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January 15, 2018 • 122 mins

Doug argues it's okay to blame players for blowing the game like Marcus Williams did in Saints vs Vikings. He also explains why the Steelers issues finally surfaced in the playoffs against the Jaguars. Super Bowl Champion Seth Joyner joins the show to give his thoughts on the "Minneapolis Miracle" and how the Eagles upset the Falcons.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Sports Boom, What Up America Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio coming to you today from the sunny
city of Miami, actually Coral Gables, Florida, where I'm watching
Miami and they're shoot around getting loose. They take on
the Duke Blue Devils tonight. I'll be broadcasting the game
for Compass. Uh Compass Radio Media Networks or whatever something

(00:25):
or other Compass Anyway, anyway, I get to be at
a game and uh, watch a cool game and do
a cool radio show. And look, there's a lot of
things that I could start with in some strong takes
about the robbery of the Drew Brees greatness. I thought
Cal Heard had a really good take earlier today, because
it is true that so often times in sports were
so consumed by whose team wins and whose team loses.

(00:48):
Here's Drew Brees has won a Super Bowl, had a
shot at another Super Bowl, and uh, though he didn't
play well in the first half, he played well enough
down the stretch to win a game with I think
maybe a little bit of an inferior team, especially defensively
to the Minnesota Vikings, and one missed tackle is all
it takes to change history, but that's the way it goes,

(01:10):
so here it goes so. And I want to talk
about the Steelers, as we have seen the cracks in
the armor of the Steelers all season long. And it's
one thing to lose to the Jaguars, it's another thing
to give up forty five to the Jaguars on your
own home field. So there's a little bit of I
told you so, and a little bit of I may

(01:32):
have told you so, but I didn't think it would
go down like that. A lot to get to. Let
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We got some head coaching news, some movement after yesterday's games,
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(01:54):
litany of outstanding guests for you. Outstanding guests for you.
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(02:16):
to download the podcast you misseday of the show. Chris Spielman,
whose brother Rick, of course runs the Minnesota Vikings. He's
an NFL analyst for Fox Um who made famous the
football statements see ball hit ball, which of course there
was no seeing of ball last night. On the last play,
Chris Pielman will join us upcoming in fifteen minutes. D'Angelo Williams,

(02:37):
from a Pro Bowl running back, gonna join us in
the second hour of the show. Seth Joiner, a Super
Bowl champion of former Eagle great will join us in
the third hour of the show, as will Michael Lombardi,
former NFL GM former president of NFL Teams, who has
a great podcast with The Ringer. Will get his thoughts
on the coaching movement and his thoughts on what we
saw this past weekend. A ton to get to um.

(03:02):
I love that in sports we so often want to
make it a part of it by the team, right,
It's about the team. It's not about a guy. One
guy does not cost you a game. The team, the team,
the team, right, Yeah, but that's not really what happened
last night. I mean come on, man, we can't in

(03:24):
fact blame it on one guy, can't we Marcus Williams,
who did play well, who has had a really good season. Uh,
he did with he didn't see the ball. Because I still,
even after the moment, don't think Marcus Williams understood what
he did wrong. Right. It was like um, private loud
and Downey in uh A Few Good Men, Ramas you

(03:48):
remember that movie, A Few Good Men, Right, very good,
very good. Right. You know, let's let's let's work our
way backwards. Here's Marcus Williams explaining what he thought went
wrong at that point. You know, I just gotta make
the tackle when he comes down. You know, it's just
the little things that you that you see and you
gotta make sure you you do all that you can

(04:09):
to get him down. Regardless it was only ten seconds left.
I knew the situation. Uh, you gotta make sure you
you gotta make sure you make the play. Yeah, yeah,
all you had to you had to look up. It
didn't even come down to necessarily making the tackle. This
is one of the things when you when you're in
terms of sports now and sports nowadays, is it's hard

(04:31):
to teach kids situational time, score, momentum possession. Knowing all
these things, Williams knew he was supposed to be on
the outside, and he knew he was supposed to make
the tackle. But he still doesn't know why he missed
the tackle. Like he think it's he thinks it's because
he went for the legs instead of you're going to
wrap up. It's because he didn't even see he didn't

(04:53):
see the rule number one. I look, I didn't play
college football. I didn't play professional football. I played college
basketball and and professional basketball. But I was I was
taught at a very young age to play tackle football.
And we told it to you after Ryan Shazier got hurt.
One of the first things you're taught when you learned
to tackle is is see what you hit. You have

(05:17):
to see what you hit. And he didn't see what
he had hit. It's not a question of just making
the play. It's a question of the basic fundamentals of
the sport. But here's my question. You um of the
things you've seen go down in big situations in your life,

(05:39):
that one's got to be up there. And and what
I think is memorable about it is the drip drip
drip kind of the blood dripping from the body of
the Vikings to where you're like, all right, they're about
to expire, right, you know how the movie, the guy's
laying there and he's saying his last words, and you know, like, okay,

(06:00):
death is death is very near. Death is coming, and
then all of a sudden he sits up and he
says his last words and he expires. Right. That was
the Minnesota Vikings. They get the ball with twenty five
seconds left, and they had used a time out on
the previous defensive possession, not to get a time out,
but instead to get a replay, which did overturn a play.

(06:20):
But you can't actually challenge at that point in time
in the game, so now they only have one time out.
The first play is a false start. You're like, oh boy.
Second play, they catch it in bounds and they do
make up some yards, but there's seventeen seconds left and
they burn that time out. Right. Then they run the
exact same play and Keenum throws it to a different

(06:40):
wide receiver who falls down. Then on second down, Keenum's
pressured and the ball and now we're we're dealing with
ten seconds lap. You can't throw it over the middle.
The the only hope is to catch it and to
get out of bounds. And you feel like, all right,
he's dying. This thing is done. God do you feel

(07:00):
bad for the Minnesota Vikings fans. But you start to think, Okay,
we could have Brady versus Peyton in the Super Bowl.
We never got We've never gotten Brady versus Rogers. That
didn't happen. You know, we never got Tony Romo in
the Super Bowl. We did once yet, Manning versus Peyton,
but it was here in Miami and it was pouring rain.

(07:21):
It was a terrible, terrible game, right, Well, no, no,
that was Manning versus the Bears. Manning versus the Bears.
So you were just hoping. You're like, at some point
you went from being a Vikings fan to being like,
you know what, Saints aren't that bad. It's more fun
to watch than the Eagles going to the super Bowl. Okay,
I'm kind of in on the Saints. And then that happened.

(07:43):
And whether you said, oh my god, which is what
case Keenum said and what I said and my kids
are running around the house, or you said, holy bleep,
whatever you said Romos did, you were you watching the
game live yesterday. I was that is correct you, I mean,
and I assume you thought it was over. I did
think it was over. I pretty much figured that's exactly
what you just said about that. It's watching them expire,

(08:04):
Like watching the game finished, I was like, oh, that's that.
But I guess like they weren't even in range. They
weren't in range for a hailm Mary. You're like, no
way this happens. And then you look, they do pan.
They show the entire figure like, well, you know, it's
not far. They could complete a pass and maybe kick
a field goal, and they're like, well, maybe they could
throw it over the middle. Then you realize you're just
not the time to throw it over the middle, to

(08:25):
line up to spike it, to run your field goal
team out there, and to kick a field goal. You're like,
this does not There is no way. Nothing voted well, right,
nothing voted well for them. No, Um, Ryan, what were you?
Where were you watching? I was watching at my girlfriend's
parents house. Now your isn't your isn't your future father

(08:48):
in law? Sorry, that's the only way I could describe it, right.
I can't go your your girlfriend's dad, right? I don't know.
It just doesn't sound as good as your future father
in law, your future father in law whatever you wanna
call him, daddy. Um uh, Now he's a Vikings fan,
isn't he. They root for the Vikings. Yeah, it's sort
of like their family ties or from that area of
the country. So yeah, they were, They were rooting for

(09:10):
the Vikings. That's correct, the cold area of the country. Yes,
in California, prefer to call it. See why does anybody
actually live there? It is beautiful in the summer, but
it is not summer very often. Um and okay, so
what was your thoughts? I thought? I was. I thought
that there was certainly a chance that they would maybe
get a field goal, but by no means that I

(09:30):
think that there was going to be a game winning touchdown.
I was, So I was going back. I watched some
of the game, and then I went to the park
with my son. We were he was playing pick up
basketball as some other kids. My wife was texting me,
and so I texted her because one of my best
friends of Vikings fan and and I said, you know,
this is just so you know, it's going to come

(09:51):
down to a Vikings field goal. They always missed a
big field goal, right, and so of course Kai for
Bath made the fifty three yard field goal, which means
she's you're eating your When I got back home, so
we made the fifty three yard field goal, it's like,
you're eating your words. I'm like, no, this game is
not over. So I assumed it would come down to
another field goal, and then boy, it really felt like

(10:11):
I just felt like they couldn't get the ball close
enough to even attempt one. And so then we started
talking with my kid my kids, like can they kick
a seventy yard field goals? Like when you can, but
you're not gonna make it, Like it's legal. It's like, yeah,
it's legal to kick a field goal from that far.
Like why don't they try because nobody can kick it
that far? Uh. Dan Buyer is uh. He's originally from Wisconsin.
He's a Seahawks fan. It's very important to point that out.

(10:33):
Brewer fan, but a Seahawks fan. By or where were
you watching the game? We're in studio yesterday. No, I
was actually at home. My wife and I were going
to meet some friends for dinner before they moved out
of town. But we wanted to wait until the end
of the game, and I was in shock. I was
in shock an hour after it happened, just because of
everything you talked about. They're not in hell Mary Range.

(10:56):
All you have to do is make the tackle. It
doesn't matter if Digs catches it, just as because he
doesn't go out of bounds. Every thing that you said
in the first ten minutes is what I was thinking of.
Why didn't that happen? How did this happen? No offense
to case Keenum. But then you're like, well, case Keenum's
throwing the ball. Remember when they even said like if
they're down, maybe they'll go to Sam Bradford because they'll

(11:16):
need somebody to throw it. So now you still have
case Keenum on the field. All of that completely shocked. Um.
I actually think the one that the one that I
the the game that it's I'm trying to think, which
one's the Auburn one in the Iron Bowl? Um the kicks, Yes,

(11:37):
that one. That one was one to which I was like,
well this one that but that was going to overtime
is the difference, right? But it was that was that
was probably the most stunning. We go from either they
make it and we go to overtime and they miss it.
I mean they miss it. We go to overtime, they
make it, they win it to actually losing the game,
which like I cannot believe that happened. Oh sorry, h no,

(12:01):
no going, I was gonna say the Patriots Seahawks. He
shut up, Ryan, No. That that's the one that it
reminded me the most of, Like the Seahawks are about
to win this game, to all of a sudden it
is over in the Patriots. Just one. It happened really fair.
The one thing about that Seahawks game is I was screaming,

(12:21):
why doesn't Belichick let them score? If you remember they
let him score earlier in that possession, they would have
had time back for Tom Brady to get the football,
and they totally miss Man, the Patriots totally mismanaged the clock. Yeah,
they didn't use their They had time outs that they
could have used and didn't. Here's the thing with the Seahawks.
You expected the Seahawks to score, but they didn't. Like

(12:44):
the Saints had the games, like the Seahawks don't necessarily
have the game, yet they still needed to get in.
The Saints had the game, it was theirs, and they
let it slip away. Um, yeah, I don't even think, like, oh,
for Derek Fish, you're making the shot with point four seconds.
I don't think that equates to it, because there wasn't

(13:04):
really a nobody really blew the nobody blew the play right.
It wasn't like the like they threw it in and
he just caught it and threw it up and there
was good defense and it's just a miracle shot, right
that one. I don't I don't think you can fault.
You can't fault the Spurs for that one. Um. I
guess you could maybe fault the Texas Rangers for having

(13:25):
having the Cardinals down to the last strike in Game
six twice. But we have seen that before in baseball.
This has never happened before. We never had a walk
off touchdown of that length with no time on the
clock in the playoff in the history of the playoffs.
So you did, in fact watch history. The other part

(13:46):
that's amazing about it is I don't know any I.
I have one friend who's a Viking fan. I have
one kind of family who kind of likes the Saints
because the husband's from from Louisiana. Outside of that, I
don't like nobody really can't us. There are two teams
that nobody really cares about. I also know everyone I
know watched that game, and everyone I know is just

(14:08):
blown away by how it ends. I cannot believe how
it ended. Three time All pro an NFL on Fox Handlist.
Chris Spielman will join the show up coming next. I'll
ask him about that game. Um, and you know, I
gotta talk a little bit about the the Eagles. Plus
what now with the Steelers dominated at home give up
forty five to a Blake Bortles led Jaguars team. We

(14:31):
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(15:54):
Rick runs the Phisota Vikings. Uh what a what a
what a crazy crazy crazy end uh two uh to
the game that we had yesterday I mean, just man,
I don't even know how to explain it. Chris Bielman
joins the NFL on Fox Course, former pro bowler in
his own right, Chris, um, see ball, hit ball, right?

(16:16):
Don't you have to see the ball to hit the ball?
That That's that's the big thing that Marcus Williams did wrong,
isn't it. Yeah? I think, uh, you know, first of all,
I twittered out last night. I've done four sense games, Doug,
and Marcus Williams is a really good player and a
really good fine and I think as a you know,
he's got to stay the course and he'll have a
fine career, and his teammates and coaches will help them

(16:38):
get over this, and it's gonna be confidence going to
be with him for a while. But you've got to persevere.
But I think the thing I always talked about is
you know, see what you hit? Hit what you see?
Eyes up, head up, wrap up. For two reasons. First
and foremost is the safety as a player. You know,
ask Ryan Shazier who lowered his head in a vulnerable position.

(17:01):
And secondly, it helps you execute in making plays because
you're seeing your actual target as opposed to ducking and
then obviously I don't know what was going through Marcus's mind.
I don't know if anybody does. But the situation, uh
was terrible for the Saints and glorious for the Vikings.
So dependence on what kind of the the river you're

(17:22):
on in uh, you know. I was excited obviously for
Rick and for the Viking fans and all that stuff,
but I certainly feel for for Marcus Williams and he
just gotta bounce back. Yeah, And you feel for Drew
Brees to a guy who's had an historically great career
might have had another shout out of the super Bowl
and one went away from from from from another super Bowl.
But that that is that is of course the sport.

(17:43):
Can you remember a game like that, like you know, look,
you have an incredible football memory, a game like that
where the game was felt over right? It really you
know this, I mean that that thing felt one because
he had case and you didn't feel like he had
the arm strength to get it where you wanted to
get it. You had no time outs, and like I

(18:03):
just thought all along, like it's written in stone, a
Vikings game of that magnitude at home is going to
come down to a field goal, so I thought, well,
maybe they'll get field goal range. Then it starts on
a false start. I mean, there's a bunch of other
stuff I want to get to with you, but can
you remember a playoff game that felt that over only
too only to turn on, you know, on the last play.

(18:25):
Not like that? No, I mean, obviously you have some
of the craziest games in you know, the Immaculate Reception
of course to the Hill America and seventy five Pearson
from Stall back in the Old Metropolis stating in the vikings.
But I think when you look at this one, just
because of the situation, and you know, I still I'm

(18:46):
a little confused on that route that the Saints actually
had somebody jumped Kyle Rudolph six yards off the ball,
which I have no idea why. I mean, that's almost
the situation where you put you know, five guys at
the at the forty yard line, you'rush ring and you
put two over the top and need to send the
forty from back because you knew that's where there where

(19:07):
I thought four baths was good from fifty set eight
you defend that territory and make him in each I
just you know, There's a lot of things that had
to go to Vikings way, even the ball was thrown
if you noticed the ball was thrown where Dix had
to come inside to make the catch. So I do
think if Marcus would have kept his head up and
make contact, he would have tackled him and bounce. No

(19:28):
time outs left, that would have been ball games, So
something to go like that. Everything had to be perfect
in line up right for the Vikings, and it did.
If you take that out of the equation. What went
wrong with the Vikings? They were so dominant in the
first half and they did have a chance that fore
bath field goal, but that was after the Stsister field
go over there of their own, so we'll call we'll

(19:49):
call that a wash. They're up seventeen and nothing did
they get did they get tight? Did did they back
off a little bit defensively? Um? What do you think
took place to allow the things to get back in it? Well,
I mean, I think the Saints couldn't have played any
worse in the first half offensively, right, I mean, then
Drew Brees started to get rolling. I mean he had

(20:10):
two bad picks in the first half, especially the post
that was underthrown again, or Sendo made a nice play,
but Sendejo was beat. I mean that ball should have
been laid out in front and Drew underthrew it. Then
Everson Griffin does the first blocked shot. I don't know
if you've ever seen was the basketball before. But then
Anthony bars. But I just think you know that when

(20:32):
you're playing a good team, to get down seventeen, Uh,
it's really tough to come back from the Saints almost did,
but Drew Brees is certainly capable, and Michael Thomas started
that winning his individual battle outside against jav Rhodes. They
got Camara rolling a little bit, and uh, you know,
to me, the NFL doug even in the regular season,
I mean, seventy of my games that I did share,

(20:54):
they're all coming in the fourth quarter. They're usually fourth
quarter games in three out of four, where this week
were certainly four quarter games. Yeah, the other one obviously
being the Patriots. When I want to get to that,
get to that, um all, let's let's go to who
they're gonna play, The Philadelphia Eagles. They did have an
extra week off, they did fix some things offensively. That said,
the falcon still had first and goal from the nine

(21:16):
chance to win the game. Get back to the NFC
Championship game. What did you think of that play calling
sequence from the Falcons. Well, I mean, let's go to
I mean people are saying, why are you half rolling
Matt Ryan. I think you're trying to get him a
better angle and you're putting the ball in the hands
of Julio Jones who's six three and you know, condunc
anyway you want. And uh, I just thought that you

(21:39):
go for your best players to make the plays in
crunch time, and they didn't execute. It'sought. The coverage was
outstanding on on Julio Jones. To me, it looks like,
I don't know, you think he missed time to jumped
a little bit. I thought he missed time to jumping.
He fell down. He yeah, he fell down and then
he jumped and missed you. He did miss time and
he went through his hands. I'm not sure if you
would have gotten bad and that he caught it. Well,

(22:01):
that's another thing. But I actually kind of I actually
kind of like I kind of like the half role
because like, look, the thing that Matt Ryan does have
is he's really really accurate and you're like you're throwing
to your best player. You know he'll get his feet
down in bounds and catch the foot I mean, like, look,
the greatest play I've seen the Super Bowl ever was
the Julio catch when they were up three last year.
I want something similar to that. Well. I was thinking,

(22:24):
I don't know why basketball with you, but I do
because because I just think I never get to talk basketball.
But I know what little I know about basketball. I
know that you want to create angles for a proper
post injury pass. And to me, that's what they were
trying to do. And the only thing I would fall
Julio is on is that you know, you have to
put yourself in position that if you are going up

(22:46):
for a jump ball that you have to be aware
of where you are on the field so that if
you do catch it, you don't come out out of
bounds or come down out of bounds. Yeah, I mean
it was I didn't like to shovel pass play. I
don't know it was supposed to be if he missed
the slant, But I didn't like the second down call
more than anything. That was the one that that was
the only one I would have taken issue with. I

(23:07):
think that that Stark is an easy target is an
easy target because the play calling has been a little
bit wonky most of the year. Well, you still have it.
I mean, the bottom line is, like and like I said,
the four four quarter games and three out of four,
you know you still have a chance to win it.
You have, But what first and first and nine at
the City? What was it? First and nine of the

(23:27):
first and goal with to nine? Our first and goal?
Whatever was? Yeah, first and goal to nine. You still
have your your chances and you've got a chance to
win it. You're on the road, a chance to go
to the NFC Championship game and you couldn't get it
done and they fall show it again and that's you know,
you can we can say play calling. We gonna say
anything we want. The bottom line is you've got a

(23:48):
chance to win it on the road against a pretty
good team and you don't do it. That's on you,
and it's and I'm sure the Falcons said at themselves
and nobody else, just like yesterday was on the Saints,
it's nobody else now. The only person you can blame
or look at if you win or lose, as you
can say we did it or guess what we fall short,
and that's on us, on nobody else. All right, let's

(24:12):
look at let's look at the a f C. It's
one thing to lose, it's another thing to give up
forty five at home. It's a whole other thing to
give up forty five at home to Blake, to Blake Bortles. Um. Look,
when when Shaisier went down, I felt like that was
that was the He was that important to how they played,
to who they are, and to the matchups they would
face in addition to you know, a bad matchup if

(24:34):
they faced the Patriots, but I didn't know it would
be it would be. And turnovers also led to some
of those points. But give me your give me your
assessment of what went so wrong from the Steeler's perspective, Well,
I just think, uh, to me, they gave their defense,
gave up thirty points to Blake Bortles, right, and and
tell them Smith had to return. But in I don't

(24:59):
know understand this. I could not believe the onside kick.
And the question was, well, we haven't stopped him all day.
And I get it, I think you have like a
five or six percent chance of getting the onside kick.
But if I'm you know, it's easy for me. I
might nay doing a classic Monday morning quarterback thing, but
it's easy for me to say, look, I want Blake

(25:21):
Bortles to beat me for sixty minutes. And this is
not discrediting Blake. It's just, you know, this is what
history's telling me. This is what Blake Bortles players told me.
At times he's very good, at times he's not. And
I can think that Blake Bortles, it's easier for him
to get one first down and put his team in
field goal positioner as opposed to Okay, I have the

(25:42):
two minute warning, I have two time outs left. I
get the ball back. I get it in the hands
of the strength of my team, which Ben robers Burger
and all the Killer Bees. And why would I not
kick it away? I still have no idea why coach
Tomlin decided on sidekick. I just think, to me, that
just was baffling. What did you find that baffling? I

(26:04):
certainly did. I did. I did too, But I've you know, look,
there have been murmurs about There have been plenty of
people who have questioned uh his coaching style for a
long time. Part is the Steelers, you know, the Steelers
are a team that doesn't make coaching changes. I feel
like the Haley thing, Like the Haley thing is never
really worked, and then he broke his pelvis whatever, and

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New Year's Like, I feel like that's the change that's
probably most likely be made. But but somehow, Tomlin is
a guy who gets a lot of rightful criticism I
think in the media, but seems to survive in Pittsburgh.
And I don't like calm for anybody's job, but man,
there there have been some curious instances there, and like, look,
they have some of the best talent in the NFL. Right,

(26:47):
you have a tremendous Hall of Fame quarterback, you gotta
arguably the best running back, You've got the best wide receiver,
and you have a really talented defense. Granted without Chase here,
that's a big loss. Maybe I'm overrating some of the
defense because of some of the name talent on there,
but I would have thought it'd be a little bit better.
Something has been amiss with the Steelers all season. You
mentioned fourth quarter games. Look at every one of their games.

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They played some of the worst teams in the league
down to the wire. It felt like this this team
never really achieved, even if their record would tell you otherwise. Yeah,
you would think that. The other thing that was really
I think a distraction all year and wasn't at the
Castro that basically called his team out today about being
cocky and stupid when we have guys and Levans tweeting

(27:29):
about his contact next year. The night before the game
and we had what Mitchell is safety talking about, We're
gonna win the rematch against New England. You know, I
just don't know. I think Mike. If I were Mike,
I would kind of and I don't know coach. I
know I met coach Tomlin, know him a little bit,
but if I were him, I'd kind of re evaluate, Okay,
what kind of demands are in my placing on my team?

(27:53):
Do I have their complete focus when I need their
complete focus? And I think it's fair to say right
now that he doesn't. And that's probably the first place
I would start in the offseason. Why were the Pittsburgh stealers?
And I, as coach Tomlins, we need to get this
stuff and where we need to be focused on in
the game and our team and stop worrying about each
individual on this team. And I think right now if
I would have to evaluate it, and this is kind

(28:14):
of an easy out, but you know, it's a team
of individuals as oppose of a team of individuals working
as one. It's a team of individuals working as individuals.
Patriots tournament to lose? Is that a Is it a
fair assess? Boy? You boy, you'd hate not to say
that With Tom Brady, don't say in Belichick and you

(28:36):
know they're going to have their both coordinators. It looks
like Jack McDaniels is heading to the Colts and not
Patricia's probably heading to the Lions. But for whatever reason,
you've got Tom Brady. I wouldn't absolutely say it's the
Patriots to lose, but you know, it's just kind of
a crazy year this year, and and you know you're
facing two NFC teams that have really, really good defenses

(28:59):
that I think athletically can match up well against the Patriots.
And again I think the Patriots defense is solid. Does
it scare me? No? Is it good? Yes? And um,
anytime you have Tom Brady, though, boy, it's a hard
guy to bet against, isn't it? Man? It really is? Uh? Listen, man,

(29:20):
that was an incredible That was an incredible I don't
know what it was. Eight hours of football. I can't
imagine as a guy who knows as much about the
game and lives and loves the game. That's just a
great celebration of your sport. We can talk hoops, uh buck.
I hope for the next time. Chris Pieman NFL on
Fox Analysts. They're they're doing really well. Holman's in a
great job. Chris, thanks so much for joining us anytime.

(29:41):
Thanks for having me, all right, So Doug outlip show
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(30:04):
lot going on, a lot going on on a holiday Monday.
What you got for you have those Buckeys cracking the
top twenty five this week, number twenty two and the
new a people. Villanova still number one, though with Virginia
at number two. A lot of basketball today. We'll get
to that in a sect, Doug. But as you mentioned
in the NFL crazy day, Mike Malarkey and the Titans
parting ways, While the NFL Network says that Josh McDaniels,

(30:25):
the Patriots offensive coordinator, is going to be the next
head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. Vikings offensive coordinator Pat
Shermer will reportedly be the next head coach of the
New York Giants. That's according to the NFL Network and
CBS Sports. So the Titans are looking for someone to
maybe take Malarkey's gig now that he's gone. Mike Rabel
of the Houston Texans, their defensive coordinator, expected to interview

(30:46):
for that position, according to the Houston Chronicle for A
will also interviewed for the Colts and Lions jobs. Georgia
Lionment played for the Patriots. Do you know any Patriots
are pot you could have a job if you if you,
if you feel it out me of those checking of
those boxes absolutely. Like the Ma Patricia thing is interesting,
Like I I look, I heard Manatricians the greatest, like dude,

(31:08):
just love him. And they've done a really good job
with a very with with what they've have in New
England and they've gotten better, they've gotten better. But when
you have the twenty ninth ranked defense and the defensive
coordinator and you get a head coaching job like that's
the strangest thing ever, I know, I know, you know,
you think of the pieces that the Texans lost on defense,
and so that's not Mike Rabel's fault. But for what

(31:30):
you know Houston did, there wasn't much to show for
except maybe a couple of clowney place here and there.
By the way Georgia linebacker ro Kuan Smith heading to
the NFL Draft. The basketball we talked about wizards up
on the Bucks sixty fifty eight midway through the third quarter,
while the Sixers have a one eleven one o eight
edge on the Raptors. About thirty five seconds to go,

(31:51):
the Raptors are about scored the Sixers by fifteen and
this fourth quarter to close within three and the MLB
on Foxes Ken Rosenthal says the San Francisco Giants have
acquired pirate tele fielder Andrew McCutcheon in a trade. It
will be finalized once all the physicals are complete and
absolutely help me out with this. So so they traded
Andrew McCutcheon. It finally done. Yes, the going into last
year of his contract, of course to have other outfielders

(32:13):
that to the San Francisco Giants, who are the Giants.
Giants have been after some big fish this year. Remember
they wanted John Carlos Stanton. Stanton would not approve the
trade to the Giants before he was traded to the
New York Yankees. They were They were also connected with
um some Billy Hamilton's and J Bruce talks. J D.
Martinez UM Katie Martine is still out there though, right

(32:34):
so now with McCutcheon, there's questions something that they still
may go maybe go after Lorenzo Kane of the Royals,
um or formerly of the Royals, but Martinez maybe too
high priced for them. So we'll see. They have a
lot of money. Remember McCutcheon still under contract for what's
like a reason why I think he makes fourteen or

(32:54):
fifteen million this year, which look, that's a lot of
money to anybody in the real world, but to a
former All Star, former nd P um that that's that's
not a crazy amount of money in baseball. So maybe
they have the two to spend what people think it's
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(33:58):
actually live from it, said Bank United Arena at the
University of Miami, which apparently does not appear on Uber
like you get like, how does that not? I don't understand.
You can go to the University of Miami, but you
can't go to the arena, Duke Miami. I'll be broadcast
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picks for you A little bit later tonight. I mean
Miami at home home dog to Duke, and Miami is

(34:20):
a talented team and and Jim Larenegez teams have given
Duke fits in the past. Who do you think I like?
We'll get to that later. First, though, let's play a
game bag. This is game time side on the Doug
Gottlieb Show. By what he got for us the game today,

(34:41):
Doug is big deal, little deal, no deal? Alright, big deal,
little deal or no deal. That the Tennessee Titans and
head coach Mike Mularkey parted after two seasons together. That's
a big deal, isn't it. I mean, look, I never
thought Malarkey, you know. And what's interesting is now that
other people interested in him as a play caller and

(35:02):
the play calling. Most people think, uh, set Marcus Mariota
back here in year two. Um, look, I think that
I actually commend the Titans on this, not because I
like people getting fired, but because they weren't, um, they
weren't misled by what happened in the playoffs. Right. This

(35:25):
happens all the time. This happens to me. When I
sat on the set of Selection Sunday for CBS, and
I would say U c l A doesn't belong in
the term. This is like three years ago. You guys
remember that. I know. I mean you say Vans crushed
me because they turn around and they win to n
c A tournament games like, oh, you were so wrong.
And then on the same set, by the way I
picked them to be too s MU. And so the

(35:46):
question was at the time, like, wait, if you win
in the n c A tournament, does that not prove
you belong Like no, it's two actually different arguments. And
what I think the Titans realizes Mike Mlarkey was not
the right fit for Marcus Mariotta and for that team
for the next ten years. He was the right fit,
you know, going back two years ago when they were

(36:08):
napicking complete disaster and all they want to do is
try and protect Mariotta. That was the thing, like, we
get him in the league, we want to protect him.
Will eventually sprinkle in some more offensive talent. So I
actually I think it's a little deal because it had
been previously reported. I think it feels like a bigger
deal because they had that incredible comeback playoff win over

(36:28):
the Kansas City Chiefs, but the reality of it is
they weren't one of the top six teams in the
a f C. They weren't. Okay, Ravens were better. Houston
would have been better. They're not been besieged by injuries.
The Chargers were, in fact better. The Raiders have better talent.
They were just poorly coached as well. Um. I think
Tennessee knows who they are, knows what their endgame is,
and doesn't believe that Mike Malarkey can get them there.

(36:50):
Big deal, a little deal or no deal, Doug, that
Josh McDaniels will go to the Indianapolis Colts to be
their next head coach, according to reports. I think that's
a big deal. I'll tell you why, because anybody who
floated these things about something being wrong with Andrew luck shoulder,
and then Josh McDaniels, who could have the Giants job
could add several jobs, decides I want the Colts job.
He's telling you that he believes Andrew luck Shoulder is

(37:13):
gonna be just fine. Big deal, little deal or no deal.
That TV ratings for the divisional playoffs all across the board,
we're down from recent history. The highest rate of game yesterday,
Doug was Saints Vikings, but that was down from last
year's Cowboys Packers game. All the other games down up
their lowest numbers since two thousand nine. But this is

(37:35):
what we've been trying to tell people is like, look,
is some of it. There's too much football and tee. Yeah,
but it's also the power of brands. It's the same
thing in college sports, right, Cowboys Packers had one had
Aaron Rodgers and Tony Romo, and it's the Cowboys and
the Packers, the Vikings and the Saints. Like how many
I mean, Buyer, you grew up in Wisconsin, how many
Vikings fans can you count on in your that you

(37:57):
know in your life? About ten? Right? Right? And then
you grew up right there a lot more Bears fans,
a lot more Bears fans. Yep, there's a lot of
Bears fans, Steeler fans, Packer fans, Seahawk fans. There's just
not that many. So I think this is more about
brands than anything else. Do I think the NFL has
some problems? Yep, yep. I mean you're you're seeing lots

(38:19):
of NFL guys puff out their chess. Forty six million
people saw that final play Stefon Diggs catch and run
and the Marcus Williams wift tackle. Okay, and so like,
oh I thought people thought football is dead. Football is
not dead, but football is not as powerful as it wants.
It's still the most powerful sports entity, but it's still
it has more flaws than people will give you credit.

(38:39):
But some of it is about branding. Big deal, little
deal or no deal. Doug that reprimands were handed out
to Texas Tech for the court storming done by their
fans on Saturday, while West Virginia's Wesley Harris was reprimanded
for throwing a punch towards a fan when the fans
rushed the court. Um, I would say that I think

(38:59):
it's little deal, little deal because if it was really
a punch, he would have been suspended. If it was
really a big deal, they would have been fined more
than twenty five dollars. There's bad security. It was a
crazy scene. Kids shouldn't have pushed anybody. But like the
end of the day, it's let's just let's just move on.
West Virginia plays Kansas tonight. By the way, I like
West Virginia big. That's a tough road trip, is it

(39:21):
is it is it actually is in town? Or is
it is a tough road trip for West Virginia. They
were in love. It's got to be and then they
returned back home, whereas KU was at home against K State.
Probably should have lost. K State held the ball down
one and uh really terrible last possession. But that's KU
finds a way to win games that maybe they rightfully

(39:43):
should and that's how they have won thirteen league titles
in Rome. Alright, final one big deal, a little deal
or no deal? That Doug Gottlieb was turned forty two
years old today, Yes, a happy birthday. Dog? Is this
is forty two a big deal, a little deal or
no deal? I think it's a little deal. I do.
I don't feel one. I don't feel forty two. One
thing is forty two is a good Mario rivera Jackie

(40:04):
Robinson like has a cool number, isn't it? It's a
cool number. But I appreciate you not only getting the
number of years, right. I wouldn't have wanted you to
get it like off by three or four years in
the other direction, right right, Like I wouldn't you couldn't
have said thirty eight or or just happy birthday, but
instead you had to make sure you pointed out that
I was forty two years So this is game time

(40:27):
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that was good, good hour one. I want to continue

(40:47):
the conversation about the games that you were like, that's
what's kind of that's that's sports, right, Only in sports
can you have a game that's over. Only it's not
over Me's it's There's a lot of reads since we
watched the sports stories, but that's a big one of them.
Playoffs will expose any hidden problems you have. Don't believe me.
I give you the Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll discuss next in

(41:09):
the Doug Gotli Show. What Up Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox
Sports Radio Today, Coming to you from sunny Coral Gables, Florida.
I'm getting a chance to broadcast the radio call of
Miami Duke tonight on Compass Media. Thanks to my bosses
Don Martin's, Scott Shapiro and Michelle salvagere of her compass
for working together on things. Pretty cool. Um anyway, So look,

(41:33):
we're reacting, just like all of you are, to what
we saw. What we saw yesterday. That was great, It
was great, and it was one of the one of
the rare, Like I really really really don't have a
dog in the fight, like Steelers. Yeah, I got a
buddy who's got Steelers tickets? And have they been playing
a home AFC championship game. I would have thought about

(41:54):
making the track. But Steelers Jaguars I found to be fascinating.
Um Vikings. I've been so impressed by their defense. Of course,
who doesn't love the Theealing story, the dig story, or
even the case Keenum story. And then you had Drew
Brees and the Saints and and uh, I mean Alvin
Kamaram and that guy's a star, just a star. But

(42:15):
other than that, like I don't really care who wins,
but I was drawn in by the games that it was.
It was fascinating to see. And we told you last
week that I mean the Buffalo Bills. They lost, They
lost a Blake Bortles lead team and scored three points.
And Rick Dennis, in their offensive coordinator, was out the

(42:36):
next day, They're like, you can't manage any I don't
care how good that Jacksonville defense is. We give you
that many possessions and you can't manage any points, any touchdowns,
You're out. Um. So some of it is a lack
of respect for Blake Bortles that he obviously feels. He
now talks about. I mean he even openly talked about
it last week and talked about it after the game

(42:59):
as well. Out. But some of it is like, look,
this is what the playoffs expose. I mean, case keenum
what the playoffs exposed. He's a good little player, but
he do does not have He's little and does not
have a very strong arm. There's just no way around it.
Um it's Alex Smith. How many times has he gotten exposed?

(43:22):
I mean, the perfect example of of what the playoffs exposes.
Like Tom Brady and Alex Smith actually had an almost
exact same season completion percentage, about the same quarterback rating,
about the same Brady threw a couple more touchdowns, a
couple more interceptions, Alex Smith a little bit more efficient,
and Alex Smith, you know, in the regular season, took

(43:45):
way took more shots down the field. Than he had
at any other point in his career. Same with Tom Brady.
Brady is suddenly throwing the ball downfield. Their stats are
almost but the playoffs expose who you really are, right
the top level of competition. It just different. It ain't
any different than the NBA, where you know, guys will
average game in the NBA. Then you get a playoffs

(44:07):
You're like, Wow, there's a big difference between the best
players and guys that are good. The best players in
their team, the Pittsburgh Steelers that there was something off
about them all season. It was that you can't put
your finger on it. I don't know exactly what it is,
but there's something about this team that ain't that ain't right.

(44:30):
You know that ain't right. And I couldn't figure it out,
but I saw it all year. All right, let's start
with Let's start with Mike Tomlan talking about why he
attempted the onside kick. You know, we want to get
the ball back, you know, Um, we hadn't stopped them
convincingly enough to to take any other approach, in my opinion,

(44:52):
and it was my decision, alright, So my decision. He
did the buck stops here, which I did which I liked. Um,
are we being too music? Are we being two results oriented?
In crushing the on side kick? Like you? Had they
gotten it, he would have acted like you had been
a genius. Remember Sean Payton did the same thing in
a Super Bowl got the ball back on an on

(45:14):
side kick. That was a huge, huge play. Um, are
we being two results oriented? Probably that's just sort of
the nature of how things work. But I think in
that particular situation, you would hope that coming off of
a bye week, the defense wouldn't have struggled that much
with the Jaguars team that isn't necessarily known for their offense,

(45:35):
So at some point in the like like, I understand
that they hadn't stopped them, but you're expecting at some
point you're going to make an adjustment so that you
begin to stop them. Yeah. I just think, you know,
I think you play the percentage game in that you figure,
all right, we're gonna keep working and look some of
it was that game. Brian Baldinger, who joins us UM

(45:58):
on radio it works at the NFL Network, It does
his Baldi's breakdowns. He showed some video as to how
loosely officiated that game was and that part of the
Jaguars are really physical and they were holding, and so
was the so were the Steelers. But it was officiated
a lot more loosely than a lot of NFL games. Um,

(46:18):
all that said, like you can, it's still Blake Bortles.
You still want to play the percentage game and make
Blake Bortles beat us on third and long. And if
he he's beating us on third and long and you
tip your cap to him, I think that's really the
all of this comes down to Blake Bortles, doesn't it.
But Blake Bortles. But we were black Blake Bortles, but

(46:40):
Blake Bortles, Right, So I think did I like the
onside kick? I didn't because generally the identity of the
Steelers is their defense. I told you their defense is
gonna be really different without Ryan Chase. Here. I do
think Blake Bortles played well and that offensive line blocked
well for for the Jaguars. But if it's me, I

(47:02):
still play the percentage game and say, hey, the more
third and longs I can force Bortles into to making
big throws, eventually, it's gonna come back my way. Here's
Tomlin being asked about the possibility of the team was
looking ahead to the Patriots. You feel like your team
was guilty of looking ahead to the base. No, man,
you know this this team whacked us good. Um in October, Man,

(47:23):
were you kidding me? We realized it's a good football team. Uh,
they played better than we did today. Yeah, I'm I'm
kind of I mean, like, I don't think Mike Mitchell
should have stood outside the locker room and and yelled
at the Jaguars. I do think the Jaguars were really,
really ready to play. So that's one of the things.

(47:43):
One of the things about the Steelers though, is like, look,
if you're gonna talk trash, whether it's about Mike Mitchell
talking trash or anybody else talking, you better be ready
to go. And they didn't seem ready to go. They
just didn't. Here's Jalen Ramsey of the Jaguars and the
Steelers looking over there, looking past them. I was kind
of wondering why they were so confident because we stomped
they asked last time, we knew we was gonna do

(48:04):
the same this time. I mean we were confident coming
in the game. Um, So I mean, I can't tell
you why they were so confident. Um, but that went
out the door real quick. I do, like Janalen Ramsey
talking trash, I will point out that in in in
like the same sense of I don't know why they

(48:24):
were confident. He says, we knew we were gonna stop
their ass like like, look, that's that's football, that's any sport.
Any of these guys you think, we think, you think
you're gonna beat the opponent. If not, why are you
actually playing? Why are you actually competing? This is leviyan
Bell went asked if the Steelers came in the weekend
too confident. Was this team a little over confident? Um? No,

(48:47):
I want to think that, you know. I think you know,
you have to come into a game being confident, you know,
And um, I wouldn't necessarily say, you know, over confident.
We didn't look over the Jaguars at all. We know
those guys are like eight right opponent maybe this earlier,
earlier in the year, so we wanted to, you know,
beat those guys, So we definitely didn't you know, we

(49:08):
come in up kind of overlooking those guys. I just think,
you know, they I'll play us again today. You know,
you gotta get those guys credit. They may plays when
they needed to um and we didn't sell um. They
end up being a win. They're getting to win um,
you know, and I think it ends up feeling like
confirmation bias. Right the Patriots for the game, everybody wanted
them to play. Everybody said, I assumed they were gonna

(49:30):
be overlooking the Patriots. They weren't ready to play their down,
you know, down three touchdowns before you can even bat
an eye, and you assume that it's because they overlooked
the opponent. It is possible that Jaguars are just really good, right, Like,
look the Jaguars. Jaguars has been drafting the top ten
of the draft for the last ten years, and they
went out and spent They were one of the five

(49:51):
biggest spenders in free agency over the past two years. Right,
So they drafted and drafted well and they spent money.
They spent money. The only thing they haven't had is
a quarterback. And the quarterback played pretty well yesterday. So
I actually I don't go with the they overlooked him.

(50:12):
I do think something has been amiss with the Steelers,
and everybody knew it, and there's been far too many
opponents that have done to the Steelers what the Jaguars
have done. Cleveland had him down. Indie had him down
every down seventeen nothing to Indie. Indie stinks. Stinks, But
you let the wrong team get a lead on you

(50:34):
that has like and even better talent at some positions
and all of those flaws of the regular season that
you're able to get away with because hey, we got
Antonio Brown, and we got Levian Bell, and we got
Ben Roethlisberger, and we got you know, t J. Watt,
we got all these different dudes. They just make up
for it. It doesn't work that way in the playoffs.

(50:55):
The playoffs expose those weaknesses, expose those wee don't you
know the same thing that the Patriots game. Patriots game
was played like a playoff game, right, and who was ready,
who was efficient? Who knew exactly what they want to do?
At the end of the game the Patriots did, who
didn't the Steelers. It was like a playoff game, and

(51:16):
like a playoff game, they came up short. Former Steeler
D'Angelo Williams joins the show coming next, I'll ask him
what he thinks happens to the Steeler team in the
off season. Plus will give us his dumbest decision of
the weekend. A great weekend in football. Saturday wasn't that good.
Let's just be honest. The Eagles game was interesting and close.

(51:39):
Wasn't a great watch. The Patriot game was not interesting,
was not close. Was not a great watch? You know
there was There were two calls that went to Patriots way.
And then of course there's the uh, the really really
really long one second at the end of the first
half of the Patriots just happens to happen in Foxborough.
But I'm okay with it. It was great that they

(52:00):
were a much better team. They did. Uh, they did
a service for the rest of the league. We didn't
We don't want the Titans to be still be playing
in the playoffs. All right, up next, whatever your New
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I have? I have? Post post football playoff game? Buzz

(53:45):
I just do? I mean? I wouldn't want to be
Marcus Williams today. I wouldn't um and I wouldn't want
to be I think several several members of the coaching
staff at the Pittsburgh Steelers. But man, how good was
this past weekend? So good? So good? Let's welcome in
DeAngelo Williams, of course, a two time Pro bowler from
a running back on the Carolina Panthers, also Pittsburgh Steelers. Uh, de'enzelo.

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Before we get to your thoughts on the Steelers dumbest
decision of the weekend? Who was it? Can we can?
We can we do that after the stealers? Can we
can we talk about the Stealers first? I can get
this up with it behind me, because I'm a little salty.
I'm a little salty about it. Uh, Let's talk about
the Steelers. Um. That would be a great song for

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the offensive coordinator of the Pittsburgh Stellers and Todd Haley. Uh,
because I knew that the Steelers were in trouble when
he opened the game up the same exact way he
opened the game up week five with the no huddle
lady Bill at the wide receiver spot, when obviously the

(54:49):
Jaguars are number one against the past, the number twenty
five or dead bottom of the last in the pack
in terms of against the rug So why not established
the run early and play the run off the past.
And at that point when he did decide to put
Bill back there, they was in a run run situation anyway,
and it was telegraphed. So I'm thinking of myself like, oh,
and then what makes it even worse is is that

(55:12):
the Pittsburgh still has put up forty two points and
they lost by three. I can say this Roan Shazer. Uh.
A lot of people said he wasn't missed. It's because
of his knowledge. It's not because of his knowledge, Ron Shaser,
in my opinion, and I've seen everybody on that defense,

(55:33):
he was the fastest player on that defense, and he
covered up a lot of mistakes that people made with
his speed. When his speed left, that's when that hole
in that defense became a gaping hole. Because he was
he was able to cover things up, and he was
able to get guys on the grass and make up
for the mistakes of other players with just his speed

(55:54):
and speed alone, not this knowledge of the game, but
just this speed. You cannot teach speed international for bal league.
I'm just it's great stuff. No, no, let's listen. I'm
with you. I'm with you as a I'm like, look,
I I said it, D'Angelo when Shazier went down, I said,
there goes their super Bowl. And I think we all

(56:14):
knew that they're Haley has been under under fire from
Big Ben and from others for a long time. Um,
even Mike Tomlin has the onside tick, but the misuse
of what I what feels like the best personnel. Like
I'm not wrong to think Steelers had the best personnel
remaining in the plot, right, I mean and and and

(56:35):
they got beat by a team with a quarterback who
probably doesn't start for twenty five of the other teams
in the league. Like like I'm happy for Blake Morrel's
he brewed a lot of people wrong for a day.
But if he was out, if everybody was a free
agent on the market. I don't. I think twenty five
of the teams at least pass on him. I really
believe that. And that's the case. Okay, So something's wrong,

(56:59):
it's up has been wrong. Is it simply Todd Haley
doesn't know what he's doing, he's misusing pieces or is
there anything else wrong with this team? Well, I don't
know if it's the relationship that Todd and Ben has
that kind of strains the offense. I'm not sure this
is just he says. She say, I'm not. I don't
know what it is. But they have way too much
talent on the offensive side of the ball to do

(57:21):
what we'll have. What happened to them happened to them yesterday.
But I say that in the same breath by saying
they scored forty two points. They scored forty two points.
Doug Like, we're sitting here talking about talent scored forty
two points. So the problem isn't on the offensive side.
It isn't Ty Haley. We need to talk about this defense,

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Like why can't that defense stop anybody? It's the Jaguar.
We know, you know, everybody in other countries know that
they're going to run the football, everything goes through Leonard
for Nette, everything goes through him. The play Actually everything's
set up on here him, So why not neutralize him.
He had three touchdowns and over a hunerey yards rushing

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again yesterday, like, why can't we stop it? Why can't
somebody come up and stop him? You got an all
Pro defensive tackle, you got a defense that was supposed
to be top five in the league. You get rid
of James Hasson and you send him to New England.
And now we sit here on Monday and we're just like, well,
what happened? The defense didn't stop anybody. The offense put

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up for the two points. Bell was doing stuff that
I've never seen Ben ever do. He ran the ball
and was playing and one with the football is if
he was gonna pitch to back to pick up a
first down. He was a dent all in. That was
the first time I've seen being all years do stuff
like that, Like he was all in for this football game.
And you know, I feel so bad for the offensive

(58:47):
side of the ball, because the defensive side of the ball,
if you go all the way back from the start
of it, was the ones that was barking about the Jaguars.
Nobody on offense hid anything outside of Levy on Bill said,
and hey, this is round two. Let's get ready for
round two. Other than him, everybody else's barking. I just
I don't see how you say all that stuff and

(59:08):
then when it's time to play, you show up. And
that's how you show up. Great stuff from Deangel Williams
joining us in the dug outlip show. All right, let's
get to the dumbest decision of the weekend. What was it? Okay,
so I'm at a toss up and and I'm gonna
go against whichever one you don't go with. It was

(59:29):
between Marcus Williams, and I wasn't leaning so much towards him,
but I'm leaning more so on Mike Tomlin. His decision
to kick an onside kick when you knew that they
were gonna run the ball three times in a row
and try to run the clockdown, and then the Stillers
end up scoring at the end of the game, so
that three points, I would I would say, I think

(59:51):
it's I think I don't think Marcus Williams was a decision.
I thought it was. Honestly, it was a lot like
the Shasier thing like, look, defensive dudes don't know how
to tackle anymore, or if they do, they're going I
don't know if they're going for kill shots or whatever.
But but like, look, I grew up playing football before
becoming basketball only, and I remember, get see what you hit, man,

(01:00:13):
get your head up, because you can really hurt yourself.
But also, I mean, like, that's but that's the that's
why so many running backs now jump over guys in
the NFL, because all these dudes have their head down
diving at guy's legs instead of looking up. That's what
caused She's here to get injured. And that's what that
that that's not a decision. The Tomlin deal when everyone
knew Jacksonville was gonna get super tight and run the

(01:00:35):
ball and all you gotta do is stop him. I don't.
I don't get it. Uh, it was, it was, and
it wasn't because of the result. It was because of
the process. I thought, you got a defense, you're at home,
jackson was just gonna try and run out the clock.
What are you doing? I didn't. I didn't get it right.
But let's go back to Marcus Williams. I say that

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it was a decision from a football's perspective, not nothing
to gets your perspective, because in that situation, this if
I'm a safety and I'm covering Stefan did or from
a corner or from a dB at all, the one
thing that they told him in his head, do not
do not whatever you do, do not pass and inferience

(01:01:17):
this guy. Do not do that because now not only
they get the ball where it is, but the game
can't end on the penalty, so they get one more snapper,
we could kick it. So this is going through his head.
Not only is this going through his head. As you
could see, he was trying to tackle low so he
didn't know if he called it or not. So it
was like he was in the middle of a tackle
and trying to dodge him at the same time because

(01:01:38):
he didn't think he caught the ball. So if you
look at the place, you get all that in one player.
You're just like, they shouldn't have told that guy not
the pass interferience to guy, because had he passed interference
to guy, we might have a different conversation right now.
Did you ever see I don't know if you have
many Charger games you watch this year, but Gus Bradley
would have the Chargers do this deal to where they

(01:01:58):
would put like on a play like that on a
third in California, right that he would put seven dudes.
He would put seven dudes back twenty yards from the
line of scrimmage. And the one thing that jumps out
about that one with UH is you know they're covering
Kyle Rudolph like six yards past the line of scrimmage
and they're rushing I think they're rushing four on the play. Like,

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I don't understand why they There wasn't you have two safeties?
Why what? Why wasn't there more help there than you
know them? Then was allocated based upon the defensive call. Well,
it's tough because of where the ball was on the field,
them having what was an eight to twelve seconds, them
being able to run a play, get out of bounds
and kick the field goal. Because if I'm not if

(01:02:41):
I'm not mistaken, that field goal kicker was pretty good.
So then he kicked the fifty three yarders. So maybe
you get to like a fifty five yard or but
even that with yards is what forty five plus seven
a minus seven, right, So you gotta get you gotta
get mid thirty like thirty eight yard line to get there,
like that's still twenty yards down the field. I don't

(01:03:03):
know down the field again, but you're telling these guys
in the huddle, whatever you do, don't pass an afferience
to guy. Don't pass in the seriously, guy. It's just
like in a four minute drill. The thing that they
screamed us is make sure you hold onto the ball.
Make sure on contact you get down with the ball.
You get down with the ball, and you get up
with the ball. You get down with the ball and

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you get up with the ball. Nobody else. Just hold
onto the ball. They don't care about yards, they care
about clock management. And it was the same thing, I
guarantee you. In the huddle and that defense, they were saying,
don't pass an afferience that god because he was in
the middle of a tackle and avoiding the guy because
he couldn't see him. But that tackling. You know who
made that tackling famous. Dean Sanders. He made that tackling famous.

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He never tackled with his head up. He always die
in a guy's feet. I mean him and Tony Romo
even had it out about that. He made that tackling famous. Like,
you know, who's the worst. They're doing that and it's
a linebacker place for the end the city. Teeze. I'll
give you another hint. I don't know fifty six is

(01:04:10):
I don't. I don't do numbers. I know Derrick Johnson.
Who else? That's it? Okay, I said Derrick Johnson. Yeah,
I was in my rhythm. I was in my rhythm.
But yeah, another another another speed guy. I look, I
think it's a problem around the league, like all these
all these tight ends and running backs that hurdle guys.

(01:04:31):
The only reason they can hurd of him is dude.
That is how everybody tackles. They leave with their helmet
and they dive at guy's legs. That's what they did.
I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you something that's insane. So
that same tackle that Royan Shayzer had in that Bengals
game when he got hurt was the exact same was

(01:04:54):
the exact same play and the exact same hit that
he had on the running back for the s Sinnati
being was in the playoff game when he fumbled, right,
It was the exist that's probably if you hit the ball,
if you hit the ball with your helmet, the ball
comes out every time. Right, It's it's a huge risk
reward thing. Yes, yes, it's rich reward and coaches in

(01:05:15):
my opinion, and I tell I tell players this all
the time, and I've been screaming this for the last
six or seven years. When it comes to coaches, it's
easy to be tough with another man's body. Hey, get
in there and make that hit, or get in there
and blow that play up, like oh thank you. Yeah,
I could go in there and I could do it.
But at the same time, you know, the coaches are

(01:05:37):
not absorbing any of that physical uh altercation that is
going on in there, So it's easy to be tough
with another man's body. Um, Philly got any shot against Minnesota.
I mean the defense is really good, but and and
Folds was better. But as much as playing at home
and having that much time off, Atlanta still had first
and goal to nine and a chance to win it.

(01:05:59):
With your thoughts on Philly Minnesota, man, I'm gonna I'm
gonna be honest with you, and and Minnesota fans can
be piste off of me. Philadelphia fans can be piste
off of me. But in my opinion, the best two
defenses in the National Football League is the Minnesota Vikings
and the Philadelphia Eagles. The worst quarterbacks in the National

(01:06:20):
Football League, in my opinion is case Keenum and Damn
Nick Foles. I have known about the worst in the
whole league due I am telling you right now, I
have no This game might be three z ro, this
game might be six zero, It might be nine zero
or three nine like this is gonna be one of

(01:06:40):
the worst NFC Championship games that we've probably ever seen.
Can Jacksonville beat New England in New England? Yes, if
Jacksonville could beat the Pittsburgh Stillers in Pittsburgh, I'm gonna
say Jacksonville can beat the Minnow England. But will they know?

(01:07:01):
I mean, you got to think about Here's here's the
thing though. Here's the thing though. Okay, the way to
beat Brady is the pressure room. Get him off his spot, right.
The Jaguars they rushed for they don't They're not a
pressure defense. Can they Can they get to them with four?
I don't know everything with watching New England, man, it's

(01:07:24):
all about timing with them. It is all about time.
And this is a good part about it. The New
England offense and the Jaguars defense match well together. They
can cancel each other out. The question mark is is
can the Jaguars move the ball on New England's defense?
That's the question, because I mean, can they stop the run?

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Can New England stop the run? I mean, we're they
ranking defensively at stop and run as opposed to stop
in the past, and we've known that they can get
chopped up and cut up and get zoo knocked up
in terms of running and passing the ball against that
New England defense. So I think it's gonna come down
to Canada Jaguars moved the ball on the New England's defense, Well,

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they know they scrimmaged each other earlier in the year. Uh,
and you know before the season started, and there was
talk then that that that that was one of the
things that Jackson was like, Oh, we can play with
these guys, we can beat these guys. We can play
with anybody. So, uh, we're gonna We're gonna find out.
I can tell you this much though. The Jackonsville Jaguars

(01:08:29):
don't have a damn linebacker that can cover that that
tied end and Rob grun Cowcy, So they're gonna have
to go middle the entire game. Nobody does. By the way,
New England UH second worson league and UH yards per
attempt against the run at thirty one in the NFL.
So there you go. That's the one only D'Angelo Williams,
two time pro bowler giving us the worst decision of

(01:08:52):
the week. You give us a decision again, but we
gotta both end up agreeing on it. But some great backgrounds,
some great stuff, D'Angelo, thanks so much for joinas man.
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championship game, that is not going to be one for
the ages the Yeah. I think it's interesting. I will
say this for all the Patriot haters out there when
you're you know, may not like this weekend of football.
What better way to have the Patriots losing a World

(01:09:35):
series than or a Super Bowl too, then maybe have
like a team play at home, so at least if
you're a Patriots hater, you could be like, Okay, well,
I'll cheer for the Vikings against the Eagles because I
don't like the Patriots and I'd rather have the Vikings
have a home game. But it'll be a tough or
you or you want them to lose to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Yeah.
Like and and by the way, Tom Coughlin, who's you know,

(01:09:57):
like he's getting a lot more credit I think than
he might rightfully deserve. He's more than a figurehead, but
he's less than a coach anyway. The Tom Coughlin, you know, authorized,
I mean authorized, authored two of the historic upsets in
the Super Bowl over the same over the same ending
the Patriotsam Yeah, could happen this weekend. We'll see in Foxborough.

(01:10:20):
We'll see a change in Foxborough for sure, because the
Indianapolis Colts are reportedly set to higher Josh McDaniels as
their new head coach. McDaniels the offensive coordinator with the Patriots.
Reports yesterday surfaced that Matt Patricia, the defensive coordinator, was
going to take the Lion's job. Now, multiple reports say
that Vikings offensive coordinator Pat Shermer is gonna be the
next head coach of the New York Giants. While Mike
Mularkey and the Tennessee Titans have parted ways after two

(01:10:42):
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(01:11:04):
victory at the half bowls up on the heat. Yes, Doug,
did did you see what happened at the end of
that Sixers game? Yeah, Kyle Lowry and Ben Simmons getting
the double ejection? Is that where you're talking about? Yeah, no,
on that they get the double ejection, but uh, Ben
Simmons is like meet me outside. Kyle Lowry was like okay,

(01:11:24):
and Kyle like blue past everybody and started getting ready
to go, Like I want to know if they went
outside and Duke to that there there was There was
one report that I said that there may have been
an altercation in the in the but in the tunnel,
But I haven't seen anything confirming that. UM can confirm this.
Ken Rosenthal saying the Giants San Francisco Giants have acquired

(01:11:46):
Pirates outfielder Andrew mccutch impending of physical By the way,
those heat going for their uh eighth straight wind, but
they trail again at halftime to the Bulls. That's the latest, Doug.
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thing in the Super Bowl is super interesting, not just
because we haven't had a true one. Although people forget
the Niners played in pala Alta. Wasn't their home stadium,
but it was you know, um, it's actually closer where
they played now when Joe Montana beat Dan Marino. The
one Super Bowl Da Marino was in that was in
that was at Stanford's stadium. Uh, that was a long
time ago before it was completely redone reconfigured Um, what

(01:12:38):
do you say. They're almost at the Rose Bowl for
Super Bowl four two. That was the same kind of thing,
but that Rose Bowl wasn't their home stadium stadium. It's
kind of like the Palo Alto, like close. It was
kind of close enough, but you're right, not exactly at
their home stadium, right, this would be the home stadium.
There's a bunch of like this would be I think,
I mean great for for second for ticket sales, I

(01:13:01):
mean it would be unbelievable. The unbelievable environment. Um would
be bad, I think for hotel rooms, but I don't
think it would be as bad as people think. Like,
it's not gonna be a great super Bowl for hotel
rooms anyway, just because there's a lot of people like
so cold, and I like and look the Twin Cities
that you know they got the skywalks and the tunnels
and stuff so you never have to go outside. Um,

(01:13:25):
but it you know, we're gonna be broadcasting from all
of America, which is a is a good car ride
away from where we're staying. So you know, you got
a car, you gotta be heated up. Somebody gotta go
out and do the do the dirty work. Of heating
up the car or you gotta uber on the way
over there. Anyway, I don't think it's gonna be a
great year for for hotels anyway. So it's not gonna
be a great year for hotels might as well, but

(01:13:47):
will be a great environment inside the super Bowl is
kind of a corporate event, like I think would be amazing,
and that stadium is supposed to be incredible, like I've had.
There's not one person that's not got the difference in
that stadium. And like the Meadowlands or what it's called
now MetLife or whatever is when MetLife open, nobody was
like this is the best, it's the newest, it's the

(01:14:09):
best in the business. They're like, it's okay, it's better
than the dump that we used to play in, but
it's gonna be a dump pretty soon, right And like
you know, twenty years whereas the where the Vikings play,
it's insane. It looks insane. I heard it's even even
better once you get inside. They absolutely the architecture did
that one on It was a k or whatever, absolutely

(01:14:29):
crushed crushed it. So we'll see. I've I've heard that
that's the bar that the L A L. A dome
stadium that's underneath the runway where the chargers and rams
are gonna play. I've heard that's the bar that like,
that's the bar that we're trying to get to. And
of course then you got the Vegas Stadium as well
that I don't even know if they have the plans

(01:14:50):
for that one, let alone the money for it. Anyway,
super super super interesting stuff. Uh boy, we got a
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(01:15:12):
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(01:15:33):
Channel x M A E three, I'm not trying to
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We'll get his thoughts on the Eagles team he used

(01:15:55):
to play, four or three time All Pro. And then
Michael Lombardi will join the show as well. We'll ask
him about the malark Key deal. Right like man, that
Larky deal. He only there two years. They win a
playoff game and boom, he's out out of a job.
Um ton to get to but two really really good
guests I meantime every day at this time, we like
to bring back something heard in the last twenty four

(01:16:15):
hours on Fox Sports Radio. We call it say all right,
uh let's see here. Colin Cowherd had this kind of
really really interesting thought. I thought, um on, Tom Coughlin,
there's a guy in the NFL in every decade that
is the most copied and duplicated and mimicked and respected

(01:16:39):
in the fifties, it was Paul Brown. In the sixties
it was Vince Lombardi. Then in the eighties it's Bill Walsh.
His coaching trees unbelievable. And then in the nineties you
can argue it was a lot of Bill Parcels and
his personnel acumen. Jimmy Johnson also gets a plug because
Jimmy Johnson changed the culture of trades. Nobody in the

(01:16:59):
NFL traded players until Jimmy Johnson. And then in two
thousand on it's been Belichick, who who can do the cap.
Who's a defensive guy, but he's a great mentor, he
knows offense details, red zone. Every decade there's been a guy. Okay,
the next person I'm gonna mention is not going to
be mentioned, but should be. It's Tom Coughlin. Tom Coughlin

(01:17:21):
coaches Boston College. They beat number one, notre name. He
leaves Boston College has never been the same. He goes
to expansion Jacksonville. They make the playoffs four times. I
mean they were like nine and seven, eleven and five,
eleven and five, fourteen and two. He leaves Jacksonville. Eventually
they unravel. He goes to that at the time uh,
the New York Giants, who were a little bit of

(01:17:43):
a mess. And over time he takes Eli Manning career
completion guy and wins two Super Bowls, beats Belichick and
beats Brady as an underdog both times. Then he leaves
the Giants two years later they're the most juvenile old
team in the NFL. He goes to Jacksonville, which has
had talent for three years but can't get it right,

(01:18:05):
and now they are in the a f C Championship.
Let me tell you something, Tom Coughlin is every bit Belichick.
He just didn't have Brady um In fairness, actually, Boston
College when they had Matt Ryan was the top five
team as well. But the point is taken. Look, I

(01:18:26):
don't know. My My thing on Coughlin is with the Giants,
he went five years where didn't make the playoffs, right,
I mean plas like once his last five years when
he was there, and they fired the offensivecording, the fire
the defense coordin and finally they hired they fired Tom Coughlin. Like. Look,
at some point the and a little bit of his
bs with the I'm a you know, I'm a disciplinarian,

(01:18:48):
like he was a disciplinarian to the point where his
team led the league in penalties two of those last
five years, so maybe the discipline wears off. I do
think that he was a stabilizing force for the Xville Jaguars,
but I also think you'd getting a lot of credit,
which uh it might not actually be all that well deserved, right, Like,

(01:19:10):
Tom Coughlin is a good coach. He coached two Super
Bowl winning teams. They took down the New England Patriots
as sizeable underdogs, including the best Patriot team that Brady
and Belichick have ever had. They were eighteen and no
at the time. Okay, but those were nine and ten
win playoff teams for the Giants. If you're really, really
that good, you're not gonna be out of the playoffs,

(01:19:31):
you know, four out of five years, four to five
last years, and you're gonna have more thirteen fourteen win teams,
aren't you, if you're that profound a decision maker, a coach,
aiden a kingmaker, if you will. So I'm not saying
I don't like Coughlin. I'm saying, whoa, whoa whoa. Jacksonville
had talent, Cofflin was one of the missing pieces and

(01:19:54):
also helped. Like, there's other factors that were not considering.
Coincided with Houston still not having a quarterback because Deshaun
Watson got hurt, right, They didn't start him out of
the shoot, they started off struggling, they played him, he
started a lot of the league and then he was hurt.
In the Indianapolis Colts haven't had Andrew luck for the
last year and a half. That's their division. The Titans

(01:20:16):
were in complete rebuild mode with a young quarterback, and um,
you know they're five and one against their division. That's
how they got it rolling. And yeah, they beat the
Steelers twice and they live up the Steelers defense yesterday.
I don't. I mean, look, Doug Moron doesn't get any
credit none. The Doug Brone thing didn't work in Buffalo,

(01:20:37):
and it's worked exceedingly well now in Jacksonville. Some of
that is Coughlin, A lot of that is personnel that
was already there. I mean, you you draft well for ten,
you draft in the top ten of the draft for
ten twelve straight years. Eventually, you know it's just a
hit rate. You can't have all justin Blackman's right, there's
gonna be some. There's gonna be some guys that finally

(01:20:59):
come through for you, and between you know, last year's
draft and Jalen Ramsey and Miles Jack this year's draft,
and then spending money in free agency. I think Coughlin
has brought a nice uh sensibility to them. He brings
credibility to them. He brings almost a confidence in his
structure that that breeds not arrogance. Confidence. Hey, we are

(01:21:23):
a legit, big time pro sports franchise, but let's also
not kid ourselves. He ain't coaching, he ain't adjusting, He's
simply suggesting. That's the job that Tom Coughlin is is
uh is doing in Jacksonville. Super Bowl champion Seth Joiners
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him what what went wrong? I mean, obviously there's Marcus
Williams went wrong and is he with me? You know?

(01:22:10):
I thought that final play in the Saints Vikings game.
We'll talk about this upcoming. Next is the epitome of
a huge problem with all sports. All sports. Marcus Williams
has his head down and doesn't see what he hits,
and he hit nothing. He had an airball, right set Joiners.

(01:22:31):
Next in the Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. What up?
It's Dug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio Today, broadcasting live
from the University of Miami as they get ready to
take on Oh the Dukies, oh the d Blue Devils.
I will be broadcasting on Cumpass Radio Media Networks at
the top of next hour so or two hours, right, yeah,

(01:22:54):
So it's five o'clock on the east, it's two o'clock
on the way. It is two o'clock in the west coast.
Right music. I'm sorry, my um, quite the long weekend
watching sports and losing track of time zones or whatever. Alright,
uh so six o'clock eastern, I'll have a little bit
of a break rest of it, and then seven o'clock
eastern that game will tip off. You'll be able to

(01:23:16):
hear it on many of these Fox sports radio affiliates.
Let's some let's get into it. I mean, look, everybody's
still kind of shell shocked, right, Like not yeah, I
get shell shocked, right. You're just sitting around there going like,
I still can't believe that the Vikings won that game.
Seth Joyner is a Super Bowl champions analyst for NBC

(01:23:37):
Sports Philly, Fox Sports one point five The Fanatic. Seth,
I want to get to the Eagles and their win
after the week off against the Falcons and how they
match up against the Vikings this week. But um, where
were you watching the game? First? Last night? I had
to do a post playoff deal for NBC Sports Philly

(01:24:01):
last night, so I was actually sitting in the studio
watching the end of that game and completely blown away.
I've never seen anything like that and all my things
of football, man, it was unreal. Okay, so I'll give
you my my I'm sitting there with my kids. I
have three kids, and I'm kind of explaining to them,
you know, okay, you got to get to here to

(01:24:21):
kick the field goal, and you have one time out left,
and then the first plays a false start, and how
that sets them back and why won't they throw the
ball to the middle field, here's why they won't do it.
Like you're kind of explaining things too, and then you're
also setting up Ay, Minnesota has been here before where
they've missed field goals in big events. You do you
think there's there's gonna be a field goal attempt for
the Vikings. Um, but I mean, I'll admit it. I

(01:24:44):
try and teach my kids that games are never over.
But I think we all thought it was over. You
you want a super Bowl, you've played that, like your
whole life's been around football. Did you feel like it
was over falling intent and purpose? That game was over?
It was a rap. I mean once once the middle
than the SAT score and there was like twenty something
seconds left on the clock. It's like there's nowhere in

(01:25:06):
the world that the Minnesota Vikings can come back and
win this football game. Just know what you know? So,
I mean, when they pull off what they pull off,
and you know, I feel just feel trouble for this kid.
It's Williams kids. But when they pull off what they
pull off, you know, you're you're tying to stick correct.
I mean, if there's ever aquip if there's ever a

(01:25:27):
lesson that you can show young people about resiliency and
never giving up, you know, and until the clock says
zero zero zero across the board, no matter what sport
it is. That is a glaring example of you know
what you show young people when you're talking about you know,
you played to the end? Um, isn't Also, though, kind
of part of the issue that I think a lot

(01:25:49):
of former football players have with modern day football is
the lack of fundamentals and tackling. Right, Like, here's Marcut
Swilliams a good player, but like how many times we've
seen guys put their head down to not see what
they hit and J's here got hurt because of it,
and he whips on the biggest tackle of the year
because of it. Like that's that's tackling one on one,
isn't it? Well, it is tackling one on one. But

(01:26:11):
you know one of the things that I did because
I went back and I you know, I got the clip.
I looked at the clip and I watched it in
slow motion. Um, And when you begin to look at
it in slow motion, it gives you an idea of
you know, why he made to play the way he
made it, and why it was such an egregious mistake.
You know, when you look at in slow motion, that

(01:26:31):
ball is thrown really high, and when it's thrown high
that way, um the defensive back, you know, Marcus Williams,
he understands that he's early and because he's there early,
it's closed to make the tackle. He's gonna get flag
for a personal for a p I if he gets
played flight for a p I and there's no time

(01:26:51):
left on the on the clock, very at least in
field goal range, and now they've got an opportunity to
win the game. So in the midst of you know,
probably relieve thinking that you know, the ball was overthrown.
You know, he goes to make the tackle, shop the
guy's legs out from under and just decided to avoid
him off together because you know, he doesn't want to

(01:27:13):
commit the p I. Mrs him, takes out his own
takes out crawl, he takes out his own teammate and
here here he is running off. You know, he's off
to the race. There a lot of people looking at
because most people film over and over and over again.
Yesterday it was like, my goodness, you know, he kind
of coward at the point of contact. But the more

(01:27:33):
and more I looked at it, the more and more
I realized that he got to a point where he
understood that he was earlier. If he makes that tackle
that he's and he's coming so hard. If he makes
that tackle, it's a it's a p I and they're
in field goal range right now, you know. So, I
mean I feel bad for the kid because you know,
there's a series of things that transpired that let up.

(01:27:55):
You know that this thing turning out the way that
it did. But you know, hey, that's sometimes, man. I mean,
that's that I looked at everybody else in the in
the studio last night that is there any better? Is there?
Is there any doubt in anybody's minds why football is
the greatest sport in the world When you see what's
just transpired right there on the biggest stage, at the
biggest time of the year for this football team. Wow. Yeah,

(01:28:17):
let's uh, let's let's get to the Philadelphia Eagles. Uh
what would when when you did your breakdown of their
win against the Falcons? What did they change offensively to
allow Folds to be more effective? Well? I think you know,
Dr Peterson, you know, ran the football for one the
that that that was the main thing. Everyone all year

(01:28:39):
has been crying for him to run the ball more,
be more balanced. From my offensive perspective, that helps the
quarterback no matter who the quarterback is, whether it's Carson
Wentz or or Nick Foles. The other thing that he
did is he you looked at the offense and came
to the realization that Carson Wentz possessed a different skills
set than Nick Foles. Okay, so let's let's let's go

(01:29:00):
back when Nick Foles, you know, and I believed in
two thousand thirteen with Nick Foles through for twenty seven
touchdowns and and two interceptions, and let's try to drop
and that let's see if we can't, you know, create
some offense based off of what he does well. Well,
the r PO came up big time, you know, in
that film, and they realized that, hey, we can create

(01:29:21):
and pass the opportunities and some running opportunities. Offer these
run pass options, and Nick did this very well. He
operated at as the shotgun extremely well. And that's what
they implemented, especially in the second half. I mean, we
we kind of hung in. There was a kind of
a field out period, but by the time we got
into the second half, he realized that you know this
run pass options think that you know, he could act like,

(01:29:43):
we're gonna run the ball, We're gonna read the linebacker,
the linebacker stays in there the hey, you know, we
the spot in the vacated areas of the zone, or
we're gonna go outside and take advantage of of the
of the slant on the outside because the corners playing
outside technique. Um, he found something that worked for Nick Foles,
but he also put Nick Foles in position where Nick

(01:30:04):
could take advantage what was offered. Do you take advantage
of what's there, you know, take with the defense is
given you and you try to you know, all down
the field. And when you look at i mean they
had three different ms redouble digit drives. They had a
monumental time in the second half of that game, you know,
and in order for Nick to be successful, that's to do.

(01:30:27):
Now the other end of the spectrum, you know, defensive,
we played lights out. You know, Jim Schwartz called a
great game, and you know, when he needed to bring pressure,
we bought pressure. You know, Julio Jones had a big
day number wise, but the most important thing was that
we kept him out of the end zones and we
limited no big flood. That's always a set. Joiner of

(01:30:48):
course works for Night seven point five in Philadelphia plus
that NBC Philadelphia, and you see him on Fox Sports one.
He's a Super Bowl champion, three time out pro. He
joined us in the Doug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. Right, So,
how do the how do the uh the Eagles match
up with the Vikings? I mean, on paper, looks like
two great defenses. But you and I know styles make

(01:31:08):
the fight. How these styles match up? Well, the styles
definitely do make them make the fight. Uh. You know,
the offense is going to be challenged again because you know,
you're you're playing against you know, great cornerbacks. You know,
not that our quarterbacks aren't good. What you're talking about.
You know, a defense has been number one across the
board all year long. Um, you know we're gonna have

(01:31:29):
to run the ball in similar fashion, uh, trying to
shorten the game. Um, last week there was only nine
possessions between the two teams. On average, East team East
team average is about twelve possessions a game. That's what
it has looked like. You know, we've got to possess
the ball. We've got to be good on third down
UM offensively, and we got to play the field position game.

(01:31:50):
If we're not converting and we're not you know, moving
the ball, we've at least got to you know, put
Minnesota in in a position where they've got to drive
the ball ninety yards every possession rather than losing the
field position game. UM. And as far as defensively, you know,
I think this this kind of game, as far as
their offense, you know, falls right into our last the

(01:32:11):
strength of our football team, our defensive line. And you know,
they run the ball more than any belt than anybody
else in the league, but they they're not as efficient
running the ball as most teams are in the league.
So they do it in order to keep balance and
keep the situation where kse keenom just like Nick Foles.
You don't want to put him in a situation where
he's got to throw the ball forty times in the game.

(01:32:33):
You're you're asking for trouble. You then, you know, you
saw Case Kingdom last night start to crack in the
second half. You know, they completely the runaway. They put
him in a situation where you know, Drew Brees is
putting pressure on that offense to score points. And the
more he threw the ball, the more, you know, the
past rush started coming, the more the passimn started coming.

(01:32:55):
He started throwing some balls up throughout that game that
that could have really flipped that game on its head.
But you know, I think we match up well against
and I think we were a mirror image of each
other from an offensive and the defensive you know standpoint.
You know, obviously they they're more explosive down the field
with their wide receivers. I think we're more of a
possession offense, you know, than we are an explosive offense.

(01:33:19):
But I think they both both teams have have great defenses.
There's gonna be another defensive baut and I don't think
the game would be a really high scoring game. And
what I'm really hoping for is that the weather will
will be about you know, five degrees come game time
next week. Yeah, they feel like real football weather and
real football stadium out and open air. And we'll see

(01:33:40):
how that changes that. That speed of the Vikings team,
which of course thrives playing indoors seth great stuff, man,
amazing experience talking to football guys about seeing something they've
never seen. Before and havn't been around, lived, lived in
and out of this this sport their entire life. Thanks
so much for joining us, pleasure man, Thanks for me
on alright. Pleasures all mine as conditions on the field change.

(01:34:04):
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former NFL GM Michael Lombardi joins the show. I want
to get his thoughts on the Steelers. I want to
get his thoughts on that last play, and then uh,
I want to get his thoughts on the Mike Malarkey situation,

(01:34:26):
all these coaching moves. He knows all the workings of
what's going on in the National Football League. He joins us.
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got Live show Fox Sports Radio. He's got a new

(01:34:46):
book out called Football Done Right. How the best NFL
coaches breed success. He's Michael Lombardi, former general manager in
the National Football You worked for the Ringer. You gotta
check out his podcast. It is so good. GM Street
is so good. Uh, and he joins us, um, let's
let's let's start with with the last play of the
Vikings game against the against the Saints. Michael, you spent

(01:35:10):
your entire professional life inside the National Football League. Have
you ever seen a game in like that? You know,
you got to go back to the Baltimore Denver game
where Denver throws that pass up in the air and
flackle on a cold, cold day in Denver, you know,
ties the game and sends the game at overtime, and
you know, I mean, it's just one of those unfortunate
things that happened, and you know it's it's really not

(01:35:32):
you know, people said he should have rushed three, should
have rushed for you know, look, I thought the kid
was just trying to make sure he didn't get a
pass interference call or illegal contact on the player, and uh,
you know, he ended up ducking his head and unfortunately
missed the tackle. And you know, Minnesota, which fought hard
in that game, you know, had opportunities to really put

(01:35:52):
the game away, never could ended up winning. People could
say maybe they deserve to win. I mean, I think
it was a hard fought win for for the for
the Vikings. Um, where are either gonna have case Keenum
or Nick Foles as a starting quarterback in the National
Football League? Now, look this, there's a little bit, there's
there's a lot of timing and luck that's gone with it, right,
I mean Aaron Rodgers hurt. Uh, Tony Romo retires, Uh,

(01:36:16):
maybe maybe a bit before his his run was actually over.
Of course, the Giants just besieged by injuries and mired
in dysfunction like that. There's some other things kind of
at play here. Uh, but does it You know the
NFL is all about trends, right, Is there gonna be
a trend working away from any of these franchise quarterbacks
if you if you can build an entire team around somebody,

(01:36:39):
you know, I don't see it. Look. Look, I think
really the common thread here is the fact that, you know,
the Vikings defense is really good, the Eagles defense is
really good, and Jacksonvill's defense has been really good. So
I think defensively this is where we are. I think
the league on a whole has been affected by those injuries,
and I think it's helped some T teams that especially

(01:37:01):
at Jacksonville, which doesn't have to face Andrew Luck this year,
you know, and they can win the South and get
a home field playoff game. I think Minnesota without Brett
Fa without Aaron Rodgers in that division certainly has helped,
you know. And then when you look at it in Philadelphia,
I mean, the whole East was really kind of bad,
and Philly benefited from Carson Wentz having an incredible season,

(01:37:24):
and they're here because of wins, and they're here because
of their defense, and they won one game because of
their defense, really not because that Nick Foles was great.
Nick Foles just did a good job. I think their
defense was great. Michael Lombardi joining us in the Doug
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sport Trail. Let's get to
the Steelers. The Steelers are interesting because obviously there's there's uh,

(01:37:47):
there's some stuff going on with their offense, with all
their weaponry, and yet some of the slow starts that
they got off of all year really and Big Ben
has been an outspoken critic at times of Todd Haley.
But but the defense also was kind of getting destroyed.
How much of it is not having shas ear and
a bad matchup. How much of it is the offense?

(01:38:08):
How much is it just the general dysfunction within a
very talented stealer team. Well, look, I don't know if
they're talented on defense. When you give up forty five
points to Blake Bortles and the Jacksonal Jaguars, you can't
call yourself a talented defense. I mean, they never had
a three and out in the game, They never got
control of the game. Now, Ryan shaz Ere wasn't on
the field, but that game wasn't a Ryan Shazier game.

(01:38:28):
That wasn't a space game. That was a downhill power
run game. And Blake Bortles through the ball and made
enough plays. I think that the Steelers have been looking
over and wondering about when they were going to play
the Patriots and instead of worrying about handling their business
at home. Offensively, you score forty two points in a
playoff game, you should win. However, you know they mismanaged
the game. The fourth down calls. All these games playoff time, Doug,

(01:38:50):
really come down to a certain amount of third and
shorts or fourth and shorts that you prepared for Atlanta's
going home because they weren't prepared to run the right
fourth and two play. Pittsburgh's going home because they didn't
have the right fourth in one play twice and it
costs them. And I think when you break down these games,
you can give credit to one area, one area another,

(01:39:11):
But Pittsburgh's red zone defense. They allowed the Jacksonville Jaguars
to be five for five in the red zone five
for five. You don't win games in the playoffs when
you can't play red zone defense. And the Steelers have
struggled to play red zone defense. So we talk talent,
but they don't back it up, and I think that's
the problem. Offensively, are they fund to watch? Sure, they're

(01:39:32):
like the Golden State Warriors. They can run up and
down the field. They look great. However, that being said,
you gotta stop somebody and you gotta get control of
the game. That's something they never did against Jacksonville. Great
stuff from Michael Lombardi, GM Street is the podcast. Of course,
gots a new book out, will pump it again when
we get a chance. He joins the Doug Otlip Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, so what do

(01:39:53):
you think changes with the Steelers? Well, I think the
Steelers have to look. They have to figure are out
a way to where they can play some kind of defense.
And I think Mike Tomlin has to take some some
of this too, because this game management was atrocious down
the stretch, you know, whinning on side kick, when to
call time out, that whole thing. I think it was bad.
Their play calling, place selection, how they managed the game,

(01:40:15):
the style of way they played. I think the Steelers
have to take a long look at who they are
and what they need to become. And look, Ben's gonna
sit there and says he's coming back for two thousand
and eighteen. Can Ben be still an effective player? Will
Ben run the place? I mean, there's always the conversation
that goes on in Pittsburgh, Well, we wanted to run
the ball, Ben checked out of it. Somebody needs to
get control of Ben and understand that this is what

(01:40:36):
we need to do and this is how we need
to run the team. So, you know, I think the
Steelers have a lot of work to do. I don't
think they're as talented as people think they are. I
think they need to figure that out. And I also
think they need to understand that the ball needs to
go through Levian Belt. They need to run the ball,
they need to control the pace of the game and
limit their exposure on defense. Stug got the show Fox

(01:40:56):
Sports Radio, and of course, uh Michael Embardy is our guest.
Let me get to some of the coaching news. Mike
mclarkey was rumored to be out going into last week's
playoff game. Great comeback win over the KANCI Chiefs. Then
they get thumped in New England. Now he's out again.
Why why? I think, Well, I mean horrible. I think

(01:41:21):
the whole offense has been bad, but I think Mike
didn't feel that way. I think when Mike sat down
with John Robertson, the general manager, and Steve Underwood, the president,
and they were insisting on trying to change to keep
him as the head coach, but changed the offensive staff.
I think they found resistance in Mike Malarkey. I think
Mike Malarkey thinks what they're doing offensively is good. I
think what they're Mike mlarkey feels like the way the

(01:41:41):
direction of the team is good. And I think there
lies the problem, and that's why he didn't get his
contract extended. That's why the extension broke down. Look, everybody
knows this for a fact. In the National Football League.
When that GM job opened up, everyone knew the owner
loved Mike mclarkey. Everyone knew that. Everyone accepted the job.
John Roy Winson accepted that job knowing he had to

(01:42:02):
keep Mike Malarkey, just like Bob Quinn accepted a job
in Detroit, knowing he had to keep Jim Caldwell, just
like John Dorsey accepted a job in Cleveland knowing he
had to keep Hugh Jackson. That being said, once you
know that, now Robertson had a chance. They thought they
were gonna lose to Kan't City. There were reports Malarkey
was gonna get fired after the Kan's City game. Oh
by the way, they won the game, and then the

(01:42:24):
owner comes out and supports Malarkey. What she had to do,
she had to discuere those rumors. But then when they
had the conversation about really truly evaluating your team and
truly understanding what you need to do to move forward,
Mike wasn't gonna budge. And I think this divorce how
to happen because both parties don't see the direction going
in the same way. And if that's the case, it's

(01:42:44):
better to end it now than later. Okay, let's let's
get do a couple of the other coaching hires. Um
which which of the others which some aren't still rumored right?
Like Shermer to the Giants is still rumored because he's
still coaching him. That hasn't become official yet. Um, Matt
Patricia to the Lions, and of course now Josh McDaniels
apparently to the Indianapolis Colts. Which of the fits do

(01:43:07):
you like the best? I like Josh McDaniels going Indianapolis. Look,
I think Josh is a really good offensive mind. I
think he's learned how to become a better head coach
from the Denver experience. And I think when he gets
to Indianapolis with Chris Bower, who's a really good general manager,
I think those two guys could work hand in hand
if that's the way they decide to go. And I
think he'll make Andrew Luck when he's healthy, a better player.

(01:43:28):
And when you make the quarterback your best player on
the team and playing at the highest level, you're gonna
win a lot of games in the NFL. Um. Okay,
but you gotta help me out with this am I
wrong to assume that McDaniels has to have confidence that
Luck is going to be healthy. Otherwise you can't take
that job, right, I mean, obviously that's the case. I mean,
and that's the number one thing. I'm sure the Colts

(01:43:49):
front office and their owner Jim Mercy has told all
the other candidates that look, here's the medical here's where
we're gonna be. You can't hide it. Everybody's gonna find
it out. And if you basically try to sell the
job without him, not a lot of people are gonna
want them. So I think that that had to be
the leading point of the interview when it started. Michael
Lombardi do yourself a favor. Pick up his new book.

(01:44:10):
It's called Football Done Right. How the best NFL coaches
breed success. He's worked with many of them. You wouldn't
believe all the litany of names that he's worked with
during his his stellar career at m Lombardi. NFL is
the Twitter handle, and of course GM Street is the podcast. Michael,
thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate its Doug Gotlip Show.
Fox Sports Radio has conditions on the field change, So

(01:44:33):
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bring in Dan Buyer. Dan, what are you working on? Yeahs,
you were just talking with Michael lombardio about that Titans
move Mike mclarkey out his head coach after two plus seasons.
In the two full seasons that he was the head coach,

(01:44:55):
Titans went nine and seven, but he won't be back
for the campaign. The Houston Chronicles is that the Titans
are expected to interview Texans defensive coordinator Mike Rabel for
that head coaching position. Vikings offensive coordinator Pat Shermer will
reportedly be the next head coach of the New York Giants.
That's according to CBS Sports in the NFL Network, NFL
Network saying that Patriot's offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels gonna be

(01:45:17):
the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. Georgia linebacker ro
Kuan Smith leaving school early. He will enter the NFL
draft in baseball. Yeah, he's he's he'll be a first rounder.
Leaving Georgia after that impressive run that they had almost
to a national title MLB on Foxes, Ken Rosenthal says
the San Francisco Giants have acquired Pirates outfielder Andrew McCutchen.

(01:45:39):
Trade will be finalized once the physicals are complete and passed.
In the NBA, It's a busy day on this Martin
Luther King day. The Hawks stopped the Spurs one or two.
San Antonio was playing without Kawhi Leonard. Today, Bucks one
in d C against the Wizards, one of four to
ninety five, Jewel and be thirty four and the Sixers
one seventeen one eleven win against the Raptors, while the
Hornets down the Pistons one to one oh seven, and

(01:46:00):
a couple of games in progress, including the Bulls right
now leading the Heat one on one. I'll make it
with about four to go. Heat running a seven game
win streak and the next just closed out the next
one one four. Doug Alright, awesome stuff Doug Otlive Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh so you've got games

(01:46:22):
on going. If you're wondering, like why is it loud
in the background, getting like what's going on in your studio? Uh,
I'm in Miami, Duke, Miami. They're both warming up right now.
The game is not for another hour and a half.
But if you've ever been to a college basketball game,
cad mirrors the NBA, where guys get out, get their workout,
get their shots up, and uh and uh. As Sean

(01:46:44):
McDonald walks by is calling the game for ESPN, we'll
be calling the game on radio for a Compass Radio
network anyway. Um, that's that's the reason for the noise
in the background. I mean, I ask you, guys like
I generally get I genuinely get excited. Do you feel
any sympathy for Marcus Williams Like I I don't. This

(01:47:06):
is just like, okay, we talked to Remember we talked
about injuries on how Um there's three types of people
when somebody gets hurt, right, and Type one is like, oh,
I don't want to see it. A guy breaks his leg,
and half like I don't want to see the Type
two is I want to see it once so I
catalog it for my brain. Type three Type three is
I can't watch it enough. At no point in time

(01:47:27):
in my in my mind or my life am I thinking,
Oh man, that's a human being. I don't know why.
Mostly because these injuries that occur in the sports sport,
you know, like guys come back from everything now, right
there is no career ending injury anymore. It just isn't.
So I'm kind of the same. I'm kind of the

(01:47:48):
same with Marcus Williams, Like I'm okay making fun of
him and that becoming a meme and the fact that
he he basically airbald the most important tackle of the
year and pointing out how bad the form was. Even
if I know he's a good young player, because I
know he's gonna have more football games, and you know,
I'm not gonna watch every game, but I would. I
would guess they'll have plenty of other opportunities to make

(01:48:10):
big plays and we'll see if he improves. But I
don't have any there's no human element to it with me. Music.
Are you do you feel any sorrow for Marcus Williams
to then? Oh yeah, I totally do. I feel really
bad for the guy. I know he's a professional and
he had one job to do and he completely blew it.
But the fact that he is so young and the

(01:48:31):
devastating fashion, not just like, oh man, that guy messed up,
but just how devastating it was. I I do feel
for him. You know. I mean, it's it's funny like this,
that's what happened. Who was the safety from Georgia, right,
safety from Georgia. That's a good point. Nobody's kind of
pointing out, like that thing happened too. We didn't because
he's a college athlete. We just say the safety. We

(01:48:54):
don't even say his name. And yet that's I mean,
the like in the same week, right, what wasn't the
National Championship game? Was that? That was last Monday? My
my wrong with my weeks? Did I get that was
a week ago today? Okay? What about you? Buyer? Do
you feel what I feel? Really bad for Marcus Williams.

(01:49:16):
I don't think that, Yeah, I just really do. You know.
It reminded me of and it's not the same situation,
but last year's Final Four when Jordan's Bell of Oregon
didn't box out against North Carolina, and that was such
a you know, because it was back to back trips.
But realistically, like in that situation, I'm not sure on
how much the at least the second time, things would

(01:49:37):
have worked out for Oregon if you would have boxed out.
But that's what we all pointed to, and there could
have been different instances in the game. There was even
talk on Twitter when the Saints were driving of maybe
they shouldn't have been throwing the passes and just settling
for their you know what could have been a forty
nine yard field goal at the time and trying to
use those time outs. There's I I I tend to
be coach speak, So I feel really bad about Marcus Williams,

(01:49:59):
but I said, there's a lot of other players in
the game that could have gone his way. So I
feel bad that it's all on his shoulders. I do
feel bad. Yeah, I don't know, but like, look, dude,
that's you know, it's it's part of the things that
playing defense is. Uh, but your your safety. You're a
last line of defense. Nobody gets behind it. It is
your job. I know. Guys are like like, oh he

(01:50:21):
got there early. Like yeah, I don't know. Like I look,
if you've ever played football, and I will say like this,
and this is gonna sound totally whacked, but I played.
When I was at ESPN, we played the Cops in
like a game of Stewart Scott was still alive and
he's playing and we played the Cops in like flag football,
and I hadn't played football since like eighth grade, right

(01:50:42):
like in a real and it was it was flag
uh but I mean it was um, I don't know
how it was. I guess it was seven on seven.
And when you're back there playing safety, like, it moves fast,
but it's a lot like if you're playing basketball, if
you're a professional basket player, things move or you know,
or baseball. Things happen in game action really fast and

(01:51:02):
you've done it your whole life and you know the
rules to it. So ball is in the air and
you can tell me, well, he was thinking, don't don't pass, interfere,
but like all he has to do is wait till
Stefon Diggs comes down to the ground and just kind
of wrap him up. That's it. It wasn't really that hard,
I mean, and it was made doubly bad because he

(01:51:24):
dove for him. Then he ends up taking out his
own teammate who maybe could have caught Stefan Diggs and
pulled him down. So I M. It was so stunning
and so awesome at the same time. Amazing. I know, Ramos,
you feel terrible for him, don't you. I do, But
I always love the fact that people like Wow, it's

(01:51:45):
a rookie, he's a working like the guys played football
for his most of his life. That's not like I
could see if it was like a blown coverage like that.
Maybe he wasn't used to an NFL way of doing it.
But like he was in the play, knew exactly where
it was as he just messed up. And so I
do feel sorry for the situation, but not for the
fact that he doesn't know what the play should be.
And maybe a little bit on the end on the

(01:52:06):
New Orleans team coaches for not maybe maybe they said it,
maybe they should say it'thing like, hey, here's what we
need to do in this situation. And maybe they did
and he just missed it, or maybe they didn't and
he just didn't know that. And and Doug that's a
point too. Because of the broadcast. Troy Aikman even pointed
out the play prior how the seats were putting guys
on the boundary on the sidelines so Minnesota wouldn't go

(01:52:27):
out of bounds. And I'm wondering, is that is that
what Marcus Williams was make sure they don't go out
of bounds, And so he just thought maybe a hit
right away would have dropped them. You have no idea
and what the conversation was. But it's like when a
guy intercepts a pass on fourth down when he should
have just let it drop. Is why, like, what are
you doing, idiot? That's kind of like you just gave

(01:52:48):
up twenty yards of field position, but they picked off
the passage here. I think, I know, I disagree. I mean,
I think I know what you're getting to. Like, I
just I think they're completely dissimilar in terms of like
the the you're you're throwing the ball and you're like, oh,
I'm an intercept it. Like the second it's really hard
to not go after the white shiny light that is

(01:53:09):
a football. I get that one. But when it comes
to like this is this is not just a case
of what he was told. This is just terrible form.
He's not looking, he's diving. He's submarine and at the
dude's legs. And that's that's never actually the right thing
to do, and it's especially not the right thing to
do in this particular. That's why I don't care, Like
I'm not He's a good player, a good young kid.

(01:53:31):
Almost the only thing I would disagree with you and
I don't know enough about his background. Is the one
thing about football is not every guy who's a safety
grows grows up being a safety. Time. Safeties are guys
that are linebackers um that they're too small to play
linebacker uh in college or in the National Football leagues,
so they moved to safety or they're not. They don't
have the great hips and the great speed to play cornerback.

(01:53:53):
And they have really they have really good feel. But
like I was texting with two NFL g ms last
night and they're like last on the defense. I was like, football,
want I want to like see what you hit? Like
that was that's a really basic thing, more so than
the positioning. And they're not letting them get out of bounds.
I'd be fascinating. Also, Buyer, you mentioned what Troy Hickman
was pointing out that why they didn't throw deep down

(01:54:15):
the middle. The Vikings didn't throw deep down the middle
with fourteen seconds to go, Like I I don't know
the timing of it. And again I know they practice it,
but how long does it take to you know, it's
like three or four seconds to complete the pass then
you just slide. Can't you get those fat dudes down
there to spike the football in ten seconds. I don't know,

(01:54:36):
but remember like like look like Mike Zimmer. They could
have run way more time off the clock before they
kicked their fifty three yard field goal, and then of
course they left. You leave Drew Brees with all that time.
You know exactly what Drew Brees is gonna do, right,
They remember they had they had the third and one
before they kicked the field goal, and they were stopped

(01:54:58):
third and short. If they get that on yard they like,
then Minnesota has to use all their time outs and
then they can kick it with you know, five seconds
left or whatever they want to do. But Minnesota had
a big stop on third and one to at least
give them thirty seconds. Yeah, yeah, fascinating stuff. I mean,
I I love. It's one of those things too, which
I really love sports, as you guys know, like you know,

(01:55:18):
we're not in this business unless you actually absolutely love sports.
But you know, I love the fact that we're talking
about an actual moment in sports. You know, we're not
talking about and I'm not trying to be disrespectful to protests,
and you know, nor do I think the other kind
of inner workings of organizations. All that stuff is interesting,
and you know what, it pays our bills because people

(01:55:40):
like talking about like listening to it, but some so
to do actual sports plays. And in one week, from
last Monday night until this Monday night, we're talking about
two safeties and the mistakes that they made cost their
teams the game. That's it all right, like, and we
can be nice about it, or we can we can
just be a matter of fact about it, or we

(01:56:01):
can talk about how quickly and it is. Really it's
a I love those uh when they have the pylon
came or when you see it on the field, you're like, wow,
that happened really fast, Like the NFL is so college
football at a high level is so fast the action
to where you take a step in the wrong direction
and you are cooked, I mean absolutely cooked. So yeah

(01:56:22):
it was. But I don't have that there's something missing
in my my my d NA to where I don't
I don't care as much as I should about the
human being in this particular instance because I know they'll
live to play another day. That maybe that's a that's
a personal flaw of mine that I'll admit. Um, wouldn't
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In about an hour, if your station picks up the
Duke Miami game, I'll get Chess to be on the
call of its kind of weird. It's actually the first
duke game I've ever broadcast only on radio. I've never
done it on they've done on TV. I've been fifteen

(01:57:25):
years of games. The Miami um obviously called n c
A tournament games, never called a duke game before, so
it should be interesting obviously to see Marvin Bagley Miami
is super super talented team. Uh. They have Lonnie Walker
really talented freshman Bruce Brown, a couple of guys that
people think you'd go in the first round the NBA Draft,
going against a duke team with a a litany of

(01:57:48):
young stars, and Grayson Allen as well. So little college
basketball top of uh two an hour and a half
from now or so, let's get to the press the
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agent at Farmers dot com. All right, let's bring in
Dan by. What do you got Dan? Well, as if
yesterday wasn't bad enough for the Saints and Steelers, their
coaches just found out they're gonna have to do some
more work. They're gonna be the Pro Bowl coaches coming
up in a couple of weeks. So Steelers staff of
the Saints staff will be coaching the Pro Bowl in

(01:58:30):
Orlando that takes place between the championship games and Super
Bowl weekend. So uh that just in also a story
that we've been covering throughout the day. Mike Malarkey, I
mean really like, like how much coaching has done at
the Pro Bowl. Very little very little. But it's in Orlando.
You know, there's no longer the trip to Hawaii. They

(01:58:50):
get to go to Orlando for the Pro Bowl, which
is very much like away. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sure.
Yeah right there, mikel like Mom, Malarkey out as the
head go to the Titans after two nine and seven
shut up France, uh after two nine and seven seasons.
I mean, like, look, I mean I think Michael Marty

(01:59:11):
uh uh said it perfectly. I mean, it really did
um when he said, hey, look, they wanted to change offenses,
and he wasn't willing to fire his guys, so they
fired him. Pretty simple, really really simple. I mean it's
very clear dysfunction in terms of of offensive you know,

(01:59:32):
offensive philosophy, offensive theories, if you will, and Malarkey had
had to go. But I think what he did was
he got them through the two years of of you know,
they've already gone through a rebuild, and they got him
back to the kind of legitimacy to nine and seven years.
They obviously benefited from the fact that the Colts have
been way down and the Texans have been injured, and

(01:59:53):
the jack Jaguars up until this year, we're kind of
a joke. And now you bring in a guy who
can take an even further step. And I think what's
gonna be big for the Titans is gonna be they're
gonna have to get some better offensive personnel out wide.
You could ease very easily see Marcus Mariota. Now have
a Jared Goff like season. If you find the right
offensive guy, even if they hire a defensive head coach,

(02:00:15):
it's over, Jenny. No offensive coaches seem to be the trend.
Because Josh McDaniels is gonna leave the Patriots for the
Indianapolis Colts head coaching gig. Pat Shermer gonna be leaving
Minnesota to take the Giants head coaching job. Those reports
coming earlier today. Yeah, the Shermer one is interesting. You know,
he was a head coach for let the head coach
of Cleveland for like a year, right, And but wherever

(02:00:37):
he's been the quarterback play has been better. I guess
the question becomes, I mean the assumption, My assumption would
be he's brought in, um, he's brought into coach a
new quarterback, not to coach Eli Manning. But if you
lie Manning it like man there's the guy who's pretty
good with a with you know, three different quarterbacks this
year in Minnesota. Look at how many guys he's worked with. Tom.

(02:00:58):
That's that's kind of that's gonna be fascinating. Higher. How
about the higher this weekend, Kevin Sumlin going to Arizona
to replace Rich Rodriguez. You know, their defensive coordinator worked
for him at at Texas A and m UH, and
the defensive coordinate is a very good recruiter. I actually
think Arizona kind of crushed it. I really do. Like,
I don't know if they can get to the level

(02:01:20):
of I don't think they get to the level of
the usc S or some of the other elite teams
in that league. But if they can, they'll do so
because they hired two dynamic recruiters and Arizona is redoing
all their UH facilities, so uh, you know, Rich Rod
Rich rod you know got them. Khalil Tate. Tate's not
a great thrower, but he will fit into the air

(02:01:41):
raid offense if he can get more accurate. He's a
great runner. And the finals rematch coming up at eight
o'clock Eastern Tom Warriors and Calves tonight in Cleveland. Doug
Um if I'm gonna spend on any NBA game, I'm
taking the It's the Grizzlies tonight, you saw, but I
don't know who's starting for the for the Lakers tonight

(02:02:01):
because like half their team is out anyway. And then
and then tonight's game, Steph is playing though, right, so
you got Steph Curry and Isaiah Thomas is playing. I
would expect you know, last year this time when they
played in Cleveland or was Christmas Day, Remember Golden State
at a huge lead in Cleveland, came back. I think Cleveland.
I think Golden State wins this game. Handling get out

(02:02:24):
there and pressed that the press. Alright, couple of college
uh picks I got for you to night. I do
like Miami to keep this thing close their home home
dogs tonight. Um And I think West Virginia blows out Kansas.
Kansas can't rebound with West Virginia. That just a depth
of bodies and uh, Kansas can shoot a bunch of threes,

(02:02:45):
but West Virginia defend them. All right, We'll be back tomorrow,
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