June 19, 2017 • 45 mins
Doug explains why he thinks the trade between the Celtics and 76ers works out for both teams. He argues the Lakers should wait for Paul George to become a free agent rather than waste assets by trying to trade for him. He talks NBA Insider for FOX Sports Chris Broussard who tells him if Paul George to the Cavaliers is a real possibility or not.
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This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America? Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio, Live from the City of Angels. We're
apparently Paul George is coming to this year next year.
Who don't want to move to l A. That's what happens, folks.
Gottlieb moves to l A. Paul George says, I'm in
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Russell Westbrook. Next. Who who's coming? Huh? Who's coming? All
of a sudden, Lebron s sorry, like Lebron might come
to l A. You know what this is? Like? My
daughter is eleven years old. On Wednesday, she uh graduates
from fifth grade. I know it's a big momentous occasion.
I will not be missing us open for it, um
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and uh we name my daughter Harper. Harper, She's eleven
years old. You go back and look kind of historically
to all these lots of celebs have a Harper. They
are all under eleven years old. I just want to
point out Gottlieb is a trend setter, a trail blazer,
not a Portland trailblazer, just a general trailblazer. Welcome into
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the Doug Gottlieb Show. You can contact us a myriad
of ways. Here's one. Follow me on Twitter at Gottlieb Show.
You can call us eight seven seven six three six nine.
Brian Music were and I were just he's the producer.
We were just deciding whether or not we should hear
from you, and the answer is maybe maybe come call
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impress him and maybe you can impress upon me your opinions.
That's eight seven seven six three six nine UM. Or
you could just kind of mentally mental telepathy, try and
communicate with it. That one. I don't know if it
allas should go through, but you can think, you can
think of it. It It might happen. David David Gascon's in
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for Dan Buyer Um. Whether you listen to us on
Serious Channel eighty three or the I Heart app or
any of our myriad of affiliates, welcome in. I want
to get to Paul George and where he could potentially
go before he goes to the Lakers, and why the
Lakers should not do anything to go and get Paul George.
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But first a little in the US open Well that sucked.
I mean it, it sucked. It did. Just it wasn't
it wasn't bad. But it wasn't good, right, Brooks Captin
was awesome. You know. Dud's kind of yoked a little bit,
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got a nice smooch off of eighteen. But when you
start running off that number of birdies at the U
S O be like, wait, is this the US Open
or is this the Milwaukee Invitational? Right? It felt I
understand that they picked a course that had not yet
been challenged at this level and it didn't stand up
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even with the wind to normal US Open standards. Some
of them was helped out by the U S g A.
They wanted more scoring, but boy, that sucks. What is
this the eighth first time winner? And how many? How
many it was seventh first time winner and last eight majors?
Is that right? If not sounded good, you can quote
me and say Gottlip screwed it up on the radio.
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The point is this, fellas, we need some collusion, right.
We need you guys to get together. We need Rory.
We need speech or speef. Uh some of you might
come speef. We need Rory, We need speech. We need
DJ Ricky Fowler and a Brooks Kepka. We need an
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epic battle of all the young guns. All right, that's
what we need. That's what it will bring you back
to golf. Otherwise it's it's background music or background noise
to a discussion on Father's Day. That's what it is.
I thought the technology on Fox Sports one was fantastic.
I could follow the shot tracer was outstanding. Oh look
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all right, left. I thought it was outstanding. Thought it
was a good watch. Um, it looked like every green
was the same. Everything was a table top to which
if you missed, it just fell off. But outside of that,
that was really boring. And when you have a window
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like like yesterday, where nothing else of substances going on,
and you can't capture my attention, you can't build on
a young Stars legacy. There was no epic duel of
Birdie Birdie Bogey Bogey Birdie Birdie, crowd going, don't believe
what right you're left with? Which is all we had.
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Happy Father's Day to you, hopefully if you have a dad,
even if you had uh, if you has some issues
that everybody's got dad issues, right, you have dad issues
and you didn't make up yesterday? You know what every
day should be Father's Day? Call him up and uh
and tell him thanks for at least providing the seed
by which you were grown from. That's that's the best
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I can do for it. I had a good one.
He's no longer with me. I miss him. I got
my own Father's Day celebration with my kids. It was great.
Now we get back to being that, I get back
to being the fourth kid getting yelled at for leaving
the food out. We're not cleaning up after myself or
making some sort of mess around the house. Alright, so
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much stuff to get to. Let's get to the news
of the day or the news of the weekend. I
will tell you more about the Celtics and the trade
with the Let's start with the Celtics in the trade
with the seventies sixers. Do you guys used to trade
when you were kids at that lunch table? And you
only don't like kids trade anymore, and like kids do
anything anymore? Right, Like I understood the elimination of the
atomic sit up right, and of the wedgie. But I
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don't understand why kids can't trade food at the lunch
table anymore. I don't understand that they've also, like there
are times in which my kids different schools, they've been
and haven't been able to play like play like sports
schemes at recess. They can't just run around like crazy,
but like get the energy out, fure out a way
to get them running. They only kids do the things
we used to be able to do. Some of that's good,
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some of that's bad. But I do think that trading
was it was a great life lesson. Now. My mom
used to include brown Schweiger and mustard sandwiches. Do you
guys know what that is? I liked them when I
was a kid. Now I used to have them with wonderbread,
and I will tell you, I think you can put
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pretty much anything on wonderbread and it would taste good,
because wonderbread is made up of primarily of sugar and
bleached white flour, which tastes great going down and is
not particularly good for you. But so you can't trade.
You can't unload a brown Schweger and mustard sandwich at all.
But she used to include Oreo cookies or sometimes chips ahoy,
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and for that you can get a pirate's bounty. The
whole thing with the trade is it's supposed to be even.
And while Danny Ainge has gotten over on several other teams,
I kind of feel like this trade makes a ton
of sense. Ton of sense. The Boston Celtics have a
litany of young players. They also have a plethora, I'm
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just going into my vocab here, a plethora, a schmorgan sport,
a cornucopia, um mark Romo's what's it called with the
It's like a smell thing. It's like little I don't know,
it smells really good. Potpourri. They have a potpourri. That's
all I got. That's a potpourri. They have a potpourri
of guards, different kinds, shapes, sizes. So so even though
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they could have taken Marquelle Folds, they didn't need a
Marquelle Folds. Probably want to Jayson Tatum more than a
Josh Jackson. And so they dropped back two spots in
the draft. They get another first round pick next year.
It belongs to the Lakers, and if the Lakers don't
go out and get Paul George, that, my friends, is
going to be a lottery pick again. They have the
Nets lottery pick and they have their own first round
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draft pick all next year. Puts them in the trade
market to go out and trade for a star, or
they can just continue to load up with young players
and remake their team. As Isaiah Thomas is going to
be a free agent at the end of next season,
makes a lot of sense for the Celtics. For the Sixers,
Why have all these picks and why all these guys?
You're not going to go out and get the best
of the best. They've been screwed by some by the
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draft lottery in the past. Remember they didn't get the
number one I'll pick with Joel and Bead, but they
end up backing their way into a Bead because he
was hurt. That happened the year before as well. Last
year they get did get the number one pick, but
he was hurt in Ben Simmons. So they move up
two spots in the draft because they need another perimeter player.
Why I get the Why I get the best one?
They have an extra pick next year. They're not in
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the acquiring as many. They have plenty of young assets.
They need to go out and get a guy, get
a dude. It's a fair trade. It's like trading chips
ahoy for uh for double stuff. I never really liked
the double stuff. They still make the double stuff, Like
the Oriole cookie is a perfectly proportioned cookie. Right, and
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I look, I'm a more is more guy. I am,
I'm a more is more guy. But this is one
of those cases where more is not more, less is more.
Oreo cookie has two little chocolate wafers and the little cream.
Who know it's this pure s cares But whatever it is,
especially when dipped in milk, is utter in sheer perfection.
When you screw up that ratio and you throw in
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double the amount of the cream filling in the middle,
it's it's not better. It's not better, it's worse. It's worse. Anyway.
This is akin to a chips ahoy for an Oreo's switch. Right.
They're both good and milk. They're both find by themselves.
They both taste really good. They're both terrible for you.
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Your mom gets your oreoles. I like chips ahoy. I
like oreos, your mom, or I like chips ahoy, your
my mom gets me orioles. Let's make a trade, That's
all this is. But the Lakers should not make a
trade for Paul George, who announced the world but we
all all assumed it was announced over the weekend Adrian
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Woreddownski Father's Day woj bomb. Paul George has told the
team he ain't coming back at the end of next year,
and the team he wants to play for is your laws,
Angelas Lakers. If there was only precedents, I was the
only precedent for a player wanting to go to a
specific hometown team that had some young assets, and the
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team and the player didn't know if they wanted to wait,
oh wait, there is This is what happened with Carmelo Anthony.
He was in Denver on a team that had topped out,
much like the Pacers have topped out. Pacers got to
the Eastern Conference Finals, Denver Nuggets got to the Western
Conference Finals. Then the Nuggets began to fizzle. He wanted out.
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He knew that he knew he wanted to wanted to
move made before the collective Barton agreement at the end
of the season. So the Knicks relented and traded away
many of those young assets so that when he got there,
it wasn't the team that he wanted to play with. It.
If I'm the Lakers, I don't move heaven and Earth
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to get Paul George. And this is no disrespect to
Paul George. Next year, there's a bunch of free agents
out there, including Lebron, James, Isaiah Thomas, Russell Westbrook, among others.
Why don't move heaven and Earth for a guy who's
a diminishing asset. If the Calves want to give up
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Kevin Love for Paul George, right, let him do it.
And if he wins the championship, right, that's fine, Okay,
that means the Calves have their guys. Now we can
go out and get another free agent. Paul George is
a really good player. I don't know how he'll be
as a third best option playing without the basketball more.
And if he doesn't come to l A, that's okay.
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There are there are other fish in the seat. Don't
do what the Knicks did, which is use all your
young assets, trade them away and then, hey, we finally
got Karmen Anthony, yet there's nobody for him to play with.
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Bruce Hart joins this Fox Sports He'll be joining me
Thursday night, Low and Metal World Peace right here on
Fox Sports Radio, covering the first round of the NBA
Draft will be awesome for you because Bruce Hart knows
everybody in the league. Everybody. Um, Chris, let's let's just
start with with the Lakers. Um, how much do you
think they're willing to to move in order to get
Paul George now with the belief that they could get
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Paul George next year anyway, Well, they're They're really gonna
have to weigh this because I'm one of those that
doesn't think it's guaranteed that getting Paul George as a
free agent. And at the same time, I wouldn't give
up the number of two pick. And here here's here's
where I'm at with George, the Cavaliers wanting for Kevin Love,
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and I think that deal does get made eventually. If
it is made, Cleveland's confident that if Lebron stays that
Georgie will stay and and they Lebron, I don't think
it's going anywhere. I think this is all this Lakers
stuff is just to keep Dan Gilbert's feet to the
fire and not letting get complacent and stop spending money.
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The cast feel like, look, really, Paul George, we're gonna
go to the finals. We're either gonna beat Golden State,
or we will be very close to beating them. You're
leaving that you're gonna leave a championship caliber team to
go play for the Lakers and maybe end up in
the lottery. So Cleveland fields like they'll do it as
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a quote unquote rental, but feeling confident that they're gonna
be able to keep him long term. Even if let's
say George goes to the Lakers. If I'm the Lakers,
I'm not giving up the number two pick, because Paul George,
by himself, he's showing you what he's gonna do for
you in Indiana. By himself, he might not even get
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you into the playoffs. In the West. You're barely made
the playoffs in the East, the weaker conference. What makes
the Lakers thinks he's getting in there in the West.
And if you're Paul George and you look at Kevin Durant,
Dremond Green, Kauai, Leonard Anthony Davis, Carl Anthony Towns, Blake Griffin,
at least for now, those are all forwards. If you're
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on the Lakers team that misses the playoffs or is
an eighth or seventh seeds, you may not even make
the All Star team in the West. He's got to
think about all these He could very easily go to
l A and kind of fade away. He's not a
Lebron James or Kevin Durant or you know somebody that
wherever he goes, he's gonna be a superstar and lead
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them deep into the playoffs. So I think the Lakers,
I don't think it's a done deal that they're getting
him in free agency. Everybody thought west Brook was going
there for sure too, you know. Um. And but at
the same time, I wouldn't give up the number one
to pick because again, Paul George by himself, I don't
think he's making you a great tape. I don't need
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I don't either. But but let's also think think this way.
Chris brus Sorry joining us Fox Sports, who has his
own radio show on the weekend Shore on Fox Sports
Radio as well as you can see him across all
of our shows on Fox Sports one long time NBA guru. Okay,
so here, but we're looking at the Lakers now, right,
Remember the free agent free agency in in a year
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is going to be ridiculous. And help me out, who's
the free A who's the big free agent with the
Warriors in one year. Bro Well, Clay, Clay got two
years left on his deal. I don't know if he
has an option for I believe he I believe he's
he's up in nineteen, right, so he's up, he's up in. Yeah,
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he's got two I know he've got two years left.
I'm not sure if you have a play. Isn't the
assumption that Clay eventually becomes a Laker as well? No,
I don't think so. I'm like, I'm I'm of the belief,
and it's from talking to people that these four guys
they're not leaving. We know Stephs not leaving the ramps,
not leaving. Draymond knows he's in a great story as
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long as Golden States willing to pay. I don't think
these guys are leaving. Play. If he goes elsewhere and averages,
what's he gonna average? He average twenty two with the Warriors,
he's gonna be off an All Star, he might make
some All NBA teams. He's gonna win championships, He'll be
a Hall of Famer. He goes else where, the average
is what and and not a great thing. I mean,
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I get to you, well, you also Brandon, Brandon, Ingram,
whoever they draft this year, like Alonzo Ball, Like, it's
not it. I think the big question for if Paul
George can go join the Cavs, I think you go
do it for a year. I thought, if I'm the Lakers,
I like Paul George. I really like he wants to
be a Laker. That's great. But I'm not willing to
move heaven and Earth to get Paul George because there
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there there are other Paul George's out there, and they
can't do what the Knicks did to get Carmelo, which
is trade away all your young assets just to get
one star player, and that one star player puts you
back in the lottery like Carmelo. And see that's my point.
I do think George could go to the Lakers and
become Carmelo in New York like the same situation. And
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I'm not saying he can't end up with the Lakers.
There's certainly a good chance of it, but I just
don't think it's the done deal that everybody else that.
Don't you think if if George goes to Cleveland they
go to the finals. Let's even say they lose in
a really tough six or seven games. Don't you think
that's a tough decision for him to leave that? And
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especially when they can offer him a lot more money
because they'll have his bird rights. Yeah, that's a tough
I mean, now, will they retain his bird rights for sure? Yeah,
if they get him in a trade. If you get
him in a trade, they'll retain his bird rights. Like yeah,
I mean, yes, that that all makes that all makes sense.
But it is l A. Let's see how Ingram improves.
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Let's see what happens with a Lonzo ball. Let's see
what the whole plan is. Because you know, also Russell
westbrooks up next year as well. He's from l A.
At some point, and and and then I was I
was wondering, kind of allowed, like, if you're Oklahoma City,
why don't you make that move? Right? Why don't you
have all these assets you're trying to keep Russell Westbrook?
Why don't you make a play a couple of a
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couple of your players. Uh? Is Kevin Love probably the
best possible player out there? Sure? But you but Oklahoma
City has more assets they could give to the Pacers
who were in rebuild mode. So I don't know if
if I'm if I'm the Lakers, I'm willing to move
some of the guys. I'm not willing to move that
number to pick. And even though I'm not in love
with d'enzelo Russell, I'm cautious over moving him now because
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I feel like you're selling low and you don't ever
want to sell low. Yeah, and like you said, just
I mean, the Knicks is a cautionary tale. They gave
up not great players, but a good number of good players,
and you saw what he did for them, and they
weren't in the conference that's as tough as the West.
So it's a lot to think. At the end of
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the day, I don't think I make that move if
I'm the Lakers. Um, because as you said, there are
other free agents out there. If you even if you
don't get Paul George that, you know, you might be
able to get to l a Hey, last last thing here,
you're joining us tomorrow. Um. Is this all Boston's doing
or is this setting up another move? It's a tough one.
I mean, people around the league, you know, you know
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Danny Ainge wants to make something happen. Obviously they now
have assets to go out and maybe get a Jimmy Butler.
They could certainly get Paul George if they were willing
to to do a rental um. You know, obviously Blake
Griffin is a sign and trade could become a possibility.
You know, there's all types of things they can do
now because they have more options. But this is what
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I'm being told is basically Boston they like Josh Jackson
or Jason Tatum, whichever one they're gonna take, they like
them as much as false. So they figured, look, we
could take one of those two at number one, but
why don't we take them at number three and get
an extra pick? You know what I mean, They're getting
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another lottery pick basically, So I think it makes sense
even if they don't make that extra move. But you know,
ages out there looking to try to do something. All right,
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so much, alright anytime. Be sure to catch live editions
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Easter noon Pacific. And now so today, Shannon Sharp and
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Skip Bailli's speculate on the possibility of Paul George joined
the Cleveland Cavaliers. You haven't been paying attention, or you're
out the lake, the beach, or just simply watching baseball weekend,
Paul George apparently informed the Indiana Pacers that hey, I'm
giving you a year, but I'm not resigning next year.
So Pacers can get nothing if they hold onto him,
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or they could trade him now they can trade before
the trade deadline. Here's Shannon Sharp on what happens to
the calves if in fact they trade for PG. I
would purchase my own fire trucks so I could drive
it in the parade. Her own fire truck so I
can drive in the parade in Cleveland. This is a
twofold question because the question that I have what are
the calves and who are the calves? Going to have
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to get up, give up to get a Paul George. Now,
if you make it a one for once, swap say
Kevin Love for Paul George. I believe this makes them
better skip because first of all, you have a guy
that scores more. He could defend better. He's better from
the three, better from the free throw line, better at
assisting the ball. The only thing that he doesn't do
better than Kevin Love is rebound the basketball. So therefore
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a lot more of that would follow on Triftan Thompson
and Lebron James. But I believe Lebron could average double
digit rebound, especially if he plays the fourth position. He
is a classic mistake from from football guys judging basketball guys.
And I love Shannon, I do, but this is it's
a classic mistake. The assumption that a guy who has
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never been a rebounder, like you look at at his
rebound told you're like, oh, well, he's six ft eighties two,
two hundred sixty pounds, he looks like a power forward.
He's not like there are the things you can't teach.
You can't teach field either have it or you don't.
And that's in any sport. That's in any business. Some
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people have feel some people don't. In basketball, you can't
teach field. You can't teach passing like I can't. I
can help you become a better fundamental passer, and I can.
I can tell you where the windows will present themselves
to make the passes. But I can't help you see it, man,
I just can't. It's like art, and you ask anybody
who's an artist. You're like, well, you can't teach me mona.
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Can't sit down next to me and teach me how
to paint a mon a. It can't either have somebody
seeks you either have or you don't. And rebounding is
that thing. Rebounding is absolutely positively that thing. And one
of the things that the Golden State Warriors doing incredibly
well is the offensive rebound the basketball off these long
carem threes. And when you don't rebound it well, you
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get beat. And so while Kevin Love hurt them at
times with his lack of ability to suddenly score in
the post and his lack of versatility defensively, he could
really rebound the ball. And the assumption that hey, Lebron's
big Bron strong Lebron has been a pretty good rebounder.
Just moving to the power forward and boom, you're gonna rebound. Yeah,
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that's that's the Tim Tebow would be a good good
that's the basketball guy or baseball guy going. Tim Tebow
will be a good tight end. Why he's never blocked
before in his life. Right, he's never run routes before
in his life. He doesn't have he doesn't have smooth hips,
he doesn't know how to post up people. He doesn't
have that kind of feel. And oh yeah, by the way, Tibo,
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wasn't it actually that big six ft two when the
best tight ends are six ft five, six ft six,
six ft seven. But we make this assumption that a
guy just hey, he's an athlete here, it will be
a better athlete there if he focuses on like it
ain't like Lebron James like, oh well, now I'll start rebounding.
You can you can't. And he's not a rebounder, he's
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a guard. Clay Travis had yet something more interesting to say.
He said this about Colin Kaepernick's NFL career coming to
an unceremonious end, comparing modern day police officers, and I
believe they're somewhere around a million law enforcement officers in
this country. Two slave patrol back in the days of
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slavery to Colin Kaepernick is never playing in the NFL again.
So when I saw Colin Kaepernick compare modern day police
officers to the slave patrol, I said, my god, I
cannot believe that this guy is considered a hero by
anyone in this country. I cannot believe that there's anyone
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supporting the idea that this guy deserves to play in
the NFL. The thing about Colin Kaepernick is he's a
pr disaster. And while we're giving him credit for empty
stats of sixteen touchdowns and four interceptions, the San Francisco
for the Niners weren't competitive last year. They just weren't.
And Nick Foles, in his first year in that same
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system in Philadelphia put up ridiculous numbers as well, like
putting up sixteen and four. It doesn't matter if your
team is non competitive. His team was non competitive. Then
you couple it with the fact that he's never he's
never told anybody what he wants to make. He's got
a terrible reputation as a leader from his time as
the leader of the San Francisco Fortaaners. Offense. We don't
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forget that. And then he's tweeting out that modern day
police are just like the slave patrol. He's a pr disaster.
He's continually shot himself in the foot, and instead of
laying low waiting till you sign your next deal, he's
wrapped it up a notch, which makes him utterly incompletely unsignable.
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So I don't I don't feel sorrow for Kaepernick, especially
considering and this is all reaction to the Philando Castillo
uh killing, which the police officer was ruled to be
not guilty of any crimes, and that's when he tweeted out,
there's a lot of emotion on Twitter. It's a really
hard thing to miss, terrible to watch. It's a terrible
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tragedy that anybody gets shot by a police officer, especially
one that doesn't have a gun. But when you're trying
to get a job in the National Football League, these
are things that you probably shouldn't put out on Twitter
if you're trying to prove a point that you can
actually fit in with an organization. And oh yeah, by
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the way, like Colin Calhern pointed out, if you follow
his Twitter page, there isn't anything about football on it,
and that wouldn't be a big thing if he was
Tom bradyer Aaron Rodgers. But the narrative about about Colin Kaepernick,
kiz he does care a lot about social issues, but
he doesn't care that much about football. Fox Sports Radio
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Of course, he took his Wolverines in this incredible run
to a Big Ten championship in the Big Ten tournament.
Remember they had the plane crash and then they the
next day they they fly in, they get on a
bus to the hotel, but it's bad traffic. They gotta
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play in their practice uniforms and they went four and
four days. They go to the tournament. That his unbelievable
game against mild moder Oakland State. They win it. They
went a couple ultimately losing to the organ in a
close game. But because of that run, because of their
late season success, they're actually gonna lose one of their
top young players in the DJ Wilson. Anyway, John Beelin
joins us on The Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports
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Radio coach, How are you good? Dog? Thanks for having
me on? How would you term it? You know, I
look back and like, I don't think I could be wrong.
I don't think when you construct a team, and when
you have constructed teams at Michigan, even your find your
national Championship runner up team of thirteen, like those teams
weren't necessarily built to have guys leave after their freshman, sophomore,
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junior year. How have you dealt with your teams are
so well respected and your players have played so well
that you've lost them early. How's that? How's that been
for you to handle? It's a it's a puzzle you
keep you keep rebuilding. Really, I mean it's just like
DJ and and we almost lost mots Wagner as well. Um,
those guys ever three points a game last year. We
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were we did not recruit those positions, saying these guys
are back for two more years. We saw they had
great potential, but both of them just had monster year.
Master periods during the year in DJ was special, especially
those last seven games. So it was been. Uh, it
is really difficult, but it's good news that they are. Uh,
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the kids are playing well. They're getting these other opportunities
to play in the pros um and you just got
to continue to to just find other ways. You've got
to be very um, you got to look at the
situation and never expect anything to be certain, and always
try to be prepared for anything that could come in
front of you. But we're happy for them all that
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this will be. It started with Trey Burke and Tim
Hardaway went in thirteen as softwares and juniors. Then the
next year of sophomores Glenn Robinson, h nick Stoski said,
Mitch McGarry and then Caris LeVert did make it all
four years, but basically because of an injury and now
DJ Wilson. SIT's been something we didn't plan on. At
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the same time, we're happy for them, and it also
speaks to you, not just your development, but your system.
You know, a lot of the kind of the NBA
game has come around to kind of your system, and
you're one of the first in college basketball to not
just embrace the three point shop, but to take your
big guy and put him you know, go back to
when you're West Virginia and Kevin Pittsnoggle, I mean, think
about how valuable he would be in this NBA draft
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as opposed to when he came out in the NBA.
It feels like your system has allowed so many players
to flourish that it's it's a gift and a curse
at once. Well, yeah, Kevin, there has never been a
college player that could shoot the big manic could shoot
like Kevin Pittsnogle. I mean, Doug he had, he had
like two he averaged seventy three is a year. I
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think it was at least seventy three is a year
for a big man at cent or something. So he
was really elite at that. But I mean, um, you
know it was It's only it's necessity is the mother
of invention. It wasn't gonna be okay, we're just gonna
pound the ball into Pitt Snaggle or Mike Meeks was
really good Kinnisius for us and now this pastor Mova
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Mo Wagner DJ It is like you just got to
find a different way. And you've been coaching a long time.
You say there's more than one way to win. You
gotta find it, you gotta find how to do it,
and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But we still
we really we were really playing well even before that run,
you know, we had some really good games with where
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we'll be, some really good teams decisively and showed us
we had promised. We just couldn't put it all together
all the time until we got into February. Okay, So
here's the question. Coach John bielin joining us on the
Doug Gottlip Show. Um, the question becomes, what's the next
wave in college basketball? Like, what's the next? Because now,
like I said, I watched you play against my mono
Oakland State, and there though the offense is different, essentially
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the style is still the same. Right you have you
had Derek Walton, Uh, they had their own tremendous point
guard as well, and and the ideas creates space for
those dynamic ball there's get in the lane and if
you help, you kick out and you shoot it three
or you make a pass to whoever's open, and people
have copied what you're doing, and that's become that's become
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the norm. So what's the next what's the next step?
What's the next wave to to strike college basketball? I
don't I'm usually I don't know if I'm if I'm
that smart to be able to get out and get
in front of that stuff. I do see uh you
know the idea that people maybe picking back up full
court again to even soft presses even more. Just with
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the thirty second shackle, I think that changed us a
little bit. Um that that we are with the third second,
we have to move, we have to get the ball
out quicker, we have to do things quicker, uh two,
so that we have more options with the ball. But
right right now, I think switching every ball screen is
a new wave. That that's what really helped us be
really good at the end. People switch to every ball
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screen and that's where Derek Walton we just challenge them,
say Derek, they don't think you go buy a seven
footer or shoot over a seven footer. It's time And
he did every bit of that. So I think that
if the next way defensively switching everything and and stop
getting in all these rotations on ball screens because it's
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really hard. Uh you know they people work at close
out drills all day. Anytime you're in a long close out,
you're in trouble. So how can you avoid that switch? Um? Okay,
So there's there's several of the things that I need
to get to. John Beelin joinus. You mentioned the thirteen team. Obviously,
it was a really tough call that went against Trey
Burke in that in that game. But now Louisville is
talking about having to give back wins because of the
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probation that they're on. Let's say that they used ineligible
players in the thirteen championship game based upon this most
recent ruling, would you get national championship rings for your team?
I don't think so. Now I don't think so. I
think that you know, we had we had They beat
us fair as square in a game. I'm not going
to go into you know, what their their issues were there.
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It's it's it's a basketball game, and we we had
a we had a tough game. We did with the
brakes did not go our way, but sometimes we had
some wins where the Brakes went all our way. So
it didn't work out. But we're not going to look
it back and ask for anything else. Our kids gave
us everything I had, and you know, each kid was
as a special player. It was a special season and
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it actually led to the next year where we won
the Big Ten championship with many of those guys that
made them all better and several in the Pros because
of those that runs. So now we all have the
n c A and Louisville can do their thing. Michigan
is just gonna keep staying on path be the best
program we can be. I mentioned all the players Nick's doscas.
Of course you lost that. There's others that you've lost
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to the pros. Of all the players, Tim Hardway Jrs.
Having at least statistically the best impact. We mentioned Trey Burke,
who came back would have been a first round pick,
came back, had that spectacular year, and then obviously was
a was a lottery pick. Um. I guess this is
two different questions I want to ask you in order.
The first is like, is your system artificially inflating how
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good these players are? Like if I'm an NBA scout,
do I sit there and go like, he looks great,
but beeline helps him look great? Like? How do you
how do you handle that narrative that some of your
players have looked better playing for you than they have
at the next level. Oh man, I don't know how
I handle it. I just I you know, Doug, I
think you know. I've never been assistant coach, so I
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continue to evolve as a coach um and try to
put our guys in the best positions. The pros are
too smart for that. They're gonna look through all that.
And you know, I think the kids are so young
o the NBA. I think it's taken all our guys
time to adjust, um, and it took Tim time to adjust.
He's playing really well. But Carris Leverton that was stayed
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four years in college and watched it more. He was
probably more equipped at that time. But uh, you know,
if you if people think that it's great, but I
think the pro the pro scouts are much too smart
to be tricked by any system. It's just a it's
a pro system in many respects. But I think it's
the off the court culture that is that we have.
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The type of young men that we've had have been
very attractive to a lot of pro teams. When they
interview our guys, I think they get they get the
sense that this kid is is not only a good player,
he's going to be a good representative of their teams.
I've noticed that you haven't quite caught up with coach
hardball in terms of your social media presence and some
and something stuff. Are you gonna be milking cows or
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sleep And every time I do a tweet, it takes
me about twenty minutes to do it. And I said,
I don't have this time in my life to do it.
But if there's something important I can do, I'm gonna
do it. But it's not he's gonna win that race
every time. I'm not going to compete on that stage.
I'm just gonna continue to try to do the best
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I can to to make sure that we're great representatives
of of what I think is the greatest university in
the world. Um, d J. Wilson. You mentioned him and
how he averaged three points a game his sophomore year.
He blew up not just the years this year, but
late he started to really really improve. Give me your
and obviously he's your guy. You you like your guys
more than anybody else's guys. What's a reasonable expectation for
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his ceiling? Oh? Just here's what. Here's what we try
to predict and recruiting and we don't know it all
and proticting with the pros as well, is who who's
like maximized, who's sort of it where they got to be,
you know, and who's you know, whether it's their birthday,
whether they're shaving yet, whether always either who's still growing?
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This kid is in the last during times of the year,
there was no question in my mind he could be
a pro. How soon? Who would know? And those last
six seven games he was embracing contact really well. He's
just on his way to be a really good player
because and plus he can really shoot, really shoot, So
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you put all those things that gather with his defense
and now he's out letting. He's do a thing. He's
just he's like a lot of the younger you know,
he's twenty one, he's got a body of a nineteen
year old. He's got as far as experience, he's in
that area to where the best is yet to come
for him. And he's a super kid on and off
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the court. Everybody's gonna love to coach him, very coachable.
It's gonna be whoever gets him is going to be
very fortunate. Uh And like most young kids, he's got
to grow and he will because he's really a very
teachable student. Well, I know it's a big couple of
weeks for you, not just wrapping up to being recruiting,
getting into summer, but with all Jordan your former assistant
got the butler job. Now you get ready to Now
(38:40):
you're getting ready to uh to have some more of
your players getting ready for the NBA. Big time for
your coach. Congrats another spectacularity and more than anything, thanks
for paying the picture of what it's like to be
the head coach of Michigan being our guests on Fox
Sports Radio, Well, thank you very much. And I gotta
let you know you inspired my team when you picked
Oklahoma State. You know what, they had no chance, Doug,
they had no asked. One star guy saw your quote,
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So I thank you for that as well. I gotta
tell you I I wouldn't expect anything else from a graduate. No,
not just that, not not just that. I thought that was.
That was as good a basketball game as I can remember.
Like it was a great game. I don't I don't know,
like there wasn't There was a ton of defense, but
it wasn't because it was bad defense. Just know, everybody's
making shots and how can you stay in front of Evans?
I mean it was. It was absolutely crazy and Brad
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did a great job with those guys and now he's
in the league and I you know, I uh, I
walked up the court and say, damn, I hope I
never see play against one of his teams again. And
in two days he was in our league. So it
was a great basketball game. Two really good programs and uh,
I'm glad we were able to get that. W coach,
thanks so much for doing us all right. Thanks. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leaps
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Show weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. I watched
Nolan Arnando do something which he's cool, but it's kind
of overrated, right, Like to me, the most it was
overrated accomplished in baseball is probably the no hitter because
you can lose the game, you can walk as many
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people as you want, errors like, there's a little bit
of luck to it as well. The defense has to
really pick you up, and it's more of a team.
It can be more of a team thing. Like, not
all no hitters are created equal. Now Don Larson pitched
a no hitter in the World Series. That's impressive. No
hitter on a Wednesday in Seattle, or no hitter from
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a star pitcher in September when there's a forty man
roster in Collops not all not crazy with seven walks, right,
and a couple of booted balls and several turn double
plays and the defense just diving and making like it's
not really that impressive. But a no hitter in the
World Series for Don Larson winning the game, that's impressive.
(40:55):
Nolan Arnado hit a hit for the cycle yesterday for
the Colorado right keys, Okay, okay, Like that's cool and
there's a certain skill to it. Now it should be
pointed out that what I think people don't understand about Colorado. Yes,
altitude does make the ball go further, so you are
going to hit more home runs. But are you aware
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of how big that field is? You guys, do you
understand that like there's been there's been the same number
of there's been the same number of cycles since coors
Field came into existence as there has in the history
of Fenway Park, did you you guys hear what I said.
(41:41):
There are the same number of cycles in the modern
day history of coors Field, which is roughly twenty years old,
then in over a hundred years of Fenway Park. So
the reason for that is what's the hardest part of
the of the cycle. The triple, right, the triple triple
(42:05):
is really really hard. So if you get the triple,
like and you get the home run the single on
the double ran, that aren't crazy. It's I'm not saying
that getting them all in a game is an impressive
but like, let's not kill would you rather hit three
home runs in a game or the cycle home runs? Again,
it's more impressive. Three home runs in the game is
way more impressive. Frankly, two home runs in a game
(42:26):
is pretty damn impressive. Or a home run from each
side of the plate also more impressive. Like that stuff
is incredible. So I'm not totally diminishing a cycle, but
the cycle can be diminished when you're like, you know,
it's in course, it's a huge surface. Guy misplays a
ball and you get a triple you know, you know,
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run and then single double like whatever. Now you're now
you're just you can see an i ground ball can
become a single and based upon position and you can
get a double as well. But much like Don Larson
pitching the no hitter in the World Series makes it
more impressive. Did you hear or did you see how
Nolan Arnado finished off the cycle? Molansen's pitch drive to
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left failed, going back a slight art It's god. No,
Lanaranado gets the cycle with a walk off, three run
game winning homer. The Rockies sweep the Giants in a
(43:36):
four game series final score Rockies seven, Giants five. Yeah.
So that's on the Rockies Radio network. So I'm not
gonna sit here and tell you that that a cycle
is not impressive. It's impressive, but it's not like, oh
my god, a guy hit for the cycle. It'll happen
several times this year, and in Corse Field it's happened
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there more than the other field. Not just that, but
he he ended the cycle, completed the cycle. Excuse me, right,
you complete the cycle, don't end it. You complete the
cycle hitting a walk off home run. Wait wait wait,
there's more to it, a walk off three run home run.
Wait wait wait, there's more to it. Now. I can't
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tell you I know every reliever in the big leagues,
but I can tell you that Mark Mallanson is one
of the best relievers in Major League Baseball over the
past five years. Don't believe me. In two thousand thirteen,
and I will grant you that part of this he
has been at both a setup man and a closer
one point three nine r A one point nine r
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e r A, two point two three e r A
when he with Pittsburgh and fifteen when he had fifty
one saves on the year. Then remember traded mid season,
going back to last year with Pittsburgh at a one
point five one e r A and thirty saves, and
then seventeen saves with the Washington Nationals last year, so
he had forty seven saves with a combined one point
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six e r A. So again, the cycle is one thing,
ending it out a walk off, another thing, a walk
off three run home run. Another thing, a walk off
three run home run against one of the best closers
relief pictures in baseball over the past half decade. Who
oh yeah, throws right, Nolan Ardado hits right, so righty, righty,
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matchup is supposed to work out to the picture. That's
as about a good as cycle as you will ever see.
It's not quite Don Larson, it's not quite in the
World Series, but it's every bit as impressive. Even though
normally I'm not nearly as impressed by the cycle as
people would lead you to believe. Were like, oh, did
you hear your hit for the cycle,
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America? Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio, Live from the City of Angels. We're
apparently Paul George is coming to this year next year.
Who don't want to move to l A. That's what happens, folks.
Gottlieb moves to l A. Paul George says, I'm in
(00:21):
Russell Westbrook. Next. Who who's coming? Huh? Who's coming? All
of a sudden, Lebron s sorry, like Lebron might come
to l A. You know what this is? Like? My
daughter is eleven years old. On Wednesday, she uh graduates
from fifth grade. I know it's a big momentous occasion.
I will not be missing us open for it, um
(00:42):
and uh we name my daughter Harper. Harper, She's eleven
years old. You go back and look kind of historically
to all these lots of celebs have a Harper. They
are all under eleven years old. I just want to
point out Gottlieb is a trend setter, a trail blazer,
not a Portland trailblazer, just a general trailblazer. Welcome into
(01:03):
the Doug Gottlieb Show. You can contact us a myriad
of ways. Here's one. Follow me on Twitter at Gottlieb Show.
You can call us eight seven seven six three six nine.
Brian Music were and I were just he's the producer.
We were just deciding whether or not we should hear
from you, and the answer is maybe maybe come call
(01:24):
impress him and maybe you can impress upon me your opinions.
That's eight seven seven six three six nine UM. Or
you could just kind of mentally mental telepathy, try and
communicate with it. That one. I don't know if it
allas should go through, but you can think, you can
think of it. It It might happen. David David Gascon's in
(01:44):
for Dan Buyer Um. Whether you listen to us on
Serious Channel eighty three or the I Heart app or
any of our myriad of affiliates, welcome in. I want
to get to Paul George and where he could potentially
go before he goes to the Lakers, and why the
Lakers should not do anything to go and get Paul George.
(02:06):
But first a little in the US open Well that sucked.
I mean it, it sucked. It did. Just it wasn't
it wasn't bad. But it wasn't good, right, Brooks Captin
was awesome. You know. Dud's kind of yoked a little bit,
(02:26):
got a nice smooch off of eighteen. But when you
start running off that number of birdies at the U
S O be like, wait, is this the US Open
or is this the Milwaukee Invitational? Right? It felt I
understand that they picked a course that had not yet
been challenged at this level and it didn't stand up
(02:46):
even with the wind to normal US Open standards. Some
of them was helped out by the U S g A.
They wanted more scoring, but boy, that sucks. What is
this the eighth first time winner? And how many? How
many it was seventh first time winner and last eight majors?
Is that right? If not sounded good, you can quote
me and say Gottlip screwed it up on the radio.
(03:07):
The point is this, fellas, we need some collusion, right.
We need you guys to get together. We need Rory.
We need speech or speef. Uh some of you might
come speef. We need Rory, We need speech. We need
DJ Ricky Fowler and a Brooks Kepka. We need an
(03:29):
epic battle of all the young guns. All right, that's
what we need. That's what it will bring you back
to golf. Otherwise it's it's background music or background noise
to a discussion on Father's Day. That's what it is.
I thought the technology on Fox Sports one was fantastic.
I could follow the shot tracer was outstanding. Oh look
(03:50):
all right, left. I thought it was outstanding. Thought it
was a good watch. Um, it looked like every green
was the same. Everything was a table top to which
if you missed, it just fell off. But outside of that,
that was really boring. And when you have a window
(04:11):
like like yesterday, where nothing else of substances going on,
and you can't capture my attention, you can't build on
a young Stars legacy. There was no epic duel of
Birdie Birdie Bogey Bogey Birdie Birdie, crowd going, don't believe
what right you're left with? Which is all we had.
(04:36):
Happy Father's Day to you, hopefully if you have a dad,
even if you had uh, if you has some issues
that everybody's got dad issues, right, you have dad issues
and you didn't make up yesterday? You know what every
day should be Father's Day? Call him up and uh
and tell him thanks for at least providing the seed
by which you were grown from. That's that's the best
(04:57):
I can do for it. I had a good one.
He's no longer with me. I miss him. I got
my own Father's Day celebration with my kids. It was great.
Now we get back to being that, I get back
to being the fourth kid getting yelled at for leaving
the food out. We're not cleaning up after myself or
making some sort of mess around the house. Alright, so
(05:18):
much stuff to get to. Let's get to the news
of the day or the news of the weekend. I
will tell you more about the Celtics and the trade
with the Let's start with the Celtics in the trade
with the seventies sixers. Do you guys used to trade
when you were kids at that lunch table? And you
only don't like kids trade anymore, and like kids do
anything anymore? Right, Like I understood the elimination of the
atomic sit up right, and of the wedgie. But I
(05:43):
don't understand why kids can't trade food at the lunch
table anymore. I don't understand that they've also, like there
are times in which my kids different schools, they've been
and haven't been able to play like play like sports
schemes at recess. They can't just run around like crazy,
but like get the energy out, fure out a way
to get them running. They only kids do the things
we used to be able to do. Some of that's good,
(06:05):
some of that's bad. But I do think that trading
was it was a great life lesson. Now. My mom
used to include brown Schweiger and mustard sandwiches. Do you
guys know what that is? I liked them when I
was a kid. Now I used to have them with wonderbread,
and I will tell you, I think you can put
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pretty much anything on wonderbread and it would taste good,
because wonderbread is made up of primarily of sugar and
bleached white flour, which tastes great going down and is
not particularly good for you. But so you can't trade.
You can't unload a brown Schweger and mustard sandwich at all.
But she used to include Oreo cookies or sometimes chips ahoy,
(06:47):
and for that you can get a pirate's bounty. The
whole thing with the trade is it's supposed to be even.
And while Danny Ainge has gotten over on several other teams,
I kind of feel like this trade makes a ton
of sense. Ton of sense. The Boston Celtics have a
litany of young players. They also have a plethora, I'm
(07:10):
just going into my vocab here, a plethora, a schmorgan sport,
a cornucopia, um mark Romo's what's it called with the
It's like a smell thing. It's like little I don't know,
it smells really good. Potpourri. They have a potpourri. That's
all I got. That's a potpourri. They have a potpourri
of guards, different kinds, shapes, sizes. So so even though
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they could have taken Marquelle Folds, they didn't need a
Marquelle Folds. Probably want to Jayson Tatum more than a
Josh Jackson. And so they dropped back two spots in
the draft. They get another first round pick next year.
It belongs to the Lakers, and if the Lakers don't
go out and get Paul George, that, my friends, is
going to be a lottery pick again. They have the
Nets lottery pick and they have their own first round
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draft pick all next year. Puts them in the trade
market to go out and trade for a star, or
they can just continue to load up with young players
and remake their team. As Isaiah Thomas is going to
be a free agent at the end of next season,
makes a lot of sense for the Celtics. For the Sixers,
Why have all these picks and why all these guys?
You're not going to go out and get the best
of the best. They've been screwed by some by the
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draft lottery in the past. Remember they didn't get the
number one I'll pick with Joel and Bead, but they
end up backing their way into a Bead because he
was hurt. That happened the year before as well. Last
year they get did get the number one pick, but
he was hurt in Ben Simmons. So they move up
two spots in the draft because they need another perimeter player.
Why I get the Why I get the best one?
They have an extra pick next year. They're not in
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the acquiring as many. They have plenty of young assets.
They need to go out and get a guy, get
a dude. It's a fair trade. It's like trading chips
ahoy for uh for double stuff. I never really liked
the double stuff. They still make the double stuff, Like
the Oriole cookie is a perfectly proportioned cookie. Right, and
(08:59):
I look, I'm a more is more guy. I am,
I'm a more is more guy. But this is one
of those cases where more is not more, less is more.
Oreo cookie has two little chocolate wafers and the little cream.
Who know it's this pure s cares But whatever it is,
especially when dipped in milk, is utter in sheer perfection.
When you screw up that ratio and you throw in
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double the amount of the cream filling in the middle,
it's it's not better. It's not better, it's worse. It's worse. Anyway.
This is akin to a chips ahoy for an Oreo's switch. Right.
They're both good and milk. They're both find by themselves.
They both taste really good. They're both terrible for you.
(09:41):
Your mom gets your oreoles. I like chips ahoy. I
like oreos, your mom, or I like chips ahoy, your
my mom gets me orioles. Let's make a trade, That's
all this is. But the Lakers should not make a
trade for Paul George, who announced the world but we
all all assumed it was announced over the weekend Adrian
(10:03):
Woreddownski Father's Day woj bomb. Paul George has told the
team he ain't coming back at the end of next year,
and the team he wants to play for is your laws,
Angelas Lakers. If there was only precedents, I was the
only precedent for a player wanting to go to a
specific hometown team that had some young assets, and the
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team and the player didn't know if they wanted to wait,
oh wait, there is This is what happened with Carmelo Anthony.
He was in Denver on a team that had topped out,
much like the Pacers have topped out. Pacers got to
the Eastern Conference Finals, Denver Nuggets got to the Western
Conference Finals. Then the Nuggets began to fizzle. He wanted out.
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He knew that he knew he wanted to wanted to
move made before the collective Barton agreement at the end
of the season. So the Knicks relented and traded away
many of those young assets so that when he got there,
it wasn't the team that he wanted to play with. It.
If I'm the Lakers, I don't move heaven and Earth
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to get Paul George. And this is no disrespect to
Paul George. Next year, there's a bunch of free agents
out there, including Lebron, James, Isaiah Thomas, Russell Westbrook, among others.
Why don't move heaven and Earth for a guy who's
a diminishing asset. If the Calves want to give up
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Kevin Love for Paul George, right, let him do it.
And if he wins the championship, right, that's fine, Okay,
that means the Calves have their guys. Now we can
go out and get another free agent. Paul George is
a really good player. I don't know how he'll be
as a third best option playing without the basketball more.
And if he doesn't come to l A, that's okay.
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There are there are other fish in the seat. Don't
do what the Knicks did, which is use all your
young assets, trade them away and then, hey, we finally
got Karmen Anthony, yet there's nobody for him to play with.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott
Leap Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Chris
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Bruce Hart joins this Fox Sports He'll be joining me
Thursday night, Low and Metal World Peace right here on
Fox Sports Radio, covering the first round of the NBA
Draft will be awesome for you because Bruce Hart knows
everybody in the league. Everybody. Um, Chris, let's let's just
start with with the Lakers. Um, how much do you
think they're willing to to move in order to get
Paul George now with the belief that they could get
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Paul George next year anyway, Well, they're They're really gonna
have to weigh this because I'm one of those that
doesn't think it's guaranteed that getting Paul George as a
free agent. And at the same time, I wouldn't give
up the number of two pick. And here here's here's
where I'm at with George, the Cavaliers wanting for Kevin Love,
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and I think that deal does get made eventually. If
it is made, Cleveland's confident that if Lebron stays that
Georgie will stay and and they Lebron, I don't think
it's going anywhere. I think this is all this Lakers
stuff is just to keep Dan Gilbert's feet to the
fire and not letting get complacent and stop spending money.
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The cast feel like, look, really, Paul George, we're gonna
go to the finals. We're either gonna beat Golden State,
or we will be very close to beating them. You're
leaving that you're gonna leave a championship caliber team to
go play for the Lakers and maybe end up in
the lottery. So Cleveland fields like they'll do it as
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a quote unquote rental, but feeling confident that they're gonna
be able to keep him long term. Even if let's
say George goes to the Lakers. If I'm the Lakers,
I'm not giving up the number two pick, because Paul George,
by himself, he's showing you what he's gonna do for
you in Indiana. By himself, he might not even get
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you into the playoffs. In the West. You're barely made
the playoffs in the East, the weaker conference. What makes
the Lakers thinks he's getting in there in the West.
And if you're Paul George and you look at Kevin Durant,
Dremond Green, Kauai, Leonard Anthony Davis, Carl Anthony Towns, Blake Griffin,
at least for now, those are all forwards. If you're
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on the Lakers team that misses the playoffs or is
an eighth or seventh seeds, you may not even make
the All Star team in the West. He's got to
think about all these He could very easily go to
l A and kind of fade away. He's not a
Lebron James or Kevin Durant or you know somebody that
wherever he goes, he's gonna be a superstar and lead
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them deep into the playoffs. So I think the Lakers,
I don't think it's a done deal that they're getting
him in free agency. Everybody thought west Brook was going
there for sure too, you know. Um. And but at
the same time, I wouldn't give up the number one
to pick because again, Paul George by himself, I don't
think he's making you a great tape. I don't need
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I don't either. But but let's also think think this way.
Chris brus Sorry joining us Fox Sports, who has his
own radio show on the weekend Shore on Fox Sports
Radio as well as you can see him across all
of our shows on Fox Sports one long time NBA guru. Okay,
so here, but we're looking at the Lakers now, right,
Remember the free agent free agency in in a year
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is going to be ridiculous. And help me out, who's
the free A who's the big free agent with the
Warriors in one year. Bro Well, Clay, Clay got two
years left on his deal. I don't know if he
has an option for I believe he I believe he's
he's up in nineteen, right, so he's up, he's up in. Yeah,
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he's got two I know he've got two years left.
I'm not sure if you have a play. Isn't the
assumption that Clay eventually becomes a Laker as well? No,
I don't think so. I'm like, I'm I'm of the belief,
and it's from talking to people that these four guys
they're not leaving. We know Stephs not leaving the ramps,
not leaving. Draymond knows he's in a great story as
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long as Golden States willing to pay. I don't think
these guys are leaving. Play. If he goes elsewhere and averages,
what's he gonna average? He average twenty two with the Warriors,
he's gonna be off an All Star, he might make
some All NBA teams. He's gonna win championships, He'll be
a Hall of Famer. He goes else where, the average
is what and and not a great thing. I mean,
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I get to you, well, you also Brandon, Brandon, Ingram,
whoever they draft this year, like Alonzo Ball, Like, it's
not it. I think the big question for if Paul
George can go join the Cavs, I think you go
do it for a year. I thought, if I'm the Lakers,
I like Paul George. I really like he wants to
be a Laker. That's great. But I'm not willing to
move heaven and Earth to get Paul George because there
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there there are other Paul George's out there, and they
can't do what the Knicks did to get Carmelo, which
is trade away all your young assets just to get
one star player, and that one star player puts you
back in the lottery like Carmelo. And see that's my point.
I do think George could go to the Lakers and
become Carmelo in New York like the same situation. And
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I'm not saying he can't end up with the Lakers.
There's certainly a good chance of it, but I just
don't think it's the done deal that everybody else that.
Don't you think if if George goes to Cleveland they
go to the finals. Let's even say they lose in
a really tough six or seven games. Don't you think
that's a tough decision for him to leave that? And
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especially when they can offer him a lot more money
because they'll have his bird rights. Yeah, that's a tough
I mean, now, will they retain his bird rights for sure? Yeah,
if they get him in a trade. If you get
him in a trade, they'll retain his bird rights. Like yeah,
I mean, yes, that that all makes that all makes sense.
But it is l A. Let's see how Ingram improves.
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Let's see what happens with a Lonzo ball. Let's see
what the whole plan is. Because you know, also Russell
westbrooks up next year as well. He's from l A.
At some point, and and and then I was I
was wondering, kind of allowed, like, if you're Oklahoma City,
why don't you make that move? Right? Why don't you
have all these assets you're trying to keep Russell Westbrook?
Why don't you make a play a couple of a
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couple of your players. Uh? Is Kevin Love probably the
best possible player out there? Sure? But you but Oklahoma
City has more assets they could give to the Pacers
who were in rebuild mode. So I don't know if
if I'm if I'm the Lakers, I'm willing to move
some of the guys. I'm not willing to move that
number to pick. And even though I'm not in love
with d'enzelo Russell, I'm cautious over moving him now because
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I feel like you're selling low and you don't ever
want to sell low. Yeah, and like you said, just
I mean, the Knicks is a cautionary tale. They gave
up not great players, but a good number of good players,
and you saw what he did for them, and they
weren't in the conference that's as tough as the West.
So it's a lot to think. At the end of
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the day, I don't think I make that move if
I'm the Lakers. Um, because as you said, there are
other free agents out there. If you even if you
don't get Paul George that, you know, you might be
able to get to l a Hey, last last thing here,
you're joining us tomorrow. Um. Is this all Boston's doing
or is this setting up another move? It's a tough one.
I mean, people around the league, you know, you know
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Danny Ainge wants to make something happen. Obviously they now
have assets to go out and maybe get a Jimmy Butler.
They could certainly get Paul George if they were willing
to to do a rental um. You know, obviously Blake
Griffin is a sign and trade could become a possibility.
You know, there's all types of things they can do
now because they have more options. But this is what
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I'm being told is basically Boston they like Josh Jackson
or Jason Tatum, whichever one they're gonna take, they like
them as much as false. So they figured, look, we
could take one of those two at number one, but
why don't we take them at number three and get
an extra pick? You know what I mean, They're getting
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another lottery pick basically, So I think it makes sense
even if they don't make that extra move. But you know,
ages out there looking to try to do something. All right,
Excited to work with you on Thursday's Thursday Night here
on Fox Sports Radio Thursday afternoon in the West, me
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following on Twitter as well. Chris Bruce Harp Bruce, thanks
so much, alright anytime. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Doug gott Leaves Show weekdays at three pm
Easter noon Pacific. And now so today, Shannon Sharp and
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Skip Bailli's speculate on the possibility of Paul George joined
the Cleveland Cavaliers. You haven't been paying attention, or you're
out the lake, the beach, or just simply watching baseball weekend,
Paul George apparently informed the Indiana Pacers that hey, I'm
giving you a year, but I'm not resigning next year.
So Pacers can get nothing if they hold onto him,
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or they could trade him now they can trade before
the trade deadline. Here's Shannon Sharp on what happens to
the calves if in fact they trade for PG. I
would purchase my own fire trucks so I could drive
it in the parade. Her own fire truck so I
can drive in the parade in Cleveland. This is a
twofold question because the question that I have what are
the calves and who are the calves? Going to have
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to get up, give up to get a Paul George. Now,
if you make it a one for once, swap say
Kevin Love for Paul George. I believe this makes them
better skip because first of all, you have a guy
that scores more. He could defend better. He's better from
the three, better from the free throw line, better at
assisting the ball. The only thing that he doesn't do
better than Kevin Love is rebound the basketball. So therefore
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a lot more of that would follow on Triftan Thompson
and Lebron James. But I believe Lebron could average double
digit rebound, especially if he plays the fourth position. He
is a classic mistake from from football guys judging basketball guys.
And I love Shannon, I do, but this is it's
a classic mistake. The assumption that a guy who has
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never been a rebounder, like you look at at his
rebound told you're like, oh, well, he's six ft eighties two,
two hundred sixty pounds, he looks like a power forward.
He's not like there are the things you can't teach.
You can't teach field either have it or you don't.
And that's in any sport. That's in any business. Some
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people have feel some people don't. In basketball, you can't
teach field. You can't teach passing like I can't. I
can help you become a better fundamental passer, and I can.
I can tell you where the windows will present themselves
to make the passes. But I can't help you see it, man,
I just can't. It's like art, and you ask anybody
who's an artist. You're like, well, you can't teach me mona.
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Can't sit down next to me and teach me how
to paint a mon a. It can't either have somebody
seeks you either have or you don't. And rebounding is
that thing. Rebounding is absolutely positively that thing. And one
of the things that the Golden State Warriors doing incredibly
well is the offensive rebound the basketball off these long
carem threes. And when you don't rebound it well, you
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get beat. And so while Kevin Love hurt them at
times with his lack of ability to suddenly score in
the post and his lack of versatility defensively, he could
really rebound the ball. And the assumption that hey, Lebron's
big Bron strong Lebron has been a pretty good rebounder.
Just moving to the power forward and boom, you're gonna rebound. Yeah,
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that's that's the Tim Tebow would be a good good
that's the basketball guy or baseball guy going. Tim Tebow
will be a good tight end. Why he's never blocked
before in his life. Right, he's never run routes before
in his life. He doesn't have he doesn't have smooth hips,
he doesn't know how to post up people. He doesn't
have that kind of feel. And oh yeah, by the way, Tibo,
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wasn't it actually that big six ft two when the
best tight ends are six ft five, six ft six,
six ft seven. But we make this assumption that a
guy just hey, he's an athlete here, it will be
a better athlete there if he focuses on like it
ain't like Lebron James like, oh well, now I'll start rebounding.
You can you can't. And he's not a rebounder, he's
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a guard. Clay Travis had yet something more interesting to say.
He said this about Colin Kaepernick's NFL career coming to
an unceremonious end, comparing modern day police officers, and I
believe they're somewhere around a million law enforcement officers in
this country. Two slave patrol back in the days of
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slavery to Colin Kaepernick is never playing in the NFL again.
So when I saw Colin Kaepernick compare modern day police
officers to the slave patrol, I said, my god, I
cannot believe that this guy is considered a hero by
anyone in this country. I cannot believe that there's anyone
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supporting the idea that this guy deserves to play in
the NFL. The thing about Colin Kaepernick is he's a
pr disaster. And while we're giving him credit for empty
stats of sixteen touchdowns and four interceptions, the San Francisco
for the Niners weren't competitive last year. They just weren't.
And Nick Foles, in his first year in that same
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system in Philadelphia put up ridiculous numbers as well, like
putting up sixteen and four. It doesn't matter if your
team is non competitive. His team was non competitive. Then
you couple it with the fact that he's never he's
never told anybody what he wants to make. He's got
a terrible reputation as a leader from his time as
the leader of the San Francisco Fortaaners. Offense. We don't
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forget that. And then he's tweeting out that modern day
police are just like the slave patrol. He's a pr disaster.
He's continually shot himself in the foot, and instead of
laying low waiting till you sign your next deal, he's
wrapped it up a notch, which makes him utterly incompletely unsignable.
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So I don't I don't feel sorrow for Kaepernick, especially
considering and this is all reaction to the Philando Castillo
uh killing, which the police officer was ruled to be
not guilty of any crimes, and that's when he tweeted out,
there's a lot of emotion on Twitter. It's a really
hard thing to miss, terrible to watch. It's a terrible
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tragedy that anybody gets shot by a police officer, especially
one that doesn't have a gun. But when you're trying
to get a job in the National Football League, these
are things that you probably shouldn't put out on Twitter
if you're trying to prove a point that you can
actually fit in with an organization. And oh yeah, by
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the way, like Colin Calhern pointed out, if you follow
his Twitter page, there isn't anything about football on it,
and that wouldn't be a big thing if he was
Tom bradyer Aaron Rodgers. But the narrative about about Colin Kaepernick,
kiz he does care a lot about social issues, but
he doesn't care that much about football. Fox Sports Radio
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Of course, he took his Wolverines in this incredible run
to a Big Ten championship in the Big Ten tournament.
Remember they had the plane crash and then they the
next day they they fly in, they get on a
bus to the hotel, but it's bad traffic. They gotta
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play in their practice uniforms and they went four and
four days. They go to the tournament. That his unbelievable
game against mild moder Oakland State. They win it. They
went a couple ultimately losing to the organ in a
close game. But because of that run, because of their
late season success, they're actually gonna lose one of their
top young players in the DJ Wilson. Anyway, John Beelin
joins us on The Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports
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Radio coach, How are you good? Dog? Thanks for having
me on? How would you term it? You know, I
look back and like, I don't think I could be wrong.
I don't think when you construct a team, and when
you have constructed teams at Michigan, even your find your
national Championship runner up team of thirteen, like those teams
weren't necessarily built to have guys leave after their freshman, sophomore,
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junior year. How have you dealt with your teams are
so well respected and your players have played so well
that you've lost them early. How's that? How's that been
for you to handle? It's a it's a puzzle you
keep you keep rebuilding. Really, I mean it's just like
DJ and and we almost lost mots Wagner as well. Um,
those guys ever three points a game last year. We
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were we did not recruit those positions, saying these guys
are back for two more years. We saw they had
great potential, but both of them just had monster year.
Master periods during the year in DJ was special, especially
those last seven games. So it was been. Uh, it
is really difficult, but it's good news that they are. Uh,
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the kids are playing well. They're getting these other opportunities
to play in the pros um and you just got
to continue to to just find other ways. You've got
to be very um, you got to look at the
situation and never expect anything to be certain, and always
try to be prepared for anything that could come in
front of you. But we're happy for them all that
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this will be. It started with Trey Burke and Tim
Hardaway went in thirteen as softwares and juniors. Then the
next year of sophomores Glenn Robinson, h nick Stoski said,
Mitch McGarry and then Caris LeVert did make it all
four years, but basically because of an injury and now
DJ Wilson. SIT's been something we didn't plan on. At
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the same time, we're happy for them, and it also
speaks to you, not just your development, but your system.
You know, a lot of the kind of the NBA
game has come around to kind of your system, and
you're one of the first in college basketball to not
just embrace the three point shop, but to take your
big guy and put him you know, go back to
when you're West Virginia and Kevin Pittsnoggle, I mean, think
about how valuable he would be in this NBA draft
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as opposed to when he came out in the NBA.
It feels like your system has allowed so many players
to flourish that it's it's a gift and a curse
at once. Well, yeah, Kevin, there has never been a
college player that could shoot the big manic could shoot
like Kevin Pittsnogle. I mean, Doug he had, he had
like two he averaged seventy three is a year. I
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think it was at least seventy three is a year
for a big man at cent or something. So he
was really elite at that. But I mean, um, you
know it was It's only it's necessity is the mother
of invention. It wasn't gonna be okay, we're just gonna
pound the ball into Pitt Snaggle or Mike Meeks was
really good Kinnisius for us and now this pastor Mova
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Mo Wagner DJ It is like you just got to
find a different way. And you've been coaching a long time.
You say there's more than one way to win. You
gotta find it, you gotta find how to do it,
and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But we still
we really we were really playing well even before that run,
you know, we had some really good games with where
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we'll be, some really good teams decisively and showed us
we had promised. We just couldn't put it all together
all the time until we got into February. Okay, So
here's the question. Coach John bielin joining us on the
Doug Gottlip Show. Um, the question becomes, what's the next
wave in college basketball? Like, what's the next? Because now,
like I said, I watched you play against my mono
Oakland State, and there though the offense is different, essentially
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the style is still the same. Right you have you
had Derek Walton, Uh, they had their own tremendous point
guard as well, and and the ideas creates space for
those dynamic ball there's get in the lane and if
you help, you kick out and you shoot it three
or you make a pass to whoever's open, and people
have copied what you're doing, and that's become that's become
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the norm. So what's the next what's the next step?
What's the next wave to to strike college basketball? I
don't I'm usually I don't know if I'm if I'm
that smart to be able to get out and get
in front of that stuff. I do see uh you
know the idea that people maybe picking back up full
court again to even soft presses even more. Just with
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the thirty second shackle, I think that changed us a
little bit. Um that that we are with the third second,
we have to move, we have to get the ball
out quicker, we have to do things quicker, uh two,
so that we have more options with the ball. But
right right now, I think switching every ball screen is
a new wave. That that's what really helped us be
really good at the end. People switch to every ball
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screen and that's where Derek Walton we just challenge them,
say Derek, they don't think you go buy a seven
footer or shoot over a seven footer. It's time And
he did every bit of that. So I think that
if the next way defensively switching everything and and stop
getting in all these rotations on ball screens because it's
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really hard. Uh you know they people work at close
out drills all day. Anytime you're in a long close out,
you're in trouble. So how can you avoid that switch? Um? Okay,
So there's there's several of the things that I need
to get to. John Beelin joinus. You mentioned the thirteen team. Obviously,
it was a really tough call that went against Trey
Burke in that in that game. But now Louisville is
talking about having to give back wins because of the
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probation that they're on. Let's say that they used ineligible
players in the thirteen championship game based upon this most
recent ruling, would you get national championship rings for your team?
I don't think so. Now I don't think so. I
think that you know, we had we had They beat
us fair as square in a game. I'm not going
to go into you know, what their their issues were there.
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It's it's it's a basketball game, and we we had
a we had a tough game. We did with the
brakes did not go our way, but sometimes we had
some wins where the Brakes went all our way. So
it didn't work out. But we're not going to look
it back and ask for anything else. Our kids gave
us everything I had, and you know, each kid was
as a special player. It was a special season and
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it actually led to the next year where we won
the Big Ten championship with many of those guys that
made them all better and several in the Pros because
of those that runs. So now we all have the
n c A and Louisville can do their thing. Michigan
is just gonna keep staying on path be the best
program we can be. I mentioned all the players Nick's doscas.
Of course you lost that. There's others that you've lost
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to the pros. Of all the players, Tim Hardway Jrs.
Having at least statistically the best impact. We mentioned Trey Burke,
who came back would have been a first round pick,
came back, had that spectacular year, and then obviously was
a was a lottery pick. Um. I guess this is
two different questions I want to ask you in order.
The first is like, is your system artificially inflating how
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good these players are? Like if I'm an NBA scout,
do I sit there and go like, he looks great,
but beeline helps him look great? Like? How do you
how do you handle that narrative that some of your
players have looked better playing for you than they have
at the next level. Oh man, I don't know how
I handle it. I just I you know, Doug, I
think you know. I've never been assistant coach, so I
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continue to evolve as a coach um and try to
put our guys in the best positions. The pros are
too smart for that. They're gonna look through all that.
And you know, I think the kids are so young
o the NBA. I think it's taken all our guys
time to adjust, um, and it took Tim time to adjust.
He's playing really well. But Carris Leverton that was stayed
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four years in college and watched it more. He was
probably more equipped at that time. But uh, you know,
if you if people think that it's great, but I
think the pro the pro scouts are much too smart
to be tricked by any system. It's just a it's
a pro system in many respects. But I think it's
the off the court culture that is that we have.
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The type of young men that we've had have been
very attractive to a lot of pro teams. When they
interview our guys, I think they get they get the
sense that this kid is is not only a good player,
he's going to be a good representative of their teams.
I've noticed that you haven't quite caught up with coach
hardball in terms of your social media presence and some
and something stuff. Are you gonna be milking cows or
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sleep And every time I do a tweet, it takes
me about twenty minutes to do it. And I said,
I don't have this time in my life to do it.
But if there's something important I can do, I'm gonna
do it. But it's not he's gonna win that race
every time. I'm not going to compete on that stage.
I'm just gonna continue to try to do the best
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I can to to make sure that we're great representatives
of of what I think is the greatest university in
the world. Um, d J. Wilson. You mentioned him and
how he averaged three points a game his sophomore year.
He blew up not just the years this year, but
late he started to really really improve. Give me your
and obviously he's your guy. You you like your guys
more than anybody else's guys. What's a reasonable expectation for
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his ceiling? Oh? Just here's what. Here's what we try
to predict and recruiting and we don't know it all
and proticting with the pros as well, is who who's
like maximized, who's sort of it where they got to be,
you know, and who's you know, whether it's their birthday,
whether they're shaving yet, whether always either who's still growing?
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This kid is in the last during times of the year,
there was no question in my mind he could be
a pro. How soon? Who would know? And those last
six seven games he was embracing contact really well. He's
just on his way to be a really good player
because and plus he can really shoot, really shoot, So
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you put all those things that gather with his defense
and now he's out letting. He's do a thing. He's
just he's like a lot of the younger you know,
he's twenty one, he's got a body of a nineteen
year old. He's got as far as experience, he's in
that area to where the best is yet to come
for him. And he's a super kid on and off
(38:19):
the court. Everybody's gonna love to coach him, very coachable.
It's gonna be whoever gets him is going to be
very fortunate. Uh And like most young kids, he's got
to grow and he will because he's really a very
teachable student. Well, I know it's a big couple of
weeks for you, not just wrapping up to being recruiting,
getting into summer, but with all Jordan your former assistant
got the butler job. Now you get ready to Now
(38:40):
you're getting ready to uh to have some more of
your players getting ready for the NBA. Big time for
your coach. Congrats another spectacularity and more than anything, thanks
for paying the picture of what it's like to be
the head coach of Michigan being our guests on Fox
Sports Radio, Well, thank you very much. And I gotta
let you know you inspired my team when you picked
Oklahoma State. You know what, they had no chance, Doug,
they had no asked. One star guy saw your quote,
(39:01):
So I thank you for that as well. I gotta
tell you I I wouldn't expect anything else from a graduate. No,
not just that, not not just that. I thought that was.
That was as good a basketball game as I can remember.
Like it was a great game. I don't I don't know,
like there wasn't There was a ton of defense, but
it wasn't because it was bad defense. Just know, everybody's
making shots and how can you stay in front of Evans?
I mean it was. It was absolutely crazy and Brad
(39:22):
did a great job with those guys and now he's
in the league and I you know, I uh, I
walked up the court and say, damn, I hope I
never see play against one of his teams again. And
in two days he was in our league. So it
was a great basketball game. Two really good programs and uh,
I'm glad we were able to get that. W coach,
thanks so much for doing us all right. Thanks. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leaps
(39:44):
Show weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. I watched
Nolan Arnando do something which he's cool, but it's kind
of overrated, right, Like to me, the most it was
overrated accomplished in baseball is probably the no hitter because
you can lose the game, you can walk as many
(40:07):
people as you want, errors like, there's a little bit
of luck to it as well. The defense has to
really pick you up, and it's more of a team.
It can be more of a team thing. Like, not
all no hitters are created equal. Now Don Larson pitched
a no hitter in the World Series. That's impressive. No
hitter on a Wednesday in Seattle, or no hitter from
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a star pitcher in September when there's a forty man
roster in Collops not all not crazy with seven walks, right,
and a couple of booted balls and several turn double
plays and the defense just diving and making like it's
not really that impressive. But a no hitter in the
World Series for Don Larson winning the game, that's impressive.
(40:55):
Nolan Arnado hit a hit for the cycle yesterday for
the Colorado right keys, Okay, okay, Like that's cool and
there's a certain skill to it. Now it should be
pointed out that what I think people don't understand about Colorado. Yes,
altitude does make the ball go further, so you are
going to hit more home runs. But are you aware
(41:18):
of how big that field is? You guys, do you
understand that like there's been there's been the same number
of there's been the same number of cycles since coors
Field came into existence as there has in the history
of Fenway Park, did you you guys hear what I said.
(41:41):
There are the same number of cycles in the modern
day history of coors Field, which is roughly twenty years old,
then in over a hundred years of Fenway Park. So
the reason for that is what's the hardest part of
the of the cycle. The triple, right, the triple triple
(42:05):
is really really hard. So if you get the triple,
like and you get the home run the single on
the double ran, that aren't crazy. It's I'm not saying
that getting them all in a game is an impressive
but like, let's not kill would you rather hit three
home runs in a game or the cycle home runs? Again,
it's more impressive. Three home runs in the game is
way more impressive. Frankly, two home runs in a game
(42:26):
is pretty damn impressive. Or a home run from each
side of the plate also more impressive. Like that stuff
is incredible. So I'm not totally diminishing a cycle, but
the cycle can be diminished when you're like, you know,
it's in course, it's a huge surface. Guy misplays a
ball and you get a triple you know, you know,
(42:50):
run and then single double like whatever. Now you're now
you're just you can see an i ground ball can
become a single and based upon position and you can
get a double as well. But much like Don Larson
pitching the no hitter in the World Series makes it
more impressive. Did you hear or did you see how
Nolan Arnado finished off the cycle? Molansen's pitch drive to
(43:15):
left failed, going back a slight art It's god. No,
Lanaranado gets the cycle with a walk off, three run
game winning homer. The Rockies sweep the Giants in a
(43:36):
four game series final score Rockies seven, Giants five. Yeah.
So that's on the Rockies Radio network. So I'm not
gonna sit here and tell you that that a cycle
is not impressive. It's impressive, but it's not like, oh
my god, a guy hit for the cycle. It'll happen
several times this year, and in Corse Field it's happened
(43:59):
there more than the other field. Not just that, but
he he ended the cycle, completed the cycle. Excuse me, right,
you complete the cycle, don't end it. You complete the
cycle hitting a walk off home run. Wait wait wait,
there's more to it, a walk off three run home run.
Wait wait wait, there's more to it. Now. I can't
(44:20):
tell you I know every reliever in the big leagues,
but I can tell you that Mark Mallanson is one
of the best relievers in Major League Baseball over the
past five years. Don't believe me. In two thousand thirteen,
and I will grant you that part of this he
has been at both a setup man and a closer
one point three nine r A one point nine r
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e r A, two point two three e r A
when he with Pittsburgh and fifteen when he had fifty
one saves on the year. Then remember traded mid season,
going back to last year with Pittsburgh at a one
point five one e r A and thirty saves, and
then seventeen saves with the Washington Nationals last year, so
he had forty seven saves with a combined one point
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six e r A. So again, the cycle is one thing,
ending it out a walk off, another thing, a walk
off three run home run. Another thing, a walk off
three run home run against one of the best closers
relief pictures in baseball over the past half decade. Who
oh yeah, throws right, Nolan Ardado hits right, so righty, righty,
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matchup is supposed to work out to the picture. That's
as about a good as cycle as you will ever see.
It's not quite Don Larson, it's not quite in the
World Series, but it's every bit as impressive. Even though
normally I'm not nearly as impressed by the cycle as
people would lead you to believe. Were like, oh, did
you hear your hit for the cycle,
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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