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September 26, 2017 43 mins

Doug talks about the corruption in college basketball and sets the record straight on what people are incorrectly assuming. He tells you why he thinks everyone has officially lost their minds when it comes to protests in the NFL. Plus Brandon Marshall from the Denver Broncos joins the show to talk about their game against the Bills and how he made changes in his local police force. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom Up America. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
Sports Radio, coming to you live and direct from the
City of Angels. So much to talk about today. Dallas
Cowboys go into Arizona and put a stake through the
heart of the Cardinals. Who are um. They are exactly

(00:24):
where we thought that they are who we thought they were.
The Cardinals are right, they are who we thought they were.
We thought they were rebuilding without knowing every building. And
I don't care who the quarterback was last night. If
you can't protect your quarterback against the three man rush,
you're not beating any team, let alone the Dallas Cowboys.
But Doc was better. The Cowboys were good, and in
spite of the fact they were tied going into the

(00:45):
fourth quarter and the Cardinals had the ball going into
the fourth quarter. I don't think the score is indicative though,
of a Cowboys dominant performance as it appeared to be.
But they were better than the Cardinals and they did
move their record to two and one on the season.
So Week two is complete, we will recap it. Dwyane

(01:07):
Wade is a Cleveland Cavalier we'll get to that. Remember
when Lebron and d Wade first game they played against
each other, when Lebron was in a Calves uniform for
the second time around, and they were hugging, and Lebron said,
we'll do this again sometime. Did you think it was
gonna be Cleveland? Surprise? It didn't happen last year, but
it is going to happen this year. So d Wade

(01:30):
in Cleveland, Mellow in Oklahoma City? You could have seen
d Wade in Cleveland. I'm not sure. I mean, I'm
not sure you could have seen Mellow in Oklahoma City.
I'll get to our thoughts heading into an incredible which
looks to be an incredible NBA season. But the story
of the day is the knock at the door, right

(01:53):
I like every man alive there, there's like two knocks
at the maybe three knocks at the door that you
don't want a right. First one is and there's like
a kid there like dad, whoa wait, how old do
you start doing the math in your head? Oh? Second

(02:14):
one is? I R s all right? Well, you know
I thought that was a deduction. I really did. I
just I thought I could deduct everything that I paid
on everything, And the third one is FBI. Uh, there
are different types of investigations, and it's important to point
out that just because the FBI arrest you does not

(02:37):
mean that you're found guilty of a crime. Very very important,
and so all ten people who were charged today in
this corruption fraud and corruption scheme are innocent until they're
proven guilty. However, however, uh this is in anyways, how

(03:00):
the how the game has been played by some there's
a couple of common misconceptions, right. One misconception is that
everybody's doing it right, and the guy who gets caught
always says everybody I've gotten pulled over for him, like, hey,
why did you pull me over? You were going eighty? Yeah,
but everybody's going ad I caught you. Doesn't really matter, right,

(03:22):
this is this. I have the same feelings towards people
who got caught in the steroid investigation or the bulk
was Balko or Kirk Rodomski. Remember Kirk Rodomski, he was
the Mets clubhouse guy who had the steroids. People like, well,
Kirk Rwdomski. There's Kirkwrodomski in every clubhouse, Like, yeah, but
we caught Kirk Rodomski. Barry Bonds was caught with Balko.

(03:47):
So with that mind, yes, other people are doing it
and don't get caught that I would agree with. It
doesn't make it okay that you were breaking rules, whether
n see it rules or in this case, federal law US.
I love it. Guy who guy who is so woke
against the n c A wakes up today, was like,

(04:07):
oh the n c A. Man like the n c
A is like, dude, we didn't even do anything. We
just woke up and like, hey, here you go, here's
the case. And unlike your investigations, we actually have video surveillance,
we actually have wide wire tapping, and we have the
ability two uh, we have the ability to call witnesses.

(04:30):
Right we have we can make you testify. June Kim
is the acting U S Attorney. This is what he
said about how it looks for college basketball. The picture
painted by the charges brought today is not a pretty one.
Coaches at some of the nation's top programs soliciting and

(04:50):
accepting cash bribes, managers and financial advisors, circling blue chip
prospects like Coyotes, and employees of one of the world's
large just sports where companies secretly funneling cash to the
families of high school recruits. Yeah, that's Jim Jim Jim Gotto,
who's the director of Global sports Marketing for Adidas and

(05:11):
Adidas Grassroots. Uh, that's where that's where so much this
money comes from. Right. He funnels the money through various
different means. And in this case, college coaches has gotten involved. Now,
the really smart college coaches, a lot of them, the
head coaches, they have their hands washed of it. I
don't know what happened. I don't know. They don't even
have their assistance, don't even have to be involved. The

(05:32):
shoe company or a financial advisor wants to get involved.
Fund The difference is that most of the assistant coaches
have the relationships with the players or the relationships with
with the au coaches, and those relationships are valuable, so
valuable that financial advisors, and this is I thought it
was appropriate, they're like wolves, Well, listen if I give

(05:56):
you because think about if you're a financial advisor and
you hear a it has a chance to be an
NBA player, I give you some money to make sure
that that guy uses me as his financial investor, financial
advisor when he gets done, I'll end up making that
that money back in spades. Common misconception is everybody's doing it,

(06:21):
everybody's doing everybody's not doing it. But there are a
portion of kids that have their hands out, and those
ones who have their hands out everybody knows about. And
then the question becomes, can either Bruce Pearl or Rick
Petino survived this right? The The irony to this is,

(06:42):
I don't know how many guys everybody knows about Bruce
Pearl in Tennessee, but I'm not sure if you guys
are aware. Bruce prol once upon a time was the
assistant coach at Iowa. And when he was at Iowa,
he was recruiting a player was the best player in
the state of Illinois, and he recorded a conversation Shan
in which he asked him repeatedly what he got from

(07:06):
the University of Illinois to commit and sign with the
University of Illinois. I believe it was like seventy grand
and a and a Chevy Blazer at the time. This
is back in the eighties, and that brought down the
University of Illinois. The irony too, it is there is
no at least I'm I'm still in the process of

(07:26):
reading seventy pages. But Chuck Person, of course, played played
for Auburn, is is now an assistant coach at Auburn,
apparently was funneling money to Austin Wiley, who joined the
team mid season last year, and because of these wire taps,
a recorded conversation would end Bruce Pearl's career, which is uh,

(07:52):
I mean ironic to say the least, right. And then
there's Rick Pettino. The Pettino there is, of course the
ability to say I have plausible deniability. I just recruited
the player. I didn't know about it. I didn't talk
to Jim Gotto, who's the director of Adidas. I didn't
tell him to make sure that this kid got a

(08:12):
hundred thousand dollars. I didn't know nothing about nothing, which
is essentially what he said in regard to the prostitution
sting in which a former assistant coach was bringing in
prostitutes to entertain recruits and their and their fathers or
their guardians or their guys whoever it was with him

(08:33):
in order to entice them to getting them to sign
at Louisville. Like the idea that you didn't know again,
like I don't know nothing about nothing about nothing. Patinos
survived the Italian restaurant and the black mail extortion attempt.

(08:53):
Pattino has survived the prostitution, the use of prostitutes in
order to entice recruits. This one feels like, even if
they don't have a smoking gun, in terms of proof
that he knew, it's probably enough. It's probably enough, and

(09:14):
so yeah, you were. What you're going to be exposed
to is the CD underbelly of college basketball. There's a
CD underbelly to pretty much every profession. But what you
have to at some point your mind realizes, Yes, people
cheat on taxes, most people don't. Yes, people cheat the
n c A, most people don't. Yes, kids are on

(09:37):
the take and getting money from agents and shoe companies.
Most kids are not. And to the fan that says,
hey everybody's doing it, you got caught. And then of
course there's USC who is uh like, look, USC has

(09:59):
this is kind of I don't know how much you
followed USC basketball, but this is how it always works.
Go back and look historically during the eighties, they had
they won the they won the Pack ten I believe
with Hank Gathers and Bo Kimball and Tom Lewis as freshman,
and then they went on n c A probation, and
then in the nineties they had at rolling and then

(10:20):
they went and then they went through n SEE investigations
and then O. J. Mayo is there and they had
to go in again, and then they went through like
this is the pattern for USC, by the way, it's
the pattern for for some other of these schools, the
Louisvilles of this world, the Auburns of this world. Um,
not as much Oaklahoma State where one of the assistants,
but some of the states back to when he was
at South Carolina, but Oaklahoma State in at least in football,

(10:43):
you know, going back to the eighties was But USC
wants so badly to do things right in terms of
their investigation that they called in former FBI director Louis
Free and his firm Free Group International Solutions to work
with him on conducting internal investigation. Other words, Lynn Swann,

(11:04):
who's the athletic director at USC, called in the wolf.
You ain't got no wait for the wolf. We should
be coming directly. That's all you had to say. All
you got to say, right, That's what the say's like. Oh,
you said in the Wolf Okay, we're good there. Like
the last thing that Len Swan wants like, don't come

(11:25):
across the street. That's what happens in college basketball is
for the most part, these schools, the the basketball teams
will get thrown under the proverbial bus as long as
the n c A chooses not to come across the
street and investigate football. Basketball looks cool, it's fun, It'll
make you a little bit of money if you make
a run to the n c A tournament. Brings gives

(11:47):
you some attention. But the truth is that football is
where the money is. Football is where the TV money is.
Football's where the donation money is. Football is king at
universities and when basketball coaches get implicated by the FBI,
schools are embarrassed. But they will also sacrifice those basketball
programs for the betterment of football. That's why I see

(12:09):
called in the Wolf Leuie Free Who the Free Report
was the Penn State Report. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three
pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. Let's Welcome in Mark Slaire three
times Super Bowl champion, Fox NFL analyst, Uh, I think
my my takeaway from last night is obviously the Arizona

(12:30):
Cardinal's offensive line was was awful, especially late against that
three man pass rush, and as impresses I want to
be by the Cowboys. Last night was more about the
fact that the Cardinals are just not very good, like
they're rebuilding whether they know it or not. But you
have a much more keen. I you're an expert analyst.
Of course, the Super Bowl champion played in this league
for over a decade. What's your takeaway from Monday Football? Yeah,

(12:53):
I mean I'm not a whole lot different than you.
I think that the Cardinals are aggressive, outstanding defense. It's
just gonna wear out because the Cardinals offense can't stay
on the field. They can't run the ball with any consistency,
and they certainly can't pass protect. I mean, if you've
got five guys that can't block two guys and you
need to find five new guys, I mean, that's what
it boils down to for me. And you know, oftentimes

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you try to get clever, you try to get tricky.
You move your left tackle, who's been a left tackle
forever over to the right tackle position thinking you're you know,
you're gonna create an opportunity, and you end up creating
two holes. Um. So it just is a philosophically, it's
a bad look for me. Um. They've very very much struggled.
And you know, you talk about the Dallas Cowboys. Dallas
Cowboys have a formula. Um. They should have been down

(13:37):
fourteen nothing right off the bat holding call on felt
there at the right tackle took away a touchdown. Then
they miss a field goal, and and that's the way
it goes. And the Cowboys had three plays in that
first quarter, three plays in the entire first quarter. But
it just goes to show you that if you can
possess the ball, you can run it, you can set
up your play action. We saw the the Dak Prescott

(14:00):
you know rollout or not even a rollout, but to
reach zone play where he goes around the edge and
launched himself over for the touchdown. When you have the
ability to possess the ball, to control the line of scrimmage, um,
you open things up. And I think the biggest thing
for the Dallas Cowboys is formulaically speaking. You know, people
will talk about Dak Prescott being a game manager. Good

(14:21):
manage the game because you've got to protect that defense.
It's fast, they're young, they can make plays. We saw
playmakers on that defense. But if if you let them
just hang out there to drive dry, they're not They're
not a they're not the most talented group. And you
saw what happened when they had to be on the
field for an extended amount of time against the Denver

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Broncos two weeks ago. So there's a formula. And and
I believe that Dak Prescott is an outstanding young quarterback.
He's gonna be you know, he's honest, way to be
in one of those stars in this league. But there's
a formula in Dallas to win games, and they've got
to adhere to that formula otherwise, Uh, they'll expose that
defensive get blown out all right to Denver Broncos defense
could not have been more impressive in week two. Was equally,

(15:04):
it was pretty impressive in Week one as well, up
until the fourth quarter when the Chargers scored some points
and could have tied in the late field goal. But
then they go into Buffalo and lay an egg. Um,
how much of this do you put on a look
this is the sign that Trevor Simeon is just not
good enough at the end of the day. Yeah, I
don't even look at it that way. I mean, I
look at Trevor Simon made a couple of really bad decisions.

(15:26):
Young quarterbacks are going to do that occasionally. He made
a couple of bad decisions. But you've got to look
at a coaching staff when you decide to go for
a fake punt on your own thirty one yard line
and you leave your whole offensive line in Like the
last time I checked, there's not one offensive lineman the
plays on punt cover. None of us do. And so
I look at that and say, well, instantly, you may

(15:49):
have had what you thought was a good look, but
you completely tipped your whole you know, you completely took
the whole defense or the whole punt punt return team
that you're going to run a fake. So that was
just a bad coaching decision. Then you've got the second
leading rusher in the National Football League and C. J.
Anderson who was averaging almost five yards of carry. You
gave it to him eight times. And oh, by the way,

(16:10):
Jamal Charles on nine carries was averaging almost seven yards
of carry and you only gave it to him nine times.
So you put your quarterback in a bad position, a
young quarterback and a bad position without the opportunity to
run the play action stuff and some of the things
you've been so successful. And then defensively, you know it's
funny because coach, you're gonna get this. You'll have this

(16:30):
will happen to you. You basically said to me defensively
that we don't believe Tyrod Taylor can be to throw
in the football. He was twenty of twenty six for
over two hundred yards to ts, no interceptions. And so
you're a team that plays straight man coverage and you
played a bunch of matchup zone coverage. So essentially you
you were afraid that Tyrod Taylor in man might take

(16:51):
off and hurt your run of the football. So you
changed what you do um instead of just saying, hey,
rush lane, integrity and all these things, we're gonna go
ahead and change coverage we play, and you gave up
a bunch of crossing routes and a bunch of easy completions,
things that you haven't given up. You know, you really
haven't given up in three years. And so there's another
coaching decision that was made on your first road trip.

(17:13):
To me, that just a couple of really bad coaching
decisions offensive coaches, head coach and your defensive coaches that
really ended up costing you a game you probably should
have won. That's Martialer, three times Super Bowl champion, former
Denver bronco former Washington Redskins. What were the Redskins able
to do defensively to which you had this high powered
Raiders offense that could never get off the ground. What

(17:36):
did they do that that allowed them to really stifle
those Raiders? Yeah, I was I was shocked. I mean,
they took the plunge to the Oakland Raiders up front
right off the bat, creating pressure on Derek Carr, creating
turnovers right off the bat. But it was really just
physical domination and offensive line that you normally see get
off the ball, control the line of scrimmage. I think rushing.

(17:58):
They had thirty one yards rushing did Oakland in that
entire game. And they never did a very good job
of protecting Derek Carr, which is a real shock. And
and you know, I mean, that was taking the punch
and maybe it's the excitement, maybe it's the crowd noise.
You know, we saw that in Denver. Happened to the
Dallas Cowboys offensive line, but they completely dominated the Washing Riskins,

(18:20):
dominated a line of scrimmage from the very first snap,
and that offense could never kind of get out of
its own way. And um, and so that was basically
it for me. The front seven just completely dominated one
of the best offensive lines in football in the Oakland Raiders.
And you just see, I mean, it just goes to
show you that. Uh. And this is interesting or funny

(18:40):
to me. But now wide receiver and all the things
that we focus on, those are all completely dependent positions.
If you can't block people, and and no more, there's
never been a time where that's more apparent than right
now in this league. You can't block people, you cannot
win football games in the National Football League, no question
about it. Mark Slayrath knows that so well. I blocked
for for years with Redskins and the Broncos joint us

(19:01):
here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, look, I know the
Steelers are two and one, so it's not like there
should be any sort of panic. On the other hand,
like you lose to the Bears that you could have
lost to the Browns like this is supposed to be
a high powered offense. I like and and stink. I
know we've talked about this. The NFL guys tell us
all the time, you don't know what you have till

(19:22):
October onest anyway, right, But I would have thought they'd
be clicking more. Why aren't they clicking more? Yeah? You know,
is it the holdout of the running back bell that
didn't come into camp. Change the receiver position as you've
lost a couple of receivers. Um, you know your guest
is as good as mine. You know. I looked at

(19:43):
this Chicago game I called Chicago at Tampa Bay for Fox,
and Chicago decimated by injuries, couldn't catch the ball. I mean,
I walked away from that game, going, boy, they'll be
lucky if they win a game this year, as bad
as they've been or as bad as they are. And
I think know sometimes as an NFL player, and you
should never let this happen to you. But I think

(20:04):
you watched the film and you're you know, you're as
overconfident or you feel the same as I do. You
watch that film and you're like, there's no way they're
gonna win a game. They are that bad and they're
that decimated by injuries. Mad a bunch of also rants
playing wide receiver and those guys should all move to
dB after that game because they batted so many passes down.
It was just unreal. And I think you watched that film.

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Sometimes you become overconfident and you don't prepare the way
you need to prepare to win a football game. Remember,
those guys are being paid on the other side of
the line of scrimmage as well. Those guys have pride.
And to me, it looked like the Pittsburgh Steelers went
in there and just completely overconfident, completely ill prepared to
face a team that came out fighting and scratching. And

(20:47):
uh and that's I mean, there's no other excuse for me,
because the Chicago Bears are not a good football team
at this particular point in time. And then of course
Tampa goes up and lays an egg and Jamis throws
a couple of picks and they get lit up by
k Is Keen in Minnesota. Right, So it's like everything
you saw and you learned um when you were in Tampa,
you completely forget when you see Tampa go into Minnesota

(21:09):
that's that's that's how week to week this league is, right,
it is, It's exactly that way. And um, you know,
interestingly enough, you look at Tampa Obviously they missed that
first week, and so they had one game under the belt,
much like Miami, and so you get all that because
of the hurricane, they missed week one. They were supposed

(21:30):
to play each other, so they get that preparation. They
come off the hurricane, you know, they get all that stuff,
They get kind of in a routine. They win that
first game. You know, they're not used to preparing back
to back weeks. They had a really interesting schedule, missing
that time and being away and everybody's shipping out and
then coming back, and both of those teams look at
prepared to play in in Week three, Tampa Bay going

(21:52):
as you mentioned in Minnesota and losing, and then and
then Miami losing to New York Jets, where their head
coach basically said, you know, we got our whooked. Um
you know, he said a little bit stronger language than that,
but that was it was interesting that both teams just
were not prepared. And I think part of being an
NFL player is you have these kind of really strict schedules,

(22:14):
you're used to it and not trying to make excuses
for them. But both teams just just played absolute, absolute
garbage football compared to what they did. Um the previous week,
Mark Layer was joining us on the Doug Gottli Show
Up last thing stink is um Uh. The Seattle Seahawks.
We've talked about their offensive line, but it seems like
there's a little bit more to it than that. Is

(22:36):
it as simple as solving their offensive and it's two
road losses against two teams that people expect to be
in the playoffs. They still have the Niners, and I
don't think everybody's buying into the Rams yet. And the
Cardinals look old, so it's not like they're not going
to make the playoffs. Would be right there in the
playoff hunt. But but another slow start for the Seahawks
is this Are there issues fixable? Well? Yeah, I mean

(23:00):
are they fixable? I think the talent is an issue
with their offensive line, There's no question about that. But
at the beginning of last year, if you go back
and I called the game against San Francisco where they
kind of had a breakout in that particular game or
run on the football. But up until that point they
had been awful. And that was probably Week four. There
were three guys starting on their offensive line a year

(23:21):
ago that you looked at and you said, man, that
guy should be playing and they're starting, or they should
be backups at best. And I think they started off
that way this year again, and they count on Tom Cable,
their offensive line coach, to get those guys going. They've
got to develop a little bit of a better running
game so that they can open up the edge to
the play action stuff. If you're not running it very well,

(23:42):
people don't. I mean, they don't adhere to the fakes,
and then it's harder to get your quarterback on the
edge with you know, with the run pass options that
he presents, in the athleticism that he presents, So you know,
it's partly running backs, it's mostly offensive line partly running back.
When they get that more solidified, I think it will
open up some of the play action stuff for them.
But um, this is very much how they started last

(24:04):
year as well, and they finished strong, So I still
expect him and I think you make up The great
point is the rest of the division is such that
you feel like, hey, we're gonna have our struggles early,
We're gonna have some growing pains, but in the end,
you know we're gonna win ten or eleven games and
we'll be right there. Went in the division. You can
see him all throughout the Fox Sports one dial. Of
course you can hear him calling NFL games on Fox.

(24:25):
He's Mark Layrath. Thank thanks so much for joining this
incredible insight. Can't tell you how much we appreciate it
anytime to always get to talk to you, buddy. Fox
Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.
Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot
com and within the I Heart Radio app. Alejandro Illaneuvas
served three missions as a ranger in Afghanistan, played at

(24:49):
West Point. Comes from a military family. I think you've
seen him on the on TV ads before, on the
USA A ads. You've seen him on those. Okay, So
I ripped Ben Roethlisberger because I didn't buy the big
Ben Roethlisberger. If I could do it again, I couldn't
sleep last night. I wish I was out there at

(25:09):
midfield because I would have had my hand over the
heart because the flag. I like Ben. If you wanted
to be out there, be out there if you didn't
want to be out there, you know, if you if
you wanted to be out there and you didn't do it,
don't go back and go like, well, I wish I
would have. I just I find that to be very
phony and to fall very flat. Al hundred. Villain Wava

(25:29):
actually apologized yesterday. I want you to listen to what
he had to say. Regardless of this plan, very few
players knew that I was going to the tunnel because
I only asked a team leadership, and so because of that,
I didn't give him an opportunity to stand with me.
Um that that is the very embarrassing part on my

(25:52):
end and what transpires because yeah, so we've this is
what I tweeted yesterday. When a former soldier is made
to feel bad for saluting the national anthem, we have
reached peak ridiculousness. I've tweeted things that are good that
are bad. I wish I wouldn't have tweeted in the past,
you know, like by comment I thought at the time
was funny or whatever. Um, that sucker has fifteen thousand

(26:17):
two nine, Like that's the most of any any tweet.
And I think we're all kind of to the point
where whigs like, really, like, we made a guy who's
actually served our country in the battlefield feel bad that
he took it upon himself to walk I don't know,
ten steps further than his teammates and salute the flag.

(26:40):
Whatever happened in the Pittsburgh locker room where they get
screwed up, like the intent I'm a big what's your intentions?
And their intentions were like, look, we're all mad, We're
you kind of united. We have different ideas on how
we should protest. Let's figure something out. And he's like,
you know, I just I gotta get out there because
this is what I believe in. I don't understand somebody

(27:03):
is going to have to fill me in on how
we are allowed to have freedom of speech as long
as it agrees with what I say, Like, that's not
how it works. And if anybody has earned the right
to respect or disrespect the playing of a national anthem,
is that guy way more than the fifty two other

(27:26):
dudes in Steeler and Steeler black and gold, black and yellow.
So we have reached peak ridiculousness. And so if you're wondering,
why don't you talk more about it? That's why I'm
officially done when we're criticizing that guy and making that
guy feel like he's got to apologize for doing nothing wrong.

(27:49):
You did nothing wrong. Be sure to catch live editions
of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. The Calves are trying to release a
new album as Lebron's getting his band back together. Dwyane
Wads thirty five years old. He took a buy out
from the Chicago Bulls yesterday and according to league sources,

(28:15):
Duane Wade hasn't ruled out the idea of a return
to Miami, but apparently this was an early report. Uh,
he's going. He's going to the Cleveland Cavaliers, right, So
this is the new look Calves or what could be
the old look Calves, or could be the last look Calves. Uh.

(28:36):
And it becomes quite interesting because what is Isaiah Thomas
when he returns from his hip injury, because as Dan
told us yesterday, the Calves don't expect him back until January. Now,
it doesn't really matter in terms of June, but January
they have Derrick Rose. Remember I think about the mixed
match parts of former m v P Derrick Rose. They

(29:00):
have j R. Smith, mon Chumpert, Tristan Thompson, Kevin Love,
Jay crowder Lebron, James, Kyle Corver, Richard Jefferson, still still
trying to play right, who look a little wash us
here Channing Fry, Jeff Green. Like they got a lot
of something, Jose Calderon they signed as well, Like they
just got a lot of something. But I this is

(29:25):
definitely this is this is this feels like a behind
the music. Hey, we're getting the band back together. Like, man,
they just look old. They do not look the same.
You go here him at like the County Fair, like
the State Fair. You're like, man, why are those guys
still doing it? Are you still doing it? Are you're
still up there? Like they have they got bills to pay? Man?

(29:49):
You know, thank you Cleveland. Um, I mean, look, I'm
I'm interested in it. There's some really kind of clever pieces,
but like you can't play Isaiah Thomas and Derrick Rose
together just too little Kenya, just too little. And then

(30:10):
what do you do with j R. Smith and Kyle Korver?
And like their their problem was they couldn't guard Kevin
Durant last year, right, Like they just didn't. And you know,
if you focus on Kevin Durant, then who's gonna guard
Clay Thompson Steph Curry. Wait, I don't know how much
better they got there? Different, but I'm not sure better. Yes,

(30:32):
Romo's I thought I was telling this stor Ryan. I
thought that Dwayne Wade didn't like Lebron. I didn't they
have a problem when he left Miami? I thought that
was there was a big problem with him, like when
Lebron left, like there their boys, their boys. I think
Dwayne Wade's problem and this is what they you know,
they made it out to be. Hey, pat Riley used
Dwayne Wade to take less money to get Lebron, and

(30:54):
then and then last summer wouldn't pay him so that
they could go out and get Hassan, keep Hassan Whiteside, right,
and they still you know, they offered him like eight
million dollars less and the Bulls overpaid him to come
home like that would somehow, Uh figures, you know, fix things.
You have music. So as long as Lebron is on

(31:14):
that team, are the Calves still the best team in
the East. Um, I think so, but I don't know so. Like,
I actually think the East is pretty competitive now. Like
Boston remembers eleven new players, that's a lot, that's a lot.
You still have the Wizards, who are right? Who are
I think in the conversation, I think everybody wants to

(31:34):
know what becomes of the Heat, whereas the Heat suddenly
got better at the end of the season and nearly
made the playoffs. Then you got Milwaukee, who doesn't seem
to be far off right. They have a burgeoning superstar
and their own rights, but they're missing some stuff. Yeah,
the Calves are still Remember the Calves didn't have the
best record in the East last year, and that was
with Kyrie Irving. And now you have Dwayne Way who's

(31:59):
still good but not nearly Dwyane Wade of old. And
the big challenge to Dwyane Wade is like, are you
gonna be happy taking a tertiary or even lower role? Like,
I don't know how all these pieces fit together at all.
They're just a bunch of pieces. It's a weird team.

(32:21):
Kevin Love is a good player, but how does Kevin
Love fit there? If you have to play him, you
got to play him at power forward because you play center,
you have no rim protection. You play Tristan you have
rim protection and a rebounder, but a non score. Okay.
But then if you play those two, there's your kind
of rebounding. Or you take Kevin Love out and you
play Lebron at the power forward. Okay, and now you

(32:44):
can play a bunch of guards. But Dwyane Wade is
not a great three point She's not even a good
three point shooter. Isaiah Thomas has to have the ball
in his hands. I don't I don't love it. I
don't love it. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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(33:05):
Heart Radio app. Denver Broncos are two in one of
the season. They're linebackers. Brandon Marshall, he's kind of to
spend some time with this year. On a Tuesday on
The Doug Olip Show, Brandon, how are you? I'm good?
How about this? Good man? So look last year, uh,
you took a knee. First half the year you took
a knee, and there there were some a lot of
people that didn't like it. What was why did you

(33:25):
take a knee. I took it. I took a knee because, um,
you know, of the rational equalities, inequalities. I'm sorry, UM,
you know that that's going on in this world, and
you know, um a lot of the you know, the
shootings that happened, you know last year, and uh you know,
nothing was happening, um as far as justice. So that's

(33:48):
that's why I took it. Okay. So then by mid season,
you know, you had open conversations I believe, right with
the head of police, with other community leaders. That is
that one of the reasons that you decided to no
longer do it? He Um, well, I had a conversation
with the police chief, the Demo police chief, and um,

(34:09):
you know he I got his point of view, you know,
and he got my point of view and allow a
lot of people feel and you know he actually, um well,
the department actually decided to change their use of force policy.
So I took that as a win. Um. You know,
I take that as you know, I had a hand
in that. Um. So you know, after that, you know,
I figured, well, I got my point across. You know, Um,

(34:33):
I don't you know, my feelings haven't changed. I got
my point across. What Um, it's not necessarily, It's not
necessary for me to need anymore. Okay. So then, um,
so then this weekend, what was it like for you
emotionally mentally going into the game in Buffalo with what
the President said Friday and suddenly reinvigorated conversation about players

(34:54):
kneeling and what you guys should do. Yeah, I mean,
I mean, you know a lot of people decided to
do it. I think you have thirty two people on
my team do it. You know, a lot of people
came up to me and, um, you know, I said
they were gonna do it, and and asked if I
if I was going to do it, and I said, look,
I'm down. I'd have been hit before, so I'm definitely
down to do it. But you know, I think a

(35:15):
lot of people took it personally. Um, A lot of
us took it very personal. You know, people that never
even thought about kneeling before it took it personal. So, um,
that's why you see the outcome that happened on Sunday. Okay,
So what was this? I guess the question becomes as
somebody who had like, look, you had a reason and
you wanted to start a conversation and you end up
getting something out of that conversation. Last year, Um, are

(35:37):
you okay with people kneeling for all sits sorts of
because it felt like people kneeling an owner's locking arms,
Like this was all more of a protest of what
the president said than what the actual protest was originally about.
Are you okay with that? You? You? Is that something
that that sits okay with you? I'm okay. Well, you know,
I'm okay with it because you know, I said, you

(36:00):
know what, what what the President said was was extremely
disrespectful and rough with a lot of feathers. So of
course people are gonna, um, you know, I guess we're bail.
You know, instead of instead of getting in line, people
are gonna go to the the opposite way. So you know,
I'm okay with it. You know, I definitely don't want
the original message to get lost. And you know what
the the president said, Um, but you know, I'm definitely

(36:24):
okay with it. But you know, it's interesting because like
look what he said. We're things that were said to
you last year, weren't they. I mean, these are things
that that people and right, I mean, this is something
that you personally experienced, which I think other people were
surprised by. But you know, like I'm sure part of
you had to be like, yeah, this is what there are.
There's a good there's a portion of the population that
thinks exactly what the presidents saying. Absolutely, it's it's it's

(36:47):
definitely a portion of that population that agrees with him.
You know. A couple of teammates came up to me
and tell me about the comments that they had, and
then I guess that social media's and stuff like that,
but I was like, you know, I'm and then I'm like, yeah,
that's this is nothing compared to what I was getting
last year. You know, last year was just me by myself,
so it was almost like target practice. You know. Anybody

(37:08):
that wanted to say something said it. Um. You know,
I received a lot of you know, hate mail, so
you know, it's it's it was definitely worth last year.
Do you put any part of the loss on this
on on the protest as a distraction, Ah, there's no way.
There's no way. Um, at the end of day, with professionals, um,

(37:30):
just like you know, we could talk about whatever we
want to talk about in the locker room or on
the sideline and then get ready to play. That's that's
what we do. So you know this has nothing to
do with our loss, had nothing with the protests. Um.
You know, we just took a leave before the anthem,
I mean before the anthem. Um. So as we got up,
it was it was football time. But um, you know
we just the turnovers and apparently has just killed us. Yeah.

(37:52):
I mean even your head coach Fans Joseph even said,
you know, there were some some issues both sides of
the football in terms of preparation, terms of execution. Now
you've kind of gone back through through it. Um, what's
what's your biggest takeaway in the loss to the Buffalo Bills. Yeah,
we had some untimely penalties and untimely uh turnovers. Um,

(38:15):
that didn't help our cars at all. Um. You know,
you know we've we've had the best past defense over
the past couple of years. So you know, to let
the quarterback on us and is not acceptable. Um. You
know they did a good job you know in in
you know running zone zone and and putting us in

(38:36):
uh or you know running boots. You know, they ran
a lot of boots, um, which they didn't show on film.
But you know, we should have known that they would,
um try to get tied right out of the pocket,
as mobile as he is, as as athletic as he is.
So you know it was some things that you know,
we we we definitely need to clean up. Um. You know,
we can learn a lot from this loss. But UM,

(39:00):
you know, I think it definitely had nothing to do
with the protests. All right. So now you have Oakland
coming in. They're stinging off a road loss. They lost
in d C on Sunday night. Um, and you guys
have been in the defense, as you point out, been
incredible at home. But but Derek Carr is very very different, right,
He's not Tyrode. They're not running boots with him. What
were the what can you take from what the Redskins

(39:22):
were able to do that you guys can replicate? Uh,
you know, I didn't even really watch that whole game yet.
I just I saw the very end of it, um
when I came on Sunday night, and I just saw,
you know, at that point they needed to pass the wall.
But I mean, the red Skins are shut them down.
Just looking at the numbers, I saw that that they
just shut them down. Man, they played you know, sound defense,

(39:45):
Um to hold them too. I'm not even sure how
many yards they had, if they had, if they even
had a hundred. Um for the Redskins to do that,
it was it was, Uh, it was spectacular. So uh,
you know we can learn something from that tape. I
think first and foremost, you got to stop the run
with that at that offensive line. And you know, obviously
marshan and and I'm gonna have you great threat to

(40:05):
add white out, you know, Amri and And and micro Crabtree.
So we got a handful of this week. Yeah, Derek
carthrew for one eight team. Marshawn Lynch was their leading
Russia with eighteen yards. They had thirty two yards uh total. Yeah,
they had just over a hundred yards about a d
thirty yards of total offense. That's that's all I have.
That That's crazy considering how they play that offensive line,

(40:27):
that quarterback amazing. Yeah, the Redskins ever doing amazing. Yeah.
Brandon Marshall joining us on on the Doug Gotlip Show.
What about Vance Joseph? How different is it? You have
a rookie head coach, but a guy that seems to
be um saw some of the keeps comments about how
he has his back and he's a guy that keeps
it real. What's it been like in terms of regime

(40:48):
change and how this team is reacted to it. M
Uh Key was right rans to keep it real with you.
You know. He came in and and he classic, um
the word truth around around the building, you know. Um.
He's he's a big proponent on on on keeping it real,
not telling the truth, you know, and that's what we

(41:11):
do man. And and honestly, I mean I really love
um the fact that vances our head coach. Man. He's
a great, great coach. Uh. He demands the best out
of us, but he's a players coaches as well. So
to have him, to have him there, um, you know,
and he definitely understands us, you know, our bodies too,
so you know, whenever we need some breaks, you know,

(41:33):
he'll give us that. So um, you know, and he's passionate, man,
He's extremely passionate, you know what. So so to have him, Um,
that's a head coach man, It's it's great. Uh. What
was that dog in the background, Yeah, it's my dog
kind of dog English bulldog, English bulldog. What's singlish? Bulldog's name?

(41:55):
Her name is Lola. She store? She got a store
like crazy? He doesn't she? Oh yeah, yes, she's snor
she's snort last night. Sorry my door bell ranked So
she's going crazy right now? Oh yeah, she's very very vicious,
you know, like a foot tall put incredibly vicious. Hey, um,
you got a night of comedy coming up in October,
right October Comedy Works, and it's it's part of your

(42:19):
leadership program. The proceeds benefit the leadership program, doesn't it.
I'm sorry, I was talking about your night of comedy
that's coming up. Now. Are you getting on stage? Are you?
Are you doing seven minutes of comedy? I wish I should.
I wish I was. I'm sorry. I wish I was
that funny, but uh, I'm definitely not. But you know,

(42:43):
I'm gonna have Alex Thomas. Uh. You know, he's a
hilarious comedian. She's gonna headline the show, and we're gonna
have some uh some other funny guys come through, and
it's gonna be a great night. All right. That's uh,
that's October three at Comedy Works at South at the
Landmark at uh Landmark Place. Hey, listen, uh, you really
you need what's the guy's name, the dog trainer, the

(43:05):
Caesar Shavin. Do we need to see Caesar Shavi, Seesar Milan?
Do we need to sit and seear Milan over there
the dog guy? Right? Absolutely not, Man, I gotta handle
on the set. You know, she's just going crazy because
somebody's at the door. I like, I like English bulldogs.
A great deal and we'll look. Best of luck this weekend.
You got this crazy start with four or five at home.

(43:25):
Get to bye week after this week. Good luck instraders,
and thanks for joining us. All right, it's Brandon Marshall
joining us
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