November 22, 2019 • 46 mins
Doug puts the 2019 Colts among the greatest “what if” teams in the history of sports. He also tells you why the Packers getting a win over the 49ers on Sunday could change everything for Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers. Plus, Doug talks to former NFL Scout John Middlekauff about the Patriots vs Cowboys and all the biggest games of week 12 in the NFL.
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We treat you like you'd treat you. I hope you're
doing great. It's a beautiful day in sunny southern California.
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And if you watch this on Instagram or on our
digital feed. I am wearing a shirt um my boys.
At nine I saw they put this out to Jacksonville
Dolphins T shirt jackson Old Dolphins. My dad in the
mid seventies, nine seventy three through nineteen seventy five was
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the head coach of JU Jacksonville University. So I saw
this shirt and I was like, hey man, can I
get one of those? I get two of those one
from me, one for my brother. They sent it to me,
and today's November is the fifth anniversary of my dad's passing. UM.
Today's show is obviously about sports. We'll talk about the
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Colts and they're close loss yesterday last night. We'll talk
about the Packers, the Cowboys, the Patriots, the Eagles, maybe
a little bit about there. He is about upcoming quarterbacks
and outgoing quarterbacks. Um, but I would physically not be
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here today if not from my father, and literally not
be here as well as theoretically not be here. My
dad was a basketball coach but a huge sports fan.
In the early days of sports radio in Southern California,
he was my au coach. We used to drive all
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around Southern California, picking kids up going to practice, taking
them home, and we would listen to Ley Hawk, Saw
Hamilton's I Want to Talk Sports with You, pow Way
and Escondido give me a call. We would read three
or four newspapers USA Today, l A Times, Orange County Edition,
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Orange Counton Register, and for a short time, the greatest
sports newspaper ever, the National Sports Daily. You gotta be
old school, remember the National Man Diday collection was basically
the athletic in print form, and we'd pass them around
and talk about sports and talk about have opinions on
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things that we might have known and probably knew nothing about.
And one of the things that sports fans talk about
is the big what if. Right five years ago, my
dad passed seventeen years ago. Seventeen years ago, my dad
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had an exhibition team. These teams used to travel around
the country and play against the Vision One schools. We
had season tickets to u c l A basketball for
at least a decade, if not more. My brother and
sister went there. My dad was close to the coaching
staff and um I decided to turn down a scholarship
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for u c l A to go to Notre Dame.
When I left Notre Dame, I did, in fact wanted
I did want to go back and play at u
c l A. And they smartly recruited Baron Davis over
me and Baron Day. This is an unbelievable player. I
can't really argue with that. So seventeen years ago, my
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Branch West exhibition team beat U c l A. At
the time, this is November two thousand two. At the time,
it was the worst home loss in the history of
u c l A. At Polly Pavilion Building was like
fifty years old. We smacked him. My dad was the
coach and I was the player, and when we walked
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off the floor, it was an unbelievable moment to share
with your father. My dad had been a head coach
at Jacksonville, w Milwaukee and assistant Kansas State and assistant
Oregon State and assistant Long Beach State. That brought us
out here for a long time. Um, there was some
flirtations with Walt Hazard, who was the coach, and then
Jim Herrick about maybe joining his staff because he did
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have a really good au program to land players. He
was a recruiter, He's a basketball coach, and I'm sure
that he walked off that court thinking what if? What
if I had ever gotten one of these jobs? What
if I had been on staff here at u c
l A. And of course, even though my career at
Oklahom State worked out great, got my degree, played in
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three n c A termans, played for legendary coach. I'm
now on the board of Governors. I met my wife there,
I have so many friends there. It is the what if,
all right, what if I had gone to u c
l A and warn the Blue and Gold. How would
my life be different? Would I be in the NBA
instead of playing some exhibition tour against U c l
A And Wichita State and lamar Right? What if is
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not just a big part of life? What if is
a part of sports? Aren't the Colts team? What if? Alright?
I'm watching last night and sure Adam vin Terry appears
to be past his prime. He's cost them a couple
of games, charge of games start the year. He blew
the game, probably three games this year they would have
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could have one if their kicker wasn't a fossil. He's
a great all time kicker, but he's over the hill.
It's the only possible explanation for how a great all
time kicker can become so erratic. But the biggest what
if is what if Andre re luctant retire? Right? Like
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this show became the center of the Andrew Luck retiring story.
But what's lost in the Andrew Luck retiring story is
he probably left the Super Bowl team. They got a young, fast, defense,
they got some talented wide receivers, a talented tight end,
they got a running game, They have an awesome offensive line,
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that's been rebuilt to protect him and think about and
that's not bad. He's not terrible. He's just not great.
I Mean, look at these offensive numbers, which to Cobe
Bridge set and Brian Hoyer their third and rushing, eighth
in third down conversion, fourth in time possession on offense,
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seventh in red zone scoring offense, and the all time
what ifs, all time what ifs I give you the
Annapolis Colts. The Colts this year are the Patriots. What
was the year that Tom Brady was hurt? Two thoight, Like,
here's a part of the Tom Brady story, which I
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feel like I'm the only one who tells you. And
when they go back and think, you know, they do
the football life this week in the football life, they'll
talk about there was a decade where Tom Brady didn't
win a Super Bowl, but part of that decade they
went to a Super Bowl against the Giants sixteen O
two and oh in the playoffs eight teen no total.
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The very next year with a team that had set
all time records, quarterback that had thrown fifty touchdown passes.
Randy Moss in his prime, Tom Brady in his prime,
an elite level defense that had been through and shredded
the entire league. They still went eleven and five without
Brady the two eight January two nine Patriots. We're at
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all time? What if team before this Indianapolis Colts all
the time? Wif team you go eleven and five with
Matt Castle as your quarterback? What would you do with
Tom Brady's your quarterback? A young Tom Brady in his prime,
fresh off of throwing fifty touchdown passes and getting to
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a Super Bowl. So I remember, man, I remember so
many different things about life with my father playing for him,
the things that he taught us, the challenges that he
laid down to live up to and exceed your potential.
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He was somebody who was an interesting and complex dude. Um,
But I can tell you that there's nothing like having
somebody who above all else believes in you and believes
in your talent. It's a special thing to have. And
it wasn't. I didn't believe just because I was his son,
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Although I'm sure there's some of it. Now, there's the
downside to that, right and everybody, and I'm sure any
of you who didn't have a dad, or don't have
a mom, or don't have somebody who is your advocate,
who believes in you above all else. You're sitting there
going like, man, what a blessing, And it was. There's
also the curse to it, which is trying to live
up to that. And now when he's gone, figuring out
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have I lived up to his expectations? And is it
a bad thing to have lofty goals and lofty expectations? Right?
Some people think, well, your dad thinking you're the greatest,
that's everybody's dead. No, he really didn't think he believed
he knew. But today's show, though completely about sports, we've
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lost your dad. Your dad is sick, your dad as well.
Let me just encourage you. Let me share with you
from the guy who has lived it. My dad was
not well. He had cancer and had spread to his brain.
They had they had stopped the treatments because once it
spreads to your brain, they have to stop the clinical treatments.
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We were on our way a day. A day later,
we were supposed to leave and come stay with them
for Thanksgiving, me and my brother, my sister, all our
kids coming down, and we got a call that he
had suffered a brain bleed and we I immediately flew
out he never regained consciousness, but we were there holding
his hand when they turned off the turned off the plus. Really, really,
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you know, it's the hardest thing you ever gonna do
in your life. So what I tell friends, and I
will tell you now is don't be afraid during this
holiday season. Forget about telling your parents or telling your
loved one that you love them. Tell them why you
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love them, what specifically about them that makes you think
of them fondly, because I know you love them. When
you hate them, then you love them. But it's the
special things about you and you and you and me
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that resonate with people. And if you don't share those things,
maybe they don't know if those things resonated or what
about you resonates. I'd love to have one more conversation,
So if you have it this holiday season, whatever bygones are,
make them bygones. Whoever hatchets bury them, because five years later,
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when they're gone, they're still gone. You can talk to them,
you can feel them. That can be a part of
every day and everything you do or nothing that you do.
But what you can't do is pick up the phone
and call them. What you can't do is see them
and discuss things, and discuss life, and discuss what you
what you think of them in person. I had a
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shot a couple of years later my uncle who has
since passed, and I took my own advice and my
heart feels clear because of it. So I'm not going
to go into super sad Gottly mode. I will only
point out that on a daylight today, let me share
with you my feelings and my thoughts on my father,
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who I missed very much today. And one, it's that
there's nothing like a person who completely and totally believes
in you and pushes you, but pushes you because they
think you have something special inside of you. And two,
spend those special moments over this holiday season telling people
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how and why you feel about them. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays
at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio A app. Do you
like to Aaron Rodgers persona? Because I have a feeling
that this is the ultimate Aaron Rodgers Sunday. Um, there
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are there are some games in the NFL which will
rate and everyone will watch and we'll be fascinated by
and my expectations are to be played at a much
higher level than other regular season games. The Sunday Night
game was supposed to be Seattle Philadelphia. That's Russell Wilson.
Philadelphia is a Super Bowl champion two years ago. Carson
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Wentz would have been the m v P in that year.
Those are big name, big mark. That's a big market
in Philadelphia. Green Bay not a big market, but kind
of there. One b to America's team, which is the Cowboys.
They rate against the Niners. Huge name that was flexed
out or flexed in. Aaron Rodgers is from northern California.
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Aaron Rodgers grew up a Niners fan. Aaron Rodgers emulated
and loved Joe Montana and the Niners had the number
one overall pick when Aaron Rodgers was coming out of
cal and they took Alex Smith instead, and Alex Smith
eventually led them to an NFECY Championship game. If not
for two fumbles on special teams, could have led them
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to a Super Bowl. But there's a ceiling there with
Alex Smith and eventually they moved on for Colin Kaepernick. Meanwhile,
Aaron Rodgers had to sit there in the green room
till the four pick go to Green Bay where Brett
Farve didn't want him there and he didn't play his
first three years there. And now with one of his
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best teams he's ever had, he has a chance to
go into San Francisco and not just get a win.
And think about this when a win on the road
and the Packers would be the number one seed in
the NFC. Head to head wins over the Niners, also
a tiebreaker over the Saints. The Packers believe or not
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have the best strength of victory out of all the
current playoff teams. Second the NFL, by the way, the
Browns are number one. That's because the Browns beat the Ravens.
That was a big win that the Brown's head and
beating the Ravens and the Steelers also Sunday Night football.
And I've said this, but I'd like screaming into the wind.
I get Lamar Jackson's probably gonna win the m v P,
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but it's not because he's actually the m v P.
Lamar Jacksons played good football. Good hasn't played better football
than Aaron Rodgers, who has seventeen touchdowns and two interceptions.
Nine touchdowns and no interceptions, his last four games, completing
nearly seventy of his passes and eight point eight yards
per tempt. He's not dinking and dunking and Sam Bradford
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it where you just get rid of it on a
one step drop. No, no, no, He's still Aaron Rodgers.
He's just crazy good Aaron Rodgers. Oh, and for the
most part, he was doing it without his best pass
catching threat. I know that the media and fans love
Lamar Jackson, and I think a good portion of why
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they love Lamar Jackson we do. We like like the option,
it's fun, we love the college style. It's fun. But
also it's There was enough people saying hand of Lamar
Jackson's quarterback long term in the NFL to where somehow
validating it by the m V peak becomes more important
than who's actually the best quarterback and having the best season.
Pat Mahomes is having a better year. Yes, he missed
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three games, but he's having a better year. He's more
impactful throughout the entirety of the season. Russell Wilson's having
a better year. And Aaron Rodgers is definitely having a
bed year in a better year. And if you want
to talk about wins and losses like, yeah, look, Lamar
Jackson does have uh one less win and one more loss.
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Lamar Jackson also has run the benefit of playing the Bengals,
who suck twice. I don't use the word suck very often.
I don't think it's a very nice thing to say.
I tell my kids not to say it. Some teams
stink and some teams suck. The Cincinnati Bengals suck. They're terrible,
and he's beating the Miami Dolphins also s word. Arizona
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Cardinals second week of the season s word. Meanwhile, Packers
have played a difficult schedule, number two in strength of wins,
and if they win, they're the number one seed in
the NFC, And that would be a road win over
the San Francisco forty Diners, who just so happened to
be the franchise he wanted to play for in the
city that he wanted to play. Doing so with the
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Green Bay Packers the first year head coach. One win
would change everything, because we start to go, hey, you know,
Aaron Rodgers might actually be better than Lamar Jackson this year.
Of course he is even Aaron Rodger. We're not even
paying attention to the fact that he's trying to promote
Aaron Jones as the m v P is like, Nah,
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I'm good. Nobody thinks Aaron Jones is the m v P.
Twelves the m v P. It's the best quarterback in football.
He finally got a bit of a defense. Is the
defense great? No, it doesn't have to be great because
you have Aaron freaking Rodgers. Is the the offense is working?
Is the offense great? No, you don't have to be great.
You've got Aaron freaking Rodgers. But when the offense is
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good and well thought out and challenging to him and
challenging the defenses, And when the defense is good, did
that'd be great and challenging to others? Now of a sudden,
you give your chance self a chance to win the
whole thing. Be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Leap Show weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific.
Let's bring in John Middlecoff. Three Out is the podcast,
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of course, part of the HERD podcast network. He has
three Now I have All Ball. His is all football Minds,
All Basketball Minds. A conversation this week with Andy Kennedy.
What is the what's the big topic this week for you.
Uh well, I actually went pretty in on this l
A relocation, that article that came out yesterday, and just
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you know what a debacle this whole situation is. I mean,
these guys that made the decisions don't have a great
feel for California, you know. I mean the majority of
power brokers in the NFL or Northeast guys and then
Jerry Jones, now they come out here and hang out,
but they don't kind of understand the ethos of the
way we're wired. I mean, you're from California, I'm from California.
They're just a different type mindset and they I understand
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why they wanted a team in l A. I mean,
there's too many people not to have a team there,
but rushing two teams there the way it was handled.
The debacle now of this cronky Dean relationship where I've
been told by people in league they don't even talk.
It's just it's it's a disastrous situation with a ton
of money on the line. And you know it's not
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just the Chargers, just the Rams. I mean I felt
it last week watching the Sunday Night Doug game. Doug,
you could feel like, this is not Chicago. They don't
celebrate defense. So when it's seventeen to twelve, like no one,
that's not a fun game for people in Los Angeles.
It felt like a Bears home game. I don't know, man,
I just it's not trending in the right direction. Well,
there's there's a bunch to it. And I'm actually kind
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of glad you brought up because we haven't really talked
about it. Um, I can just tell you, and I
haven't lived here my entire professional life, right like, I
I was here for two years they moved back, But
I know my family has lived here. I grew up
and so I was here when they left. Then when
you when you grow up here, you know the way
people are watching, right And when I grew up here,
when the Rams left, it wasn't that big a deal.
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It wasn't when the Raiders left, it was it was
it was a pretty big thing, but not a huge
thing because they never they never fixed the Colosseum like
they promised they fixed the Colosseum. And the reason they
hadn't fixed the Coloseum was it wasn't like any it
wasn't that big a thing, right, Like, it just wasn't
It was just another thing to have. It was a
embarrassment of riches. And if you remember when the Rams
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and Raiders left, that was back when they had blackouts
and you couldn't watch another game in your home market
outside of the home team, and you can only watch
that game was sold out. And so when they both left,
all of a sudden, we got to watch any game
we wanted. You'd have two games on at once and
you didn't have to worry. We don't have Oh man,
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we gotta watch the Rams again. They suck. I hate
watching that, right, So you got to watch any game
you wanted. So people still like the NFL. They just
had no affinity for any team outside of probably the Raiders, right,
And the Raiders that's just also be honest, it's very
Hispanic and African American fan base, and you know that
that's that's not They don't sell the boxes, right, the
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Rams them, they don't make any money, right, I mean
that was That's the whole thing is. My sister used
to be second in charge of marketing with the Raiders,
and she's like, look, we have loyal fans, they just
don't have any money like the Niners. Have the money. Now,
the Niners screwed themselves because they moved down to closer
to Silicon Valley, right, But they left all San Francisco behind.
They got their own problems to worry about. But I
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I do think you're right. It's classic that like, well,
they did studies to people like the NFL, like, yeah,
do we want a team? Like I guess you know.
And then here's a big one with the Chargers. I
think the Chargers are the Geno Smith of NFL franchises.
And here's why. Okay, I believe that the Giants then
knew they were they were doing the right thing pulling ELI.
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When they pulled ELI. The problem was there was such
negativity regarding Geno Smith in New York. If you started
anybody in the world instead of ELI, other than Gino Smith,
you'd be fine. You start Gino Smith. Like Geno Smith,
I hate him. You putting the Chargers in Carson, which
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is prime, prime real estate for Raiders fans. O. Hey,
it's not just you put any team. You put a
team that doesn't have a winning reputation, has the reputation
of being cheap. And oh yeah, by the way, is
the rival of the team that you actually like, like
you set yourself off in a negative spot to begin with. Well,
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I also think I went to cal Poli. So I
went to school with a lot of guys from San Diego,
which which cal Pol. There's there's two Pomona, San Louis, Obispo.
So it was kind of cut in half. What years
of northern California half southern California in the mid two thousands, like, oh,
three to eight. That's that's a good living right there
by the way. Yeah, it didn't suck. And then I
went to Firestone. Firestone Grill is amazing. It's the best
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best right tip in America. And listen, I understand San
Diego is never gonna be like have the fervor of
Dallas or Philly or whatever. But I never met one
person from San Diego that wasn't really locked in on
the Chargers. And I understand the corporate money is a
little different, but I think they could have done it,
and clearly Dean, you know, listen, he inherited the team
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from his grandpa. My dad was a farmer. His his
family in the Central Valley was viewed in high reverence
right from a business standpoint. His grandparents' dad, and I
get Deans really conservative, but he would have had to
extend himself. I do think it would have been capable
in San Diego, probably had to do a little smaller stadium,
but they had they had a niche thing going and
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like you said that they're forcing this and whenever you like,
he's paying one dollar in rent Stam's paying for everything.
So if you're I mean, he should have just accepted
to pay maybe fifteen to twenty like a going rate
for rent. So there wasn't this animosity from the guy
that's paying for everything. Like, to me, the thing's destined
to fail the way they set it up economically, and
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then when you factor in, like you said, location, the
fan base, it's it's a disaster. Well, my issues with
San Diego residents who stupidly because of politics at the time,
Remember they had a they had a creepy mayor. You know,
they had a bunch of bad mayors, and you know
the way California is, they never gonna vote for pack stuff.
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I mean, they're just but but it wasn't. But it
wasn't tax dollars. It was coming from rental cars, which
if you live in San Diego. You're not renting a car.
It was the dumbest thing ever for everybody, every tourist.
And they lost the Final Four, they lost the Super Bowl,
they lost the College Football Playoffs. It's gonna be domed,
it's gonna be pert it's gonna be everything they're getting
in l A And and they lost it. So I
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don't have sympathy for San Diego, but it doesn't mean
that it's the right place for the Chargers or for
the Rams. But you're you're right, the Rams gotta pass.
Their games are like home games for the visiting team too. Anyway,
John Middlcoff joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show. What
about the Rams? Can they be the team that solves
the puzzle of Lamar Jackson? Uh? You know, I think
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you need team speed a linebacker, and that's not really
their thing. Now. They've got some really good defensive lineman
and Jalen Ramsey will tackle in the run game, So
any of those runs that are going outside of the
tackle to Jalen side that that helps a lot, you know,
the Monday night game. Yeah, I think that plays a
little bit of factor. Long travel for Baltimore. Uh, I
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would lean you know, are the Are the Ravens really
gonna go fourteen in two? Like they're bound to lose
some games? This would be the type game I guess
you would just circle as Yeah, this is kind of hard.
My question, though, is the Ravens defense has been playing
a lot better, and Jared's been a disaster because he's
much more like the old school Rivers Eli those type
quarters you can't move, so if you can't block for him,
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it's it's over. You have no offense. And Gurley shown
some signs of life. But the Ravens, who kind of
felt like an offensive team all year, if you kind
of looked the last couple of weeks, I mean, their
defense is flying around and making plays, especially that front
they have I forget the guy's name, but a front
pass rush who is playing really well, Judah something. And
I just think that that that's a matchup that's not
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really conducive for the Rams. Is offensively, how are they
going to score up points? Doug Gotlive show here on
Fox Sports Radio. That's the voice of John Middlecoff, former
NFL scout. Check out his Three and Out podcasts, which
of course covers the entire National Football League. It is
interesting that the that the Ravens defense, Ravens running game,
Ravens kicking game, um is all spectacular. It reminds me,
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reminds me of Tebow time. Obviously he's better than Tebow.
He's more like Mike Vick without the off the field
non sense. Right. And by the way, it's Matthew Judon
is uh is the is the yeah week weak side linebacker?
Another grade fine Grand Valley State. I don't know if
you scouted Grand Valley Skate's that's in Michigan. I think
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Upper up in in Michigan. Anyway, Matthew Judon is the
one who they're They're a d D two power at
the east of When I went to I grew up
in Davis and when you see Davis was Division two.
That was always the team they were trying to be. Uh,
let's get is the Patriots. Do they have the skill
position players to win this thing? Did you see right
before I got on with you, I guess rap sheet?
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You know they put out their injury report. Tom Brady's questionable.
You know, obviously with Tom Brady's injuries, I don't pay
much attention when he's on the injury report. But the questionable.
Is something to kind of keep an eye on. I mean,
that's not that's not nothing. I don't know if he
heard his elbow. He is forty two years old, so
you know, a nick can become an injury pretty fast.
The skill guys, I love nikkil Harry coming out of college,
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but anytime in that offense for young players, it's pretty
historically very challenging. And then he misses the majority of
the season. I think last week was the first week back,
or maybe it was two weeks ago. It's just gonna
be a transition there, depending on Jacobe Myers. It's an
undrafted free agent Julian Edelman, who's just a who's one
of my favorite players of this generation. But he can
only do so much. I mean, hell last week through
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the game winning touchdown path, but even he's banged up.
Not having Gronkowski, the running backs have been a little questionable.
But one thing stood after me last week Doug watching
the Eagle game, was the Eagles were getting after Tom.
You know, it kind of felt like one of those
Super Bowls where Tom's just getting peppered over and over
and he doesn't like that. And if you can rush
the passer on him. You can throw them off in
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DeMarcus Lawrence, Michael Bennett. I mean they do have some
path rushed. I mean, Lawrence is a star. So if
you if you can get after him a little bit
up front, Tom and they get down. That was the
other thing they were down in the Philly game where
they can't just dink and dunk all game and just
run out the clock. They kind of had to push
the ball down the field. And it's hard when there's
a reason that the story came out this week. They're
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probably kicking the tires again on Antonio Brown. Their receivers
are just in shambles. Yeah, which which always said? Which
you know? And then of course there's another story I
know that never happened. My guess is somebody said, what
about it Jonio Brown? Like he's up pain in the ass,
Like all right, moving on, he can't play, um that is, Hey,
what happened in Atlanta Falcons. Well, they pulled the names
out of a hat and they all coaching different positions.
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They basically did the tin cup. They took all their
change in one pocket, put it through the other pocket,
and it damned it works. Yeah, you know, no one
ever doubted like they're the Dolphins talent wise. I mean,
they do have the players everywhere that every team in
the NFL would take. Uh. I think they were such
a head scratching team because a lot of people in
the NFL respect and Quinn. They've been a consistent winner,
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you know, in his time, and just to lose all
those games that sometimes just bye week. The team's got
a little pride again. They have a lot of talent. Uh.
What I had thought is maybe they just, you know,
every coach's run comes to an end. Somems are twenty
five years, some are five years whatever. Maybe they had
tuned him out. But whatever he did that a little
like you said, the change move, it's worked because they
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haven't they haven't just looked good. They they've kind of
been kicking ask and taking names. That was a game
the Niners are about to go on this crazy stretch.
Packers rape in Saints Ram Seattle and the Falcons are
thrown in there and everyone's like, oh, that's an easy win.
It's like, I don't know about bad anymore. I mean,
you could say they're the hottes team in the league.
They just it's one thing to get two wins over
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the Dolphins and the Bengals. They got two wins over
the Saints on the road and the Panthers on the road.
Nominated and and and there were no doubters, no doubters.
Uh did you feel like me? And you can disagree?
Did you feel like me? Watch the Colts last night
and go, man, what could have been? This team? Obviously
their kicker away from being a lock playoff team. But
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if they have Andrew Luck he left the Super Bowl team,
I feel like this is the O eight Patriots. Hey,
what could have been? Team? Yah? Super Bowl might be
a little strong, but I'm watching the game last night
and really them all season thinking, this feels like Andrew
lux VCS Stanford. Team physical upfront, you can throw in
any running back and shove it down your throat. I
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mean Ty was bad last night, but he's been He's
a really good player, Eric Ebron and defensively they're just solid.
I mean it took. The Texans are like a basketball team.
They got two stars and then a bunch of other
randoms and they just make plays and I don't you
know they're not They feel they've got twelve men on
the field. Deshawn's run around for his life. They're gonna
end up with probably ten or eleven wins just on talents,
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just because there are a couple of high end guys
are elait, But I don't watch them thinking they're any good.
I watched the Colts much more button down operation. Yeah,
I mean Jacoby's numbers. I thought he played better than
the than the box score looked. Uh could they? You know?
I do think they're probably a skilled guy away to
go along with t Y and Ebron to really make
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hay when it comes to beating the Chiefs, beating the Ravens,
beating the Patriots in the playoffs. But clearly the coach
uh is really good. And just from an outsider's view,
I respect and really kind of admire what Ballard the
type players he acquires like. They don't have many sexy guys,
but they just okay, you want to get into a
four quarter brawl and just will play, you know, in
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the in the high teams, low twenties, let's go, And
that's They're gonna be even better next year. I think
a lot of Colts fans a little spoiled because they
went from manning the luck. I mean, they don't like
Jacoby or you know clearly he's not those guys. But
one more draft and one more off season, to me,
they could be a team next year that could be
really scary. I still think, Doug, they probably sneak in
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the playoffs. Would you look at their schedule? Nine wins
might get you that six seed depending on you know,
the Raiders kind of a swing game this week. If
they were to lose the Jets, they'd be in trouble.
They win this week, you might be like, well, they
might be the sixth seed. They also in the tiebreaker
over the Colt. So that's the team to keep an
eye on. Let me let me ask you about that. Uh.
Niners Packers game Garoppolo leven touchdowns, four inceptions the last
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four games. We're like, wow, that's really good. Then you
look at at Aaron Rodgers last four games, nine touchdowns,
no interceptions, and they have a legit running game now
with Aaron Jones. And that's apparently the way to beat
the Niners is you gotta run the football at their
vaunted defensive line. Niners a little bit banged up right
breed just got the yankle, Emmanuel Sanders got the ribs.
Deebo Samuel's got the shoulder, George Kittle got the knee
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and ankle injury. Um and and Joe Staley, I don't
think he practiced. Going back to yesterday and my crazy
this this is a win. The Packers win it. They
got the number one seed in the NFC. Plus you
know Aaron Rodgers wants to kick their asks for not
drafting him. Feels like the Packers go in there and
get a win. Yeah to me, whoever wins this game
is gonna end up with a bye. Uh. The debo.
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Kittle and Emmanuel Sanders were at practice today practicing. Now
they had blue jerseys on non contact, not like there's
much contact going kills playing debo is gonna play Emmanuel
Sanders a little up in the air. I don't know.
I've been to a couple of Niner games this year.
The atmosphere has been the best since Levi's obviously because
they're winning. But the Packers travel as well as any team,
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you know, obviously Aaron Rodgers. I don't know if it's
gonna play that big of a role in this game.
Even the Niners once upon a time passed on them.
But the Niners that used to wonder Harbaugh kind of
own the Packers. Those Packer teams were little one sided.
I mean, Clay Matthews was really good, but their defense
had a lot of question marks. The Packers defense they
added so Darius and Preston Smith. Those guys have combined
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for almost twenty sacks and dominated up front. There are
two corners, Kevin King and Jaire Alexander have been really good,
So that to me, defensively is kind of where they've
come in. Now, like, how is Jimmy gonna throw it
on these guys? The forty Niners receivers drop every other
past Now Kittle coming back. Kittle is the best plot,
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but best player, and honestly it might not even be
that close. I mean, he's one of the best players
in the league, so having him him back changes their offense.
But yeah, I mean, if if I close my eyes
and envision just what's gonna happen, d Ford, who's just
you know, one of the elite speed rushers in the league,
is not gonna play this week. To me, that's a
big kind of He's a guy that just plays fifteen
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twenty snaps the game, but he would get pressure on
Aaron that if they double Bosa, it's a little more difficult.
I just kind of envisioned Aaron making some of those
spectacular plays on Sunday Night football in front of thirty
million people, and yeah, I would probably lean the Packers.
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Your boy was struggling for a while there. Huh not good,
not good at all. Don't worry. You're always one pick.
When I'm actually headed to Vegas tomorrow. Man, I wish
I was there the last two weekends because I was
killing it. Now, people like, hey, got like he was hot.
He's gonna be called little report card. Forty three and
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thirty three overall in the NFL picks all season long.
That's that's a win. That's a windog. That's the wind.
That's a loss. That's the wind only and one in
college You're like, man, that's a loss. You're your four below.
But considering where we were nine and one past two weeks,
let it ride. I'm running a favor. Let's get to
the picks. I won't winner twelve. We gotta five NFL
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five College it's five for five with Doug Godlis. Let's
go five to do to do Doug gott Leaves Show,
Fox Sports Radio. Let's let's get off to I'm riding
Illinois in college football seven and three against the spread
this weekend. I was coming off a huge win over
previously undefeate of Minnesota. Don't worry. I know Illinois also
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coming off a huge win. They were down twenty eight
to ten at the half. They were wait for it,
they were down thirty one to tend the in the
third quarter, come back and win thirty seven thirty four.
But Brandon Peters in the line, I and it won't
go away. The defense is pretty good fit in the country.
At twelve points per game, offense won't put up enough
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points to win for Iowa. UM Iowa is a fifteen
a half point favorite. I don't care if I will wins.
I just don't even win by more than two touchdowns. Right,
I'm not asking that much. Right, Illinois kind of team
of a little bit of destiny there. They're already bol eligible.
They've won four games in a row. They got Northwestern
next was all banged up. They got a chance to
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win eight games. Love, he's gonna keep his job. I
don't know if they win. I think they cover this week. Um,
Oklahoma State is gonna be without without their starting quarterback
this weekend. You're like, whoa, WHOA got Labe going on
the road to West Virginia. Well, a couple of things
you need to know. Spencer Sanders has been good, but
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he's also turnover prone. He is, so Spencer Sanders is
out instead, Drew Brown is gonna get a look now.
Drew Brown is a lot more experienced. Um, he's a senior,
he's a transfer. He played two years at Hawaii. He's
pretty good thrower, pretty good thrower, and they have Chuba
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Hubbard and West Vindia does not have a good run defense.
I think they're fine. I'm not sure they're not the
same team without Spencer standards. Eventually is gonna be a
great quarterback. Right now, he's still super young. Oklahoma State
wins Oklahoma State covers on the road five and a
half point favorites against the Ears. Okay, so I need
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your help with math here. You can't How quick can
you do math? Ryan Music? This is a good math problem,
all right? You ready? Alright, Michigan State is taking on Rutgers,
taking on Rutgers. Okay, I'm gonna give you the overall
scores for Rutgers in conference, and you tell me what
the overall scores are, because I saw this and I
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was like, this is insane, insane. Rutgers is o N
seven in League two and eight overall. They've already fired
their head coach. They lost thirty nothing to Iowa, fifty
two nothing to Michigan, forty seven to Maryland, who stinks,
thirty five nothing to Indiana, seven in Minnesota, thirty eight
to ten to Illinois, and fifty one to Ohio State,
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who how's your mouth? Not good? And but it might
be better than Rutgers offense that's only scored forty five
points in conference points in conference. Okay, So Michigan State. Look,
Michigan State sucks this year. Okay, I'm not gonna but
they did score thirty four against Illinois. They got stopped
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last week in Michigan. But they got a chance here.
This is big for Michigan State to get bull eligible.
They gotta win two games, go in two games, and
they're gon. This is a get right game. Everybody feels good.
They're gonna stop the hell out of out of Rutgers.
Rutgers a twenty one a half point dog plus Ruckers
is three and seven against the spread. Um, I'm taking
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Michigan State. Lay the points. I'm okay with it. Half.
I know you're like Michigan State, Brian l Worky, not good,
got it understood. Rutgers is really really not good, and
it's to get right game. It's a feel good game.
Mark D'Antonio, I think it's gonna keep his job because
they're gonna go six and six and go to a
bowl game. Nebraska is taken on Merland. Have you seen
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how bad Maryland has been recently? They're one win is
over Rutgers in conference play. They got beat seventy three
to fourteen by Ohio State seventy three to fourteen. Now
it's not like Nebraska is great shakes, but for most
of this season they're playing without their starting a good
push the season, playing without their starting quarterback, and they
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too want to get Bull eligible. It's a big thing
when you have a young team and you're trying to
change the culture to get Bull eligible. Uh. Nebraska was
beaten at home by Wisconsin, but the going on the
road to Maryland, who is all kinds of stinky. I
think Adrian Martinez opens up and has a really big game.
All they gotta win is by a touchdown. I'm gonna
take Nebraska to win. Nebraska to cover, you guys, I'll
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go with that cool dude in dune Dune. All right,
one more pick and this one's a biggie right. This
one is a a huge, huge game for Michigan taken
on Indiana. Now, Michigan doesn't traditionally cover when they have
Ohio State coming the following week. And Indiana is not terrible.
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Yes they beat in Rutgers, Yes they beat Maryland. Yes
they beat Northwestern, those the bottom of the league. They
also beat Nebraska on the road. It's only a nine
point spread. Michigan, on the other hand, comes out and
and since they beat Penn State, they've been playing great football.
I mean lost the Penn State. Excuse me, they came back.
Could have scored a touchdown at the very end. They
beat Maryland, beat Michigan State, beat Notre Dame. I think
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Michigan wins. I think Michigan covers. I just do I
understand that they haven't covered for John Harball getting ready
for Ohio States since he's been there. This becomes the
exception Michigan. Shaye Patterson. I don't think Indiana is as
good as the record because they're beating up in the
bottom of the Big Ten. I'm gonna take Michigan to
win in Michigan to cover. Those are my college picks.
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Let's get to the pros Steelers taken on the Bengals.
Have I mentioned that the the Bengals don't stink? The
Bengals suck A. Jan Green is not gonna play for
whatever reason they're using Ryan Finley. Bengals are owing four
at home against the spread. They're the thirty one best
team in overall defense, thirty at the offense. Steelers have
the third best defense overall, number two in takeaways. This
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is gonna be ugly. Steelers just gotta win by a touchdown,
six and a hook. Give me the Steelers as road
favorites playing in Cincinnati, Broncos taken on the Bills. The
Bills are only four point favorites and the Bills are
six three and one against the spread. Bills defenses third
and points per game six on third down. Broncos offense
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is among the league's worst than I know. It's been
better since they trade train change quarterbacks. But Brandon Allen's
only completing his passes. It's not like he's tearing up
the league. Bill is defense at home in the cold,
nasty Give me the Bills. Giants are three and seven
overall against the spread this year, thirty one in the NFL.
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Giants of the second most turnovers in the NFL. They're
only scoring twenty points per game. I believe they're playing
for next year. Bill Bears have their struggles on offense,
but their defense is elite. And I'm not sure if
you've paid attention, but Danny Dimes is also Danny Fumble.
Bears minus six, Bears will win, Bears will cover. Give
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me the home favorite. Bears. Cowboys are six and a
half point dogs. Reputation alone as allowed the Patriots to
be a six and a half point favorite. No. Mohammed
Sanu not expected to play Cowboys defense. Is uh fourth
on third down, ninth in the red zone. It's better
than you think. The offense is going against a very
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good defense, but I expect him to shorten the game,
run the football. I think the Cowboys win. I would
go at this straight up, but if I'm getting six
and a half points, I'll take that. Nonetheless, give me
the Cowboys on the road as a dog to cover.
Packers are three and one on the road against the spread,
seven and three overall against spread niners or two to two,
two and one at home against the spread. Packers great
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and turnover margin. That's a huge stat in the NFL.
Their offense has really come together. Fourth overall, fifth overall,
excuse me, ninth in points per game, second in the
red zone. And remember some of their red zone and
inefficiencies is when they didn't have Davante Adams, who over
the last two and a half years the best bred
zone threat at wide receiver in the NFL. Jimmy G's aggressive,
but Jimmy G can turn that ball over. The last
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two games, Loan five TVs three interceptions and several others
that could have been intercepted if guys weren't playing defense.
For a reason, right, Why don you drop that ball?
Plays defense for a reason. I like Jimmy g but
in this game when Aaron Rodgers, who doesn't turn it over,
comes in super focused and he's got a running game. Defense,
though a bit maligned, is a turnover happy defense against
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Jimmy Garoppoloh will turn the football over. Packers are three
point dogs. I like three three and a half. I
love because I can lose my field goal. You get
three and a half all over the Packers. I'm still
gonna take them. Packers, Cowboys, Bears, Bills, Steelers. Those are
the page there. It is five NFL. Let's go five
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And if you watch this on Instagram or on our
digital feed. I am wearing a shirt um my boys.
At nine I saw they put this out to Jacksonville
Dolphins T shirt jackson Old Dolphins. My dad in the
mid seventies, nine seventy three through nineteen seventy five was
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the head coach of JU Jacksonville University. So I saw
this shirt and I was like, hey man, can I
get one of those? I get two of those one
from me, one for my brother. They sent it to me,
and today's November is the fifth anniversary of my dad's passing. UM.
Today's show is obviously about sports. We'll talk about the
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Colts and they're close loss yesterday last night. We'll talk
about the Packers, the Cowboys, the Patriots, the Eagles, maybe
a little bit about there. He is about upcoming quarterbacks
and outgoing quarterbacks. Um, but I would physically not be
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here today if not from my father, and literally not
be here as well as theoretically not be here. My
dad was a basketball coach but a huge sports fan.
In the early days of sports radio in Southern California,
he was my au coach. We used to drive all
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around Southern California, picking kids up going to practice, taking
them home, and we would listen to Ley Hawk, Saw
Hamilton's I Want to Talk Sports with You, pow Way
and Escondido give me a call. We would read three
or four newspapers USA Today, l A Times, Orange County Edition,
(02:38):
Orange Counton Register, and for a short time, the greatest
sports newspaper ever, the National Sports Daily. You gotta be
old school, remember the National Man Diday collection was basically
the athletic in print form, and we'd pass them around
and talk about sports and talk about have opinions on
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things that we might have known and probably knew nothing about.
And one of the things that sports fans talk about
is the big what if. Right five years ago, my
dad passed seventeen years ago. Seventeen years ago, my dad
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had an exhibition team. These teams used to travel around
the country and play against the Vision One schools. We
had season tickets to u c l A basketball for
at least a decade, if not more. My brother and
sister went there. My dad was close to the coaching
staff and um I decided to turn down a scholarship
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for u c l A to go to Notre Dame.
When I left Notre Dame, I did, in fact wanted
I did want to go back and play at u
c l A. And they smartly recruited Baron Davis over
me and Baron Day. This is an unbelievable player. I
can't really argue with that. So seventeen years ago, my
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Branch West exhibition team beat U c l A. At
the time, this is November two thousand two. At the time,
it was the worst home loss in the history of
u c l A. At Polly Pavilion Building was like
fifty years old. We smacked him. My dad was the
coach and I was the player, and when we walked
(04:30):
off the floor, it was an unbelievable moment to share
with your father. My dad had been a head coach
at Jacksonville, w Milwaukee and assistant Kansas State and assistant
Oregon State and assistant Long Beach State. That brought us
out here for a long time. Um, there was some
flirtations with Walt Hazard, who was the coach, and then
Jim Herrick about maybe joining his staff because he did
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have a really good au program to land players. He
was a recruiter, He's a basketball coach, and I'm sure
that he walked off that court thinking what if? What
if I had ever gotten one of these jobs? What
if I had been on staff here at u c
l A. And of course, even though my career at
Oklahom State worked out great, got my degree, played in
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three n c A termans, played for legendary coach. I'm
now on the board of Governors. I met my wife there,
I have so many friends there. It is the what if,
all right, what if I had gone to u c
l A and warn the Blue and Gold. How would
my life be different? Would I be in the NBA
instead of playing some exhibition tour against U c l
A And Wichita State and lamar Right? What if is
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not just a big part of life? What if is
a part of sports? Aren't the Colts team? What if? Alright?
I'm watching last night and sure Adam vin Terry appears
to be past his prime. He's cost them a couple
of games, charge of games start the year. He blew
the game, probably three games this year they would have
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could have one if their kicker wasn't a fossil. He's
a great all time kicker, but he's over the hill.
It's the only possible explanation for how a great all
time kicker can become so erratic. But the biggest what
if is what if Andre re luctant retire? Right? Like
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this show became the center of the Andrew Luck retiring story.
But what's lost in the Andrew Luck retiring story is
he probably left the Super Bowl team. They got a young, fast, defense,
they got some talented wide receivers, a talented tight end,
they got a running game, They have an awesome offensive line,
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that's been rebuilt to protect him and think about and
that's not bad. He's not terrible. He's just not great.
I Mean, look at these offensive numbers, which to Cobe
Bridge set and Brian Hoyer their third and rushing, eighth
in third down conversion, fourth in time possession on offense,
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seventh in red zone scoring offense, and the all time
what ifs, all time what ifs I give you the
Annapolis Colts. The Colts this year are the Patriots. What
was the year that Tom Brady was hurt? Two thoight, Like,
here's a part of the Tom Brady story, which I
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feel like I'm the only one who tells you. And
when they go back and think, you know, they do
the football life this week in the football life, they'll
talk about there was a decade where Tom Brady didn't
win a Super Bowl, but part of that decade they
went to a Super Bowl against the Giants sixteen O
two and oh in the playoffs eight teen no total.
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The very next year with a team that had set
all time records, quarterback that had thrown fifty touchdown passes.
Randy Moss in his prime, Tom Brady in his prime,
an elite level defense that had been through and shredded
the entire league. They still went eleven and five without
Brady the two eight January two nine Patriots. We're at
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all time? What if team before this Indianapolis Colts all
the time? Wif team you go eleven and five with
Matt Castle as your quarterback? What would you do with
Tom Brady's your quarterback? A young Tom Brady in his prime,
fresh off of throwing fifty touchdown passes and getting to
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a Super Bowl. So I remember, man, I remember so
many different things about life with my father playing for him,
the things that he taught us, the challenges that he
laid down to live up to and exceed your potential.
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He was somebody who was an interesting and complex dude. Um,
But I can tell you that there's nothing like having
somebody who above all else believes in you and believes
in your talent. It's a special thing to have. And
it wasn't. I didn't believe just because I was his son,
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Although I'm sure there's some of it. Now, there's the
downside to that, right and everybody, and I'm sure any
of you who didn't have a dad, or don't have
a mom, or don't have somebody who is your advocate,
who believes in you above all else. You're sitting there
going like, man, what a blessing, And it was. There's
also the curse to it, which is trying to live
up to that. And now when he's gone, figuring out
(09:46):
have I lived up to his expectations? And is it
a bad thing to have lofty goals and lofty expectations? Right?
Some people think, well, your dad thinking you're the greatest,
that's everybody's dead. No, he really didn't think he believed
he knew. But today's show, though completely about sports, we've
(10:10):
lost your dad. Your dad is sick, your dad as well.
Let me just encourage you. Let me share with you
from the guy who has lived it. My dad was
not well. He had cancer and had spread to his brain.
They had they had stopped the treatments because once it
spreads to your brain, they have to stop the clinical treatments.
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We were on our way a day. A day later,
we were supposed to leave and come stay with them
for Thanksgiving, me and my brother, my sister, all our
kids coming down, and we got a call that he
had suffered a brain bleed and we I immediately flew
out he never regained consciousness, but we were there holding
his hand when they turned off the turned off the plus. Really, really,
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you know, it's the hardest thing you ever gonna do
in your life. So what I tell friends, and I
will tell you now is don't be afraid during this
holiday season. Forget about telling your parents or telling your
loved one that you love them. Tell them why you
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love them, what specifically about them that makes you think
of them fondly, because I know you love them. When
you hate them, then you love them. But it's the
special things about you and you and you and me
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that resonate with people. And if you don't share those things,
maybe they don't know if those things resonated or what
about you resonates. I'd love to have one more conversation,
So if you have it this holiday season, whatever bygones are,
make them bygones. Whoever hatchets bury them, because five years later,
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when they're gone, they're still gone. You can talk to them,
you can feel them. That can be a part of
every day and everything you do or nothing that you do.
But what you can't do is pick up the phone
and call them. What you can't do is see them
and discuss things, and discuss life, and discuss what you
what you think of them in person. I had a
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shot a couple of years later my uncle who has
since passed, and I took my own advice and my
heart feels clear because of it. So I'm not going
to go into super sad Gottly mode. I will only
point out that on a daylight today, let me share
with you my feelings and my thoughts on my father,
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who I missed very much today. And one, it's that
there's nothing like a person who completely and totally believes
in you and pushes you, but pushes you because they
think you have something special inside of you. And two,
spend those special moments over this holiday season telling people
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how and why you feel about them. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays
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Radio and the I Heart Radio A app. Do you
like to Aaron Rodgers persona? Because I have a feeling
that this is the ultimate Aaron Rodgers Sunday. Um, there
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are there are some games in the NFL which will
rate and everyone will watch and we'll be fascinated by
and my expectations are to be played at a much
higher level than other regular season games. The Sunday Night
game was supposed to be Seattle Philadelphia. That's Russell Wilson.
Philadelphia is a Super Bowl champion two years ago. Carson
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Wentz would have been the m v P in that year.
Those are big name, big mark. That's a big market
in Philadelphia. Green Bay not a big market, but kind
of there. One b to America's team, which is the Cowboys.
They rate against the Niners. Huge name that was flexed
out or flexed in. Aaron Rodgers is from northern California.
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Aaron Rodgers grew up a Niners fan. Aaron Rodgers emulated
and loved Joe Montana and the Niners had the number
one overall pick when Aaron Rodgers was coming out of
cal and they took Alex Smith instead, and Alex Smith
eventually led them to an NFECY Championship game. If not
for two fumbles on special teams, could have led them
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to a Super Bowl. But there's a ceiling there with
Alex Smith and eventually they moved on for Colin Kaepernick. Meanwhile,
Aaron Rodgers had to sit there in the green room
till the four pick go to Green Bay where Brett
Farve didn't want him there and he didn't play his
first three years there. And now with one of his
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best teams he's ever had, he has a chance to
go into San Francisco and not just get a win.
And think about this when a win on the road
and the Packers would be the number one seed in
the NFC. Head to head wins over the Niners, also
a tiebreaker over the Saints. The Packers believe or not
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have the best strength of victory out of all the
current playoff teams. Second the NFL, by the way, the
Browns are number one. That's because the Browns beat the Ravens.
That was a big win that the Brown's head and
beating the Ravens and the Steelers also Sunday Night football.
And I've said this, but I'd like screaming into the wind.
I get Lamar Jackson's probably gonna win the m v P,
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but it's not because he's actually the m v P.
Lamar Jacksons played good football. Good hasn't played better football
than Aaron Rodgers, who has seventeen touchdowns and two interceptions.
Nine touchdowns and no interceptions, his last four games, completing
nearly seventy of his passes and eight point eight yards
per tempt. He's not dinking and dunking and Sam Bradford
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it where you just get rid of it on a
one step drop. No, no, no, He's still Aaron Rodgers.
He's just crazy good Aaron Rodgers. Oh, and for the
most part, he was doing it without his best pass
catching threat. I know that the media and fans love
Lamar Jackson, and I think a good portion of why
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they love Lamar Jackson we do. We like like the option,
it's fun, we love the college style. It's fun. But
also it's There was enough people saying hand of Lamar
Jackson's quarterback long term in the NFL to where somehow
validating it by the m V peak becomes more important
than who's actually the best quarterback and having the best season.
Pat Mahomes is having a better year. Yes, he missed
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three games, but he's having a better year. He's more
impactful throughout the entirety of the season. Russell Wilson's having
a better year. And Aaron Rodgers is definitely having a
bed year in a better year. And if you want
to talk about wins and losses like, yeah, look, Lamar
Jackson does have uh one less win and one more loss.
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Lamar Jackson also has run the benefit of playing the Bengals,
who suck twice. I don't use the word suck very often.
I don't think it's a very nice thing to say.
I tell my kids not to say it. Some teams
stink and some teams suck. The Cincinnati Bengals suck. They're terrible,
and he's beating the Miami Dolphins also s word. Arizona
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Cardinals second week of the season s word. Meanwhile, Packers
have played a difficult schedule, number two in strength of wins,
and if they win, they're the number one seed in
the NFC, And that would be a road win over
the San Francisco forty Diners, who just so happened to
be the franchise he wanted to play for in the
city that he wanted to play. Doing so with the
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Green Bay Packers the first year head coach. One win
would change everything, because we start to go, hey, you know,
Aaron Rodgers might actually be better than Lamar Jackson this year.
Of course he is even Aaron Rodger. We're not even
paying attention to the fact that he's trying to promote
Aaron Jones as the m v P is like, Nah,
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I'm good. Nobody thinks Aaron Jones is the m v P.
Twelves the m v P. It's the best quarterback in football.
He finally got a bit of a defense. Is the
defense great? No, it doesn't have to be great because
you have Aaron freaking Rodgers. Is the the offense is working?
Is the offense great? No, you don't have to be great.
You've got Aaron freaking Rodgers. But when the offense is
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good and well thought out and challenging to him and
challenging the defenses, And when the defense is good, did
that'd be great and challenging to others? Now of a sudden,
you give your chance self a chance to win the
whole thing. Be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Leap Show weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific.
Let's bring in John Middlecoff. Three Out is the podcast,
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of course, part of the HERD podcast network. He has
three Now I have All Ball. His is all football Minds,
All Basketball Minds. A conversation this week with Andy Kennedy.
What is the what's the big topic this week for you.
Uh well, I actually went pretty in on this l
A relocation, that article that came out yesterday, and just
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you know what a debacle this whole situation is. I mean,
these guys that made the decisions don't have a great
feel for California, you know. I mean the majority of
power brokers in the NFL or Northeast guys and then
Jerry Jones, now they come out here and hang out,
but they don't kind of understand the ethos of the
way we're wired. I mean, you're from California, I'm from California.
They're just a different type mindset and they I understand
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why they wanted a team in l A. I mean,
there's too many people not to have a team there,
but rushing two teams there the way it was handled.
The debacle now of this cronky Dean relationship where I've
been told by people in league they don't even talk.
It's just it's it's a disastrous situation with a ton
of money on the line. And you know it's not
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just the Chargers, just the Rams. I mean I felt
it last week watching the Sunday Night Doug game. Doug,
you could feel like, this is not Chicago. They don't
celebrate defense. So when it's seventeen to twelve, like no one,
that's not a fun game for people in Los Angeles.
It felt like a Bears home game. I don't know, man,
I just it's not trending in the right direction. Well,
there's there's a bunch to it. And I'm actually kind
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of glad you brought up because we haven't really talked
about it. Um, I can just tell you, and I
haven't lived here my entire professional life, right like, I
I was here for two years they moved back, But
I know my family has lived here. I grew up
and so I was here when they left. Then when
you when you grow up here, you know the way
people are watching, right And when I grew up here,
when the Rams left, it wasn't that big a deal.
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It wasn't when the Raiders left, it was it was
it was a pretty big thing, but not a huge
thing because they never they never fixed the Colosseum like
they promised they fixed the Colosseum. And the reason they
hadn't fixed the Coloseum was it wasn't like any it
wasn't that big a thing, right, Like, it just wasn't
It was just another thing to have. It was a
embarrassment of riches. And if you remember when the Rams
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and Raiders left, that was back when they had blackouts
and you couldn't watch another game in your home market
outside of the home team, and you can only watch
that game was sold out. And so when they both left,
all of a sudden, we got to watch any game
we wanted. You'd have two games on at once and
you didn't have to worry. We don't have Oh man,
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we gotta watch the Rams again. They suck. I hate
watching that, right, So you got to watch any game
you wanted. So people still like the NFL. They just
had no affinity for any team outside of probably the Raiders, right,
And the Raiders that's just also be honest, it's very
Hispanic and African American fan base, and you know that
that's that's not They don't sell the boxes, right, the
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Rams them, they don't make any money, right, I mean
that was That's the whole thing is. My sister used
to be second in charge of marketing with the Raiders,
and she's like, look, we have loyal fans, they just
don't have any money like the Niners. Have the money. Now,
the Niners screwed themselves because they moved down to closer
to Silicon Valley, right, But they left all San Francisco behind.
They got their own problems to worry about. But I
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I do think you're right. It's classic that like, well,
they did studies to people like the NFL, like, yeah,
do we want a team? Like I guess you know.
And then here's a big one with the Chargers. I
think the Chargers are the Geno Smith of NFL franchises.
And here's why. Okay, I believe that the Giants then
knew they were they were doing the right thing pulling ELI.
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When they pulled ELI. The problem was there was such
negativity regarding Geno Smith in New York. If you started
anybody in the world instead of ELI, other than Gino Smith,
you'd be fine. You start Gino Smith. Like Geno Smith,
I hate him. You putting the Chargers in Carson, which
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is prime, prime real estate for Raiders fans. O. Hey,
it's not just you put any team. You put a
team that doesn't have a winning reputation, has the reputation
of being cheap. And oh yeah, by the way, is
the rival of the team that you actually like, like
you set yourself off in a negative spot to begin with. Well,
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I also think I went to cal Poli. So I
went to school with a lot of guys from San Diego,
which which cal Pol. There's there's two Pomona, San Louis, Obispo.
So it was kind of cut in half. What years
of northern California half southern California in the mid two thousands, like, oh,
three to eight. That's that's a good living right there
by the way. Yeah, it didn't suck. And then I
went to Firestone. Firestone Grill is amazing. It's the best
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best right tip in America. And listen, I understand San
Diego is never gonna be like have the fervor of
Dallas or Philly or whatever. But I never met one
person from San Diego that wasn't really locked in on
the Chargers. And I understand the corporate money is a
little different, but I think they could have done it,
and clearly Dean, you know, listen, he inherited the team
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from his grandpa. My dad was a farmer. His his
family in the Central Valley was viewed in high reverence
right from a business standpoint. His grandparents' dad, and I
get Deans really conservative, but he would have had to
extend himself. I do think it would have been capable
in San Diego, probably had to do a little smaller stadium,
but they had they had a niche thing going and
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like you said that they're forcing this and whenever you like,
he's paying one dollar in rent Stam's paying for everything.
So if you're I mean, he should have just accepted
to pay maybe fifteen to twenty like a going rate
for rent. So there wasn't this animosity from the guy
that's paying for everything. Like, to me, the thing's destined
to fail the way they set it up economically, and
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then when you factor in, like you said, location, the
fan base, it's it's a disaster. Well, my issues with
San Diego residents who stupidly because of politics at the time,
Remember they had a they had a creepy mayor. You know,
they had a bunch of bad mayors, and you know
the way California is, they never gonna vote for pack stuff.
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I mean, they're just but but it wasn't. But it
wasn't tax dollars. It was coming from rental cars, which
if you live in San Diego. You're not renting a car.
It was the dumbest thing ever for everybody, every tourist.
And they lost the Final Four, they lost the Super Bowl,
they lost the College Football Playoffs. It's gonna be domed,
it's gonna be pert it's gonna be everything they're getting
in l A And and they lost it. So I
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don't have sympathy for San Diego, but it doesn't mean
that it's the right place for the Chargers or for
the Rams. But you're you're right, the Rams gotta pass.
Their games are like home games for the visiting team too. Anyway,
John Middlcoff joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show. What
about the Rams? Can they be the team that solves
the puzzle of Lamar Jackson? Uh? You know, I think
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you need team speed a linebacker, and that's not really
their thing. Now. They've got some really good defensive lineman
and Jalen Ramsey will tackle in the run game, So
any of those runs that are going outside of the
tackle to Jalen side that that helps a lot, you know,
the Monday night game. Yeah, I think that plays a
little bit of factor. Long travel for Baltimore. Uh, I
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would lean you know, are the Are the Ravens really
gonna go fourteen in two? Like they're bound to lose
some games? This would be the type game I guess
you would just circle as Yeah, this is kind of hard.
My question, though, is the Ravens defense has been playing
a lot better, and Jared's been a disaster because he's
much more like the old school Rivers Eli those type
quarters you can't move, so if you can't block for him,
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it's it's over. You have no offense. And Gurley shown
some signs of life. But the Ravens, who kind of
felt like an offensive team all year, if you kind
of looked the last couple of weeks, I mean, their
defense is flying around and making plays, especially that front
they have I forget the guy's name, but a front
pass rush who is playing really well, Judah something. And
I just think that that that's a matchup that's not
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really conducive for the Rams. Is offensively, how are they
going to score up points? Doug Gotlive show here on
Fox Sports Radio. That's the voice of John Middlecoff, former
NFL scout. Check out his Three and Out podcasts, which
of course covers the entire National Football League. It is
interesting that the that the Ravens defense, Ravens running game,
Ravens kicking game, um is all spectacular. It reminds me,
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reminds me of Tebow time. Obviously he's better than Tebow.
He's more like Mike Vick without the off the field
non sense. Right. And by the way, it's Matthew Judon
is uh is the is the yeah week weak side linebacker?
Another grade fine Grand Valley State. I don't know if
you scouted Grand Valley Skate's that's in Michigan. I think
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Upper up in in Michigan. Anyway, Matthew Judon is the
one who they're They're a d D two power at
the east of When I went to I grew up
in Davis and when you see Davis was Division two.
That was always the team they were trying to be. Uh,
let's get is the Patriots. Do they have the skill
position players to win this thing? Did you see right
before I got on with you, I guess rap sheet?
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You know they put out their injury report. Tom Brady's questionable.
You know, obviously with Tom Brady's injuries, I don't pay
much attention when he's on the injury report. But the questionable.
Is something to kind of keep an eye on. I mean,
that's not that's not nothing. I don't know if he
heard his elbow. He is forty two years old, so
you know, a nick can become an injury pretty fast.
The skill guys, I love nikkil Harry coming out of college,
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but anytime in that offense for young players, it's pretty
historically very challenging. And then he misses the majority of
the season. I think last week was the first week back,
or maybe it was two weeks ago. It's just gonna
be a transition there, depending on Jacobe Myers. It's an
undrafted free agent Julian Edelman, who's just a who's one
of my favorite players of this generation. But he can
only do so much. I mean, hell last week through
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the game winning touchdown path, but even he's banged up.
Not having Gronkowski, the running backs have been a little questionable.
But one thing stood after me last week Doug watching
the Eagle game, was the Eagles were getting after Tom.
You know, it kind of felt like one of those
Super Bowls where Tom's just getting peppered over and over
and he doesn't like that. And if you can rush
the passer on him. You can throw them off in
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DeMarcus Lawrence, Michael Bennett. I mean they do have some
path rushed. I mean, Lawrence is a star. So if
you if you can get after him a little bit
up front, Tom and they get down. That was the
other thing they were down in the Philly game where
they can't just dink and dunk all game and just
run out the clock. They kind of had to push
the ball down the field. And it's hard when there's
a reason that the story came out this week. They're
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probably kicking the tires again on Antonio Brown. Their receivers
are just in shambles. Yeah, which which always said? Which
you know? And then of course there's another story I
know that never happened. My guess is somebody said, what
about it Jonio Brown? Like he's up pain in the ass,
Like all right, moving on, he can't play, um that is, Hey,
what happened in Atlanta Falcons. Well, they pulled the names
out of a hat and they all coaching different positions.
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They basically did the tin cup. They took all their
change in one pocket, put it through the other pocket,
and it damned it works. Yeah, you know, no one
ever doubted like they're the Dolphins talent wise. I mean,
they do have the players everywhere that every team in
the NFL would take. Uh. I think they were such
a head scratching team because a lot of people in
the NFL respect and Quinn. They've been a consistent winner,
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you know, in his time, and just to lose all
those games that sometimes just bye week. The team's got
a little pride again. They have a lot of talent. Uh.
What I had thought is maybe they just, you know,
every coach's run comes to an end. Somems are twenty
five years, some are five years whatever. Maybe they had
tuned him out. But whatever he did that a little
like you said, the change move, it's worked because they
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haven't they haven't just looked good. They they've kind of
been kicking ask and taking names. That was a game
the Niners are about to go on this crazy stretch.
Packers rape in Saints Ram Seattle and the Falcons are
thrown in there and everyone's like, oh, that's an easy win.
It's like, I don't know about bad anymore. I mean,
you could say they're the hottes team in the league.
They just it's one thing to get two wins over
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the Dolphins and the Bengals. They got two wins over
the Saints on the road and the Panthers on the road.
Nominated and and and there were no doubters, no doubters.
Uh did you feel like me? And you can disagree?
Did you feel like me? Watch the Colts last night
and go, man, what could have been? This team? Obviously
their kicker away from being a lock playoff team. But
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if they have Andrew Luck he left the Super Bowl team,
I feel like this is the O eight Patriots. Hey,
what could have been? Team? Yah? Super Bowl might be
a little strong, but I'm watching the game last night
and really them all season thinking, this feels like Andrew
lux VCS Stanford. Team physical upfront, you can throw in
any running back and shove it down your throat. I
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mean Ty was bad last night, but he's been He's
a really good player, Eric Ebron and defensively they're just solid.
I mean it took. The Texans are like a basketball team.
They got two stars and then a bunch of other
randoms and they just make plays and I don't you
know they're not They feel they've got twelve men on
the field. Deshawn's run around for his life. They're gonna
end up with probably ten or eleven wins just on talents,
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just because there are a couple of high end guys
are elait, But I don't watch them thinking they're any good.
I watched the Colts much more button down operation. Yeah,
I mean Jacoby's numbers. I thought he played better than
the than the box score looked. Uh could they? You know?
I do think they're probably a skilled guy away to
go along with t Y and Ebron to really make
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hay when it comes to beating the Chiefs, beating the Ravens,
beating the Patriots in the playoffs. But clearly the coach
uh is really good. And just from an outsider's view,
I respect and really kind of admire what Ballard the
type players he acquires like. They don't have many sexy guys,
but they just okay, you want to get into a
four quarter brawl and just will play, you know, in
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the in the high teams, low twenties, let's go, And
that's They're gonna be even better next year. I think
a lot of Colts fans a little spoiled because they
went from manning the luck. I mean, they don't like
Jacoby or you know clearly he's not those guys. But
one more draft and one more off season, to me,
they could be a team next year that could be
really scary. I still think, Doug, they probably sneak in
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the playoffs. Would you look at their schedule? Nine wins
might get you that six seed depending on you know,
the Raiders kind of a swing game this week. If
they were to lose the Jets, they'd be in trouble.
They win this week, you might be like, well, they
might be the sixth seed. They also in the tiebreaker
over the Colt. So that's the team to keep an
eye on. Let me let me ask you about that. Uh.
Niners Packers game Garoppolo leven touchdowns, four inceptions the last
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four games. We're like, wow, that's really good. Then you
look at at Aaron Rodgers last four games, nine touchdowns,
no interceptions, and they have a legit running game now
with Aaron Jones. And that's apparently the way to beat
the Niners is you gotta run the football at their
vaunted defensive line. Niners a little bit banged up right
breed just got the yankle, Emmanuel Sanders got the ribs.
Deebo Samuel's got the shoulder, George Kittle got the knee
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and ankle injury. Um and and Joe Staley, I don't
think he practiced. Going back to yesterday and my crazy
this this is a win. The Packers win it. They
got the number one seed in the NFC. Plus you
know Aaron Rodgers wants to kick their asks for not
drafting him. Feels like the Packers go in there and
get a win. Yeah to me, whoever wins this game
is gonna end up with a bye. Uh. The debo.
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Kittle and Emmanuel Sanders were at practice today practicing. Now
they had blue jerseys on non contact, not like there's
much contact going kills playing debo is gonna play Emmanuel
Sanders a little up in the air. I don't know.
I've been to a couple of Niner games this year.
The atmosphere has been the best since Levi's obviously because
they're winning. But the Packers travel as well as any team,
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you know, obviously Aaron Rodgers. I don't know if it's
gonna play that big of a role in this game.
Even the Niners once upon a time passed on them.
But the Niners that used to wonder Harbaugh kind of
own the Packers. Those Packer teams were little one sided.
I mean, Clay Matthews was really good, but their defense
had a lot of question marks. The Packers defense they
added so Darius and Preston Smith. Those guys have combined
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for almost twenty sacks and dominated up front. There are
two corners, Kevin King and Jaire Alexander have been really good,
So that to me, defensively is kind of where they've
come in. Now, like, how is Jimmy gonna throw it
on these guys? The forty Niners receivers drop every other
past Now Kittle coming back. Kittle is the best plot,
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but best player, and honestly it might not even be
that close. I mean, he's one of the best players
in the league, so having him him back changes their offense.
But yeah, I mean, if if I close my eyes
and envision just what's gonna happen, d Ford, who's just
you know, one of the elite speed rushers in the league,
is not gonna play this week. To me, that's a
big kind of He's a guy that just plays fifteen
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twenty snaps the game, but he would get pressure on
Aaron that if they double Bosa, it's a little more difficult.
I just kind of envisioned Aaron making some of those
spectacular plays on Sunday Night football in front of thirty
million people, and yeah, I would probably lean the Packers.
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Your boy was struggling for a while there. Huh not good,
not good at all. Don't worry. You're always one pick.
When I'm actually headed to Vegas tomorrow. Man, I wish
I was there the last two weekends because I was
killing it. Now, people like, hey, got like he was hot.
He's gonna be called little report card. Forty three and
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thirty three overall in the NFL picks all season long.
That's that's a win. That's a windog. That's the wind.
That's a loss. That's the wind only and one in
college You're like, man, that's a loss. You're your four below.
But considering where we were nine and one past two weeks,
let it ride. I'm running a favor. Let's get to
the picks. I won't winner twelve. We gotta five NFL
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five College it's five for five with Doug Godlis. Let's
go five to do to do Doug gott Leaves Show,
Fox Sports Radio. Let's let's get off to I'm riding
Illinois in college football seven and three against the spread
this weekend. I was coming off a huge win over
previously undefeate of Minnesota. Don't worry. I know Illinois also
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coming off a huge win. They were down twenty eight
to ten at the half. They were wait for it,
they were down thirty one to tend the in the
third quarter, come back and win thirty seven thirty four.
But Brandon Peters in the line, I and it won't
go away. The defense is pretty good fit in the country.
At twelve points per game, offense won't put up enough
(37:56):
points to win for Iowa. UM Iowa is a fifteen
a half point favorite. I don't care if I will wins.
I just don't even win by more than two touchdowns. Right,
I'm not asking that much. Right, Illinois kind of team
of a little bit of destiny there. They're already bol eligible.
They've won four games in a row. They got Northwestern
next was all banged up. They got a chance to
(38:17):
win eight games. Love, he's gonna keep his job. I
don't know if they win. I think they cover this week. Um,
Oklahoma State is gonna be without without their starting quarterback
this weekend. You're like, whoa, WHOA got Labe going on
the road to West Virginia. Well, a couple of things
you need to know. Spencer Sanders has been good, but
(38:38):
he's also turnover prone. He is, so Spencer Sanders is
out instead, Drew Brown is gonna get a look now.
Drew Brown is a lot more experienced. Um, he's a senior,
he's a transfer. He played two years at Hawaii. He's
pretty good thrower, pretty good thrower, and they have Chuba
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Hubbard and West Vindia does not have a good run defense.
I think they're fine. I'm not sure they're not the
same team without Spencer standards. Eventually is gonna be a
great quarterback. Right now, he's still super young. Oklahoma State
wins Oklahoma State covers on the road five and a
half point favorites against the Ears. Okay, so I need
(39:22):
your help with math here. You can't How quick can
you do math? Ryan Music? This is a good math problem,
all right? You ready? Alright, Michigan State is taking on Rutgers,
taking on Rutgers. Okay, I'm gonna give you the overall
scores for Rutgers in conference, and you tell me what
the overall scores are, because I saw this and I
(39:43):
was like, this is insane, insane. Rutgers is o N
seven in League two and eight overall. They've already fired
their head coach. They lost thirty nothing to Iowa, fifty
two nothing to Michigan, forty seven to Maryland, who stinks,
thirty five nothing to Indiana, seven in Minnesota, thirty eight
to ten to Illinois, and fifty one to Ohio State,
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who how's your mouth? Not good? And but it might
be better than Rutgers offense that's only scored forty five
points in conference points in conference. Okay, So Michigan State. Look,
Michigan State sucks this year. Okay, I'm not gonna but
they did score thirty four against Illinois. They got stopped
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last week in Michigan. But they got a chance here.
This is big for Michigan State to get bull eligible.
They gotta win two games, go in two games, and
they're gon. This is a get right game. Everybody feels good.
They're gonna stop the hell out of out of Rutgers.
Rutgers a twenty one a half point dog plus Ruckers
is three and seven against the spread. Um, I'm taking
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Michigan State. Lay the points. I'm okay with it. Half.
I know you're like Michigan State, Brian l Worky, not good,
got it understood. Rutgers is really really not good, and
it's to get right game. It's a feel good game.
Mark D'Antonio, I think it's gonna keep his job because
they're gonna go six and six and go to a
bowl game. Nebraska is taken on Merland. Have you seen
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how bad Maryland has been recently? They're one win is
over Rutgers in conference play. They got beat seventy three
to fourteen by Ohio State seventy three to fourteen. Now
it's not like Nebraska is great shakes, but for most
of this season they're playing without their starting a good
push the season, playing without their starting quarterback, and they
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too want to get Bull eligible. It's a big thing
when you have a young team and you're trying to
change the culture to get Bull eligible. Uh. Nebraska was
beaten at home by Wisconsin, but the going on the
road to Maryland, who is all kinds of stinky. I
think Adrian Martinez opens up and has a really big game.
All they gotta win is by a touchdown. I'm gonna
take Nebraska to win. Nebraska to cover, you guys, I'll
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go with that cool dude in dune Dune. All right,
one more pick and this one's a biggie right. This
one is a a huge, huge game for Michigan taken
on Indiana. Now, Michigan doesn't traditionally cover when they have
Ohio State coming the following week. And Indiana is not terrible.
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Yes they beat in Rutgers, Yes they beat Maryland. Yes
they beat Northwestern, those the bottom of the league. They
also beat Nebraska on the road. It's only a nine
point spread. Michigan, on the other hand, comes out and
and since they beat Penn State, they've been playing great football.
I mean lost the Penn State. Excuse me, they came back.
Could have scored a touchdown at the very end. They
beat Maryland, beat Michigan State, beat Notre Dame. I think
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Michigan wins. I think Michigan covers. I just do I
understand that they haven't covered for John Harball getting ready
for Ohio States since he's been there. This becomes the
exception Michigan. Shaye Patterson. I don't think Indiana is as
good as the record because they're beating up in the
bottom of the Big Ten. I'm gonna take Michigan to
win in Michigan to cover. Those are my college picks.
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Let's get to the pros Steelers taken on the Bengals.
Have I mentioned that the the Bengals don't stink? The
Bengals suck A. Jan Green is not gonna play for
whatever reason they're using Ryan Finley. Bengals are owing four
at home against the spread. They're the thirty one best
team in overall defense, thirty at the offense. Steelers have
the third best defense overall, number two in takeaways. This
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is gonna be ugly. Steelers just gotta win by a touchdown,
six and a hook. Give me the Steelers as road
favorites playing in Cincinnati, Broncos taken on the Bills. The
Bills are only four point favorites and the Bills are
six three and one against the spread. Bills defenses third
and points per game six on third down. Broncos offense
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is among the league's worst than I know. It's been
better since they trade train change quarterbacks. But Brandon Allen's
only completing his passes. It's not like he's tearing up
the league. Bill is defense at home in the cold,
nasty Give me the Bills. Giants are three and seven
overall against the spread this year, thirty one in the NFL.
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Giants of the second most turnovers in the NFL. They're
only scoring twenty points per game. I believe they're playing
for next year. Bill Bears have their struggles on offense,
but their defense is elite. And I'm not sure if
you've paid attention, but Danny Dimes is also Danny Fumble.
Bears minus six, Bears will win, Bears will cover. Give
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me the home favorite. Bears. Cowboys are six and a
half point dogs. Reputation alone as allowed the Patriots to
be a six and a half point favorite. No. Mohammed
Sanu not expected to play Cowboys defense. Is uh fourth
on third down, ninth in the red zone. It's better
than you think. The offense is going against a very
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good defense, but I expect him to shorten the game,
run the football. I think the Cowboys win. I would
go at this straight up, but if I'm getting six
and a half points, I'll take that. Nonetheless, give me
the Cowboys on the road as a dog to cover.
Packers are three and one on the road against the spread,
seven and three overall against spread niners or two to two,
two and one at home against the spread. Packers great
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and turnover margin. That's a huge stat in the NFL.
Their offense has really come together. Fourth overall, fifth overall,
excuse me, ninth in points per game, second in the
red zone. And remember some of their red zone and
inefficiencies is when they didn't have Davante Adams, who over
the last two and a half years the best bred
zone threat at wide receiver in the NFL. Jimmy G's aggressive,
but Jimmy G can turn that ball over. The last
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two games, Loan five TVs three interceptions and several others
that could have been intercepted if guys weren't playing defense.
For a reason, right, Why don you drop that ball?
Plays defense for a reason. I like Jimmy g but
in this game when Aaron Rodgers, who doesn't turn it over,
comes in super focused and he's got a running game. Defense,
though a bit maligned, is a turnover happy defense against
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Jimmy Garoppoloh will turn the football over. Packers are three
point dogs. I like three three and a half. I
love because I can lose my field goal. You get
three and a half all over the Packers. I'm still
gonna take them. Packers, Cowboys, Bears, Bills, Steelers. Those are
the page there. It is five NFL. Let's go five
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