Does Kaepernick Want To Get Hired This Way?

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guess I guess I'm gonna jump back into the rabbit

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hole that is Colin Kaepernick. I just keep It's like
the mafia, right, I just keep trying to climate. They
just just keep bringing me back in, right Like I'm
trying to go legitimate and and talk about look guys
actually playing in the National Football League, and they just
keep bringing So yesterday there was a a demonstration in
front of NFL headquarters to bring back Colin kaeperni You know,

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Colin Kaepernick does not have a place in the league.
More than a thousand people, many wearing jersey's bearing Kaepernick's
name crowded the streets outside of the NFL's Midtown Manhattan offices.
Oh that's all we need is more traffic in Midtown.
I mean chance of the demonstration included boycott boycott. There's

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a Reverend Jamal Bryant said, how in the world can
we call ourselves the land of the Free, the home
of the brave, and get vilified and criminalized for just
speaking your mind. The NFL has proven their treatment of
Colin Kaepernick that they do not mind if black players
get a concussion, they got a problem if black players
get a conscience. These are strong words and strong statements.

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But instead of going down the rabbit hole of hey, look,
there's been players demonstrating since Colin Kaepernick, none of them
have been cut. Instead of pointing out that Colin Kaepernick
did in fact opt out of his contract and he
would have been cut from that contract in San Francisco anyway,
but he would have been cut he opted out of
the contract he had. Instead of pointing out contact Kaepernick

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had previously lost his job. He hasn't actually been that
good since two thousand and thirteen. Instead of pointing out
that shady McCoy running back, black running back in the
nash Football they can. I don't know if that actually matters,
but in this case, I guess it does. As much
as we were waiting for NFL players waiting for a
a white player to take a knee, you're also waiting
for a black player to come out and go like, hey,

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you know, maybe it's because Colin Kaepernick is not that good.
And that's what Shady McCoy said. He's like, some of
it I think has to do with the with the
protest distraction that comes to the protest, But a lot
of it is he's just not that good and not
good enough to put up with all the other stuff.
August two thousand and seventeen, Lashawn Shady McCoy the voice

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of reason? Is it? No? I think it's twenty five
My bad would be my bad. That's rhyme. Music helped
me out. Good good produce production there. But look, to me,
the the smart point to make is this is this
really how con Kaepernick wants to get a job? Right?

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Why do you guys signed Kaepernick? Oh loved them all along.
I mean he loved them all along. You know, like, wait,
so a thousand people many of whom have nothing to
do with football, who claim they're gonna boycott it. Like look,
everybody says everyone, when when you get mad, you'll say anything.
I got my car told from Whole Foods. Now, Whole
Whole Foods overcharges me by at least five dollars every

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time they've actually been found to overcharge people right been
found to be negligent. They were just bought by Amazon.
So at some point I'll be able to get my
totally organic food without going through my grunge guy who
works at the counter. I got my car towed from
Whole Foods two days ago, and I said this will

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be the last time I shop here. Now. I made
sure to say here, meaning this particular Whole Foods. But
it is kind of a hop, skip and and a
jump from our radio offices. And so while I huff
and puff and pushed out my chest, the fact is,
when push comes to shove and I'm really really hungry
and I want to get something that might actually seem
like even if it's not good for me, I'm gonna

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go down and get my Kapa crazy feta cheese from
Whole Foods because that's the only place they sell the
damn stuff. The point is that if there's any real
football fan out there, or even quasi football fan, like
I'm not gonna watch it, Like okay, either want if
you don't watch football, I I can't really have a
conversation with you, like I don't. I don't watch sports.

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Sky is not somebody that I'm gonna hang with anyway.
And a lot of us say we're gonna do it
is one thing, and the truth is or not. Football's
on what you're gonna tell me you're gonna watch Bachelor
in Paradise mine? But if is this really how Colin
Kaepernick wants to get a job. And by the way,

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this only points out why Colin Kaepernick doesn't have a job.
It's not hiring him. It's if you don't play him.
Are they gonna be demonstrations or you're not playing him
because of his protest? And then what if he's not
any good and you want to cut him? You know
it come because of his protests? You know, it's not
it's not how you want to get a gig. And

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we as when you work somewhere, you don't love it
when there's nepotism, you know, the owner's son coach his son.
I was a coach's son growing up playing basketball my
dad always and it was harder to be a coach's
son than it was to be a regular player. Why
because there always are the thought in the backup teammates
had the only reason he's playing, he's because he's the
coach's son. So my it was harder on me because

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my dad would be twice as hard on me as
he would other kids, because he wanted to prove that
he could be harder harder on me than he would
be other kids. But just like imagine the mentality of
Colin Kaepernick, who, among other things, he has a sense
of pride, like all of a sudden, the team's gonna
pick up the phone and go like, hey, dude, you
want to come play for us? And whether it's real

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or perception, perception often becomes reality. And he only got
a job after people started to protest who had nothing
to do with football. Do you want to be that guy?
I continue to contend that many of these people who
have the right intentions at heart, all right, like it's

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a good to to rid the world or to to
eliminate as much police brutality as possible. I can't. That's
a pretty good cause, right, there's other causes that are,
you know, I mean like I'd like to rid the
world of cancer. Cause my dad to cancer. I'd like
to rid the world of you know, any childhood diseases. No,

(07:58):
kids should never be sick. Like it, anything one human
does to another, we can eliminate it or limited. I'd
like to limit racism. And also I like to eliminate um.
People will get pulled over shooting cops, empowering criminals, like
these are all things. But these are these are reasonable causes.

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But when you have unreasonable protests from people who don't
know anything about the sport coming in and saying this
is nick, how do you get vilified and criminalized for
speaking your mind? He wasn't criminalized. Now many criminalized Colin Kaepernick.
He lost his job, He's had injuries. He's a bit

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of an odd fit. He's not the normal personality of
a starting quarterback in the NFL. And yeah, he protested.
And when you're a borderline player and you take a stand, this,
if anything, also points out just how bold to stand
it was. He was risking his job and he did,

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and now he can't get another one. And by crying foul.
Do you think you want to be? Why did you
guys signed Colin Kaepernick? Did you sign him because of
the protest? You can say no, we all think otherwise anyway.
So it's a it's a kind of fascinating case study

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on people trying to help somebody else out in a
profession outside of their own that they don't really understand.
It doesn't delegitimize the argument completely that he doesn't have
a job because of taking a knee before the national anthem,

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but it also points out, hey, you're not really helping.
You may think you're helping, but you're not. Because now,
how would you like to be the team, How would
you like to be the player? How would you like
to be the player? Walking into a locker room? That
no is he only got that job because people protested
and said he was somehow wronged by thirty two NFL franchises.

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Charles Davis joins the show. Up coming next, I'll ask
him about Colin Kaepernick's talent. How talented is he does?
Does the talent elevate him above the level that the
distraction and that the discussion and that all the things
that go with them would bring him down. Plus, I'm
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Let's check him with a good friend of the program.
You'll see him in the NFL on Fox's coverage. Also
works for the NFL network. He's Charles Davis. He joins
us on Fox Sports Radio. Charles, you've look, you've done
this thing for a long time, cover the college game,
and last year start back covering the NFL game. Give
me your sense. There's been a lot of talk about
Kaepernick off the field, Kaepernick kneeling. You've watched Kaepernick play,

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You've evaluated him as a quarterback. Um, you know, the
most people I've talked to you said, Hey, different guys
since two thousand thirteen. But there were moments last year
in which he looked closer to that guy. What was
your sense when you watched him last season of his
of how viable he was in the starting quarterback Yeah.
I don't dispute the evaluation that people have given you, Doug.

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I think that they're on track. But I was fortunate
enough to be there for one of those moments that
you talked about, and you might remember it was it
didn't start well that week because they were they were
in Miami to play, and you remember asked with the
Castro t shirt and everything that went along with that.
So that wasn't one of his finer moments as far
as the city of Miami and the Cuban the human nation,

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we're feeling and Armando sal Gero, the top beat writer
for the Dolphins, wrote a scathing column that pointed out
a lot of things that he needed to be aware of,
But on the field that weekend, he he looked more
like the Colin Kaepernick that we knew from the previous time,
and almost rally San Francisco to a win. He got
tackled on the two yard line and thinks by Kiko

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Alonso on the last run, but he played well through it,
well within control. We saw the running game come back
into play in with him. Things were clicking, things removing. Now,
I don't believe he's the same guy as he was before,
but if you take him, I think that you you
know you know what you're getting and you know what
you'll have to do offensively in order to maximize his skills.

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The tough part for him is he's going to become
in as a backup. No one's going to take him
and say I'm going to make you my starter and
build things around him. So it's got to be a
place where things will be easily accomplished Doug if he
comes into the ball game. That's why I thought Seattle
was absolutely a perfect spot for him. Russell Wilson is different,

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but they can adjust that offense very easily to fit
Colin Kaepernick's talents because if you look at the backup
Trevon Boykin, he's more similar to to Colin Kaepernick in
that way, although he's not nearly a staff and elusive
as a runner, but not many people are, especially when
you consider the size of Kaepernick. Yeah, so so why
do you think that didn't like? Look, I was told
that Russell Wilson wasn't too hip on the idea of

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Kaepernick um. And there is the you know, not that
Russell Wilson it is not secure as a starting quarterback.
But but why why wouldn't that happen? And see, I
remember that it was weird he went there and visited
and when he came out, you know, Pete Carroll said, well,
well we think of him as a starter and we
already have a start. Well that's the case, and why
did you bring him up? Why do you think that

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didn't make You know, Doug, if if we followed that
line of what you've heard, and you know, I have
nothing to go off of that, you know, I didn't
have anyone to say that to me. But let's go
ahead and trace a couple of things, because that's what
we do, right. You remember during that there's still that
little bit of turbulent time about how Russell Wilson is
quote unquote accepted. You know, they are they're always the

(15:37):
guys are always having you know, give answers about how
they feel about Russell Wilson, Right, you always hearing that,
so when you throw that out there, and then you
also heard during that time a ton of support from
that Seattle locker room about Colin Kaepernick, didn't you, So
maybe that had something to play into it. Maybe there
was that. If indeed that's how Russell felt, I don't

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know because I have not talked with him about that,
And it just seemed like there was there was another
false start, because the other false start for me was
in Baltimore, and that one didn't fit as well to
me in terms of playing style because of what Baltimore does,
although it could all right, he's way different than Joe
Flacco and Ryan Nolan, but because Baltimore likes to run

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the football, that's who they are, that's in their DNA,
and they've gotten away from that recently. He would fit
again because he's gonna throw off the heavy play action
and all of that. And you noticed John Harball seemed
to be strong for him, as he knew from the GM,
seemed to be strong for him. Steve Bashaty it seemed
like it was a bit much to say pray for us,
But I kept reflecting on this guy saying you know

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something that I was listening Ray Lewis than I had
Ray Ryan. So I don't know if I want to
do this. And I really believe Doug that this is
more coming from the top down. I think there's some gms.
I think there's some coaches in the league who would
like to bring him in, but I think the ownership
has told them no. And I will tell you I
talked with the GM recently point blank and said, you know,

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I don't think you're backup quarterbacks are that great? And
he said, well, we're very comfortable with what we have.
And I said, well, what about Kaepernick and if they
long pause, and then it was we're very comfortable what
we have. Okay, Okay, I don't know if that's him.
It certainly sounds like maybe there's an edict from up
from up top, So we'll see how this plays out.
It's funny because because because Charles Davis joining his NFL

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and Fox, one of the gms I talked to said,
and this was this kind of reverberated another conversation, said, hey,
you know, I think we brought him in a lot
of guys would be happy about it. It would be championed. Uh,
but I also think that if you ever decided to
cut him and move on, or you didn't play him
and your starter wasn't that the same amount of support

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that he had could then be a little bit more
divisive within the locker room through no fault of Colin's own.
Like his popularity is and slightly polarizing makes it it's
harder to cut him than it is anybody else. And
and and that's not one to say, it's it's a
it's really fascinating to watch. That is interesting, and let
me us throw this so this actually does. Because I

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know you're a student of the game in history, think
about Colin Kaepernick and what he's done. And I think
I've told you this before. When he first started doing this,
I talked to my dad, okay, who went through civil rights.
My dad played black college football, all right, He was
a quarterback, so he wasn't going to the so called
white schools. You get the whole idea, right. He told
me that he would start a movement, and I didn't

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believe him. My dad hit it, okay, he said, look,
it's not gonna be comfortable, and he said, Colin also
has to be And I remember this as Clearsday said,
Colin Kaepernick also has to be acutely aware and if
he's not, he should be that he may be he
may give up his own career for his beliefs. And
right now my dad has really on track about what

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he is saying. And to your point about the locker
room cutting him this and that, it's a different style
of when Tim Tebow hit a locker room, isn't it
because people want you know, people like us would go
talk to Tim Tebow after a game and the starter
wouldn't get any play and after wow, that that wears
on the locker room, Like hol said, what about us?
We played? He's not really affecting it what's going on,

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and that became an issue for him through again no
fault of his own. He's just being Tim Tebow. So
it's a different deal and the difference down I can
hear people screaming, you know, you can't put Kaepernick and
Tebow in the same setence. You absolutely heard what I said.
You see it's a little bit different, but can't be
polarizing in the locker room. He's Charles Davis here in
NFL on Fox. He joins us here on the Doug

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Galic Show. Also see him on the NFL network. UM,
rookie quarterbacks are all the rage, right, everybody wants to
see any kid, young kid play and and a lot
of times the guy who they're trying to beat out
does do do themselves. No favorite like Mike glennan UM.
Mike glenn is a perfect example that Let's start with
Mitchell Trabinsky. If if you were in that front office,

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you're and that coaches those coaches office. They open up
with the Falcons, the defending NFC champions who have loaded
up on their defensive front. Granted they open up at
home Falcons at the tamp A Buccaneers, who everybody believes
is a massively improved team. Then the Steelers, not a
great defense, but steal the Steelers. Then they go on
the road to the Packers home to the Vikings, then

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on the road at the Ravens. Like what do you
how do you handle the Mitchell the college from Mitchell
Trobinsky to start right away, Well, if they listen, I'd
get it's funny. It's funny you ask. I've got the
Bears and Titans this weekend in the preseason game, and
they just announced was it yesterday that Trabinsky is going
to get run with the first unit, probably to start
the second half, which they had not thought of. That

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they had not announced that they were going to do before.
Previously it was Mike glennon and will bring Mitchell along.
They want to get a look at it. I would
dare say that I would not be shocked if that
change is even in game on Sunday that they move
him up and play him in the first half with
the with the ones. And if they do that signals
to me that they're gonna try and get him ready

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to play those games. Look, the easy thing would be
Mike glenn is gonna play through that that part of
the schedule you're talking about. But if you really believe
Rabisky is going to be your guy, he's got to
take some bumps and bruises anyway. He's got to learn.
We've had a number of quarterbacks have started seasons that
were rookies. Jameis Winston did, Mariota did the whole deal
and it didn't matter who was lined up across the field.

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Kaiser may very well do that in Cleveland if they
really believe that that he gives them the best chance
and they decided to go for it early. I say,
go ahead and play him. They're gonna have to take
those ups and downs anyway. I don't know about the
protecting them because I feel like, you play, you don't
plan for three or four games, and you put him in,
you almost wasted three or four games because you were

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going to do it anyway. I think it's different in
Houston with Tom Savage because it feels like he sees
that job. But I still think Watson could be viable
down the stretch. And Alex Smith he's got to win
some big games because Patrick Mahomes is coming. Yeah, the
Mahomes thing. And I talked to some guys about Mahomes
and you saw him a bunch of college, so did I.
I mean, look, he's just got more armed talent, more

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athletic talent than than Alex Smith does. But he there's
so many other little things that he doesn't get. Yeah,
and Donny's got to learn. But but you know, Doug,
you know the reason that they moved up to thirteen
or whatever number it was to get him. I'm I
firmly believe, and I haven't sat down on Andy Reid
or you know, any of the front office. But I
firmly believe that that Pittsburgh playoff game where they lost

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at home and did not give up a touchdown got
beat by field goals. I think that that was the
real impetus for this thing, because you can't be in
that position where your quarterback doesn't take that shot sometimes
to stick that bad boy in the end zone. Alex
Smith's gonna take care of the ball, is gonna be
great with it. I think a lot of times he

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catches more black than he should, but the ball doesn't
get downfield very often. There's no arguing or disputing that
Mahomes is going to do that. Now you're gonna come.
As you said, there's plenty mistakes that may come with it,
But I think they drafted him to win those types
of games later, because sometimes you have to take the shot.
Sometimes you've got you can't just play it safe all
the time. Third and seven and defense gives you six.

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You can't take six third and seven. You gotta take
eight somehow, and that's what Mahomes gives you an opportunity
to do. And I think Watson also has that potential
in him as well. Charles Davis joining us NFL on
Fox analysts. Also, you see him on the NFL network.
You mentioned you're preparing for Bears versus Titans. A lot
of buzz about about Jamis and what he's been able

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to do in Tampa. What about Mariota. Part of it
is it's Nashville. We don't cover a lot, but it
feels like he's ready to take that next step. But
that's not The guys have watched him on tape you
have you're getting ready for the game. Where is Mariota
as a pro quarterback? He is ready to take the

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next step and they drafted accordingly to try and help
him do that. I don't know, Corey Davis the number
one pick and then they took a number five. Why
would say about Western Michigan. Don't know when he will
be ready. They're pushing to try and have him ready
for the season opener at maybe later we'll see, but
he hasn't. He hasn't worked out in the camp. But
Taiwan Taylor from Western Kentucky has come on and played

(24:06):
well for them. Gives him more speed in the lineup
and a tight end named John nu Smith from Florida International.
When you pair him with Delaney Walker, now you have
more to more speed in the game, more options again
tight ends, but more likely you know, big wide receivers
would get down field. They're trying their best to increase
those weapons because they're going to run the heck out
of it. Does you know that there? They're a smash

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mouth team to to quote a dude, to quote an
overused phrase, but they need something extra. They need to
really be able to sting people down to field, make
them pay for the eight people in the box. That's
what Corey Davis was drafted for. That's what Taywan Taylor
was drafted for. That's what john N Smith was drafted for.
They're surrounding him with those people. The offensive lines back

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attack on the best in football. And I've watched him
this summer. I do their preseason package. He has grown
as a quarterback from year two to year three. Has
helped his back. He moves around well, he knows how
to get rid of the balls and lived to fight
another down. I think also the ability to throw it
downfield will continue to increase. I think he's ready to
take a jump. I know, uh, I know that Cam

(25:11):
didn't play last week when you called that game. Christian
McCaffrey did, But you talked to everybody in the league
and you've covered Cam enough. Look, he's coming back tonight
from shoulder surgery. And anytime you say shoulder surgery, he
Andrew Luck both kind of uh. Coming off a shoulder injuries,
it makes anyone queasy about a star quarterback. But there
are parts of his play last year which were very uneven,

(25:34):
and there wasn't the evolution from Cam Newton coming off
the m v P to take a step to being
a consistent Dowmond and pass. Now. Look, their line wasn't
as good, the running game was good, the defense sure
as heck, wasn't as good, and he had to do more. Uh,
what are your thoughts on Cam Newton and how we
should evaluate Newton tonight? And Newton had me into the season.

(25:54):
I'll make this one quicker than normal. Ron Rivera said
at the end of last year, said it to me
as I prepared for a broadcast, said it's the media
in Carolina that Cam would have to evolve similar to
how Big Ben evolved where he doesn't take so many
hits in the pocket. You remember that, Dug. There's a
big discussion about that. When Ron said that to me
on the phone. I said, coach, quick question, have you

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talked to Cam about this? And he said he just
got chuckled and went, no, not yet, but you know
we'll be getting into an off season, the whole deal. Well,
fast forward to this year. They draft McCaffrey right, they
draft Curtis Samuel, They bring in Matt Khalil to play
left tackle. They draft Taylor Moton to play right tackle
or guard, depending on how they want to utilize him.
They've tried to increase that and what they've told him

(26:38):
essentially what that draft was, let's get rid of the
ball faster camp. Let's get into the hands of these guys.
Let's not take as many hits, but maybe we'll cut
you down on the running game, not totally out of it,
but let's not make you a primary third and two guys,
do you remember Camp's first press conference of camp? Remember
what they said, what he said when they asked him
about you know all those things. Well, you know, Allion's
got a roar. So if they if he's not willing

(27:02):
to make the step to change, that's where things are
going to get interacting. Because they've done all the right
things for him. Look, I watched him throw last week,
he didn't throw a ton and during practice, But I
think he's on track. They're just being cautious with him
and smart because maybe they got over extended early. I
think he plays up to twenty plays tonight, Doug. I
think he takes it, you know. I think he takes

(27:22):
a shot downfield and make sure the arms. Okay, I think,
you know. I doubt that they use him in the
run game. But after that we'll see him for the
season opener. But if he'll use those weapons around him
now and adapt to what they're going to do offensively,
that Mike Schouler is going to call. I think we
can see Cam be closer to what we saw in
the m v P year without him being as much

(27:42):
of a primary ball carrier. But he's got to take
those easy completions. Take him and up your percentage. Last
year way too and took way too many hits. Get
rid of the ball. Don't take the hits. I know
you're Superman, but even Superman has and kryptonite. In the NFL,
it's called a pass rush. Yeah, well, listen, he needs it,
needs to take on that Rocky Balboa from Rocky for

(28:02):
mentality contains and loose contains always Yeah he was. He
was probably concussed, maybe not. Um, Charles, look forward to
hearing you on the call, and Uh, I can't wait
to talk more with you. Getting ready for the NFL season.
Thanks so much of being our guests as always, Thanks
a lot for having me. Doug, always great a talk
with you. Take care of yourself. Hope you're enjoyed being

(28:24):
back home. Mccallary, I am. It's Charles Davis. Of course,
he's back home covering the Tennessee Titans played at ut
um uh In in Knoxville. I'm live on Radio Row
getting ready for Mayweather McGregor on Saturday night. There's there's
something I really hope does not happen in the Mayweather
McGregor fight. But if it does happen, I want to
be watching it. If it does happen, I'll explain. Doug

(28:47):
Olive Show, Fox Sports Radio, John Ramos, Ryan Music, Dan
Buyer alongside uh Buyer. I'm I'm wondering, um, and you
can hear Dan on the week ends on Fox Sports
Radio as well as we get week days on this show. Um,
there are three there are three types of people, men
and three types of people in this world. In watching

(29:09):
sports injuries. There is I don't ever want to see it.
I don't want to see it that. That's that's guy one.
Guy too is I want to see it once so
I can catalog it in my memory bank. Just I
need to. Okay, I saw, I saw it. I'm good.
I'm good. And then there is guy three, who I

(29:31):
oh god, I saw blind that I gotta watch. Ah.
Is there another who watched Paul George break his leg
at U and l V like fifteen times, then sent
it to all his buddies and had them watch it
fifteen times. Dan Buyer, what kind of guy are you?
I'm I can't watch it, guy, you never watch it?

(29:52):
And my wife, My wife is the opposite. She can
watch that and see it and goes, oh my gosh,
but I'm I can't watch it. John Ramos, what kind
of guy are you? I like to watch it. I'm
the kind of guy who goes, oh, let's see that again? Yeah, almost,
Ryan Music, Which are you? I'm in the middle. I'm
the guy who's okay, I can see Paul George break

(30:13):
his leg once so I can take in what happened.
But after that, I'm good. I don't need to watch
it anymore. I just need to see it once I
am with John Ramos. I can't get enough. I can't
get enough of sports injuries, watching dudes break their legs
in half, you know. Like, Um, I bring that up
because look, I don't want anyone to die in the ring. Okay,

(30:37):
I don't want anybody to die, and I don't want
Conn McGregor to die at the hands of Floyd Mayweather.
But if he does die, I want to be watching
it at the time because I don't want people to
go like, oh my god, did you see that he
actually died? Like, no, way, watch it, Like I want
to be like the last guy to know. So I'm admitting. Look,
I'm just admitting that there's that part of my brain

(30:59):
that I don't I really really don't like. Look, I'd
like to see him. I'd like to see him look bad,
because I do think it it minimizes um our kind
of romantic belief in how skillful you have to be,
how long it takes to become a great boxer. But
I don't want him to die. Um. This is really interesting,

(31:23):
and it was in the New York Times earlier today.
Apparently there's a bunch of uh, there's a hundred ringside doctors.
Who's there's a group of more than a hundred ringside
doctors whose members, for decades of experience, have worked hundreds
of major bouts in New York, Nevada, and other jurisdictions.
Arguing that Connor McGregor, mixed martial arts champion, who will

(31:44):
be fighting his first professional about his overmatched by Floyd
mayweathers forty nine, considered the best boxer of his generation.
Quote we were very surprised as about was even sanctioned
and was going to be permitted to carry on. Larry Lovelace,
a doctor in the president of the organization, which is
focused on preserving fighters safety. Like fighters safety is kind
of like, uh, kind of like civil war, right, Like

(32:07):
are you really that's safe if you're going in there
to get your head tattered by another man? But nonetheless, quote,
the thing I really fear, truly fear, is that somebody's
gonna be really get hurt in this upcoming fight. I
don't want anybody getting hurt, but if they do get hurt,
I want to go. I want to be the one
watching it. And I actually think that, um. I remember

(32:27):
in in June, Tim Haig, thirty four mixed martial arts
MRS martial artist turned boxers, sustained fatal injuries during about
against Adam Braidwood in Edmonton, Alberta. It was Haig's fourth
pro boxing match after competing in thirty four mm A fights.
So he's doctors and look doctors do that. They're extra cautious.

(32:49):
You know, you sprain an ankle and the doctors like, oh,
you gotta be on crutches for a month, you know.
I I know people who have women who have gotten
a c section. They're up not just walking around but
working out in the first couple of weeks, like it's
supposed to be six to eight weeks before you do anything.
On the other hand, doctor's sitting there going like, hey,

(33:09):
you know, we we clear these fights. This does not
seem like a good idea, and there is precedent for
a mixed martial artist actually getting killed in the ring.
The problem with it is, and while this points out
how big a farce this fight could be, it makes
me want to watch the fight more. I'm sorry that
it makes me want to watch the fight more so

(33:31):
that something does happen. I see it and then I
could go to find somewhere and rewind it and watch
it again, and watch it again, and watch it again.
Don't hate me because I'm honest. Um, do you remember
the what was the referreene? George Richard Steele retired referee,

(33:52):
remember me used to He used to referee all the
biggest fights in boxing. I would definitely have it in
mind of protecting the kid. The safety of the fighters
always going to be there, but it might be a
little bit more this fight because the guy had never
been in a boxing room. All right, a major brawl
in Major League Baseball. Real news or fake news? You
will find out next what True Car. You can find

(34:15):
out what other people in your area paid for the
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this time in the Dug Gotlieb Show, we try and
round up as many interesting, funny fun stories in the
world of sports, and uh we allowed Dan Buyer the

(34:35):
leeway of picking the game, picking the topics. We call
it game time. This is game time side on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. Danny B What do you got for me? Doug? Today,
We've got a good old fun game of real news
fake news. Real news are fake news, alright, let's do it.

(34:58):
Real news are fake news. Benches cleared between the Tigers
and Yankees in Detroit just minutes ago, as Miguel Cabrera
through multiple punches at Yankees catcher Austin Romane. Uh, he gave.
He gave the one too. I'm gonna go real news
and spectacular it maybe better than Mayweather McGregor because Roman

(35:19):
and Cabrera we're having some words at home played and
you're right. It was a one two punch by Miguel Cabrera,
who had Roman for by about six inches or so.
Yankees and Tigers have been going at it all afternoon.
Michael Fullmer drilled Gary Sanchez and his at bat after
Sanchez hit his twenty seven under the season. There's more
joint going on between the Yankees and Tigers. A brew

(35:41):
haha in Motown today, Doug, I think that's more than
a brew haha. I think that's a that's a Donnie Brook. Actually,
that's a that's a Donnie Brook. By the way, Donnie
Brooks coming up next hour, So right here on the
Doug Gottlip Show, Donnie brook joining us fire Uh, it

(36:01):
isn't Donny here a week try the veal. We'll see
if there's more more fireworks between these two teams. Um,
real news are fake there's Doug trade talks between the
Knicks and Rockets involving Carmelo Anthony are heating up in
a deal couldn't be done by next week, according to reports.
I believe that's fake news. You are fake news. That
is fake news. ESPN says the talks are stagnant right now.

(36:22):
Rockets can't find a third or fourth team to get involved.
Looks like more and more Mellow could be in training
camp with the Knicks this fall. I like it. The
ball has stuck much like the ball sticks every time
Mellow gets it on this trade. I mean, like, listen,
you just said dunny Brook was coming up next hour.

(36:43):
It would be good, be a good guest. You know, Hey,
Donny Brooke, can you stay right after the update? Can
you stick around for ten more minutes? You got more
to talk to him about. Real news are fake news.
Doug Bills running back Luis Shawn McCoy did a lot
of talking today. You talked about his comments about Colin Kaepernick,
but McCoy to reporters that he's been told by the
team he is not on the training block. Is that
real news or fake news? Uh? Fake news and spectacular.

(37:10):
He would think maybe he'd be on the trading box
and Sammy Watkins is out of town. Ronald Darby was
dealt as well, but McCoy says that he's been told
by the team they aren't going to trade him. Sean
McDermott said the same thing as well. There were reports
earlier in the week that Lusha McCoy would be staying
in Buffalo and that the fire sale wouldn't continue. That
is the case, Lushaw McCoy saying the Bills are telling

(37:32):
him he's gonna stick around. Sticking to stick around. We
need something, We need somebody to go down with this ship.
That's what they're saying. Hey, if I'm him, I wouldn't
mind be traded. Why not? You're not gonna win and
then you gotta spend November and December in Buffalo. No thanks, Um,
Real news are fake news, Doug. The state of New
Jersey now has a law that regulates in taxas daily
fantasy sports. I'm gonna say real news there and they're spectacular. Yes,

(37:57):
it is Chris Christie, the governor's signing it into law today.
It's expected the taxes could bring more than six point
five million dollars to the state. It's the big companies
that run daily fantasy games in the state of New
Jersey that will have their winnings tax at ten point
five percent. But daily Fantasy gonna make some money for
the state of New Jersey. Well, look, that's why gambling

(38:17):
will ultimately become legal, you know. That's why that you
know that somebody won the powerball for over seven million
dollars yesterday in Massachusetts. For a long time, states wouldn't
allow a lottery because they had their morals and they're like, wait,
we got our morals. We gotta wait, it's we have
how much money for our schools? Okay, sure we'll do it.
Um you know. And look, it's the same thing with

(38:37):
with the legalization of marijuana. What we haven't suddenly changed,
our morals have changed slightly. But a lot of it
is you can tax it. And if you can look
at what Colorado is doing in terms of the amount
of tax revenue generated by the legalization and sale of marijuana. Uh,
sports gambling is the is the next moral to fall.
One of my favorite things of doing research was the

(38:58):
line that said high schools sports um in Daily Fantasy
aren't allowed good good because I was gonna bet on
the Lincoln Washington East Side game coming up on tomorrow.
Real News are fake news, Doug. Finally, John Ramos took
his wife Suzanne to front row seats to see Selene
Dion in Las Vegas in concert on their tenth wedding anniversary.

(39:18):
I'm gonna go Real News. You are fake No, John,
John doesn't take her anywhere, so that is I can
barely pay for Donnie Marie. He's gonna see Donnie Brooke
in Vegas. I think next week. Oh, that is game time.

(39:40):
This is game time on the Dug god Leave Show.
The first concert I ever tended wasn't since City. It
was I went with my parents with Jeffrey Osborne like
ten years alright, Jeffrey Osborne, can you can you woo woo?
Can you wo wo woo? You should be mine? All right?
That's enough of my Jeffrey Osborne. Uh. He also Jeffrey

(40:03):
Osmen was also when the going gets tiff, tiff, get
you in right. Uh. My grandpa used to stay at
the dunes. That's Billy Ocean. Sorry, Billy Ocean, my bad.
Billy Ocean is one of those guys that when he spoke,
he spoke with a with a thick like British accent,
and then all of a sudden, he sing and he
sounds like America. That was weird. There's a lot of
dumb people like me in this world, but it's even

(40:25):
dumber to give them a platform. I'll share that with you. Next,
What up stuck Ottleeve Show, Fox Sports Radio coming to
you a live from sin City, Las Vegas, sight of
Mayweather McGregor. A man Brian Kenny, who is a boxing
expert and also works for the MLB Network will join us.

(40:46):
Some fireworks in Detroit, Yankees and uh Tigers scrapping. We'll
get to that in about fifteen minutes. Look, one of
the one of the great things about social media is
a bad thing about social medi be it's that we
see a snapshot of society. We can see into real life.
Like so I've brought this up. So many of the

(41:09):
things that people have reacted to sometimes protested are, um,
you know, Facebook lives or periscopes of things to which
you think you're seeing something live as it unfolds, because
it's live as it unfolds, but it's from only one perspective.
And it's also important to remember that things that are

(41:29):
recorded and then played on Facebook or wherever you get
your social media. The great thing about it is anyone
can go on Facebook live and talk about any topic.
It's a lot like a podcast. Anybody can have them.
You can have a podcast, can you get anybody to download?
And what I've learned whenever you tweet something out that

(41:52):
it might be a dumb teat like, oh man, I'd
like to take that back because all it takes is
one retweet and then it's out of your control. Then
it spreads like wildfire, and it takes that one moment
that one thought, no matter who it is, and it
can be reacted to. Um. Apparently there was some posts

(42:16):
on Twitter of a Celtics fan burning as Isaiah thomas jersey.
Now look, I don't know what's dumber being an adult
male and buying and wearing some other younger adult males
number likeness, name and uniform um or and burning it,

(42:40):
or the fact that you would burn somebody's jersey who
has traded away like Isaiah Thomas. He may have his
flaws as a player, but he kind of gave his
guts to that team, did you not? So the idea
that somebody's gonna buy a jersey, and look, I'm not
jersey guy. I will buy my My son has plenty
of football and basketball jersey's whatever, like, he wears those.

(43:02):
It's one of the reasons I don't want to take
him out of private public school. I'm not, do you.
I swear jerseys every day? Why not? A great jersey collection?
But but I don't. I don't walk around wearing a jersey.
I go to sports games. I'm not. I'm not a
jersey guy. And yeah, I'll be a little bit critical
of jersey guy. It's okay to wear a hat and

(43:25):
a T shirt and the colors of your team once
you start getting unless you want to be creative with it, right, Like,
if you're a Jets fan, if you get a Joe
Kleco jersey that I can get down with. You know,
if you're a Charger Van, you wear a Lance all
Worth throwback that I can dance out, that I can
get down with. If you're a Boston Celtics stand you're
wearing a Larry Bird jersey or a Bill Wolton back

(43:48):
when we right, or a uh cornbread Maxwell jersey, John
havevill Check jersey, Like I can get down with that
more so than a grown man wearing an Isaiah Thomas jersey.
But even the guy's like, look, that's how you want
to wear your team where the new jersey support your guy? Cool?
And then you're gonna burn it. Okay, then you're gonna

(44:09):
burn it because he was traded away. Like that's silly,
it's nonsensical. But if one person does it, should you
really engage? Right, that doesn't speak to the masses. Even
when Lebron James left Cleveland the first time, because everybody
thinks he's gonna leave the second time, and there were

(44:30):
people burning his jerseys. That wasn't thousands of people. It
wasn't like the book burning in Berlin, Right, That's not
what it was like. It was some idiots burning his jersey.
And oh yeah, by the way, he did leave in
his own volition. He did leave as a free agent,
and as he was able to raise two million dollars

(44:50):
for I can defend him on and on the point
is that we take one tweet and it becomes much
bigger than it was. We take one action, it becomes
This is one of the issues with some of the protests.
I'm not saying police brutality doesn't exist. And having not
grown up black, I don't know. I can tell you

(45:12):
I've been treated poorly by police officers. Like look, white
people get treated batted by by police officers too, maybe
not the same percentage, maybe, And because of the arrest rates,
it doesn't feel the same, and that that would be
there's statistical analysis that would be totally fair. On the
other hand, like I think if you if you take

(45:34):
a snapshot of anyone arrest, it will depend on that
one person at that one particular moment in time. And
sometimes we reacted to one thing and thought that spoke
to all cops or that spoke to all members of
the military. Remember the Abu Grave pictures, like not every
member of the military was demeaning with photos and torturing

(45:58):
captured prisoners. Yeah, so Lebron James did what I I
personally personally think he should be above. They say that
in in some in media those they don't punch down, right,
don't punch down, punch up, And there's nowhere to punch
up for Lebron James, other than maybe the tops of corporations,

(46:21):
But he tweets out the burning of the of the
jersey thing is getting ridiculous. Now the man was traded.
Why do you not understand playing the game after sister's
tragic death. Gordon Hayward paid his dues as well. He's
decided what's best for his family, putting the work and
got better, became an All Star, etcetera, etcetera. He goes on,
he's giving a voice to people who don't deserve his voice,

(46:44):
don't deserve his platform. He's Lebron James. Dude, Lebron, don't
punch down. Anytime you read tweet a story about a
burning jersey. Now I'm like, what burning jersey? What was it?
Now I'm searching out to see exactly what took place.
It's like when Shack and even MJ responded to LaVar Ball,

(47:06):
I like, look at least LaVar Ball is a name,
is a personality. Some dude on Twitter is not some guy.
And it doesn't matter if you have an egg or
actually have uh your likeness as your avatar. The fact
is that to the rest of the world you are
an egg. You're an egg. You don't matter to Lebron James.

(47:27):
You shouldn't matter, and he shouldn't take it to be
some there's some huge movement to burn guys jerseys when
they leave teams just because one guy did it. One
guy did it. He's a dope. You can make fun
of him multiple loves. First, you're dominant to buy a jersey. Second,
you're dominant to buy the Isaiah Thomas jersey. Third, it
was an Isaiah Thomas jersey. Shouldn't be an extra small

(47:48):
and its extra small does a fit you? And fourth,
maybe most importantly, although you buy a new jersey, burning
a jersey of a dude who got traded away like
that's the dumbest thing ever. But you know what you
don't do don't tweet about it and give it Lebron
Jay his voice that gives it some sort of credibility,
whether or not you think he's the greatest player you've
ever seen or not. Like he also can't Superman and

(48:13):
Batman didn't go. They don't go and solve every little problem.
They just don't like Batman has the bat logo, all right,
but don't call there's a cat in a tree. Don't
call Batman for that call Batman for when Gotham is
about to fall. All right, I'll go down to the cave.
I'll get in the car, I'll get in the chopper,
I'll get in the Humby, and I'll come save Gotha.

(48:35):
I don't call me for everything. Like Superman is working,
like he's working there at the desk at the Daily Planet. Right,
it's got the glasses on. Do you think he reads
the babies? Like, oh, man, there was a robbery over
in Times Square. I gotta go fix it. No, Superman
only handles the big problems. If your Lebron James, you
have to think of it as your Batman. You're Superman

(48:59):
when you when you need me, come get me. Otherwise
I'll be hanging out at the Mansion. I'll be hanging
out the man alright. Coming up next, Brian Kenny is
going to be our guest works for the MLB Network.
Did you see something that had never happened before? Baseball? Like, look,
I don't like these when you have to find something

(49:20):
clever to say it hadn't happened, And like one of
the things I don't like about kind of the new
age sports centers yet to find a stat to validate
something that happened in the game that hasn't happened the
last eighteen years, but major League Baseball has been around
for a long time, over a hundred years. Something happened
in Major League Baseball last night that has never happened before, ever, ever,

(49:46):
and it happened against a team that is on pace
to have the best record in the history of the sport,
the most wins in the history of the sport in
the regular season. We'll ask Brian Kenny to give us
context on it and exactly how good are the Dodgers.

(50:08):
That's upcoming next, but first, on Saturday, August the fight
world's two biggest titans will clash. The undefeated, the legendary,
the best pound for pound boxer on the planet, the
King of the ring Floyd Money. Mayweather collides with the
UFCS lightweight champion, the best striker in the business, the
king of the octagon, the notorious Connor McGregor. What happens

(50:28):
when the greatest boxer of our generation steps into the
ring with one of the world's most dangerous men in
a battle of the biggest names in the business. It's
boxing's best meets the master of mixed martial arts in
an unprecedented matchup. When perfection meets power, something has to give,
as these these two face off in one of the
most anticipated fights in history. Will Floyd Mayweather Jr. At

(50:50):
forty nine and oh with knockouts remain undefeated? Can the
mm A superstar Connor McGregor silence his critics with just
one punch? Orthodox versus South Palm, perfection versus power, confidence
versus experience? Who will reign supreme? Mayweather and McGregor face
off in a boxing match for the ages. Mayweather versus

(51:12):
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(51:44):
brawl just took place in uh Detroit. We kind of
caught you up on and uh uh mcgueltaja it it
uh it kind of felt like he's Mickey felt like
he started it. I mean, did say Miguel Teja my bad.
I went to old school on you. Uh sorry about
that one. I'm I'm watching the brawl play over and

(52:06):
over and over again. Um, Miguel Cabrera. Miguel Cabrera got
into it with Austin Roman. They started jawing. Roman took
off his mask and that's when Cabrera stole on him.
Went went a little combo left right, didn't hit him
with the right, did hit him with the left jab

(52:26):
and all you know what broke loose. And people are
being critical of Gary Sanchez, who's the other catcher for
the Yankees, coming out of the coming out Um from
the dugout, and while Cabrera is being held down, he
comes in lands a punch. Al right, now, look this
might not be comfortable to any of you, but I'll

(52:48):
just tell you I fight dirty. Okay, don't care, we're
in a fight. I fight dirty. I bring this up because, uh,
one of the things that drew me away from laying
pick up ass. But I love playing basketball and I
used to always play at this h six am or
seven am game. Sometimes they play at nine. You drip

(53:09):
nine o'clock, you drop off your kids, you go play ball,
then you go to work. Obviously, my workday schedule not
not terrible, especially when you're in southern California. So I
played with a group of guys and uh, one guy
who I did not know, was talking all kinds of trash.
He's playing good the game before me, and I took
that as a challenge. I lit him up, and he

(53:31):
got really upset that I lit him up, and so
he wanted to guard me the next games our gardening.
The next game, and when I went by him going
up for a layup, you protect the ball, You're going
up your left hand to protect ball your right hand.
I happen to catch him with a bow in the face. Now,
if you know basketball, basketball actually use a contact sport,
not a collision sport. It's contact sport. And in case

(53:52):
you catch a bow in the face, Uh, this proceeded
where he everybody just got ramped up in terms of
the trash talking and see, and another guy on his
team actually took a swing at me, and I felt
like I had to defend myself and I was tackling
him as he was trying to punch me on the sides,
and so I upper cuttit him to his male region.

(54:14):
And when that didn't work. I grabbed him in his
nail male region and twisted. Then you know what he
got off of me. He was bigger than me. And
if I dirty, and I bring this up because uh,
Gary Sanchez, y has dirty thing to come in of
the out of the dugout and try and land a
haymaker on the other and the only hand. It's a brawl.

(54:34):
It's not like a brawl and anchor man where you
say not nothing above the neck and nothing below the waist.
Ryan Sanchez hit a home run and Sanchez today Sanchez
been thrown at, So I'm sure that's why Sanchez wanted
to get in on the brawl. But he got in
on the brawl with with Miguel Cabrera. We're joined now

(54:56):
by Brian Kenny. You can see on the MLB network
course also here I'm covering boxing. We got a bunch
of stuff to to talk to you about. Um, really good, bra.
I don't know if you saw on your phone Yankees Tigers.
See Gary Sanchez came out of the dug out of
his hill, landed a punch. Uh. Miguel Cabrera, who's kind
of being held back as Austin Roman was trying to
was trying to fight him, and I said, hey, like

(55:17):
it's a brawl. I didn't. I don't really do you
have is there's certain things you're not supposed to. You're
not allowed to bring the chair out of a duck.
The folding chair is no good dug. We know we
know this that that's bush leak. But no, you're supposed to.
From all these guys that I work with at MLB Network,
they often tell you, like what it comes down to
his square up. So so actually among these crazy unwritten rules,

(55:37):
these you know, the rules of the jungle and the
playground that these guys observed, you're supposed to square up
with one guy and that's your guy, and then you've
got a guy, and that's what you're supposed to do. Yeah,
So sucker punching or running in from the outside is
is is a breach of protocol? Shall we say? All right?
Breach of protocol? What about sanch Mr August Gary Sanchez?
I mean he's the numbers in August, last August numbers

(55:58):
this August are are ridiculous and it's it's covering up holidays. Uh.
Terrible second half of the season with the injury and
the weird illness in Oakland Judges, you know, doing the
windmill with all the strikeout, still hitting the home runs.
What are your thoughts on the Yankees, who as of
today would be in the playoffs but are not nearly
what we thought they would be, maybe going back to

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three months ago, right, I know, I really like the
trade that they made too. I like the trade with
the White Sox to bolster things to get Fraser robertson
kine Lee. I think they're it's it's strange they're only
what like two and a half up or whatever it
was when I got on my plane last night over
the Twins. I mean, and because that's all wild Card,
that's a lot of mediocrity. You gotta be able to
beat those teams. I mean, look at the run deferential

(56:40):
it's crazy that that they're even in the discussion. The
Yankees are a plus one and the Twins are minus
thirty three and non differential for the season. It's a
it's really you can go the that's baseball and losing
and winning one run games. But the Yankees should be
a lot better than their record would tell you right now.
And I think they are going to be. And it's
even get into deeper into the weeds. They also sunny gray, right,

(57:03):
Hime Garcia. I mean they added innings. They should be
able to put away the top wild card spot pretty easily.
I think that the lesson we learned with Sanchez and
Judge is small sample size theater, right, like in any window,
the best player, with the exception of the best player
in the game, they go through these like low ends,
you know, slumps, and they'll go through these hard charges,

(57:23):
just like why are there's why are their playoff heroes?
Mark Lemkey, duh? You know Dusty Rhodes. Because in a
one week period, anybody who was good enough to play
in the major leagues can tear it up. So, yeah,
Sanchez is hot, and you know Judges relearning readjusting the
slider is killing him. He'll likely make those adjustments. He
has a high baseball I you and you have to

(57:44):
look at the totality. But guys will rise and fall
all the time. Um, micro has played eighty two games?
How many does he have? Can he play enough games
to win the m v P? Because this you can
make the argument this is his best season. Yeah, oh
it is. It's I mean statistically and you know, um percentage. Yes,
I mean there's like a four fifty on base seven
hundred slugging, he's a monster. Um. Yes, volume does matter. Um.

(58:08):
I'm not against give it a guy, you know, a
hundred and twenty games, maybe that's where he lands under
twenty five, but you gotta be much better. I would
probably favor Jose Altuve, who has played the full season,
But I don't using wins above replacement, right, people, you
know it's a rally or war, what do you do? Well,
that's a good economic model. It's a good way to say,
how do you judge a great guy at a hundred

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and twenty games and a very very very good guy
at a hundred and fifty five games. Well, wins above
replacement helps you do that. And if at the end
of the season Mike Trout leads the American League in war,
I tell you what, it's a good indication he's played
enough well. But but I look, Altos wins above replacement
and it depends which calculation you use Baseball Reference, war

(58:50):
is lower than than Altva. Like my argument against al
Tuve would simply be, look at the lineup that he's
surrounded by, and you can't I know, you, I know
you baseball guys, Like you mean you mean to tell
me you think it's easier to pitch to it. It's
the same pitching now, Josea duve in that lineup with Gonzalez,
with Reddick, with Springer, um with with Carlos Corea as

(59:13):
opposed to against I mean Handalton Simmons, who I didn't
know he I don't even know he could hit like
he just he didn't know either, but he can now.
He's the second best hitter for the Angels this year.
He's been pretty good. He's been very good. But but again,
if that's your second best hitter in compared and I
mean pauls is a shell of himself. C J. Crone, Like,

(59:33):
that's what you're throwing out in comparison with what and
what's you're throwing out in comparison to the Astros. Well,
I will tell you this, you're a man of science,
a man of logic. Yes, we've known each other a
long time. What they have found, they what they have
found is protection in the lineup has a minimal effect.
I know, it seems like it doesn't a lot of

(59:54):
things don't seem like they're happening. You know in physics,
and yet they are. And so yeah, when you're thinking, hey,
I could pitch around this guy and get to this guy,
that's gonna happen all the time. Well he might draw
more walks, Like was it last year that Mike Trout
had an insane amount of walks in a four forty
on base? So yeah, that's what was happening to him.
So it can happen, but on the buy and large,
it really is a minimal effect. He got Reddick behind you.

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You don't mean tell me that he's seeing better. It's
Reddick is very good. You know he's good. But come on,
that's what do you say, is Louke Garig? He's good.
It's it's a good lineup top to bottom. Do you
remember the Josh Reddick that were a Dodgers uniform? Do
you remember that guy? How did that that guy frighten you?
The logical? Let me ask you about the Dodgers. Something
happened in baseball last night that has never happened before.

(01:00:39):
Oh the no hitter thing? Yeah, I mean rich rich
Hill first perfect game, then he has the no hitter
into the tenth inning. He thought, did you think he
was going out there for the tent. I was on
the plane, so I wasn't watching it. I didn't. So
he goes out there. You Landine pitches at through nine,
goes out there for the tenth inning and gives up
a walk off home run, loses the game on the
one hit he gives up. And who was playing who

(01:01:01):
was playing in center field? I think it was? Was it?
No is? Uh? I think Granderson playing in left field
nearly made an unbelievable running catch. I mean missed it
by maybe a yard and they you hit it? Um,
What's what's the one thing in baseball that you've seen
happen once that had never happened before you study this thing?
Is there? Is there anything you can think of? You're
sitting at that desk MLB Network because last night they

(01:01:24):
actually they actually went an interview to Harrison after the
game and said, Hey, uh, Josh Harrison, you realize you
did something that no one else in baseball has ever done,
walk off home run to break up a no hitter
in the tenth inning. Can you remember ever being on
set at either the two places? Huh? Not anything like that.
The most stunning things I've seen in baseball was on

(01:01:46):
the last day of the regular season couple of years back,
the Rays and the Red Sox losing was like, how
is this happening? This confluence of forces. The other one
was Nelson Cruz going back to the Texas Rangers Game
six of the World Series. Remember it was David Free
triple and the Cardinals came back and wanted like that
was the most stunning one away twice that the Cards
were one sty away from losing or Arrangers from winning

(01:02:08):
the World Series. Right, that was That's about stunning. But
as far but there are that is the beauty of
the game is flukey weird things like that do happen.
And by the way, like we were so obsessed with
no hitters, like you know, I don't know the variant
of the batted ball. I know this is very you know,
I know, hre's no Hitre's wildly overrated. Like I think
what Manny Machado did last week where he had three
home runs and the third of which was a walk

(01:02:29):
off grand slam, Like that's better than anything any George
Springer taking back over from over the wall what would
have been a walk off grand slam and ending the game.
He did that for the Astros, like two years ago, like, yeah,
there's phenomenal things that are just better than the flukey
now in perfect game. Okay, now you're you're selling me
a little bit more. But a no hitter with a

(01:02:51):
couple of guys on base, that goes back to the
nineteen centuries. I write my book Ahead of the Curve,
available on paperback. Now it's in my car, one of
the ones I gotta get, really have to get to it.
I know I've heard this, but that's where I said.
All these things come from the nineteenth century, where walks
were the problem of the picture, not the skill of
the hitter, which we know is not true. So that's
why we love no hitters to this day. It's just right.

(01:03:11):
They they're fun. But there, as you say, wildly overvalued. Um, okay,
in baseball, the guys have fen you know, we figured
they've figured it out in baseball that forget about as
you've said, don't ever bunt, don't ever bunt. Guys have
stopped bunting. Ever, for the most part, putting together a
rally is too difficult. And so when you look this year,

(01:03:32):
was it thirty four percent of the time it's either uh,
strikeout or home run or strikeout, walk or home run, right,
So you don't need anybody else on the field, and
so the home run numbers are way up the strike
all time, the strikeout numbers are way up a time,
runs being scored are up as well. Right, Okay, but

(01:03:52):
so you have all these things being up. Analytics kind
of guys finally getting smart about like what are we
doing trying to get these forget about choking up and
trying to punch one right swing for the veences boys.
It's it's a much more efficient way to play. That's
but it's really hard to watch. Yeah, no doing where
every This is almost like three point shooting in the NBA.
Just because something is efficient doesn't mean it's good for

(01:04:13):
the game. So you're right, and that that was your
correct word, was efficient. It's the best way to score
runs is to know your strike zone. These young guys
know the strike zone. They have it cold. They really
do know what they'll take their base. But when the
ball is in the zone, they will attack with viciousness.
So when they do that, they're looking to hit one out,
not looking for singles. And you know what, strikeout is
only a little worse than a ground out. We we

(01:04:35):
know this now, so they're reacting properly. Then the question
is what does Major League Baseball do about it? When
I think you gotta do, you gotta do something about it?
Do you move the fences back? Might defenses might be mound,
might be mound lower, might be mound back. I know
that's like people like lose their minds when I say
you can move the mound back. But by the way,
if it was the nineteenth century, they moved the mound
forward and back all the time. So it can be done,

(01:04:57):
and it might take. You might have to change the bats.
You can't allow these guys to have these tiny bats
with the big cudgel. At the end, you you're going
to have to do something drastic to get the ball
back and play. Are the Are the Dodgers as good
as their record would tell you? Yeah? No, look it
is what it is. I have trouble wrapping my head
around that too, like how are they better than the
seventy But not just that, but but like the thing

(01:05:19):
of me just having watched I'm like one of the
few people in California that can watch I can actually
watch the Dodger game is and I listened to all
of them is thirty eight come from behind winds gives
me makes me super queasy about the postseason. So there's
the historical Are they really that good? You have so
many guys who feel like they've gone to the miners
and figured things out. Uh, and then you have the

(01:05:41):
just the reality of thirty eight times coming from behind,
Like at some point that magic wears out. It's been
just find a way to win games. Contextualize the Dodgers
and what they've done from twenty one and eighteen to
now eighty nine and thirty six. It's obscene this run,
but it but it is real. Um, the run different,
she says. So they're not getting win lucky. I think

(01:06:03):
what they are is they are so much deeper than
everybody else they have. They throw so much quality at you.
They probably are more like the two thousand one Mariners,
which was a great team but with a rotation that
was high end but low volume. Their fragile and they're
best players are guys like Turner, who we you know,
is thirty two years old, and uh, Chris Taylor, who

(01:06:23):
we never heard of before this year is terrib Last
year when he get called and he's playing five positions
and he's tearing so but that that Mariner team, by
the way, John ol Rude, Edgar Martinez, Brett Boone. Each
year Row right, like nobody's in the Hall of Fame.
Yet each Yearrow we'll get there. But but you know
what I mean. But then the Freddy Garcia had a
great year, Aaron Sealey, you know of who's a soft
left hander for the Rocky, Jamie Moyer had a great year.

(01:06:44):
So like in the context stuff that season, they were
all very very good. Maybe that's what this Dodgers team is.
But I don't I think we should be making a
bigger deal about it. They're better than the twenties seven
Yankees were at the same point in the season. We
got it. We'renna talk boxing with you in a second,
Brian Kenny Winning s you'll be here covering the Fox
pre limbs, the pre limbs of the fights on Saturday
on Fox. But I I've said this to people, like

(01:07:07):
having just moved back from New York City to southern California,
I hope you people understand that if the Yankees hadn't
won a World Series since eighty eight, and then they're
on pace to have the best record in the history
of baseball. It would be a much bigger thing, but
it's the Dodgers, and I can't figure out why it's
not that big a thing. I did. I did a
rant on MLB Network on that yesterday, and I think one,

(01:07:29):
we have trouble wrapping our heads around it. Uh one,
because you actually brought up TV, like how big is it?
In their own network? The TV deal still hurts them. Um,
it is West coast. We have an East Coast bias.
That's where most of the audience TV audience is, and
the media still is um And the other part, I
think the way it played out, we just got used
to the Cubs being the super team and then this

(01:07:52):
year we have a very you know, premisey bias. That
anchoring is powerful. So this year the I think the
Astros got off to our forty two and seventeen start,
the Nationals were like twenty games over five hundred. So
we had all these super teams and we have the
Cubs in our minds and there's the little Dodgers starting
eleven and twelve. Then they shoot past everyone and we
can't wrap our like, we can't digest that yet. So

(01:08:13):
I think you're right, like We've got to get on
this morn and say, hey, by the way, twenty seven Yankees,
thirty nine Yankees, sixty one Yankees, seventy five Reds, seventy Orioles.
The Dodgers are better than all of those teams at
this point. In the same point in the season, Brian
Kenny will find out what he thinks of how legitimate
a fight. The main event is in a moment, but
first let's find out what's trending. Doug Gottlib Show, Fox

(01:08:38):
Sports Radio Live in Las Vegas, so Uh, fifteen years ago,
fifteen years ago, at the so Con Conference tournament, I
was paired with Brian Kenny, and we're driving around Charleston,
South Carolina, which is an unbelievable city. It's like one
of those I had no idea this place existed on Earth,
and how do I get back here? Anyway? And we
were talking in and uh. Brian Kenny, by the way,

(01:09:00):
is working for Fox Sports, that blow by blow announcer
for Mayweather McGregor pre Limbs on Fox this Saturday night
seven pm, starting at seven pm Eastern time. And among
the things we discussed on those couple of days that
we were together was this was the sweet science of boxing.
And also the fact that you said, I have all

(01:09:20):
these big ideas and thoughts and I got to get
the hell out Oklahoma City. For well, I wondered how
we were talking politics for a while. Truth be told,
we're talking social issues and politics. And I said, you're
saying this on your radio station at Oklahoma City. I go,
you gotta get out of there. I know, I know
this can't happen because of the de la Hoya and

(01:09:41):
the Mayweather camps. But like my romantic image of what
should happen Saturday is the triple G Canelo fight be
the code. Just give me two fights, give me that
one and give me the Mayweather McGregor. So I got
a legit, big time championship fight, and then I have
this kind of circus where nobody really knows. Everybody thinks

(01:10:02):
they know what's gonna happen. They don't know what's gonna happen.
I don't know that that's I would. I mean, I
think you could charge to fifty a pop and people
would buy that thing. No prelims even needed. Well, here's
what it is. It's like economic necessity. They didn't need it.
Like this fight has transcended not just combat sports, but
sports like you. I'm sure this like dominates a good

(01:10:23):
part of your day. I can't tell you how many people.
I can't go anywhere without someone. So what do you
think about the fight? And I don't even have to
ask them what fight it is? Or do you think
he has a shot? You know, like it doesn't stop,
so everyone wants to know. Everyone is thrilled with this fight.
For whatever reason, it ignited this like incredible amount of interest.
So they really don't need to cater to the purists, Like, look,

(01:10:43):
Javante Davis is actually an excellent fighter. He's got a
world title at a hundred and thirty pounds. He's great.
You'll love watching him if you pay your hundred bucks
or if you're gonna be watching it inside. But they
didn't need to put like some I'm Shan Porter was
on the Fox card and he bout out and Shaan
Porter's world class in a former champ, so I'm gonna
CBS fight fought of Barclays always like fight of the

(01:11:03):
Year stuff. He's legit, he's like one of the top
welter weights. But he bowed out personal reasons, so they
had a real you know that real champ like basically
on the card. But they didn't need to. You remember
when Floyd actually they had uh Danny Garcia, Lucas Matisse
was on the undercard, uh Canelo and Floyd, and that
made it a blockbuster. So I'm with you, can you
give us another great fight? But I don't think they

(01:11:25):
felt it was necessary. Um, okay, is this like you're
a boxer and boxing officionado and you're calling You're calling
these fights like from a boxing perspective, Most boxing guys
like no shot? Is it no shot? Or is it?
As we know, even in our study of baseball, everything
is about probability, right, and so the probability obviously is low.

(01:11:48):
Floyd has been on a steady diet of world class
competition for twenty five years. Connor like maybe has a
brush with it with like some of his boys back
in Ireland, you know, like Stevie Collins and his brother
and a couple of other guys that can give him
that type of work in boxing. Um, but the guy's
heart is in boxing. He was trained coming up as
a boxer. He fights M M A as a boxer basically. Um,

(01:12:08):
So it's while it's very unlikely. I tell you what.
Looking at his preparation and the way he's going about it,
it's not like he has no chance because if he
goes in and doesn't expend his energy, doesn't try to
out jab Floyd and just waits for his spot. I
tell you what, there is a path to where he

(01:12:29):
could hit and hurt a forty year old guy who's
been retired two years. Yes, it's possible, and only because
the McGregor has not gotten an extra boxing trainer to say, hey,
teach me how to box. He says, I'm gonna I'm
gonna fight the way I normally fight, and it's much
better better to go in totally unorthodox and don't give
Floyd a conventional fighter to fight, because that's what he's

(01:12:50):
always gone against. Yes, and if you go in like
Sugar Shane Moseley style, or you go in like even
like Frankie Yeger is an m M, a guy who
boxes boxes very well, Frankieger would just get outboxed by Floyd.
Whatever Frankie Egger does, and he does it really well,
Floyd does better. But Connor going in and actually, if
the best thing that can happen is Connor walks in
and stands in front of Floyd and just stands there
and doesn't throw a punch. Wait and see what happens.

(01:13:13):
Engage a little bit, wait for a counter because if
he goes in, hey, let me jamb with him. Let
me see if I can throw a five punch combination.
You're not gonna do that to Floyd. It's not gonna happen.
But his chance of truck waiting for an opening, sliding
in and fighting unconventionally for one night, it's possible. Brian
Kenny joining us, you will hear him working for Fox

(01:13:33):
Sports blow by blow announcer for the Mayweather McGregor prelimbs,
live on Fox this Saturday night, talking starting at seven
o'clock Eastern Time. I have long contended that the true
genius outside of the genius in the ring of Floyd Mayweather,
is in at least the last six seven, maybe even
decade years, has been the selection of who he's gonna
fight and when he's going to fight them, right Canello

(01:13:55):
on the way up, before Canello was was was refined
and u uh and pakiow as you called him on,
he delayed, delayed, delayed, and by the time he fought
Manny Paciao. He was a shell of his former champion self. Correct,
isn't that what this is? He yes, it's let me

(01:14:17):
make whatever, A hundred and fifty million dollars against against
not Keith Thurman, much smarter a guy making his pro
debut again. Of course, why do we all buy in?
Why like we all like, yeah, well here, It's like people,
you walked away from the Pacquiao thing saying I was
con damn it, I'm never ye one again, not again.

(01:14:39):
And then you're gonna be sitting right, people a gonna
be sitting around Saturday night and their wives gonna be like,
remember last time, Connor Man. You don't understand he has
belief he can do it. You don't know the power
of the Irish rite all this stuff. You're right, but
look Floyd at one point was had eight title defenses
at a hundred and thirty pounds eight and remember he

(01:15:00):
complained about his slave contract. It was like a leven
point five million, if I'm correct, from HBO, and so
Floyd back then felt the sting of being great, being
one of the top pound for pound for pound fighters
in the sport in the world, and yet the money
was not flowing in. So what he learned as of
the Arturo Gaddy fight was let me pick a guy

(01:15:22):
that y'all love and make you hate me. And that
works beautifully to this very day. Because why is this
really selling? It's really selling because people want to see
Floyd get beat. That's what they want to see. He's
built that he played. He learned to play the heel.
He was not the heel his whole career. He was
pretty boy Floyd and he was like, I'm just gonna
be sugar Ray Leonard, this is gonna be great. And

(01:15:43):
then he learned, I'm not getting rich. I'm getting paid,
but I'm not getting rich. He's learned how to get rich.
Is he like? I mean, we some of some people
describe him as the greatest fighter of our generation. You
have a much greater perspective on how good Floyd Mayweather
historically you would be should be viewed as he deserves
to be in the conversation, he deserves to right. But

(01:16:06):
if if you put him in the middle of the
nineteen eighties, is he able to go through Ray Leonard,
Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, I don't think he's able to
go through that without a loss. However, I think his
boxing skill would make him a dominant world champion in
any era. I'm talking from turn of the previous century

(01:16:27):
all through the decades. He could fight and box anybody.
He could box Sugar Ray Robinson and he might win
at his peak because you can't take that skill away
from him, and he can buy he could. He would
be the guy in the forties and fifties that would
also fight fifteen times in a year. He could do anything,
any era, any style. Now, the greatest fighter I've ever
seen with my own eyes is Roy Jones Jr. So

(01:16:48):
he's not the greatest that I've even ever seen, And
yet I can't say he doesn't deserve to be a
pound for pound all time great even when I say
eight title defenses at a thirty pounds like Hagler had twelve,
and that was his bay, you know, his the standard
of his career. So even what he did before he
got super famous and super rich, you know it was
he was already a Hall of Famer just from what

(01:17:08):
he did there. So yeah, the truth is somewhere in
the middle. Steph he's Steph Curry, son of of somebody
who was in the sport and he does something which
it's hard to relate to. Would he be one of
the all time greats? I who was in the eighties
when it was when, when when his division was stacked.
But you do have to respect the amount of skill
that he has because if you don't, there's forty nine

(01:17:29):
people who have already met their their boxing maker. It's
gonna be great to hear you on the call it team.
Better to see in person. Uh, give out the book
again and ahead of the curve, ahead of the curves. Right,
it's out there if you want to learn about baseball
and get away from both this bias that you've had.
Let you've sunk into your head because you've been away
from me for souls. Bryan Kenny check them out on
Fox at seven Eastern on Saturday Night. Yesterday, I said

(01:17:50):
they can have Cavs Celtics trade was good for both sides.
Colin Cowhert said, there's one who's not happy about it.
Who's unhappy? Find out Next, this is Doug Gottlieb Show
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(01:18:16):
Fox Sports Radio. Something happened today. I found myself saying
something today that I I any think I would ever say.
Find out what that is at the top of the hour.
Colin cowherd Um is part of our network here at
Fox Sports Radio. So is Dan Patrick, so is uh
Clay Travis, who I think appeared on what CNN and

(01:18:39):
uh he was on Fox News. I know the last
couple of days we had a great lineup, but sometimes
we like to combat the things that they say on
their shows and commented, comment comment about it on our show.
It's something we call and now all right. Colin was
talking about the Kyrie Irving Isaiah Thomas trade. He had

(01:19:03):
this to say, day two. There was a trade in
the NBA yesterday between Cleveland and Boston. Boston got Kyrie Irving,
best player in the trade, and Cleveland got a bunch
of stuff. I find it very interesting when thinking of
Lebron James, that you think he sees the world like
even other NBA stars do, and he does not. The
idea that Lebron is satisfied this morning is absolute lunacy. Folks,

(01:19:27):
it's different for Lebron. He's not just a great actor.
He's running the league. Lebron sees the world differently, because
when you're at the top of it, Hollywood, Wall Street,
you do see the world differently. See this out loud.
Lebron James is satisfied losing the best closer and the
best player he's ever played with. And he's satisfied with

(01:19:48):
an eighteen year old, a five eight and a half
point guard with a bad hip, a bench player in
Jay Crowder because he's not starting over Lebron or Kevin
Love and his seven foot prospect have a hard time
believing this Mo Morning, Lebron Man, he loves what he
just saw. Don't buy it for a second. In fairness,
Lebron James does, I think respect. Isaiah Thomas is a

(01:20:10):
tremendous closer. I believe he's second in the NBA and
fourth quarter scoring UH this past season. And Jay Crowder
does give them some defensive versatility and says it is
a big guy who most people think can play. Can
give him a big off the bench, and it gives
them a trade bond or the possibility of getting Marvin
Bagley in the upcoming draft lottery. So I don't think

(01:20:31):
that we had to be as cynical of what the
Calves got. I think that if Lebron James is smart
and he is about basketball, he realizes this is probably
the best that they could do, and maybe even better
than they thought they would do when Kyrie Irving went
to management and asked for a trade. Alright, updates as

(01:20:56):
of today. As of as of today, Connor mcgrayer is
still the Dog plus four hundred Dog Mayweather minus five
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sun has appeared yet. Thunderstorms last night, thunderstorms in the morning,
but the clouds have parted and the desert is hot
as w O eight money. Mayweather take it on the
notorious Connor McGregor Saturday night on pay per view. Will
preview it for you. How legitimate chances Connor have against

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arguably the best pound for pound fighter of of a
generation of fighters. It's pretty impressive what Floyd's been able
to do not just in uh, the actual result in
the ring, but how he's been able to kind of
manipulate the system to fight the right guy at the
right time and still have full arenas and have even
fuller uh, kiddies, if you will, from the paper, from

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the paper you buys. So we'll get to that upcoming
this hour. Yesterday, there was a demonstration in New York
City Midtown, Manhattan. Have you ever been in Midtown? Like
Midtown is different than the rest of Manhattan. When when
you come to New York City, you're not from New
York and you go to uh, Times Square, that's that's
in the Midtown area, That's where Broadway is. It's very

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there's two things that happened there. Tourists come there and
people in suits. All the networks are based there as well.
But like, look, people live on the Upper East, Lower East,
Upper West, um Soho, Tribeca. You go downtown, there's other
places of business, but it's a weird confluence of big office,

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big office buildings, some high end shopping um, some very
high end retail, and some tourist traps probably in that
in that order. So there's a protest there, which to me,
regardless of the protest. You can get getting in and

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out of New York City if you're by the UH
the FDR Drive which is on the East Side or
the West Side Highway. That's not that bad when you're
not in rush hour. But there is not a time
in the day which you can't go across Manhattan like
this is thin. You go across town and it takes forever.
I mean, the example is I used to when I

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worked in New York City a couple of months ago.
I could drive in and out of the city I
get in minutes. But to get cross town that's another
minutes to go twenty blocks, thirty blocks. It's crazy. So
there's a protest, and look, it's it's not a secret.
New York City is an incredibly liberal city. It is

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one that has been hit with all sorts of strife
because there have been some moments of police of of
suspected accused and some found guilty of police brutality. Um
the I can't breathe that that came from I think
he actually came from Staten Island, but that was from

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New York which led to a ton of protests, which
was picked up by the NBA. But Colin Kaepernick was
supported at a rally more than a thousand people. Chance
from the demonstration included boycott boycott A women's march. Organizer
Tamika Mallory, addressing football fans, said, I don't care how

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long you've been watching football. If they don't stand up
for your children, turn the damn TV off. Now. Look,
I'll point this out, and this is an absolute belief
of mine. Not protesting is not saying anything that happens
is okay. And I have heard NFL players say that,
and I just I think that's incredibly wrong. Just like

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you have the right to protest, you got the right
to not protest and just go about your job. Reverend
Jamal Bryant, how in the world can we call ourselves
the land of the Free, the home of the brave,
and you get villivied and criminalized for just speaking your mind.
I don't believe Colin Kaepernick has been criminalized for speaking
his mind. And though he may have been vilified by some,

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it was also because he was wearing pig socks, he
wore a castro shirt. He said that cops were murderers.
It wasn't. He wasn't taking as much of a conversational
stance as much as a controversial stance, and he did
so during the national anthem, and even then, like let's
let's remember as much as it was a controversy, this

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is forgotten. He was the backup at that point in time.
He still was able to be elevated and became the
starting quarterback for the San Francisco forty Niners. So if
there was this massive black ball league wants him out
of the league conspiracy, well then I had he end
up getting a starting shot ahead of Blame Gabbett with
the San Francisco forty Niners. And if he was so

(01:26:06):
good with the Niners who did not have good talent,
I can't support that he had good talent. And he
did opt out of his contract because they did tell
him he was not part of their plans. Why was
he part of their plans? Maybe Lashawn McCoy, Shady McCoy,
the Buffalo Bills. I couldn't tell us why. It's a

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lot more than just um, he's not he's not on
the team because of if he doesn't want to stand
for natural I think it's worn it. They may have
something to do with it, But I think also that's
a lot. There was his play the certain players that
could be on the team with big distractions, you know,
and it's other players that they're not good enough worthworth it.

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I think his situation is not good enough that so
having on the team with all day the attention that
comes along with it. So what he's saying is not
that the protests are wrong or that he's wrong to protest.
One of the things is that that people end up

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and we do this with the Bible, we do this
with the Constitution, and we definitely do it with uh
with with people's comment commentary. Is we cut it up
and we only take the ones we want right. Well,
it says in the Bible, it says a lot of
things in the Bible. There are a lot of things
that said in the various books of the Bible that
you would not use you could use to counter any

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of your arguments. It says in the Constitution, it says
a lot of things in the Constitution, many of which
are not pointed out. You simply point out the constitutional
amendment which fits your argument. So, look, this is something
I never thought I would say that. Lashawn McCoy, well,

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Sean McCoy, same dude who was allegedive knocked out and
off duty police officer in a bar fight in the
off season. Sean McCoy, who, of course did call Chip
Kelly a racist. Right well, Shan McCoy shady McCoy, super
productive and yet super opinionated, and has had some issues

(01:28:13):
off the football field. He's had his I mean he
had the all women party, didn't he didn't he have
kicked a woman off of his boss or something like that.
It's craziness, like that's It's not a guy who you
normally think you would say this, But August seventeen, I
think Lashan McCoy is the voice of reason here. He
didn't say that the protests have nothing to do with it,

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but he said, like, look, let's contextualize it here. Contact
Kaepernick ain't that good. I've seen him, I played against him.
Like he's fine, he's all right. He ain't that good.
And if he ain't that good and you're you're on
the border of being good enough to be on a
team RAFA team, and you bring attention to which diverts
attention from the places to which coaches in front office

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people want, then they're not gonna sign you. It's more
to it than just the protests and the and the
protests are a portion of it, but it's some of
the things that come with the protest, and it's some
of the things that are just football. I mean, look,
I think speaking out on things in a in an

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interesting perspective, uh, can can help your cost. Then you
have Lebron James who use Twitter to go on a
rant about fans burning Isaiah Thomas and Gordon Hayward jerseys.
Let me just ask you this, did you know before
I just said the sentence that Isaiah Thomas or Gordon
Hayward their jerseys were burned? Ryan Music, you're Abbott on Twitter,

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social media, you cover this thing for a long time.
Were you aware of this existed? I actually had no idea, Okay,
But the reason you know is because Lebron James tweeted
about you like, whoa, whoa, what is this? What is it? Burned?
David Jersey burning party? Right? I would say that from
a producers stand point. If I check Twitter and I

(01:30:01):
just see videos of fans burning Isaiah Thomas or Gordon
Hayward's jersey, I go, wow, those are some dumb fans. Now,
if Lebron James is gonna talk about it. I'm gonna
come to you the morning before the show and go
to look Lebron is responding to these irrational fans, and
then it becomes a thing. Well, it's It's one of
the things about social media, which is somebody says something smart,

(01:30:23):
it can spread like wildfire. Somebody said says something controversial
or dumb, it can equally spread like wildfire, and it
can make it seem like there's more of it than
there actually is. Like I I told you, I'm not
saying that there are no racists in the world, but
these complete these um like the not the white supremacist

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that marched in Boston right, Like that was the perfect example.
It's like a hundred of these I want to be
klansmen inside a park square and there's like forty thousand
people outside the police barrier marching in ounter protest. Now,
if you're on Twitter and people follow something somebody on Twitter,

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they will people will drop him, they'll call you the
worst things on earth. But those aren't real people, and
it's not a real sample size of humanity. For the
most part, humanity has moved on to the forty thousand
outside of the police circling a hundred inside. That's about
the ratio of racist true racist remaining in our country.

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There's still a racial divide. But let's not act like
it's fifty fifty. It's not. It's not. And the more
you perpetuate that fraud, the more you say more you say, look,
I saw it on Twitter. If you lead with I
saw it on Twitter. But I'm kind of done with you,
I kind of you know. It's like somebody when you
get into a car with them an uber drivers, like, hey,

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I want to try something. I saw it on a
cartoon once, Like, I gotta get out of this car.
I gotta got this favorite favorite cartoon growing up. I
told you yesterday what mine was Ramos. You heard that right.
It was Tom and Jerry. No. I like Tom and Jerry.
I like Tom and Jerry a lot. My kids watched
Tom and Jerry Moore, wasn't it Coyote Roadrunner is Cote

(01:32:10):
road Runner, but but it's the road Runner. But I
like the ones where wildly it was wildly Coyote super genius.
I don't know, there's some of them were wildly Coyote
is super genius. I'm wildly Cody is supergeesus me, me me.
Steve Farwood from Showtime join this upcoming next. He's been
covering boxing for forty years. I'll get his thoughts on
Saturday night. Is this good for the sport? This is

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bad for the sport? Is this the end? Is this
the last we will see? Uh? Floyd Mayweather inside a ring?
Because the greatest fighters always get carried out, they don't
walk out. We'll just discuss that upcoming next. But first,
this Saturday August, the world's two biggest titans will clash.

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The undefeated, the legendary, the best bound for bound boxer
on the planet, The king of the ring Floyd Money
Mayweather collides with UFC's lightweight champion and the best striker
in the business, the king of the octagon, the notorious
Connor McGregor. What happens when the greatest boxer of our
generation steps into the ring with one of the world's
most dangerous men in a battle the biggest names in
the business. It's boxing's best meets the master of mixed

(01:33:16):
martial arts in an unprecedented matchup. When perfection meets power,
something has to give. Is these two face off in
one of the most anticipated fights in history. Will Floyd
Mayweather Jr. At forty nine and oh with knockouts remain undefeated?
Can the mm A superstar Connor McGregor silence his critics
with one punch? Orthodox versus South, Pomp, perfection versus power,

(01:33:37):
confidence versus experience. Who will reign supreme? Mayweather McGregor face
off in a boxing match for the ages? Mayweather versus
McGregor August nine, Eastern six Pacific, Live on pay per view.
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We are like everybody says they're on the strip. I

(01:34:20):
never forgot. I gotta tell you guys this story. You
guys don't know this. So Colin and his ex wife
and my wife and I we came here. This is
a man. How old is Olivia? Now? This has to
be I'm gonna say, man, this is probably like twelve
years ago or some he used to have a condo

(01:34:41):
I don't know, about three miles from you, and he's like, oh, yeah,
it's just off the strip, and so I thought it
was one of these. It was well well off the strip.
I'll share with you the the details of my trip
to Vegas with Colin Calherd, who used to be a
broadcaster here. Colin will be in town for the fight
on Saturday, but we're joined by Steve Farhood, who, uh

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he's been How are Steve works for for Showtime Boxing?
Of course, he's the editor in chief, served as the
chief of Ring and Kao magazines and he joins us
here on the Doug Alic Show on on Fox Sports Radio. So, look,
this is what you've done for the better part of
your professional life. You love this sport and it is

(01:35:24):
a sweet science. And um, the more I've learned about it,
the more I've learned that there is a science to it,
there is a method to it. There are adjustments that
can be made in fight that can help a guy win.
With that mind, as a boxing aficionado, when you see
guy has never fought a professional fight before and it's
not truly a boxer. Come in and get a title,

(01:35:45):
get a shot, excuse me, against arguably the greatest pound
for pound fighter in this generation. How does that make
you feel? You know, I don't get angry because the
economics of the situation are what they are. These guys
are making a huge amount of money. There's a obvious
le a tremendous interest in this fight. Otherwise it wouldn't
have happened. So I don't get angry. But I do

(01:36:05):
get angry about one thing, and I think, as as
a top level athlete yourself, you can appreciate this. No
one says I could walk into a batter's box and
hit a fastball. The average fan doesn't say that. He
doesn't say I can go across the middle and catch
a Tom Brady pass and take a hit from a safety,
or I can go one on one with Lebron James.
No one says that. Yet everybody seems to think that
they can box because it's so elemental. We all did it,

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We all fought at some point in our lives. You've
got a guy who's never fought before stepping into the
ring with the best in the world. You wouldn't see
this in any other sport, and his his fan base
thinks that he has a real chance. The odds in
Vegas have told us that. So I think there's a
little bit of pressure on Mayweather to show that what
he does for a living and with the skills he's
mastered just as specific and just as awesome as the

(01:36:49):
skills that in the Roldis Chapman has or Lebron James
or anybody else. I think boxing, the ability the top
level boxers have is sort of not appreciated as much,
and I think this I might show the average fan.
I kind of I kind of agree with you, by
the way, where all this haven't give another run today
Yankees blew another You know, he just has not not

(01:37:10):
the not the Mario. You were better with Mario Rivera
than you were always better with Mario Rivera than going
uh Steve Farhood joining us on the doug Otlip Show. Okay, so, um,
show me the path, Like, what's the path to a
chance that he that McGregor can win? Like, are you
just hoping for the one punch? Was it helped me
out with this? Okay? I have a good have a

(01:37:31):
very good memory. It was isn't that how George Foreman
beat Michael Moore. Wasn't it the one punch? It was?
It isn't it? Isn't that really the hope that he
has that his style is so awkward because it's not conventional.
He's fought against conventional fighters mostly. He never fought against
the guy who holds his hands, who steps and moves
and punches the way he does. I mean he's still
kind of slap punches. He doesn't doesn't really stab his punches.

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That's the hope, right, that it could be the one punch,
and then this is only chance. He's not Alfinese Floyd Mayweather.
And the longer the fight goes, he's not going to
be effective for twelve rounds. Remember the entire timing of
a boxing match. He's all new to him, you know,
he's used to five round five minute rounds, etcetera. Um.
For me, this is the best case scenario for Connor

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McGregor and for everyone else. Come out fast, try to win.
I think he'll do that because he's a champion in
his own right. What does go go go for it
and try to win me and it means throw punches.
I don't care what you look like. I don't care
if you hit air, throw punches, if you get countered,
you get tired, you get stopped in five rounds. You
tried to win. He saves face, he can go back
to his world, and unlike Floyd Mayweather, he is an

(01:38:36):
athletic future because he's only thirty or whatever he is.
Floyd's done, so I think if that happens, Floyd's happy,
he's fifty, and Oh McGregor's happy. He saved face, he
tried to win, and the fans at home who paid
a lot of money on the pay per view are
happy because they were entertained. So that that's the perfect scenario.
But he's gotta go for it. Early you mentioned fifty
and O and as I mentioned, Steve, you were the

(01:38:57):
editor in chief of Ring Magazine and KO mag magazine.
What does it due to his legacy that he's smartly
and financially it's been financially beneficial, but he's smartly manipulated
this thing to He fought Canella before Cannello was ready
to fight him, and he fought pack Yo way after
he should have fought pack Yo. And now he's fighting
a non boxer in what would be his fiftieth and

(01:39:19):
final boxing match, Like, how will that affect how people
like you, true historians of the science view his career. Well,
I don't. I don't rate Floyd maywhether is one of
the greatest five or six or seven fighters in history.
But I do think he's an all ton great. The
reason I don't rate him as high as fighters from
the past is not even his fault. You can't fight

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in today's scenario, in today's boxing world and be and
do what you Sugary Robinson did. Sugary Robinson at one
point was one thirty five and one, and if you
look at the names he fought, he's for nothing but
great fighters for years and years and years. Today, if
our biggest names fight twice in a year, it's a lot.
So it's impossible to accomplish and to build a kind
of resume that the old time fighters did, and that's

(01:40:01):
why they're rated higher than a Mayweather or at de
la Hoya or whoever you choose to to pick from
today's So it's not really only about Floyd. Look, the
most amazing thing to me about Floyd should he go fifty,
you know, is not that he never lost a fight,
but that he won fifty fights mostly against very high
level of opponents and only had about two or three
close fights. That's really remarkable. It is really remarkable my idea,

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And again I understand that the reality of the fight
world is it's about your promoter. So the triple G
fight against Canelo is what that's Oscar's that's been prone
by Oscar de la Hoya. This one's a Mayweather Mayweather production,
and so he could never happen. But for somebody who
loves the sport, and I love my sport of basketball,

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I just there's not a celebration of the sport better
than if you had dual main event, the Triple G
fight first into the money Mayweather fight like that would
have been. You know, you would have gotten a legitimate,
great fight too great fighters, and then you would have
had this I don't know to me that would instead
even don't even have an undercard, you could have charged

(01:41:04):
whatever you wanted for it. I guess is it just finances.
That's why it will never happened. It's finances. But it's
also the nature of the boxing business. It's it's a sport. Unfortunately,
as great as it is and when it's good, I
think it's as good as any sport that shoots itself
in the foot all the time. This is for a
hundreds something years, you know, it's it's not structured. Will
that ever be fixed? Because it has been it has
reappeared on some network TV you do have, there is

(01:41:27):
But like I would challenge people, like I'm a sports fan,
I've done this my job for fifteen years. I don't know.
I don't think I know who the heavyweight champion in
the world is. I'm trying to think who. I don't
know who the right the cat from Alabama, but I
don't think he is. Well, Anthony Joshua is another champ.
When you have more than one champion, there's a problem there, Doug,

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you know, and that that's the world we live in. Yeah,
I mean like, but like we used to have it
in college football where you have the A P and
the and then the coaches or whatever. And Georgia Tech
in Colorado split one year, but there was one champion
at the end of the year. No men's football football,
they split. But I'm what I'm saying, it's like the
heavyweight division not having a dominant champion, not having somebody
American worth watching whatever forever reason that lost our attention.

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I don't know is there any way to get it back. Well,
one thing, we have to understand that the playing field
has changed and it's not about America anymore. That you know,
America dominated the heavyweight division for hundreds something years now,
Anthony Josh was the biggest name in boxing. He drew
ninety thousand people at Wembley Stadium when he fot Klichko.
It's not about America anymore, you know. It's it's a
big world out there. Boxing is big in England, it's

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big in Germany, uh in other places, and it's not
as big in America. It's been a marginalized sport in America.
So we have to accept the fact that there's a
globalization going on as there is in other sports. You know,
show me outside of the William's sisters. Show me an
American female tennis player or or even a male tennis player.
You know, it's it's fast in UFC obviously trying to
expand and go overseas as well. Like that, said's the

(01:42:52):
big part of big part of of their market. Um,
what about combat sports and m m A, how do
you you this in terms of what it will what
it could do. If he gets embarrassed, does it hurt
the legitimacy of UFC. Well, I think there's a good
chance he's gonna lose if he tries to win again,
tries to win, throws a lot of punches, does what

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he can do within his skill set. I don't think
he will be embarrassed. I don't think so. At least
maybe the mm A world will be a little surprised
because they seem to think he has a legitimate chance,
But the rest of the world won't be and it
will be a reconfirmation of boxing and this skill level
that you have to have to be a top boxer.
So I don't think look m m A for me,
for someone my age, I'm sixty years old, it's very generational.

(01:43:35):
I find like forty five and over love boxing, don't
like mm A younger and not so big on boxing,
bigger on mm A. That needs to change for boxing.
I'm not sure how to do it. But boxing can
take a hint from UFC as to how to promote itself.
No question, there's and there's a little And one of
the things that has that that boxing and doesn't have
is even if the guys are fighting less off and

(01:43:55):
they fight a little bit more often. But they also
the best guys fight the best guys more often. Now
they it's they've had trouble building up champions because it
also causes them to lose readily. And they have their
own John Jones just test deposit for steroids after being
declared maybe one of the all time greatsfter one fight
coming off of a cocaine suspensions. Like they got issues. Um,
they got issues of their own. Last thing, Um, I

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look at I look at at this fight, and I'm
trying to figure out why the press conference was so subdued,
Like it went from wild almost like a Jerry Springer
show to really subdued, I guess professional, but a completely
different tone than every other part of the promotion. And

(01:44:40):
then you kind of factor in Floyd has said, well,
you know, I'm my forties now I'm not loss of step.
And then the box, the the glove size changing. I
don't know how much that actually a fact facts thing
was was there was that part of the marketing plan
to be so subdued or they bummed out that there's
not gonna be as many people or the buys, the
ticket prices or why do you think it so subdued yesterday, Well,

(01:45:01):
I think maybe McGregor has his game face on and
the realization has hit him that screaming and getting to
Floyd's face and everything else was great, But now there's
a fight to be to be had and to be held,
and I think that that's sort of affected him a
little bit now. I think Floyd at the press conference
took the lead from McGregor. McGregor spoke first, and McGregor
was very subdued, as you said, So Floyd wasn't gonna

(01:45:22):
start going crazy, you know, there was nothing to respond to.
He wasn't given anything. It's almost like a counterpuncher needs
a punch or two to give him something to work with.
So I was surprised. This is a pay per view fight.
The more buys there are, the more money for those
two guys. Um, they were very subdued, and I'm surprised,
But I think maybe the realization is set in with
Connor McGregor that it's time to it's time to get

(01:45:44):
game face. Has Floyd trained well enough to look, you know,
to look like a dominant fighter if challenged, Well, he's
tried to make it look like he hasn't, but I
think that might have been a marketing ploy. Um. You
can only go by history. Floyd Mayweather has been mentally
and physically focused for every fight of his life. That's
why he's sporting on it all. That's why he's dominated

(01:46:05):
every opponent with Given what he has to lose here
and given that his legacies on the line, because he's
fighting a fighter who is seemingly so inferior, I can't
see him not taking this fully seriously and forty years old, Yes,
will he act as age all of a sudden. That's
McGregor's best chance. You uh, you're you're a historian on this.
If McGregor wins, How big an upset is it? Well,
the odds would tell you it's not that great an upset.

(01:46:27):
To me, it's the biggest upset in sports history, no
doubt about it. Steve Farwood of course Farhoad, Sorry sorry Steve.
Steve Farhood, who, of course you can see on showtime.
He's been an on air analyst for as long as
I can remember and an absolute historian on the sport. Steve,
thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, Doug. I
appreciate it. Thanks for having me on if speaking of fights,

(01:46:48):
we need you to break down the Yankees, Uh Tiger's
brawl which when today? Which today will show it to
you can see if do you like Gary Sanchez coming
out of the dugout throwing a punch to mcguelta. How
who was being held back by somebody else? I don't
want to be the guy having to hold That's that's
very very true. Uh. When will we see Zekey Elliott
back on the field? Find out after we find out

(01:47:10):
what's training? Doug gotta leaves show Fox Sports Radio coming
to you from the city of Las Vegas. Um, was
that Collins quarterback tears that he has he's got who's
and from? Oh? ESPN has their tier of quarterbacks? Um,

(01:47:32):
I'll give you my own kind of tier of quarterbacks.
Will break that down for you before we conclude this
show tomorrow will continue to ramp up. We get ready
not just for the fight, but also for the kickoff
of college football, which occurs this Saturday. So there is
some there is some college football to watch and some
some college football to lay a little bit of cash on. Uh.

(01:47:54):
Two games on Saturday, South Florida. That there's several games
actually on there's two top twenty five games. South Florida
is ranked. That's Charlie Strong leading South Florida and Stanford
taken on Rice. Also there's Oregon State, Colorado State, b
y U playing Hawaii playing so UM. I think there's
four or five games, five games on Saturday, there's uh

(01:48:17):
and then next week you got a full slate of
games starting Thursday night. But when we get to that,
let's run through as many stories as we can. Let's
get to Dan Buyer for the Press, the Press, Dan,
what he got for me, Doug. Let's start out with
just some of the stuff that you may have touched
on earlier on this show that some people may have missed.

(01:48:39):
Caps forward Lebron James going on Twitter a five tweets
rant if you would say about those Celtics fans that
burned the jersey of Isaiah Thomas, Lebron sending out the tweets,
one saying, quote, the man was traded. What do you
not understand? End quote that from Lebron James today. Yeah,
I don't understand why Lebron would he used his platform

(01:49:01):
to give them a voice just because some idiot burns
Isaiah thomas jersey, Like so what so what like, you know,
the treat falls in the forest, Does anybody actually hear it?
Bills running I'm sorry, just one hand clapping. These are

(01:49:22):
all philosophical posts. Bills running back the Sean McCoy told
reporters today that quarterback Colin Kaepernick. Quarterback Colin Kaepernick isn't
good enough to be a quarterback in the NFL, at
least the distraction that would go along with him. When
asked to kobar Kaepernick to Michael Vick, who remembers served
that prison sentence for dog fighting, McCoy said vic was
ten times better as a player than Kaepernick. Ten times better.

(01:49:47):
I don't know if he was ten times better, but
he was significantly He was a significantly better football player,
um and significantly more impactful football player. And the differences
his crime was he actually committed a signal thinking crime
as opposed to Colin Kaepernick, who committed no crime. But
the point is, like, you can have issues and still
get a shot. But remember when Mike Big came back

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to the NFL. I granted he had served time in
prison eighteen months, but he didn't come back making huge money.
He came back as a backup with the Philadelphia Eagles,
and then he had to wait until Kevin Cobb look
like Kevin Cobb spit up all over himself. He got
an opportunity. He became an MVP candidate. So, I mean,
part of the thing with Kaepernick is when he went

(01:50:31):
visited Seattle, Seattle said, you know, we think he's more
of a starter. That signifies to a lot of people.
He didn't exactly want to go and show up with
his uh with his gym shorts and just go throw
the football around and be willing to take back up money.
Let's move more otherwise in the NFL. How about let's
sit down down to Dallas where tex Her Cowboys running

(01:50:52):
back Ezekiel Elliott expected to make his preseason debew this
Saturday against the Raiders. Dog it's gonna come just a
couple of days before his appeal on a six game
suspense will be heard on Tuesday. But Zeke will play
this Saturday against Oakland. Yeah, they've said they have a
plan for how to play Zeeke, how long to play Zeke, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
I guess the question is this, um, how do you

(01:51:15):
how do you intend to keep Zeke fresh? You know,
are you gonna give him Are you gonna give him
carries in the in the second half of a preseason game? Um,
you know, with an inferior offensive line because you want
to get him carries in the preseason. But now that
you're sacrificing Alfred Morris, you're sacrificing Darren Fadden and Ronnie Hillman. Look,

(01:51:36):
I think they're pretty well prepared for the regular season
with al Forred Morrison and and with with Darren McFadden.
If you watch them against the Annapolis Colts, that offensive
line was outstanding. I think the big question is how
much do you want to protect Zeke going forward? It
was the brew haha or the donny Brook that we
talked about. It's now a final in Detroit. Tigers beat

(01:51:58):
the Yankees, but not before all of this, mcgellan and
Austin Romine are going at it. Don't play an exchange
of words, and then roll Mine took his mask off.
Miguel shoved them and around the ground, pummeling each other,
both bitches empty, trying to separate those two holy smokes.
The bullpens are empty. Out of nowhere, mcguell Cabrero started

(01:52:20):
having words with Austin Romine, were exchanged role mind has
been hauled away. Mcguello has been hauled to the ground,
but now he's over by row Mind again. And there
was a little taste Dug on the Tigers ready on network.
I think it's good for baseball, man, I do I
knew it? What Emmy, isn't it? Right? Like you have
one of the best players in baseball for the last

(01:52:42):
decade getting into a uh, getting into a kerfuffle with
Austin Romine. Well, look, the Detroit Tigers are fifty five
and seventy one. There is no reason on earth to
pay any attention to them. They've won just two of
their last ten games. Justin berlanderd's a shell of his
former self, right, Uh, they they've actually won? I think, yeah,

(01:53:04):
there're two of two of the last ten they've they've won.
I think only uh three of their last fifteen games.
I mean they're bad. Justin Verlander is not not very
good anymore. I mean even Miguel Cabrera is hitting two
fifty four with only thirteen home runs this season. They
just they've gotten old and they've gotten average in a hurry.

(01:53:27):
So now of a sudden, you watch this highlight and
it's a reason to watch baseball. It's people are trying
and take fights out of baseball the same people try
and take fights out of hockey. That's sometimes when we
watch it four in the middle of the season. There's
also another story aline you mentioned Justin Verlander. Verlander and
his teammate Victor Martinez. Actually we're going at it in
the dugout because at one point during one of the
three brawls that they had were benches cleared, Martinez was

(01:53:50):
seen talking to Gary Sanchez and some of the Yankees,
and so Verlander and some of his Tiger teammates did
not take too kindly to that. Martinez then had words
with his own teammate and the Tigers agout. So something
just to follow um Jick. Carlos Stanton, by the way,
hit homer number forty seven for the Marlins today. They
beat the Phils nine eights. Uh. Finally, let's end with this.
As part of the Candid Coaches series done by CBS

(01:54:11):
Sports and a survey of college coaches, Doug Michigan head
coach John bee Line was the high major coach that
other coaches genuinely believed does everything by the book and
operates completely within the n C double A's rule book,
and it wasn't even close. He received a whopping twenty
six point six percent of the votes. As they tallied
college coaches, who was second Mike Bray of Notre Dame,

(01:54:34):
and then Tony Bennett and Greg Guard followed tied for third. Yep, yep,
those about right. Uh. I I also think if you
look at all of them have been successful, and it's
it's one of the uh, it's one of the points
that it's a misconception of college basketball is that you
can't win doing it the right way. Backing out there

(01:54:54):
and pressed, that was the press. Big ten, by the way,
has been known as a in frience to which not
a lot of funny business goes on, especially in basketball
and uh and in basketball, I'm I can tell you
when I wasn't Notre Dame. Obviously John McLoud was a coach,
we weren't you know what he got anything at Virginia
kind of same thing. I think it happens more often

(01:55:16):
than not, guys don't get anything. Uh. In terms of
financial A lot of that we pay attention. It's it's
similar to kind of how we started the day, right,
just like we pay attention to these salastions stories on Facebook,
on Instagram, Lebron James tweeting out this video of you know,
a couple of Celtics fans burning in Isaiah thomas Jersey,

(01:55:39):
Like that's the exception. The rule is most people felt
great about what Isaiah Thomas brought to the Celtics. A
lot of people are sad to see him go. Uh everyone,
everyone kind of was attracted to him based upon how
he handled the tragic depth of his sister, all all
of that stuff. And but we were, just as as

(01:56:00):
human beings, were attracted to the negative, and we think
that the negative is a representative of a higher percentage
than it actually is. Is Dak Prescott under or overrated?
Is Aaron Rodgers the best quarterback in the NFL? I'll
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What Up? Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. It's interesting. Um,
I was discussing with some friends how Rex Ryan wasn't
great on the game broadcast. Was that Monday Night against
those giants Browns. It was his first Monday night game.

(01:56:44):
And I said, like, one of the things I think
that I've worked with Beth Mullins, she's outstanding. She's not
outstanding because she's a woman. She's outstanding because she's outstanding. Um,
but she's gonna do a Monday night game with Rex
and she's gonna do I guess one CBS game as well.
And I gotta say that one of the things that's

(01:57:06):
really really hard if you have somebody who's green as
a broadcaster. And yesterday we had Dave Revson on who
I did my first game with. I'll never forget this.
It was both of our first game ever. We did
like Charlotte, don't call us UNC Charlotte against Colorado. It
was like a four team deal and Charlotte Colorado and

(01:57:26):
we called some games is like on ESPN two. This
is in uh late fall, early winter of two thousand two.
And I had called like two games before. He had
called a couple of games in college before and a
couple of games professionally. And our boss was watching and
we thought we killed it. And we're in the car

(01:57:46):
coming back from the arena Halting Arena in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Go into our hotel room and he called us and
we're like had He's like, how do you think again
with all we thought we did, Gray, you guys were terrible,
let me tell you why, And he guys, starts kind
of going through it. If you're not gonna be the
best representative yourself in the first year doing it, I've
told you before, I think Romo will get better. And
one reason is I think he's gonna be pretty good.

(01:58:07):
But also he's gonna be doing two games a week.
The more you do, the better you get. And he's
also just out of the league, so he'll know a
lot more and teach a lot more about the league
than anybody who's been out the league for a couple
of years. And Rex Ryan has that chance too. But
when you're working as months as much as Beth Moments
has been doing this for fifteen years or so, she's
never covered the NFL, it's a different rhythm. You can't

(01:58:29):
when you're covering college football not the NFL. You aren't
You're you're not accumulating the amount of hours of data.
It takes two these guys that I an Eagle for example,
I Eagle is a genius. Okay, he would. He's bright
enough to be good at anything he does. He has
instant recalled. But he's also called the NFL for twenty years,

(01:58:50):
so he can reference. Hey, this thing happened ten years
ago in this game. And when you don't have that,
you have you basically have a green announcer. Even though
she's experienced in the field, she's not experienced in the
field of the NFL. You know, I think you end
up setting her up for failure, for disappointment because of it.
Un Plus, she's only doing a couple of games. You've

(01:59:11):
got to do a bunch of games in order really
get your feet wet uh. ESPN has a fifty person
panel of insiders. They have five tiers of quarterback. The
top tiers Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben, Drew Brees,
and Matt Ryan. Andrew Luck was in the second tier
with Derek Carr, Philip Rivers, Matthew Stafford, Russell Wilson, Eli Manning,

(01:59:35):
Cam Newton, Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott is in the third tier.
Carson Wentz also sneaks into the third tier. I think
these are pretty reasonable. I guess my issue with Brees
would be, I know his defense has been bad, but
they just haven't been good. The numbers are obscening what

(01:59:56):
he puts up, but there has to be something there
to Two years ago he turned it over a lot,
but I mean, they're not even they haven't even been
competitive and since since us UH bounty Gate. I think
Matt Ryan intellectually is a top tier quarterback. I think
skill set wise, I don't think he can do what
Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady can do playing in bad weather.

(02:00:19):
I kind of think it's Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers and
Tom Brady, Rogers and Brady above everybody else. And then
there's a bigger group in the middle, and that group
would be big Ben Breeze, Ryan, Philip Rivers, Stafford, and Luck.
And then I think tier three. Frankly, I think Eli

(02:00:39):
Eli Manning is one of those guys that's more clutched
than good. It's Joe Flacco. He's better than Flacco, but
it's similar in that in the playoffs their numbers are
sometimes better. You You, this is what Derek Jeter was.
You know, Derek Jeter can be counted on to be
the same guy in the playoffs. He was in the
regular season, whereas other guys have wild ups and counts,

(02:01:00):
and I think her Cousins is more Tier three, but
he's been putting the position to be Tier two because
he plays for one of the best offensive minds in
the game. All Right, we'll talk more about these tiers
of quarterbacks and what we'll compile a list, get ready
for the season, and then adjust the list as we
get midway through the season. Ice Cube is gonna join
us tomorrow, so too Amy Trash. She's a CEO of

(02:01:22):
She used to be the CEO of the Raiders, but
she's a CEO of the Big Three. And Jim Jackson
will join us. We'll talk about the Kyrie I t
trade and of course gets you ready for the big
fight life from the Las Vegas. This is the Doug
Otlin Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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