June 16, 2025 • 38 mins
Doug weighs in on the reason why the WNBA ratings were down more than 50% when Caitlin Clark was injured and what happened in her return on Saturday. Doug defends NBA official Scott Foster in the wake of a missed call in game four that helped the Thunder win the game. Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to talk about the NBA Finals, Kevin Durant and all of the other NBA headlines coming off the weekend. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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(00:29):
It's a Monday, and we're excited to have you. Excited
to have you in. Hey, welcome in. We got an
NBA game tonight. Will not be the last NBA game
of the year, Hey, really important. Won't be the last
NBA game of the year. But it's getting later early,
(00:49):
getting later early. And the Pacers they had an unbelievable
opportunity to put the thunder in a bad way and
could not do it. We'll get you ready for Game
five as the As the show rolls on, Rick Brooker's
going to join us school talk. Some NBA trades. Sub
Desmond Bain has been traded, Raphael Dever's been traded. The
(01:10):
US Open had uh it was complete carnage yesterday, but
did have I thought a super exciting ending, and I was,
you know, we we're gonna do love and hate at
top of next hour. I hate myself because I was
one hundred percent wrong on one thing regarding the US Open.
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So this should be a really good show, should be
a very interesting show. Before we get to tonight's NBA,
let's talk about yesterday's WNB or or Saturday's WNBA. So
Caitlin Clark had well, look, she had herself a good game,
but more than anything, had just this thirty eight seconds
(01:51):
of pure basketball ecstasy right where she's coming down hitting
logo three after logo three, And you know, most of
this world has been put on notice because of it.
And it sparked a good conversation because now we have
tangible proof of what the American sports viewer thinks of
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the WNBA without Caitlin Clark. Keep in mind that in
her first game back from injury, she has thirty two points,
nine assists, eight rebounds, She's seven to fourteen from three
point range, and yeah, she did have seven turnovers. She
was not perfect. She was a plus five. Her team
won by was it fourteen points? I think fourteen points,
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But it sparked a bigger conversation because the ratings were
less than half of what they are with her once
she was out. Here's Caitlin Clark talking about that thirty
eight seconds where she that she had late in the
first quarter that broke the internet.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I took one in transition. That's kind of like where
I like to get to early and it's always good
to see the ball go through the hoop. And then
I came down and shot another one. Then I came
down and shot another one and saw three in a
row go in, So that gives you a lot of confidence.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Here's her head coach four point Guardner and writes Stephanie
White talking about having Clark back.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well, don't we always expect that kind of game from Caitlin.
I knew her adrenaline was going to be high to start.
I mean, she's been itching to get back out there.
She carried us in the first half, and then everybody
else carried us in the second half. And I thought
her decision making was great, outstanding, especially that last four
minute stretch or whatever it was that she was on
the floor, did a really good job of getting everybody involved.
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And that's what she does.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, that is what she does. That is what she does. Okay,
So there's a woman named Rachel Demita. Rachel, I believe
she's a former basketball player. She's like an influencer. She
played at Old Dominion. Didn't play with Old Minion. The
band I like, played at Old Dominion, which is a school.
I think they're in the Colonial. I don't know anyway.
(04:01):
Her husband is Andre Robertson, who's formerly played for the Thunder,
had a bad knee injury, then played overseas. So she's influencer.
She had a podcast, She has a podcast, and I
think she libels herself as a WNBA reporter. I think
with CBS Sports. I'm not sure. Anyway, here's Rachel Demita
trying to explain from her perspective while there were drops
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while Kaitlyn Clark was out.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I hope you guys don't mind. But the news was
just announced that WNBA TV ratings are down more than
fifty percent since Kaitlin Clark's injury, and it was also
reported that the Indiana Fever television viewership is also down
over fifty three percent. A lot of people stopped watching
because they are boycotting the WNBA. They don't want to
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give viewership to any other teams or any other players,
whether they like other players on the team or not,
because of how the media and the league itself has
handled Kaitlin Clark, how they have treated her fans.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I mean, that's kind of a new one to me.
I had anybody heard about that previously. I mean, usually
when you do a boycott and it picks up steam
and it affects ratings this greatly, one would I just
one would think one would think that that boycott would
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be one that we knew about or heard about. Right,
That's that's what That's what people, anybody, I think reasonably
would think. But Rachel to me to acting like, well,
that's the reason the ratings are down. No, we like
watching her play, period. We don't like or relate to,
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or have a desire to watch most anybody else play.
The ratings that are left, that's your classic w NBA
core base that has been there probably for twenty five
years and has grown in incremental pieces over time. But
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the fifty percent that you lost, that's the Caitlin Clark effect. Period.
Stop and until you just go okay, start there, until
you start at that very point where you realize, okay,
fifty percent of the people are only watching to see
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basically what she did Saturday. Then you can properly market
what you have as a sports league, and you know
it's it's fascinating. I'm a basketball guy. I played high
school basketball, I played college basketball, I played professional basketball.
I've covered it, I now coach it. It's very much
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part of who I am as a person. Hey, my
dad was a high school coach, became college coach, became
AU coach, travel ball coach, and mentored so many And
I would just tell you that, like when you grew
up in a basketball family, the WNBA has struggled for
a long time. But I don't know how many times
you have to say this. People only care about Caitlin
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and the thing that I find to be when I
watch the game, when I watch how she walks, how
she carries herself was this year is what we hoped
she would be last year. And I would also tell
you that I think the best thing that happened to
her is one not getting selected to the Olympic team
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last year and probably getting injured this year because what
she has to deal with, and when I say deal with,
maybe that's not the right term. What she endures on
a daily basis. I don't care about the constant scrutiny.
It's just a lot of attention. And she went from
playing college ball to play in the WNBA and probably
needed a break and need to recalibrate her game. And
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now that she's reached calibated her game and it fits
a little bit more of the WNBA model. Last year
she was square peg, round hole. This year it's round,
round peg, round hole, and she's different, She's dominant, She's
taken another step. The most improving you make in college
is freshman is sophomore year offseason. The most improving you
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make as a professionalist between your first and your second year.
Because you don't know what you don't know. You don't
know how to train, you don't know how you travel,
you don't know how you eat, you don't know how
your team it's gonna treat you, how the refts are
gonna treat you, how the opponent's gonna treat you. And
then in year two, you know all these things, they
become easier and then you become the better because of it.
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I mean this when I say this, Like Caitlin Clark
was one of those. She had other worldly talent, and
she had what the kids call aura last year, and
there was some substance, but it was a lot of
she's going to be great. She's not great yet, but
she's it's going to be great now. She's great now,
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She's great shooting percentages, confidence, knowledge of where to get
in the court, how to avoid get herself out of trouble,
not get herself in a foul trouble, how to communicate
with teammates, and honestly for the fever, what coach to
put around her, with players to put around her. It's
all going to be better in year two because you're one.
(09:23):
You just don't know what you don't know? You know,
all right, stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Well go ahead, Dan, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
No, that's okay.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
I just wanted to just add something in because I'm
curious on your thoughts about this. I think it was
the most important WNBA game she's played in her career.
And the reason I say that is a lot of
what you said is this leap from year one to
leap to year two in what she's done in the
you now know what you didn't know previously, And it
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was one of the questions that I had about the
Caitlin Clark on would this rise continue, would would the
league be able to catch up at all? And obviously
they haven't, but to be able to come in make
a viral moment in a ninety second span upon her
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return against the defending WNBA champions who were unbeaten to
that point. Like, there will be games later on in
her career that she plays and playoff games that will
be more important, but I think to this point this
was the most important game that she played in her
career because of everything you kind of laid out in
the first eleven minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Sure, sure, I'm okay with that most important in WNBA career.
Like it sounds a little strong when it comes out
of your mouth, and then you go back and you
track it and you're like, I'm up, I'll buy that.
I'll buy that. I mean, I think there was a
little bit when she came when they came off the
Olympic break too. I thought that was important. But I
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don't know if there was one individual game that was
as big as this, right, and then again, like if
you're a if you're a hater, a naysayer, and she
doesn't play well, or she doesn't play after going to
several of the Pacers' finals games, you know, like, oh,
well she's good enough to go to the but she's
not good at the play and blah blah blah blah blah.
So yeah, I think when I initially heard you say that,
(11:21):
it sounded like hyperbole, and then when you supported it,
I started to think about it.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I don't think you're wrong, and there will be bigger games.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But yeah, right, you're just talking to this point up
up until this point, Sabby, what'd you think? I know,
you're you're a kind of resident Caitlin Clark beat reporter.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Well, yeah, I mean this. There will be bigger games,
but this one was huge because remember they lost the
Liberty at home by two, and then then she had
to exit for several games because of her injury. So
she comes back the Liberty are still undefeated and then
they end up winning by fourteen, and she just puts
on this amazing first half show. It was coming back
(12:00):
from the injury. It's spot as good of a game
to play that you could hope for.
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need to know about the Kidd and Clark effect. Right,
this is it, This is it kind of in a nutshell,
(12:30):
Jay Stu, how old are you? You're fifty two now,
fifty two? Fifty fifty two?
Speaker 8 (12:37):
Right, I'm twenty two years old, fifty two year old
white male.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Fifty two year old white mail. It's a Saturday afternoon
in the summer in southern California. How is the weather Saturday?
Speaker 8 (12:48):
Oh, it's a little too hot for me up in
Santa Coarita. But it was one of those typical southern
California June sunny days.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Just a perfect day, chamber of commerce day as they
caught in someplace.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
Lots of options outside. What were you doing in my
air conditioning living room on my couch watching every second
of the Caitlin Clark game. God bless Sam for caring
if the fever won or not. I never care about that.
There was thirty eight seconds of her making those threes
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where I literally stood up and fist pumped a grown
man fist pumping on my couch on a sunny Saturday.
That is why I tuned in to kitln Clark and
I think of what And it didn't take long until
you started to see it on social media. Everyone started reposting,
is this is the unicorn? This is what we tune
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in for? It really was fun.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I couldn't send any better. Right, the fact that on
a Saturday afternoon, when you have baseball options, outdoor options,
Lake Beach Hike.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
We missed the Oakmont as well. What a third round?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
It was us open taking place, just pure carnage there
all these other things going on. He's watching the WNBA
game two teams that I mean, couldn't pick everybody else
on the team out of a lineup, right If they
were sitting next to him on his couch and they
said their WNBA players, you'd be like, Okay, that's the
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power of what she's doing.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
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Speaker 1 (14:29):
It's The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So the
Pacers were up big and Oklahoma City comes back and
wins the game. Late in the game, there's several calls
at first half. I thought some calls went against the
Indiana Pacers despite the fact they were at home. Late
in the game, Shake Gildess Alexander makes it beautiful fade
away in the left baseline and if you watch the
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replay right, looks like he pushed off, looks like he traveled.
There was no call. Of course, Scott Foster's on the game,
but he calls Scott Foster the extender, the extender, and
he's one of the few NBA officials who everybody knows
his name. He's got a lot of heat, especially on
social media because Oklahoma City won because there were a
(15:15):
couple of missed calls. Here's he's Here's head coach Rick
Carlisle on Scott Foster.
Speaker 10 (15:22):
I think it's awful what some of the things I've
seen about about the officiating and Scott Foster in particular.
I know Scott Foster for thirty years. He's a great official.
He's done a great job in his playoffs. We've had
him a lot of times, and the ridiculous scrutiny that's
(15:44):
being thrown out there is terrible. An unfair and unjust
and stupid agree.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I agree, and I just I'm not going to make
it a habit of calling out people in media who
I'm friends with or friendly with, but I think those
are the people that it looks the worst for. It
just does you know, It's like you're in order for
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that level of conspiracy to take place, too many people
would have to know, and all it takes is one person,
one person to know what they're not supposed to know,
and the entire league is cooked. So no, there is
no grand conspiracy. There is no way of setting you know,
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there's not some way which Adam Silver guarantees that it
will go a certain number of games. That simply is
not true. And anyone who says otherwise is just making
up things because it's really easy to make up things
in the media and in social media these days, way easier.
It's harder to hide, easier to make things up. So
(16:59):
it doesn't mean that he's a perfect official. It doesn't
mean it was a perfectly officiated game.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
By the way, Ben Mathen, who had an unbelievable game
in Game three, he missed two gigantic free throws. I
think he missed three or four down the stretch. I
know he missed two gigantic free throws under two minutes
to go. So what are we actually doing here? We're
acting like Scott Foster is the reason that Oklahoma City
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won the game. Pacers misshots, missed free throws and couldn't
and when they had a lead, they couldn't keep their
foot on the throat of the Oklahoma City thunder. That's
the story. And this is somebody who has no I
don't even have to support, have no dog in the fight.
Watch basketball, no basketball. Didn't like a couple of no calls,
(17:46):
But I'm not gonna sit there and go they were
cheating calls. That's bull for people who say it, especially
people who work in the media. But this is also
just another reason why you can't pay attention to social
media because people just don't know what They just don't know.
Rick Buker join us ask his opinion around the corner. First, Uh,
let's get my man Dan Byron here. Get a quick
(18:06):
update Dan, anybody got Doug.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
In addition to tonight's Game five, Sham's just reported that
apparently ABC has listened they will have starting lineups this
part of the broadcast tonight. However, in the tweet to announce.
Speaker 11 (18:21):
It, it was specifically stated that it's the first time since
twenty thirteen in the NBA Finals that the starting lineups
will be a part of the pregame broadcast for tonight's
Game five tip off tonight eight thirty Eastern Time from
Oklahoma City.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Following a report over the weekend, Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yes, classic like social media where you get somebody who
hasn't paid attention. I love that, Adam Silver said, like
they were people were talking about like, hey, whatever happened
to those Larry O'Brien. I mean, what's the trophies, Lario branhrossing, Yeah,
the Larry O'Brien Trophy is like, yeah, we haven't had
those in like a decade. Because the stickers people slip
on the stickers.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Yeah, I thinyd the mid court sticker like I could
not stand it. And they only did it for a
couple of finals. It was just more of not having
any signis whatsoever on the court, like even you know,
near the mid court stripe or anything, but anyway.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Matter, I mean, look, and so they super imposed and
people freaking out about being superimposed. It's like, yeah, hey,
I'll just I just go ahead.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
I'll just say this. You have three different courts, four
different courts during the regular season. Why can't you make
a specific finals court?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Right?
Speaker 9 (19:30):
You mean you don't need to.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Make a finals court. They come in segments. All you
gotta do is take it exactly, paint that segment. It's
the Doug Gottlieb Show, It's Fox Sports Radio. It's Monday. Uh,
it's that Tonight is going to be Game five of
the NBA Finals. Who better to catch up with than
Rick Buker from Fox Sports one and Fox Sports dot
Com covering all things NBA. Buke, there's there's you know,
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social media works and really all forms of me. When
you have a Scott Foster official in the game and
what some feel like or questionable calls at the end
of a game, you get all kinds of conspiracy theories.
What's your take on the end of Game four?
Speaker 12 (20:14):
I thought there were mistakes made by Indiana in the
final two minutes and forty one seconds. I'm certainly not
going to put what transpired there on Scott Foster. I
thought that the Pacers did get a tough whistle in
the first half, and Rick Carlisle apparently feeling like comfortable
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with the score maybe and thinking I may need my
challenges later, this is probably going to be a close game.
Opted not to challenge any of.
Speaker 13 (20:43):
Them, you know.
Speaker 12 (20:44):
The only one, the only debatable one was in the
final minutes that I could see was the shot by
Shake Gildes Alexander that gave Oklahoma City its first second
half lead. But based on the liberal interpretation of what
a gather step is and how loose they are in
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calling step backs, I don't I don't know that he
would have won that. I would have liked to have
seen him challenge that and seen where it would have gone.
But other than that, my feeling was that the Pacers
were victims of their own hands. They made far too
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many mistakes. Their execution wasn't good. They reached in too
many situations. Look, the referees demonstrated, let's let you know
how they were going to call it early on, and
I don't know that the Pacers adjusted and took that
into account in terms of how they played. So I'm
not going to I'm not going to put this on
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Scott Foster. I thought it was a tough whistle early on.
I thought there were a number of plays. Number of
calls that and looking at them at replay clearly went
the wrong way. But that's why you have challenges, and
certainly that's not where the game was decided. I thought
the game was decided in the third quarter. Actually at
the end of the third quarter, when the Pacers led,
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had their biggest lead by ten, had an opportunity should have,
I believe, should have expanded it to sixteen or eighteen
at that point and made it really difficult for Oklahoma
City to mount a fourth quarter comeback. And Carlisle had
a gas Obie topping and what appeared to be a
gas Pascal Siakam and an ineffective TJ. McConnell and an
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ineffective Andrew Nemhart, and he didn't make any changes. He
wrote it to the end, and they scored one point
in the final two minutes. Instead of it being seventeen,
it was seven. And you just got the feeling like
the thunder, felt like they dodged a bullet.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yep, I agree, you got I got a step on
him when he got him down, and yeah, I thought
he traveled. I thought he pushed off. But again, well
we've seen enough of those not be called you know,
and we've seen enough not be called to understand probably
why they weren't called. And look, you miss Ben Mather
and missed two free throws too. I mean, you can't
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understand that he.
Speaker 12 (23:17):
Missed three or four. Yeah, in three or four And
even like in the final with seven seconds left, he
could have fouled new Door and and didn't, and the
ball swings to Shay and and and them hart uh
and then is forced to foul him. And I look,
the game was probably out of reach at that point
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because you had two fouls on on on inbounds plays
where okay, so you got free throws and and possession
of the ball. So the game was already decided. But
that was just a microcosm for me of the little
mistakes that Indiana made. I just got the overall sense,
whether it was from Rick Carlisle or the Pacers, that
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they've felt like, oh, we've got this, we got them,
and didn't show enough respect for the fact that the
Oklahoma City Thunder were a sixty eight win team and
that if you had an opportunity to put them in
a deep hole, you needed to do it rather than
think that, you know what, we're just gonna as we have,
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as we've proven we're the better executing team in the
final minutes, they decided to play that game, and and
when you don't fully respect an opponent, you often you
often pay the price. The only other other call that
I looked at that that would suss and I didn't
see it in real time the replay was the turnover
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by Halliburton where it looked like Dork gave him a
shove in order to get the ball. That's the only
other other other whistle that I saw where I was thinking, Okay,
they missed one in the final minutes.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Stet Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, what do
you make of the Desmond Bane.
Speaker 12 (24:59):
Try that The Orlando Magic are looking at it and saying,
we've we've got a crazy number of first round picks
and we want to go for it now. We think
we're we think we're one player away from from making
this happen, and we need to kind of clear up
our almost an embarrassment of riches. I was surprised at
(25:22):
the number of picks, to be honest with you, unprotected
first round picks. But I think the way they're looking
at it is, you know what we expect to be
really good. And we look at the UH and and
and therefore, you know, how good are those picks going
to be? And uh and the and the Eastern Conference
(25:43):
is wide open, like nobody knows what the Boston Celtics
are going to be. Nobody's buying the Milwaukee Bucks right now.
Philadelphia seventy six ers, I mean, go down the line.
I think they're looking at it and looking at how
how how they've played the last year two and are saying,
you know, the one thing that we're missing, the big
one thing that we're missing is three point shooting, and
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Desmond Bane can certainly give us that and gives us
a very tough physical backcourt between jal And Suggs and
Desmond Bane. And so I think they just decided, you know,
we're going to go for it because at this point
we have a bunch of young players, like we can't
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all the picks that we have, We're not going to
be able to utilize them all. So I think they
probably gave almost practically gave away a couple in this case.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Uh, where are we with Kevin Durant in regards to
the likelihood of him being traded and destinations.
Speaker 12 (26:46):
Well, the interesting you know, the report is that Houston,
San Antonio, and Miami Heat are his preferred destinations. As
we know with star players, they generally picking from the
teams that they want to go to, and so you
know who can make the best deal or how much
(27:08):
that he directs like I want to go to this
particular place. I mean, it really comes down to if
it's those three, both Houston and San Antonio can make
better offers for KD than than than Miami at this point.
That said, at least as starter kits for what Phoenix is,
(27:32):
I assume is looking to rebuild. That said, I believe
that the best place for KD would be among those
three teams would be Miami. The absolute best place would
be for me would be Denver, and I'd be willing
to move Jamal Murray in order to make that happen.
And I would sell Phoenix on the idea that we're
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going to give you the point guard you guys have
been looking for since Chris Paul left town, and and
the money that Jamal is making comes close to what
KD is that it wouldn't be a one for one,
but it could be fairly close. And I love the
idea of Aaron Gordon, Nikola, Jokic and k d as
(28:17):
being the core of my Denver team. I think if
they had that core, I put them right there as
being capable of playing with anybody in the West, and
I probably favor them regardless of what Oklahoma City does
in the next week.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Wow, Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, that's
the voice of Rick Buker New York Knicks head coaching
job still reports that Jason Kidd is the guy, but
they continue to get turned down, and then of course
the internet has fun with it. You know that the
Bucks offered up Doc Rivers, only the Knicks refused this time.
Like you've heard all of those what's the reality to
(28:56):
where they are in their head coaching search?
Speaker 12 (28:59):
I mean, they're they're they're searching for an answer right now.
I do believe that while the Jason Kidd thing was
turned down, I would not be surprised if we end
up revisiting that. It really comes down to. And I
haven't had a chance to talk to Jason or anybody
in his camp yet.
Speaker 13 (29:20):
But I I could see where he pushes the needle
and tries to make make that tries to reopen that
from his end, because it wasn't Jason Kidd rejecting the request,
it was the Dallas Maverick saying we're not going to
let you talk to our guy. And uh, and then
(29:40):
it comes down to are they willing willing to give
up a pick or is Dallas posturing in order if
we do give him up, then you're gonna have to
give us a little bit more than than maybe was
originally a thought.
Speaker 12 (29:52):
So that's where I would expect I would expect that
to go. But look, Uh, every DM that I've ever
talked to always has a list in his pocket of
the head coaches that he would hire if he could,
his wish list. And it's regardless of whether he has
(30:15):
a coach that he likes at the time or not.
They always have that. And the way the Knicks have
approached this would make you think that they that they
didn't have a wish list like that, because even if
you look at the guys that they've supposedly requested interviews from,
they're all different. They're all they like, they're just across
(30:39):
the board. They don't make a whole lot of sense
for what the New York Knicks have and where they are,
So it's hard to predict what they're doing when one
you don't we've got multiple people in the front office
that put out information, you don't know which one to trust.
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And two, the proof is in the way they've approached this,
which is a scattergun approach. It just does not fit
with every other coaching search that I've seen. Look, I
thought from the very beginning, if you're the first place
I would go is Taylor Jenkins. So I think he
got the short stick in Memphis, and I think he
demonstrated that with the scoring point guard. He knows how
(31:24):
to run a team like that, and I know that
he had the respect of his players until the front
office undercut him and brought in some assistant coaches to
run the kind of offense that the front office thought
that they should run. That's the first place that I
would have gone, And maybe the second would have been
not Chris Finch to the Minnesota Timberwolves for his assistant coach,
(31:46):
Michael Nori because Norrie, because we've got a chance to
see him coach that team in the playoffs, and I
think that from what I know about his personality, I
think he'd be able to handle the New York market.
Those would have been the first two places that I
would have gone, and not in an array of coaches
who have current jobs and you have to get permission
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from their teams in order to just talk to them.
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got love and hate from the weekend up coming at
the top of the hour. I guarantee that there's some
love and some hate from Dan Byer regarding the US Open.
I wonder which side he'll take or he'll take both sides.
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But before we get to any of that, you know
we should do, let's get to Game Time with Dan Live.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
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So you.
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Speaker 9 (34:18):
Today is big deal, little deal, no deal.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Big deal, little deal or no deal? Doug that Kevin
Durant doesn't want to go to Minnesota. This was a
report today from Shams on the heels of him narrowing
his finalists down to apparently three teams, but previously there
were five teams mentioned one of those Minnesota. Minnesota not
one of the final three, and Sham says that Katie
has no desire to go to the Twin Cities.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal, big deal.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Big deal, big dealer.
Speaker 10 (34:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I think it's a little deal, right, I think it's
a little deal. I don't know why the Twin Cities is.
Do people think they're Kevin Durant away? They need another score?
I don't necessarily. I mean, look, would he help them?
I think he would, But I also think that Mike
Conley may be over the hill and they need better
point guard, play better guys to play off the ant man.
(35:20):
I don't know, Like I think the idea that Minnesota
because their clothes has to add a piece, I don't Yeah,
A little deal.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal, that
we don't have a firm word on Giannis's future in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I'm gonna say little deal if Milwaukee knows and they're
shopping him, great job by them by not letting it
out there. And this is kind of part for the
course with Giannis where he doesn't appear to be a
drama guy. So either he's told them he didn't want
to go into and he's there for whatever they got
to do, rebuilding with a little it out for however
(36:04):
long he's out for, or they're gonna move him. But
I just I gotta think this all tracks because he's
not drama, They're not drama. And not hearing anything definitive
is a great way to run a business. It's just
bad for us as consumers of that news.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Big deal, little deal or no deal, that the Knicks
deal don't have a coach, But what you talked about
with Rick Buker.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Little deal, don't think it matters right now, get the
right coach. Don't just get a coach you haven't drafted yet.
The draft is not going to change this little deal, all.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
Right, Big deal, little deal or no deal that ABC
Willer are the starting lineup intros tonight prior to Game five.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I think it's a big deal.
Speaker 10 (36:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You know they use all of these moments, which is
an in arena moment to have more ads and some more,
but you do miss some of the traditional starting laps,
like I don't know if you did this when you
were a kid. Did you ever do the introductions and
introduce yourself when you're playing, oh little kid? Yes, somehow
(37:10):
that's gone away now. Part of it is all of
the intros are completely over the top, right, and they
have video shows and laser shows whatever. I think it's cool,
but I don't think it's a gigantic I'll go a
little deal. Don't think it's check.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Out all right?
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Finally, big deal, little deal or no deal that sho
hey Otani will pitch tonight for the first time BEG
since twenty twenty three, BEG huge.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
He was an elite pitcher. Second time he's had Tommy
John surgery. You know, he's working towards potentially being ready
late postseason. Last year. Miss is big, I mean as
good a hitters he is. He's close as a picture,
or he was before he heard his elbow a second time.
And that is game time.
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Game.
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It's a Monday, and we're excited to have you. Excited
to have you in. Hey, welcome in. We got an
NBA game tonight. Will not be the last NBA game
of the year, Hey, really important. Won't be the last
NBA game of the year. But it's getting later early,
(00:49):
getting later early. And the Pacers they had an unbelievable
opportunity to put the thunder in a bad way and
could not do it. We'll get you ready for Game
five as the As the show rolls on, Rick Brooker's
going to join us school talk. Some NBA trades. Sub
Desmond Bain has been traded, Raphael Dever's been traded. The
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US Open had uh it was complete carnage yesterday, but
did have I thought a super exciting ending, and I was,
you know, we we're gonna do love and hate at
top of next hour. I hate myself because I was
one hundred percent wrong on one thing regarding the US Open.
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So this should be a really good show, should be
a very interesting show. Before we get to tonight's NBA,
let's talk about yesterday's WNB or or Saturday's WNBA. So
Caitlin Clark had well, look, she had herself a good game,
but more than anything, had just this thirty eight seconds
(01:51):
of pure basketball ecstasy right where she's coming down hitting
logo three after logo three, And you know, most of
this world has been put on notice because of it.
And it sparked a good conversation because now we have
tangible proof of what the American sports viewer thinks of
(02:13):
the WNBA without Caitlin Clark. Keep in mind that in
her first game back from injury, she has thirty two points,
nine assists, eight rebounds, She's seven to fourteen from three
point range, and yeah, she did have seven turnovers. She
was not perfect. She was a plus five. Her team
won by was it fourteen points? I think fourteen points,
(02:35):
But it sparked a bigger conversation because the ratings were
less than half of what they are with her once
she was out. Here's Caitlin Clark talking about that thirty
eight seconds where she that she had late in the
first quarter that broke the internet.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I took one in transition. That's kind of like where
I like to get to early and it's always good
to see the ball go through the hoop. And then
I came down and shot another one. Then I came
down and shot another one and saw three in a
row go in, So that gives you a lot of confidence.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Here's her head coach four point Guardner and writes Stephanie
White talking about having Clark back.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well, don't we always expect that kind of game from Caitlin.
I knew her adrenaline was going to be high to start.
I mean, she's been itching to get back out there.
She carried us in the first half, and then everybody
else carried us in the second half. And I thought
her decision making was great, outstanding, especially that last four
minute stretch or whatever it was that she was on
the floor, did a really good job of getting everybody involved.
(03:36):
And that's what she does.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, that is what she does. That is what she does. Okay,
So there's a woman named Rachel Demita. Rachel, I believe
she's a former basketball player. She's like an influencer. She
played at Old Dominion. Didn't play with Old Minion. The
band I like, played at Old Dominion, which is a school.
I think they're in the Colonial. I don't know anyway.
(04:01):
Her husband is Andre Robertson, who's formerly played for the Thunder,
had a bad knee injury, then played overseas. So she's influencer.
She had a podcast, She has a podcast, and I
think she libels herself as a WNBA reporter. I think
with CBS Sports. I'm not sure. Anyway, here's Rachel Demita
trying to explain from her perspective while there were drops
(04:25):
while Kaitlyn Clark was out.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I hope you guys don't mind. But the news was
just announced that WNBA TV ratings are down more than
fifty percent since Kaitlin Clark's injury, and it was also
reported that the Indiana Fever television viewership is also down
over fifty three percent. A lot of people stopped watching
because they are boycotting the WNBA. They don't want to
(04:49):
give viewership to any other teams or any other players,
whether they like other players on the team or not,
because of how the media and the league itself has
handled Kaitlin Clark, how they have treated her fans.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I mean, that's kind of a new one to me.
I had anybody heard about that previously. I mean, usually
when you do a boycott and it picks up steam
and it affects ratings this greatly, one would I just
one would think one would think that that boycott would
(05:27):
be one that we knew about or heard about. Right,
That's that's what That's what people, anybody, I think reasonably
would think. But Rachel to me to acting like, well,
that's the reason the ratings are down. No, we like
watching her play, period. We don't like or relate to,
(05:50):
or have a desire to watch most anybody else play.
The ratings that are left, that's your classic w NBA
core base that has been there probably for twenty five
years and has grown in incremental pieces over time. But
(06:12):
the fifty percent that you lost, that's the Caitlin Clark effect. Period.
Stop and until you just go okay, start there, until
you start at that very point where you realize, okay,
fifty percent of the people are only watching to see
(06:32):
basically what she did Saturday. Then you can properly market
what you have as a sports league, and you know
it's it's fascinating. I'm a basketball guy. I played high
school basketball, I played college basketball, I played professional basketball.
I've covered it, I now coach it. It's very much
(06:55):
part of who I am as a person. Hey, my
dad was a high school coach, became college coach, became
AU coach, travel ball coach, and mentored so many And
I would just tell you that, like when you grew
up in a basketball family, the WNBA has struggled for
a long time. But I don't know how many times
you have to say this. People only care about Caitlin
(07:16):
and the thing that I find to be when I
watch the game, when I watch how she walks, how
she carries herself was this year is what we hoped
she would be last year. And I would also tell
you that I think the best thing that happened to
her is one not getting selected to the Olympic team
(07:38):
last year and probably getting injured this year because what
she has to deal with, and when I say deal with,
maybe that's not the right term. What she endures on
a daily basis. I don't care about the constant scrutiny.
It's just a lot of attention. And she went from
playing college ball to play in the WNBA and probably
needed a break and need to recalibrate her game. And
(07:59):
now that she's reached calibated her game and it fits
a little bit more of the WNBA model. Last year
she was square peg, round hole. This year it's round,
round peg, round hole, and she's different, She's dominant, She's
taken another step. The most improving you make in college
is freshman is sophomore year offseason. The most improving you
(08:19):
make as a professionalist between your first and your second year.
Because you don't know what you don't know. You don't
know how to train, you don't know how you travel,
you don't know how you eat, you don't know how
your team it's gonna treat you, how the refts are
gonna treat you, how the opponent's gonna treat you. And
then in year two, you know all these things, they
become easier and then you become the better because of it.
(08:43):
I mean this when I say this, Like Caitlin Clark
was one of those. She had other worldly talent, and
she had what the kids call aura last year, and
there was some substance, but it was a lot of
she's going to be great. She's not great yet, but
she's it's going to be great now. She's great now,
(09:03):
She's great shooting percentages, confidence, knowledge of where to get
in the court, how to avoid get herself out of trouble,
not get herself in a foul trouble, how to communicate
with teammates, and honestly for the fever, what coach to
put around her, with players to put around her. It's
all going to be better in year two because you're one.
(09:23):
You just don't know what you don't know? You know,
all right, stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Well go ahead, Dan, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
No, that's okay.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
I just wanted to just add something in because I'm
curious on your thoughts about this. I think it was
the most important WNBA game she's played in her career.
And the reason I say that is a lot of
what you said is this leap from year one to
leap to year two in what she's done in the
you now know what you didn't know previously, And it
(09:55):
was one of the questions that I had about the
Caitlin Clark on would this rise continue, would would the
league be able to catch up at all? And obviously
they haven't, but to be able to come in make
a viral moment in a ninety second span upon her
(10:17):
return against the defending WNBA champions who were unbeaten to
that point. Like, there will be games later on in
her career that she plays and playoff games that will
be more important, but I think to this point this
was the most important game that she played in her
career because of everything you kind of laid out in
the first eleven minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Sure, sure, I'm okay with that most important in WNBA career.
Like it sounds a little strong when it comes out
of your mouth, and then you go back and you
track it and you're like, I'm up, I'll buy that.
I'll buy that. I mean, I think there was a
little bit when she came when they came off the
Olympic break too. I thought that was important. But I
(11:00):
don't know if there was one individual game that was
as big as this, right, and then again, like if
you're a if you're a hater, a naysayer, and she
doesn't play well, or she doesn't play after going to
several of the Pacers' finals games, you know, like, oh,
well she's good enough to go to the but she's
not good at the play and blah blah blah blah blah.
So yeah, I think when I initially heard you say that,
(11:21):
it sounded like hyperbole, and then when you supported it,
I started to think about it.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I don't think you're wrong, and there will be bigger games.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But yeah, right, you're just talking to this point up
up until this point, Sabby, what'd you think? I know,
you're you're a kind of resident Caitlin Clark beat reporter.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Well, yeah, I mean this. There will be bigger games,
but this one was huge because remember they lost the
Liberty at home by two, and then then she had
to exit for several games because of her injury. So
she comes back the Liberty are still undefeated and then
they end up winning by fourteen, and she just puts
on this amazing first half show. It was coming back
(12:00):
from the injury. It's spot as good of a game
to play that you could hope for.
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need to know about the Kidd and Clark effect. Right,
this is it, This is it kind of in a nutshell,
(12:30):
Jay Stu, how old are you? You're fifty two now,
fifty two? Fifty fifty two?
Speaker 8 (12:37):
Right, I'm twenty two years old, fifty two year old
white male.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Fifty two year old white mail. It's a Saturday afternoon
in the summer in southern California. How is the weather Saturday?
Speaker 8 (12:48):
Oh, it's a little too hot for me up in
Santa Coarita. But it was one of those typical southern
California June sunny days.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Just a perfect day, chamber of commerce day as they
caught in someplace.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
Lots of options outside. What were you doing in my
air conditioning living room on my couch watching every second
of the Caitlin Clark game. God bless Sam for caring
if the fever won or not. I never care about that.
There was thirty eight seconds of her making those threes
(13:20):
where I literally stood up and fist pumped a grown
man fist pumping on my couch on a sunny Saturday.
That is why I tuned in to kitln Clark and
I think of what And it didn't take long until
you started to see it on social media. Everyone started reposting,
is this is the unicorn? This is what we tune
(13:41):
in for? It really was fun.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I couldn't send any better. Right, the fact that on
a Saturday afternoon, when you have baseball options, outdoor options,
Lake Beach Hike.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
We missed the Oakmont as well. What a third round?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
It was us open taking place, just pure carnage there
all these other things going on. He's watching the WNBA
game two teams that I mean, couldn't pick everybody else
on the team out of a lineup, right If they
were sitting next to him on his couch and they
said their WNBA players, you'd be like, Okay, that's the
(14:17):
power of what she's doing.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
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Speaker 1 (14:29):
It's The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So the
Pacers were up big and Oklahoma City comes back and
wins the game. Late in the game, there's several calls
at first half. I thought some calls went against the
Indiana Pacers despite the fact they were at home. Late
in the game, Shake Gildess Alexander makes it beautiful fade
away in the left baseline and if you watch the
(14:52):
replay right, looks like he pushed off, looks like he traveled.
There was no call. Of course, Scott Foster's on the game,
but he calls Scott Foster the extender, the extender, and
he's one of the few NBA officials who everybody knows
his name. He's got a lot of heat, especially on
social media because Oklahoma City won because there were a
(15:15):
couple of missed calls. Here's he's Here's head coach Rick
Carlisle on Scott Foster.
Speaker 10 (15:22):
I think it's awful what some of the things I've
seen about about the officiating and Scott Foster in particular.
I know Scott Foster for thirty years. He's a great official.
He's done a great job in his playoffs. We've had
him a lot of times, and the ridiculous scrutiny that's
(15:44):
being thrown out there is terrible. An unfair and unjust
and stupid agree.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I agree, and I just I'm not going to make
it a habit of calling out people in media who
I'm friends with or friendly with, but I think those
are the people that it looks the worst for. It
just does you know, It's like you're in order for
(16:14):
that level of conspiracy to take place, too many people
would have to know, and all it takes is one person,
one person to know what they're not supposed to know,
and the entire league is cooked. So no, there is
no grand conspiracy. There is no way of setting you know,
(16:35):
there's not some way which Adam Silver guarantees that it
will go a certain number of games. That simply is
not true. And anyone who says otherwise is just making
up things because it's really easy to make up things
in the media and in social media these days, way easier.
It's harder to hide, easier to make things up. So
(16:59):
it doesn't mean that he's a perfect official. It doesn't
mean it was a perfectly officiated game.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
By the way, Ben Mathen, who had an unbelievable game
in Game three, he missed two gigantic free throws. I
think he missed three or four down the stretch. I
know he missed two gigantic free throws under two minutes
to go. So what are we actually doing here? We're
acting like Scott Foster is the reason that Oklahoma City
(17:25):
won the game. Pacers misshots, missed free throws and couldn't
and when they had a lead, they couldn't keep their
foot on the throat of the Oklahoma City thunder. That's
the story. And this is somebody who has no I
don't even have to support, have no dog in the fight.
Watch basketball, no basketball. Didn't like a couple of no calls,
(17:46):
But I'm not gonna sit there and go they were
cheating calls. That's bull for people who say it, especially
people who work in the media. But this is also
just another reason why you can't pay attention to social
media because people just don't know what They just don't know.
Rick Buker join us ask his opinion around the corner. First, Uh,
let's get my man Dan Byron here. Get a quick
(18:06):
update Dan, anybody got Doug.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
In addition to tonight's Game five, Sham's just reported that
apparently ABC has listened they will have starting lineups this
part of the broadcast tonight. However, in the tweet to announce.
Speaker 11 (18:21):
It, it was specifically stated that it's the first time since
twenty thirteen in the NBA Finals that the starting lineups
will be a part of the pregame broadcast for tonight's
Game five tip off tonight eight thirty Eastern Time from
Oklahoma City.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Following a report over the weekend, Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yes, classic like social media where you get somebody who
hasn't paid attention. I love that, Adam Silver said, like
they were people were talking about like, hey, whatever happened
to those Larry O'Brien. I mean, what's the trophies, Lario branhrossing, Yeah,
the Larry O'Brien Trophy is like, yeah, we haven't had
those in like a decade. Because the stickers people slip
on the stickers.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Yeah, I thinyd the mid court sticker like I could
not stand it. And they only did it for a
couple of finals. It was just more of not having
any signis whatsoever on the court, like even you know,
near the mid court stripe or anything, but anyway.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Matter, I mean, look, and so they super imposed and
people freaking out about being superimposed. It's like, yeah, hey,
I'll just I just go ahead.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
I'll just say this. You have three different courts, four
different courts during the regular season. Why can't you make
a specific finals court?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Right?
Speaker 9 (19:30):
You mean you don't need to.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Make a finals court. They come in segments. All you
gotta do is take it exactly, paint that segment. It's
the Doug Gottlieb Show, It's Fox Sports Radio. It's Monday. Uh,
it's that Tonight is going to be Game five of
the NBA Finals. Who better to catch up with than
Rick Buker from Fox Sports one and Fox Sports dot
Com covering all things NBA. Buke, there's there's you know,
(19:55):
social media works and really all forms of me. When
you have a Scott Foster official in the game and
what some feel like or questionable calls at the end
of a game, you get all kinds of conspiracy theories.
What's your take on the end of Game four?
Speaker 12 (20:14):
I thought there were mistakes made by Indiana in the
final two minutes and forty one seconds. I'm certainly not
going to put what transpired there on Scott Foster. I
thought that the Pacers did get a tough whistle in
the first half, and Rick Carlisle apparently feeling like comfortable
(20:35):
with the score maybe and thinking I may need my
challenges later, this is probably going to be a close game.
Opted not to challenge any of.
Speaker 13 (20:43):
Them, you know.
Speaker 12 (20:44):
The only one, the only debatable one was in the
final minutes that I could see was the shot by
Shake Gildes Alexander that gave Oklahoma City its first second
half lead. But based on the liberal interpretation of what
a gather step is and how loose they are in
(21:10):
calling step backs, I don't I don't know that he
would have won that. I would have liked to have
seen him challenge that and seen where it would have gone.
But other than that, my feeling was that the Pacers
were victims of their own hands. They made far too
(21:32):
many mistakes. Their execution wasn't good. They reached in too
many situations. Look, the referees demonstrated, let's let you know
how they were going to call it early on, and
I don't know that the Pacers adjusted and took that
into account in terms of how they played. So I'm
not going to I'm not going to put this on
(21:54):
Scott Foster. I thought it was a tough whistle early on.
I thought there were a number of plays. Number of
calls that and looking at them at replay clearly went
the wrong way. But that's why you have challenges, and
certainly that's not where the game was decided. I thought
the game was decided in the third quarter. Actually at
the end of the third quarter, when the Pacers led,
(22:15):
had their biggest lead by ten, had an opportunity should have,
I believe, should have expanded it to sixteen or eighteen
at that point and made it really difficult for Oklahoma
City to mount a fourth quarter comeback. And Carlisle had
a gas Obie topping and what appeared to be a
gas Pascal Siakam and an ineffective TJ. McConnell and an
(22:39):
ineffective Andrew Nemhart, and he didn't make any changes. He
wrote it to the end, and they scored one point
in the final two minutes. Instead of it being seventeen,
it was seven. And you just got the feeling like
the thunder, felt like they dodged a bullet.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yep, I agree, you got I got a step on
him when he got him down, and yeah, I thought
he traveled. I thought he pushed off. But again, well
we've seen enough of those not be called you know,
and we've seen enough not be called to understand probably
why they weren't called. And look, you miss Ben Mather
and missed two free throws too. I mean, you can't
(23:15):
understand that he.
Speaker 12 (23:17):
Missed three or four. Yeah, in three or four And
even like in the final with seven seconds left, he
could have fouled new Door and and didn't, and the
ball swings to Shay and and and them hart uh
and then is forced to foul him. And I look,
the game was probably out of reach at that point
(23:37):
because you had two fouls on on on inbounds plays
where okay, so you got free throws and and possession
of the ball. So the game was already decided. But
that was just a microcosm for me of the little
mistakes that Indiana made. I just got the overall sense,
whether it was from Rick Carlisle or the Pacers, that
(23:59):
they've felt like, oh, we've got this, we got them,
and didn't show enough respect for the fact that the
Oklahoma City Thunder were a sixty eight win team and
that if you had an opportunity to put them in
a deep hole, you needed to do it rather than
think that, you know what, we're just gonna as we have,
(24:20):
as we've proven we're the better executing team in the
final minutes, they decided to play that game, and and
when you don't fully respect an opponent, you often you
often pay the price. The only other other call that
I looked at that that would suss and I didn't
see it in real time the replay was the turnover
(24:41):
by Halliburton where it looked like Dork gave him a
shove in order to get the ball. That's the only
other other other whistle that I saw where I was thinking, Okay,
they missed one in the final minutes.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Stet Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, what do
you make of the Desmond Bane.
Speaker 12 (24:59):
Try that The Orlando Magic are looking at it and saying,
we've we've got a crazy number of first round picks
and we want to go for it now. We think
we're we think we're one player away from from making
this happen, and we need to kind of clear up
our almost an embarrassment of riches. I was surprised at
(25:22):
the number of picks, to be honest with you, unprotected
first round picks. But I think the way they're looking
at it is, you know what we expect to be
really good. And we look at the UH and and
and therefore, you know, how good are those picks going
to be? And uh and the and the Eastern Conference
(25:43):
is wide open, like nobody knows what the Boston Celtics
are going to be. Nobody's buying the Milwaukee Bucks right now.
Philadelphia seventy six ers, I mean, go down the line.
I think they're looking at it and looking at how
how how they've played the last year two and are saying,
you know, the one thing that we're missing, the big
one thing that we're missing is three point shooting, and
(26:09):
Desmond Bane can certainly give us that and gives us
a very tough physical backcourt between jal And Suggs and
Desmond Bane. And so I think they just decided, you know,
we're going to go for it because at this point
we have a bunch of young players, like we can't
(26:29):
all the picks that we have, We're not going to
be able to utilize them all. So I think they
probably gave almost practically gave away a couple in this case.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Uh, where are we with Kevin Durant in regards to
the likelihood of him being traded and destinations.
Speaker 12 (26:46):
Well, the interesting you know, the report is that Houston,
San Antonio, and Miami Heat are his preferred destinations. As
we know with star players, they generally picking from the
teams that they want to go to, and so you
know who can make the best deal or how much
(27:08):
that he directs like I want to go to this
particular place. I mean, it really comes down to if
it's those three, both Houston and San Antonio can make
better offers for KD than than than Miami at this point.
That said, at least as starter kits for what Phoenix is,
(27:32):
I assume is looking to rebuild. That said, I believe
that the best place for KD would be among those
three teams would be Miami. The absolute best place would
be for me would be Denver, and I'd be willing
to move Jamal Murray in order to make that happen.
And I would sell Phoenix on the idea that we're
(27:54):
going to give you the point guard you guys have
been looking for since Chris Paul left town, and and
the money that Jamal is making comes close to what
KD is that it wouldn't be a one for one,
but it could be fairly close. And I love the
idea of Aaron Gordon, Nikola, Jokic and k d as
(28:17):
being the core of my Denver team. I think if
they had that core, I put them right there as
being capable of playing with anybody in the West, and
I probably favor them regardless of what Oklahoma City does
in the next week.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Wow, Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, that's
the voice of Rick Buker New York Knicks head coaching
job still reports that Jason Kidd is the guy, but
they continue to get turned down, and then of course
the internet has fun with it. You know that the
Bucks offered up Doc Rivers, only the Knicks refused this time.
Like you've heard all of those what's the reality to
(28:56):
where they are in their head coaching search?
Speaker 12 (28:59):
I mean, they're they're they're searching for an answer right now.
I do believe that while the Jason Kidd thing was
turned down, I would not be surprised if we end
up revisiting that. It really comes down to. And I
haven't had a chance to talk to Jason or anybody
in his camp yet.
Speaker 13 (29:20):
But I I could see where he pushes the needle
and tries to make make that tries to reopen that
from his end, because it wasn't Jason Kidd rejecting the request,
it was the Dallas Maverick saying we're not going to
let you talk to our guy. And uh, and then
(29:40):
it comes down to are they willing willing to give
up a pick or is Dallas posturing in order if
we do give him up, then you're gonna have to
give us a little bit more than than maybe was
originally a thought.
Speaker 12 (29:52):
So that's where I would expect I would expect that
to go. But look, Uh, every DM that I've ever
talked to always has a list in his pocket of
the head coaches that he would hire if he could,
his wish list. And it's regardless of whether he has
(30:15):
a coach that he likes at the time or not.
They always have that. And the way the Knicks have
approached this would make you think that they that they
didn't have a wish list like that, because even if
you look at the guys that they've supposedly requested interviews from,
they're all different. They're all they like, they're just across
(30:39):
the board. They don't make a whole lot of sense
for what the New York Knicks have and where they are,
So it's hard to predict what they're doing when one
you don't we've got multiple people in the front office
that put out information, you don't know which one to trust.
(31:00):
And two, the proof is in the way they've approached this,
which is a scattergun approach. It just does not fit
with every other coaching search that I've seen. Look, I
thought from the very beginning, if you're the first place
I would go is Taylor Jenkins. So I think he
got the short stick in Memphis, and I think he
demonstrated that with the scoring point guard. He knows how
(31:24):
to run a team like that, and I know that
he had the respect of his players until the front
office undercut him and brought in some assistant coaches to
run the kind of offense that the front office thought
that they should run. That's the first place that I
would have gone, And maybe the second would have been
not Chris Finch to the Minnesota Timberwolves for his assistant coach,
(31:46):
Michael Nori because Norrie, because we've got a chance to
see him coach that team in the playoffs, and I
think that from what I know about his personality, I
think he'd be able to handle the New York market.
Those would have been the first two places that I
would have gone, and not in an array of coaches
who have current jobs and you have to get permission
(32:07):
from their teams in order to just talk to them.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
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I'm on Doug gottlib Show Fox Sports Radio. Oh we
got love and hate from the weekend up coming at
the top of the hour. I guarantee that there's some
love and some hate from Dan Byer regarding the US Open.
I wonder which side he'll take or he'll take both sides.
(33:38):
But before we get to any of that, you know
we should do, let's get to Game Time with Dan Live.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
This is Game Time game on the Doug Gottlieb Show,
So you.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
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Yeah, I wanted to tell you about the preset option,
but you took it, took care of it yourself.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
Today is big deal, little deal, no deal.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Big deal, little deal or no deal? Doug that Kevin
Durant doesn't want to go to Minnesota. This was a
report today from Shams on the heels of him narrowing
his finalists down to apparently three teams, but previously there
were five teams mentioned one of those Minnesota. Minnesota not
one of the final three, and Sham says that Katie
has no desire to go to the Twin Cities.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal, big deal.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Big deal, big dealer.
Speaker 10 (34:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I think it's a little deal, right, I think it's
a little deal. I don't know why the Twin Cities is.
Do people think they're Kevin Durant away? They need another score?
I don't necessarily. I mean, look, would he help them?
I think he would, But I also think that Mike
Conley may be over the hill and they need better
point guard, play better guys to play off the ant man.
(35:20):
I don't know, Like I think the idea that Minnesota
because their clothes has to add a piece, I don't Yeah,
A little deal.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal, that
we don't have a firm word on Giannis's future in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I'm gonna say little deal if Milwaukee knows and they're
shopping him, great job by them by not letting it
out there. And this is kind of part for the
course with Giannis where he doesn't appear to be a
drama guy. So either he's told them he didn't want
to go into and he's there for whatever they got
to do, rebuilding with a little it out for however
(36:04):
long he's out for, or they're gonna move him. But
I just I gotta think this all tracks because he's
not drama, They're not drama. And not hearing anything definitive
is a great way to run a business. It's just
bad for us as consumers of that news.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
Big deal, little deal or no deal, that the Knicks
deal don't have a coach, But what you talked about
with Rick Buker.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Little deal, don't think it matters right now, get the
right coach. Don't just get a coach you haven't drafted yet.
The draft is not going to change this little deal, all.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
Right, Big deal, little deal or no deal that ABC
Willer are the starting lineup intros tonight prior to Game five.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I think it's a big deal.
Speaker 10 (36:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You know they use all of these moments, which is
an in arena moment to have more ads and some more,
but you do miss some of the traditional starting laps,
like I don't know if you did this when you
were a kid. Did you ever do the introductions and
introduce yourself when you're playing, oh little kid? Yes, somehow
(37:10):
that's gone away now. Part of it is all of
the intros are completely over the top, right, and they
have video shows and laser shows whatever. I think it's cool,
but I don't think it's a gigantic I'll go a
little deal. Don't think it's check.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Out all right?
Speaker 6 (37:24):
Finally, big deal, little deal or no deal that sho
hey Otani will pitch tonight for the first time BEG
since twenty twenty three, BEG huge.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
He was an elite pitcher. Second time he's had Tommy
John surgery. You know, he's working towards potentially being ready
late postseason. Last year. Miss is big, I mean as
good a hitters he is. He's close as a picture,
or he was before he heard his elbow a second time.
And that is game time.
Speaker 10 (37:54):
Game.
Speaker 9 (37:55):
This is game time on The Doug gott Leaf Show.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
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