November 3, 2017 • 43 mins
There's a certain trait players need to be stars in the NBA. Doug tells you what that is and why he's worried Lakers PG Lonzo Ball might not have it. He also compares the NFL to Justin Bieber and explains why things could be better for America's most popular sport. Plus, NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the show to provide the latest insight on Cowboys RB Ezekiel Elliott's suspension.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America. Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio, coming to you live and direct from
the beautiful city of Los Angeles. Hopefully you are well
wherever you're heading to oppaghetti to a football basketball game
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this weekend of your choosing. I won't be attending Bedlam
Oklahoma Oklahoma State, but we'll be watching with some of
my alumni brethren at my abode, and we'll be watching
with bated breath. Alright, that's as many big words I
can say that have bees in it as possible. Getting
ready for they called it Bedroom Oklahoma, Oklahoma State. Give
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you my thoughts on Ezekie Elliott who It's on again.
It's off again. It's on again, It's off again. It's
so incredibly confusing, right, Like, they shouldn't They shouldn't announce
what the actual legally is it us. They shouldn't do it.
They should just go, Hey, the court ruled something, it
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means he's playing. The court ruled something, it means he's
not playing. Because all of us are thoroughly confused as
to what exactly is taking place within the legal process.
But I will tell you the one huge thing I
like about how Zeke is approaching this upcoming. Plus we'll
talk about Deshaun Watson and why the Texans have chosen
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to sign two quarterbacks, neither of whom her name, Colin
Kaepernick Jason Lock came forth from CBS Sports is going
to join us upcoming. All right, let me get to
what I want to get to after. There's two NBA
games last night, both are goods Um Warriors beat the
Spurs and San Antonio and the Trailblazers came from behind
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and beat the Lakers in Portland. And then of course
we also had Todd Bowls. New York Jets continued Todd
Bowls continue to make a run, aad coach of the Year,
maybe coach of the decade. A Jets roster which many
people believe was put together to lose, continues to find
ways to win games. Some of it was the turnovers,
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the fumbles from Buffalo, but a lot of it is, Hey,
a blind man can watch you at Jets team and say,
those guys play really really hard, really really hard, and
the defense was outstand when they saw sack Tyrod Taylor
seven times seven it's a lot. But after that, if
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you would have flipped over to T n T, you
watch the Portland Trailblazers on a Damian Lillard three that
went through the net with point seven seconds remaining, came
from behind and beat the beat the the l A Lakers.
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Now they hopped out to The game was probably one
in the first quarter when the Trailblazers outscored the Lakers,
but the Lakers had regained the lead in the fourth quarter,
and the Blazers end up getting the win, Lillard being Lillard,
But the story of the game was what the hell
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happened Lonzo Ball? He played twenty eight minutes. He did
have a plus ten, which is in plus minus. The
Lakers were ten points better with him on the floor.
But he was oh of two and oh one for three.
He had just four assists, two blocks, one turn over,
one steel, and three rebounds. And so, while I will
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start by saying, hey, he's just nineteen years old, right,
and I will admit that he has never really played
in any way close to the style in which he
has to play to be successful. While many people have said, hey, look,
his dad shielded him from the ills of au like
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all right, Alonzo is a great kid. I have friends
in that organization, I have friends on that coaching staff.
They all said he's a great kid. What happened last
night is confounding. Confounding. It's not that he didn't take
or make shots. It's not that he didn't have that
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many assists. It's that he kind of didn't try. But
it wasn't the wilful disdain that Kobe had once upon
a time when he wasn't surrounded by good enough players
and he chose against the Phoenix Suns in the playoffs too, Hey,
you do what you want to know me, I find
I'm not gonna shoot no, no, no, no no. It
was almost like the lacking of that alpha jeene it
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takes to be a star. Here's Luke Walton, his head coach.
I thought he was a little too passive tonight, um,
and I think that it will continue to be. You know,
It's what I always say that the hardest thing for
young players is the consistency when you just play so
many games. He's so unselfish, you know that sometimes as
the game's going, you know, we we wanted to be
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more more aggressive with not shooting the ball, but just
more aggressive with attacking the defenses, and I feel like
he tonight was one of those nights where, uh, you know,
he was more passive with it, uh than looking to
really attack them. It's funny. I actually texted a buddy
of mine who's on that staff, and I said, why
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is THO so passive? But it it auto corrected into
why so so passive? And then I tried it again.
He was like, what, who's so passive? So so? And
I was like, anyway, and he's like, we don't know.
We have only encouraged him to attack, attack, attack, first
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six seconds of the shot clock, last six seconds of
the shot clock, Go make a play now. Look, there's
some limitations to him athletically, one because he's nineteen two,
because he's not a not a blur. There's limitations to
what he can do scoring wise because he does struggle
at times to shoot, struggles to shoot going right, because
he shoots up the left side of his face. Um,
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there's there's parts to his finishing package which is not perfect.
And he's surrounded in many at many points in time
by young teammates. Larry Nance Jr. Got hurt. That meant
Kyle Kuzma who's their best player last night Ian brook Lopez.
So you've got Kyle Kuzma, You've got Brandon Ingram, Like
those are three first or second year players on the
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floor at the most important time in games. But I
was I was driving, I was listening to Colin Cowherd
about an hour and a half, two hours ago. It's like, well,
don't worry, Zo is still gonna be a star, Like
like there's some tangible aspects that are missing body speed, athleticism, strength,
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jump shot on the right part of his body, Like
those things can be adjusted and can as he develops
and having man muscles that can and he's learning. He's
being coached for the first time. He's never played pick
and roll basketball. He's always been taught to just pass
it ahead. But completely changing the mentality of who you
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are when you're not a verbal leader, asking you to
be a leader of men, boy, I'm I'm not as convinced.
And it's weird. You can really like somebody, you can
appreciate them, and and there will be people who forever
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say like, well, like you would go games where you'd
only be oh of two. I was like, yeah, I
would one because I couldn't shoot two. I would be
taken out of eye shot. But the point would be
I would try and make plays for other people. He
kind of didn't. He just tried to get rid of
it as quickly as he could. And the one thing
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that all of these stars, and they've had Steve Nash
work with him, and Steve Nash is like, hey, look,
when I was first in the league, I would go
in there and I'd always try and pass. And it's
not even about going in there, it's about just getting
rid of the ball too quickly. You can be selfish
while being unselfish. Unselfish is traditionally trying to get assists.
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You can be selfish and trying to create those assists.
He doesn't have that. And it's funny that all of
us who know who a Lonzo Ball really is and
try to tell people, I look. Part of this is
the fact that we judge him based upon LaVar and
the two kind of work together. LaVar is the bragger,
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LaVar is out front, LaVar is the big personality A
Lonzo is not. And though that works in terms of
their working relationship together and their father's son relationship, it
doesn't necessarily work if you're going to be the star
point guard of the l A Lakers. Your dad can't
speak for you, Your dad can't want it for you.
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You kind of want it yourself. And I don't know
if he has that in him. Things like that don't
appear and then disappear and then reappear all at the
same time. So while we we argue back and forth
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about the shooting the ball on the wrong side of
his face and whether or not ultimately he'll become a
good enough shooter score, but we haven't talked enough about
is does he really want or understand what it takes
to be great in the n b A which is
not just the tangible skills, but an intangible quality to
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the give me the ball, let's go. I mean, look,
Damian Lillard easily one of the five most over rated,
overly highly over high, overly highly regarded players in the NBA.
He actually watched him, gets star calls, really only likes
to go left, not a great finisher, he doesn't play
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particularly good defense. Now he's a big time, big time shooter,
shot maker, and he's a good athlete when he gets
a step and he's in transition. He's a score who's
learned to be an NBA point guard, but he's not
like a top five point guard in the NBA. He
just you you can't be a non defender and avoid
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any sort of desire to play defense. Like Steph is
not a good on ball defender, but he's really active
off the basketball and he makes plus he makes up
for it for the fact that he's a better pastor
than Lillard. He's a better shooter than Lillard, and he
has a better finishing package than Lillard. Lillard better better
pure athlete like I I like Damian little. The difference though,
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is that Damian Lillard, as he said in the broadcast
night before or missed it that night, took the same shot,
won the game. Has that whatever that gene is that
some of us have and some of us don't like that.
That's it's part. We'll get to the Ezekiel Elliott thing.
But I'm almost convinced that, like whether it's sexual AsSalt,
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sexual harassment, domestic violence, like I just kind of think
a lot of this is you can have therapy for
some of this, but I just I don't have that
in me. I don't have it in me to ever
lay a hand on a woman. I don't have any
in me to ever violate a woman. I just don't,
and I think so oftentimes it's really hard for those
of us who don't have it in us to to
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understand people that do and how they could treat people
this way. And and the argument that that Zeke is
trying to make his like look this is important to
me because I don't have it in me. I don't
know if he does, but I kind of think that's
the same thing with Damian Lillard as supposed to long
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Zo ball. I have no doubt that Lonzo will become
a better score that will become a better shooter, that
have become a better finisher, that his body will be better,
will be at least slightly more athletic. I do wonder
if he has the gene the f you, I'm going
to win this game, come hell or high water geen
that Lillard absolutely has. Be sure to catch live editions
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of The Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at three pm
Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. It's welcome in Jason lock Campour, who
joins us from CBS Sports to some wild times in
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start with the Deshaun Watson news. Obviously, everybody in the
NFL really likes the kid. Uh, players, coaches, fans. He
goes down toward a c l and Tom Savage becomes
their star in quarterback. Uh. What's your reaction though, to
the pickups they've made, um after you know, in terms
of backup quarterbacks and the fact that Colin Kaepernick hasn't
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been contacted. Yeah, I mean you're you know, to your
larger point, it's it's just another sort of sad set
of circumstances in the year in which, um, that's kind
of the year of the injury of the star player
unfortunately and doesn't really get showing any signs of slowing down.
And this kid is universally liked and admired for what
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he's done and an incredibly short period of time on
the field, but for for the kind of person he
has shown himself to be during that same period of time. Um,
so it's a devastating loss for them. I that's going
to affect that team, I think, sort of ornamental and
a spiritual level as well, where you've got to be
sitting there now saying, I mean we lose lot and
merciless like two weeks ago, boom boom, and now people,
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we're losing our quarterback and what what's next? And you've
got the McNair's stuff hanging over them still. Also, that's
a tough set of circumstances to Bill O'Brien as to
who they signed. I mean, it's the predictable story. Oh,
guy's got to tie to the system, and they only
played for the guy played for the coach in college
and you know he was there four years ago or whatever.
So I mean it it just kind of is what
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it is. No, I mean that look, that stuff all
makes that, that stuff all makes sense. But the offense
that they've been successful with is one to which you
would think Kaepernick could be successful. I would agree with you.
I would agree with you. But that was never a
consideration there. I mean, there was, um, not a phone call,
not an exploratory anything between them and Colin Kaepernick. I
mean it seemed like, you know, look, the mcbloid stuff
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got out in like thirty seconds, you know what I mean,
Like it was they were not even going to create
a scenario where any sort of Colin Kaepernick questions got
any significant period of time to percolate. I mean, it
was like the call is out, the mcglowin like immediately,
like Bam, we got one system guy there, and then well,
we probably still need another one because we don't have
me by on a practice spot. So let's just o
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get T J. Yates to the next day. So I
mean they never even created a circumstance where you could
seriously mullet or even you know, question them about for
any period of time because it was already like system guys,
system guy, and we're done nothing to see here. But yeah,
I mean could would. Well it'll be very interesting to
see what they have to do now they can't run
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the exact same offense with Watson. You could have run
closer to that offense with Kaepernick. Um, And the deal
with Savage was um weequa he got destroyed. Now that
was Jacksonville and they're destroying a lot of people. But
they also traded their left tackle and they're not going
to have both back no matter which one of these play.
And he's not gonna be able to move to the pocket.
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He's not gonna be able to save plays with his feet,
and he's not gonna be able to extend plays with
his feet. So does this re expose some of their
original protection issues that had something to do with the
change to Watson so soon? In the first place, let's
go to last night where the surprise. These are two
of the most surprising teams in the NFL, right, I
mean like Buffalo five and two. Uh into the Jets
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who everyone thought they were tanking, and Todd Bowles has
been playing incredibly hard. Obviously the Bills had a bunch
of turnovers and that that that's the real story of
the game. But uh, I don't know, I'm you know, like, look,
Bowls was incredibly impressive as ad coordinator in Arizona. Then
in his first year he was great. Then last year
he should have been fired. Now this year he's been
surprisingly good. What's the this This secures his future? Correct? Well,
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we got the second half to go here and and
we'll see. Um, they've had an issue of kind of
losing games late, of not being able to put people
away and making some critical errors, whether it was the
interception in the Miami game or the series of second
half fumbles in the Atlantic game where they had them
dead the rights. And then I go back to the
New England game as well and say, boy, I kind
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of thought they were the better team for at least
three quarters, but they had a call go against them,
and then it's snowballed and they couldn't win the fourth quarter. Um,
they're playing and hard. You can't dispute that. I think
they have more talent than they're giving credit for it.
And at the end of the season, ownership is going
to have to make a decision based on how they
finished about where they're going. Is this staff going to
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be the right staff to incubate and cultivate whichever quarterback
they end up with offseason, most likely a rookie, but
not you know, it's not impossible that it's Kirk Cousins
or somebody like that as well. It's it's not going
to be Josh McCown for the great job that he's doing.
I mean, at agety eight, this is you know, probably
his last hurrahs a long term starter, So you know,
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We'll have to see how the second half goes for
for Todd Bowls. But for a team that everybody expected
to roll over and die, they've done anything but that weekend,
week out, and even the games they've lost have been
sort of errors of mental errors or whatever. But not
any any issues with effort. That that's for darn Shore.
They're they're fighting um the bills. You know, look, their
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KEMP would have been pretty easy. Run the said well,
easy to stipulate, not easy to do. Run the football well.
They play lights out the defense, and they don't turn
the ball over and while creating turnovers, well, last night
they couldn't create anything. Ever. Last night, you know that
Tyrod Taylor came to the year with two giveaways all season,
and you know, they ended up putting balls on the
ground and not helping him out and turning it over
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in weird spots, and they couldn't run the ball a lick.
So uh, it all kind of worked against It was
a short week. I think they may have believed there
clipping a little bit. I think they may have taken
the Jets a little bit lightly, and they looked like
sort of a fatigue team. I think we'll see the
best of them down the stretch. What does the what
do the New England Patriots trading away Jimmy Garoppolo, What
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does that say about the collective future of Belichick and Brady.
I don't know that it says anything. They were all
they always had to trade him. I mean, I feel
like I was the only person than like me and
Pete Prisco were like. He will never be there in
a million years and eighteen. I don't care what anybody
else reports, and I don't care what Bill Belichick whispers.
They are never paying their back more than Tom Brady.
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They are never going to franchise this kid and keep them.
And the only way to keep them would have been
the franchise. So I mean, I'm still stunned they didn't
trade them before the draft when I when I think,
hadn't they really held uh auction, you know, sometime in
mid April. Certainly they're getting more than just the thirty
third overall pick, and that's really the best case scenario
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now is and I don't I don't think San Francisco
is going to get the first overall pick once they
left Garoppolo play and they maybe win a couple of games,
so but the best case for Belichick is thirty third
overall he with with the brown sitting there with with
three second round picks, had they really squeezed them and
really engaged, I can't I can't imagine that they. No
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one in this league believe they couldn't have got more
than a two. People are stunned that in the end,
that's all it took. But I think they misplayed the
situation and they miscalculated. I don't think it has anything
I don't. I mean, look, Brady, as long he plays
like this, he's going nowhere and he's not going to
fall off a cliff And and Tom Brady is not
on his last contract with the New England Patriots get
an extension this offseason just to watch, and Polichick is
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not going anywhere anytime soon. But they couldn't afford to
keep this kid. The mythology had gotten to the point
where he was going, They're going to have the franchise
and to keep them, and that never was gonna make
any sense for them. Look at all the holes they
have on that roster. How are you gonna have forty
million dollars in two quarterbacks on one of them playing
at once? You can't. Yeah, and you never could, which
baffled me is to why everything you read and heard
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and saw anywhere was just like no grew up at
the one untouchable. Just dude traded Richard Smoret. In his crime,
he shocked the world by trading Jamie Collins a year ago.
He traded Chandler Jones six months before that, But a
backup quarterback who never sees the field, was the one
member of the Patriots dynasty who he would never trade
under any circumstances. Okay, Jason Lacampford joining a CBS NFL insider. Okay,
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So I'm looking at the Cleveland Cincinnati thing, and obviously
Cleveland looks really, really bad. But there's two things that
jump out at me. The first thing is if if
the Bengals and Browns really wanted to consummate this trade,
and no one else was trying to trade for a J.
McCarron at the time, and they both had some sort
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of email saying that they wanted to make this trade,
why is the NFL holding up a trade of two
teams that want to get this thing done. Well, if
you really want to get things done, it's really really
simple and Sassy Brown has made plenty of tradescluding some
around the deadline last year, and they've made sounds plenty
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of maneuvers in years past when you have to cut
fifty thirty players at once at the trade, at the
at the waiver deadline to get down the fifty three right,
and there's certain things you have to do to be
compliance from a from a from a lead start of
the league year cap standpoint, there's a lot of deadlines
and things you have to do. And Sacy Brown's assistant,
Chris Cooper, worked for years at the NFL Management Council,
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where that's where all these rules come from. Then you're
gonna tell me if they really wanted to make the
trade that no one in the front office would have called.
I mean, if if anyone had just called the Management
Council and say, hey we've we may we may have
forgotten to see see you on this email, or hey
we sent our paperwork to the Bengals, but these were
the terms, and if you have something with them saying
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it's the same terms, I just want to let you
know we got a trade. Like so there's no follow
up email and there's no follow up phone call. So
I would say, it's an assumption to assume they really
wanted to make that. Okay, so that's a consummated trade.
So that that's my second question. Is it that the
Browns management privately like dude, second and the third for
a guy we don't really HU was pushing for this
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and ownership is pushing forward, but we don't really want
to get this thing done. Did they sabotage it? There
are definitely coaches in Cleveland who believe that, and there
are definitely executives around the league. The more they just
considered it, just think this through and how easy it
is to consummated trade at three fifty five or not.
And look, there was not a flurry of activity right
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at the end. So it's not like the Baseball trade
deadline where you couldn't get anybody on the phone at
the management council because there are twelve trades all coming
through it the last second. I mean, the Benjamin thing
happened towards the end, and this you could have got
plenty of people on the phone and no problem saying okay, okay,
hold we're gonna call the Bengals too and just make
sure we're all good here, or hold let me make
sure this matches with the email. So yeah, there's plenty
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of people who feel like that. At the end of
the day, the front officers just didn't want to make
the trade. And so what there's repercustions to that too,
because I mean this is probably sounds unequated and cheesy,
but it's considered a legal gentleman and often all you
have is your word as things are fast and furious,
and that's with agents and negotiations, and that's with teams
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in negotiations. And I can tell you the Bengals are
livid um and people on that out front office are livid,
and and that building was going to blow up no
matter what. But the knives are really out now. It's
gonna be an interesting last half of the year. Just
when you think it can't get any lower for the Browns, boy,
they always show you that. No, don't say a lot shark.
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We we got you know, we can do better than that.
The yeah that was I'm not sure anybody can have
a hold my beer moment over what the Browns pulled
off this week. Goes have lost three in a row,
and brock Osweiler for at least this period of time
gets his job back. How long is it leaves for
Brock Not long, not long until as soon as they
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deemed Packton Lynch, you know, healthy enough to go, which
I suspected sooner rather than later. This is very much
a cable setting. You know, hold my spot here for
a little bit by us sometime. Maybe go get you know,
maybe maybe go sacrifice yourself to the football gods. And
Jim Sports is front seven over there in Philadelphia. And
then we'll see what we have with this former first
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round pick in the second half of the year and
figure out if we if we're okay at quarterback. Um,
if you know we're we need to go the route
they went with Peyton Manning, which in this case would
be Drew Brees. Um, they're gonna have to find out
about Paxton Lynch, and they'll start finding out pretty soon.
Jason great stuff. Go to CBS sports dot com, follow
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I Heart Radio app. Can't you I just all get
together and decide that the guy's gonna play football the
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rest of you or not. Can't we just can we
just decide that? But I'll tell you something that I
do respect. I don't respect men that hit women. I know, like,
what's the matter with you? Um? On the other hand, like,
I know ray Rice hard one because I've gotten to
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know ray Rice, and I do think ray Rice was
kind of a phony before he did this. Guy had
to run in with ray Rice to where I was like,
what is up with ray Rice? To where I felt
like he was not terribly stable in terms of how
he was viewing the world. And having known him since
he's gone through therapy become a spokesperson against domestic violence.
I know that a lot. To a lot of you,
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You're like, what the only reason is doing that is
because of the video? And he's trying to get back
in the NFL. Like he's not getting back in the
NFL and he's still still out there doing these good deeds.
I tend to like ray Rice, So this is a
hard one. I don't like dude dudes that hit women.
I just like, what's the matter with you? So I
know I'm a hypocrite in that because I've met Ray
Rice and got to know him and really and find
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him to be a guy who's taken on a lot
of abuse, abuse that he's earned from the media and
from the public, and handled it in a way in
which I don't know if there's any other way to
handle just go get therapy and try and tell people, Hey,
don't do what I've done. Be better than me. But
this is what I agreed with about Tom Brady. This
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is what I agree with as far as Ezekie Elliott, thanks.
I've never understood the idea of accepting a punishment if
you didn't think you did anything wrong, right, and you
didn't think you did anything wrong, what are you accept
from the punishment for well? I was and and you know,
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I understand that if you're psychologically beaten by you know,
psychologically beating like you're in a you're in a war camp.
And I've just seen these things in movies where they
get you to confess to something because they've you haven't
had sleep, and you haven't had water, and you're being
tortured and exhausted. You admit you'll say anything just for
the torture to stop. But in the real world, we're
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not torturing Ezekiel Elliott. He could accept the four game suspension,
he would survive the six game suspension. He would survive this.
He would still have an NFL career. He would be
able to put like to anybody who thinks that there's
not a second life for guys based upon town, I
give you Alex Rodriguez, Right, dude, Alex Rodriguez didn't test.
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What didn't it wasn't popped for steroids once he was
popped for steroids twice. He was hated before he ever
got popped for steroids. Hated because how how he was
just a roboty just not human. Plus the huge contract,
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the fact that teams won when he laughed, and he
goes to the Yankees after being young and stupid with
the Rangers, in which he wasn't young and stupid. He
pretended like he didn't know when he went down to
the dr and got some bolet right then he tells
positive again, Hey dude, a rod in spite of the
fact that the Yankees did not want him around wasn't
he on TV the last couple of weeks? Didn't he
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a TV star? Now? Hasn't he remade himself? Any dayton
j Lo doesn't even see doesn't he seem like he's
got the world by the what's the expression by the
short hairs? Right like there is a two and a
three point oh. This is a long life for dudes,
and especially for Zeki Elliott. This is bigger than a suspension,
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is bigger than football. It's them trying to make me something.
I'm not not an abuser. It's not who I am.
This is my name, this is my reputation. That's something
I have to live with beyond football every day. It's
worth fighting for. I'm not an abuser. That's what he said.
You know what, I don't know if he did it.
I don't know if he did it. I can tell
you that the police didn't feel like there was good
enough evidence to even to to go forward and charge him.
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That doesn't mean he didn't do it. I read her account,
I read some of the text messages, some of the
other stuff going on, and I I tend to have
a great deal of doubt. But I'll tell you what,
if I didn't do it, you ain't. Nothing in the
world knows suspension the world. No court in the world
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is gonna tell me that I did it, especially like
this because I like, I think most of the world says,
you either have the gene or you don't have the gene.
You could lay a hand on a woman, and Zeke's
like an amy. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at three p m.
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Heart Radio app. When I say Justin Bieber, now, what
do you think of him, John Ramos, I think he's
kind of like been passed by, passed by. Okay, but
what about you ry music? Too much, fame too early,
too much fame too early? Uh? What has he been
a Has he been a turd? The answer is yes.
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If you had millions and millions of dollars and millions
and millions of followers when you were in your teens,
and you were good looking, and you were in a
place like Los Angeles where everybody kissed up to you,
you would probably have been at least partially a turd too. Um.
Matter of fact, if you go back to two thousand ten,
he made fifty three million dollars fifty three in a
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in a twelve month period. The crazy thing about Justin
Bieber is his music, or at least the music that's
currently being played on the radio whenever it was recorded right,
Friends and Sorry, and the album is Purpose is really outstanding.
It's really really good stuff. It's the best stuff he's
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ever done. He's back Whistlina Gomez. He seems to be stable,
but in many ways I think Ramos's view of him
is kind of over. Justin Bieber is kind of a
too much, too soon. He's twenty three years old, like
his rise was an improbable story. He's a young, good
looking kid who comes from Canada, comes to the States
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and just crush his life. He can sing, he can dance,
he can rap. I don't know if he can act.
He's acting like a jerk for a long time. And
some of it is self inflicted, right, obviously excess into
drinking and probably ugs. We don't know enough about it.
But he's he's supposedly stepping away from music to get
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his life together. It's reasonable to conceive that a lot
of his own issues are self inflicted, much like the
NFL's the humorists of Hey, we're gonna put our game
on Sunday up against the World Series. Not because not
because we couldn't previously, but because we can now we
can squash the NFL. We're gonna have Thursday night football.
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Why because we can make more money doing it. I
know it kind of waters down the product. I know
it makes fantasy football hard. I know it it's too
short of prep time for some of these teams, so
the game isn't that good. But I know there's just
a proliferation of NFL on TV. But it makes a
lot of money. Pride comes before the fall. They could
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have admitted that football caused brain injury a long time ago.
They could have had just addressed the helmet situation, they
hitting situation a long time. They didn't because they're making
lots and lots and lots of money. But look, with
all of these issues, protests, CT, injuries to your best players,
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proliferation of the NFL on TV, the ratings are still
really good. Still ratings, King still rakes it in. You
still left Tom Brady still gonna end up with the
Dallas Cowboys being in the playoffs, the Seattle Seahawks being
the playoffs probably the l A Rams and the playoffs.
You won't have the jets of the Giants, but you
get the Patriots, you get most of the big markets,
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you get most of the big names. You'll get the Steelers.
You're gonna get big name franchise. You're gonna get huge numbers.
Just like even though many of us have a negative
view of Justin Bieber, wildly crazy, crazily successful. Uh he
had number ones and back to back on both English
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and Spanish language top one hundreds this past summer. Right
plus he's on was It David Guetta as how do
you say his last name to you? He's on that
was Ghetta Ghetta David Ghetta. My son loves that song.
He's on a bunch of other songs on the song
with d DJ Khalid as well. Like Justin Bieber actually
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is doing incredibly, incredibly well, but perception of it is
he has reached his peak. He is on its downfall.
And there's some of these issues, while self inflicted, some
of it is this is kind of what we do
with stars. We build them up, we find their flaws
and are we cannot escape the fact that we cannot.
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We cannot compartmentalize their flaws as being human flaws. We
do the same thing with the NFL. NFL, like any organization,
is flawed, but is successful and is still the number
one sports entity. Its future may not be as bright
as it once was seen to be, and it has
some inherent problems, some that the game won't allow it
to to exist outside of. But I mean, didn't we
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have the greatest Super Bowl comeback in the history of
the Super Bowl last year? Haven't We had huge numbers
and we'll continue to have huge numbers in the playoffs.
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see him on sidelines for Fox sports discoverage of Michigan
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State Penn State. Penn State coming off a loss in
which really felt like they lost in many ways more
than Ohio State one. Right, Like you had a punt blocked,
you don't you come up without a touchdown in the
red zone and your your offense completely disappears late and
you lose to a red hot JT. Barrett Bruce. Let
me start with Penn State. How much does that law
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still sting them? As they traveled East Lansing. Uh. You know,
I talked to Trace McSorley yesterday. This obviously the starting
quarterback and the leader of the team. He said, you know,
they had a player's only meeting and that was the
big focus of it, which was, we cannot let Ohio
State beat us twice. We can't dwell on this. We
just met with James Franklin and their staff of you know,
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a couple of maybe twenty minutes ago, and that was
a point he said, you know, we had a really
good practice. He said, Trace had had a excellent, excellent
week of preparations. So they feel very good about it.
But think, you know, I think, deep down inside, as
much as you know, they don't want to admit they
don't control their own destiny in terms of what's in
front of them to get to the Big Ten title,
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Whereas ironically enough, Michigan State lacked last week and they
come into November where they actually do control their own
destiny if they win there, if they win tomorrow, and
then they can go out and be the Ohio States.
They're going to be in the driver's seat. If that's
the big guest. Yeah, that that that that's a big if.
It's weird, right, both teams coming off a loss, one
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in overtime, one in regulation, but both those stinking Is
Michigan State legit in their ability to compete at the
top of the this league? I think that's my big question.
You know, they're so young. I mean I look at them,
I mean everywhere you look at like sophomores and juniors
and freshmen. I mean, this is the youngest team in
the Big Ten, but they look like they're a year away.
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But they're actually playing pretty well on defense. And the
question is, you know, Brian Laworking, their young quarterback, is
making plays both with his arm and with his feet.
They haven't run it quite as well as you'd expect
with LJ. Scott is at some fumbling issues. But you
know you can't understate Marc d'ntonio. I mean, he's beating
Ohio State a couple of times, and you know he's
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obviously gotten the best of Jim Horriball quite a bit
since he's been there. So we'll see. I mean they
at home, they could pull it up there easily. Tomorrow.
Iowa is an eighteen point home dog. Eighteen point home
dog to Ohio State and local Ohio State after they
lost to uh they had a couple of uneven performance
to start the year. Indiana weren't great for the first
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two thirds of the game, lost at home to Oklahoma,
and then they just start thumping everybody in their path
um and but then they were they were being beaten
handled by Penn State up until the fourth quarter. Taken
on an Iowa team which nearly beat Penn State seems
like a lot for the Hawk Eyes at home. How
competitive do you think that game will be? You know,
we just had last week against Minnesota. Nate's Stanley is
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a really talented young quarterback. He's big, he's got a
strong arm, and he actually moves pretty well. The issue
for Iowa that I think it's going to be a
big problem for them is they don't run the ball
very well, which is not what you'd expect from the
Kirk Parents team. And I think if they can't run it,
and their offensive line is okay but not great, Whereas
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you know, Baker Mayfield can move and Oklahoma has a
really good offensive line. When you faith Ohio State if
you can't run it and you're gonna be kind of
one dimensional. Yeah. That defensive line is nasty. Yeah, and
you know I'm not getting into like, you know, going
too far down the Vegas roads. But it doesn't She
wouldn't shock me at Ohio thinking sports and whole Iowa
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to seven, you know, because their defense is that athletic.
The question is going to be, you know, world they
give up some have some big play bucks, you know,
and get them some uh some some issues where there's
guys running free, which is kind of what happened at times,
you know in the past. I just don't know if
Iowa can exploit that. So the way I look at
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it and I think, you know, I can see why
the spread is as big as as as big as
is when you cannot run the football and Iowa just
can't write. Iowa State's probably the story of the year
in college football. Only team to be two top top
five teams so far this season. I mean, they'd only
beat No Gloma once in all the years they were playing,
the beat him at their place, and then of course
last week they shut down TCU UH and make Kenny
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Hill look like Kenny Hill of of last year, turn
the ball over a bunch. They traveled to Morgantown, West
Virginia team that was just beaten up by Oaklhoma State.
I mean, really that was that was a good old
fashioned whooping. But how real is this Iowa State story?
Oh that's a great story. I mean two top five wins.
You know, I've known Matt Campbell for a while when
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he was at Toledo. I didn't think he was crazy
for taking Iowa State, but I was like, wow, that's
a tough job to get to to get the six
or seven wins. You only have three nonconference games and
one of them is against Iowa. Who's better resource to win,
you know, than than Iowa State. Is what he's done
in a short period of time is so impressive, especially
when you know he's doing it with a backup quarterback.
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And you know, my hats off to him. I can
see why there is such such buzz about him. And
he's a big uh sence over style guy. And this
day and age, when you usually have a guy who's
a rising star who catches catches fire and coaching, it's
usually the opposite. Usually they've seen to be more of
a style over Stubbsence and um, you know, I'm curious
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to see what they can keep doing, if they can
keep the building on it, because you know, as as
through West Virginia really struggle lass we they're talented. We
had them against TCU at you actually thought they were
the better team on us. It was just you know,
the punter from TCU really was sharp and that gave
him a hole to dig out of it. They eventually
couldn't do it. But I'm curious to see if they
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can sustain this because even if you know, for the
first half of the year that hasn't been a better
coach in college football than what Matt Campbell's done. You no,
I I agree with you, and it'll be interesting to see.
You know, they'll be overtures for him. You know, there'll
be people who who won him, and it'll be fascinating,
fascinating to see, um if he leaves in Iowa State,
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especially considering how beloved he will be if he stays.
But we know that that there's been always been ceilings
at jobs like that. Let's stay in the Big twelve. Bedlam, Oklahoma,
Oaklahoma State Lincoln Riley's first time as head coach, My
Gundy was two and nine, two and nine against Bob Stoops.
His team started a four point favorite. Vegas has shifted
that to a one and a half point favorite. Uh,
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it's at home. You know, you go back four years
ago when they thumped Oklahoma. He's got a senior starting quarterback,
he's got James Washington the defensive plane. Well, he's got
some special teams issues. Is this the year that Oklahoma
State breaks through and beats Oklahoma? You know, all those
things make sense. It's just you know, will will will
somebody go beat Basia may So. I don't know, I
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really think I'm not betting against Baker Mayfield in a
Big twelve game. I know that, you know they were
knocked off a couple of weeks ago, But I just
think when he gets into these shootouts, you know, I
just think he is so good and so in command
of what they're doing. I can't bet against him. Whether
he's at still order a plan in Norman, I just, uh,
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you know, he's seen it too many times from him
and until until they do it, I'm gonna believe that.
I'm gonna believe the Sooners are gonna find a way
just because of just because of Beta Bruce Feldman. Check
him out. Penn State taking on Michigan State. He'll be
on the sidelines, he'll be all over. Plus he's got incredible,
just incredible depth of of inside college football information. Real
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quick for I let you go. I know you're writing
for Sports Illustrated as well, if you had, if you
had to put your paycheck online. Who will be the
next head coach of Florida? Um? You know I could
see it being Scott Frost. The question is are they
gonna feel like he's ready to do it? You know
what I mean? I could see them making a hard
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run at Chip Kelly. I think you know that's his
mentor you know, do you get the guy who has
the proven real article. I mean, Florida has been awful
on offense for much of the last decade. I think
both of those guys would would make a cumatic impact
there to me. I think that's the question for Scott's Rikland.
Do you take the guy who's on the custom we're
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not sure he's ready, or do you take the guy
who's who's already been there and done it and give
him the keys to it? Great stuff. Bruce love to
work in s I and of course love it even
more on Fox Sports. Thanks for joining us, Thanks dot
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
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this weekend of your choosing. I won't be attending Bedlam
Oklahoma Oklahoma State, but we'll be watching with some of
my alumni brethren at my abode, and we'll be watching
with bated breath. Alright, that's as many big words I
can say that have bees in it as possible. Getting
ready for they called it Bedroom Oklahoma, Oklahoma State. Give
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you my thoughts on Ezekie Elliott who It's on again.
It's off again. It's on again, It's off again. It's
so incredibly confusing, right, Like, they shouldn't They shouldn't announce
what the actual legally is it us. They shouldn't do it.
They should just go, Hey, the court ruled something, it
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means he's playing. The court ruled something, it means he's
not playing. Because all of us are thoroughly confused as
to what exactly is taking place within the legal process.
But I will tell you the one huge thing I
like about how Zeke is approaching this upcoming. Plus we'll
talk about Deshaun Watson and why the Texans have chosen
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to sign two quarterbacks, neither of whom her name, Colin
Kaepernick Jason Lock came forth from CBS Sports is going
to join us upcoming. All right, let me get to
what I want to get to after. There's two NBA
games last night, both are goods Um Warriors beat the
Spurs and San Antonio and the Trailblazers came from behind
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and beat the Lakers in Portland. And then of course
we also had Todd Bowls. New York Jets continued Todd
Bowls continue to make a run, aad coach of the Year,
maybe coach of the decade. A Jets roster which many
people believe was put together to lose, continues to find
ways to win games. Some of it was the turnovers,
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the fumbles from Buffalo, but a lot of it is, Hey,
a blind man can watch you at Jets team and say,
those guys play really really hard, really really hard, and
the defense was outstand when they saw sack Tyrod Taylor
seven times seven it's a lot. But after that, if
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you would have flipped over to T n T, you
watch the Portland Trailblazers on a Damian Lillard three that
went through the net with point seven seconds remaining, came
from behind and beat the beat the the l A Lakers.
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Now they hopped out to The game was probably one
in the first quarter when the Trailblazers outscored the Lakers,
but the Lakers had regained the lead in the fourth quarter,
and the Blazers end up getting the win, Lillard being Lillard,
But the story of the game was what the hell
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happened Lonzo Ball? He played twenty eight minutes. He did
have a plus ten, which is in plus minus. The
Lakers were ten points better with him on the floor.
But he was oh of two and oh one for three.
He had just four assists, two blocks, one turn over,
one steel, and three rebounds. And so, while I will
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start by saying, hey, he's just nineteen years old, right,
and I will admit that he has never really played
in any way close to the style in which he
has to play to be successful. While many people have said, hey, look,
his dad shielded him from the ills of au like
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all right, Alonzo is a great kid. I have friends
in that organization, I have friends on that coaching staff.
They all said he's a great kid. What happened last
night is confounding. Confounding. It's not that he didn't take
or make shots. It's not that he didn't have that
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many assists. It's that he kind of didn't try. But
it wasn't the wilful disdain that Kobe had once upon
a time when he wasn't surrounded by good enough players
and he chose against the Phoenix Suns in the playoffs too, Hey,
you do what you want to know me, I find
I'm not gonna shoot no, no, no, no no. It
was almost like the lacking of that alpha jeene it
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takes to be a star. Here's Luke Walton, his head coach.
I thought he was a little too passive tonight, um,
and I think that it will continue to be. You know,
It's what I always say that the hardest thing for
young players is the consistency when you just play so
many games. He's so unselfish, you know that sometimes as
the game's going, you know, we we wanted to be
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more more aggressive with not shooting the ball, but just
more aggressive with attacking the defenses, and I feel like
he tonight was one of those nights where, uh, you know,
he was more passive with it, uh than looking to
really attack them. It's funny. I actually texted a buddy
of mine who's on that staff, and I said, why
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is THO so passive? But it it auto corrected into
why so so passive? And then I tried it again.
He was like, what, who's so passive? So so? And
I was like, anyway, and he's like, we don't know.
We have only encouraged him to attack, attack, attack, first
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six seconds of the shot clock, last six seconds of
the shot clock, Go make a play now. Look, there's
some limitations to him athletically, one because he's nineteen two,
because he's not a not a blur. There's limitations to
what he can do scoring wise because he does struggle
at times to shoot, struggles to shoot going right, because
he shoots up the left side of his face. Um,
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there's there's parts to his finishing package which is not perfect.
And he's surrounded in many at many points in time
by young teammates. Larry Nance Jr. Got hurt. That meant
Kyle Kuzma who's their best player last night Ian brook Lopez.
So you've got Kyle Kuzma, You've got Brandon Ingram, Like
those are three first or second year players on the
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floor at the most important time in games. But I
was I was driving, I was listening to Colin Cowherd
about an hour and a half, two hours ago. It's like, well,
don't worry, Zo is still gonna be a star, Like
like there's some tangible aspects that are missing body speed, athleticism, strength,
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jump shot on the right part of his body, Like
those things can be adjusted and can as he develops
and having man muscles that can and he's learning. He's
being coached for the first time. He's never played pick
and roll basketball. He's always been taught to just pass
it ahead. But completely changing the mentality of who you
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are when you're not a verbal leader, asking you to
be a leader of men, boy, I'm I'm not as convinced.
And it's weird. You can really like somebody, you can
appreciate them, and and there will be people who forever
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say like, well, like you would go games where you'd
only be oh of two. I was like, yeah, I
would one because I couldn't shoot two. I would be
taken out of eye shot. But the point would be
I would try and make plays for other people. He
kind of didn't. He just tried to get rid of
it as quickly as he could. And the one thing
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that all of these stars, and they've had Steve Nash
work with him, and Steve Nash is like, hey, look,
when I was first in the league, I would go
in there and I'd always try and pass. And it's
not even about going in there, it's about just getting
rid of the ball too quickly. You can be selfish
while being unselfish. Unselfish is traditionally trying to get assists.
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You can be selfish and trying to create those assists.
He doesn't have that. And it's funny that all of
us who know who a Lonzo Ball really is and
try to tell people, I look. Part of this is
the fact that we judge him based upon LaVar and
the two kind of work together. LaVar is the bragger,
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LaVar is out front, LaVar is the big personality A
Lonzo is not. And though that works in terms of
their working relationship together and their father's son relationship, it
doesn't necessarily work if you're going to be the star
point guard of the l A Lakers. Your dad can't
speak for you, Your dad can't want it for you.
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You kind of want it yourself. And I don't know
if he has that in him. Things like that don't
appear and then disappear and then reappear all at the
same time. So while we we argue back and forth
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about the shooting the ball on the wrong side of
his face and whether or not ultimately he'll become a
good enough shooter score, but we haven't talked enough about
is does he really want or understand what it takes
to be great in the n b A which is
not just the tangible skills, but an intangible quality to
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the give me the ball, let's go. I mean, look,
Damian Lillard easily one of the five most over rated,
overly highly over high, overly highly regarded players in the NBA.
He actually watched him, gets star calls, really only likes
to go left, not a great finisher, he doesn't play
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particularly good defense. Now he's a big time, big time shooter,
shot maker, and he's a good athlete when he gets
a step and he's in transition. He's a score who's
learned to be an NBA point guard, but he's not
like a top five point guard in the NBA. He
just you you can't be a non defender and avoid
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any sort of desire to play defense. Like Steph is
not a good on ball defender, but he's really active
off the basketball and he makes plus he makes up
for it for the fact that he's a better pastor
than Lillard. He's a better shooter than Lillard, and he
has a better finishing package than Lillard. Lillard better better
pure athlete like I I like Damian little. The difference though,
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is that Damian Lillard, as he said in the broadcast
night before or missed it that night, took the same shot,
won the game. Has that whatever that gene is that
some of us have and some of us don't like that.
That's it's part. We'll get to the Ezekiel Elliott thing.
But I'm almost convinced that, like whether it's sexual AsSalt,
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sexual harassment, domestic violence, like I just kind of think
a lot of this is you can have therapy for
some of this, but I just I don't have that
in me. I don't have it in me to ever
lay a hand on a woman. I don't have any
in me to ever violate a woman. I just don't,
and I think so oftentimes it's really hard for those
of us who don't have it in us to to
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understand people that do and how they could treat people
this way. And and the argument that that Zeke is
trying to make his like look this is important to
me because I don't have it in me. I don't
know if he does, but I kind of think that's
the same thing with Damian Lillard as supposed to long
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Zo ball. I have no doubt that Lonzo will become
a better score that will become a better shooter, that
have become a better finisher, that his body will be better,
will be at least slightly more athletic. I do wonder
if he has the gene the f you, I'm going
to win this game, come hell or high water geen
that Lillard absolutely has. Be sure to catch live editions
(12:24):
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(12:47):
start with the Deshaun Watson news. Obviously, everybody in the
NFL really likes the kid. Uh, players, coaches, fans. He
goes down toward a c l and Tom Savage becomes
their star in quarterback. Uh. What's your reaction though, to
the pickups they've made, um after you know, in terms
of backup quarterbacks and the fact that Colin Kaepernick hasn't
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been contacted. Yeah, I mean you're you know, to your
larger point, it's it's just another sort of sad set
of circumstances in the year in which, um, that's kind
of the year of the injury of the star player
unfortunately and doesn't really get showing any signs of slowing down.
And this kid is universally liked and admired for what
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he's done and an incredibly short period of time on
the field, but for for the kind of person he
has shown himself to be during that same period of time. Um,
so it's a devastating loss for them. I that's going
to affect that team, I think, sort of ornamental and
a spiritual level as well, where you've got to be
sitting there now saying, I mean we lose lot and
merciless like two weeks ago, boom boom, and now people,
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we're losing our quarterback and what what's next? And you've
got the McNair's stuff hanging over them still. Also, that's
a tough set of circumstances to Bill O'Brien as to
who they signed. I mean, it's the predictable story. Oh,
guy's got to tie to the system, and they only
played for the guy played for the coach in college
and you know he was there four years ago or whatever.
So I mean it it just kind of is what
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it is. No, I mean that look, that stuff all
makes that, that stuff all makes sense. But the offense
that they've been successful with is one to which you
would think Kaepernick could be successful. I would agree with you.
I would agree with you. But that was never a
consideration there. I mean, there was, um, not a phone call,
not an exploratory anything between them and Colin Kaepernick. I
mean it seemed like, you know, look, the mcbloid stuff
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got out in like thirty seconds, you know what I mean,
Like it was they were not even going to create
a scenario where any sort of Colin Kaepernick questions got
any significant period of time to percolate. I mean, it
was like the call is out, the mcglowin like immediately,
like Bam, we got one system guy there, and then well,
we probably still need another one because we don't have
me by on a practice spot. So let's just o
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get T J. Yates to the next day. So I
mean they never even created a circumstance where you could
seriously mullet or even you know, question them about for
any period of time because it was already like system guys,
system guy, and we're done nothing to see here. But yeah,
I mean could would. Well it'll be very interesting to
see what they have to do now they can't run
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the exact same offense with Watson. You could have run
closer to that offense with Kaepernick. Um, And the deal
with Savage was um weequa he got destroyed. Now that
was Jacksonville and they're destroying a lot of people. But
they also traded their left tackle and they're not going
to have both back no matter which one of these play.
And he's not gonna be able to move to the pocket.
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He's not gonna be able to save plays with his feet,
and he's not gonna be able to extend plays with
his feet. So does this re expose some of their
original protection issues that had something to do with the
change to Watson so soon? In the first place, let's
go to last night where the surprise. These are two
of the most surprising teams in the NFL, right, I
mean like Buffalo five and two. Uh into the Jets
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who everyone thought they were tanking, and Todd Bowles has
been playing incredibly hard. Obviously the Bills had a bunch
of turnovers and that that that's the real story of
the game. But uh, I don't know, I'm you know, like, look,
Bowls was incredibly impressive as ad coordinator in Arizona. Then
in his first year he was great. Then last year
he should have been fired. Now this year he's been
surprisingly good. What's the this This secures his future? Correct? Well,
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we got the second half to go here and and
we'll see. Um, they've had an issue of kind of
losing games late, of not being able to put people
away and making some critical errors, whether it was the
interception in the Miami game or the series of second
half fumbles in the Atlantic game where they had them
dead the rights. And then I go back to the
New England game as well and say, boy, I kind
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of thought they were the better team for at least
three quarters, but they had a call go against them,
and then it's snowballed and they couldn't win the fourth quarter. Um,
they're playing and hard. You can't dispute that. I think
they have more talent than they're giving credit for it.
And at the end of the season, ownership is going
to have to make a decision based on how they
finished about where they're going. Is this staff going to
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be the right staff to incubate and cultivate whichever quarterback
they end up with offseason, most likely a rookie, but
not you know, it's not impossible that it's Kirk Cousins
or somebody like that as well. It's it's not going
to be Josh McCown for the great job that he's doing.
I mean, at agety eight, this is you know, probably
his last hurrahs a long term starter, So you know,
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We'll have to see how the second half goes for
for Todd Bowls. But for a team that everybody expected
to roll over and die, they've done anything but that weekend,
week out, and even the games they've lost have been
sort of errors of mental errors or whatever. But not
any any issues with effort. That that's for darn Shore.
They're they're fighting um the bills. You know, look, their
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KEMP would have been pretty easy. Run the said well,
easy to stipulate, not easy to do. Run the football well.
They play lights out the defense, and they don't turn
the ball over and while creating turnovers, well, last night
they couldn't create anything. Ever. Last night, you know that
Tyrod Taylor came to the year with two giveaways all season,
and you know, they ended up putting balls on the
ground and not helping him out and turning it over
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in weird spots, and they couldn't run the ball a lick.
So uh, it all kind of worked against It was
a short week. I think they may have believed there
clipping a little bit. I think they may have taken
the Jets a little bit lightly, and they looked like
sort of a fatigue team. I think we'll see the
best of them down the stretch. What does the what
do the New England Patriots trading away Jimmy Garoppolo, What
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does that say about the collective future of Belichick and Brady.
I don't know that it says anything. They were all
they always had to trade him. I mean, I feel
like I was the only person than like me and
Pete Prisco were like. He will never be there in
a million years and eighteen. I don't care what anybody
else reports, and I don't care what Bill Belichick whispers.
They are never paying their back more than Tom Brady.
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They are never going to franchise this kid and keep them.
And the only way to keep them would have been
the franchise. So I mean, I'm still stunned they didn't
trade them before the draft when I when I think,
hadn't they really held uh auction, you know, sometime in
mid April. Certainly they're getting more than just the thirty
third overall pick, and that's really the best case scenario
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now is and I don't I don't think San Francisco
is going to get the first overall pick once they
left Garoppolo play and they maybe win a couple of games,
so but the best case for Belichick is thirty third
overall he with with the brown sitting there with with
three second round picks, had they really squeezed them and
really engaged, I can't I can't imagine that they. No
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one in this league believe they couldn't have got more
than a two. People are stunned that in the end,
that's all it took. But I think they misplayed the
situation and they miscalculated. I don't think it has anything
I don't. I mean, look, Brady, as long he plays
like this, he's going nowhere and he's not going to
fall off a cliff And and Tom Brady is not
on his last contract with the New England Patriots get
an extension this offseason just to watch, and Polichick is
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not going anywhere anytime soon. But they couldn't afford to
keep this kid. The mythology had gotten to the point
where he was going, They're going to have the franchise
and to keep them, and that never was gonna make
any sense for them. Look at all the holes they
have on that roster. How are you gonna have forty
million dollars in two quarterbacks on one of them playing
at once? You can't. Yeah, and you never could, which
baffled me is to why everything you read and heard
(20:25):
and saw anywhere was just like no grew up at
the one untouchable. Just dude traded Richard Smoret. In his crime,
he shocked the world by trading Jamie Collins a year ago.
He traded Chandler Jones six months before that, But a
backup quarterback who never sees the field, was the one
member of the Patriots dynasty who he would never trade
under any circumstances. Okay, Jason Lacampford joining a CBS NFL insider. Okay,
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So I'm looking at the Cleveland Cincinnati thing, and obviously
Cleveland looks really, really bad. But there's two things that
jump out at me. The first thing is if if
the Bengals and Browns really wanted to consummate this trade,
and no one else was trying to trade for a J.
McCarron at the time, and they both had some sort
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of email saying that they wanted to make this trade,
why is the NFL holding up a trade of two
teams that want to get this thing done. Well, if
you really want to get things done, it's really really
simple and Sassy Brown has made plenty of tradescluding some
around the deadline last year, and they've made sounds plenty
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of maneuvers in years past when you have to cut
fifty thirty players at once at the trade, at the
at the waiver deadline to get down the fifty three right,
and there's certain things you have to do to be
compliance from a from a from a lead start of
the league year cap standpoint, there's a lot of deadlines
and things you have to do. And Sacy Brown's assistant,
Chris Cooper, worked for years at the NFL Management Council,
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where that's where all these rules come from. Then you're
gonna tell me if they really wanted to make the
trade that no one in the front office would have called.
I mean, if if anyone had just called the Management
Council and say, hey we've we may we may have
forgotten to see see you on this email, or hey
we sent our paperwork to the Bengals, but these were
the terms, and if you have something with them saying
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it's the same terms, I just want to let you
know we got a trade. Like so there's no follow
up email and there's no follow up phone call. So
I would say, it's an assumption to assume they really
wanted to make that. Okay, so that's a consummated trade.
So that that's my second question. Is it that the
Browns management privately like dude, second and the third for
a guy we don't really HU was pushing for this
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and ownership is pushing forward, but we don't really want
to get this thing done. Did they sabotage it? There
are definitely coaches in Cleveland who believe that, and there
are definitely executives around the league. The more they just
considered it, just think this through and how easy it
is to consummated trade at three fifty five or not.
And look, there was not a flurry of activity right
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at the end. So it's not like the Baseball trade
deadline where you couldn't get anybody on the phone at
the management council because there are twelve trades all coming
through it the last second. I mean, the Benjamin thing
happened towards the end, and this you could have got
plenty of people on the phone and no problem saying okay, okay,
hold we're gonna call the Bengals too and just make
sure we're all good here, or hold let me make
sure this matches with the email. So yeah, there's plenty
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of people who feel like that. At the end of
the day, the front officers just didn't want to make
the trade. And so what there's repercustions to that too,
because I mean this is probably sounds unequated and cheesy,
but it's considered a legal gentleman and often all you
have is your word as things are fast and furious,
and that's with agents and negotiations, and that's with teams
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in negotiations. And I can tell you the Bengals are
livid um and people on that out front office are livid,
and and that building was going to blow up no
matter what. But the knives are really out now. It's
gonna be an interesting last half of the year. Just
when you think it can't get any lower for the Browns, boy,
they always show you that. No, don't say a lot shark.
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We we got you know, we can do better than that.
The yeah that was I'm not sure anybody can have
a hold my beer moment over what the Browns pulled
off this week. Goes have lost three in a row,
and brock Osweiler for at least this period of time
gets his job back. How long is it leaves for
Brock Not long, not long until as soon as they
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deemed Packton Lynch, you know, healthy enough to go, which
I suspected sooner rather than later. This is very much
a cable setting. You know, hold my spot here for
a little bit by us sometime. Maybe go get you know,
maybe maybe go sacrifice yourself to the football gods. And
Jim Sports is front seven over there in Philadelphia. And
then we'll see what we have with this former first
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round pick in the second half of the year and
figure out if we if we're okay at quarterback. Um,
if you know we're we need to go the route
they went with Peyton Manning, which in this case would
be Drew Brees. Um, they're gonna have to find out
about Paxton Lynch, and they'll start finding out pretty soon.
Jason great stuff. Go to CBS sports dot com, follow
him on Twitter, or watch him on the NFL on
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CBS IS coverage of the a f C of course
you can uh and the entire league. Jason Locker for
incredible work. Thanks so much, Jason, are always the best.
To you. J LC. Fox Sports Radio has the best
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I Heart Radio app. Can't you I just all get
together and decide that the guy's gonna play football the
(25:28):
rest of you or not. Can't we just can we
just decide that? But I'll tell you something that I
do respect. I don't respect men that hit women. I know, like,
what's the matter with you? Um? On the other hand, like,
I know ray Rice hard one because I've gotten to
(25:49):
know ray Rice, and I do think ray Rice was
kind of a phony before he did this. Guy had
to run in with ray Rice to where I was like,
what is up with ray Rice? To where I felt
like he was not terribly stable in terms of how
he was viewing the world. And having known him since
he's gone through therapy become a spokesperson against domestic violence.
I know that a lot. To a lot of you,
(26:10):
You're like, what the only reason is doing that is
because of the video? And he's trying to get back
in the NFL. Like he's not getting back in the
NFL and he's still still out there doing these good deeds.
I tend to like ray Rice, So this is a
hard one. I don't like dude dudes that hit women.
I just like, what's the matter with you? So I
know I'm a hypocrite in that because I've met Ray
Rice and got to know him and really and find
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him to be a guy who's taken on a lot
of abuse, abuse that he's earned from the media and
from the public, and handled it in a way in
which I don't know if there's any other way to
handle just go get therapy and try and tell people, Hey,
don't do what I've done. Be better than me. But
this is what I agreed with about Tom Brady. This
(26:52):
is what I agree with as far as Ezekie Elliott, thanks.
I've never understood the idea of accepting a punishment if
you didn't think you did anything wrong, right, and you
didn't think you did anything wrong, what are you accept
from the punishment for well? I was and and you know,
(27:15):
I understand that if you're psychologically beaten by you know,
psychologically beating like you're in a you're in a war camp.
And I've just seen these things in movies where they
get you to confess to something because they've you haven't
had sleep, and you haven't had water, and you're being
tortured and exhausted. You admit you'll say anything just for
the torture to stop. But in the real world, we're
(27:37):
not torturing Ezekiel Elliott. He could accept the four game suspension,
he would survive the six game suspension. He would survive this.
He would still have an NFL career. He would be
able to put like to anybody who thinks that there's
not a second life for guys based upon town, I
give you Alex Rodriguez, Right, dude, Alex Rodriguez didn't test.
(27:59):
What didn't it wasn't popped for steroids once he was
popped for steroids twice. He was hated before he ever
got popped for steroids. Hated because how how he was
just a roboty just not human. Plus the huge contract,
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the fact that teams won when he laughed, and he
goes to the Yankees after being young and stupid with
the Rangers, in which he wasn't young and stupid. He
pretended like he didn't know when he went down to
the dr and got some bolet right then he tells
positive again, Hey dude, a rod in spite of the
fact that the Yankees did not want him around wasn't
he on TV the last couple of weeks? Didn't he
(28:45):
a TV star? Now? Hasn't he remade himself? Any dayton
j Lo doesn't even see doesn't he seem like he's
got the world by the what's the expression by the
short hairs? Right like there is a two and a
three point oh. This is a long life for dudes,
and especially for Zeki Elliott. This is bigger than a suspension,
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is bigger than football. It's them trying to make me something.
I'm not not an abuser. It's not who I am.
This is my name, this is my reputation. That's something
I have to live with beyond football every day. It's
worth fighting for. I'm not an abuser. That's what he said.
You know what, I don't know if he did it.
I don't know if he did it. I can tell
you that the police didn't feel like there was good
enough evidence to even to to go forward and charge him.
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That doesn't mean he didn't do it. I read her account,
I read some of the text messages, some of the
other stuff going on, and I I tend to have
a great deal of doubt. But I'll tell you what,
if I didn't do it, you ain't. Nothing in the
world knows suspension the world. No court in the world
(29:50):
is gonna tell me that I did it, especially like
this because I like, I think most of the world says,
you either have the gene or you don't have the gene.
You could lay a hand on a woman, and Zeke's
like an amy. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Doug gott Leaps Show weekdays at three p m.
Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
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Heart Radio app. When I say Justin Bieber, now, what
do you think of him, John Ramos, I think he's
kind of like been passed by, passed by. Okay, but
what about you ry music? Too much, fame too early,
too much fame too early? Uh? What has he been
a Has he been a turd? The answer is yes.
(30:35):
If you had millions and millions of dollars and millions
and millions of followers when you were in your teens,
and you were good looking, and you were in a
place like Los Angeles where everybody kissed up to you,
you would probably have been at least partially a turd too. Um.
Matter of fact, if you go back to two thousand ten,
he made fifty three million dollars fifty three in a
(30:58):
in a twelve month period. The crazy thing about Justin
Bieber is his music, or at least the music that's
currently being played on the radio whenever it was recorded right,
Friends and Sorry, and the album is Purpose is really outstanding.
It's really really good stuff. It's the best stuff he's
(31:20):
ever done. He's back Whistlina Gomez. He seems to be stable,
but in many ways I think Ramos's view of him
is kind of over. Justin Bieber is kind of a
too much, too soon. He's twenty three years old, like
his rise was an improbable story. He's a young, good
looking kid who comes from Canada, comes to the States
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and just crush his life. He can sing, he can dance,
he can rap. I don't know if he can act.
He's acting like a jerk for a long time. And
some of it is self inflicted, right, obviously excess into
drinking and probably ugs. We don't know enough about it.
But he's he's supposedly stepping away from music to get
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his life together. It's reasonable to conceive that a lot
of his own issues are self inflicted, much like the
NFL's the humorists of Hey, we're gonna put our game
on Sunday up against the World Series. Not because not
because we couldn't previously, but because we can now we
can squash the NFL. We're gonna have Thursday night football.
(32:27):
Why because we can make more money doing it. I
know it kind of waters down the product. I know
it makes fantasy football hard. I know it it's too
short of prep time for some of these teams, so
the game isn't that good. But I know there's just
a proliferation of NFL on TV. But it makes a
lot of money. Pride comes before the fall. They could
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have admitted that football caused brain injury a long time ago.
They could have had just addressed the helmet situation, they
hitting situation a long time. They didn't because they're making
lots and lots and lots of money. But look, with
all of these issues, protests, CT, injuries to your best players,
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proliferation of the NFL on TV, the ratings are still
really good. Still ratings, King still rakes it in. You
still left Tom Brady still gonna end up with the
Dallas Cowboys being in the playoffs, the Seattle Seahawks being
the playoffs probably the l A Rams and the playoffs.
You won't have the jets of the Giants, but you
get the Patriots, you get most of the big markets,
(33:31):
you get most of the big names. You'll get the Steelers.
You're gonna get big name franchise. You're gonna get huge numbers.
Just like even though many of us have a negative
view of Justin Bieber, wildly crazy, crazily successful. Uh he
had number ones and back to back on both English
(33:54):
and Spanish language top one hundreds this past summer. Right
plus he's on was It David Guetta as how do
you say his last name to you? He's on that
was Ghetta Ghetta David Ghetta. My son loves that song.
He's on a bunch of other songs on the song
with d DJ Khalid as well. Like Justin Bieber actually
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is doing incredibly, incredibly well, but perception of it is
he has reached his peak. He is on its downfall.
And there's some of these issues, while self inflicted, some
of it is this is kind of what we do
with stars. We build them up, we find their flaws
and are we cannot escape the fact that we cannot.
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We cannot compartmentalize their flaws as being human flaws. We
do the same thing with the NFL. NFL, like any organization,
is flawed, but is successful and is still the number
one sports entity. Its future may not be as bright
as it once was seen to be, and it has
some inherent problems, some that the game won't allow it
to to exist outside of. But I mean, didn't we
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have the greatest Super Bowl comeback in the history of
the Super Bowl last year? Haven't We had huge numbers
and we'll continue to have huge numbers in the playoffs.
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Bruce Felman joined us on the Doug Gottlip Show. You'll
see him on sidelines for Fox sports discoverage of Michigan
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State Penn State. Penn State coming off a loss in
which really felt like they lost in many ways more
than Ohio State one. Right, Like you had a punt blocked,
you don't you come up without a touchdown in the
red zone and your your offense completely disappears late and
you lose to a red hot JT. Barrett Bruce. Let
me start with Penn State. How much does that law
(35:46):
still sting them? As they traveled East Lansing. Uh. You know,
I talked to Trace McSorley yesterday. This obviously the starting
quarterback and the leader of the team. He said, you know,
they had a player's only meeting and that was the
big focus of it, which was, we cannot let Ohio
State beat us twice. We can't dwell on this. We
just met with James Franklin and their staff of you know,
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a couple of maybe twenty minutes ago, and that was
a point he said, you know, we had a really
good practice. He said, Trace had had a excellent, excellent
week of preparations. So they feel very good about it.
But think, you know, I think, deep down inside, as
much as you know, they don't want to admit they
don't control their own destiny in terms of what's in
front of them to get to the Big Ten title,
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Whereas ironically enough, Michigan State lacked last week and they
come into November where they actually do control their own
destiny if they win there, if they win tomorrow, and
then they can go out and be the Ohio States.
They're going to be in the driver's seat. If that's
the big guest. Yeah, that that that that's a big if.
It's weird, right, both teams coming off a loss, one
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in overtime, one in regulation, but both those stinking Is
Michigan State legit in their ability to compete at the
top of the this league? I think that's my big question.
You know, they're so young. I mean I look at them,
I mean everywhere you look at like sophomores and juniors
and freshmen. I mean, this is the youngest team in
the Big Ten, but they look like they're a year away.
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But they're actually playing pretty well on defense. And the
question is, you know, Brian Laworking, their young quarterback, is
making plays both with his arm and with his feet.
They haven't run it quite as well as you'd expect
with LJ. Scott is at some fumbling issues. But you
know you can't understate Marc d'ntonio. I mean, he's beating
Ohio State a couple of times, and you know he's
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obviously gotten the best of Jim Horriball quite a bit
since he's been there. So we'll see. I mean they
at home, they could pull it up there easily. Tomorrow.
Iowa is an eighteen point home dog. Eighteen point home
dog to Ohio State and local Ohio State after they
lost to uh they had a couple of uneven performance
to start the year. Indiana weren't great for the first
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two thirds of the game, lost at home to Oklahoma,
and then they just start thumping everybody in their path
um and but then they were they were being beaten
handled by Penn State up until the fourth quarter. Taken
on an Iowa team which nearly beat Penn State seems
like a lot for the Hawk Eyes at home. How
competitive do you think that game will be? You know,
we just had last week against Minnesota. Nate's Stanley is
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a really talented young quarterback. He's big, he's got a
strong arm, and he actually moves pretty well. The issue
for Iowa that I think it's going to be a
big problem for them is they don't run the ball
very well, which is not what you'd expect from the
Kirk Parents team. And I think if they can't run it,
and their offensive line is okay but not great, Whereas
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you know, Baker Mayfield can move and Oklahoma has a
really good offensive line. When you faith Ohio State if
you can't run it and you're gonna be kind of
one dimensional. Yeah. That defensive line is nasty. Yeah, and
you know I'm not getting into like, you know, going
too far down the Vegas roads. But it doesn't She
wouldn't shock me at Ohio thinking sports and whole Iowa
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to seven, you know, because their defense is that athletic.
The question is going to be, you know, world they
give up some have some big play bucks, you know,
and get them some uh some some issues where there's
guys running free, which is kind of what happened at times,
you know in the past. I just don't know if
Iowa can exploit that. So the way I look at
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it and I think, you know, I can see why
the spread is as big as as as big as
is when you cannot run the football and Iowa just
can't write. Iowa State's probably the story of the year
in college football. Only team to be two top top
five teams so far this season. I mean, they'd only
beat No Gloma once in all the years they were playing,
the beat him at their place, and then of course
last week they shut down TCU UH and make Kenny
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Hill look like Kenny Hill of of last year, turn
the ball over a bunch. They traveled to Morgantown, West
Virginia team that was just beaten up by Oaklhoma State.
I mean, really that was that was a good old
fashioned whooping. But how real is this Iowa State story?
Oh that's a great story. I mean two top five wins.
You know, I've known Matt Campbell for a while when
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he was at Toledo. I didn't think he was crazy
for taking Iowa State, but I was like, wow, that's
a tough job to get to to get the six
or seven wins. You only have three nonconference games and
one of them is against Iowa. Who's better resource to win,
you know, than than Iowa State. Is what he's done
in a short period of time is so impressive, especially
when you know he's doing it with a backup quarterback.
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And you know, my hats off to him. I can
see why there is such such buzz about him. And
he's a big uh sence over style guy. And this
day and age, when you usually have a guy who's
a rising star who catches catches fire and coaching, it's
usually the opposite. Usually they've seen to be more of
a style over Stubbsence and um, you know, I'm curious
(40:54):
to see what they can keep doing, if they can
keep the building on it, because you know, as as
through West Virginia really struggle lass we they're talented. We
had them against TCU at you actually thought they were
the better team on us. It was just you know,
the punter from TCU really was sharp and that gave
him a hole to dig out of it. They eventually
couldn't do it. But I'm curious to see if they
(41:18):
can sustain this because even if you know, for the
first half of the year that hasn't been a better
coach in college football than what Matt Campbell's done. You no,
I I agree with you, and it'll be interesting to see.
You know, they'll be overtures for him. You know, there'll
be people who who won him, and it'll be fascinating,
fascinating to see, um if he leaves in Iowa State,
(41:38):
especially considering how beloved he will be if he stays.
But we know that that there's been always been ceilings
at jobs like that. Let's stay in the Big twelve. Bedlam, Oklahoma,
Oaklahoma State Lincoln Riley's first time as head coach, My
Gundy was two and nine, two and nine against Bob Stoops.
His team started a four point favorite. Vegas has shifted
that to a one and a half point favorite. Uh,
(42:00):
it's at home. You know, you go back four years
ago when they thumped Oklahoma. He's got a senior starting quarterback,
he's got James Washington the defensive plane. Well, he's got
some special teams issues. Is this the year that Oklahoma
State breaks through and beats Oklahoma? You know, all those
things make sense. It's just you know, will will will
somebody go beat Basia may So. I don't know, I
(42:21):
really think I'm not betting against Baker Mayfield in a
Big twelve game. I know that, you know they were
knocked off a couple of weeks ago, But I just
think when he gets into these shootouts, you know, I
just think he is so good and so in command
of what they're doing. I can't bet against him. Whether
he's at still order a plan in Norman, I just, uh,
(42:44):
you know, he's seen it too many times from him
and until until they do it, I'm gonna believe that.
I'm gonna believe the Sooners are gonna find a way
just because of just because of Beta Bruce Feldman. Check
him out. Penn State taking on Michigan State. He'll be
on the sidelines, he'll be all over. Plus he's got incredible,
just incredible depth of of inside college football information. Real
(43:05):
quick for I let you go. I know you're writing
for Sports Illustrated as well, if you had, if you
had to put your paycheck online. Who will be the
next head coach of Florida? Um? You know I could
see it being Scott Frost. The question is are they
gonna feel like he's ready to do it? You know
what I mean? I could see them making a hard
(43:26):
run at Chip Kelly. I think you know that's his
mentor you know, do you get the guy who has
the proven real article. I mean, Florida has been awful
on offense for much of the last decade. I think
both of those guys would would make a cumatic impact
there to me. I think that's the question for Scott's Rikland.
Do you take the guy who's on the custom we're
(43:46):
not sure he's ready, or do you take the guy
who's who's already been there and done it and give
him the keys to it? Great stuff. Bruce love to
work in s I and of course love it even
more on Fox Sports. Thanks for joining us, Thanks dot
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