Big Changes in College Basketball & Martellus Bennett

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(01:12):
we we gotta we just got a metric ton to
get to. I'm gonna talk about Aaron Rodgers comments, not
just about his team, but about the franchise tag. Yesterday,
we got I believe a game of real news and
fake news which will be played. Oh man, I'm looking
at the list of stuff we have and this is
this is this is incredible metric ton metric ton of

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of things. All right, let's uh, let's get after it.
The n c A has come down and they have
decided to make changes to college basketball, drastic changes. Um.
First thing is you can actually visit fifteen times on
official visits. Fifteen. That's up from five starting your junior season.

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Of course, you've got to be academically eligible. Agents can
represent high school students, pending a decision by the NBA
and the NBA p A. High school players can be
represented by an agent beginning July one before their senior year,
provided they have been identified as an elite senior prospect
by USA Basketball. Agents can represent college students. College basketball

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players can re represented by an agent beginning after any
college basketball season if they request an evaluation from the
NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee. That rule is effective immediately. Agents
can pay for expenses huh. Agents can pay for meals
transportation for players and their families if the expenses are

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related to the agent selection process. Also, the students cannot
miss class and the money must be spent where the
student lives or attend school. Additionally, high school and college
student athletes and their families can have meals, transportation, lodging
paid for them by an agent if those expenses are
associated with the meeting with an agent or with a

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pro team. These these changes are subject to revisions under
the Uniform Athlete Agents Act Revised Uniform Athletes Agent Act,
relevant state laws YadA, YadA, YadA. All agreements between agents
and high school or college players must be in writing
terminated when the student enrolls, uh IN or returns to

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college and disclosed to the n c A or two schools.
This change effective immediately. Agents must be certified. College basketball
athletes who are interested in going pro have been able
to declare for the draft and attend the NBA Combine,
but have been required to withdraw no more than ten
days after the Combine stay eligible. Now, students who wish

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to enter the draft also must request an evaluation from
the NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee, which will provide them valuable
information to assist them on whether that they returned or
go pro again. Starts immediately. Also, college basketball players who
request an Undergraduate Advisory Committee evaluation, participate in the NBA

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Combine and aren't drafted can return to school as long
as they notify their athletic director of their intent by
five pm the Monday after the draft. Of course, this
has to be an NBA and n b A p
A expected to make a rule change which in which
the NBA would make undrafted student athletes who returned to
college after their draft ineligible for the NBA until after

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the next season. It's the Vashon Leonard rule. Also, Division
one student Division one schools will be required to pay
tuition fees books for basketball players who leave school return
to school later to the same school to earn their degree.
Former student athletes will be eligible for financial assistance to
compete complete their first degree if they were on scholarship

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and fewer than ten years have passed before they left school. Addition,
and lead students must have been in school for two
years before leaving. Former student athletes also must meet all
schools admissions and financial aid requirements and must exhausted all
of their funding options to be eligible, as well as
meet all n c A academic requirements that one starts

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next August, and the n c A will fund degree completion.
That's what they've decided to do. That's it, and that's all.
And you know what my first thing is, that's good.
It's good because I am somebody who is a proponent
of more players getting an opportunity to play in college

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and the idea of let's not shoot guys out the
door because they think they want to go pro. I
like the idea in theory of being able to return
to your school. In practice, it's a little bit harder
because hacked the NBA draft is not until June. Do
we hold a scholarship for you. This is gonna push
back whether or not star high school seniors decide to

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sign to sign with the school. Also, it should be
pointed out it is curious that agents will represent high
school players. Feels like it feels like the n c
A knows something that we all suspect, which is that
the NBA is gonna change their drafting rules in which

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you'll be able to be drafted straight at a high school.
That's what it feels like in reading this, which I
believe is a mistake. And so does college basketball, and honestly,
so do most NBA teams. That's the truth to it.
That's the absolute truth to it. The younger the player,
the more likely that they're going to not be ready

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to compete in the NBA. Go back and look at
all these guys that came straight into high school and
in the first year most of them where we're non competitive.
Lebron James is the exception to every other rule, every
other rule. But I think that dope one thing that

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is is lost here. Instead of discussing whether or not
the n c A did anything, that did enough, they
did something. They identified the problem. They're trying to get,
basically the black market out of the sport. That's what
they're trying to do, trying to get the black market
out of the sport. And to someone who says, well,

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it won't completely eliminate the black market, you're probably accurate.
I mean, think of why we legalized marijuana in this country.
I love it now. Look, there's different types of legalized marijuana,
but in the state I live in, you can go
and buy down the street. You see a green cross
sign that means they sell weed here, weed products here,

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and some of it is we've changed in our view
of the drug some of it is a good portion
of it is hey, we can make a bunch of
money as a state through the through the massive taxation
of the of the drug. And a good portion of
it is hey, you know what, this eliminates the black
market for it. That's what does. It eliminates the black market.

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It's more expensive to buy it there. But you know
exactly what you're getting. It's gone through a testing process.
Matter of fact, and I'm telling you after the fact
that the nords from sale was last ended last weekend.
The weed sailing California was like two weekends ago. They
had to get rid of the old stuff because the
new stuff that was certified was coming in and so
they had deals all over the state. This is a

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true story. That's not any different from what the n
c A is doing. The only difference is they're not
profiting off this. There's no taxation of it. So is
it does it correct all of the all of the
errors of the past. No? Does it create some new
problems of worst there's a law of unintended consequences. There's

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do you really need fifteen official visits? And my God,
make a decision already fifteen visits? Does it fix that.
What if you're not an elite prospect, but like Zaire
Smith of Texas Tech, who was a first round pick
of the Philadelphia seventies six ers, what if you come
from nowhere to somewhere and now you don't have representation,

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like there are issues there. But please stop saying they
didn't do anything. They did something, whether they fixed the
problem or not. Here's the irony to it. Many of
the people, many of the people who are saying the
n c A screwed it up. Ah, they didn't do anything.

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Those are some of the same people that said the
n c needs to stay out of it, not do
anything right. They're trying to streamline the process. They're trying
to make their try to create more access to college
for more players. Hey, dude, you don't get drafted, you
can come back. We don't care. Hey, we don't need

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clandestine meetings with agents. Matter of fact, agents can pick
up the tab fine, no problem. We're not gonna track
you down or trace you down. And they all have
to be reputable agents. They all have to be certified,
much like your weed. Does that perfect the system? No,

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But you know you're meeting with somebody legit if you
meet with the agent. You know what the rules are.
You know that if all things go bad and you
don't get draft, you come back to school, and if
you stay in school for two years, by rule, they
have to have to put you back on scholarship within
the next two ten years anytime you come back. Where
is the downside to that? We get so fixated on

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negativity instead of, hey, you know what, a couple of
these things are kind of cool. Now here's the Here's
the most important part college basketball schools. That college basketball
programs that understand the changing marketplace and are able to

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benefit from that changing marketplace will be the most successful
because of it. Right, managing your scholarship limitations so that
you know, you always have a couple of scholarships so
if guys declare for the pros and have to come back,
you can still have them. That's valuable. I mean, the
truth is that if you look around sport, teams that

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have taken advantage of rule changes are the ones that
have been most successful. I mean, the fact is that
Villanova has won two national titles in the last three years,
and all of this comes after the freedom of movement
was put back into college basketball. You can't grab a guy,
You can't hold a guy. Ever watched Villanova play basketball?

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Crazy physical. You know, they're not physical with their hands.
They ad just to the rules more quickly than anybody else.
They're still physical. Everything they do is from the waist down. Additionally,
Jay Wright, and some of this is uh, some of
this is because of where his program has been. They
weren't recruiting the one and done type, the top ten,

(12:18):
top fifteen high school American. They just weren't. Jalen Brunson
was incredibly highly touted and well regarded, but no one
thought he would come in and be a one and done.
Dante di Vincenzo, come on. He red shirted his first
year there because he broke his foot. Amari Spellman ends
up getting drafted after just one year, but he had

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to red shirt because he wasn't academically eligible, and during
that time off he lost a bunch of weight, and
playing well in the you know, in the Final four
truly helped him. Just because they had four guys draft
in the first round of the NBA Draft, they actually
recruited guys that were just that one notch below. Why,
because whether out of luck or out of knowledge, they
understood it's really hard to have one and does Kentucky

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has killed it in in recruiting. Over the last five years,
I have won a national title. Why because harder to
win with kids versus men adjusting to the rules first.
Adjusting to the rules first will propel you in business

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more quickly than just having really good players and really
good coaches. Think about what the Dodgers did right. The
Dodgers have understood that the more players, young players, you
have under club control, the more successful you're going to be.
Load up your farm system. Load up with the arms

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now they had. They took on a bunch of bad salaries,
initially in the Adrian Gonzalez trade, but meanwhile they were
also loading up their farm system. The Yankees did the
exact same thing. Meanwhile, they kept their international money open
so that they could go and get ya c l
put Look what the Yankees just did because the best way,
I mean, the Angels locked out and to get in show.

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Hey Otani, But the idea is the only proven guys
that you're gonna get that are really gonna help your
franchise because free agents are too too expensive, and once
you get into your mid thirties, now in baseball, with
steroids and h G H out of the game, you're
not gonna have the same success as in the in
the early two thousand's, young players win, depth of arms win,

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and if you're gonna go and get somebody who's a
little bit more developed, you're better off spending your money
on a Cuban player or on a Japanese player. Then
you are loading up and overpaying for a free agent.
Somebody who understands the changing marketplace is usually more successful.

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to this college basketball n c A story. It is

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a big change. There's lots to dig in on, lots
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up on Twitter at gott Leap Show. But up next
is the franchise tag a good thing or a bad thing.
Aaron Rodgers wants it to go away. I actually think
there's a negative there's there's a negative benefit to NFL
teams for keeping a guy on franchise tag that that

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gets off and dismissed. We'll talk to Jason lack camp
for about about guys, you know, rookie Rokan Swift Smith
who's holding out, an Aaron Donald who's holding out, and
we'll get his sense of why Aaron Rodgers was so
grumpy yesterday. That's up coming next in The Doug got
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We got a great show for you. Martelli Speneral join
us later, so will Matt Olsen of your Cardiac Oakland

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A's and Mike Gundhi the mulleted one will join us.
Fifty year old now he's not forty anymore. Fifty year
old Mike Gundy will join us. Getting ready Oklahoma State
office season to which I think they were probably disappointed
losing three games last year. That's how good they were
with a star quarterback in James Washington, who I think
is a freak wide receiver, but they do return a
ton of talent. We'll get his thoughts on some of

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the world changes in college basketball, what they think, what
he thinks they should change in college football, and the
upcoming Big Twelve slate to which it's seemingly Oklahoma and
everybody else. But we'll find out if he thinks they're
everybody else, all right. Jason lack Campfora joins us CBS
NFL Inside This is the Doug Otlip Show. Fox Sports Radio.

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Jason Aaron Rodgers came out yesterday and said, hey, look,
we should eliminate the franchise tag. You know it. It
actually not only allow more player movement, but the threat
of player movement will energize teams to do long term
deals earlier in contracts. What's your what's what's the NFL uh?

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You know behind the scenes reaction to those thoughts, Well,
it's it's something that you asked it privately about the game.
What they would change. There's this big perception about an
upcoming fight over I'm not gonna say the way hold

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on a second, real quick, we're gonna well, here's what
we're gonna do. We're just gonna un pretend like none
of that happened. It's how we're gonna look at that
first question, Ramos, is how I look at Michael Jordan's
two years with the Washington Wizards. Okay, I pretend like
it didn't actually happen. There, go with right, that's it
didn't happen just because I could. It was. I was
on the other end of a drive through, and the

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I would like a right, I don't want any of that.
We're gonna do is I'll ask the same question, he'll
give us the same answer, but we'll wait till he's
in a better I'm guessing he was in a windy area.
I don't think that was actually about you know what
we'll do? Do we have a chance, let's go to
Dan Buyer will be rejoined by Jason Lack Camp four
in a second day. I can't wait to hear Jason

(18:31):
Lacking for I can't can't wait to hear what he's
got on NFL training camp. So I've got this on
the NFL rams GM less needs so the team is
in the same zip code ballpark Area Code with Aaron
Donald as the sides continue to discuss a new contract
for the defensive tackle Doug as he talked about off
the top of the n C Double A making multiple
rules and policy changes today trying to clean up college basketball.

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As part of the new rules, elite prospects would need
to be designated by USA Basketball, but those prospects would
be able to be represented by agents. In addition, underclassman
who went undrafted in the NBA Draft would be able
to return to their school. The new rules also increased
the penalties when it comes to a two postseason bands,
recruiting restrictions, and the coaching suspensions. Lebron James will make

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his Lakers debut on Thursday, October eighteenth, when l A
is in Portland to face the Blazers. His home debut
was at Staples Center Saturday, October twenty when they faced
the Houston Rockets. Pirates have jumped out to it to
nothing lead on the Rockies in the bottom of the
first inning in Colorado, Texas leads the Mariners five one
on the fourth and then that splinked the Reds by
a score of eight to nothing. Doug back to you,

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cling it in doug out them show Fox Sport TRADEO.
Jason Lockham, Florid joins the CBS NFL in center. Jason,
what's what's the internal inside the league reaction to Aaron
rodgers idea of getting rid of the franchise tag? Well,
I mean, look, people talk casually about what's going to
happen in a few years expired, Well, players strike over

(19:59):
gary contracts and getting things fully guaranteed, and when you
talk to people who do struggle with engaging, uh, you
know NFL associated. I don't think anybody in the games
necessarily thing that they're ever going to fully guaranteed contracts
is certainly not in this next c p A. But
elimination of the franchise tag is something I do expect

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the NFL p A two prior times, and it's something
where for years, Glass statesprivately, what q you off bost
about this process? If that teams can do to every
year and they can use it on multiple players, I'm sorry,
they can use it on the same fire multiple times,
and whether it turns out to be something where it's
eliminated entirely or teams can only use the franchise tag

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once every couple of years, there needs to be in
the eyes of the PIA something else here. That's a
mechanism get the best players to market easier in their prime.
And you compare NFL creator in the claw that comes
with it or lack thereof, especially the last four or
five draft class or free agent classes. Now that the
appalling up. I mean the best players. Most of the

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guys who get paid are gods who get paid by
stars because activate somebody. But you're never really seeing the
best to breed guys at the market to they either
sign that extension or they get franchise. So um, I
do expect something the NFL p A tries to alter.
We'll see how successful they are. Yeah, But but as
you know there and and I think people negotiation though,

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like all right, we're gonna give you that something, something's
gonna come our way in return, right, Like we're not
just gonna completely because now part of it is it
is punitive to your salary cap space when you have
a guy in franchise tag like I I think that's
one of the underrated things about the Kirk Cousins deal. Yeah.
I guess that they won at the time by not
signing a long term deal. But they still paid him

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like fifty million over two years and that was all
that ate up their cap space and that's why the
didn't have good surrounding talent. Yeah, twenty straight up against Look,
I think needs to be a quarterback make this next,
whether its pro rag and the tat competition for quarterback

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salaries for a little bit differently in a way that
was Giffer the wivel room. But then what's the tradeoff
for that? I mean, you know, all this his tiff
of that, none of it has to attact. But I
do think both sides becauld be poor cremated how they actuate,
and I think they keep the boom or from the
NBA and they be from MLP. And I the way

(22:31):
Rocker talked about us off tap and talked about some
of the NBA, and he's not going off that top.
He has said a contact certainly fun un record deal.
But I get the sent that that you know he
has been taught that he thought the p A as well,
because he brought up a lot of the books that

(22:51):
lay down fact with something the people the that they
talked too. Jason Lacke for a CBS NFL insider joining
us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Uh, Jason, we're gonna,
We're gonna, we're gonna bid ado. Um, this is not
this is not a you thing. This is your cell
phone thing. I'm not and I'm not gonna say it's

(23:12):
not you, it's me. I'm gonna say it's not you,
it's your cell phone. Let's talk soon. Okay, all right,
thanks Jason. Not going forward was awesome with us. I
just I feel bad. Look here the reality of what
what he that at the end, what about Aaron Rodgers
was basically all the talking points Aaron Rodgers were hitting.
We're not only smart, but they were well informed. It's

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pretty obvious he's talking to some of the powers to
be at the NFL p A and he knew what
and why he was talking about what and why he
was talking about it, right, That's that's what he knew.
But the idea of like, hey, well i'll just do
away with the cap salary cap like that sounds good.
What are you gonna get back in return? You do

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know this is a negotiation, you know what, here's what
we'll do. Uh sure, I don't know if you guys
saw this. This is fascinating me. By the way, welcome
back to Ryan Music. Are now engaged our engaged producer,
Ryan Music. Congratulations Music, Thank you very much, Doug. Very

(24:15):
nice to you. I appreciate that you signed up to
lose half your stuff. Congratulate. I haven't signed anything yet,
Doug sure. Oh oh really, We're gonna make sure we
send her that little I haven't signed anything yet. That
was just for show. I was just to keep around
the hook for a little bit longer. Huh. You know
what I'm saying. Yuh, just saying I have yet to
sign any papers. You're just you're just saying neither is

(24:38):
she does allow her the ability to Yeah, anyway, Ryan
Music got engaged. Um, here's let's we'll get back to
the engagement and the Aaron Rodgers thinking. Well, let's we'll
get back to the and Rodgers thinking in a second,
So how did you ask her on the beach at sunset?
On the beach where in in Maui? And Connor poll okay,

(24:59):
so pretty amazing in KNA, Polly, correct? Is that where? Um?
Is that where I'm trying to think? What's is that
by the gazebo. There's a restaurant called the Gazebo great
breakfast place. I don't believe. So I think that's Cappalua,
which is they're capitalist. Further kind of poll is not
not quite there anyway, pretty pretty stellar. By the way,

(25:20):
you're on there on her dad's dime, right, her dad
flu flu flu. You guys all know he did not
fly up he it is his time share, so we
didn't have to pay for any hotels while we were
out there. But so you had to pick up the airfare.
He picks up the hotel pretty much. Well, I mean
he paid for his own fight. We paid for our
own flights. I mean you pick up your own flight. Okay,

(25:40):
So when the dinner check would come, would you at
least would you even go to the wallet? Would you
even go to the move? We just sit there and
go like this is stupid, I'm not doing that. No, well,
so we didn't. I'm trying to think maybe there was
one time where we all went out, um, my fiance
and I would it sounds like at Seinfeld episode. We

(26:01):
would do our dinners and it was just too good
dinner with them. No, But then time share, you can
you can be engaged to and stoop his daughter, but
you gotta have a dinner with the old man. No.
But then when we did do dinners, we often did
them within the time share, so we were cooking stuff
at the time share. Did you pick up the grocery

(26:22):
tab the groceries? They were there before we were, so
it was already everything was taken care of. And say like, hey,
let me even you out for the groceries. To do
that move, my wife will like leave money, like what
are you doing? No, no, this is just wrong, Like
they picked up the groceries. It's fine, right, it's fine. No,
I did not do that, and nor would I think
he would accept such an offer. When did you ask

(26:42):
the dad? Wow, this was like a couple of months ago.
About ago. You're like, hey, I'm gonna ask her. Yeah,
And then you had the ring with you Yeah. And
that was actually a problem because she kept doing the
whole like she has like status with United, so she's like, look,
just check your bag. I'm like, no, it's cool, I'll
carry it on. She's like, I just think you should
check it like and I'm like, well, no, I just

(27:02):
save money. She's like, no, with status, we get too
free check bags, so you should just check. And I
was like, I'm not gonna check the bag. Okay, I'm
gonna carry it on. It's just like a TV episode
like it's it's gonna be fine until they until they
started examining your bag, sir, what is in this case? Well,
actually it looks it looks like something that could be explosive,

(27:23):
Like I did, um, because we have t s a
pre check, so normally you just kind of walk right through.
But even still they can do like that random check.
And I got hit with one of the random checks
and I definitely was like, oh my gosh, they're gonna
pull out the bag right now and it's gonna be
a whole thing. Well, they just took the drugs out right,
they exactly. Yeah, come on man, I need those. Yeah,

(27:50):
it's gonna be a much much not gonna be a
funny trip, right Um. Okay, So here here's the bigger question.
You got the whole plan? Yep, you got this whole
like almost most TV series going on. Where so you
get through security, you get to Maui. How many days
you there? We were there. We were in Maui for
seven days and Kauai for three. Man, that's a good trip.

(28:13):
It was a great trip. It's a good trip. He
has the time sharing Kauai as well. It's all part
of the rewards thing that they do. It's it's a
you're on you're on scholarship. You for this is called
being on scholarship. So you're on scholarship. Did you ask
you the first dage? Yes, his second day, like what's
the plant? Full day? We were there? So we landed
on Saturday, I asked on Sunday. Yeah, I was not.

(28:35):
I was trying to get it over with. Yeah, get
it out of the way. Um okay, so you you
have it what in your pocket? It's at sunset? Sunset
in Maui is pretty amazing. Although, although what's that little
island there which can kind of block sometimes with sunset,
Lena I, which is owned by the guy who owns
Oracle right, he owns the island. That is That is

(28:58):
the definition. That's the different Hawaii. Um, that's the definition
of fe money. Like anybody who thinks they're loaded, Like, yeah,
I own one of the islands in Hawaii, Like what
do mean? Like you know l and I I own
that island. Anyway, So you got on your Hawaiian shirt,

(29:19):
you got on some shorts, you go for a walk,
on the beach, right, yes, and and now you're like,
it's like the it's basically like what we saw Monday night,
the last episode of the last episode of The Bachelorette,
right where you're you want to not say that something dumb.
What It's gotta be nerve racking, isn't it? Ah? Yeah
it was. Actually I was pretty nervous all day. I

(29:42):
wasn't really nervous, you know, when you're like telling your
friends and family like, yeah, you know, we're going on
the strip, gonna do it on the strip. And my
best friend from college who's already married, I talked to
him about it and he was like, oh, you're gonna
wait till sunset? And I was like yeah, he goes,
no way, man, I proposed that brunch. I had to
get it over with. Um. So yeah, it is pretty
throughout the day. You know now that when her and

(30:02):
I talked about it, she was like, yeah, you're being
weird all day, but um, yeah, I just took a
took a little walk down to the beach. Um kind
of just got right to it because you know, the
more you talk about it, she kind of knew what
was coming. So then she I like, you like have

(30:22):
the speech in your head. And then when I just
kind of started to talk to her, I could like
see that she already knew it was coming. So I
was like, all right, I'm just gonna get down on
a knee now, I'm not going to do the whole speech,
and I'm gonna get right to it. She started crying.
No she didn't, she can cry. No, she did not,
very emotionless. Um did she ask about She did not

(30:44):
ask about a prenup. I don't have yeah, because you
can't get her money. It would certainly be that situation.
I'm aware. Oh, Ryan Music, congratulations this Sunday. Eighteen years
in the business for the eight years, eighteen years, so
I am a big proponent of uh, we we have

(31:07):
I'm I've been franchise tagged again and again. Don't don't
don't get yourself. This is not a long term deal.
This is a franchise tag. I'm working on a yearly contract.
Stug gotlip show Fox Sports Radio. So let me get
back to what Aaron Rodgers said, Uh, we have a
tough situation. I think one thing you could definitely do
is look at the influence the way contracts are done.

(31:30):
The hardcap versus the non hardcap like the NBA with
his a cap, then there's a luxury tax. I would
allow teams to go over the cap, knowing if they do,
since there's not a hard cap, they're going to be
faced with some sort of luxury tax issues and they're
gonna change change their strategy. It's not like we're hurting
just like the NBA. We're not hurting for revenue. We're
doing excellent in the NFL, and the NBA is doing

(31:52):
fantastic as well. I think this would be a disaster.
One of the things that allows the NFL to be
successful is that there isn't player movement, is that there
isn't think about it for a second, remember a second, Ramos,
how deep do you think you're intricate knowledge of the

(32:13):
NFL is? I would say it's not very deep. It's
it's okay, it's okay, right, Like you're not gonna sit
here and say, like I know every position from every right.
Who's the quarterback for the Houston Texans Kaiser? Huh, Watson,

(32:33):
you're thinking to Sean though you got it, got you
got the right, you got the right first name, second dame,
who's the quarterback for Dallas Cowboys. That would be Dak Prescott.
Who's a quarterback for your Rams? Jared who's the quarterback
for the Oakland Raiders, Derek Carr. Yes. The point is
that we can go through and you're going to get
like if I say Bills, you're like, oh boy, I'm

(32:54):
not sure Tyrod is not there anymore. Maybe a j McCarn,
maybe Josh Allen. I don't know who else. There's somebody
else is still in. Oh, Nathan Peterman, the guy that
sucked that one day they started against the Chargers last year. Right,
it's a little bit harder that the player movement thing
sounds like a good idea until you realize it would

(33:15):
be a disaster. What has brought down college sports, especially
college basketball? The transferring in guys going to the NBA?
Why because you can't identify, You don't know who's what
and where and anything. We make fun of guys to
stay at one school for four or five years. We
don't champion them. Though the NBA has had these super teams.

(33:40):
It's not good for business. Anybody who says it is
isn't looking at the raw data. The data would tell
you even if the numbers are down for the NFL,
they quinn tuple the number of most NBA games national
NBA games, and we can sit there and it's real
to say, hey, there's more games, more games until that's fine,

(34:02):
But go ahead and pick out a Sunday NBA game
number of a huge matchup. Go ahead, pick it out
Warriors versus Rockets on ABC. It's gonna get like a
five or a six on Sunday. In the NFL, a
huge game is gonna get a rating in the twenties
and maybe even thirties. Why because we because we established

(34:26):
who plays for who, and if you really want to
be traded, you can do the Kauai Leonard. But Cam
Newton is the quarterback of the Carolina Panthers, Aaron Rodgers
the quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. Like these things
work and we have. By the way, does it hurt
player mobility a little bit? Doesn't hurt their ability to

(34:48):
make money? Hell no, it doesn't. It doesn't. Kirk Cousins
was under franchise tag for the last two years with
Washington Redskins. You know which money he made guaranteed about
fifty million guaranteed, and then he signed a huge deal
with the Minnesota Vikings to get like eighty million more

(35:09):
guaranteed a complete misconception and complete misrepresentation of the facts. Sure,
NBA's business is good relative to the NBA, it's not
as good as the NFL. So I love Aaron Rodgers.
He may well come on this show. He makes some

(35:30):
smart talking points, but he's doing that thing that great
politicians do where he tells you one real side to
which you're like, you know what, Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah,
that's a good point. Why not luxury tax? Well, look,
if we're gonna really compare ratings, major League Baseball's local
ratings are better than NBA's ratings. The sports are different.

(35:55):
But the more you have a guy, the longer you
have a player stay with one franchise. And yeah, by
the way, like Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant left, he was
in one franchise for nine years. It's just a difference
in the length of careers, a lot of differences. But
the more you have consistency with your star players being

(36:16):
aligned with a franchise, the more likely your league is
to be successful. Because we identify players with teams stars
with their logo. That's good for business, and it sounds
great in front of a microphone to say, hey, let's
do that way with the franchise tech. That's fine. What
are you willing to give up? You're gonna give something up?

(36:38):
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are fake news. At the NBA's opening night will feature
a national TV triple header, with the Sixers and Celtics

(37:43):
playing in Boston, Nuggets and Tea Wolves in Denver, the
Warriors home in Oakland to the Thunder on Tuesday, October six.
That sounds like real news are fakes. I threw a
little curveball in there. Two out of three ain't bad,
but Nuggets and Tea Wolves not a part of the
skull that wasn't paying attention. Sixers in Celtic will be
in Boston, Warriors are home in Oakland to the Thunder.
By the way, six or Celtics also Christmas Day game, right,

(38:06):
they're like, we need an East Tallis game like six
or Celtics. Don't put anybody else on TV. The rest
of the league does not exist. Yeah, they're gonna play
twenty four times this season. So yeah, the national TV
schedules coming out today for opening week Christmas Day and
mL K I said yesterday at this time that it
was the full schedule, but it's just the national TV.
So I apologize for that. Dougs one over one, Let's

(38:27):
see if we can even end up at one for two.
Real news or fake news. Giants quarterback Davis Webbs is
former Giant, said coach Ben McAdoo promised him last season
that he'd start in the final three games of the
regular season. That sounds like real news and the spectacular.
I remember Eli manning starts streak was snapped in Week
thirteen in Oakland. They were gonna ask Eli to start
the game just to keep his streak alive, but instead

(38:49):
that they went with Gino smith Well. Webb says that
he was promised by Ben McAdoo, that Ben McAdoo that
he would get these starts in week sixteen, fifteen, sixteen,
and seventeen. But McAdoo is fired por to Week fourteen. Yes,
a dirty deal, man I look, I Ben, I'm not
gonna do everything right. The everyone said this is the
right thing to do. That BLI Manning, who you know,

(39:10):
let others do his dirty work for him. And now
they're stuck with Eli Manning and hopefully Davids Webb sometimes
can play. Because they didn't drave Um, they didn't draft Barkley.
Real news are fake news. Doug that authorities in New
York put an end to a fake shoe scheme involving
the selling of what would have amounted to seventy three
million dollars worth of fake pairs of air Jordan's. They're

(39:30):
real and they're spectacular. Yeah. The n y p D
and Homeland Security say five individuals ran the plan where
they got fake Jordan's from China for over a two
year span. But yeah, for the amount of shoes that
they had, Doug, if they were real Jordan's, they would
have been seventy three million bucks a half. They were
error Jordan's half probally uh Jordan's R yes yes or

(39:57):
E R R O R. Yeah. One of the two
real news are fake news. Ryan Music had to postpone
his engagement proposal by one night because of a random
storm cell that hit Hawaii. I'm gonna you are fake
it is. He just told you how it all went down.
But I figured that was a nice little curveball. This
is game time on the Duck Gottlieb Show. I watched

(40:23):
a Hard Knocks last night. You guys watch Hard Knocks
at all. There's some great stuff in there. Yeah, it's
even compound interest. You guys learn about compound interests or
people like I had no idea about compound interest. Now
you do. Is it dysfunctional? Is it the Browns or
is it just the way it works. There's some interesting
takeaways from the first night of Hard Knocks featuring the

(40:46):
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(41:08):
Radio Come into you from the toasty hot city of
Los Angeles. Don't worry, folks, Our homes are not in danger,
not that I'm aware of. I hope you're listening to
the show. Neither are yours. Got some fires in the South,
some fires in the North, but the only fire is
coming out of this year microphoneies, hot takes I'm throwing
out there. Alright, silliness aside, Let's get after it. Last

(41:33):
night was the first night of of of Hard Knocks. Ramos,
Did you watch? I did not do? I'm sorry, all right? Music.
You got back late last night, didn't you? You You got
back late from Hawaii? You're still in Hawaiian time? Uh? Yeah,
it wasn't too bad with the time change. But yeah,
I did not watch it in its entirety, but I
did watch most of the uh most popular clips, Dan Buyer,

(41:56):
did you watch? Did you have any chance I would watch?
I know you've had a super busy week. Some things
go and on off Mike. Uh, do you get a
chance to watch? Yes? I did on delay, but you know,
on the DVR. But as it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. Listen.
This is not a like a oh you didn't watch
it live? Like guess what, None of it's live. It's
a TV show. First thing is the TV show? What

(42:16):
was your biggest takeaway? Couple? Your biggest takeaways? Watch? Um?
I thought it was. I mean the Jarvis Lantry was
a big one. I thought that you felt like that
was for a TV show? Yeah? Yeah, Um I thought
the dropping excessive, ridiculous amounts of f bombs calling out
other people for their practice habits when you're Jarvis Landry
and you got run out of run out of Miami,

(42:37):
like it just it felt like it was for a
TV show. So, Doug, when they turned on the lights,
remember he got up to speak and then the coach
walked over and turned the lights on. Yeah, so you
were wondering, okay, as this for the cameras. Yeah, that
one felt like it was for the camera. I thought
that Hugh Jackson was revealing with I know, the the
deaths in his family that that he was dealing with,
and just even the conversation with Baker Mayfield being like

(42:58):
when are you getting here? Um? You know? So I
thought I thought so for people didn't hear that one?
He asked Baker Mayfield when you get here? And he's like, oh,
I get here about two hours for practice. And he's
like what about five five being Tyrod Taylor and he's like, well,
five does he does his own little workouts? Like what
are your own little workouts? And he's like, uh, He's like,
look like everything is a competition, dude, Everything is competition.

(43:23):
You know, um do what he does. I remember I
had a had a conversation once with um. Uh. Dan
Munson is the head coach at Long Beach State and
he had a point guard named caspar Ware. He had
a backup to casper Ware, and he like he told
him like listen, everywhere casper Ware goes, that's where I

(43:43):
want you to go. I think he's named my coffee
and he said, everywhere he goes, I want you to
go everything he does. I want if he cuts his hair,
you cut your hair. Whatever he eats, you go to eat.
Why because he's done it, he knows how to do it.
And if you can do it that good, you'll be
a hell of a player. That's basic of what he's
sharing with it. I thought that was good. I thought
that was It was a little bit of it for

(44:04):
TV maybe, but I thought that one actually made sense.
I think the part of like the most. They've done
some weird things and given players vet days. Even Miles
Garrett got a vet day the second day of camp.
They've periodically rested some of their players throughout camp in
an effort to make sure nobody comes up lame during camp.

(44:26):
And there was like a healthy back and forth to
which has everybody's ears perked up. Remember you have offensive
coordinators Todd Haley, he got run out of Pittsburgh. He's
been a head coach. Uh, he is a let's just say,
a vivid personality. Then you' all have Greg Williams and
the defensive side of the ball, who claimed last night
that he had seven other offers that he turned to.
Seven other teams offered him put the only ten defensive

(44:49):
coordinator jobs. One team fired him last year, one team
hired him. That's nine. So by his estimation, only one
team didn't offer him a contract. He didn't all say
defensive coordinator, but only one team. Um, Greg Williams a
fiery Personess, you's got fiery personalities on both sides. You've
got Hugh Jackson, who's I think incredibly likable. Take a

(45:10):
listen to this discussion between oftense coorting to Todd Haley
and head coach Hugh Jackson. We need to get so
much done. Our team has to get mentally tougher and
be able to fight through that that we got to
fight through. We gotta change this drastically. And if we
got guys that haven't done sitting around doing nothing, you know,
I just don't know how we're gonna do it. Well.

(45:32):
I respect you saying that. I mean I used to
sit in the same let me finish. I used to
set in the same chair as you guys said it.
The chair I said that a little different to chair
you guys said. I get to watch from a different lens.
I'll taught me a long time ago. You know what
what is it. I'll give it to me, your team
and do whatever you need your team, you do it
a hell you want, Okay, So this one's mine. So

(45:53):
that's just the way it's gonna be. Um, I'm gonna
tell a story here right now, which uh uh the
program director our San Diego Phillies then got him Adam
Kluge Ryan Music. You've met him, Ramos. I don't know
if you met him. We were long time. We worked
together for six or seven years before I came over
to Fox Sports Radio, and we've we've both obviously, uh

(46:16):
had We had a great run together. We're great friends.
But every once in a while, every once in a
while we would have a bitter dispute over what we
were going to start and talk about during the show.
Music and I haven't had that. Music is a different
sort not a lot less confrontational personality. Um, but the

(46:37):
the every once in a while I would break out
the hey, um, I was wondering, what is the name
of this show called? And he would grumble underneath his presence,
don't go what what was? I couldn't remember. It's the
It's the Doug Godlip Show. You're right, it is, and

(46:58):
look it sounds like a dB move. Don't get me wrong,
it's not something I enjoy doing. It's not. But when
it is your name on the show, you can't talk
about something somebody else wants. You can't like you just
can't do it. Now. It was his job at is
Ryan Music's job to energize me on a topic that
I might not be energized on, to push me to it.

(47:19):
But there are times in which like, look, I just
don't think that, or I just don't want to talk
about that. I'm just not comfortable there. And every once
in a while you gotta push back and go no,
which is what Hugh Jackson's doing. If you read Twitter,
there's a lot of dudes on Twitter that have never
been inside a locker room. They're sitting there going like
I can't believe, or they've never been inside a coach's office.

(47:43):
I thought what I saw was incredibly healthy. You got
coaches like, look, we don't we don't have two days
like we used to have in football. We don't have
a ton of practice time. We we have a culture
here where you've won one game in two years, one
one day him in two years, and you want us
to make lemonade out of lemons with less time because

(48:06):
you're worried about the fact they might get hurt, you know.
Hugh Jackson said, yes, because no matter how much we
change in terms of the culture, if you ain't got
the dogs, it doesn't matter, all right, it doesn't matter.
It does not matter. It's the same reason that even

(48:29):
though I love the competitiveness of people. Heck, do you
look at the Oakland Raiders two years ago? Why they
Why were they non competitive in the playoffs? They lost
their quarterback? Yeah, I think a nineteen point lead. They
had Derek carr in. He ends up getting hurt out
for the season. They go up to the they show
up to the box and there's Mark Davis and he's

(48:51):
going crazy. Why was he in the game? And I'm
sure he was in the game because he's a competitor,
because they're trying to win a game, because they're trying
to get a better see, because they're trying like, no,
it doesn't matter if he's not healthy, not if it matters.
And so yeah, look, I they can both be right,

(49:12):
they can have that discussion. And you know what, Hugh
Jackson's I hear you, I hear you. I hear you.
We're still gonna do it my way. You know why,
because it's my football team. Because if this radio show
is bad, it doesn't go down as you know what,
as bad as Ryan Music was bad that day, nobody cares.

(49:33):
They don't. You don't. You don't listen. You don't get
the credit you deserve when and we're good. But you
also don't get the blame that you deserve when we're bad.
That's just not the way it works, right. And Hugh Jackson,
who knows it could be his last shot. He had
one year with the Raiders, he's had now this is

(49:53):
third year with the Browns. And I guarantee you sitting
there going like, dude, I gotta win some games. All
that culture stuff is great, It's true. We do have
to get tougher. We have to learn how to win.
We have to learn to push through things, get more
mentally tough. But we can't do it with backups. We
don't have enough talent with our starters, let alone with

(50:15):
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the zone auto Zone. He's the longest tenured head coach
in the Big Twelve. He's a head coach of my
and his alma mater. He lost his quarterback, he lost
the star wide receiver. How do you keep it going
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my Gundy momentarily, Head coach Oklahoma State coming off of

(51:38):
a season which is kind of crazy. Ten wins again,
and it does feel like they left a couple of
wins out there. That's just that's just amazing for somebody
like me who knows so much about that program. The
level of consistency has he's built is really really remarkable.
But it's got a new defensive coordinator, new quarterback, new
star wide receiver. So there is some new stuff and

(51:59):
there some old stuff. Justice Hill is the first round
draft pick type talent at running back and be interesting
to see how he fits in and how they uh
how they change their offense without Mason Rudolph, who had
been a star for the last three plus years. Yes,
Ryan Music, you started the show today talking about the
changes in college basketball and how guys are going to

(52:21):
be able to assign agents and work with their agents
even though they're not declaring for the draft yet. Then
they can also declare for the draft and return to
college if they don't get drafted. Do you think any
of these changes are gonna trickle over into the football sphere.
I guess we'll ask him. I guess we'll ask him.
It's weird. It's like college football's be like, oh, my

(52:41):
college football is fine. We're not going to touch that.
I'm gonna change that. The big the big one with
them is an early signing period, which I don't love
but we could ask. We could ask my gun if
he does love it. It just doesn't seem The reason
it makes sense for basketball the way I see it
is because you have the younger players declaring for the draft,

(53:04):
so they actually have time to go back. I mean,
so often, if a guy is gonna enter the draft
early for football, if he's already like a junior, he's
probably not gonna go completely undrafted, especially because there's so
many rounds, So then he would just go back for
his senior year only as opposed to like a lot

(53:25):
of times, guys who are getting drafted have already fulfilled
all of their eligibility, so if they go undrafted, I mean,
there's nowhere else for them to go. No. I look,
I think it's gonna be super super interesting. They also
have some uh football is coming around to basketball where
they have some grad transfers. They got a kid named
Drew Brown, who's a who's a grad transfer from Hawaii. Um,
you know it's it's uh, it's it's gonna be interesting

(53:48):
just to see what happens the the evolution of college
sports and how they keep up with the changing times
and uh, and all the money that that is being
thrown around to NFL players. I think, look, they're they're
just you have to understand the two completely different sports.
It's just like two completely different professions. People do this

(54:11):
all the time where they say, well, like you know,
in basketball, the contracts like this. In baseball they're different
and in football they're like, Okay, well, lawyers contracts are
different than doctors contracts are different than um engineers contracts.
These are they just are. If you it's it's it's

(54:34):
also here's what else is funny about the changing times
When we were kids. We were kids, and I was
I was talking about this with a friend. Almost you
can attest to this. The kids who came from money,
Like what we thought of was they were rich when
we were little kids. Those were kids whose dads were doctors, right,

(54:54):
doctors made the most money, and some doctors do. They
were sawyers kids as well. Lawyer met a bunch of
money doctors and lawyers. Now doctor lawyers still do very
very well. But one, they gotta pay off uh student
loans like for the first half of their professional lives.
And two, and this is important, finance guys are the

(55:17):
ones that kill it. Right. So I think the idea
I do like. I think a smart discussion, the same
smart discussion that NFL and MLB and NBA people have. Hey, look,
I understand we're all professional athletes, but the sports are different,
the contracts are different, the longevity of it are different.

(55:39):
The same is true with the n c A. You
can tell me all you want that basketball and football
the same, the both college sports, the most same. Scholarship
is like, no, that sounds different, and so some of
the requirements, some of the recruiting restrictions, should in fact
be different. Let's get cats up with the longest tenured
and winning his coach in uh in Oklahoma State his tree.

(56:00):
He's one fourteen and fifty three. That sounds good, but
considering the long history, with the long disappointing history of
Oklahoma State football, with the exception when he was there
as a player in a couple other years, it's been unbelievable.
What he's done unbelievable. Mike Gundy, head coach Okahoma State,
joined us on the Doug Gottlieve Show. Coach, how are you.
I'm doing good, Doug, thanks for having me. Um. Okay,

(56:22):
So this is a when when we say it's a
new year. Oftentimes it sounds good, but you bring back
the same coordinate, But Nators, you bring back the same stars.
I know you have Justice Hill back as a star
running back, but new quarterback, new wide receiver, new defensive coordinator.
How different is how different will this Oklahoma State team
look to the one we saw last year? Defensively quite

(56:46):
a bit Offensively, Um, We're gonna do a lot of
the things we've done in the past. But you know,
we we had the luxury of having Mason here for
three years and James Washington and eighton and all the
guys that you're referring to, and so over a certain
period of time, those practices and games kind of all
look the same based on having that maturity and that experience. Um,

(57:08):
but with Jim Knowles coming in, defensively, we have a
we have a different look. You know, we're in the
four to five scheme now and gives us a lot
of different ways that we can attack an offense. And
I really like where he's at. I'm sure you've read
up that he's an Ivy League guy, and I love
his ability to teach and get into the minds of

(57:29):
the young men that we're coaching. Today. Um, and I
think he's doing really well. We'll find out a lot.
We'll know a lot more. I guess I should say,
Doug in two months, we'll see how it works. You
know what's interesting is he's kind of a hyper aggressive
guy in terms of how his teams play right by reputation.
But you know, if you've done this as long as
you and I have, every defensive quidner who comes in,

(57:52):
coach says, you know, we're going to be more aggressive.
If that were the case, by the time we get
to two thousand eighteen, they would be blitzing on every play.
So so give me, give me a sense of the realistically,
how much more aggressive is his style as opposed to
coach Glenn Spencer's style, your former defensive coordinator. Well, what
you said is is exactly right, and that's why I said,

(58:15):
you know, we'll find out in a couple of months
just just how good we are there. It's it's a
little different approach, and I think the the the illustration
you gave, the example of being hyper aggressive personality wise,
that really fits him. Um, he's um, he's he's willing
to take more chances, I think than than Glenn was

(58:38):
UM based on competing against uh no huddle aggressive teams
like we will see in this league. And the reason
that we ben Okom the State play the style of
offense we do is to put defensive coordinators on their
heels and we want to scare them and and that's
why we play the style we do. I'm guessing that

(59:00):
the other coaches in this league are doing the same,
and I think Jim Um coach Knowles will challenge them
more than what we have in the past. Um. On
the other hand, though, that when you when you do attack,
you run the risk of of of giving up that
big play. Is that something that you like? It's it

(59:21):
sounds good in theory, right, but until it actually happens. Um,
Look it it took you, I don't know, maybe maybe
even two or three years before Mike you're chich your
your offensive coordinator. He took came in and took over
duties until it felt like you two were symbiotically working together.
Now it's a really good partnership, Um, is it is?

(59:43):
Do you think it's gonna be as smooth less smooth? Like?
How do you think that will actually end up working out?
I think it'll be a little more smooth when when
Mike came in here as an offensive coordinator, we were
not very good up front. In fact, we were poored front.
We had missed on some young men and we were
really struggling. We were young and the experienced and and

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we didn't have the type of running back that we
had had here in the past. That made it more
difficult to a transition. We're more talented defensively from an
athletic standpoint that with with Jim taken over UM, and
there there is some risks there. The head coach has
to be willing to take that risk. And I think
you you do it in a smart way. You say,

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if if these are things that we want to do
to UM to increase the bad plays the offense has
against us, we can have a plan to do it,
but we also have to have a way that if
it's not working, we've got to get back to plan
base and not being so aggressive. And that's all based
on how good the quarterbacks are on the other team.

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Because when you play good quarterbacks now in these in
these high um or in these spread offenses, whether they
throws the ball down the field a lot, uh, they
can hurt you really fast. If if they're quarterbacks is
inexperienced and might not be uh as quality as what
we've seen here in the past over the last three

(01:01:08):
or four seasons, then you can be an attack mode
more often during the game. So here here's my kind
of working fan philosophy. My Gundy head coach Oakahoma State, Um,
you've taught me so much and listen to you and
interviewing you. You talked about years ago how you switched.
You put forty four scholarships on the defensive side of
the ball. You understand that this is an offensive league,
but you've got to have the numbers defensively. I look

(01:01:29):
at the makeup of your team, and you've got Justice Hell,
who I talked to an NFL scout was like that,
that's a that's a first round caliber, starting caliber running back.
But you also have J. D. King and L. D. Brown,
Like you're really good in that backfield. I kind of
feel like you know what you're kind of putting together,
which is, yeah, you're gonna give up a player too,
but meanwhile, we're gonna wear you down with our offense
with longer drives and that. Like any like any league,

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but especially the Big twelve it becomes about conditioning, and
even though you may have given up points, you're not
giving up as long a dry libes because you're gonna
generate some turnovers and give up some big plays as
opposed to offensively, their defense is going to be on
the field longer. Is that a working kind of philosophy
on a dream situation now works out? And it really is.

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And when you look at it from a business standpoint.
From our point of views, let's say that that Taylor
Corners continues to play well as doing a good job.
We really like what he's done at quarterback. He's been
really good in the last week and a half. Drew Brown,
the young man that transferred in from Hawaii, has proven
that he's played at this level and he knows what

(01:02:34):
he's doing. He's a he's a shortstop Jim Rat point
guard type of player. But we're really good at running back.
We've got we might have three guys on this team
at the running back position that would be potentially playing
in the NFL something. So you know, as well as
I do, we need that many guys I could talk
to potentially play in the NFL. We have to use

(01:02:56):
them in the right way and that also allows us
to bring the other guys at that position in slowly
get them acclimated to the water tapature to where they
can play their game. And I think we're going to
be better in the offensive line by the first of
October than we've been around here in five years. So
when you put that formula together, and then you tie

(01:03:17):
in your special teams and see how you want to
bring that into the game. Let's force their hand a
little bit. Let's let's see what people can do to
make some plays if we give some up. Okay, we're
gonna get the ball. Um, let's pound on him a
little bit. Let's let these backs make some plays. And
then as soon as they do that, well, then that
gives us a chance to throw the ball over the top,

(01:03:37):
which is what we're gonna do anyway. And let's see
how that formula works, um, and try to keep guys healthy.
And that's really where we're sitting right now, based on
the new team that we have. You mentioned Taylor Cornell,
this that those big shoes to fill. But he's a
big old dude. What was now he's he's six sixty two.
But you go back five years ago, I think when

(01:03:57):
you you first said, is up? Was he eighty pounds? True? Yeah,
one eighty two, I think is what he was? Um
And and C does he can really run? He'll run
a He's probably a pretty legitimate for seven kids, but
because he's so totally takes really big strides and so
I'm kind of excited about the ability to have him

(01:04:18):
keep the ball and make a play, you know, six
seven times a game, just enough to keep people honest.
And I think that's gonna be a really good part
of our game on offenses fall the I think the
one question that I would have, and that I think
a legit football question would be, you know, Drew Brown
transfers in from Hawaii, He's seen live bullets. Do you
know how do you how do you create a situation?

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I understand that every day is a competition, he's fighting
for his job, but is there a way to create
way to create the type of atmosphere that he's going
to see when he's in the Big twelve. So, you know,
because some guys are gamers and some guys are practice
guys that you know how Taylor Cornelys is gonna gonna
play when the lights are on the popcorns poppet, what

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one thing we do, Doug, And you know, I was
just thinking, we've got to get you out here some
for some of our practices. But we go eleven on
eleven in a thud mode, which means we don't go
to the ground. But we we go eleven on eleven
a lot, which is we play the game. We put
the ball out there, we get both sides, office and
defense off the field, the clocks running, the twenty five

(01:05:22):
second clocks running, UM, the sounds on loud, and we
play the game like thirty six plays a day, and
so um substitutions. We don't ever stop it. We don't
ever stop and blow the whistle or and say hey,
let's do this in that quarter. If the if they're
lying up wrong or well there's a mistake, the quarterbacks
got to fix it himself. And I may we make

(01:05:42):
them do that every day. And Taylor has been in
those situations for for three years here and um, Drew
has been in him just a week and a half.
But you can already tell by watching that Drew knows
how to get himself out of a jam because he's
played in twenty five games at this level. Just what
we're putting through here. So is it like is it

(01:06:04):
like in the game? Close? But it's not because there's
not sixty five thousand people are screaming at you. But
it's the best we can do, um to get these
guys ready and get an idea of can they handle
the pressure. And as you know, it's not the same
as Senator and shooting the free throw with two seconds
left of being down by one. It's still not the same.
But it's the best we can do. No, No, it's

(01:06:24):
it's Yeah. If everybody, every coach in basketball does the
already make two free throws and you guys go home
and not everybody runs, and hell I can make up
in practice, and all of a sudden, you know, you
get you get, you get ten thousand on the road
and and you start turning cold cole in coal into
two diamonds. Um okay, So what look last year, I
don't know how you felt. I'm sure you were privately

(01:06:45):
a little bit disappointed, like ten wins, but ten wins
with the three year starter, a quarterback, a stud at
wide receiver, you guys had a good team and you
probably felt like you left a win or two out
on the on the field. What signifies a season that
you're that you're proud of this year? Well, I I
felt that way, UM. And you know, it's like what

(01:07:05):
you talked about in that UM. To win thirty games
in three years is fantastic, but it was it was
hard on men off seasons because we were really good.
We we lost to a great o U team Doug
and Mayfield was fantastic as a college football quarterback. UM.
But we we didn't play as well as we could

(01:07:27):
have in the other games. And I'm not taking anything
away from the teams that beat us, because they beat us.
But I felt like that we underachieved UM as coaches
and there was times when then to achieve as players.
UM and But but that's the way it goes, um
and And of course that's why you rally back each year.
But we're building numbers up around here like we have

(01:07:49):
never before, and so I don't see the turnaround being
as long at times to get to a point where
you could have potentially compete on national level, because if
we just make a few plays last year, we could
have very well been in the playoffs. You know, And
and you know when you and Andy and the year
and the year before was the year before you probably
should have been in the playoff, right, So I mean

(01:08:10):
it's that's correct. I mean, so you're you're not that
far away. And you know, when you get into a
one game playoff, you you mess around and winning, you
get into the finals, and then it's there's no talent,
what will happen? So, um, we we're very proud of
what we have. But you know, last year is kind
of in the all season war on me a little bit,
just based on there's not that that many times when

(01:08:32):
you have that many guys. So but but we're we're
getting there. Yeah. Um, you guys have a massive new
scoreboard in the end zone. Um, I just wonder if
that's if you feel like that's gonna be distracting when
you're headed that way right when you're when you're going
to what is at the east end zone? That is it?
It's so big, I mean it takes up and then
there's all this to the two other video boards. You've

(01:08:53):
got three video boards, but the one is just massive,
right is that if you take I think there's maybe
six video boards bigger than college football. But if you
take and and I'm not smart enough to do this,
but if you take how close it is to the
field and the size and get some kind of a

(01:09:15):
per capita the middle of the row measurement off that
it's by far the largest in the country. It's like
sitting in your living room in a man cave watching
the TV. And here's what we're gonna do that We're
in a practice six times in the next three weeks
on the field at different times in the day with
the video board running, just to try to figure out

(01:09:35):
what kind of a distraction it is, if any at all,
and get adjusted to it. Yeah, it's it's crazy. Um,
this is an aside. You mentioned how much you respect
Baker Mayfield as a college quarterback. You've seen him come
and you've seen him go. Generally, the big twelve quarterbacks
have not None of them have done much in the pros.
I've told people for like, one of the one of
the signs I thought that r G three wasn't who

(01:09:57):
he purported himself to be, was how handled himself when
you guys kicked their tail on your field. Who's been
the most Who's the guy who's the big, tough quarterback
that didn't succeed in the pros that you you you
would swear they're a quarterback. No one knows it better
than you. You would have sworn he was going to
be a good pro. Well, he's still announcing around. But
Brandon Wheaton was just to me a guy that was

(01:10:19):
a a sure fit based on a pure pat pocket passer,
had an uncanny ability to make a throw, and he
was intelligent. He was older, and you know, he went
to Cleveland and we don't know what's happened to guys
that went there. And then when he was in Dallas
at for a while, you know, I actually find played
pretty good at times. Um, you know, when he was
in there, days was kurt all the time, and they

(01:10:41):
don't they didn't le him throw the ball downfield at all.
He was just dinking dunk, which is not what he
does best. But and but and I still think that
he could do it. But obviously, you know, there's not
teams that have had just gone to him. But he's
a guy. But I'll tell you the guy that I
really like does at my homes. He's from day one
when I saw him a Texas handing the true freshman
and washed them mature. He can do like Lebronish style

(01:11:05):
stuff in football he can run one way and just
turn and flip the ball from his hips and throw
it forty yards down the field and hit somebody on stride.
He's frequously strong and fast, and I think you're gonna
see him really really take off once he gets to
custom And and they let him take over there in
Kansas City. All Right, everybody wants the mullet update. I've

(01:11:26):
seen it. It looks thicker, it looks well groomed, it
looks trimmed. What's what's the plan for the hair of
the season. Well, that's exactly what it is. Now. We
we put a little trended, dri up a little bit
and and put a little moose in it. Give us
get it a little body. But I I've actually trended
some in the summer. But I'll get to working too
much now. I won't mess with it for a while. So, uh,
it could it could get to the grizzly Adam stage

(01:11:48):
at any time over the next six eight weeks. College
basketball has changed their recruiting rules. There's been some adjustment
to college football. If I put My Gundy, who's a
former player, a former quarterback coach, former offensive coordinator, head
coach in position you can. You can change any two
rules you want for college football recruiting. What would you change, Well,

(01:12:08):
I would I would minimize the amount of time that
UM coaches can be on the road looking at underclassmen.
I just don't like to try to evaluate sixteen year
old kids and try to see if they can play
college football. We're a year ahead further than we should be.
But how but how do you But how do you

(01:12:28):
do that? Because you know now you get them to
commit early, they get on campus early, so they play
in the spring. The whole process has been sped up well.
But but but we we don't have to there's so
much technology now done. We don't have to do this.
We we've got every video of every kid in the
country sitting right here, and we're it's at our finger fingertips,

(01:12:52):
So we we don't necessarily have to UM spend the
time to go in and evaluate and have discussions with
kids that are sophomores in sixteen years old. UM. It's
okay to see them and look at them, but they're
you know, they're leaning towards potential contact at school with

(01:13:16):
young men that are sophomores of their spring year prior
to their junior year and coaches coming in and talking
to them and having you know, ten fifteen minute conversations
with him at school, And I just don't think that's good. Uh,
you know, it just just image a really good player.
How many coaches are gonna want to talk to that kid?
And he's sixteen years old, and he's in the spring

(01:13:36):
prior to his junior year, and he's in school during
the day alight, and so I just I don't think
that's good. Um. But but football has done a better
job than basketball. Basketball's way out of control in my opinion,
with what they do in their calendar and it's year
round and all that. But we we just have to
be careful that we don't let um other people influence

(01:13:59):
what we're on in football based on what's happened in
the basketball recruiting because it's just open enough to make
it a free ball and it goes all the time.
You can't really govern in police and then that's when
it's not really a good thing for the sport. Coach.
I can't wait to see on Fox Sports one on
the thirtieth it's gonna be hot, and that that that
that video board is gonna be spectacular. I will come

(01:14:21):
out and see one of those practices in person. And
thanks for bring our guest on on the doug Otlip Show.
He appreciate you and look forward to getting you out here.
Sometimes spent a couple of days with us. All right,
take care ey body, All right, let's do it, my
Gundy head coach Ocoma States. Get you an update on
what's going on the world of sports, yours Dan byre
Dan when he got Mariners round seven two to the
Texas Rangers, thinks in part to a couple of home
runs from Joey Gallow's now got thirty one on the season,

(01:14:42):
but the Mariners now but four on the board, and
the seventh inning was still runners. With still having runners
on base, it's Texas seven, Mariners six, top of seven
right now in the American League. Over in the National League,
Pirates lead the Rockies three to two in the top
of the fifth, while the Diamondbacks have just put two
on the board against the Reilly's in the bottom of
the third inning, it's Arizona two fills nothing. Angels without

(01:15:04):
Mike Trout today lead the Tigers to nothing of the second,
while the Mets blank the Reds today eight nothing the
n c Double As you were just talking with coach
Gundy about making changes to college basketball. Underclassman who went
undrafted in the NBA Draft would now be able to
return to their school, and as part of the new rules,
elite prospects who would be designated by USA Basketball would
be allowed to be represented by agents. But an ESPN

(01:15:26):
report says that USA Basketball was never consulted about this
by the n c Double A board of governors, So
there may be more to this than we know right now.
Rams gm Less need saying the team is in the
same zip code Ballpark area code if you will with
Aaron Donald as the sides continue to discuss a new
contract for the defensive tackle and Lebron James will make
his Lakers debut on Thursday, October eighteenth, when l a

(01:15:50):
is in Portland to face the Blazers. Doug Awesome stuff
Doug out the show Fox Sports Radio. We just started
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Who Skip Bayless would take to Shaun Watson over given
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(01:16:11):
pm Pacific Doug gott Leap Show, Fox Sports Radio. All right,
so yesterday we had Scott Frost, Nebraska's head coach, who
played quarterback at Nebraska. Today we had Mike Gundy, head
coach to Oklahoma State, who played quarterback at Oklahoma State. So,
Cindy Kats and your book in the show, you're doing

(01:16:32):
a great job getting to some of the elite college
football coach in the country. Let's continue the trend. We
need quarterbacks who played at the school in which they coach.
How many more are there? And one there? Clay Hilton
is a former quarterback, but he was a quarterback of
Western Kentucky, not at USC. You can have to search
to find the find the next one every day. This

(01:16:53):
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(01:17:14):
take Deshaun Watson over. Take a listen. I'm not trying
to knock Cam Newton because I've always said I really
like him as a quarterback. But I love Deshaun Watson
as a quarterback. And I'm going on early eye test
and I'm gonna throw into national championship games and it
was college football, but it was against the best defense
in college football, and he lit him up twice. He

(01:17:37):
has a little more poise and presence in the pocket
than Cam does. He's just he has a better feel
for the position overall than Cam does. I see and
feel higher leadership intangibles and DeShawn than he Cam. Cam
can occasionally go a little lebron and kind of separate
himself from the team when he's when he's down on
how other players are playing, he might put a towel

(01:17:58):
over's head and to say, I just can't stand to
watch this right now. Deshawn's got that presence about him
where people are gonna follow him Hell Wilson quality where
even though he's a superstar, he doesn't feel as though
he's a superstar. Uh. Look, I love Deshaun Watson. My
fear over Deshaun Watson is twofold one. We only saw

(01:18:18):
him really for two games last year, and the league
does get film on you and catch up with you. Secondly,
as great as he is, and I do think that
if fully healthy, I would prefer what I think DeShawn
Watski me. I think he's a better leader. I think
he's a more natural leader and more a more likable guy. Uh.
He does not have the body of Cam, but he

(01:18:40):
has better accuracy and maybe a better football arm than Cam.
My issue is he's had two torn a c ls
and that we've only seen him twice. So look, he
had a he Yes, he turned over the ball a
lot when he was in college. During his final year
at Clemson, but the reason was he had to make

(01:19:01):
more plays because they did not have the depth of
playmakers they had had in previous years. And then in
the College Will playoff, he ran more as opposed to
trying to show people he was a pocket passer. That's
my fear is when he struggled at times in college,
it was when he stayed strictly in the pocket, and
with age and time and with the second knee injury,

(01:19:23):
I think he'll spend more time in the pockets. So
I'm not as sold as everybody else's, even if I
agree with a lot of the things Skip is saying
about about Shawn as opposed to Camp doug Otlive show
here on Fox Sports Radio, I find it interesting that
the NBA releases some of their schedule. They get the
opening night schedule, and they get the Christmas schedule, and

(01:19:46):
the opening nights schedule in the Christmas schedule look exactly
the same for the Celtics and the Sixers, right, You
think the NBA knows. It's like, look, we've got two
huge markets, We've got two good teams. Let's just keep
riding that thing. Toronto is gonna be good. Mal which
He's gonna be good. I think the the Wizards have
a chance to be really good, but Sixers in Celtics

(01:20:07):
should be. The Celtics should be the best. The Sixers
are close to and the most man a little bit
more interesting. It feels like they're gonna play. They're gonna
be the Yankees and Red Sox right just they'll play
all the time Yankees and Red Sox players like oh uh,
stuck gotlip show on Fox Sports Video If you missed

(01:20:27):
Jason Lack canfora he joined us early. Let's miss Mike Gundy.
Download the Doug Gottlieb Show podcast iTunes, Fox Sports Radio
dot Com very download podcast. Matt Olson's gonna join us
up coming next? Have you guys seen? Are he canceled?
They moved up? BP? Woah? Damn? Was this the first

(01:20:48):
I heard of it? Or do you actually tell me
before that was the first you've heard of it? Would
have been good information, would have been good information. How
long did you know? Give me just a second. Let's see,
I knew exactly thirty minutes ago. Ro almost What do

(01:21:09):
you think should should Is that an information the host
should have had the immensely But yeah, probably he's operating
on Hawaiian time? Hey, bra, Bra, No, Hey, how's it?
No problem, Bra, No problems? Tway all right? I love Hawaii.
I love what I love everything from the poi to

(01:21:29):
the beaches to the sunsets. But my producer got engaged
and completely left his game in Hawaii. Would have been pertinent,
and it would have been would have information I should
have loved to have. All Right, you know what I'm
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(01:22:14):
Los Angeles, California. All right, we got a couple of
things to get to. Let's clean up some business here
in the Doug Godlip Show. Um, I'm being sold down
the river because I'm I just received a text that
says I received an email that said matt Olsen was

(01:22:36):
not going to join us. Ramos, I need you to
play Judge in Jury. Okay, all right, Judge Ramos, Doug
Gotlim Show, Fox Sports Tradio. Ryan Music is the producer.
Uh Cindy Katz is the booker, Dan Buyer of course
gives us our updates, and John Ramos on the ones
or two is plus he's the judge, the jury and

(01:22:59):
the executioner. So Ramos I said, it would have been
good information to have that matt Olsen of the Oakland
A's the Cinderella Oakland A's was going to join us,
and that after Ryan Music went back and said, hey,
it was like thirty four minutes ago that I found
out Matt Elson's gonna join it and not gonna join us,
and I failed to inform you, right, he failed proper protocols.

(01:23:22):
Cney Cats, of course, having Ryan Music's back, says, hey,
Gottli was you were on the email when matt Olsen canceled? Correct?
Is that? Is that what I'm reading here? That is correct?
Doug originally reported um as me failing to report, which
I did. However, so you're you're you're not doing the
urban Meyer. You're not failing to report. You didn't lie

(01:23:44):
about failing to report. You failed to report, but the
news was out there. What she's saying is I should
have known. I should have known because I should have
gone through the email. Um, Judge Ramos, what I'd like
you to know is, I'm not though I I do
see things flash on email. I do see things flash
on email. UM, I don't. Is it was? It is

(01:24:07):
in the title of the email on Olson that Olson
Madelson is canceled because emails flash in But I'm generally
not looking at my email during the show. I'm making
eye con tech with you, Ryan, with you John. I
will check on Twitter, although my tweet deck is not
working currently, and I have a message screen as well. Emails.
I might see the top line of them, but I
don't go through them. It was not in the headline

(01:24:29):
of the email. It was in the body and the
corresponding forwarded email from the Oakland Athletics. Yes, and I
believe the body of the email ramos, Uh, the judge ramos.
It says forward player requests for Doug Gottlieb's show Fox
Sports Radio tomorrow or Wednesday. If I dig through that,

(01:24:51):
if I pleased down uh several times. Can we do
mad Olson tomorrow? Sorry for the late note, but we
need to reschedule. Our team is scheduled for early hitting today,
so the team will be on the field at two.
Do you have another day or time that's open. I
have to dig a little bit to get that. That's
not even the initial message. It's not in the subject.

(01:25:14):
Should I have known the matter? Olson was canceling, sustained,
I just wanted to say that that's always I was like,
I was like, nobody had nobody objected, John? There was
no objection. Yes, So I'm actually again looking at the
facts as a as a host of the show, and

(01:25:34):
you're you're doing your stuff, and you have to focus
on what's going on. I believe highly in focus has
a judge. I don't think you needed to go into
that email to find out that. I think that is
the job of the producer to give you the information.
So I believe that I'm gonna rule in favor of
Doug Gottlieb. What's accept all right? I want to try
and describe with this gentleman's outfit. I saw it Whole

(01:25:57):
Foods before I got here. I know I should be
talking about sports, but um, I'm learning about all kinds
of different devices. So I did, in fact tweet out
this picture, but I did. I covered up the gentleman's
face to not completely close shame a guy. But I
sat down to have a quick little snack. This is
about an hour before the show. Get a nice tea

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yet a little food in the belly, so I wasn't starving.
And I looked across the way and a gentleman had
How would you describe that shirt music? It's like one
of those black man. Uh uh, there's there's a print print,
but there's a designer who who is a famous designer.

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I think it's like a Versaci shirt. I honestly think
that's a super and I think those are Versacci Like
they look like Vans but they're really and they have
a Versaci logo. I think he's got a Versaci shirt,
Versacci pants, and Versaci shoes on It almost looks like
a single it, like it's all one kind of thing

(01:27:03):
that he kind of made his way into. Like the
shirt is somehow attached to the pants, which almost somehow
attached down into the shoes, and they're all just one
flowing design. There's a bunch of parts, two of which
are disturbing. Um My man is definitely kind of got
hairy arms, which I don't think sell the shirt that

(01:27:25):
much better, But I'm not sure that's what makes it bad.
The print up top, the print and the pants, the
print in the shoes. I wouldn't. I would buy a
second set of all of it and burn all of
it together. Uh so much. I think it's the sizing.
It's got to be the number one issue. No, I
think the print the number one issue. The sizing is
the second issue, and then the hairy arms is the

(01:27:45):
third issue. But that's my thing, Ramos. Would you be
caught dead in that outfit? I wouldn't, but I'm sure
my wife Susanna has caught me in clothes close to this.
What the crazy is? I think that's a really expensive
That's what I was gonna say. So, Ramos, what if
someone told you the total value of the outfit was

(01:28:07):
I don't know something like that. I could. I wouldn't
be surprised if someone said that whole outfit costs over
a thousand dollars, but the shirt, the pants, and the
shoes over a thousand dollars and they gave it to
you for free. No, Doug gave it to you dougs like, hey,
we got a new sponsor on the show. Here's what
the clothes look like. It's worth over a thousand dollars. Ramos,

(01:28:29):
this is yours for free. Would you wear it? I
would not wear that. No, I'm with Doug on that's horrendous.
Which it's really really really bad music. You degree right,
it's bad. You You know what? It reminds me of
when the Rams mix and match their uniforms last year,
that this guy had the shirt and the shoes that matched,
but the pants have nothing like, doesn't it look like

(01:28:50):
the shoes and pants Actually the shirt and shoes actually
kind of match because it seems like there's some gold.
But then the white comes in on the pants. It's
so bad. It's it's it's so you yeah, it's it's.
Am I a bad person for for for taking a
snapshot of that? See, I think, but I think these

(01:29:12):
are that I think these are the things that united
said people as people like I don't want politics are
designed to divide us, right, these are things unite us
and we can laugh at somebody and get like, dude,
what are you wearing? You said? There go like, look,
I tell the story all the time. I played in
France for a month and a half after my first
year of broadcasting, played in France, and um, when I

(01:29:35):
got done, I got a little bonus, and so my
wife and I I've been working in radio locally in
Oaklahand City and I did games for ESPN, and then
I played a month and a half for Clement Fan
and then we went and my wife and I were like, hey,
well she came over for like a weekend. Let's stay
like a couple of days in Paris for we fly
home and we're walking around and I tried on some

(01:29:58):
um not for stat you what's the other armand some
Armani jeans. Now, the Armani jeans in reality net were
ahead of the time. They were this is like in
two thousand three. They were slim cut and they were
like a stretched denim material, but they were they were
tight now, and my wife was like, I like those.

(01:30:19):
I like those on you. And part of it is
I have a really good body, as you guys know.
Rama's knows. He tells me all the time. It's uncomfortable,
but Rama's it's fine anyway. So um I bought them.
And my only defense forever wearing them was they were
in fact Armani jeans. They were in fact really expensive,

(01:30:39):
but they were they were too tight for for the era.
They were too tight, you know, they were you could
tell my religion tight, right, that's how tight they were.
And so I do understand this, dude, if you wear
this stuff, you're like, well, you know, it's really expensive.
It's just so ugly. It's so ugly. It's one of
those things which the the even in the excuse of

(01:31:02):
it's it's expensive. I laugh. I'm like, what a complete
waste of money. I'm not sure I would use that
as a as a tablecloth, and it's really I did
promise that I would get to UM. I did promise
I would get to Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is right

(01:31:24):
and wrong in two things that he said yesterday. Here's
Aaron Rodgers getting after his UH wide receiver group after practice.
It was one of the worst card assessions we've had.
I don't know how you can make it any simpler
to literally have what the play would be in our
terminology on the card, and the effort level was very low,

(01:31:44):
especially what I'm accustomed to. I haven't run that period
for a number of years, so it's not a good
start for us in on the card and period for
the young guys. You know, I think Nancy has really
progressed obviously sixteen. But else was oh oh, now, look
he's calling out the young guys. Everybody calls out the

(01:32:06):
young guys, and we show you the card, you run
the play in the card doesn't seem all that hard.
But I guess my question to Aaron Rodgers, and I
don't follow his daily press conference, does he get onto
himself when he has a tough day I don't mind it.
It's it's look, it's good leadership to call dudes out
to to to let them know, hey, I'm paying attention
to you. If you can't keep up with us, then

(01:32:28):
you can't keep up that. We may be moving quick
for you, but it's not ridiculously quick. But there is
a little bit of there. There's a limit to it,
and there's a second side to it, which kind of
goes hand in hand with UH. Aaron Rodgers talking about
the franchise tag um, he says he wants to eliminate

(01:32:49):
the franchise tag because I think that gives a lot
of teams a lot of power over your future. They
can tag you a couple of times. That obviously restricts
player movement. If you think you don't have it, it
would incur if you don't have to encourage teams to
get deals done earlier. In the long run, it might
actually save them money because you're doing a guy's deal
a year before he's ready to play, especially young guys.

(01:33:09):
Maybe they'll get him on the cheap and if he
has a huge season UH this year, cheaper than they
would have gotten him the year after that. If you
sign him early, that already exists. Players are already getting
their deals redone before they need to be redone. The
franchise tag, by the way, is equally punitive to the
teams themselves, because teams, it's it just gobbles up their

(01:33:34):
cap space, completely gobbles up their cap space when you
franchise tag a guy. Case in point, the Washington Redskins,
who thought they'd be smart and tried to save money,
tried to get the Kirk Cousins deal done for uh
for pennies on the dollar, as they try to do,
but instead they end up franchise tagging him. It uses

(01:33:57):
up fifty million dollars essentially about in each year of
cap space, and they ain't They're not able to put
players around him. Does it restrict player movement? Your damn right.
It does, and that's a good thing. The NBA can
get away with it a little bit, but it turns
a lot more people off than it does turn them on.

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Teams are built based upon consistency, and so too is
their fan base, and having guys switched teams every year
is not good for business. All right. Coming up next,
Martellis Bennett is going to join the show. I'll ask
him about playing with Aaron Rodgers and about playing for
Tom Brady. Who's better? What's the difference between the two.

(01:34:40):
We'll ask him next. Be sure to catch live editions
of the Doug dot Leap Show week days at noon
Eastern three pm Pacific Doug Got Them Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Mm hmmmmmmm mm hmm. I mean who better to ask

(01:35:06):
about playing with great quarterbacks? In our next guest, Martellis Bennett.
Is you know he's played with some sick quarterbacks. Martell's
Bennett of course, played with the Cowboys, with the Giants, Bears,
with the Patriots, the Packers, and the Patriots again before

(01:35:27):
uh summarily retiring. Think about that, he played with Eli
two times Super Bowl champion, played with Aaron Rodgers super
Bowl champion, and of course he played with Tom Brady
so um, and he played with Tony Romo. So we're
gonna have rank of rankers quarterbacks, as we'll do, I
have him ranked his quarterbacks. Martellis Bennet will join us

(01:35:48):
a little bit later on the Doug Gotlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Best season romis, who do you think is?
Who do you think is best season? Was? Actually with
another quarterback who I have not mentioned, uh bears, who's
the quarterback? J Cutler? Cutler? Yeah, Jay Cutler? Think about

(01:36:17):
that crazy right? Uh Now? Some of that is you
know what, what is it? Necessity is the root of
all inventioned They were five and eleven that year, but
he was a pro bowler. He and Kyle Long and
Jay Cutler Josh McCown, those are the two quarterbacks that year.
So Martel's bennet will join us in a little bit
on the Doug Gottlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

(01:36:39):
I love I love that Aaron Rodgers says, hey, the
franchise tag is bad, and it felt like talking points
for the nfl p A. And I do think that
what this does is he's really smart, he's will really
well respected, he's going to get a new contract, and
he's trying to show support for the nfl p A.
So he wins points in the locker him, he wins

(01:37:00):
points league wide, but he did the talking points thing
where there's no kind of back and forth. I think
they help player movement. I think they help out sign
the contracts early. And I think what you get if
you ask teams as teams want to sign the contracts early,
players are not players are trying to drag it out,
drag it out to the last moment, because they feel
like the longer they wait, the more money they get.

(01:37:22):
The problem with dragging it out is you run the
risk of injury or run the risk of being too
old to capitalize on when you can get top dollar.
So I'm I'm fascinated by what happens. And the other
part to it is this, I have no doubt that
the NFL owners would consider dropping the franchise tag or

(01:37:47):
the number of years you can do a franchise tag.
But you're gonna have to give something back, you know,
whether it's a percentage point football generated income or some
other thing. But this this idea that the NFL owners
are just gonna go like, yeah, sure, you know what
you guys, Biel f real free free agency. We don't care. Good,
go ahead, move on, and we're not gonna get anything

(01:38:08):
back on turn that doesn't That's the That's what I
was trying to tell Ryan Music earlier, where he Ryan Music,
you're just joining us, producer of the show, chose to
ask his girlfriend of two and a half years or
so if she'd marry him. She said, yes, he's happily engaged.
You're gonna keep her name. It's a joke us a
joke anyway. What you'll learn though, in marriage is it's

(01:38:35):
give and take. Does give and take? Right? You give,
they take. That's the way it goes. That's the way.
I'm again a joke, but I mean like, look, you
come home and you know you fill up her glass
of wine. No, honey, I'll make dinner tonight. You're resting,

(01:38:57):
Go enjoy your favorite show. You wanna watch the Batch, right, go,
I'll take care of the kids. Right. That's that's the giving.
And yet at the end of the night, you take.
That's the way it works. This is no different than
the marriage between the NFL p A and the NFL.
They're the owners, you're the players. They need you, but
you need them. They laid out all that money you

(01:39:19):
need them to improve. And this whole idea that NFL
players will strike will hold out like I don't know
how many times you have to hear it, but they
can't afford to do it. The rank and file the
highest percentage number of union guys. They're not concerned about
franchise tags. They're concerned about how much can I get
as a minimum guy, how much can I be guaranteed

(01:39:42):
per year? The big money guys, they'll always get compensated
above their actual level of value. Quarterbacks don't speak for
the rest of the league. Need to do wide receivers.
Let's get to Dan buy or find out what else
is going on in the world of sports Dan when
he got my friends well Doug. After taking recommendations from
the ICE Commission and also some of their suggestions, the

(01:40:02):
n C Double A Board of governors making changes to
try to clean up the corruption in college basketball. Some
new rules and policies, including allowing underclassmen who went undrafted
in the draft to be able to return to their school. Also,
elite prospects who are going to be designated by USA
Basketball would be able to be represented by agents. There's

(01:40:22):
just a problem. USA Basketball reportedly doesn't know anything about this,
so there may have to be some clean up on
that end. The n C Double A has also made
school presidents and chancellors responsible for what goes on at
their schools. There will also be increased penalties when it
comes to postseason bands, recruiting restrictions, and coaching suspensions. Lebron
James gonna make his Lakers debut on Thursday, October eighteenth,

(01:40:45):
when l A is in Portland to face the Blazers.
Lebron's home debut is at Staples Center Saturday against the
Saturday October twenty against the Houston Rockets. A report from
ESPN says Lebron and the Lakers will be in Cleveland
to take on the Calves Wednesday, November twenty one. Rams
g m let's need of the teams in the same
zip code ballpark area code with Aaron Donald as the

(01:41:06):
sides continue to talk contracts for the defensive tackle. In baseball,
Rangers dropped the Mariners today eleven to seven. Joey Gallow
a couple of home runs, Pirates on top of the
Rockies three two in the seventh, Arizona blanking the fields
right now for nothing in the sixth inning, no Mike trout,
but the Angels are on top of the Tigers, dug
by a score of two to nothing. Now, look, if

(01:41:26):
you have to look a little bit closer into some
of these things, okay, um, A couple of things are
that the n c A assumes assumes that the NBA
will change your draft age to eighteen. That's part of
why they're putting it on USA Basketball determine or the
NBA somebody to term what elite prospect is. I think

(01:41:48):
that's a really gray area. I think that's that's the
understand they're operating on the sand. I hate that. And
oh yeah, this idea of guys being able to declare
to the draft, not declare to the draft, the waving
of the white flag and sending guys directly, they're basically
creating college baseball rules. The only difference is you can then,
unlike college baseball, put your name back in after your

(01:42:10):
first year, your second year, and your third year, whatever,
and still come back to school. That's what they're saying.
I don't like that at all. Do you know why?
How relevant is college baseball? And you can say to yourself, well,
the differences there's a minor league system. It's better than
the G League. I agree with you. I think it's
a I think the smart play is to go to
college basketball, where they promote you, they coach guys your age.

(01:42:34):
The facilities, frankly are better than the G League. The
G League just just they just there's not enough jobs.
But there's gonna be a massive flood to the NBA.
Draft the first couple of years, because everyone's gonna think
they're gonna beat the numbers. Under disgust is the fact
that the n c A is overhauling the process of

(01:42:56):
investigating and adjudicating the complex cases. There's gonna be two
independent groups that will and that if you have a
they have a big investigation, They're outsourcing. They're getting out
of the investigation business. The first independent group called the
Complex Case Unit. Well, that sounds like SPU, doesn't. It

(01:43:20):
will include both the external investigators with no school or
conference affiliation and select n c enforcement staff. It will
decide whether further investigation is needed. A second group, called
the Independent College Sports a junct UH Adjudication Panel sorry Adjudication,
which will comprise the fifteen people in backgrounds and law,

(01:43:42):
higher education sports no affiliation to the n c A,
schools or conferences will review the findings of the first group,
oversee the hearing's death penalties, decide penalties if if if applicable.
In other words, dude, we're outsourcing. We're we are completely out,
completely out of legislation whether or not teams broken see

(01:44:03):
rules and what their penalties should be. But and then
the other one, which is interesting is fifteen potential visits.
That's a lot for a basketball player. A lot. Alright,
more on that to come. Doug outlip Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Let's catch up with Martellis Bennett. Of
course we were, Martellis. We were pointing out all the

(01:44:24):
quarterbacks you play with? Right, Cutler, Romo, Eli, a Rod
and Tom Brady. Who's the best quarterback you play with?
You're missing a lot of them? Huh, you're listening a
lot of guys, all right? Who did I miss? Brett Hanley,
John Kittinger, Brad Johnson, David Carr. I picked the good ones.

(01:44:51):
I picked the really good ones. Who's the best quarterback
you play with? Bollinger? Who's the best quarterback you play with?
I said, good ones? I mean, I don't know? Is
all to each his own. I was fortunate to play
with all the really good quarterbacks. There's not one guy.
Brady and Rogers. Are they that much better than everybody else?

(01:45:12):
I think that, um, no one has more armed talent
than Aaron. Aaron could do pretty much anything with the ball. Uh.
I feel like Tom is really Tom is precise easier
to play with. I would say it's easier to play

(01:45:33):
with Tom than anybody else. What why? What? What? What
is it? What is it about that makes it easy
to play with? He just makes the game easy, like
what he expects and where he wants you to be
and where he's putting the ball, And it's just repetition.
He does so many reps with you and repetition, whether
it's mental reps or uh, physical reps or walk through
like he's always like letting you know. He communicates the

(01:45:56):
best of like what he expects in the community. I
think like the commune occation between him and receiver, it's
probably like on the highest level of like what you
like to do, what he likes to throw, and he
see something if you asked him to do something hill
try and he's like, oh yeah, let's go with it.
So I think he was probably the easiest to work with.
You had one of your biggest bounce back season was

(01:46:17):
with Eli and the Giants that kind of propelled you
to kind of a second stage of your career. What
was it like, I don't think I wouldn't call it
a bounce back season. Okay, Well, I mean maybe it's
because maybe it's because you maybe it's because you did
in New York. Maybe it's because you did in New
York that it felt bigger, right because in New York

(01:46:37):
is my first year as a starter. I was a
backup four years and Dallas of me, I don't know
what people would expected me to do behind Jason, So
that I mean going to New York was my first
year to be a full time starter. I wouldn't call
it a bounce a bounce back year. It was just
a year to be in position to make plays. What
was it? What was it like to play with Eli?

(01:46:58):
I love Eli? Elives great. Uh. I mean, he's a
good quarterback that 'll play with He taught me a
lot like the same thing. He had the same type
of communication level as um As Brady, as far as like,
let you know what to do with the spect Like
there's some different routes, like a basic route if it's
a gift Tampa two. You know, he'd like for you
to run in a knife underneath the salm and just

(01:47:19):
sitting in the soft spy and that hole. You know,
so it almost turns into a deeper OTB. But you know,
instead of running and trying to run around the salm
and get in the second window or the first one
that he just wants you to right to the first one,
thow and sit down, and he likes to get it
to like little things like that, like just a communication
level of just being out there and playing with him. Statistically,
you had your best year with the Bears. Obviously the

(01:47:39):
team wasn't that good that year, but you've got a
ton of balls caught nanny balls that you're you're you're
a pro bowler. But Jay was a guy to which
no matter how much talent he had, no matter how
deep took the Bears in the playoffs, people just didn't
love him like he now. He's probably bigger as a
reality show guy now than and more likable now is
a reality show guy than he was as a quarterback.
What was your j Cutler experience? Like? That's because as

(01:48:01):
a quarterback you have certain parameters and as expectations for
a guy to be Like so I think if you
just accept people for who they are, then you want
you won't have that with Jake Color, you know what
I'm saying. Like j on TV, he just gets to
be who he is and people like that because it's
just they don't have these parameters of what they think
he should be like right, and then but what J

(01:48:22):
mean we I love playing with J J. Total Jacob
to the ball very I mean, nobody's gonna get you
the ball the way Jay get you the ball. Martella
Spennett joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox
Sports Radio March. You announced your retirement. Now we're into August. Uh,
there's already been one preseason game, bunch of preseason games

(01:48:42):
tomorrow night. You miss it? I think preseason is ridiculous. Well,
but but do you miss it football? Yeah? No, no,
not at the moment, not even a little bit. No, huh,
good with it done? Just do you want to do

(01:49:02):
these animated You want to do animated stuff instead? Like
that's you're onto the next thing and no looking back. Yeah,
pretty much. I'm moved on. Like It's like I hate
when people be like, oh he retired. I didn't retire.
I just worked for another at another company. Now, was like,
there's no if you left you know, your radio station.
After you know, however many years you've been doing it,
and go work somewhere else. You didn't retire from where

(01:49:23):
you were. You just want to go do something else. No,
but I was doing Look I worked at ESPN then
I worked at CBS, don't work to Fox. I've essentially
had the same radio show in the same hours and
done TV as well. If I if I started doing
The Fantastical Adventures of a j which is your new
animated show, that is a complete career change, And people
would say, hey, do you miss getting on the radio
every day and saying what you think about sports in life? Right?

(01:49:46):
I think that's a reasonable question to ask what I'm saying.
But I'm saying like I would say that you retired.
I retired from radio because you can't the differences in football,
you can't go The assumption is you can't go back,
Like you stopped playing, you can't go back, And we
see that with To. But why do you think To
wants to still play? I think he just loved the

(01:50:07):
game so much. I think it's more out of a
love for something. Like imagine loving something your entire life
and no longer being able to do that, not because
of like just because physically you're not The people don't
think that you can't do it physically, and use like
this physical specimen, you feel like you still can. So
like when you love something and someone like it's taken

(01:50:29):
away from you for different reasons then being realizing that
it's not you that can't do it anymore. I think
it's totally different. It's like it's like if they kicked
you off, that they told you that you couldn't do
radio no more, it would be totally different, you know
what I'm saying, Like, like it would be totally different.
Would be like if you lost your voice. You know,
like listen, like you literally literally lost your voice. Well,

(01:50:51):
it knows like like like your voice changing, and people
say you can't do radio normal because your voice not
the same. You know, you can still do it because
you can still talk, you can still run. You didn't
lose was like your ability to talk. It just sounds different.
Now Martellas Pennett joining us in the Doug Otlip Show
here on Fox Sports Traders, So could you still do it?
We'll play football? Yeah? Yeah, So why not? Don't love it? Not?

(01:51:15):
Just done? Done with that phase of your life, because
like Chargers lose Hunter Henry, that's a that's a potential
playoff team, maybe even super Bowl team. They call you like, hey, dude,
we want to take a look. No interesting, you sound
like John Kittner Right now, I'm asking you a question. No,
I mean, I mean, I don't know. I mean I

(01:51:36):
could probably played a good four or five more years
if I wanted to physically, So why not do it?
Because I don't want to do it anymore. I want
to go do something else with with myself, my life.
I feel like I seen years of I mean I
did it for teen years. You know. It was just
like I just have all these other dreams I want
to do. I want to do before I die. It's

(01:51:57):
fair point what people say New England playing a New
England's not fun? Is that fair? I don't think it's fair.
Some people don't think Disneyland is fun. Who doesn't think
Disneyland is fun? Like if you're waiting the lines the
whole time, okay maybe, but riding the rides Disneyland is fun?
What levels of fun it is? You know? Like if
you're a roller coaster guy, you're like, well, six Flags

(01:52:18):
I like a little bit better, and then go ahead.
You can say the same thing about if you one
of the people's like what they say, oh, practice is
not fun, but when if the games is fun, it's
no different waiting in line and then get into the ride.
It's the same thing okay, But um in comparison to
the other places, like looking with the Cowboys, with Bears,
you with the Packers, um you're with the Giants. Was

(01:52:40):
it was it less fun to go to work with
the Patriots that it was elsewhere. No, some in some
regards it was more fun because they just didn't worry
about anything else but football. In some of the other
workplaces they worry about like who you are, like you dress,
what you look like, all this other stuff Like I mean,
coming to work to play football only thing culture should

(01:53:02):
be talking to you about his football, like don't like
everything else ridiculous. I had my most fun in my
NFL career plan for the Patriots martell Us Bennett joining
us the Fantastical Adventures of a j first animated series.
My question is is this is this c G I
or did you draw? Like did you draw these things?
Or is it I usually draw original characters catches, and

(01:53:25):
then my company and we do animation like we do
animation like well, like I don't have animators in house,
so like you outsourced the animation, but I wrote it,
directed it. Um, I scored it, did school with my friend.
Um we did the score. I did a casting. I
did a voice over in it. I produced it. I
mean I pretty much did everything you could possibly do

(01:53:46):
it except for the actual animation. Take or take take it,
take a j your your character. You've written books and
The Adventures of the Imagine Imagination Agencies. Hey, aj series
that out. Your favorite cartoon ever is what Tom and Jerry? Yeah?
I like the bulldogs and Tom and Jerry. What's the butcher?

(01:54:08):
What's up? What's the bulldogs name? In Tom? Yeah? You know,
last last week I was in New York. I was
staying at the Parker, but Parker Meridian and when you're
in the elevators, they play Tom and Jerry on the
on the on the TV. I'm like, man, I feel
like they feel like Saturday Morning Cartoons was as a kid.
You know, they don't watch Saturday Morning Cartoons anymore. Yeah,
because you could get you could get content anywhere anytime now,

(01:54:30):
so like to have something that tops up. That's the
whole thing. That's the whole thing wrong with cable television
right now, Like why wait weekly to watch your episode
over your show when you could just go bench watch
it all at one time. So like it's like, do
you really want to wait a week to be to
see what happens and the show that good. So that's
like the whole thing now, Like Saturday Morning Cartoons was
great because you waited all there's no other cartoons during

(01:54:52):
the week, and then Saturday you came up. You know,
all your favorite shows that will be on there, from
from static Shock the Duck tells the Else Been to
Rescue Rangers, to all the the animanti acts, all the
shows that come on depend on showing you watch. You know,
Saturday morning that was the place to be. You got
up early, you got your bowl of cereal, and you
said there you watched the cartoons. But now with the

(01:55:12):
consumption of media happened at all times anytime, you don't
have to wait too to get a show. So with
being so much population out there to consume, everyone could
pete and no one wants to take the time to
kind of craft something that's just like a boutique type
uh atmosphere to watch the show. A couple of things.
First of all, it's all all genius. You catch it.

(01:55:34):
Catch the Hey a J It's bedtime, or Hey a J,
it's Saturday books. Go to Barnes and Noble dot com
or the Imagination Agency dot com. Martellis Bennett joining us. Okay,
you talked about Saturday morning on the couch bowl of cereal. Okay,
here's the question, a couple of questions. The best cereal
for for that setup is what Captain Crunch with the berries,
Captain Country with the barris. Okay, you get done eating

(01:55:56):
the Captain Crunch. You got a bull and it's got
milk in it. The olk is pink, right, do you
drink that? Do you drink the milk or do you
put do you fill it up with more Captain Crunch
until there is no more milk? Fill it up with
more crush. There's a little bit milk left. Do you
drink it with the spoon or do you tip it
up sideways and just slip it up. I don't need

(01:56:17):
a straw, I'll just tip the bowl up. I'm still
a savage. All these are all of these are great answers.
All these are great answers. The proper answer, though, should
have been just so you know, uh, you don't have
that that you didn't have the test syllabus or whatever,
but it should have been um road runner, especially with
wildly coyote, that's the best cartoon. I'm personally a Golden
Graham's guy, and I like, Oh, Golden Grams are big time,

(01:56:42):
but the Golden Grams are Golden Grams are big time
this year, Captain Crunch is great. You'll win the popular
vote with Golden Grams, but I win the sensible vote
with Golden Grams. I'll go Raisin Brand before I go.
I like. I like Raisin Brand tears me up a
little bit, a little bit too much personal information. I
just I just Martella, let's do this again sometime, really
really soon. Love having you on. Thanks for joining us.

(01:57:04):
All right, that's Martellis Bennett joining us in the Doug
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Doug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio, Well the geez and
two in the Moaning h h Doug Gotlip Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. All right, got an update on
the biggest holdout in the NFL. Let's get to it
with the press. The press, m M M m M

(01:58:36):
Dan Buyer, what do you have, my friend? Let's start
out in the NFL rams g M les need saying
the teams to the same zip code ballpark area code
with Aaron Donald as the sides continued to discuss a
new contract for the defensive tackle. UH in the same
ballpark in the same zip code means they're getting close.
And of course the pressures on Inner and Donald to

(01:58:58):
get in I think today right or he loses he
potentially loses that yesterday was yesterday was the day, doesn't
really matter. Means they're gonna get a deal done if
he goes past the dead deadlines bring deals. I'm guessing
they're really clue. It's dot in the eyes, acrossing the
dot in the eyes, crossing the teeth. Right, is that right?
That is correct? Sorry, it took me a while. There's

(01:59:18):
another holdout in Oakland, but we're not talking about Khalil Mack. Instead,
we're gonna talk about this. NFL Network analyst James James
Jones says that new Raiders wide receiver Martavis Bryant doesn't
know the playbook right now as he's at his first
Raiders camp since Oakland dealt a third round pick to
Pittsburgh for him. Yeah, that's that's not doing your Homer
from Oakland. I'm telling you us people around the NFL

(01:59:40):
and they'll tell you, Bro, Well, he don't, uh, Jon Gruden,
he didn't know. He doesn't know some of the guy's
background stuff like Mark Tavis Bryant is one, you know,
one slip up away from being out of the league
again because of the drug testing policy. Additionally, he's having
trouble picking up a rather complex playbook. Viewership for last

(02:00:03):
week's Hall of Fame game the lowest since according to
the Sports Business Journal. The report says the Ravens Bears
game was down more than sevent from a year ago
when it was the Cowboys and Cardinals. The numbers for
the Hall of Fame ceremony slightly down from a year
ago on ESPN and the NFL network. Um, why do

(02:00:23):
you think that is? I think the Cowboys not playing
in that game had something to do with it. But
I also do you think that not as many people
are watching football? It's not that it isn't as It's
not that it's not number one, it's just maybe not
as many as there once were. Yeah, yeah, I get.

(02:00:44):
I don't think it's I don't think it's as Do
I think the flag thing is part of it a
little bit? Do I think it's people think that football
is gonna go away? I think there's a small portion
of people. Is football feeling? Does it seem like it's
on TV all the time? Sure? I think the teams,
although the Bears are usually big national draw, they've just
been bad and everybody knew we weren't even gonna see

(02:01:04):
the starters for either team. UM, Ravens aren't a huge
national draw. I think it's a bunch of factors in it.
UM I want. I wonder if the t O thing
hurt it as well. T O is not popular, but
TO is something that something that people would watch, someone
the people would watch. Of course, t O wants played
for the forty nine ers. The forty Niners will erect

(02:01:26):
statues depicting the Catch with Dwight Clark and Joe Montana
exactly twenty three yards apart as they were during that
famous play. The representation of Clark with his hands out
stretched as he makes the catch will extend to eleven
feet in the air. I love the I love what
Joe Montana said at his funeral that Dwight Clark eustalls
tell them, you know, they don't call it the pass,

(02:01:46):
they call it the catch. Very good Pelicans Sun free
agent center Julio okafor Yeah, that's till like a partial
guaranteed deal, right man, Oh, how the Mighty have fallen.
He is a He is a relic from a fore
gone era. ESPN reports that Lebron James will make his
return to Cleveland as a member of the Lakers on Wednesday,
November twenty one, the day before Thanksgiving, to take on

(02:02:08):
the calves. Fascinating. It'll be fascinating to see uh Lebron James,
the use of him on tv UM. You know what
happens if they're bad? Does he play in all these
nationally nationally televised games? Always interesting to see what the
how the ESPN in turner folks view the NBA in
terms of viewership numbers, because that's really what matters in

(02:02:28):
the regular season. Tomorrow, we're live at Chargers Camp. All
the boys will be down there. Philip River is gonna
join us. Head coach, Anthony Lyn's gonna join us. Gentlemanager
Tom talasco is gonna join us. Beautiful coast to Mesa, California.
The boys will be making the track on the freeway there.
You're going to do in the opposite of my normal community.
Great day, Great day. So if you're headed that way,

(02:02:49):
you head out to see the Bolts, come out and
see us noon to three Pacific time, course three to
six East Coast time. Stuck gotli schell momentous day with
the n c A change. I'm sure we'll they'll back
to that upcoming next plus Aaron Rodgers comments all that
to come on The Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio,

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