Foul or no foul?!

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio on a fantastic Friday
as the Sweet six teen wraps up. I love these
days just like we love the Thursday at Friday of
last week. There's something about having games going on and
then knowing that there's another game going on as well.
But this is the last time we're gonna get that
because after tonight we'll be down to the Elite eight

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and then it's just individual games throughout for the n
C Double A Tournament. And last night there was some
overlap with what was happening in the West Region and Anaheim.
You had Gonzega against Florida State. Then when that game
wrapped up, many people turned their attention to what was
happening in Louisville, Kentucky as Purdue in Tennessee. And in fact,

(01:04):
I'll say this, I know Gonzaga and Florida State and
seemed like the Bulldogs kind of kept them at bay.
You were in Anaheim last night checking out that sweet
sixteen action, the way that Tennessee made their comeback, made
that must see TV. And for the entire second half
and then the overtime of that contest, you just you
couldn't look away. I almost think that Gonzaga Florida State
maybe got lost in the shuffle a little bit. Yeah,

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And the crazy thing is Gonzaga Florida State in real
time was a crazy game. Gonzaga with an eleven point
lead at halftime, Florida State cutting it to four with
four minutes to go. But it never felt like Florida
State could get that one stop, that one moment to
keep them in the game or to get them over
the hump. And so then naturally everybody turned their attention

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to Purdue Tennessee. I will tell you this, everybody in
the arena between games was fixated on that game. You know.
It's funny, Dan, because I think there were some technical
difficulties out in Anaheim, because well they kept pushing back
the start time of the second game in Anaheim, Texas
Tech Michigan, and I'm just sitting there assuming that it's
it's a you know, it's the bad phone from CBS

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saying we want all of our our audience on this
this Tennessee Purdue game. It turned out there were technical difficulties,
but I thought they keep pushing this game back. It's because, oh,
by the way, they want everybody focused on this Perdue
Tennessee game for right now. I know many people would
like technical difficulties with my mike, but it's not gonna happen.
It's going to be with you the next three hours.
And it was the ending of last night's Perdue Tennessee

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game in regulation that stood out. Here's how it sounded
on Westwood. Want the basketball has handed decline right now.
He's looking, he's looking, he has no timeouts, he's having
trouble throws. It's to Edwards. Edwards free in the clutter. No,
but there's a fall. They called the full on Tennessee
and Carson Edwards. It's gonna have free free throws with

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one point seven remaining. To give you a little behind
the scenes prior to the show, I had walked in
about two minutes prior to this story starting, and I
was talking with our executive producer Ryan music, and I said,
I just don't know how people could think that that
wasn't a foul. And then immediately after I said that,
Aaron Torres walked in, has that been in the studio

(03:13):
for about a hundred and twenty seconds and says, I
don't know how in the world you can call that
a follow Last night, you are all for team nonfoul
on that play. Embrace debate, UH, controversy ensues here in
the Fox Sports radio studio. So my stance on this
whole situation, and we're gonna break it down from a
million different angles, is I don't think that the foul

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call is the only reason why Tennessee lost the game.
It reminded me a lot of Saints Rams the past
interference which came back into light again this week. There
were many reasons why Tennessee lost this game, including missing
half of their fallow shot shooting fifty from the free
throw line. Ryan Klein has the career night. I just
know that LaMonte Turner, the player from and to see

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who quote unquote and I I'm using air quotes because
it wasn't a real foul he allegedly committed the foul.
I just know he jumped, he moved his body to
avoid Carson Edwards. All of a sudden, Carson Edwards foot
magically grazes LaMonte Turner. I just think it's one of
those we shouldn't encourage offensive players to do stuff like that,

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and so to me, I would have preferred to be
a no call. This is where I think, as you
you're looking at the play and you're looking overall, like
Carson Edwards body the way that he was turning, that's
how you take a jump shot. There are different leg
kicks that we've seen in the NBA a bunch of times,
and usually there to the left or to the right.
This was just a movement of Carson Edwards of swinging

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through and taking the shot, and I thought LaMonte Turner
got him on the hip. Like I didn't think that
there was any debate, and I don't think that there's
any debate, And that is a call that you have
to make in that situation, especially considering how much the
re point shot is a part of this game. This
isn't this isn't a forty foot shot. This is a
a shot from the corner that is going to decide it.

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And if you hit the guy like he body checked
him with his hip. It's an obvious foul. Rick Barnes,
even the Tennessee coach admitted that it was a foul
after after the ball, Rick Barnes hurting. My argument here.
You know, I was in Anaheim. I didn't see that.
Rick Barnes was came to came to Dan Buyers defense.
It was a quote, it was a foul. He missed
the shot, but LaMonte hit him after the shot. Well,

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LaMonte Turner disagrees, and I'm team LaMonte Turner here on
this one. No listen. I think it was a bang
bang play. I think it could have gone either way.
I just like to me, I just sit here and
I say, you know, a player is allowed kind of verticality.
And he jumped at Carson Edwards. I'm trying to re

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enact this in real time in my mind. He jumped
at Carson Edwards. But as soon as Carson Edwards turned
his body, LaMonte Turner turned his body. And you know,
my thing is is that you know as soon as
the play happened. But here's the thing. The other thing too,
is you reference the foule. But the ball was well
out of his hand before any physical contact happen follow

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follows happened on follow throughs all the time. They happened
on He hip checked him last night, and it has
to be made. That's an aggressive that's an aggressive verbiage
of hip check. I mean, you know this isn't throwing
somebody in the boards on the ice hockey rink here.
I mean it was. It was more of a hip
graze than a hip check. But if you see Carson

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Edwards body moved back from the contact, but Carson Edwards
also turned his hips into him part of the shot,
like that's how that's how you shoot. That's how you shoot.
You go straight up and then turn your hips. You're
a right handed shooter. Your right side of your body
is forward, it's not your left side. You're not your

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your right up as ahead of your left hip. And
that's where Carson Edwards was. So there's obvious contact there.
It's not him throwing it out. It's the nature of
a shot. So do we want to talk about the
push off to start the play that allowed him to
get that half an inch of open space? I mean,
to me, a hand jostling that was well, that's sir.
If that's hand jostling, then I don't see a hip check.

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By the way, we're watching this in real time, but
I'm sure everyone's seen the replay. My whole thing is
it's bang bang, there's push. You know, it's like holding
in past interference are holding in football? You can call
everything on everybody. I mean, Carson Edwards right there, shoves off,
he's going straight up, turns his hips. I I think
it could have been a perfectly fine no call. Let

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me ask you a question, because we're already off the
rails here. If that had been a no call, do
you think it's a bigger controversy that the call was made.
Do you think we would have an equally big controversy
if there was no call in that moment last night?
I disagree. If there was no call, there's no opportunity
for either team to reset like now with this call.

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It as Carson Edwards ends up making two of three,
because that would be a part of it. We go
to over time and need to say to yourself, Okay, well,
now they've got an opportunity to to put this thing away.
They both have chances. You reference the NFC Championship Game.
One of the reasons why there wasn't sympathy for the
Saints is because the Saints actually one the the coin

(08:26):
toss in overtime and had the ability to go down
and score, but Drew Brees through the interception on a
tip ball which allowed the Ramps to them take over
and kicked the field goal well, and that was why
I opened with what I said is that there are
reasons outside of of this one play why Tennessee lost
the game. And it sounds really weird and counterintuitive to

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say that the call uh cost Tennessee the game, because
if there's no call, the shot goes off and they
win the game in regulation. I think the call cost
Tennessee the game, but it's not the reason why they
lost the game. Another reason why they lost the game.
Ryan Klein went seven of ten from three Tennessee went
fourteen of twenty eight from the foul line. There are

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reasons Tennessee lost the game, not to do with this play,
but they it did cost them the game. If there's
anybody that has a natural leg kick in their shot,
it's Ryan Klein. I mean he's making I mean he's
making a c as he's shooting and following deals. You
didn't think LaMonte Turner committed a foul. Neither did Turner,

(09:29):
as he spoke with the media following last night's lost
to Produe in the Sweet sixth Tea, when you go
in a shooter, you want to contest a shot. He
was kicking his leg out all night, so if he
kicks his leg out, I can't contest the shot. You know,
I've been talking to Rim about that. Last play the game,
he kicks his leg, Well, I try to contest a
shot in his legy made contact with me, contact with me,
and they call a foul. So I don't understand what

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I'm supposed to do. You know, that was the call.
It didn't decide the game, but you know we lost
an over time. So this is one of those to me, Dan,
this is so fascinating, know how, like those pictures where
it's like one of those optical illusions and like you
see a bird, but I see a turtle and we
just see a completely different like dress, blue dress. Yeah,
that's a great example, gold whatever, like yeah, whatever, yeah, this.

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I can't believe that we're looking at the same video
and have completely different interpretations. And I know we're an
audio medium and people don't have the video in front
of them, But I encourage people to go back because
I think they'll see what me and Lamente Turners. Well,
let me point this out to you and for those
of you that watched the game last night, you saw
Lamente Turner jumped towards Carson Edwards. The Carson Edwards is

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is in his shooting motion, but LaMonte Turner was not vertical.
When you look at the video of where LaMonte Turner
jumped and where he landed, and in the radio studio,
we've got the ability to look LaMonte Turners inside the
three point line when he ends up landing from his
jump to Carson Edwards, he is almost at the sideline.

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So there is no verticale either. He is going at
Carson Edwards. So when you're talking when when he is
talking about kicking his feet out as Edwards did, his
feet may have been out. But one of the reasons
that LaMonte Turner came in contact with him is because
LaMonte Turner jumped three feet from inside the three point
line to almost the sideline baseline corner. See, this is

(11:20):
one where you know, I'm i'm, I do apologize to
our listeners out there, the thousands of people across the
country that that we're watching a video that they might
not be able to But I just I look at
it like he said, you have to be able to
contest a game winning shot. Carson Edwards turns his hips
as if he's on the salsa dance floor, and then
he kicks his leg out like to me. I get

(11:42):
that a shooter has to have room to shoot, but
I also think that we shouldn't reward offensive players for
creating contact. And I think he created the contact. So
your point earlier was about if this is this a
bigger deal if it is not called, why do you
think that this is a bigger deal than if the
ref would have swallowed the whistle? No, I I didn't know.
I think you could make a case that it's equally

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as big. I don't think it's an egregious like you know,
I don't. I'm trying to remember if there's been a
game in the tournament, there haven't been very many close
ones where there's just an egregious call that they just
swallow the whistle. I don't think this is egregious one
way or the other. And what do we always say
is if it's not super obvious, let the players decided

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on the court or the field hold to us. When
Tennessee had to fend off Iowa from that comeback, Jordan
Bohannan was fouled on a play that he wasn't fouled
on what they called the three point shot, and the
foul was called on La Monte Turner, Mr innocent man.
Maybe he should have learned his lesson from that that
Sunday game of Hey, calls are gonna whether they're fouls

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or not, calls are gonna be made. They made that
call which was not a foul against him in that
Iowa game last night. I think it was in the
sweet sixteen, and Tennessee had five extra minutes to figure
it out, and it didn't work out for him. And
I'll tell you this and and that's why, although I
think it was a bad call, although I think Tennessee
should have won in regulation, you can't like LaMonte Tourney

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even said you can't blame this one play on why
Tennessee lost. They went about six minutes in the first
half without scoring a single basket. They, as I've said,
a couple of times, abou fourteen twenty from the foul line,
and they didn't have They didn't close in overtime. So
I do think this costs them the game, but it's
not necessarily the only reason why they didn't win. I'm

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gonna throw up the video. Gene sterrator who was on
the call for the Let's in here aspect for CBS
Sports last night, I retweeted his tweet. You can find
it at Dan Buyer on Fox. You can find Aaron
Torres at Aaron Underscore Torres and that's a a r
o N. It is underscore Torres and foul or not
a foul is the debate that it's going to go on.

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I'm just surprised. I really thought you were to go
in and be like good called by the raf um.
And you know, the funny thing is, I'm sure we'll
talk about this over three hours. I'm not to blame
the refs guy, Like I didn't think the refs cost
Central Florida on Sunday, I don't think they cost Tennessee.
I just would have preferred that they just make a
non call. He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer. This is
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Buyer sitting in for Doug today. Willie mattson Kanye and

(14:58):
tweets in never ever foul a three point shooter. It
was clearly a foul teaching moment, never follow three point shooter,
which is exactly the edict which La Monte Turner followed. Yeah,
don't follow three point shooter. Also, don't you know, don't
turn right on red. Well, if you don't turn right
on red, nothing happens. He didn't follow anybody. There's no foul.

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Robert's really says, Dan, You're wrong. It wasn't a foul
that should have been a no call? Robert? You are
ROBERTA See, this is what I do on my Saturday
show when a when a listener makes a smart point,
I just offered to let them host the rest of
the show. I mean, my Saturday partner is is largely
um incompetence, probably too strong, but I do have to

(15:39):
fire him from our show periodically, So I think I
might have to let Robert host the last couple of
hours here because very smart man, this Robert. Let's bring
in c J more of the Athletic who covers college
basketball for his thoughts on the foul or no foul
at the end of last night's produced tendency, c J,
what's out? Are you weighing in? Should the foul have
been called? Yeah? My background, t J, I'm probably gonna

(16:02):
lean on the foul side. There you go. I wouldn't
have been upset if you know there was a no call.
But uh yeah, I mean I think you have to
call the game the same, no matter the situation. And
uh he clipped him and they called that a foul
most time, So I say it's a foul. I don't
think it's a yeah. It's it's a foul most times,

(16:23):
But Carson Edwards doesn't turn his hips as if he's
dancing salsa and then kick his feet out most times either.
So yeah, I think he invaded the like you you
have so much room and you can shoot in and
I'm with you. Sometimes I think guys will kick their
feet out and it should be sometimes it should be
an offensive foul and they'll call that. But I don't
think like it was a ridiculous lake clip Like I

(16:45):
think he just got too too close into his air space.
And uh so, yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
cry on that one. C J. Moore of the Athletic
Jointy Gainst here on the Doug gott Leave Show on
Fox Sports Radio. He's here on Torres. I'm Dan Buyer,
and I'm sure we'll talk about it for for the
next couple of hours or so. See, let's focus on
maybe what's ahead not only Friday, but also for Saturday.

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But I want to talk about tonight because North Carolina
takes on Auburn. It's a tar Heels team that is
the number one seed in the Midwest region coming in.
But I'm not sure on how many people are are
believing that this is a true North Carolina team. What
kind of team does Roy Williams have heading into Tonight's
Sweet six team matchup against Auburn. Uh, you know, I

(17:28):
think the Hills are legit. I think they're legit national
title contender. Uh. You know, Kobe White is a really
really good point guard. Um, maybe maybe the most pounded
point guard Roys had in a long long time. Abe
tail awesome was really good. But um, you know, I
think this kid's talents up there. Uh you know, Luke
May experienced guy who's who's like an All American caliber player.

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Um that got shooting with with Cam Johnson on the perimetery.
You know, I think the pieces fit together pretty nicely.
Like it's it's maybe not the talented Carolina team, but um,
I think they've got enough to uh get to a
final tour and and and you know at least have
a shot at the title. All Right, t J, So
you and I have known each other for years, I'm
going to give you this platform to break news right

(18:13):
on our show. PJ Washington injured Kentucky star. He is
in casey with You Tell America. Is he playing tonight?
I know you know, I know you have the answer.
What do you got? I think he'll play. I'm actually
having UH months with UH with Kyle Tucker right now
and UH at a barbecue joy in case, so you

(18:33):
know you can go on the Athletic and UH and
read Kyle story today. And I think Kyle thinks he'll
play you know, ten a fifteen minutes maybe something like that. Um,
I'm kind of the feeling that he plays. I think
he'll play more than that. Like, I think they won't
hold him back too much, but we'll see. It'll be
interesting because he's a big, big, big time difference maker

(18:55):
for them. I mean, i'd argue aeron what do you
think you think he's the most important player? I think
i'd go there, oh far, Yeah, for them, absolutely, I
would say so yeah. C J. Moore joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio of the Athletic is it is
he important to play tonight though? Because Houston is that
much of a threat Like this, Houston win this game.
If E. J. Washington isn't playing for Kentucky, I think

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Houston's got a legit shot because you know they're gonna
muck it up if that team is so hard to
play because they're so physical and so sound offensively. Like,
go back last year to Michigan, who is a team
that ends up making the National Championship game, Like the
left side of practet was was a mass last year.

(19:38):
And I don't think that Michigan was necessarily national runner
up good, but still they got there. And I was
at that game in which Tall and I'll tell you,
Houston out play them, Houston out tough them, like you know,
Jordan Poole made an amazing shot to h to win
that game. But but Houston was a better team that day.
And it's it's not easy to play those guys. So

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when when you are missing an offensive peace like p
J and you're going up against a defense like that,
then yeah, I think you you could worry if if
you're a Kentucky fan and p J. Washington is not
out there. A team you get to cover quite a
bit there in the Midwest is Texas tech Um. First
time that I personally got a chance to see him
last night, I didn't come away being kind of frustrated

(20:24):
with the ugliness of the game. I came away impressed
by just how good that team plays defense. A couple
of thoughts. One Um, you know, somebody who sees them often,
was that just par for the course, But then two
you moved to Gonzaga, maybe that I think they were
the highest scoring team in college basketball this year, certainly
the highest scoring team in the tournament. And it really
is kind of what do they say, immaculate forced me

(20:44):
to move a object or whatever. Yeah, it's it's that'll
be a fun game. And man, how about the intensity
Tech played with last night? I mean, that's not like
unusual for them, but still I think it was turned
up even another notch last night or in that game, Like, yeah,
it was ugly, the offenses weren't pretty, but it had
a lot to do with the intensity of the defenses

(21:07):
and just you know, the scatter reports being so on point.
So props to Texas Tech. I've seen plenty of that. Uh,
watching those guys regularly they do is about as good
a job and scutting report defense and then just teaching,
um their kids how to how to play defense. But
I do think the first few minutes of that game
will be so important because if Gonzaga comes out and

(21:29):
they get off to a good start, um, and they
have a little bit of rhythm, I think you know,
you can score Tech if you if you run really
good offense, you've got really good players, which Gonzaga does.
But if they get kind of out of their rhythm,
like they getting in that St. Mary's game in the
WCC final, and they get into you know, kind of
a quote unquote rock fight against Texas Tech, then then

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that's where you might you might worry. If you're back then.
C J. Moore joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Find him on Twitter at c J Moore Hoops. He's
her and Torres. I'm Dan Buyer in for Doug Gottlieb today. Okay,
so we've done South Region, we've done Midwest, we've done West.
That leaves us with the East and tonight it's number
one Duke against number four Virginia Tech in the early game.

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The first one, Number two Michigan State against number three
l s U top of that bracket. Virginia Tech beat
Duke in their regular season meeting without Zion Williamson. The
game was in Blacksburg as well. Is that motivation for
Duke of of of coming into this game or is
that something that maybe just doesn't matter now that you're
in the sweet sixteen. Yeah, I'm not really into the

(22:31):
motivation game when you're in the sweet sixteen. Like, if
you can't get motivated to play in a tournament, in
a sweet sixteen where you're you know, a couple of
games away from the final four, then you got problems. So, um,
you know, I just don't buy the motivation games most
of the time. Like everybody's jack to play at the
time of year. Last one for me that that other

(22:54):
game in that region, um l s U Like, I
think it's an incredible story there. Their head coach gets suspended,
interm coach comes in. He's done a phenomenal job, but
they haven't played a team the caliber and Michigan State.
Any thoughts on that first game in d C tonight,
It'll be it'll be interesting because you know, I think
the Big ten teams, Um, I think Tom has has

(23:15):
done an amazing job coaching Michigan State. Like to get
as far, you know, to have the record they have
with the injuries they dealt with, it's crazy and like ellis,
he's clearly going to be the most talented teams to night,
But man, what is they've done this year? Like it's
it's hard to uh, it's hard to bet against, and
so we'll see. I'm really interested to see how that

(23:36):
game plays out because, um, you know, you look at
Michigan State's roster and like they got some you know,
Kess Winston and obviously awesome, but you know, the town's
just not like what is left in the rest of
the bracket with a lot of teams. So um, interesting
to see how that game plays out. But but win
or lose, like Michigan State fans should be thrilled with
the season they've had because I think this is one

(23:58):
of the better coaching jobs as was done. Read him
on the Athletic and find him on Twitter at c
J more Hoop c J. We appreciate it, enjoyed tonight's
games in Kansas City, and uh, we'll do it again soon,
all right, thanks guys, appreciate it. Thank you. He's Aaron Torres.
I'm Dan Buyer. I always tell the guests like, we'll
do it again soon, like you know, like like what

(24:18):
you know, hey, hey, soon, you know, a couple of weeks,
maybe maybe we get together and recast this up right,
well soon as all relative, right, because soon could be
six months from now, soon, I mean in the grand scheme,
of life. What really should I say, Hey, can't wait
to not talk to you for a while. Do you
think that would be a good way or is it
just I think maybe we'll do it again soon. It's

(24:39):
it's like a date, right, And first of all, I
always use this analogy. It's like Cooper, whether you have
a good ride or a bad ride, you give five stars. Right, So,
whether you know whether you're really going to call the
guest next week, whether or not, you only give five
stars because you want the five stars back. And even
though that's the only reason why, and you're like, oh
my rating one up, he must have given me five stars.
That's the the recent why he's here on tours. I'm

(25:01):
Dan Buyer coming up next the Milwaukee Bucks to the
rest of the NBA A favor last night. We'll tell
you why and how after Steve the Sager, who we'll
talk to you very soon, joins us with the latest.
Good afternoon, gentlemen, and Aaron, I'm glad you brought up
the technical problems in Anaheim at the Sweet six team.
The Oh my goodness, I wish Chris Webber's mike went out.

(25:24):
The power problem was courtside and the CBS announcers were
off the air before the Texas Tech game, and the
guys back in the New York studio were just chatting
as they waited and waited to start the game in
Anaheim and earlier. That was hardly the first problem of
the night. The Gonzaga radio announcers from the first game,
they went off the air multiple times, including in their

(25:44):
pregame show where their announcer had to get on his
own cell phone and call his station just to finish
up his pregame show on his owner phone. And before
halftime in the Texas Tech game, the WiFi went out.
And this is not an old building. It was built
in the nineties. Mighty Ux moved in there when they're
an expansion team. I mean, Anaheim, you have one more
day to fix this, hosting the regional final tomorrow. If

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it's just as bad tomorrow, you don't deserve ever to
host an n c A event. Again, it was bad.
They had to They had to cut budget to pay
for Mike Trout across the streets. So that's why, Yeah,
there's not even WiFi at the center anymore. That I
wouldn't doubt. Actually, College Basketball Sweet sixteen concludes in the
n c A Tournament. Tonight a couple of games in
d C including the number one seed overall in the East.

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It's Duke against Virginia Tech Eastern or SO and before
that l s U against Michigan State. The two games
in Kansas City include the Midwest Regions one seed North
Carolina against Auburn and then attend PM Eastern Houston versus Kentucky.
Kentucky forward PJ. Washington missed the last couple of games
with a sprained foot. He's been out of the walking
booth this week. The regional finals are this weekend. Cal

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is finalizing a deal to hire Mark Fox's head coach.
Among the NBA games tonight, Indiana at Boston seven pm Eastern.
The Pacers are one game ahead of Boston for the
number four seed in the East. The late games Charlotte
at the Lakers ten thirty Eastern. The Hornets of one
four in a row, so they're up to thirty five
and thirty nine. Not out of it yet, only a
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final playoffs. But in the East, guard T J. Lang
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Dan Buyer on Fox the last night. The Milwaukee Bucks
gotta win over the l A Clippers, Milwaukee almost cementing
their spot atop the Eastern Conference, now four game edge
on the Raptors with six games to go in the

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NBA's regular season, almost all but wrapped up. But last
night almost was a huge loss for Milwaukee, and it
comes in the form of Jannas and Tenna Kompo, who,
after making a bucket, is running back on defense, bumps
in the Garrett Temple of the Clippers and then steps
out his foot awkwardly spraining his ankle. Jannest did not
return to the game. But this is a Bucks team

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that's already dealing with injuries, and to have one to
their m VP candidates and the top two m v
P candidate right now would be severely damaging for the
Milwaukee Bucks and Aaron. This is what happened last night.
This is the reason we can talk about fatigue, and
we can talk about rest, but one of the things
that we don't talk about when players are sitting out

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in what almost are meaningless games, our instances like this.
And I think that if any NBA team is going
to hear crap from the commissioner's office about not playing
their guys as they're sitting up there in the standings
of the Western Conference or Eastern Conference, can point to
this specific instance on why you want to be careful
with your pieces heading into the playoffs, because this could

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have been a catastrophic for the Milwaukee Bucks on just
an innocent play in last dance game against the Clips.
So I don't know that I necessarily disagree. Let me
ask you a question, though, I mean, we can always,
in hindsight with something like this, um, you know, claim
that this is why things are the way they are.
But has there been in recent time, like a major

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injury that has happened at this time of year, like
or are we overreacting to this because it happened to happen,
you know, it's like it's like just like as an example, right,
I was, No, this is I don't think that there
has been, and I think that that has allowed the
n b A two send a message, or at least
they have have let's let's have these guys play more,

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because look, that's one of the odds or something like
this is going to happen. Then all of a sudden,
you see what happened last night and not even a
basketball play. It's just you're not looking, you step on
a guy's foot and you turn your ankle and he
didn't even turn it, and it was almost like he
jammed his ankle last night. But this is this to
me gives ammunition, and it's it's because maybe there hasn't

(30:25):
been that there's been more a groundswell of of saying like, yeah,
why aren't these guys playing your guys back in the
day played you know, eighty two games. This is a
perfect reason why for a Milwaukee Bucks organization that needs
their m v P and it needs to make some
noise with the team that's capable of making a run
of the finals. Yeah, this is one where I actually
kind of see both sides because like, I do think

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that I've never had a problem with these guys sitting
out games and getting rest because, as the Warriors have
taught us, as the Calves when Lebron taught us, it's
not about being a number one seed having the best
regular season record, It's about getting into the playoffs healthy.
I also don't know that, like I want to use
this as an example of proof that that like Adam

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Silver has no business like getting in the middle of this,
because I think it's the exception of the rule, because
I can't think of another instance off top of my
head where somebody has gotten severely hurt and like, like,
like my general philosophy on sports is if there's an
exception we we shouldn't be changing. I know it's a
big thing with Doug, Like, we shouldn't be changing rules

(31:28):
for the exception, right, and so like Trevor Lawrence is
an awesome football player at Clemson. He's once in a lifetime.
We shouldn't like, we shouldn't just allow guys to leave
after their freshman year because Trevor Lawrence is awesome when
none of these other guys are ready. And so to me,
like if Adam Silver has a tenure track record of well,
we really have no proof that these guys need the
extra rest. I have no problem with him calling and

(31:50):
saying like, we can't have everybody sitting on all these things.
What do you think is better business for the NBA.
Oh no, it's Janice being healthy in the playoffs instead
of these fine two months where I mean with the
with the broadcast deal that CBS did with Turner Sports,
I mean there wasn't there was no t n T
broadcast last night because they're so focused on the n
C Double A tournament and and really and in a

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lot of times, the NBA, I don't gets lost is
not the term, but the n C Double A tournament
takes the forefront. So when we're sitting there looking at
how things are playing out, the Warriors don't care what
seed they are. There are teams that are battling for
a position at the bottom. But you could have lost
a a huge, huge star for the for a playoff

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round or two if this injury is a little bit
more serious. And I just think that if the NBA
were to come to a team and say, hey, we
you know, we don't like how you're doing, just point
to this and be like, okay, what about it? What's
the alternative if this happened at Kwai Leonard, or this
happened to Kevin Durant, or this happened to anybody else.
That's just the point that I look at is it
did happen last night, And this was the whole reason

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of of why I mean, I'm trying to think of
parallels of what happened. I mean, we always had tornado
watches growing up. We would always go to the seller.
Well a lot of times there were just watches. There
were no warnings, but all of a sudden the time
that maybe you don't, all of a sudden there is
like that's what we're getting here and that, and that's
what I think of, Like, yeah, it's maybe the exception,

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but this is what could happen in a catastrophic situation.
But like you said, it was a random occurrence. It
wasn't on basketball injury. So where do you draw the
line if the Bucks randomly give off? You know, this
could have happened in the eighth game of the season
in November, Like are we supposed to like put your
honice around bubble rap or oh, you know he's playing

(33:38):
this team tonight, we gotta give him the night off?
Like to me, um, like I actually think it it
like it has no relevance to what Adam Silver said,
Like like I get your point, but I also just
feel like this could have happened at any point. So
the only reason we're talking about is because it happened
to happen right now. And and what is the reason
that we always talk about rest. It's because guys wont

(34:00):
to be ready for the playoffs and they want to
make sure that they're fresh or fresh or the Lakers
don't want to have you know, Lebron put more miles.
We never talk about freak injuries because you're right, they
don't happen, but last night it almost did. And that
would be the reason above anything else. It's why guys
don't play quarterback in week seventeen when you've clinched a
playoff spot. It's not because you want him to rest up.

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You don't want your quarterback to get sacked and bust
his leg and hurt his knee. Like that's why you
sit guys out. And that's why I think last night
in the n b A, this is what happened, and
and the Bucks loss, maybe the other twenty nine teams
gain because they can just point to the situation. He's
aeron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug Gottlie
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. You can hear Aaron
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(34:44):
You can hear me this Sunday at five o'clock Eastern
time with Nick Boz. The n C Double A Tournaments
Final four should be set and we'll break it all
down for you here on Fox coming up next. Speaking
of that final four, will we have a final four
with all number one seeds? Will tell you here coming
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and so much more. As we play a game. This
is game time. On the Doug Got Leave Show, we
welcome in our good friend Steve to Seger, who I
knew we would talk again soon. When you weren't lying, well,
not at all, not at all. You and Aaron Torres
rubbing elbows last night in Anaheim at the Western Regional.

(36:10):
Boy did Aaron have a good seat. It was like
center court row too, right behind the TV announcers, right
right behind Steve to Seger, you could say it to Seger,
you don't have to be honest. He was in row
one rubbing elbows with Jim Jackson's Yeah. And Adam Morris
said on my left, but down the road from you
to Kimbe Matumbo, what No, he wasn't He was standing.

(36:32):
You couldn't miss him. He was standing before the game.
His nephew is like seven four the Florida State Center.
He's rarely to any Florida State game. They hadn't seen
him in a year or two at a game, but
there he was. Although I think when his nephew got
in foul trouble, I think I saw him. Waggy's the
next figure. I'm not sure. I was on my couch. Guys.
That's well Steven. Steve and I have taken in a

(36:53):
couple of regionals down and Anaheim just didn't make it
down there this year. That's Staples say, I was gonna
say you saw as much to Kimby Matumbo as I did.
I had no he was there, so maybe and you
won't see him on Saturday. I'm guessing that as as
I as I look ahead as we uh oh, by
the way, what game are we playing? John? Psychic? Psychic

(37:13):
is the game? I'll start with college basketball item you
tell me psychics. Put on your caps and beanies and
tell me what's up for the future. Thank you. We
have the remaining Sweet Sixteen games tonight. By Sunday evening
we'll have the Final four set. Will we see all
four number one seeds in the Final four this year?
We did about a decade ago have four one seeds

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in the final four if you include Memphis and the
fraudulent s a t score of Derek there were a
few years ago there were three out of four were
one seeds, with Duke and Kentucky included in How about
this year? I don't think it's going to happen. As
a matter of fact, to Sager, I would say I
will not be able to make the game tomorrow in
Anaheim because I'm to be preparing for my own show.

(37:54):
I think it could happen in Anaheim. I don't think
Duke is unbeatable in the East. I do not think
we will get all four. What about you? I don't
think so either. And I'm not as high on Carolina
as other people are. I just I think that they
are so Kobe White driven, and I don't know if
it's gonna be auburned. I don't know if it's gonna
be Kentucky or Houston. But I don't think Carolina is

(38:18):
as good as as people thinking. I tell you, what
if Virginia is only gonna play five guys, uh, and
maybe those five guys are good enough to be produe,
but I think the Boilers could have something for Virginias.
And I hear correctly that Aaron Torres is skipping a
regional finals so he can co host a show with
Arnie Spanier. I know I'll talk about crawling unusual punishment, huh.
I gotta show up and with that guy. Uh No,

(38:39):
I listen. I'd love to go down, but it's a
three Pacific tip off. I'm on an eight Pacific. I
take my job very serious, and I will say that
even at like ten eleven o'clock last night, it took
an hour to get back to l A from Anaheim.
It is nowhere near Los Angeles. The Angels can call
them los Angeles all they want. It's nowhere near Los Angeles.
Idem to football. Earlier today, four Niners GM John Lynch

(39:01):
told k NBR in the Bay Area they were interested
in acquiring Odell Beckham Jr. But the Giants were asking
for the number two overall pick. His quote was, I think, ironically,
the fact that we had the number two made it
more difficult because they wanted it badly. They wanted a
couple number ones and we weren't willing to part with that.
Will the forty Niners regret not giving up the second
overall to get Odell? No, not, not in the least bit.

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Not in the least bit. I think that the first
of all, the price take, in my mind, would have
been a bit too high. I wouldn't have given the second.
And the player that you're going to add there is
going to help them. They should personnel wise have a
really good defensive front and if you can add another
guide to that. The forty Niners won't regret that. I

(39:44):
don't think they will. But I do have this weird
thing where we're so obsessed with draft picks in the NFL,
Odell Beckham is a game changer, and like, I don't
understand this thing where like we can't give up a
number one pick for an established superstar. I think in
this case the forty Niners are a few piece is
a way. I know everyone thought they were gonna be
great with Jimmy Garoppolo last year. He gets hurt. But
I have no problem in this particular case. But I

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do find it weird with everyone's obsession with first round
draft picks. The Eagles yesterday traded Bears running back Jordan Howard,
giving up a conditional draft pick. He was a Pro
bowler in They used Arko co in a lot also
with the new head coach last year. Does this move
put the Eagles back on the top of the NFC
East next season? Uh? No, not this move, but almost

(40:28):
by default because the Redskins and Giants are in such
rebuilding situations, at least I think that they are. That
it's really a two team race in the NFC East,
So it's are you better than Dallas? This doesn't make
them better than Dallas, but I would bet on the
Eagles winning the division. Listen to Dave Gettlman has a plan. Okay,
he might not be able to see it, he has
a plan. I still think the Cowboys are the team

(40:49):
to beat in the East even with this move. This
is game time on the Gottlieb Show. Well, Steve was
doing stats last night at the West Regional. We'll have
some stats in about thirty five minutes, and I'll put
John Ramos to the test. You have what transpired in
the n C Double A Tournament. He's eron Torres. I'm
Dan Buyer. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Is tonight

(41:11):
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Zion Williamson and the Duke. Blue Devil's going up against
Virginia Tech tonight in the Sweet six team. But you

(41:33):
gotta have to wait a little while. Yeah, you gotta
get through the appetizer. First double doses. Michigan State takes
on l s U in the first game in d
C in Kansas City, it's North Carolina against Auburn in
that first game, followed by Houston and Kentucky. Still no
official word on p J. Washington. What do you think
that will happen? Do you think it's when we see
him take the courts? When are we going to find

(41:54):
out about p J. Washington status? Yeah? I think it's
uh when he steps on the court without any type
of protective boot, etcetera, and in the uniform, because listen,
you know this obvious alert. But I'm not a doctor,
but they say that foot injuries you just never know.
And I still find it hard to believe that that

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guy could be in a full cast a week ago
and be anything close to a D percent today. I
know C J. Moore from the Athletics said he's hearing
that he could play fifteen and twenty minutes, maybe more,
maybe less. I just I don't know. We'll find out
soon enough because tip off is coming up in three
hours for one game, and then, as we mentioned Kentucky
and Houston, I would think at some point between or

(42:38):
at least during the North Carolina Auburn game, we would
find out about p J. Washington status. And I'll say
this and h C J. Moore brought up a minute ago,
but Houston is good just because they play in a
small conference. They don't have the quote unquote like future
NBA guys. They they are, they are athletic, they are tough.
They got a bunch of dogs on that team, and
they're gonna get after Kentucky. I think they're gonna be

(42:59):
really tough. Duke is good, But is Duke magnificent? And
that's the issue because in bracket pools around this country,
a majority of people picking Duke. And when you're looking
at at brackets and and trying to determine who is
who is the best choice to go, when when you're

(43:20):
filling out your bracket, you sees ion you know about R. J.
Barrett and Duke, and the committee gave him the number
one overall seeds, so you saw a lot more predictions
for Duke. How good is Duke? And Doug says that
he likes Virginia Tech tonight. I believe to to give
Duke a game and in fact, maybe even win that game.
But is Duke beatable because they're playing Virginia Tech, a

(43:41):
team that beat them earlier this season, or they beatable
just for how they are built it's really interesting so
that that you think that Doug said that he thinks
Virginia Tech and him the game. I was reading um
David Perdam from ESPN dot com. He's a gambling expert.
He said, the biggest need for sports book points bet
USA Virginia Tech. Ninety eight percent of the money on

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the money line is on Duke. Over on the point
spread is on Duke. So America is brought into Duke.
I'm not and I just think you can go back
and you can look. This team has not been the
same team since Zion Williamson got hurt. Uh. He came back,
he's been better, but the other guys around him have

(44:24):
not been the same. And I've said all week, and
I truly believe this, dan Is. I think that a
lot of those guys had some fake toughness, some fake
swagger about him during the season when Zion was on
the team. You know, you watch that team. They'd walk
into the gym, they'd say, we are the baddest dudes here,
and then the muscle leaves, then Zion leaves, They go
three and three. None of those guys have been the

(44:46):
same since, and I think they're struggling outside of Zion.
Everybody else is really struggling right now. When I look
at Duke, I looked at them like the heats when
Lebron teamed up with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh and
I've used this of they were all great players. It
was Dwayne's team and it wasn't that Chris Boss was
going to be better than Dwayne Wade or Lebron James.

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It was the point of as games played out, you
just saw that Lebron was the guy. And I know
that r J. Barrett ended up averaging more points per
season than throughout this season and it just barely minuscule.
But in r J. Barrett was considered by some to
be the top prospect even ahead of Zion coming into
to this season. But as the games play out is

(45:29):
how you see like that, that's how things are, and
as the games played out, Zion is the one that
rose to you know, became the cream of the crop.
And I think when you see do yeah, there's some
vulnerabilities there they've had to deal with with injuries. But
what I see in Duke and what we've seen over
these last couple of weeks is they were this close

(45:50):
to losing for the third time to North Carolina with
Zion in the n C Double A Tournament. We saw
how close they came to losing to Central Florida last week. Now,
I said this week that I thought Virginia, in this
Virginia Tech game, that it would serve as somewhat of
a wake up call for Duke in not wanting to
I don't know. I used motivation with C. J. Moore,

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and maybe that was the wrong word, but I didn't
think that Duke would be caught sleeping because we feel
that they're automatically going to be in the final four.
I'm just saying as a general consensus, I had Michigan State.
But the point is most of us sitting there looking
at it, say, all right, Duke's a foregone conclusion, and
maybe they buy into that, and and that's the that's
the issue that and that I'm just I think that

(46:31):
the close game, at least last time out help them
help them service a wake up call. And it helped
that Zion made a big shot, but it also helped
that R. J. Barrett got the offensive rebound and put
it back in. So that's why I like Duke. I
don't know if they can win six straight games and
win a national title. But I do like them tonight
against Virginia Tech. Yeah, And I do think it's you know,

(46:55):
you talked to gambling experts. We have Todd ferman on
all the time, Bernie Fratto. What they always say is
don't overreact to the most recent piece of data. Right,
So Duke is within two point blank shots of missing
against UCF, and we all, well, if they can't beat UCF,
there's no way they're beating Virginia Tech. Like, I don't
know if I believe that, but I don't think and

(47:16):
you know this, Dan, I'm a guy that watches college
basketball from November one on when the season starts. But
I think they can win tonight without them being the
Duke team that they were in early December, early February
before Zion Williamson get hurt got hurt where they're really
clicking on all cylinders. I think they could be okay today.
But you want to believe how many people ask me,

(47:38):
and maybe it's been a topic of conversation here, but
I had somebody asked me. A few people ask me
this week. So you got Duke or the field? I'm
like that don't like that that's a real question. Of course.
I got the field like they're good, they're fine, but
I don't even think I don't even think they're close
to the favorite right now. I don't know who would
be the obvious one. But they got flaws like everybody else,
and those laws have been exposed last week. I love

(47:59):
in the tournament time, when you're filling out your bracket,
I bring up the brakets a lot because I think
that that's what draws people in to the tournament. And
when you're trying to decide what team to go for,
Duke is a name that you just see and you're like, Okay,
I'll put them into the to the next round. But
when the the m C Double, a tournament that I
knew that I grew up with, and what we've seen

(48:20):
late is guard play is number one. Shooting the three
kind of goes along with that. But I'll put that
as as number two. And then if you've got a
veteran team that's number three, maybe someone that's been there before,
and Duke is almost oh for three and all of that.
Because they're not led by their guards. They don't shoot

(48:41):
the three well, which has been talked about and and
I guess you know, the leadership that you would have is,
you know, the the regular season games that you've played
are in the a CC Tournament just because of Zion,
of r. J. Barrett, of the of Cam Reddish, of
the freshman that you you have on that team. They
don't have that experience. So they're oh for three and
all the things that I think many of us look

(49:02):
to when we're filling out a bracket, and and so
the hype is there because the only reason we're advancing
them is because of those four letters. And it's funny
because and this is something that people in college basketball
talk about all the time, but even if you talk
about the quote unquote young teams that have won the
national championship, Duke In when they had Julie looked for
they had some guy named Quinn Cook in their starting

(49:22):
lineup who nobody knew anything about at the time, and
now we see he's a very valuable piece for a
championship team. With the Golden State Warriors Kentucky, when they
had Anthony Davis, yeah he was a freshman. They had
a guy named Darius Miller still in the NBA who
was a fourth year senior and so Duke doesn't have
those guys, and so I don't know if it's strictly
because of age, but what I do think is, like

(49:44):
you said, they don't shoot the three ball. Well, uh,
there's a very clear game plan to beat them, which
I think you you see f implemented. And I just
if you seef was that close. With all the great
teams left in this tournament. North Carolina who's beaten him twice,
Virginia Tech who's beating him, Uh, you know, Kentucky, Houston, Gonzaga,

(50:06):
Texas Tech, I just have to assume that somewhere they're
gonna get tripped up. Could be tonight against Virginia Tech,
and if they advanced, could be Sunday against the winner
of that Michigan State L s U. How much better
talent wise? Do you think L s U is over
Michigan State? Just for and I'm using that because it
was brought up when we had C. J. Moore on

(50:26):
Last Hour and talking about college basketball and L s
use on court talent compared to what Michigan State has. Yeah,
I mean, look, you can legitimately and I think people
have made the case that L s U is one
of the three or four most talented teams in the country.
And it's kind of what you just said with Duke,
right like Michigan State, they might not have a guy
that's draftable in the NBA. Their best NBA draft prospect,

(50:48):
ironically might be your boy Aaron Henry, who was getting
yelled at on the sidelines, and he's two or three
years away. So with l s U, they got three
or four guys that are gonna play in the league.
They just do. But they have an interim head coach.
They've struggled to close out games, but to their credit,
they've won them, but they've blown double digit leads in
the second half in the SEC Tournament where they lost

(51:09):
to Florida and then in their two n c A
Tournament games. L s U more talented, but certainly the
better coaching and everything is coming from the Michigan State.
If Duke wins tonight, who do you think they would
want to see on Sunday? And the only reason I
bring this up is because of the challenges that you
mentioned with l s U. And it's crazy to say
that Duke would want Michigan State. But tom Azzo has

(51:31):
beaten Duke once in twelve times in his career, and
so that maybe all of the ISO magic that he's
got over other teams maybe doesn't work as well against
Miki and Roy Williams. You just saved my bacon there
because I knew he was bad against Duke. Tom Izzo
was bad against Duke, and I couldn't remember the exact number,
so one in eleven lifetime against Coach k according to

(51:54):
crack researcher Dan Buyer here, So now listen, I think
it's a great question because I don't oh l s
U has more talent. They're a bit you know, they
have a very similar personnel set to what U c
F has. UCF of course gave them so much trouble,
but Michigan State has the Hall of Fame coach. He's erraturires.
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shoot the basketball, your right side is ahead of you,
so that is that there was no swinging any leg
kick out. La Monte Turner should understand that. You know
who I blame for all this is Steph Curry because
he's made it cool to take all these awkward, weird
jump shots. I missed the old days where Larry Bird
went up straight like a statue and he wasn't kicking
and screaming and flailing elbows, and I missed those things.

(52:57):
Robert tweets in it. Do you think that Carson Edwards
foot touched the baseline or the sideline? Excuse me? That's
another thing. If you watch the replay, his heels are
very close. He's well behind the three point line and
his heels are very close to the sideline. I don't
think they did. I'll just answer it that way. It's close,
but I think that they were up. I don't think

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you can go flat footed in that situation, so I
don't think they touch. By the way. Not only that,
but how about the play before that, Carson Awards goes
up for the layup, Grant Williams comes in and stuffs it,
and it kind of looked like a grace Carson Edwards foot,
I don't think it did. I'll say this to the sideline.
They should make the courts in the n C Double
a tournament like operation. So touch the court and you

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touched the baseline. It just buzzes really loud and scares
the crap audio or put some kind of something on
the uniforms. So when La Monte, Turner doesn't touch him
because Carson Edwards kicked out his leg like he's playing.
You know guys in the country that I don't think
it was a foul. You uh mclovin from the Dan
Patrick showing like four other people somebody on Twitter as well,

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but that's about it. Six Turner. Even Rick Barnes said
it was a foul. Well, Rick Barnes, what is that?
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Dan Buyer and on a Friday for Doug getting set
for these sweet six teams and night varying off though
to the NFL, as we are less than a month
away from the NFL Draft? Are you excited for the

(55:06):
NFL Draft? It's funny. I was just about to ask
you that. Um, I'll give you an answer. No. Yeah,
I've said this for months at The only storyline the
entire draft that we truly care about is Kyler Murray. See,
and I think Kyler Murray is less interesting now that
baseball is off the table, like when it was like
does he go? Does he stay? Like? Because I think

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with Kyler Murray, whether you think he's gonna work as
a quarterback or not, he's gonna go number one. And
so I don't even know how interesting that is to
me at this point, it's not And that's part of
the problem. Like there was even when I thought that
there was still a lot to a lot to be
interested in with Kyler Murray, with him being the only

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story of the NFL draft, I mean, there's there isn't
there is there. There there's no buzz, there is no
intrigue on if it's Josh Allen or Nick Bosa or
Quinnin Williams going to Nobody cares nobody really, that is,
it is not a It is not a topic of conversation.
The only thing that I thought that you could find

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out or have the drama is Kyler Murray being how
high up is Kyler Murray gonna go? And now it
seems that Kyler Murray is probably gonna go number one,
and so that drama has even been taken out of
the equation. I think it's we're sandwiched in between two drafts,
draft of What's Gonna Be draft that I think are

(56:28):
gonna be amazing for storylines, but this draft, to me,
is kind of a clunker. No, I completely agree, And
it was funny because I I feel I did a
bunch of fill in shows with my Buddy Arny Spaniard
around the time of bowl season, and I remember this
was such a fascinating topic because, like I just said
a minute ago, I didn't think there was any way

(56:48):
he was going to give up baseball. I didn't think
there was any way, you know, from a safety perspective,
from a guaranteed money perspective, and so I remember being like,
you know, and I think at the time there was
still this notion like he may still submit his name
into the NFL Draft and try to do both. And
then it was like, well, you know, he might be
a first round and I said, nobody's taking him in
the first round because I didn't think somebody was gonna

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take somebody as a part time quarterback that has baseball
as a fallback. But like you said, now he's he's
he's two feet in with football. Good for him. He
made the decision that he wanted to make. But I'm
with you, whether it's the Arizona Cardinals and it looks
like it's gonna be, or whether somebody trades up to
that spot, he's gonna be the first guy off the
board when you look at the NFL offseason, I'm safe

(57:31):
to say I think all of the interesting stuff is
now in our rear view mirror. Rock retired, olbi Ja
gets traded, uh Kareem Hunt signs with the Browns. Antonio
Brown gets traded, Levian Bell signs with the Jets. Everything
that we had look forward to in the off season
is rear view mirrors. So I think with the draft
coming up, Aaron, we have maybe a bit more of

(57:52):
a feel on how these teams are gonna are gonna
set up for the upcoming season already. I think that
usually maybe there was some some fluctuation because of the
draft and who could be brought in. If a team
was a player away, maybe they grabbed that player. I
don't think you're gonna get that in the draft. So
as I look ahead, I'm starting to look ahead of
the twenty nineteen season, and I look back at the

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moves that certain teams made in one team, in particular,
the Dallas Cowboys, and it kind of has me scratching
my head. And I think that the Dallas Cowboy fans
need to be worried about something. And it's following the
path of the Los Angeles Rams, And you say, well,
why would that be bad? The Rams made it to
a Super Bowl. The Rams made it to a super
Bowl last year. In an off season where they decided

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they're taking all of their chips and they're pushing them in.
They went and they acquired Marcus Peters, they got to
keep to leave. They brought in the Dominicans sue. They
gave Brandon Cooks a long term deal after bringing him in.
There was a lot of movement with the Rams, and
it seemed to be this rush to do so while
you were still paying Jared Goff a cheap contract. And

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when I look at the Rams, Aaron and you see
what they went through, you could say see it all
paid off. But when you really look in deeper to
what happened to the Rams this season, they made the
Super Bowl in spite of a lot of those things.
Marcus Peters wasn't that good. That keeps Lee was injured
half of the year. In fact, the offense that we
thought was gonna run through Jared Goff and Todd Gurley

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ended up running through C. J. Anderson during the second
half of the season. So this this thought of like, hey,
we're gonna go all in while we still have to
pay our quarterback on the cheap. It's something that's dangerous.
And when I see the Cowboys moves, moves of bringing
in Randall Cobb and making sure that there's a wide
receiving corps that that Dak can get with. By the way,
the Cowboys right now arguably have the best receiving core

(59:38):
in the NFC East. From a year ago when it
was completely they were rock bottom. Now when you look
around the NFC East, you say, wow, Dallas may have
the best. But all of these short term fixes, bringing
in Robert Quinn in a trade and signing him out
a one year deal, you gotta be careful what you
wish for, because I felt Dallas was building something and sure,
you're gonna have to pay Ezekiel Elliott and and Dak

(59:58):
Prescott at some point in these next couple of years. Aron,
it just concerns me that you think you can make
a bunch of moves and adding these veterans and get older,
and that's gonna put you over the hump because you
think that the Rams did it and it didn't work
out for the Rams as they would have hoped, even
though they made it to the Super Bowl. I completely agree,
and I think the big difference is with you know,

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Jared Goff just finished his third year. Obviously, dek Prescott
now going into his fourth year, and look, Deck's won
two NFC East titles in three years. He's been phenomenal.
But where I think it made sense for the Rams
was this Dan is that year one. Jared Goff just
a complete disaster, right like Jeff Jeff Fisher, he doesn't
know the playbook. We're watching hard knocks, and then Sean

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McVeigh comes in and overnight he's significantly better in his
softmore or his sophomore his second year twenty eight touchdown,
seven interceptions. So you see that monumental leap. You see
that they went from one of the worst teams in
the NFL to NFC West champions, and you say, we
got the coaching savant of the twenty one century in

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Sean McVeigh. We made all these monumental leaps with with
Jeff Fisher's guys. Let's bring in all these other guys,
because if Jared Goff is even a little bit better,
then we're in great shape. And we got Brandon Cooks
and the defense is short up and all that stuff
with Dallas. Let's be honest, Jason Garrett is not Sean
mcfe and Jared Goff, where are Dak Prescott? While he

(01:01:26):
has been consistently good, he's basically the same guy statistically
that he was in year three as he was in
year one. And so if he's not going to make
the leap and you don't have the coach to put
him in position to make the leap, then I don't
really know what you're doing. The increase that Dak saw
from seventeen eighteen was similar to the decrease that you

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saw in sixteen seventeen where his as he saying, like
the consistency of deck, there was a dip there, but
his rookie season wasn't much different than what it was
last year to your to your point of of seeing that.
So when you're looking at Dec, it's like, Okay, this
is what dec is. And whether we're paying him on
this rookie contract or whether we're gonna be paying him
the salary of what a good starter for the national

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football he should do doesn't necessarily change who Dak Prescott is.
And there are pieces around him that we now say, okay, wow,
look at this. Now you've got a Mari Cooper and
you're gonna end up having to, you know, pay him
his money as well. You've got the Marcus Lawrence who
you have to figure out a situation with if you
could give him a long term deal. It seems that
the Cowboys went all in for this season and and

(01:02:33):
and trying to make and maybe it's not an all
in feel, but I just don't know if if bringing
in a veteran and Randall Cobb, which some people think
that that he's done, is worth it. Adding a pass
rusher like Robert Quinn. Maybe it's insurance for de Marcus Lawrence.
But you know what, if you really want to make
that Super Bowl, you figure out a way to get
the Marcus Lawrence under contract. And I just think that

(01:02:53):
the Rams maybe set this precedent where what they the
plan didn't work out, but they ended up at the destination.
And I think that some teams may look at say, oh,
that's the way to do it, because I see a
lot of teams trying to follow the Seahawks plan and saying, well,
look at how great the Seahawks had to be when
they weren't paying Russell Wilson all that money. Well, the

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Seahawks were smart with a lot of their contracts with
Cam Chancellor and Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman and Michael Bennett.
They weren't giving them the moon. They were trying to
pay them what their value was, but they weren't going
to be completely hamstrung by those contracts. So Seattle maneuvered
it well and and aside from a dip in, they've
pretty much been steady. And that's the key to it

(01:03:36):
is is having a foundation. It's not just this rush
to win a title while your quarterbacks on the cheap
and then letting things go after that. Well, and the
difference with the Seahawks and both these teams is most
of those guys were drafted and so one you can
get them at a discount because of the fact that
they've been there, they're loyal to the organization. Then as
they got older, they said, you know, forget being loyal.
I'm gonna go where they pay me. But you have

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that you're not bringing guys from the outside. They already
know the system. So I think it was like a
star's perfectly aligned for the Seahawks kind of deal the Rams.
I think it worked because they were so far ahead
of schedule after year one with Sean McVeigh because Sean
McVeigh is awesome. But like I said, Jason Garrett, ain't
Sean McVeigh. Um. You know, the young guys that the

(01:04:18):
Cowboys have aren't Richard Sherman, Cam Chancellor, uh, Bobby Wagner,
these young guys. It's just two. It's three completely different scenarios. Yeah.
And the other scenario that doesn't get brought up a
ton is that the Rams were also competing against another
team in the city, and whether it was a close
fight or a firefight, it behoove the Rams. Let's make

(01:04:40):
a statement. Let's win right now, like go to the
Super Bowl to try to win over the city. That's
what I was gonna say too. That's another element. I
didn't mean to cut you off there, Dan, I'm sorry.
Is that is such a key component of this You
and I both live in the Los Angeles area, the
Rams and new because this stadium is getting ready to
open in we gotta make our mark right now so

(01:05:02):
we can sell PSLs and we can sell season ticket packages.
And oh, by the way, there's another team in town
where I think the Cowboys like, if you want to
win a Super Bowl, great, everybody wants to win a
Super Bowl, but they can be more patient, whereas the Rams,
like I said, I feel like two seasons ago, they
kind of struck lightning in a bottle. McVeigh comes, the
offense explodes, they win the NFC West, and they say, okay,

(01:05:23):
now let's go for this. Let's go for it all
because oh, by the way, we gotta sell eighty thousand
seats two years from now. I don't think that there
was a move that the Cowboys made this offseason that
makes me go, all right, they're good unless they signed
to Marcus Lawrence to his contract in any any under
contract and place where the Cowboys in twenty nineteen, I
thought they were gonna be good anyway. I think that

(01:05:45):
they were going to be a playoff team in twenty
nine team. But it's this offseason, of the moves they've made,
I don't think they've gone anywhere. And I think they
look at the Rams and say, look what the Rams
did well? The Rams did it in spite of what
happened to them in the off season. He's Aaron Torres,
I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Dog Gottlieb Show. Do
you miss any of the great action last night in
the n c double a tournament. Well you're not alone.
John Ramos did as well. We're gonna put John to

(01:06:07):
the test of what happened in Great College Basketball Action
after Steve de Seger gives us the latest. Hello Steve, Hello,
looking forward to it. Guys. You're aware that not only
of course, was an opening day for Major League Baseball yesterday,
and all the teams will be back in action Saturday
and Sunday, But about half the league has today off
and there's not a single day game. You could have
owned something today Instead, it's what they do have all

(01:06:30):
night games opposite Martin. We were talking about this earlier,
and I think one of the reasons they do this
is because they're afraid that the game may be rained
out or you know, like Cincinnati made all the more
reason to have a day game more time. Maybe maybe
they have to have a double header than I don't know,
it's just silly. By the way, there is a double
header of games tomorrow on FS one, starting at four

(01:06:50):
p m. Eastern time. See how I splip that in there.
I'm a professional. Try this at home. The Indians gave
Al Shieler Cameron Mayburn the minor league deal among the
games tonight, Houston at Tampa Bay. That's Garrett Cole against
Charlie Morton now at Tampa Bay. Shortstop Carlos Carey of
Houston out again with a sore neck. US women's soccer
stayed at number one in the New World rankings, with
Germany still number two. France at number four, will be

(01:07:13):
hosting the World Cup on Fox this summer. France beat
the US in an exhibition earlier this year. Roger Federer
plays his Miami Open semifinal tonight. Tiger Woods won his
third rounder of match play to advance to tomorrow's round
of sixteen with a two and one record. This week
in Austin, Texas. Rory McElroy now three and o after
a win today, he'll face Woods on Saturday. Among the

(01:07:34):
NBA games Tonight, Indiana at Boston seven pm Eastern. The
Pacers are one game ahead of Boston for the number
four seed in the East. College hoops cal hired Mark
Fox's head coach, according to a p and he's the
former basketball coach at Georgia and Nevada. Syracuse junior guard
Tis Battle is leaving for the NBA. The average seventeen
points per game this past season. We'll be back to

(01:07:55):
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(01:08:16):
Region number one seed Duke against Virginia Tech in Washington,
d C about five Eastern time. I'm not predicting an upset, certainly.
I do want to point out that Virginia Tech did
start the season fourteen and one, and that included a
win over per Due in one of those early season tournaments.
And the game of the regular season that at the
time jumped off the map for me was Virginia Tech

(01:08:37):
win at a ranked NC State team and the final
score was forty seven to twenty four against an NC
State team that was averaging eighty four points a game
at the time. They finished nine for fifty four from
the floor. That game made Texas Tech Michigan last night
look Like I said earlier this week on the air
that with those two great defenses last night at Anaheim.

(01:08:58):
The prediction was that's got eight written all over for it.
I thought it'd be a game in the fifties, just
not the nineteen fifty. I think I saw some two
handed setshots last night. I think did you mentioned Mark
Fox going to cal and you can point to the
n C Double A tournament appearances he made at Nevada
and for Georgia, but a lot of I at Georgia. Yeah. Yeah,

(01:09:19):
this was probably the highlight of Mark Fox's uh coaching career.
What made you the edge through the end of the game, Well,
which is defended? You know, we just defended and uh
mad enough bask us to get it late and then
men are free throws. Total team evert for you guys tonight?
How does it feeble to see these guys step up
going on the stretch and sec Well, we've been a

(01:09:40):
good team and that's got a good team, and so
we believe here were feeling good about how we played.
Thanks oh man. That was Dan Buyer yelling at his
TV last night after another missed three pointer from Michigan.
No that this is the great game for Dave. Anytime
Michigan loses is is good for me and I have Yeah,

(01:10:02):
Texas Tech final four. Yeah, so I think that's yeah,
there it is. I was I was dead last in
the fun. But if you want real stats from college basketball,
that NC State twenty four point game, they had nine
baskets and ten turnovers for the day. So that'll be
to last turnovers. How bad it would have been. Now, now,
John Romas, do you remember that NC State Virginia Tech game? Manday?

(01:10:26):
Like it may have well have been yesterday because John Ramos,
how much of the action did you see last night? Well,
if you count the first half of the first game
and the second half of the second game. Zo Okay,
So John didn't see any college hoops last night, and
so he missed the glorious Texas Tech Michigan game that
Steve was doing stats for. He also missed Virginia and

(01:10:49):
Oregon playing a barn burner Layton Louisville. And there was
even some intrigue in that first game in Kentucky between
Tennessee and Produced. So what we've got here, I've got
some stats. Aaron has some stats, like Steve the Sagarettes
some stats from last night. Yeah that and some of
these stats may not have happened. They could be made up.

(01:11:10):
So we want to let John Ramos, I don't know.
We'll put them on the spot in deciding was this
an actual stat from one of the games last night
in the Sweet sixteen? John, are you ready to play?
It's a simple yes or no game? You're ready to
stat them up? Let's stat all right, let's go, let's stats.

(01:11:30):
You want to throw a statu at John to see
if it's a real or fake? Sure, I will start
with this Dan Buyer's Michigan Wolverines eight minutes in? Did
they have over or under four and a half points?

(01:11:51):
I would say over? There is no There should be
a big X. Yeah, no, yes, there was an eight
minute span. I should have done a better job of this.
There was an eight minute span last that were Michigan
only scored four points? That did happen last night? So
we gotta give him yes or no? That's my bad,
torres Y, Yeah, that's alright. This this this segment is

(01:12:15):
started like Michigan Texas Tech last. That's what you get, okay, John?
Was there a game last night where a team only
got eleven minutes total from their bench? Yes? Yes, it
was Virginia eleven minutes total from their bench last night
in their Sweet sixteen win over the Oregon Ducks. Gen Ramos,

(01:12:36):
was there a game where one team with the final
five minutes of the game without scoring a single solitary point?
Yes or no? No? Oregon did not score a point
for the final five pulls up fires at three air ball.

(01:12:58):
I okay, you scot on. Did a team playing last
night have the stats as of late in the game
points off of turnovers zero, fast break point zero and
points from their bench zero. I'm gonna say, yes, that
was all right. It's all right, John. Did a team
last night have a guy to go over sixteen from

(01:13:20):
three point range? No? That is correct. No one shot
at that bad, but there was some awful shooting last night,
John Ramos, even though he hasn't watched its game and
watched the games, it feels like he was there. I
was gonna say, you know, we've talked a lot about
Michigan's inefficiency last night, John Ramos. Did Texas Tech have

(01:13:42):
two players single handedly outscore Michigan in the first half? Yes?
Or no? No? No is correct. I made that one
off the top of my head because there's one Because
Michigan only had sixteen at halftime? John, did a team
shoot fifty sent from the floor, from three point land

(01:14:02):
and from the free throw line? Did that happened last night?
I would say, yes, Well, I'm glad you listened to
the show because Aaron Torres brought it up earlier Tennessee.
Did yeah, when he's not playing air guitars during one
of your points and playing his own podcast? What she was?
Any more stats? You guys want to throw a jael?
Did a team last night, John, have not a single

(01:14:24):
one of its players shoot over from the floor? So
that means ten guys got on the court and not
a single guy shot over fifty? Say? Yes, that was
Michigan last night. All right, good job Michigan. Wow, this
is great? Yeah, captivating? So you got to watch the game, John,
Right exactly, that's my point. All right? What were you

(01:14:46):
doing instead? Last night? Had a softball game to coach? Oh?
Did you? Did you guys win? We did tend to
tend to four fake stats? So we're not playing again.
I thought were still playing the game, John, what any
any reason? Like you didn't want to take the games?
You just didn't care. I just felt like I just
wanted to kind of just let it flow through, be

(01:15:07):
like to today's show. Sure, sure, well he knew that
with a chance of the game being an Anaheim, it
would be off the air technically anyway with problems. So
that's true. I understand you have a list of things
that you would rather have done than watched. I do
have a list. These are three things I'd rather do
than watch those games. One, I'd rather coach another soccer
season where we lose every single game by an average

(01:15:29):
of four goals. Alright again, because that's already happened once.
I'd rather pinch a nerve in my neck when I
couldn't lift my arm. My art for a week's hilarious.
That actually did happen to John. Yes, I don't laugh. Yeah,
I ran the board for a week when I couldn't
lift my arm. You should have been here on kidney stone. Well,

(01:15:49):
that's coming next. I'd rather rush back to the hospital
kneeled over in pain from my kidney stones. There was
there was game was that bad? I did think it
was that. It was, Yeah, if they were throwing stones.
That segment was the Michigan offense of the Double A tournament.

(01:16:11):
That segment went one of nineteen from behind the arc.
You know, they just should have finished over because they
were they hadn't made You know, it's been it had
been literal years since they've gone an entire game not
making a single three point? Did you stay for the
whole thing? I did? He was there for the postgame
Prescott Friends when he raised his hand and said, Aaron Tarres,

(01:16:32):
Fox Sports coach, are you gonna resign today or tomorrow? No?
You know, I will say on Wednesday, I asked John
Beileine a question. He said, that was a great question
and then he answered it. So that was like the
highlight of my week. So don't you dare talk about
my relationship with John bee Line. He and I don't
want to say we're best friends. Did you say Aeron

(01:16:53):
Taurus Arnie Span your show, Who's that? Did you say that?
He said? Who's that? Who is that guy? Thanks, guys,
good job John for not watching the game. You shouldn't
do a heck, what was my record? Did you guys
keep a score that you were like Tennessee from the
free throw line fourteen twenty eight, So there was better
than perdue. By the way, who shot forty eight percent

(01:17:14):
last night? He's Aerontars. I'm Dan Buyer. This is the
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on this Friday. There's reason Doug isn't here is because
he was busy earlier today. And just because Doug isn't
here now doesn't mean we don't do what Doug usually does.
And that's here's something interesting from Fox Sports Radio or

(01:17:59):
Fox Sports One and a segment we like to call
Say And Doug was sitting in for Colin Cowhard on
The Herd on Fox Sports Radio and on Fox Sports
One addressing a report that some NFL executives are afraid
that Antonio Brown has now set a precedent with his
actions this soft season. Here's Doug's thought on this idea.

(01:18:22):
If you think that NFL owners and executives are like, hey,
this is awesome, we need to we need to really
plan for this, protect ourselves from players. The way to
protect ourselves some players is, dude, I don't want to
be paying money for a guy playing for a different
team instead of getting longer, contracts are going to get
shorter and more prohibitive in terms of movement. It is
a game of chicken, and Levian Bell was the one

(01:18:45):
guy who did not blink and he lost four team
million dollars. He's never gonna make back. Antonio Brown never sat,
but the Steelers were so done with them that they
were willing to take that cap it. But I don't
think that helps players in the future. I think that
hurts them in the future. So Doug is saying that
this won't be a president, not only that, it's actually
gonna be worse for those that follow in Antonio Brown's footsteps.

(01:19:07):
Do you see the same thing happening for those that
try to follower may try to follow what Antonio Brown did. Yeah,
I think it's Antonio Brown's just such an exception to
the rule for two different reasons. You I were talking
about this a little before we went on air. Dan
is one, he's so uber talented that, you know, he
is such a hot commodity that there is such a
demand for him in the trade market. But to what

(01:19:29):
I actually thought was interesting about Antonio Brown. He refused
to let this thing die. He refused to not get
his version of the events out, be at the Instagram stories,
be at the ESPN sit down, whatever, and so like,
I don't know if it's you know, um a third,
you know, the third best wide receiver on somebody's team,

(01:19:49):
if they really if America really cares why you're sitting out.
So I think Antonio Brown was able to force his
hand because of his talent. I don't know that other
guys can do that. I find it amazing that Antonio
Oh Brown got his way, and I just don't think
just so we're talking about the Cowboys a little bit earlier,
about following the rams and how that could be dangerous.
I think I think it would be dangerous for another

(01:20:10):
player to do this. Into Doug's point, I think that
he's right, and I think that you're right. There aren't
enough players in the league at the caliber of Antonio Brown,
let alone in the situation where he was able to
force his hand, and also be in a situation where
a team like the Raiders were willing to bring him
in and a team and give him the raise, and

(01:20:31):
that the hometown team or the team that had him
also would be willing to bite the bullet on the
salary that they had paid him. So I think that
all of those scenarios together just make this a one
time scenario and it's not going to play out if
it would happen again. Yeah, And I mean, look, we
always talk about in sports, does the risk out what

(01:20:52):
outweigh the reward? Does the talent outweigh the problems? And
so for Antonio Brown, like you said, he can throw
a fit, he can go on instag Graham and throw
his ownership under the bus, his quarterback under the bus.
If you know, I'm trying to think of the most
obscure wide receiver I can. If Tavon Austin, it's like
goes on Instagrams like I want to be traded. I

(01:21:12):
I can't play with Deck anymore. We'd be like, yeah,
I don't care, Like I'll go the other end. If
Julio Jones, who's got a contract situation Atlanta, does that,
it's not the same scenario. It's not in Antonio Brown
was the the one, the one off in all of this.
You like to say the outlier. That's what Antonio Brown was. Well,

(01:21:32):
that's all right, quick point. No. I was just gonna
say really quick to there was a very public reason
to not get behind Ben Roethlisberger after his comments as well.
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(01:22:39):
the late game Duke taking on Virginia Tech, and then
in the Midwest Region seven twenty nine Eastern time, North
Carolina goes up against Auburn, followed by Houston and Kentucky
in a two three matchup. For as much as there
was chalk in the n C Double A tournament, two
number one seeds advancing last night to the Elite eight,
but both three seeds knockout two seed in the n

(01:23:00):
C Double A Tournament. The perfect bracket that was is
no longer. That's gone by the wayside. I just had
a hard time giving people credit because I most everyone
had their entire final four heading into the Sweet sixteen.
Like you, you would have had to have picked the
five seed or a six seed to go to the
final four, and more times than not, people are picking

(01:23:21):
just one and two's. Yeah. No. And it was funny
even coming out of the weekend, um, you know, because
I I felt good that I had my whole final four,
and then I was like, wait a second, this this
really wasn't that hard. Um. So no, I don't disagree.
I think it's been good for the tournament to not
only have kind of the name brands, but also have
people's brackets still looking good coming out of week one.

(01:23:42):
But yeah, like you said, I don't know if this
is the time to do the lap around the office
because you had the final four a lot of the
first week, because the entire office would be doing those
laps because they also had thirteen. And we were talking,
we were talking brackets off the air with the guys,
and we said, when you get to the sweet six
like if you get thirteen out of the sixteen sweet

(01:24:04):
sixteen teams, that's almost unheard of, Like you went, you know,
nine or ten is usually what it was. But then
when fourteen of the sixteen seeds end up advancing to
that point, you had people who make twelve, thirteen, and
fourteen teams going to the Sweet sixteen, but things changing
a little bit. We'll see if it changes tonight. One
of the changes in the National Football League that made

(01:24:25):
big news this week at the NFL meetings where the
changes to the instant replay rule where now penalties and
non penalties can be reviewed by teams. I do like
as it's part of a challenge process where it's put
into that way where we're not calling every single penalty
and and in having it looked at. But a perfect

(01:24:46):
example of how things could go wrong is what we
touched on a bit at the top of the show,
and it's what happened last night in Louisville, Kentucky, when
Perdue in Tennessee ended up going to overtime after Carson
Edwards was fouled with a little over a second to
go on a shot as he was followed by La
Monte Turner. I thought it was a foul. You didn't
think it was a foul. As we watched the replays,

(01:25:07):
you and I are sitting here talking about these replays
and going back and forth. We're watching the same shot.
I'm pointing evidence that would lead to my argument. Your
pointing evidence that would lead to your argument, this to
me seems like something that could happen in the National
Football League. Yeah, it was funny as we discussed an
hour one. Uh, it felt like one of those uh,

(01:25:28):
gold dress, blue dress deals where we're looking at the
same piece of film and we're like, we just saw
it completely differently. But I do think the parallel is
there with the NFL because of this game didn't necessarily
cost Tennessee the game, or the play cost Tennessee a win,

(01:25:49):
but it wasn't the sole reason that they won. And
it does go back to the NFL, to the decision
this week that they're you know, the replay is expanded
and all that stuff. But it also goes back to
what we were saying on whatever it was January after
the after the Saints loose to the Rams, is that
the one play cost the Saints to win, but it

(01:26:10):
wasn't the only reason. And obviously it comes full circle
this week with the news. Yeah, yeah, with the overtime this,
you know, the Saints did have their options. What I
think is is so unique about about this situation and
to compare it to last night, is it's not last
night wasn't obvious last night showed us what was what

(01:26:34):
could be a problem in the future in the NFL.
Last night's play, to me, wasn't the obvious play that
you had with Saints and Rams? And what gets all
lost in all of this, I think is the inability
for the referee to do his job at that point,
we're sitting there trying to find all of these different
fail safes where if the person does the job in

(01:26:58):
the first place, maybe we aren't to that point. And
now like that that call and I know there may
be some argument about where the referee was that calling
the Saints Rams game to so many of us was
so obvious that we think that a call should have
been made, But we focus on Aaron correcting the mistake

(01:27:19):
that was made instead of finding out why the mistake
was made, like like like, it's still the referee who
was the the guy who made the bad call by
not making a call. And I think that's something that
gets lost in all of this because you asked me
about this call last night, of is the story different
if there is no call, and I think that it's

(01:27:40):
a it's a bigger deal. I think it's almost it
turns into a Saints Rams sort of discussion because there
was no call. The referee last night I felt did
his job and calling the play, where I don't think
that the Saints Rams official did his job and completely
missed the call. And that's where I think that the
the biggest issue with all of this is is you know,
there's a guy that just didn't do his job that day. Yeah,

(01:28:03):
and to go back to last night really quick, I
think part of the reason why it didn't become a
bigger story and why people were saying, well, it was
kind of a foul is because the kid missed the
first fall shot, right, so Tennessee was up by two.
He gets followed shooting a three pointer. If he wins
on that situation, if he makes all three fall shots

(01:28:23):
and they win by one point in regulation, I think
it's a bigger story. But because to the point that
you brought up earlier in the show, Tennessee still had
the chance to win an overtime, they couldn't capitalize. That's
why it's maybe not as big of a deal. So
that's that as far as the football situation is concerned,
I guess that's where to me, I don't want to
say I'm confused, but where I'm not like, uh, you know,

(01:28:46):
use the term I just used a minute ago. Like
I'm not doing a lap around the office. Super excited
because this rule got changed. Because for every one call
in Ram Saints where it's super obvious, we're gonna have
twenty calls where it's like, well, it's kind of well
he was he holding the jersey there, and I think
he grabbed his arm when he was going up. And
then I think it's going I think the new overtime

(01:29:11):
or the new um replay rules in the NFL, I
think it's going to create more headaches. I think it's
going to create more controversy because where is going to
be that line that warrants overturning Because there are certain
plays that it's you know, you need indisputable video evidence,
but it's a very cut and dried. If this happens,
then this should be a flag. But I don't think
it's quite as easy in a judgment call, like you know,

(01:29:34):
like a past interference. Richard Sherman tweeted earlier this week
and in a in a tweet back and forth with
Eric Weddo, who called the new rules dumb, dumb, dumb.
Richard Sherman tweeted, now they can control the game as
they see fit. Every defendable past looks like past interference
in slow motion. And that's a big issue. And it's
another big issue because this is another rule or another

(01:29:55):
instance that in my mind, is going to benefit the
offense more than it ever would the defense. I think
for every for everyone that was offensive past interference called,
we're gonna get ten that was defensive past interference, Like like,
if you're pushing off on a play, how much is
a referee gonna say, like, oh, he was going for

(01:30:15):
the ball. I just think it. It's such a it's
such a rule to help the offense and not the defense.
That's also going to cause some controversy. No, I don't disagree.
And that's why even when the play happened. And it's
funny because today I'm defending Tennessee saying it was it
wasn't a follow, the whistle shouldn't have been blown. Um,
but I remember when the Saints ramasing happened. I said like, look,

(01:30:36):
this isn't why the Saints lost the game. The Saints
lost the game because, as you alluded to Dan, they
had a chance in in overtime, and um, you know
they had a chance and drew Brees through the interception.
By the way, early in the game, there were two
drives that ended in field goals that could have been touchdowns.
And so there's a million little things that happened that
led up to that play. And that's why I was

(01:30:59):
never like this has Like there were some people that
came on the radio that Monday after Saints Ramas and said,
this has to be changed. And you know what was
New Orleans doing, like trying to sue the NFL or
boycott the Super Bowl or whatever they were doing, like
all of the above, there was lawyers involved, that's all
I remember. Get to play the game again or put that. Yeah,

(01:31:20):
so I I don't, I don't. I feel like this
is one of those in good spirit things that's probably
going to create as many if not more controversies in
it already does. And a Richard Sherman's point, like what
happens if there's a bang bang call and they do
decide to overturn it, Well, it's so obvious that they

(01:31:40):
wanted the Patriots to win, or the Chiefs to win,
or the Rams to win. Um, ironically, you know, to
to use the basketball analogies. It kind of reminds me
of what could have happened last week in the Duke UCF.
Remember late in the Duke Central Florida game, there was
the play that was called a non shot clock violation
and you step ended up score yeah on the taco

(01:32:01):
fall put back yeah. And it there wasn't quite indisputable
video evidence that the ball never touched the rim, but
it felt really close and it felt like the call
could go either way. Now they ended up not giving them.
They ended up giving the points to Central Florida. But
can you imagine if they had taken those points off
the board, it would have been Oh, of course, the
refs want the Duke to win, and I think we're

(01:32:23):
gonna get a lot of that in the NFL. I
think what you saw last night as well. There was
a play in the Oregon Virginia game. This is this
is why I like the challenge aspect of it, because
I think it really puts the onus on the coach
like you to use the challenge and so when you're
when you're under two minutes. The everything reviewed stuff makes

(01:32:44):
the other games different. But I look at Virginia and
Oregon last night where possessions were so limited like there
was there Virginia put their go ahead bucket up at
I think tied, Jerome hit a three and about three
thirty left in the game, and then neither team scored
for three minutes, so they so they go scoreless. Each

(01:33:05):
possession was valued. Well, there was a point at five
minutes where I believe it was Paul White who tried
to save a ball from going out of bounds for Oregon.
Not only when he jumped out of bounds, his foot
was on the line, but when he landed to throw
the ball back in bounds, his foot was planned, so
he was clearly out of bounds. In a game erin
where possessions are so valuable in in that type of

(01:33:27):
tempo game, that sort of turnover at the five minute
mark to me is just as important as the two
minute marks. So when we have these these these time
breaks where anything under two minutes put him put him
his challenges in that way, and then if a coach
doesn't want to challenge a play earlier in the game,
he's got that in his back pocket. But to me,

(01:33:48):
that just seems that seems a way to put it
on the illus of the coaches. And not on on
just this rule, because that was a really big play
that could have hurt Virginia and ended up not they
ended up winning the game, but in the way that
the game plays out, that possession at five minutes just
as important as any possession under two minutes last night.
So that's that's why I like, you know what, if
Tony Bennett didn't like the call, he could have used

(01:34:10):
a challenge instead of being like, my hands are tied
because it didn't happen over you know, at the two
minute mark. Yeah, I'll just be fascinated about this new
rule in the NFL for the exact reasons that we're
talking about. Is not so much how it's used or
anything like that, but what happens when there is that
controversial play that could go either way? Is it indisputable

(01:34:31):
video evidence to overturn a call? What happens when it
does happen, What happens when the Patriots are the beneficiary
of it, what happens when the Cowboys are the Packers
are a beneficiary of it. I'm not saying like, look,
the Saints Rams game situation was egregious, right, but most
of them aren't gonna be like that. Most of them
aren't going to be that obvious. And how refs used

(01:34:52):
the discretion to potentially overturned calls, potentially overturned wins and
losses is going to be the fascinating part to me.
Most of them aren't for births in the Super Bowl,
That's exactly, and so listen. I don't want to do
the whole like, oh, the typical typical league office overreacting,
but like I kind of feel like they over react
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You can always hear Aaron Saturday nights along on Arnie
Span You're eleven o'clock Eastern time, eight Pacific. You can
hear me Sunday afternoon with Nick Bodd five o'clock Eastern
time to Pacific. As we get the really got the
first crack with the entire Final four being set, should
be should be going down as our show is is
going on where the final bid to the Final four

(01:36:18):
will be given out. You got the live reaction to
the Bracket show too, right, Bracket Show. Yes. And then
last week we were on during U c F and Duke,
which was Yeah, which was an absurd minutes of of
just from whatever happened from the two minute mark on
was just was crazy. Yeah, And it's so fun to

(01:36:38):
try well. First of all, sometimes it's tough to know
exactly how to explain to the audience or what's going on.
I remember Arnie and I were on during do you
remember that l s U Texas A and M seven
overtime football game. So we're on trying to explain it.
So I'm in the back room over there getting ready
to come on set. I see the L s U
players dump ice and gatorade on it or is your

(01:37:00):
on signifying I would think a win. I come in
the studio, they're going overtime and Arnie and I are
trying to figure out in the moment what's going on
everything like that. Joining us now on the program with
everything going on. Heck, we can talk baseball, we can
talk college hoops, but we're gonna focus on the NBA
with a good friend from NBA, TV, Rick Campbell. Hey, Rick,
good to talk to you again. How are you afternoon?

(01:37:21):
What's up? You know Rick has sparked my interest back
in fantasy baseball. Yes, yes, he has. He has done that,
and so yesterday I was actively watching and we'll do
so for the next six months. You know, every day
when you're in fantasy baseball. Yeah, baseball means a lot
to you. You get the harrump from Aaron. Aaron, You're

(01:37:42):
not You're not feeling a daily six month grind with
all of Major League baseball, are you? I'll tell you
what first fantasy league I ever joined was basketball. I
finished in last place with my college buddies vowed I
will not finish in last place. Finished in first place
in baseball. I took Ryan Howard with about the fourth
or fifth overall pick. He won the m v P.

(01:38:02):
I think I got Hanley Ramirez in the second round.
Uh for what? For one summer I was John Schuerholtz
and then it all fell up hard after that. Uh, well,
you're not me and taking Francisco Lindora now wondering about
a strained calf, injured ankle. Yeah, second round pick, riding
the the the Pine right now because of an injury. Anyway, Well,

(01:38:23):
we'll move off a fantasy baseball. Let's get into the NBA.
As we kind of hit this home stretch, Rick, we
talked about that. We addressed the situation last night with
Janice in the Milwaukee Bucks as he hurt his ankle
on what was a completely innocent basically just collision, didn't
see Garrett Temple and steps on his foot awkwardly. My
argument was this is that if any of the other

(01:38:46):
NBA teams now get flak for resting players down the stretch,
or doing different things. This is something that they can
point to and say, hey, we don't want to lose
our star guy for the playoffs. Could this could this
be something that allows the NBA to let resting go
on without any really um I guess penalties or transgressions.

(01:39:06):
I really think it's case by case Dan in terms
of you know, Janice with with banging the foot and
all that. He's already been uh in and out of
the lineup, in and out of games with the right
ankle injury. So he needs to break. Man. He has
absolutely been um you know the m v P or
the m v P one a to James Harden uh
with twenties, seven points, twelve bore, six rebounds, the blocks,

(01:39:29):
the steel sent from the floor. He's been unbelievable. He's
been a superhero. So he needs to break clearly, and uh,
you know, and then we talked about this, you know,
Kawhi Leonard, load management, Kyrie Irving, load management, bothers the
crap out of me. I will never be okay with it.
I love the fact that Lebron James is playing. I
know he's not playing in both ends of the back

(01:39:49):
to back, but he wants to honor the basketball gods,
Bravo Lebron. He wants to play for the fans, for
his team, for stats, uh and all that. Jaz So yeah,
so I'm totally okay if Jana stakes several games off
here to get ready for the playoffs. So earlier this week,
Warriors get smoked by the Mavericks in a game where

(01:40:12):
Steph Curry rested all that stuff. Obviously, like in the
small picture, it's not a big deal. But in the
big picture the Warriors. Are they just gonna flip a
switch once the playoffs start again or is there any
real threat out there? There isn't. Um, sorry to spoil
the Suspensionody listening on Fox Sports Radio, I would love
you know, I felt that. I felt, you know, not

(01:40:33):
because look Villanova last year in college basketball, I picked
him in every tournament. I just they were the gene.
They were gonna win it, and they did. Um And
you know, it's usually more unpredictable in college but in
the n b A, we know what's up. Man, it's
going to be the Golden State Warriors. When they win this,
it's going to be how many games do they lose?

(01:40:54):
You know, do they go sixteen and oh do they
go sixteen and one, sixteen and two, sixteen and three.
That's gonna be the measuring stick, because this is gonna
be four out of five. It's gonna be a three peak.
This is now going to ball up. This dynasty up
there with the greatest dynasty is in NBA history. And
while I realized that Draymond Green may not belong with
this group, I think Durant is staying. I think Clay

(01:41:14):
Thompson is staying. Um. I don't know about Boogie Cousins,
but Durant, Clay and Steph three of the top ten
shooters of all time. I believe we're gonna stay together
for several more years and at several more championships. So
so real quick, I mean, so much speculation has been
Katie and the Knicks. Um, besides the super obvious of
you have a chance to make history in a way

(01:41:35):
that really nobody since the Celtics in the sixties has
what is the reason that you're confident Katie'll stay? Um?
I just knowing Katie, he's He's a laid back, humble
guy who made a decision that that did not blow
up in his face. It's been a brilliant decision, but
publicly with reputation, it kind of sort of has blown
up in his face. I don't hold going from ok

(01:41:57):
Sy to Golden State against him, many others do, so
I don't think he wants to deal with that again.
I also think he's having a blast playing with Steph
and Clay and in a Steve Curse system. Um, it's
a hunch of educated speculation. I don't have intel on it,
but I believe Duran a sting Rick Cavla joining us
here on the Doug got Leave Show on Fox Sports Radio.
He's Heern Tours. I'm Dan Buyer. So how close is

(01:42:18):
this Rockets team now to the Rockets team that took
the Warriors to seven games last year? Boy? Interesting? Um?
I think I think they're pretty much humming along it
at that clip. Now, you know, you don't have Trevor
a reason on this year's team. You had him on
last year's team. There are some other piece a little
bit different, reads different, Yeah, exactly. You know. You've got

(01:42:41):
Daniel House doing his thing right now, and recording obviously
is still there. If the Rockets are loaded, they're deep,
they're confident, they're healthy. Uh, you know, and I know
Manimal has been in and out of the lineup here
a little bit. He'll be right for the playoffs. I
think they're right back to where they were last year. Um,
you know, sixty five wins. Obviously they haven't had that
spectacular of a season, but they've had injuries, they got

(01:43:03):
up to a slow start and all that stuff. I
do think that, Um, I really go back and forth
then between Oklahoma City with the way they defend, They've
got two superstars. The problems that they present versus the
problems that Houston presents for Golden State, UM, I think
both could give Golden State a pretty good run for
their money. So obviously, the buzz on the college level

(01:43:23):
is about Zion Williamson. And you know, the ratings have
been through the roof. I mean, Duke games are now
must watch in NBA locker rooms. NBA. I mean, obviously
we know what he looks like as a long term
NBA prospect, But are people at the NBA level as
engaged and invested in kind of watching this kid at
the college level as most of America is. There's no
question and uh, you know, for a couple of years

(01:43:45):
there and uh, the analysts and I worked with an
NBA g V. You know, we'll be in between a
segment or something and that they'll be on their phones
and like, whoa, look what Zion did right, And I'm like,
you know, two or three years ago, I'm like, who's
this Zion guy? And you know, they would show me
the video and I'm like that you just doing that
and they're like, yep, he's six five Yeah, I mean

(01:44:06):
fallers talk follers, no ballers like they have been on Zion,
uh for like two or three years, going back to
like the middle of high school for him. So I've
been hearing about Zion from from the analysts. I got
my eye on him obviously a whole bunch this year
with you, Um, the hype is real, guys. He's an
absolutely amazing Claire. Does tonight tell us anything? By the way,
Rick Cambella joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

(01:44:26):
Just tonight's game with the Celtics home to the Pacers.
If Boston wins, and I know we're playing hypothetically, but
this could be a first round matchup. If Boston wins, Tonight,
does this tell us that things are maybe back to
normal after their four game sladder. They're still issues in Beantown. Dan,
I know where you're going with this. What what it?
What it will tell me if Boston takes care of

(01:44:47):
business tonight is that they have the ability to flip
the switch. Because it feels like they've been doing that
all year, Right, they flip it, They played great, and
then they turn the switch down and they lose to
a team they shouldn't lose too. So if you can
just flip at switch tonight beat Indiana, you will move
into a virtual tie with them. Boston's one game back
going into tonight. Obviously that's critical. You don't want to

(01:45:09):
go to the field House in downtown Indie for a
Game seven. You want them to come to t D
Garden where you will win by twenty five points because
that's what the Celtics do at home in Game seven.
So big game tonight, I believe Boston is gonna rise,
punch him in the face and get the win. So
he's talked about flipping a switch on the court for
the Celtics, But what about off the court? I mean,
Kyrie with those kind of weird comments about Kemba Walker,

(01:45:31):
the defensive game plan is there that much strife in
that locker room because it just feels weird with Kyrie
and he's got always weird comments and it's just something
just doesn't feel right to me. Off the court, No,
it doesn't feel right to me either. You know. I've
I've I've heard from some front office people that that

(01:45:51):
they're not really looking at the Brad Stevens job this year. Um,
like he's been doing a good job. I've also heard
that Brad Stevens has been a little bit um, a
little bit lax, a little bit uh like like the
opposite of a disciplinary and he's kind of letting guys
do their thing a little bit um and maybe a
firmer hand is required with this group. So I'm starting

(01:46:11):
to hear some criticism of Brad Stevens. Um, and someone
tell that has me kind of gone m Um. The
the cryptic quotes from Kyrie Irving, who like he says
he hates doing media. But you know, it's like, it's like, dude,
I'm not buying this, zow. It feels sorry for I
don't like dude, You're a Max player who's making movies,

(01:46:33):
just got a shoe contract. This is part of the game, bro.
But Aaron's your point. It is funky, but I think
the overall talent of Boston, of the electricity and urgency
of the playoffs, is going to get this team to
play the right way. He's Rick Camlo, see him on
NBA TV. Here, I'm on syrius x MMBA Radio talking
fantasy and and all that. We appreciate it. Rick Twitter

(01:46:54):
at NBA TV. Ricks, same as usual. Have a great weekend,
Bud Dan, Aaron, take it easy. Rick Cammella joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio. Rick's got his hat and
so many different arenas. Wanted to make sure we got
it all squared away. I'm telling you, for one summer,
I was an amazing fantasy baseball I mean like every day,
you know, like like games are going on. Oh that
guy's three for four, I gotta pick him up. I

(01:47:15):
mean I was making more moves than uh, I don't
even know, than fill in the blank front. I was
like less need less summer. I was just buy and
sell and trade hold all that. Yeah, you were the
John Dorsey. Yeah that's what John Dorsey. You were the
You were the mover and shaker of that. In fact,
I wasn't even in the league and I heard about
Aaron's moves. That's right. You should see me summer of

(01:47:37):
O six. It was a magical time, boys, it was
a magical time. Yeah, he's Er Torres. I'm Dan Buyer.
This is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
While Rick Cammela doesn't see Kevin Durant's leaving Golden State,
there are some thinking you could leave for the East
Coast and the Big Apple. We'll tell you about that
after Steve de Sager gives us the latest on this Friday. Hello, Steve,

(01:47:58):
I honestly thought you were gonna say more moves than
John Ramels doesn't move to the TV to change the channel.
Apparently we learned that the hard way earlier. Didn't watch
any basketball last uh, no day last night. That's right,
he had business, He had family, business and a win
to be had. No day games in Major League Baseball
for some unknown reason today and just eight games this evening.

(01:48:20):
Brewer's reliever Corey Kinable will have Tommy John surgery. The
Indians gave outfielder Cameron Maybrid a minor league deal Houston
at Tampa Bay Tonight. Short stop for Houston, Carlos Carea
is out again with a sore neck. The Angels will
add Matt Harvey as they're starting pitcher in one of
the late games at Oakland tonight. And by the way,
the Seattle Mariners are three n O and host Boston
again tonight. Seattle got a couple of wins over the

(01:48:42):
A's in Japan a week ago to start the season
and then beat up Boston last night, and everyone in
Seattle awaiting the start of you say Cokuchee from Japan
in Seattle tonight. US women soccer stayed number one in
the New World rankings. Roger Federer plays his Miami Open
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Tiger Woods won his third rounder of match play to

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advanced to tomorrow's Round of sixteen. Six NBA games tonight,
including Golden State at Minnesota. The Warriors are first in
the Western Conference, one game ahead of the Nuggets. Denver
plays at Oklahoma City, and College Basketball Sweet sixteen concludes
in the n c A Tournament two games in Washington,
d C. Including Number one Duke against Virginia Tech. That's
the late game at about ninety five Eastern that follows

(01:49:25):
the l s U Michigan State matchup in the East Region,
two games in Kansas City, number one seed in the Midwest.
North Carolina faces Auburn and then at ten pm Eastern
Kentucky against Houston. Cal hired Mark Fox's head coach, Syracuse
junior guard Tius Battle is leaving for the NBA. He
averaged seventeen points per game this past year. We'll be
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Fox Sports Radio. He is Aeron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer
New York Daily News with the report saying that several
NBA executives, agent scouts, assistant coaches. I think that Kevin
Durant is going to the New York Knicks. Now Rick
Kamela has a different opinion, thinking that he's gonna stay
with the Warriors. As Rick just joined us. But Bill
Simmons was on w f A N with Mike Francesa,

(01:50:27):
and Simmons says that he would bet the house on
Durant signing with the Knicks this summer. And I just
hear all this stuff, Aaron, and I just think where
there's smoke, there's fire, that there's and I know that
there seems to be a lot of connecting the dots
here and there, but when they're coming from different sources
in different places and coming out of different outlets, I

(01:50:51):
think that there's really something to this that and and
Rick mentioned four four championships in five years. If they
can get it done in this year, I wouldn't white
Kevin Durant would want to stay in Golden State. I
don't know what there is more to prove in Golden
State than he has during his time there. Yeah, and
I think there's a few things. I mean one, obviously,
no matter how long he stays in Golden State, he'll

(01:51:13):
never get the credit that he deserves, even though he's
now won two championships, two finals MVPs. But in terms
of the rumor itself, Dan, I've been doing this long enough,
and you know I'm a young guy. But there are
certain things that we've covered in radio where it's just
like you hear about it for so long and it's

(01:51:33):
so persistent, and as you said, so many different people
are speculating on it that it just every time something
this extensive has happened, the thing ends up happening. Right
Like we heard for a year and a half that
Lebron when his contracts up in Cleveland, he's gonna go
to l A, finish out his career with the Lakers,
work on his entertainment in movies. It ends up happening.

(01:51:56):
I can think of a million other similar things. You know,
Jim Harbaugh halfway through his last year with the forty niners,
it's not gonna work out him, and and Bulky was
the guy at the time with the San Francisco for
he's gonna go to Michigan. Six months later it happens.
And so this is one that's been going on for
so long. I just think it's an inevitor I don't
want to say it's an inevitability, but it feels that
way with this. I think also that there's gone there's

(01:52:18):
been enough time between the Carmelo. Let me put it
this way the Carmelo success with the Knicks, which I
know that there wasn't a ton of second but but
but when like like, things are just bad the the
final couple of years, and you know, whether it be
Phil Jackson or not, that there's there's enough of a
gap where I think memory wise, if you are Kevin Durant,

(01:52:42):
and even if you see James Dolan getting into it
with a fan, you say to yourself, Okay, maybe I
could be the guy that to change it around. And
I think, like, like you, you forget it's been so
difficult for the organization that that you maybe forget some
of the good times, Like it wouldn't replacing an idol
or a hero right away. Like there's enough of a

(01:53:04):
bridge of a gap there where things haven't gone right
where you could just move in and everything would be great.
And I think that's actually kind of one of the
things that that Lebron thought was gonna happen with the
Lakers was that because things have been so bad, I'm
just gonna come in and make it better. I think
that Kevin Durant mate look at that if these reports
are true, and just be like, all right, well, when

(01:53:25):
I come there will instantly be better and at least
will instantly make the playoffs. Well. And that's what I
think is so fascinating about this, right because we have
now a thirty plus year track record of if Jim
Dolan's running this thing, it's not gonna end well. And
I remember last year when Fitzdale was hired and everyone, oh,
they're raving. Oh this is the guy. He gets young players,

(01:53:46):
look at what he did in Memphis. And I said, look,
I'm old enough to remember when Larry Brown was supposed
to be the savior with the Knicks, when Mike D'Antoni
was supposed to be the savior with the Knicks, when
Phil Jackson was supposed to be the savior with the Knicks.
None of them were. And the one common denominator was
that the team has a lousy owner. And so maybe

(01:54:07):
Kevin Durant is that transcendent of a player. Maybe he'll
get together his own version of whatever is gonna happen
with the you know, maybe he'll bring other guys with him.
I just have a thirty year track record of the Knicks.
It just doesn't get done because of poor ownership. Poor
you know, the way that it's run is really poor.
I don't know that even Kevin Durant can change that

(01:54:28):
if he does come. If Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving
team up in New York, would you put them atop
the East from a storyline perspective, they'd be the most interesting.
I don't think. And I'm one of these guys, and
I truly believe this. I'm not saying this because it's
like a hot take. I think both of those guys
will crumble under the media pressure, the media scrutiny of

(01:54:49):
New York. There's there's a lot they would have to
go on as well. Kawhi Leonard's gotta figure out what
he's going to do. But I see them in New York,
and I don't think that they're better than Milwaukee. And
I know Milwaukee's got a couple of but honest is
gonna be there. Eric Bledsoe is gonna be there. And
I just if Kauai is back in Toronto, I don't
know if they're better than Toronto. I mean right away,
like maybe you put other pieces around them and then

(01:55:11):
there's something, but that's I don't think it's his. Fore God,
I think their top half, you know, with Philadelphia there
as well, and they've got their own issues. But I
don't think it's an automatic descent to number one or
rise to number one if they if both of them
go to New York, well, I would add, even with
the Miami Heat that first year, it took a while

(01:55:31):
for them to find their group, and they didn't win
a championship the first year. And I think it's easy
to say, well, look what Katie did with the Warriors,
but the Warriors were coming off seventy three wins, they
had three All Stars already in the lineup. This would
be bringing a whole group of guys who has never
played together under a coach who has never been under
this scrutiny. I don't think it's as easy as just
you put these guys in a Knick's uniform. They're the
favorites in the East. He's Aeron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer.

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I'm Dan Buyer, Ryan Music are executive producer, John Ramos
our technical producer, and Steve de Sager has been anchoring
for us throughout the day. We bring in Steve now
to get caught up on all the stories we may
have missed and everything that's going on in the sports
world the press. Oh Steve, hello again, guys, And we'll

(01:56:59):
tell Lebron James first. You know Dave mcmenamon, the reporter
that has covered Lebron four years now, that Lebron's a Laker.
He's an l a reporter, not a Cleveland reporter. But
the Lakers have missed the playoffs for a sixth straight season.
James personal streak of thirteen straight playoff appearance comes to
an end. Mcmanimum asked about the roster construction of the
lot of the Lakers this year, not a lot of

(01:57:21):
elite level shooters surrounding him on the court. Asked about
the roster construction for season one in l A, he
responded that experiment end quote, oh ah, experiment. I will
say this. I was the idiot that thought, you know what,
Lebron's got a lot of guys to do his dirty work.

(01:57:43):
Land Stevenson, Rajen Rondo, you got Javaale McGee there, they're
all going to do the grit stuff while Lebron can
lay back and do whatever. A little did I realized
they had zero shooting. Hello, they also had a lot
of headcases. That was my concern is how do you
keep all these guys? You call him cases, I call
him grit guys. I mean, this isn't hockey like. There

(01:58:04):
aren't fistfights on the court every night. I listen, that
was one. You know, Steve can attest to this, or
maybe he can't, but hopefully he will. Is I was
on with Arnie Spake. Just claim you heard me say
this to say or whether you did or not. But
we were on air when Magic had his meeting with Lebron,

(01:58:25):
and I said, I don't think Lebron is gonna like
playing with these young guys. I don't know who they
can sign. I predicted this would because yes, about attested
to The ratings are out for the college hoops last night.
As far as cable channels, only, TBS had the night's
top four slots. As far as Thursday action on the
regular channels, CBS was to number two, although there was

(01:58:52):
about six and a half million the audience for Gonzaga
Florida State the seven pm Eastern game, but that's down
eight percent from last year's Loyola Cargo Sweet sixteen. Really
they for New Tennessee. Overtime was on TBS and that
scored almost five million. CBS is launching in the fall
a show called Sister Jean. Maybe that'll completed. Never seen

(01:59:15):
an episode of Gray's Anatomy, have you know? I can't
say that I have. It's one of those doctors shows, right,
you'd think if you've seen it, if you would call
it fighting in hospitals, I've heard of it. It's like saying, like,
you know, have you seen uh, you know it's like
I've never seen Game of Thrones. I know it's dungeons
and dragons, like come on, like you know, like opening

(01:59:39):
day rosters out of course, because yesterday was opening day
in Major League Baseball. Guys, about nine hundred Major League players?
How many are from the Dominican Republic? Rosters at about
nine day? What you got there's nine hundred, four hundred
players from the Dominican public. I would say, like two

(02:00:01):
d I'm thinking it's where is yeah, Dominican Republic. By
the way I looked it up, it's a It's ten
million is the population. So they're about as big as
Los Angeles County. I'll say about I'll say, I'll say
it is about a hundred and one foreign country as

(02:00:23):
over a hundred Major leaguers in one season for the
first time, it's well over ten percent of the league.
Steve what I what I was doing there was like
when you got a good deal on something and I
go like, hey, Aaron, I got this pen here. How
much you guess how much it cost? And then you
go like two bucks and you're like, no, it was
only five, but thanks for ruining. You're supposed to like
guess really high and I guess I ruined it for

(02:00:45):
Steve by the way, Venezuela with about seventy players, Cuba
about twenty, Puerto Rico about twenty major league players, and
the salaries are out every year. USA Today does its
annual salary survey. More than fifty percent of the league
are millionaires do many multi millionaires, of course, And then

(02:01:06):
there are the guys who are getting close to minimum
still because you have no leverage in your contract your
first three years. So guys like Aaron Judge, your Josh
Hayter and All Star Walker Bueler, they're all making near
major league minimum. Although I'll mention it's the best labor
union in the country. Major League Baseball minimum wage is
over five dollars. Do you remember wasn't a sports illustrated

(02:01:28):
that puts salaries on the cover? Yes year it was
like Kirby Puckett three million. Yeah, and that was like
that was almost blasphemous blasphemy as well, like, oh my goodness,
it's blasphemous. How can you do that? You know, how
can you put a guy's salary on the cover of
a magazine? On the cover they also put like Sean

(02:01:49):
Kemp with eleven illegitimate children on the cover that only
really did it was a cover. I've saw it you
can google. Coming up this weekend, matt Play golf continues
in Austin, Texas. Now, Golf and Dan, correct me if
I'm wrong. We're into the March Madness portion of golf, right, yeah,

(02:02:09):
losing you go home this weekend. Yes, this weekend. They
had to do it. They had to do the new
format because their stars were losing in the first round
and then you didn't have them for the next four days.
So everybody got three matches this week. He had the
third match today, correct, And we're gonna have a good
one tomorrow, is well, excuse me, a magnificent one Rory
against Tiger Tiger Woods against four seed Rory McElroy, who

(02:02:30):
is three and oh this week. So the loser is
out tomorrow in Austin, Texas. Out there and press the press.
All right, let's break it down, Aeron Torres? Who is
your final for the match play? No, I'm kidding. What
what happens tonight? In college basketball Sweet sixt Michigan State
and LSU. I picked Michigan State in my bracket. My

(02:02:52):
heart tells me that l s you will find a
way to win the all right. Then after that it's
North Carolina and Auburn in the Midwest region. You're North
Carolina tar Heels going ok. And then we'll jump back
to Duke Virginia Tech Duke all right, and finally Houston
against Kentucky. Is it all PJ? Washington? It is all
Houston Cougars. Oh, there it is. He's Errataurus. I'm Dan
Buyer in for Doug. Have a great week, and everyone.

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