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of the Doug Gottli Show on Fox Sports Radio. I
think that we are as close as we have been
to not knowing if baseball is going to be back
or not. Thank you very much Baseball. Within the past hour,
with a fast hour, we have had reports of Major
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League Baseball closing in on a deal involving pro rated salaries,
expanded playoffs, more money. Then twenty eight minutes ago, no
deal is close yet twenty eight minutes ago, new pro
posal sent to the Players Association from Major League Baseball.
My goodness, this even when it wants to end, Jonas,
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this fight between the union and the owners still never ends.
The players like, listen, we don't want to negotiate anymore,
and the owners like, no, we're gonna make you negotiate.
You're gonna negotiate whether you like it or not. And
now we think, oh, guess what. For five minutes we
had the idea that maybe, just maybe we will have
Major League Baseball, and that has gone like the rest
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of this baseball off sea. Yeah, I don't think that
John Hayman's tweet actually was sent before Fox Sports Radio's
resident MLB ball washer Rob Parker, sent a screenshot of
it over to me, saying it was almost like his
without any comment, no further comment needed, just like, hey,
baseball's back, ready to save America. And then, like you said,
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thirteen minutes later, that's so fast. I just I don't.
I'm oh, it's I'm dizzy at this point. I don't.
I mean, there's been so many numbers thrown at us,
with the number of games that have been the proposals
that have been out there. And by the way, how
about all like if if baseball players, if you want
us to like not think that you're copying and pasting
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everybody else's tweet, then why don't you at least like
change the font or add a little something to it.
But this whole tell us when and where crap that's
going around. The only thing missing is a hashtag ad
at the end of it, in which it was basically
sent over by somebody in the p A who said, hey,
can you guys do us a favor going to social
media just copy and paste and sent this out. And
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literally every player copy and pasted it and just sent
it out. It was so obvious what's happening. But we
do think we get a little bit of good news
and then the harsh dose of reality comes right after that. Dan,
you know what, and I would even say this, I am,
I am to this point. And I realized this point yesterday. Uh,
and I just thought to myself, I don't think I
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care anymore. I mean, like I maybe once I see
a pitch being thrown, maybe seeing a batter step into
the plate. You know, we joked the other day, I said,
my fantasy Baseball league has been changed the the the
draft date has been changed minimum six times, because it
was it was March, and then it was another date
in March, then it was May, and it was another
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date in May, and now it's June, and now it's
another date in June. Like this just is It's over
and over and over again and and and and listen,
I don't blame insiders for reporting what they know, and
maybe John Hayman has intel that other insiders don't have
at this point. But it's just the simple fact of
where we thought we were going to get baseball when
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Rob Manfred said a week ago and and and he's
he's gotten a lot of flak forward of unequivocally we
will have baseball, and then the negotiations stopped. So it's like,
all right, just institute your season, however you're gonna do it.
And even that couldn't even that couldn't be concrete. And
it's at that point that are sitting here not only
as sports talk show host jonas or personalities or or newsmen,
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we are sitting here as baseball fans. And I just
kind of got to the point where I'm like, you
know what, whatever you want to do, just fine, just
do it. Will well maybe we'll watch, maybe we won't.
But the fact that since here and worry about everything
that is going on to me is just pretty absurd. Well,
I've already said it's too late. It's already too late.
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That your your your opportunity, your platform, unopposed to everything else,
is gone. That's over. Because even if something does get
confirmed today and what John Hayman reported is correct, and
they get a deal done. We're still talking three weeks
of spring training, right, So if we're talking three weeks
of spring training, that means you're starting the season in
mid July neat and two weeks later we've got NBA
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playoffs to look at, like, like, what what if do
you think are people going to be more fascinated by watching, uh,
the Rays play in an empty dome or or the
NBA play the most unique looking playoff format they've ever
had inside a bubble, uh, in which you don't know
whether or not guys have been have been sneaking out
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to go to the park or write in the teacups,
or whatever the case. Maybe I think Major League Baseball
has already missed their opportunity. They had. They had an
open playing field, no pun intended. They had an open
opportunity to be the only thing going. And they waited around,
and they waited around, and they bickered for far too long.
And I said this a week ago or two weeks ago,
I said, this is no longer about which side you
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agree with. It's about the fact that both sides made
a choice that they were going to put their feet
in the ground and working a budge, or at least
not budge enough to get something done. And while they
were doing that, the world was passing them by. An
opportunity was lost. It's so much more difficult to get
hundreds of players on the same page than thirty people.
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All right, I mean like to so, so what to
me is most amazing Jonas about this? In to your
point of of these the sides digging in their heels,
it is a much greater accomplishment in my mind that
the players Union got on the same page and said,
all right, this is what we're gonna do. We're not
going to take a pay cut in addition to our
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pro rated salaries. We agreed on that in March, we
are not going to take an additional pay cut in
in our for our money's when you have owners, we're
only thirty of them are a part of all of this,
and that's a lot easier to get on the same page.
But now, as we also come to find out, you
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can't even get thirty owners who are on the same
page because six or eight of them don't even want
to have I want to have a season. And this
is all within the last twenty four hours. So at
one point we came from a fractured ownership group, which
is a lot easier to get on the same page
when you have thirty guys to now being close to
an agreement or having an agreement. I don't know what
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to expect. I don't care anymore. I don't. I don't
care about saying, wow, it'll be neat to see how
the forty eight games are played, because each game is
more valuable. Can someone hit five hundred in the season?
I don't care. I don't. The the union just tweeted
out reports of an agreement are false, that from the
MLB p A. I don't care. You know what your
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next tweet should be, we are we were told we're
playing baseball here, or we're told we're not playing baseball.
That should be the tweet. I'm done with all of
this back and forth. Yeah, I just uh this whole thing,
And and I never try and do this because I
don't think it's it's realistic to where you try and
take a professional athlete or a professional owner of a
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team and then try and compare them to the everyday
guy out there or a person that maybe owns a
business that's that's having financial issues. I try not to
do that. I try not to think with with my
wallet when it comes to anybody else's business, because it's
just it's not an apple stapples comparison. But I will
say this at a time when businesses are un willingly
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having to close their doors because a pandemic was thrown
into their lap like a pipe bomb, without without any
warning whatsoever, and their entire life's work is down the tube.
They would love nothing more than to be able to work,
but they can't. You've got owners around Major League Baseball
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who can work, but they don't want to. It's just
like it's great, Like it is the most they they
have come across as the most unrelatable league of all
the leagues that are going right now. You could say
whatever you want about well, the you know, the NFL
is being a little bit reckless with this coronavirus and
they're just they're continuing on, you know, as as things.
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Say whatever you want about any other league, the UFC,
the w w E still still filming even though somebody
tested positive and they had to halt tapings in the
past couple of days. Say whatever you want, man, this
when you talk about unrelatability in the world sports, Baseball
is at the top of the list. And it's not
just owners, it's the players, it's everybody else involved. The
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freeze out of free agents, of of them not signing
Manny Machado or Bryce Harper j D. Martinez pales in
comparison to what you just talked about, like that was
the that was the big deal of Look at how
the owners are on the same page colluding to not
pay these free agents and these players now can't find
money anywhere. It's like, my goodness, how are the owners
doing that? This pales in comparison to that. I should
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weigh in because we are now getting an idea all
of the baseball insiders. I don't want to give credit
to one because they all now have the details of
what the latest owner's proposal is. A sixty game season
that would start July nineteen or the twenty so the
nineteen or full pro rated salary, expanded playoffs in one
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one plus the waving of any potential grievance, and all
of these things ings, or at least the last three
things have been something that has been a point of
contention with both of these sides. And by the way,
I think we need to get proper credit there. That
was courtesy of David Gascon who retweeted Ken Rosenthal. Why
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don't we just combine all of the insiders and make
him a name like Buster Nightingale? It was Dave Rosenthal con.
Can we come up with the best combined insider names
so when everybody tweets out the same information, we aren't
leaving anyone out of somebody who had it. By the way,
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the more information you've given your tweets, the more it
can hamper you because you will be seconds behind another insiders.
It is true, by the way, and I think Buster
Rosenthal is the one to go. That's Buster, Bob Nightingale Rosenthal.
It's I mean, so you would get sixty games full
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pro rated salary apparently no additional cuts, which, by the way,
the no additional cuts is something that the players Association wanted.
They would get paid. I guess twelve more games under
this scenario at their full salary. Maybe this is the number.
Guess what, Maybe it isn't. I don't care anymore. Just
tell me if you're gonna play baseball or not, and
then I'll decide if I want to care. Let me
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ask you this, if they would never do this, but
I'm just just thinking out loud here. Maybe I shouldn't
do this, but I'm gonna do it anyways. If teams,
as you walked into the stadium had a you know,
like you fill out like your information when you go
to a wedding, so they know who was there and
all that stuff at the front of the stadium, fans
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could go into the game, but they would wave any
sort of grievance against the team if for some reason
they did get the coronavirus. How many people do you
think would pack into some of these baseball stadiums? You
think four, because I think Wrigley Field would have you
think so I do. I think I think people are
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are so itching to get back out there and and
want to be like just get back to some sort
of a normal life that they were used to that
that I think, not that it would happen, but I
think I just wonder what no fans is really gonna
look like when it comes to baseball. I wonder, I
wonder how that would it would it be is noticeable
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Nascar with no fans, I didn't notice the damn thing
like I never watched NASCAR because of it. But like
Marlins Man, what is Marlin's man going to do with
his wife? Yeah, it doesn't have a lot of options,
like like show up in a Twitch game. But like
I think, like I look at baseball, and I look
at baseball as like one of the last reasons I
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go to the ball games to actually watch the game,
Like I go to tailgates, you know where I'm from,
or to maybe get some popcorn and a hot dog
and to chill out and to make sure I leave
by the by the eighth inning. Usually I'm a middle
of the eighth guy. That's that's usually when I leave.
So that's why that's why I think the number is low.
For my own personal opinion, maybe there are so many
people itching to go somewhere to to just take in
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something that is normal. But I just I look at
baseball for so many of the other things in the
actual ball game that I'm going to. Yeah, I think baseball,
of all the major sports, is the best in game
experience from a fan standpoint. It's so relaxed. Man, Like
you go to you go to some NFL games. You've
been to a Seahawks game, right, okay, but I've been doing. Okay,
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it's insane, all right, they are insane. Or you go
to some of these other football you've been to enough
of big time college games to where you go and
it's it's nuts, man. They're channing stuff you've never heard
of in your life. You don't even know what it means. Uh.
And then you hear after the fact that maybe means
something that it shouldn't mean, and all these other things
that are happening. But you go to a baseball game,
you can actually truly enjoy it. There's times where they
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have their issues and whatnot, but to be able to
sit back, relax, get a dog, get something to drink,
a hot dog. By the way, I'm not not endorsing
any animal violence, but get a hot dog, cracker jacks, whatever.
It is. The fact that they're not going to have that,
I just I wonder. I just wonder if people like
baseball more in being there at the stadium watching the game,
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or if they enjoy it more at home, because I
do think it's one of those sports it does play
better when you're there inside the stadium. I really do. Well.
John Tyler's chimed in the Ramo show on Monday was great.
So that from John Tyler. Sorry, just now listen to
the podcast. So the so the so the fifteen minutes
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we just did on baseball John Tyler tweets in Ramo
show on Monday was great. John. You know what it's
it's staying on top of the stories that are that
are the hottest that I love the best about the
listeners there. It is that from John Ramos. You will
have a new John Ramo show coming up today. By
the way, on second, what the hell did he just say?
Put it together right now? So I was a little
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bit off, all right, all right, but yeah listen, listen.
Can you not bother him during the show. He's trying
prepared for his show during our show. Come on, please
get it together? But no, so so we will. Who knows?
You think you think we're gonna have something set in
stone before the end of the show, Dan, you think,
I think no, absolutely not zero percent. My god, you're negative,
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Like thank god, I'm not negative like you, Dan. I'm
over it. Positive outlook on things. You come to me.
You want sixty Wrigley, by the way, I think they
can fit. It's it's basically like you know, sitting inside
a gumball machine like there's there's not enough people, not
enough room for that many people. Be sure to catch
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the live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays
at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the Heart Radio app. Friend of the program
spending studio many times talking about a lot of the
issues not only in the NBA, but also of what's
going on in this world. Corey Brewer joins the program
here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, Corey, how are you?
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I'm good? Good? Good? First of all, how's officially retired? Right? Like?
Basketball is? Basketball is now a part of the past.
Is that correct? That's it? Man, Not yet, that's it.
I'm still working out, never still still kicking it, still kicking.
Anything could happened, I still I'm still. I'm in really
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good shape right now. Hey, my phone range? All right?
Would you be willing to go to Orlando? Um? Yeah,
you know, if I get a call, I'll be willing
to go. You know, I feel like you no basketball
is you know, it's the NBA. You wanta you always
want to play basketball. It's a lot going on in
the world right now. I feel like we could use
that platform, even if you are in Orlando with all
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the all odds on, it's gonna be all odes on
the NBA once it starts back. I feel like that
platform can actually help the movement, Corey, From players you've
talked to that you know are still in the NBA
or even players that are recently out of the NBA,
do they are they more in favor of going to
play and using that platform, like you said, or do
they think right now is a good time to make
a statement and and really try and stand your ground
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to get some change in the country. Um, I've talked
to guys, and UM, it's been kind of both ways.
A lot of guys think, um, you know, we shouldn't
go play because the way it's going right now. If
we use our voice, we can make a change by
not playing. But then you have to look at the
other side to guys say, if we go back and play,
everybody's gonna be looking at basketball and you're able to
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use your platform to try to make a change also,
So I feel like, um, it's it's your personal preference
and both you can make a change both ways. Corey
Brewer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Not yet retired.
Still it's got some hooping him. He's Jonas Knocks. I'm
Dan Buyer. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. What is what is the percentage that is concerned?
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Because we heard there were about eighty players that were
on that Players Association call on Friday that's kind of
been spearheaded by Kyrie Irving. Is it more than than
eighty players? Could you ball park it at saying or fifty?
But how many players are actually do you think are
concerned with with restarting the season in Orlando? I feel
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like the majority of guys want to start the season.
They want to play basketball. But then you have a
few guys that are concerned about if it's going to
take away from making change in the world with the
all the protests and different things that we can do
to help change what's going on with all the police brutality,
and you know a lot of guys are also scared
of the COVID. It's um so it's two things. But
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I think most guys feel like um NBA's gonna do
a great job with making sure we're safe, and guys
want to go play. Corey, how much time would you
need to get ready to to play the season. Are
we talking a couple of weeks? Would you need more
than that you personally or guys that you've talked to,
How much time do you guys ideally want. I think
guys need two to four weeks for sure, you know,
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just to get back out there, um playing real basket ball,
getting it get back. It's gonna be tough to getting
game shape that quick, but I feel like guys have
been working out and they're gonna be ready. Corey Brewer
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. You can find
him on Twitter at the Corey Brewer. So if if there,
if there is a situation where we have a season
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it plays out, are other players, are other coaches going
to look at this champion that could be crowned as
a legitimate champion? Is there any concern that there would
not be as uh as much legitimacy to a championship
if a season played out under these circumstances. I think
it's always gonna be people that's gonna question that, just
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because it's a short, shorter season and with everything going on,
you don't have a home court advantage. You're all in
one neutral site, but in my mind, I feel like
it's gonna be it's gonna be tough to win the
championship with all the circumstances that you have. I feel
like this champion is going to be it's gonna be
tough to win the championship. So eevery wins it. You
gotta take your head off and give them the respect
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to too quick follow up on that, do you think
that the lower seeded teams have more of a chance
at trying to do something or with the maybe the
debt kind of being stacked against some of the top teams.
Is that how you look at how this can play out? Yeah,
I think it's gonna be some teams that, um, you
wouldn't normally give a chance, They're gonna have an opportunity
to makes some noise just because there's no home court advantage. Um,
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there's no travel and so it's gonna be even. It's
gonna be whoever playing, whoever is playing their best basketball.
Tom Corey Brewer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio
NBA VET NBA Champion with a Dan Buyer and myself
Jonah Snocks and for Doug got Leepier on FS are
all right, say Corey like a couple of weeks into it,
you're you're a little bit you know, you're getting a
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little stir crazy, and you're like, I gotta blow off
some steam. So you sneak out and you go get
a truro and you're like, you know, I just I
need something. I gotta get away from all this. And
then you find out that somebody dimes you out, They
call the snitch hotline and they rat you out and
you get in trouble for it. What kind of payback
are we talking about here? I mean, I mean, how
are you getting even when you find out some guy
ratted you out for going to get a churro or
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something off off site? Um, that would be an interesting
conversation that somebody, to be honest, I don't know about
the highline. I don't know. I don't think guys are
gonna snitch on each other, but you never know. Corey,
if you want to snitch on anybody, the number is
corn Dog. That's that's that's the number that you will
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need to to call if you if you find anybody
breaking protocol if you're in Orlando. Just figured it. Yeah, okay,
maybe not so much. Um, Corey Brewer joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio. There are so many crazy protocols.
What what is life on the road like? Because you
have read road trips that maybe have gone ten days,
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eleven days, maybe gone two weeks. In the NBA, guys
are gonna be asked to be gone for two months
from their spots. What are what are gonna be the
challenge that these guys have to deal with from being
away from home for so long. It's gonna be It's
gonna be mentally tough. You gotta be mentally shrum just
because you really can't. It's not like you're living a
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normal life. Like you can't go to a restaurant, you
can't go anywhere. You're You're gonna be on campus, the
Disney campus, you're at the hotel, or you're in the gym.
So I think um mentally it's gonna be tough for
guys because they're used to being able to do their
own things or being able to leave and go go
wherever they won't And also it's gonna be hard when
you're not around your family. I think that's gonna be
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the hardest thing. When you don't see your like your
kids and your wife for two months. That's that's tough,
especially if you have small children. I have small children,
so I think that would be the tough thing, Corey.
What would be the last one for me? For Corey
Brewer here on Fox Sports Radio, what would be the
worst city to be quarantined in? If they threw up
a bubble in any city? Which would be the worst
that would probably see the lowest attendants from NBA players
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The worst city? Man, It depends, I have no I
did right now, just because I haven't been anywhere for
so long, I can't even think of the suit. Is
a Sacramento? Is a Sacramento Sacramental? Actually wasn't bad. I
was there last year and it wasn't bad. But again,
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I had my family there, so I was going. I
was going to kids places like So when you get older,
I think the younger guys have they can ask that
question better because they want to get out and go place.
For me. If you gotta like when I was saying
you had a David Busters or I check your that
was fine. It's good enough. It's good enough for Corey Brewer, Well,
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we we appreciate the insight. And uh, I mean it's
gonna be crazy, and I apologize for retiring you early.
I mean, I really do so. Teams out there, teams
out there, what's that was gonna teams out there. Corey
Brewer is available and he'll go through all of the uh,
you know, the the the protocols that you have to
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go through. He is ready for Orlando. So Corey, my
bad on that. But we're glad to have you on
and it's great to talk to you again. You've been
in the studio a bunch of times with us and
always like talking. You appreciate it. I appreciate thanks for
having me. Be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter
noon Pacific. The Ravens have kind of had a rough
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season when it comes to the NFL playoffs the last
two seasons. The reigning NFL m v P Lamar Jackson
oh and two in his career in playoff games, Jonas
he joined the Complexes Load Management podcast and on that
podcast talked about last year's playoff loss to the Tennessee Titans.
That's the goal I gotta play right mere taking one
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game by time, not picking the head. That's what happened
in the playoffs. And end up losing to the team
people had us favorite over. But it's going to give
us something you can't as no team door opponent, and
that's what we did. So I'm looking for this twenty
season playing Browns first. That from Lamar Jackson and and
pretty I guess mundane comments nothing like headline grabbing. But
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I do think if you dig into it a little bit,
there are some interesting points of where the Ravens were,
where the Ravens are, and at what they can be.
Because it's surprising for me to hear Lamar Jackson say
that they underestimated the Tennessee Titans, considering it was a
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week prior that the Titans went to New England and
beat Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in the NFL playoffs.
Like that to me is that would that would raise
my attention span to be like, huh okay, maybe this
team has got something and by the way, completely one
dimensional football team as well. So I just if if
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you know that Tennessee is gonna come in after beating
the Patriots by running the ball down the throat, they're
probably gonna try to do the same, says a little
something to me. A little bit more that maybe the
Ravens just I don't know, we're oblivious to what happened
the week before, surprising that the Ravens would have underestimated
the Tennessee Titan. Well. John Harbaugh said earlier in the
off season that he regretted resting his starters in Week
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seventeen because, in essence, they played Week sixteen, they didn't
play Week seventeen. They had a buy in the first
round of the playoffs, so they went about twenty days
without taking a snap, And he said, you know, I
do you know, if I had to do it over again,
I would have done that differently. And then you got
Lamar Jackson talking about, oh, you know, we didn't really
take them all that seriously, and I'm just thinking, okay,
but you know what about last year. I mean, there
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was another home game the year before in which you
had the the l A Chargers coming to Baltimore, and
and this is a team that you um dominated in
l A just a few weeks earlier, and you lost
that game, and I'm just I'm just wondering if this
is all sort of a deflection towards the conversation that
we were all having in the moment at that time,
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which was you know, maybe Lamar Jackson is just not
a playoff quarterback. Maybe this is maybe this is the
first sign of of a flaw with Lamar Jackson, who
was fantastic one the m v P deserved the m
v P was phenomenal all year long, but DN two
post seasons in a row, he's come up small. And
when that happens, you do have to start questioning whether
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or not. If it happens once, it could happen to anybody,
But when it happens over and over again, then it
starts to become a little bit of a trend. And
I just wonder if this is a little bit of
a deflection off of no, no, no, it was us
that beat ourselves, not so much them. Well, no, maybe
maybe it's you that had a little bit of the
problem and the fact that we've seen it two years
in a Yeah, I think that. Yeah, the deflecting is
is definitely it's got to be a part of it.
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I mean, Lamar Jackson ended up throwing for a bunch
of yards in that playoff game, but there's an early interception,
there's the inability to tackle Derrick Henry. And I'm not
saying that that's easy, and that's something that I could do.
But I just you know, I look at the at
the Ravens, and as you pointed out, there's mixed messages coming.
There's hard boss saying that the layoff and by the way,
that that would have still been the case for them,
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and and maybe something going forward if when when we've
seen the new playoff format, this c ok the first
rund by really advantageous. Our team's rusty, since now the
second seed is gonna gonna have a playoff game. I
think all of that can be brought into this sort
of conversation. But to me, I put it on almost
on the shoulders of John Harbaugh of if that's the case,
if they were underprepared or or weren't ready to play,
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then it is the rest. Then it is not letting
his team know that this team just beat newing them,
or it's not letting the guys know that, Hey, the
year before, as you said, we lost to the Chargers,
so we do have something to prove and didn't earn
anything get anything from getting the top seed and having
home field advantage, even though it was the first time
in franchise history they actually had home field advantage. They
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didn't get anything yet, they didn't earn anything yet. And
I think that message seemed to be somewhat missed because
now we're hearing mixed messages coming out of Baltimore. I
just and look, you saw that game. Did you ever
get the impression that Baltimore had a chance in that game?
It felt like it was over early. And that was
always the thing about Baltimore, and everybody talked about it.
They were a front running team. They were really fun
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to watch and really enjoyable, and Lamar Jackson was awesome,
and they were just a breath of fresh air considering
everything was throw the ball, running, running gun, it felt
like in the NFL. And then you get this team
that runs these odd variations. They're pounding the football, but
when they trail in a game, you can get to them.
And when they went down early in that game, I
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swear that there was not one point in watching Baltimore
and Tennessee in the playoffs that I thought, oh no, no no, no,
I'm not concerned Baltimore will be back in this game.
That game felt over early. Yeah, it was fourteen nothing,
you know, Tennessee, And I'm looking at the just looking
at the rundown of it. Baltimore ended up turning it
over on downs starting the second half, Tennessee went down
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and scored and then they fumbled again and it was
six before you knew it. I mean, it was, it
was and and those things can happen, and those things
can happen with playoff teams. And it's not a it's
not a I don't want to pick up part the
words of Lamar Jackson, but there is now you think
that it's going to be any easier going into your
third play off game to try to prove people wrong
after the first two, you think you should really underestimate.
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I mean, and realistically, Jona stay of the easiest, the
easiest path of it, considering you got the sixth seed
to come to your place. You know, like like if
you're talking about seating wise, he was even you know,
easier than the first time around against the Bolts. And
also the other thing when you look at this situation,
and let's just let's just look at what we've seen
in recent years in the NFL. There's there's sort of
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a a an idea on how to win a Super Bowl,
and the one that's been used and you saw this
because the Seahawks really kind of introduced this to the NFL.
Was if you've got a rookie quarterback and you got
him on that rookie deal, you can build around him
before you have to pay him, because once you pay him,
it's a little bit more difficult to pay everybody else.
You start losing people. Well, man, I mean we're coming
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up on it's it's gonna be paid time, Like the
check is gonna be due when it comes to Lamar
Jackson and the Ravens and two straight years you had
a home playoff game and you blew it. Last year
you had a home playoff game and a by and
you blew it. Like it's not like you've got all
this time in the world. Like, I don't worry, We'll
be back next year. We know the NFL works, asked
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Dan Marino, if you're going to be back next year.
It doesn't work that way, especially in today's NFL. When
you start having to pay the quarterback, it makes it
really really difficult. And so if I'm a Ravens fan,
like yeah, you don't wanna, I'm And it's not me saying, oh,
you know, I'm out on Lamar Jackson as a playoff quarterback.
I'm not it's two games. I'm not gonna go crazy
thinking about it. But I think the reality is a
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is a is a real one in the fact that
you had to home playoff games. You lost both of those.
Now you're in year three. The schedule is insanely easy
from the standpoint of you don't travel outside the Central
time zone. If I'm not mistaken, I don't think they
go anywhere outside the Central time zone. And you've got
a lot of favorable matchups on your schedule and the
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timing breaks down. If Baltimore doesn't do it this year,
are they ever gonna do it? And I think that's
a real question moving forward. I was surprised with the
stat that last year was the first time that they
had home field advantage. Like when you think about like,
you know, the Super Bowl winning teams and yeah, those
times it didn't happen. So you want to talk about
rare occurrences and getting it done. Uh, yeah, there was
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no better time than last year, and they didn't do it.
We'll see if it changes. Of course, the Madden curse
was put aside by what Patrick mahomes last year. Now
Lamar Jackson will have the opportunity to continue that non curse.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
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New John Ramo Show coming up at the bottom of
the hour. He is Jonas Knocks. I'm Dan Buyer sitting
in for Doug. Today, John Ramos is here, David gas
Guns at the news desk. He'll give us the latest
of what's happening right before that John Ramos show. And
again today is a Gavin Kinzil production following. I think
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later on today we have a this is a lead
laporate action coming up. So just that's inside joke here.
I've always felt that the guys who produced the show
should have their own stinger like you would see at
the what end of a TV show maybe and just
so they you could have their fingerprints all over it.
But we got a new John Ramo show coming up
in ten I don't think we have enough room in
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the system because we have to add another Ramos drop it.
That's true. If the John Ramos show false flat today, uh,
it still wouldn't be the worst idea that we had
heard in the month of June, because that award has
already been locked up by one Kyrie Irving of the
Brooklyn Nuts and the whole hubbub of not wanting players
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to go to Orlando and trying to get them to
stand up and be a part of social reform according
to Kyrie in changing uh the direction of the NBA resuming,
Kyrie maybe leading a charge to put it to a halt.
We also found out this nugget I believe it was
it was the New York Daily News. Was that where
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it was from that reported that Kyrie Irving and this
is also throughout the season is thrown feelers out there
two players in the league says that the players should
consider starting their own league. I think one of the
top five worst ideas that we've had in sports. And
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and then like I love the response, Like once the
report came out, Kyrie left the group chat. This is
this is why, this is why people have a hard
time taking some of these NBA stories seriously. Like, I
think this is also part of the reason why the
ratings have sagged because instead of like talking about stuff
like you know, actually involving basketball, it's hey, did you
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hear that Draymond Green liked a tweet that was bashing
Aisha Curry, like this is what the NBA has been
come manol, Yeah, with a gossip. It's so if the
NBA players broke off formed their own league, some of
the players, would you cheer for the Golden State Warriors
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or in this case, the Draymond Green Giants, Like I'm sorry,
one is a little bit more work of name recognition
in branding. I have no idea how the players would
think that they would get paid to do this. Maybe
sponsorships come in, but the the whole idea of just
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we'll start our own league. Okay, all right, go ahead
and do that. Let's see that. And and there was
a report that Kevin Durant was approached on the topic
during the season and he wasn't a big fan of it.
But it is to me one of the craziest and
i'll just say worst ideas that I have heard in
sports over the over. I wouldn't even say the last year,
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like this could go back twenty some years if we
want to go that far. It's like when you're sitting
around with your buddies and your hammered and one of
them goes man, we should open a car wash, and
for about like ten minutes you're like, yeah, dude, like
we could do that. And then you wake up the
next morning and go, what like what you're looking to
your search history? Like what jiffy lup? What was I
looking at? We we always talk about Food Network and
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we always always already have today. Do you ever watch
Restaurant and Possible with Robert Irvine? Did you ever see that? Can't?
I don't trust it? Trust it? Well, the point is
is he always encounters people who wanted to open a
restaurant because everybody thinks that their recipe for meat loaf
or fried chicken is just gonna sweep the town off
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their feet, it's going to be the place that everybody
like wants to go, and it's not the case. And
he's always like, you know, the people are like, yeah,
I was in you know, marketing for twenty years and
I just wanted to open a business. And he's like,
why would you want to do that? You know, why
would you want to open a restaurant? Yeah, it's an
awful idea. To pain in the ass. My brother owns
a restaurant to pain in the ass. Pain in the ass.
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He's own two restaurants. It's a pain in the ass.
The hours are on. God. Lie, the stuff you think
is a great idea, you realize two weeks and nobody's
buying and it's a waste of product. Like it's a
it's a terrible idea. You've really got to sacrifice everything
for it. And so the idea that Kyrie Irving was
sitting around, you know, probably drinking whatever alcohol he was
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asking for on the Orlando trip when they're on the
original call and he's like, you know, we should do
we should start our own league. Yeah, that's a good idea.
That's a good one. How want you design a space
shuttle while you're at it too? Like you like my
logo for my team? Uh? Speaking of bad to go
along those lines, I think it rivals some of some
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bad ideas we've had in sports. I think Kyrie's top five,
I really do. I think, Yeah, I think it's bad.
I I will go along with home field advantage for
the World Series, for the All Star Game. And the
reason I bring it up because I just remember one
year Hank Blaylock of the Texas Rangers won the All
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Star Game for the American when Texas was like thirty
games out of first place, so you're having last place
teams to determine who could win the World Series or
who's gonna have home field. It made no sense. And
I know they were trying to get the All Star
Game to be interesting and to be exciting. I just
thought it was absolutely horrendous. And the guys at the
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end that we're playing at the end of those games
likely weren't going to be in a pendant chase anyway,
because you had to have the one representative from each team.
So I think that is a top five bad idea
of all time in sports. Yeah, you remember that one
time when the NFL DAN thought it would be a
good idea to have pass interfere interviews. Such a good
idea it was, I mean it was so seamless. I mean,
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it works so well and was really effective, you know,
because officials were tired of getting criticized, so they just
pretended like, no, it's not conclusive. What do you mean
it's not conclusive. He's you know, but a little wishy
washy here. That was a the idea. The intent was good,
horrible execution, thus horrible idea. That was eliminated after a year.
Now there's a there's a problem. Okay, there's a problem
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in college football, all right. There. The the problem in
college football is that games go too long. Okay, they
they go three and a half four hours. Well, if
you remember about fourteen years ago, in a way to
speed up the game, college football decided that, you know what,
We're gonna start the game clock after the kickoff following
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a score. So think about that. There's a touchback and
then the clock starts and you have to run your
offense on the field because the game clock is running out.
See I had forgotten about that. I I that completely
went over my head, and then you described it, and
I thought, no, it's gotta be a joke. Michigan and
Ohio State played a one versus two game, unbeaten game
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in the century. Michigan scores gets the two point conversion
to move within three. This is with two thirteen left
to go in the game, didn't have any time outs left.
Ohio State ran out the clock because you had forty
extra seconds that you could run off the game clock.
So that was that was one of the worst ideas
to shorten college football. And obviously the rule not there anymore.
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So Dan the uh w b C is a boxing organization,
one of the sanctioning bodies, And so they had this
fight card in Mexico. This is years and years probably
about twelve years ago, and um on this card in Mexican.
I think Nate Campbell was one of the guys that
was fighting on this card. Alap Maskayoff I think was
one of those guys that fought on the card. But
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they decided, you know what, why don't we try something different,
Why don't we read the judges scorecards in between rounds.
You know, everybody's complaining, everybody's complaining about getting burned by
the judging all the time, and so it's like, hey,
why don't we do open scoring. Let's expose these people
when it comes to scoring these fights. And then all
of a sudden, it came to the end of the
fight and they go to read off the score cards
and people already leaving because you know, we already know,
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like the the the excitement, the the big unveil, the
surprise at the end, now we already knew it. Like
it's like it's like giving somebody a Christmas gift with
no rapping on it, Like, hey, try and guess this. Well,
it says Spalding and it's round I'm gonna go with
a basketball. What do you mean? Uh? He needs to
win this round ten one. It's like the dumbest. That's
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why whenever there's a bad score to fight and people
run with these that should be open scoring. I go listen.
I know that seems like a really good idea. It's horrible.
I've seen it play out before. It was awful. Oh man,
I as long as he doesn't get knocked down eighteen
times in this round, I think we're good. I just
don't know, like who who thinks of that crap? Man?
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I mean it's it's like, you know, if you had
an announcer and you wanted to do something special with
him on the sidelines, you know, Dan he By the way,
I wanted to put the n C double a tournament
expanding from six to sixty five and out of sight.
But those ideas are actually worse. I mean, I didn't
like the expansion of the tournament, but nothing tops what
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happened in boxing or college football, or the nfl A,
Major League Baseball, or Kyrie's idea for that matter. I
didn't I honestly did not even remember that college football thing.
Like for like, I I looked the thought it was
a good thought, but my god, did anybody think that through?
Did anybody think about all the possible scenarios of that happening?
It was? I mean, think about that, like the guy
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takes a knee and you gotta have your uh offense
sprint on the field and listen. And I'm and I'm
and I've said this before out here on the West Coast,
the CBS, the SEC on CBS games that start at
twelve thirty when like you know, the four thirty Pacific
seven thirty Eastern time games are kicking off and there's
six minutes left in the fourth quarter in Baton Rouge.
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Maybe we gotta speed this thing up a little bit,
you know, just saying it's like, maybe maybe we gotta
do something here. And that happens all the time in
college football. And you can find John Ramos. Does you're
getting any better than this? I think it's the John
Ramo Shows, the John Ramo Show, Ramo Show, This is
(43:11):
the John Ramino Sports on Box Radio. Here's John Ramos.
He says exactly what Suzanne tells us to say. Yeah,
all right, welcome to the John Rama Show special Father's
Day edition. It's Wacky Wednesday. Just hashtag the John Rama
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Show on this Wacky Wednesday. What's wacky with you? Is
it when your clothes don't match? Is it when your
clothes represent two different teams? How about the wackiness of
telling us your next endeavor in sports on Twitter? And
nobody cares? Pretty wacky? Huh? By the way, it's National
Toe Day. Do you guys know that my favorite one
is the big toe? Dannon Jonas, what's yours? Well, enough
(43:56):
of the small talk, Let's get the show on the road.
My regular side kick Ryan Music not here today again.
In his place is my second favorite Chargers fan, Gavin
kinsel g K. What is going on? Until that shot?
It was great to be here on another John Ramos show.
Hashtag the John Ramos Show. Yeah. Even looks like MLB
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Commissioner Rob man Ford is now reaching out one last
time to try and get the MLB season started, but
it's still could be canceled. Gavin, I can really relate
to those players, though, what do you mean? John well
Susannah has threatened to restart our love life after canceling
it for the last nineteen months. Oh my god, a
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c green thought, He added, hard, does taking steroids really
mean you're a bad person? That's next on the John
Ramos Show, Dan, I'm gonna run across the street. Okay, yeah,
go ahead. Do you want those fries or do you
want to just wings? But all right, oh, let's give
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it up for do alipa man may have gotten it right,
man and I love to hear that English sound. We
will chat with her a little later on the show, Davin,
You and the crew can ask a couple of questions
as well. Don't forget to give us your thoughts on
the latest poll. Still time to vote. Also, we are
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celebrating a big sports birthday guys. Scottish golfer Tom Morris,
Scottish winner of the British Open. He'll be a hundred
and nine years young today. You wanted the British Open
in eight Morris. But now here's some things we can't
sleep on, guys. I was thinking, what are some sports
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stories or themes that some people overlook and you just
can't sleep on them? A lot of people just miss
the facts. In fact, how about this one? The Kansas
City Chiefs arguably the best quarterback in football, and I
think they may have won the Super Bowl. Gavin, can
you double check that for me? But don't sleep on
the Chiefs MLB wise, I may be going out of
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the limb right now, But don't sleep on the New
York Yankees. They have some of the best power hitters
in baseball. And what else can you say? Keep an
eye on those Bronx Bombers. Don't sleep on him. Last,
but not least, a team that can be overlooked as
the NBA looks to resume. But don't you dare sleep
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on the Milwaukee Bucks. Fear the dear, That's what I say.
They may they may be on the bubble, but could
be in the bubble of champions. Dan Jonas, don't sleep
on the bus? Do any sports players really need to
practice or prep for the season to be good? That's
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next on the John Romalds Show, Buck a ruse Se
Do you ever hear that no Doubt song? Don't sleep?
Oh man, it's da lupa? Is it? Are you saying?
Do it? Center? I can't wait to ask her tons
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of questions about her career, plus maybe some other sports questions,
like why are the Charlotte Hornets still in the NBA.
Come on, that's so stay tuned. Also, we'll dig deep
into the sports bag for something no one is talking about.
It's almost like TV or radio silence. Is Aaron Rodgers
still a top quarterback? Shocking inside us? Next? Plus, I
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have some big personal news to announce later on the show.
Let's just say Navy football anyone. Well, it's been a while. You,
the loyal listeners, send me emails, text, so it's time
for you to be heard on a little thing we
like to call if I can find it. It's if
I can find you where where? That's the John Ramos
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Show mail bag. Carny car suh. Well, well what do
you have for me? Guys? I'm waiting for the biggest
envelope in the world to be opened. I'll go first.
This comes from Vince in d C. Hey, John, I
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love my Nationals. Things aren't looking good for an MLB
season right now. Please tell me some good news. That's
a great question. Wow, such a good question from Vince
and d C. Vince, it makes me think of a
scene garlic makes a man wink, drink and stink. Let's
move on, all right, John, I got something for your
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Jonas Jonas. This is from Nick and l A Ramos.
I just saw that the RAMS logo is still getting backlash.
Is there anything I can say to my friends to
make them change their minds? That's another great question, Jonas,
seriously and write down my alley. My best answer would
be in this scene when cobwebs are plenty, kisses are scarce, Dave,
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I think you have one to read, Johnny, we got
one more. This comes from Edmund and Pittsburgh, Hi Ramos.
Ben Roethlisberger looks like a lean, mean fighting machine right now.
Is this the year he puts it all together leads
the Pittsburgh Steelers to another Super Bowl title? Man oh Man, Dave. Today,
our listeners have been so good with their thought provoking questions.
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These have really been great. That's the best way I
can answer this question is with this famous scene where's
the beef? Well, that's all the time we have for
you today. Sorry, du A Lupa, but we will have
to chat next time when we just ran out of time.
But until then, thanks for listening to and g K
see you on somebody's backside talking about stick in the landing.
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By the way, I have a quick question there, good
because I have a point to make. The hell is
doa I'm not sure I didn't know the second song
one to pick up the phone, right. I think that's
how well it changed three times. What also was interesting
(50:30):
is I had a script for mail Bag three hours ago,
yet John for some reason didn't find the image sit
in my hand, am specific time you were reading a script, Well,
it's mail bag. I didn't color coat it. My bad
so anyway. But I mean, if they did have any
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comments that they wanted to, you know, chime in on.
And as far as giving a review of the John
Rabo shows, there anywhere they could tweet or a hashtag. Yeah,
you can hashtag it the John Ramo Show just in
general not tweeted anybody, just hashtag it like no Twitter
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