August 14, 2017 • 40 mins
Doug talks about Seahawks DE Michael Bennett protesting the National Anthem during a preseason game and why that's bad news for Colin Kaepernick. Doug tells you why NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell's job is safe despite what has happened recently with Cowboys Owner Jerry Jones and Patriots Owner Robert Kraft. He talks to Stanford head coach David Shaw about the difficulties student-athletes have balancing school and athletics.
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This is the best of the Doug gottlie Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America, Doug gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio, Live and direct from the city of
Angels where you have not one but two NFL teams.
I went and saw one in person yesterday afternoon. Not
one but two potential playoff teams in Major League Baseball
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and uh, not one but two potential top five draft
picks at quarterback in the NFL playing in college this year.
We got a lot to offer here here here in
Los Angeles. Um. But one of the things that happened
yesterday in Los Angeles, I was actually attending the Chargers
Seahawks game. Gotta point out how impressed I am with
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the twelfth man showing up. Also will tell you part
of the twelfth man showing up is not just because
I do think that their uniforms are cool and the
football team has been one to which if you're a fan,
you're all in on. They have distinct, kind of vivid
personalities on that team. But let's be honest, they've been
among the most successful, the most dominant team in the
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Western United States the past half decade or so. And
that's where all you Seahawks fans with, Hey, this is
not a new jersey. Yeah, it's not like you were
Seahawks fans going back ten fifteen years ago. I didn't
see a lot of Matt hassleback jerseys in the crowd. Still,
I'm at the game, watching the Chargers play their first game,
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not sold out. I understand in Carson, which just the
whole thing is just weird and kind of surreal. There
was no huge desire for the NFL to come to
l A to begin with, and then you put together
two teams in l A in two separate years, and honestly,
neither of the team that people kind of wanted, right.
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I mean, if the Raiders came to town tomorrow and
played in the in the middle of the desert, or
played somewhere off the beaten path, they would draw far, far,
and wide more attention than the Rams and the Chargers combined.
That said, I'm at the game, and I didn't realize
that Michael Bennett was protesting. Michael Bennett, star defensive end
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for the Seattle Seahawks. I wasn't watching the Raiders preseason game,
but apparently Marshawn Lynch also did not stand up for
the Nashal anthem, to which I learned that Marsha Marshawn
Lynch didn't stand up for the Nashal anthem during most
of the last eleven years of his career. And so
when you couple that coming off of what was just
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an awful weekend in Charlottesville, awful, awful. Um, I understand
how anyone can make a I do in this case
if I don't know what each his political statement was,
or if there wasn't a statement, just they're in discussed
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with the aggress or lack thereof, or in many ways
it felt like regression in our country over the weekend.
I don't know why they chose to set him in
the h have said kind of why but whatever, Um okay,
But I think in totality it takes away from Colin
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Kaepernick's argument, or the argument made by some as to
why Colin Kaepernick stout in the NFL. It's the Doug
Otlip Show Fox Sports Radio really quickly because because others
have been unable to do so. Yes, I am anti
Nazi and anti Confederate flag. Having just returned from Israel
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about three weeks ago, three weeks ago, I can tell
you what the Nazis did to my relate people of
my religion, what they did to even some of their
own countrymen, what they did to Gypsies, what they did
to Gaze, what they did to Muslims. If you actually
crack a history book, it's the most disgraceful era in
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the history in the in the modern history of war. Um.
And anyone who is foolish enough to flat to flash
that flag and think that it's not going to be
a great met with great energy, great resistance obviously thinks
that we're supposed to pretend we don't remember history and
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Confederate flag guy, Sorry, you're the same thing, Like, hey,
take the l dude, you lost a long time ago.
We've moved on, and you can tell me it's about
your hair, some Southern heritage thing. That's there's that's fine.
You can try and make the same argument about the
swastata being about some sort of German heritage, all right,
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when it when it is a sign of oppression and frankly,
listally in the swastika. And I don't I don't want
to get in this discussion, but I don't know. You're
sitting at home, You're like, this is this is our
country summer man, right, we're getting ready for football. I
just want to talk about football, damn it. I want
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to talk The Angels are my baseball team. I have
no idea how they are right now tied to go
to the wild Cards, like I have no idea zero.
I have zero clue, Like Mike Trout and a bunch
of other stuff, there's no possible logical reason that they
and they're playing great. I'd love to talk about the Dodgers.
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Do they won this weekend? Have you seen what they've done?
But instead, here we are kind of reacting to um
a disgraceful protest in Charlottesville and what happened after that,
And we're reacting to two football players who have had
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very good careers. And I guess I'm supposed to say, well,
these guys, let's listen. First. Here's Michael Bennett after the
game yesterday when asked why he didn't stand for Nashvial anthem.
But everything has been going on in the last couple
of months, and especially after the last couple of days,
sitting everything in Virginia, and someone's going on out there
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earlier today in Seattle. UM, I just wanted to be
able to use my platform and to be able to
continues who speak on in justice. I love the military.
I love my father was in the military. I love
I love hot dogs like any other America. I love
football like any other American. But I don't love segregation.
I don't love right so I don't love um oppression.
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I don't know love. I love Jinder Slant, and I
just I just want to see people who have the
equality to that they that they deserved. Okay, I mean, like, look,
we have to make sure we can textualize what happened
with Colin Kaepernick when he protested as opposed to Michael
Bennett was like, look, I'm'm paying attention to all the
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stuff going on, and I just want to use my platform,
which I've actually I always support. I've never been a
stick to whatever guy, because if if it was, I
would only be allowed to talk about basketball because I
was a basketball guy. Right, Like, don't get me wrong,
you still have your wheelhouse and things that you're an
expert in. And Michael Bennett knows and forgotten more about
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playing defensive line in football than I'll ever know. But
I also think that if you can be a thoughtful
human being and bring your own perspective to a discussion.
You know, why can't sports guy talk about non sports? Right?
So wait, we leave politics to just the politicians. Why
politicians having them shown themselves to be worthy of of
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of being alone in that discussion to begin with. Right,
So we should allow any sort of other person on
the street is allowed to speak on something on a
topic that they might not be educated on, as opposed
to an athlete. Now, look, the problem with Kaepernick was
when he protested, what he said after he protested, and
why he was protesting, and I know was a hot
button issue. I remember all the things that happened in
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the summer before last year when he took a knee
at the national anthem, And just just so you know,
when you don't stand up for the national anthem, like Mike,
my son and I were there and national anthem, take
off your hat, it's respectful. Put it over your heart,
you know, if you know the words, sing it. If
you don't pay attention, look at the flag. That's how
I teach my son. I do. I'm having traveled abroad
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even this summer, I can tell you there's flaws in
our country, not close. Still, the greatest crunch you ever.
Nothing like to descend or nothing like walking off that
plane and seeing old glory. But we're not perfect. And
if your way to say we're not perfect is hey,
I'm not going to stand from the national anthem. I
disagree with it, but I'd like to hear what you
have to say. Two things. One, Kaepernick, when he took
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a knee, said that cops were murderers and they're walking
the street, and that language still rings, still resonates in
many police officers ears, resonates in my ears, and I remember,
I know what he's talking about. Okay he did, Hey,
he had the pig sucks right. It was different. He
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offered no discussion. He wanted no discussion about either of
the either the presidential candidates. Instead, I wanted to try
and stay kind of a political even though he was
in the middle of a political debate. And even now
as he has done a lot of good works on
the back of his protest, he hasn't used that platform
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to continue to push his cost. Instead, people don't know
like he's he said, if he signs with the team,
he's not going to kneel for the national anthem, Like why,
why are things so much better now, Why have things
changed so much? Tell us, lead us. If you're going
to start a movement, well then you have to see
it all the way through. But more than anything, the
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reason that Bennett and that Marshawn Lynch I think, whether
it's reality or perception, perception oftentimes becomes a reality. Why
their protests hurt Kaepernick is they're not gonna lose their
job over it. And look, Marshawn is a pain the ass.
Ask anybody there's a reason he was Buffalo and then
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he's in Seattle, and Seattle he was just quirky enough
to work at that particular time. Every he dive into
the end zone and grab his nuts, which is like
it's funny, but it's because it's Marshawn right, Like he
can got to get away because like it's Marshawn and
whether or not he sticks and it's the starting running
back for the Raiders as they're pushing for doesn't have
anything to do with the protests, and it is the Raiders.
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They're able to do things because but it's can he
play if he still has juice in the tank, he'll
be on the Raiders. He'll be getting the football on
the one yard line to win playoff games or win
a super Bowl. Same thing with Michael Bennett can really play.
And while I do think that there's a portion of
hesitation in signing Kaepernick because of the protest and the
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viscerer reaction to his language in discussing the protest us
in the pig socks and things like in the castor
T shirt all that stuff, there's also major questions about
whether or not he can play, how much he wants to,
how much he wants to make when playing, what type
of opportunity he needs in order to sign that contract.
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And while Bennett and Marshawn may on some levels be
sewing solidarity towards Kaepernick, they're really hurting the argument that
Kaepernick's only not in the NFL because of the protest.
Malcolm Jason still in the NFL. And be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays
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at three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Goodell had has had,
in my estimation, five major influential owners as cornerstones of
his power base. Pittsburghs Dan Rooney, Carolina's Jerry Richardson, Jerry
Jones of Dallas, Robert Craft of New England, and the Giants.
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John Mara Rooney died this year. Richard Sin eighty one
is declining influence. Jones, as Adam Schefter reports, is furious
with the Commissioner for the Elliott suspension, as I believe
he thinks the commissioner is too suspension happy. Craft is
still wounded over the Brady suspension and verdict. Mara Steel
in Goodell's corner rock solid. I believe that's quite a
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change from his power base. What is it? So the
idea is like will Roger Will Roger Goodell lose his
job over the Jerry Jones thing? Like Jerry Jones is
mad because they may have they they suspended Zekei Elliott
on Friday out as I think most of you know,
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I hosted Colin Cowherd show The Herd on Friday. Like
my my first thing is when I hear domestic violence,
I would just like us all to take a breath
and realize, Like, honestly, I kind of think the Ray
Rice video is a good one too, Like that's what
it looks like. It's not always that violent. Sometimes it's
even it gets escally and gets even worse. But that's
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what it looks like. It's disgraceful for a man to
hit a woman. UM. I also think that, Look, there's
the offer up the possibility that much like the Tom
Brady case, the NFL overstepped in, the NFL did not
have the evidence that they believed that they have. I
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don't think tom Brady did anything wrong. I don't do.
I think they inflated or reinflated the footballs probably. I
also think they did so because Tom Brady liked the
football is a certain way. Do I think he ordered
the code read? I don't. Um, there's text messages out
there between this woman, uh, the the victim, alleged victim,
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and her friends. UM and Ezekiel's dad has come out
and said that there is evidence, and of course his
lawyers have come out come out. Whatever. Look, I am
not capable personally of hitting a woman. I'm I'm personally
not capable of doing it. I don't have that capability
within me. And I would also like to think, like
I'd like to believe, goodness of heart, that somebody would
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not say they were hit by somebody else, especially a
woman saying hit by a man and make it up.
I would like to believe that all rape victims are
in fact grape victims. But sometimes people lie. It's not
a high percentage of times, and those people that lie
do far more damage to other women than they ever
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thought in the moment to which they might have good
reason to. It might be a super toxic relationship and
it's their cry for help, and there may have been
mental abuse, whatever. But my first thing when there's domestic
violence case, I just I don't think we get we
should immediately go my fantasy football team is screwed, or
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throw up the Cowboys schedule, Like, man, what are they
gonna do this year? Was the record gonna be right? Like,
I just that's the wrong tact, wrong tactic. Wrong. It
doesn't mean you're not going to have that discussion, doesn't
mean that your mind can't go there. It eventually will.
It's just like I don't think the first time you
hear it, you should think she's lying, not healthy. But
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as the evidence starts to come out, if you read
the NFL side, fairly pretty damaging. If you start to
hear some of his side, you start to wonder, wait
a second, is this legitimate? I think the conversation that
you have between Roger Goodell and UM and Jerry Jones
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is an honest one, which is very simple. What do
you want me to do? You know, we suspended right
Rights for two games, which is the longest suspension the
history of the league for domestic violence. And people saw
the video and wanted me fired, wanted to leave burned
to the ground. I spent a guy two games or
something that was handled by the by the criminal courts
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with a deferred pre with a pre trial diversion, visionary
hearing or something right like, the criminal justice system views
this in a completely different way than how we view
it in our in our own kind of Twitter justice. Right,
I suspended him, but I guess I didn't suspend him
long enough. Now we blackballed him, but then we had
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to come up with a new policy and it's six
games and oh yeah, by the way, like look, this
is what happens. For example, we just had Matt Rulan
right now. Matt Rule has never been accused of any
ethical misconduct ever. Ever, he wouldn't have gotten that job
had they not done their due diligence and found any
sort of Remember, he had two assistant coaches that they
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had to early on had to jettison. The point is
that when you come in, you follow the mess that
was left behind at Baylor. The most powerful people on campus,
our compliance and basically your HR people in this case
Title nine on a campus because of what the previous
regime is, it was alleged to have done right. Well,
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that's what's happening in the NFL. There was such a
visceral reaction towards the great how the handling and Greg Hardy,
the handling of what's the kicker from the giants Josh
Brown and and by the way, I I think I'm
maybe alone. I think Josh Brown was done wrong. I
do because we don't know what he meant in his journal,
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which was supposed to remain private. But nonetheless, we chose
to punish somebody for something that we don't actually know
what actually happened. Oh, we wanted justice, and so now
he's out of the league. But um, what ends up
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happening is if you Jerry Jones sits down. Roger Goodell
and Jerry Jones can be mad as you want, like, hey, Jerry,
I appointed somebody else. This is not I took it
away from my desk and gave the power to a
former prosecutor. She conducted the investigation. If I get her
investigation and she thinks it's more probable than not that
something happened, that Ezekiel did something to this girl, and
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I bury that, I get fired. Okay, I am the
laughing stock of professionals, Like I'm gone. You can't do that, Jerry.
Don't you remember what happened when we we try to
investigate ray Rice and we suspended ray Rice, and then
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the video came out and we didn't do enough to
get the video. Now, we might have done too much,
We might have overstepped our purview. But okay, that's what
we risk. If you don't think bygones, become bygones. The
New England Patriots had their first preseason game at home
last week. Do you know who was there? Roger Goodell?
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You know who'll be there when they kick off the season,
Roger Goodell. At the end of the day, he's making
them a lot of money, and he's doing his best
to try and keep all thirty two owners happy. And
even if five were more powerful than others, I think
he is out in the You're mad at me? Is
time heals all wounds. I'm still fill in your pockets,
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and thirty one other owners agreed with my move to
suspend your player. Be sure to catch live editions of
the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m.
Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. Let's catch up with David Shaw, head
coach at Stanford Cardinal. Uh, they get read to head down?
I think next Saturday to Sydney to take on the
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Owl's coach joins this year on the Doug Gottlic Show.
Next Saturday, you guys head down? Correct? Yeah, a few
days from now? Um? Okay, So, so how has this um?
Let's let's let's let me let me kind of rise
my level of intelligence here? What's your level of preparedness
for the season this year as opposed to previous years,
no two days and earlier game than in years in
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the past. Well, I think the big thing for us
is revamping our entire training camp schedule to a commody
for having no two day practices, and a lot of
lustments have been said about two day practices. I think
there's a way to do them intelligently to keep your
team healthy and safe, but at the same time train
them for what is a long and grueling football season. Um,
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but no two days this year, so we had to
be very smart about how we did it, and I
think our guys did really, really well. We still scrimmaged,
we still did a lot of things that were physical,
and we gave him a day off and we took
care of him as well. So I think we're pretty
we're pretty well prepared to start getting into game plans
a lot of a lot of a lot more full
speed reps, is what I read that you guys, you
guys used that is that accurate? Well, we we were
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smart about it and that we we tried to scrimmage
before the day off so that we could recover the
day off, and then the first day after the day off,
we you know, don't put the full full gear on
and we kind of grease greased him back up before
we we get back to kind of being physical again.
So it's really about being smartest. It's not just about
you know, banging these guys together, but at the same time,
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making sure that we get enough physical we have enough
meeting time, we have enough walk throughs to make sure
guys know what they're what they're supposed to do. Um, okay,
so David shall join us in the Doug Gotlicia. What
about Keller Chris last time we saw him, he heard
his knee Sun Bowl. Uh, there was some talk in
the off season that they didn't know, you guys didn't
know whether or not he be ready. He's a go
and he he's he looks great, he feels great. We
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anticipated maybe giving him a day off or two during
the course of training camp. Um, he said no swelling,
he said no setbacks. Um, he looks on and I
can't wait to watch him game one. That's that's really amazing. Now,
of course you have to replace Christian McCaffrey, who didn't
play in that Sun Bowl, and he showed kind of
the supporting cast. What's that gonna like? What what's the
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what's the kind of game planning that's gonna massively change
because you guys were able to smartly use him in
so many different facets. What's that can be like for
you're getting ready for the game against Rice. Well, the
biggest thing is that it's going to take about four
different guys to do what Christian did by himself. Um.
Bryce Love is an outstanding running back. You know, Christians
two games last year and Bryce rush for a hundred
yards and both of those games. Um, he's an explosive, quick,
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agile guy that actually runs physical between the tackles as well.
But at the same time, I think you'll see the
ball get spread around a little bit more. Um, I
think you'll see our receivers make more plays in j
j R. Sega, Whiteside and Trenton Irwin. Our tight ends
will be more involved, led by our senior captain, their
Dalton Schultz. Um. So I think we've got a good
group of guys. I think we can absorb all of
those uh touches that Christiancaffrey is leaving for the rest
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of those guys. Now, last year, remember you beat Kansas State,
then you guys had a week off and then you
beat USC to ten. There's some similarities here. Obviously. Now
you're playing in Australia and then you have the week
off coming back. There is some similarities in having that
week off. Do you I mean, I mean, I guess
you have to like it, but do you like that?
And get ready for your first Pack twelve game against
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the team favored the favorite to win their side of
the pack twelve in USC. Uh. Yeah, I think I'm
excited about our players are excited about it. I think
the Sydney trip is going to be phenomenal. We're gonna
teach it and treat it just like a bowl game.
You know. The first couple of days there, we're gonna
kind of we're gonna go to the zoo, We're gonna
go to the beach, we're gonna do some cultural exchange
things with the people Australia, and um, they're excited to
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host us and have us and I can't wait. Um.
After about the third day, we'll really kind of batten
down the hatches and get ready to play football game
and UM treat his game. We're gonna try to go
out there and win. UM. And then the good thing
is coming back with that bye week. Uh. You know,
the first three days we're gonna let our let our
guys to be completely off, helped him try to get
back on the proper sleep side sleep cycle of a
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West Coast time zone. UM. And then we'll start our
our USC preparation and have about a week and a
half to be ready for a really good church and team.
You know what's interesting is you're talking about it a
smart way to do two days, and there is there's
a smart way to do the overseas trip and get
guys on the right sleep Cyclely, it's it's fascinating to me.
That's something that I think we do a bad job
in the media of talking enough about is that coaches
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have to find like, you can't practice hard every day,
even the twenty hour rule in season, you can't go
every day full bore because your players have to have
their legs and perform at their optimum level. How much
of your practice timing, practice time planning is set around
not just what you want to accomplish, but having the
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guys play at optimal health once you get around to
playing in the game. It's everything, It mean, it's everything.
It's making sure that we're not overloading them mentally, overloading
them physically, and make sure we're getting enough work but
not too much work and not too little work. So
managing it so and I'm so glad you bring that
up because with all of the concustom research and concussion
studies and all things going on there, um, you know,
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the coaches sometimes get thrown under the bus, as as
guys that are chro magnum guys that just want to
go out there and smash these guys heads together. And
that's not even close because if you really think about it, Um,
we love these guys and care about these guys more
than anybody else. These are our guys. These are people
that we spend all these time with. We want them
to be healthy, want them to be safe, want them
to perform at an optimal level. So there are many
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times we'll go through and say, hey, you know, today's
schedule for a two hour practice. You know what, let's
take thirty minutes out. Our guys legs are tired. You know. Hey,
you know tomorrow is supposed to be a pad to day.
Let's take the paths off tomorrow. We we hit enough
this past weekend. So coaches all over the country make
those decisions based on the health and welfare of their players. Well,
there's there's two parts to it. Um. Let me ask
you about the hitting, because I want to get back
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back to the conditioning and the legs in a second.
You're the most physical team in the Pacts, well, one
of the most physical teams in the country. So I
guess just the football angle of it is, how do
you maintain kind of the cultural of culture of physicality,
the style that you play both offensively and different defensively
with less hitting in practice. How's that done? So? And
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it's probably less hitting that most people would think. So
for us, we rarely ever practice for two more than
two and a half hours. I mean that's like the maximum,
usually about two or fifteen, two or twenty minutes. The
first forty five minutes of our practice is non contact.
We are doing a special team's drills, will go through
individual drills, will go through group drills where the offense
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work separately from the defense, and it's teaching. It's technique
work before we ever do anything competitive. So the the
big chunk of a big chunk of our practice every
single day is non physical, it's mental, it's it's technique work.
And then we'll have typically two team periods about twelve
to fifteen plays each um where it's guys going on
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going against guys physical when we get after it, now
we're gonna be physical, we're gonna we're gonna get after
it as well as anybody in college football. And then
we'll go onto another period where it's not as physical,
so we concentrate the physicality UM in practice into certain periods,
but it can't be the entire practice. We're allowed to
practic us for four hours and for me that's just
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too much. That we practice the shorter and it'll be
very intense when it's time to be intense, and it'll
be a teaching temper when it's time to teach. It's fascinating.
So I coached the team David Shaw, our guest seventh
year head coach at the Stanford as they get ready
to take on Rice in Sydney, Australia a week from Saturday. UM.
I coached the team in Israel's like the Jewish Olympics. Anyway,
we had we had two days and as a as
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a guy who had never been a head coach, but
it had played forever, Like I know, how important is
like kind of the balance of being sharp and get
enough shots up UM and knowing what you're doing and
practicing with the level of intensity. On the other hand,
you want to have want to have your legs, you know,
you want to feel really really good. And I found
that that trying kind of managing that was such an
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important part of the job so that players and you know,
this for a big Saturday. Guys are at their that
magic level to which you don't have to say or
do anything. Their bodies are right, their minds are right,
and they're sharp, and they're not overburdened with what you did.
On the other hand, you didn't under teach him under coaches,
they are not prepared. I bring all that up because
I was really bothered by the Josh Rosen thing, because
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it it makes it seem like all guys do is
spend time around the facility. All they do is watch
film and practice and lift weights. And he made it.
He made the statement of the school and football like
you can't really do them both at a high level.
You're at the highest level academically, your school plays at
the highest level in football and in the Pact, not
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just in the Pact twell, but nationally. When you heard
those remarks, what did you think? Well? I I gave
an interview shortly after. I usually don't give interviews after
someone else that I didn't know the university says anything,
But I thought it was important to frame the conversation
the in the way that is beneficial to everyone. UM.
In my opinion, UM, young young men and young women
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that play sports in college have difficult schedules. Um, And
to think that a college football uh edule is so
much more difficult than a women's soccer schedule or other
others they're there. There are young many young women that
are working while they're going to college, and they have
to work to afford to go to college. What you
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learn at university is time management. You learn how to
make critical decisions. Hey, I don't have time for this
and I have time for this. Um. So that's that's
something that you you learned during the course of your college.
And and uh, I think it's very capable, It's very
possible because so many people. I have a lot of
friends I went to u c l A, know people
that have worked their coach there, and I know people
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that teach school there. And it's very doable there. Um.
Is it easy? Absolutely not. But if you want to
be great in your sport and you want to be
a great student, and then now it's not going to
be easy and other people are going to have time
to do things that you don't have to do. But
you've made the choice, um, to be to try to
be elite at a at a university. So um, the difficulties, Hey,
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you accept those um and accept the challenges, and your
accomplishments when you do accept something difficult, are even more fulfilling.
So I would hate for the argument to be, hey,
you know what we need to um just have guys
go to go to football and not go to school. Well,
then what message are we sending because so many of
these guys that play college sports, young men and women,
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they're not going to do it professionally. They need their education.
They need that college degree to move on and be
successful in life. David Jah joining us on the Doug
Otlib Show of his six seasons, five of which have
ended in double digit wins. You guys, when your last
six games of last season with a great finishing kick
and you finish up this year your last three are
at home on the farm. We mentioned you start off, um,
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you start off on the road or in Sydney against Rice. Uh.
Kind of an interesting your You know your ranked fifteen,
kind of right there in the middle of the top
twenty five. What's your what's what's your level of expectation?
When you've had some great teams, You've been around great
teams previously becoming head coach, you get a sense kind
of early on. Do you have that what it takes
if everybody stays healthy to be special. What's your sense
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of this club as of this day. I think we
have a few things going for us. UM. You know,
a quarterback coming off an injury, but a quarterback that
had experience and and as as undefeated as a starter
and do some really good things at the end of
the year. UM. But you look at us as a whole,
you know, I think we've got really good experience. We're
more experienced on the offensive line. We're experienced on the defense,
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the front seven and the secondary. UM. I think we've
got some talented young guys that are coming and coming
into their own UM. Like any coach, we want to
we need to stay healthy, and we need to find
the best way to utilize the the talents and abilities
of our of our team. UM. But I think we
have a chance. I think we have a chance to
be very good. We have a very competitive schedule, as
you alluded to. UM. UM starting out early on with
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going to Sydney, but then coming back with USC San
Diego State in the u c l A UM and
get into the bulk of our of our conference, and
then you throw in Washington at the end of the year,
and and and Cal and Notre Dame. UM, it's a
it's a tough schedule, and I think if we can
stay healthy and and continue to improve, because we can't
ever get to the point where I think we're okay,
you know, let's go play everybody. You know, we got it.
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We're gonna have to improve throughout the season, UM, in
order to have a chance to hopefully find a way
to that PACTOL Championship game. And that's what you did
last year. You improved throughout the season last year. We'll coach, listen,
We'll let you get back after it. We really appreciate
the discussion. Safe travels to and from Sydney, and don't
be afraid to bring back a dub so we can
see that matchup against USC at the College SEUM. Thanks
for being our guest on Fox Sports Radio. No problem,
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gonna talk to you. Fox Sports Radio has the best
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I Heart Radio app. I was one of the fifty
four at the stub Hub Center in Carson, California, yesterday
for the Chargers Maiden voyage into preseason football against the
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Seattle Seahawks, and I will point out continue to point
out the place was probably one third at least one
third Seahawks fans. Twelfth Man travels really really well. It
just does. Now. You might say to yourself, Ella's Bed's
worst town, right, That's what That's what people always say,
Like Ellttle bed Moore Town Dodgers, who four million people
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last year would draw over four million people this year.
Angels will go over three million this year. Um and
last year for preseason football, the Rams preseason opener was
the largest preseason football game in the United States history.
Official tenants was eighty nine thousand, one D forty nine
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forty that's for the Rams. Of course, they did play
the Dallas Cowboys, who are um arguably the most popular
team in America, and Cowboys have always trained in southern California.
Cowboys have some swag as opposed to as much as
the twelve man does travel well, let's not act like
Seahawks fans are Steelers fans were probably number two Cowboys
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fans one in terms of traveling fans or fans that
put the jerseys on. Yeah, Patriot fans show up, but
it's like Red Sox fan when they won the World Series.
You're not really a Patriot fan. You people like teams
that win. That's what I found. So look the Chargers,
and they did get booed at home. But part of
the reason they got booed Kellen Clemons came in. He's
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their backup quarterback. Through an eighty nine yard touchdown pass
to Kelvin Benjamin. He should have just dropped the mic
and be like, I'm good, handed over to Cardale Jones.
Instead he kept playing and it just got bad if
you guys watching, and they had two interceptions both his
fault and a fumble. Also his fault on a missed
fake handoff where he just dropped the football. Kellen Clemmons
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bringing the Jets to the Chargers was not a good thing.
It wasn't uh, And it should be pointing out that
it's I mean, like Carson's a random location. It just
is inside the stadium. It's great they actually have in
the corners of the stadium they have little kind of
grassy area is where people can eat food. So they
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allow food trucks to come in set up shop. So
they have plenty of vending. Like it's a really cool
little stuff is twenties seven thousand seats. It should be thirty,
but some of the seats aren't uncovered yet. Because it's California,
there's some sort of they have to do some sort
of seismic ecological review of seriously, and Carson is Carson
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is the town if you look on a map, literally
just south of Compton. It's in between Orange County and
Los Angeles. It's on the campus of cow State University
of Domingus Hills. You're like, what is that? Where is that?
My point? Exactly, it's right next to industrial areas, right
next to Compton. There's strip malls across the street. There's
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no There is set up parking on the campus, but
not a ton of it. And it's just not a
place whould you go? Like, oh, an NFL team plays there?
And remember Burr they are playing in this home for
two years before they moved to the palatial new place
where they're going to share with the Rams. But what
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this is just an arranged marriage, just what yesterday felt
like what it has to be like? Sorry, like arranged marriage?
First night you go home, like what do you do? Like, yeah,
I know we're married and our parents said, we're supposed
to be married, but do we have to sleep in
the same bed? Like, what do we have to do?
We have to consummate this marriage was so strange, and
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the Chargers had a vibrant fan base in San Diego.
But like, at some point I actually understand the Charger's
point of view, which is like, hey, we offered the
possibility of a stadium that could get you a Super Bowl,
get you in the College Football playoff, could get you
a Final Four. It was supposed to be a dome stadium.
The l A one will be domed. Right. That's you're like,
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why is it dome when the weather is good? So
you can get basketball in there, so you can have
presidential conventions in there, so you can have anything possible
in there. At San Diego built it, it all would
have at San Diego. It's a great vacation destination. You
would have had two or three bowl games in addition
to the bowl games that they have, and they might
actually lose, And at some point in negotiations you have
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to go like, hey, look, if you don't hit my number,
I'm walking out the door. Right. That's you go in
to buy a car and you're like, well, I'm not
paying sticker price, like no, no, no no, we play everything
is sticker, Like I'm not paying sticker price. Here's the
invoice price, Like come on, I'm not paying invoice. Invoice
isn't really invoice. We know there's holdback, like what can
you do for me? And if you don't like the
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deal that's being proposed, the only power you really have
as a consumer is in a negotiation to walk away.
It's the same thing in any negotiation. And the Chargers
somewhere like, you know, what the hell with it, We're out.
But what a weird marriage it is between l A.
I mean, because if they built their own stadium in
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like South Orange County, we can get some bleed over
from San Diego fans driving up right if you put
it close to a train station where some some Charger
fans were like, look, I'm not gonna my charger jersey
to the train, but once I get on the train,
I'm gonna go see my bolts right, drink on the
train the whole way off. But like this is literally
in the middle of nothing. No disrespect to Carson, but
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until this moment, you were more known for having an
Arco uh oil refinery right, like, oh, the area with
the Arcole refinery, Like, yeah, that's it. Yeah, it just
kind of random. And they're gonna move into their bigger home.
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But look, I think that whoever this whole battle for
l A thing, whoever wins first, is it gonna be.
That's l A likes a winner. And it's not like
the Rams have killed it. Although the Rams have won
a Super Bowl in many people's lifetimes, and the Rams
were in Los Angeles more recently than the Charges from
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in Los Angeles, but it was going back to when
I was in high school. So while right now they
appear to be the Clippers and the Rams the Lakers,
they're the Jets, the Rams, the Giants, they're the Mets,
the Rams, the Yankees. The difference is like to win
a town, you just have to win. You just have
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to win. But man, was it weird. And here's the
other truth that you need to know. The Rams have
been here for a year. This is heading their second year.
The Charge have been here for five minutes. If the
Raiders somehow were to come into l A next week
and go like, hey, we're gonna play our games in
LA over the next couple of years they would be
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more popular. We just are. It's one of the weirdest
things ever to happen to Los Angeles. The team that
they wanted, they wanted back, they could never get. The
team that moved the furthest away did come back, and
the team that was just down the road but was
always kind of operating under the cover of darkness because
San Diego is lovely, but it is not part of
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l A or Orange kind like not part of the
mindset of a Southern California sports fan. They came to
town and they're playing in a soccer stadium, which is
actually a really cool place to go watch a game.
Like everything is a good seat, everything is a good seat.
But it's a it's a weird arranged marriage, weird one.
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That's one of those ones where the NFL signed off
from the deal. They're gonna make, you know, six million
dollars in the relocation fees. Meanwhile, are they're gonna ever
get long term return on finally getting teams to l A.
I don't think the answer is a yes.
This is the best of the Doug gottlie Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America, Doug gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio, Live and direct from the city of
Angels where you have not one but two NFL teams.
I went and saw one in person yesterday afternoon. Not
one but two potential playoff teams in Major League Baseball
(00:25):
and uh, not one but two potential top five draft
picks at quarterback in the NFL playing in college this year.
We got a lot to offer here here here in
Los Angeles. Um. But one of the things that happened
yesterday in Los Angeles, I was actually attending the Chargers
Seahawks game. Gotta point out how impressed I am with
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the twelfth man showing up. Also will tell you part
of the twelfth man showing up is not just because
I do think that their uniforms are cool and the
football team has been one to which if you're a fan,
you're all in on. They have distinct, kind of vivid
personalities on that team. But let's be honest, they've been
among the most successful, the most dominant team in the
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Western United States the past half decade or so. And
that's where all you Seahawks fans with, Hey, this is
not a new jersey. Yeah, it's not like you were
Seahawks fans going back ten fifteen years ago. I didn't
see a lot of Matt hassleback jerseys in the crowd. Still,
I'm at the game, watching the Chargers play their first game,
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not sold out. I understand in Carson, which just the
whole thing is just weird and kind of surreal. There
was no huge desire for the NFL to come to
l A to begin with, and then you put together
two teams in l A in two separate years, and honestly,
neither of the team that people kind of wanted, right.
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I mean, if the Raiders came to town tomorrow and
played in the in the middle of the desert, or
played somewhere off the beaten path, they would draw far, far,
and wide more attention than the Rams and the Chargers combined.
That said, I'm at the game, and I didn't realize
that Michael Bennett was protesting. Michael Bennett, star defensive end
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for the Seattle Seahawks. I wasn't watching the Raiders preseason game,
but apparently Marshawn Lynch also did not stand up for
the Nashal anthem, to which I learned that Marsha Marshawn
Lynch didn't stand up for the Nashal anthem during most
of the last eleven years of his career. And so
when you couple that coming off of what was just
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an awful weekend in Charlottesville, awful, awful. Um, I understand
how anyone can make a I do in this case
if I don't know what each his political statement was,
or if there wasn't a statement, just they're in discussed
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with the aggress or lack thereof, or in many ways
it felt like regression in our country over the weekend.
I don't know why they chose to set him in
the h have said kind of why but whatever, Um okay,
But I think in totality it takes away from Colin
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Kaepernick's argument, or the argument made by some as to
why Colin Kaepernick stout in the NFL. It's the Doug
Otlip Show Fox Sports Radio really quickly because because others
have been unable to do so. Yes, I am anti
Nazi and anti Confederate flag. Having just returned from Israel
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about three weeks ago, three weeks ago, I can tell
you what the Nazis did to my relate people of
my religion, what they did to even some of their
own countrymen, what they did to Gypsies, what they did
to Gaze, what they did to Muslims. If you actually
crack a history book, it's the most disgraceful era in
(04:05):
the history in the in the modern history of war. Um.
And anyone who is foolish enough to flat to flash
that flag and think that it's not going to be
a great met with great energy, great resistance obviously thinks
that we're supposed to pretend we don't remember history and
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Confederate flag guy, Sorry, you're the same thing, Like, hey,
take the l dude, you lost a long time ago.
We've moved on, and you can tell me it's about
your hair, some Southern heritage thing. That's there's that's fine.
You can try and make the same argument about the
swastata being about some sort of German heritage, all right,
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when it when it is a sign of oppression and frankly,
listally in the swastika. And I don't I don't want
to get in this discussion, but I don't know. You're
sitting at home, You're like, this is this is our
country summer man, right, we're getting ready for football. I
just want to talk about football, damn it. I want
(05:10):
to talk The Angels are my baseball team. I have
no idea how they are right now tied to go
to the wild Cards, like I have no idea zero.
I have zero clue, Like Mike Trout and a bunch
of other stuff, there's no possible logical reason that they
and they're playing great. I'd love to talk about the Dodgers.
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Do they won this weekend? Have you seen what they've done?
But instead, here we are kind of reacting to um
a disgraceful protest in Charlottesville and what happened after that,
And we're reacting to two football players who have had
(05:53):
very good careers. And I guess I'm supposed to say, well,
these guys, let's listen. First. Here's Michael Bennett after the
game yesterday when asked why he didn't stand for Nashvial anthem.
But everything has been going on in the last couple
of months, and especially after the last couple of days,
sitting everything in Virginia, and someone's going on out there
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earlier today in Seattle. UM, I just wanted to be
able to use my platform and to be able to
continues who speak on in justice. I love the military.
I love my father was in the military. I love
I love hot dogs like any other America. I love
football like any other American. But I don't love segregation.
I don't love right so I don't love um oppression.
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I don't know love. I love Jinder Slant, and I
just I just want to see people who have the
equality to that they that they deserved. Okay, I mean, like, look,
we have to make sure we can textualize what happened
with Colin Kaepernick when he protested as opposed to Michael
Bennett was like, look, I'm'm paying attention to all the
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stuff going on, and I just want to use my platform,
which I've actually I always support. I've never been a
stick to whatever guy, because if if it was, I
would only be allowed to talk about basketball because I
was a basketball guy. Right, Like, don't get me wrong,
you still have your wheelhouse and things that you're an
expert in. And Michael Bennett knows and forgotten more about
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playing defensive line in football than I'll ever know. But
I also think that if you can be a thoughtful
human being and bring your own perspective to a discussion.
You know, why can't sports guy talk about non sports? Right?
So wait, we leave politics to just the politicians. Why
politicians having them shown themselves to be worthy of of
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of being alone in that discussion to begin with. Right,
So we should allow any sort of other person on
the street is allowed to speak on something on a
topic that they might not be educated on, as opposed
to an athlete. Now, look, the problem with Kaepernick was
when he protested, what he said after he protested, and
why he was protesting, and I know was a hot
button issue. I remember all the things that happened in
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the summer before last year when he took a knee
at the national anthem, And just just so you know,
when you don't stand up for the national anthem, like Mike,
my son and I were there and national anthem, take
off your hat, it's respectful. Put it over your heart,
you know, if you know the words, sing it. If
you don't pay attention, look at the flag. That's how
I teach my son. I do. I'm having traveled abroad
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even this summer, I can tell you there's flaws in
our country, not close. Still, the greatest crunch you ever.
Nothing like to descend or nothing like walking off that
plane and seeing old glory. But we're not perfect. And
if your way to say we're not perfect is hey,
I'm not going to stand from the national anthem. I
disagree with it, but I'd like to hear what you
have to say. Two things. One, Kaepernick, when he took
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a knee, said that cops were murderers and they're walking
the street, and that language still rings, still resonates in
many police officers ears, resonates in my ears, and I remember,
I know what he's talking about. Okay he did, Hey,
he had the pig sucks right. It was different. He
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offered no discussion. He wanted no discussion about either of
the either the presidential candidates. Instead, I wanted to try
and stay kind of a political even though he was
in the middle of a political debate. And even now
as he has done a lot of good works on
the back of his protest, he hasn't used that platform
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to continue to push his cost. Instead, people don't know
like he's he said, if he signs with the team,
he's not going to kneel for the national anthem, Like why,
why are things so much better now, Why have things
changed so much? Tell us, lead us. If you're going
to start a movement, well then you have to see
it all the way through. But more than anything, the
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reason that Bennett and that Marshawn Lynch I think, whether
it's reality or perception, perception oftentimes becomes a reality. Why
their protests hurt Kaepernick is they're not gonna lose their
job over it. And look, Marshawn is a pain the ass.
Ask anybody there's a reason he was Buffalo and then
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he's in Seattle, and Seattle he was just quirky enough
to work at that particular time. Every he dive into
the end zone and grab his nuts, which is like
it's funny, but it's because it's Marshawn right, Like he
can got to get away because like it's Marshawn and
whether or not he sticks and it's the starting running
back for the Raiders as they're pushing for doesn't have
anything to do with the protests, and it is the Raiders.
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They're able to do things because but it's can he
play if he still has juice in the tank, he'll
be on the Raiders. He'll be getting the football on
the one yard line to win playoff games or win
a super Bowl. Same thing with Michael Bennett can really play.
And while I do think that there's a portion of
hesitation in signing Kaepernick because of the protest and the
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viscerer reaction to his language in discussing the protest us
in the pig socks and things like in the castor
T shirt all that stuff, there's also major questions about
whether or not he can play, how much he wants to,
how much he wants to make when playing, what type
of opportunity he needs in order to sign that contract.
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And while Bennett and Marshawn may on some levels be
sewing solidarity towards Kaepernick, they're really hurting the argument that
Kaepernick's only not in the NFL because of the protest.
Malcolm Jason still in the NFL. And be sure to
catch live editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays
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at three p m. Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Goodell had has had,
in my estimation, five major influential owners as cornerstones of
his power base. Pittsburghs Dan Rooney, Carolina's Jerry Richardson, Jerry
Jones of Dallas, Robert Craft of New England, and the Giants.
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John Mara Rooney died this year. Richard Sin eighty one
is declining influence. Jones, as Adam Schefter reports, is furious
with the Commissioner for the Elliott suspension, as I believe
he thinks the commissioner is too suspension happy. Craft is
still wounded over the Brady suspension and verdict. Mara Steel
in Goodell's corner rock solid. I believe that's quite a
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change from his power base. What is it? So the
idea is like will Roger Will Roger Goodell lose his
job over the Jerry Jones thing? Like Jerry Jones is
mad because they may have they they suspended Zekei Elliott
on Friday out as I think most of you know,
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I hosted Colin Cowherd show The Herd on Friday. Like
my my first thing is when I hear domestic violence,
I would just like us all to take a breath
and realize, Like, honestly, I kind of think the Ray
Rice video is a good one too, Like that's what
it looks like. It's not always that violent. Sometimes it's
even it gets escally and gets even worse. But that's
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what it looks like. It's disgraceful for a man to
hit a woman. UM. I also think that, Look, there's
the offer up the possibility that much like the Tom
Brady case, the NFL overstepped in, the NFL did not
have the evidence that they believed that they have. I
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don't think tom Brady did anything wrong. I don't do.
I think they inflated or reinflated the footballs probably. I
also think they did so because Tom Brady liked the
football is a certain way. Do I think he ordered
the code read? I don't. Um, there's text messages out
there between this woman, uh, the the victim, alleged victim,
(13:47):
and her friends. UM and Ezekiel's dad has come out
and said that there is evidence, and of course his
lawyers have come out come out. Whatever. Look, I am
not capable personally of hitting a woman. I'm I'm personally
not capable of doing it. I don't have that capability
within me. And I would also like to think, like
I'd like to believe, goodness of heart, that somebody would
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not say they were hit by somebody else, especially a
woman saying hit by a man and make it up.
I would like to believe that all rape victims are
in fact grape victims. But sometimes people lie. It's not
a high percentage of times, and those people that lie
do far more damage to other women than they ever
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thought in the moment to which they might have good
reason to. It might be a super toxic relationship and
it's their cry for help, and there may have been
mental abuse, whatever. But my first thing when there's domestic
violence case, I just I don't think we get we
should immediately go my fantasy football team is screwed, or
(14:56):
throw up the Cowboys schedule, Like, man, what are they
gonna do this year? Was the record gonna be right? Like,
I just that's the wrong tact, wrong tactic. Wrong. It
doesn't mean you're not going to have that discussion, doesn't
mean that your mind can't go there. It eventually will.
It's just like I don't think the first time you
hear it, you should think she's lying, not healthy. But
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as the evidence starts to come out, if you read
the NFL side, fairly pretty damaging. If you start to
hear some of his side, you start to wonder, wait
a second, is this legitimate? I think the conversation that
you have between Roger Goodell and UM and Jerry Jones
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is an honest one, which is very simple. What do
you want me to do? You know, we suspended right
Rights for two games, which is the longest suspension the
history of the league for domestic violence. And people saw
the video and wanted me fired, wanted to leave burned
to the ground. I spent a guy two games or
something that was handled by the by the criminal courts
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with a deferred pre with a pre trial diversion, visionary
hearing or something right like, the criminal justice system views
this in a completely different way than how we view
it in our in our own kind of Twitter justice. Right,
I suspended him, but I guess I didn't suspend him
long enough. Now we blackballed him, but then we had
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to come up with a new policy and it's six
games and oh yeah, by the way, like look, this
is what happens. For example, we just had Matt Rulan
right now. Matt Rule has never been accused of any
ethical misconduct ever. Ever, he wouldn't have gotten that job
had they not done their due diligence and found any
sort of Remember, he had two assistant coaches that they
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had to early on had to jettison. The point is
that when you come in, you follow the mess that
was left behind at Baylor. The most powerful people on campus,
our compliance and basically your HR people in this case
Title nine on a campus because of what the previous
regime is, it was alleged to have done right. Well,
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that's what's happening in the NFL. There was such a
visceral reaction towards the great how the handling and Greg Hardy,
the handling of what's the kicker from the giants Josh
Brown and and by the way, I I think I'm
maybe alone. I think Josh Brown was done wrong. I
do because we don't know what he meant in his journal,
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which was supposed to remain private. But nonetheless, we chose
to punish somebody for something that we don't actually know
what actually happened. Oh, we wanted justice, and so now
he's out of the league. But um, what ends up
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happening is if you Jerry Jones sits down. Roger Goodell
and Jerry Jones can be mad as you want, like, hey, Jerry,
I appointed somebody else. This is not I took it
away from my desk and gave the power to a
former prosecutor. She conducted the investigation. If I get her
investigation and she thinks it's more probable than not that
something happened, that Ezekiel did something to this girl, and
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I bury that, I get fired. Okay, I am the
laughing stock of professionals, Like I'm gone. You can't do that, Jerry.
Don't you remember what happened when we we try to
investigate ray Rice and we suspended ray Rice, and then
(18:43):
the video came out and we didn't do enough to
get the video. Now, we might have done too much,
We might have overstepped our purview. But okay, that's what
we risk. If you don't think bygones, become bygones. The
New England Patriots had their first preseason game at home
last week. Do you know who was there? Roger Goodell?
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You know who'll be there when they kick off the season,
Roger Goodell. At the end of the day, he's making
them a lot of money, and he's doing his best
to try and keep all thirty two owners happy. And
even if five were more powerful than others, I think
he is out in the You're mad at me? Is
time heals all wounds. I'm still fill in your pockets,
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and thirty one other owners agreed with my move to
suspend your player. Be sure to catch live editions of
the Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m.
Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. Let's catch up with David Shaw, head
coach at Stanford Cardinal. Uh, they get read to head down?
I think next Saturday to Sydney to take on the
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Owl's coach joins this year on the Doug Gottlic Show.
Next Saturday, you guys head down? Correct? Yeah, a few
days from now? Um? Okay, So, so how has this um?
Let's let's let's let me let me kind of rise
my level of intelligence here? What's your level of preparedness
for the season this year as opposed to previous years,
no two days and earlier game than in years in
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the past. Well, I think the big thing for us
is revamping our entire training camp schedule to a commody
for having no two day practices, and a lot of
lustments have been said about two day practices. I think
there's a way to do them intelligently to keep your
team healthy and safe, but at the same time train
them for what is a long and grueling football season. Um,
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but no two days this year, so we had to
be very smart about how we did it, and I
think our guys did really, really well. We still scrimmaged,
we still did a lot of things that were physical,
and we gave him a day off and we took
care of him as well. So I think we're pretty
we're pretty well prepared to start getting into game plans
a lot of a lot of a lot more full
speed reps, is what I read that you guys, you
guys used that is that accurate? Well, we we were
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smart about it and that we we tried to scrimmage
before the day off so that we could recover the
day off, and then the first day after the day off,
we you know, don't put the full full gear on
and we kind of grease greased him back up before
we we get back to kind of being physical again.
So it's really about being smartest. It's not just about
you know, banging these guys together, but at the same time,
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making sure that we get enough physical we have enough
meeting time, we have enough walk throughs to make sure
guys know what they're what they're supposed to do. Um, okay,
so David shall join us in the Doug Gotlicia. What
about Keller Chris last time we saw him, he heard
his knee Sun Bowl. Uh, there was some talk in
the off season that they didn't know, you guys didn't
know whether or not he be ready. He's a go
and he he's he looks great, he feels great. We
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anticipated maybe giving him a day off or two during
the course of training camp. Um, he said no swelling,
he said no setbacks. Um, he looks on and I
can't wait to watch him game one. That's that's really amazing. Now,
of course you have to replace Christian McCaffrey, who didn't
play in that Sun Bowl, and he showed kind of
the supporting cast. What's that gonna like? What what's the
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what's the kind of game planning that's gonna massively change
because you guys were able to smartly use him in
so many different facets. What's that can be like for
you're getting ready for the game against Rice. Well, the
biggest thing is that it's going to take about four
different guys to do what Christian did by himself. Um.
Bryce Love is an outstanding running back. You know, Christians
two games last year and Bryce rush for a hundred
yards and both of those games. Um, he's an explosive, quick,
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agile guy that actually runs physical between the tackles as well.
But at the same time, I think you'll see the
ball get spread around a little bit more. Um, I
think you'll see our receivers make more plays in j
j R. Sega, Whiteside and Trenton Irwin. Our tight ends
will be more involved, led by our senior captain, their
Dalton Schultz. Um. So I think we've got a good
group of guys. I think we can absorb all of
those uh touches that Christiancaffrey is leaving for the rest
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of those guys. Now, last year, remember you beat Kansas State,
then you guys had a week off and then you
beat USC to ten. There's some similarities here. Obviously. Now
you're playing in Australia and then you have the week
off coming back. There is some similarities in having that
week off. Do you I mean, I mean, I guess
you have to like it, but do you like that?
And get ready for your first Pack twelve game against
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the team favored the favorite to win their side of
the pack twelve in USC. Uh. Yeah, I think I'm
excited about our players are excited about it. I think
the Sydney trip is going to be phenomenal. We're gonna
teach it and treat it just like a bowl game.
You know. The first couple of days there, we're gonna
kind of we're gonna go to the zoo, We're gonna
go to the beach, we're gonna do some cultural exchange
things with the people Australia, and um, they're excited to
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host us and have us and I can't wait. Um.
After about the third day, we'll really kind of batten
down the hatches and get ready to play football game
and UM treat his game. We're gonna try to go
out there and win. UM. And then the good thing
is coming back with that bye week. Uh. You know,
the first three days we're gonna let our let our
guys to be completely off, helped him try to get
back on the proper sleep side sleep cycle of a
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West Coast time zone. UM. And then we'll start our
our USC preparation and have about a week and a
half to be ready for a really good church and team.
You know what's interesting is you're talking about it a
smart way to do two days, and there is there's
a smart way to do the overseas trip and get
guys on the right sleep Cyclely, it's it's fascinating to me.
That's something that I think we do a bad job
in the media of talking enough about is that coaches
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have to find like, you can't practice hard every day,
even the twenty hour rule in season, you can't go
every day full bore because your players have to have
their legs and perform at their optimum level. How much
of your practice timing, practice time planning is set around
not just what you want to accomplish, but having the
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guys play at optimal health once you get around to
playing in the game. It's everything, It mean, it's everything.
It's making sure that we're not overloading them mentally, overloading
them physically, and make sure we're getting enough work but
not too much work and not too little work. So
managing it so and I'm so glad you bring that
up because with all of the concustom research and concussion
studies and all things going on there, um, you know,
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the coaches sometimes get thrown under the bus, as as
guys that are chro magnum guys that just want to
go out there and smash these guys heads together. And
that's not even close because if you really think about it, Um,
we love these guys and care about these guys more
than anybody else. These are our guys. These are people
that we spend all these time with. We want them
to be healthy, want them to be safe, want them
to perform at an optimal level. So there are many
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times we'll go through and say, hey, you know, today's
schedule for a two hour practice. You know what, let's
take thirty minutes out. Our guys legs are tired. You know. Hey,
you know tomorrow is supposed to be a pad to day.
Let's take the paths off tomorrow. We we hit enough
this past weekend. So coaches all over the country make
those decisions based on the health and welfare of their players. Well,
there's there's two parts to it. Um. Let me ask
you about the hitting, because I want to get back
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back to the conditioning and the legs in a second.
You're the most physical team in the Pacts, well, one
of the most physical teams in the country. So I
guess just the football angle of it is, how do
you maintain kind of the cultural of culture of physicality,
the style that you play both offensively and different defensively
with less hitting in practice. How's that done? So? And
(25:57):
it's probably less hitting that most people would think. So
for us, we rarely ever practice for two more than
two and a half hours. I mean that's like the maximum,
usually about two or fifteen, two or twenty minutes. The
first forty five minutes of our practice is non contact.
We are doing a special team's drills, will go through
individual drills, will go through group drills where the offense
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work separately from the defense, and it's teaching. It's technique
work before we ever do anything competitive. So the the
big chunk of a big chunk of our practice every
single day is non physical, it's mental, it's it's technique work.
And then we'll have typically two team periods about twelve
to fifteen plays each um where it's guys going on
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going against guys physical when we get after it, now
we're gonna be physical, we're gonna we're gonna get after
it as well as anybody in college football. And then
we'll go onto another period where it's not as physical,
so we concentrate the physicality UM in practice into certain periods,
but it can't be the entire practice. We're allowed to
practic us for four hours and for me that's just
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too much. That we practice the shorter and it'll be
very intense when it's time to be intense, and it'll
be a teaching temper when it's time to teach. It's fascinating.
So I coached the team David Shaw, our guest seventh
year head coach at the Stanford as they get ready
to take on Rice in Sydney, Australia a week from Saturday. UM.
I coached the team in Israel's like the Jewish Olympics. Anyway,
we had we had two days and as a as
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a guy who had never been a head coach, but
it had played forever, Like I know, how important is
like kind of the balance of being sharp and get
enough shots up UM and knowing what you're doing and
practicing with the level of intensity. On the other hand,
you want to have want to have your legs, you know,
you want to feel really really good. And I found
that that trying kind of managing that was such an
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important part of the job so that players and you know,
this for a big Saturday. Guys are at their that
magic level to which you don't have to say or
do anything. Their bodies are right, their minds are right,
and they're sharp, and they're not overburdened with what you did.
On the other hand, you didn't under teach him under coaches,
they are not prepared. I bring all that up because
I was really bothered by the Josh Rosen thing, because
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it it makes it seem like all guys do is
spend time around the facility. All they do is watch
film and practice and lift weights. And he made it.
He made the statement of the school and football like
you can't really do them both at a high level.
You're at the highest level academically, your school plays at
the highest level in football and in the Pact, not
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just in the Pact twell, but nationally. When you heard
those remarks, what did you think? Well? I I gave
an interview shortly after. I usually don't give interviews after
someone else that I didn't know the university says anything,
But I thought it was important to frame the conversation
the in the way that is beneficial to everyone. UM.
In my opinion, UM, young young men and young women
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that play sports in college have difficult schedules. Um, And
to think that a college football uh edule is so
much more difficult than a women's soccer schedule or other
others they're there. There are young many young women that
are working while they're going to college, and they have
to work to afford to go to college. What you
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learn at university is time management. You learn how to
make critical decisions. Hey, I don't have time for this
and I have time for this. Um. So that's that's
something that you you learned during the course of your college.
And and uh, I think it's very capable, It's very
possible because so many people. I have a lot of
friends I went to u c l A, know people
that have worked their coach there, and I know people
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that teach school there. And it's very doable there. Um.
Is it easy? Absolutely not. But if you want to
be great in your sport and you want to be
a great student, and then now it's not going to
be easy and other people are going to have time
to do things that you don't have to do. But
you've made the choice, um, to be to try to
be elite at a at a university. So um, the difficulties, Hey,
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you accept those um and accept the challenges, and your
accomplishments when you do accept something difficult, are even more fulfilling.
So I would hate for the argument to be, hey,
you know what we need to um just have guys
go to go to football and not go to school. Well,
then what message are we sending because so many of
these guys that play college sports, young men and women,
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they're not going to do it professionally. They need their education.
They need that college degree to move on and be
successful in life. David Jah joining us on the Doug
Otlib Show of his six seasons, five of which have
ended in double digit wins. You guys, when your last
six games of last season with a great finishing kick
and you finish up this year your last three are
at home on the farm. We mentioned you start off, um,
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you start off on the road or in Sydney against Rice. Uh.
Kind of an interesting your You know your ranked fifteen,
kind of right there in the middle of the top
twenty five. What's your what's what's your level of expectation?
When you've had some great teams, You've been around great
teams previously becoming head coach, you get a sense kind
of early on. Do you have that what it takes
if everybody stays healthy to be special. What's your sense
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of this club as of this day. I think we
have a few things going for us. UM. You know,
a quarterback coming off an injury, but a quarterback that
had experience and and as as undefeated as a starter
and do some really good things at the end of
the year. UM. But you look at us as a whole,
you know, I think we've got really good experience. We're
more experienced on the offensive line. We're experienced on the defense,
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the front seven and the secondary. UM. I think we've
got some talented young guys that are coming and coming
into their own UM. Like any coach, we want to
we need to stay healthy, and we need to find
the best way to utilize the the talents and abilities
of our of our team. UM. But I think we
have a chance. I think we have a chance to
be very good. We have a very competitive schedule, as
you alluded to. UM. UM starting out early on with
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going to Sydney, but then coming back with USC San
Diego State in the u c l A UM and
get into the bulk of our of our conference, and
then you throw in Washington at the end of the year,
and and and Cal and Notre Dame. UM, it's a
it's a tough schedule, and I think if we can
stay healthy and and continue to improve, because we can't
ever get to the point where I think we're okay,
you know, let's go play everybody. You know, we got it.
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We're gonna have to improve throughout the season, UM, in
order to have a chance to hopefully find a way
to that PACTOL Championship game. And that's what you did
last year. You improved throughout the season last year. We'll coach, listen,
We'll let you get back after it. We really appreciate
the discussion. Safe travels to and from Sydney, and don't
be afraid to bring back a dub so we can
see that matchup against USC at the College SEUM. Thanks
for being our guest on Fox Sports Radio. No problem,
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gonna talk to you. Fox Sports Radio has the best
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I Heart Radio app. I was one of the fifty
four at the stub Hub Center in Carson, California, yesterday
for the Chargers Maiden voyage into preseason football against the
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Seattle Seahawks, and I will point out continue to point
out the place was probably one third at least one
third Seahawks fans. Twelfth Man travels really really well. It
just does. Now. You might say to yourself, Ella's Bed's
worst town, right, That's what That's what people always say,
Like Ellttle bed Moore Town Dodgers, who four million people
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last year would draw over four million people this year.
Angels will go over three million this year. Um and
last year for preseason football, the Rams preseason opener was
the largest preseason football game in the United States history.
Official tenants was eighty nine thousand, one D forty nine
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forty that's for the Rams. Of course, they did play
the Dallas Cowboys, who are um arguably the most popular
team in America, and Cowboys have always trained in southern California.
Cowboys have some swag as opposed to as much as
the twelve man does travel well, let's not act like
Seahawks fans are Steelers fans were probably number two Cowboys
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fans one in terms of traveling fans or fans that
put the jerseys on. Yeah, Patriot fans show up, but
it's like Red Sox fan when they won the World Series.
You're not really a Patriot fan. You people like teams
that win. That's what I found. So look the Chargers,
and they did get booed at home. But part of
the reason they got booed Kellen Clemons came in. He's
(34:16):
their backup quarterback. Through an eighty nine yard touchdown pass
to Kelvin Benjamin. He should have just dropped the mic
and be like, I'm good, handed over to Cardale Jones.
Instead he kept playing and it just got bad if
you guys watching, and they had two interceptions both his
fault and a fumble. Also his fault on a missed
fake handoff where he just dropped the football. Kellen Clemmons
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bringing the Jets to the Chargers was not a good thing.
It wasn't uh, And it should be pointing out that
it's I mean, like Carson's a random location. It just
is inside the stadium. It's great they actually have in
the corners of the stadium they have little kind of
grassy area is where people can eat food. So they
(35:01):
allow food trucks to come in set up shop. So
they have plenty of vending. Like it's a really cool
little stuff is twenties seven thousand seats. It should be thirty,
but some of the seats aren't uncovered yet. Because it's California,
there's some sort of they have to do some sort
of seismic ecological review of seriously, and Carson is Carson
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is the town if you look on a map, literally
just south of Compton. It's in between Orange County and
Los Angeles. It's on the campus of cow State University
of Domingus Hills. You're like, what is that? Where is that?
My point? Exactly, it's right next to industrial areas, right
next to Compton. There's strip malls across the street. There's
(35:49):
no There is set up parking on the campus, but
not a ton of it. And it's just not a
place whould you go? Like, oh, an NFL team plays there?
And remember Burr they are playing in this home for
two years before they moved to the palatial new place
where they're going to share with the Rams. But what
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this is just an arranged marriage, just what yesterday felt
like what it has to be like? Sorry, like arranged marriage?
First night you go home, like what do you do? Like, yeah,
I know we're married and our parents said, we're supposed
to be married, but do we have to sleep in
the same bed? Like, what do we have to do?
We have to consummate this marriage was so strange, and
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the Chargers had a vibrant fan base in San Diego.
But like, at some point I actually understand the Charger's
point of view, which is like, hey, we offered the
possibility of a stadium that could get you a Super Bowl,
get you in the College Football playoff, could get you
a Final Four. It was supposed to be a dome stadium.
The l A one will be domed. Right. That's you're like,
(36:52):
why is it dome when the weather is good? So
you can get basketball in there, so you can have
presidential conventions in there, so you can have anything possible
in there. At San Diego built it, it all would
have at San Diego. It's a great vacation destination. You
would have had two or three bowl games in addition
to the bowl games that they have, and they might
actually lose, And at some point in negotiations you have
(37:17):
to go like, hey, look, if you don't hit my number,
I'm walking out the door. Right. That's you go in
to buy a car and you're like, well, I'm not
paying sticker price, like no, no, no no, we play everything
is sticker, Like I'm not paying sticker price. Here's the
invoice price, Like come on, I'm not paying invoice. Invoice
isn't really invoice. We know there's holdback, like what can
you do for me? And if you don't like the
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deal that's being proposed, the only power you really have
as a consumer is in a negotiation to walk away.
It's the same thing in any negotiation. And the Chargers
somewhere like, you know, what the hell with it, We're out.
But what a weird marriage it is between l A.
I mean, because if they built their own stadium in
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like South Orange County, we can get some bleed over
from San Diego fans driving up right if you put
it close to a train station where some some Charger
fans were like, look, I'm not gonna my charger jersey
to the train, but once I get on the train,
I'm gonna go see my bolts right, drink on the
train the whole way off. But like this is literally
in the middle of nothing. No disrespect to Carson, but
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until this moment, you were more known for having an
Arco uh oil refinery right, like, oh, the area with
the Arcole refinery, Like, yeah, that's it. Yeah, it just
kind of random. And they're gonna move into their bigger home.
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But look, I think that whoever this whole battle for
l A thing, whoever wins first, is it gonna be.
That's l A likes a winner. And it's not like
the Rams have killed it. Although the Rams have won
a Super Bowl in many people's lifetimes, and the Rams
were in Los Angeles more recently than the Charges from
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in Los Angeles, but it was going back to when
I was in high school. So while right now they
appear to be the Clippers and the Rams the Lakers,
they're the Jets, the Rams, the Giants, they're the Mets,
the Rams, the Yankees. The difference is like to win
a town, you just have to win. You just have
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to win. But man, was it weird. And here's the
other truth that you need to know. The Rams have
been here for a year. This is heading their second year.
The Charge have been here for five minutes. If the
Raiders somehow were to come into l A next week
and go like, hey, we're gonna play our games in
LA over the next couple of years they would be
(39:54):
more popular. We just are. It's one of the weirdest
things ever to happen to Los Angeles. The team that
they wanted, they wanted back, they could never get. The
team that moved the furthest away did come back, and
the team that was just down the road but was
always kind of operating under the cover of darkness because
San Diego is lovely, but it is not part of
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l A or Orange kind like not part of the
mindset of a Southern California sports fan. They came to
town and they're playing in a soccer stadium, which is
actually a really cool place to go watch a game.
Like everything is a good seat, everything is a good seat.
But it's a it's a weird arranged marriage, weird one.
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That's one of those ones where the NFL signed off
from the deal. They're gonna make, you know, six million
dollars in the relocation fees. Meanwhile, are they're gonna ever
get long term return on finally getting teams to l A.
I don't think the answer is a yes.
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