December 11, 2019 • 33 mins
Doug reacts to the Yankees signing P Gerrit Cole to a record breaking contract and how the Yankees are back to their old ways of buying Championships. He also tells you why he is willing to admit Lamar Jackson is the future of the NFL if this 1 thing changes. Plus, NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the show to tell Doug what the NFL will do about the latest Patriots controversy.
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Garrett Cole was treated by the New York Yankees. Man Uh.
We discussed a little bit of um of favorite Movies
yesterday John Ramos with with Dan Buyer Um and What's
What's What's interesting about favorite movies? We were discussing it.
I said a few good men. It should be on
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anybody's top five, top ten list. I kind of gave
the challenge out to buy or sometime here at Christmas season.
It's great, just it's just a great flick. My daughter
is actually home sick from school today and I told her,
I was like, listen, you want a really good movie,
A few good men. What's it about? It's about It's
like thirteen. I don't there's no sc X scenes in
it right now, there's I think there's some language, there's
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some cons there's some graphic content a little bit, but
generally just a great movie anyway. December, the new Star
Wars comes out music. Are you a Star Wars Guide? Like?
Are you Wars? There aren't many people who are on
the level of John Ramos, but I do like Star Wars? Yes,
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What do you mean on the level John? Put the
figurines down? John? John? Really? I mean this is we
wonder why sometimes the drops aren't play at the right time.
It's because he got the It's kind of embarrassing he's
got the figurines out. John. When you would when you
would play in your mind, what character would you be
best suited for in Star Wars? What I always enjoyed
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Han Solo you of course, the swash buckling pirate who
ends up getting the girl in the end, right, I
love you? I know, which, of course is from the
best movie of the series. Right, no matter what they do,
no matter how good it is December and beyond, nothing
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will ever can ever match up to Empire Strikes Back. John,
you okay with me saying that? I am fine with
you saying that. Yes, Why, why in your mind is
it the best? I mean, I have my own theories
on it, my own beliefs in it. But it is
the best because the good guys do not win. Right.
It's a surprise ending. Not necessarily, it's not a m
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Night Shamalan surprise ending, but it's a it's a surprise
ending because the good guys don't all we don't win.
And that's not what we've been told, Right, that's not
what moviemaking with Hollywood has always told us. The good
guys win, and that's not Empire Strikes Back. Granted, that's
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not how the series first ended, nor will it ever
end with the bad guys winning. But that particular movie,
and and and the reason that the bad guys win
is kind of why I wanted to relate it to
the Yankees. I don't know if the Yankees are inherently
bad guys. I don't think Garrett Cole signing with them
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is an awful story for baseball, But it's about as
you thought, right. It's like the reason uh, you know,
the reason that the bad guys won in Empire Strikes
Back was they had all the power, right, they had
control of the Senate, they had all the power the Empire,
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they had more resources. It was it's easier to be
like with the Empire, right, remember the Remember at the
start of Empire Strikes Back, that's when they're on some
remote base right there, on some remote base, and Luke
goes out and he's he's you know, they're they're checking
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out for any sort of life form and basically like
an abominable snowman type of character captures him and keeps him.
It's about to eat him before he saved, right before
he saves himself, he escapes, and then he's got to
cut up in his own animal remember that, you know,
it smells, and he wraps himself in it to stay alive.
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They finally find him, but you remember that base, like
that base is like basically carved out. It's like in caves.
There's some remote planet, there's no nightlife, and he's hanging out,
no bar, no ladies, We're just hey, is we're just
for a good cause, trying to fight the evil Empire. Meanwhile,
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you shoot back to the Empire and their ships are nicer, right,
they got tracking systems and they just overwhelm you with
power and with resources. And either uniforms look clean like man,
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oh oh, that's the Yankees, right. The stadium is beautiful
and new and crisp and clean, but it does kind
of lack some sort of warmth, right, just like just
like the the the Empire's ships. I also think there's
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a little bit of we all we all have our
default right when and this is who the Yankees default is.
For the last four years or so, they've been getting
rid of big contracts, being smart with their money, right,
going out and say all right, we're gonna cut salary here,
we're gonna let that thing expire. CC Sabathia retires, We're
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gonna let him go into the sunset and young guys
and their club control. You know, obviously they did make
the big trade to acquire Giancarlo Stanton that does have
a substantial contract and maybe he's never been what Aaron
Aaron Judges, And eventually they had to pay Aaron Judge.
But Aaron Judge has been playing, you know, for less
than a million dollars so far in his career. Like
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they've been doing it smart, doing it right, doing it pennywise.
And then they're just like, yeah, that's fun. But you
know what else is really fun? Winning? And we're like
a couple of a picture or two away, so let's
just throw money at it. And that the latest report
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from John Hayman. And see what's he's he's uh fan
rags right, John Hayman's at fan rags now. And John
Hayman tweeted out that, uh, end of the day, Garrit
Cole just wanted to be a Yankee. He drove up
the hometown thing was overrated. Dodgers and Angels were above
three hundred million. He got the Yankees that throw in
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a ninth year, and why why not? Right? The Yankees
are They're always gonna have the resources. They got the
cool stadium, they got the cool logo, they got all
the players. All they need is a picture. Like they
may not win nine World Series, but they'll be in
the playoffs more often than not. You know, six seven,
eight of the years that you're gonna be there. The
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Yankees are gonna be there. The Angels are more some
remote and and I look, I get it. They paid
Mike Trout Moore than anybody else. But the Angels in
Los Angeles are more some room outpost where you're in
a cave for your uh, for your base. This is
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who the Yankees are. And and by the way, I
think it's a smart plan. I don't think that it's
dumb in any way for the Yankees to overspend, considering
they're like a picture away or maybe two pictures away.
And you went out and you got a guy who's solid,
never hurt, throws a bunch of ininning, strikes out a
bunch of people. But it makes sense. It makes more
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sense to them than it does the Angels. The Angels
are needed, the Angels need a pitching staff, The Yankees
need a picture. And the Yankees have money burning a
hole in their pockets, and why not go out and
spend it. This is their default, al right, have guys
under club control, pay some of those guys and then
pay huge money to a picture or two or three
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in order to actually win the World Series. But I
thought that is a parallel there where to to empire?
Strikes back, John, I don't know if I'm going too
far because I'm fired up about the Star Wars movie.
But they have all the cool stuff. They have all
the cool gadget tree. It's easier to be a member
the Empire than it is you know of uh, of
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the Rebel, Yeah, the Rebellion, the Rebel Alliance, the rebellion,
which just easier because you know you're gonna more times.
Not you're gonna win. Why you got better stuff, You
got more dudes. That's really the Empire and the good
guys don't always win. The good story doesn't always win.
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The Yankees one, the Yankees bid as much or more
than anybody else. They needed a picture. They threw money
in a problem. They're like, all right, is nine years smart?
Probably not, but we're gonna make it back. I don't
really matter. And they got what they wanted. So is
it a good story now? But that doesn't I mean,
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does it a happy ending now? But that doesn't make
it a bad story. You're a bad movie. In many ways,
it makes it a better movie. It's what made Return
of the Jedi so good because you knew that the
deck was severely stacked against you, right, remember in Return
of the Jedi and Return of the Jedi. You felt like,
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not only is the empire powerful and not only but
Luke now didn't have a hand, right, so he's dealing
with the fake hand. We also thought he couldn't confront
Vader because he couldn't handle his emotions, knowing he's his father.
Then there's his emperor fellow, who appears to be more
powerful than even Darth Vader. That's what the next bunch
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of baseball seasons are gonna be. It makes it even
better that the Yankees are bigger and more powerful. He
got Laboratorres, who is the best young player in the sport.
They got Aaron Judge and John Carlos stand the best
power hitting tandem in the sport. And now they go
out and get the most expensive starting pitcher in the sport.
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And they're the Yankees with the logo, and they can
absorb bad contracts and they can throw money at a problem,
which main Look, I don't know who the e walks
are going to be in Major League Baseball, but there's
gonna be some me walks who did level good e
walk right Ramos Ramos put down the e walk figurine. Yeah,
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I mean like, look, I like them too, and they're
actually my figurines, but playing with them during the show
is a little bit of arming. My point is simple.
I don't think it's a happy ending. I don't. I
don't think it's a Disney happy ending. Gared Cole pack
pitching for the Angels. The Angels the second team in
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Los Angeles. They call themselves Los Angeles but not Los Angeles.
And you'd have, you know, a hometown kid with Mike Trout,
and eventually Albert pool Holst rides into the sunset and
maybe the Angels and show hey Otani and like there's
your rebel alliance. But Garrett Cole was turned by money
and by the logo to the dark side. Be sure
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Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio wap SO. Lamar
Jackson is day to day with a quad injury. You know,
he says he's playing on playing tomorrow against the Jets,
and you start to ask yourself, like, look, if you're
the Ravens, you gotta think hard, long and hard about
playing r G three, don't you, right, Because now the
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Ravens are you forget about trying to prove to us
that your offense can work. What what is the win
over playing Lamar against it? Can you? Can you beat
the Jets with r G three as your quarterback? I mean,
if you ask me, the answer is yeah. Why why
would I If a guy has a quad injury, he's
my quarterback, he's my leader, he's very likely to be
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the league's MVP. Why would you? What's the winning playing
him on Thursday night? What's the And again, I'm not
a sit of guy. I've always been a sit dudes
if you can. And the way he plays puts himself
in harm's way. So sit him for Thursday, play him.
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Week seventeen was sixteen, And you want to sit in
week seventeen or play him? Sam is fine. Then you
have the week off summing, you have the bye, which
you should have, and then you're completely fresh, rested, ready
to go. And oh yeah, by the way, the less
tape the better, even though people have tape on what
you're trying to do. I would I would think long
and hard about starting r G three and not playing
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not not playing him at all. This was Earl Thomas
when he was talking about his quarterback taking hits to
take a listen to this every time. So while he
hits him like we like, man, he don't need to be
be taking those hits. And I think the Revs need
to pay with close attention to that as well, you know,
and protect him a little bit more, uh, because teams
are trying to do I'm not saying that trying to
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hurt the more, but you know that they're definitely going
on his legs more than they was doing it at first. Okay,
first thing is Earl needs to understand now are they
not doing anything special? They're still not hitting him at
the mesh point, still hitting him at the mesh point.
And maybe that's the Jets this week, or maybe it's
next week, or maybe we made to the playoffs, and
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everybody's like, ah, well, this is at some point because
the mesh point is I think most of your sports
fans and you know this, but the mesh point is
when he goes to hand the ball off to mark
ingram or keep it. There is a second there even
after he hands the ball off where you're allowed by
rule to clobber the quarterback and then once he if
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he holds out of the ball, you can hit the
quarterback low, you can hit him anywhere other than the helmet,
because once you leave the pocket, you're treated like a
running back. And why is it that we don't have
the same value to running backs as we used to
Because they haven't changed any of the rules to help
running backs. You can still hit a running back at
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or below the knee, right, You can't go helmet to helmet,
can't launch yourself, you can't do that with anyone. But
unlike a quarterback, you know, and there's no defenseless running
backs like the throw wide receivers. I've told you before
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that I believe Pat Mahomes and Russell Wilson are the
future of the NFL, right, And like the reason that
long term I remember this is a long ago argument
Carson Paul and Mike Vick about the same time, and
I said, like, look, I love watching Mike Vick play.
I love it. It's exciting. But if I'm betting on
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long term, on a long term stock, I'm betting on
Carson Palmer. Carson balm is a great athlete, but he's
agile within the pocket, but he can throw. And the
reason is all of the rules were designed then and
continue to be designed even more so to protect the
quarterback in the pocket. But if what Earl Thomas is
saying actually happened, where the NFL goes and says, hey,
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you know what, we gotta protect the quarterbacks outside of
the pocket. Now, I don't know how you'd You'd have
a mass revolt from defensive players and defensive coordinators. And
what do you do here? Like now, we can't hit
these guys in the pocket. We can't amount of the pocket.
They're just what we're supposed to do. Just let them
run into the end zone. We got to play tag
tag you're in. I don't know how you would execute it,
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but I do know this. If they change the rules
so that the same protections are similar protections are for
quarterbacks outside the pocket running the football as they are
inside the pocket, I will stand correct in. Lamar Jackson
could be the future of the National Football League. But
as the rules stand today, I go Mahomes, I would
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go Russell Wilson. Heck, I'd even I'd even go Kyler Murray.
You know, Kyler is tiny, and Kyler can run. But
Kyler really is a pocket thrower. He loves he can
throw the football. He's deadly accurate, whereas Lamar still not accurate.
Now they've they've done some really smart stuff to have
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him throw inside the numbers, two big targets. And he's
crazy athletic. And this isn't a lack of This isn't
a questioning of his toughness. This is just the reality
of it only takes one hit planting the foot one time.
We've seen it too many or or it's just the
little hits that add up and beat you up, much
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like Cam Newton. If they change the rules, I will
stand corrected and tell you he's the future. The rules
as they stand now, going with Pat Mahomes, going with
Russell Wilson athletic quarterbacks, the guys that are looking to
throw and are deadly accurate within the confines of the
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pocket or slightly out of the pocket. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show
weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific. Let's welcome to
Jason Lacking for he's CBS NFL Insider and uh, just
for people who don't know the Baltimore area is home,
he knows this franchise. Just my question is why play
Lamar on Thursday night? You got r G three is
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more than a competent backup. It would give him some
extra time to rest. He probably didn't have Mark Andrews
either for Thursday. Guys gonna be the league m v P.
You want him for the playoffs, and he thought to
not playing him even if he says he can go. No, no, no,
I don't think this is a serious situation. Um, there's
not a whole lot of practicing that's being done in
a short week like this. Anyway you're talking you know,
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walk throughs, and then nobody's coming close to putting on
the pade or anything like that. It's really a recovery week.
You don't have enough time, there's enough hours in the
day to do anything close to normal practice and get
your meetings in and do everything else. So I think
it was a significant uh concerned Um, and then yeah,
that might be a discussion to be had. But even Andrews,
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I mean, I wouldn't be stunned if he plays at
this point either, you know, again, unless the doctor's intervened.
But at this point, everything I've heard about that situation
is um, it was more of a precaution holding him
out the way they did. UM. Throughout the Buffalo game,
and and that he's been responding well, I mean, uh,
they're trying to get a number one seed. Um. You know,
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Lamar's played as well as anybody in in the league.
If it becomes a problem in the game, Um, something
gets aggravated or exacerbated. You're right. You know, RG been
through the wars, and while he's no longer anything close
to the athlete, Lamar is um certainly a capable backup,
but no, they feel they feel good about where Lamar is. Well,
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I played this this comm Let me play it for you.
This is Earl Thomas talking about how how teams have
been hitting Lamar every time so he hits him like
we like. Man, he don't need to be taking those hits,
and I think the REVS needs to pay with closer
attention to that as well, you know, and protect him
a little bit more, uh, because teams are trying to
do I'm not saying they're trying to hurt lamorre but
you know that they're definitely going on his legs more
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than they was doing it at first. My point is
that this is why I don't think they're going at
his legs or whatever. They're still not hitting him at
the mesh point. I don't think he's the future of
the NFL, just because we've seen guys that that run
this well, maybe not as well as Lamar, but they've
all gotten hit. They've all gotten hurt, like eventually, either
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either something happens with your legs in the turf or
something happens where you kind of get beat up. But
if they change the rules now to protect I don't
know how you would do it. Do you think they
will try and protect quarterbacks outside of the pocket in
any way close to how they protect him inside the pocket? Yeah?
I don't know, Um, how much you can do. I mean,
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at a certain point, you're a runner, right you you
have become a runner and the defense is going to
defend you like a runner. And while they have added certain, um,
you know, certain levels of protection for defenseless players, etcetera, etcetera. Um,
running with the football incurs certain risks and you will
get hit, and that's you know, that's just how it goes. Um.
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You know, have peoples taken a liberty here or there occasionally?
I guess perhaps, um, you know, maybe, But look, I
think Lamar is something like we've never seen before. He's
a different athlete. UM. There's a different energy about him,
the way teammates relate to him. He checks every box
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tangible and intangible, including being the best red zone passer
in the NFL and nineteen touchdowns, no interceptions, only two sacks, UM,
being able to throw the ball from different arm angles,
being able to account for different coverages, being able to
account for, let's face it, not the greatest um group
of pass catchers in the NFL. So UM, I think
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he has evolved in rapidly in a short period of time,
and everything in his history and work rate, UM and
determination shows will continue to evolve UM and and get
better in different ways. So I don't know it'll be
very interesting injuries that concerned for any NFL player. UM,
But I do think he's become better at running out
of bound, spinning off of hits, and trying to mitigate
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some of the contact he took a year ago. Doug
gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. Patriots offense continues
to struggle. Antonio Brown has openly opined to come back.
Is there any opportunity there? You think he returns to England?
As I've been he would be players pretty much unanimously
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but it's not their call. This is way over their
pay grade. This is an owner kip uh, this is
an owertip deal. This isn't even a Bill Belichick deal.
I don't know that Robert Kraft will do a m
on this. I get the sense that he won't, But
I also refused to completely rule out that possibility because
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of all the unique circumstances going on here, because they're
going for a number seven, because the quarterback is forty
two years old and doesn't have a contract, because they're
struggling to winning are and he would be the one
element that they absolutely precisely need and the one they
lacked the most. Um. So I don't know, Doug. I mean,
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could somebody getting his ear, whether it's a Brady or
a Belichick. It's look, we're talking a couple of weeks
and then playoffs. Why don't you you know, why don't
you let him back in our building? I guess someone could,
but I think it would have to be Jonathan Craft.
They would have to literally come from the family. Um.
I'm not sure any football people are going to convince
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him at this point. Jason lockem for our guest in
the Dug Outlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. What do
you think ultimately becomes of this videotaping controversy. I think
it's a big deal. Um wrote a column about it today. Uh,
CBS Sports dot Com. Um, I've given what they have
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already been found guilty of, at least in the league's eyes,
given the various penalties they've paid, and given that they've
been stripped of a first round pick for illegal videotaping
in the past and had other instances of serious allegations
against them. To even go down this road for me
as a bridge too far to even think, like, yeah,
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we don't have any reason to have a camera crew
at this game whatsoever. But let's say if the Browns
to let us in the press box, like you want
to make that request in the preseason cent or whatever. Maybe,
I mean we're talking week fifteen and the playoff push
and other teams are supposed to give you and and
somehow the Browns did give you permission to do a
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vignette or an advanced scout from their press box. Like
what do you think Bill Belichick and Stacy James and
their PR department would say if, say, Cincinnati set them
a request last week? Hey, Um, we would have shoot
one of our scouts advancing the Kansas City, New England
game in Fox Burrow. What do you think the answer
would have been, No, I don't think it would have
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I think it would have been not just no, I
think it would have been bleep. No. It's sort of
been credulous, like you really are. This is what you're
asking us, you know, Week four team, So you would
ever happen? They're they're admitting we did something we're not
supposed to do, and the Bengals are saying they did
something they're not supposed to do. And unlike in the past,
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we're just the league only had the tape. The Bengals
have the tape, and I'm told the Bengals aren't sensed
by what's on the tape. So if all that's true,
I don't care how it happened. I don't care if
it was somebody going rogue or whatever. When it's something
like this and it involves the Patriots and videotape, they
better know the rules and follow the rules the way
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Belichick and Ernie Adams parapart in the rulebook every year,
to know every little loophole in and out better than
the officials. Themselves too. That's the level they should be
held to. They fell far from it is in the past,
falling far from it has resulted in losing a one
multiple times. I think this puts you to start there
and maybe include multiple ones depending on what the league
finds out. Wow, Jason Lockham Flora joining us, I would
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only point this out. Any tape that has Bengals football
on it would be disturbing to watch. That's only eight minutes,
So I think we can all get through that. Fair, fair, fair, Well,
all depends. Have you seen something. There's been some bad
eight minutes of football with the Cincinnati Bengals. Jason knocking
for our guest in the Doug Gotlip Show. Any chance
Troy then goes to the Cowboys for a Yeah, as
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a coach front office. Oh, I hadn't heard anything about that.
I'm not you know what I mean, I don't know
that that's something that would entest Troy and I don't
I don't know give it. At the end of the day,
it's Jerry and Stephens show, and and Jerry's remarks this
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week have only put an exclamation on that, you know
what I mean. Look, I think Will McClay does a
really good job there. I mean, could they use more
eyes and ears or whatever? I guess so, but I
think you have to be real about whatever the title is,
who's really in charge. We know who's really in charge.
So I'm I'm not sure that would be a fit,
but I'm I'm with you. Actually, Troy said kind of
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what you're saying to take a listen that this is
this is Troy. Well, I'll get it for you Troy
Igman earlier day because Dan Patrick brought it up. There's
been other questions where he's kind of insinuated Troy has
that he might consider it. What what's weird about the
whole thing is no one I know thinks the front
office part is the issue, maybe the interaction or or overreaching.
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It's more the coaching and the players more than the
front office. Like they have a talented team, there's something missing,
and the thought is that coaching and cohesion is what's missing. Guys,
we have that we're trying to uh, all right, we don't.
We don't have it for you yet. Um okay, So
I would just say that I think the problem is
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cultural and the players know that Jerry's picked us, and
Jerry's paid us, and nothing happened in this building that
Jerry does to sign off on. So he likes us.
He thinks every year his roster is better than the
rest of the league does. So that alone, I think
creative scenario where he's on the hype treet and then
when they don't go to the super Bowl, it's it's
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always something else, right, So because how can Because we're
his guys, we're made men, you know. So I think
it's baked into their cake that they buy their own,
their own hype in that market, and and everybody being
fired up because of the cowboys at the big Hoopla
and going out to l A for three weeks, having
training camp out there, and you know, it's just it's
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it's it's like perpetual, you know, pure leading, and literally
the owners boxers also picking the players. Um well, I
don't even know that. I mean, I think that Jay
Garrett started an extraordinary job. Heck no, But is the
next guy gonna go there and be the one who
breaks the chain. I'm not sure who is the next guy.
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I think it's Lincoln Riley or Matt Rule. Matt Rule
be interesting, that will be interesting. Yeah, I don't I
don't know if it's Lincoln Riley right, because you're you're
an emperor when you're in Oklahoma and you have better
players everybody else. When you're at Baylor, you're not. So
it's it's not at Oklahoma, You're gonna line up and
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have better players in the other team ninet the time.
I guess, But I was said this on our six
six podcast this week. I didn't really think about it
before I said it, but it kind of ranked to
how many big games in Oklahoma, how many times for
people in America outside of the Oklahoma there's one game
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every weeping week and they're all prime time six times
a year just because of the start. And if there
maybe it's eight and everything is huge, and I got it.
But when Okay, here's here's the other side to it.
The other side to it is, do you want to
coach a game and lose the game? Go into your
coach's office, right you're meeting with your coaches and your
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owners out there, you know, breaking down what you did
and what you didn't do. No one does that at
Oklahoma and Oklahoma you get to set the narrative however
you want. You're you're the guy. You know, you have
your athletic director, but he's there to raise money make
sure that you don't step out of bounds and break
into your rules. Like that's kind of it. So I'm
not disagree. Like there is no bigger job in the
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sport than head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, but one
it's not as powerful job as some other head coaching jobs,
as as you pointed out earlier and too, there are
some issues that come with it would make it a
lot less fun even if and when you do succeed,
I guess. But even with Jerry doing holding court after
a game, because Jason Garrett's his guy, because he favors
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his guys, because guys become Bate been there with him,
because it personal Jason Garrett, It's probably got how many
four millions Jason Garrett got Jerry that he probably would
anywhere else if he wasn't in their family, you know.
So I mean he's not gonna get Lincoln Riley and
be like, oh, you better win a super Bowl right now,
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you know, Like I don't know. I think that's where
it cuts both ways. Jason Luckett for Our Guests and
The Goutlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Um, okay,
what about Cleveland. You know Odell Beckham Jr. Last week
weird press conference. You know, I can't tell you. I
don't know if I want to be back next year. Now,
Baker Mayfield today came out and said, hey, I don't
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know either, but every conversation I've had with Obi J
says he wants to come back. It does feel. It
does feel, and there there's reports that he's told other teams, hey,
come and get me. It feels like that thing ain't
gonna work. Is there fixing that relationship? Well, I think
that's just that's like the on the Browns list of
things they need to sort out as an organization. I
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think that's kind of far down. I mean, they've got
him and a tap a task that he's not in
a position where he could save or really street his
way out of there. I mean, he wasn't around, you know,
all the time last offseason. Anyway, Um, I don't know
that O'Dell is going to go deacon on this thing.
You know the way that Jalen Ranty did pick it out,
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and you know the way Jalen got out of Jacksonville. Now,
Um saying all that, is it a great relationship. No,
the things that need to be patched up. Yeah, but
I think if they address some macro level things, then
it might alleviate some of these symptoms, right, I mean,
the Colts are what's going on with that offense? Why
does nobody other than Jarvis Landry look right in that
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passing game? How good is Baker Mayfield? How good does
Baker Mayfield think he is? And mean, is there a dichotomy?
There is Freddy Pittons really test to be the head coach,
offensive game plan installer and Sunday game you know, and
Sunday game manager and play collar you know what I mean?
And if not, then who is? And you know? And
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then you know, we'll get down the other personnel. But
I think they better do a whole lot of soul
searching at that level, you know, just to figure out
why have we found ourselves so far short of expectations
yet again? Jason lock Camp for great work. Check out
the Pick six podcast or read his work at CBS
sports dot com or check them out on cbs IS
coverage of the Nation Football League. Thanks so much for
joining us. Jay, always my pressure money focusing
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Garrett Cole was treated by the New York Yankees. Man Uh.
We discussed a little bit of um of favorite Movies
yesterday John Ramos with with Dan Buyer Um and What's
What's What's interesting about favorite movies? We were discussing it.
I said a few good men. It should be on
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anybody's top five, top ten list. I kind of gave
the challenge out to buy or sometime here at Christmas season.
It's great, just it's just a great flick. My daughter
is actually home sick from school today and I told her,
I was like, listen, you want a really good movie,
A few good men. What's it about? It's about It's
like thirteen. I don't there's no sc X scenes in
it right now, there's I think there's some language, there's
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some cons there's some graphic content a little bit, but
generally just a great movie anyway. December, the new Star
Wars comes out music. Are you a Star Wars Guide? Like?
Are you Wars? There aren't many people who are on
the level of John Ramos, but I do like Star Wars? Yes,
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What do you mean on the level John? Put the
figurines down? John? John? Really? I mean this is we
wonder why sometimes the drops aren't play at the right time.
It's because he got the It's kind of embarrassing he's
got the figurines out. John. When you would when you
would play in your mind, what character would you be
best suited for in Star Wars? What I always enjoyed
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Han Solo you of course, the swash buckling pirate who
ends up getting the girl in the end, right, I
love you? I know, which, of course is from the
best movie of the series. Right, no matter what they do,
no matter how good it is December and beyond, nothing
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will ever can ever match up to Empire Strikes Back. John,
you okay with me saying that? I am fine with
you saying that. Yes, Why, why in your mind is
it the best? I mean, I have my own theories
on it, my own beliefs in it. But it is
the best because the good guys do not win. Right.
It's a surprise ending. Not necessarily, it's not a m
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Night Shamalan surprise ending, but it's a it's a surprise
ending because the good guys don't all we don't win.
And that's not what we've been told, Right, that's not
what moviemaking with Hollywood has always told us. The good
guys win, and that's not Empire Strikes Back. Granted, that's
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not how the series first ended, nor will it ever
end with the bad guys winning. But that particular movie,
and and and the reason that the bad guys win
is kind of why I wanted to relate it to
the Yankees. I don't know if the Yankees are inherently
bad guys. I don't think Garrett Cole signing with them
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is an awful story for baseball, But it's about as
you thought, right. It's like the reason uh, you know,
the reason that the bad guys won in Empire Strikes
Back was they had all the power, right, they had
control of the Senate, they had all the power the Empire,
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they had more resources. It was it's easier to be
like with the Empire, right, remember the Remember at the
start of Empire Strikes Back, that's when they're on some
remote base right there, on some remote base, and Luke
goes out and he's he's you know, they're they're checking
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out for any sort of life form and basically like
an abominable snowman type of character captures him and keeps him.
It's about to eat him before he saved, right before
he saves himself, he escapes, and then he's got to
cut up in his own animal remember that, you know,
it smells, and he wraps himself in it to stay alive.
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They finally find him, but you remember that base, like
that base is like basically carved out. It's like in caves.
There's some remote planet, there's no nightlife, and he's hanging out,
no bar, no ladies, We're just hey, is we're just
for a good cause, trying to fight the evil Empire. Meanwhile,
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you shoot back to the Empire and their ships are nicer, right,
they got tracking systems and they just overwhelm you with
power and with resources. And either uniforms look clean like man,
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oh oh, that's the Yankees, right. The stadium is beautiful
and new and crisp and clean, but it does kind
of lack some sort of warmth, right, just like just
like the the the Empire's ships. I also think there's
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a little bit of we all we all have our
default right when and this is who the Yankees default is.
For the last four years or so, they've been getting
rid of big contracts, being smart with their money, right,
going out and say all right, we're gonna cut salary here,
we're gonna let that thing expire. CC Sabathia retires, We're
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gonna let him go into the sunset and young guys
and their club control. You know, obviously they did make
the big trade to acquire Giancarlo Stanton that does have
a substantial contract and maybe he's never been what Aaron
Aaron Judges, And eventually they had to pay Aaron Judge.
But Aaron Judge has been playing, you know, for less
than a million dollars so far in his career. Like
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they've been doing it smart, doing it right, doing it pennywise.
And then they're just like, yeah, that's fun. But you
know what else is really fun? Winning? And we're like
a couple of a picture or two away, so let's
just throw money at it. And that the latest report
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from John Hayman. And see what's he's he's uh fan
rags right, John Hayman's at fan rags now. And John
Hayman tweeted out that, uh, end of the day, Garrit
Cole just wanted to be a Yankee. He drove up
the hometown thing was overrated. Dodgers and Angels were above
three hundred million. He got the Yankees that throw in
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a ninth year, and why why not? Right? The Yankees
are They're always gonna have the resources. They got the
cool stadium, they got the cool logo, they got all
the players. All they need is a picture. Like they
may not win nine World Series, but they'll be in
the playoffs more often than not. You know, six seven,
eight of the years that you're gonna be there. The
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Yankees are gonna be there. The Angels are more some
remote and and I look, I get it. They paid
Mike Trout Moore than anybody else. But the Angels in
Los Angeles are more some room outpost where you're in
a cave for your uh, for your base. This is
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who the Yankees are. And and by the way, I
think it's a smart plan. I don't think that it's
dumb in any way for the Yankees to overspend, considering
they're like a picture away or maybe two pictures away.
And you went out and you got a guy who's solid,
never hurt, throws a bunch of ininning, strikes out a
bunch of people. But it makes sense. It makes more
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sense to them than it does the Angels. The Angels
are needed, the Angels need a pitching staff, The Yankees
need a picture. And the Yankees have money burning a
hole in their pockets, and why not go out and
spend it. This is their default, al right, have guys
under club control, pay some of those guys and then
pay huge money to a picture or two or three
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in order to actually win the World Series. But I
thought that is a parallel there where to to empire?
Strikes back, John, I don't know if I'm going too
far because I'm fired up about the Star Wars movie.
But they have all the cool stuff. They have all
the cool gadget tree. It's easier to be a member
the Empire than it is you know of uh, of
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the Rebel, Yeah, the Rebellion, the Rebel Alliance, the rebellion,
which just easier because you know you're gonna more times.
Not you're gonna win. Why you got better stuff, You
got more dudes. That's really the Empire and the good
guys don't always win. The good story doesn't always win.
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The Yankees one, the Yankees bid as much or more
than anybody else. They needed a picture. They threw money
in a problem. They're like, all right, is nine years smart?
Probably not, but we're gonna make it back. I don't
really matter. And they got what they wanted. So is
it a good story now? But that doesn't I mean,
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does it a happy ending now? But that doesn't make
it a bad story. You're a bad movie. In many ways,
it makes it a better movie. It's what made Return
of the Jedi so good because you knew that the
deck was severely stacked against you, right, remember in Return
of the Jedi and Return of the Jedi. You felt like,
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not only is the empire powerful and not only but
Luke now didn't have a hand, right, so he's dealing
with the fake hand. We also thought he couldn't confront
Vader because he couldn't handle his emotions, knowing he's his father.
Then there's his emperor fellow, who appears to be more
powerful than even Darth Vader. That's what the next bunch
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of baseball seasons are gonna be. It makes it even
better that the Yankees are bigger and more powerful. He
got Laboratorres, who is the best young player in the sport.
They got Aaron Judge and John Carlos stand the best
power hitting tandem in the sport. And now they go
out and get the most expensive starting pitcher in the sport.
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And they're the Yankees with the logo, and they can
absorb bad contracts and they can throw money at a problem,
which main Look, I don't know who the e walks
are going to be in Major League Baseball, but there's
gonna be some me walks who did level good e
walk right Ramos Ramos put down the e walk figurine. Yeah,
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I mean like, look, I like them too, and they're
actually my figurines, but playing with them during the show
is a little bit of arming. My point is simple.
I don't think it's a happy ending. I don't. I
don't think it's a Disney happy ending. Gared Cole pack
pitching for the Angels. The Angels the second team in
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Los Angeles. They call themselves Los Angeles but not Los Angeles.
And you'd have, you know, a hometown kid with Mike Trout,
and eventually Albert pool Holst rides into the sunset and
maybe the Angels and show hey Otani and like there's
your rebel alliance. But Garrett Cole was turned by money
and by the logo to the dark side. Be sure
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to catch the live edition of The Doug gott Leap
Show weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio wap SO. Lamar
Jackson is day to day with a quad injury. You know,
he says he's playing on playing tomorrow against the Jets,
and you start to ask yourself, like, look, if you're
the Ravens, you gotta think hard, long and hard about
playing r G three, don't you, right, Because now the
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Ravens are you forget about trying to prove to us
that your offense can work. What what is the win
over playing Lamar against it? Can you? Can you beat
the Jets with r G three as your quarterback? I mean,
if you ask me, the answer is yeah. Why why
would I If a guy has a quad injury, he's
my quarterback, he's my leader, he's very likely to be
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the league's MVP. Why would you? What's the winning playing
him on Thursday night? What's the And again, I'm not
a sit of guy. I've always been a sit dudes
if you can. And the way he plays puts himself
in harm's way. So sit him for Thursday, play him.
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Week seventeen was sixteen, And you want to sit in
week seventeen or play him? Sam is fine. Then you
have the week off summing, you have the bye, which
you should have, and then you're completely fresh, rested, ready
to go. And oh yeah, by the way, the less
tape the better, even though people have tape on what
you're trying to do. I would I would think long
and hard about starting r G three and not playing
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not not playing him at all. This was Earl Thomas
when he was talking about his quarterback taking hits to
take a listen to this every time. So while he
hits him like we like, man, he don't need to be
be taking those hits. And I think the Revs need
to pay with close attention to that as well, you know,
and protect him a little bit more, uh, because teams
are trying to do I'm not saying that trying to
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hurt the more, but you know that they're definitely going
on his legs more than they was doing it at first. Okay,
first thing is Earl needs to understand now are they
not doing anything special? They're still not hitting him at
the mesh point, still hitting him at the mesh point.
And maybe that's the Jets this week, or maybe it's
next week, or maybe we made to the playoffs, and
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everybody's like, ah, well, this is at some point because
the mesh point is I think most of your sports
fans and you know this, but the mesh point is
when he goes to hand the ball off to mark
ingram or keep it. There is a second there even
after he hands the ball off where you're allowed by
rule to clobber the quarterback and then once he if
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he holds out of the ball, you can hit the
quarterback low, you can hit him anywhere other than the helmet,
because once you leave the pocket, you're treated like a
running back. And why is it that we don't have
the same value to running backs as we used to
Because they haven't changed any of the rules to help
running backs. You can still hit a running back at
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or below the knee, right, You can't go helmet to helmet,
can't launch yourself, you can't do that with anyone. But
unlike a quarterback, you know, and there's no defenseless running
backs like the throw wide receivers. I've told you before
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that I believe Pat Mahomes and Russell Wilson are the
future of the NFL, right, And like the reason that
long term I remember this is a long ago argument
Carson Paul and Mike Vick about the same time, and
I said, like, look, I love watching Mike Vick play.
I love it. It's exciting. But if I'm betting on
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long term, on a long term stock, I'm betting on
Carson Palmer. Carson balm is a great athlete, but he's
agile within the pocket, but he can throw. And the
reason is all of the rules were designed then and
continue to be designed even more so to protect the
quarterback in the pocket. But if what Earl Thomas is
saying actually happened, where the NFL goes and says, hey,
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you know what, we gotta protect the quarterbacks outside of
the pocket. Now, I don't know how you'd You'd have
a mass revolt from defensive players and defensive coordinators. And
what do you do here? Like now, we can't hit
these guys in the pocket. We can't amount of the pocket.
They're just what we're supposed to do. Just let them
run into the end zone. We got to play tag
tag you're in. I don't know how you would execute it,
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but I do know this. If they change the rules
so that the same protections are similar protections are for
quarterbacks outside the pocket running the football as they are
inside the pocket, I will stand correct in. Lamar Jackson
could be the future of the National Football League. But
as the rules stand today, I go Mahomes, I would
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go Russell Wilson. Heck, I'd even I'd even go Kyler Murray.
You know, Kyler is tiny, and Kyler can run. But
Kyler really is a pocket thrower. He loves he can
throw the football. He's deadly accurate, whereas Lamar still not accurate.
Now they've they've done some really smart stuff to have
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him throw inside the numbers, two big targets. And he's
crazy athletic. And this isn't a lack of This isn't
a questioning of his toughness. This is just the reality
of it only takes one hit planting the foot one time.
We've seen it too many or or it's just the
little hits that add up and beat you up, much
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like Cam Newton. If they change the rules, I will
stand corrected and tell you he's the future. The rules
as they stand now, going with Pat Mahomes, going with
Russell Wilson athletic quarterbacks, the guys that are looking to
throw and are deadly accurate within the confines of the
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pocket or slightly out of the pocket. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show
weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific. Let's welcome to
Jason Lacking for he's CBS NFL Insider and uh, just
for people who don't know the Baltimore area is home,
he knows this franchise. Just my question is why play
Lamar on Thursday night? You got r G three is
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more than a competent backup. It would give him some
extra time to rest. He probably didn't have Mark Andrews
either for Thursday. Guys gonna be the league m v P.
You want him for the playoffs, and he thought to
not playing him even if he says he can go. No, no, no,
I don't think this is a serious situation. Um, there's
not a whole lot of practicing that's being done in
a short week like this. Anyway you're talking you know,
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walk throughs, and then nobody's coming close to putting on
the pade or anything like that. It's really a recovery week.
You don't have enough time, there's enough hours in the
day to do anything close to normal practice and get
your meetings in and do everything else. So I think
it was a significant uh concerned Um, and then yeah,
that might be a discussion to be had. But even Andrews,
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I mean, I wouldn't be stunned if he plays at
this point either, you know, again, unless the doctor's intervened.
But at this point, everything I've heard about that situation
is um, it was more of a precaution holding him
out the way they did. UM. Throughout the Buffalo game,
and and that he's been responding well, I mean, uh,
they're trying to get a number one seed. Um. You know,
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Lamar's played as well as anybody in in the league.
If it becomes a problem in the game, Um, something
gets aggravated or exacerbated. You're right. You know, RG been
through the wars, and while he's no longer anything close
to the athlete, Lamar is um certainly a capable backup,
but no, they feel they feel good about where Lamar is. Well,
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I played this this comm Let me play it for you.
This is Earl Thomas talking about how how teams have
been hitting Lamar every time so he hits him like
we like. Man, he don't need to be taking those hits,
and I think the REVS needs to pay with closer
attention to that as well, you know, and protect him
a little bit more, uh, because teams are trying to
do I'm not saying they're trying to hurt lamorre but
you know that they're definitely going on his legs more
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than they was doing it at first. My point is
that this is why I don't think they're going at
his legs or whatever. They're still not hitting him at
the mesh point. I don't think he's the future of
the NFL, just because we've seen guys that that run
this well, maybe not as well as Lamar, but they've
all gotten hit. They've all gotten hurt, like eventually, either
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either something happens with your legs in the turf or
something happens where you kind of get beat up. But
if they change the rules now to protect I don't
know how you would do it. Do you think they
will try and protect quarterbacks outside of the pocket in
any way close to how they protect him inside the pocket? Yeah?
I don't know, Um, how much you can do. I mean,
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at a certain point, you're a runner, right you you
have become a runner and the defense is going to
defend you like a runner. And while they have added certain, um,
you know, certain levels of protection for defenseless players, etcetera, etcetera. Um,
running with the football incurs certain risks and you will
get hit, and that's you know, that's just how it goes. Um.
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You know, have peoples taken a liberty here or there occasionally?
I guess perhaps, um, you know, maybe, But look, I
think Lamar is something like we've never seen before. He's
a different athlete. UM. There's a different energy about him,
the way teammates relate to him. He checks every box
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tangible and intangible, including being the best red zone passer
in the NFL and nineteen touchdowns, no interceptions, only two sacks, UM,
being able to throw the ball from different arm angles,
being able to account for different coverages, being able to
account for, let's face it, not the greatest um group
of pass catchers in the NFL. So UM, I think
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he has evolved in rapidly in a short period of time,
and everything in his history and work rate, UM and
determination shows will continue to evolve UM and and get
better in different ways. So I don't know it'll be
very interesting injuries that concerned for any NFL player. UM,
But I do think he's become better at running out
of bound, spinning off of hits, and trying to mitigate
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some of the contact he took a year ago. Doug
gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. Patriots offense continues
to struggle. Antonio Brown has openly opined to come back.
Is there any opportunity there? You think he returns to England?
As I've been he would be players pretty much unanimously
(23:05):
but it's not their call. This is way over their
pay grade. This is an owner kip uh, this is
an owertip deal. This isn't even a Bill Belichick deal.
I don't know that Robert Kraft will do a m
on this. I get the sense that he won't, But
I also refused to completely rule out that possibility because
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of all the unique circumstances going on here, because they're
going for a number seven, because the quarterback is forty
two years old and doesn't have a contract, because they're
struggling to winning are and he would be the one
element that they absolutely precisely need and the one they
lacked the most. Um. So I don't know, Doug. I mean,
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could somebody getting his ear, whether it's a Brady or
a Belichick. It's look, we're talking a couple of weeks
and then playoffs. Why don't you you know, why don't
you let him back in our building? I guess someone could,
but I think it would have to be Jonathan Craft.
They would have to literally come from the family. Um.
I'm not sure any football people are going to convince
(24:08):
him at this point. Jason lockem for our guest in
the Dug Outlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. What do
you think ultimately becomes of this videotaping controversy. I think
it's a big deal. Um wrote a column about it today. Uh,
CBS Sports dot Com. Um, I've given what they have
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already been found guilty of, at least in the league's eyes,
given the various penalties they've paid, and given that they've
been stripped of a first round pick for illegal videotaping
in the past and had other instances of serious allegations
against them. To even go down this road for me
as a bridge too far to even think, like, yeah,
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we don't have any reason to have a camera crew
at this game whatsoever. But let's say if the Browns
to let us in the press box, like you want
to make that request in the preseason cent or whatever. Maybe,
I mean we're talking week fifteen and the playoff push
and other teams are supposed to give you and and
somehow the Browns did give you permission to do a
(25:11):
vignette or an advanced scout from their press box. Like
what do you think Bill Belichick and Stacy James and
their PR department would say if, say, Cincinnati set them
a request last week? Hey, Um, we would have shoot
one of our scouts advancing the Kansas City, New England
game in Fox Burrow. What do you think the answer
would have been, No, I don't think it would have
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I think it would have been not just no, I
think it would have been bleep. No. It's sort of
been credulous, like you really are. This is what you're
asking us, you know, Week four team, So you would
ever happen? They're they're admitting we did something we're not
supposed to do, and the Bengals are saying they did
something they're not supposed to do. And unlike in the past,
(25:55):
we're just the league only had the tape. The Bengals
have the tape, and I'm told the Bengals aren't sensed
by what's on the tape. So if all that's true,
I don't care how it happened. I don't care if
it was somebody going rogue or whatever. When it's something
like this and it involves the Patriots and videotape, they
better know the rules and follow the rules the way
(26:15):
Belichick and Ernie Adams parapart in the rulebook every year,
to know every little loophole in and out better than
the officials. Themselves too. That's the level they should be
held to. They fell far from it is in the past,
falling far from it has resulted in losing a one
multiple times. I think this puts you to start there
and maybe include multiple ones depending on what the league
finds out. Wow, Jason Lockham Flora joining us, I would
(26:38):
only point this out. Any tape that has Bengals football
on it would be disturbing to watch. That's only eight minutes,
So I think we can all get through that. Fair, fair, fair, Well,
all depends. Have you seen something. There's been some bad
eight minutes of football with the Cincinnati Bengals. Jason knocking
for our guest in the Doug Gotlip Show. Any chance
Troy then goes to the Cowboys for a Yeah, as
(27:03):
a coach front office. Oh, I hadn't heard anything about that.
I'm not you know what I mean, I don't know
that that's something that would entest Troy and I don't
I don't know give it. At the end of the day,
it's Jerry and Stephens show, and and Jerry's remarks this
(27:24):
week have only put an exclamation on that, you know
what I mean. Look, I think Will McClay does a
really good job there. I mean, could they use more
eyes and ears or whatever? I guess so, but I
think you have to be real about whatever the title is,
who's really in charge. We know who's really in charge.
So I'm I'm not sure that would be a fit,
but I'm I'm with you. Actually, Troy said kind of
(27:46):
what you're saying to take a listen that this is
this is Troy. Well, I'll get it for you Troy
Igman earlier day because Dan Patrick brought it up. There's
been other questions where he's kind of insinuated Troy has
that he might consider it. What what's weird about the
whole thing is no one I know thinks the front
office part is the issue, maybe the interaction or or overreaching.
(28:10):
It's more the coaching and the players more than the
front office. Like they have a talented team, there's something missing,
and the thought is that coaching and cohesion is what's missing. Guys,
we have that we're trying to uh, all right, we don't.
We don't have it for you yet. Um okay, So
I would just say that I think the problem is
(28:32):
cultural and the players know that Jerry's picked us, and
Jerry's paid us, and nothing happened in this building that
Jerry does to sign off on. So he likes us.
He thinks every year his roster is better than the
rest of the league does. So that alone, I think
creative scenario where he's on the hype treet and then
when they don't go to the super Bowl, it's it's
(28:53):
always something else, right, So because how can Because we're
his guys, we're made men, you know. So I think
it's baked into their cake that they buy their own,
their own hype in that market, and and everybody being
fired up because of the cowboys at the big Hoopla
and going out to l A for three weeks, having
training camp out there, and you know, it's just it's
(29:15):
it's it's like perpetual, you know, pure leading, and literally
the owners boxers also picking the players. Um well, I
don't even know that. I mean, I think that Jay
Garrett started an extraordinary job. Heck no, But is the
next guy gonna go there and be the one who
breaks the chain. I'm not sure who is the next guy.
(29:36):
I think it's Lincoln Riley or Matt Rule. Matt Rule
be interesting, that will be interesting. Yeah, I don't I
don't know if it's Lincoln Riley right, because you're you're
an emperor when you're in Oklahoma and you have better
players everybody else. When you're at Baylor, you're not. So
it's it's not at Oklahoma, You're gonna line up and
(29:58):
have better players in the other team ninet the time.
I guess, But I was said this on our six
six podcast this week. I didn't really think about it
before I said it, but it kind of ranked to
how many big games in Oklahoma, how many times for
people in America outside of the Oklahoma there's one game
(30:20):
every weeping week and they're all prime time six times
a year just because of the start. And if there
maybe it's eight and everything is huge, and I got it.
But when Okay, here's here's the other side to it.
The other side to it is, do you want to
coach a game and lose the game? Go into your
coach's office, right you're meeting with your coaches and your
(30:42):
owners out there, you know, breaking down what you did
and what you didn't do. No one does that at
Oklahoma and Oklahoma you get to set the narrative however
you want. You're you're the guy. You know, you have
your athletic director, but he's there to raise money make
sure that you don't step out of bounds and break
into your rules. Like that's kind of it. So I'm
not disagree. Like there is no bigger job in the
(31:02):
sport than head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, but one
it's not as powerful job as some other head coaching jobs,
as as you pointed out earlier and too, there are
some issues that come with it would make it a
lot less fun even if and when you do succeed,
I guess. But even with Jerry doing holding court after
a game, because Jason Garrett's his guy, because he favors
(31:26):
his guys, because guys become Bate been there with him,
because it personal Jason Garrett, It's probably got how many
four millions Jason Garrett got Jerry that he probably would
anywhere else if he wasn't in their family, you know.
So I mean he's not gonna get Lincoln Riley and
be like, oh, you better win a super Bowl right now,
(31:46):
you know, Like I don't know. I think that's where
it cuts both ways. Jason Luckett for Our Guests and
The Goutlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Um, okay,
what about Cleveland. You know Odell Beckham Jr. Last week
weird press conference. You know, I can't tell you. I
don't know if I want to be back next year. Now,
Baker Mayfield today came out and said, hey, I don't
(32:08):
know either, but every conversation I've had with Obi J
says he wants to come back. It does feel. It
does feel, and there there's reports that he's told other teams, hey,
come and get me. It feels like that thing ain't
gonna work. Is there fixing that relationship? Well, I think
that's just that's like the on the Browns list of
things they need to sort out as an organization. I
(32:31):
think that's kind of far down. I mean, they've got
him and a tap a task that he's not in
a position where he could save or really street his
way out of there. I mean, he wasn't around, you know,
all the time last offseason. Anyway, Um, I don't know
that O'Dell is going to go deacon on this thing.
You know the way that Jalen Ranty did pick it out,
(32:54):
and you know the way Jalen got out of Jacksonville. Now,
Um saying all that, is it a great relationship. No,
the things that need to be patched up. Yeah, but
I think if they address some macro level things, then
it might alleviate some of these symptoms, right, I mean,
the Colts are what's going on with that offense? Why
does nobody other than Jarvis Landry look right in that
(33:15):
passing game? How good is Baker Mayfield? How good does
Baker Mayfield think he is? And mean, is there a dichotomy?
There is Freddy Pittons really test to be the head coach,
offensive game plan installer and Sunday game you know, and
Sunday game manager and play collar you know what I mean?
And if not, then who is? And you know? And
(33:36):
then you know, we'll get down the other personnel. But
I think they better do a whole lot of soul
searching at that level, you know, just to figure out
why have we found ourselves so far short of expectations
yet again? Jason lock Camp for great work. Check out
the Pick six podcast or read his work at CBS
sports dot com or check them out on cbs IS
coverage of the Nation Football League. Thanks so much for
joining us. Jay, always my pressure money focusing
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