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to the Tuesday Podcast. I'll give you my thoughts on baseball.
Mike Sandal will join us his tear rankings for quarterbacks,
Chris Mannock will join us inside the Bubble in the NBA,
and Scott Miller how bad is this Marlins covid outbreak?
First though, speaking of the outbreak boom of America. Doug
Gottleap Show, Fox Sports Radio, Welcome in. I hope you're
having a great day. We got Hoop on TV, Baseball

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on TV, the Attorney General on TV, but more than
any then, we got whoop on TV, Grizzly putting it
on the heat, and Little Scrimmage. Um so uh, we
got that Anthony Davis news he may miss the Lakers
opener which is Thursday night, Thursday Night NBA on your TV. Yay,

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that's gonna be fun. Cheld be fun to have uh
basketball that people can legitimately gamble upon to take us
away from what is the COVID crisis. Speaking of basketball,
we gave respect to Adam Silver and the very conservative
plan of the Bubble, which to this point appears to

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be working. But I saw this from Joel Sherman, who
covers Major League Baseball for the MLB Network. He's our insider.
So when finalized, likely today, this is the outcome of
the Marlins and their group text. Marlins will not be
playing before Monday, Phillies not be playing before Friday, Yankees
at Orioles on Wednesday, and Thursday. Nationals off this weekend

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because the Marlins were supposed to be the opponent, which
is the way it works, right where when the selfish
or disorganized behavior of the few affects the masses. And
then you look at the n b A and Lou
Williams and the discussion about the Wings. Can I just

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say something I've I've ingested, not just wings, but all
the conversation about Magic City Wings, and I want to
state something which I think is not debatable. Okay, the
best wings I've ever had are from a place called
Sliders in Bristol, Connecticut. Now most people work at ESPN

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believe there's a place right down the street called Jay Timothy's. Okay,
Jay tims has. It's known they do dirty wings, which
is where they you know, put all the sauce on them,
cook them, and then put sauce on him again. I'm
not sure they cook him again or something, but there's
lots of sauce and lots of cooking and they're really
really good if you like that sort of thing. I

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like Sliders down the street better. But the difference between
the greatest wings ever and some good wings that you
can get from Wild Wings is this much is a
tiny amount as opposed to you go to the greatest
steakhouse and you get Kobe beef. You get something that's
age marbled, you know, something that's an ounce. The difference

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team that steak in you know, going over to the
waffle house and getting steak and eggs two dollar steak. Yeah,
that's it. There's a massive difference there. So please stop
with the Hey, Lou Williams, I understand Magic City Wings
are the best. All of this behavior is really guy behavior.

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This is who we are. This Honestly, Damian Lillard was right.
I'm not sure if all the guys are gonna follow
the rules and you don't. But that's the story here.
The story is not the virus, It's just not It's
not the virus. It's how we react two people, how

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do we adjust to an outbreak and it's caused? Was
it four Patriots? Now? Dante high Tower, Brandon Bolden, who
I don't think it was gonna make the roster, he
gets to pay out, Patrick Jung starting safety, and Marcus
Cannon have all decided to opt out of the Patriots.
So you have a massive freak out from one NFL team,

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you got freak outs from fans, you got baseball trying
to go like, all right, let's figure this out, let's
make it smart, let's shut it down, Let's let's figure
out a way to proceed. That's the story. That's the story.
This is Rob Manfred in the NBB network talking about
the season after this COVID outbreak within the Marlins. No,

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there really wasn't. We talked about the situation. I think
most of the owners realized that we built protocols anticipating
that we would have positive tests at some point during
the season that the protocols were built in order to
allow us to continue to play through those positives. And
I think there was support for the notion that, um,

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we believe that the protocols are adequate to keep our
players saying, look, we we had the protocols. People. I
saw people cancel baseball. Baseball's done. You can't play within like,
yes you can, yes you can. What what you can't
have is players deciding their fate over group text. That's

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not part of the protocol, right, you just can't. It's
the It's the same thing with politicians deciding what doctors
and scientists say, Like, yeah, let the doctors and scientists
decide what what we should do. Oh here it is
page little eight. Players get just like, no, in no
place in any manual, in any sport, during in COVID

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or any other outbreak, does it say the players get
to the side because you know, we already started playing,
So let's just keep playing. We're already here, right, Let's
just send out a group text. Are but good? Plus,
you know you don't be the guy in the group
text with the thumbdown emoji. You're gonna be that guy
we got you know, we got twenty three s is

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in one. Now, Johnny, you want the day off? What
are you soft? Sixty games? We're all here, we're in Philly,
we're getting out of town. We're going to back to
Miami afterwards. Get your captain glove and let's play some baseball.
You know, William Mayes would have said, let's play two.
You're not even one of the ones who's sick. So

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I just I look at this. We'll talk about the
Patriots upcoming, and then Mike Sandos gonna join us. He
has the tier rankings for quarterbacks plus and when get
his take on these the Now we got the four Patriots, Yes,
some other players as well. They're opting out of the steal.
But the story a day later is not the Marlins outbreak.

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The story two days later is not lou Williams going
to Magic City. The story is the same story. Like
these rules are put in place to keep everybody safe.
It's it's a lot like the helmet law. Yes, you
can ride a motorcycle without a helmet. And I think
in one state, I think it's New Hampshire is only

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one where you still legal to write it without a helmet.
You can. But the reason is not for if everything
goes great. It's if you crash and your brains are
splattered all over the highway, everybody has to pay to
scoop him up. Or more likely, if you just lay

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down your your motorcycle. And usually, by the way, motorcycle
guys will tell you it's not actually my fault. It's
usually the car, the truck that can't see you, doesn't
pay attention, doesn't and you're going a little bit faster,
a little bit quicker, a little bit more, ad joel.
But the problem with motorcycles is you're not in a
motorcycle bubble. You've got cars and trucks and bands and whatever,
and there's blind spots or people just on their cell

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phones not paying attention, and you sideswipe one, they lay
down in the road, they break their leg, or they
get road rash. We end up between the police, the emergency.
If you have insurance, if you don't have insurance, it
doesn't matter. You're gonna get treated. That that's why. And
oh yeah, by the way, we want to protect you
from yourself and protect your your head. As Seinfeld would

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say that the the irony to the to the helmet
law is it's protecting ahead that's performing. So a brain
that's performing so poorly it doesn't know it to be protected.
But these protocols are put into place. Whether or not
you think the COVID crisis is real or it's created

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or made to be bigger by the media and by
spikes in areas that are not yours, that doesn't matter.
When you signed up to play a pro rated amount
in the NBA and the NFL and you said this
is what I'm gonna compete with. You signed up over
a certain set of rules, and if you don't abide
by those rules, not only does it affect you, it

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affects your teammates. It might affect the entire sport. And
instead of overreacting and saying shut down sports, let's see
how we come through this crisis. Was it two more
Marlin's guys tested positive today, right, so it's running through
the team. Let's see if they get hurt immunity. We've

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had this. I mentioned it yesterday Oklahoma football people tested
positive of their first test. Nobody's tested positive. Since your
quarantine people, you isolate people, you help them get healthy.
You hope that they don't have compromised immune systems, and
you hope that they don't get the worst form of
the virus, and then when they're healthy, you slowly integrate
them back into the team environment. That's what's been done.

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I am not a doctor, I'm not a scientist. I
didn't stay the holiday and express I don't know anything
more than to pay attention to where this has happened
previously and how it's been treated previously. Is it perfect? No,
but it can be done. It has been done, it
will be done. And how Baseball and now the NBA

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react to guys not following the protocols is what is paramount?
Instead of pointing out what the loopholes are within the protocols,
you know your game twenty four hours. He came up
with a plan. Here's what we're gonna do. They're not
gonna play. They's not gonna play. We're you just to
figure it out what canceling And and the great thing
about canceling games now is you're just really adjusting logistics.

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You don't have to tell fans there's no games to
go home. Yeah. TV companies get screwed out of the deal, right,
You just do. And if you thought this was going
to be perfect. The reality is baseball is not a
perfect game anyway, Like you have rainouts all the time.

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If you thought during a crisis, which we have never
been through before in the modern history of America, no
one's ever been through this, let alone try to execute
professional sports, if you thought it was gonna go off
in our country without a hitch, it's no different than Look,
we we were on quarantine, we were on lockdown. There
were certain people that were disobeying. Those people got disciplined.

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There were outbreaks within it. Remember we shame certain beaches
and those people some of those places, how outbreaks within
and we told you these things would go wrong, and
a right like, look, I I'm with you, I understand.
Sometimes doctors tell you you sprain an ankle, stay off
it for a month, a week later you feel fine.
It's a bit ridiculous, but there is a logic behind
why they are relatively conservative, why they tell you to

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wear a mask and to sanitize your hands and to
stay six ft away or more from somebody else. But
professional collegiance sports, they can be managed. And this is
for lack of a better what this is a great case.
We got breaking news major League Baseball let's get to
Dan by Dan when he got breaking news from Fox Sports.

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Just an update on what you were just talking about.
Major League Baseball making an official that the Marlins will
not play a game until Monday at the earliest. The
total now nineteen members of their organization reportedly testing positive
for coronavirus. The Nationals had voted as a team to
not want to play in Miami this weekend. They're now
not going to have to. The Major League Baseball rescheduling

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that you talked about, it's going to be Yankees and
Orioles for these next couple of days. Phillies and Yankee
series that was scheduled to be going on this week,
as you mentioned, will be rescheduled at a later date.
But that's where we are in Major League Baseball, who
also said one more thing in their statement when they
released it today that as of Friday, in the sixty
four hundred tests that have been conducted since Friday, that is,

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there have been no new positive on field personnel test
for any of the other twenty on clubs. So that's
um from Major League Baseball on their statement they released
just after the top of the LP and and and
then and listen, you feel free and anybody can feel
free eight seven seven nine nine Fox to to disagree
with me. Okay, My point that I have made and
has been construed and misconstrued by some is I believe

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all of these guys but a college sports, professional sports,
they're all better off playing their sport. And and here's
the here's the logic, y Dan, you tell me if
you disagree, it's you're okay to um. You're not going
to get that amount of testing anywhere else. You're also
one performing a physical activity, which any doctors is going
to tell you is the best way to fight this

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thing off is you know to to content where you're
at home. You're at home, you're not monitored by a physician,
you're not keeping you're not you don't have to keep
yourself in and short and in shape. And when you're
at home, you're not necessarily you can self quarantine. But
the likelihood of you self quarantine at this point in time,
in the middle of the summer, when nobody else is
self quarantining, is is remote. So I just like, what

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are the if If the idea in mind is you're
putting all these guys at risk, I actually think you're
at more risk staying home and shutting down the sport
you're occupied as well by your profession right mental and
mental health. I think you know it adds to what
I also and I'll just add this, dug. I know
that there's a lot of different varying opinions on this.

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I do think this at least gives the other teams
and maybe even other leagues on Okay, now, how do
you handle this? You know it's gonna it's because it's
gonna happen in college sports. We've we've asked that questions
gonna happen in professional sports. What happens in the NBA bubble? Like,
how do you make sure that honestly you love Lebron Joannice,
Anthony Davis, these guys, you know, Kauai, Leonard, they matter?

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How do you continue to protect these guys, test these guys,
make sure that nobody else violates the protocol so you
have the best likelihood of success. And just like we
find out, if you're not feeling well, don't go to work,
right right, don't don't go to work? Of course, dan By,
are you here? From him? Half past the hour? Mike
Sando upcoming. I'll wait till you hear his tears of
quarterbacks not t E A R S. No, no tears

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t E I R S tiers of quarterbacks as voted
on by NFL personnel. But coming up next, what's happened
in New England? Cam Newton's gonna show up with his
first meeting and no one's going to be there? Why
the mass exodust? Is this a master plan from the mastermind?
We'll discuss text. Be sure to catch the live edition

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of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio. Ah app Let's get to Mike Sando, who
joins us covering the athletic um. Do people know uh
the Three Stooges references anymore? Does feel like our childhood
on Saturday's You'd watch it in black and white and
nobody watches the Old Little Rascals, nor do they watch

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Three Stooges. I know the Stooges. I can tell you
all about him. I just I think I'm wondering about
our kids. I'm worried about the kids. Mike. Uh, Mike,
everybody's talking about your your your your work. For people
who don't know the science behind it. How do you
put together your your quarterback tears? Yeah, for seven years
I've been asking upwards the fifty coaches and execut around

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the league to help me RAI all the quarterbacks. And
it really started with me asking them how do we
differentiate between them? How do we know who to give
credit for really doing the best work. And so it
really came into this tier system where Tier one is
the best, Tier five is the worst, and it's the
closer you are to Tier one, the less help and

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support you need from your team to succeeds. So if
you're in the middle, like a tier three quarterback has
sort of been Andy Dalton, right, I mean, he's a
good starter if they have a good defense and everything
is stacked around him. In two, he like a pro
bowler and they'll go to the playoffs, might not win
at all, but when things fall off around him, it

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can look ugly. And so the guys really in Tier
one this year, Mahomes, Wilson, Rogers, Brees, Watson have and
so excellent over the years, probably you know, won a
lot of games when their defense wasn't great, they didn't
have a great running game. Always to rely on. That's
what really differentiates the guys in the top. Yeah, and
I would point out that I think the one that
would be surprising to some is that Aaron Rodgers is

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still on that list. Where was he on that list? Yeah,
Aaron Rodgers was third, He was behind Mahomes and Wilson
were unanimous. They got all fifty votes in the Tier one.
Rogers got forty six and fifty. And I think that's
because I don't think his skill set has fallen off.
I mean, I think he's still as spectacular as ever

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with some of the plays that he makes. The production
of the offense hasn't been as good, and so to
go and make case that he is, it's really easy
to do. The coaches who prepare say no, no, no,
hold on, they have done a terrible of keeping up
what's him? And well he made bear some responsibility is

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disproportionately and other factors. And we still fear him when
we play him because of the things he can do
that other quarterbacks can't do. Mike Sando joining us in
the Doug Gottlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Look,
I I agree with because the NFL people I talked
to say the exact same thing. It just is interesting
how some of the narrative have shifted and people will

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would say that that he's he's slipped. Um. Okay, second
tier consists of who second tier starts. With Tom Brady,
he'd always been tier one. He slipped into the two.
Then we got Lamar Jackson who came way up in
one year, Brothsburger, Stafford, Ryan Wentz, Prescott, and then Rivers
really plummeted. But he held on it just the bottom
of the second tier, and he'll go one way at

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the head of this year, depending how he plays. Yeah,
I mean, I mean that's a lot of its reputation
wise and and and earned through the years where you're like,
well maybe it was the offensive line, it was him,
but his play was was subpar. Um. There's there's the
players list of the top hundred and Carson Wentz isn't
on it. He is in your easier what six rated quarterback? No,

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he I think he came in at about eleven or twelve.
He's in the middle of the second tier. He did
come in one spot ahead of Prescott. He's eleven. So um.
People love the skill set. I think there it almost
feels like people are itching to push him up even higher,
but he just hasn't been on the field. And to me,
if you look at his seasons, they went thirteen and

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three one year, they were a top five defense. You know,
they had a lot of great stuff around him, I
think as it's fallen off around him, Yeah, they've kind
of held into that nine and seven. Maybe they were
seven and nine one year, But I don't know if
he's completely elevated him. You know, it's interesting yet Roethlisberger
is sitting there at third on the tier two right
with eighth overall. Yet two years ago through five thousand

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yards last year he had Tommy John surgery. There's really
no this is this is kind of shot in the dark, right,
We don't We have no idea what Big Ben will
look like. Absolutely, yeah, I think his reputation helps him
not just plummet through the floor. But I have questions.
I feel like he can really go either way. We don't.
The weapons aren't what they used to be. He's thirty eight,
and I think when you think of the older quarterbacks,

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I picture like Drew Brees is probably on a treadmill
today and he's probably eating food out of little containers
that are measured all day. I think Tom Brady is
probably having somebody work on his forearm right now, you
know what I mean. These guys are obsessed seven, whereas Roethlisberger,
you know, doesn't have that look, right, I mean I
think he you don't feel like for sure that he's

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doing all those things got those guys are doing maniacally.
Maybe he is and maybe he'll be great, but we'll see.
Why do you think Donald's so far down on Tier three? Well,
he just hasn't done anything yet, you know, I think
that what he got two votes in Tier two, thirty
seven and Tier three and eleven and tier four. I
don't think those eleven and Tier four are saying we
think he's terrible. I mean, he's just a sort of

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situation this last year where you know, it's a bad
game he start the year probably just reserve judgment and
let's or especially if it's random, becomes even happy. It's
not that Doug Gottli show here on Fox Sports Radio.
That's voice of Mike Sando from The Athletic. I want
to take you away from this article and get your

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reaction to the news of the NFL day, which is
now we have what four Patriots who have opted out?
You have other players, talented players who have opted out,
but Dante Hi Tower and Patrick Chung opting out of
playing for the Patriot. Why do you think there's such
a reaction from an organization that's been so successful so often?
It's odd that they would all be accumulated there. And

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I wonder if we're just gonna see this, you know,
spread across the number of teams. I would think that
we could. The decision doesn't have to be made at
this moment, but you do wonder if, Okay, you've got
teams that have enjoyed a lot of success. These guys
have rings, so they're not chasing that one ring. There's
guys who and it's made some money, right, They've got
some money in the bank, and now you're gonna come back,

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which is probably a little bit of a retooling year.
You don't have Tom Brady, and I would say Belichick
probably you know, runs an old school camp where you're
running the laps. It's probably a hard situation. So maybe
all you put all those things together and it's not
a bad time to just regroup and take care of yourself.
I think a lot of players attempted to do it,
but maybe more are willing to do it, they're and

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able to do it. Um, yeah, I mean, I guess
that's that's the next question. When you talk to so
many people in NFL front offices, what is the sense
I mean, you know, in terms of the level of
the quality, the level of play, what we're going to have,
because you know, it's one thing for a guy who's
on a non guaranteed deal to opt out and take
a quick paycheck. It's a whole other thing when a

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guy is gonna make eight million dollars and has a
new new born at home saying I'm I'm not going
to do it. What a play people in the league thing.
I think there's always been a feeling around the league
that starting the change that hey, you know what, when
guys have to show up for the money, they'll be there.
And I think seen in recent years some players retired
age twenty five or just decide they're not going to
do it, and that's different. It feels different than it

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was in the past. So there's a little bit of
wariness and unknown right. I mean, we've definitely seen players
be more of their own guys in the NFL. Uh, certainly,
it's happened on the social justice front. We've seen players
speak out in ways they have it in the past,
So I think we're waiting to see. I think every
team is gonna be different and and some guys there's
gonna be even more than I would have thought would

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opt out. What do you think of of that the
NFL can learn from what has happened with Major League
Baseball in the Marlins, Um, I think it's a different
situation because they're not playing games every day. I think
the NFL already hasn't built in. Maybe they learned this
and they planned for this. They built it in to

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sort of have those second and third weeks of the
season be ones that teams may not play games, and
I think Goodell has been selective in his language. I
think Mike Floria pointed this out. Well. He hasn't promised
they're gonna play us to team game season. He said
they'll have a they'll finish the season, they'll we'll play
in the super Bowl. So what form that takes, um,
I think we could have an unequal number of games
for teams and they may have to make decisions week

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to week. At what you learn from that is this
could happen to any team. There's gonna be teams in
the NFL that have an outbreak. Yeah. I think the
big question is will to be people of the Super Bowl? Right?
If we ever, who ever ever thought like in Tampa
there could be no people at a super Bowl. Yeah.
And so I guess that gets back to how soon
before we have the vaccine? Right? People said, well, it

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won't be till the end of the year, Well, the
Super bowls and you know, February and could be moved.
I suppose could be moved. I don't know where they
are on that, but hopefully we would be in a
situation to be able to do it then. And what
a nice celebration that would be on the back side
of this that people can just weather it. Yeah, now
it's it's it's really interesting. Um. Last thing, going back
to your your tears, Mike Sando joining us. It's the
article everybody's talking about. He pulls fifty uh front office

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coaches personnel in the Nation Football League and says, hey,
give us your tear. Years of quarterback and Mahomes, Wilson, Rodgers,
Brees Watson in that first tier, Brady Lamar Jackson, Ben's
Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan, Carson, Wentz, Stack Prescott,
and Philip Rivers in Tier two. You can go and
read this online at the Athletic or just google Mike Sandy.
Everybody's talking about it. Um, how much shoot the messenger?

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Do you get? Right? Like? All you do is you
put together, you send out the question here, they send
it back to you. How much do you get you're
the bad guy? You know less and less. I think
there's some that just need to be explained, Like you know,
like this year, I think it's a fair thing to
say Lamar Jackson's the MVP of the league and he's
in Tier two, and then you explain, Okay, tier one,
we've got this pier past component in it. When you're

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behind in the Super Bowl three and there's no run
game and play action, can you throw yourself back into it?
When Mahomes is down by double digits six times last
year they go five and one, that's a hard thing
to do. So most of those guys in the top tier,
even Watson was down sixteen nothing in the playoffs. Can
you carry it when the utter components aren't there? So
I ask you explain it. I think people will get it.

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They don't always like it, but I think I get
less of it. I think most people look at it
and go, you know what. There's a few guys that
move around, but it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I would.
Actually I would the Drew Brees one being in Tier
one would be the one. I think it's a little
on reputation, but I do understand he's been able so
many times to bring a team back and that that's
that passing component that Lamar has not as yet to show,
especially in the playoffs. My great stuff, awesome article as

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well done. Thanks so much for joining us. All right,
that's Mike Sando joining us from the Athletic Buyer. What
do you what's your reaction to what's what's the guy
who is most overrated, most underrated in your mind at
the quarterback position? Oh jeez, you know, the Lamar Jackson
thing is funny because I just did a fantasy thing
on it, and I just have a tough time thinking

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that those numbers are going to be matched and um, so,
like you know, when it comes to matching that sort
of thing, that's uh, you know, I question that. So
then I wonder all right, are you allowed to be
in that? You know, I know he wasn't in the
top tier, but in that in that tier, yes, I mean,
here's the here's the here's the best example I can
give of it. Um, we both agree that Pat Mahomes

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is the best quarterback in the football right now? That
me too. Okay. Did he have a better year statistically
this year than last year? Uh no? No? And now
part of it was he was hurt, okay, But part
of it is like they're gonna figure out some and
they're gonna try and you know, make you run the
football and not let Pat Mahomes you know, throw the
football a bunch of times. It stands to reason that

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it's really, really, really hard to replicate these m v
P seasons. Now, can we say that, Lamar is their
system is so unique and you haven't had really a
true offseason to figure things out and put things together
on the field. Yes, so it may help him, but
it's very reasonable to think that those numbers will go
down because generally when numbers spiked the next year, they
do go down. I I and I think that even

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though he's off of his m v P season, You know,
when Matt Ryan was an m v P where we
willing to immediately push him to the top tier. I
don't think we are. I think we still probably had
Rodgers in that top spot and there the three in
the super Bowl, yeah in that Yeah, Brady in that spot,
Breeze in that spot. But I don't think we were
that quick to rush to to put Matt Ryan there.
So no. But but like I mean, I think part

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of it is he was so spectacular last year, um,
and it just such a stark contrast to Flacco, and
then when when he took over the year before and
they made the playoffs. I think that's a little bit
of it. Look, I think Ben Roethlisberger's reach at eight
or in tier two, no one knows, like he almost
had to move him to the side. Nobody knows what
Ben Roethlisberger has left. Um. I think Philip Rivers being

(28:34):
tier two like that is hanging on based upon reputation.
It is interesting that Jimmy g is behind Golf, behind Kyler,
behind Kirk Cousins and again had a lead in the
Super Bowl, and the players really like Jimmy G. He's uh,
he's in the top hunter. You know, you match number
like Cousins. Accuracy is fine. It's you know, as you said,
they're judged on wins. You know, that's what you're you know,

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looking forward with a quarterback. Um. You know, golf is
is accomplished. Uh more, So I don't have a problem
with that. Kyler Murray's upside maybe more. But you know,
was it surpassing? I don't know. You know, I guess
if you had to take each of the season's maybe
you'd take Kyler's. But I love it. Be sure to
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(29:19):
at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. This is game
Tire on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Representative buyer of Virginia. Yes, Doug,
the game today is alright, Doug. Five scenarios to rank.

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Let's let's start out this way. This could have gone
a lot of different ways after Sunday. Um, it's going
different ways as we are here today. Ranked the three
things that have stood out the most so far in
Major League Baseball season. Number three is UM. I would

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have thought that baseball was the least likely, the least
likely to have UM. What is it? What is it called?
What is an outbreak. Okay, that would have been my
if you say, like, which which game give you space?
Guys out? Can they go? Can they sit apart? There's
nobody in that stands like baseball piece of cake. It's

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only the ball and then but they throw the ball
out all the time. Anyway, that's number three. Um uh
number two. Uh, let's see here. Number two is um,
how like injuries have already I've already said it justin

(30:41):
verlanderd just for one, have already set in. And I
don't know how much of that is training and how
much that is just that's baseball, but how much injuries
are going to be a factor in this year? And
the number one thing that set out is like I
don't really notice games I watched on TV for the
most part. The fans aren't there. Gotta be honest, you Now,
it's regular season baseball, and I've watched in a couple

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of parks which traditionally aren't all that all that full.
But I still enjoy the game a great deal. All Right.
The scrimmages wrap up today in Orlando. Things will start
getting uh real or four reel. On Thursday, Doug ranked
the three biggest storylines is the NBA resumes their season
on Thursday. Um, will all the Clippers be in attendance

(31:24):
for their their regular season or their postseason games? Right?
Like no mantres harrold Um. We know about Lou Williams.
Somebody else's Beverley as well. Like, like, the whole thing
with the Clippers was the cohesion because their their lineups
were constantly being juggled previously. They haven't gotten that cohesion

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because they haven't had everybody in the bubble. So Clippers.
Number two is gonna be the Bucks. You know, there's
a lot of pressure on the Bucks to just get
to the finals so that Janis will sign that uh,
that gigantic deal. And number one is the Lakers in general,
the Lakers, you know, there are other things, you Ben
Simmons making jump shots. Who else out of the East

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can be competitive? What do the Rockets look like? Blah
blah blah blah blah. But to me, those are the
top three. This one, no, no, I think that's that's
fair enough. The the the Lakers, I think still number one.
Even when you're watching the scrimmages. You know, and now
a d S got the I issue, not that it's
necessarily going to matter. But I do think that the

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Laker games with their new additions as well j R. Smith,
they have they've grabbed the headlines when it came to
the scrimmage. So no, no surprise their number one. Doug Rank.
Who you think will occupy the top three spots in
the NFL Network's top one hundred players? Mm hmm. Aaron
Donald will be one, Pat Mahomes will be one. Pat

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Mahomes probably number one, Aaron Donald will probably be number two. Man.
You know, I look at math Mike, Mike, Mike Thomas, Thomas,
Stefan Gilmore, Christian McCaffrey Gilmore or Christian m Christian McCaffrey
or Mike Thomas will be the skill position. Guy? Those

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are those are? Those are the three? What do you think?
Have you had to do? Three? Hood? I think Gilmore
will be top three? Um, I you know, I think
was Donald was number one last year and that's tough
to to hold on. I'll say, I think it's gonna
be Donald, Gilmore and Lamar Jackson. Jackson, Yeah, because it's
just from last season, that's from from what it was.

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But that's what I think it's going with themes. Yeah, yeah,
I think there's a recency bias to the Super Bowl.
Sure could could be, uh, Doug rank the training camp
trips that you're gonna miss the most in the National
Football League, you know, usually around this time would be like,
all right, going over to Oxnard, heading down to Irvine,
going over to uh, you know, the Chargers camp. What
are you gonna miss with no uh no training camp attendants. Wow,

(33:58):
that's a good question. I mean, the Cowboys is the
biggest of the camps, right, It's the closest for you,
the furthest trip for me. But it does feel like
the most important. I don't know it. Yeah, there's always stories.
There's always stories. It's always interesting. Um So three would
be Chargers, partly because I can yeah, Yeah, Two would

(34:22):
be Rams. I do love going to u C I
and McVeigh is awesome to talk to you don't off air.
And one would be Cowboys, not because there's that much
personal interaction, just because it feels bigger than the Yeah,
and the Chargers would always leave us like they would
have a morning practice and then it's just us for
three hours, the final two hours just hanging out at
the park. Alright, Dougs had some bad WiFi issues to

(34:45):
rank your three favorite wing flavors. That will wrap it
up with that you're ordering wings. One of the three
favorite flavors you're gonna order uh okay, lemon pepper, three,
salton vinegar too, and uh garlic palm. But specifically, like
I said from from Sliders in Plainville, Connecticut, would be

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number one. What are yours? Um? Barbecue one, a buffalo,
two in a KARAOKEI three? How spicy the buffalo like? Um?
I like a medium. I can't do a hot extra medium,
you know, just yeah, and there's I'll even take the
wings from across the street, have him in a honey
barbecue and dip them in medium, so you get best
of both, best of both worlds, a little heat in

(35:30):
your meat. Absolutely, this is game time on the Duck
Gottli Show Roost what's your what's your favorite wing flavors?
I love honey mustard. I like a mild buffalo And
I said ranch, But I think that's a flavor that's
what you dip them up music. What about you? I

(35:52):
will go with spicy garlic number three, uh, garlic parmesan
number two and a good old fashioned spicy buffalo number one.
So he likes it spicy, and he likes his garlic. Right,
But you do like the buffalo flavor. I used to
hate buffalo. I used to hate the buffalo flavor anchor bar,

(36:12):
by the way, it's supposedly where it's invented. I've had
the buffalo wings. They're They're quite delicious. Okay. Do you
like the winglets of the drumlets? I like wings? What
about you buyer? I can eat them all. That wasn't
really the choice. I'm a winglet guy. I've been defending
him for the past couple of seasons. Who is he?
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and you and you. Mm hmmmm mmm mmm um. I
feel like I'm like the last defender of Aaron Rodgers.
Do you ever feel that way? Well, you know, he's
not He's not the greatest thing ever anymore. And I
was like whoa Okay, I mean, I don't know. I

(37:19):
try and talk to my NFL guys and they're like, yeah,
he's awesome, you know. And and part of when you're
really good and your company isn't always the best run,
or your company goes through a change and you're still
really good and you're trying to figure out kind of
your role within it. I understand why Aaron Rodgers at times,

(37:43):
his his attitude or his persona may have have slipped
and get it all right, But the dude is thrown
what is its six interceptions the last two seasons? Six
The number one factor, number one factor and who wins
and loses a football game is turnovers, right, And if

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your quarterback who can make every throw turns the ball
over very little, and he can in fact make every throw,
that gives you a better chance to win. Now we
could go back and say, all right, two years ago
he only had two interceptions, but their offense was an
abject disaster. That's why the coach got fired. Also fair

(38:27):
they won thirteen games this year. He bailed them out
several times. A coach that was really in experience, probably
in over his head, an offense that he doesn't fit
in it. But if I'm gonna play this Sunday and
I need a quarterback, you tell me who in this
league outside of Pat Mahomes you'd you'd rather have outside

(38:52):
of Pat my Homes. I'm like, all right, you want
you want Pat Mahomes. Now that the thing about Mahomes
is he hasn't seen as much as Aaron Rodgers has,
so there's still a kind of gun slinger, a little
bit of Brett Favre recklessness to Mahomes. But and and
if you were to give Aaron Rodgers Pat Mahomes coaching staff,

(39:12):
Pat Mahomes personnel, I'll go with that offense bag. You
give him tyreek Hill, you give him Travis Kelsey, you
give him Sammy Watkins, you give him the laundry list
of of running backs that they have. How good is
the Kancity chiefs off Andy Reid is his coach. I
think that works. You're right, So apparently I'm not alone.

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We had Mike Sando on Last Hour. Mike is the
author of this piece where he sends out basically a question,
a quarterback questionnaire, two fifty NFL personnel coaches whatever. He
got forty six Tier one votes and uh, four Tier
two votes. He's the third ranked quarterback on his list

(40:00):
from what after Pat Mahomes and h Russell Wilson were
unanimous and by the way Russell Wilson and I would,
I would say that I thought Aaron Rodgers outplayed Russell
Wilson the playoffs that my memory. Greg. Let me ask
our residents Seattle Seahawk fan Dan Buyer in regards Dan Um,

(40:21):
I don't remember the the Aaron Rodgers performance really, but
I do know that there was uh, I'm a league
turner drop that really uh, you know, did not make
Russell Wilson's comeback possible, but they were they were in
a hole, and I felt like Aaron Rodgers their game
plan was really conservative after they had a lead. Um,

(40:42):
is there a discernible difference between the two, And I
think Russell Wilson's great, right, Like, these guys can both
be great. If you say Russell Wilson's better, I would
pick Aaron Rodgers, But Russell Wilson is a magician too,
So I'm not like offended. Do you think there's that
discernible difference between the two. Well, I just if you're
entering and I would take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers
of age um yeah, and just of what he's um

(41:06):
been able to do. It's just he's at a different
point in his career than Rogers is so and and
by the way, you know, helps to have a running game.
Just ask Russell Wilson, you know so. So Aaron Rodger's
numbers maybe down a bit because he had Aaron Jones.
But but I mean, look at how much better Russell
Wilson was last year and Chris Carson was rolling. They
lost all three of their top three running back before
the playoffs. Had sorry Marshall Lynch off the street right.

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Russell Wilson's best three seasons with passer rating occurred in
the seasons where the Seahawks were in top five in
rushing in the National Football League. There you go, there
you go. This is from one defensive coach with NFC
North experience. I know some people don't like him because
of whatever, but all I know is if you pick
five quarterbacks you don't want to play every week, He's
one of them. I don't want to f with that guy.

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You can say what you want, but when you get
into the game, that that is the first guy you're
preparing for it. Ain't the running back and ain't the
receiver because he has a free agent running back, a
third round receiver, fourth round receiver. Just dudes, no tight end.
You're worried about that? Dude, I've another guy says I
faced him so many times. He's the same guy. The
weapons around him have really fallen off before they had

(42:14):
a mix of young and veteran guys when they lost
to Michael Finley and Greg Jennings, James Jones, Randall Cob
Jordy Nelson. What they try to do is patch it.
Davante Adams is a good wide receiver. To me, I
would not I would not say he's the number one
guy they tried to plug in. Jimmy Graham a stopcap.
Aaron Rodgers in a bunch of dudes won thirteen games
last year. Alright, I ask yourself this, if Aaron Jones

(42:37):
is on the free agent market, how valuables he? And
I think Davonta Adams pretty MN good um and the
red zone numbers did fall off. But part of Davanta
Adams as he's a creation of Aaron Rodgers. So the
question becomes, why have people soured on him? Why is
the and I would say that some of it is

(42:58):
body language, right, some of it is perception, and he's
perceived as a guy who ran Mike McCarthy out of town.
How how how realistic that is? I don't know. Some
of it is his age, and I'm sure his skill
set on on a on a level has diminished some
So's Brady's and Soo's brees and they don't seem to

(43:19):
be critiqued at that same level that we do of Rogers.
It's a it's a really really interesting case study. How
many people have said Aaron Rodgers has fallen off? Aaron
Rodgers not the same guy. Look, even the guys at
Madden ranked him to give one rating, which I don't

(43:40):
know what that means. I just know that the best,
and that's Pat Mahomes is And if there's a six
point gap between Pat Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers, I must not.
I don't know what I'm talking about. Because we're also
told that that though Aaron Rodgers has incredible arm strength,

(44:00):
quick release, deadly accuracy, right, that some of his skills
have diminished because of age. But have they The number
one skill like arm strength is and he's got great
arm strength, armscred is like fifth on the most important
skills list, and yet we're taken away from him. Is
it possible he's a bad fit for a system and

(44:23):
where he's not well supported in terms of overall talent,
and he's still finding a way to make it work,
which actually makes me think more of him, not less
of him. Right, everybody, including Aaron Rodgers, freaked out because
they didn't take a wide receiver, so they have weapons
or they need a wide receiver. If everyone seems to
know they need wide receiving help and they didn't take
a wide receiver, well then why then are we saying

(44:46):
that Aaron rodgers skills have diminished when clearly he doesn't
have guys running open nearly the way he used to.
I got, I got. People tell me Brady hasn't fallen
off a cliff. It's the weapons around him that Drew
Brees doesn't fall off late in the year. Uh, it's
the he's playing against better defenses. But Aaron Rodgers has
fallen off when he wins thirteen games, gets to ANFC
championship game and they get demolished by just a better

(45:06):
football team because it can't stop the run. So I
don't see it. I don't get it. I don't really
understand it. But I'm trying to trying to figure out
the Aaron Rodgers. I don't want to say hate. I
hate the Hortelge haters. They got a bunch of haters

(45:28):
out there, like I don't. But if there's a guy
who has haters in the NFL, I'd say Aaron Rodgers
is one of them, considering how accomplished he is. Good
to know that others in the NFL. Because this pole
that Mike Sando has is of fifty people. Fifty people
who are in NFL front offices, coaching staffs, whatever, like

(45:52):
the people that actually matter, the people that prepare game plans,
the people that draft, the people that select free agents.
They all say the same thing. Dude, I don't know.
You may think he's falling off, but I'm not gonna
be the by guy that that that thinks he's falling off.
Go ahead, drop a game plan. Tell me when you're
getting ready for the Packers what that thing looks like.

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Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
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whap This from Bloomberg. Under Armour Inc. Set a pair
of top executives, including founder Kevin Plank, have been named
in the federal probe of the company's accounting, sending shares

(46:34):
of the athletic wearmaker down. Plank and CFO David Bergman
received a wells notice informing them the US Securities and
Exchange Commission is likely to allege certain violation of federal
securities laws. Under Armer said Monday that regulatory filing UH,
they received a notice informing him the agency may file
enforcement action against the company. Wow, their sales are down, Uh,

(47:00):
stock is I believe? I believe below ten dollars? I mean, wow,
that's a wow. This this does happen quite a lot.
But you know, it reminds me a little bit. There's
a little bit of l A Gear to it, although
l A Gear was never as popular as under Armour was. Man,

(47:24):
what do you think? What do you think the peak
was for under Armour's stock this year alone? This year?
I believe it was twenty one dollars one at its
peak in two thousand fifteen. It was like trading at
fifty Was this ford? If forty need forty nine. Wow,

(47:48):
peaked at fort six. It's now at nine dollars and change.
Would that be a bar to you? Uh No, I would.
I mean they're under they're under se see investigation. Kevin
Plank has been forced to leave the company. Um, there's retail.
I mean part of it is like when you're tied
to retail sales, you're gonna be down because nobody's shopping now,

(48:09):
everybody's doing things online. There's also no you know that.
What was really smart about under Armour was they got
in on the youth market, right, the youth market and
your kids. They don't know any better at the time,
and they had they signed great athletes Steph Curry, Cam Newton. Um.
They did a great job though of protect this house

(48:30):
all the football gear or whatever they were. The problem
is there's no use sports, right, there's no use sports.
They could never really figure out the shoes Steph Curry
has his new issues are actually pretty cool and apparently
pretty I've never worn him pretty comfortable, but it took
them soul. They're just it just took him so long

(48:53):
to get up to speed with the shoes. They could
never figure it out. Yes, Ryan, not that you're like
some real business expert. But is shoes the most important
part of those apparel companies? Because I don't know Nike.
I know the shirts and everything are awesome, but it
does feel like shoes is the most important thing. Well, look,

(49:15):
Nike is so big, you know, they have the air technology.
People forget that. Nike also Nike owns Converse, and I
think they owned Reebok as well now as as well.
And Reebok bought a Via. Do you guys remember a
villas Via was It was actually a company from close
to my hometown and they had some sort of some

(49:37):
sort of hell technology that that's why they got bought
up by Reebok. And then when Nike bought Reebok, that's
why they bought Rebuke. I think that's what happened. Um
oh sorry, Rebox is my bad. So Reebok bought a Villa,
Adidas bought right, Okay, there we go, my bad. Nike
owns Converse, I know that much. But Nike also, you know,

(49:57):
like Nike is there they they I think under Armor
motivated them with some of their dry fits stuff and
some of this that tight fitting, you know, stretchy undershirt
under it was under armour was it was the gear
that you wore underneath your football here. That's how they
got their start, and it was cool, made you look strong.

(50:18):
And of course Nike cop followed suit. Everybody else kind
of followed suit. Uh stances in bad shape as well.
Part of that is, you know, they they dominated the
sock market and then they bought the rights to the
NBA socks and I think it was just too much.
And then of course in the retail space, only Nike survives.

(50:42):
But that's big news. Um, We're we're talking a lot
about these top hundred players voted by the players. Carson
Wentz is not in the top hundred list as voted
on by the players now and Mike Sandos list sand
of course joined us from the Athletic You miss that
download the podcast. Um. He was eleventh overall Tier two

(51:05):
quarterback one GM said, I really liked the guy. When
he plays, he can be a one. But injuries and
the fact that they did not need him to win
a super against the Patriots and they won with a
guy I who I think is a four makes it
tough to push him higher. People say he's elite, and
at times he may be, but he's inconsistent that I
think that's fair analysis of Carson Wentz been hurt a
lot in a little bit in consistent. They didn't have

(51:27):
a lot of players last year. Hard to hard exactly
to tell if he's great or just really really good.
But when he plays, he appears to be really really
good and close to great. I think that's fair. The
player thing, it kind of feels like a joke. I
I would say the player thing has a lot to
do with how much he gets paid and the fact
that when he got paid, he wasn't great last year.

(51:50):
Going back to last year, you know, not this previous
year year before he had gotten paid, they won a
Super Bowl and he struggled coming off in a c
L and then he got this massive tract and he
was just okay, you know, he's still trying to shake
the Foals thing. Like I actually think that when Foals
went away and then Folds got beat out in Jack'sville,

(52:12):
now traded to a reasonable person should be like, Folds
isn't that good? But that actually somehow has hurt Carson
went She's like, wait, Foles was as good or better
in that system, and Fowls is now potentially a backup
in Chicago. That doesn't make any sense. Um, But I'm
a I'm a Wenz believer. I think Wentz is much

(52:32):
better than he's listed. I don't think he's eleventh overall.
Like I was putting together my list, I would have
my homes won. I would have Aaron Rodgers too, I
would have Russell Wilson three. But Carson Wentz is in
that group of the next guys. A matter of fact,
I like him a lot better than like Drew Brees
going into this year. I don't think that's unreasonable. You know,
you put him indoors with Mike Thomas and with you know, um,

(52:55):
with Alvin Kamara, with one of the eight offensive play
calling head coaches of all time, and Sean Payton. M
So it's it's always interesting though on the Nick Foles
won the Super Bowl thing, right, Nick Foles was bad
when he first when he was first starter, he was bad.
And by the way, they lucked out not having to

(53:17):
play the New Orleans Saints, they played the Minnesota Vikings,
who wanted a miracle. If you remember, the Vikings were
quarterbacked by Case Keenum in the NFC Championship game, that's
who he had to beat. Case Keenum and he just
got completely outclassed by a really good defense in Philadelphia.
Then they get the Super Bowl and that was the
year that not only was the Patriots defense trash, but

(53:39):
they didn't play Malcolm Butler and Super Bowl and yes,
it's fair to say that they won the Super Bowl.
The Patriots also amassed more yards mass more yards then
the Eagles. Eagles never punted. That was more on the
Patriots than anybody. But like, if you want to tell
me the Folds is really good, nothing he has done
outside those last two games of you know, the the

(54:02):
NFC Championship game in the Super Bowl, that would lead
you believe he can be consistent. Wentz just took a
team of dudes off the street to the playoffs, beat
the Dallas Cowboys and a must win game, the team
that everyone says is so good and so talented. Oh yeah,
by the way, Carson Wentz was gonna be the m
v P of the league that year that he got hurt.

(54:22):
So I agree with Sando and the the NFL guys
more so than I I disagree with the players. And
I would say the players thing like Josh Allen is
on the top hundred list and Carson Wentz isn't come on,
and I'm not hating on Joe. I actually like Josh
Allen because he knows a little bit of who he is,
but he is not Carson Wentz. Be sure to catch

(54:43):
the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter noon Pacific. Chris manno star guest,
of course, he writes four Sports Illustrated. He is in
the bubble. How do I know? I listen to his
podcast in the bubble? Uh, now that you survived, what
was quarantine like for for people who didn't listen your
pot um? You know, look it it wasn't shawshank, but

(55:04):
it you know, three meals a day, bind closed doors
for seven straight days. Okay, it got monotonous after a while,
but uh, you know it was. The funny thing was
when as soon as quarantine ends, you have that like
fifteen minutes of of sense of feeling your freedom, but
then you realize it's ninety five outside with eighty eight

(55:26):
degree eight level humidity and you run right back into
your room. Yes, yes, well there's swamp booty is a problem,
especially when you're a place that used to be used
to be used to be a swamp. Did you how
did you how did you stay active? Like? Did you
video game? It? Did you Netflix? What? Did you do
a lot of Netflix? But you I mean, look you

(55:46):
you spend most of your time on the phone anyway. Uh,
you know, trying to to set up things with teams
and players and and whatnot, kind of getting ready. So
when you get out of the bubble, you got out
of the quarantine, you can hit the ground running. So
but the time moved pretty fast, you know, being being
in there, and what the amount of work he got
done and when you did get bored, I mean it's
like again, it's not jail. You got a flat screen

(56:07):
and in our access you can survive. Doug Galla show
here on Fox Fox Sports Trader Chris mannox NBA insider
for Sports Illustrated from Inside the Bubble joins us, what's
the real reaction to Lou Williams and uh and the
Magic City stop? Well, I mean I don't think any
like too many people are siding with Lou Williams here,

(56:28):
um from what I was told as recently as yesterday.
You know, even the Union you know, wasn't thrilled with
you know, Lou William's decision there. And look it it's
just even if you believe his version of the story,
and there's no reason to believe, to not believe that
a guy doesn't like the wings and want to get
something from every the guy does have a flavor named

(56:49):
after him. You know, every player of the bubble would
want to do that. I mean, every player in the
bubble would want to get out. You could cost you
the whole league this season. That that's that's I mean,
it's just there's no there's not a lot of of sympathy.
I've heard some some talking heads and next players express
sympathy for him, but inside here it doesn't exist. I mean,
there's you know, these guys are all I mean, even

(57:10):
though they've been only been here about three weeks, they're
all getting antsy. You know, they all would have loved
to have to have a night out. So you know,
Lou Williams doing that, he's not gonna get any sympathetic
ears inside this bubble. And look, he's he's getting a
maximum punishment here, a pretty strong one. I mean, ten
days in quarantine is a significant, you know penalty for
all this. And look, and I wrote this a little
bit today. You know, he's not gonna come out of

(57:32):
quarantine and game shape and soft tissue injuries are a
real thing, uh, in this kind of restarted season. So
even though he's officially gonna miss the first two games,
he might miss three or four and when he comes back,
he might be limited in a way. And that doesn't
that's not good for the Clippers, who already have been
ravaged by injury and illness throughout the last couple of weeks. Yeah,
the Clippers are weird that, Like I would have thought

(57:52):
that this could be the best thing for him. Is
a team that hadn't gotten a chance to play together,
a ton get a chance to play together. Uh, that
didn't happen because you know Mantraz Harald's gone, and who
else Lou obviously Lou Williams being gone. Uh, somebody else's
got Patrick Beverly's gone as well. When zoo Bach just in,
zoo Bach just came back like he has been, you know,

(58:12):
a wall up until the last couple of days. Uh,
and he's obviously, I mean before he came back, we
were looking at Joe kim No, who hasn't played since
a season ago, as the teams starting center. In these scrimmages,
so they look the Clippers are a talented team, but
you know, they're testing the theory that you know, regular
season games don't matter. You know, the first round doesn't matter,
and they can just flip a switch and get to

(58:33):
where they want to be in the playoffs because they
they're gonna have some ups and downs. I think early
on Doug Gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio, that's
the voice of Chris Mannix. Mannix, what are the games
like in person? You know there it's almost like watching
a I wouldn't say a summer league game, because even
in Summer League there's a crowd, but I like it

(58:53):
almost being let into the USA Basketball practices because it's
a high level of play and USA Basketball he's been experience,
has let you witness some of their scrimmages at the end.
So it's it's a lot like that. Um, you know
the that the NBA has allowed teams to kind of
pipe in the music they'd uh that usually play at

(59:15):
their own arena, so you know right before tip off
as a music that I hear a lot in Boston. Uh,
the Spurs have their songs a lot of people can
recognize before the start of their games, so there's a
there's an attempt to create a familiarity with the music.
During each possession, there's music playing that they're often is
in NBA games. But one thing I've and talking to

(59:36):
players that is still an adjustment is you know, aiming
for jump shots, are are setting up for jump shots
and seeing that big you know, neon scoreboard or a
board in the background. I mean, that's a number of
players have said that's been an adjustment for their line
of sight early on. They're still trying to get used
to to that feeling. So it very much feels like
a practice scrimmage every time out. And for players, I

(59:58):
think this is why I've always said a part of
what I've always said there's gonna be an issue with
student percentage early on, it's it's an adjustment for them
with that line of sight. Chris Mannox our guest in
the Doug Otlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
the Lakers are interesting because you know, now you're you're
working in Dion Waiters, you're working in j. R. Smith,
You're working without two of their their point guards. Um,

(01:00:21):
what what's the what's the feeling from the from the
Lakers early on in quarantine. Well, I mean, you know
they're dependingly you ask, I guess. I mean there are
a lot of people, you know, coaches that will say
they've got Davis, They've got Lebron. Everything else is just
kind of ancillary. There are others, and this I kind
of lean more towards this point. Let's say, look, when
you lose you know, a guard with the defensive ability

(01:00:42):
of Avery Bradley, and even a player like Rondo wasn't
having a good year, but he has the trust of
Lebron James out there on the floor, and as we've
seen time and again, playoff Rondo is a real thing. Um,
you know, losing those guys is significant. Look, I saw
what j R. Smith did last night. I still believe
you're playing JR. Sam. If you've got problems like you're
you're if you're the Lakers, you're gonna be leaning heavily

(01:01:04):
on Alice Caruso and Danny Green, and you've got to
cross your fingers and hope that Rondo, who's one of
the tougher players I've ever covered. I mean, he plays
through pain an injury as much as any player I've
ever seen. That he comes back on the early end
of that diagnosis and doesn't miss any any playoff games.
So I think that it's it's definitely a concern, especially
when they play teams with elite backcourts and look could

(01:01:27):
face one in that first round. If Portland's you know,
gets into that final spot. Um, what about the Bucks?
How much pressure is on them to win it or
at least get to the finals considering the honest can
be offered the super Max this offseason, there's there's pressure.
But man, they look great like they look they look there.
They are by far and away the best team I've
seen out here. And that's not just me. Like I

(01:01:49):
spend most of my dad Ducks sitting in the hotel
lobby where the practice floors are, and I just kind
of hang out, you know, Coaches, players walk by, and
oftentimes when the conversation turns to who looks good, who
does than it's the Bucks who look good. I mean,
they look like they have just picked up exactly where
they left off, Um, you know in February March and
are just continuing on. And when I talked to Bucks
officials about that, you know, one thing they've said to

(01:02:11):
me is that, you know, While there were a lot
of players for for very good reasons, that didn't want
to come to Orlando, that didn't want to be part
of this, the Bucks never really experienced that. I mean,
their guys, all of them, from day one, we're all
in on this resumed season, had that mindset, you know,
from the day they reported their own facts facility in Milwaukee,
and that's you know, there are a lot of like
little mini variables here that that that will go into

(01:02:34):
the success of our failure of a team that's one
of them. That's so, I think they're walking with their
desire to be here and their focus and the fact
that they're clearly and as good as safe as as
any team that's here, and I think that's going to
help them get off to a strong start. Chris Mannox
joining us. Uh. There have been some that believe this
is Tanka, This is uh not Tanka Palouosa, this is
uh uh Tampa Palooza. What what's the reality to that? Well,

(01:02:59):
I mean it's it's certainly possible that you know, especially
in the coming weeks, um you're gonna see the NBA relaxed.
I think it's rules on players being able to kind
of bop between hotels. Right now, you have to stay
in your own hotel. And look, it is interesting that
the Raptors and Heat are in the same hotels. The
Box and those of the two teams that are going
to you know, presumably be recruiting. Yeah, it's pretty hard

(01:03:20):
in the summer of one. But I mean, you know,
I mean again, I sit in that lobby all day
and you know, three teams at a time are practicing.
They're all kind of walking back and forth, you know,
along the lobby. They're all interacting with each other briefly, uh,
during that time. So I guess anything is possible. But
most of these guys, from the ones I've talked to
you at this point, are just kind of laying low.

(01:03:41):
I mean, they're not a lot of people are using
the players lounge from what I hear. You know, certainly
we've we've heard the joke about that the DJed events
that they've had that haven't really gone over all that well. Uh,
some guys are fishing, some guys are playing golf. But
for the most part, you know, the coaches that I
talked to you say, they're guys are just kind of
kind of hanging out and laying low so something could
come up. I mean we're only a couple of weeks

(01:04:01):
into all this, but right now it doesn't feel like
there's some kind of tampering going on. Chris mannicks up
Mannix Uh Okay, So I mean we knew that Tibbs
was likely to be the Knicks head coach, but now
he is the Knicks head coach. Does this change the
Knicks to becoming a destination franchise? I don't know if

(01:04:23):
if a coach changes, you know, their ability to become
a destination franchise. Like I didn't think Jason Kidd would
have been this lure for Janice one, Like that was group.
You've never gone down this path before with you know,
whether it's hiring David Fizdale, they purported players coach. I mean,
I just don't. I think the franchise and the success
of it and the stability of it overall weighs more

(01:04:46):
than a head coach. I will say that maybe I'm
in the minority here, but I love the hire for
the next I mean I think like Tom Thibodeau should
never ever be a general manager and a coach again,
like is the least qualified person temper mentally to have
those two jobs. Maybe less qualified than Larry Brown, who
definitely shouldn't hold those two jobs or never sold those

(01:05:07):
two jobs either. Tipps isn't qualified for that. But as
a coach, his record kind of speaks for itself. I mean,
those Chicago teams were excellent before things when Haywire and
Milwaukee are not. In Minnesota, they were trending upwards. You know,
they were a good team in the year before he
got fired. I keep hearing about how he's not great
with young players. Those Bulls were incredibly young, you know

(01:05:27):
when Thibodeau took over. I mean, Derrek Rose was the
youngest m v P ever to win that award when
he did in two thousand and eleven. And Tibodeau's big
mistake in Minnesota wasn't necessarily how he coaxed uh, you know,
Colin any Towns and Wiggins. It was that he sided
with Butler and stayed siding with Butler throughout all the drama.
With all that, that just burned his relationship with those players.
But as a coach, this guy's great. So I think

(01:05:50):
this is only you know, finally the nick higher head
coach who you know actually is a qualified head coach,
and I think it's only gonna help them. I don't
know if it makes a big difference recruiting players, but
it's help them win, and ba's gonna make a big difference.
Awesome stuff. Chris mannos enjoyed the bubble. You can be
the guy those DJ events to be the first to
get out on that dance floor. We know that's that's
that's what you'd like to do. Set to set the tone, Man,

(01:06:10):
ex set the tone. There wasn't real quick. There was
a There was a a GM that told me that
when that event happened, they said, you know, Dwight Howard,
the only guy there. The DJ steps up, say shout
out to Dwight Howard. You're the real one for being
the only one in the building. So it was quite
the event the first time around. That's that's hilarious. Chris
mannis join us from Sports Deals Trade. You can check
out his podcast I Do. It's really really good man,

(01:06:30):
it's great stuff. Thanks for joining us. Will Yannis Day
in Milwaukee long term one Hall of Famer things, so
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(01:06:53):
now here's what we do every day. This time we
like to um and a day. This time we will
find a portion of a previous show which we want
to bring back for you. In this case, Charles Barkley
was in the Herd. He said this about where he
thinks Janice will end up. I won't be honest to
stay in Milwaukee. I think it's just be great for

(01:07:15):
the league. They'd be great up a small market team.
One we saw what what was devastating when Kevin went
to the Warriors and it ruined a couple of franchises.
It made him irrelevant. They're gonna be a contender for
the next three or four years. But I don't like
super teams. I think it just ruins the balance of
the NBA. UM I do think it ruins the balance,

(01:07:37):
But I also think that you know, Janice has clearly
given them a good portion of his career to be
one more year. He's a lot to do what he wants.
I think mortin Milwaukee is a good spot. Milwaukee is interesting.
They have his beautiful arena, great pact facility. They're owned by, uh,
the guys that run Madison Square Garden right there, owned

(01:07:58):
by actually by some New York I Is. And they've
done about as good a job as you can possibly
do one building a team around a guy in two
building up the franchise. And Milwaukee's only about an hour
and a half from Chicago, Like, it's not it's not
crazy far from Chicago if you want to get into
that sort of thing. Is it cold, Yeah, it's cold.

(01:08:21):
Summer is amazing, amazing and falls great too. I don't know.
I just I think there's something cool to be in
the biggest fish in one of the smaller ponds. And
could he go to Golden State? Like the rumor has
been Golden State more than Miami, although Miami, Toronto, these
are international cities. I could see it, and I can

(01:08:42):
understand it. But it is better for the league if
a guy is a homegrown player and stays there, which
which only shows the pressure that the Bucks will be under.
This is what Barkley had to say about maintaining the
NBA's bubble. Some players are gonna get busted, probably a
month in some food is gonna try to sneak somebody in,
and you know security is so tight, but somebody's gonna

(01:09:05):
get busted and they're gonna be embarrassed that. I guarantee
you the good teams are not gonna do it. It's
gonna be somebody on a bad team. You've got no
chance of winning. But I guarantee you on a couple
of those bottom feeders, they might try to do something stupid. Hmm, yeah,
I think there'll be a mental checkout from some of
those teams. Are like, what am I doing here? Those

(01:09:25):
teams that don't make the playoffs, you know, you get
to the last couple of days, what's to keep them there?
Although they do run the risk of bringing the entire
league down. Here's Barkley Stots and the Lakers. You know
that time you got Lebron and Anthony Davis. The Clippers
and the Bucks are probably only two team in this conversation.
To me, I've always said, just gonna come down to

(01:09:46):
Anthony Davis. Lebron is gonna have his hands full with
Paul George and Choi. Offensively and defensively, Nobody in the
NBA can match up with Anthony Davis. M hmm, he see.
I I think Anthony Davis. There's a lot of questions
about his level of toughness once you get deep in
the playoffs. He hasn't done in the playoffs. It's a

(01:10:07):
more physical brand of basketball, and there have been times
even this year when the Lakers have been a little
bit disappointed by his level of toughness um in key situations.
And yes, they have two great players, but man, the
rest of that roster, unless Kyle Kuzma starts to play,
the rest of that roster has been shaky at best.
Uh So we'll see, you know, if if who's gets going,

(01:10:32):
if they find more guys to hit shots, then yeah,
those two are spectacular, but the Clippers are just a
more talented team and their guard play you start to
get I love Caruso, but there's a reason that Crusoe
had to bite, scratch and claw just to get in
the league. And he's not the traditional shooter that plays

(01:10:56):
off of Lebron. He's a slasher, he's a defender, he's
an energy guy. And not having a point guard who
can either create shots for others or make shots themselves,
sometimes it can be problematic. That's all that stuff is great,
though he missed Charles Barkley in The Herd download the
Herd podcast. I got two NBA games going on at once.

(01:11:19):
Here's watching this. I see have the one game which
is in that I think is more. One of the
arenas has like the fake cartoonish fans and the other
one has more of the logos of the team. Whoever
the home team is. Yeah, So it's weird that they
have too because I'm used to They used only have
one arena. Now they have to there down the Milkhouse

(01:11:41):
facility on campus. I think I don't know which one
is the which is gonna be the main arena they're
gonna play the championship. But it shows that this can
obviously be done. But it's gotta be. If if it
wasn't for COVID, this would be a really good reality show,
wasn't it. Who would you want to have followed around?

(01:12:05):
J R. Low Williams, JaVale McGee, JaVale McGee, we're all
we're picking out all guys on the l A teams.
There's got to be some other personalities that we want.
I don't know, I don't really want him. Do we
want to mark as smart? Do we want to. Yes,
I think Harden would be interesting and for as big

(01:12:28):
of a star, be a lot less interesting as you
think than you think. But yes, well that's what okay.
So I would say that about Russell Westbrook as big
of a you know, like star player. He is everything
we've ever known about. Russell Westbrook is like he married
like his high school sweetheart and it's just like a
family guy. All he cares about is playing basketball. Hardens
the one who is notorious for going to strip clubs

(01:12:51):
and trying to do you know, stuff off the court.
So yes, so who would trying to think? Who else? Who?
There would be Joel embiid that Ben He's got an
interesting personality. Yeah, Simmons would be interesting too. I mean that,
you know, most of those teams are pretty interesting. I
don't think the Heat would be terribly interesting. Tyler Hero

(01:13:12):
maybe a little bit. He's got a quirky got a
fun personally. I got a lowed personality for a young
guy there. There'll be a lot of guys though. He'd
be like, yeah, there's not much to this guy. He
just goes back to his room plays video games. You know.
I also think that one of the things you know,
I think mentally and emotionally some of these guys will
go a little stir crazy. But I also think though

(01:13:33):
that when you get all this time in your hands,
you get a lot of like, uh, you get massages,
you know, you get work, body work done. Just you
think of all the time that's wasted in you get
done an arena and then you've got to get back
to your house and you have a significant other. I
grant you that it's good to have distractions. It's good

(01:13:54):
to have other people around you, if you have your kids,
it's good to have all that. But in terms of
being locked did on being a basketball player, like being
on basketball player Island. I remember my after my first
year broadcasting, I went back and I played in France
and Lamaron Farron and I had a little flat and
I was like a two block walk away from the
arena and a two block walk the other way to
the cafe where I could eat for free. And I

(01:14:16):
just remember like, and I didn't have kids at the time.
I remember like, I have so much free time to
do nothing. You know, I say that gym get extra shots,
I go in the cold tub. You know, I'd stretch extra.
I can't imagine when you're on a facility in the
NBA's obviously you know, done everything they can and none
of these guys are going to those DJ clubs or whatever.

(01:14:37):
You're just hanging out your Your body's gotta feel great.
Coming up next, it's time to take a breath and
know that we are going to have baseball. Baseball is
going to survive this week's event. I can prove it
to you. We'll do so. Up coming next to The
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(01:14:59):
to catch the lie addition of The Doug Gottlieb Show
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adversity shows kind of who we are and what we're about.

(01:15:22):
Lots of people do dumb stuff, yours truly included. But it's, uh,
what do you do when you do dumb stuff? And
and how does your company, your organization, your family, how
do you react to it? That That's what we'll find
from Major League Baseball. Four more Marlins test deposit for
coronavirus not seventeen the last five days. Good news is

(01:15:46):
the Marlins are, I mean, they're almost to the place
where they have heard immunity over this thing right. Terrible
way to get it, but it does feel like, I mean,
everybody's had it, and I know there there are some
reports of you can get it again, but they would
have to feel pretty good about where they are after

(01:16:07):
having gone through and done something stupid like deciding to
play anyway. And we don't know if playing anyway on
Sunday was really the reason that they all got sick,
but it definitely wasn't a good decision and it wasn't
following proper protocol. And to me, that's the story here
is not about baseball needing to be canceled. It's about

(01:16:28):
Major League Baseball needing to figure out how to make
it work, how to prevent these sorts of things from
causing any more game cancelations. Major League Baseball announced today
all games in the Marlin schedule have been postponed through Sunday.
Remember postponed, not canceled. P word is not a bad word.
C word is a bad word. In this that's Baltimore, Miami, Tonight,

(01:16:50):
Miami and Baltimore on Wednesday and Thursday, which by the
way is dumb and Washington at Miami Friday through Sunday.
So those series, and of course that means that Baltimore
is off for a couple of days. Actually it's Washington's
gonna be off. In addition to abundance of caution, the
remainder of the home and home series between Philadelphia, the
Phillies and the Yankees have been postponed. Yankees were supposed

(01:17:11):
to be at Philadelphia to Night in Philadelphia at New
York on Wednesday and Thursday. As a result of the postponements,
the Yankees will now play the Baltimore Orioles at Camden
Yards on Wednesday and Thursday, create more scheduling flexibility later
in the season. Additional rescheduling during the week of August
three will be announced later this week. So there you go.

(01:17:34):
There you go, right, You just you take it and
you say, okay, got it. Major League Baseball is doing
the best they can with a weird hand that on
some level they had to know there could be a
bit of an outbreak. I'm not sure if they knew

(01:17:55):
it would be this bad, or this early, or in
this way, but you did know that there would be
cases of COVID nineteen that would leak in to Major
League Baseball, right, Like, that's just common sense, common sense,
we've told you before, common sense, not that common This
was Rob Banford on the MLB Network when asked if

(01:18:17):
he thinks the season should be canceled. No, there really wasn't.
We talked about the situation. I think most of the
owners realize that we built protocols anticipating that we would
have positive tests at some point during the season, that
the protocols were built in order to allow us to
continue to play through those positives. And I think there

(01:18:39):
was support for the notion that, um, we believe that
the protocols are adequate to keep our players saying, so,
look if if they followed the protocols and there was
an outbreak now the sudden, you start to go like, wow,
there's nothing literally nothing we can do. That's not what
happened here. That's not what happened here. So this idea

(01:19:02):
that baseball out it's gonna happen anyway, it's fat like, No,
if they just did what they were supposed to do,
guys get sick, they get isolated, everybody gets tested. You
trace it you find out wouldn't have happened this way,
you report it, And even with seventeen members of the
Marlins testing positive, even with that, that's not a ski

(01:19:23):
season cancelor you're the best you can. Well, you have
all these cancelations. You only had sixty seven days for
sixty games. Okay, Well, some guys did something stupid. You know,
Don Mattingly decided to decide via a group text. I guess, well,

(01:19:45):
I guess what we gotta do is not canceled the season. Oh,
I guess we gotta learn from it. And those guys
are gonna have to play some doubleheaders, they're gonna have
to play with some non major league players. We're gonna
have to figure out exactly how we can get as
many games as possible. And it's almost better that it
happened now than in two months, better that it happened

(01:20:07):
to baseball than it did the basketball getting ready for
the playoffs. These things are better. So I don't I
don't think baseball should be canceled. I don't I think
the NFL. You get these people, and we've had a
bunch of NFL players who have opted out today. Dante

(01:20:28):
high Tower, Patrick Chung two of the four New England
Patriots that have opted out. And I respect with Dante
Hi Towers done because Dante Hie Tower is not one
some of these guys. I don't know if you guys
know how this works. Like if you have a pre
existing condition, you get one rate. If you just opt
out because of safety concerns, you get another rate. So
some of these guys that are opting out there in

(01:20:49):
the last year their deal, they might not have made
the team, they opt out, they get paid. It's actually
kind of a smart short term business decision if you
didn't think you're going to be in the league this
year anyway. But High Tower is set to make eight
million dollars and I gotta tell you, so what he's
saying is I want to protect my family. Okay, if

(01:21:13):
you were making eight million dollars, you're making eight million dollars.
If you took a million dollars, And he's like, look,
here's I'm gonna do. I'm gonna test every day at
that I don't test at work, I'm gonna test at home.
You know, I'm gonna put up all different sorts of
things at my home so that we're safe. You can

(01:21:34):
make seven million, and you'd be way safer than you
would be making no money or three dollars and staying
at home. And because the idea that during the next
six months, he's not gonna he's if he's gonna stay
in our quarantine and his family is gonna stay in

(01:21:54):
the quarantine and no one's gonna touch their food and
no one's gonna come over. Fine, but that's not the case.
We all that know that not to be the case.
The whole world is open. You've got a two month old,
you don't think you're gonna run to the store. You
run to the store. There's less control there in that
environment than there is when you're in NFL locker room.

(01:22:15):
And the difference is when you're in the NFL locker room,
you have a doctor nearby, you have people testing every day,
you have all the different things that only the uber
elite have because the NFL is trying to save their season.
So what what a high Tower has done is is fascinating.
I'm gonna make eight million dollars, No, I would rather

(01:22:39):
my my family be safe then make that eight million dollars. Okay,
But the truth is, I think his family is actually
less safe when he's staying at home, because when you
have a newborn, your home a lot. But that would
mean you're under complete quarantine, and essentially you're saying we're
gonna do that for the entirety of the season. Be
sure to catch the live edition of The gott Leap

(01:23:00):
Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. What
doug Ala Show, Fox Sports Radio. Adam Schefter actual texts
exchange with the NFL executive today after the sixth Patriot
adopted out. You know, Bill is masterminding all this somehow

(01:23:21):
chefty for what reason. Unnamed NFL executive, I don't know.
That's why he is who he is. Dante high Tower,
Marcus Cannon, Patrick Chung, Brandon Bolden, Danny Vittal, and Nag
Turrent I've all decided to opt out of the Patriots season.

(01:23:42):
But I don't know anybody who would opt out by
or I don't know Buyer. We Buyer is pretty cautious.
He's pretty cautious. What about you, now, Ramas, You're a
good one. Ramos, right, you have a one year old
at home? Yes, and I also have my ninety three
year old mother that we also look after as well. So, um,
it's if I would say opt out, But like you said,

(01:24:06):
maybe if I was in there with all of the
proper procedures that would be done, it would probably be
a better chance than me going in and out of
the house every day and doing stuff at home. So um, yeah,
it's it's it's a tough one, but my initial reaction
would be to opt out music. Would you opt out?
I would lean towards probably not. Um wait, wait that

(01:24:31):
it's a confusing sentence. Yeah, I would opt in. I
would opt out. Well, I mean like, am I Drew
Brees who's made like three million dollars? Or am I
guy who's on my rookie contract and I've really only
made like four million dollars? Whoever? You want to be scenario? Yeah,

(01:24:54):
I mean I would I would you made a bunch
of money? I would probably lean towards no. Probably. If
you're yeah, I think depending on you know, my circumstances
with family and things like that, I'd be much more
open to calling it a career, saying, hey, you owe
any of it to the sport? Um, do you owe

(01:25:14):
any of it to the sport? I don't think so. No. Fire,
What about you, would you opt in or opt out.
I would probably I would opt in. I would opt in.
Does it matter how much money you make? Um, I'd

(01:25:40):
have to be on the really really high end. I
think two two probably opt out. Mhm okay, Um, you
had to be a high end to opt out. Yeah,
Like I would to have a bunch of money in
the bank. Yes, yeah, Dante high tower style. I don't
even million dollars. I I like, I looked at the

(01:26:02):
totally other way, like if I'm a game million dollars, like,
all right, I'll spend whatever it costs to keep my
family safe and I'll go play football. Like I don't.
I don't, I honest goodness, don't understand unless if I
was taking care of my grandma. But even if you're
taking care of your grandma, like, all right, so you're
gonna pay full time, round the clock care, whatever I
can do to keep them healthy, I'll use that money there.

(01:26:22):
If I'm a highly paid guy. I think it's harder
if you're a low, lower paid guy to opt in. Yeah, in,
because the reward is not nearly as great. On the
other hand, you know you don't opt in the first time,
you may not get that opportunity. Yet well, well this
is the whole. Like what's a dollar to a rich
person versus a dollar to a poor person? So like,

(01:26:44):
what is thirty million dollars to Tom Brady when him
and his wife have a combined net worth of like
six million dollars compared to a guy who may be
the sole breadwinner for his entire family trying to get
two million dollars this year? Mhm, Like, I get the
total sums aren't even remotely close, But the two million

(01:27:05):
dollars to me and my family is our only way
to actually live a lifestyle. Right. Well, I don't know.
I just I look at this thing and I cannot
believe how many guys are just like, yeah, I'm opting out.
I can't do it. I don't I don't know, I

(01:27:25):
don't know. Just again, my thing is like, we we
operate like we're in quarantine, and these guys are going
off to war and there's just gonna be coronavirus, you know,
COVID nineteen disease, stuff flying left and right, Like, yeah,
don't see that being the case. Do I think that
the guys will get it playing in the NFL? Sure?
Do I think some guys will bring it from home, yes,

(01:27:47):
but I think I would guess you'll get the same
rate of infection or a lower rate of infection inside
the locker room as you will outside the locker room.
So so, like you mean to tell me these guys
that are opting out there like not gonna grow the
grocery store and gonna go out to a restaurant, not
gonna have play dates for their kids, not gonna have
anybody over the house. Of course they are, so so
what what's protecting them from infection there? And you're not

(01:28:10):
getting tested as as regularly and you want you won't
have the access to medicine as easily. I do think
that they're people are taking things in and maybe not
being as normal life as you make it out to be.
I do think that I we in our household, we're
still determining, you know, Okay, do you know, do you

(01:28:32):
do this? Do you do that? Yeah, we still go
to the grocery store. And that's obviously I guess you know,
a risk as you look towards it. But it's not
like you know, like we we haven't gone out to eat,
you know, even sitting outside anywhere since No, have not
and so I think that that thought process is probably
um shared by other people, maybe not a majority, but

(01:28:55):
I do think that some of the people with those
concerns probably are still, you know, trying to abide by
those rules, are trying to follow it. Uh yeah, there's
a difference. Thing not going like people do weird stuff though.
It's I saw this signs like thank you so much
for the glass, the plexiglass between me and the person
in Starbucks who touched all my food with their hands,

(01:29:18):
Like the plexiglasses there so I can't cough on them.
They can't cough on me, but they're still wiping their
nose and whatever and all their germs and getting it
on my Like I went to I went to Starbucks yesterday,
and uh, you know, now Starbucks is doing the straw
le list lids. All their lids are Stralla's, and the
ladies like putting on my Stralla's lids with her finger

(01:29:38):
fingers and then she hands it to me underneath the
plexi glass, Like I think, kind of defeat the purpose there,
Like I think mine, well somewhere gloves she was not
wearing gloves. I think it's just vary. So that's the
thing about the Marlins thing, Doug of of of you know,
of is it guys? You know what was the you

(01:29:59):
know what was the racing? Was it just a bunch
of guys went out in Atlanta on their first road
trip of the season, and you know, were they being reckless?
I mean, I don't know what they did. You know.
My whole thing is like just the idea that guys
are sick, and Domni is like, do you guys want
to play? Like? That's not everybody just read the rule Okay,
well we got the guys sick, what do we do.
Let's read the rule book? Oh we we we don't know.

(01:30:20):
That's called general manager. Let's call the front office. That's
called MLB. You know. But they didn't do any of
that stuff. It definitely feels like the Marlins reaction was,
are we have two choices. Someone here has to read
the hundred and thirteen page manual to figure out what
we're supposed to do kie or we just hear a
group text. And they were like, let's just see a

(01:30:42):
group text. Like also, I think there's a little of that,
but I also think there's the the part of it
which is um, the part of it which is hey,
we're probably all sick anyway, so let's just get one
last game in. That might have been a limit of it,
and that might have been made it worse, not better.
Probably did make it worse. It just optically it looks bad.

(01:31:03):
Optically it looks bad. I think Dan's point is a
really good one too, in terms of, like, we haven't
even determined exactly how we think they got it, so
leap into this conclusion that it's like, well, it's because
they were inside an MLB locker room. It's like, well, though,
somehow it had to get in there, and we need
to figure out, did someone pull Lou Williams and go

(01:31:25):
to Magic City or they're in Miami, you know, before
they left her there or there in Miami. Did somebody
do something when they're in Miami to you know. But
but the the point that I was making, and it
doesn't it's it's not any different than dance really is. Okay,
if we actually do the numbers, look at the infection
rate of athletes that are in quarantine, and I mean,

(01:31:47):
look there's all these and these college teams are releasing
these numbers. I mean, look at how few there actually
are in total? This is this is part of the
issue that that I find, so you know, that's you know,
become so polarizing. Those because in this conversation that it
was even revealed that and and and and I'm not faulting.

(01:32:08):
It's just everybody has their own situation, is Doug, you
are looking at life is like people are still trying
to kind of go back to normal, and in my
particular world it is anything but so when the numbers
are down, I'm saying, well, look it's because I'm the
one that's staying home all the time. And then you
may see the numbers and say, well it's not as

(01:32:30):
bad because my normal life is you know, is going on.
So so like both sides are almost you know, if
the numbers are going down, trying to take credit for
it or by having their own opinions shaped by their
own world. And I think everybody's different amongst us four.
Ryan's different than me than it's different than John that
is different from you as we're all handling this, you know,

(01:32:50):
in a different way. Question question it is, it's a
different deal. I would just for the record, I would
opt in. I wouldn't I wouldn't think nice about it,
you know, I would take every time I get home.
I would have, you know, do the like I do now.
I get home hand sanitizer. I wear a mask when
I'm when i'm not when I when I'm around places,

(01:33:10):
um and there's no random people that come in my car,
but I do. We've I've gone out to restaurants. I've
hung out at the beach plenty of when the beach
was shut down. I've done lots of most of the
activities I've done about our outdoors, with a couple exceptions.
But I also know that all my kids have gone
out and hung with their friends for the most part,
except from one of my daughters is she's she's kind
of panicked over the whole thing. And you know, we

(01:33:32):
do the best we can do the best we can.
But like I again, I think you have a better
chance to protecting your stuff you're making eight million dollars
than you do if you're making three and fifty dollars
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(01:33:54):
to listen live Doug Alive show. Fox Sports TRADEO. I
was just watching this video Marque's Goodwin of the Eagles's
opting out, and he showed the picture he says, a
little baby is just adorable and said, look, I've chosen
football so many times, not the right decision. I just
I hope, And he said, look, I'm respectful of of
guys of the NFL implementing states procedures. It's like, okay, dude,

(01:34:17):
as long as people understand you're gonna have to implement
your own safety procedures at home, right like you do,
get that right? It's cool if if you can opt
out and it's a decision you make, I do respect it.
But I also you don't want to be that I mean,

(01:34:38):
I just do you want to be that guy who says,
all right, well I'm gonna opt out because i want
to be safe, and then I'm gonna go to a
restaurant with my family to celebrate. It's all right, Lets
get to the press, the press, damn. Okay, okay. I
just want to add to what you said right there

(01:35:00):
in in someone like Marquis is Goodwin's defense, because I
feel the same way, as I know what I can do,
I don't know if I can trust the other fifty
guys in this room to do what they need to do.
And that's what makes you know. What was what I
would be worried about. But at least they're being tested
and you know they're going to be treated, whereas when

(01:35:22):
you're when you're in your own home, you have no idea. Sure,
But just like the Marlins, you know, you don't know,
you know, you're around guys. It's not like you, you know,
can get it and then you're immediately testing positive. You know,
it seems to take a little while, and it's tough
to trust the fifty other guys that they are doing
what you're doing, and that's staying home and staying within

(01:35:45):
the confine. So that could be a reason of thinking
as well instead of just keeping is you don't just
you don't see it from that angle. You just know,
I do. I totally understand what you're saying. I'm saying
the exact same thing applies in real life, only you're
not being eston. You won't be under the constant supervision
of doctors. Yeah right, Like, okay, so you came to

(01:36:05):
work today, do you stop anywhere? Did I just set
the drive through the drive? Okay? So you got so
so what would you eat? Just Starbucks? Okay, you got
a Starbucks? So you did the right thing. You. I
always see you with the mask, you always hand sanitize.
You're in your own little studio. We said hi to
each other, but we maintained social distancing. Right, all these

(01:36:28):
things happen. What about the guy who served you or
anyone who worked inside Starbucks? Who who put their hands
on your cup? Well, I wore a mask at the
drive up. I do put it on during the drive up,
and then when I drive away, I take it off.
They were wearing a mask when they handed it to me. Um, yeah,
I believe so I didn't notice today, but I didn't

(01:36:49):
take notice. But so, are you gonna stop anywhere else
the rest of the day? I'm no. Actually, you got
a work meeting afterwards, and then we'll be home. Sorry,
I don't tell you're fired. Not that we have to
go over the protocols for the Doug Gottlieb show. That's
that's the emergency. You didn't get that call. No, it's
just our weekly managers meeting. That's what we've got it.

(01:37:10):
So but but yeah, so that's just you know, it's
maybe it's tough trusting the you know, the other fifty
guys to do their part. That could be part of
it as well. Understood. The Marlins, the big news of
the day, won't resume their twenty season until Monday, that's
at the earliest, so they won't play the Orioles. They
won't play the Nationals this weekend. Minor change doug in
the schedule. You've got Yankees Orioles playing a two game set.

(01:37:32):
Now Yankees and Phillies series likely to be rescheduled um
at some point later on this week, but it is
allowing Major League Baseball to have some flexibility by keeping
these teams in a regional set up, so they will
be rescheduling like the the Yankees Philly series probably doubleheaders
in their future as well. Patrick Mahomes can add a

(01:37:54):
new title to his name. Not only is he Kansas
City Chiefs quarterback, not only is he VP, and not
only is he a Super Bowl champion, he is also
now an owner of a Major League Baseball team and
minority owner, buying a share into the Kansas City Royals.
He's a governor. Did you want to play? Oh, that's
the NBA. He's not say owner that is that is? Yeah,

(01:38:15):
that's pretty cool. Do you think he actually how much
money do you think he actually came up on this? Is?
This is clearly just a pr thing. Yeah, I would
I would say I would say five to ten mill. No, way,
you don't think so just a one mill? What do
you think my music? Do you have proof that's five
to ten mill? No? I don't have proof. But when

(01:38:39):
it's a two billion dollar franchise, I mean, what do
they sell shares that? Like? Are they just like, hey,
can you throw in ten thousand dollars the team? Well
there there's you could be it. You can do ads
for them, you can like it's called equity, right, And like,
I'll just tell you that there are people I do
not have equity in any of the brands that we

(01:39:01):
rep here, but there are people in our industry that
are like, hey, don't pay me for reading an ad
for I mean, you can't get mos to equity, But
for other smaller places, smaller shops, can you give me equity?
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a little there's some
equity given for some ups, for some other stuff. I
don't think he came off with five tam mill just
like that. I could be wrong because he's gonna make

(01:39:22):
a hundred and four MILLI before March, right, So I
don't think Aaron Rodgers bought it a share of the
Bucks five point five million, so that's probably what. Okay,
but but I don't know if huh five point five
million that this mh but but but it was that

(01:39:44):
five point five Do you play five point five up front? Right?
Or do you? He is it a million a year
and you get tickets? Like there's there's deals within deals
just so you know what, And I should correct myself
that they were the Bucks are sold, so would be
about five point five million. Their value has gone since
that's like like over a billion and a half now

(01:40:05):
they have new arena. Knew everything and that was that
was a smoking deal. But her senator her Cole soldom right, yes,
and he said you part of the deal though you
couldn't move him form Milwaukee correct forty GM. John Lynch
told reporters it's fair to say that wide receiver Deebo
Samuel will miss some regular season games recovering from his
broken foot. That stanks Deebo Samuels a monster. Obviously, his
name is Debo he's got to be a beast an.

(01:40:27):
He has to be quick. Other couple of ones. A
c C could delay their decision on Fall Sports to
next week. Zion Williamson back practicing with the Pelicans to
night he's cleared quarantine and uh yeah, we could see him.
Thurston nights backgainst the Jazz's backing out there and pressed.
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