October 27, 2017 • 35 mins
Doug reacts to Texans owner Bob McNair using the phrase "inmates running the prison" and why this is just one example of problems the NFL is dealing with. He talks about the Penn State-Ohio State game on Saturday and why the pressure is on J.T. Barrett. Plus, 2-time Super Bowl Champ and long time defensive coordinator Rob Ryan joins the show to give his thoughts on Kiko Alonso's hit on Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Dog Got Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio Home. What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio coming to you, live and direct from
the City of Angels, where we, like all of you,
are waiting for Fox's coverage Game three of the World
Series tonight live from Houston. But uh, Houston, I mean, look,
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I I struggle sometimes with this idea that that city championship,
state championships somehow bring peace to people who have been
whose lives have been changed forever by natural disasters or
or man made disasters, either one. Houston has been through
a lot, and the baseball team was playing and is
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trying to win their first championship for the city. I
don't know if that, I don't That doesn't fix anybody's home.
That doesn't that might perk their spirits up for a moment.
But Houston is kind of the epicenter of a story
that broke earlier today in which ESPN dot Com detailed
the behind the scenes workings, behind the scenes workings of
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that remember that the owners meetings, the league meetings, going
back what it's like a week and a half ago
in New York City, in which some players came in
and met with the owners, but they were also owner
only meetings, some attended by all the owners, some attended
by uh, groups of owners and owner representatives. And and
in that what people are doing is what we'll look.
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We're bastardizing every story. That's what we do. And DeAndre
Hopkins sadly is falling, uh, falling to the falling to
the headline, like so many of us do. I'm not
sure what I'm bothered by more the fact that people misunderstand,
misunderstand a commonly used expression or phrase, or the fact
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that really smart people can misstate a commonly used expression
or face. Because that's really what happened. Bob mcnare is
the owner of the Houston Texans. I've never heard him
called a racist ever before. Um, and of course people
are going to say that what he said was racially
insensitive on some levels, because you have black players in
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the NFL and some white payers protesting police brutality, some protesting, uh,
some protesting simply what the president has said. The President
has done like a protest to the anti protest protest
protest right, and uh uh, it's left with with this
confusing thing. So here's what Bob McNair said, and the
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quote is, um, we can't have the inmates running the prison.
Now here's the first thing, bobc neare misused. It's really
frustrating to me. I'm I'm not gonna sit here and
walk around say'mlementum embroum smarter than people. But I do
know that unless you know the expression, don't use the expression.
And if you have really good friends, they should tell you, like, hey,
do this another way to use that. Okay, it's inmates
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can't run the asylum. The asylum, oh, the asylum, which
actually doesn't make sense because if it's an insane insane asylum,
they're not actually I mean, if it's insane, asylum is
actually a word for prison. But insane asylum is generally
what inmates can't run the asylum. You could, you could
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have gone, which we have too many chiefs in that
nevia and he is well, oh wait, that expression that
would be insensitive to Native Americans, even though um we
misidentified Native Americans as Indians. This is going back hundreds
of years ago. Um boy, this is a tough one.
Ah yeah, but I think we actually know what Bob
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McNair is talking about. And that's the crazy part about it. Yes,
he probably should. It's a miss missed. You shouldn't have
said prison because now it's like, oh, well, you're talking
about black guys, you're talking about cops, are talking about prison,
and DeAndre Hopkins obviously is I'm just gonna be blunt.
He's not smart enough to understand the nuance of what
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he said. But it's it's true in my profession, and
I'm guessing it's true in your profession. That though employees
can can band together and say like, hey, look we
we have a part of this company. Um, we want
to be part of your future. But this is the way,
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this is how we would It was some of the
things we like enacted, but demanding a course of action,
demanding the ability to protest, and not having the wherewithal
the understanding of all the things going on in the business.
That's classic employee stuff, right, classic employee stuff. Richard Branson,
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I believe you can you work for Virgin like you're
gonna take sick days. You can take off whatever you want.
You know, I'm no limit to sick days, no limit
to whatever. Now it works in some fields. The problem
is on there's a multitude levels. One is a collective
bartin agreement, so the workforce has negotiated with ownership in
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the past and that. But the bigger thing is if
you actually read the article, and it's a long article,
this is the Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. If
you actually read, there's a lot of stuff out there.
There are a lot of pitfalls in the business of
the National Football League. And while players simply think there's
like everybody thinks in linear fashion, everything's cause effect, cause effect,
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because that's that's what we're told. Because that's was really
really easy. It's really really easy to think that way
that I do something, it's going to cause this thing,
and if I protest this thing, it could cause a
disruption within the business, which will cause what I want
to happen to happen. That's great. There's a lot of
other stuff. Look um, people have predicted dooming gloom for
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the NFL, and I don't know whether they're right right
now out but I think, uh, there there is some
foresight there from the Mark Cubans of the world. The
protest is only a small fraction of the issues that
the NFL is working on. The head of a fox,
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a pet of Foxes said, like, hey, look, the reason
for the ratings decline is frankly because there's a proliferation
of NFL on TV. It's the same thing that happened
to college basketball. In college football, there's nothing special about
a nationally televised NFL game. There was one on last night.
Did you watch it? You might have? You turned on
You're like, oh, Matt Moore Hill Ravens. The Ravens aren't
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even any good and the Dolphins could do nothing with
the Ravens, Like the most interesting thing. The most interesting
thing is our discussion over Kiko Alonso's dirty hit on
Joe Flaco. And it was dirty. Whether it was an
intentionally dirty hit or not, whether it was a planned
dirty act or not. But it's dirty. You launch yourself
your head and then eventually your shoulder hits a quarter
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at who's sliding, especially one that's six ft six and
you're a guy that's launched yourself earlier in the game.
It's a dirty play. There's no way around it. But
even players that come out and defend it, they don't
understand all of the other things working against you. Look,
let me let me lay out the issues for the NFL.
First of all ratings are down. Why there's a bunch
of reasons. The first thing is that football has always
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been a sport incredibly dangerous when you and I were kids,
at least when I was a kid, Romos was a kid.
Music is a little bit younger. I mean he he
just graduated high school. Um. When when we were kids,
it was hard to get your mom to sign the
permission slip because people worried about being paralyzed and what
about your knees and your back right, And of course
we still have stories of kids yearly being paralyzed by football,
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but we don't even talk about anymore because now we've
discovered that that's only part of what football will do
to you. It can It gives the brain sales. Son.
Wasn't that what Morgan Freeman said? And was it standby stand,
do the right thing, no and not do the um uh,
Lena me lean on me right? Remember he was Joe Clark,
the principal in d C. Right kills brain sales, don Right,
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that's what football kills, brain cells. You have former stars
killing themselves, former stars who are incapacitated, and football is
at least partially to blame. So you're gonna have a
declining number of young kids wanting to play football. You
have a declined number of parents who want to let
their kids play tackle football. Heck, even Drew Brees that
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started a new flag football league because he doesn't believe
people should play tackle football until they get to high
school age. You have declining numbers and participation, so you're
not gonna be able to refill with the top level athletes. Uh,
you don't have the field good feelings from former players
because so many of them their bodies are mangled and
now their brains are too. TV numbers are down partially
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because of that, partially because look, it's on every night.
It's not all that special, right, It's just not um
And when the numbers are down, then all of a sudden,
the sponsors start to go like, hey, wait, look, you
promised me X for ratings and I'm getting X minus
one and X minus three, so I want some of
my money back. And then the country is being at
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least partially divided, some by the president, but often by
how the protests are viewed. And so what Bogging McNair
is saying in not so many words and not using
the expression the cliche accurately is Hey, players can't tell
us what's good for our business. We are businessmen, you know.
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The last thing is and this is really important some
owners and this is NBA, this is Major League Baseball,
this is NFL. Like Look, Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys
for I don't know, it's like a hundred and fifty
d and sixty million dollars. It's worth like four billion dollars.
So he got in when prices were low. He's put
a bunch of money into the stadium, and he's been
rewarded as such. I mean, he can sit there and
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anytime he needs he needs money, he can cash in
on the equity of his football team. But that's not
the way it is for everybody. A lot of a
lot of owners spent a lot of money and lose
money on a daily basis only to make money in
the value of the team and then don't want to
sell that. I don't why do I have to sell
this business. I want to make money on my business.
But it's hard. It's competitive. You're competing with baseball. You
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can bet with basketball, NBA's hot, you compete with college sports,
you're competing with MLS, You're competing all of the same dollars. Hey,
here's another thing, Like the TV product is so good,
it's really hard to get people. Why would you go
to an NFL game? Have you ever gone? It's terrible.
You can't watch the other games. What if your game sucks?
And if your game is good, you gotta you gotta
fight traffic, you gotta pay for parking. Then you gotta
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decide to get there early. Remember, if it's a Sunday, like,
that's a family day. Now you gotta beg your wife.
Do you want to bring your wife and kids? And
if you bring your wife and kids, now it's kind
of a guy event, not everybody. You know, you can't
really select the clientele you're around. You think you're priced
out of the ruffians, but they're still They're like the
whole thing. So stadiums aren't full because it's nothing special
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about the NFL game. So you're dealing with declining attendance
to climbing ratings. Uh, sponsors who want Hey, hey, I
want to make goods on these deals here and oh yeah,
by the way, we got protests going on, So listen.
DeAndre Hopkins and NFL players, I respect you, like look
you've got issues, and I I I fully even if
he said I'm fully respectful of wanting to curb I
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wanted to curb police brutality. Who doesn't. Who doesn't. That's
not good for anybody's business, not good for your city,
it's not good for tourism, not good for home values
or franchise values. It's not But the inmates can't run
the asylum, the prison, the football team. And if you're
bothered by the use of the word inmates, sorry, that's
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a U problem. You don't understand the expression. Well, you
come up to speed on the expression. I'll fill you
in on the business acumen that you don't have. I mean, like,
look look around the NFL. Odell Beckham Jr. Out for
the year. You think that helps the chat? I just
think that helps business. Aaron Rodgers probably out for the year.
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I think that helps business. J. J. Watt out for
the year. Like the most popular NFL player who's cashed
in his positive equity to raise thirty seven million dollars
for hurricane relief, Like that, dude's not playing. These guys
are made out to be heroes and they are celebrated
as such, and they're not playing. That's all gonna hurt business.
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So I'm not saying your protests aren't important to you.
But I mean even if you say, don't bite the
hand that feeds you. Oh oh so, now so now
you're I'm just a dog and you're just Yeah, listen, dude,
these are expressions. These are expressions. This is the way
it works in business. And if you don't respect and
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appreciate that there's a lot of other stuff, there's a
lot of other things at play, then then I can't really,
I can't really help you. Be sure to catch live
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I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome and he's a two
time Super Bowl champion. He's Rob Ryan. He joined us.
He's a Fox NFL analyst and um, Rob, last night
we're watching um not great football. Thursday football have been
good the past couple of weeks. It was not great
last night. I think the big the big question is
from a defensive guy's perspective, what's your take on the
Kiko Alonso hit? Well, I think clearly, you know, once
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guy's on the runs, he's trying to get the first down,
but he's going into a slide. You can't do that.
And uh, you know, hey, look there's a fine line
between right and wrong. But he knows he was wrong,
and he's done that before, but uh, you know, you
can't do that the games right now, the rules are
to protect the quarterback. And and I was shocked there
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wasn't more fouls called on that play. You know what
what's interesting about it is, I mean, look, you've been
around obviously with your dad and your brother. You guys,
your whole life is football, is defensive football. And you know,
I draw the parallel to basketball in that the fundamental
aspect of it. Like, okay, he didn't spare him, but
so oftentimes guys have gotten away with poor poor form
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right like, he's not. I was taught at a really
young age in the early eighties, right like see which
you always see what you hit. There's a certain position
that you need to tackle and by launching yourself I didn't.
Does the play end up being dirty? Yeah? Um, but
it was simply avoidable if he used proper, fundamentally fundamental tactics.
It's just like basketball, Like dudes are so into hitting
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threes that they they and and overhandling the basketball. They
missed some of the finer elements, the fundamentals that catching
the jump, stopping the pivoting that that guys skip over.
Is that what more? What Kiko? Because Keiko was he
was hurtled earlier in the game on the same type
of play. Like it seems to me that yes, he's
a vicious hitter, but by launching himself, which bad form. Well,
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I mean, you know, I think, um, it's hard to
rule the intent of a guy, but clearly the rules
are you know, they've been in place now for a while.
And shoot back in the day, man, you used to
unload on these quarterbacks. But you can't do it anymore.
You've gotta be smarter, and that you're hurting your team.
Uh look, he lowered his shoulder, put his forearm in there.
I mean, it's not like he didn't mean to hit him.
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You know, if you're gonna if you're gonna go over him,
you're gonna go over him. You're not gonna lower your
you know, uh flipper and and hit him in the
chin with your or in the hear with your with
your forearm. I mean, you can miss if you want
to miss. I know, look he was there is that
fine line. Is he slighting or is he not? He
he went with it. He's not unloaded on him. But
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you know, you gotta know better than that. You know
that hurts the team. It hurt the player more, you
know more importantly. Right now, the league's doing everything they
can to protect quarterbacks. And it's usually because the you know,
the quarterbacks a star and the guy backing him up
to make a hundred thousand dollars. So you know, there's
a there's a huge difference there. And and look they're
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doing it all over they're doing it for the concussions. Uh,
you know, you can't hit a defensives player and shoot
people used to get their biggest hits, all all the
big hit reels. We're hitting defensives players. But uh, you know,
the game change that way, and uh, you know, you
don't have to like the rules, you just gotta play by.
You can hear Rob Ryan alongside Mark Willard every Sunday
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right here on Fox Sports Radio starting at one pm
Eastern Time, reacting live to all the NFL games. Uh,
Rob Ryan kind of have to spend some time of
this year on the Doug Gottlieb Show. All right, So
why the Dolphins have an offensive minded head coach? Right,
Gays is supposed to be this kind of offensive savant
um and on paper you have Landry who's a big
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time wide receiver. Uh, and know Matt Moore is is
the backup. As you said, there's a reason guys are
a backup. But he's been a productive quarterback. But they
haven't been productive no matter who their quarterback has been.
Why is Miami's offense um? Yeah, I think it's four
games they've been shut out in the first half. I
think that's a that's a crazy statistic because usually you're
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game planning, especially on offense. You've got your first twenty
year first fifteam, you know, and they're set to score,
you know, to attack what the defenses have shown to
be weaknesses, a weakness and a motion, you know, a
weakness on a certain coverage. I mean, that's what you're
supposed to attack. I mean I remember as a defensive coach,
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I always said, you know my plan, you know, I'm
just gonna be multiple. We had eight teen games in
a row we were never never a lot of a touchdown.
That was a record for the Browns, but then we
played the worst team the league who gave one up.
I was like, what the heck? But you I mean,
it's it's it's strange to have a head coach that's,
you know, that's an offensive minded guy to struggle this
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badly at the start of games. It makes no sense. Uh,
you know, unless he's you know, wearing himself then where
he's doing all the media and all that stuff, and
and it's and it's hurting his preparation. I mean that
that could be. Um, it's it's fasting. Watch. Let me
ask you about the Patriots. Obviously a defense in a
style and a coaching staff you know very very well. Um, look,
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I was it them or was the Falcons? Like, because
no one else had been shut down by the Patriots defense,
and then the Falcons seem to have a ton of weaponry.
I mean, is it have they just gotten better there
without two quarterbacks and they play statistically their best game
of the year. Is that the Patriots defense getting better
or just Atlanta's offense being anept I think it's the
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Patriot defense getting better. I think over the last three
weeks they've held the port opponents down. I know they've
given up a lot of yardage, but they haven't given
up a lot of points. And traditionally that's what Belichick
cares about. He doesn't care about yardage as as um
you know per se. He cares about keeping him out
of the end zone, playing great situational football. And lately
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they've been doing that on defense. I know it's been
without Steph Gilmore. Looks like they're making less mistakes. Uh,
it looks. It looks to me they're going back with
more coverage, more man demand coverage than uh than they
were earlier in the season. And uh, you know they've
had success with it. It was last week was was crazy.
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You've seen man coverage with a with a less cornerback, uh,
not a regular playing against Julio Jones and the slot.
But they're leaning the safety on them. But it's still
showing post safety defense there Russian five guys. You know.
That means they're leaning on top of Julio. It means
everybody else is one on one. But uh, they were
successful with it. They've been successful with doing that a lot.
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They ran the forty six front, which uh, which shoot,
I brought the New England a hundred years ago and uh,
you know, they've had a ton of success with that
in the past, and uh, you know, they're gonna have
to come up with more ways down at high towers out.
I think getting David Harris on the field will will
had a good veteran presence. He's he's a real smart player, uh,
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you know, and I think he'll put him in the middle,
move Van Noi back outside probably where he belongs, and
and they'll be just fine. Rob Ryan joining us in
the doug Otlip Show. What about the Saints another defense
that the last time they were any good, you were
you were down there, uh calling calling defensive signals. Um is.
I think they look great lately. You know, I think,
um really both sides of the ball. Uh, they've been excellent.
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They've they've they're sneaking up on people now and they've
they've won four straight. They look really good. They look
like an overall team and uh, you know, their pressuring
the quarterback a lot. Uh, they're you know, forcing people
to make mistakes and and uh uh you know, so
I think their schedule looks good for him too. So
I think that team is really gonna hit their stride
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right about now. And uh, look, they can string together
some wins. They've they've done it before. Uh, and with
Drew Brees at quarterback, I mean they could be a
real hard team to handle. You know, there's there's two
team teams who I think their defensive fronts don't get
enough mention and and one is the Eagles. And it's
not because I I think people don't respect the Eagles,
but because people are so infatuated with Carson Wentz that
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they're not pointing out how good their defensive front is.
The other would be the San Diego San Diego the
l A Chargers, who they go into England this week.
I mean, you have Bosa, you have Ingram. Those two
are animals getting after the quarterback. Am I wrong to
think that because of all the other stuff going on
in the NFL and our infatuation with quarterbacks and running
backs and skill position guys, that those those two fronts
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maybe kind of get get get lost in the wash. No,
those two are as good as there as there is.
I know they've got first round the Chargers at first
round tackles as well. So I mean they they you know,
should be a dominant front, and those ends are really
playing well. Uh. You know you gotta take your tip
your hat to the way Anthony Linz maib to get
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that team to respond after an old and four start
to keep playing. Now they've won three straight. Their defensives
playing lights out under gust Bradley and uh, you know,
so that's you know, that's great for them. But with
with Ingram and Bosa, even though they're they're best corner,
Barette is out. Uh, their defense is playing really well
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now and they're gonna have to be because, uh, you know,
if Brady knows, you better lie to Brady. Even as
good as your front as, you better be lying to him.
Make him read post snap or he's gonna light you up.
And that's the thing. Uh, you know, there's not a
lot of disguise on that defense, so it could be
a hard game for them. Uh. Talent wise, they've got
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everything you want, but you better be lying to that.
If you're not lying, you're not trying against Brady and
you're not gonna be successful. So that'll be an interesting game.
I think Philadelphia. Uh they drafted a kid from Tennessee Barnett,
who's who's really helped them. Uh, They've added other guys,
They've they've got Curry still in there in the course
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with Fletcher Cox getting healthy. Uh, there is dominant of
front as you can get to rush the passer. I
think the truth is going to be in the pudding.
As as the season gets on, those nine techniques always
get wider and wider, and eventually they don't slow up
the run. Right now, they're doing good playing the run,
but that that kind of wears on you as the
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season goes, and those wide nines usually get exposed by
the end of year. So to be interested in the
seat right now. Uh, with Wentz doing a fantastic job,
their defense playing well, Uh, the Eagles are really are
really playing good football. Rob Bryan, you can hear Sundays
here on Fox Sports Radio at one pm Eastern Time,
alongside side Mark Willard. Rob, thanks so much for joyce, Ben,
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enjoy the weekend. We love having you on. Alright, my friend,
I bet you really like that ball. Get out there
with the Lakers. I know a guy used to pass
the ball like that. I used to play at Oklahoma State.
Was pretty good player. Yeah, And honestly we shot We
shoot about the same too, So that's that There's there's
a lot of there's a lot of similarities there, Yeah, no,
I like, I like. I like guys that can dine
people up. Coach, thanks so much for doing it. Go
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I Heart Radio app. All of the pundits have declared JT.
Barrett better now right, the wide receivers are better, the
running backs are better. JT. Barrett is better? Or is he?
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I like, when did Rutgers suddenly become good? Let me
know when Maryland was a good team. Nebraska might well
fire Mike Riley. These are not ranked teams for a reason,
and it doesn't take a ton. Iowa State is ranked. Nebraska, Maryland,
Rutgers U and l v U and LV lost to
uh who they lose to week one of the season. God,
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who is it? They lost? It that they had? They
were like a forty point favorite on the in the
very first game of the season. Um, it was like
not McNee state Howard, it was Howard Howard right there,
forty point favorites and they lost. The point is this
I hear you, Ohio State. Anybody can lose a game
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and I'm all for the idea of the college fall
playoff is the best four teams at the end of
the year, not the best four teams at the start
of the year. Um. But this is a very big butt.
But alright, j T. Barrett having to do it against
Penn State is really really interesting to me. It just is.
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And you know, let me know when you do it
against a good team, let me know when you do
it against team that's not physically overmatched. Right, that's like
the big thing. Maryland was just physically overmatched U and
LV physically overmatched, Army physically overmatched, So we'll see. I mean,
it's it's also important to point out that that like
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j T. Barrett didn't even you know, like he didn't
even play against Army, right, or knows the UNV game.
Dwayne Haskins played in that game. So they've been just
completely and physically and utterly and sheerly dominant over their
last opponents. And they should be. And their favorite, Vegas
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is completely bought into this idea. Right that You've got
j K. Dobbins, You've got all that talent on offense,
all that talent on defense. O. How the States should win,
should win going away, and all Penn State has has
been sorely thrown a deep and say Kwan Barkley making plays.
But let me know when when JT. Barrett does against
a good team. And this is a really good team.
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This is the Penn State team that has a ton
of talent. They've played in a bunch of big games,
and they're coming off a weekend in which they played
great football against Michigan. So forgive me if and I
know the numbers are ridiculous this year. You know JT.
Barrett's numbers twenty one touchdowns, one interception, twenty one touchdowns,
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one interception. The problem with that is those of us
who watched him against Indiana, those of us who watched
him against Oklahoma, like, it's hard to get that out
of our brain that he was nineteen of thirty three
that was his one interception, no touchdowns. He has been
spectacular Nebraska game five touchdowns, no interceptions, twenty seven and
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thirty three spectacular. But let's see what he actually does
against the team with a number by their name. Be
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welcome in Matt Holiday, seven time All Star, four time
Silver slugger who joined us on the Doug Gottlip Show.
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How much carryover do you think Game two has to
Game three? You know? I think the one thing I
think I'm not necessarily think that affects Kim Lee Janson
as much as that I think it affects the consonance
of the Astronauts. I think that all of a sudden,
um when they come into face Kim M Janson, it's
not as daunting as it may have been where he
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had some success and you've had a few getters now
that it has had some bats and one of them
have taken a deep and all of a sudden, you know,
you've got to a bullpen and you feel like where
maybe the confidence of coming back if you say you're
down a run or two in Game three or four,
I think that the Astros have a little bit more confidence,
maybe a little more juice in the dugout about their
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chances as they would have that not happened. I don't
think Kiley Jansen will be necessarily affected by it as much,
but I do think it helps as a as a team,
you feel better about yourself going into the next same situation. Um. Yeah,
I mean, but you know, you factor in. The Astros
have played really really well at home, and you know,
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part of it is they're built for that, They're built
for the stadium. Part of it is a young team
just kind of energized. They keep the dome closed. What's
that you guys just played there when you're with with
the Yankees? What's that place like? Yeah, it's loud. I
think it helps when you've got Kaiko and Verylando Dolan.
That helps how good you are, which I think both
of them have have pitched, um, you know, several times
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in their own ballpark, which both of them pitched really well,
and their home ballpark. So um, I think it's loud. Um,
I don't know that it's it's anymore loud than the
Dodger Stadium. I've played playoff games at Dodgers Stadium when
we're super loud, and I was played game games in
San Francisco and St. Louis and and I think it's nothing.
I don't. I don't think it's as anything much greater
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than than than the atmosphere they'll have in l A
so I don't I don't suspect that that that necessarily
will having a factor. I mean, sure the young team
will thrive, young ass team thrive off off the crowd
and and uh seem a little bit more animated and
when they play at home, But I don't think it's
something one of the Dodgers will go in there and
see something that they're not used to either. Springer had
been struggling mightily, and of course he was a huge
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part of the reason they won in Game three. Did
you see anything different or simply kind of finding his rhythm?
You know, I thought when there was a man on
second and he hits a home round and right said,
I thought that was a good sign whether or not
he was trying to get the runner over. A lot
of times when you have a plan, so if a
man on turkend and it's a big run, you want
to do everything. You can't hit the ball at rights
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on the field. And I think for him that he's
become a little bit pool happy. Was coming off some balls,
and then the postseason that I've watched them at the bats,
it looks like, you know, the balls he's falling straight
tuning straight back balls that he can handle and then
handle during the regular season. It looks at me like
his front side was coming off of him and he
was trying to pull them five hundred feet where he
has the kind of power, Um he doesn't need, did
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pull it, and so it looked to me like I I
keep stayed on that ball, but he hit out to
right center better, maybe thinking to get the guy over.
You know, I gotta hit the battle the right side
a lot of times. As for us as by hand hitters, Um,
that gets us back to where we should be. If
we think the off gap, it keeps our my front
side on the ball, and then it allows our swing
to work in the strike zone longer. And I think
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that might help him going forward if it stays with
that approach and trying to hit the ball U to
the off gap, it'll it'll keep him, UM, keep him
on a little better, all right, help me out with
Lansman colors. Um. The stat is that his last pitches
against you guys were all curveballs. All curveballs. Uh, what
about his curveball is so difficult to hit? You know,
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I think people say curveball, and it's easy to say curveball,
and you think why can't you hit a curveball you
know it's coming. Well, his curveball is ninety So not
only does he combine a tremendous break, but it's got
velocity on it that is unlike you know, the curveballs
in the Major League. Like, he's put on a curveball
at a velocity that it was pretty much an average
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fastball five ten years ago. So I think the combination
of speed and and the sharpness of the break that
he's able to get whether you want to call it
spin rate or whatever. Um, you know, the new metrics are.
I think his spin rates crazy high. And then you
combine it, like I said, with with the velocity and
then the ability that that you know that he's got
ninety six in the tank. Um, so you have to
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honor the fastball a little bit. But I think at
this point, um, you don't have to honor it quite
as much, and maybe you just stick curveball and try
to and trying to you know, I think hitting it
the other way and trying to stay on it is
your best bet. Um. But you know he's gonna throw it,
He's gonna for a little lot, and it doesn't make
it easier to hit that the fact that you know
it's coming other than um, you know you can go
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up there and with an approach that that you're gonna
see you know, one, two or three of them. So, um,
it's it's it's a it's a different curveball than than
you know when people just you know, throw out the
word curveball. His is uh is not like most. Okay,
so we don't have this on a Joe Boo situation.
Don't need the hats four bats this this is a nine.
Maybe the bat hats do need bats. Um, look, you
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Darvis has been really good, but he was now he
was with the Rangers. He hasn't how much have you
seen you? I faced him this year. I think it
was the first and only time we faced him this
year in the stadium. Um, he's got great stuff, I
tell you, you know, his stuff, especially um you know
lately in important games where his velocity spiked back up
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into that mid upper nineties. Um area you know, makes
us slow it that much more difficult. And he's got
the really slow curveball that he can use this change
of pace. But um, I think he's he's got as
good as stuff as as you know anybody but I
think they advantage the Astros do have in that situation
is that they've faced him a lot in the last
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couple of years of having him in the division, so
they know what to expect him and they've seen it,
and I think all of them will have a plan
going in. Um, you know then experience that they have
and faced them. You mentioned that the place is loud,
that it's but it's not crazy loud. But you've also
told me that, you know, look down the line, Uh,
it's not you know, it's not. The ball kind of
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flies out of this place. Um. Again, you know it's
it's smart to point out sometimes it's who who the
Astros have on the hill. But um, it also feels
like the Dodgers could benefit they hit the ball out
of the yard a lot to like it. It feels
like this this sets up well for them, not just
the ballpark, but also the fact that they're going, uh
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they're going against their third and fourth starters instead of
going against their first and second start. Sure. Yeah, and
I think it's it's a hitter spark. I mean it's
a you know, other than dead center field and and
maybe slightly to the right center, um, which are a
fair and and maybe slightly to the favor of the picture. Um.
You know, right field left field lines um are are
very very hit or family, and if you get the
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ball elevated to left field, even if you get jammed
a little bit a little bit off the gin um,
there's the pencil for for some cheap home runs and
even to right field down the line. There's some balls
hit in our series that I didn't think we're home
runs and ended up going on the set. So um,
I think it's it's it's like you said, they're facing
the three and four starters in the first two games,
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so I think the getters whill have well have solid
offensive game. I don't think it's I look for some
runs to be scored for sure, and interested to see,
you know, their approach against all the breaking balls from
the Colors, and then you know Morton his heavy sinker. Matt.
Let's appreciate you join us. Uh, gonna be a wild
night in Houston. And thanks so much for the analysis
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and preppudence for what we're going to see here in
Game three. All right, man, Thanks
This is the best of the Dog Got Leap Show
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Fox Sports Radio coming to you, live and direct from
the City of Angels, where we, like all of you,
are waiting for Fox's coverage Game three of the World
Series tonight live from Houston. But uh, Houston, I mean, look,
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I I struggle sometimes with this idea that that city championship,
state championships somehow bring peace to people who have been
whose lives have been changed forever by natural disasters or
or man made disasters, either one. Houston has been through
a lot, and the baseball team was playing and is
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trying to win their first championship for the city. I
don't know if that, I don't That doesn't fix anybody's home.
That doesn't that might perk their spirits up for a moment.
But Houston is kind of the epicenter of a story
that broke earlier today in which ESPN dot Com detailed
the behind the scenes workings, behind the scenes workings of
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that remember that the owners meetings, the league meetings, going
back what it's like a week and a half ago
in New York City, in which some players came in
and met with the owners, but they were also owner
only meetings, some attended by all the owners, some attended
by uh, groups of owners and owner representatives. And and
in that what people are doing is what we'll look.
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We're bastardizing every story. That's what we do. And DeAndre
Hopkins sadly is falling, uh, falling to the falling to
the headline, like so many of us do. I'm not
sure what I'm bothered by more the fact that people misunderstand,
misunderstand a commonly used expression or phrase, or the fact
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that really smart people can misstate a commonly used expression
or face. Because that's really what happened. Bob mcnare is
the owner of the Houston Texans. I've never heard him
called a racist ever before. Um, and of course people
are going to say that what he said was racially
insensitive on some levels, because you have black players in
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the NFL and some white payers protesting police brutality, some protesting, uh,
some protesting simply what the president has said. The President
has done like a protest to the anti protest protest
protest right, and uh uh, it's left with with this
confusing thing. So here's what Bob McNair said, and the
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quote is, um, we can't have the inmates running the prison.
Now here's the first thing, bobc neare misused. It's really
frustrating to me. I'm I'm not gonna sit here and
walk around say'mlementum embroum smarter than people. But I do
know that unless you know the expression, don't use the expression.
And if you have really good friends, they should tell you, like, hey,
do this another way to use that. Okay, it's inmates
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can't run the asylum. The asylum, oh, the asylum, which
actually doesn't make sense because if it's an insane insane asylum,
they're not actually I mean, if it's insane, asylum is
actually a word for prison. But insane asylum is generally
what inmates can't run the asylum. You could, you could
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have gone, which we have too many chiefs in that
nevia and he is well, oh wait, that expression that
would be insensitive to Native Americans, even though um we
misidentified Native Americans as Indians. This is going back hundreds
of years ago. Um boy, this is a tough one.
Ah yeah, but I think we actually know what Bob
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McNair is talking about. And that's the crazy part about it. Yes,
he probably should. It's a miss missed. You shouldn't have
said prison because now it's like, oh, well, you're talking
about black guys, you're talking about cops, are talking about prison,
and DeAndre Hopkins obviously is I'm just gonna be blunt.
He's not smart enough to understand the nuance of what
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he said. But it's it's true in my profession, and
I'm guessing it's true in your profession. That though employees
can can band together and say like, hey, look we
we have a part of this company. Um, we want
to be part of your future. But this is the way,
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this is how we would It was some of the
things we like enacted, but demanding a course of action,
demanding the ability to protest, and not having the wherewithal
the understanding of all the things going on in the business.
That's classic employee stuff, right, classic employee stuff. Richard Branson,
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I believe you can you work for Virgin like you're
gonna take sick days. You can take off whatever you want.
You know, I'm no limit to sick days, no limit
to whatever. Now it works in some fields. The problem
is on there's a multitude levels. One is a collective
bartin agreement, so the workforce has negotiated with ownership in
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the past and that. But the bigger thing is if
you actually read the article, and it's a long article,
this is the Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. If
you actually read, there's a lot of stuff out there.
There are a lot of pitfalls in the business of
the National Football League. And while players simply think there's
like everybody thinks in linear fashion, everything's cause effect, cause effect,
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because that's that's what we're told. Because that's was really
really easy. It's really really easy to think that way
that I do something, it's going to cause this thing,
and if I protest this thing, it could cause a
disruption within the business, which will cause what I want
to happen to happen. That's great. There's a lot of
other stuff. Look um, people have predicted dooming gloom for
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the NFL, and I don't know whether they're right right
now out but I think, uh, there there is some
foresight there from the Mark Cubans of the world. The
protest is only a small fraction of the issues that
the NFL is working on. The head of a fox,
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a pet of Foxes said, like, hey, look, the reason
for the ratings decline is frankly because there's a proliferation
of NFL on TV. It's the same thing that happened
to college basketball. In college football, there's nothing special about
a nationally televised NFL game. There was one on last night.
Did you watch it? You might have? You turned on
You're like, oh, Matt Moore Hill Ravens. The Ravens aren't
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even any good and the Dolphins could do nothing with
the Ravens, Like the most interesting thing. The most interesting
thing is our discussion over Kiko Alonso's dirty hit on
Joe Flaco. And it was dirty. Whether it was an
intentionally dirty hit or not, whether it was a planned
dirty act or not. But it's dirty. You launch yourself
your head and then eventually your shoulder hits a quarter
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at who's sliding, especially one that's six ft six and
you're a guy that's launched yourself earlier in the game.
It's a dirty play. There's no way around it. But
even players that come out and defend it, they don't
understand all of the other things working against you. Look,
let me let me lay out the issues for the NFL.
First of all ratings are down. Why there's a bunch
of reasons. The first thing is that football has always
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been a sport incredibly dangerous when you and I were kids,
at least when I was a kid, Romos was a kid.
Music is a little bit younger. I mean he he
just graduated high school. Um. When when we were kids,
it was hard to get your mom to sign the
permission slip because people worried about being paralyzed and what
about your knees and your back right, And of course
we still have stories of kids yearly being paralyzed by football,
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but we don't even talk about anymore because now we've
discovered that that's only part of what football will do
to you. It can It gives the brain sales. Son.
Wasn't that what Morgan Freeman said? And was it standby stand,
do the right thing, no and not do the um uh,
Lena me lean on me right? Remember he was Joe Clark,
the principal in d C. Right kills brain sales, don Right,
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that's what football kills, brain cells. You have former stars
killing themselves, former stars who are incapacitated, and football is
at least partially to blame. So you're gonna have a
declining number of young kids wanting to play football. You
have a declined number of parents who want to let
their kids play tackle football. Heck, even Drew Brees that
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started a new flag football league because he doesn't believe
people should play tackle football until they get to high
school age. You have declining numbers and participation, so you're
not gonna be able to refill with the top level athletes. Uh,
you don't have the field good feelings from former players
because so many of them their bodies are mangled and
now their brains are too. TV numbers are down partially
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because of that, partially because look, it's on every night.
It's not all that special, right, It's just not um
And when the numbers are down, then all of a sudden,
the sponsors start to go like, hey, wait, look, you
promised me X for ratings and I'm getting X minus
one and X minus three, so I want some of
my money back. And then the country is being at
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least partially divided, some by the president, but often by
how the protests are viewed. And so what Bogging McNair
is saying in not so many words and not using
the expression the cliche accurately is Hey, players can't tell
us what's good for our business. We are businessmen, you know.
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The last thing is and this is really important some
owners and this is NBA, this is Major League Baseball,
this is NFL. Like Look, Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys
for I don't know, it's like a hundred and fifty
d and sixty million dollars. It's worth like four billion dollars.
So he got in when prices were low. He's put
a bunch of money into the stadium, and he's been
rewarded as such. I mean, he can sit there and
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anytime he needs he needs money, he can cash in
on the equity of his football team. But that's not
the way it is for everybody. A lot of a
lot of owners spent a lot of money and lose
money on a daily basis only to make money in
the value of the team and then don't want to
sell that. I don't why do I have to sell
this business. I want to make money on my business.
But it's hard. It's competitive. You're competing with baseball. You
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can bet with basketball, NBA's hot, you compete with college sports,
you're competing with MLS, You're competing all of the same dollars. Hey,
here's another thing, Like the TV product is so good,
it's really hard to get people. Why would you go
to an NFL game? Have you ever gone? It's terrible.
You can't watch the other games. What if your game sucks?
And if your game is good, you gotta you gotta
fight traffic, you gotta pay for parking. Then you gotta
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decide to get there early. Remember, if it's a Sunday, like,
that's a family day. Now you gotta beg your wife.
Do you want to bring your wife and kids? And
if you bring your wife and kids, now it's kind
of a guy event, not everybody. You know, you can't
really select the clientele you're around. You think you're priced
out of the ruffians, but they're still They're like the
whole thing. So stadiums aren't full because it's nothing special
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about the NFL game. So you're dealing with declining attendance
to climbing ratings. Uh, sponsors who want Hey, hey, I
want to make goods on these deals here and oh yeah,
by the way, we got protests going on, So listen.
DeAndre Hopkins and NFL players, I respect you, like look
you've got issues, and I I I fully even if
he said I'm fully respectful of wanting to curb I
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wanted to curb police brutality. Who doesn't. Who doesn't. That's
not good for anybody's business, not good for your city,
it's not good for tourism, not good for home values
or franchise values. It's not But the inmates can't run
the asylum, the prison, the football team. And if you're
bothered by the use of the word inmates, sorry, that's
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a U problem. You don't understand the expression. Well, you
come up to speed on the expression. I'll fill you
in on the business acumen that you don't have. I mean, like,
look look around the NFL. Odell Beckham Jr. Out for
the year. You think that helps the chat? I just
think that helps business. Aaron Rodgers probably out for the year.
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I think that helps business. J. J. Watt out for
the year. Like the most popular NFL player who's cashed
in his positive equity to raise thirty seven million dollars
for hurricane relief, Like that, dude's not playing. These guys
are made out to be heroes and they are celebrated
as such, and they're not playing. That's all gonna hurt business.
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So I'm not saying your protests aren't important to you.
But I mean even if you say, don't bite the
hand that feeds you. Oh oh so, now so now
you're I'm just a dog and you're just Yeah, listen, dude,
these are expressions. These are expressions. This is the way
it works in business. And if you don't respect and
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appreciate that there's a lot of other stuff, there's a
lot of other things at play, then then I can't really,
I can't really help you. Be sure to catch live
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I Heart Radio app. Let's welcome and he's a two
time Super Bowl champion. He's Rob Ryan. He joined us.
He's a Fox NFL analyst and um, Rob, last night
we're watching um not great football. Thursday football have been
good the past couple of weeks. It was not great
last night. I think the big the big question is
from a defensive guy's perspective, what's your take on the
Kiko Alonso hit? Well, I think clearly, you know, once
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guy's on the runs, he's trying to get the first down,
but he's going into a slide. You can't do that.
And uh, you know, hey, look there's a fine line
between right and wrong. But he knows he was wrong,
and he's done that before, but uh, you know, you
can't do that the games right now, the rules are
to protect the quarterback. And and I was shocked there
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wasn't more fouls called on that play. You know what
what's interesting about it is, I mean, look, you've been
around obviously with your dad and your brother. You guys,
your whole life is football, is defensive football. And you know,
I draw the parallel to basketball in that the fundamental
aspect of it. Like, okay, he didn't spare him, but
so oftentimes guys have gotten away with poor poor form
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right like, he's not. I was taught at a really
young age in the early eighties, right like see which
you always see what you hit. There's a certain position
that you need to tackle and by launching yourself I didn't.
Does the play end up being dirty? Yeah? Um, but
it was simply avoidable if he used proper, fundamentally fundamental tactics.
It's just like basketball, Like dudes are so into hitting
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threes that they they and and overhandling the basketball. They
missed some of the finer elements, the fundamentals that catching
the jump, stopping the pivoting that that guys skip over.
Is that what more? What Kiko? Because Keiko was he
was hurtled earlier in the game on the same type
of play. Like it seems to me that yes, he's
a vicious hitter, but by launching himself, which bad form. Well,
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I mean, you know, I think, um, it's hard to
rule the intent of a guy, but clearly the rules
are you know, they've been in place now for a while.
And shoot back in the day, man, you used to
unload on these quarterbacks. But you can't do it anymore.
You've gotta be smarter, and that you're hurting your team.
Uh look, he lowered his shoulder, put his forearm in there.
I mean, it's not like he didn't mean to hit him.
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You know, if you're gonna if you're gonna go over him,
you're gonna go over him. You're not gonna lower your
you know, uh flipper and and hit him in the
chin with your or in the hear with your with
your forearm. I mean, you can miss if you want
to miss. I know, look he was there is that
fine line. Is he slighting or is he not? He
he went with it. He's not unloaded on him. But
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you know, you gotta know better than that. You know
that hurts the team. It hurt the player more, you
know more importantly. Right now, the league's doing everything they
can to protect quarterbacks. And it's usually because the you know,
the quarterbacks a star and the guy backing him up
to make a hundred thousand dollars. So you know, there's
a there's a huge difference there. And and look they're
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doing it all over they're doing it for the concussions. Uh,
you know, you can't hit a defensives player and shoot
people used to get their biggest hits, all all the
big hit reels. We're hitting defensives players. But uh, you know,
the game change that way, and uh, you know, you
don't have to like the rules, you just gotta play by.
You can hear Rob Ryan alongside Mark Willard every Sunday
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right here on Fox Sports Radio starting at one pm
Eastern Time, reacting live to all the NFL games. Uh,
Rob Ryan kind of have to spend some time of
this year on the Doug Gottlieb Show. All right, So
why the Dolphins have an offensive minded head coach? Right,
Gays is supposed to be this kind of offensive savant
um and on paper you have Landry who's a big
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time wide receiver. Uh, and know Matt Moore is is
the backup. As you said, there's a reason guys are
a backup. But he's been a productive quarterback. But they
haven't been productive no matter who their quarterback has been.
Why is Miami's offense um? Yeah, I think it's four
games they've been shut out in the first half. I
think that's a that's a crazy statistic because usually you're
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game planning, especially on offense. You've got your first twenty
year first fifteam, you know, and they're set to score,
you know, to attack what the defenses have shown to
be weaknesses, a weakness and a motion, you know, a
weakness on a certain coverage. I mean, that's what you're
supposed to attack. I mean I remember as a defensive coach,
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I always said, you know my plan, you know, I'm
just gonna be multiple. We had eight teen games in
a row we were never never a lot of a touchdown.
That was a record for the Browns, but then we
played the worst team the league who gave one up.
I was like, what the heck? But you I mean,
it's it's it's strange to have a head coach that's,
you know, that's an offensive minded guy to struggle this
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badly at the start of games. It makes no sense. Uh,
you know, unless he's you know, wearing himself then where
he's doing all the media and all that stuff, and
and it's and it's hurting his preparation. I mean that
that could be. Um, it's it's fasting. Watch. Let me
ask you about the Patriots. Obviously a defense in a
style and a coaching staff you know very very well. Um, look,
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I was it them or was the Falcons? Like, because
no one else had been shut down by the Patriots defense,
and then the Falcons seem to have a ton of weaponry.
I mean, is it have they just gotten better there
without two quarterbacks and they play statistically their best game
of the year. Is that the Patriots defense getting better
or just Atlanta's offense being anept I think it's the
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Patriot defense getting better. I think over the last three
weeks they've held the port opponents down. I know they've
given up a lot of yardage, but they haven't given
up a lot of points. And traditionally that's what Belichick
cares about. He doesn't care about yardage as as um
you know per se. He cares about keeping him out
of the end zone, playing great situational football. And lately
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they've been doing that on defense. I know it's been
without Steph Gilmore. Looks like they're making less mistakes. Uh,
it looks. It looks to me they're going back with
more coverage, more man demand coverage than uh than they
were earlier in the season. And uh, you know they've
had success with it. It was last week was was crazy.
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You've seen man coverage with a with a less cornerback, uh,
not a regular playing against Julio Jones and the slot.
But they're leaning the safety on them. But it's still
showing post safety defense there Russian five guys. You know.
That means they're leaning on top of Julio. It means
everybody else is one on one. But uh, they were
successful with it. They've been successful with doing that a lot.
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They ran the forty six front, which uh, which shoot,
I brought the New England a hundred years ago and uh,
you know, they've had a ton of success with that
in the past, and uh, you know, they're gonna have
to come up with more ways down at high towers out.
I think getting David Harris on the field will will
had a good veteran presence. He's he's a real smart player, uh,
(20:04):
you know, and I think he'll put him in the middle,
move Van Noi back outside probably where he belongs, and
and they'll be just fine. Rob Ryan joining us in
the doug Otlip Show. What about the Saints another defense
that the last time they were any good, you were
you were down there, uh calling calling defensive signals. Um is.
I think they look great lately. You know, I think,
um really both sides of the ball. Uh, they've been excellent.
(20:28):
They've they've they're sneaking up on people now and they've
they've won four straight. They look really good. They look
like an overall team and uh, you know, their pressuring
the quarterback a lot. Uh, they're you know, forcing people
to make mistakes and and uh uh you know, so
I think their schedule looks good for him too. So
I think that team is really gonna hit their stride
(20:48):
right about now. And uh, look, they can string together
some wins. They've they've done it before. Uh, and with
Drew Brees at quarterback, I mean they could be a
real hard team to handle. You know, there's there's two
team teams who I think their defensive fronts don't get
enough mention and and one is the Eagles. And it's
not because I I think people don't respect the Eagles,
but because people are so infatuated with Carson Wentz that
(21:10):
they're not pointing out how good their defensive front is.
The other would be the San Diego San Diego the
l A Chargers, who they go into England this week.
I mean, you have Bosa, you have Ingram. Those two
are animals getting after the quarterback. Am I wrong to
think that because of all the other stuff going on
in the NFL and our infatuation with quarterbacks and running
backs and skill position guys, that those those two fronts
(21:32):
maybe kind of get get get lost in the wash. No,
those two are as good as there as there is.
I know they've got first round the Chargers at first
round tackles as well. So I mean they they you know,
should be a dominant front, and those ends are really
playing well. Uh. You know you gotta take your tip
your hat to the way Anthony Linz maib to get
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that team to respond after an old and four start
to keep playing. Now they've won three straight. Their defensives
playing lights out under gust Bradley and uh, you know,
so that's you know, that's great for them. But with
with Ingram and Bosa, even though they're they're best corner,
Barette is out. Uh, their defense is playing really well
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now and they're gonna have to be because, uh, you know,
if Brady knows, you better lie to Brady. Even as
good as your front as, you better be lying to him.
Make him read post snap or he's gonna light you up.
And that's the thing. Uh, you know, there's not a
lot of disguise on that defense, so it could be
a hard game for them. Uh. Talent wise, they've got
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everything you want, but you better be lying to that.
If you're not lying, you're not trying against Brady and
you're not gonna be successful. So that'll be an interesting game.
I think Philadelphia. Uh they drafted a kid from Tennessee Barnett,
who's who's really helped them. Uh, They've added other guys,
They've they've got Curry still in there in the course
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with Fletcher Cox getting healthy. Uh, there is dominant of
front as you can get to rush the passer. I
think the truth is going to be in the pudding.
As as the season gets on, those nine techniques always
get wider and wider, and eventually they don't slow up
the run. Right now, they're doing good playing the run,
but that that kind of wears on you as the
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season goes, and those wide nines usually get exposed by
the end of year. So to be interested in the
seat right now. Uh, with Wentz doing a fantastic job,
their defense playing well, Uh, the Eagles are really are
really playing good football. Rob Bryan, you can hear Sundays
here on Fox Sports Radio at one pm Eastern Time,
alongside side Mark Willard. Rob, thanks so much for joyce, Ben,
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enjoy the weekend. We love having you on. Alright, my friend,
I bet you really like that ball. Get out there
with the Lakers. I know a guy used to pass
the ball like that. I used to play at Oklahoma State.
Was pretty good player. Yeah, And honestly we shot We
shoot about the same too, So that's that There's there's
a lot of there's a lot of similarities there, Yeah, no,
I like, I like. I like guys that can dine
people up. Coach, thanks so much for doing it. Go
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all right, you take. Fox Sports Radio has the best
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I Heart Radio app. All of the pundits have declared JT.
Barrett better now right, the wide receivers are better, the
running backs are better. JT. Barrett is better? Or is he?
(24:21):
I like, when did Rutgers suddenly become good? Let me
know when Maryland was a good team. Nebraska might well
fire Mike Riley. These are not ranked teams for a reason,
and it doesn't take a ton. Iowa State is ranked. Nebraska, Maryland,
Rutgers U and l v U and LV lost to
uh who they lose to week one of the season. God,
(24:42):
who is it? They lost? It that they had? They
were like a forty point favorite on the in the
very first game of the season. Um, it was like
not McNee state Howard, it was Howard Howard right there,
forty point favorites and they lost. The point is this
I hear you, Ohio State. Anybody can lose a game
(25:03):
and I'm all for the idea of the college fall
playoff is the best four teams at the end of
the year, not the best four teams at the start
of the year. Um. But this is a very big butt.
But alright, j T. Barrett having to do it against
Penn State is really really interesting to me. It just is.
(25:23):
And you know, let me know when you do it
against a good team, let me know when you do
it against team that's not physically overmatched. Right, that's like
the big thing. Maryland was just physically overmatched U and
LV physically overmatched, Army physically overmatched, So we'll see. I mean,
it's it's also important to point out that that like
(25:48):
j T. Barrett didn't even you know, like he didn't
even play against Army, right, or knows the UNV game.
Dwayne Haskins played in that game. So they've been just
completely and physically and utterly and sheerly dominant over their
last opponents. And they should be. And their favorite, Vegas
(26:08):
is completely bought into this idea. Right that You've got
j K. Dobbins, You've got all that talent on offense,
all that talent on defense. O. How the States should win,
should win going away, and all Penn State has has
been sorely thrown a deep and say Kwan Barkley making plays.
But let me know when when JT. Barrett does against
a good team. And this is a really good team.
(26:29):
This is the Penn State team that has a ton
of talent. They've played in a bunch of big games,
and they're coming off a weekend in which they played
great football against Michigan. So forgive me if and I
know the numbers are ridiculous this year. You know JT.
Barrett's numbers twenty one touchdowns, one interception, twenty one touchdowns,
(26:50):
one interception. The problem with that is those of us
who watched him against Indiana, those of us who watched
him against Oklahoma, like, it's hard to get that out
of our brain that he was nineteen of thirty three
that was his one interception, no touchdowns. He has been
spectacular Nebraska game five touchdowns, no interceptions, twenty seven and
(27:12):
thirty three spectacular. But let's see what he actually does
against the team with a number by their name. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Let's
welcome in Matt Holiday, seven time All Star, four time
Silver slugger who joined us on the Doug Gottlip Show.
(27:34):
How much carryover do you think Game two has to
Game three? You know? I think the one thing I
think I'm not necessarily think that affects Kim Lee Janson
as much as that I think it affects the consonance
of the Astronauts. I think that all of a sudden,
um when they come into face Kim M Janson, it's
not as daunting as it may have been where he
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had some success and you've had a few getters now
that it has had some bats and one of them
have taken a deep and all of a sudden, you know,
you've got to a bullpen and you feel like where
maybe the confidence of coming back if you say you're
down a run or two in Game three or four,
I think that the Astros have a little bit more confidence,
maybe a little more juice in the dugout about their
(28:16):
chances as they would have that not happened. I don't
think Kiley Jansen will be necessarily affected by it as much,
but I do think it helps as a as a team,
you feel better about yourself going into the next same situation. Um. Yeah,
I mean, but you know, you factor in. The Astros
have played really really well at home, and you know,
(28:38):
part of it is they're built for that, They're built
for the stadium. Part of it is a young team
just kind of energized. They keep the dome closed. What's
that you guys just played there when you're with with
the Yankees? What's that place like? Yeah, it's loud. I
think it helps when you've got Kaiko and Verylando Dolan.
That helps how good you are, which I think both
of them have have pitched, um, you know, several times
(28:59):
in their own ballpark, which both of them pitched really well,
and their home ballpark. So um, I think it's loud. Um,
I don't know that it's it's anymore loud than the
Dodger Stadium. I've played playoff games at Dodgers Stadium when
we're super loud, and I was played game games in
San Francisco and St. Louis and and I think it's nothing.
I don't. I don't think it's as anything much greater
(29:22):
than than than the atmosphere they'll have in l A
so I don't I don't suspect that that that necessarily
will having a factor. I mean, sure the young team
will thrive, young ass team thrive off off the crowd
and and uh seem a little bit more animated and
when they play at home, But I don't think it's
something one of the Dodgers will go in there and
see something that they're not used to either. Springer had
been struggling mightily, and of course he was a huge
(29:46):
part of the reason they won in Game three. Did
you see anything different or simply kind of finding his rhythm?
You know, I thought when there was a man on
second and he hits a home round and right said,
I thought that was a good sign whether or not
he was trying to get the runner over. A lot
of times when you have a plan, so if a
man on turkend and it's a big run, you want
to do everything. You can't hit the ball at rights
(30:06):
on the field. And I think for him that he's
become a little bit pool happy. Was coming off some balls,
and then the postseason that I've watched them at the bats,
it looks like, you know, the balls he's falling straight
tuning straight back balls that he can handle and then
handle during the regular season. It looks at me like
his front side was coming off of him and he
was trying to pull them five hundred feet where he
has the kind of power, Um he doesn't need, did
(30:28):
pull it, and so it looked to me like I I
keep stayed on that ball, but he hit out to
right center better, maybe thinking to get the guy over.
You know, I gotta hit the battle the right side
a lot of times. As for us as by hand hitters, Um,
that gets us back to where we should be. If
we think the off gap, it keeps our my front
side on the ball, and then it allows our swing
to work in the strike zone longer. And I think
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that might help him going forward if it stays with
that approach and trying to hit the ball U to
the off gap, it'll it'll keep him, UM, keep him
on a little better, all right, help me out with
Lansman colors. Um. The stat is that his last pitches
against you guys were all curveballs. All curveballs. Uh, what
about his curveball is so difficult to hit? You know,
(31:09):
I think people say curveball, and it's easy to say curveball,
and you think why can't you hit a curveball you
know it's coming. Well, his curveball is ninety So not
only does he combine a tremendous break, but it's got
velocity on it that is unlike you know, the curveballs
in the Major League. Like, he's put on a curveball
at a velocity that it was pretty much an average
(31:30):
fastball five ten years ago. So I think the combination
of speed and and the sharpness of the break that
he's able to get whether you want to call it
spin rate or whatever. Um, you know, the new metrics are.
I think his spin rates crazy high. And then you
combine it, like I said, with with the velocity and
then the ability that that you know that he's got
ninety six in the tank. Um, so you have to
(31:52):
honor the fastball a little bit. But I think at
this point, um, you don't have to honor it quite
as much, and maybe you just stick curveball and try
to and trying to you know, I think hitting it
the other way and trying to stay on it is
your best bet. Um. But you know he's gonna throw it,
He's gonna for a little lot, and it doesn't make
it easier to hit that the fact that you know
it's coming other than um, you know you can go
(32:14):
up there and with an approach that that you're gonna
see you know, one, two or three of them. So, um,
it's it's it's a it's a different curveball than than
you know when people just you know, throw out the
word curveball. His is uh is not like most. Okay,
so we don't have this on a Joe Boo situation.
Don't need the hats four bats this this is a nine.
Maybe the bat hats do need bats. Um, look, you
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Darvis has been really good, but he was now he
was with the Rangers. He hasn't how much have you
seen you? I faced him this year. I think it
was the first and only time we faced him this
year in the stadium. Um, he's got great stuff, I
tell you, you know, his stuff, especially um you know
lately in important games where his velocity spiked back up
(32:56):
into that mid upper nineties. Um area you know, makes
us slow it that much more difficult. And he's got
the really slow curveball that he can use this change
of pace. But um, I think he's he's got as
good as stuff as as you know anybody but I
think they advantage the Astros do have in that situation
is that they've faced him a lot in the last
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couple of years of having him in the division, so
they know what to expect him and they've seen it,
and I think all of them will have a plan
going in. Um, you know then experience that they have
and faced them. You mentioned that the place is loud,
that it's but it's not crazy loud. But you've also
told me that, you know, look down the line, Uh,
it's not you know, it's not. The ball kind of
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flies out of this place. Um. Again, you know it's
it's smart to point out sometimes it's who who the
Astros have on the hill. But um, it also feels
like the Dodgers could benefit they hit the ball out
of the yard a lot to like it. It feels
like this this sets up well for them, not just
the ballpark, but also the fact that they're going, uh
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they're going against their third and fourth starters instead of
going against their first and second start. Sure. Yeah, and
I think it's it's a hitter spark. I mean it's
a you know, other than dead center field and and
maybe slightly to the right center, um, which are a
fair and and maybe slightly to the favor of the picture. Um.
You know, right field left field lines um are are
very very hit or family, and if you get the
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ball elevated to left field, even if you get jammed
a little bit a little bit off the gin um,
there's the pencil for for some cheap home runs and
even to right field down the line. There's some balls
hit in our series that I didn't think we're home
runs and ended up going on the set. So um,
I think it's it's it's like you said, they're facing
the three and four starters in the first two games,
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so I think the getters whill have well have solid
offensive game. I don't think it's I look for some
runs to be scored for sure, and interested to see,
you know, their approach against all the breaking balls from
the Colors, and then you know Morton his heavy sinker. Matt.
Let's appreciate you join us. Uh, gonna be a wild
night in Houston. And thanks so much for the analysis
(35:01):
and preppudence for what we're going to see here in
Game three. All right, man, Thanks
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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