July 4, 2023 • 46 mins
Ben Maller talks shop on the massive interest that the Portland Trailblazers are receiving for Damian Lillard since he requested his trade. Ben also gives his take on Draymond Green's comments on why he does not want to ever try to break the 73-win record again and the Wembanyama rookie year hype. Plus, Ben goes deep into Mike Vick saying that Andy Reid is the greatest coach of all time over Bill Belichick.
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The posturing continues well come in the beginning of another
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as we do the hustle all night long, celebrating the
birthday of America. Of course you think I'm actually here?
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Why would I be here? This is a Fourth of
July extravaganz. I'm much too important after work on the
fourth of July. I recorded this several days ago, and
I am sleeping. The joke is on you. The joke
is on you. But our lead this hour coming from
the Beaver State. Yeah, the Beavers, not the Duck State.
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It's the Beaver State, the state of denial, is it
the state of denial? Well, interesting news there the latest
on these stylings of Dame time You've heard of the
Eastern time zone, the Central time zone, some of you
have heard the Mountain time zone, the Pacific time zone,
and then you have Dame time zone, and we'll focus
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in on that. It is our obligatory Mallard monologue on
the trade talk surrounding Damian Lillard. We will do this.
We will burn this into the ground until Lillard is traded,
and then we will forget about him until the NBA
playoffs come around next April. So that's usually how this works.
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But if you've not heard the latest, maybe you actually
have a life. You were not paying attention obsessing with
the sporting news that has taken place over the last
twenty four hours. Associate might have missed it. But dueling pianos,
Dueling pianos like a good bar with dueling pianos. There.
On the future of the Star Guard, we've learned that
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a four pack a four pack of teams have been
burned dogging the Blazers attempting to work out a transaction
to acquire Lillard. Who are those four teams? Well, if
you believe the scuttle but we believe all rumors. The
scuttle butt says the People's team, the Clippers, the Timwols,
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the Pelicans, that's a funny one. And the Boston Celtics
have all reached out to the Trailblazers and they would
like to go down the Oregon Trail. And they have
asked what is the price? Put a price tag on
the head of Damian Lillard on the auctioning block, and
we would like to get him. Now, that comes on
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the heels I mentioned they were dueling piano reports, So
that comes on the heels of a different report which
goes the other way here on the heels of that
and says that Lillard is hell bent. I love the drama.
He's hell bent on playing only in Miami, Miami, Miami.
Now that's a follow up to previous reports from Lillard's
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posse that have let the insider crowd know that he
really likes South Beach, he really enjoys the wet They're
the palm trees, the beautiful people in bikinis, all of that,
and the rumblings are this is where it gets good
sports talk radio wise, the rumblings are that things could
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get to the you word ugly, that they could get
real ugly if Portland does not pacify the desires of
Damian Lillard. Oh my watch out. So let us discuss
the question, very simple, the Blazers getting a lot of interest,
a lot of interest in Dame Lillard. What does this mean?
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That's the question. So I've got settings app Lady Gaga
and Kansas, and we will combine all of these things
together and we are going to make a trade machine,
which is a lot of fun, not as much fun
as a time machine would be, but we don't have
one of us. We do have a trade machine. So
we've got that now. A on the surface to answer
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the question, the Blazers getting a lot of interest in
Dame load or what does it mean? Well, on the surface,
it means Portland's in the driver's seat. At first glance,
you would say, why not. They have a player that's
got value, and you have here a bunch of teams
that are knocking on the door, ringing the bell saying hey,
let me in, let me in, let him out. So
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they got the product. And it's like anything in sales.
You have a product that is popular, people want, then
the price goes up and that's usually how it works.
But you have a supply shortage of a list players.
Dame Lilard is an a list player, although he's getting
a little long in the tooth. And so the Clippers, Pelicans, Wolves,
and Celtics have all engaged the trade machine and so
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it tilts things in favor of the Blazers. They are
set for a bidding war, allegedly, which would be the
best case scenario in that dimension. That's a wonderful, wonderful thing. However,
the problem is Portland. You say, well, you go to
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the settings app on your phone there and you turn
the notifications off, not on, not on, You turn them off. Now,
why would you do that, because then you make these
teams sweat. You're like, okay, I'm gonna make these teams sweat,
and yeah, I'm gonna up the anthe and oh man,
everyone's been GM, everyone's played GM. Who loves sports, we've
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all done it, and yeah you get more goodies. But
Dame Lillard's value in that scenario would skyrocket, up, up
and away.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Uh, but.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Then you get the bucket of ice water right in
the face, right there in the face with the ice water.
Because it is a players league, as we talked about
in a previous episode of this radio program. You might
have heard it. You probably didn't. Maybe you heard the podcast,
or you heard none of it, or you just listened
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and did not retain anything. Bad job by you. But
dame time. He is the one driving the Volkswagen bus.
And if he has a conniption fit, if he wants
to go that direction and say, hey, I ain't going
there and I ain't going there, well, there's a couple
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things that could happen. Either he's going to show up
and huff and puff and blow the whole house down,
or he's not going to show up, or he'll just
swallow his pride and be fine. But would a team
be willing to trade for a player who raises Holy hell?
If he goes that direction and he wants to play
in Miami and all that stuff under that center. If
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he does say I ain't going there and wherever that is,
whether it's a Clippers, Celtics, these other teams, which I
think is amusing the always optimistic New Orleans Pelicans and
the Minnesota Timberwolves. But the other part of that is
the Blazers would then go from the penthouse to the outhouse.
And I would love to see Lillard play with the
Clippers of the Celtics. I think that would be the
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most fun. That those teams would have to smoke the
wacky Tobacci to decide they want to go down that
direction with the player that doesn't want to play for
their team, and it does work out every so often.
Kevin Garnett did not want to play in Boston. He
now loves Boston and it's the greatest thing that happened
to him when he left the Timberwolves, but he didn't
want to go there. That was a gift by Kevin McHale,
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the old Celtic who helped his old team, the Celtics
from Minnesota side sending Kevin Garnett that direction. Now that said,
the heater is still way ahead. If you were to
look at the graph here, the Miami Heater is still
way ahead in this part of play. Now, turning the page,
some other stuff in the NBA in Philadelphia, page two.
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In Philadelphia, everyone is wondering what the heck is going
on with the beard? Not my beard, not your beard,
the beard? What is going on with James Harden here?
And we've got a bit of a plot twist. The
Sixers are now letting it be known they have not
quote ruled out close quote that James Harden could return
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to the City of Brotherly Love. They are floating that
out here. So the question on this one is the
Sixers floating that they could keep James Harden, who opted
in to opt out next season? Is this realistic? And
survey says yeah, Survey says eh, So we can unscramble this.
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The GM, Daryl Morey and James Harden have had a
long bromance over the years, and there's some separation anxiety.
You could claim that that's the case of separation anxiety.
Now that said my star trek cling on translator ring
that I got years ago tells me on the James
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Harden story that the Sixers have received offers of pocket
lint for James Harden, and they chose they'd rather have
Harden than pocket lint and some loose change. And so
they haven't had any takers that have asked for Harden
that are willing to trade anything that they want, and
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so by leaking, the Harden may stay in Philadelphia. Part
of this, the Sixers are playing Lady Gaga and they've
got their poker face on right now as they play
that game. The Sixers are looking to take a step back.
If you believe the talking points memo that has bounced
around the NBA. Philadelphia's whole plan is to have joellenbeade
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on an island this upcoming season, and then they're going
to have salary cap flexibility to spend a lot of
money on what is supposed to be a big free
agent class next summer. So there's some big ticket players
that they end up getting, the free agency players that
can opt out of their contracts. In the NBA, it
never ends, now, the last word here. So let's move
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on from Philadelphia. We go to Minnesota where Anthony Edwards,
the high flying Timberwolf. Anthony Edwards gets a two hundred
and sixty million dollar max contract max contract for Minnesota
and the early reaction by some who are not insiders
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calling this a quote bargain of a contract, some fans
going as far as to say this is a great
steal for Minnesota to keep Anthony Edwards locked up for
four years and two hundred and sixty million dollars. So
the question is is it really a en quote bargain?
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Is it really a bargain? So I am never going
to say as long as I have a microphone, access
to a microphone, and headphones, the tools of ignorance. I
don't know about you, but I'm never gonna say two
hundred and sixty million dollars is a bargain unless there's
one scenario. The currency in America gets was it venezuela.
Where to buy like a thing of milk? It costs
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you like two hundred million or something like that, because
the you know what I'm talking about the cost of
the money, the value of the money was so weak
they just kept printing money. So we get to that point.
But for that to happen, I would have to get
two hundred and sixty million dollars. I know that two
hundred and sixty million dollars is not a lot of money.
When I'm getting two hundred and sixty million dollars, until then,
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it's a lot of money. But I say that not
a bargain. Delusional fanboy talk to say that that's a
bargain there. And I don't live in the cartoon world.
I know in the NBA everyone's richie rich, and that's great, wonderful,
congratulations Mazeotov, And I have nothing against Aunt. I don't.
Anthony Edwards is a fun player to watch. I'm not
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a Timberwolves. He's very charismatic, he's likable, he's charming, he
says quirky things. He likes fast food. He's in his
early twenties, so he can eat it all the crap
he wants and it doesn't matter, and so good for him, right,
good for him. Knock yourself out at some point that'll
get back to you. But two hundred and sixty million
is again not a bargain. It is a reminder though
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the global economy, the global economy for basketball is a
booming boom maybe boom is the old pacer broadcaster said
back in the day. And the new TV deals which
are really going to become streaming deals. The advertising money
continues to go up, up and away in that regard,
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and so as Dorothy Gale said, I've got a feeling
we're not in Kansas anymore. And the Wizard of Oz,
everyone who's halfway decent in the NBA is walking down
the Yellow Brick Road and what a road it is.
And Anthony Edwards, the third player from the twenty twenty
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COVID draft class to get the max contract. He joins
LaMelo Ball the Big Ball of the Charlotte Hornets, and
Tyrese Haliburton from your Indiana Pacers on the Big Money List.
It is the Ben Malor Show on a fourth of
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than doing sports talk radio in the middle of the
night on the fourth of July. But here we are.
How lucky are we to be united here? And we'll
do it live and so our lead this hour coming
from the spirit animal of Golden State, Draymond Green, has
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been very generous on this birthday for America. Draymond Green
is a chirping and when Draymon shirps, we sometimes listen,
especially in the month of June or July. That is
very good for what we do. So thank you Draymond
for helping us out. Now. If you didn't hear this,
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maybe not Draymond Green talking about a gaggle of topics
during an appearance on the Fledgling podcast p that is
apparently a podcast by Paul George. I wonder if he
takes podcasts off to rest up load management. He can't
do back to back podcast because he might heard a
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vocal coreter. Is not only basketball he can't do. I
don't know. I've never heard the Paul George podcast. Have you?
Probably not anyway, So get to the point, please. So
Draymond Green, who was part of the twenty fifteen twenty
sixteen Golden State team that won an NBA record seventy
three games during the regular season and also lost lost
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in the NBA finals, and he stated, Draymond Green that
he never wants to go through this experience again. That's
what he said, not my words, his words. He says,
if you told me today y'all can win seventy three
games next year and actually close the deal and win
a championship. I may say, no, I'm cool, Green announcing why. Well,
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here's why, Draymond saying, because the price to pay to
actually get through that, I'm not sure it's worth it.
A not sure it is worth it to try to
win all of your games. Okay, that's good attitude. Green
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complained about being thrust into a playoff environment every game
when you're trying to set a record, and he moaned
about the toll that it takes. Oh the toe, what
a oh it is, and on and on and on.
So let us discuss the question on this one. What
do you make of Draymond Green saying that he never
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even wants to attempt chasing the seventy three win record again,
does not want to be part of a team that
does that. So I've got Russian ballet, locomotive, and the law,
and we will combine all of these things together and
we are going to make a nice, nice punching the
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schnas is what we're gonna make. So number one, number one,
Draymond Green. Good news, Draymond, you will not have to
ever worry about being on a team to challenge the
all time wins record as that ship has left the
port and it ain't coming back. But really, what Draymond's
doing here, Draymond is selling apple sauce wash on this one.
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I don't get the logic. Maybe I'm missing something. I'm
not that bright. I do the Overnight show around here.
But Draymond making it seem like the chase to get
the record for regular season wins is similar to a
Greek tragedy. I am I wrong, That's what it sounds like.
Oh the horror, Oh the horror of trying to win
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all of your games. The drama queen is singing, singing, singing.
Now spoiler alert, Draymond Green. We believe in truth and broadcasting.
Draymond Green. The real reason he does not want to
chase the wins record and said that it's too taxing
taxing is because Draymond is the reason that was a failure.
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He was the reason that was a failure, and he
cracked under the pressure. Don't bear the lead on my
own heart. We're not bearing the lead. If you are
old enough to remember that Golden State run when they
won the seventy three games and got to the playoffs
and all that. Draymond Green was the saboteur for the Warriors.
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He turned the postseason into the Russian ballet, a classic
of the ballet get your cod piece out because the
nutcracker that was Draymond Green. And I don't know that
this came up in conversation on the podcast Fee Show.
I'd have to listen for that, but anyway, the point
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is that Draymond Green, for those of us that did
pay attention to though, that Draymond is responsible for the
Warriors gagging congratulations. He was at an A's game with
Marshawn Lynch for Game five of that NBA Finals If
I remember correctly, Golden State was up three to one.
They were one win away from dispatching Lebron and the
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Cadavers in that NBA Finals of twenty sixteens. Raymond, though,
was suspended for Game five because he used his hand
to strike the drunk of Lebron James in Game four.
You might remember that postseason if you're old enough to remember.
He also kicked Steven Adams, who was playing for Oklahoma City.
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The key we Steven Adams kicked him in the Twigg
and Berries There earlier in the postseason. So that was
like his kinky fetish stramon. That was his taboo, hitting
guys in the male and neither regions there and just
going for it. And so Green he was absent from
the Warriors to the latrine, hanging out over there at
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the A's games back when the A's well, nobody went
to A's games then either, but right across the parking
lot back when the Warriors played in Oakland. And then
he the whole I remember the whole plan we were
doing the show here. The plane at the time was
that he'd be at the A's game, the Warriors would
win the championship, and then as soon as the game
Draymon could enter the arena and celebrate with the Warriors.
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Except they never won another game in that NBA Finals,
and that was it. Now page two here, Draymon had
some other things to say. He also discussed the number
one overall pick Victor Wembanyama and said he believes Raymond
Green believes that the projections that have Wembanyama as an
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All Star as a rookie are going to harm him.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I think people are setting him up for failure, like, oh,
he's going to be an All Star next year, Draymond opining.
Then he moaned about how hard it is to be
an All Star, and on and on. So Draymond Green
believes people have set Victor Wembanyama up for failure with
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all the rookie hype, the All Star speculation and all
of that. Do you feel bad for Wemby? Do you
feel bad for Wemby? Draymond says he's being set up
for fail Now, while I have said, and I do
believe that the hype is rat poison, other people have
pointed that out who make more money than me. That
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being said, in this case, I do not agree with
Draymond Green. I think he's dead wrong on this. And
I'll tell you why I disagree with Raymond, because this
could not be a better mitzvah for Victor Wembanyama. And
here's why. Even if this guy goes out there and
can't even dribble a basketball, the only dribbling he does
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is mucus coming out of his nose and dribbling down
his face and going down his chin. If that's the
only dribbling that happens for Victor Wembanyama, it doesn't matter
because of the hype we live in the world now.
It has been this way for a number of years. Well,
you get paid on hype. You don't get paid all
on what you actually do. You get paid on what
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people think you're going to do. In professional sports, I
wish it worked like that in radio. It does not,
But that's the reality of the situation. And so he's
laughing all the way to the bank. He's got the
rookie contract at fifty four million wem Banyama. He's gonna
get one hundred million dollars shoe deal, So that's one
hundred and fifty four million. He's gonna get minimum ten
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million from Fanatics on a sports memorabilia deal, probably a
lot more than that. We're low balling that plus all
of the other fortune five hundred companies that are trying
to get in on the Wemby hype. So you do
the arithmetic on this, and it doesn't matter whether he's
a stiff or not. He is getting paid Wemby based
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on what people think he's going to do. He don't
have to make an All Star team. He could be
in the G League. He can be playing at the
local YMCA down the street. Knock yourself out there at
the why and have a have a fine time. But
you're gonna get paid any either way. It's not guaranteed money.
He is projected to be one of the most commercially
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successful athletes in the history of not just North America,
the world. All right, final point, So Draymond Green also, wait,
there's more. He was singing the praises of an old
Lob City Clipper, Chris Paul selling the impact of Chris
Paul with Golden State, and he thinks Draymond Green said
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that he thinks CP three will aid the development of
Jonathan Kaminga coming. Green is saying that Chris Paul adds
another dimension to the Golden State offense. Okay, and will
quote completely unlock Jonathan Kaminga and his growth. So that's
the money, quote completely unlocked, Draymond Green saying Chris Paul
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will completely unlock his teammate Jonathan Kaminga. Is it really
that simple? No? No, I don't buy this either. I'm
not in agreement. I'm sorry, not sorry. CP three. The
only way that scenario works is where you go into
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some kind of time portal and you go back in time.
Chris Paul is past the expiration date on dominance. He
was washed up in Arizona, he will be washed up
in San Francisco. I do not believe he will find
the garden of Eden in San Francisco. And I don't
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think Ponce de Leone will be leaving Florida to go
to northern California to help him out. He's a shell
of what he had been. And Draymond is also forgetting
the law. And what is the law? The law of
unintended consequences? Where if Chris Paul were to truly be
in position to unlock Jonathan Kaminga, what would have hapen
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to happen? What would have to happen. I'll tell you
it would mean that he would have to be a
ball hog. He would have to control the ball CP three,
which then means the trickle down effect is that Steph
Curry is no longer controlling the basketball, which changes the
entire dynamic on how the Warriors had played basketball for
the better part of a decade now in Northern California.
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And so you'd bump Steph Curry down so Chris Paul
could get a lot of the control of the offense
to unlock completely Jonathan kaminga and that would be something
that many people will be doing today, playing with firecrackers.
But you're not supposed to do that, right They always
tell you, oh, don't play with the firecrackers. It is
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on the fourth of July at a time when most
people are not awake, but our lead this hour coming
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from the NFL. We are two weeks away from the
start of training camp, and that means we're two weeks
away from players start falling apart, they start self imploding
on the field there, and the injuries start piling up
and all that. But shortly after that the exhibition games
will begin in the NFL. Then more players will get hurt,
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and the beat goes on and on and on. Before
we can blink, it'll be real football in early September
in the NFL. With that being in the near future,
in the present, which is not the near future, it's
the present, which is going right now. We've got Michael Vick.
Remember him. Maybe you don't remember Michael Vick. It's been
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a while since he played in the NFL. He's a
notorious figure in pro football. Well, Michael Vick has made
some comments that popped up on our sonar and if
you didn't hear what he had to say, maybe not.
He's filming the Content Kitty on the fourth of July
and we thank him for that. Michael Vick has declared
that Chiefs coach Andy Reid big Red, he says, might
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be the greatest of all time, passing Bill Belichick by
holy blasphemy, Batman. Now that's a hot take now. Michael
Vick's comments coming during a interview he did on the
Tyreek Hill podcast. Even Tyreek Hill's got a podcast? Does
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he give tips on how to slap people that work
at boats? Is that on his podcast? I don't know.
I'd have to listen to find out what's on the
podcast anyway. So Tyreek Kills apparently got a podcast at
why because everyone's got one, even I have one? And
his fledgling podcast and Vic praised Andy Reid and his
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coaching acumen and consistently consistency as a coach throughout his career.
Vic played under Andy Reid in Philadelphia. He said he
might be the greatest coach of all time. You don't
have to win as many championships to be considered According
to vic Now, Vick acknowledged the dominance of Tom Brady
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and Bill Belichick together. He also pointed out that Andy
Reid was able to have success in Philadelphia and also
in Kansas City, whereas Bill Belichick only tasted success with
the Patriots and once Tom Brady's skidada off to hang
out with Ponce Deelli Owen in Florida. That was all
she wrote for the success of Bill Belichick. That's what
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That's what they said. I don't know. His argument for
Andy Reid is that big redhead multiple quarterbacks that he
succeeded with, while Belichick has only succeeded with one quarterback
in Tom Brady. So let us discuss. Let us discuss
Michael Vick saying that Andy Reid might be the greatest
coach of all time over Bill Belichick. Are you with
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him on this? Are you in or out on this?
So I am out on this. I'm not in with
Michael Vick on this particular take. I've got ven Diagram,
Janet Jackson, and Iceberg, and we will combine all of
these things together and we are going to make a
nice puppy farm, which I'm sure Michael Vick knows a
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thing or two about puppies. All right, so first of all,
we'll kick off with is Michael Vick used weasel terminology?
Might be right? I might be the greatest talk showst
of all time. I'm not, but I might be if
you listen to no one else. I am the greatest
talk show host of all time. I do appreciate Michael
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Vick for his fresh take, So thank you Michael for that.
He is what's known in the legal system as a
compromised witness. Methinks he's a wee bit too close to
the situation. Michael Vick does admit he has bias. That
Andy Reid was the coach that helped rehabilitate Michael Vick
after he returned from Levenworth Penitentiary in Kansas. And if
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you were listening to this show when Michael Vick was
in prison, you might remember that he had We had
a listener from Chicago named Doc Mike, who was convinced
that Michael Vick needed to see Doc. So Doc drove
from Chicago to Levenworth, Kansas and sat outside the prison
(35:56):
trying to get a meeting with Michael Vick. He called
our show every night. It's spent about a week if
I remember correctly, in Kansas. Shockingly, Michael Vick did not
want to meet with him. I don't know why. I
have no idea. That's why the best decision Michael Vick
ever made. But so Andy Reid listening. The point is this,
Andy Reid and Michael Vick have a kinship. There's a
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bond there and side by side. Though Andy Reid and
Bill Belichick are really in similar screenplays, and let me
explain why. And he so well and he reads a
better coach overall because he's had continued competitive football teams
with the rare and appropriate off year, where Belichick has
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not been able to do that. But when you look
at the ven diagram, they're parallel stories. But they're not
lineal linear stories. They're parallel, they're not linear. So what
I mean by that there's dramatic irony in the fact
that each of them has won Super Bowls, Belichick and
Andy Reid with generational quarterbacks. Andy Reid. I'm old enough
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to remember when Andy Reid was compared to coaches like
Dan Reeves and Marv Levy and even Jeff Fisher, coaches
that had gotten to the Super Bowl, not won the
Super Bowl had good teams quite a bit, had competitive teams,
and they did not win. It was not until a
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confab between Mahomes and Andy Reid that Andy found casa blanca.
And it was only after that and similar you could
make the same argument. This is how these are the
irony of the ven diagram. And when you look at
Belichick with Tom Brady, Belichick had a mediocre record in Cleveland.
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His argument was the Browns owner at the time, this
evil guy, Art Modell, was moving the team to Baltimore,
and so he was undermined by ownership. And maybe that's true,
maybe it's not. But Bill Belichick has a losing record
in his career in games started by anyone other than
Tom Brady. In fact, he's nine games under five hundred
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since Brady left the Patriots. The Patriots are a five
hundred team now, regardless of that. Remember, Andy Reid also
was mocked and ridiculed as a guy who couldn't get
over the hump, and it wasn't until Patrick Mahomes came
along that that changed. Now, furthermore, we're gonna move away
from Andy Reid here because there's other stuff that caught
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my attention in the NFL and the Super Bowl back
in February in the Valley of the Sun. Still has
some legs here players from the Chiefs and the Eagles.
He might remember, they criticize the playing surface. They did
not appreciate the field, which was a slipping slide. They
wanted actual traction on the field. How dare them? And
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so this is a story back in February. Here we
are in July. It's America's birthday, July fourth. Why are
we talking about this right now? So I me explain.
So they complained about Super Bowl fifty seven the field.
Now we're told the NFL has decided they know the
reason that the field was a slipping slide, and they've
placed the blame on the players for not wearing the
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right shoes. That the players did not wear the right shoes. Now,
keep in mind some players on the Eagles and the
Chiefs talked about how they changed shoes. In fact, some
players on the Eagles even said that, and I think
this was well publicized. We talked about it. They changed
cleats a lot of the players at halftime because they
were not doing particularly well with the footing at the
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Super Bowl. And also you've got the sod Father. My
favorite part of this little chapter in NFL history is
George Toma, at age ninety four, who came out like
a buzzsaw and ripped the NFL's current field director, Ed
Mangen I believe is the guy's name. And George Toma
(40:00):
said that the NFL did not allow the field to
dry enough outside after it was last watered. He blamed that.
He also said the field was sanded two weeks too late.
According to George Toma, who had been involved in every
Super Bowl overseeing that now he's too old and now
(40:20):
that he's ripped the NFL, he'll never be invited back,
because you don't cross the Godfather, Roger Goodell. Even though
you are the Sodfather, you can't mess with the godfather
of the NFL. And so the NFL, though, said, ultimately
the field passed inspection and they deemed it good enough
(40:40):
to play. So why did the NFL now come out
on this random July day and blame the Chiefs and
the Eagle players for slipping at the Super Bowl, saying
it was their problem. So it's like Janet Jackson, that's
the way love goes, right, It's a wardrobe malfunction, the
most famous nip slip in the history of the world.
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There Janet Jackson back in the day there and the
NFL blaming the wardrobe malfunction, and it's no accountability Park Avenue.
I wandered past the NFL offices there in Manhattan when
I was there last week, and there's no accountability and
they're serving up alphabet soup. It's kind of like boxing.
But the NFL they like the CYA and the PTB
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as in cover your ass and past the blame. That's
what they like. Remember, NFL films even showed the production
arm of the NFL showed the coaches officials of the
NFL complaining about the footing players during the game, and
the NFL say, no, no, it's your fault. You screwed up.
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Bad job by you. All right, last and final thing here,
we are light years away from the twenty twenty four
NFL Draft. We are far far away from that. But
it's never too early to get in on the buzz.
And there's theres already some buzz for this. We have
to get through the college football season, the NFL season
and all that. But I was reading a report because
I got no life and the report said that one
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NFL general manager claims Marvin Harrison Junior from the Ohio
State University the Buckeyes dot the I that Marvin Harrison
Junior could that's a weasel word, could wind up being
the first player drafted in twenty twenty four. That's kind
of a big deal. The GM said. We haven't had
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a wide receiver drafted first overall since Keishawn but Harrison
could push that even in a draft with Caleb Williams,
the University of Southern California quarterback. Now, the general manager
did not sign his name, did not sign his name
to this. So the question Marvin Harrison Junior being hyped
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up as a possible number one overall pick ahead of
Caleb Williams from the Men of Troy in the twenty
twenty five for NFL draft, So does that make any sense? Yes,
it makes nonsense, is what it makes. That's the sense
that it makes nonsense. So I'm shaking my head no
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on this one. It has been twenty seven years, that's
a generation since the NFL had a wide receiver go
number one overall. That was Keishawan Johnson. And the only
way Caleb Williams is not the number one pick in
the NFL draft is if he hits an iceberg and
sinks to the bottom of the ocean like the Titanic, Right,
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that's the only way people forget the reason that Kishan
Johnson was the number one pick. There were no quarterbacks
in that jeft. You know who the first quarterback drafted was, No,
you don't, because you're a loser if you know that.
And I looked it up, and I didn't know it either.
In nineteen ninety six, when Kishan was drafted number one
by the Jets, the first quarterback picked was a guy
(43:59):
named Tony Banks. He needed the government to bail him out.
He was drafted by the Saint Louis Rams in the
second round. There were no quarterbacks picked in the first round.
And I will garon f and tu if there had
been one halfway decent quarterback that was greater a first
round pick, Kie Shawn Johnson would not have been drafted
number one overall. And and so that's just that's the
(44:21):
reality of the situation. And so this guy, Caleb Williams,
NFL marketing's hyping him up. He's Patrick Mahomes two point zero.
Of course, the NFL didn't even know that Patrick Maholmes
was gonna be that good. That's why he was not
drafted as the first of the second quarterback in that draft.
And when he was drafted by Kansas City, people like,
oh wait, what are they doing and what is it?
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That's a reach by Andy Reid and all that. Well,
it didn't work out that way, And I would say
there's a better chance of Marvin Harrison not being drafted
number two than being drafted number one, because Caleb Williams
gonna be number one unless he gets hurt or arrested
or you know, sinks to the bottom of the ocean.
And then you've got some other couruarterbacks that are fringe
first round quarterbacks if you look at the projections, like
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Drake May of North Carolina and Quinn Ewers or Oers
of Texas. So those are some other quarterbacks. It is
The Bane Mather Show as we continue on. If you
want to be part of this eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox, and it's a big day. My favorite
sporting event of the year is going to go on today.
Joey Chestnut, who's going to set a new record. He's
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getting old though. Interview Joey. Last year, Joey chest Nutt,
he talked about the aging process and he's trying to
he's trying to kick back on Father Time, right, trying
to push back on that and continue his dominance there
as he is the all time goat of eating, the
greatest eater that ever lived. And that will be going
on today and I'll actually have him on the podcast
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this weekend. I know Joey's excited about that. He's actually
more excited Joey chest Nutt about being on the Fifth
Hour podcast with me than he is in the Nathan's
Hot Dog Contest there on Coney Island, just down the
street from Marcel in Brooklyn. Eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox. Also the nickname Game. Now, there have been
some great players with nicknames in the NFL, but we
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got one to add this. I hope this guy's a star.
He's not in the NFL yet, but this guy's got
one of the great nicknames of all time. We'll get
to that. We will do it next
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The posturing continues well come in the beginning of another
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Why would I be here? This is a Fourth of
July extravaganz. I'm much too important after work on the
fourth of July. I recorded this several days ago, and
I am sleeping. The joke is on you. The joke
is on you. But our lead this hour coming from
the Beaver State. Yeah, the Beavers, not the Duck State.
(01:39):
It's the Beaver State, the state of denial, is it
the state of denial? Well, interesting news there the latest
on these stylings of Dame time You've heard of the
Eastern time zone, the Central time zone, some of you
have heard the Mountain time zone, the Pacific time zone,
and then you have Dame time zone, and we'll focus
(02:02):
in on that. It is our obligatory Mallard monologue on
the trade talk surrounding Damian Lillard. We will do this.
We will burn this into the ground until Lillard is traded,
and then we will forget about him until the NBA
playoffs come around next April. So that's usually how this works.
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But if you've not heard the latest, maybe you actually
have a life. You were not paying attention obsessing with
the sporting news that has taken place over the last
twenty four hours. Associate might have missed it. But dueling pianos,
Dueling pianos like a good bar with dueling pianos. There.
On the future of the Star Guard, we've learned that
(02:44):
a four pack a four pack of teams have been
burned dogging the Blazers attempting to work out a transaction
to acquire Lillard. Who are those four teams? Well, if
you believe the scuttle but we believe all rumors. The
scuttle butt says the People's team, the Clippers, the Timwols,
(03:07):
the Pelicans, that's a funny one. And the Boston Celtics
have all reached out to the Trailblazers and they would
like to go down the Oregon Trail. And they have
asked what is the price? Put a price tag on
the head of Damian Lillard on the auctioning block, and
we would like to get him. Now, that comes on
(03:28):
the heels I mentioned they were dueling piano reports, So
that comes on the heels of a different report which
goes the other way here on the heels of that
and says that Lillard is hell bent. I love the drama.
He's hell bent on playing only in Miami, Miami, Miami.
Now that's a follow up to previous reports from Lillard's
(03:52):
posse that have let the insider crowd know that he
really likes South Beach, he really enjoys the wet They're
the palm trees, the beautiful people in bikinis, all of that,
and the rumblings are this is where it gets good
sports talk radio wise, the rumblings are that things could
(04:12):
get to the you word ugly, that they could get
real ugly if Portland does not pacify the desires of
Damian Lillard. Oh my watch out. So let us discuss
the question, very simple, the Blazers getting a lot of interest,
a lot of interest in Dame Lillard. What does this mean?
(04:36):
That's the question. So I've got settings app Lady Gaga
and Kansas, and we will combine all of these things
together and we are going to make a trade machine,
which is a lot of fun, not as much fun
as a time machine would be, but we don't have
one of us. We do have a trade machine. So
we've got that now. A on the surface to answer
(05:00):
the question, the Blazers getting a lot of interest in
Dame load or what does it mean? Well, on the surface,
it means Portland's in the driver's seat. At first glance,
you would say, why not. They have a player that's
got value, and you have here a bunch of teams
that are knocking on the door, ringing the bell saying hey,
let me in, let me in, let him out. So
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they got the product. And it's like anything in sales.
You have a product that is popular, people want, then
the price goes up and that's usually how it works.
But you have a supply shortage of a list players.
Dame Lilard is an a list player, although he's getting
a little long in the tooth. And so the Clippers, Pelicans, Wolves,
and Celtics have all engaged the trade machine and so
(05:45):
it tilts things in favor of the Blazers. They are
set for a bidding war, allegedly, which would be the
best case scenario in that dimension. That's a wonderful, wonderful thing. However,
the problem is Portland. You say, well, you go to
(06:07):
the settings app on your phone there and you turn
the notifications off, not on, not on, You turn them off. Now,
why would you do that, because then you make these
teams sweat. You're like, okay, I'm gonna make these teams sweat,
and yeah, I'm gonna up the anthe and oh man,
everyone's been GM, everyone's played GM. Who loves sports, we've
(06:30):
all done it, and yeah you get more goodies. But
Dame Lillard's value in that scenario would skyrocket, up, up
and away.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Uh, but.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Then you get the bucket of ice water right in
the face, right there in the face with the ice water.
Because it is a players league, as we talked about
in a previous episode of this radio program. You might
have heard it. You probably didn't. Maybe you heard the podcast,
or you heard none of it, or you just listened
(07:05):
and did not retain anything. Bad job by you. But
dame time. He is the one driving the Volkswagen bus.
And if he has a conniption fit, if he wants
to go that direction and say, hey, I ain't going
there and I ain't going there, well, there's a couple
(07:25):
things that could happen. Either he's going to show up
and huff and puff and blow the whole house down,
or he's not going to show up, or he'll just
swallow his pride and be fine. But would a team
be willing to trade for a player who raises Holy hell?
If he goes that direction and he wants to play
in Miami and all that stuff under that center. If
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he does say I ain't going there and wherever that is,
whether it's a Clippers, Celtics, these other teams, which I
think is amusing the always optimistic New Orleans Pelicans and
the Minnesota Timberwolves. But the other part of that is
the Blazers would then go from the penthouse to the outhouse.
And I would love to see Lillard play with the
Clippers of the Celtics. I think that would be the
(08:10):
most fun. That those teams would have to smoke the
wacky Tobacci to decide they want to go down that
direction with the player that doesn't want to play for
their team, and it does work out every so often.
Kevin Garnett did not want to play in Boston. He
now loves Boston and it's the greatest thing that happened
to him when he left the Timberwolves, but he didn't
want to go there. That was a gift by Kevin McHale,
(08:32):
the old Celtic who helped his old team, the Celtics
from Minnesota side sending Kevin Garnett that direction. Now that said,
the heater is still way ahead. If you were to
look at the graph here, the Miami Heater is still
way ahead in this part of play. Now, turning the page,
some other stuff in the NBA in Philadelphia, page two.
(08:54):
In Philadelphia, everyone is wondering what the heck is going
on with the beard? Not my beard, not your beard,
the beard? What is going on with James Harden here?
And we've got a bit of a plot twist. The
Sixers are now letting it be known they have not
quote ruled out close quote that James Harden could return
(09:18):
to the City of Brotherly Love. They are floating that
out here. So the question on this one is the
Sixers floating that they could keep James Harden, who opted
in to opt out next season? Is this realistic? And
survey says yeah, Survey says eh, So we can unscramble this.
(09:44):
The GM, Daryl Morey and James Harden have had a
long bromance over the years, and there's some separation anxiety.
You could claim that that's the case of separation anxiety.
Now that said my star trek cling on translator ring
that I got years ago tells me on the James
(10:06):
Harden story that the Sixers have received offers of pocket
lint for James Harden, and they chose they'd rather have
Harden than pocket lint and some loose change. And so
they haven't had any takers that have asked for Harden
that are willing to trade anything that they want, and
(10:27):
so by leaking, the Harden may stay in Philadelphia. Part
of this, the Sixers are playing Lady Gaga and they've
got their poker face on right now as they play
that game. The Sixers are looking to take a step back.
If you believe the talking points memo that has bounced
around the NBA. Philadelphia's whole plan is to have joellenbeade
(10:52):
on an island this upcoming season, and then they're going
to have salary cap flexibility to spend a lot of
money on what is supposed to be a big free
agent class next summer. So there's some big ticket players
that they end up getting, the free agency players that
can opt out of their contracts. In the NBA, it
never ends, now, the last word here. So let's move
(11:13):
on from Philadelphia. We go to Minnesota where Anthony Edwards,
the high flying Timberwolf. Anthony Edwards gets a two hundred
and sixty million dollar max contract max contract for Minnesota
and the early reaction by some who are not insiders
(11:35):
calling this a quote bargain of a contract, some fans
going as far as to say this is a great
steal for Minnesota to keep Anthony Edwards locked up for
four years and two hundred and sixty million dollars. So
the question is is it really a en quote bargain?
(11:56):
Is it really a bargain? So I am never going
to say as long as I have a microphone, access
to a microphone, and headphones, the tools of ignorance. I
don't know about you, but I'm never gonna say two
hundred and sixty million dollars is a bargain unless there's
one scenario. The currency in America gets was it venezuela.
Where to buy like a thing of milk? It costs
(12:18):
you like two hundred million or something like that, because
the you know what I'm talking about the cost of
the money, the value of the money was so weak
they just kept printing money. So we get to that point.
But for that to happen, I would have to get
two hundred and sixty million dollars. I know that two
hundred and sixty million dollars is not a lot of money.
When I'm getting two hundred and sixty million dollars, until then,
(12:38):
it's a lot of money. But I say that not
a bargain. Delusional fanboy talk to say that that's a
bargain there. And I don't live in the cartoon world.
I know in the NBA everyone's richie rich, and that's great, wonderful,
congratulations Mazeotov, And I have nothing against Aunt. I don't.
Anthony Edwards is a fun player to watch. I'm not
(12:59):
a Timberwolves. He's very charismatic, he's likable, he's charming, he
says quirky things. He likes fast food. He's in his
early twenties, so he can eat it all the crap
he wants and it doesn't matter, and so good for him, right,
good for him. Knock yourself out at some point that'll
get back to you. But two hundred and sixty million
is again not a bargain. It is a reminder though
(13:23):
the global economy, the global economy for basketball is a
booming boom maybe boom is the old pacer broadcaster said
back in the day. And the new TV deals which
are really going to become streaming deals. The advertising money
continues to go up, up and away in that regard,
(13:43):
and so as Dorothy Gale said, I've got a feeling
we're not in Kansas anymore. And the Wizard of Oz,
everyone who's halfway decent in the NBA is walking down
the Yellow Brick Road and what a road it is.
And Anthony Edwards, the third player from the twenty twenty
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COVID draft class to get the max contract. He joins
LaMelo Ball the Big Ball of the Charlotte Hornets, and
Tyrese Haliburton from your Indiana Pacers on the Big Money List.
It is the Ben Malor Show on a fourth of
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holiday shows over the years, and one thing I have
noticed is that there's a lot of fellas I'd say women,
but no women call the show. There's a lot of
dudes that get completely hammered on July third. They're like
pregaming for July fourth, and for some reason, like a
moth to a flame, they love calling into the show.
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But who knows, maybe no one will call it eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That's eight seven seven
nine nine six six three six nine. You gotta do
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Just in time for the Baseball All Star Game. We'll
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How lucky are we to be united here? And we'll
do it live and so our lead this hour coming
from the spirit animal of Golden State, Draymond Green, has
(17:51):
been very generous on this birthday for America. Draymond Green
is a chirping and when Draymon shirps, we sometimes listen,
especially in the month of June or July. That is
very good for what we do. So thank you Draymond
for helping us out. Now. If you didn't hear this,
(18:13):
maybe not Draymond Green talking about a gaggle of topics
during an appearance on the Fledgling podcast p that is
apparently a podcast by Paul George. I wonder if he
takes podcasts off to rest up load management. He can't
do back to back podcast because he might heard a
(18:34):
vocal coreter. Is not only basketball he can't do. I
don't know. I've never heard the Paul George podcast. Have you?
Probably not anyway, So get to the point, please. So
Draymond Green, who was part of the twenty fifteen twenty
sixteen Golden State team that won an NBA record seventy
three games during the regular season and also lost lost
(19:01):
in the NBA finals, and he stated, Draymond Green that
he never wants to go through this experience again. That's
what he said, not my words, his words. He says,
if you told me today y'all can win seventy three
games next year and actually close the deal and win
a championship. I may say, no, I'm cool, Green announcing why. Well,
(19:27):
here's why, Draymond saying, because the price to pay to
actually get through that, I'm not sure it's worth it.
A not sure it is worth it to try to
win all of your games. Okay, that's good attitude. Green
(19:48):
complained about being thrust into a playoff environment every game
when you're trying to set a record, and he moaned
about the toll that it takes. Oh the toe, what
a oh it is, and on and on and on.
So let us discuss the question on this one. What
do you make of Draymond Green saying that he never
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even wants to attempt chasing the seventy three win record again,
does not want to be part of a team that
does that. So I've got Russian ballet, locomotive, and the law,
and we will combine all of these things together and
we are going to make a nice, nice punching the
(20:35):
schnas is what we're gonna make. So number one, number one,
Draymond Green. Good news, Draymond, you will not have to
ever worry about being on a team to challenge the
all time wins record as that ship has left the
port and it ain't coming back. But really, what Draymond's
doing here, Draymond is selling apple sauce wash on this one.
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I don't get the logic. Maybe I'm missing something. I'm
not that bright. I do the Overnight show around here.
But Draymond making it seem like the chase to get
the record for regular season wins is similar to a
Greek tragedy. I am I wrong, That's what it sounds like.
Oh the horror, Oh the horror of trying to win
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all of your games. The drama queen is singing, singing, singing.
Now spoiler alert, Draymond Green. We believe in truth and broadcasting.
Draymond Green. The real reason he does not want to
chase the wins record and said that it's too taxing
taxing is because Draymond is the reason that was a failure.
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He was the reason that was a failure, and he
cracked under the pressure. Don't bear the lead on my
own heart. We're not bearing the lead. If you are
old enough to remember that Golden State run when they
won the seventy three games and got to the playoffs
and all that. Draymond Green was the saboteur for the Warriors.
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He turned the postseason into the Russian ballet, a classic
of the ballet get your cod piece out because the
nutcracker that was Draymond Green. And I don't know that
this came up in conversation on the podcast Fee Show.
I'd have to listen for that, but anyway, the point
(22:32):
is that Draymond Green, for those of us that did
pay attention to though, that Draymond is responsible for the
Warriors gagging congratulations. He was at an A's game with
Marshawn Lynch for Game five of that NBA Finals If
I remember correctly, Golden State was up three to one.
They were one win away from dispatching Lebron and the
(22:53):
Cadavers in that NBA Finals of twenty sixteens. Raymond, though,
was suspended for Game five because he used his hand
to strike the drunk of Lebron James in Game four.
You might remember that postseason if you're old enough to remember.
He also kicked Steven Adams, who was playing for Oklahoma City.
(23:17):
The key we Steven Adams kicked him in the Twigg
and Berries There earlier in the postseason. So that was
like his kinky fetish stramon. That was his taboo, hitting
guys in the male and neither regions there and just
going for it. And so Green he was absent from
the Warriors to the latrine, hanging out over there at
(23:40):
the A's games back when the A's well, nobody went
to A's games then either, but right across the parking
lot back when the Warriors played in Oakland. And then
he the whole I remember the whole plan we were
doing the show here. The plane at the time was
that he'd be at the A's game, the Warriors would
win the championship, and then as soon as the game
Draymon could enter the arena and celebrate with the Warriors.
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Except they never won another game in that NBA Finals,
and that was it. Now page two here, Draymon had
some other things to say. He also discussed the number
one overall pick Victor Wembanyama and said he believes Raymond
Green believes that the projections that have Wembanyama as an
(24:26):
All Star as a rookie are going to harm him.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I think people are setting him up for failure, like, oh,
he's going to be an All Star next year, Draymond opining.
Then he moaned about how hard it is to be
an All Star, and on and on. So Draymond Green
believes people have set Victor Wembanyama up for failure with
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all the rookie hype, the All Star speculation and all
of that. Do you feel bad for Wemby? Do you
feel bad for Wemby? Draymond says he's being set up
for fail Now, while I have said, and I do
believe that the hype is rat poison, other people have
pointed that out who make more money than me. That
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being said, in this case, I do not agree with
Draymond Green. I think he's dead wrong on this. And
I'll tell you why I disagree with Raymond, because this
could not be a better mitzvah for Victor Wembanyama. And
here's why. Even if this guy goes out there and
can't even dribble a basketball, the only dribbling he does
(25:38):
is mucus coming out of his nose and dribbling down
his face and going down his chin. If that's the
only dribbling that happens for Victor Wembanyama, it doesn't matter
because of the hype we live in the world now.
It has been this way for a number of years. Well,
you get paid on hype. You don't get paid all
on what you actually do. You get paid on what
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people think you're going to do. In professional sports, I
wish it worked like that in radio. It does not,
But that's the reality of the situation. And so he's
laughing all the way to the bank. He's got the
rookie contract at fifty four million wem Banyama. He's gonna
get one hundred million dollars shoe deal, So that's one
hundred and fifty four million. He's gonna get minimum ten
(26:23):
million from Fanatics on a sports memorabilia deal, probably a
lot more than that. We're low balling that plus all
of the other fortune five hundred companies that are trying
to get in on the Wemby hype. So you do
the arithmetic on this, and it doesn't matter whether he's
a stiff or not. He is getting paid Wemby based
(26:45):
on what people think he's going to do. He don't
have to make an All Star team. He could be
in the G League. He can be playing at the
local YMCA down the street. Knock yourself out there at
the why and have a have a fine time. But
you're gonna get paid any either way. It's not guaranteed money.
He is projected to be one of the most commercially
(27:06):
successful athletes in the history of not just North America,
the world. All right, final point, So Draymond Green also, wait,
there's more. He was singing the praises of an old
Lob City Clipper, Chris Paul selling the impact of Chris
Paul with Golden State, and he thinks Draymond Green said
(27:29):
that he thinks CP three will aid the development of
Jonathan Kaminga coming. Green is saying that Chris Paul adds
another dimension to the Golden State offense. Okay, and will
quote completely unlock Jonathan Kaminga and his growth. So that's
the money, quote completely unlocked, Draymond Green saying Chris Paul
(27:53):
will completely unlock his teammate Jonathan Kaminga. Is it really
that simple? No? No, I don't buy this either. I'm
not in agreement. I'm sorry, not sorry. CP three. The
only way that scenario works is where you go into
(28:17):
some kind of time portal and you go back in time.
Chris Paul is past the expiration date on dominance. He
was washed up in Arizona, he will be washed up
in San Francisco. I do not believe he will find
the garden of Eden in San Francisco. And I don't
(28:39):
think Ponce de Leone will be leaving Florida to go
to northern California to help him out. He's a shell
of what he had been. And Draymond is also forgetting
the law. And what is the law? The law of
unintended consequences? Where if Chris Paul were to truly be
in position to unlock Jonathan Kaminga, what would have hapen
(29:00):
to happen? What would have to happen. I'll tell you
it would mean that he would have to be a
ball hog. He would have to control the ball CP three,
which then means the trickle down effect is that Steph
Curry is no longer controlling the basketball, which changes the
entire dynamic on how the Warriors had played basketball for
the better part of a decade now in Northern California.
(29:23):
And so you'd bump Steph Curry down so Chris Paul
could get a lot of the control of the offense
to unlock completely Jonathan kaminga and that would be something
that many people will be doing today, playing with firecrackers.
But you're not supposed to do that, right They always
tell you, oh, don't play with the firecrackers. It is
the Ban Mallor Show. As we continue, if you'd like
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to be part eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
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We've got all expenses paid and the Nerd Workout Warrior,
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on the fourth of July at a time when most
people are not awake, but our lead this hour coming
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from the NFL. We are two weeks away from the
start of training camp, and that means we're two weeks
away from players start falling apart, they start self imploding
on the field there, and the injuries start piling up
and all that. But shortly after that the exhibition games
will begin in the NFL. Then more players will get hurt,
(31:40):
and the beat goes on and on and on. Before
we can blink, it'll be real football in early September
in the NFL. With that being in the near future,
in the present, which is not the near future, it's
the present, which is going right now. We've got Michael Vick.
Remember him. Maybe you don't remember Michael Vick. It's been
(32:03):
a while since he played in the NFL. He's a
notorious figure in pro football. Well, Michael Vick has made
some comments that popped up on our sonar and if
you didn't hear what he had to say, maybe not.
He's filming the Content Kitty on the fourth of July
and we thank him for that. Michael Vick has declared
that Chiefs coach Andy Reid big Red, he says, might
(32:28):
be the greatest of all time, passing Bill Belichick by
holy blasphemy, Batman. Now that's a hot take now. Michael
Vick's comments coming during a interview he did on the
Tyreek Hill podcast. Even Tyreek Hill's got a podcast? Does
(32:50):
he give tips on how to slap people that work
at boats? Is that on his podcast? I don't know.
I'd have to listen to find out what's on the
podcast anyway. So Tyreek Kills apparently got a podcast at
why because everyone's got one, even I have one? And
his fledgling podcast and Vic praised Andy Reid and his
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coaching acumen and consistently consistency as a coach throughout his career.
Vic played under Andy Reid in Philadelphia. He said he
might be the greatest coach of all time. You don't
have to win as many championships to be considered According
to vic Now, Vick acknowledged the dominance of Tom Brady
(33:35):
and Bill Belichick together. He also pointed out that Andy
Reid was able to have success in Philadelphia and also
in Kansas City, whereas Bill Belichick only tasted success with
the Patriots and once Tom Brady's skidada off to hang
out with Ponce Deelli Owen in Florida. That was all
she wrote for the success of Bill Belichick. That's what
(34:01):
That's what they said. I don't know. His argument for
Andy Reid is that big redhead multiple quarterbacks that he
succeeded with, while Belichick has only succeeded with one quarterback
in Tom Brady. So let us discuss. Let us discuss
Michael Vick saying that Andy Reid might be the greatest
coach of all time over Bill Belichick. Are you with
(34:23):
him on this? Are you in or out on this?
So I am out on this. I'm not in with
Michael Vick on this particular take. I've got ven Diagram,
Janet Jackson, and Iceberg, and we will combine all of
these things together and we are going to make a
nice puppy farm, which I'm sure Michael Vick knows a
(34:44):
thing or two about puppies. All right, so first of all,
we'll kick off with is Michael Vick used weasel terminology?
Might be right? I might be the greatest talk showst
of all time. I'm not, but I might be if
you listen to no one else. I am the greatest
talk show host of all time. I do appreciate Michael
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Vick for his fresh take, So thank you Michael for that.
He is what's known in the legal system as a
compromised witness. Methinks he's a wee bit too close to
the situation. Michael Vick does admit he has bias. That
Andy Reid was the coach that helped rehabilitate Michael Vick
after he returned from Levenworth Penitentiary in Kansas. And if
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you were listening to this show when Michael Vick was
in prison, you might remember that he had We had
a listener from Chicago named Doc Mike, who was convinced
that Michael Vick needed to see Doc. So Doc drove
from Chicago to Levenworth, Kansas and sat outside the prison
(35:56):
trying to get a meeting with Michael Vick. He called
our show every night. It's spent about a week if
I remember correctly, in Kansas. Shockingly, Michael Vick did not
want to meet with him. I don't know why. I
have no idea. That's why the best decision Michael Vick
ever made. But so Andy Reid listening. The point is this,
Andy Reid and Michael Vick have a kinship. There's a
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bond there and side by side. Though Andy Reid and
Bill Belichick are really in similar screenplays, and let me
explain why. And he so well and he reads a
better coach overall because he's had continued competitive football teams
with the rare and appropriate off year, where Belichick has
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not been able to do that. But when you look
at the ven diagram, they're parallel stories. But they're not
lineal linear stories. They're parallel, they're not linear. So what
I mean by that there's dramatic irony in the fact
that each of them has won Super Bowls, Belichick and
Andy Reid with generational quarterbacks. Andy Reid. I'm old enough
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to remember when Andy Reid was compared to coaches like
Dan Reeves and Marv Levy and even Jeff Fisher, coaches
that had gotten to the Super Bowl, not won the
Super Bowl had good teams quite a bit, had competitive teams,
and they did not win. It was not until a
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confab between Mahomes and Andy Reid that Andy found casa blanca.
And it was only after that and similar you could
make the same argument. This is how these are the
irony of the ven diagram. And when you look at
Belichick with Tom Brady, Belichick had a mediocre record in Cleveland.
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His argument was the Browns owner at the time, this
evil guy, Art Modell, was moving the team to Baltimore,
and so he was undermined by ownership. And maybe that's true,
maybe it's not. But Bill Belichick has a losing record
in his career in games started by anyone other than
Tom Brady. In fact, he's nine games under five hundred
(38:06):
since Brady left the Patriots. The Patriots are a five
hundred team now, regardless of that. Remember, Andy Reid also
was mocked and ridiculed as a guy who couldn't get
over the hump, and it wasn't until Patrick Mahomes came
along that that changed. Now, furthermore, we're gonna move away
from Andy Reid here because there's other stuff that caught
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my attention in the NFL and the Super Bowl back
in February in the Valley of the Sun. Still has
some legs here players from the Chiefs and the Eagles.
He might remember, they criticize the playing surface. They did
not appreciate the field, which was a slipping slide. They
wanted actual traction on the field. How dare them? And
(38:50):
so this is a story back in February. Here we
are in July. It's America's birthday, July fourth. Why are
we talking about this right now? So I me explain.
So they complained about Super Bowl fifty seven the field.
Now we're told the NFL has decided they know the
reason that the field was a slipping slide, and they've
placed the blame on the players for not wearing the
(39:14):
right shoes. That the players did not wear the right shoes. Now,
keep in mind some players on the Eagles and the
Chiefs talked about how they changed shoes. In fact, some
players on the Eagles even said that, and I think
this was well publicized. We talked about it. They changed
cleats a lot of the players at halftime because they
were not doing particularly well with the footing at the
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Super Bowl. And also you've got the sod Father. My
favorite part of this little chapter in NFL history is
George Toma, at age ninety four, who came out like
a buzzsaw and ripped the NFL's current field director, Ed
Mangen I believe is the guy's name. And George Toma
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said that the NFL did not allow the field to
dry enough outside after it was last watered. He blamed that.
He also said the field was sanded two weeks too late.
According to George Toma, who had been involved in every
Super Bowl overseeing that now he's too old and now
(40:20):
that he's ripped the NFL, he'll never be invited back,
because you don't cross the Godfather, Roger Goodell. Even though
you are the Sodfather, you can't mess with the godfather
of the NFL. And so the NFL, though, said, ultimately
the field passed inspection and they deemed it good enough
(40:40):
to play. So why did the NFL now come out
on this random July day and blame the Chiefs and
the Eagle players for slipping at the Super Bowl, saying
it was their problem. So it's like Janet Jackson, that's
the way love goes, right, It's a wardrobe malfunction, the
most famous nip slip in the history of the world.
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There Janet Jackson back in the day there and the
NFL blaming the wardrobe malfunction, and it's no accountability Park Avenue.
I wandered past the NFL offices there in Manhattan when
I was there last week, and there's no accountability and
they're serving up alphabet soup. It's kind of like boxing.
But the NFL they like the CYA and the PTB
(41:26):
as in cover your ass and past the blame. That's
what they like. Remember, NFL films even showed the production
arm of the NFL showed the coaches officials of the
NFL complaining about the footing players during the game, and
the NFL say, no, no, it's your fault. You screwed up.
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Bad job by you. All right, last and final thing here,
we are light years away from the twenty twenty four
NFL Draft. We are far far away from that. But
it's never too early to get in on the buzz.
And there's theres already some buzz for this. We have
to get through the college football season, the NFL season
and all that. But I was reading a report because
I got no life and the report said that one
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NFL general manager claims Marvin Harrison Junior from the Ohio
State University the Buckeyes dot the I that Marvin Harrison
Junior could that's a weasel word, could wind up being
the first player drafted in twenty twenty four. That's kind
of a big deal. The GM said. We haven't had
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a wide receiver drafted first overall since Keishawn but Harrison
could push that even in a draft with Caleb Williams,
the University of Southern California quarterback. Now, the general manager
did not sign his name, did not sign his name
to this. So the question Marvin Harrison Junior being hyped
(42:51):
up as a possible number one overall pick ahead of
Caleb Williams from the Men of Troy in the twenty
twenty five for NFL draft, So does that make any sense? Yes,
it makes nonsense, is what it makes. That's the sense
that it makes nonsense. So I'm shaking my head no
(43:14):
on this one. It has been twenty seven years, that's
a generation since the NFL had a wide receiver go
number one overall. That was Keishawan Johnson. And the only
way Caleb Williams is not the number one pick in
the NFL draft is if he hits an iceberg and
sinks to the bottom of the ocean like the Titanic, Right,
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that's the only way people forget the reason that Kishan
Johnson was the number one pick. There were no quarterbacks
in that jeft. You know who the first quarterback drafted was, No,
you don't, because you're a loser if you know that.
And I looked it up, and I didn't know it either.
In nineteen ninety six, when Kishan was drafted number one
by the Jets, the first quarterback picked was a guy
(43:59):
named Tony Banks. He needed the government to bail him out.
He was drafted by the Saint Louis Rams in the
second round. There were no quarterbacks picked in the first round.
And I will garon f and tu if there had
been one halfway decent quarterback that was greater a first
round pick, Kie Shawn Johnson would not have been drafted
number one overall. And and so that's just that's the
(44:21):
reality of the situation. And so this guy, Caleb Williams,
NFL marketing's hyping him up. He's Patrick Mahomes two point zero.
Of course, the NFL didn't even know that Patrick Maholmes
was gonna be that good. That's why he was not
drafted as the first of the second quarterback in that draft.
And when he was drafted by Kansas City, people like,
oh wait, what are they doing and what is it?
(44:41):
That's a reach by Andy Reid and all that. Well,
it didn't work out that way, And I would say
there's a better chance of Marvin Harrison not being drafted
number two than being drafted number one, because Caleb Williams
gonna be number one unless he gets hurt or arrested
or you know, sinks to the bottom of the ocean.
And then you've got some other couruarterbacks that are fringe
first round quarterbacks if you look at the projections, like
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Drake May of North Carolina and Quinn Ewers or Oers
of Texas. So those are some other quarterbacks. It is
The Bane Mather Show as we continue on. If you
want to be part of this eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox, and it's a big day. My favorite
sporting event of the year is going to go on today.
Joey Chestnut, who's going to set a new record. He's
(45:28):
getting old though. Interview Joey. Last year, Joey chest Nutt,
he talked about the aging process and he's trying to
he's trying to kick back on Father Time, right, trying
to push back on that and continue his dominance there
as he is the all time goat of eating, the
greatest eater that ever lived. And that will be going
on today and I'll actually have him on the podcast
(45:49):
this weekend. I know Joey's excited about that. He's actually
more excited Joey chest Nutt about being on the Fifth
Hour podcast with me than he is in the Nathan's
Hot Dog Contest there on Coney Island, just down the
street from Marcel in Brooklyn. Eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox. Also the nickname Game. Now, there have been
some great players with nicknames in the NFL, but we
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got one to add this. I hope this guy's a star.
He's not in the NFL yet, but this guy's got
one of the great nicknames of all time. We'll get
to that. We will do it next
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