July 5, 2017 • 41 mins
Doug argues that signing Gordon Hayward may be nice, but there's another reason why Danny Ainge and the Celtics have won the NBA off season. He explains how the defending champs, Golden State Warriors, have managed to improve in the draft and free agency. Plus, Doug talks to Richie Incognito from the Buffalo Bills about the dangers of playing football and how much longer he expects Patriots QB Tom Brady to play.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the dun Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio Live and Direct this week from Jerusalem, Israel.
You're like, what, Yeah, well, uh, the epicenter for three
(00:24):
of the world's biggest religions is hosting gotlib because when
you think of Jerusalem, you think of Doug gottli But
I'm here. I'm coaching a team in what's called the
Maccabi Games. It's the um the Jewish Olympics. Anyway, we'll
get more to that. We'll speak more on kind of
the experiences I had over the weekend, as I hope
you had a very safe fourth July. We were with
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you Monday. I did predict that the Boston Celtics would
sign Gordon Hayward, but it's not because I had any
sort of inside knowledge. I know some many of the players,
and when I say players, I don't actually mean basketball
players the players in the particular story. But I didn't
have inside knowledge. I just like things that made sense.
And what's interesting about it, or maybe most interesting about
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it to me, is what Gordon Hayward wrote in his
UM Players Tribune piece, because in his players tribute piece,
he goes on and on and on and on, can
we get an editor? He goes on and on about Utah,
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you tell so great, you tell so wonderful. I remember
when I first moved. I was a kid, now was
a boy, Now I'm a man, And really, honestly, it
does come across as incredibly heartfelt, but at some point
it turns and he says, it was such a tough decision.
But there was one person I knew I could talk
to about it from every angle, who knew who I
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knew would give me the smartest and most honest perspective available,
Coach Stevens. Coach Stevens was so great about all of it,
helped me lay out my options, talk through from both sides,
but in the end, when when I needed it, he
also gave me my space. He also let me know
that it was my choice to make, that he would
be there for me on the other side of it
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either way, And of course I ended up deciding to leave.
I declared for the draft and got drafted. I started
my new life in the NBA. But it always meant
a lot to me to know how in that moment,
even with our lives of the strange crossroads together. Coach
Stevens was someone I could count on. He goes on
to say that Brad Stevens was the reason that he
signed with the Celtics. Again, I guess it's pretty crazy
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because seven years later, I'm making even tougher decision, and
again Coach Stevens and I found herself as the cross
roods together, and again he was the person I could
count on the most. And now I've decided to sign
with the Boston Celtics. First, I just I'm personally I'm
friends with Brad Stevens. He is everything he purports himself
to being, but the bond between college coach and college
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player from the time in which he recruits you and
you really are a boy and you start to grow
to that something in between boy and man in college,
it's an incredibly, uh incredible formidable time, right, Like that's
the guy who kind of parents you and your parents
aren't around, and Brad was great at it. But I
just I felt like, there's no way, no way that
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that guy can recruit you, that that guy can nurture you,
that that guy can help you make the decision to
go to the NBA and then lo and behold, you're
on a good team, a chance to get on a
potentially better team with a great historic background and the
same guy as the head coach, and you don't go
join him because when you listen to the recruiting pitches,
and Gordon Hayward said it, when you listen, it was like,
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look everyone that came in, I was like, man, I
should sign there. But the end, this world is about relationships.
It's about relationships. I have friends, they're the Pump Brothers.
They live in the valley. They're big basketball guys. They
throw this huge gala every year. If you know basketball,
you know the Pump Brothers. They're saying is it's about relationships,
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and it's true. You talked to basketball coaches, football coaches,
baseball coach, you talk to salespeople. I'm not in the
radio business. I'm in the people business. Radio is a relationship.
If you've been listening to the Doug Gottlieb Show when
it began during this time slot ten years ago at
two networks ago, you know that we have a relationship.
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You probably know my cares. Many of you who have
come up to me and said like, hey, I remember
when you called in because your kids were born, you
were gonna take a week off. I remember when your
son was born in the first day of the n
c A tournament three years later, Like, I remember that stuff.
I've let you in on my life. I've built up
the trust in you, and that's why you trust me
that even when on days in which it wanted a
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great show, you're like, look it just it's a familiar voice.
I'm more comfortable with the devil I know is so
much better than the devil. I don't if there's a
lesson to you out there, it's everything in this world
is based upon relationships. Who you know, what you know,
who you know more important excuse me, than what you know.
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The rest. You can kind of figure it out because
you have that. We talked about it last week, right
with um with the Minnesota Timberwolves. When the Timberwolves make
a trade and they go out and get Jimmy Butler,
there's the the trust built up between Tom Thibodeaux, who
runs the entire Timberwolves organization, and Jimmy Butler to where
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he's like, you could go play for Cleveland, but you
don't know really what that's like. You don't know what's
gonna happen. You don't know the future there where. Even
if the ceiling isn't as high in Minnesota, Hell, it's Minnesota,
it's gonna be called. Yes, they'll host the Super Bowl
next year and there'll be a ton of hype with
the two young stars that they're gonna surround Jimmy Butler with.
They're gonna try and remake things. It might work, it
might not work, whatever. But the devil you know is
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better than the w you don't. Those relationships are incredibly important,
and Brad Stevens relationship with Gordon Heyward, he had earned
word in Hayward's trust. At the end of the day,
it's about trust, and trust is built upon long term relationships.
Just the idea that Brad in college and Brad in
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the pros gave him. Hey, listen to your decision. Let
me give you some space. I'm with you either way.
He knew it's not necessarily how to play Gordon Hayward,
but he knew how to be the exact same guy
that he was as a when he took over for
that Matta excuse me. He took over for Todd lick
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Lighter and Todd Lookler was incredibly successful. Leaves goes to Iowa.
Brad Stevens was a relative unknown, super young assistant coach.
He takes over me. He looked like he had just
gotten out of college, which he was still in college.
They grew nurtured together and here they are, which brings
me to the biggest point. How foolish do you many
of my colleagues look? How foolish do many of you
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feel in questioning Danny age right? Like? Look, do I
think that Danny Ainge nails every decision in terms of
who he drafts? I do not. Danny Ainge has won
a championship with the Boston Celtics, and when those guys
got old, he dealt him at just the right moment,
and he he pulled off arguably the greatest trade in
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the history of the NBA. What accounts what amounts to
four first round draft picks, three of whom are are
gonna be uh top end lottery picks? And you say
four notes three, It's not true. This year he didn't
actually trade for the pick. He can't trade for back
to back first round picks. He traded for the right
to swap picks. And that's what they did, and next
year they get the first round pick. But while many
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were critical of him for not trading for Paul George
and hey, listen, as good as the Celtics look now,
imagine if they had Paul George. I can imagine it.
It's possible. It's still possible that he picks up the
phone now and says, hey, we would trade you for
Paul George. Look at what the thunder are putting together.
Are they trying to build a team of small forwards,
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powerful and centers, because that's where all of their talent
outside of Russell Westbrook is. But his primary target in
free agency was Gordon Hayward. That was the guy they wanted.
That's Brad's guy. It's a guy who they like how
they play and how he plays. It's a guy they
like his versatility and they knew they would be signing
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him up for multiple years as both sport. Paul George,
who's told everybody I want to play in l A.
He got his primary target and he held onto all
his assets. That's winning the alf season. If you set
the goal of all right, what do you want to do?
Is well, we'd really like you know. The dream scenario
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is if we get Gordon Hayward and we can hold
onto our picks. Boy, that'd be really cool. And um,
I don't know. I just checked the wire. So far
they got Gordon Hayward, they kept all their picks. Why
don't they trade for Paul George Because they didn't know
if when they were going to get Gordon Hayward. And two,
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if they to get Gordon Hayward, they needed to pull
off a signing trade. We need to have those assets
now they might have too many. They can still there's
nothing precluding them from using those assets to get even
more pieces from this point forward. But when you sit down,
like everybody sets goals, right you said, there's no part
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of successful people as you always have to continue to
set goals. I don't know if you know this, but people,
there's a high percentage of elderly who die right after
a birthday or die right after an anniversary. Do you
know why? Because it was a goal of theirs to
get to that birthday. Like Pap Pap Paul is gonna
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have his eightieth birthday celebration, Like, be careful how much
you celebrate for Pap Pa at eighty because like we've
just kind have been keeping him alive. He's been getting
already got his hair gushied up and he shaved and
then pop off aides in the souther. So that for why,
because he put that goal down. Like people are goal oriented,
they need some other mountain to climb. That's how that's
how we're wired. Sales people have sales goals nuts they
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need to hit right. And and to anybody who's I mean,
I've heard all across the board, well you know they're better,
but they're still not going to beat the calves. Dude.
The calves are a smoldering pile of doodoo right now,
right they just are. They're incredible, know what the calves are.
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I love bananas ramas. Do you like bananas? I do
enjoy a banana? Yes? Okay? Do you Are you a
grocery shopper? Like do you do the shopping your wife?
No? No No, no, Susan does a shopping. But I like
to go with her and kind of roam you you roam?
You don't you don't you don't correct her, you don't
go No, no no, no, honey, we don't like that kind
of milk. You don't do that. I do not, And
I trust my wife immensely with the food that is bought. Yes, okay,
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so when you pick out bananas or do you know
anything about picking out bananas? I do know that they
they should not be hard like, they need to be ripe.
Is that the yellowish or maybe like yellow green? But
everybody has their own sort of like music. You're still
a single guy, although you live kind of at home
or you or you do live in sin some so
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I'm not gonna do you do you? I know because
I track you when you drive my car. That's right,
that's right? So uh do you go pick out bananas
at the grocery store? Of course? Okay, So what's your
game like? Do you like them already yellow? Do you
like them super green and they develop into yellow? What's
what's your How do you pick out banana? I like
them to be already yellow, maybe a tiny tiny bit green,
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but mostly all yellow. Yeah, there's a Listen. Everybody has
their own way in bananas, only a pick in bananas.
Some people like them. I like them if in preference
of look if you can nail the perfect ripeness gray, right,
but if I had to, but no one actually nails
It's like it's very hard to nail the perfect ripeness.
But unlike watermelons, which everybody says, oh, you thump it
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and you can figure out like I nobody I know
can figure out how watermelon it's total luck. It's a
complete crapshoot. With bananas, you kind of know a little bit, right,
So what I do is a lot of times you
want the skin mostly to be yellow and then like
the seams of it, you know where the bends are
that to be green that way, if you, if you,
Because I get anytime I get food home, like I'm
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always hungry when I get home, like, oh man, I
just I gotta have a banana, right, you could still
eat it. It's not at its best, it's not at
its peak. I like them more light yellow than dark yellow.
With the cavaliers are is that dark yellow? Almost to brown?
And my mom's sitting here in the show. I'm sure
she's listening to the show in California. She's like, yeah,
you can use the brown bananas. You can put them
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in the freezer and use them for milkshakes, or you
can use them for banana bread. And she's right, they are.
But the thing about once they start to go brown,
once they start to get more brown on which is
the show, right, They don't taste good anymore. Well, once
the apple gets mealy, it doesn't taste good anymore. The
Cavaliers are closer to having they have some brown spots
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on them. They were the perfect banana over the past
two years, but they can't find anybody to be the president.
They keep running through jet they keep running through general managers. Uh,
they still have Lebron James. There's there's still some form
of awesomeness, but there's the feeling that they are close
to past their do date? Where's the Cavalier? Where's the
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Boston Celtics? Just got their target held onto all their assets,
and they are they They are the yellow banana with
the little green along the seams. They're not gonna be
perfect this year, but they're gonna be ripe soon. And
the Calves seem to be that overripe team. I just
I don't know. I haven't had a banana in a while,
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and so I thought about bananas, and that all made
sense to me. I don't know if it made sense
to you. So I like, banana's a great good potassium
as well. You know what we're gonna do We're gonna
let you make uh make your opinion known. What do
you think? What change for you? What is your feelings?
Coming up? Every year we have these big freeze bananza
And while you could say, well Lebron James didn't change places,
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or Kevin Durant, Chris Paul did, Chris Paul scherzected, Gordon
Hayward did, there's some movement. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three
pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. He's Richie on Cognito. He joins
us on the d G Show. He's a member of
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the Buffalo Bills. So Um, Richie's a bunch of things
to get to. I want to ask you about Tyrod
Taylor since you blocked for him. It feels like, obviously
it was a crazy contract that he was signed to
in terms of having this huge kind of lump sum
they had to rework it. Um, but it feels like
he's close and it feels like he's a guy that
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though most to us UM deemed him like one of
those backup quasi starters that guys in the locker room
feel like he's not really the issue holding back the
bills from breaking that playoffs streak. Give me your sense
of what it's like to play with Tyrod Taylor. Tyro
was a great guy. He really is, you know, at
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his core, he's a good person and a hard worker.
And I think that's why so many people in locker
really pulled for him, because he's literally the first one in,
last one out, always busting his tail, um, putting the
time in the effort, you know, to get this thing right.
And it's been tough. You know, we've been we've been
up and down. We've we finished right around five, we
finished a five his first seasons here, and it's it's
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really hard to depend on Tyrod when, um, you know,
we've had so much flux to our receiving core. You know,
he's had injuries, We've had guys in and out. You know,
he's had you know, kind of role player guys that
have had to step up and take on starting roles
to fill in for people. So it's, uh, it's it's
really fair to to say, you know, Tyrod is not
getting it done, but he's he's a hard working guy.
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He's very passionate about what he does, and you know
you see him making strides each and every day getting
better and you know, helping us when as many games
as possible. No, he does. I mean like, look, you
have to watch him and understand that. You know, he
hasn't started a long time in the NFL. Uh. Well,
what about for you? I mean, you know, you go
back a year ago, you signed that three year deal
after having uh spent time away from the NFL. What's
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it like for you to to go from kind of
persona non grata for a period of time to being
back as a mainstay with a team and and kind
of a leader in the locker room. What what's that
transition been like for you? You know, it's been incredible,
it really has. Um. I had the game taken away
from me a couple of years ago. I sat out
a year and it really lit a fire in my
belly and let me, you know, focus on some things
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off the field that that made me a better player
on the field. And Uh, now you've seen the culmination
of a lot of hard work, a lot of time,
a lot of preparation, and I'm having fun. I'm really
enjoying every day and I don't take it for granted,
I really enjoy the opportunity I've been afforded, and I
just want to make the most of it. Richie Incognito
joint is on the Doug Gottlib Show. There is something
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about having guys, um, you know you Tyrod, obviously completely
different backgrounds, different ways, but guys that are hungry, Guys
that are hungry to continue to prove themselves that whatever
the rap on them previously wasn't there. Um. But how
difficult is that to change as a new coaching staff
there's a new regime there. How difficult is that when
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you're still in Buffalo to maintain that hunger now that you,
like him, got a new contract. You know, I think
it's just wired into people like that, like us. You know,
that that hunger and that that passion, that fire, whatever
you want to call it. You know, it burns deep,
and it burns bright, it burns hot, and we just
want to be the best version of ourselves. We want
to be the best players that we can be. So well,
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that's in the off season, training, taking care of my body,
eating healthy, you know, doing all the things necessary. Two
peak level comes Sundays in the fall, and I think
it's important for a team to have, you know, you
have to have a good core of those guys, A
good chunk of your team has to be those prove
it everyday guys, those guys that are your bell cows
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at you know, every day you're getting the same person,
hard working, setting a great example for the young guys
on the team. And I think really coaches really like that,
you know, because they can point to those guys, they
can point to meet Kanya Williams, Tyrod Taylor, Eric Wood,
the rent of Alexander. We have a bunch of those
guys in Buffalo where you can say, hey, young guys,
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if you want to see what it looks like to
be a pro, just watch these guys. Yeah yeah, no,
Eric Wood, dude, he's a stud um. Okay, the Bills
Mafia with the stuff they do out in the parking lot.
I mean, do you guys have to be watching these
videos at some point in just crack cracking, Like, what's
what's the reaction when you see these videos and you're
checking them out on your phone before after the game.
You know, it's awesome. We love we love our fans,
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our fans, other die hearts. They they go through the
ups and downs, and they take it and take it
on the chin better than anybody. You know. Everyone's always
talking stuff about Buffalo, about how it's not a great
place to live and how the Bills having may playoffs,
but they show up every single Sunday ready to rock. Uh.
New air Field is one of the most unique places
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to play in all the NFL because it's much like
a college atmosphere and we love sitting around watching the
videos on Monday, you know, jumping through tables, lightening things
on fire, all the debauchery that goes down outside the stadium.
So um, they have a lot of They take a
lot of pride and being the most rawity fans in
the NFL, and it shows all Right, you've been in
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a different teams obviously Dolphins and Bills and never able
to topple the Patriots. I wanted your take on the
Tom Brady Gisele thing, where Gizl is like, you know,
he's had We're not supposed to talk about it, but
he's had some concussions, and then Tom Brady's like, you know, look,
she's just she's just a loving white It. It feels
to me like Giselle is trying to trying to trying
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to tell Tom Brady, d did we have you have
championship rings, but you have this family and I want
to spend my life with you. Do you get that
sense that she's trying to lay down the law a
little bit in outing him as having concussions to get
him to hang it up sooner rather than later. You know,
there may be some of that sentiment there. I read
into it as you know, just to slip awards, you know,
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just she maybe said something, you know, she wasn't really
sure about it and kind of let it slip and
didn't realize what a big story that that is. And um,
but yeah, I mean at some point you have to
start evaluating, you know, Tom, and just as to start evaluating, Like, listen,
you want a bunch of Super Bowls. You've had a
ton of success on the field, You've made a ton
of money, you have the TV twelve ventures off the field.
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At what point does the risk outweigh the reward and
at what point do you hang them up? And I
hope it's soon because the guy has been beating me
for thirteen years. So um, I hope, I hope he
hangs them up. And uh, we can finally take down
the Patriots. But Tom's a great player, He's a cornerstone
for the New England Patriots and he'll get to dictate
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what he's done playing. Yeah, no, it's it's it's fascinating
to watch because you're waiting to see slippage and you don't.
And it feels like they've gone all in on getting
free agents to load him up for another run or two.
Richie Incognito Jonius on on The Doug Gottlieb Show. I'm
I'm fascinated, Richie, absolutely fascinated, um by your ability to
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kind of balance that you still like. I think non
athletes don't understand why you have to have people that
have a little kind of nasty side to him, that
have people that have a sarcastic side, that you have
to have these vivid personalities at times in a locker room?
How how can you still be you and yet avoid
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some of the stuff that happened in Miami, Like how
do you how do you not feel like I don't
want to be somebody else. I want to be me
because the best version of me is the best football
player as well, and avoid whatever end up befelling you
when you're with the Dolphins. You know, it's it's incredibly difficult.
It's a it's a day by day challenge because you
do want to be yourself. You want to show that personality,
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and we spend so much time together that that personality
does come out. Um. But you know, learning from the
past and learning from steaks in Miami, just knowing when
to when to not push stuff too far and you
know when to crack a joke and you know when
to have fun. Um. Guys like Eric Wood and Kyle
Williams really made my transition, even Tyrod, because Tyrod and
I both came in together. We were working out in
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Arizona together before we both signed with the Buffalo Bills,
so I got to know Tyrod before he came in,
So both of our Buffalo stories they started at the
same time. But those guys afforded me the ability to
come in and be myself because they knew me personally,
they knew me before. And what I did was I
just I really hung with those guys, you know, I
really you know, I could be myself around them, but
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I wanted other guys in the locker room to be
comfortable with me. Um. You know, before you know you start.
You know, we're sitting a lot of time either before
you get into the jokes and stuff like that. And
the people with the edgy personality. I wanted people who
know me first. And uh, those guys did a tremendous job.
I really owed him a lot. They made my transition
to the locker room really easy. And uh, and now
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it's fun. You know, we're all family and I have
a lot of close personal relationships those guys, and uh,
it's all fun, all right. Yesterday was our Independence Day.
Today is your birthday. What do you doing for your
birthday celebration? We're relaxing a little recover from yesterday and uh,
we're about to head down to the beach, play a
little bacci and volleyball. Uh you you sushi guy? Like,
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what's the kind of like your go to go at meal?
That's it man, we're hitting no boom albut tonight for
the for the birthday celebration. So when you walk into Nobo,
do people know who you are? Like football? Football is
all about getting out from behind the mask, right, all
you guys are trying to Now you appear on TV.
I saw you on speak for yourself. Um, like, but
do people know who you are or do you do
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you like I mean, like the obviously your last aim incognito.
Do you like the fact that sometimes you can go
incognito and just be a dude who looks like the
world's toughest bouncer. Exactly right? You know what? Um you know,
the the incident that went down in two thousand and thirteen,
it was it was a blessing in disguise because for
an offensive lineman that plays in the NFL, you don't
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get a lot of face time. And when that thing
went down, my name and my face over all over
the tabloids, all over TV, and uh so, now you
know the name and the face recognition is is really
an all time high. You know, I do get recognized
pretty much everywhere I go, but I'm the largest guy
in the room with a baby face, and the tattoos
are a dead giveaway. Richie, Happy birthday, man, enjoy NOBU.
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Hopefully somebody else is picking up the tab I encourage you,
you know, listen, I know you're a big boy, but
encourage you to go brown rice. That kind of balances
out not a not as not as car, but not
as car blowed as the white rice. Happy Birthday. Thanks
for joining us. All right, thanks Doug. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug got Leaves Show weekday.
He said, three pm Easter noon, Pacific. Have you noticed
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what the Golden State Warriors are doing. The Golden State
Warriors are replacing Matt Barnes, who did not play in
the NBA. The only thing he's known for in the
playoffs was he said he didn't want to go to
Utah to play the Jazz in the playoffs because there
was nothing to do. And then and look, it's important
for Matt Barnes to find something to do off the
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court because he wasn't playing on the court. They replaced
him with Amri Caspy, who can shoot the ball, who
can pass the ball, who's a lot tougher than Matt
Barnes on the floor, even though he doesn't bring the
psycho tough guy image. Right, Um, And they're gonna replace
Ian Clark, who's a prolific three point shooter, with Nick Young,
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who's a better offensive player. And by the way, Ian
Clark is had to learn to become a good defensive player,
to which he's still very slight, and he wasn't particularly
skilled off the dribble, and yeah, Nick Young can be
a shot nut, but if they can dial that back,
he just has more talent. Uh. And then JaVale McGee
is a shop blocker they're replacing with Jordan Bell. So
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last year they drafted the big guy out of Vanderbilt.
He'll get to play this year. Pat McCall will continue
to develop like and of course I'm bringing back Andrea
Goodal and Sean Livingston, who are the two staples of
their top seven in the rotation. I think everybody thinks
that it's a staggnedant environment because Steph Curry resigned, Kevin
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Rent re signed, you still got Clanner contract, you still
got Draymond under contract. Um. And when you have those
four players, you can beat anybody. But when you have
to have a bench in order to win the regular season,
and two that bench has to there can't be the
dip that you have with other benches. And while two
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years ago they might have had their best bench, it
feels like this one's creeping up on it because of
the rules that they have established and the players they
could bring in to fill those rules. You still have Iggy,
you still have Sean Livingston, and as they begin to age.
You got the pop of Nick Young, the shooting and
skill and toughness of Amrie Caspy, and the shop blocking
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Jordan Bell, the length of Pat McCall. The Warriors kids
have gotten better. Don't let anybody tell you that they're
sitting there rusting on their laurels and opening up pistachios.
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oh sorry not that song? Doug Gotli Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Colin Coward had something interesting to say on a signing
which is huge money in the NBA for a player
that didn't have huge output in the NBA. Here's his
thoughts on the Auto Porter signing. Otto Porter just signed
a deal for over a hundred million dollars and JJ
Redical make twenty three million dollars a year for the
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Philadelphia seventies sixers, and last year Alan crab signed a
monster contract for Portland. Why did they sign those contracts?
Steph Curry? Steph Curry has changed this league. Guys who
are fifth best starter on a team that may win
one playoff series are signing monster contracts because they can
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suddenly hit three point shots. We've had the three point
shot in the NBA for over two decades. But a
little guy from Davidson proved that you don't have to
have a forty four in vertical, don't have to be
big strong. He broke in the league. He had really
weak ankles. But you change the face of the league.
Steph Curry did that. Yeah, I don't know if I'd
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get there. I mean, he's get out of order make threes. Yes,
he's got the highest percentage from three in the NBA
this year, but it's also his versatility offensively's fatility defensively.
He's twenty four years old. If you want to say
Steph Curry, it was that they missed on Steph Curry
and lucked out with the with his second country, his
second contract was four years, forty four million dollars as
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opposed to auto Porter and then, granted it's a completely
different scale now four years later, but auto Porter four years,
one hundred and six million dollars. That's uh, it's like
two and a quarter percent to two hundred uh and
more per year. Then Steph Curry was getting. It's it's
crazy money, um, And some of it's because a team
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like the Nets, teams like the Sixers, they have all
the cap room in the world, and you want to match,
you want to keep your guy, and especially when he's
twenty four. So do I think the three point shot
has become rightfully maybe overvalued? If if that's Collins comment, okay,
but I think that auto Porter doesn't relate to Steph
Curry as much as a three D guy, a versatile
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guy that ever changing the NBA. The weird thing about
Auto Border and this is a little bit like Harrison
Barnes last year he was terrible in the playoffs, terrible
a greatly improved shooter in the regular or the year
he really struggled in the in the playoffs shooting the basketball,
which is what he does best. I mean when when
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when when John Wall says, hey, we need to have
a big three or we need to have a bench,
and we need to have a big three in order
to compete, and this guy is signed for the money.
That's the type of he's He's telling you what we
all think. Auto Border is not a big three guy.
He's a fourth or fifth guy. But they paid third
guy money for him. That's the tale of the NBA,
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more so than Steph Curry. Steph Curry is why the
Warriors were able to go out and get another superstar
because he was only making forty four million dollars. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Our next
guest is a rookie. He's in the home run Derby.
He's leading the league at home runs. He's the fact
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he was the fastest player in Major League history to
hit one home runs in the season. He was also
uh the first thing he did in fifty two games.
He was the first rookie to hit ten home runs
in a ten game span. I mean, he's just smacking
the hell out of baseball. He's Coody Bellinger. He joins
us from the Dodgers on The Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Cody, how are you? I'm good? How
(31:22):
are you? Dude? Man? Um? If you were to describe
these last three months to a friend who you know, like,
I was backpacking in Europe and I didn't have a
cell phone, Like, how's it going? How would you describe it?
I don't know what there is a word? Um, but
it's been uh kind of his dream come true, I guess.
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And you know, for me, I just trying to enjoy
every day and keep it going. How do you how
do you get to the point where you're not trying
to hit a home run? Right? That's the that's the
every dad ever trying to teach his son. And obviously
you know there's a process to your swing, but there
does come to a point to which you're like, you
just keep hitting him. How do you get to the
(32:04):
point to which you're not trying to lift the ball,
you're not trying to hit home runs? Yeah, That's when
I get in trouble is when I try and hit
home runs. Um, I'm usually more effective when I think,
you know, hit the ball hard wherever it's fished. And
I mean, yeah, the key to hit home runs is
not trying. And if you try, you're you're you're gonna
missles than you want. And I fall into the habitat sometimes,
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but I think that's that's everyone. Um, your brother, your
brother Cole, Right, he's a he's he can pitch, is
he is he throwing BPD you, is he throwing to
you in the home run derby? Who's gonna throw to you?
My dad? My dad's gonna throw. Okay, So he's getting
time off from being a volunteer firefight and I saw
that you you told people in Glendale, Uh in there,
(32:47):
I mean, excuse me in Arizona to not burn anything down,
Like can you can you guarantee that happens that that
that that he's not called a duty. What if he
gets called a duty, He's just the normal shift. They
covered his shift. And yeah, I'll probably give him the
sign ball whoever if they want one. If not, they
just you know, they helped him out a lot and
we appreciate it. And Cody Belling, you're joining us on
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the Doug Gottlip Show. What's changed with this team? You
guys have been playing so much better ball of late. Um,
I mean, you know, Kershaw is Kershaw and you have
some other weapons that they've had previously. But obviously with
the wins and losses, something changed. What was it? I
don't know if we can point one thing, but I
mean you said that our starting pitching has been no
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phenomenal and our offense has been clicking left of your righty. Um.
And we have a good thing going. We're having fun
with it. Um. And yeah, we're just trying to trying
to enjoy the right as long as a camp. Okay,
So Josh Turner is part of this final vote. Obviously,
that's one of the reasons you're joining us. You look
at the batting average, like three, Justin Turmo said, Josh
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Turns the country singer. My bad, dude, Justin Turner, he's
hitting he's hitting three eight three. Um. I know there's
there have been some who have said, hey, your fans
have to step up, give me the pitch. You see
him every day. Why should just In turn to be
an All Star? He's a he's the best you know,
third base, and I've seen defensively, Uh, he makes unbelievable plays.
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And I think that goes unnoticed. And I mean you
said he's in three five with a week less than
the MLB's first ass that's uh really hard to do. Um.
And I think he's the best third base when that's
not the All Star Game, And so I think he
deserves to go. You look, you play all over, you
play left, but you also can play Uh. Some first base.
I wanted to ask you about tweeners. I was talking
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to Matt Holiday's played some first base this year. He's
in left field, that's learned the place. Um, okay, so
ball's coming for tweeners or people don't know, like how
you know, if it hits the grass, it's gonna pop
up right, But and you can't scoop it. It's like
in between the grass and popping up and hitting the dirt.
So it so it. You know, how how do you
judge and how do you approach a tweener in your
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first base? Yeah? You said those are the first one. Um.
You know, depending on who's throwing and how hard to throw,
you can either you know, scoop back his death and
catch up behind the base, or you can you know,
try and semi get lucky and you know, try and
picket and guess where we're it's gonna bounce. It's a
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it's an absolute artful skill. The other thing is I've
always wondered you're out there in left field and Clayton
Kershaw is on the mound. Now part of you probably like, look,
I gotta make a play because curse is you know
kind of depending on us. Um, and you know we
need to we need, you know, for for his uh,
we needed to stand up defensively for him. But do
you ever catch yourself just watching him, you know, just
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like I'm sitting here watching the greatest left handed pitcher,
maybe since or maybe better than Sandy Kofax we've had
in baseball. I'm just wondering, as a guy who grew
up around the game, dad a former pro, if you
catch yourself just watching a guy work and you lose
track of the actual game, I think, oh, yeah, honestly
when you're in between the lines. No, not really. But
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I actually was on the bench um one game when
he was starting, I believe, and that's when I kind
of like he had another whatever kind of strike up game,
whatever it was for him. And that's when I was like,
this is this is crazy. It happens a lot. And
uh that's kind of when I kind of got to
experience us in a moment. All Right, you got twenty
four home runs already, But I don't want like it's
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gotta be weird for you, Like do you want to
what are you as a hitter? Like, what is in
five years when you've been in the pros for five years.
What should we expect? Is this? What is this what
we should expect? Or should we expect? You know, more
more on the on base and more higher in terms
of average, Like who are you really as a hitter?
I wish I knew. I think I'm still you know,
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learning the kind of hitter I am. Um, I don't
know if I'll be able to have a stretch like
I did again. You know, maybe that will, but that
was you know, it's pretty crazy, and the game of
baseball was really hard. So I'm just gonna you know,
for me, I picked my in mind drive approach as
much as I can, and uh, you know, hopefully some
balls it out, but hopefully I can have some more
double All right, Listen, when you get to that home
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run derby, don't try and keep up with Aaron Judge
and the monster shots. It's a marathon, not a sprint, right,
So even if they skim the right, even if they
skim the top of the rail, it doesn't matter that
they count. He can hit a five hundred foot shot.
It's about volume of home runs, It's about conditioning. It's
a marathon, not a sprint. And make sure now now
your dad's not gonna buzz the tower on you is
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He's not gonna go high and tight, is he? That's
kind of where I wanted. So yeah, thank you? All right,
you can you gotta vote for Justin Turner to be
that for that final vote. Remember its vote j T,
Vote j T. If you want to see another Dodger
in the All Star Game, Cody, keep it up, enjoy
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that free tip to Miami, and hopefully your dad throws
them exactly what you want them and you put them
out into right field. Right yeah? How think yes? Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leaps
Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon, Pa Ciffic,
we're such a participation trophy comp country that we have
to give an All Star to every team. Why, explained
(38:09):
to me, all Star man. It's not hard find the
best players in baseball put them on the field. Part
of what's the the allure that's lost the All Star
Game is like, you guys know when they moved the
Astros to the American League that they had fifteen American
fifteen Nationals. You guys, everybody realizes that what it does
(38:30):
in baseball, right, You're like, what what do you mean?
Was it doing baseball. Well, if there's fifteen in one
league and fifteen and the other and everybody's playing in
a series, that means there's always inter league games. I
think it's awful. I think it's terrible. Now they tried
to make it equitable, making hey, look we've got five
divisions of three and we got three division winners, and
(38:50):
then we got two wild cards, and the wild cards
played to play in game. Like all of that makes sense.
The problem with it is that inter league used. When
inter league first came in, it was really cool, but
it was a specific like alright, Memorial Day weekend, we'll
have interor league play four the July, well of interal
league play like there was said inter league. Now there's
an inter league series every every series. It has to
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be statistically um and I think it takes away from it.
But the other thing is that because now you see
these guys coming into your park you didn't have back
in the eighties and the early nineties. You wouldn't see well.
Back back in the eighties, especially in early nights before
for interal league and even in italygue you didn't see
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these guys coming in your park every year, and you
couldn't see him on TV. Now, Like if you get
the Major League Baseball pack, if you're really a baseball fan,
you can see these guys play any night of the week.
Everybody has their own RS and their own regional sports
network to which you can watch the Fox Sports, you know, Southwest,
Fox Sports, Northeast, whatever, and watch your team play, or
(39:52):
watch a team player watch the best play. You wanta
watch Bryce Harper, you can watch Bryce Harper every day
of the week. You want to watch Pat Nich, you
can watch Jack every day of the week. I don't
think anyone wants to. There's nobody wants to watch. Pattie's
family is like, oh god, now we have to watch
the game because he might get into the seventh inning.
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Like like Baseball's All Star Game doesn't work because you're
never gonna see Clayton Kershaw goes seven innings. You're never
gonna really see the best of the best. They start,
you know, taking guys out after the third inning. You know,
Derek Jeter was on his on his plane, his private
plane to his vacation while the game's still going on.
Like these things just it's never what it could be.
Basketball should have the best All Star Game, but they
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don't play any defense they could because it's not gonna
hurt them, whereas baseball you're so concerned about players arms
that you're not gonna do that. But this idea that
we have to have an All Star from every team
is the most participation sport like deal in professional sports history,
and there's there's no statistical proof that shows any one
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person would ever watch the game simply because their knees
shack is somehow, maybe possibly could to get put in
in the waning innings of an All Star game you
couldn't possibly care less about
This is the best of the dun Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio Live and Direct this week from Jerusalem, Israel.
You're like, what, Yeah, well, uh, the epicenter for three
(00:24):
of the world's biggest religions is hosting gotlib because when
you think of Jerusalem, you think of Doug gottli But
I'm here. I'm coaching a team in what's called the
Maccabi Games. It's the um the Jewish Olympics. Anyway, we'll
get more to that. We'll speak more on kind of
the experiences I had over the weekend, as I hope
you had a very safe fourth July. We were with
(00:46):
you Monday. I did predict that the Boston Celtics would
sign Gordon Hayward, but it's not because I had any
sort of inside knowledge. I know some many of the players,
and when I say players, I don't actually mean basketball
players the players in the particular story. But I didn't
have inside knowledge. I just like things that made sense.
And what's interesting about it, or maybe most interesting about
(01:08):
it to me, is what Gordon Hayward wrote in his
UM Players Tribune piece, because in his players tribute piece,
he goes on and on and on and on, can
we get an editor? He goes on and on about Utah,
(01:30):
you tell so great, you tell so wonderful. I remember
when I first moved. I was a kid, now was
a boy, Now I'm a man, And really, honestly, it
does come across as incredibly heartfelt, but at some point
it turns and he says, it was such a tough decision.
But there was one person I knew I could talk
to about it from every angle, who knew who I
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knew would give me the smartest and most honest perspective available,
Coach Stevens. Coach Stevens was so great about all of it,
helped me lay out my options, talk through from both sides,
but in the end, when when I needed it, he
also gave me my space. He also let me know
that it was my choice to make, that he would
be there for me on the other side of it
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either way, And of course I ended up deciding to leave.
I declared for the draft and got drafted. I started
my new life in the NBA. But it always meant
a lot to me to know how in that moment,
even with our lives of the strange crossroads together. Coach
Stevens was someone I could count on. He goes on
to say that Brad Stevens was the reason that he
signed with the Celtics. Again, I guess it's pretty crazy
(02:35):
because seven years later, I'm making even tougher decision, and
again Coach Stevens and I found herself as the cross
roods together, and again he was the person I could
count on the most. And now I've decided to sign
with the Boston Celtics. First, I just I'm personally I'm
friends with Brad Stevens. He is everything he purports himself
to being, but the bond between college coach and college
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player from the time in which he recruits you and
you really are a boy and you start to grow
to that something in between boy and man in college,
it's an incredibly, uh incredible formidable time, right, Like that's
the guy who kind of parents you and your parents
aren't around, and Brad was great at it. But I
just I felt like, there's no way, no way that
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that guy can recruit you, that that guy can nurture you,
that that guy can help you make the decision to
go to the NBA and then lo and behold, you're
on a good team, a chance to get on a
potentially better team with a great historic background and the
same guy as the head coach, and you don't go
join him because when you listen to the recruiting pitches,
and Gordon Hayward said it, when you listen, it was like,
(03:41):
look everyone that came in, I was like, man, I
should sign there. But the end, this world is about relationships.
It's about relationships. I have friends, they're the Pump Brothers.
They live in the valley. They're big basketball guys. They
throw this huge gala every year. If you know basketball,
you know the Pump Brothers. They're saying is it's about relationships,
(04:04):
and it's true. You talked to basketball coaches, football coaches,
baseball coach, you talk to salespeople. I'm not in the
radio business. I'm in the people business. Radio is a relationship.
If you've been listening to the Doug Gottlieb Show when
it began during this time slot ten years ago at
two networks ago, you know that we have a relationship.
(04:26):
You probably know my cares. Many of you who have
come up to me and said like, hey, I remember
when you called in because your kids were born, you
were gonna take a week off. I remember when your
son was born in the first day of the n
c A tournament three years later, Like, I remember that stuff.
I've let you in on my life. I've built up
the trust in you, and that's why you trust me
that even when on days in which it wanted a
(04:46):
great show, you're like, look it just it's a familiar voice.
I'm more comfortable with the devil I know is so
much better than the devil. I don't if there's a
lesson to you out there, it's everything in this world
is based upon relationships. Who you know, what you know,
who you know more important excuse me, than what you know.
(05:06):
The rest. You can kind of figure it out because
you have that. We talked about it last week, right
with um with the Minnesota Timberwolves. When the Timberwolves make
a trade and they go out and get Jimmy Butler,
there's the the trust built up between Tom Thibodeaux, who
runs the entire Timberwolves organization, and Jimmy Butler to where
(05:28):
he's like, you could go play for Cleveland, but you
don't know really what that's like. You don't know what's
gonna happen. You don't know the future there where. Even
if the ceiling isn't as high in Minnesota, Hell, it's Minnesota,
it's gonna be called. Yes, they'll host the Super Bowl
next year and there'll be a ton of hype with
the two young stars that they're gonna surround Jimmy Butler with.
They're gonna try and remake things. It might work, it
might not work, whatever. But the devil you know is
(05:51):
better than the w you don't. Those relationships are incredibly important,
and Brad Stevens relationship with Gordon Heyward, he had earned
word in Hayward's trust. At the end of the day,
it's about trust, and trust is built upon long term relationships.
Just the idea that Brad in college and Brad in
(06:11):
the pros gave him. Hey, listen to your decision. Let
me give you some space. I'm with you either way.
He knew it's not necessarily how to play Gordon Hayward,
but he knew how to be the exact same guy
that he was as a when he took over for
that Matta excuse me. He took over for Todd lick
(06:32):
Lighter and Todd Lookler was incredibly successful. Leaves goes to Iowa.
Brad Stevens was a relative unknown, super young assistant coach.
He takes over me. He looked like he had just
gotten out of college, which he was still in college.
They grew nurtured together and here they are, which brings
me to the biggest point. How foolish do you many
of my colleagues look? How foolish do many of you
(06:54):
feel in questioning Danny age right? Like? Look, do I
think that Danny Ainge nails every decision in terms of
who he drafts? I do not. Danny Ainge has won
a championship with the Boston Celtics, and when those guys
got old, he dealt him at just the right moment,
and he he pulled off arguably the greatest trade in
(07:17):
the history of the NBA. What accounts what amounts to
four first round draft picks, three of whom are are
gonna be uh top end lottery picks? And you say
four notes three, It's not true. This year he didn't
actually trade for the pick. He can't trade for back
to back first round picks. He traded for the right
to swap picks. And that's what they did, and next
year they get the first round pick. But while many
(07:39):
were critical of him for not trading for Paul George
and hey, listen, as good as the Celtics look now,
imagine if they had Paul George. I can imagine it.
It's possible. It's still possible that he picks up the
phone now and says, hey, we would trade you for
Paul George. Look at what the thunder are putting together.
Are they trying to build a team of small forwards,
(07:59):
powerful and centers, because that's where all of their talent
outside of Russell Westbrook is. But his primary target in
free agency was Gordon Hayward. That was the guy they wanted.
That's Brad's guy. It's a guy who they like how
they play and how he plays. It's a guy they
like his versatility and they knew they would be signing
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him up for multiple years as both sport. Paul George,
who's told everybody I want to play in l A.
He got his primary target and he held onto all
his assets. That's winning the alf season. If you set
the goal of all right, what do you want to do?
Is well, we'd really like you know. The dream scenario
(08:41):
is if we get Gordon Hayward and we can hold
onto our picks. Boy, that'd be really cool. And um,
I don't know. I just checked the wire. So far
they got Gordon Hayward, they kept all their picks. Why
don't they trade for Paul George Because they didn't know
if when they were going to get Gordon Hayward. And two,
(09:03):
if they to get Gordon Hayward, they needed to pull
off a signing trade. We need to have those assets
now they might have too many. They can still there's
nothing precluding them from using those assets to get even
more pieces from this point forward. But when you sit down,
like everybody sets goals, right you said, there's no part
(09:28):
of successful people as you always have to continue to
set goals. I don't know if you know this, but people,
there's a high percentage of elderly who die right after
a birthday or die right after an anniversary. Do you
know why? Because it was a goal of theirs to
get to that birthday. Like Pap Pap Paul is gonna
(09:48):
have his eightieth birthday celebration, Like, be careful how much
you celebrate for Pap Pa at eighty because like we've
just kind have been keeping him alive. He's been getting
already got his hair gushied up and he shaved and
then pop off aides in the souther. So that for why,
because he put that goal down. Like people are goal oriented,
they need some other mountain to climb. That's how that's
how we're wired. Sales people have sales goals nuts they
(10:13):
need to hit right. And and to anybody who's I mean,
I've heard all across the board, well you know they're better,
but they're still not going to beat the calves. Dude.
The calves are a smoldering pile of doodoo right now,
right they just are. They're incredible, know what the calves are.
(10:38):
I love bananas ramas. Do you like bananas? I do
enjoy a banana? Yes? Okay? Do you Are you a
grocery shopper? Like do you do the shopping your wife?
No? No No, no, Susan does a shopping. But I like
to go with her and kind of roam you you roam?
You don't you don't you don't correct her, you don't
go No, no no, no, honey, we don't like that kind
of milk. You don't do that. I do not, And
I trust my wife immensely with the food that is bought. Yes, okay,
(11:01):
so when you pick out bananas or do you know
anything about picking out bananas? I do know that they
they should not be hard like, they need to be ripe.
Is that the yellowish or maybe like yellow green? But
everybody has their own sort of like music. You're still
a single guy, although you live kind of at home
or you or you do live in sin some so
(11:22):
I'm not gonna do you do you? I know because
I track you when you drive my car. That's right,
that's right? So uh do you go pick out bananas
at the grocery store? Of course? Okay, So what's your
game like? Do you like them already yellow? Do you
like them super green and they develop into yellow? What's
what's your How do you pick out banana? I like
them to be already yellow, maybe a tiny tiny bit green,
(11:47):
but mostly all yellow. Yeah, there's a Listen. Everybody has
their own way in bananas, only a pick in bananas.
Some people like them. I like them if in preference
of look if you can nail the perfect ripeness gray, right,
but if I had to, but no one actually nails
It's like it's very hard to nail the perfect ripeness.
But unlike watermelons, which everybody says, oh, you thump it
(12:07):
and you can figure out like I nobody I know
can figure out how watermelon it's total luck. It's a
complete crapshoot. With bananas, you kind of know a little bit, right,
So what I do is a lot of times you
want the skin mostly to be yellow and then like
the seams of it, you know where the bends are
that to be green that way, if you, if you,
Because I get anytime I get food home, like I'm
(12:28):
always hungry when I get home, like, oh man, I
just I gotta have a banana, right, you could still
eat it. It's not at its best, it's not at
its peak. I like them more light yellow than dark yellow.
With the cavaliers are is that dark yellow? Almost to brown?
And my mom's sitting here in the show. I'm sure
she's listening to the show in California. She's like, yeah,
you can use the brown bananas. You can put them
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in the freezer and use them for milkshakes, or you
can use them for banana bread. And she's right, they are.
But the thing about once they start to go brown,
once they start to get more brown on which is
the show, right, They don't taste good anymore. Well, once
the apple gets mealy, it doesn't taste good anymore. The
Cavaliers are closer to having they have some brown spots
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on them. They were the perfect banana over the past
two years, but they can't find anybody to be the president.
They keep running through jet they keep running through general managers. Uh,
they still have Lebron James. There's there's still some form
of awesomeness, but there's the feeling that they are close
to past their do date? Where's the Cavalier? Where's the
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Boston Celtics? Just got their target held onto all their assets,
and they are they They are the yellow banana with
the little green along the seams. They're not gonna be
perfect this year, but they're gonna be ripe soon. And
the Calves seem to be that overripe team. I just
I don't know. I haven't had a banana in a while,
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and so I thought about bananas, and that all made
sense to me. I don't know if it made sense
to you. So I like, banana's a great good potassium
as well. You know what we're gonna do We're gonna
let you make uh make your opinion known. What do
you think? What change for you? What is your feelings?
Coming up? Every year we have these big freeze bananza
And while you could say, well Lebron James didn't change places,
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or Kevin Durant, Chris Paul did, Chris Paul scherzected, Gordon
Hayward did, there's some movement. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three
pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. He's Richie on Cognito. He joins
us on the d G Show. He's a member of
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the Buffalo Bills. So Um, Richie's a bunch of things
to get to. I want to ask you about Tyrod
Taylor since you blocked for him. It feels like, obviously
it was a crazy contract that he was signed to
in terms of having this huge kind of lump sum
they had to rework it. Um, but it feels like
he's close and it feels like he's a guy that
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though most to us UM deemed him like one of
those backup quasi starters that guys in the locker room
feel like he's not really the issue holding back the
bills from breaking that playoffs streak. Give me your sense
of what it's like to play with Tyrod Taylor. Tyro
was a great guy. He really is, you know, at
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his core, he's a good person and a hard worker.
And I think that's why so many people in locker
really pulled for him, because he's literally the first one in,
last one out, always busting his tail, um, putting the
time in the effort, you know, to get this thing right.
And it's been tough. You know, we've been we've been
up and down. We've we finished right around five, we
finished a five his first seasons here, and it's it's
(15:42):
really hard to depend on Tyrod when, um, you know,
we've had so much flux to our receiving core. You know,
he's had injuries, We've had guys in and out. You know,
he's had you know, kind of role player guys that
have had to step up and take on starting roles
to fill in for people. So it's, uh, it's it's
really fair to to say, you know, Tyrod is not
getting it done, but he's he's a hard working guy.
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He's very passionate about what he does, and you know
you see him making strides each and every day getting
better and you know, helping us when as many games
as possible. No, he does. I mean like, look, you
have to watch him and understand that. You know, he
hasn't started a long time in the NFL. Uh. Well,
what about for you? I mean, you know, you go
back a year ago, you signed that three year deal
after having uh spent time away from the NFL. What's
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it like for you to to go from kind of
persona non grata for a period of time to being
back as a mainstay with a team and and kind
of a leader in the locker room. What what's that
transition been like for you? You know, it's been incredible,
it really has. Um. I had the game taken away
from me a couple of years ago. I sat out
a year and it really lit a fire in my
belly and let me, you know, focus on some things
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off the field that that made me a better player
on the field. And Uh, now you've seen the culmination
of a lot of hard work, a lot of time,
a lot of preparation, and I'm having fun. I'm really
enjoying every day and I don't take it for granted,
I really enjoy the opportunity I've been afforded, and I
just want to make the most of it. Richie Incognito
joint is on the Doug Gottlib Show. There is something
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about having guys, um, you know you Tyrod, obviously completely
different backgrounds, different ways, but guys that are hungry, Guys
that are hungry to continue to prove themselves that whatever
the rap on them previously wasn't there. Um. But how
difficult is that to change as a new coaching staff
there's a new regime there. How difficult is that when
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you're still in Buffalo to maintain that hunger now that you,
like him, got a new contract. You know, I think
it's just wired into people like that, like us. You know,
that that hunger and that that passion, that fire, whatever
you want to call it. You know, it burns deep,
and it burns bright, it burns hot, and we just
want to be the best version of ourselves. We want
to be the best players that we can be. So well,
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that's in the off season, training, taking care of my body,
eating healthy, you know, doing all the things necessary. Two
peak level comes Sundays in the fall, and I think
it's important for a team to have, you know, you
have to have a good core of those guys, A
good chunk of your team has to be those prove
it everyday guys, those guys that are your bell cows
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at you know, every day you're getting the same person,
hard working, setting a great example for the young guys
on the team. And I think really coaches really like that,
you know, because they can point to those guys, they
can point to meet Kanya Williams, Tyrod Taylor, Eric Wood,
the rent of Alexander. We have a bunch of those
guys in Buffalo where you can say, hey, young guys,
(18:38):
if you want to see what it looks like to
be a pro, just watch these guys. Yeah yeah, no,
Eric Wood, dude, he's a stud um. Okay, the Bills
Mafia with the stuff they do out in the parking lot.
I mean, do you guys have to be watching these
videos at some point in just crack cracking, Like, what's
what's the reaction when you see these videos and you're
checking them out on your phone before after the game.
You know, it's awesome. We love we love our fans,
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our fans, other die hearts. They they go through the
ups and downs, and they take it and take it
on the chin better than anybody. You know. Everyone's always
talking stuff about Buffalo, about how it's not a great
place to live and how the Bills having may playoffs,
but they show up every single Sunday ready to rock. Uh.
New air Field is one of the most unique places
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to play in all the NFL because it's much like
a college atmosphere and we love sitting around watching the
videos on Monday, you know, jumping through tables, lightening things
on fire, all the debauchery that goes down outside the stadium.
So um, they have a lot of They take a
lot of pride and being the most rawity fans in
the NFL, and it shows all Right, you've been in
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a different teams obviously Dolphins and Bills and never able
to topple the Patriots. I wanted your take on the
Tom Brady Gisele thing, where Gizl is like, you know,
he's had We're not supposed to talk about it, but
he's had some concussions, and then Tom Brady's like, you know, look,
she's just she's just a loving white It. It feels
to me like Giselle is trying to trying to trying
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to tell Tom Brady, d did we have you have
championship rings, but you have this family and I want
to spend my life with you. Do you get that
sense that she's trying to lay down the law a
little bit in outing him as having concussions to get
him to hang it up sooner rather than later. You know,
there may be some of that sentiment there. I read
into it as you know, just to slip awards, you know,
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just she maybe said something, you know, she wasn't really
sure about it and kind of let it slip and
didn't realize what a big story that that is. And um,
but yeah, I mean at some point you have to
start evaluating, you know, Tom, and just as to start evaluating, Like, listen,
you want a bunch of Super Bowls. You've had a
ton of success on the field, You've made a ton
of money, you have the TV twelve ventures off the field.
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At what point does the risk outweigh the reward and
at what point do you hang them up? And I
hope it's soon because the guy has been beating me
for thirteen years. So um, I hope, I hope he
hangs them up. And uh, we can finally take down
the Patriots. But Tom's a great player, He's a cornerstone
for the New England Patriots and he'll get to dictate
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what he's done playing. Yeah, no, it's it's it's fascinating
to watch because you're waiting to see slippage and you don't.
And it feels like they've gone all in on getting
free agents to load him up for another run or two.
Richie Incognito Jonius on on The Doug Gottlieb Show. I'm
I'm fascinated, Richie, absolutely fascinated, um by your ability to
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kind of balance that you still like. I think non
athletes don't understand why you have to have people that
have a little kind of nasty side to him, that
have people that have a sarcastic side, that you have
to have these vivid personalities at times in a locker room?
How how can you still be you and yet avoid
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some of the stuff that happened in Miami, Like how
do you how do you not feel like I don't
want to be somebody else. I want to be me
because the best version of me is the best football
player as well, and avoid whatever end up befelling you
when you're with the Dolphins. You know, it's it's incredibly difficult.
It's a it's a day by day challenge because you
do want to be yourself. You want to show that personality,
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and we spend so much time together that that personality
does come out. Um. But you know, learning from the
past and learning from steaks in Miami, just knowing when
to when to not push stuff too far and you
know when to crack a joke and you know when
to have fun. Um. Guys like Eric Wood and Kyle
Williams really made my transition, even Tyrod, because Tyrod and
I both came in together. We were working out in
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Arizona together before we both signed with the Buffalo Bills,
so I got to know Tyrod before he came in,
So both of our Buffalo stories they started at the
same time. But those guys afforded me the ability to
come in and be myself because they knew me personally,
they knew me before. And what I did was I
just I really hung with those guys, you know, I
really you know, I could be myself around them, but
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I wanted other guys in the locker room to be
comfortable with me. Um. You know, before you know you start.
You know, we're sitting a lot of time either before
you get into the jokes and stuff like that. And
the people with the edgy personality. I wanted people who
know me first. And uh, those guys did a tremendous job.
I really owed him a lot. They made my transition
to the locker room really easy. And uh, and now
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it's fun. You know, we're all family and I have
a lot of close personal relationships those guys, and uh,
it's all fun, all right. Yesterday was our Independence Day.
Today is your birthday. What do you doing for your
birthday celebration? We're relaxing a little recover from yesterday and uh,
we're about to head down to the beach, play a
little bacci and volleyball. Uh you you sushi guy? Like,
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what's the kind of like your go to go at meal?
That's it man, we're hitting no boom albut tonight for
the for the birthday celebration. So when you walk into Nobo,
do people know who you are? Like football? Football is
all about getting out from behind the mask, right, all
you guys are trying to Now you appear on TV.
I saw you on speak for yourself. Um, like, but
do people know who you are or do you do
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you like I mean, like the obviously your last aim incognito.
Do you like the fact that sometimes you can go
incognito and just be a dude who looks like the
world's toughest bouncer. Exactly right? You know what? Um you know,
the the incident that went down in two thousand and thirteen,
it was it was a blessing in disguise because for
an offensive lineman that plays in the NFL, you don't
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get a lot of face time. And when that thing
went down, my name and my face over all over
the tabloids, all over TV, and uh so, now you
know the name and the face recognition is is really
an all time high. You know, I do get recognized
pretty much everywhere I go, but I'm the largest guy
in the room with a baby face, and the tattoos
are a dead giveaway. Richie, Happy birthday, man, enjoy NOBU.
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Hopefully somebody else is picking up the tab I encourage you,
you know, listen, I know you're a big boy, but
encourage you to go brown rice. That kind of balances
out not a not as not as car, but not
as car blowed as the white rice. Happy Birthday. Thanks
for joining us. All right, thanks Doug. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug got Leaves Show weekday.
He said, three pm Easter noon, Pacific. Have you noticed
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what the Golden State Warriors are doing. The Golden State
Warriors are replacing Matt Barnes, who did not play in
the NBA. The only thing he's known for in the
playoffs was he said he didn't want to go to
Utah to play the Jazz in the playoffs because there
was nothing to do. And then and look, it's important
for Matt Barnes to find something to do off the
(25:24):
court because he wasn't playing on the court. They replaced
him with Amri Caspy, who can shoot the ball, who
can pass the ball, who's a lot tougher than Matt
Barnes on the floor, even though he doesn't bring the
psycho tough guy image. Right, Um, And they're gonna replace
Ian Clark, who's a prolific three point shooter, with Nick Young,
(25:48):
who's a better offensive player. And by the way, Ian
Clark is had to learn to become a good defensive player,
to which he's still very slight, and he wasn't particularly
skilled off the dribble, and yeah, Nick Young can be
a shot nut, but if they can dial that back,
he just has more talent. Uh. And then JaVale McGee
is a shop blocker they're replacing with Jordan Bell. So
(26:13):
last year they drafted the big guy out of Vanderbilt.
He'll get to play this year. Pat McCall will continue
to develop like and of course I'm bringing back Andrea
Goodal and Sean Livingston, who are the two staples of
their top seven in the rotation. I think everybody thinks
that it's a staggnedant environment because Steph Curry resigned, Kevin
(26:33):
Rent re signed, you still got Clanner contract, you still
got Draymond under contract. Um. And when you have those
four players, you can beat anybody. But when you have
to have a bench in order to win the regular season,
and two that bench has to there can't be the
dip that you have with other benches. And while two
(26:54):
years ago they might have had their best bench, it
feels like this one's creeping up on it because of
the rules that they have established and the players they
could bring in to fill those rules. You still have Iggy,
you still have Sean Livingston, and as they begin to age.
You got the pop of Nick Young, the shooting and
skill and toughness of Amrie Caspy, and the shop blocking
(27:17):
Jordan Bell, the length of Pat McCall. The Warriors kids
have gotten better. Don't let anybody tell you that they're
sitting there rusting on their laurels and opening up pistachios.
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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What did the Fox Say? And now Fox Say? Don't
(27:42):
oh sorry not that song? Doug Gotli Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Colin Coward had something interesting to say on a signing
which is huge money in the NBA for a player
that didn't have huge output in the NBA. Here's his
thoughts on the Auto Porter signing. Otto Porter just signed
a deal for over a hundred million dollars and JJ
Redical make twenty three million dollars a year for the
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Philadelphia seventies sixers, and last year Alan crab signed a
monster contract for Portland. Why did they sign those contracts?
Steph Curry? Steph Curry has changed this league. Guys who
are fifth best starter on a team that may win
one playoff series are signing monster contracts because they can
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suddenly hit three point shots. We've had the three point
shot in the NBA for over two decades. But a
little guy from Davidson proved that you don't have to
have a forty four in vertical, don't have to be
big strong. He broke in the league. He had really
weak ankles. But you change the face of the league.
Steph Curry did that. Yeah, I don't know if I'd
(28:49):
get there. I mean, he's get out of order make threes. Yes,
he's got the highest percentage from three in the NBA
this year, but it's also his versatility offensively's fatility defensively.
He's twenty four years old. If you want to say
Steph Curry, it was that they missed on Steph Curry
and lucked out with the with his second country, his
second contract was four years, forty four million dollars as
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opposed to auto Porter and then, granted it's a completely
different scale now four years later, but auto Porter four years,
one hundred and six million dollars. That's uh, it's like
two and a quarter percent to two hundred uh and
more per year. Then Steph Curry was getting. It's it's
crazy money, um, And some of it's because a team
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like the Nets, teams like the Sixers, they have all
the cap room in the world, and you want to match,
you want to keep your guy, and especially when he's
twenty four. So do I think the three point shot
has become rightfully maybe overvalued? If if that's Collins comment, okay,
but I think that auto Porter doesn't relate to Steph
Curry as much as a three D guy, a versatile
(29:57):
guy that ever changing the NBA. The weird thing about
Auto Border and this is a little bit like Harrison
Barnes last year he was terrible in the playoffs, terrible
a greatly improved shooter in the regular or the year
he really struggled in the in the playoffs shooting the basketball,
which is what he does best. I mean when when
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when when John Wall says, hey, we need to have
a big three or we need to have a bench,
and we need to have a big three in order
to compete, and this guy is signed for the money.
That's the type of he's He's telling you what we
all think. Auto Border is not a big three guy.
He's a fourth or fifth guy. But they paid third
guy money for him. That's the tale of the NBA,
(30:38):
more so than Steph Curry. Steph Curry is why the
Warriors were able to go out and get another superstar
because he was only making forty four million dollars. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Our next
guest is a rookie. He's in the home run Derby.
He's leading the league at home runs. He's the fact
(30:59):
he was the fastest player in Major League history to
hit one home runs in the season. He was also
uh the first thing he did in fifty two games.
He was the first rookie to hit ten home runs
in a ten game span. I mean, he's just smacking
the hell out of baseball. He's Coody Bellinger. He joins
us from the Dodgers on The Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Cody, how are you? I'm good? How
(31:22):
are you? Dude? Man? Um? If you were to describe
these last three months to a friend who you know, like,
I was backpacking in Europe and I didn't have a
cell phone, Like, how's it going? How would you describe it?
I don't know what there is a word? Um, but
it's been uh kind of his dream come true, I guess.
(31:43):
And you know, for me, I just trying to enjoy
every day and keep it going. How do you how
do you get to the point where you're not trying
to hit a home run? Right? That's the that's the
every dad ever trying to teach his son. And obviously
you know there's a process to your swing, but there
does come to a point to which you're like, you
just keep hitting him. How do you get to the
(32:04):
point to which you're not trying to lift the ball,
you're not trying to hit home runs? Yeah, That's when
I get in trouble is when I try and hit
home runs. Um, I'm usually more effective when I think,
you know, hit the ball hard wherever it's fished. And
I mean, yeah, the key to hit home runs is
not trying. And if you try, you're you're you're gonna
missles than you want. And I fall into the habitat sometimes,
(32:26):
but I think that's that's everyone. Um, your brother, your
brother Cole, Right, he's a he's he can pitch, is
he is he throwing BPD you, is he throwing to
you in the home run derby? Who's gonna throw to you?
My dad? My dad's gonna throw. Okay, So he's getting
time off from being a volunteer firefight and I saw
that you you told people in Glendale, Uh in there,
(32:47):
I mean, excuse me in Arizona to not burn anything down,
Like can you can you guarantee that happens that that
that that he's not called a duty. What if he
gets called a duty, He's just the normal shift. They
covered his shift. And yeah, I'll probably give him the
sign ball whoever if they want one. If not, they
just you know, they helped him out a lot and
we appreciate it. And Cody Belling, you're joining us on
(33:10):
the Doug Gottlip Show. What's changed with this team? You
guys have been playing so much better ball of late. Um,
I mean, you know, Kershaw is Kershaw and you have
some other weapons that they've had previously. But obviously with
the wins and losses, something changed. What was it? I
don't know if we can point one thing, but I
mean you said that our starting pitching has been no
(33:30):
phenomenal and our offense has been clicking left of your righty. Um.
And we have a good thing going. We're having fun
with it. Um. And yeah, we're just trying to trying
to enjoy the right as long as a camp. Okay,
So Josh Turner is part of this final vote. Obviously,
that's one of the reasons you're joining us. You look
at the batting average, like three, Justin Turmo said, Josh
(33:50):
Turns the country singer. My bad, dude, Justin Turner, he's
hitting he's hitting three eight three. Um. I know there's
there have been some who have said, hey, your fans
have to step up, give me the pitch. You see
him every day. Why should just In turn to be
an All Star? He's a he's the best you know,
third base, and I've seen defensively, Uh, he makes unbelievable plays.
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And I think that goes unnoticed. And I mean you
said he's in three five with a week less than
the MLB's first ass that's uh really hard to do. Um.
And I think he's the best third base when that's
not the All Star Game, And so I think he
deserves to go. You look, you play all over, you
play left, but you also can play Uh. Some first base.
I wanted to ask you about tweeners. I was talking
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to Matt Holiday's played some first base this year. He's
in left field, that's learned the place. Um, okay, so
ball's coming for tweeners or people don't know, like how
you know, if it hits the grass, it's gonna pop
up right, But and you can't scoop it. It's like
in between the grass and popping up and hitting the dirt.
So it so it. You know, how how do you
judge and how do you approach a tweener in your
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first base? Yeah? You said those are the first one. Um.
You know, depending on who's throwing and how hard to throw,
you can either you know, scoop back his death and
catch up behind the base, or you can you know,
try and semi get lucky and you know, try and
picket and guess where we're it's gonna bounce. It's a
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it's an absolute artful skill. The other thing is I've
always wondered you're out there in left field and Clayton
Kershaw is on the mound. Now part of you probably like, look,
I gotta make a play because curse is you know
kind of depending on us. Um, and you know we
need to we need, you know, for for his uh,
we needed to stand up defensively for him. But do
you ever catch yourself just watching him, you know, just
(35:37):
like I'm sitting here watching the greatest left handed pitcher,
maybe since or maybe better than Sandy Kofax we've had
in baseball. I'm just wondering, as a guy who grew
up around the game, dad a former pro, if you
catch yourself just watching a guy work and you lose
track of the actual game, I think, oh, yeah, honestly
when you're in between the lines. No, not really. But
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I actually was on the bench um one game when
he was starting, I believe, and that's when I kind
of like he had another whatever kind of strike up game,
whatever it was for him. And that's when I was like,
this is this is crazy. It happens a lot. And
uh that's kind of when I kind of got to
experience us in a moment. All Right, you got twenty
four home runs already, But I don't want like it's
(36:20):
gotta be weird for you, Like do you want to
what are you as a hitter? Like, what is in
five years when you've been in the pros for five years.
What should we expect? Is this? What is this what
we should expect? Or should we expect? You know, more
more on the on base and more higher in terms
of average, Like who are you really as a hitter?
I wish I knew. I think I'm still you know,
(36:42):
learning the kind of hitter I am. Um, I don't
know if I'll be able to have a stretch like
I did again. You know, maybe that will, but that
was you know, it's pretty crazy, and the game of
baseball was really hard. So I'm just gonna you know,
for me, I picked my in mind drive approach as
much as I can, and uh, you know, hopefully some
balls it out, but hopefully I can have some more
double All right, Listen, when you get to that home
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run derby, don't try and keep up with Aaron Judge
and the monster shots. It's a marathon, not a sprint, right,
So even if they skim the right, even if they
skim the top of the rail, it doesn't matter that
they count. He can hit a five hundred foot shot.
It's about volume of home runs, It's about conditioning. It's
a marathon, not a sprint. And make sure now now
your dad's not gonna buzz the tower on you is
(37:24):
He's not gonna go high and tight, is he? That's
kind of where I wanted. So yeah, thank you? All right,
you can you gotta vote for Justin Turner to be
that for that final vote. Remember its vote j T,
Vote j T. If you want to see another Dodger
in the All Star Game, Cody, keep it up, enjoy
(37:47):
that free tip to Miami, and hopefully your dad throws
them exactly what you want them and you put them
out into right field. Right yeah? How think yes? Be
sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott Leaps
Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon, Pa Ciffic,
we're such a participation trophy comp country that we have
to give an All Star to every team. Why, explained
(38:09):
to me, all Star man. It's not hard find the
best players in baseball put them on the field. Part
of what's the the allure that's lost the All Star
Game is like, you guys know when they moved the
Astros to the American League that they had fifteen American
fifteen Nationals. You guys, everybody realizes that what it does
(38:30):
in baseball, right, You're like, what what do you mean?
Was it doing baseball. Well, if there's fifteen in one
league and fifteen and the other and everybody's playing in
a series, that means there's always inter league games. I
think it's awful. I think it's terrible. Now they tried
to make it equitable, making hey, look we've got five
divisions of three and we got three division winners, and
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then we got two wild cards, and the wild cards
played to play in game. Like all of that makes sense.
The problem with it is that inter league used. When
inter league first came in, it was really cool, but
it was a specific like alright, Memorial Day weekend, we'll
have interor league play four the July, well of interal
league play like there was said inter league. Now there's
an inter league series every every series. It has to
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be statistically um and I think it takes away from it.
But the other thing is that because now you see
these guys coming into your park you didn't have back
in the eighties and the early nineties. You wouldn't see well.
Back back in the eighties, especially in early nights before
for interal league and even in italygue you didn't see
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these guys coming in your park every year, and you
couldn't see him on TV. Now, Like if you get
the Major League Baseball pack, if you're really a baseball fan,
you can see these guys play any night of the week.
Everybody has their own RS and their own regional sports
network to which you can watch the Fox Sports, you know, Southwest,
Fox Sports, Northeast, whatever, and watch your team play, or
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watch a team player watch the best play. You wanta
watch Bryce Harper, you can watch Bryce Harper every day
of the week. You want to watch Pat Nich, you
can watch Jack every day of the week. I don't
think anyone wants to. There's nobody wants to watch. Pattie's
family is like, oh god, now we have to watch
the game because he might get into the seventh inning.
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Like like Baseball's All Star Game doesn't work because you're
never gonna see Clayton Kershaw goes seven innings. You're never
gonna really see the best of the best. They start,
you know, taking guys out after the third inning. You know,
Derek Jeter was on his on his plane, his private
plane to his vacation while the game's still going on.
Like these things just it's never what it could be.
Basketball should have the best All Star Game, but they
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don't play any defense they could because it's not gonna
hurt them, whereas baseball you're so concerned about players arms
that you're not gonna do that. But this idea that
we have to have an All Star from every team
is the most participation sport like deal in professional sports history,
and there's there's no statistical proof that shows any one
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person would ever watch the game simply because their knees
shack is somehow, maybe possibly could to get put in
in the waning innings of an All Star game you
couldn't possibly care less about
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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