Doug defends Joe Kelly!

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Then then my friend Whoop is back. Whoop is back? Right?
How good is that? Um? The Doug Gotlip Show rolls
on here on Fox Sports Radio eight seven, seven nine nine.
Fox is the phone number. I love when uh Ramos
gets his control of the board because per all of

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our COVID protocols, he has to wipe everything that literally
everything they are sanitizing and steaming the control room as
we speak. That's actually digged that. I think it's awesome
because we are following proper protocols, which is kind of
all you gotta do, right, That's the story continues to

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be like n B A zero positive tests. You know,
I following proper protocols, and when you don't, you get
dinged ten days, ten days in quarantine. Follow the proper protocols,
and we got a chance to make this thing, make
this thing work. Um, baseball, I love it. I love

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what we saw last night, although there was not the
social distancing that is required by law when they get
into a bean ball war between the Dodgers and the Astros. Right,
what I what I try to not do in life, okay,
is I try to not judge somebody else's life. You

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don't tell anybody else how to pray, how to celebrate,
how to mourn? Wow, you know he's it's a weird
way of mourning. By listen, you can't tell somebody else
how to mourn. Because when my dad is the closest
the person closest to me who died. When my dad died,
I remember, uh like five days later maybe you or

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six days later going and doing a game in Fresno State,
and my bosses at the time we're like, you know,
you can not do that game. If you want, you
can take a couple of weeks off if you want.
And I was like, no, I want to do it,
Like okay, am. I thinking at the time was it's

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like a five hour drive out there, like a five
hour drive back. I just needed time to think and
two mourn and then to be in a gym, which
is his favorite place on earth, right, So that made
sense to me. But if somebody on the outside looking
it was like, dude, his dad just died. This is
you know, and all of a sudden he's calling a
basketball game. That was my thinking. Don't tell somebody else
out to moren don't tell somebody else to celebrate. I

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would even you didnt. Shouldn't judge somebody on how they
spend their money, um, how they live their life, as
long as it doesn't violate your civil rights or your
ability to live your life. And I think the same.
I think the same thing about sports. Right we we
can't tell football players how to play football or how

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to prepare if we're not in the league. There's little
things that are football things are little things that are
basketball things, and there are little things that are baseball things.
And baseball has this amazing ability to handle its own
business and keep it in the house. Right. It's the

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one thing when you have a bad relationship at home
and the last thing you want to do is share
it with every single person, because they're gonna cast judgments,
they're gonna pick sides. What is the sense of letting
somebody else in on what's going on inside your house.
The same, obviously is true with a sports team. Remember
Mac brown Mac Browns was speaking to a bunch of

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coaches at a convention that a friend of mine went to,
and he said, um, he would go around the room
and he would ask every coach how their season went.
And if a coach is like coach, we had kind
of a disappointing year, we read this that the other thing,
he would go back to that coach and say, you're fired,

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you're fired, you're fired, you're four fired. Why are they fired?
Because why are you letting any negativity out of your
You already know the issues. Somebody who doesn't know. He
just promote the positive. Probout the positive. But inside the house,
you gotta handle your own business. This is Dusty Baker
after the game giving his thoughts on Joe Kelly throwing it.

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Hitters balls got away some time, but not that many
in the big leagues. When you throw a three old
fastball over a guy's head, I mean, now you're flirting
with his ending his career. And then what really and
raised everybody is when he told Carlos, I mean, he
struck him out and he told her a nice swing,
and see, what do you what are you supposed to do? Then?
And then what upset me is that the umpires warned us.

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You know, once you warn him, you know he's the
one throwing the throwing the ball, and you know he's
the one that started this mess in the first place.
And I didn't like it at all. Yeah, well yeah,
but Dusty had to know on some level, this was
not unprovoked, It was not unplanned. It was not simply

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Joe Kelly having a beef with Carlos Correa. Right. He
had to know. I had to know that this was
potentially coming. And the only thing different about this baseball
season for the Astros is that there are no fans
to boo them, to heckle them, to yell at them.
Every time they're in batting practice over hitting trash cans,

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Like Dusty has his job because of went went down,
So the only reason he has the job there, So
you had to know that was coming, and sure enough
it was coming. And I don't mind it. It was
Joe Kelly over the top. Yeah, yeah, but you know what,
it's also not just a reaction to what the Astros

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did in the World Series, but it's also a reaction
to what the Astros did in terms of answering questions
about it before the season was set to begin. Do
you guys remember that? Remember their owners saying it didn't
really give them an advantage, Remember players backing that up.
It didn't really give them an advantage. Remember Carlos Correa

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going through every home run and talking about who was
on base and how it actually went down. Do you
do you remember any of that? Joe Kelly does. I
guess I didn't take too kind to a curve ball.
It is what it is, finally made. One can pitch
for the punch out, and you know, we're able to
keep the leave where it was that I pitched competitively
with the no fans here. It's easy to hear some stuff,

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so I like picking off a couple of times. It's fun,
but yeah something apparently they didn't take too kind to
so look, I The only thing I wish Joe Kelly
was able to do is own the guys that he beamed.
One of the other unwritten rules in baseball is you're
not really supposed to say, yeah, I threw at him,
although Cole Hamil's once upon a time through at what's

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his name is now Philly by the way, Uh, why
am I Vegas? Bryce Harper, you know, and he did
kind of own it. But this, this is baseball, This
is expected, This is keeping in the house. This is
when this is like when people freak out about players

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yelling at coaches are playing yelling at players on the sideline,
Like that's what happens inside sports. This is what happens
inside baseball, and baseball has to manage it. Hey, man,
can't can't go near the head of the neck. Can't
go near the head of the neck. You just can't.

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But you can throw it a guy. You can being
a guy, and you can talk trash to a guy.
You just you have to understand that the only thing
that changes the National League no longer has the picture
hitting so now somebody else in your lineup is gonna
get dinged. That's what That's all it changed. And the
Astros have the ability to throw right back at the Dodgers,
but they won't because they know what they did and

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this is their penance that they're going to pay throughout
the season. So I I I'm not gonna say there's
nothing to see here. It was fun to see there,
and it's one of those deals where you're like, I
wonder if the Dodgers are really oh, yeah, they're really pissed.
They they haven't forgotten. Every league needs, every team needs

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a villain, needs a guy. Every championship team needs a
guy that's willing to do things to back his teammates.
Kind of go through it, you'll figure him out. They
all have him. And if the Dodgers want to suddenly
be the villains or want to be the guys who
point out what the Astros did and how we felt

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about it, like that's what's interesting is we had kind
of forgotten between the Kobe crash, quarantine and COVID and
the cancelations and the no fans and the restarting of
baseball and guys opting out in football and Tom Brady
switching teams and hot Wings with Lou Williams. By the way,

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Happy National Wings Day. With all of those things going down,
all of them. We had forgotten about the Astros, but
the Dodgers hadn't. And now the Dodgers are letting it
be known. They're still ticked. They're getting even in the

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only way possible. It still doesn't give back the championship rings.
It doesn't. Remember, none of the Astros players who were
part of the scheme got any sort of punishment. None.
There were no fine, no nothing, and give back anything.
There's no asterix by the Astros, none of that, none
of it. So I look at this thing and I

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love it. It's sports returning to normalcy, which is what
we need, which distracts us from nonsensical takes like Michael
Uh Michael Porter Jr. Saying that COVID is something to
control people, you know, or arguments about not wearing a
mask or any of this other political nonsense. We're just

(11:08):
trying to get back to being the best damn country
on earth. It doesn't mean that we can't continue to
evolve and get fixed. But sports is a diversion, and man,
last night was a great diversion. Tomorrow night, I'll be
a great diversion. And the normalcy of last night brought
back the memories of just how ticked everybody was. And

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the Dodgers have not forgotten. One NFL team has a
Super Bowl window for the next three years and they
have a clear plan in place, and you saw it yesterday.
I will explain that next be sure to catch the
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the I Heart Radio ah app Doug Gotlip Show Fox
Sports Radio. So what's the magic mix in building an
NFL team? Right? You gotta hit it and load up
your team while your quarterback is on a rookie deal,
and take a look around the National Football League at
the best teams. The Patriots were able and and we

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would all agree that the Patriots probably didn't have with
the exception of you got one cornerback who is an
elite player, you know, but very few top of the
market guys, and their quarterback was never a top of
the market guy. What Tom Brady was. What they were
able to do with Tom Brady and capitalize on for
years and Tom Brady did go through a period time.

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We're just the highest paid guy in the league. But
would they ever do with with Tom Brady allowed them
to have really good talent, just be good solid for years.
It's a general organizational philosophy, but it's a hard one
to come by for the most part. All Right, who

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won the Super Bowl three years ago? Where it was it?
Three years ago? Three? All right? Remember when the Eagles
won the Super Bowl? Their quarterback was Carson Wentz. What
do we remember about that team? He was one of
the most talented teams in the NFL. Carson Wentz got hurt,

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but then of course he signed a gargantuan new contract
the l A Rams when they went to the Super Bowl.
One of the most talented teams in the league. Yeah,
Sean mcve is an excellent coach. But they were able
to they they they had bringing in Dominican sue trade

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for top level cornerbacks, gave Aaron Donald the biggest contract
to defensive lineman. Had never seen, you know, overpay for
Sammy Watkins when they had dudes all over the field.
And why how could they do that? Because Jared Goff
was on a rookie contract, the Bears obviously haven't one enough.

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But two years ago, why were they able to go
and make a deal for Cleil Mack and have that
contract on the books because they had a quarterback on
a rookie contract. The Dallas Cowboys, one of the most
talented teams in the league, able to do it with
a quarterback under rookie contract. Um. Now, the Niners, they
were bad for so many years. They drafted really well,

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and until they give Jimmy Garoppolo a new deal, they
didn't have anybody in a big money contracts, so they
could lock up many of their young players who weren't
already on their rookie deal. And then they benefited from
Garoppolo getting hurt. So they drafted incredibly well. Review have
a rookie on a rookie deal. Now you can spread

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that money around that should be dedicated to a quarterback.
The twenty five to thirty five million off the top,
and you can load up your franchise. What happened yesterday
after this show concluded, the l A Chargers and Joey
Bosa reached a five year, one hundred and thirty five
million dollar contract extension that ties him. Um, that ties

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him to the team for the next six years. It's
gonna make seventy eight million dollars fully guaranteed and a
hundred and two million guaranteed UH total with a with
a new a new defensive record. So eventually you're gonna

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have to pay Derwin James. They've already paid Melvin Ingram,
they avoided overpaying for Melvin Gordon, They got Austin Neckler
as a running back, and then they're just gonna throw
a bunch of dudes out there. Keenan Allen, they've had
under contract Hunter Henry has been franchise tagging. That deal
has to be kind of worked out. Hunter has been healthy,
but they think he's a star. But the point is
that they're able to do to move all this money

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around and to pay some of these big contracts like
a Joey Bosa be because combined their two quarterbacks make
under fifteen million dollars, and Justin Herbert eventually will take
over and this is the bigger money year. The next
two years, Justin Herbert is not making much and so
this year Tyrod Taylor starts and unless he's spectacular, your

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part ways with Tyrod Taylor becomes Justin Herbert, and you
get as many of these deals done as many of
you draft well, and you sign the guys that you
like that are on your squad, and you have more
talent than other people, and if the quarterback is above average,
you're gonna have yourselves one of the best teams in
the NFL. So what what happened yesterday with the l

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A Chargers is a in direct correlation to the fact
that they are going to have a rookie, a quarterback
with a rookie contract for the next four years. And
that's what so many teams plan for. That's frankly what
I think the Patriots would like to do going forward
to next year. That's that's what intrigued them about Jared

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Stidham or if they draft a guy is they'll never
have to spend, you know, more than ten million dollars
on a on a quarterback. And if you save all
that money and the cap keep going keeps going up,
you can continue to draft well and then get and
the guys that you like, like a Stephen Gilmore, you

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can overpay to keep if you want. I obviously, as
a Charger fan, like Joey boss Beast when he's healthy
he's an amazing football player. I do think his brother
might be better, but either way, you can't get his brother.
But all of this was helped by the fact that

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you bit the bullet part of ways of Philip rivers.
You didn't go out and signed Tom Brady even though
Tom Brady is playing under a reasonable contract, and you
move forward. Be sure to catch the live edition of
the Doug gott Leap Show Weekday you said, three p m.
Easter noon Pacific Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Ben
Bolan joins us from the Boston Glove covers the entire

(18:09):
National Football League. I do want to get into your
take on the Brady ratings, which is echoes what what
we've talked about here. But first let me start with
the with the Chargers deal, like what the Patriots, we're
able to do is the is the outlier most teams.
If you have a big time quarterback, you're gonna pay

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him now to thirty five million dollars. But the goal
is to have a guy in a rookie contract and
then load up with a bunch of talent until you
get to that point. And that's what the Chargers are implementing.
Fair I definitely think it's fair. They assuming Justin Herbert's
a good quarterback, They've now got um. They're starting quarterback
under pretty you know, cost effective terms for four years,

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so you can start paying other players. And this this
is I believe why the Chargers weren't big players in
free agency for other like especially for Tom Brady, was
that they have to pay Hunter Henry, and they have
to pay Joey Bosa, and they've got to pay Keenan
Allen coming up, and Tyrrell Williams, that Derwin James is
coming up. They got a lot of talented players that
they want to keep together. So I think it certainly

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makes sense to go for the rookie quarterback route. Now
the only question is can Justin Herbert play that? That's
you know that, that to me is what it all
hinges upon. Yeah, and and to that it's a it's
definitely a tv D. There's the mixed mixed feelings for
most people in in the NFL. Is Joey Bosa worth
the biggest contract for his position in the NFL? I
think so the guy is a beast and even when

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he doesn't show up on the statutes, usually because the
other team is putting so much attention on him. He's
just um, a phenomenal young football player, and that's the
type of players do want to reward. Um. It's big numbers,
but like every team, UH is gonna have a few
big contracts, whether it's the quarterback or a pass rusher
or a corner or a left tackle. So everything is

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gonna have these and it's just how you manage the
middle on the back end of your roster that determined.
I think who the championship teams are. Ben Bolan joining
US Dog got lip show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um, okay,
so there's there's the tears of quarterback and Brady is
still UH in one of those top two tiers. How

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do you like? Look, you watched every game Tom Brady's
essentially played in the last ten years. He covered the
team and covered the rest of the league. How how
good is Tom Brady today? Well? I saw that he
was ranking number fourteenth in the NFL Top one and
I thought that was preposterous. Um, Look, Tom Brady did
not have the best weapons last year. There's no question

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he had Julian Edelman, maybe James White, not a whole
lot else, But his numbers were, you know, took a
nose dive across the board. He was twenty seven and
completion percentage nineteenth and passer rating And it wasn't just
because of the talent around. And Tom Brady was not
having a good season last year, missing wide open throws,
dealing with injuries, looking as age, looked a little mentally

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checked out last year, just refusing to get younger receivers involved.
So yeah, I still think he's a top ten quarterback.
And actually I think Brady in line for a good
bounce back season. I think having Grounk back as his
security blanket will help him down in Tampa. But I
think several quarterbacks have passed him at this point and
he's got lots of proofs this year that you know,

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last year was just a blip on the radar and
not the start of his downfall. Okay, let's keep it
close to home. Um, why have so many Patriots opted out? Yeah?
They they they leave the league right now. They've had
six players, and they've had some of the biggest names.
Dante Hi Tower is a pretty big one, Patrick Chung

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is a great player on their defense, and Marcus Cannon
they're starting right tackle. I think that's just what happens
when you have a veteran team. The Patriots have had
the oldest team in the league for the last several years,
and they have guys who are a little more conscientious,
have more going on at home, have put their bodies
through some more. They don't need the football is much anymore.
That you know, they've made their money, and you know

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each case as individual, like Dante high Tower has a
two week old son at home and he felt the
right thing to do was to stay at home with
the family this year. And that's not an easy decision.
He's turning down and he were from eight to like
eleven billion dollars this year if he hits his incentive.
That's a lot of money for a guy like high
Tower to be walking away from. Yeah, here's what I

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don't understand. Okay, that's what I don't understand. Um are
and look I get you have a newborn. You don't
want to bring this thing into your house because if
you talk to doctors, they'll tell you zero to one
and then you know anything about years old. Now of
a sudden, Um, you gotta be you know, you gotta
be really really careful around COVID that said, like, are

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we to believe that he's gonna quarantine the entire football season?
Because if you're in the NFL, you're gonna be in
whatever form of bubble, You're gonna be constantly monitored. You're
gonna have doctors at at the ready, whereas when you're
when you're at home, you're on your own. You know,
I do see what you're saying there. I do think
NFL facilities are gonna be safer than the general public.

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And and they will. It will be thirty two bubbles
um for the most part, instead of just one bubble
like the NBA is doing. But so I do see
what you're saying. You get tested more, and um, you know,
it's a safer environment there than just being out, but
you know, interacting with hundreds of players and contact and
you don't know what the guy across from you is doing.

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And everyone still goes home at night, um, to their families,
and they could get it from their kids. And there's
false positives, uh, and false negatives with the tests, so
a guy could be in the building with a false
negative and spreading it and um, you know it from
High Tower's perspective, I could totally understand just not wanting
to take those changes, like and you know, like for me,

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like I have two kids at home. No one in
my house has high risk. But if I get COVID,
I probably have to go quarantine and go to a
hotel for a while and leave my wife, you know,
dealing with the kids by yourself. Like I don't want
to do that. So I, you know, I can imagine
that Dante high Tower, Patrick Chung, these guys with with
family situations are you know, they have to take that
into account as well. Doug gotlip show here on Fox

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Sports Radio. All right, so what do the Patriots look like? Right? Like,
we don't know who their quarterback is, and now they're
losing two of their best defensive players. And the defense
was the part that we thought we could count on. Yeah, Doug,
they had the number one defense pretty much across the
board last year, and they have now lost five starters,
including all three of their linebackers. Van Noyle went to Miami,
Jamie Collins went to Detroit. Now Dante Hied high Tower

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opts out. They traded Jron Harmon to Detroit, and now
Patrick Chung is opting out. So those are very familiar names,
guys that have helped the Patriots win multiple championships, were
a big part of the defense last year. Uh, you're right,
they have a lot of big holes. And you know,
they did draft a bunch of They drafted a Patrick
Chung clone in the second round. They drafted a couple
of linebackers in the third round. So I don't know

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if that just happens to be good fortune or you know,
maybe High Tower Chung. These guys probably weren't to be
long for the Patriots anyway. But I think suddenly the
Patriots defense it's gonna be relying a lot more on rookies.
Belichick likes to usually bring those guys along slowly. Even
high Tower and Collins when they were rookies didn't play
a whole lot. But now Kyle Dugger, the second round pick,

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is probably gonna have to play a lot of safety
this year. And Josh Ouch from Michigan and Anthony Jennings
from Alabama might be your, you know, your two outside
linebackers this year. It's just it's you know, it's gonna
be fascinating because Belichick over the years has preferred veteran players,
um guys that know what they're doing and are more professional,
and now Belichick is gonna be relying on kids on
twenty one and twenty two year old. Um. You know,

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maybe some street free agents out there as well. But
it's just the Patriots are gonna be kind of a
rag tag team. But you know, we're gonna see that
throughout the rest of the week. This is only the
tip of the iceberg of guys opting out. I saw
Giants left tackle, made Soldier just opted out. You're gonna
see a lot of guys before the deadline, which is
gonna be like August fourth, or fifth, or six somewhere
around there. A lot of veteran players are probably gonna

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end up opting out. And I think every team is
gonna be dealing with the same kind of issues at
the Patriots all right. On the other hand, there will
be some some jobs available for guys that weren't going
to make it in the league. What do you make
of how Aaron Rodgers handled the Q and A on
on Good Morning Football with Kyle Brant in regards to
his feelings about the Packers draft. So I didn't see

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much of the interview, but I saw that he kind
of admitted that he was salty about it, right, so
he had He admits that he wasn't too happy about
the Jordan Love draft pick. Yeah, he said, Uh, he
kind of took it. Took you through the night where
he was, he was watching. He was excited. He knew
about the players, knew who was available, saw they traded up,

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and then decided to go and get some sipping tequila
because he knew his phone would be either buzzing off
the hook with texts or calls, and you know, he
he wanted to make sure that there was people knew.
It was dissimilar to when he was drafted because they
moved up to draft Geordan Love as opposed to him
falling to the Packers, and that Brett had talked about

(26:59):
retiring as he doesn't want to retire. Uh, he said, look, yeah,
I get what the Packers doing. It's a business decision. So, um,
it was fairly emotionless. But you got the sense that
he wasn't he wasn't super fired up. Uh, but he
he also um, he was just like, hey, okay, I

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they're obviously doing You don't draft a guy in the
first round unless you're gonna get him on the field.
But I don't. I don't think Jordan Loves as a prospect.
He's not anywhere with no preseason, He's not anywhere near
being capable of playing this year, let alone next year. Yeah,
So that's why I kind of liked the move and
at least respect it from the Packers from this sense
where they knew and drafting Jordan's Love that it was

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going to take off Aaron Rodgers and that it would
be it was signal to the world that Aaron Rodgers
probably isn't that much longer for the Packers. So they
had conviction there, and they made a pretty bold move
and going up and get Jordan's getting and getting Jordan's
Love and upsetting Aaron Rodgers in the process. And if
you look at Aaron Rodgers contract, he's deaf only locked

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in for this year, but I think he could be
gone as soon as next year. UM, it's you know
whether it's Um, why would you do that because you
just drafted Jordan Love and and I think the Packers offense,
even though they they went to the NSC Championship game
last year, that offense just was not right. And Rogers
kind of like Brady, his numbers were down across the

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board last year that there was that whole thing all
offseason long about Matt Lafleur's system doesn't really call for
audibling at the line of scrimmage, and that's all Rodgers
want to do is audible, audible, And they hired a
coach whose system doesn't mess with him. He seemed to
kind of pout all year long, his numbers weren't great,
and then the offense completely fizzled uh in the playoffs.
So if I'm the Packers, I'm looking at it, it

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looks like they've committed more to the offensive scheme under
Matt Lafleur than they have to Aaron Rodgers. And by
going up and getting Jordan's love, they they've made it
pretty clear that they don't, you know, necessarily view Rogers
is being a great fit for their team for much longer. Well,
I mean, I'll just say this, like, I don't I
this year. Next year, I don't think they're anyway. Next year,
it's a thirty six million dollar capit twenty two million

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dollars in cash dead cap money at thirty one five.
They're They're not They're not taking a thirty one point
five million dollar dead cat money hit. Uh after that
after the next two years. Now the sudden the dead
cap money is at seventeen million. So he's on a
two year window with a possible third year, which I
think is very very reasonable, And that fits in line

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with when Jordan's Love could be ready and if Aaron
Rodgers achieved, if he if he improves or stays at
the same level, whether you can trade Jordan Jordan's Love,
He's still his value is going to only be higher,
not lower. Yeah, it's kind of like the Jimmy I
guess it's the Jimmy Garoppolo situation all over again. Uh.
It's not like the Patriots were able to get or

(29:45):
they maybe could have gotten a Hall for Garoppolo, but
they didn't. They only got a second I'll picked for him. Uh.
To me, it's much likelier that Jordan's Love takes over
in two years that the Packers are trading him. I mean,
Rogers is in his late thirties right now. And you know,
like I said, like his performance last year wasn't the
same Aaron Rodgers Uh that that were used to And
I think there are real concerns there about how he
fits with the offensive scheme and the system that they're

(30:08):
trying to run. And you're right about the cap, but
I think if they trained them after June one next year,
they could actually cut that cap in half to like
seventeen and seventeen or something along those lines. Um. So
it is palatable if they if they do it after
June one next year, And look, I agree with you, maybe,
you know, it does kind of set up well if
they really view Love as a project to give him

(30:29):
two years to sit behind Rogers. But that's also two
years where it could not be, you know, the best
relationship and between the two quarterbacks, and it could get
a little toxic inside the building. And if the Packers struggle,
there's gonna be some calls to hey, let's see what
what Jordan's Love can do. And you know, maybe Rogers
isn't gonna want to stick around there after after this year.
Maybe he sees the writing on the wall and just

(30:50):
send me to a team that actually wants me. So
I think it's kind of a year to year situation
right now with Rodgers and the Packers. Doug Gotlives Show,
You're on Fox Sport Trade. How confident are you that
will have a full NFL season? So I still think
that there's gonna be a super Bowl. I don't know
if there's gonna be a full six team game schedule
and all that, but I think we will get to
a super Bowl, and they will play a super Bowl

(31:11):
one way or another. Uh. It might be in March,
it might be not in Tampa where it's in scheduled
to be. But I do think the NFL will find
a way to get through the season. But what's interesting also, Doug,
is you know if they play one game, if they
just play one game, then none of the none of
the contracts told the next year, all the players will
get all their guaranteed money. So I want to I

(31:31):
think the owners are getting a little nervous right now.
They see what's happening with the Marlin and how quickly
the virus can spread, and the owners, I think, might
be getting nervous about starting the season and might try
to find a way to pull the plug before week
one because as soon as week one happens, they're on
the hook for a lot of money. So there could
be an interesting dynamic where the owners want to shut
it down, but the players want to play. UH. So

(31:54):
that that to me is something to watch moving forward
here the next few weeks. Camp awesome stuff, Ben Volan
from the Boston Globe falm on social media, and of
course you can hear my here in the Doug Gotlip Show.
Been great stuff and I hope you're well. Thanks for
joining us. All right, that's Ben Vollen joined us. Antonio
Brown could have a new home in the NFL in
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do you get there, my boy dog? The game today

(32:39):
is real news fake news. I have six scenarios. Hopefully
we can get to all of them. Let's start it out.
Real news or fake news? Then, Nashi Zohn fielder Juan
Suto has been cleared to return to action by Major
League Baseball and we'll play tonight against the Blue Jays.
Is that real news? Are fake? That's real news? You
are fake? Not clear yet? Well, he is cleared. Here's

(32:59):
the Crystal Soto. Well, that's that's actually probably apropos. He
won't be able to play until he'st cleared by the
District of Columbia's Department of Health. So Soto unable to
go for the natz Is. They take on the Blue
Jays tonight in d C. Team is hoping that maybe
run August first, he'll be that's this Saturday that he'll
be able to be cleared to play. So a bit

(33:20):
of a weird situation with Juan Soto. Let's go to
this scenario. Real news are fake news? Does the Major
League Baseball Players Association is asking players to consider rules
changes making double headers either to seven inning games or
one nine inning and one seven inning games. That real
news are fake news? Uh? That's they're real and attack

(33:48):
now because of these postponed games, you're gonna see more
double headers. Yeah, the Union trying to maximize the player's health.
You could have to seven inning affairs or one, but
they need to get the player is on the side too.
Much like the Little league deal or the Porty legal
you got run rules or time limit. Yeah, absolutely, there

(34:11):
is nothing worse. By the way, all you a whole
baseball coaches, then when you're playing like a game and
you know, and you do the time limit thing. You
take your time, you go to the mound, your kids
go out there and take a couple buck your pitches.
Just you're the worst, Like dude, just the the ideas
for the kids to play. That's as as a fan

(34:32):
and not as a coach. I love I love a
masked ramos by the way, chirping in right, it does
sound like what's that sound effect guys where you use
like a microphone. That's kind of what it sounds like. Like. Oh,
there have been games that I've attended back the IP

(34:54):
family as a fan where they're like two minutes before
the cut off, like start a new inning, and I'm like, no,
just ended. I don't have to be every another forty
five minutes. Real new's your fake news. Ravens quarterback Lamar
Jackson still wants the team to sign wide receiver Antonio Brown.
They're real and they're spectacular. Yeah, says that he still

(35:15):
hopes the team signs a b after the two sides
worked out this offseason. Of course, Brown still waiting here
from the NFL about a possible suspension following their investigation
into those sexual assault allegations. Real news are fake news. Doug.
Buccaneers and coach Bruce Harrian says he doesn't play sexual
assault sexual assault. The assault assault has very cord because

(35:37):
if their sault was sexual that would really be weird.
I don't even know where to go with that one. Yeah,
Buccaneers dead coach Bruce arians is this real news? Your
fake news? Says he doesn't plan on wearing a mask
on the sidelines during NFL games this season, despite being
sixty seven years old. Not only will Aaron's wear a mask,

(35:57):
you will also wear a face shield during teams this
upcoming season. Says that they also have also have a
straw for his drink as well, like a long straw ring.
They should just have him in a booth, you know,
like yeah, real coaches booth or something like that penalty box.
But good, Yeah, it's good to be glad that he's
taking it serious. He has taken it seriously. The face

(36:18):
shield thing is gonna be weird. I don't care who
you are. You can see somebody walking around with that
face shield. You're like, all right, that's interesting. Real news
are fake news. The Chicago Blackhawks won't allow fans to
wear Native American headdresses or costumes. At games and events
when fans are allowed to return, they're real and they're
Spectac team making the announcement today again at games and events,

(36:41):
So even the stuff around town that they may do
in Chicago, but that message sent out from the black
Hawks today. And finally, dug real news are fake news.
U s open at Wingfoot in September will be held
with approximately one thousand fans, with no more than one
fans allowed in bleachers behind each hole. You are fake
zero fans. Yeah, no fans will be allowed to attend.

(37:03):
I do like a talk over the out on the
du Gotli show. I do like my made up scenario
though I don't don't it's not really possible, but I
thought it was it. It is possible, it's just it's
too much hard work for some people, like, yeah, we
could do that, but that would be really hard, so
let's not do that. That That's that's what I feel

(37:24):
like a lot of people, Oh, we could totally do that,
but that'd be really hard because it wouldn't be really expensive.
It actually be super profitable, but it'd be really hard.
You know, then you got temperature check, everybody's coming in.
Just you know, there's no real people there. Somebody probably
proposed and then it was like a yeah, you know,
and then's how you do the answer? Yeah, I don't know.

(37:45):
I don't know. Um, all right, I got a couple
of things. Um, couple them next. But first, all of
these guys that are opting out of the NFL are
missing it, are missing the point of what they're actually
doing and why Aaron Rodgers is going to be the
quarterback of the Packers for a long time, long time.

(38:09):
So I got I got both of those for you, right,
you're ready that. That's what's called a tease in the business.
I still don't know what both found. We'll find out
what that is. That's up coming next to The Doug
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(38:31):
the I Heart Radio app What Up Doug Gotlip Show,
Fox Sports Radio. Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. I'm
at Aaron Rodgers on before. He's a very interesting guy.
And uh, Kyle Brandt's friend of mine does a really
good job Good Morning Football, And they had a one
on one interview and um. I I think what happens

(38:57):
is we have a tendency to freak out sometimes when
people have a plan B. Right, everybody wants to be
the Plan A. No one wants to be the plan B.
But you better have a plan B, don't you think? Okay, So,
as you know, the Green Bay Packers drafted Jordan's Love

(39:19):
in the uh first round of the NFL Draft. They
actually traded up, traded a fourth round pick. I think
away right to move up a couple of spots and
take Jordan's Love. Jordan Love was a very discussed prospect
across the board. He didn't have a good year this year,
but the previous year he did. He has a lot
of talent. UM, really fascinate kid from Bakersfield. Dad was

(39:42):
a police officer and his late father was a police officer.
Kind of raised by all the cops that dad went
through some thing PTSD and end up actually taking his
own life, I believe um. And he's generally seen as
a really really talented kid who just he's a couple

(40:03):
he's a year away from being a year away, but
because he's a quarterback, because he's talented, Because the Packers
traded up to get him. You have Aaron Rodgers on
Kyle Brand's podcast saying this, I think probably the first
the former. I think that's probably happens, you know, based
on you know, just a circumstance around everything. You know,

(40:25):
you look at just look at the facts. You know,
they traded up, they drafted him. I would say, they
like him, they want to play him now. I think
quarterbacks you are playing earlier. It gives some latitude for
young coaches and gms to to play there, to play
their guys. And I get it, I really do. Like
I don't harbor any ill will about it. Like was
I bummed out of course? Who wouldn't be, you know,

(40:47):
like I wanted to play my enticker in Green Bay.
I love the city. I grew up there. Really it
was got thirty six now and a lot of changes
during that time. But look, I get it. I see
it completely clearly, and then I'm not bitter about it. Um,
it just kind of is what it is. That's uh,
that was Aaron Rodgers right, very matter of fact, Hey,
they're gonna play him. My time is up here. There's

(41:10):
a little woe is me there. But I also think
that motivated Aaron Rodgers a good. Aaron Rodgers, he is
not a spring chicken. Okay, He's gonna be what thirties
six and thirty seven years old over the next two years.
And generally guys do start to fade when they get
in their thirties. And if they don't like what's the

(41:31):
what's the best case scenario for the Packers? Aaron Rodgers
balls out and you trade Jordan's love. The reason you
have a big contract. And in the NFL it's about
guarantees and dead cap money. Why do you get those? Well,
you get those so they can't cut you, they can't
move on from you. It's the same thing with coaches

(41:53):
contracts in college sports. Why do they have these massive buyouts.
None of these massive buyouts because they wanted to prevent
them from leaving. It's so that you can't fire them,
right Like Shaka Smart is what probably would have been
fired to Texas if not for the fact that one
they were probably the n c A tournament team this year,

(42:15):
and to it like a twenty million dollar buyout. They're
trying to build a new arena. They're building a new
arena at Texas, so all their funds are already tied up.
The last thing they want to do is run a
twenty million yard check for a coach who's not going
to coach the team, only to write a five million
dollar check for the next coach to coach the team.
Like just basketball doesn't have that sort of income at

(42:35):
this point in time, and then you factored in the
pandemic and it didn't make any sort of sense. Right,
That's how you have those big buyouts, that's how you
have the big dead cat money. And so you're hearing
Aaron Rodgers say it's a business. But in any business,
you gotta have a plan B. And their plan B is, Hey,
what if Aaron Rodgers starts to fade, or what if

(42:56):
Aaron Rodgers um one? If Aaron Rodgers gets hurt, if
he ages, if he fades, if he's really not a
good fit for what we're doing, in two years, we
can move on and bite the bullet when the cap spikes,
and if not, we have a guy who's trained under

(43:18):
Aaron Rodgers. And considering Aaron Rodgers wasn't really trained by
Brett Farve, but trained under Brett Farve and became a
great player, his reputation is only gonna grow. Like we
have to look at He's like, what didn't ar Roger say,
you just gotta look at the facts. You just gotta
look at the facts. They're not gonna have a preseason
this year. So do you think a guy who is

(43:39):
a prospect at quarterback he's going to get any run
in an offense he doesn't know, hasn't practiced in. And
the quarterback that they have is a first ballot Hall
of Famer, former Super Bowl champion, m VP of the league, who,
by the way, might not have the greatest year last year,
but they did win thirteen games. Those are the facts.
The facts are Jordan Loves is not gonna see the

(44:00):
this year unless Aaron Rodgers gets hurt. And the facts
are that the only the first time we will see
Jordan's love play is either Week seventeen of this season
or next year's preseason. And the only reason you'd see
in Week seventeen is they're really really good and they
want to rest their guys for the playoffs, which means

(44:22):
you're not gonna get rid of Aaron Rodgers, right, Like,
we're just we're talking ourselves into something which isn't really
gonna happen. I almost feel like Aaron Rodgers and the
people who are they're just there. We've we've created this
kind of roundly pessimistic sort of view point of view,
which may be realistic based upon the past quarterbacks aging

(44:44):
getting to their thirties and struggling later in the season,
but we've also seen a lot of older quarterbacks play
well at the end of seasons recently, and Aaron Rodgers
could be one of the exceptions, not the rule, not
having to go through long, strenuous training camps. All right,
let me get to this. So yesterday we had a bevy,

(45:08):
a plethora, a cornucopia of dudes saying they're opting out
of playing this year in the NFL. Um I thought
the most profound one, the one that was right at
your heartstrings, was Marquise Goodwin, who's a talented player, and

(45:30):
he's like, look, I've chosen football over my family so
many times, so many times, I'm gonna choose family over
football this time. And you're like, man, that's a a
hell of an argument, hell of an ark. Okay, so
help me out with this one. If you're going to

(45:54):
opt out of the NFL season because of fears of
COVID nineteen, well what you're saying is the locker room
is like a Petri dish, right, and the football field
is as well. It's an uncontrolled environment, and if you're
gonna play, you run the risk of contracting COVID because

(46:15):
not just of your guys, but of guys on other teams.
You don't know where they've been, You don't know if
they've been following protocol, and the safest ways just to go.
You know what, I'm going to spend this year with
my family. Okay, what are you gonna do with your family?
Like John, when you had time off recently recently, what

(46:39):
did you do? Uh? Spent time? Well, relaxed at home
because I have been here at the network since the
pandemic began, so that was very relaxing. And spent time
with my family even though we have spent time together
because of the pandemic. It was more of a you know,
long period of time as opposed to just when I

(47:01):
get home from work. Got it? Got it? Did you
go outside of your house at all? Into our front yard?
That's it? Ye never left your house, never went anywhere
like did we go to the beach and thought? What
you mean stuff like that beach restaurant park, No grocery store. Yes, okay,
are you the only one who goes in that grocery store. Yes,

(47:24):
you're the only one that goes to grocery store in
the entire valley. Oh no, no, no, yes, no we're not.
I wasn't the only one in the grocery. Like, here's
the here's the flaw in the argument. If you're saying, hey,
I'm gonna do it. And by the way, John who
takes care of his ninety old grandma, Like John, actually,
my mom, your mom, I'm sorry, my bad, I forgot

(47:45):
how old you are? Year old mother? Like, he's being
super super cautious. So you mean to tell me that
Dante ho Tower has a newborn Marquise good one who
has a like a one year old. You mean to
tell me that these guys are going to be even
that cautious and even that level of caution. You're going

(48:06):
to a grocery store. You're going to a grocery store.
You mean to tell me that in the food supply chain,
you know, every person who's touched that bottle of rant dressing.
By the way, how about a round of applause rant dressing?
Huh huh, huh, there you go. Sorry, I mean, everybody

(48:27):
loves like everybody loves ice cream and candy, but like
rant dressing is pretty awesome. I just want to point
that out. Anyway, you pick up a bottle of rant dressing,
do you have any idea who else has picked up
that bottle ranch dressing in the food supply chain, in
the rest in the grocery store. And you mean to

(48:48):
tell me that these guys, because they're protecting their family,
which is the right thing to do, they don't know
when they're gonna be you know there, are they gonna
do temperature checks every day? Are they gonna have a
doctor on speed dial? Are their wives? Are there other
kids not gonna interact with any other children? Because the
second you do that, you can you start to open

(49:08):
up your circle. You just do start to open up
your circle. And you know, I'm just gonna tell you
that I believe you're safer within the confines of Have

(49:28):
you seen these locker rooms, like the locker rooms, the
plexiglass everywhere they're separating players. They're gonna not have a
bunch of guys in the same room, Like it's gonna
be problematic to be a true team but they'll figure
out a way. Like what don't you understand about Major
League Baseball? Yes, the Marlins had an outbreak and they've
been quarantined, and it feels like it's been contained. There

(49:52):
are no other positive tests from that. The Phillies didn't
catch it. Now you can say, all right, it's different
in football. Fine, it's different. In football. You are wearing
a faced shield. You can there are ways which you
can wear a face mask or like a shield inside
with plane. You are wearing gloves which you aren't wearing
when you're playing baseball. Glow on one hand, not on
the other, but you're coming much closer to one another

(50:14):
when you're playing football. Understood. But the constant testing, the doctors,
the plexiglass, and just the numbers tell you that it's
safer in the bubble, even if that bubble is not
as contained as the basketball bubble than it is outside
of it. Unless you're gonna self quarantine, if you're gonna quarantine,

(50:38):
or even you're gonna do what John does where you
only you're at home. You're only at home or the
grocery store and nowhere else, and no one else comes over.
If you're gonna do that, fine, the likelihood of that
happening for an NFL player, and I'm not one of
these guys that's being a jerky like well they go
to strip clips like now, not lots of guys that
are husbands with kids like your kids not gonna have

(50:59):
played eight for the whole football season. Now I can
have any play dates. They're not gonna go to school.
The second they go to school, all that discussion about
quarantine and your family is over over. So I actually
think there's a flaw to their belief which is spread
throughout the league, which says you're more likely to get

(51:21):
it in football, where the truth is, you're safer in
football unless you're gonna quarantine at home. Alright, coming up next,
it's very clear that we can have live sports during
this pandemic, and we have proof. I'll share that proof
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(52:08):
clear that we can do this, right, there wasn't that
lows old old tagline. You can do it, we can
help well. Of the four NBA players tested on campus,
the test results for the NBA zero confirmed positive tests. Zero.

(52:31):
That's pretty amazing. So look, we've said it before, Adam Silver,
you were right, we were wrong. You're smart, we're stupid,
you're handsome, we're not so good looking. Right, We've we've
done all that. By the way, the season resumes tomorrow,
Pelicans take on the Jazz six thirty Eastern time. The
Lakers face the Clippers at nine Eastern time, and uh

(52:52):
and a double header that that's gonna be awesome. Lakers
Clippers tomorrow night. Hm. So I look at this thing
and I'm like, it can be done. It can be done.
It can definitely be done. In college sports, college basketball specifically,
and you can tell me this whole wow. You know,
if college athletes are there, then they're just no, they're not.

(53:16):
College athletes have will and always have been treated better
than regular student athletes and oh yeah. By the way,
if everybody's taking their classes online, they're still taking their classes.
They are students athletes. They are doing the exact same thing,
only they're getting the benefit of living in whatever sort
of bubble you have in a college campus. College football
as well, can be done, is being done. And you

(53:39):
can sit here and tell me, like, well, football, there's
a lot more. No, no, no, you can't get any
more contact sport, not collision sport, contact sport than basketball.
If it can be done in basketball, it can be
done in football. No pads, no helmets, no gloves. Oh
there's that one time he would there's no such thing

(54:00):
as a glove. There's a shooting glove you can use
as a you know, technique, but nobody wears gloves. So
it's not simple. It's really expensive. But if you can
pay the outlay, then you can manage it. And they
have had guys who have tested positive previously be quarantined,

(54:24):
show up, be tested and have not tested positive again.
It actually works. Look, it's about following protocols, it's about
spending the money, it's about being vigilant. It's about having
a hotline that scares people the but Jesus out of
not following those protocols. All of these things do in
fact matter, and somehow when I point this out, I

(54:47):
get labeled like Clay Travis, Like No, Clay Is plays
in a different realm. He's not a denier of COVID,
but he believes that the reaction to the numbers it
is we're massively overreacting to the numbers. He on some
level has compared to the common to to the to
the flu, which it's not. It's not close to the flu.

(55:09):
It's far spreads, far quicker, and it's far more dangerous. Right. So,
but I'm I'm sitting here telling you that even if
you're super super super concerned, if you want to tell
me it can't be done, why is it being done

(55:29):
in the NBA bubble, They've been down there almost a month,
almost a month. With that mind, if you can be
down there for this long and play that many basketball games,
now that many practices, and they do have some interaction
with people who are in the outside world, right like

(55:49):
some of the people that make their food, that take
care of the properties. They're not all living on on
campus in Orlando. They not don't run, do they get
temperature checked and test did probably regularly. Sure, Sure, And
if you want to tell me that football there's too
many together. There's a lot more guys like okay, but
you're they're not. You don't have to manage their interaction

(56:12):
with each other like you do with the NBA. You know,
the NBA's traveling parties, you're talking about thirty five people
a team, whereas the NFL's traveling parties will be in
the sixties or seventies probably, and you have far fewer games,
far fewer interactions with one another. Can absolutely be done.

(56:33):
Even in baseball where you have the outbreak, the Phillies
haven't caught in it, Buck would. No other teams have
positive tests, and we still don't know how they got it.
And the likelihood is somebody broke protocol. Right, there's some
unconfirmed rumors that some guys broke protocol, and that's suspected
to be you know, you go out in Atlanta and

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Daniel Jeremiah joins us in the dug Out Lip Show
on Fox Sports Radio. That's my thing, even with the
NFL guys, probably more so in college because in college

(57:16):
you can actually be isolated even more. But like the
NFL guys are opting out, I mean, are they trying
to make us believe that they're gonna quarantine at home?
Because if you don't quarantine at home, you catch this
thing when you're going to the store, you're out of
a restaurant, you're at you know, playing with the kids,
have a playdate. Like, I feel like I feel like
they don't understand how much safer they are when they're

(57:36):
constantly being monitored and when people put in protocols to
keep them safe. Yeah, it's interesting and talking to some
somebody's and personnel departments around the league about their confidence
about everything, I usually get the great similar answer, which is,
we feel pretty good about when they're in the building
that we're gonna be able to, um, keep everybody safe

(57:57):
in the protocols are really really good. Um, we're just
worry about when they leave the building. You know, what
what happens from that standpoint. So that kind of goes
a little bit along lines of what you're saying there.
I do think though, with the college kids, it's a
little bit different because I don't think they have even
though you could say, okay, there's no students on campus,
they don't have nearly the same resources that the NFL

(58:17):
does in terms of the daily testing and to be
able to do all the different measures to keep everybody
uh safe. I don't think that, even in a quote
unquote college bubble, that they have, you know, the same
type of resources the NFL does. Uh, you don't think
the college does. I don't. I mean the NFL is
testing every day. I think the colleges they're talking about
testing once a week. I mean that's that's a that's

(58:39):
a big difference. Yes, um, yes, but the guys aren't
going home to be with their families. Right You're on
it again. Most of these colleges right now, there's no
students on campus. So you know, it's regards. Do you
think we haven't in a full NFL season? I do.
I do. I've always I've been up the belief if

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we can get to the starting line, that will find
a way to navigate through it and have to have
the resolve to be able to um, you know, deal
with something you know similar to what's happened with the Marlins.
I mean, hopefully it's not that that number of guys,
but you're gonna have teams where you're gonna have some
of these smaller outbreaks and and I hope that, you know,
I'm confident I should say that the NFL will have

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a better handle on how to deal with it when
that happens, and to be able to keep things moving
that wouldn't involve the text message vote whatever they had
with the Marlins, which was crazy. Uh, But I think
I do. I think we get to the starting line.
I think we'll find our way to the finish line.
Danny Jeremiah guest Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Why the

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why the number of Patriots shutting it down? Yeah, you know,
I know there's some conspiracy theories out there about you know,
Belichick and trying to you know, trying and tank the
season to to get the number one overall pick or
to be able to get a quarterback next year's draft.
But I personally don't buy any of that. Um, it's
hard and we've seen it. We've seen it with the Dolphins.

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It was tanked for two of before the season started
last year, and they couldn't ended up getting it, ironically,
but they couldn't even get up near the number one
overall pick. So um to me, I don't buy that
their team. They have too many other good players on
the defensive side of the ball. The head coach is
too good. I mean, even if if you know they
were to lose another handful of players, I don't see
how this team, uh you know, loses you more than

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eight or nine games. I mean, they're they're just death
not gonna happen. So I don't buy the conspiracy theory.
I think it's more along the lines of, you've got
guys that have already accomplished a lot. You're Dante Hi Tower,
You've made a ton of money. You've got I think
he's got three Super Bowl rings. Um, you know taking
a year off is you know that doesn't sound like
it is bad an idea for somebody like that. Uh okay,

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So how does it affect the level of play? The
quality of play? Oh? I think we're gonna see an impact.
I mean not just with the Patriots. I think you'll
see it around the league, you know, especially early in
this season. I think it Normally we always talk about
the first two to three games of the regular season.
Really service in the preseason because that's the time where
the starters are actually getting out there and the tackling suffers,
and usually two or three weeks and you'll start to

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see clean up. I think that there might be a
little bit more, you know, maybe we're talking three or
four weeks into the season where we'll see some sloppy play,
but they'll, yeah, you know, it'll get figured out. I
think some people assume, you know, this is like the
fifties and when these guys are away from the facility
that they're you know, driving a cab or working at
a butcher shop, like these guys have been getting premier,

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first class training. The majority of them, Uh, they're not
gonna come in. I don't think we see a ton
of guys come out of shape. We'll have a handful, um,
but I think they'll get it up and go on
here within the first three or four weeks where the playoffs,
the quality of play will return. All right. Let let
me ask you about the Mike Sando article where he
pulled guys and got the quarterback tiers. Is it me
or is Drew Brees living a little bit on reputation.

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Well he's not. He's not the Drew Brees that he was,
you know, that's for sure. Um. And they've started pull
him back a little bit of the responsibility that they
put on him in that offense. So, um, yeah, he's
I think you can make a case that maybe he's
a little bit higher than than he should be. But
you know, I always when it comes to these lists,

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Dug to me, there's two lists. Are you a championship
level quarterback or you're not a championship level quarterback? And
I still put I still think Drew Brees is capable
of winning a championship. I'm going to disagree with you
because I I think if we look at the last
two playoff losses, um, you know, I mean the the
Rams game for example, Like, look, he didn't play well.

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I mean the the first down throw was a bad one,
that's what That's what made the third down throw that
was past interference. And by the way, the third down
throw was the wrong side of the guy right, it
was it was off. Um. And then this year he
wasn't good in the playoffs against the Vikings. He wasn't
good enough. He just wasn't. And you know, that's what
you talk about championship football. He did not have it.

(01:02:57):
Yeah I would. I would give him a little bit
of a path a year when you have surgery on
your thumb. Uh. You know I'm gonna give him a
little bit of a pass on that one. So let's see.
I can't argue with having a four game in the UH,
in the Rams game, in the in the championship game.
But you know I I just look at it and say, Okay,
Drew Brees gives me his best. If he gives me
his best, um, I think they're still capable of win

(01:03:18):
a championship. So I'll have to wait and see. We'll
see what it looks like this year. Dania Jeremiah joining
US Joey Boss contract too much. It's a lot of money.
But I tweeted it out and that when you when
you check all these boxes, when you're looking at somebody
that's at a premiere position, which to meet, you know,
pass Rushan's the second most important position in football. Premiere
position dominates against the run, dominates against the past. UH.

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It plays extremely hard and he's a great teammate who's
beloved in the building. Those are the ones you don't
mind paying a little extra for maybe you know, getting
labeled as an overpay. But do you remember the you know,
miles are agape when when like the Aaron Donald's contract
came in. It's the same point. And we've been talking
about this forever with like the Dak Prescott thing, you
know last year. You know, oh, you can't pay him

(01:04:04):
that that's too much money. I'm like you guys, just wait,
just wait this wait. You know, twelve twenty four months,
these contracts all are going to be outdated. Um, so
to see where he is above some of those other names,
I think surprising some people. But he's just the next guy,
and when the next guy comes in, he'll go right
over the top. Well, but it's also part of what
the Chargers are going to try and do. Now if

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it all depends on if the quarterback can play eventually, right,
but you have a quarterback on a rookie contract, that's
when you can load up with long term, big deals
for your for your most talented guys, and then you know,
kind of like the Chiefs have done, like the Cowboys
have done, like the Rams have done. But then when
that contract hits you better, you know, you better have

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drafted well, because now that that's where you're kind of
supporting cast comes from. And this is like the start
of the clock. And this is why, you know, it's
got to be a little bit frustrating if you're on
the jet side of things, because I'm fortun really you know,
Joe got there late. So Joe starting that process now
of trying to build around the young quarterback. But I mean,

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Sam's gonna get his pay day here before they have
a chance to do that. Tom Telesko is in a
much better place with his roster right now where he
can lock key guys down and then even be a
little bit aggressive in free agency over the next couple
of years. And you've got that you know, four year window,
five year window to really really make aggressive moves for
your franchise. And it just happens to coincide with being

(01:05:28):
in a brand new building in a new city. And um,
you know, like I'm biased, I called the game's doug
as you know, but this, uh, to me, this is
kind of a good sign that this is the first
domino to fall of them locking up this young nucleus. Yeah,
the other one, Hunter Henry's got that that deal's gotta
get done too, right. Yes, he's on a franchise tag
right now. Um, they took care of Austin Ekeler. I
think that kind of went under the radar um with

(01:05:51):
with getting him locked in. They got Mike Williams, who's
gonna be coming up soon and and uh, you know
he's a key part of what they do. And you've
got Derwin James stuff in the horizon, and so that
to me is kind of that's a that's a darn
good young nucleus to build around. We haven't talked. Um,
was there a winner in the Jamal Adams trade or
is it just like to me, my takeaway was it's

(01:06:11):
refreshing to see the Jets run by a professional who
can get at or above value for for your best player. Yeah,
it was a no brainer for the Jets. I mean,
this is um, you know, it's an opportunity for them
to build the foundation. I don't know if it resuscitation
is the right word for the franchise, but this was
much needed because there's just too many holes. There's too

(01:06:32):
many holes on that rosters and just take the picks
that you're given by the commissioner every year and try
and fill them. They'll take you three or four years
to get that done. Now, this just speeds up the
whole process. I mean, they have a chance to get
four blue players in the next two drafts. You know
which are which are upper echelon Pro Bowl caliber players.
Uh And and they get a chance to put him
at the key positions. When Joe Douglas got there, they

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had they had need to need two tackles, they needed
two corners, They needed to edge ushers. At least they
have the quarterback. Now they've got the left tackle this year.
Um And now with these picks, you'll see them. They're
gonna go shop and they'll get another tackle, to get
a couple of corners. They'll get some edge rushers with
these picks. Um. And now you've got it. You've got
a chance. You don't have a chance when you don't
have good players at those spots. What about Seattle. Seattle

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is a it's a timing thing, right, you know? Do
I love this trade in a vacuum to you know,
kind of a box safety to give up what they
gave up. No, But when you have a you know,
sixty soon to be sixty nine year old head coach,
you've got a quarterback in his prime, and you can
make the justification that if we you know, if we
if we can get an extra yard, there was a

(01:07:39):
yard difference there, Um that gets them over the forty
niners and potentially make a run last year. So they
feel like they're close, and from the timing standpoint, they're
they're pushing their chips all in and I think that's, Uh,
that's something that's exciting in sports. I like it when
people aren't afraid to do that. Yeah, I do as well.
Um is he How good is he? He's really good? Man.

(01:08:01):
It's just to me, he's gonna be more valuable to
a team like Seattle than some of the other teams
around the league. Uh, you know, because they'll know what
to do with him. They've had that type of a player. UM. Traditionally,
to me, I'm not trading multiple ones unless I'm getting
somebody takes the ball away a lot more than that. Um,
that would be the drawback to the trade. But you know,
he's a he's a tone setter, and he's he kind

(01:08:23):
of fits that alpha male that has done really well
under Pete Carroll both at usc UM and with the Seahawks.
So I think it's a tremendous fit. I don't think
that that's a that's a trade. A lot of other
teams could have justified. Awesome stuff. Daniel Jeremiah. Check out
to Move the Sticks podcast with Bucky Brooks. It's great.
He's great. Hope you're healthy and well. Thanks for joining us.

(01:08:43):
Healthy and well. Shoot, Doug Potters are four and one.
I'm healthy and well. You like that. I love that
the throwback color, new uniforms. What do you think? Thank you?
They are tremendous. It is awesome. Doesn't like him? Like, yeah,
what what is wrong with him? Can you tweet him?
By the way, because I need more more? You know
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sponsored by weed companies. I just I want to point

(01:09:06):
that out. I like the brown man. Why can't they
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(01:09:32):
stuff in college football. First, Doug gottlip here, I don't
know about you, but I'm ready to leave the house
and we discover the road first ever. Masda c X
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(01:09:54):
C has not done about faced, but made some adjustments
here ajustment. The season's first game will take place between
September seven and twelfth, so let's moving it back a week.
Two thousand twenties. Scheduling model will be eleven games ten
plus one, ten conference games, one non conference game. All

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non conference game opponents selected by the respective school must
be played in home state of the a c C institution,
and all non conference opponents must meet the medical protocol
requirements agreed to by the a c C. Eleven games
will be played over at least thirteen weeks, with each
team having two open dates. There will be just one division.
Notre Dame will also play a ten game conference schedule

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and be eligible to compete for the two thousand twenty
a CC Football Championship. I'm just gonna tell you this
a huge win for the If they pull this off,
huge win for the a c C. They get no
Tre Dame and you can sit there and go like, go,
No Dame is gonna be really good this year. They
were really good last year and more than anything, like, look,
you got the a c C network that brings I

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even if they don't have Notre Dame games. So I
think they'll have a couple on the a SEC network,
which is fledglings newly. People are like, man, I gotta
have my CEC network. They are gigantic TV poll gigantic
from Sports Illustrated, the SEC is moving closer to an
agreement on a conference only schedule of ten games. Of course, right,

(01:11:21):
we ain't playing that eleventh game, so Clemson won't play
South Carolina, right, multiple sports sources told Sports illustrat During
the virtual meeting on Wednesday, a majority of athletic directors
approved the idea of an SEC only ten game schedule. However,
the schedule must be ratified by league presidents. The SEC
presidents are expected to meet virtually on Thursday and seriously

(01:11:42):
discussed the matter. It is unclear if they will vote
then or delayed decision for a week. If the a
SEC does that. My guest would be the SEC will
follow suit and want to do one un conference game.
The guess this is big, But again, the logic behind
it is when when everybody's following the same protocols, we

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have a very strong likelihood of success. That's what you've
seen in the NBA, that's what we've seen for the
most part of Major League Baseball, and and obviously the
differences this like everyone's like, well, you know, you know
one kid like, look, you got a week leading up
in between games, so your test test test, and kid
pops up positive. Sorry, can't play in the game. Quarantine him,

(01:12:29):
and then you know you quarantine you ever test positive,
they don't make the trip. It's the best we can do.
Let's get to what Fox said. Patient one in the
NBA's Rudy Gobert. He was on the Dan Patrick Show
talking about social media and they hate he received after
testing positive for COVID nineteen. I definitely had that feeling

(01:12:50):
on social media. You know, people were, yeah, I had
a lot of messages or negative messages, and you know,
I tried to put my mind away from that because
you know, people are going to without really knowing what
happened or knowing the situation, and at the same time,
you know, there was a lot of fear. You know,
there was a lot of anger. You know, people were
just let me you know, people were scared and uh

(01:13:10):
and you know someone always got to be blamed. Yeah,
I mean, look, he did rub his hands all over stuff,
and he wasn't he was a guy, he was a dude. Whatever.
But we also don't know if he gave it to
his teammate or his teammate gave it to him. We
actually don't actually know that. Regardless of which. The idea
that people say these things to others on social media

(01:13:33):
is it's always amazing, Like you'll make a comment like
I make one yesterday about with all respect to guys
who are who are opting out like they do realize
they're probably safer actually opting in. You get the most
vile comments and again like he got COVID, who knows
how he got it, and he didn't want to catch it.
He didn't think he had it, and that's why he

(01:13:54):
messed around. But this social media, it does this thing
where it flips over from being so incredible and so
useful to such a cess pool, cesspool of of illicit
language and commentary, Fox say, oh boy, oh boy, all right,

(01:14:16):
so we got the A C. C Plan coming together.
I love that. I love love love, love love love that.
Speaking of love, lawyers, astros, what did you think was
gonna happen? Well, I'll tell you what I thought was
gonna happen. Exactly what happened. So do we have problem

(01:14:37):
with it? Way to hear what major League Baseball said
to the Dodgers about what happened, and why major League
Baseball even admits they knew it was gonna happen. Baseball
is back to being normal and why that's a great thing.
Next in the Dug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Fox
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Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot
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Fox Smog Radio. You know you just you want things
to feel normal, right don't you? And and normal can
be one of those words. Do you have any words

(01:15:21):
that you don't like? That are They're common words in
the English language? Right? You have you have anywhere? I
have friends that don't like the word moist. I just
I'm not comfortable with the word moist moist ah just
makes me uncomfortable. But moist moisture M. You know, it's
like something's not dry, it's not wet moist. Yeah, I

(01:15:46):
don't know. I don't like that. No, I don't like
that word. Okay, normal can be a a that's like fine,
how are you fine? Fine? Chief, like all kind of
how it's enunciated. But fine is fine normal? I'm fine
this normal? But it is when when we've been so abnormal,

(01:16:12):
we've been so all over the map, sometimes it's good
to have normal. A day after the Marlins have an
outbreak of COVID nineteen seventeen, members of their team at
tested positive for the virus. In that day or the

(01:16:33):
day after, we got a bean boll war, Right, it's awesome.
Joe Kelly took it upon himself to be the writer
of all wrongs. Should be pointing out that Joe Kelly
wasn't on the Dodgers when they lost in the World
Series to the Astros, but he was with the Red Sox,
who then hired Joey Cora from the It's very confusing. Nonetheless, Sorry,

(01:16:57):
Alex Cora, I have I've had that I get that
the core is confused. But Alex Cora gets tirried away
from the Astros. He becomes the skipper of the Red Sox.
Then he gets fired before he ever actually manages the game.
And of course Dusty Baker gets the job because of
the changes in Houston. Nonetheless, Joe Kelly became the the um.

(01:17:20):
He became the who would be the most known ramos?
You could help me with this in like spaghetti westerns
or in any Western, like who's the most known vigion
vigilante in movie them? Ah, Spaghetti Western, didn't Spaghetti Western?
The death wish I guess would be Charles Bronson. Bronson

(01:17:45):
huh um. Anyway, I saw this. This is great and
we have breaking news in a second about it. This
from Bob Nightingale the USA Today. The Dodgers manager Dave
Roberts said that he got a call from MLB officials
and expects the decision sooner soon on Joe Kelly. He
also said that MLB officials weren't pleased with players and

(01:18:06):
staff not observing the social distance protocols. Yeah, the bean
ball thing will handle, but man, you guys are too
close to another. Why because Major League baseball knew this
was about to happen. Let's check in with Dan Buyer.
He's got an update on on on this. This upbreaking story,
breaking news from Fox Sports. Yeah, Doug, this just in.

(01:18:29):
Dodgers pitch of Joe Kelly received an eight game suspension
for his actions during last Dance game against the Astros
in Houston. He was previously suspended in his career for
intentional throwing and has obviously doubled down on that Yesterday.
In addition, Dodgers manager Dave Roberts received a one game
suspension as a result of Kelly's actions. So eight games

(01:18:54):
for a lot of games. Dodgers skipper Dave Roberts gets
one game. Uh, well, he he didn't hit anybody, really,
I mean, but he threw at Bregman and Korea unless
I'm in if I'm missing who who hit Bregman? Was
a three and oh pitch. Yes, David Roberts is gonna

(01:19:16):
certainly he didn't hit anybody and he gets he gets
eight games. Yes, they determined that his prior record of
intentional throwing. He's always intentional with the throwing. He's a picture.
But I'm I'm messing with you. I'm messing with the
with the state. Right, Dusty Baker was fined for the

(01:19:39):
actions of his club, So that this is this is
inherently the problem in MLB not doing anything to the
players when they were banging on trash cans and and
help him win a World Series. Right, it's like, you're
gonna be trusting now, you're gonna spend a guy, you know,
basically one seventh of the season and he didn't even
hit anybody and he struck crea out. That that's that's

(01:20:05):
a that's the equivalent of a twenty two games suspension
in a hundred six two games because it's only sixty games.
So yeah, I don't I that's that's of more than
the baseball is saying like, nah, we ain't doing that.
What's interesting, though, is, and I'm sure some of it
is it causes guys to not social distance. Right. That

(01:20:30):
feels super hard. Baseball does not feel the way Doug
got leep ink does that got the banks like a
baseball you know, polices itself. What they don't want to
be is a season long. Every time an astro steps
into the batter's box, they get they get the tower bust,
they get the tower bust. So am I wrong? Buyer?

(01:20:50):
Did that seems more than harsh? Well, I think that
people will say that Joe Kelly got more than any
of the Astros did for you know, their role in
the scandal. I think is what you're going Roberts got more.
Dave Roberts got more than anybody. Dusty Baker just got
the job and now has to take up for his
fine specifically, I don't know if it was the fine
for the Astros leaving the bench, if it was you know,

(01:21:12):
any social distancing stuff, but the uh Roberts, by the way,
in a service suspension. Kelly is appealing his suspension, but
the I mean, yeah, it is a lot. I I
guess to your point, it's like, yeah, they want this
to end now. But also then it's well major League Baseball.

(01:21:32):
Maybe it wouldn't have changed things if they were to
receive a penalty, But I do think that the lack
of penalty for the Astros um allowed this to more
than likely happen is a bad look. Like I I
and I fully understand what they're trying to do. They're
trying to go like, hey, we just can't have this
all the time, you know, we can't can't do it.

(01:21:53):
We can't function, we can't do the social media social
distancing Protocol, we can't do all this stuff. But eight
games is too much? Yes, ryme, do we think that
they chose eight as a benchmark for anyone or specifically
because he's a picture they know that really only means
like one. But it's different now though, because guys aren't
guys aren't doing the starters are different than they used

(01:22:15):
to be. Yes, I would say if it was it
was again traditionally, if you were suspended twenty two games,
that would be what five starts you'd miss? Okay, five starts,
which again would be super harsh, super harsh, and is
eight you know, could you be missing two starts? Yes,
but you also could be they're they're using pictures differently

(01:22:37):
now than they than they traditionally do. Mus brought up
a good point. It's not technically a starter, right, he's
a reliever, so I guess he's gonna's probably about three games.
I would say like starters, like starters would get the
six game ban because then you'd have to miss their
you know, start in their rotation more times than not.
That they would work around it. But again they're saying.

(01:22:59):
They're saying repeat offender. When it comes to Joe Kelly
that that was the reason why repeat fender repeats thrower
of the baseball like, yeah, I throw the baseball all
the time, intentional thrower. Yes, I intentionally thought intentionally throwing
at somebody else. Oh you didn't say that, Well, I
saw it. I liked it. I just I think that's

(01:23:20):
one of the cool things about baseball. Within reason, Right,
there's all these things within reason. And you don't hit
a guy above the neck. If you have, you throw
up behind him just so he knows, he knows what
you meant to do. I'm okay with that. That's how
baseball police itself. We're pissed, We're still pissed. We haven't forgotten.

(01:23:41):
Everybody else might have forgotten, we haven't forgotten. I got
no issue with it. Eight games. I do have an
issue with Like I think in COVID, a substantial punishment
is five five. It's a lot. That's a lot. I
don't like. What I saw. Could be the only one

(01:24:01):
I know you liked it, Ramos, what about you? Buyer
Buyers more of a Brewers fan. By the way, the
Brewers new uniforms are amazing. Thanks. I got the new
Brewer's shirt on today with the I I was actually
on this. I have no dog in the fight. I
got a kick out of what Joe Kelly did, like
and I think that Alex Bregman realized, all right, okay,
this is this is maybe this is going to be it.

(01:24:24):
I don't think that Alex Bregman should go up to
the plate every time thinking that he's going to have
his head taken off. But I don't think that Kelly
was aiming for his head either. I think that, I mean,
I just think he wanted to throw one over his
head to send a message, yep message and the message
was received like sometimes you get like all right messages received.
Did he go a little over the top. He went
a little over the top, didn't actually hit anybody. It's

(01:24:46):
really like to get I mean, that's almost like O
J went to jail for stealing his own stuff back.
That was that's pretty night like you're going to You're
you're getting suspended for throwing at somebody but not actually
hitting them, and you're getting a substantial suspension in a
shortened season. That seems a bit harsh, a bit harsh.

(01:25:07):
MLB insider Bob Nightingale joins the show up coming next?
Did he think the punishment was too much? Where? Did
he enjoy what he saw the way I did? That's
how coming next. Be sure to catch the live edition
of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Easter
noon Pacific. Doug gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. How that tweet? Land?
Is that any good? Or should I? What do you
think they're I'm bad? Let me read the tweet to

(01:25:32):
you by Are you get your mic on? And now
you got? I love you guys in this discussion? Are
you not here? Okay? Um? If only the astrosn't begged
the trash cancer that Joe Kelly was thrown at him.
I don't know. I just I had to figure out
a way in a short period of time to come
up with a with a tweet in regards to all right.
In fact, Doug, did you like? Did you like? Retweet

(01:25:56):
like and retweeted? There's one I liked the retreating Uh?
I do follow buyer? So maybe buyer who went, you know,
I went to have a cup of coffee? Um, maybe
he liked it. I don't know, I do I it's funny,
like I don't understand. I'm on one hand, when you're
running things your Major League Baseball you're like, look the

(01:26:19):
social distancing, and we've got to lay down the law
because we can't have guys everybody throwing a bragmant everybody.
But this is a very specific case, right. It's one
of the things about president that we use president in
the court of law, but they don't really use president
that much in baseball suspensions. But they're trying to throw
out a precedent. Hey, eight games he'd previously thrown at

(01:26:41):
guys who got suspended before. We just can't have this
happen all the time during quarantine. We've got enough issues
with quarantine already with the Marlins. We don't need anymore.
Plus we've got enough egg on our face with the
Astros not having the World Series taken away. We we
we can't have this every time an Astro gets into
the batter's box. But eight games in a sixty game season,

(01:27:05):
it's too much. It's too much, especially considering because of
the the proximity of the games, all of these arms
are gonna be used more often for less innings and
the per game like they'd almost almost be better off
to say he can't pitch for the next I don't know,
thirty five innings. Yes, right, us. So they did mention

(01:27:28):
that part of this suspension is due to taunting, and
you've seen some of the gifts and viral videos of
what he did afterwards. So do we think that has yeah,
has had he just throne at the players and very
solemnly just walked off the field. Do we think that

(01:27:50):
would have fallen more in line with like a understandable
maybe four to five games suspension. But because of his
trash talk, it clearly elevated the situation to where both
teams sort of felt like they were going to getting
each other's faces and potentially fight. I do think starting
striking out Carlos cray At and the end he was
pretty as a ball. Or move right there, right, you

(01:28:12):
are allowed to hit the ball out of the ballpark
and then give the old give the old cadillac around
a Cadillac around the field by or did you see
my tweet yet? Yeah? I liked it? Do you actually
liked it or you just liked it? Liked it? Well,
everybody was going to lodge just went No, it was
not it was good. It was good. By the way,

(01:28:33):
trash talk usually doesn't happen in baseball, so this is
sucking to me. Trash talk usually doesn't happen with trash cans.
But the representative buyer, do we think, do we think
this is not Nobody feels bad for the Astros. Not
only did they not get suspended, nobody got hit. Nobody
got hit. Do you think this did a good enough

(01:28:56):
job to deter people from throwing at them? Or do
you think someone else is gonna? You know, all right,
I volunteer, I'm your Hucklebara. I think that it was
fitting because it was the Dodgers, and people tried to say, oh, well,
you know Joe Kelly was on the Red Sox team
that you know Houston eliminated playoffs. It's yeah, it's the

(01:29:19):
simple fact that the Dodgers and Astros played in that
World Series and the Astros won. That's that's why shipping
Kershaw right, Kershaw should have handle his own business. I
do feel like that k Kershaw was the one who
gave up the home runs. You know, Kershaw was the
one who feel they feel like has been done the
most wrong should have been Kershaw. I do think that.

(01:29:40):
But hey, Greg, Joe Kelly, it's a good way to
it's a it's a good way. Um the I'm yr Hucklebarrett.
You know what that's from, right, Ramos, I know what
it's from. Yes, from Tombstone. You've seen. I mean Val
Kilmer has awesome that movie. He's awesome in that movie,

(01:30:01):
Awesome top Gun, like a handful of movies. But he
was good in Heat, Yes, very good in Heat. Not
a beloved actor by his fellow actors, right, Like, he's
a he's a different kind of cat. He's a kind
of sewer of the trait of you know, he's not
he's what he's like. He thinks his poops. So I
was like Rose, he's a. Yeah, he's a. He's a

(01:30:24):
unique character. And he's a unique character. That's a great
way of putting. By the way, real genius. If you
want to see one of his first movie is a
very good movie to watch for Val Kilmer, real real genius.
I think I've actually seen that one, because doesn't he
take like ice and make them machine? Never seen Tombstone though?

(01:30:45):
Um you so, John, here's the question most people have
always thought, it's a'm your Hucklebara but I've been told
and it makes a lot more sense that I'm your Hucklebara.
You know this about this controversy. I have not heard
that controversy. I am with you. I don't know if
I'm with you, but I believe it was the first one.
That's what everybody always says. I'm your Hucklebart. It's I'm
your Hucklebarra Bara, Yeah, because the hu bearer huckle bearer

(01:31:11):
is like you carry somebody's casket. Okay, Hucklebara. So he's
challenging into a duel and I'm your huckleberry. Sounds good?
But how would huck Finn come into play? Right? It
doesn't make any sense, Hucklebara? He does? You didn't read
the chapter where Nut pistol And I'm gonna be honest

(01:31:37):
with you, I've never read Tom Sawyer really, I mean
we were supposed to read it. It doesn't make sense.
Just just listen to the song. That's all you need.
So John, do you, I mean, maybe you should go
back and watch this and tem what do you think
Johnny Ringo? Was John ring Johnny Ringo? What did? What? What? Was?

(01:32:00):
Val Kilmer played? Um? What's his name? Yes? Now, because
we're thinking about it. We totally forgot it. What's his name? Yes,
very hold on, very very famous part of the movie,
very very famous. Um dot Holiday, Yes, played dot Holiday.

(01:32:25):
So what was doc Holiday suffering from? What was that
holiday suffering from? Typhoid? Wasn't it tuberculos? Tuberculos got the right?
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Nightingale right for USA Today covers Major League Baseball. Have
you seen the movie Tombstone? Bob? I'm sorry? Have you
seen the movie tomb Stone? And you know I don't
think I have? All right, Well, don't you watch it?
You've got plenty of time now, Okay, Well, let's let's

(01:33:06):
move to baseball. Joe Kelly eight games feels harsh to us,
especially considering he didn't actually hit anybody. What's your reaction? Well,
I mean, if it's a regular hearsy games season that
translates about three weeks twenty two days multiply two point seven,

(01:33:27):
it is a harsh penalty, but you know what basically
baseball wants. It sends a message like, hey, during the
pandemic here, too many guys got together. Uh you know
by the bench there with the social distancing, a bunch
of guys got sick. See, you're risking people's lives here.
So aunt you said, you know what, We're gonna come on,
We're gonna come down hard on you. And whoever drives

(01:33:48):
this again, the same thing is gonna happen. Bob night
Gale joining us in the Doug Gotlip Show. Yeah, but
I mean, like, dude, twenty two games is crazy, is really,
especially considering how pictures are being used differently. Um uh
could couldn't the argument be made? Hey, it is the Dodgers.
I know Joe Kelly was on the Red Sox at
the time that they played in the World Series, But

(01:34:09):
it is the Dodgers, and they have every right to
be a little bit more tick than everybody else. Well
they do, but this is a normal season and we're
gonna playing the middle of pandemic. And I think the
Baseball imagor League Baseball officials freaked out when they saw
everybody kind of hold around. If some guys have got
to a fight there and you're rolling on the ground.

(01:34:29):
Who knows what to happen? You know, I'm not wearing masks,
so I think, you know, more of a safety issue
as as well, like, hey, we're not going to tolerate this, guys.
Bob night Gale joining us Doug Otlib show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Let me ask you about about the Marlins. UM,
still no confirmation as to how they can How have
somebody contracted COVID Any word on on where they are

(01:34:51):
and tracing it. No, they're still trying to find that out.
Marlin's investigating, MLB is investigating. UM. It certainly looks could
happen in Atlanta. I mean they were all part I
mean negative when they flew to Atlanta and then uh,
something happened there and they flew them uh Philadelphia, and
it started to spread. But you know, no umpire, Uh

(01:35:14):
we's sick, Atlanta, brave, We's sick. Uh you know, no
flight attendants. So it seems like something happened Atlanta. Yeah,
we we We kind of tried to sit here and
examine it and figure you know, as much as there
are some that that wanted gloom and doom with the
positive tests. One, it had to be on some level expected, right,

(01:35:35):
and then the second part is, you know, others that
have followed protocols seem to have been avoiding this. Um,
this is more a story of of violating protocol than
it is that the system isn't gonna work. Yeah, exactly.
I mean it's a very positive sign that you know,
we only got one team sick obviously don't want any team,
but the fact it wasn't spreading and people sort of

(01:35:57):
freak out all it should on the sport like way,
mint know, you know, you've gotta be uh, you gotta
be careful here and uh, hey, maybe this happened to
the Yankees or Red sax or Dodger and say what
have you done to sport for a couple of weeks?
Those are Marlins or we're supposed to be competitive anyway.
But yeah, I think it's a sime relief. That's still nobody,
nobody for the last you know, since Thursday's tested positive

(01:36:18):
except for one organization. Yeah. Um so eighteen positive tests
for the Marlins, none for anyone else. Do gotlip show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's get to the play
on the field. Um, what's the reaction been like from
show Heyo Tani's poor start, just you know, just to start. Uh,
you know, he's coming back from the Tommy John, so

(01:36:40):
you gotta be careful. I mean it's probably a thing
where you know, it's a mental thing more than anything else,
just to cut loose and and be the show office talent.
So certainly he has it there, you know, no reason
a panic. It will it will be. It will come
just our non win. And obviously the big thing now
is to make sure guys stay relaxed and uh don't
get two anxious because the short season you start looking

(01:37:01):
at your numbers everything else. You know, I'm here in Houston.
George Springer, the free agent, got up to a dreadful start,
you know, and they they uh put him on the
Best to night just to try to relax them. You know,
when you're a free agent or armortunity knowsable, you're gonna
put a lot more pressure in yourselves knowing those numbers
you're gonna look. You know, you only get a small
sample size that put up numbers. What about Verlander, how

(01:37:23):
bad the injury? Well, they're i mean they're hoping he
could come back for the season, and but you know,
not looking good. Uh. You know we had a strain
in that forum. They don't know if it's just a
strain or a tear or what. Uh you know, out
for out for minimum two weeks, didn't re examine you know.
Finbably the earways did come back. If everything went right,

(01:37:43):
it would be four or five weeks. But you know
you're gonna take a chance with a guy like that.
So you know it's not looking good for sure, it
is not. I'll tell you what it is looking good? Um.
I love the Padres new uniforms and what helps if
the Padres are off to hot start. This is a
team where a lot of people thought, Hey, you know
who could be a sneaky contender is that the San

(01:38:04):
Diego Padres. How real is their start? No? Very well?
I mean beat up a good sad beat up a
good Arizona Times team. I have a lot of young
talent and we'll see how it plays out. And you've
got six team teams make the playoffs. You know, don't
know about their pitching. It's a team on the rise. Um.
You know, I thought people were getting carried the wait,

(01:38:25):
you know, with the with the White Sox, with the
Reds with the potterres thinking and these are you know,
young rebuilding teams. Uh, says an he has a lot
of new faces, no time to jail. And you know
the White Sox that reser ball struggling, but so part
of the potteries that can't look good. I mean certainly,
no matter what happened this year, is a team for
the future, no question. What's the what's the feeling like

(01:38:46):
on baseball with the extrating rules? Uh, just it's okay,
I think you know they would like to modify it, say, okay,
how many you're starting a twelfthening? Uh, thirteenth in here?
So in not the tentphening next year, you know, if
it's a round. So it does, uh, you know, it
does provides a sense of excitement, the always players saying,
you know, look, look, we have the most boring overtime

(01:39:07):
in baseball. You know, the other sports are much more exciting.
You know when our night getting ends, you know, fans
are hitting for the exits de barmony and growing the
press box and broadcast boots. So you know, let's say,
let's give us a chance. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I
guess I don't. It's it's it's one way. I don't
know if it does stay true to what baseball is though,

(01:39:28):
which is kind of the best part. I don't know
if it's always as born. There's still the you know
you have the when do you use your closer. I'll
tell you what I've seen is like sacrifice. Betting is gone.
No pictures, sack bunts are essentially extinct. I for for years,
you've tried to continue to teach kids to bunt, just
so they know how to bunt. Now there's no reason
ever to teach somebody how to butt. No except the

(01:39:50):
tempting rule. I mean that we haven't seen too much
of it yet, but we will. We want to run
our second day, you gotta move over to third and
just you know, need a sack fire. So so I
think it is still important for those extra inning games.
So you're right, we're not gonna see a whole lot
more without the pictures hitting. Um. Any details on Pat
Mahomes and the level of investment in the Royals, No,
I haven't heard that, and you know, I'm not sure

(01:40:12):
as much. Uh you know, it's more of a you know,
a pr thing. It's good to have a guy like involved.
Uh you know it's cool. I mean, Tom Brady was
never part of owner of the Patriots or anything like that. Uh,
you know, and I'm sure it's a small portion. Like
you know, I imagine Johnson's got a small portion of
the Dodgers, Jeter Jeter, a small portion of the Marlins.

(01:40:32):
So probably something like that. Yeah, Doug otlip show here
on Fox Sports Trade, that's a voice of Bob Nightingale.
I gotta tell you that I've enjoyed watching the games.
Do I do fans miss going out to the ballpark
and taking the family and whatever. Yes, But between the
cardboard cutouts, um and the the Teddy Bears and some
of the other stuff like it, it's felt like baseball.

(01:40:55):
But to somebody like you who's covered it for years,
how does it feel watching these games? Yeah? I just
range scrange not seeing anybody. And it's range not seeing
the players and managers and coaches, baseball scouts, things like that.
Uh you know, the fans, you know, they're you know,
piping in stuff like that, and you know, it's still weird.
The players have to see themselves up on their own,

(01:41:19):
but just different, more of an eerie feeling or more
of an empty feeling, you know, you feel like in
the backfield of a of a B game and spen
training that a major again, Yeah, I agree there it
does feel different, does feel weird. It's got to be,
especially in those uh cavernous not carnivers, cavernius stadiums. It's
got to just feel so uh so awkward. Um. Early

(01:41:41):
earlier turns on the Yankees, obviously John Carlos standing off
to a monster start, start hitting a couple of absolute bombs. Um,
how do the Yankees feel about how they look so far? Yeah,
I mean it's a port to go up to a
good start and uh and they have uh, they can
have a healthy judge, a healthy stanton. You know. Look out,

(01:42:02):
you know, little rocks mons Bombers are back. We'll see
about they're pitching outside. You're icole um. It should be
fun race. I mean, they can't be a razor very
good too. Uh but you know, let me think all
of a TV Networks and MLB office everyone else is
ringing for Yankee Dodger World series and surely that could happen. Yeah,
it's interesting, you know, And then you have the you

(01:42:23):
mentioned George Springer's tough start. Yellows is off to a
tough start. Uh Suarez is off to start, so is
Chris Brian and you have less time to get it going,
and so guys are off to quick starts. They will
benefit more so this year than any previous year. Bob,
thanks so much for joining us. Interesting day in baseball.
Can't wait to read what you write about Joe Kelly suspension.
Appreciate being our guests. Alright, pleasure is all mine. Doug

(01:42:47):
Otlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, coming
up next, we're gonna get to the press. We have
a college football player who has opted out. Right, we
got the baseball suspension. Oh yeah, I'm gonna baseball man,
massive baseball suspension. You just missed it. Joe Kelly eight games,

(01:43:09):
that's right, they only play sixty. He gets an eight
game suspension. So we'll get to both of those up
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the news that just broke within the last hour. Joe
Kelly of the Dodgers suspended eight games by Major League
Baseball for his actions last night against Houston. Kelly is

(01:44:13):
appealing that suspension. The league says it's harsh because Kelly
was already suspended in his career for intentionally throwing at
a batter Dave Roberts a one game band Dusty Baker
received a fine. That's fine that Major League Baseball says
eight is enough. Rights, there's the the old eight no

(01:44:35):
I think it's a way too much. The a c
C unveiled a plan to play football and Olympic sports
this fall that includes Notre Dame and Olympic sports. That
part is interesting, and Notre Dame's playing ten a c
C games in football, they will be eligible for the
SEC Championship Game. First games are gonna take place between
September seven through the twelfth, so that's actually after Labor

(01:44:57):
Day weekend. Each of the fifteen schools would be playing
ten conference games, with one non conference game, and all
playing in one division. In addition to having to bye weeks.
The nonconference game DOUG must be played in the home
state of the a c C school. Oh. Yes, that
means they can play a neutral site, but it has
to be the homestake, got it, Yes, you could have.

(01:45:19):
You know, I thought before this note that you mentioned
earlier about the SEC, I thought, okay, that would allow
Clemson to play at South Carolina if they needed. However,
as you pointed out earlier, SI dot Com says that
the SEC is moving closer to having a ten game
conference only schedule for the season in college football, which
would mean no Clemson South Carolina. No. Uh, you know, no,

(01:45:46):
Florida State Miami game. Right, you had no Florida Florida State.
You wouldn't have You would have Florida State Miami because
they're both in the a SEC, but you wouldn't have
Florida Florida State to be able to be played, which
you could under the A c c S planned if
you needed to some news from the Actually, we'll stick
with college football because Virginia Tech corner Caleb Fairly announced

(01:46:07):
he's ompting out of the college football season over health concerns.
He'll enter the NFL Draft. He's projected to be a
first round pick. I just I'm I don't get it.
I don't understand it. I don't understand. I don't understand
how NFL players can say I'm gonna you know, look

(01:46:29):
at NFL players, they that some have opted out. I
don't understand how a college will player could opt out
and say I don't feel like I'm safe when you're
gonna work out like I'm gonna work out on my own, Okay,
you're gonna go to a facility that is that is
sterilized and better taken care of than the Virginia Tech facility.

(01:46:50):
No way, it's not possible. That doesn't exist. So you're
gonna stay quarantine the whole year. No, I'm not gonna
stay quarantine. Well then then what do you do? And
you're not doing something for health and safety. You actually
just don't want to play football to hurt your stock,
that's what you really wanted. Chiefs running back Damian Williams
is opting out of the NFL season as his Giants

(01:47:11):
tackled Nate Solder. Yeah, Nates Soldier. Now he's had he
has little kids, right, he has one that's that that
has some health problems. Right, that's why he moved to
New York to begin with. So um and kind of
par for the course. He's the guy has made a
bunch of money, Damian Williams coming off of that Super Bowl.
But of course the Chiefs took Clyde Edwards Hilaire from

(01:47:32):
l s U in the first right to Damian Williams
that playing, Yeah, you mean the guy who should have
been the m v P. Yes, he's not playing the season.
He's opting out. That is correct. Well, that's huge news,
you said, Damie Williams. And forever, for some reason, I
just said to go, oh, Dami Williams I thought it
like there's somebody else. Nope, it's that Damian Williams. So yes,
he is. He is opting out, according to a statement

(01:47:56):
from chiefs GM Brett Veach. In the statement, Veach said, quote,
As an organization, we certainly understand respect knowing it was
made in the best interest of his family. I'm sure
he has some family issues or whatever. But like, dude,
what you They just drafted a running back like you

(01:48:17):
gotta go and ball out? I don't. I guess I
have a completely different view of this thing. And I
don't know Damie Williams family story with with with how
if somebody is sick or you know, he's got I
don't know, but that's a that's a stunner to me.

(01:48:37):
Twenty eight years old, the guy who was a tremendous
player at oe you for a short period time talent,
but he's coming off a great season. Man. That one.
That's crazy to me. Other NFL news, Titans passed Russia.
Vic Beasley didn't show up for a second straight day
of COVID nineteen testing with the Titans, and the Titans

(01:48:57):
have not heard from the pass rusher stories not been
in contact. NFL Network says that, yeah, right now, they
don't know why he hasn't showed up absent without leave
right yall umm, I like to assume that we think
he's got the Bruna. Could could be. Yeah, but there
are guys who are testing positively the Eagle and then

(01:49:19):
they just and then they just go and go in quarantine,
place them on the list, and yeah it's announced. So
like Scarlett Ard like walk around, shame, shame, shame, shame.
I I agree. You know when the Ezekiel Elliott positive
test came out and Doug, I'm like good, Like I understand, hippo,
you know rules and laws, but I mean, this is

(01:49:41):
this is what we need to know, like you know,
do you have it? Did you get treated? Are you clear? Okay,
let's go play football. Like again, that's this. This all
does go in line with like I don't understand guys
opting out, especially when they haven't gone there, like if
you go there and like ma in this is shady.
I'm out. I actually understand that more. And I understand

(01:50:03):
they gotta do it by like augu second, rugger third
or something like that. I just that part I don't
really get. So, you know, we started off talking about baseball.
In baseball, you had the reversal Nick Mark Cakis three
or four weeks ago, He's like, I miss baseball. He was,
he was concerned, he opted out. It was kind of
freaked out by Freddie Freeman's experience when Freeman tested Pondsit

(01:50:26):
different COVID nineteen. Now Mark Kekas is saying he wants in.
He's returned to the Braves and will play this season.
So different, different twists there. All right, you said one
more sleep, Doug, one more sleep. To the resumption of
the Pelicans. Forward Zion Williamson able to practice today at
light practice according to reports out of the Orlando bubble,

(01:50:47):
and there's a game time decision for the Pelicans game
tomorrow against the Utah Jazz. Like I kind of like that,
um guys coming out of the bubble, they come back.
So Zi Limpson is gonna play, right, I mean, that's
the whole reason that the only reason he got invited.
I only invite you to the party because Zion's come
into the party. So Zion, you gotta come to the party.

(01:51:08):
Anthony Davis looks like he's gonna be at the party tomorrow.
And I had expected to play against the Clippers despite
his eye injury. Yeah, I mean he got what he
got the uh he got the he got poked in
the eye, and he's fine. So the Lakers Clippers game.
But now the Clippers won't have Lou Williams, won't have

(01:51:29):
Montrez Harrald and won't have ut Patrick Beverly either. Right,
so Clippers a shell of themselves. I do think that
a lot of these got a lot of these teams
will have better camaraderie because you're just spending more time
around each other, which you would you couldn't possibly do
at home. So there will be some improvement, although not
clearly not the Clippers bag it out there and pressed

(01:51:51):
the press in the bad camaraderie, but just you know,
you get time to spend around each other and um, yeah,
that that makes that makes sense. Okay, So tomorrow, Um, tomorrow,
Ryan Holland's gonna join us. We'll get ready for the
games and then we can start, like we gotta start

(01:52:12):
doing something. We're putting money on some of these games.
You gotta make them, you gotta make it tasted. I
have buddies that are like, man, I was betting on
Korean baseball. Now I'm betting on baseball. I gotta start
betting on some basketball, or you need to go to
twelve star program. That's actually my take is the twelve STARp.
So anyhow, Um, look, Joe kelly suspension is too much.
I do understand that the violating the protocol of COVID

(01:52:38):
is a big part of it, and that he's a
repeat offender. But I also think it's the Dodgers. He
was with the Red Sox. They also lost to the Astros. Like,
all of those things do make sense, and baseball is
coming down way too heavy handed. I enjoyed it. Otherwise,
it's just a baseball game played with no fans. Now
at least they're throwing at dude's heads. Don't have to

(01:52:59):
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