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So yeah, you got George and myself for the next
three hours talking a lot of NFL action, including what's
going on in the Bay Area. Trey lads had another
up and un performance last night against the l A Chargers.
We'll talk Niners in about twenty minutes or so, But George,
we start today in the windy city of Chicago, where
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the boot Birds were out on a beautiful Saturday afternoon
only to watch their former quarterback run up and down
the field. I know it was the preseason game, but
Mitchell tra wisky, Uh, he was looking like Josh Allen
with that he was playing on Saturday, all doing it
in front of the fans who probably booed him for
the last three or four years. Which leads us to
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where we start today. Has nothing to do with the
Buffalo Bills, but everything to do with the Chicago Bears,
as Matt Naggy is still sticking by his guns to
have Andy Dalton as his starting quarterback to start the season. See.
See that's a funny thing. That's funny. How promises work, right,
is that there are some people who will keep them
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some people who won't. Because it is very clear that
Andy Dalton was promised that he would be the starting
quarterback for the UH for the Chicago Bears when he
signed there very clear, very very evident that that's what
what happened. But at the same time, you're like, um,
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if Justin Fields is better, he should be the starting quarterback.
Like both of those things are true at the exact
same time. So I look at Justin Fields and I say, look,
listen that he should play whenever he's ready. But also
I looked at that game against the Bills and the
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way that they were absolutely decimated, and I was like, oh, wow,
Josh Josh allenated must have came out and score watched them.
Then I looked up, say, wait, Josh Allen didn't play.
Wait this was Mitchell Bisky. Wait wait hold up, this
is Mitchell Drabinski that is widely to believe, be believed
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as an underachieving quarterback and potentially a bust a UH
that people from Chicago wanted them out until when Nick
Foles came in and then they're like, well he's better
than them, so but that they're like, okay, but we
need a whole new quarterback. And then you're like, wait,
time out, time out. He killed them like that. Matt Naggy,
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and then that makes you think, like, hold up, maybe
it was Matt Nagy's thought that he was so bad,
And and then it gets confusing, Right, Yeah, George, people
walking on milk crates had better weekends than Matt Naggie had.
That's how bad it was. On Saturday with the Chicago Bears,
I was like, I was like, dude, he's clearly going
to be the first coach Fryer, right, clearly he's Yeah,
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he's on He's on every list now. Cliff Kingsbury maybe
towards the top or at the top on a lot
of those lists, but yeah, he is definitely on the list.
And it's just that it's it's crazy to think. And
and for as much as I want to defend Matt Nage,
because there's a reason I want to defend him. I've
I've said all summer. I've said it to you on
Sundays when we do Fox Sports Sunday, I believe that
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Matt Nagy wants Andy Dalton to start Week one because
he doesn't want Justin Fields to go up against the
Rams on primetime TV in Los Angeles and have to
face Aaron Donald for three and a half hours in
his first pro start. I think that I like that.
I know people don't like that, but I think that's
the reason. And especially with an organization it may be stupid,
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but with an organization that has at forty plus years
of quarterback angst. And I mean, Jim mcman wins a
Super Bowl, but when you really look back at the
at the career of Jim McMahon, was at a Hall
of Fame quarterbacking career. No, not even close. This is
this is a team that's been dying for a quarterback.
This is a city that's been dyeing for a quarterback,
and in a quarterback that can carry them and and
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arrival what Green Bay has had over the last twenty
five years, or at least be in the same ballpark,
but they haven't been able to do it. And and
everything just kind of built up on Saturday when Andy
Dalton actually got booed in the preseason. And this again
falls all back on Matt Maggie's shoulders. This is what
Maggie had to say. We can move on for this,
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but I want to hear from what the head coach
had to say after the game where they were destroyed
by Buffalo. Dalton did throw an interception on a pass
whereas wide receiver threw down. But it was just more
about Andy Dalton's play compared to Justin fields. This is
what the head coach had to say after Saturday's game.
The stock of of Andy for us is going to
be is seeing what he does during the season. That
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has been our plan this whole entire time. At the
same point in time, we also need to evaluate and
see where Justin's at and what he can do. And
he's doing everything that we're asking him to do. I
think it's a good situation for us. I truly understand
for people to want to see or Justin and all that.
I get that, um, but we also understand where we're
at and what the true plan is and and all
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we can do is ask Justin to keep playing, and
he's doing it, and Andy to keep playing and Nick
to keep playing. That that's such a lame answer, because
the way you run a football team is you play
the best player period period. You don't try to protect
them from from something. You play Who's ever ready, And
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I'm a person that does not, does not repeat, does
not believe that you should be playing quarterbacks, that that
you should force rookie quarterbacks to play like. I don't
like the Zach Wilson situation with the Jets. I think
that the optimal way to do it is to bring
in a guy like Andy Dalton, or have a Ryan
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Fitzpatrick like to to it did or um that way,
or Alex Smith where you have my homes or Tom
tom Brady where you had even though he was in
the first round quarter quarterback, but but still that last year,
you know, justin Herbert, you know, yeah, and then if
the plan changes, like with with with Tyra Taylor, then
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it is what it what it is. But the idea
that you have to play a ricky quarterback, I hate that.
I think that you should play who's ever going to
help your team win the most. And at the point
in time that your ricky quarterback is your best quarterback
or your season is over, then that's when they should
go in and and and so. But but there's a
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lot of people who say, oh, man, and when we
drafted him and we gotta play him. I don't think
that that's the optimal thing. But when you watch Chicago Dan,
who does it look like the best quarterback is at
this point? Yeah, it looks like Justin Fields is yep.
And so then that's who should be playing and and
that's this is this is what's different about the NFL
because I actually don't agree with you on the veteran
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ushering things in with a young quarterback. This is what's
changed over the last couple of years. We've seen Josh Rosen,
who was a top ten pick, now what on his
fourth team or you know, after being waived. I mean
there's there's the Cardinals moved on from him after year one.
You had that change. You also had a change in
Cleveland where we saw in Hard Knocks, we saw the
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discussion where Hugh Jackson doesn't start, Baker Mayfield, isn't and
doesn't end up starting Baker Mayfield. Brian Hoyer's the guy,
and what happens Baker comes in and injects life into
that team and it actually becomes an indictment on Hugh Jackson.
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And then you have what happens in Baltimore. And this
is the biggest one, and this is the one that
I always point to people forget. John Harbaugh was actually
on the hot seat at one point. The Super Bowl
went over. The Niners was a distant memory, and they're
hanging onto Joe Flacco. They turned to Lamar Jackson and
guess who's still the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens
and it's John Harbaugh. Yeah, like there's you have to
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attach yourself to the young quarterback. And it's actually what
I think was the toughest thing for Anthony Lynn last year.
Was the only reason Herbert got the start. Wasn't because
Lynn said, our guy is ready. Because Anthony Lynn was
saying all along that that you know there was gonna
be a time, there was gonna be a place and
you had the dr critics work. Yeah, actually criticized Anthony
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Lynn for that because because it was the idea that
we have to handle this dude with kid gloves. If
he's given, if he's showing you he's ready, let let
the boy go out and play. And that's where But
but but then on the other hand, look look at
the way Brian Flores handled the to A situation situation.
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I thought that while while Toa was going to turn
the ball over less than Ryan Fitzpatrick did, Ryan Fitzpatrick
still gave you the best chance to a win. And
they knew that they stupon practice as well, so that didn't,
but I thought that the pressure from Herbert and Joe
Burrow playing well made them want to go to to
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that much more because they're like, yo, if this, if
this is working, and we think two is better than
both of them, so then this gotta gotta work. Well,
remember it is. Remember what happened in Miami though, because
of the COVID delays last year with games being moved around,
the Dolphins bye week got moved up. And that's what
actually screwed Miami was that their bye week, all of
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a sudden, was here. And that tells you that all
along their plan was to have to a start after
the bye week, but their bye week got moved up
from like week ten to like week six or seven,
and all of a sudden, their bye weeks here, and
they're like, we're making the change, where Fitzpatrick's like, hold on,
wait a second, But it tells you like that was
their plan all along. And I think that Matt Nagy
has a plan, and while I understand the plan for
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week one, maybe that's not the case, and maybe that
that's that's more of an indictment on having a plan
instead of just going with the guy. Because if it's
because if it's even close. Doesn't have to be even
if the veteran is playing better, But if it's close,
I think you still have to go with the young time,
especially with the young guy, especially in a time in
Chicago where you've waited decades for a future and future
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star quarterback and to have him on the bench for
a guy that we know everything about Andy Dalton. There
is nothing that we don't know about Andy Dalton. That's
what's that's the problem with what mcnagie is doing right now. Yeah, see,
because and Andy Dalton on on his career is like
a sixty four percent completion guy. He is, you know,
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he's thrown for over four thousand yards only twice in
teen years, uh, only over thirty touchdowns once and like
he's kind of like, you know, twenty two to twenty
five touchdown guy and then nothing nothing substantially you know
special um. But so like he's a guy who can
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know bridge that. But that that's where I don't think
that Matt naggy is. I don't like it because coming
into the season he said there is no quarterback competition.
Andy Dalton's our guy. Prior to uh, justin fields even
throwing a pass in a Chicago Bears uniform, and I
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thought he already had had a bad approach because why
would you say what the outcome of the situation is
going to be when like, if he comes in like
some of these other rookie quarter quarterbacks have and it
is clearly the best. Dude, why on earth are we
playing anybody else? Like? It just doesn't like, why would
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you say you know who you're starting quarterback is gonna
be when you got a guy from the Cowboys and
Andy Dalton who was a backup who didn't he played okay,
but nothing special, and then you got a rookie coming
in you don't know how good he's going to be,
So why on earth would you predetermine the outcome? That's
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the question that Matt Nagie needs to answer. And it's
just it doesn't make a lot of sense. I I
the only thing that I can again defend him on,
it's just I feel that's why Andy Dalton is their
starter is because of what they have week one. But
when you have a guy getting booed in the preseason,
and Justin Fields even said afterwards, in fact, we got
a little time this was this was Justin Fields after uh,
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the game on Saturday talking about the Boobirds that Andy
Dalton had to hear about. The fans are awesome getting
me out there, but they also have to realize, you know,
and he's a human being too, and he's out there
on the field right now. So I really just think
it's kind of disrespectful to Andy, you know, damn chair
and share my name out like that. They have to
you know, trust in coach to you know, make sure
he's making the right decisions. You know, just cheer Andy
on like there's no that's not helping Andy play better
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than share my name. That's that's not doing none of
that is my advice to them, would be just cheer
for for who's out there playing on the field and
he's saying the right thing. But there's no way they
trust what Matt Naggie is doing. Absolutely not. But but
but doesn't that show a lot of not only humanity
but maturity by justin Fields to address it that way,
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you know, because because because he could have easily said,
you know, I don't like the booze blah blah blah,
but instead he actually big up to his teammate, who,
by all accounts, is helping him as well. So it's
so it's like I learned more in that clip about
Justin Fields the person than I did about you know,
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any any anything else. I just thought that he's a
good dude who doesn't want to see this. He understands
the situation, which is difficult for everybody, but he also
is aware of that and aware of somebody else's feelings
in the situation while also at the same time trying
to take this man's job. Andy Dalton last year in
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relief of Dak Prescott when he got injured in the
ten games that he played, had substantial snaps and through
interceptions and seven of them, you know, there there there
were some, There were some, you know, decent numbers, you
know against Minnesota through three touchdowns, had a three touchdown,
three hundred and seventy seven yard game against the bad
Eagles team. But yeah, Andy Dalton is who Andy Dalton is.
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And I think that Matt Negan knows it. But he's
uh apparently still sticking to his guns, as you said,
sticking to his word to keep him QB one, even
if it is for at least one game. Be sure
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minute Ticker was how NBC Sports used to provide scores
of other games around the NFL during their broadcast. So
I would say the Broncos were playing the Browns in Denver,
you know, the the late game. You would only know
maybe what was going on with the Raiders game in
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l A or the forty Niners game in San Francisco
via the ten minute ticker, which told you every ten
minutes Football League. OK. Yeah, And it was so innovative
at the time because there was no Internet. There was
no bottom scroll on the screen. They didn't even put
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the game of the score of the current game that
was being played on the screen. But every ten minutes
if you were a fan of a team like I
was a fan of the Seahawks, and they usually weren't
playing in my market, so I would have to wait
for the ten minute taker and they could be up
three nothing and then approximately ten minutes. I think they
were pretty loose with with how they did it all
of a sudden, next thing, you know, they're down seventeen
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to three and it's the second quarter. But that was
how you actually took took in scores of other games
back then, in pre internet days. It was one of
the one of the things that I'll always remember from
the childhood of of of being so excited when the
ten minute taker came. It was just one of the
early innovations when it came to to watching football that
allowed us to maybe expand and see what else was
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going around the NFL instead of just waiting at halftime
for the scores. Yes, dude, like that. The constant ticker
at the bottom. And I don't remember what show it was.
When when they would tell you how long prior that, like,
how long before the next segment come comes up? Because
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when like you would start a program and then you
were looking for one particular segment, and then when they
would be like, oh, in seventeen minutes, expect this, blah
blah blah. I actually like that better because I know
they want people to watch the entire program. But really,
like I mean, even to to this show, there's gonna
be few people who listen to the entire three hours part.
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I mean, because they're in the car for such a
short period of time. There are commercials, they switch, they
come back, all of that stuff. So why would you
fight it? Like, so instead of fighting people, just come,
just just give them what they want. They can appointment
listen and then they'll come back again. Yeah, and and that,
and and the the attention span of people who want
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to watch game. So I just want to get the
highlights of the best of the best. That's what it
is now. There was no way that that was happening
thirty years ago, not with the technology, and technology obviously
is improved greatly in the world of football, broadcast. We
now have a first down line. You know, Fox did
the innovative a score bug that kept it up there
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you mentioned, uh, you know, the the ticker that's now
can be used on the bottom of the screen giving
you stats and scores. It's obviously you know, become a
million miles. But the the really biggest, I think innovation
that has just grabbed everybody's attention has been Red Zone TV,
And beginning today, NFL Red Zone replays every Sunday of
the NFL season in chronological order, for seventeen straight days
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going through September eight, with additions airing at eight o'clock,
three o'clock or ten o'clock Eastern time each day. And
the guy that you will see on your screen joins
us now. Scott Hanson, the host of the NFL Red
Zone channel from the NFL Network, joins us now. Hey, Scott, Scott,
what's going on? George? Good to be with you, guys,
Good to be with you, and good to be back
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to some football. When when when did you know that
this was different? Was it at the grocery store? Was
it when somebody recognizes you at a restaurant? But when
did you know that this was a whole different animal.
Well I had. I went into the very first season,
which gosh is all the way back in two thousand
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and nine, right, this will be This upcoming season is
season thirteen for us. I went into it thinking, if
we do this well, this will change the way people
watch football. Because the concept as it was pitched to
me before when I was named the host, and going
into the first episode seven hours commercial free football, every
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touchdown from every game, the ability at our discretion to
find the hot spot in the NFL at any given
moment and take our audience their lives. I was thinking,
as a in I would watch this. What I mean,
what's not to love? Right? So so I went into
it thinking this could be big, but maybe more of
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a close. Anecdote to your point was at a grocery store,
a grocery store parking lot here in Los Angeles where
I live. I'm just getting I'm getting my bags, right,
a recycled bags out of the back to go inside
the grocery store, and I hear from three parking spots
over a guy and he's yelling in my direction. He goes,
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give it to me, give it to me. I'm like,
what some guys yelling. I didn't say my name, didn't
say anything, didn't say red Zone. And I looked at
him and the way he had a look in his face.
I was like, Okay, this guy wants me to do
the catchphrase. So I looked over at him and I
go seven hours of commercial free football start now. And
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he literally acted like he won the Super Bowl. He
was like, well, yeah, let's go and jump in his
car and drove out of the grocery store parking lot.
And I was like, are you kidding me? Are you
kidding me? This has transcended into pop culture. I guess yeah,
And I guess the last you know, year two hears
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have been really weird for you because now um red
Zone is going to be leaving Direct TV and you
were up for a new contract and trying to figure
out where did Was there ever any point where you
were like, man, this this may not happen and I
may lose something that I helped create and it really
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matters to me. Yeah, there's actually a lot of confusion
about that. I think because the NFL Red Zone my
show is the one that I don't have an exact percentage,
but probably of the football fans that watch Red Zone.
They watch NFL Red Zone hosted by by me Scott Hanson,
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but Direct TV has what's called the Red Zone Channel,
expertly hosted by Andrew Siciliano, a contemporary of mine. And
yeah there are direct TV. People can google this if
they care about the Direct TV's contract is is winding
down and we'll see what happens in the future. They're
My contract with NFL Media was due to expire this summer,
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and like like it happens, you know, like your favorite
NFL players go through, they get to be some real
intense negotiations when you know, I I have my desires
for the contract that the company has their desire for
the contract. Ultimately, we NFL Media and myself came to
a place where, like, looking, you guys have been really
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good to me. I feel like I've been really good
to NFL Media hosting one of the highest profile products
that there that there is, and we decided to you know,
continue doing business together, for which I am very very
thankful for the executives that that ultimately made that decision.
So yeah, I'm signed up and I'm rocking and rolling,
and uh, kind of like an NFL player, I don't
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like the contract negotiation stuff. I want to I want
to be into football, and that's where my mind is
focused right now, and I'm thankful for that. So you
guys are stuck with me for the next next few
years or so, and happy to be stuck with you.
Scott Hansen, host of the NFL Red Zone from NFL Network,
joining us here on the Doug Out Lib Show on
Fox Sports Radio. I'm curious as well about the production.
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I remember I've been at the radio network here for
sixteen years, and about a decade ago, there was a
rule never have a kicker on as a guest, like
that you could kick, you could kick seven field goals,
including the game winner. They were not going to have
a kicker on. Are there rules where you're like, no
punts are gonna be shown, or like, are there rules
that the productive guys are like, Okay, okay, guys, guys, guys. Yes,
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this is a great point. This is a great point.
I'm glad you asked this, because when we show a punt,
it is one of three things is going to happen, well,
maybe one of four things. It's either going to be
a fake punt, it's gonna be a blocked punt. It's
gonna be a punt return for a touchdown, or it's
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a standard Oh, there goes forty five yards down the
field out of bounds at the right sideline there and
the Chiefs will take over at the thirty yard line.
If it's a standard punt. What we have said in
the control room is, oh man, we got nowhere to
go right now. The Bows are in commercial break, Dallas
Cowboys are in a time out, the Dolphins are in
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the huddle. Uh, this game's at halftime. We gotta eat
the punt. And that's literally what we say. How we
gotta eat the punt. And it's like broccoli to a
five year old. You know, we we we okay, we
got we're stuck. We gotta show the punt. So so
trust us. We don't want to show something that's just
home drum like that. But if we do, it means
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there's no better place to go in that moment. Okay,
take us behind the curtain even even further right, because
I've done a lot of radio and there are times
where you where we've had short breaks and you know,
you you are still a human being and you still
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have to handle your your human things. That you have
to do. But you have never missed missed the play.
And I am, and I am under the impression that
to do that for seven hours, for what's this twelve seasons,
that you must have a a a cup, a booked
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up to a catherter or something to make this happen.
I have heard every joke in the book, at least
I think I have. You know, I've heard the I
heard that all my seat is really a toilet in
the studio, or I'm not a stadium pal, or I've
you know that this, that or the other. Yeah, I've
heard them all. The reality is, guys, I dehydrate myself
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on starting on Sunday mornings. I cut off all my
food and liquids three four hours before the show begins.
I used the men's room twice in the last hour
leading up to the show. In fact, you guys know
how we show the five minute countdown clock right before
Like a lot of people like tell me, like like
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watching the five minute countdown clock with the old NFL
films music. When you're watching the five minute countdown clock,
I'm in the men's room handling my business for the
last moment, and then I come in the microphone goes on,
the earpiece goes in, I get in front of the
monitors and it's the willpower of a ninja for seven
straight hours. Because I've only taken in the last at
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least eight plus years, I lost track, but I've only
taken one bathroom break in that amount of time. So yep,
it's my my fantasy football team. Name is the Iron Bladders.
That that's fantastic. Scott Hanson, host of NFL Red Zone
from NFL Network, Um, last one for me and and
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we're just so fascinated. It's become such a fabric of
our Sunday. So I think that this behind the scenes
stuff is great. The NFL schedule is what it is,
and there's gonna be a weekend you know, Green Bays
at Kansas City. That's one of two late games or
one of three late games. What's more, what's more difficult
when there's only three games going on or where you
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have to like cover ten and like the one o'clock
eastern window. Yeah, they both had their own challenges. That's
a very insightful broadcasting question because people would think, oh man,
it's gotta be insane when you got ten games in
the early window, and yes it can be, especially if
seven of them are one possession games in the fourth quarter,
it's like, oh we got we got a lot of
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jumping to do. But I would way, way rather have
that scenario than the two game late window, when and
you know, one of the two games is like a
pseudo national game, whatever Packers, Cowboys or whatever, and then
you've got maybe a smaller quote unquote regional game. Is
the only other place we can go to. For me,
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I like to press the gas pedal. So if there's
two games in the late window, we're just using fills.
We're gonna show you some news conferences, We'll show you
highlights from the early games. But I want live action.
You guys can tell me. I'm I can tell about me.
I'm I'm about action, passion, energy, live. Now, let's do it.
And I'd rather ride that wave than have it slow
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slow down in a two or three game late window. Thankfully,
we've only got a we got a handful of them.
I'm looking at the schedule right now, it looks like
we have no two game late windows. We do have
a handful of three game late windows this year. Oh man,
go ahead. Job. The last I was I was just
gonna ask, like about the how does the league you know,
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think about the broadcast partners like you guys when it
when it comes to making the schedule, Because I did
Red Zone on radio and I was like, so I
understand where those two and even the three game windows.
You're like, bro, why why would you schedule this? And
then you have like twelve games in the morning. You're
like why? But um, but is there something wait for
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you guys to give input back to the league about
little stuff like that. Yeah, I mean we try to.
But if you guys have probably seen some of the
features they do on the team of individuals who put
together the NFL schedule, they it's like every year they're
selecting a new pope or something. It's a mysterious, you know,
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intense ancients and and and mystical type formula that they
have to come up with to serve all of the
masters that have that have desires for wealth. See. Yes,
wants as many great games as they can have. Fox
does Monday Night Football, and ESPN want the best games
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Sunday Night Football. NBC wants the best game. The Thursday
night package wants to have great games. Oh there's a
Rodeo in Houston. So the Texans can't play that Sunday
at a four o'clock Eastern game, So you got to
move that out. So and so can have three straight
road games. This team has this going on and whatnot.
It's incredible. So we're a little bit further down the
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totem pole. I'm just thankful that they want to beef
up the early window as much as possible. But a
nice user friendly eight four split eight games in the
early window to fill up what we call the octo
box when we show you eight games at once and
then four games in the late window with a quad box.
That's a nice fun seven hour afternoon for my money.
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On NFL Red Zone, and we do have a couple
of those this year. He's Scott Hansen, host of NFL
Red Zone from NFL Network. Here's a tip, try county
money during your show this year, because that's what George
Rister did on this show about an hour ago. Yes,
literally counting his money during our show. I don't know
if you can do that on the Red Zone show,
but you can give it a try, Scott. Oh my god, dude,
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Dan Dan he neglected to answer that that question, but
I was. I was honest about it because I was
making noise, so I will tell you truth. It was okay. Yeah,
I was playing cards, so that's why I had. Oh yeah,
it's just the right front pocket. We had to even
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worked its way back. The smart poker player knows when
to hide a couple of extra benjis Oh great stuff
again today NFL Red Zone replaying every Sunday of last
season in chronicle chronological order for seventeen consecutive days through
September eight, with additions during at eight o'clock Eastern in
the morning, three o'clock Eastern in the afternoon, at ten
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o'clock Eastern at night. Scott, we love the inside stuff.
It really is great. We can't wait to see you
in week one and thanks so much for the time.
Great to be with you, guys. Enjoin the season. Get
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Glad you're with us. Week two of the NFL preseason
wraps up tonight with the Jaguars and Saints playing in
New Orleans. Then we're gonna have a Week three and
a little different NFL schedule. Because of the seventeen regular
season games of the three preseason games, teams can have
about two weeks time to get ready for a week one,
to look at a bit of a breather over Labor
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Day weekend and a couple of days before that, and
then head into the NFL regular season. The preseason, George
also allows us time to really put an end to
what happened in and look ahead to the one season.
The NFL Network loves to get us into the football
um mood, and when you bring out rankings, you know
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there's going to be controversy. Consider me hook line and sinker,
I took the bait. The NFL's top one hundred list
is down to ten. We will find out the top
ten coming up on Sunday in the final uh the
final reveal. But the order of the ten we don't know.
We do know who the top ten players that are
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going to make up the top ten, who they will be,
because the NFL Network did reveal those players in alphabetical order.
This is who's gonna make up the top ten of
the NFL's Top one voted on by fellow NFL players.
Davanta Adams of the Packers, Josh Allen of the Bills,
Bucks quarterback Tom Brady, Rams defensive lineman Aaron Donald Titans,
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taleback Derrick Henry, DeAndre Hopkins of the Cardinals Chief Sen
and Travis Kelsey his teammate, quarterback Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers
of the Packers, and t J. Watt of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Are there any names of those ten that will make
up the top ten that I don't know? Hit your
ear and say, I don't know if they should be
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in that top ten? Any of those names make you
feel that way? George, Um, yeah, a couple of them.
First thing is I am very surprised, which I don't
mind though, is that they have Tyreek Hill at fifteen
and Travis Kelsey inside the top ten. I thought that
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that was very interesting. Um, because people normally value wide
receivers higher than they do, you know, even even if
they don't necessarily think they're better. It's seen as more
of a premium position. So I thought that that that
was a little bit interesting. And also, um, who was
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the who was the last name that t J. Watt
of the Steelers. Yeah, in terms of because I think
that players realize how good t J. Watt is, but
in when his mad and rating came out, people like,
oh you got t J. Watt? Ranked above this and
this guy. And so I think that there's a difference
between what players think and sometimes what fans thing. The
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thing that I guess I like it, I don't like
and I'm a bit in the middle of it is
I'm surprised, but I'm not surprised that there are four
quarterbacks out of the ten. And I think that when
you look at back at last year, Aaron Rodgers was
the m v P. Josh Allen was in that conversation.
Last year, Patrick Mahomes was in that conversation. I mean
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know that Tom Brady ended up winning a Super Bowl
and Tom Brady's tom Brady finishing with what forty touchdown passes.
I get it, but I also think, like, Okay, that's
kind of let's kind of expand where we are. Let's
let's really look at all the positions. I don't have
a problem with Travis Kelsey. I actually have a problem
with anotherwide receiver on the list, and DeAndre Hopkins. And
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and the reason that I have a problem with deon
Ray Hopkins is Stefan Diggs didn't make this this list.
And Stefan Diggs was on a team and a big
reason why he was he was in the top twenty. Yeah,
he was a number eleven. I believe. I believe he
was just on the outside looking in when it came
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to it. But when I look at Stefon Diggs, he's
on a team that went to the a f C
Championship Game. When I look at Davante Adams, he's on
a team that went to the NFC Championship Game. They
put up numbers that are tops in the National Football League.
DeAndre Hopkins didn't lead in receptions or yards or touchdowns
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and was on a team that was had a defense
that was average at best, that trailed a lot in
a past happy offense. And so I understand, like other
players respect DeAndre hopkins game, and this maybe what this
is more about. But I just don't think that I
don't think that he fits into this. When you look
at when you look at the players and you look
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at the teams that are on this list, nine out
of the ten players that made the top ten had
their teams go to the postseason. And DeAndre Hopkins had
a nice season, but like Derrick Henry had two thousand
yards last year in in carrying the football for the
Tennessee Titans, and it it is the reason that they ended
up winning the a f C South like DeAndre Hopkins
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had none of that. He had a great catch against
Buffalo on a hail Murray and that's when put him
in the top ten. When when they reveal the ten
on Sunday, number ten is gonna be DeAndre Hopkins because
he just to me doesn't fit in with the other nine. Yeah.
The it's interesting how players fall and rise so high
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on here. Like if you if you look at a
guy like George Kittle, right, George Kittle is number fifty
this year. Guess how many spots he was down from
last year? And and granted he was he was out
for the better part of this this season, but he
still was a very good blockert reception six D and
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thirty four yards and two touchdowns prior to going on
i R. So he missed the majority of the season.
So how many spots because he's at number fifty, Now,
where do you think he was last year? Unless you yeah,
I would say top twenty. He was number seven last year. Wow.
So so if you get injured, there's going to be
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some you know, payback for that. I mean, I mean
even when you look at Tom, Tom Brady. Tom Brady
is gonna be inside the top ten. I would be
willing to bet without even looking that he was outside
of the top ten going into last season. Yeah he was.
Tom Brady was fourteen last year. Yeah exactly. And now
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he's gonna be like number three right now the the
of the of the top six team players. Oh, he
might even end up being above Patrick Mahomes. Watch who
who should be number one? I you know, I think
Rogers ends up being number one. The only the only
guarantee this is this is he was the MVP. Yes,
this is what I think happens. I think Rogers is
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number one. I think Aaron Donald is number two. I
think that there are enough people in the league and
in our business that appreciate Aaron Donald and believe that
he's the best football player in the NFL, regardless of position,
the the the player who. I mean, Aaron Donald is
just just an absolute beast. And I think that he
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will be number two. I don't think they're gonna have
quarterbacks be one, two and three, And I actually think
that Josh Allen will end up being three. Where Brady
and Mahomes go, I don't know, but I think there's
gonna be love to the Buffalo quarterback. But I think
Rogers goes one, Aaron Donald ends up being two, and
I think that Josh Allen will be will be three.
Maybe you have Mahomes and Brady after that, four five,
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but I think that's where you can Then six through ten,
you're putting t J. Watt, and you're putting Derrick Kendray,
and you're putting Davante Adams and those guys. But I
think Rodgers is one, Hopkins being ends up being ten,
and Donald anal and just fall short of being number one. Yeah. Yeah,
I think you're probably right there the the top sixteen.
When I go to players, fifteen of them have been
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to the playoffs. You had Stefan Digs at eleven, Russell
Wilson twelve, Jalen Ramsey thirteen, Alvin Kamara fourteen, and then
you mentioned Tyreek Kill at fifteen, then Miles Garrett sixteen.
Xavian Howard of the Dolphins ended up coming in at
number seventeen. The Dolphins didn't make the postseason last year,
so that's so out of the top sixteen, DeAndre Hopkins
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was the only player there. And it's not to be
a rein on DeAndre Hopkins parade. But I just there's
I think he benefits from Bill O'Brien being such an
idiot and trading him and making such a bad deal.
Like I think DeAndre Hopkins is great, but the Cardinals
are a bad football team, so they're throwing the football
a lot. They're already in a past happy offense, and
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they didn't lead the league in any of the you know,
the main categories. As I talked about it, there's a
little a little bit, maybe a little bit too much
hype that we put behind DeAndre Hopkins at times. See
that's very interesting because there is a lot of people
who feel like that about him. They're like, yo, he's good,
but he's not like he's clearly very difficult to a guard.
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He catches the ball, he caught the hail murray, all
all of those things. But something about and it could
be and and it's not the fact that he's quiet
and kind of although those things, because Davante Adams is
as well. I think the fact that his team is
not necessarily as good is the thing that evokes that
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in motion and questioning how good he is because of
because the Cardinals aren't as good. So I think that
that makes us inherently question, you know, where it belongs
on the list, Like like you're you're effectively saying, if
you're the players in breaking this down, you're effectively saying
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that DeAndre Hopkins and Davante Adams were in the same
class last year because they're gonna be in the top ten,
And in reality, you couldn't be further from the truth.
In fourteen games, Davante Adams had a hundred and fifteen receptions,
the same amount that DeAndre Hopkins had in sixteen games.
Hopkins ended up having thirty three more yards than Adams
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did in two more games. And then you think of
this stat. DeAndre Hopkins had six touchdowns last season. Davante
Adams had eighteen in fourteen games. And so it's not
her rain on DeAndre Hopkins Day on Fox Sports Radio.
It's not what I'm trying to do. But one of
these things is not like the other when it comes
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to this top ten, And I just don't know how
you could put those two in the same class. Even
Stefon Diggs as numbers are better than what DeAndre Hopkins
has on a winning team, and yeah, the quarterback, Yeah,
Josh Allen Kyler Murray's running all over the place and
throwing the football as well. I just maybe the maybe
it's the reputation of DeAndre Hopkins that ends up putting
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him on this list. But to me, I was I
was surprised to see that he made the top ten.
I don't think the numbers back it up that he
deserves to be there. I can't. It's hard to argue
again it is, how are you right? Twice in a daylight?
Oh man? You know I'm gonna you need to mark
the tape today, buddy. I'm just gonna be counting my
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money and counting my money and how right? You know
what it is. George doesn't want it, didn't want to
tell us, but he kind of wanted to tell us,
you know, I didn't want to. You know. It's it's
just a we we do a very transparent show, and
you know, and I feel comfort were talking about pretty
(47:01):
much anything, and and sometimes people when they're listening to
the rights to the wrong podcast and all that stuff.
I've I've gotten, George, you kind of overshare. But I
love these stories and so I don't. I don't mind it, um,
even if it will come off a little pretentious every
every now and then because the guy do the podcast
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with Ralph Um. He always jokes at the at the
food I eat right because he came to my He's
been to my house and all this, and he's like,
George doesn't have regular salt at at home. I was like,
who uses iodised table salt? I pique him Alayan sea salt.
So we have both. Guess which what I used? Guess
(47:43):
which one my wife uses. Don't tell me that you
use iodized absolutely salty. So there it is, yeah, absolutely.
And the umbrella at all is it Morton's. It's more Morton's. Bro.
You you gotta step up, man, you gotta step step
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