of chilling out
or whatever. We haven't heard from Phil Jackson in a
long time, right, it's kind of chilling out doing the

(31:39):
psychedelic drugs with Joe Rogan having a good time. Right
when Bob is in Bowling Green, Hello Bob, Hey, what's up? Buddy? Hey, y'all,
do not happy new year being and thank you very much.
It's a great Everything appears to be working, the glue
and the duct tape and everything. The sign hasn't been fixed,

(32:00):
but I'm just happy the call screening systems working. So
it's the little things in life, Bob. It's the little
things that help out well. And that's very true. You know,
Jerry Jones, I think he would have heard bales if
he hired we'd man hippy or fluffy days, because that's
just a sign of the dementia medicine effecting his hearing. Um,

(32:23):
I don't get everybody's a racist nowadays and everything's so
PCP or PCP. Well, if it was PCP, that would
be quite the world. If everyone was on a PCP.
Can you imagine how that would go down? Man? Oh
oh lord? What was I Anyway? When's the last time
he did PCP? When's the last time, Ben? I'm fifty

(32:44):
two years old. I've never drank coffee or smoked a
cigarette or smoked to jointly. Yeah, I've never had a
cup of coffee either. So it's a good thing to
start a conversation because everywhere you look there's a Starbucks
or some other coffee shop, and so it's all if
you're want to impress people like my wife's addicted. She's
got a three cup of day habit there with the

(33:06):
coffee and saying yeah, but I don't know. I just
never I just always watched a Dolph drink it. It'd
be one hundred and five degrees in Indiana summer and August,
and it's like, well, who's a pot of coffee. I
never did understand why you're drinking something piping hot. Oh,
I can help you with that coffee, brother, I can, no, no, no,
And they drink hot coffee. I was told by a

(33:29):
long time baseball person that I knew when I was
doing stuff with the Dodgers because you go into Saint
Louis and Cincinnati, it's oppressively hot, and they said it's
actually better for you to drink hot fluids on hot days.
I think that's full. But that's why people drink the coffee. Well,
I think that's just coffee people. I believe that's just
coffee people trying to sell more coffee. So, yeah, when

(33:51):
it's one hundred and ten degrees and humid, drink more coffee.
Right when it's ten degrees and there's ice everywhere. Drink coffee.
It's just a way to sell more coffee. Oh, I
agree with you. And one last point, one last point
thing is not a good thing. Go ahead. Well, I'm
old enough to have been around the whole thirty years

(34:11):
of David Stern's tenure. Yeah, some things he did were
really great and some questionable. But the NBA wouldn't be
worth at without him. And now seems like Adam Silver
is trying to undo everything. You know, thirty years of
prosperity and progress is going to just go down to drain. Well,

(34:32):
I don't know about that. Adam Silver thinks he's doing
the right thing by being a doormat for the players
and whatever they want he gives them. And the NBA
is still making a lot of money. They're not making
as much money though, because of the whole China situation
with the Hong Kong and all that. All right, thank you, Bobby.
There you go with the Great Bob and bowling Green.
Let's go to Skeeter in Montana and hello Skeeter, Ye

(34:56):
all come back, mister Mayer. Yeah, and you know we
are such good friend Skeeter, me and you. Okay, you're
a Mallar militia guy. You took the oath. You're the
first person to take the oath. Skeeter, that lead a lap.
My producer put your name in as Peter in Montana.
I said, I've never taken a call from a guy
named Peter lives in Montana, but I have taken calls

(35:17):
from my friend Skeeter. So that's gotta be Skeeter in Montana,
my guy. Yeah, and now you a hunter? Do you
a odd Skeeter? And like you know, hunt do not?
You do not? Have you ever been a hunter in
your life before when you were young? Yeah? But isn't

(35:38):
Montana known like like there's more animals, big animals and
people in Montana Like you would think you fall out
of your your house and you can kill something, you know,
an animal or something. Yeah, we see deer around here
all the time. Yeah. Uh, deer are rats with hooves
is what they are. By the way. No, yeah, they are,
Come on, Eddie, you don't. I drove around Silvanu one

(36:00):
time and I couldn't believe how many deer there were
and they were running out through the room. No, when
do they get hit on? No? It's not Bambi and
he there's they're they're disgusting. They are not They're not disgusted.
I want to go shoot a deer right now. Yeah, well,
I'm kidding, Skeeter. I was a joke I was having.

(36:22):
Could I stay at your house? Skeeter? Could I hang
out of you? If I get him? On Montana? What
part of Montana are you in? Very tall? You got
a room for me? Can I go hang out with you?
We can be friends who go out and show me
around Montana? Right? Are you coming? Well? I gotta check
my schedule. You know, I don't take any time off
to the end of the year, so I have to
be like, perfect time to go to montanas in late December,

(36:43):
that's the perfect time to go to Montana. A wonderful
here anytime. I understand you love Montana. What do you
got for me? I gotta go, Skeeter, What do you got?
I was hing's happening to my treat Oh? Well, you know,
there's a lot I don't know if you know, this
is a lot lot of people that unfortunately like are
on listen to the show and send tweets in I

(37:03):
don't read everyone that comes into me. I have read
some of yours on the air, Skeeters, so I want
you don't be offended. Like if I see it. If
I see it, if it's good, I'll use it all right.
I thank you, Skeeter, though, I gotta look at that, Eddie.
I got a place to stay when I go to
Great Falls, Montana. Me and Skeeter can be besties, will

(37:24):
hang out together like Mike McCarthy and Jerry Jones. Yeah, exactly.
Maybe I'll hire me or something like that could happen.
So an NFL start wearing a flowing black wig, a
full beard, and a fake nose. We'll get to that
coming up. And also we have the NHL Puckham to
appease Eddie. Here's the who am I game? I am
a current NFL head coach whose uncles were pro boxers.

(37:47):
In fact, one of them even fought former WBC heavyweight
champion Larry Holmes. Again, I'm an NFL head coach. My
uncles were boxers. I come from an athletic family, and
one of my uncles fought former heavyweight champ Larry Holmes.
Who am I? The thing? Be sure to catch live
editions of the Ben Maller show weekdays at two am

(38:09):
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(38:31):
have asked Ben coming up laters today? So I don't
know how Lee's gonna get the questions how are you
geting the question? Should we use Twitter for that? Mostly?
Lee does hashtag ask Ben, I got the Facebook? How
you got the Facebook? All right? Well, I just want
to make sure you want to do the proper introduction, Eddia.
I don't lie from the guy coo Fox Sports Radio Studios.
It's Ben Maller. Hey, that's me, exciting Robe. They said

(38:56):
my name on the radio. Man. That's pretty cool, right,
not bad? I like it all right? So we have
the who am I game? I'm a current NFL head
coach whose uncles were pro boxes. One of them even
fought former heavyweight champ Larry Holmes back in the day.
Who am I? Ask the question? Skeeter in Montana says

(39:18):
you are John Wayne. He says, see, I just read
his tweet because he complained they didn't read his tweets,
so I had to read one of skeeters tweets there.
That was very important that I did that because now
he will stop bugging me to read his tweets. Who
else do we have your Blake got this right? Clearly cheating.
It's a bad job by you. Adam is going with
Matt Lafleur as his answer. Rod says, I am Ken Norton,

(39:41):
Rod the Ambassador trying to cheat. I don't think he's
a head coach, but maybe Ken Norton someday we'll be
a head coach. Clubber Lane guess by Rob in Minnesota.
Trucker Joe the moonshine Guy's going with the winded jerk
from Fox Sports Radio's promo. Who else that lives forever? Yeah,
I'm sure you do. Vic Angio vic Fangio guests by

(40:02):
Milkman Mike, the guy that fooled Marcel and Brooklyn into
reporting the Titanic had crashed a couple of weeks back.
Who else do we have your page down? Ozzie the
Dog is going with the hibernating bear aka hollering James.
Why we hope Paula and James calls in? He has
provided us great radio all week. He's fallen asleep twice.
He's done amazing things, but they just not hollering James.

(40:26):
Who else do we have? Her? Priest Holmes? The Great
Priest Holmes was guessed by someone here. Who else do
we have here? Judge Judy from Philly Rob that's his answer,
Romen Noodles from The Real Martin A. Cassius Clay Travis
from David that's his answer? Who else do we have her?

(40:47):
Brian Flores guess by Robbie the Mariner fan the American Dream,
Dusty Rhodes from Rob in Vegas. Don Corrielle tossed out
by Patrick the Uber Black Driver in Send Diego? Who
else do we have? Paid? Jane Rocky bout Boa from
The Cowboy Killer. I do you have an answer? I
can keep reading these, By the way, Skeeter says he's

(41:09):
sending us a surprise in the mail. Okay, are you
excited about that? He says, look for it in the back,
because I don't know how to go to the mail
room and find stuff. Because if I would be fat
heads and all kinds of stuff. I know. I don't
know how, I don't know where to look. I'll wait
for Coop to get back if he unless he dies,
I mean, wow, there were gonna be in trouble. Pray
for Coop. You tweeted that out. Pray for what if

(41:30):
Coop's actually on vacation. I don't know. I hope he's
all right. Should I us should be more well? I
told Coop, I said, listen, take your vacation time when
you're not sick, because you can enjoy it. You know,
how hard is it to come in here and sit
for four hours? Not that hard? Are you going? And
you going? Is it? Anthony Lynn? No? Not Anthony only
believe it or not. It is Joe Judge, the coach

(41:51):
of the Giants. His uncle Jerry Judge was the sixth
career opponent for Larry Holmes in nineteen seventy three. And
I want you to know it. He because we killed
so much time that we now have to push back
the NHL Puckham people will stick around unless we can
do it in five seconds. We do it in five seconds.

(42:11):
Should we try to do it? Why don't we start
doing it right now. Oh, we're out of time, bummer.
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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to listen live. Everybody's angry about something, but there's a

(42:33):
lot of angst in the NFL about what has been
taking place in recent days. Welcome in the beginning of
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(42:54):
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rate quote. So we begin to new this hour, and
an old reliable topic of conversation on sports radio has
popped up in recent days. The Cleveland Browns are the

(43:17):
only team left with a coaching job available unless someone
else gets fired because of a terrible decision in the
playoff game. The Browns are at party of one. They
are flying solough. They're a one man band. So when
looking at the recent hires from teams like the Giants,
the Cowboys of the Carolina Panthers, apparently they are too

(43:39):
white for some people's taste. That people are getting very
upset about this. The Fritz Pollard Alliance, a special interest group.
The executive director Rod Graves, told The New York Times
that this kind of progress, or lack of it, is shameful. Said,
it's shameful for the NFL that apparently I don't really

(43:59):
did with McCarthy. Was the upset with Joe Judge? Is
he not a fan of the old Baylor coach there
with the Panthers. But he said the word shameful. The
NFL's own vice president of Football Ops, Troy Vincent, agreed.
He said, when you look at the demographics, it's embarrassing.
I don't know what demographics he's looking at. Marvin Lewis

(44:19):
chimed in on this. He talked about the Rooney Roll
after the Cowboys interviewed him, and he said, quote, nobody
is going to tell them, meaning the owners who to
hire close quote. And a lot of this gets back
to some that believe there should be a quota, that
the NFL needs to have a quota system for coaches.
So I want to talk about that. Does the NFL

(44:41):
need to put in a quota system on who gets hired.
And who doesn't get it? No, of course, not silly.
Now I've got the oxy moron, the hornets, nast and
the elevator pitch, and we will lock all these things together.
Not number one, It's very important number one. Always start

(45:02):
with number one. The NFL was the whole Rooney rule.
We've ranted about this, and I know we're beating a
dead horse at this point, we're flogging a dead horse.
But the NFL was rather foolish when they put the
Rooney rule in in the first place. Now, the PC
police in NFL circles, they tossed out a juicy piece

(45:22):
of steak to those special interest groups. Now every coaching search,
every year, we get a report card when it concludes.
It's not over yet. The browns are still there, but
for all intensive purposes. The most of the heavy lifting
has been done. And when these coaching searches end, the
coaching Carol cell comes to a stop. They do inventory, right,

(45:44):
they go down, Okay, how many minority coaches were hired? Right?
And so here we are again, we're at that moment.
They're at the crossroads. And we have preached about this
for many, many years. But the Rooney rule is an oxymoron.
It was in place, and it's been in place because
they want equality. But the Rooney rule, when you think

(46:06):
about it, is actually a racist rule because, and I'll
tell you why, it openly demands that candidates be judged
on their race. Right, you have to interview a minority
candidate based on your race. That's the Rooney rule. That's
how it works bad all the way around. Now, we

(46:28):
got to deal with reality, right, and we talked about
the word, the term social engineering and all that. Now, theoretically,
the people behind what I believe is a Fugazi rule,
they mean well, right, they mean well, I think they're
just misguided here. And my position has been diversity quotas
in any business, whether it's the NFL anything else, don't work.
They create a token situation for candidates there and they're

(46:54):
hand picked as a prop essentially because these companies are forced,
in this case, the NFL, forced to check a box.
It doesn't fix anything, right, I mean, who wants to
cut in line and get a job or interview for
a job where the people that are looking to hire
you don't want to you want to hire you. The
Bengals retain Marvin Lewis as their head coach for I

(47:15):
think it was like fifteen or sixteen years. Marvin Lewis
was the coach in Cincinnati. Never won a playoff game,
never won a playoff game. And Marvin had some good
defensive teams and had teams that made the playoffs and whatnot.
And he interviewed for the cowboy job. He knew going
in he probably wasn't going to get the cowboy job,
but he interviewed for the cowboy job. Now, the second thing,

(47:35):
the big issue with the NFL and this master plan
is the fact that you were opening up a hornet's nest.
And others have referenced this, but I want to go
back to the quote that just came out from the
NFL's VP of Football Ops, Troy Vincent, who says, when
you look at the demographics, is embarrassing. See, the problem
is he doesn't know the demographics, because if you actually

(47:57):
look at the demographics the NFL, you might not like
to hear this, but if you go by the demographics
of the breakdown in the United States, based on each
group of people, the NFL's actually within the margin of error. Okay,
they're in within the margin of error. Where they should be.
Now the NFL. On the field, it's about seventy percent

(48:18):
or something like that. The players are black, but in
the US population about twelve percent, about twelve percent in
the NFL. There are By the way, there's six million
more women than men in the United States. But I
don't see any women playing in the NFL. Even bad
job by them. I don't see a lot of Asian
dudes in the NFL either. It's a bad job by
the NF. Got to get a rule in there. Yeah,

(48:41):
I don't see a lot of Hispanics in the NFL.
Why not, Roberto you should or Mexican you should file
a protest some kind of Listen. The NFL currently has
four minority coaches, who apparently not enough. That's twelve point
five percent of the NFL. Ron Rivera becoming the wayst
You've got my Tomlin and Anthony Win who are African American. Now,

(49:02):
Brian Flores is called African American, but he's his family
is from Honduras racist, So is he Honduras American? That
doesn't sound as good, right, doesn't flow as well's but
his parents came from Honduras, so he's gotta last name
as meaning. But isn't that like our friend Cowboy and
Windsor says he's he's African, Canadian, he's Hondoras American Yang,

(49:25):
So is it Honduras American or I'm not. I don't
know how that all? Like who comes up with those
those terms? Do you know the person? Can I talk
to them so I can figure? I want to get
it right. But like anyway, so the NFL put this
rule in place to level the playing field, to enforce,
to enforce. Quote if the NFL did this, shouts do

(49:46):
the Hypothetically the NFL did this, Um, how would that look?
Right now? They would never do it, nor should they
do it. They shouldn't do it. You know, I'm talking
about on the field where you have to have, you know,
certain percentage of Asian players, certain percentage of Mexican players,
black players, that would actually do damage because again the
NFL's but seventy percent or so the players are African,

(50:08):
American or from other kind whatever. But that that's the point.
So here's the way I look at this. Now. Maybe
I'm living in a bubble, but for the most part,
here's how I always thought of sports. That sports are
supposed to be a meritocracy that you are chosen based
on your raw talent. And it's the old Vince Lombardi
quote that winning isn't everything, it's the only thing and

(50:31):
the final Now, that's some people that go around to
think everyone's racist and everyone's out to get everyone. I
hope that's not the case, but to each their own,
there's some people that believe everyone's out to get them
and that you know, the world's filled with a bunch
of evil people and all that. And that's one way
to live your life. And for a lot of people,
that's how they live in life. And there's other ways
to live your life as well. For those cranking up
the outrage armies, signing blowing into the bugle outrage army

(50:55):
and all that stuff about the Rooney rule and this
spin of the carousel, racist, Yeah, I would say stop
beating around the bush because really, you by saying that
the NFL hired too many white coaches, you're saying that
NFL owners are racist. Just call them racist, because when

(51:15):
you you're dancing around and using all these other vague
terms and all that stuff, just say it. Just yell
it from the top of the mountain that you think
the people that own NFL teams are racist? Now, I
know they've been racist people that have owned NFL teams
over there, But which owners currently are racist? What about
Bob McNair, he's dead. Go ahead, next, go ahead, give

(51:37):
me the list of the racist owners in the NFL.
Is Jerry Jones racist because he hired a fat white
guy Mike McCarthy. Are the Giants who've got some very
woke owners there? Are they racist because they hired some
guy named Joe Judge who we've never heard of, you know?
And people are saying Eric Biannimy should have been a
head coach. He's the Chiefs offensive coordinator. But here's the thing.

(52:00):
Doesn't Andy Reid run the Chiefs offense? I mean, that's
you know, it's a tough thing. But and the other
part of this is I would think if you own
an NFL team, you're you're hiring a coach. You want
someone who's going to relate to all the players. But
since the NFL is again about seventy percent African American,
most of the players are black, you would think if

(52:21):
you could find a candidate that is an African American
who can relate the player's boy this would be amazing,
This would be great in a qualified candidate. But the
big problem with the whole interview present the Rooney rule
is not the answer. So I have a solution. I'm
an answers guy. I'm a solutions guy. I'm a one
man think tank in the middle of the night when

(52:41):
everyone's sleeping. So the Rooney rule is not the answer.
My theory is, instead of trying to manage coaching search outcomes,
which is what the NFL is trying to do, focus on,
you know, not focus on, don't do quotas. The NFL
needs to target why there are not more candidates assistant
coaches that are working their way up, that are qualified,

(53:02):
that would get a job, that are able to pull
it off. If you get more of those candidates, then
I think it's a self fulfilling prophecy where by having
more qualified assistant coaches who are black, you are then
going to have more of a chance of them becoming
head coach if that is your stated goal and desire
and all of that. Ultimately, unless teams are taken to court,

(53:26):
the NFL is taken to court and they're forced to
hire a certain number of this and that and the
whole thing. Then it really comes down to when you
get an opportunity, and right now, because the Rooney rules,
certain people are given opportunities and whatnot. But it comes
down to when you meet with the owner of the team,

(53:46):
you have to be a schmoozer. You have to kiss ass,
you have to win the elevator pitch. Right there's that
elevator pitch that takes place there when you go face
to it, you have to sell yourself. Mike McCarthy admitity lied.
We've played that summon. Mike McCarthy's I said, I watched
every single Dallas Cowboy play. No he didn't. Pinocchio, you
didn't watch every single Dallas Cowboy play. You're a liar,

(54:09):
but it helped him get the job. Now, the way
it work when you own the business, you can hire
whoever you want. That's part of the other issue involved
with the NFL. But this will continue to be like
the Swallows returning to Capistrano and Punksitani Phil a tradition
every year with the coaching carousel. And I know why.

(54:30):
If you're a New York Times writer and you call
the Fritz Pollard Alliance, which is a special interest group
that gives report cards on racial hires, What did you
expect them to say? Well, I mean it's it's kind
of you people call the media facing on it. But
you know, it's kind of like when you ask someone
a question, but you know the answer before you ask
them the question. You know what I'm saying. Like, there's

(54:51):
certain people that pop up on these TV news shows
where you know their position and you're like, well, I
know if I ask him this question or that's I
know what they're gonna say. So it's like, well, I
didn't tell them what to say, but I know what
their thoughts are, and that's how that's gonna work. All right, Ben,
other show on Fox. To the phones we go, and

(55:13):
we'll say hello to mister Irrigation, who is hanging out
in Houston, A show legend, by the way, amazing rings
back in the day. Hello mister Irrigation, Happy medi year,
Big Ben, Thank you so much. I hope you have
a great media. Thank you. So you know, weed Man,
I don't know you stopped calling for a while, but

(55:33):
Weedman was so excited to get that ring that I
think he's damaged it already. I think he's lost like
half the stones in the ring and on it. Yeah. Well, yeah,
I've told him before. You can't hit somebody with it.
I know, I know he's going around punching people in Miami.
What an idiot, Hey Ben. Yeah, I'm working on something

(55:53):
for you. Actually, I'm gonna make it totally silver. This time.
There'll be a solid silver. Want won't be any place.
Did It's going to be. It's gonna be a little
bit better. It's gonna take me probably until June or July.
Oh is that what would that be? You want to
give it away? Are you? Well, I'm gonna well, I'm
gonna well, the first one's gonna go to you, but
it's gonna be it's gonna be a better ring than

(56:14):
than you know, the first one I made. That first
one we did was more it was more for show,
I think, you know. But yeah, I want to make
this one really nice for you. So that's very kind
mister I Gishon, And I appreciate that very For those
that don't know, mister Gishon made like a p one
ring for the show, like where the Legends of the
show got the ring there in the inner circle. It's

(56:34):
pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had fun doing it,
and you do you you do that like in your
spare time, like you you have you make you contact
people you you were obviously make them, but you don't
know yourself, right, you have other people people actually here
in Houston. I had several little leagues get a hold
of me and they were interested in having me produce

(56:57):
something for them. It's actually cheaper than a trope, and
I think the kids might enjoy it a lot. I
agree these are like kind of rip off championship rings.
He do, you know, an amazing job on those? They
look really good, they do. I appreciate the compliments. Then,
very very wide of you. Dare you racist? Dare you

(57:18):
what's going? What do you got for me? Though you
didn't call about that out? If you could fill me
in on this Boston Red Sox thing because Alex Kreia
was involved in it, and I'm just kind of skeptical
about that. Oh, Carlos Karez, you're saying that he was
the rat that write it out that, Yeah, I've I've
heard that that they some people think he was the
one that snitched, And yeah, I don't. I don't believe that,

(57:41):
and you know it's possible, but I don't believe it.
I'll tell you why. Evans Relic, the guy that wrote
the story was a former Red Sox beat writer, so
he is very connected in Red Sox circles. He knows
a lot of people. He used to cover the Astros also,
so he knows people with both those teams. So you know,
it's possible Kare did it. But it's also possible that

(58:01):
it's just guys that work for the Red Sox that
are upset with Alice Cora and along those lines. But
it's a great story, and I know you're excited. Everyone
in Houston is counting down the minutes untill that punishment
rains down for the Ashal just the nashvill like Pete
Rose even said, you know, hey, somebody was shooting me
a signal back when he was doing his hit My Streak.

(58:23):
He wouldn't have been able to make a decision that bad. Well,
the guys, they are able to do it. It's amazing
when you when you see bang bang and you see
the lights show and all the all the accusations made
against this. Yeah, so well, bam, you have a good
nature and thank you all right the great to mister
Irrigation from Parts Unknown in the Greater Houston area. Never

(58:47):
heard of them checking. We're gonna have the n h
L puck and we'll get to that coming up here
in a little bit. We're starting to get backed up.
We're starting to get backed up, and that's a problem.
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. If you would
like to be part of the program, you really need
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tonight's special guest executive producer. We spun the Wheel Eddie.
He's in for the mortally wounded Coop the Loop. It's
literally lead a Lap on his deathbed. Yeah, he is
at Lee Lee duh d e l app Lap. I'm
loving stupid. I don't know if we should trust Coop

(59:50):
because his resume, says liar liar on it. So I
don't know if we should trust him. It's a good point,
you know. It's hard to get around that, you know
what I'm saying. I right from the Geico Fox Sports
Radio studios. It's bet maller that it is. So. I
mentioned this earlier. I think it's a pretty good story.
I didn't see the show. I gotta check it out.
I saw a clip of this, so an NFL star

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or a flowing black rig, a wig, a full beard,
and a fake nose. Did you see this eddio? Yeah?
I saw the ads for it during the playoff. Okay,
So Drew Brees, I guess the episode aired last night.
He was a guest on the Undercover program there and
Undercover Boss is the name of the show. And I

(01:00:35):
finished seen this show in the past and I thought
it was It was fine. I like the concept of it.
Kind of reminds me of those old blueprint and practical
joke shows back in the day where they dress up
and try to fool people and goof on people and
all that. I wondered though, does Drew Brees getting paid
for that? He's got a lot of money, but do
they pay him for going on the show. They have

(01:00:56):
to pay him a little bit, don't they. I don't know.
Is he promoting some Yeah he was the boss. Yeah,
there's a chain of restaurants and he's the co owner there.
You go, well, maybe he's just doing it for the
promotion of the business. Yeah. I've never heard of the channing.
It's more of a local chant in the South, but
I've never heard of it there. But they did a
pretty good job of of of that whole thing. But

(01:01:19):
I wonder how many times people are like saying really
offensive stuff to this part, you know what I mean,
like as somebody m yes, that never sees the light
of day. And the other thing I was wondering. I
saw this clip, I was like, could that work here
at Fox Sports Radio? Scott Shapiro went into wardrobe and
got a funny nose and some glasses and a couple

(01:01:41):
of tattoos. Would anyone here in the building be suspicious
or were they just whatever? Yeah, it's a different animal
during the day, So I don't know what it's like
during the day. I haven't been here during the day
in a long time, but I know at night, I mean,
we pretty much know everybody in the building, so anybody
knew we were you know, what's going on there? Personal fake,

(01:02:02):
something's going on there, you know. But I think in
the entire time i've worked here, I have met our
current bosses four times. Yeah, that's the way to do it. Yeah,
so the way to do it now we communicate. I
went years without meeting Doc Martin. He didn't. He even
came into the studio one time when he when I

(01:02:24):
think Dan Byer was in here, and he came to
talk to Dan and I was kind of in the
on the other side of the room and never even
said hello to me. I didn't say hello to him,
just you know, Yeah, I'm fine with By the way,
it's hard to fire someone if you don't know what
they look like or who they are. Who. Well, there's
two schools of thought. That's one school of thought that
it's you can't get rid of them. The other schools
you don't know who they are anyway, so who cares?
Just get rid of them, you know, because it's not

(01:02:45):
you don't know who they are. They're not real people
to you, so you can just fire them, you know. Yeah,
I'm pretty pretty safe on the first part of that. Yeah,
well just when you think you're safe, though, Eddie. You
know our buddy Chris Linsley, another the Grim Reaper, the
Grim Reaper, Well he Linsley doesn't here. He just lurks
in the shadows stick fire. That guy never heard of.
They don't even see him on the cameras. We have

(01:03:06):
security cameras. They don't even see him. He's like a ghost. Yeah. Yeah,
it's amazing how that works. Why don't we sneak in here?
And I don't want to sneak it in. I want
to short change it. But let's go to the NHL
rock him because Eddie demands the NHL puck n it?
You want to cancel? You lead a lapse? And why
are you doing the hockey? I said, Wow, Eddie wants hockey?

(01:03:31):
He did. I did inquire what this was all about? Yeah,
dare you lee? By the way, it's brought to you
by Discover Card. We treat you like you treat you.
And I believe I'm going first. Oh goody, I get
to go first. Look at me, Eddie, I'm number one,
and the puck him pick him. I'll go first. I'm
gonna take see any menimni mo, I'm gonna go with

(01:03:55):
David Pasternak of the Boston Ruins, Eddie, I will take
Connor McDavid. David has been picked, Roberto, uh Patrick Kane,
Patrick Kane. You always picked Patrick Kane. It feels like
he knows how to say his name. Yeah, Lee, go ahead, Lee.
But he's a real hockey guy. I'm gonna go with
the the Brad Marching. Wow, all right, I thought you

(01:04:18):
were gonna pick Wayne Grass, Marsha Marsha Marsh and Dyah,
I'm going go ahead, Lee, Oh, Connor mcdavids taking. Let's
go with h go ahead. Yeah, let's go h Our
Timmy Parning and like you, I like that that he
said it anyway, Tim, Yeah, go ahead, Roberto. Let's see here,

(01:04:43):
let's go with Jack. I shall good for the Savers.
Go ahead. It's more funny when you don't say yeah.
It is more fun that way, Eddie. Leon Drysdal, all right,
I'm gonna take us see any me any more? Mo,
Max pacarready of my vegas whatever and touka rash she already.

(01:05:06):
I was close, you know, everybody's close. But that's all
it's hockey, Eddie, It's all the darkness. Go ahead, Eddie, Uh,
let's see, I need my goaltender. Let's go with Ben
bish Hey, die die die rhea. He had to run
the Stanley Cup finals. Did I remember to my favorite
hockey story that the last decade made up? Go ahead,

(01:05:27):
Uh we have Roberto. Are you next? Yeah, let's go
Andres Andres good pronunciation and the final goalie. I want
Lee to pick the Blue Jackets goalies. Where you go
with the name that looks the funniest. Connor hellibuck Oh said,
should have gone with Elvis mers Lickens though, No, but

(01:05:48):
the Blue Jackets goalie, Yeah, that's my name, elvismr Li No. No,
the other one though, Joan is it Jonas copra Salo? Yeah?
Do you think Elvis mrs Lickens is a better name? Yeah,
Jonah's corpus Alo. Yeah, but I didn't have that on
my list. So Italian. He probably made that dish for cooking, Robert,

(01:06:09):
how about all those people are like, hey, I thought
you were Mexican. You're making Italian foot. What's like, you
can't make Italian food? Exactly? It's not right? All right,
Ben aloshall we press on here and we go back
over to Eddie. Get you cut up on everywhere. I
have a third degree coming up in a little bit,
but right now to Eddie to get your cut up
on everything going on. And it's a busy night in hoops.

(01:06:31):
We start with the professionals. In the NBA, the Bucks
beat the Warriors one oh seven to ninety eight. Boy,
how this matchup but looks different a year later, Milwaukee
the team with the most wins in the NBA, now
thirty three and six on the year. Golden State tie
for the most losses in the league, now nine and
thirty on the season, Rockets over the Hawks at one
twenty two to one fifteen. We had something that had

(01:06:52):
never happened before happened in this game. James Harden for
Houston forty one points, ten rebounds, ten assists in the
wind for Atlanta in the lost TREYE. Young forty two pot.
It's thirteen rebounds, ten assists in the loss of the
first two players in the same game to have a
forty point triple double in NBA Histo read the Heat
beat the Pacers one twenty two to one away. It
was the Nuggets edging the Mavericks in Dallas one oh seven,

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one oh six p game for Denver's Nicola Yokis, who
had thirty two points, including the game winning shot with
seven seconds to play, Spurs over the Celvics in Boston
one twenty nine two one fourteen Kemba Walker first care
ejection in this one for the Celtics, and in overtime
the Raptors beat the Hornets one twelve two one Ten
College basketball five top twenty five teams were in action

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and they were all ranked in the top ten, and
they all won. Number two Duke beat Georgia Tech seventy
three sixty four, Number three Kansas a winner over Iowa
State seventy nine to fifty three. Number five Auburn improving
at fourteen and oz with an eighty three seventy one
win over Vanderbilt seventh right San Diego State sixteen and
oe on the year of the beating Wyoming seventy two
fifty two and number ten Florida State to Caraquake Forrest
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not mention in the college basketball scoreboard. There was North Carolina,
the tar Heels, one of the blue bloods of college hoops.
They're sucking this year. They lost to Pittsburgh last night

(01:08:21):
at home, seventy three to sixty five. Smith Batman. The
tar Heels are eight and seven on the year, one
in three now in acc play. But there is good news.
Roy Williams Hall of Fame head coach Roy Williams has
his team's back, unless he doesn't. He said in his
weekly radio interview this week is Radio Show that the

(01:08:43):
team is not good and that what was the quote,
they are not gifted players? Is his team is not
any gifted players. And my reaction to that is who
recruited them and who's coaching them? Yeah, but I do
appreciate I appreciate his honest, he's honest that it's not
his fault. Yeah, I mean, you're right, he's the one.

(01:09:05):
Every player that goes to North Carolina has to be
vetted by Roy Williams. So remember when Roy was at
Kansas million years ago and the rumors where he was
going to North Carolina. He did that interview. I think
it was with Monnie Bernstein. Yes, he was very upset.
He's like crying, and he cursed, he did, he cursed.
I remember that some compelling Mallard monologues about that back

(01:09:28):
in the day. All right to North Carolina. Yeah, and
then he went to North Yea, all these guys just
like you down, Nick Saban, I'm not going to be
the coach at Alabama. I don't know how else I
can say it. When he was coaching the Dolphins, Yeah,
the coach, the new guy at Carolina. When he was
with Baylor Rule, he said, I'm not going to be
the coach. I'm gonna going to the NFL. I'm gonna
stay here and gone. I can't believe he's guys cannot

(01:09:52):
do it, cannot do it. Not no, no, no, no,
David says Ben Drew. Brees ended up adopting two of
his employees after the show. I they felt sorry for them.
The jokes are tomorrow, David. That's a bad job by you,
we see. Justin says weed Man pawned his p one
ring from our friend in Houston for an eight ball.

(01:10:15):
According to Justin or actually, just Josh, you something that
sounds like something Justin would say, but it's just Josh
and Ray says, Ben, have you seen the headline about
Drake wishing Lamar Jackson a happy birthday? And all the
Ravens nation went berserk because now they think that Drake
curse is back on since this isn't a Toronto team.

(01:10:38):
I didn't see that under I did not fly on
my radar. Did Drake do that? I don't. I'm not.
I'm not cool enough to like be up on Drake
like all things Drake. So if Lamar Jackson goes out
and you know, last year against the Chargers, his passer
rating going to the fourth quarter of the first playoff

(01:10:59):
game he played in was two point seven. I believe
he had like around ten yards passing over the first
three quarters of the game and then he threw for
like one hundred and seventy in the fourth quarter. So
people look at the numbers like he wasn't that bad
for seventy five percent of the game. Last year, Lamar
Jackson was ste right, you remember that, Roberto, Yeah, you're

(01:11:21):
Chargers man, didn't mind Charger. Oh yeah, you're not a Charger,
not a Charger fan. Have you bought your Raider tickets
yet Roberto of you, No, no, not yet. Roberto can't
buy any tickets for another decade because of the Dodgers
World Series tickets. But he saw them win the World Series.
Though at least you saw the Dodgers win the World Series.
They won the championship. They signed a big signing here.

(01:11:41):
They signed Jeff Nelson this week. Did you see that
big fat guy, Jeff Nelson the old Brewers. I looked
looked at me. Oh, Jimmy, Now I was close Jimmy Nelson.
It's like hockey. It as long as I'm close, you know.
So Jimmy Nelson. He's like two fifty, but he looks
like he's two ninety. And the only cast McCarthy. The
only categories he's lead baseball and are like walks and

(01:12:04):
U E R A with bad. What I'm saying like
the world highest dra He's been terrible. Another reclamation project
for Andrew Friedman or his favorite movie Andrew Friedman is
wreck It Ralph. He's fixed it, Felix. I love that movie.
By the way, I do love that movie is too.
I even liked the sequel, which I didn't think I
was gonna like. But I even liked that, but the
original is better. The original is absolutely better. I never

(01:12:26):
watched it. Come on, you got a daughter, Your daughter
would love it. Maybe she's might be a little too
young for it, but she a couple of years. It's
the same concept, but it's about video games and arcade
games more designed for old farts like us that played
arcade games, that went to have the Orange Julius and
the hot Dog on a stick and play video games back.
Put the dollar bill in the quarter machine. Yeah, yeah,

(01:12:48):
it's crazy. Sometimes he's been put a five dollar bill
in there and all those quarters are come. Oh yeah,
that's oh my god, I'm rich. We talked about this
a while ago. But have you been to one of
the retro arcades that are pop up around You can
go there and they have all the old video games there.
You can play them and it's pretty cool. I have not,
really I would do it. I would. Yeah, they have
one in Pasadena where we are in over in Passidy.

(01:13:10):
I think they're still there, but yeah. You have to
pay for like an hour and you play whatever game
you want. Oh that's pretty cool. Whatever game you want
for as long as you want or whatever, for that
hour or whatever time. You buy it, but it's you know,
they're they're growing, but it's one of those fat things.
You know, they're not. Remember the lines for Morta Kammet
was insane. Man, everybody had there. Everybody put the quarter
on the top and like, I'm next, man, here's my quarter.
Well you mentioned Record Ralph, Eddie, and they have the

(01:13:31):
Record Ralph game at that one over there. Yeah. I
didn't even I've never I never played the video game.
I just saw the movie. But they have the actual
So they made a game based on the movie that Yeah,
apparently it was a real game. Like no, they made
the movie based on the game. Yeah, like I didn't know. No,
I think it's the other way. No, No, I don't
think so. I don't think so. I think that game
looked like it was from like the nineteen eighties, that

(01:13:53):
game or the earlier. That they can do that with
technology retro, but that go to the internet. You don't
think they can make a pong game these days? No, no, no, no, no.
Technology has gone backwards, Eddie. And I don't know if
you know this, it's gone backwards. So you need some
emotional support. Did you see here? This is great? The
first NFL team to employ an emotional support dog. You

(01:14:18):
see this one Eddie. Which NFL team do you think
has an emotional support dog? Well, the Saints used to
have that big Saint Bernard that would run around out there, Gumbo.
I think it was just Gumbo. Sure, but but I'll
go San Francisco. That is right, the San Francisco forty
nine ers. How how perfect is this? Right? I mean

(01:14:39):
the cliche about the Bay Area and all that stuff.
The NFL's first emotional support dog is Frenchy. The NFL's
it's a French bulldog. Zoo is the NFL's first emotional
sports emotional support dog. And uh, I just imagine, like,

(01:14:59):
you know, I as watching those old NFL films documentaries,
like I'm pretty sure that Jack Tatum had an emotional
support dog when he was playing in the NFL. Or mean,
Joe Green or Conrad Dobler. You know, he probably had
two of them. You know, it should have been what's
that friend of the show, Parker the snow dog. That's
right now, Parker. Yeah, Parker's really the Broncos emotional support dog.

(01:15:20):
When I think about, like, Parker's cool man, Parker's hanging
out with beautiful women and all that stuff like this,
this is all really is. That was the last picture
I saw. That was quite the little broncho Hortie. I
don't know who that is, but my goodness, my my
my god, Yes we're burning. Ralph is a film about
a villain from an early nineteen eighties arcade hold On,

(01:15:42):
hold On, called fix It Fixing Felix Jets. That's the
game fix It in reality, however, that game never actually
it did did exist the Internet. The Internet's wrong, you're ready?
The movie is It pays an homage to Nintendo's Donkey Kong. No, right, right, yeah,
I played the game. It looked like it was in
like nineteen eighty three or something like that. Yea, there,

(01:16:07):
it is never wrong. Let's get back to this emotional
support dog. So when I traveled back from Seattle, I
had to wait for my ride to pick me up
at Lax, So I stated, I sat in the baggage
claim at Lax for like an hour and a half. Right,
it was like a damn kennel. There were so many
dogs and and now I understand some people. I get it,

(01:16:29):
you need the dog. But it looked like a lot
of like college girls that didn't need the emotional support
dog to fly on the plane. Who like, I want
to take my shitsu with me on the flight, Eddie?
What do dogs do? They urinate and poop everywhere. I
mean it was only I was there for an hour

(01:16:50):
and a half away two if we didn't have a
place to go, it was probably like twenty dog. I'm
not exagger like twenty dogs and an hour and a half.
I mean, what's what's going on now? The funny this
is when people bring in like a goat, an emotional
support and goat stories. I don't really want to see
that in person. Or you get on a plane and
there's a goose, an emotional support goose sitting on the plane.

(01:17:11):
Yeah Morris, Well yeah, all right. It is the Ben
Mallers Show on Fox. We're gonna have Mallard to the
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since Kyle Shanahan was hired back in twenty seventeen, the
forty nine the aforementioned forty Nineers who have an emotional
support doggie. The forty nine Ers are the only team
in the NFL without a snap from a first round

(01:17:34):
skill position player. The other thirty one teams have averaged
almost almost five thousand snaps from first round skill position players.
Blank is the last first round skill position player to
sa take a snap on offense. For the forty nine ers,
fill in the blank the answer next any better? I

(01:17:57):
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(01:18:44):
it is? Here's the instance trivia. Kyle Shanahan Niners coach,
only team in the NFL since he took over without
a snap from a first round skill position player, Blank
was the last first round skill position player to take
a snap on offense for the forty nine ers, Michael
is going with Alex Smith, Tom Rathman from mediocre Kabuki,
John's going Blake Mortals, Frank Gore from Tony although Frank

(01:19:08):
was the second round pick. Who else do we have here?
Jim McMahon tossed out by Brent sour Doe. Sam guests
by forty nine er Rob who was just waiting for
this question, and who doesn't love the good sour dough mascot?
There Joe Montana from Johnny Q. Craig says he endorses
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(01:19:29):
He says, I am a meat popsicle. I don't know
what you're talking about. Sam, why he's guests by Will
Hoopster's going left tackle a Reek got it right? I
think he cheated, though. Do you have an answer? Any I?
Didn't you hear the question? All right? It is Blaine Gabbert.
Blaine Gabbert, the last first round pick to take a
snap with the Niners, not Vernon Davis, which was Caleb's guest.

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Let's get to it. Here we go the free version.
How about that to the third degree one? Big Ben
gets the great lead alive. All right, Ben, ESPN may
reportedly pursue Tony Romo in a possible Monday night football overhaul. Ben,
do you think they could pull that off? Yes, Romo
wants money. If the people at ESPN pay Tony Romo

(01:20:16):
a ton of money, ten million dollars a year, he'll
dance like a canary. Yeah, like that's the expression. But
he will dance. He will do an amazing dance. There.
The most fascinating thing about Romo is the conspiracy that
he wants to do Monday night football because he plans
on golfing more and trying to make PGA Tour events.

(01:20:37):
And if you make the cut at a PGA Tour event,
you have to golf on Sunday, And so he'd rather
do Monday Night football because then he can golf all
he wants and doesn't have to worry about missing a game.
All right, next, all right, Ben, The NBA is seriously
reconsidering the idea of reseating the four conference finalists as
part of a larger proposal to reshape the league calendar.
Do you think this would be a good idea? Well,

(01:20:58):
reseating was from the very beginning. No, they're not going
to recede. Roberto thought they were recent not going to
receive It is a logistical nightmare. But mostly they're looking
out for the media because the teams travel with chartered
flights and they roll out the red carpet, but the
media that cover the NBA have to wait in line
for Group B or C or D and then do

(01:21:21):
that whole thing. And the other thing is people don't
like change. You have to know your audience, okay, And
there is a comfort level in East West and having
those teams meet in the NBA Finals. The NBA right
now is throwing spaghetti against the wall. They are freaking out.
The ratings are down. There's a lot of fear and
anxiety there. They're trying to reshape the calendar. They're talking
about in season tournaments, postseason playing games. I mean, it's ridiculous. Next,

(01:21:47):
the XSFIL unveiled to new rules and features, including a
tiered point after touchdown system with no kick pat s,
shootout overtimes, double forward passes, coach to player communication being
made available for broadcast, just to name a few. Ben
Will any of these XFL features be adopted by the NFL. Yes,
the ones that look good That's how the NFL is

(01:22:08):
not going to do anything there. They're a blue blood,
they're legacy sports leak, so they're afraid to change everything.
But if the XFL does this stuff and it works
and people like it, it'll eventually come to the NFL.
They don't want to take a chance of ruining it.
The Golden Goose, kicking the Golden goose and all that stuff.
But I love it. Did you see on a touchdown
you can get nine points the no pats. In the

(01:22:29):
XFL you get a two year if the two yard
line you get two points. One yard line, you are
one point from the two yard line, two points from
the five, all these different things. I like that. What
else did I lie? I mean, there's a couple other
things there. One foot in bounds for receivers. You don't
need to get two feet in bounds. I like. Listen,
Vince McMahon's a marketing genius. The XFL is gonna fail anyway,

(01:22:51):
but I'll watch it. I mean, do it, why not?
I'm down with it. We win it. I won the game,
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You're here hanging out with us, and we talk talk, talk, talk, Talk, Talk, Talk, talk,
talk the night away. We have asked Ben coming up
later this hour. Your questions are answers that'll be coming
your way about a half an hour from now as

(01:24:00):
the crow fly so pro basketball move. I'm sorry football fans,
but we'll go to basketball for just a couplement. So
the discussion on the influenza like outbreak of load management continues.
Greg Popovitch, the San Antonio Spurs tzar, was asked about

(01:24:22):
the bubonic plague of the NBA. Did you hear what
he had to say. He said it just before San
Antonio somehow beat the Boston Celtics at the Garden, and
who knew that was going to happen. That was a possibility.
The Spurs are under five hundred. The Celtics have this big,
impressive record. But anyway, so if you didn't hear what
Popovitch had to say, Popovich amazingly pushed back on the

(01:24:45):
thought that he was the originator of what is known
now as modern load management in the NBA. He spoke
before that game in Boston, seemingly with the straight face,
said I never did load and management. I never took
out He says, they never took out a sheet of
paper and said he's going to do this, He's going

(01:25:06):
to do that. Pop opined on the topic, So let's
discuss the question, what do you make of Greg Popovitch
being unwilling to take ownership of the disease of load management.
So I've got Google, toothpaste, and the grifter, and we

(01:25:27):
will combine all these things together and we will make
some text mex is what we're gonna make. Now. I'm
not a big text mex guy. You don't like, yeah,
you like the original, not the rip off version. So now,
first of all, Greg Popovitch, he seems like someone who's
selling you fertilizer, right, he seems like a fertilizer salesman.

(01:25:48):
He's got this gruff persona, which isn't as much fun
right now because the Spurs are a losing team serving
up dog food most nights. Yeah, I know they beat
the Celtics, yeah, but yeah, yeah, But it's amusing that
Greg Popovitch would not want to own this. He's the
one that put it on the map. He's trying now

(01:26:10):
to use some revisionist history. And I love the fact
that a Boston media guy asked Greg Popovitch to his face,
said that he was the godfather of load management. It
was a pathetic performance. How precious is that we we
I've tried to find the audio. I looked around. I
could not find the audio of this. I only saw

(01:26:31):
the written transcript of Popovitch's pregame interview for San Antonio
there and I'd love to get a copy of it.
So the guy asked Popovitch, he said, you're the godfather
load management. Was something like, how do you feel about this?
We have been preaching from our little bully pulpit here
at Fox Sports Radio about Greg Popovitch and load management

(01:26:51):
and he being the forefather of load management and all
this stuff. This guy, this guy's got to be I
don't know who this person is, but they've got to
be like a closeted Mallard Militia listener, right, I mean,
whoever asked that question has to be somebody that's a
listener to our show. Now, how did Popovitch respond? He chuckled,
He laughed. Now was it a laugh of guild? Inquiring

(01:27:13):
minds would like to know. Now, clearly Greg Popovich is
he's living in a parallel dimension if he really leaves
his or he simply does not understand how modern communication operates.
Meeting Just google it right, type in any search engine
load management, and Greg Popovitch's name is gonna pop up

(01:27:35):
in those returns. Now, why is that all right? The
second thing here, let's say, yeah, we're googling. So let's
take a trip back in the hot tub time machine
to the year twenty twelve, A little before. I was
alive in twenty twelve. But in the year twenty twelve,
Greg Popovitch famously rested Tim duncan Tony Parker, Manu Ginobli,

(01:27:56):
and Danny Green. These Spurs were in Florida. They were
going to the Orlando Miami matchup and flying from Orlando
to Miami, except the Spurs players flew back to San
Antonio on a Southwest Airlines flight. The problem that they
would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been
a TNT game that in Miami it was a big

(01:28:18):
Lebron and the Heat versus the Spurs. So Duncan, Parker, Genoble,
and Green took a Southwest Airlines flight home to Orlando
the night before the game. When then Commissioner David Stern
found out about this, he went ballistic. Stern went nuts right.
He had the foresight the leadership to realize what a

(01:28:39):
disaster this load management was going to be to the
business of the NFL, so he tried to put the
kabash on it, apologized to NBA fans said this was unacceptable.
The Spurs were fined a ton of money. I think
it was like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in
fines over all. This In addition, the godfather of load management,
which is Gregg Popovich, we gave him the nickname typhoid

(01:29:02):
Mary because he's denials do not change the reality of
what happened. He thought he was doing the right thing
sending home Duncan Parker, Genoble and Green on that Southwest
Airlines fight flight. But he thought he was doing the
right thing. Everyone thought the same thing at the time.
People around the spurs. Everything seemed kosher. And yet, and

(01:29:23):
yet Greg Popovich caused this infestation. If you will, to
become the new normal. And again, even though David Stern
tried to reign in teams, he failed. And it's a
reminder that you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.

(01:29:43):
You can't do it. You put some of the toothpaste
back in the tube, but you can't put all of
it back in the tube, because that's not how. And
don't send me those YouTube videos of people cutting open
tubes of toothpaste. That's cheating, that's not okay. Don't do that.
I don't even see that. I've seen enough of those
over the years. It's a good expression, and I like
the expression, so I'm going to continue to use the expression. Right.

(01:30:04):
This is an issue, and the reason it's an issue,
and Adam Silver is too dumb Apparently he's a dummy.
He doesn't figure this out. If you go to an
NBA game, then most people don't go to NBA against
You go to an NBA game or any kind of
a sporting event, you buy a ticket to see the stars.
The NBA markets the stars, but there's no guarantee when

(01:30:25):
you go to an NBA game that the players are
going to play. Now, we accept when people get hurt
in sports, that's okay, it's part of the game, right.
Players get hurt all the time. No one is perfect
in the health department. But when these guys are healthy
and you still don't play, I mean, what is That's

(01:30:47):
it's absurd. The NBA needs to get back to the
code of the West and stop trying to use all
this other fugaysy nonsense with these Mama lukes. It is
supposed to be a war of attrition and Jerry rigging
the schedule and all these things that these guys are doing.
Come on, all right? The final thought, so Greg Popovich,

(01:31:08):
even when as far as to call out other NBA teams,
other coaches for what's going on today with load management quote,
it's become kind of silly, Popovich said of the load
management virus it's making its way around the NFL, says

(01:31:30):
I didn't do any kind of load management. Popovich said,
If there's credit in that, I don't deserve it. If
there's the opposite, I don't deserve that either. He said,
I did it because I wanted those guys to have
a longer career. Well, isn't that admitting that you did it?
I mean, hello, hypocrite, talking out of both sides of

(01:31:51):
your mouth, Greg Popovich. Now, my grandfather and my mother,
if they were alive here and I told them about this,
they would say, Greg Popovitch has so much hutzpah, so
much hutzpah for this, My goodness, what a mensch. Sounds
like a scam artist to me, like a classic drifter. Right. Popovitch,
dning with the Devil of load Management, claimed it was

(01:32:13):
just a harmless meal. There was nothing to it. Well,
depending on the daily Here's the other thing about Popovich,
depending on his mood in the day of the week,
Greg Popovitch's answers changed like a kaleidoscope. Back in November.
I looked it up. In November, Popovitch opined, load management
is whatever you want load management to be everyone does

(01:32:35):
it to some degree close quote. That's the everybody's doing
it defense. We talked about that with the Red Sox
and the Astros. So if the crown fits, you should
wear it. This is part of the legacy of Greg Popovitch,
and so rather than tap dance around it, you should
own it. You should own it, all right, Spen Malors

(01:32:59):
show on f have a wild story that came to
us from the NBA. Just a few hours ago. The
Golden State Warriors played a game against the Milwaukee Bucks,
not much of a game. Milwaukee won by nine points.
And you never thought the Bucks were actually gonna lose
to Golden State? Did you have been? Golden State made

(01:33:19):
it a somewhat competitive game, but they've lost by nine
points in the end. But did you see the conversation
between Steph Curry and Jannis at Denta Coombo? You did not? All? Right, Well,
this is where lip reading goes to the next level.
So it's after the game. Then the Bucks have just

(01:33:43):
won the game, and everyone's playing grabass on the court
there and Steph Curry, who's not playing for Golden State
because he's milking that injury, because why would you want
to play with these guys their bumps. So he's taking
the year off to rest up. So Steph Curry's in
a suit and he goes over and he talks to
Adenta Coombo, and the lip readers have determined that here

(01:34:08):
is what Steph Curry said to Janis Adenta Coumbo, Let's
do it, come on, man. And of course people are
saying that that is a reference to the rumors that
Golden State is planning to make in all hands on deck,
run at the Greek Freak and make him the Bay
Area Freak and bring him to San Francisco. And so

(01:34:31):
people are connecting the dots backwards here and saying, wait
a minute, Steph Curry on the court after an NBA
game said let's do it, come on man, just like that. Now,
keep in mind for those of you saying, well, this
is Tampa and Tampa, Tampa, Tampa, Tampa, Tampa, Tampa, Tampa tamper. Unfortunately,

(01:34:56):
as I have learned from all the Laker tampering it's
been going on and all that stuff with le Bron James,
are the Clippers with Lebron um that when players, players
cannot tamper, players can't you know, the players can't executives,
coaches can tamper, but players are allowed to frattnize with
each other and there's no there's no punishment, right, I mean,

(01:35:19):
imagine if Lebron James did this, I mean we would
roast them. Steph Curry Tho has got that sweet smile,
that baby jumper, so we we can't be upset with
Steph Curry. But do I think Giannis Adenta Coombo is
gonna go to the Golden State Warriors. I think there's
a chance. I think there's a legitimate chance. You know,

(01:35:40):
this is the problem the Milwaukee sports teams have year
after year is when they get a good player every
once in a while, there's always people around that player
in their posse who want them to go to a
bigger market, a more high profile team, and and that's
that's the tug. It's the tug of war that you

(01:36:00):
have when you're in a city like Milwaukee. And Jannis
has been on the record years ago saying he never
wanted to play in a big city like New York
or La San Francisco's almost as big as those other cities,
and it's a massive metropolis in northern California. The Bay
Area and all that stuff. But I would say if

(01:36:20):
Jannie continues playing the way he's playing, the smart money
is he's not gonna stay with the Milwaukee Bucks, whether
it's Golden State or the New York Knicks or whoever,
He's gonna go somewhere else. All right, Ben Allas Show
on Fox, and his suspension has ended. Now let's go
to America's favorite drag Queen Kualer in upstate New York.

(01:36:41):
We say hello to a member of the Bills Mafia Flexus. Hello, filexis.
Oh my darling, Happy New Year's Now you're on double zoo.
It's been a while. Now you're on double secret probation.
I hope you know that because you I'm on double probation,

(01:37:02):
double secret probation. But I said it. He supposed apologize
to Yeah, don't you have to apologize to someone? Oh?
I apologized for the United States of America. Yeah, I
don't think that's Yeah, Justice wiest boy one nation on

(01:37:23):
her job. Then all right? That good? No, I don't
think that was that good. Actually, I don't think how
many Republican How many toes do you have? Now? Having honey,
I'm having raised this old tires right, queen racist? Yeah?
You racist? Are you racist? I don't. Oh I'm racist, honey, realist?

(01:37:49):
Why do you like that? Man? Can't you get along
with everybody? Oh? I hate everybody that way. I don't
have to buy my Christmas gift? How is your Christmas flexis?
Did you? Oh? It was? I am roast your toes
over an open fire or something like that. Numb. Yeah,
I roast in my nuts over open fire. All right,

(01:38:11):
thank you for that? All right, I don't know. I
gotta go look at the clock man or a woman
or whatever. Man, that's how it works. Come on, all right,
is the Ben Maller Show. We have My Love Our Balls,
a wonderful, wonderful story about stats stuffing, and people don't

(01:38:33):
look at the fine print, even in sports, people don't
look at the fine print. I'll explain what I mean
by that. We have asked men coming up later in
the hour, we'll get to all that, and we will
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(01:38:53):
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It's Ben Maller. I was trying, you know, sor right.

(01:39:35):
A lot of reaction to Felexis call. Just Josh says
flex is stealing Fluffy Dave's material is pathetic for which
it stands, and then Justin says, the nutty thing is
that felex Is still sings better than Fluffy Dave, which
is amazing. Fluffy Dave called the other day, but he
didn't stay on hold long enough for us to get

(01:39:56):
him on the air. There, So Rob says, Fluffy Dave,
I've died from paint fumes. I blame his wife, that's
what do you. I don't know what that's all about there.
And I also saw a lot of guys reacting to
the our friend from from northern California, mister nice guy,
who's really not nice at all, mister nice guy. No
one thinks he's nice. I know, everyone blocks him, and

(01:40:19):
he doesn't even care. At this point, he says whatever
he says. My emotional support dog rubs his blank when
the Warriors game is on, and sure enough there's video
to back then about if you saw the video there, Roberto.
But sure enough, you know, hey, when you got an itch,
you gotta scratching. You know that's well, you have itchy
and scratchy. That's what that happens there. Back in the day.

(01:40:41):
So I mentioned that nobody reads the fine print, and
my friend here, Eddie over there has been every twenty
minutes or thirty minutes whatever it is, going on and
on about James Harden having a forty point triple double
and Trey Young having a forty point triple double and
how amazing this is. Nobody looks past the final raw numbers.

(01:41:07):
These were bad performances, but they were inefficient performances by
Trey Young and especially James Harden, but both were terrible.
Trey Young took thirty shots, made eleven of them. He
shot less than thirty seven percent from the floor, and
he got sixteen of his points at the foul line.
He was four of eleven from three point range, so

(01:41:28):
he shot thirty six percent from the floor and three
point range and made a bunch of foul shots to
get to the forty two points of the hand. James
Harden James Harden was even more egregious for the Rockets.
He took thirty four shots and made nine of them.
He shot twenty six percent for the Houston Rockets, and

(01:41:51):
from three point range he was four of twenty. That's
twenty percent. But wait, there's more. I know, I'm giving
you a lot of numbers here. Harden had nineteen points
from the foul line. He also almost had a quadruple
double because he had eight turnovers. He was only two
turnovers away from having double digits in that category. And

(01:42:12):
the Rockets won the game by seven against the woebegone
Atlanta Hawks. But neither one of those guys had an
efficient performance. But nobody cares because all they do is
they look at the points, assistant rebounds, and they don't
look at any other category. And by the way, now
I gotta be careful because I'm not buddies with the Rockets,
TV and radio guys. But the James Harden video where

(01:42:36):
I don't know if you saw this or not, but
the teammate p J Tucker, he got out of the
way like there was a hand grenade to make sure
James Harden got his tenth rebound and in that forty
point triple double, and all that did he ad? He
was You're so negative? Am I wrong? Eddy? With what
I say? No? And neither am I when I say

(01:42:59):
that it was the first time it's ever happened in
NBA history. Yeah, but did you point out that Harden
shot twenty six percent and missed twenty five shots. Who cares?
They all nobody shoots well in the NBA anymore. It's
all they do is chuck it up from god knows wherever.
They don't care about watching the NBA game since the eighties.
You are wrong. It's not that bad. It's not that bad.

(01:43:20):
That isn't that's no, they're not watching it for other reasons.
But nobody plays defensive man, No one tries until the playoffs.
That's part of the problem. He just kind of go
through the motions and then when the playoffs start, they
try to play, Yeah, the best one. Ricky Davis through that. Yeah,
Cleveland Cavaliers, the Cadavers. Back in the pre Lebron Jay's

(01:43:42):
Ricky Davis who wanted a triple double and he thought
by throwing the ball off the glass, the wrong glass,
by the way, that he would get credited with a
triple double. It's amazing with the shot. It's amazing that
didn't work out. You know, I thought that would certainly
work out. Um, how about the story going right? You
see that it was a former morning guy here. We

(01:44:03):
used to have a morning show hosted by Stephen A. Smith.
I don't know what he's doing in these days, but
he reported that Kawhi Leonard thinks Lebron James is scared
to guard him, that Lebron is a scaredy cat. Noah,
Stephen talks to different people, Stephen and he talks to
different people, But that smells like yeah. Lou Williams quickly

(01:44:27):
denied that on well, of course lose going tonight. But
I look at this and I said, like, Kawai never
says anything that interesting, So why all of a sudden.
Would Kawai say something that interesting? You know what I mean? Yeah,
it seems like Steve and A was like fishing for
a story, either an NBA story and a Lebron story,
because they actually have a clock over that. I have
friends that work in Bristol and they have a clock

(01:44:49):
every ten minutes you have to either mention Tom Brady
or Lebron James. And if you don't do that, there's problems.
So we have asked Ben. We'll get to that coming
up up in a couple of minutes. We'll take some
more of these phone calls as well, but right now
I'm warning you that we're taking more phone calls. But
right now, over to Eddie we Go, who does not

(01:45:11):
like the facts. He doesn't like when I give you
the facts about James Harden and Trey Young. You're not
a facts guy, Mister negative, Ben Mallory, You'll find you'll
find the bad side of anything. Well, no, I am
a truth teller, is what I am? Your version of
the truth? Well, did I what I said was not wrong?
Nine to thirty four? He missed twenty five shots. I

(01:45:31):
don't think you've had a good day. And eight history
NBA History just mocking me. Now stop, It's so easy
to do though. In the NBA, we had the Bucks
beating the Warriors one oh seven and ninety eight. That
is Milwaukee now with the most wins in the NBA
at thirty three and six. Eddie, we talked about earlier,
Steph Curry recruiting Janis idental Coombo after the game, and

(01:45:54):
the Warriors now time for the most losses in the
NBA at nine and fire Steve Kerr, Fire's Steve Kerr. Yeah,
nine and thirty. That's what I said. The Rockets beat
the Hawks one twenty two to one fifteen to spite
Ben Maller's negative propaganda. NBA history was made in this game.
It had never happened before history of the league. James
Harden goes for forty one points, ten rebounds, ten assists,

(01:46:17):
and Trey Young forty two points, thirteen rebounds, ten assis,
first two players in the history of the National Basketball
Association and have a forty point triple double the very
same game. So amazing. He's still read, Oh, I'm so excited,
I'm aroused. I am incite to me so much negative
my dream come true? How lucky am I? My Sho's

(01:46:39):
the Clippers. He'd be falling over yourself that he beat
the Pacers to fake news. Garcia right there. Nuggets over
the Mavericks one of seven, one of six, Nicole Yokes
thirty three points at the game winning shot with seven
seconds to play for Denver. We had the Spurs beating
the Celtics in Boston one twenty nine to one fourteen.
Kemba Walker with his first career ejection and that one,
you know, but he has some big buckets off the
bench there. He played very well for them. Raptors beat

(01:47:01):
the Hornets one twelve one ten. That one was in overtime.
College basketball five ranked teams in action. They were all
in the top ten. Number two Duke beat Georgia Tech
seventy three sixty four. Number three Kansas a winner over
Iowa State seventy nine two fifty three. Fifth ranked Auburn
over Vanderbilt eighty three seventy nine Tigers or fourteen to
O on the year. Number seven San Diego State now
sixteen to know on the season after seventy two fifty

(01:47:21):
two went over Wyoming, and number ten Florida State down
Wake Forest seventy eight to sixty eight. Online car shopping
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ago about Tom Brady. He was on Instagram. He's on

(01:47:41):
the GRAMA. We call it the Graham Eddy. Only the
cool people do that. Cool. I'm young and hip. You're
old here, you're a boomer. Yeah. So Tom Brady had
a very long Instagram message, thanked a lot of different people.
Did he thank Jesus? Did not think Jesus? Thanked Alex Guerrero,
Thank the fans, you thank the organization, all the folks

(01:48:06):
at work at to Lett Stadium. He quoted Teddy Roosevelt.
This thing goes on and on and on. He quoted
Teddy Roosehead. Yeah he did. Why did he do that?
I don't know. He mean, he thought he'd make him
sound smart. Okay, But let's get to the reason why
I even bring it up, right, is, of course we
all want to know what is the future Tom Brady.
We you know, we know he's not going to retire. Right.

(01:48:26):
The bottom line, the final line. The Instagram message here
we go. I know I still have more to prove.
What does that mean he's got he's got more to prove.
I assume it means he's still you know, several years
ago and I was working at the other stage for
a million likes, by the way, the other station in Boston,

(01:48:48):
they had a morning show, the Kirk and Callahan Show,
and they had Brady on as a paid guest every week.
And Brady said, this is like when it may it
was even before that show is the show before. But
when Aiden Manning said something like I'm going to retire
when I can no longer play whatever, Brady parroted that.
He said, I'm gonna retire when I suck. When I

(01:49:09):
can't play anymore, I retire now. I watched the Patriots
play a lot, and Brady looked like a guy that
sucked a lot for the Patriots. Those guys that sucked
more in the NFL. I don't think you watched many
Patriot games, Eddie. He was bad. We sucked, and we
sucked at a time that you can't games. Do you

(01:49:29):
watch a lot of other NFL games? Any Steeler games
this year? Well, yeah, that's a different They don't have
a quarterback either. They didn't have a quarterback this year
in Pittsburgh, but Tom Brady was on the rope seemingly
every game. I think he was. He wasn't in the
top twenty quarterbacks according to the stats if you just
go by the numbers, and he was just mediocre essentially

(01:49:51):
the same season as Ryan Fitzpatrick or Joe Flacco. These
are not great players. They're not. And that's now where
Tom Brady has resided in that neighborhood of the NFL.
He's slightly better than Sam Darnold at this particular point.
That's that's who Tom Brady is. Have I said Geico, Geico, Geico, Geico.

(01:50:13):
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an interesting question. Why is Eddie so excited he doesn't
even like the NBA. Well, I don't know, Eddie. Why
are you so excited? You're such a defender of James
Harden and Trey Young. I'm not excited. This is your

(01:50:35):
resting Face series. What let's see here, Manic Mike says,
in the real working world band. You'd be called a troublemaker.
I refer to it as a realist, not a troublemaker.
Take that back, Manic Mike, I'll come hunt you down
in Nashville. How dare you? How dare you? Can't do it?

(01:50:55):
Cannot do it? Let's go to the phones. America's favorite
drag queen caller is not on the phone, but America's
favorite homeless caller is weed Man Hippie. Who am I super? Though? No,
we don't know yet. I haven't put the request. And

(01:51:16):
Eddie says, you're not gonna do it. Somebody text me
and said we should get marlins Man instead of you
to do it. Why is everybody going but you? I
never go. I've worked at this company for twenty years.
They don't like I never go. They never sent me anywhere.
But everybody else is going on our own stand Well,

(01:51:39):
Eddie's not going. You know before I've never known is beautiful, Eddie?
What's wrong with you? Can I say, man, we can
I stay at your house? If you know, if I
got to Miami, you know absolutely got you got you
got room there in the cardboard box. I can really
lay down next to you there. Yeah, yeah, we can cuddle. Yeah,

(01:52:05):
but where's Lisa sleeping. She's on the pump. She's on
the pump. But this would just be so great. I
could I could even bring my own video guy. No no, no, no,
no no no. It would just be you. You can't

(01:52:26):
bring a video guy. You're not allowed. It would be
one credential to get you in. Okay, get me. I thought, wait, wait,
I thought, you don't have any friends anyway. There's somebody
that would film me that that first put me on YouTube?
Is this like a just like it's just like a

(01:52:47):
stripper or something like that, you know or something. Come on, listen,
I will do a great job to you and so
much material. Yeah, I know, but I told you it's
out of my hands. I will put the request in.
I believe I will do that, and it's up to management.
And there's a lot of bureaucracy. We work at a
big company here. The super Bowl, the super Bowl time,

(01:53:16):
all right, can I take a show off? There's zero
chance to sampas, there's not zero zero. I can make you.
I could reach management on a bad day or a
good day when they're not really paying attention and slip it.
You slip it past the goaltender. I might be able
to do that, you know, or we can. The other
plan is I could try to get him a credential

(01:53:38):
through somebody else, you know. I mean, hell, there's the
story we're gonna talk about later on about the media
guys stealing or not stealing, but being shady and taking
stuff from NFL players in the locker room after games.
There's a lot of shady people to get credentials to
NFL and other sports venues. All right, why don't we
pause for the cause here and then we will get

(01:53:58):
to ask Ben lead a lap is in the pressure
cooker here, because he's got to come up with enough
questions to get through the whole thing, I thought. Jay
Scoop asked an interesting question. He said, for the whole crew,
would you rather have a world without sports? The gender
you date, or your top ten favorite foods? Buy sports? Yeahs,

(01:54:25):
I'd go favorite foods. Really well, I got a lot
more than ten favorite foods. But my top ten, Man,
your top ten or your top ten, that's your go to,
that's your that's your I'd probably lose some weight doing that,
I don't know. Then I'd have to start eating vegetables.
Like the vegan. Who the hell wants to eat vegetables? Yeah,
eat the vegan. I got there, eat plants and stuff.

(01:54:48):
I'd have to say by the sports too. I believe
I would have to let sports. My entire career about sports,
Jay Scoop, but I'd have to say good bye the sports.
I need my chicken fingers and eat my my pizza,
Mexican food, pizza, Philly cheese, steak. I need all that stuff,
my hot dogs and hamburgers. Oh it's not good man,

(01:55:09):
I haven't eaten a couple of days. I don't want
to hear about food. Man. I'm gonna run out, and
I was gonna wait till Coope got back before I
brought this up. Are you gonna pay off your bet
to me tomorrow since it's Friday? Well? Yes. The bet
was that the Browns would finish Hire in the standings
and the Steams because the other one made the playoffs,
so that was not the best That one made the playoffs,

(01:55:32):
so they both failed. It doesn't matter who I had
more wins than I. Are you both tomorrow or not? No,
I'm not gonna pay it. And because both teams both
teams did not qualify for the playoffs, so it's a
running Pittsburger. No Pittsburgh and made lost of that, and
you were well, both of them missed the playoffs, so
they both sucked. I'm not gonna pay off a bet

(01:55:53):
when the miss Steelers didn't make the playoffs? Are you
crazy life? Not a low life? All right? We will
have Are you done? I We'll have asked Ben. Your
questions are answers. We'll get to that for the rest
of the hour. Culture you're trying to get a free
pizza pie. Your team didn't make the plus. Oh no

(01:56:14):
it's not pizza. Oh no, no, no, it's fat sounds.
No new pay Your team didn't make Chief Fast. Both
teams sucked. The bettest void, the bettest void. You are
a man of no turn his mike off. We'll have

(01:56:35):
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(01:57:20):
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but you can ask any one of us the question.
We're all available. What do we have here? Lee? All right?

(01:57:41):
First question of the night, you guys from Cardiac stan
on Twitter? Here? Hi Stanley, everyone, would you rather know
when you're gonna die or how you're gonna die? Yeah?
You know we've been asked about this. I think from planning.
If you knew when you were gonna die, you could
really go for it, right, you could do crazy things.
So your your death date is already determined, predetermined, So

(01:58:03):
like you could become a daredevil because you know you're
not gonna die until a certain date. Although when you
got close to that date, Boy, would that suck? Right?
Wouldn't that suck? But the other if you knew how
you were going to die, what if it was like
a really bad death, that would that would freak you
out right? You wouldn't know when it's gonna happen. I
guess you could avoid the activity if they said you

(01:58:24):
were going to burn up, and you know, a fire
or something. I can avoid fire, but or drown in
the ocean. You just wouldn't go to the ocean. You know?
What about you? Eddie? I would I would pick knowing
the date. I both would suck, but a neither one
is good. I think I would pick how Sophie's choice
is what this is? Yeah? Yeah, and just hope that uh,

(01:58:46):
you know, it wasn't something too horrific. So you'd rather
know how you were going to check out? All right, Roberto,
how pick your poison here? I guess I want to
know when them I'm gonna die? Then you can make plans,
have a big party in the night before, Yeah, jump
out of arab n which I would never do. I
would probably do this. Well, that's what they do on
death row, right, they have big, big meals and all that.

(01:59:08):
They know when they're gonna die on death row. So
there are people in the world that know when they're
gonna die, when they're gonna meet their maker lead a whip.
What would you do? Lee? A lot of logic going
both ways. I guess I would go with how because then, yeah,
you could avoid it for at least a certain amount
of time, but it would probably be something generic like
a car crash or something. So you just just have
to you know what, it's like, you're gonna die in

(01:59:28):
your sleep and you're like, well, I gotta sleep every time.
I mean, that's I mean, I think I would worry
about it less. I would. Yeah, I would just go
about my day like one of these days, or if
they they're vaguely like, you're gonna choke on something and
die that way, but not when I canna tell you
what food it is. But you gotta eat, you know.
So all right, it's asked, Ben, Your questions are answers

(01:59:49):
what is next? All right? Derek Rodgers on Facebook? Ask
Happaron Rodgers? Yeah, Derek Rodgers is uh not not as
well as at what's your favorite NFL team? The Packers? Yeah?
I love is the green Bay practice? That's right? Go ahead.
I was wondering what is the most interesting app on

(02:00:09):
your phone? For the crew? Uh, let's see what is it?
You know? I don't use too many apps. I play
the game I've been playing a lot is Ko Trivia.
I've been playing that a lot, which is an app.
And I have a an app I use to count
the minutes I've been fasting so I can do a

(02:00:30):
victory lapp when I keep track of that and one
of those I use those a lot. What about you
and my sleep Number app? By the way, I love
sleep Number. I adjust my bed with my sleep Number app.
It's always in my top app selections. What about you, Eddie?
I have the Shazam app, which I like a lot.
What is that? Well, if you hear a song, like
there's a song being played anywhere and you can hear it,

(02:00:51):
you hit the app and it'll tell you exactly who
the artist is. And so I don't know any of
they say that's Lizzo. You know, okay, it's a Lizzo song. Yeah,
you know, you're like, what song is that? You kind
of know what song of that is? You can hit
that app and it'll tell you. I understand. I thought
it was kind of cool. I don't know how interesting
there's been interesting to me. It's very boring. Roberto. You're
like mine McCarthy. I got that shazam. Also, you don't

(02:01:12):
have this shazam? What? Also? Whatever? You don't like music
though I do like music. I just don't really care
what I mean, you know whatever. I just don't speak
for me. What's the lost concert you went to? Yeah, exactly,
Hoodie and the Blowfish. It was wayneo Tango Kiss FM concert.
I was a security guard back you were back in
the ninth Yeah, a long time ago. Now. Actually, my

(02:01:35):
wife made me force me to go to the Hollywood
Bowl for what was it? This is not This is
not answer to your wife forcing you and you working.
You going. You hate music some British band or something
I forget, wasn't the Beatles. I know that. But anyway,
where are we at? Roberto? Yeah? This jam and whatever?

(02:01:56):
When ell it's fantasy. I'm fantasy. Basketball. So I'm using
that ESPN fan Seem Fantasy app a lot right now. Yeah,
good plug for them. Buy what a buy Lee? I
have that app that was developed by Jordan Palmer, Carson
Palmer's brother, called the run p app and you you
you start it when you start a movie at the
movie theater, and it buzzes you when the best time

(02:02:16):
is to go to the bathroom, and it tells you
what you're missing. That's pretty good. It is weird. That's
good though. I like that. That's because I like to
do or get snacks. Right, you're not just the bathroom,
but you get that refill on the tub of popcorn
that's cost them seventy cents, but it's worth nine dollars
at the movie theater. All right, what's next? We have
time for maybe a couple of Well, this one's kind

(02:02:38):
of a two parter for the crew. Is Coop dead?
I don't know, I have not spoken. How do you
know that? Sim you know, be his girlfriend or proxy?
I don't know? And then uh And then Jose Perez
from Facebook also follows up with hashtag for coup Uh.
Kind of morbid questions since you have acting credits to

(02:02:59):
your name, would you want to be in a member
memorandum in any Actor awards ceremony? And since he's not here,
I'll answer for him. I will say no, No, I
will not want to be in that. No. Is that
where they do like the end of the year? Yeah, yeah,
this guy, Yeah, in memoriam, in memorium, it was close,
Lee was close. Do they do that in radio? You know,

(02:03:21):
like so and so passed away this year? Did they
just say your name out loud? Don Imus is dead?
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(02:04:05):
our daily check at where the gambling market is on
this weekend's playoff games, the second round of the NFL
playoffs they called the Divisional Round. So where is the money?
Follow the money, It's very important know where the money is.
Still early in the week, most people don't bet on
these NFL games until the very end of the week.

(02:04:26):
That's typically how this goes. Typically how this goes you
wait till the very end of the week. But we
have some of the numbers on where the money is
right now on the gambling market for the big NFL weekend,
So we're gonna take a look at that now. The
first game on the Divisional Round, the early game involves
the Vikings and the forty nine Ers. The Vikings and

(02:04:50):
forty nine Ers in this game being played in the
Bay Area, and as our friends sports plus pointed out,
the most valuable ticket on the secondary market is this
particular game because of all the dot com money in
Northern California. So they know they can price gouge and
they're like, I'm all about that. I am all about
that price gouging, boss, I'm all about it. So as

(02:05:12):
far as the Viking forty nine A game, the forty
nine Ers opened an eight point favorite. They're favored by
seven currently and about seventy percent of the money now
a little over that is coming in on the forty
nine ers. So that's a big number, a touchdown number
in the playoffs. But there's a lot of people betting
on the forty nine ers, which makes me like the
Vikings even more. Which makes me like the Vikings even more.

(02:05:34):
Then you've got the Titans and the Ravens. Ravens opened
a nine and a half point favorite. The line has
stayed the same on that game, and the numbers about
a little over sixty percent are putting their money on
the Ravens. And then the games on Sunday in the
divisional playoffs, you've got the Texans and the Chiefs, and

(02:05:54):
the Chiefs opened up a seven point favorite. They're all
the way up to nine and a half and most
of the sharps are all over the Chiefs. The big gamblers,
the big whales are all over the Chiefs. That's why
it's gone up because the money is pretty even. So
as far as these small time gamblers are putting their
money on the Texans, it's not that biggest bread. And

(02:06:17):
then Seattle and Green Bay, you've got that matchup. The
Packers open to three point favor they're favorite by four
right now at lombole Field and a slight lean to Seattle.
Plus four, we will have the Benny Versus the Penny podcast,
which will be up later today. It's called the Fifth
Hour with Ben Maller. And there's only like four games

(02:06:39):
where we did like an hour breaking down all four games,
and that'll be up later today. Now, as far as
the story that I was going to get to at
the start of the art, let's get to it right now.
The Minnesota Vikings are dealing with distraction. Now, Minnesota gonna
kick off the division around we just said against the
forty dollars. The cloud of Scando is hovering over the

(02:07:01):
Twin Cities. It involves Kyle Rudolph, the red nose tight end.
I don't know if you saw this or not, but
Kyle Rudolf the hero for the Vikings. He's the guy
that caught the touchdown, even though the Saints defensive player
was cheating against Kyle Rudolph in that final play in
the Dome in Louisiana. So anyway, Kyle Rudolph admitted he

(02:07:21):
was hornswaggled by a member of the media. Now what happened.
This was after the playoff win in the Bayou. The
Viking tight end said. He said this he was approached
by a credential member of the media and asked to
give his game gloves to this particular person to raise
money for charity. Well, Rudolph is a man of the community.

(02:07:44):
He said, yes, I will absolutely give you my game gloves.
I'll even autograph these game gloves for you because I
want to give back to charity. So what do you
think happened next? Have you seen this plot twist? Right?
Plot twist? So those gloves Kyle Rudolph gave to this
media member almost immediately popped up on eBay and were

(02:08:05):
sold on the public auction site for less less than
four hundred dollars three hundred and seventy five dollars. Now, Rudolph,
he tweeted about as he said he saw that these
things were sold. He said, it was disappointing. This scam
artist got him, he admitted, Gotti I got. I was
taken to the cleaners. So let's discuss now the question

(02:08:27):
what is your reaction to all of this internet auction
drama involving Kyle Rudolph of the Vikings. Now I've got
the proverb, the dosing and the happy ending and we'll
get all not that kind of happy ending Bob Kraft,
all those things. We'll put all those things together. Not
to lead off with we are talking about dirty gloves

(02:08:49):
is what we're talking about. Game used, And I've been
in NFL lockers. I've smelled the musty sweat smell of
those uniform pieces of disgusting scope. Not a game. We're
talking about gloves, not a game. Not a game. Dirty
gloves is what we're talking about. You gotta love the
subplot of the NFL postseason. It's like, Alex, let me

(02:09:11):
have the category things I didn't expect to talk about
on sports radio for a thousand dollars. Now, ultimately the
scumbag in the story is the media guy. However, Kyle
Rudolph I believe is tremendously gullible. I'm believing, and I'm
gonna tell you why he didn't know this media person

(02:09:33):
from Adam, What are you doing right? The media is
filled with a bunch of shady actors, unsavory characters. I know.
I work in the media. I'm around these people all
the time. Now, there's a proverb that I believe applies
to this that says, no good deed goes unpunished, right,
no good deed goes unpunished, and that would apply to

(02:09:55):
Kyle Rudolph. I try to do the right thing, get
back to charity, and it's just some by trying to
make a couple of bucks. Furthermore so, the media guy
who pulled off the hustle on the Viking player is
on borrowed time. Now what do I mean by that?
He is about to be outed and exposed in my

(02:10:17):
evidence on that. The social media sluice are digging around
the dark web as we speak to try to find
out pertinent personal information. The mob mentality has kicked in
and the term is doxing, right old fashioned doxing, which
means that before long we will find out this person's name,

(02:10:41):
their age, their email, their wife's name if they're married,
their kids names, their address, their telephone number, their employer,
all that. What a dumb dumb We already know he's
from Indianapolis. The reporter that was involved in this or
claims to be from Indianapolis. The process of elimination is

(02:11:03):
not going to be kind. And your digital fingerprints are
all over a site like eBay. There is no anibity,
there's none of it. Now I have some other evidence.
The same person who was involved with the Viking tight end,
Kyle Rudolph and his Dirty Gloves, also sold trash bags
of Super Bowl confetti in twenty nineteen. He's got a

(02:11:25):
whole cottage industry going here, so he sold trash bags
of confetti. He's been selling game used gloves going back
thirteen years. This guy's been doing this apparently for thirteen
years according to the Internet. How about that started in
twenty h seven. Kind of reminds you a little bit,

(02:11:47):
although this is more long term. Remember the Super Bowl
Tom Brady jersey, the reporter from Mexico stole the jersey
and they're like FBI was involved and it's wild man crazy.
But this particular person, this reporter, has a side business
selling game hues memorabilia. It will be gotten gains from
being in the media and being in the locker room.

(02:12:09):
And it sounds like the jig is up right. I
don't think this person will be able to do it.
I guess they change their eBay name trying to throw
off the mob that's out to get them. Now, last
thing here, so the story appears to have a happy ending.
What do I mean by that? A person who bought
the gloves on eBay has contacted Kyle Rudolph and offered

(02:12:31):
to donate them to charity, the charity of his choice.
And this guy, Jason from Woodbury Heights, New Jersey, thirty
four year old guy, loves the vikings and a number
of charities asked to help out, but Kyle Rudolph picked
the University of Minnesota Children's Hospital and they will be

(02:12:52):
the beneficiary of this. And I would imagine that these
things will be auctioned off again and this thing will
go for like at least five ten thousand dollars instead
of three hundred and seventy five dollars, which was the
price point from back in the day there just a
couple of days ago. I meanwhile, I'm gonna transition away

(02:13:12):
from this story, even though it's a good story, because
we have some great NBA sound and when you work
in radio and all you have is the audio platform,
you've got to get to the audio tape. So we
had a rhubarb in the NBA Jimmy Butler, very feisty
of the Miami Heat. Jimmy Butler got into it with
TJ Warren. Who the hell is TJ? Warren. You say, well,

(02:13:35):
he's a basketball player for the Indiana Pacers. It was heated,
it was ugly. Jimmy Butler kissed Warren goodbye when he
fouled out of the game. But listen to Jimmy Butler
not holding back unfiltered when talking about TJ. Warren. To me,
I think it's tough for him because I can guard him.

(02:13:58):
He can't guard me. Like at the end of that,
that's what it comes down to. Um. But like I said, UM,
I think you just got to watch your mouth in
certain situations. There's something that you just don't say. As
a man. I mean, wow, he gotta he gotta see
me the next time because I feel like what he
said was truly disrespectful. It's all good because, um, we
see him again. I'm I ain't scared of nobody, so

(02:14:18):
you know he talking about, oh, we're gonna fight, just
that just that it is what it is to me.
He's not he's not even in my league, like nowhere
near me. And if I was there, coach, I would
I would never put him on me. Ever again, He's like, no,
put somebody else on because I'm a tad. Every time
we bought can you tell me how you really feel,

(02:14:41):
Jimmy Butler, can ya? All right? There's some good drops
in that he's not even in my f and league
and all that. That's good solid. What what could t. J.
Warren have said? Like, what what possibly could have been
said to Jimmy Butler to get that kind of reaction?
I mean typically you say, well, you talked about your
mama or your Instagram booty model girlfriend or your kid

(02:15:03):
or something like that. Those are always the big ones, right,
those always the big ones. But it sounds like it
was something very personal, like from Jimmy, but I'm more
personal leaving that stuff like I'm talking about something from
the younger days of Jimmy Butler when he's growing up.
I don't know. Must have been something good though, must
have been something really good. Right, that's good audio. I

(02:15:25):
love when we get good audio. Thank you, Jimmy Butler
the Miami he has a good job. By you, Jimmy.
I've been on team Butler. Hey, Philadelphia wishes they had
Jimmy Butler right now instead of Al Horford. They'd rather
have Butler. And even when he didn't even play that
well in a lot of these games, and they still
the heater winning winners. You think he talked to Karl

(02:15:47):
Anthony Towns and Andrew Wiggins that way. Maybe that's why
they got offended. They didn't like him on the team. Yeah,
my favorite Jimmy Butler. Why were a couple of favorite
Butler stories, But the one I'll share with you right
now is remember when he was trying to get out
of Minnesota and they had that Amos practice where he
was playing with like the backups, and he beat the
starters and then he called in like Rachel Nichols, the reporter.

(02:16:08):
NBA reporters showed up. Just happened to be the same
day they filled her into Minnesota, even if she's based
in LA to do a one on one with Jimmy Bah.
He was all stage. It was all choreographed. Now, I
was on the radio years ago. I don't know if
anybody else remembers this story, but the Portland Trailblazers were
playing the Golden State Warriors, and as I remember, I

(02:16:30):
believe it was the Rashid Wallace era of the Blazers,
but maybe I'm wrong on that. Might have been bondsi Wells,
but some combination of Trailblazer players in the tunnel under
the Colosseum arena there in Oakland. Got the Blazer players
tried to Warriors and Blazers like we're trying to fight

(02:16:52):
under the I forget exactly the details, but it was
like a huge story for a couple of days, Like
I think it was. The Blazer player tried to get
over to the Warrior player, and then the Warrior player
responded and try to get on the team bus. And
we had the old Blazers played by play guy Brian Wheeler,
our friend Wheels. We had him on as a guest,

(02:17:13):
like right after that happen? Will Jimmy Butler be fined
for these comments? Adam silver Man, he's woke. Adam Silver's
the woke commission. Let's go to a former caller who
doesn't call the show much anymore, from a different generation
of the Mallard Militia. Jet Fuel George is checking in.

(02:17:34):
Hello jet Fuel George, Hello, ducky. It's nice to be
a generational person, you know. And by the way, don't
ever put me on after we've men, hippie, he's not
even in my in my f and league. Okay, oh
you have a job, so of course he's not in
your I do have a job. I do. But if

(02:17:55):
you hear like certain bells and whistles, they keep giving
me these new, brand new trucks that have space age
technology in them, and uh yeah, basically, I'm just kicking
back on cruise control and I put a destination in
the truck's gonna take me there? Isn't that what I
learned that on the Simpsons? Like it wasn't there an
episode of the Simpsons where the truck drew drove itself
across the country and like the guy choked on a

(02:18:17):
steak in that episode of the Simpsons, and then Homer
had to drive the truck and it drove itself. Man,
I don't think I've ever watched a whole episode of
The Simpsons. I'm not talking to you. There's people listening
to the damn show. I'm tired of them. No, it's
not about It's not about us. It's not about us.
I know you want to make it about us, And
I like that you're bragging. We have all these other

(02:18:38):
truck drivers listening, and you're bragging to them. I get
these these guys are driving around and you know, disgusting
rigs and you've got the state of the art. Rig
you're bragging about it. You're doing the humble bragg thing.
Nobody likes a humble bragger. Well you know that's okay.
I don't give a f what they like. I really don't.
You're at that age yet, fuel George where you don't
care anymore. Hey, pretty soon we're gonna be his senior

(02:19:00):
citizens in a lot of places in the country, and
I'm excited about that. But Ben, what I really want
to talk about, don't Okay, No, it's my wife and
I it's missus Jeff Jill George. But anyways, four years now,
I haven't watched an NFL football game, but something you
said on my way into work today touched my heart.
I actually did turn on the second half of the

(02:19:21):
Titans Patriots game, and Brady looks like, crap, the dude
needs to retire. I mean, he's old, he was always slow,
and his arm I think his arms going. His brain
might be there, but his arm's not going. And Ben,
you know I can't. I can't have a phone call
less I talk about you know that forty year old
nerds that lives in his mom's basement and she takes
care of him. You know, the Clippers live in the

(02:19:43):
basement at the Staples Center, and it's finally nice to
see they have a good team. I mean, even though
you know Kawhi Leonard's got a need that uh you know,
he's gonna have to have replace her in a couple
of years, it's nice to have. He's a basketball But
if guys listen, I listened to the NBA channel a
lot apolis what's happening. I know what's happening if the
NBA has happened to NFL. People bashed the NFL so

(02:20:06):
much and so much bad pub publicity with the concussions
and stuff. No one watches it anymore. That's not The
NFL ratings are back. They were down with the Kaepernick thing,
but they they I think nine of the top eleven
nine of the top eleven shows or NFL shows. The
I don't listen to you enough, man, But the NBA
is going down that road. There's all there's so much
negative publicity. Every time you turn on the radio, somebody's

(02:20:29):
complaining about you know, you're complaining about two forty point
triple doubles. I mean, yeah, you know, you're right in
the eighties or the nineties or even the two thousands.
That's not good basketball. And it's hard for me to
turn on a basketball game with James Harden or you
know people like that. But still, forty forty point triple doubles,
two of them in a game is something. And you've
gotta you gotta recognize that the guy missed twenty five

(02:20:52):
shots and shot twenty six percent from the floor. How
is that a good game? Exactly? Should eight at eight?
He had eight turn version. I don't understand. I'm here, Yeah,
all right, to your guys, go away, thank you, all right.
Jet Fuel George was living in la He lives in
Texas now. Came in here a few times years ago.

(02:21:14):
We had him in here, and you'll be happy to
know Jet Fuel George, because I know you're listening right now.
The studio looks exactly the same as when you came
in here fifteen years ago. They have not changed anything.
It's like a museum. It's like a damn museum around here,
and we're very happy about that. We have Puck the
World with Eddie. We got Factor fiction as well. We'll
get to all that and we'll do it next. Jerk
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(02:22:18):
palette we unload. About that, I wonder how many palettes
were damaged and stuff was stolen before they decided to
put that in. Must have been a fair amount there. Man,
all right, it's the Ben Maller Show. Let's go see.
We got Cowboys Corner, we got Eddie with Puck the World,
and Joe in San Antonio. Hello Joe, Hey Ben, welcome back.

(02:22:46):
Happy New Year. I think that's a true happy New Year.
Don't upset me. I'll take another week off don't upset me.
For those that are wondering why I was away so long,
I took an extra week because Joe and San Antono
emailed me pretty much every day complaining about Jonas and
Plank and all these other people and calling me names,

(02:23:06):
and because of that, I took an extra week just
to annoy you. That's right, Hey, I got a two
part question for you. I love two parts. You know,
those are the worst questions in journalism school, not that
I'm a journalist, but the best question certainly in talk radio.
All Right, the greatest question is a quick question where
the person that you're interviewing doesn't have time to respond

(02:23:29):
and think of an answer. Right, that's the greatest question. Well,
we could get it over with really quick if you
stopped talking very sassy pans. Answer is equally quick. Okay,
you made it sound like the Spurs beating the Celtics

(02:23:50):
up in Boston was a fluke. But I don't think
it was. But here's the question. Man Walkee with the
most wins in the NBA, queen into whom was their
latest loss? No, I know this, this is easy. Harlem
Globetrotters boom, Yeah, I'm right, What do I win San Antonio,

(02:24:16):
Antonio Spurs the muddy walk. Who shocking that? You? You
the Spurs paetic performance? Homer, san Antonio Homer, Yeah, Santonio,
home of load management. That's right, you the birthplace of
load management. They should put that on the sign, Welcome

(02:24:36):
to San Antonio, the birthplace of load management in the NBA.
Be careful coming here because you could get load management. Yeah. Yeah,
you couldn't say those words. That's why I asked you
the question. It would pain you too much to say that.
I'm fine. I'm happy where the Spurs are. They have
a losing record and Greg Popovitch seems very upset, and

(02:24:59):
so I'm happy. Yeah. Yeah. They had a rough stretch
at the beginning of the season, but I'll tell you
one thing. They're in better shape now than they were
last week and the week before, and that's a positive sign.
If you have to motion more names, you will have
to mention their name when it comes to playoff time.
And it's good enough. Hurt for you for the twenty

(02:25:20):
third CONSECUTI oh stop, what are you a pr guy
for San Antonio? All right, I gotta go. No one
wants to hear this. Thank you, go away. Go call
Spurs talk and give them that kind of stuff. Okay,
I don't need to hear that. Geez all right, spend
the show. We got a lot of content here to come.

(02:25:42):
We've got Cowboys corner. We'll check in with him. We
also have fact or fiction. Eddie's got puck the world.
But to double dose of Eddie Garcia because he will
now enlighten you on all that's going on in sports.
So the overnight hours into the morning hours and lots
of basketball to tell you about. We'll check on NBA
games of note where the Bucks beat the war Years

(02:26:03):
one oh seven to ninety eight in Milwaukee. Now thirty
three and six on the year. That's the most wins
in the NBA Golden State nine and thirty eight tied
for the most losses. He buried the league league. Steph
Curry told Jana Seneta Coopo after the game, let's do it.
Come on man, Yeah, he recruited him. After the game.
I've seen the video. Rockets beat the Hawks one twenty
two to one fifteen. Houston's James Harden forty one points,

(02:26:25):
ten rebounds, ten assists in the win and lank News Garcia.
He missed twenty five shots, shot twenty six percent from
the floor, and had eight turnovers. Atlanta's Trey Young forty
two points, thirteen rebounds, ten assists and the loss. He
shot thirty percent thirty six percent from the floor and
had a bunch of turnovers. Also, they are the first
players in NBA history to have a forty point triple
double in the same game. Not impressed, well, no one else.

(02:26:46):
I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to the people.
He beat the Pacers one twenty two to one oh eight,
Nuggets over with the Mavericks one oh seven, one of six.
Nicola Yokis thirty three points, including the game when he
shot with seven seconds to play for Denver. Spurs down
the Celtics one twenty one fourteen. Kemba Walker his first
career action in that game for Boston and in overtime.
The Raptors beat the Hornets one twelve one ten. College basketball,
we had five ranked teams in action. They were all

(02:27:06):
top ten teams. Number two Duke beat Georgia Tech seventy
three sixty four. Number three Kansas a winner over Iowa
State seventy nine to fifty three. Fifth ranked Auburn improved
at fourteen and oh with an eighty three seventy on
winner for Vanderbilt seventh rank, San Diego State sixteen and
oh after knocking out Wyoming seventy two fifty two and
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(02:29:14):
It's Cowboy up on the Ben Mallow Show. Cowboy John
bradon Windsor, Ontario looks like a boarding Ben and everybody
with My brother in law, Damn Beck, would have been
sixty four today, but I lost him to a heart
attack January twenty first, two thousand and seventies, only fifty one,
and I rested Peth Elizabeth Wrefore, the author of the
bestseller Prozac Nation in nineteen eighty four, and from one

(02:29:38):
handsome Brady to a much less handsome Brady. Congratulations coach
Hope for getting the San Diego State top job for
the second time yesterday. Welsh Babe Dame Shirley Batsy, who
sang the gold Thing your Team sat in the sixties,
was eighty three. Bob U Banks was eighty two. Bart
Star whatever heard eighty six today, but he died last

(02:29:58):
made twenty six. Dousted Diamond has played screech On saved
by the bow was a forty three manning your favorite quarterback?
I was thirty nine. Bye, that is a complete load
of craps. Screeches forty three? Last time? Didn't he do

(02:30:19):
a porn movie? Screech? No? What did you see that?
Eddie told me? By it it's called screech, not me.
I didn't know it. Chuck Benn, if he was a laptop,
if he was a hockey player, you would know all
about speaking of that. That's pluck the world right now

(02:30:40):
over to Eddie, we go for all your hockey dirt. Well.
We had our sixth head coaching change the NHL this
past week, as the Nashville Predators said goodbye to Peter Lavilette.
He had been the head coach there since twenty fourteen,
made the playoffs every season he was buying the bench
took him the first day of the Cup Final in
twenty seventeen, which they lost to the Penguins. But with
high expectations this season, the struggled second to last their

(02:31:01):
division out of a playoff spot, and so John Hin's
former head coach in the New Jersey Devils, has replaced
Peter from the HINDI not spelled the same Way Veteran
veteran forward Justin Williams is returning to the Carolina Hurricanes
after taking the first half of the season off. The
thirty eight year old former captains at three times Stanley
Cup winner, former Consomite Trophy winner as playoff MVP. He

(02:31:22):
had contemplated retirements and has decided, Man, I guess I'll
come back after all. Buffalo Saber star rookie Victor Olivson
gonna be out five or six weeks with a lower
body injury, injured when he fell awkwardly after his skate
hit a rut in the ice. It might be a
load management, Eddie, It probably not. Leads all rookies the
season with thirty five point sixteen goals for to two
games and Santesy Sharks captain Logan Couture expected to be

(02:31:43):
out six weeks of a broken ankle Minnesota while they're
gonna host the Buttercup. Yeah, those broken bones, get out there,
nothing man. Minnesota Wild'll be hosting these slides twenty twenty
one Winter Classic at Target Field against it yet to
be determined to opponent, most likely the defending Stanley Cup
champion Saint Louis Blues that'll be snowing. It's not fun
unless it's snow Ask Roberto's Mexican doppler. Maybe he can

(02:32:05):
help you out with Mexican Doppler twenty now. Yeah, we've
updated the doppler. This will be the second outdoor game
for Minnesota, but the first time hosting a Winter Classic,
which is played on January the first, and a little
more cashier with that game. Meanwhile, Commissioner Gary Bettman praised
the more than twenty thousand Nashville Predators fans who made
the trip to Dallas for a twenty twenty Winter Classic.
It said the NHL is working on getting the city

(02:32:26):
of Nashville and outdoor hockey game. Yeah. He then also
said they're going to pay for all their travel to
Dallas for the game. Pittsburgh Penguins minor league goalie Casey
de Smith miss the chances. Jordan is his name, Casey Smith,
mister chance to join the NHL team in Montreal on Saturday.
He beat up in elementary school way. He couldn't find
his passport. That's a problem. It is a problem. Do

(02:32:46):
you know where your passport is? I think so not totally.
Schmine has been expired for years and I'm like, well,
I was gonna get a new passport you only last
like ten years. But I was like, I don't have
money to go anywhere, so why would I get a flight?
You need one? You never leave the country exactly. That's
what I told my wife. But she's like, she has
these wild dreams about going too, you know, England and Australia,
New Zealand and all that, like Angry Bill rob some

(02:33:10):
Banks or something like that. Sure, and I saved this
for you. You missed this while you were gone. But
your boy. John Tortorella had a great reports after his
team got really screwed in a game against the Blackhawks,
say they should have won the game. Instead they ended
up losing in the shootout, and his goalie got injured
and he's gonna miss several weeks. And he criticized the officiating,
which was one hundred percent. You have the audio here.

(02:33:32):
I don't because I heard the audi heat he was great,
pounded the podium and yeah, right, but here he is.
He was one hundred percent correct that he got screwed. Well,
the NHL find with twenty thousand dollars and they also
gave him a conditional fine of twenty five thousand dollars
if he makes any similar comments at any point the

(02:33:54):
rest of this calendar year. You ever heard of that before? No,
I've never heard of that. So they've told but means
like January first of twenty twenty one, it's open seasoned,
guns a blazing right. He's gotta way to that date
and he's got to save all this stuff up. Now,
what are the chances that Tortorella is a boy scout
on his best behavior here? No, he's gonna almost zero exactly.

(02:34:16):
He's gonna be fined again. He's gonna go on a rant.
I love the guy. I'm amazed. He sucked at television.
He worked at NBC a while ago, and he was terrible.
But he's a wonderful angry coach after games, and we
sucked at a time that you can't suck. He's better
than Belichick, He's better than Pop of it. Right here
you go. The whistle is blown at nineteen point two

(02:34:39):
on the clock. For some reason, the clock has run
down a second to a tenth to eighteen point one.
For whatever reason, I have no Yeah, instead of resetting
the clock, pounding the podium, we have them tell our captain,
We're not gonna do it. Toronto doesn't step in, refston't

(02:34:59):
different can job and now we lose the game and
we lose our goalie. So the chain of events, if
it was done right, we don't lose our goalie, we
win the hockey game. Wow. So all this technology right,
the technology and getting things right, the stubbornness tonight by
the officials and by the league and Toronto. However it's

(02:35:20):
supposed to whoa screws us almost it's ridiculous, right, I'm
not taking anything. WHOA. That's good sound, Eddie's good audio.
But let me say one thing to touch up the
whoever edited that. Yeah, it's funnier when you put beeps

(02:35:42):
rather than just take and put dead air there agreed
for comedy reasons. If that was a beep beep, it
would be so much funnier, it would be so much
more enjoyable. But good job by George. I thank you
for that. Eddie. There it is Puck the world. Thank you.
All right, we will have fact or fiction and we
will get to that coming up here momentary. We have
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(02:36:04):
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Welcome in our contestants. We have a celebrity panel of judges,
the best in the brightest that will be part of this.
We say hello to the Power Couple, our first conversation
in twenty twenty, Leslie and Jack the judge. Hello, lastly

(02:37:33):
and Brandon and Florida. Happy twenty twenty. Then a whole
new decade. I know, how amazing is it twenty twenty.
Isn't it crazy to be alive in the year twenty twenty?
It's nuts to me, It's amazing, wild wild, Yeah, how
did you guys celebrate? Did you have a frolicking good
time on New Year's Eve? Always, that's always. Yeah. You
probably got a little boozed up there. Did you stay

(02:37:54):
up till midnight? Certainly? Yes, yeah, London time. I was
an on Long Island and Jack was in Florida. Oh
that's right, that's right, And you successfully made it back
to Florida. Now Jack's going to go to the dog
track and he'll be back in about a week. No, No,
is a dog track closed or is it still open?

(02:38:16):
It's about to move too far away for accessibility and
the geographically undesirable. I believe is the term, and in
other ways too. I hear you, I hear you. All right, well,
thank you, hold on, Laslie. I'm glad you're doing well. Yes, yes,
all right, hold on a second, thank you? Who else
do we have? Justin and Cincinnati? Are you gonna play?

(02:38:37):
Are you just gonna say something offensive so we can
hang up on you? No, I'll play. But Robbie's been
on load management since he was conceived. He might have.
I even asked demo guy in the Twin City demo guy.
They're doing some demo at the Mallard Mansion today. I
should have hired you instead. You got it, Dan? How

(02:38:57):
are you doing? If I was in any better I
would be a man, but not weed man hippie because
he doesn't have a job. You know. Yeah, we'll blow
him up. Then blow him up, blow him? What are
you blowing up today? You have anything going on today? Yeah? Well,
we're doing a couple of floors downtown Minneapolis. There you going? Now?

(02:39:19):
Are there other people in the bill? You gotta be careful, man,
there's other people around there. You can't make too much noise, right, Yeah,
that's why we worked nights so we ain't got to
disturb anybody. So there you go, cover of darkness. Like
I worked nights too, so I don't have to disturb
anybody when I talk, you know, yea? All right, hold
on a sectem go mikes. Yeah, you gotta be fired up. Man,

(02:39:39):
it's a big Viking game with the fight forty nine
ers on Saturday afternoon. Uh Bob in Vegas? I believe
it is Hello Bob. I think it's Rob. Oh. Oh,
that's right, it is Rob. But they put Bob well.
Bob and Rob are the same, and for Lee to lap,
they sound exactly alone. Mine Ben on your bet with

(02:40:00):
Daddie Man, there's no I didn't I read the fine print,
and both teams sucks, so the bet is void. If
Pittsburgh had made the playoffs, I would have paid up
the bet, no problem. They didn't make the plaoffs, but
they were as bad as the Browns. Do the right thing.
He won't weed, man? Are you still there? Oh? Thank god?

(02:40:25):
I think he's gone? Is he gone? He hung up? Hallelujah?
Thank you Jesus. All right, he's no man, let's going.
All right, Let's get to the game. It's factor fiction.
We'll give you three stories. Are you listening, driving around
or whatever you're doing. Who am I to judge? Make

(02:40:45):
sure you're flushed though? If you yeah, all right. So
I'll give you three stories. Figure out which of the
three is not true, separating fiction from facts. Story number one,
who doesn't like a good celebrity boxing match? Well, a
fight that nobody's been waiting for could actually happen Logan
Paul Internet celebrity in air quotes. Logan Paul has apparently

(02:41:10):
called out Antonio Brown he wants to fight in a
boxing match, and apparently Antonio Brown's like, I'm down with that.
I'm cool with that. It's happened over at Barstool. Back
in December, Paul initially called out Antonio Brown. Says, Antonio Brown,
I want to know f you up and all this stuff,
Paul said at the time. Will Brown is down tweeting
at Paul recently to square up, and TMZ reports it's

(02:41:35):
a legit possibility, Sue, wouldn't that be great? Story number
two coming soon? Well. Netflix released a trailer for Killer
Inside the Mind of Aaron Hernandez, the notorious former Patriot,
three part documentary series examining what led to the murderous
fall and shocking death of Aaron Hernandez unless every possible

(02:42:00):
Aaron Hernandez documentary has already been made and we just
made that up, all right? Story number three and Tony
o'brown is trying well, I can't get away from Antonio
Brown three's company. Apparently now an Toni Brown wants to
get back in the NFL, but he also wants to
link up with Tom Brady again. And recently, Antonio Brown
liked and commented on an Instagram post by the former

(02:42:24):
Patriot maybe former Patriot one of the former Patriot tight
ends working out, saying, looking swoll, big guy, let's make
this happen. I'm just fring two teaming up getting the
gang back together. All right, we're short on time. So
which of these three stories is not true? And Leslie
and Bradenton Florida. You have the celebrity boxing, you got

(02:42:46):
the Netflix, and the Antonio Brown and wanting to play
with Brady again. It's a I love the plot twist.
Check out the chat. I'll go with number three. Well,
you're a real judge, Jack, so you better get her.
Thank you, John, Jack, Jack. I'm so excited. I'm flustered,

(02:43:08):
all right for clemped is what I am. Should I
even go to Justin or should we because he's gonna
curse and we will have to dump him? And Rob
in Vegas? Rob, what's the answer right, Numero Trains? All right,
thank you for that, hey, Rob, Since you you're so
worried about the bet, why don't you pay off the bet? Uh?

(02:43:30):
Demo Guy, Minnesota, Demo Guy the Twin Cities. What's the
answer here, Demo Guy? One? Two? Or three? Two? Number two?
All right? We don't have time to run down all
the stories. Thank you, Demo Guy and everyone else they
called in. But the fake story number three, the Antonio
Brown trying to team up with Tom Rady, a murder

(02:43:51):
gotta go another former Patriot, and all that stuff fake news.
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