August 7, 2019 • 32 mins
Doug thinks LeBron James and his Rich Paul are being narcissistic when they claim the new rules in college basketball are targeted towards them. He also thinks people are overblowing the confrontation between Aaron Rodgers and his new head coach Matt LaFleur. Plus, he talks to Arizona head coach Kevin Sumlin about the early kickoff times and what he expects in the PAC 12 this season.
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to rise to prominence in this profession. Plus great hair,
great beard good accent sounds like the South, doesn't He Like,
if I was from the South, I'd want to look
and talk and act exactly like Marty Smith. So yesterday
came it came down that there's a a new n
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c A rule right now in college basketball college basketball.
What I think most people know is that there's a
new rule that was enacted for this past season, this
past year in which college basketball underclassman could talk to
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and actually sign with sign with an NBA agent all
trying to make a decision as to whether or not
they um as to whether or not they wanted to
go to the pros. So this is one year in
to these new rules in terms of timing, and yesterday
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there's a new n c amendment the criteria for agents
angling to represent college basketball players who are just testing
the draft. Waters. Here's the three pre rex you have
to have. You have to have a bachelor's degree, you
have to be certified by the NBA PA for at
least three years, and you must pass in person exam
at the n c A office in Annapolis. Right. So,
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when you think about these three rules immediately, I think,
I think a person who's been around a while been
around sports while understands bachelor's degree. All right, you went
to college and you gotta be a you gotta be
yes or whatever you get. Whatever you got, it's fine.
You must be certified by the NBA PA for at
least three years. We don't want some guy who's just
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getting into the business who hasn't gone to college, who's
you know, A you guy? Now I want to represent
my guy and be an agent advising players. We want
people that are educated in the profession and educated in general.
And you must pass the in personal exam the n
c A office. Why is that so you know what
the rules are. Because the NBA PA rules are different
from the NA rules. And this way you can't say
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I didn't know what was that at the end of
G I Joe cartoons and knowing is half the battle. So,
of course, the most prominent NBA voice on social media
is Lebron James, and he comes out and rips it
and calls it the Rich Paul rule. I looked up
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the definition of of something someone and I thought it
was really really interesting. Okay, so this is the definition
of a of a syndrome. Okay, the personality syndrome. It's
a long term pattern of abnormal behavior characterized by exaggerating
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feelings of self importance and excessive need for admiration and
lack of empathy. Those affected often spends so much time
thinking about achieving power or success or on their appearance,
they often take advantage of people around them. Their behavior
typically begins at early adulthood and occurs throughout a variety
of social situations. Uh huh um. Some of the signs
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or symptoms of such a personality disorder grandiosity with expectations
of superior treatment from other people. Didn't Lebron show up
at a Laker game last year with a goblet of wine?
Did happen? Fixation on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness,
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self perception of being unique, superior associated with the high
status people and institutions. Now, Lebron James is of high status,
all right, But the idea that he's unique, the idea
that all these rules, all these things are about him,
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the need for continual admiration from others. What happened last
week when David Griffin said, you know, look, it was
miserable to work with Lebron to try and win that championship,
And you know Lebron even in his own words, he's
not the animal he used to be about winning. Unwillingness
to emphasize empathy, empathize with the feelings, wishes, needs of
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other people. This is all narcissistic personality disorder. That's what
it is. Like, Hey, look, dude, Lebron, it ain't about you,
it ain't about rich Paul. I know you may feel
like I'm the first athlete of my kind to force
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my way out of a situation. No, actually, you're a
free agent. You signed elsewhere. It's happened before. Shaquille O'Neal
went from the Magic to the Lakers, right, Kareem abdul
Jabbar forced his way from the Bucks the Lakers, Mack.
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You look around the NBA, and this has happened for
years in which players have picked their destination and at
times of power or at times of free agents. In fact,
when Lebron James left Cleveland, he was a free agent.
He didn't even force his way. He didn't do what
others have done. Like, if anything, Paul George is more
the Trailblazer. Paul George signed a MAX contract to stay
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after shunning the Lakers, and a year later walked into
Sam Presty's office and said, I'm done here. Trade me
to the Clippers right now. That's actually the first of
its kind because usually what happens is you're in the
last year of a contract, or maybe, like Anthony Davis,
the last two years of a contract. You've been for
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to a place for a long time. Lebron James left
two franchises, both when he was a free agent and
he was free to do so. Maybe signing the one
year contract is the unique part, but that's about it.
Lebron James thinks he invented barbershop conversation. He actually sued
the University of Alabama because they had a barbershop talk
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TV show. Rob Parker works here at Fox Sports Radio.
He co hosts The Odd Couple, which starts at seven
o'clock Eastern time, four o'clock Pacific. Did you know he
had a barbera barbershop talk show on television? I mean, hey,
can we watch Coming to America? The most famous scenes
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are from the Barbershop. There's actually the a movie called
The Barbershop. But Lebron James not only has the fixation
of fantasies of power, success, intelligence, and attractiveness, but he's
a self perception of being unique, superior, high status people.
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You say he doesn't lack empathy. Look, I don't think
anyone should think that Lebron James talking about Taco Tuesday
using a Mexican accent is any sort as any sort
of really negative impact. I don't think it's discriminatory. I
don't think it's racist. It's not a big deal. I
don't actually care. But what you should at least consider is,
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imagine if it was Imagine if it was for Lawful
Wednesday and he talked like somebody who is Jewish, right,
imagine if it was Lula Wednesday and they talked like
somebody who was Asian, Or if I did that exact
same voice, how would you feel about it? How do
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you feel about it? Like? Look, we took a Pooh
off of The Simpsons because it was deemed to be
an offensive stereotype of Indian people that they would work
and talk and be on their own Quickie Mark. All right,
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But Lebron James thinks that he's superior, can't empathize with others,
doesn't see that the exact same thing. He spends most
of his social media work working against he's actually performing
himself because he has narcissistic personality disorder. Just take a breath,
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look at it for what it is. It's the n
c A going like, hey, here's a low bar. Just
have a degree, be allegit agent for a couple of years.
Come in and meet with us and pass the tests,
you know, the n c A rules, and you can
go and sign and UH signed n c A players
and talk with them about the possibility of them leaving
for the NBA. Rich Paul has lawyers that work for him.
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The fact that rich Paul doesn't have a bachelor's degree
should be a warning sign. I want my agent to
not just have a bachelor's degree. I want a master's
degree and a law degree. And the idea that Lebron
James thinks this is about him, that NBA teams wanted
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to change player movement is about him, that barbershop talk
is about him is classic narcissistic behavior. And some of
that is what allowed him to be an incredible athlete
and have an incredible impact on media, social media and
the places in which he's played. But dude, this ain't
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about Rich Paul. Jeff Goodman, of course, long time I'm
hoops insider, works for Stadium Sports. One NBA guy of
the new n c A rules. The Rich Paul stuff
is silly. He reps like one or two guys per draft,
and as lawyers working for him, they're trying to protect
kids from other clowns. You should see the runner workout
guy uncle types. We get this isn't about Rich Paul,
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but when Lebron James automatically assumes it is, it only
shows Lebron James as narcissistic personality disorder. Be sure to
catch live edition so the Doug Dot Leaps Show week
days at noon eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Hey, I'm Zeke Elliott.
I'm better than Todd Gurley. I'm younger than Todd Gurley,
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but I'm one year removed from when Todd Gurley got
his contract. I want to start. We'll start a negotiations
at Todd Gurley and work up. Here's the Stephen Jones said.
I still think that's within realm. At the same time,
I think the market reach out with Levian. You know,
I think you see what happens with Gurley, how tenuous
it is, and then you get a great player to
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like Levian who's every bit as well thought of as
as Girly, and he had unfettered free agency, had thirty
two teams with no draft picks attached, and the market
was thirteen point five less than Girle. So at the
end of the day, business changes. And uh, we certainly
pay attention to that as well. This is just the
reality of it. This is all real discussion how a
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real transaction occurs in the NFL. You got the Todd
Gurley one, I hear you. That was a year ago.
Since that one Todd Gurley of course didn't finish years strong.
They picked up C. J. Anderson off the street and
he became a dynamic back for them. That heard Levian Bell.
He pointed out, look, Levian Bell is a free agent, Zekiel,
it's not a free agent. Levian Bell could have signed
with any team he wanted, and that there was no
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compensatory picks, none, free free to go where he wants,
and the team that he picks signs him for thirteen
million dollars a year. And oh yeah, by the way,
even that deal didn't sit well with a new head
coach and the gentlemanager was summarily fired. Right, This is
I'm using a comp from a year ago. Hey, down
the street, that house sold for seven seven, seven fifty,
and you know prices go up for to seven percent
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a year at four decem percent to seven fifty, or
at four to seven percent from my value last year,
and we should sell my house for five. And the
realtor comes in and comms, comms and says commany says,
let's listen, that's not how this business works. You don't
just take the top comp since then to have sold
below seven. They have more square footage, same pool, you
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have better side of the street, same school district. The
market has corrected itself. This is where people talk about
football being a business. It is players being a commodity.
They are. And while I would I would make the
argument and be a sound one that Ezeki Elliott is
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a much better all around back than Todd Gurley because
girl's got that gimpe knee. But Todd Gurley has no
off the field issues Zeke Elliott has. Zeke Elliott is
this close to getting another multi game suspension like he's
been a problem now. He's trific football player and their
offense is built around him. So he does have some
leverage in that. Hey, in order for us to be
the best version of ourselves, I need to be involved
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in the offense. He and wrong, But Steven Jones is saying, listen,
we value you, but you're worth what somebody's willing to
pay you. Zeke is worried that the market would correct itself.
He wants to get it done earlier rather than later.
And here's the problem. The market already corrected itself. That
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Levan Bell actually got a flyer. He he got what's
called an angel offer. That's what they call in real estate. Oh,
you got an angel offer. Somebody came in and just
gave you way more than anybody else is willing to pay.
And he took it. He's lucky it hasn't correct itself
even more, and it probably will, you know, from Christian
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McCaffrey and any of these other running backs, don't be
surprised if the market continues to correct itself. Now, Zeke
maybe better than all of them, more of a three
down back and able to be able to block better
and catch better in the backfield like all of these things,
and the off more durable, and the offense is built
around him like all of these things are accurate. But
that's like trying to convince somebody that, no, listen, my
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house is better a better air conditioning, at better windows,
at better doors, and like, look, we basically go by
price per square foot. Be sure to catch live editions.
So the Doug Dot Leap Show weekdays at noon eastern
three pm Pacific. Who knows that better than Kevin Someone,
Arizona's head football coach, Kevin how are you doing great?
How are you doing good? Man? Um? All right, So
what were your when you when you took the job.
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And I was wondering, does he take a year off?
Does he reset? Does he do television? He decided to
take the Arizona job. What were your thought when you
took the job. What was your perspective on what the
Arizona job was gonna be? Like, it's kind of interesting
because I've been out here and um, I mean a
bunch of times. And when Mike Stoops took the job,
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was actually with him in Arizona, I mean at Oklahoma
was gonna come, but then came out here and visited,
visited Rich Rich, came to A and m and so
I've been on here a bunch of times with our president. Uh.
Dr Robbins and Dave Hiki are athletic director, have a
real vision. It's a beautiful campus. It's a beautiful place.
And as I just caught the tail into what you're saying.
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You know, we're a six hour drive from from l A,
from San Diego, from Vegas, uh proximity um to Texas.
So great location, beautiful campus, place to live and and uh,
you know it's a place that has had success before
and there's no reason we can't have success again. Yeah,
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I listen. I live in Orange County, which is like
Arizona Central. It's crazy, how many how many years? How
how many years? And it's a it's a it's a
great school. I mean there you can walk, you can
be outside all year, you can walk to the bars.
Bars are all indoor, outdoor like it's a there's a
lot tougher college life even in the Pact twelve than
there are at Arizona. All right. So it's funny because
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I was in San Diego the week weekend before we
went to camp, because we went to camp early, and uh,
it's up at Pacific Beach and there's this Arizona flags
up and down the Beach, and it's like you said,
it's it's Arizona West and between Orange County and in
San Diego. It's it's. Uh, there's a lot of people
that have gone to school here and have allegiance to
to uh this university. Yeah, and it's a legit college town,
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you know, whereas Arizona State has like a hundred thousand students.
But it's a pro sports town as well, so it's
a it's a completely different vibe. So you inherit. Khalil
Tate and his freshman year unbelievable year running the football
a little bit different offense. He seemed to struggle last
year trying to show people he could stay in the
pocket and be a real quarterback. What's what's the real Like? Look,
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you know football wait at a much higher level than
all of us. What what really? Some people don't think so,
but that's a great compliment, Okay. I mean like, look,
you're at Oklahoma, You're at Perdue, You're at Houston, you're
at A and M. Your offenses were never have never
been at at issue? What what was what's the real
analysis of why Khalil Tate wasn't better as as a
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sophomore I think there's a number of reasons that, you know,
and then he's not gonna make excuses, and I'm not
gonna make excuses for him. You know it, Uh A
lot happened, you know, all that happened. Really he played
really six games is that year, and Uh, um just
UH was phenomenal in those six or seven games. UM
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and and really had a tough injury to the second
game last year against Houston, and and UH was never
really right and you know, tried to play through it
as a as a tough guy. UH had so bad.
You know, we went to u c. L A And
and he didn't even he didn't even suit up for
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u c l A And, which was stuff on him
because he's going back home. So you know, I think,
you know, with all those things, and and the thing
that that really put him on the scene is his
speed and his ability to run. You know, with an
ankle injury like he had, it really limited him and
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it limited what we could do with him. But he's
healthy now. I think he learned a lot from last year, Uh,
from just all the hype and and then the injury
and and really, uh with with everything that happened to him,
you know, he it's an experience that I think he'll
tell you in what he what he said at that
packed twelve media days. You know, it's something that uh
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uh he had never experienced. He'd never been hurt, He's
never had to go through anything like that, and it
really brought him to a place where he is right
now where he appreciates everything. It's made him work harder
and he's having a good fall camp. Um J J.
Taylor's you're running back five When you were at old
you did you guys have Quentin Griffin there or that's
before me? Yeah, but we played against him with out
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of the assistant that that at him. Yeah, yeah, he was.
He was pretty good, but that he's like who's who
is he? Because he's tight. He's a lot like him,
and uh, you know it's it's amazing. You know we
talked about, well what we were on offense, we actually
led the pack twelve and rushing last year. Is this
guy ran for fourteen hundred yards and uh just a
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dynamic player and a heck of a kick return guy too.
So uh he's uh, he's he might be little, but
he's pretty good at what he does. He's a little
like like you think I hadn't heard that name in
a long time. A Q and and a little uh
Jones drew kind of kind of guy. So but uh,
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but he's extremely effective, can catch the ball out of
the backfield and and uh, you know, not everybody can
run for fourteen hundred yards in the season. No, no,
you guys go to how are you playing Hawaii? But
you play? You play a week before everybody else plays.
How much like you know, coaches are creatures of habit
is this is this a good thing about? Like what
do you actually think about not just playing uh on
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the road, but to start the season a week before
everybody else. Just let you know, we're on practice eleven tonight.
So we've been we've been at it for a while here.
So it's, uh, we got you know, we got started
early and uh, you know, to get out there. It's
it's gonna be good. But you know, we got a
bye week the next week, which is which is good
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for us as a team because we got a bunch
of new players and uh, some young guys are gonna play,
some junior guys, you know, college guys are gonna play,
and and uh, you know, for us to get started
early this year has been I think it's been great,
you know, just because you know, with a tough year
last year and really um, for for me as a coach,
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and and for a lot of coaches that have been
with me. You know, not having postseason play was was tough.
And you know, the sooner we could get started back
to to to practicing football and being with our team, uh,
the better. And Uh it's a little bit different season
for us this year. We've got three different by weeks.
Last year, I think we were one of only a
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couple of teams that went ten straight weeks in a row.
Plan So h injuries, right, I mean yeah, yeah, and
and so that made it tough. But but now, um,
I think you know, after going through last year and
being where everything that happened, Um, I think the season
this even with the schedule and the travel that we
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have and and and the teams that we're gonna play
from the North, Um, I think the schedule is favorable
for us. What about the Pack twelve is different from
you know, like the Southwest. I guess what I would
call were you you mostly coached? Right? What? What what
is so? I mean? And look, look obviously coached in
the Southeast in the SEC, but and m obviously being
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in collegetation. What in terms of style, uh, players, like,
what what's different from your perspective on the sidelines or
the Big Ten with eleven o'clock games. We don't have
any of those out here. Yeah, I want to ask
about that all the games in a second. Yeah, No,
it's you know, you're you're it's it's you're playing at night. Um.
It's a little bit different than than uh, you know,
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in the Big Ten as assistant coach or even the player.
You know, you get up and play and and you're
back home and watching everybody else at four and I
think you know, in the in the SEC, and and
and some of those places. I mean in in Houston, Uh,
you know, the primetime game is two thirty, um, you know,
and we're playing night games here in the in the West,
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and so it's just a little bit different. Like I
like the night games. I don't know. It must be
hard to sit around all day, you know. For the
for the fans, it's it's great. I think, you know,
you get the guys get they get tuned up all
day and and and we got great students support here
and and and uh, you know, but you sit around
the hotel all day and and you know, sometimes uh,
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I used to worry about we get guys out of
the hotel room and in the SEC because didn't want
to watch game day and see who the game was on.
You know, this guy's gotta do this, this guy's gotta
do that. So we'd have walkthroughs and things like that.
But even by the time we eat breakfast and started meeting,
game days off and and and there's a bunch of
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games on that here at the at the nine ten o'clock,
So just a little bit different. I meant more like
personnel wise, right, like, you know, it seems like big ten.
And I know there's some they've they've done a good
job of recruiting a little bit better athletes on the
on the but it seems like, you know, the lines,
it's a little bit a little bit more old school football,
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a little bit you know, Bigger's kind of stirred your
you know, linebacks. Where's you know, Big twelve obviously wide open,
great wide receivers, unbelievable quarterbacks, um. And then the sec
that the defensive lines seem to be just different and
better that the level of the depth of athletes and
the defensive side of the football UM to match the
offense as well. It seems to be better. I'm just
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wondering what the PAC twelve is like. From a guy
who's been around the country and coach out the place,
I would say this. I think the speed is is
comparable to anybody you know. And and uh athleticism I think, uh,
I think you're right about you know, defensive fronts in
the SEC. That's that's pretty obvious. UM. But there's been
some great quarterbacks in this league too. UM. And and
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I think diversity in the offense UH gives you a
little bit different look, uh than than than maybe some
other other leagues. So um, you know when you when
you play uh and and that's not to say anything
about a bunch of teams, because you know, there's there's
teams with great I think there's great team speed in
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in in the pack twelve. I think the d line
is I think everybody kind of just says, hey, look,
these these guys don't have those guys. But when you
when you play in Washington, you play Utah, you play
uh USC, you play a bunch of these guys that
that that have time d Lineman and I think you know,
we had one draft at last year, and um, we've
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got our share of good players. I think that Uh,
you know a lot of people just don't get to
see him from from from the east because it's a
little bit later at night. But um, I think football
is has been great and and you know being at
the other places, uh that I was. We played Arizona State,
we played Show a couple of times. We've we've played
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all these teams and and uh and they were all
great games and and but yeah, athletically, Uh, this league
is going to hold up with with any other league.
There isn't a country. Yeah, that was a great game.
And went Rosen I think it was his first start, right,
you guys beat you guys beat Rosen at in College station.
Uh that that was a pretty exciting one back in
and m last thing, what's what should be realistic? Like
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how long does it you? I mean people forget you
really were the guy that got to go in at Houston. Um,
and obviously you know A and MS one, which many
I mean des Francioni's hell of a coach. He tried.
I mean a lot of guys have not lived up
to their expectations, But Arizona is a place where you
gotta build it. I got a legit build if you
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want to be successful for a long term. How long
does that legitimately take, Well, you know, it depends. I
think that we've recruited well this year. I think, uh,
you know, I sat down before game last year and
one commentator said, you know you you realize you're one
of the smallest teams in the country, and I just
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kind of looked at him and tried to be positive.
But we've we've we've recruited well. I think, uh, anybody
who sees us right now at practice, um that can
can see the difference in in personnel and that that
takes maybe a couple of years. But you know, I'm
looking forward this year. We've we've we've got uh some
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some new guys that they're young experience wise, but I
think that they're they're very athletic and and balls get
a bounced the right way. But I like this group.
I like how they're approaching it and uh, you know,
you know me, it's it's uh, it's not a uh
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in this business, you don't wait for five years. You
want to win now. And and the guests that you
are here, the seniors and the guests who came to
school here to play, and our fans and and uh
and everybody in Tucson wants to win down so do I. Yeah, well,
you know, I mean that following that rich Rod Rich
Rod likes some small, small defensive guys at three three five.
That is a hard thing to try and go and
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fix and replace them with that. Of course, I know
that's part of the challenge which you have in Tucson.
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uh and and don't be afraid to hop on a
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I don't like this assumption that everybody has to be
like nodding in agreement and everybody like you can be
on the same page and not be on the on
the same sentence makes sense, be the same page, not
being the same sentence. He here's an example. Aaron Rodgers
is very much his own man, all right, and he
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spoke out earlier in the year, in the off season
about the challenges of a new offense where he doesn't
have complete freedom to do whatever he wants. There's basically
a play and there's two options based upon the defenses,
all right, and there's some other options within the options,
but generally you come to line of scream, read what
they're in, and you know there's an automatic check and
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f Aaron Rodgers, he's always done it where that you
come up with a play, but like, if you don't
like it, you just put in whatever you want. There's
an expression that I use often and it goes like this,
transition is everybody wants to change, but transition is hard.
Change is good, Transition is hard, and they're in the
process of transition Rodgers has said as much. The offense
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has not been balanced or looking for a number two
wide receiver. You know, sometimes it's smooth, sometimes it's not. Defense,
by the way, in Green Bay, looks like it should
be very very good if it stays healthy. But Aaron
Rodgers is buying into it, learning, trying, and eventually I'm
sure be fine. You know why, because he's awesome. But
this idea that you have to agree wholeheartedly with everything
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your head coach says, when, by the way, the head
coach hasn't coached a game in his life, you never
do that. Aaron Rodgers and joint practices at training camps
did so with the Texans the last couple of days.
I wouldn't mind that they didn't do it for another
fourteen years. Matt la Flora on joint practices at training camps. Absolutely,
I want to do this again, see part of the
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Matt Lafleur thing. And I've talked to a lot of coaches.
We've talked to the coaches at both the stops we've
been to, and they're like, look, honestly, it helps us
watch other people coach their teams. But Aaron Rodgers saying
he doesn't like joint practices and Matt lad Floor saying
he loves, he wants love, want to do it again.
They're on the same page. They're just on the same sentence.
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We had Anthony Lynn, their head coach. We had Hunter
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We also had Mike Williams star wide receiver, so we
had a great day at Chargers camp. Are things to
the Chargers and the Rams. Next week I go to Cowboys.
How about them Cowboys? And we'll see if Zeke Elliott
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returns by then, or if Dak or if Marii Cooper
have new contracts by then, So a lot to get to.
Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network and Chargers analyst on
radio will join us in fifteen minutes. We'll talk about
the league and the contract holdouts. Kevin Sumone, a longtime friend,
former Houston head coach, former Texas and m head coach,
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second year as Arizona head coach, what's different about the
PAC twelve and how long before we have the PAC twelve.
Being kind of back in the national landscape, will get
his thoughts, find out if he's got a swag copter
in Tucson. Marty Smith will join us as well. Uh
in the third hour of the show. ESPN reporter has
got his own book, kind of a fascinating a rise
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to rise to prominence in this profession. Plus great hair,
great beard good accent sounds like the South, doesn't He Like,
if I was from the South, I'd want to look
and talk and act exactly like Marty Smith. So yesterday
came it came down that there's a a new n
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c A rule right now in college basketball college basketball.
What I think most people know is that there's a
new rule that was enacted for this past season, this
past year in which college basketball underclassman could talk to
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and actually sign with sign with an NBA agent all
trying to make a decision as to whether or not
they um as to whether or not they wanted to
go to the pros. So this is one year in
to these new rules in terms of timing, and yesterday
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there's a new n c amendment the criteria for agents
angling to represent college basketball players who are just testing
the draft. Waters. Here's the three pre rex you have
to have. You have to have a bachelor's degree, you
have to be certified by the NBA PA for at
least three years, and you must pass in person exam
at the n c A office in Annapolis. Right. So,
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when you think about these three rules immediately, I think,
I think a person who's been around a while been
around sports while understands bachelor's degree. All right, you went
to college and you gotta be a you gotta be
yes or whatever you get. Whatever you got, it's fine.
You must be certified by the NBA PA for at
least three years. We don't want some guy who's just
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getting into the business who hasn't gone to college, who's
you know, A you guy? Now I want to represent
my guy and be an agent advising players. We want
people that are educated in the profession and educated in general.
And you must pass the in personal exam the n
c A office. Why is that so you know what
the rules are. Because the NBA PA rules are different
from the NA rules. And this way you can't say
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I didn't know what was that at the end of
G I Joe cartoons and knowing is half the battle. So,
of course, the most prominent NBA voice on social media
is Lebron James, and he comes out and rips it
and calls it the Rich Paul rule. I looked up
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the definition of of something someone and I thought it
was really really interesting. Okay, so this is the definition
of a of a syndrome. Okay, the personality syndrome. It's
a long term pattern of abnormal behavior characterized by exaggerating
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feelings of self importance and excessive need for admiration and
lack of empathy. Those affected often spends so much time
thinking about achieving power or success or on their appearance,
they often take advantage of people around them. Their behavior
typically begins at early adulthood and occurs throughout a variety
of social situations. Uh huh um. Some of the signs
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or symptoms of such a personality disorder grandiosity with expectations
of superior treatment from other people. Didn't Lebron show up
at a Laker game last year with a goblet of wine?
Did happen? Fixation on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness,
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self perception of being unique, superior associated with the high
status people and institutions. Now, Lebron James is of high status,
all right, But the idea that he's unique, the idea
that all these rules, all these things are about him,
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the need for continual admiration from others. What happened last
week when David Griffin said, you know, look, it was
miserable to work with Lebron to try and win that championship,
And you know Lebron even in his own words, he's
not the animal he used to be about winning. Unwillingness
to emphasize empathy, empathize with the feelings, wishes, needs of
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other people. This is all narcissistic personality disorder. That's what
it is. Like, Hey, look, dude, Lebron, it ain't about you,
it ain't about rich Paul. I know you may feel
like I'm the first athlete of my kind to force
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my way out of a situation. No, actually, you're a
free agent. You signed elsewhere. It's happened before. Shaquille O'Neal
went from the Magic to the Lakers, right, Kareem abdul
Jabbar forced his way from the Bucks the Lakers, Mack.
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You look around the NBA, and this has happened for
years in which players have picked their destination and at
times of power or at times of free agents. In fact,
when Lebron James left Cleveland, he was a free agent.
He didn't even force his way. He didn't do what
others have done. Like, if anything, Paul George is more
the Trailblazer. Paul George signed a MAX contract to stay
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after shunning the Lakers, and a year later walked into
Sam Presty's office and said, I'm done here. Trade me
to the Clippers right now. That's actually the first of
its kind because usually what happens is you're in the
last year of a contract, or maybe, like Anthony Davis,
the last two years of a contract. You've been for
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to a place for a long time. Lebron James left
two franchises, both when he was a free agent and
he was free to do so. Maybe signing the one
year contract is the unique part, but that's about it.
Lebron James thinks he invented barbershop conversation. He actually sued
the University of Alabama because they had a barbershop talk
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TV show. Rob Parker works here at Fox Sports Radio.
He co hosts The Odd Couple, which starts at seven
o'clock Eastern time, four o'clock Pacific. Did you know he
had a barbera barbershop talk show on television? I mean, hey,
can we watch Coming to America? The most famous scenes
(08:57):
are from the Barbershop. There's actually the a movie called
The Barbershop. But Lebron James not only has the fixation
of fantasies of power, success, intelligence, and attractiveness, but he's
a self perception of being unique, superior, high status people.
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You say he doesn't lack empathy. Look, I don't think
anyone should think that Lebron James talking about Taco Tuesday
using a Mexican accent is any sort as any sort
of really negative impact. I don't think it's discriminatory. I
don't think it's racist. It's not a big deal. I
don't actually care. But what you should at least consider is,
(09:44):
imagine if it was Imagine if it was for Lawful
Wednesday and he talked like somebody who is Jewish, right,
imagine if it was Lula Wednesday and they talked like
somebody who was Asian, Or if I did that exact
same voice, how would you feel about it? How do
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you feel about it? Like? Look, we took a Pooh
off of The Simpsons because it was deemed to be
an offensive stereotype of Indian people that they would work
and talk and be on their own Quickie Mark. All right,
(10:27):
But Lebron James thinks that he's superior, can't empathize with others,
doesn't see that the exact same thing. He spends most
of his social media work working against he's actually performing
himself because he has narcissistic personality disorder. Just take a breath,
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look at it for what it is. It's the n
c A going like, hey, here's a low bar. Just
have a degree, be allegit agent for a couple of years.
Come in and meet with us and pass the tests,
you know, the n c A rules, and you can
go and sign and UH signed n c A players
and talk with them about the possibility of them leaving
for the NBA. Rich Paul has lawyers that work for him.
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The fact that rich Paul doesn't have a bachelor's degree
should be a warning sign. I want my agent to
not just have a bachelor's degree. I want a master's
degree and a law degree. And the idea that Lebron
James thinks this is about him, that NBA teams wanted
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to change player movement is about him, that barbershop talk
is about him is classic narcissistic behavior. And some of
that is what allowed him to be an incredible athlete
and have an incredible impact on media, social media and
the places in which he's played. But dude, this ain't
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about Rich Paul. Jeff Goodman, of course, long time I'm
hoops insider, works for Stadium Sports. One NBA guy of
the new n c A rules. The Rich Paul stuff
is silly. He reps like one or two guys per draft,
and as lawyers working for him, they're trying to protect
kids from other clowns. You should see the runner workout
guy uncle types. We get this isn't about Rich Paul,
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but when Lebron James automatically assumes it is, it only
shows Lebron James as narcissistic personality disorder. Be sure to
catch live edition so the Doug Dot Leaps Show week
days at noon eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Hey, I'm Zeke Elliott.
I'm better than Todd Gurley. I'm younger than Todd Gurley,
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but I'm one year removed from when Todd Gurley got
his contract. I want to start. We'll start a negotiations
at Todd Gurley and work up. Here's the Stephen Jones said.
I still think that's within realm. At the same time,
I think the market reach out with Levian. You know,
I think you see what happens with Gurley, how tenuous
it is, and then you get a great player to
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like Levian who's every bit as well thought of as
as Girly, and he had unfettered free agency, had thirty
two teams with no draft picks attached, and the market
was thirteen point five less than Girle. So at the
end of the day, business changes. And uh, we certainly
pay attention to that as well. This is just the
reality of it. This is all real discussion how a
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real transaction occurs in the NFL. You got the Todd
Gurley one, I hear you. That was a year ago.
Since that one Todd Gurley of course didn't finish years strong.
They picked up C. J. Anderson off the street and
he became a dynamic back for them. That heard Levian Bell.
He pointed out, look, Levian Bell is a free agent, Zekiel,
it's not a free agent. Levian Bell could have signed
with any team he wanted, and that there was no
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compensatory picks, none, free free to go where he wants,
and the team that he picks signs him for thirteen
million dollars a year. And oh yeah, by the way,
even that deal didn't sit well with a new head
coach and the gentlemanager was summarily fired. Right, This is
I'm using a comp from a year ago. Hey, down
the street, that house sold for seven seven, seven fifty,
and you know prices go up for to seven percent
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a year at four decem percent to seven fifty, or
at four to seven percent from my value last year,
and we should sell my house for five. And the
realtor comes in and comms, comms and says commany says,
let's listen, that's not how this business works. You don't
just take the top comp since then to have sold
below seven. They have more square footage, same pool, you
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have better side of the street, same school district. The
market has corrected itself. This is where people talk about
football being a business. It is players being a commodity.
They are. And while I would I would make the
argument and be a sound one that Ezeki Elliott is
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a much better all around back than Todd Gurley because
girl's got that gimpe knee. But Todd Gurley has no
off the field issues Zeke Elliott has. Zeke Elliott is
this close to getting another multi game suspension like he's
been a problem now. He's trific football player and their
offense is built around him. So he does have some
leverage in that. Hey, in order for us to be
the best version of ourselves, I need to be involved
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in the offense. He and wrong, But Steven Jones is saying, listen,
we value you, but you're worth what somebody's willing to
pay you. Zeke is worried that the market would correct itself.
He wants to get it done earlier rather than later.
And here's the problem. The market already corrected itself. That
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Levan Bell actually got a flyer. He he got what's
called an angel offer. That's what they call in real estate. Oh,
you got an angel offer. Somebody came in and just
gave you way more than anybody else is willing to pay.
And he took it. He's lucky it hasn't correct itself
even more, and it probably will, you know, from Christian
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McCaffrey and any of these other running backs, don't be
surprised if the market continues to correct itself. Now, Zeke
maybe better than all of them, more of a three
down back and able to be able to block better
and catch better in the backfield like all of these things,
and the off more durable, and the offense is built
around him like all of these things are accurate. But
that's like trying to convince somebody that, no, listen, my
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house is better a better air conditioning, at better windows,
at better doors, and like, look, we basically go by
price per square foot. Be sure to catch live editions.
So the Doug Dot Leap Show weekdays at noon eastern
three pm Pacific. Who knows that better than Kevin Someone,
Arizona's head football coach, Kevin how are you doing great?
How are you doing good? Man? Um? All right, So
what were your when you when you took the job.
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And I was wondering, does he take a year off?
Does he reset? Does he do television? He decided to
take the Arizona job. What were your thought when you
took the job. What was your perspective on what the
Arizona job was gonna be? Like, it's kind of interesting
because I've been out here and um, I mean a
bunch of times. And when Mike Stoops took the job,
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was actually with him in Arizona, I mean at Oklahoma
was gonna come, but then came out here and visited,
visited Rich Rich, came to A and m and so
I've been on here a bunch of times with our president. Uh.
Dr Robbins and Dave Hiki are athletic director, have a
real vision. It's a beautiful campus. It's a beautiful place.
And as I just caught the tail into what you're saying.
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You know, we're a six hour drive from from l A,
from San Diego, from Vegas, uh proximity um to Texas.
So great location, beautiful campus, place to live and and uh,
you know it's a place that has had success before
and there's no reason we can't have success again. Yeah,
(17:44):
I listen. I live in Orange County, which is like
Arizona Central. It's crazy, how many how many years? How
how many years? And it's a it's a it's a
great school. I mean there you can walk, you can
be outside all year, you can walk to the bars.
Bars are all indoor, outdoor like it's a there's a
lot tougher college life even in the Pact twelve than
there are at Arizona. All right. So it's funny because
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I was in San Diego the week weekend before we
went to camp, because we went to camp early, and uh,
it's up at Pacific Beach and there's this Arizona flags
up and down the Beach, and it's like you said,
it's it's Arizona West and between Orange County and in
San Diego. It's it's. Uh, there's a lot of people
that have gone to school here and have allegiance to
to uh this university. Yeah, and it's a legit college town,
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you know, whereas Arizona State has like a hundred thousand students.
But it's a pro sports town as well, so it's
a it's a completely different vibe. So you inherit. Khalil
Tate and his freshman year unbelievable year running the football
a little bit different offense. He seemed to struggle last
year trying to show people he could stay in the
pocket and be a real quarterback. What's what's the real Like? Look,
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you know football wait at a much higher level than
all of us. What what really? Some people don't think so,
but that's a great compliment, Okay. I mean like, look,
you're at Oklahoma, You're at Perdue, You're at Houston, you're
at A and M. Your offenses were never have never
been at at issue? What what was what's the real
analysis of why Khalil Tate wasn't better as as a
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sophomore I think there's a number of reasons that, you know,
and then he's not gonna make excuses, and I'm not
gonna make excuses for him. You know it, Uh A
lot happened, you know, all that happened. Really he played
really six games is that year, and Uh, um just
UH was phenomenal in those six or seven games. UM
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and and really had a tough injury to the second
game last year against Houston, and and UH was never
really right and you know, tried to play through it
as a as a tough guy. UH had so bad.
You know, we went to u c. L A And
and he didn't even he didn't even suit up for
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u c l A And, which was stuff on him
because he's going back home. So you know, I think,
you know, with all those things, and and the thing
that that really put him on the scene is his
speed and his ability to run. You know, with an
ankle injury like he had, it really limited him and
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it limited what we could do with him. But he's
healthy now. I think he learned a lot from last year, Uh,
from just all the hype and and then the injury
and and really, uh with with everything that happened to him,
you know, he it's an experience that I think he'll
tell you in what he what he said at that
packed twelve media days. You know, it's something that uh
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uh he had never experienced. He'd never been hurt, He's
never had to go through anything like that, and it
really brought him to a place where he is right
now where he appreciates everything. It's made him work harder
and he's having a good fall camp. Um J J.
Taylor's you're running back five When you were at old
you did you guys have Quentin Griffin there or that's
before me? Yeah, but we played against him with out
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of the assistant that that at him. Yeah, yeah, he was.
He was pretty good, but that he's like who's who
is he? Because he's tight. He's a lot like him,
and uh, you know it's it's amazing. You know we
talked about, well what we were on offense, we actually
led the pack twelve and rushing last year. Is this
guy ran for fourteen hundred yards and uh just a
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dynamic player and a heck of a kick return guy too.
So uh he's uh, he's he might be little, but
he's pretty good at what he does. He's a little
like like you think I hadn't heard that name in
a long time. A Q and and a little uh
Jones drew kind of kind of guy. So but uh,
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but he's extremely effective, can catch the ball out of
the backfield and and uh, you know, not everybody can
run for fourteen hundred yards in the season. No, no,
you guys go to how are you playing Hawaii? But
you play? You play a week before everybody else plays.
How much like you know, coaches are creatures of habit
is this is this a good thing about? Like what
do you actually think about not just playing uh on
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the road, but to start the season a week before
everybody else. Just let you know, we're on practice eleven tonight.
So we've been we've been at it for a while here.
So it's, uh, we got you know, we got started
early and uh, you know, to get out there. It's
it's gonna be good. But you know, we got a
bye week the next week, which is which is good
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for us as a team because we got a bunch
of new players and uh, some young guys are gonna play,
some junior guys, you know, college guys are gonna play,
and and uh, you know, for us to get started
early this year has been I think it's been great,
you know, just because you know, with a tough year
last year and really um, for for me as a coach,
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and and for a lot of coaches that have been
with me. You know, not having postseason play was was tough.
And you know, the sooner we could get started back
to to to practicing football and being with our team, uh,
the better. And Uh it's a little bit different season
for us this year. We've got three different by weeks.
Last year, I think we were one of only a
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couple of teams that went ten straight weeks in a row.
Plan So h injuries, right, I mean yeah, yeah, and
and so that made it tough. But but now, um,
I think you know, after going through last year and
being where everything that happened, Um, I think the season
this even with the schedule and the travel that we
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have and and and the teams that we're gonna play
from the North, Um, I think the schedule is favorable
for us. What about the Pack twelve is different from
you know, like the Southwest. I guess what I would
call were you you mostly coached? Right? What? What what
is so? I mean? And look, look obviously coached in
the Southeast in the SEC, but and m obviously being
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in collegetation. What in terms of style, uh, players, like,
what what's different from your perspective on the sidelines or
the Big Ten with eleven o'clock games. We don't have
any of those out here. Yeah, I want to ask
about that all the games in a second. Yeah, No,
it's you know, you're you're it's it's you're playing at night. Um.
It's a little bit different than than uh, you know,
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in the Big Ten as assistant coach or even the player.
You know, you get up and play and and you're
back home and watching everybody else at four and I
think you know, in the in the SEC, and and
and some of those places. I mean in in Houston, Uh,
you know, the primetime game is two thirty, um, you know,
and we're playing night games here in the in the West,
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and so it's just a little bit different. Like I
like the night games. I don't know. It must be
hard to sit around all day, you know. For the
for the fans, it's it's great. I think, you know,
you get the guys get they get tuned up all
day and and and we got great students support here
and and and uh, you know, but you sit around
the hotel all day and and you know, sometimes uh,
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I used to worry about we get guys out of
the hotel room and in the SEC because didn't want
to watch game day and see who the game was on.
You know, this guy's gotta do this, this guy's gotta
do that. So we'd have walkthroughs and things like that.
But even by the time we eat breakfast and started meeting,
game days off and and and there's a bunch of
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games on that here at the at the nine ten o'clock,
So just a little bit different. I meant more like
personnel wise, right, like, you know, it seems like big ten.
And I know there's some they've they've done a good
job of recruiting a little bit better athletes on the
on the but it seems like, you know, the lines,
it's a little bit a little bit more old school football,
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a little bit you know, Bigger's kind of stirred your
you know, linebacks. Where's you know, Big twelve obviously wide open,
great wide receivers, unbelievable quarterbacks, um. And then the sec
that the defensive lines seem to be just different and
better that the level of the depth of athletes and
the defensive side of the football UM to match the
offense as well. It seems to be better. I'm just
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wondering what the PAC twelve is like. From a guy
who's been around the country and coach out the place,
I would say this. I think the speed is is
comparable to anybody you know. And and uh athleticism I think, uh,
I think you're right about you know, defensive fronts in
the SEC. That's that's pretty obvious. UM. But there's been
some great quarterbacks in this league too. UM. And and
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I think diversity in the offense UH gives you a
little bit different look, uh than than than maybe some
other other leagues. So um, you know when you when
you play uh and and that's not to say anything
about a bunch of teams, because you know, there's there's
teams with great I think there's great team speed in
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in in the pack twelve. I think the d line
is I think everybody kind of just says, hey, look,
these these guys don't have those guys. But when you
when you play in Washington, you play Utah, you play
uh USC, you play a bunch of these guys that
that that have time d Lineman and I think you know,
we had one draft at last year, and um, we've
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got our share of good players. I think that Uh,
you know a lot of people just don't get to
see him from from from the east because it's a
little bit later at night. But um, I think football
is has been great and and you know being at
the other places, uh that I was. We played Arizona State,
we played Show a couple of times. We've we've played
(27:26):
all these teams and and uh and they were all
great games and and but yeah, athletically, Uh, this league
is going to hold up with with any other league.
There isn't a country. Yeah, that was a great game.
And went Rosen I think it was his first start, right,
you guys beat you guys beat Rosen at in College station.
Uh that that was a pretty exciting one back in
and m last thing, what's what should be realistic? Like
(27:51):
how long does it you? I mean people forget you
really were the guy that got to go in at Houston. Um,
and obviously you know A and MS one, which many
I mean des Francioni's hell of a coach. He tried.
I mean a lot of guys have not lived up
to their expectations, But Arizona is a place where you
gotta build it. I got a legit build if you
(28:11):
want to be successful for a long term. How long
does that legitimately take, Well, you know, it depends. I
think that we've recruited well this year. I think, uh,
you know, I sat down before game last year and
one commentator said, you know you you realize you're one
of the smallest teams in the country, and I just
(28:31):
kind of looked at him and tried to be positive.
But we've we've we've recruited well. I think, uh, anybody
who sees us right now at practice, um that can
can see the difference in in personnel and that that
takes maybe a couple of years. But you know, I'm
looking forward this year. We've we've we've got uh some
(28:52):
some new guys that they're young experience wise, but I
think that they're they're very athletic and and balls get
a bounced the right way. But I like this group.
I like how they're approaching it and uh, you know,
you know me, it's it's uh, it's not a uh
(29:14):
in this business, you don't wait for five years. You
want to win now. And and the guests that you
are here, the seniors and the guests who came to
school here to play, and our fans and and uh
and everybody in Tucson wants to win down so do I. Yeah, well,
you know, I mean that following that rich Rod Rich
Rod likes some small, small defensive guys at three three five.
That is a hard thing to try and go and
(29:34):
fix and replace them with that. Of course, I know
that's part of the challenge which you have in Tucson.
We listen Kevin Say travels to Honolulu. If you're staying
in y ki Ki, I recommend to Everybody's High Steakhouse,
h y Possiblys Steakhouse, Tablemaid, Caesar Salad. The steaks are unbelievable.
You don't take your whole team, just take you your
wife and your friends. You know a good man and
(29:56):
uh and and don't be afraid to hop on a
board while you're there. I mean it is Hawaii, and
bring and bring him win. Thanks so much for joining us,
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(30:18):
I don't like this assumption that everybody has to be
like nodding in agreement and everybody like you can be
on the same page and not be on the on
the same sentence makes sense, be the same page, not
being the same sentence. He here's an example. Aaron Rodgers
is very much his own man, all right, and he
(30:41):
spoke out earlier in the year, in the off season
about the challenges of a new offense where he doesn't
have complete freedom to do whatever he wants. There's basically
a play and there's two options based upon the defenses,
all right, and there's some other options within the options,
but generally you come to line of scream, read what
they're in, and you know there's an automatic check and
(31:04):
f Aaron Rodgers, he's always done it where that you
come up with a play, but like, if you don't
like it, you just put in whatever you want. There's
an expression that I use often and it goes like this,
transition is everybody wants to change, but transition is hard.
Change is good, Transition is hard, and they're in the
process of transition Rodgers has said as much. The offense
(31:24):
has not been balanced or looking for a number two
wide receiver. You know, sometimes it's smooth, sometimes it's not. Defense,
by the way, in Green Bay, looks like it should
be very very good if it stays healthy. But Aaron
Rodgers is buying into it, learning, trying, and eventually I'm
sure be fine. You know why, because he's awesome. But
this idea that you have to agree wholeheartedly with everything
(31:46):
your head coach says, when, by the way, the head
coach hasn't coached a game in his life, you never
do that. Aaron Rodgers and joint practices at training camps
did so with the Texans the last couple of days.
I wouldn't mind that they didn't do it for another
fourteen years. Matt la Flora on joint practices at training camps. Absolutely,
I want to do this again, see part of the
(32:07):
Matt Lafleur thing. And I've talked to a lot of coaches.
We've talked to the coaches at both the stops we've
been to, and they're like, look, honestly, it helps us
watch other people coach their teams. But Aaron Rodgers saying
he doesn't like joint practices and Matt lad Floor saying
he loves, he wants love, want to do it again.
They're on the same page. They're just on the same sentence.
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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