April 17, 2025 • 36 mins
Doug reacts to the recent comments by Aaron Rodgers on the Pat McAfee Show about some of the stories told about him this off-season. Doug weighs in on the latest Caitlin Clark controversy. Doug welcomes former NBA player Olden Polynice onto the show to preview the NBA playoffs. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "I Feel A Draft".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio? Too
much energy behind that, maybe a little bit, but you
gonna scare me? What's up America? How you doing the
Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live? But today we're in the
Iarheart Studios in Madison, Wisconsin. No, not in Madison County.
(00:39):
No bridges here, but we're trying to build bridges in
the basketball community in Wisconsin. Okay, we got a good
amount to get to. How bad? How bad have those
games been? Oh yea yuy? Like I'm watching These are
not very competitive game. These are not great. Watching the
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Bulls get blown out at home and then uh and
then watching the Mavericks take down Sacramento with the final
with their final game for Sacramento this year. And I
thought that was really interesting, right that Sacramento fired their
GM right after the game, like guess the darn Fox
move didn't go over well. But before we get to
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the hoop stuff, let's get to the football stuff of
the day. Aaron Rodgers has done it again. His appearance
on Pat McAfee has taken over all of sports media talk,
and rightfully. So here's a first ballot Hall of Fame,
multi MVP Super Bowl champion player who does not have
a job, and we're trying to figure out does he
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actually want to have a job. So there's a bunch
to it. Let's get to Aaron speaking for himself. Okay,
And obviously people want to talk about the Jets thing
and how that ended. We'll get to that, and I
do think it relates to the Steelers. But here's Aaron
Rodgers talking with McAfee about his visit to the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Personally, I wanted to see what it was like there,
see the facility, get to meet on more in person.
Let's get a glimpse, a snippet of what what life
would be like in Pittsburgh. So I thought it was
important to go see it in person. And I also
want to do it as quietly as possible, So you
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want to.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Do it in person. He wanted to see for himself.
He want to do as quiet as possible, which it
can't be quiet when it's Aaron Rodgers. Here's Rogers talking
about the Vikings.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
There's been a lot of narratives that have not been
anywhere near accurate. Ben was on the show talking about
me waiting around for the Vikings.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
That's not accurate either. I've known Kevin forever.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I've known Kevin O'Connell since we used to work out
in San Diego.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
County, in North County.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I've known him for seventeen eighteen years, and we got
a good friendship. So we talk outside of just you
know this offseason. We keeping test during the season, so
we've had good communication.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Okay, so he's had good communication, right, they worked out together,
they know each other well. I thought this was interesting, right,
that the whole idea of how much money he would
play for.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I had a lot of great conversations with a lot
of teams. But I've been straight up with these teams
from the start about where I was at, you know,
starting with.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
The money thing.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I told every single one of the teams I talked to,
you know, bein't about the money.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I'll play for ten MS. You know, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I never once said I need a multi year deal
of thirty forty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I said, I played for ten.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Sounds like a good deal, right, you know? I thought
it was really interesting in telling when I want you
to listen to what Rogers said about his last meeting
with the Jets before he played for you. Also listen
to what Rogers what he says when he is asked
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by the jets new head coach if he wants to
play football.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I figured that when I flew across country on my
own dime, that there was going to be a conversation.
And twenty seconds in he goes, I mean literally, I'm
talking to the GM about something. And he leans to
the edge of his sheet and goes, should you want
to play football?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And I was like, yeah, I'm interested.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And he said we're going a different direction at quarterback.
And I was kind of shocked. Now, not shocked because
I didn't think that was a possibility. Listen, of course
they want to move on. That's totally fine, but shocked
because I just flew across country.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
You could have told me this on the phone.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So I said, huh, and he goes, we just want
to know how you want it released the messaging and
I said why and then he said, I don't want
to be up in front of the room saying something
and have guys looking back at you interesting.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
And I said, what does that even mean?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Are you assuming that I would be in the back
of the room during the team meeting undermining what you're saying.
I said, you don't know me, and he said you
don't know me, and then I said exactly, which is
why I flew across the country to have a face
to face meeting with you.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
To talk about my experience with the JITs.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
What I thought was going to be a couple hour
meeting turned into like a fifteen minute meeting and I
walked out of there.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I think it's amazing, right, that's amazing. What Aaron is
dealing with is a perception battle, and what he's trying
to do is win the reality battle. And it's really
hard because how he has been perceived overshadows any sort
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of reality for the life that he's lived. Again, you know,
my dealings with Aaron, he was great. But when I said, hey,
it'd be the most Aaron Rodgers thing ever for him
to sign with the Steelers, when the NCAA tournament starts,
everybody out of their head, because that's everybody's perception of Aaron,
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whether it's real or simply we're just taking from the
previous things he's done in his career. You know, where
he says he doesn't want attention, yet everything he does
gets attention. I do think his response to do you
want to play football? And I'm open to it is
not the answer anyone's looking for. And again, Aaron's perspective is, Hey,
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I'm just being honest, like do I want to play football? Yeah?
But like what's the setup here? You know, what's my role?
What's the offense? Like I got to know kind of
some particulars here. It's not just a blanket. Do you
want to play football? I want to play football? And
the yeah, but and the answer. I was thinking of
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this when I heard that answer, and I realized he
had not yet committed to playing to the steel for
the Steelers. I imagine that answer going over poorly with
Mike Tomlin because this is a couple of years ago.
But Mike Tomlin, he kind of coined a phrase that
I use everybody used. Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
We didn't wait their circumstances. No, we weighed our circumstances,
not only the tangible element of our circumstances, but the
intangible quality that makes up team. Like I mentioned, when
we moved him, we had an opportunity to get value
for him, and so that was entertaining and interesting to us.
But also, to be quite honest with you and blunt,
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Melvin no longer wanted to be here. And for us,
we prefer volunteers as opposed to hostages.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We want volunteers, not hostages. So when a coach or
a GM says, hey, do you want to play football,
the only answer is yes, not I'm open to it.
We don't want hostages. Eh yah.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Yah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Somebody asks you if you want a job, the only
answer is yes. And then in terms of particulars and
all that stuff, well then you can kind of work
that stuff out. But the second you say, they're like,
I'm moving on. But yeah, the Jets look like a
clown show. That shouldn't be a surprise. It looks like
they had a head coach that wanted to call him
in just to kind of be the just I mean,
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it feels like like Aaron Rodgers feels like, why do
you even do this. This is a joke, but I
think they wanted to make Aaron Rodgers gravel. Hey man,
you want to be here. You kind of got to
be over the top in terms of your level of
respect for what we did in Detroit. And that ain't
Anon Rodgers. That's not knowing you. And as much as
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it's really easy to beat up on Aaron Rodgers because
he has not been decisive in any of these decisions,
you hear that story, and again there's a lot of
different ways it can be perceived. But if all of
that is true, if that is how it went down,
pay his own flight, flew back there, wanted to talk.
They're like, yeah, we just want to release you. I
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get that you want to do it face to face.
I actually understand that firing somebody over the phone is
not the way anybody wants to do it. The other
thing you could have done with you the Jets was
get on a plane and fly out there and see
him yourself. That's the right way to do it. But
that's why the Jets are the Jets. Period.
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Speaker 2 (09:36):
Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio, op Olden Paul And
is going to join us up coming in about ten minutes. Hey,
can we talk about that time list? Okay? So time
does there one hundred most influential people in sports or
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in life? Which is it? And again I haven't. No
one's picked up a magazine in fifteen years, right, one
hundred most influential people in sports? Okay, one hundred most
influential people in America or in all of life, in
the entire world. Okay, so most influential people. Okay, And
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Caitlin Clark was their most influential person a year ago.
She was Athlete the Year, but she's not among the
most influential people in America? Is that correct? On their list?
Speaker 7 (10:45):
That is correct? Jalen Hurts is on that list.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
What has Jalen Hurts influenced us to do? I'm just asking.
I mean, I only know this not because I am
not because I tried to buy tickets. But this is
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from three days ago in the sports business journal. The
Indiana Fever raised their season ticket prices and they're officially
sold out for season tickets. How about that they raised
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the prices thirty eight percent from a year ago and
they're sold out. The numbers for last year's WNBA Draft
were at an all time high I believe three times
that of this year's draft. The numbers for the final four.
The past two years have been at all times high,
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all time highs I believe four times what they were
this year. And the Indiana Fever have sold out their
season ticket packages for the entire season. So here's the thing.
Time Magazine like, you're obviously doing it to try and
make a point or to get attention. But what is
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that point? And why did I Why did I bite
and give it attention? I mean to call you idiots.
I don't know if that does Does that give them that?
Does that win awards? Does that get out of boys
that I'm like, you're dumb. Oh, way to go, You're dumb,
You're blind. Brianna Stewart is on this list? Is that right?
Speaker 7 (12:43):
Brianna Stewart and the FISA Collier they both developed the
what does it call it? Unrivaled?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The the full court three on three league that nobody watches.
That's awful that they play in.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
To be honest, there's a second tier of the league
they do one on one.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Is there? Yep, uh yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I just.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I don't know. What do you guys think that the
point of it is? Why would they take her off
that list or not put her on the list? Jase,
do give me your hypotheses.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
I just don't think it plays into the narrative of
their politics to acknowledge someone like Caitlin Clark. I think
Kitlyn Clark, and this has nothing to do with anything
she has said or done, is associated with somehow the
right wing political party in our country. We saw that
play out all summer long. All the right wing blogs
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aggregates were all about Caitlin Clark and it became this
racial thing. The four or five athletes on the list
are Jayalen her, Serena Williams, some Moan Biles, the FISA Collier,
and Breonna Stewart.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Okay, Sam, what do you think.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
I don't know what changed in the last four months
from December to now. Again, I'll go back to what
the I don't know straw men that Colin Cowhard quoted.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
It's saying like.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
You know, oh, well, she was on for twenty twenty
four and now it's a new year, but that doesn't
really make sense. Four months ago, she was the Time
magazine Athlete of the Year, and so to not have
her on there's residual carryover. She's still she was just
on Dave Letterman. I mean, she's still making headlines, she's
still making change, she's bringing money to WNBA. So I
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don't know what changed in the last four months to
leave her off out of one hundred people. She's your
athlete of the Year, then she should be on the list.
If there are five or six other athletes that are
on that list, well.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Not just that. Again, they've sold out their season tickets, right,
do you think there's any other reason they sold out
their season tickets.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
No, it's Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Correct, it's unheard of they play in an NBA arena.
If I just I grow, I grow super super frustrated
right over stupid people, And I think Time Magazine you
are stupid people, because whatever your feelings are about whoever
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you think supports Kaitlyn Clark or whatever political alliances are,
the WNBA had retracted to playing in smaller venues smartly,
so like again, like unrivaled they play I don't know,
is that where I don't even know where they play that,
But what they do is all the seats are like
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dark and they have this like purple tint so you
can't see that. Nobody watches and nobody goes. It's like
a gym, like five hundred people can sit in, but
you can't tell how many people are there. So it's
a television show. It hides it. The WNBA had retracted
to these smaller venues smartly, so instead of or they
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have the they put the tarp down so you can't
up in the upper deck. If they play in an
NBA arena, the Fever play in the same arena I
believe as the pacers that don't they play in is
it the Dainbridge, Bainbridge or whatever, ga Bridge, Gainbridge and
they're sold it out like what is actually wrong with you?
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And again I I don't like to be this guy,
because what happens is when you say what I'm gonna say,
they go.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Oh, you're a reight bigger, You're a reg biger.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'm not. I have voted Republican one time in one
at actually one about Richard H. Luthenthal. I think his
name is in Connecticut, like he lied about being in
the military repeatedly, and he still, by the way, represents
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Connecticut and he's actually pretty good at his job. But
I was just like, dude, I just make up that
you're in the military, Like no, no, of IM sorry,
but I'm a I'm a radical centrist, generally verily left leaning.
But the idea that Caitlyn Clark, because she's white and
from the Midwest, represents something nefarious is offensive to me.
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And the fact you can't have her on this list,
not because she's a great ballplayer, who even cares. It's
the most influential people there has never been in the
history of women's basketball a more influential person than Caitlyn Clark,
period stop. I didn't say she's the best player I've
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ever seen. But that is not what the award is for.
That is not what the list is for. It's we've
reached dumb dumb time, dumb dumb time, and this is
and as a member of the media, and again, both
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sides of the media suck. They suck when you can't
just be honest about stuff, right, like when you just
can't be honest about what an abject disaster the tariffs
have been thus far, Like Fox News, I'm sorry, I
can't watch you and be and take it. I can't
take you seriously. But the same goes for like, we
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can't put Caitlin Clark. She's she's the second most influential
woman in America. The most influential would be Taylor Swift.
I don't think anybody would argue with that. You might
be able to find I know there's Elf Cosmetics and
they have Alicia Keys and Elf cousedx is like their
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stock is like through the roof, right. So if you
want to say Alicia Key's fine, she's awesome, she's beautiful,
she's fantastic. If you want to have her on the
list ahead of Kaitlyn Clark, that's fine. The WNBA was
the punchline to every person's sports joke until Caitlyn Clark
came along. And now she's filling up arenas and making
people watch and talk about women's basketball it had never
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and will never happen again, and creating some false narrative
that she represents something that she has never tried to
represent nor like again there's been a I just it's
just super frustrating. What are we actually doing here? So congratulations,
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Time Magazine this is the first and last time we
will mention you because there is no more magazines, or
there are no more magazines. I don't know are no
more magazines. And you lost any credibility when you made
a woman your athlete of the year. And then it's
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a pretty simple easy layup that she's one of the
most influential people, let alone women in the United States.
You don't list her as one of the top one
hundred influential people, and you list to other WNBA players
who you couldn't pick out of a lineup if there
were only two of them in the lineup. Start Gottleib Show,
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Speaker 7 (20:31):
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Speaker 2 (20:38):
Polonies are Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio NBA analysts.
We played fifteen years in the NBA. He joins us
in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. The
playing tournament has been mostly a snoozefest, But do you
think it's a win for the league, like a good
idea we should keep doing.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
The playing is has been awesome in my opinion. You know,
they took meaningless games pretty much and turned them into
a moneymaker. I mean, we used to just have seven
and eight seeds. Now they dropped dadded two more teams,
nine and ten and turned it into a mini tournament.
So I thought it was genius on their part, and
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it kind of gave players something to play for, which
I thought was the thing when you signed the contract
as a professional athlete, that you just laid hard and
did things you were supposed to do. But apparently that's
not the case. So you know, that's what we are.
They had to do something, and the play was it
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because you know, teams were tanking and doing all kinds
of crap that's not conducive to a good product. So
I thought, again, from a monetary standpoint, I thought it
was genius.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Okay, from a play standpoint, as.
Speaker 9 (21:56):
A genius, no, not really, because you know, I'm giving
bad teams an extra opportunity to get in there, you know,
and it's unfortunate in a way. Me personally, I would
always I've always said this, give me the best sixteen records,
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regardless of conference, and then we battle it out and
we could even go you know, top two or top three.
You know, it's like they get a buye if you
want to do all that. I don't care, but I
want the best sixteen records. I don't want the Eastern Conference,
as bad as it is sometimes to be rewarded with
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a playoff spot. And then the West, you know, is
so top heavy that you know, teams with better records
in the East, they don't make the playoffs. That's that's
crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Okay, let let's get to the actual playoffs. The least
discussed team that looks really, really good that people are
struggling to buy into is the Clippers, one of your
former teams. How viable are they in the playoffs?
Speaker 9 (23:08):
I don't, Doug, I still don't believe in the Clippers.
I think they are snake bit. I think they are cursed.
I just don't believe in them at all. You know,
they can look good. We had lob City, Oh my god,
they were on ESPN every night and everything else, and
then playoffs come. Something happens. And I'm still under that,
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you know, mindset, because as great as Kawhi's been this year,
you know, healthy, I still think there's something that's gonna
hit because it's it always does. And again, seven game
series are way different than playing Toronto one night and
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somebody else the next so or Sacramento or Atlanta or Orlando, whatever.
But I think, you know, this first round matchup is
not a score gun conclude. Everybody's thinking that all because Denver,
you know, got rid of Mike Malone. It doesn't matter.
They're still a good team, a really good team. I mean,
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they had a winning record when they fired him three
games left in the season. So I'm not going to
just dismiss the Denver Nuggets with Mitola Yokis. You know,
tomorrow Murray hopefully he'll get he'll play, and they are
a formidable team. They are only a year away from
a championship. So it's absurd to me to think that
the Clippers are just going to run through the Denver Nuggets,
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especially with Denver having home court advantage.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I agree with you, what about the Lakers? How big
a buyer are you? People are dismissing the Timberwolves, and
yet last year this time people were talking about Anthony
Edwards being the second company of Michael Jordan. Where do
you stand in that series?
Speaker 9 (24:49):
It's the same thing, you know, similar to you know,
like again with the Denver Now it's the minnesot Timberwolves.
They think that the Lakers have a bye basically, But
the Timberwolves, I'm like, wait a minute, they're the ones
that knock the Denver Nuggets out, and so to me,
they long, you know, athletic guys. Go Bear the last
week and a half put some of the best numbers
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he's had in Minnesota. And I mean the guy that
no one's talking about is the X factor to me
is Julius Randall. Who do the Lakers have to defend
Julius Randall. That's gonna be the key because I know
Lebron's not touching any part of that, and so I'm
not buying into them. I'm not buying into the Lakers.
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I mean, it would be great for the NBA if
the Lakers could advance and keep advancing. But again, Minnesota,
because Anthony Edwards has a chip, you know, he has
that chip on his shoulder. He wants to prove that
he's one of the best, and I think he's going
to show it in this series. It's la you know,
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they're gonna enjoy that aspect of it if nothing else.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Show here on Fox Radio, Olden poliniesays, join us in
our Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider Golden State Warriors gonna win,
they advance or take it on the Houston Rockets. Rockets
have a lot of youth, unproven, but a great depth
of roster. Golden State has been way better since bringing
on Jimmy Butler. How viable is Golden State in the playoffs?
Speaker 9 (26:19):
I'm taking the Warriors. I like the Warriors against the Rockets.
I know what the Rockets defensive schemes are gonna be,
and I know the Warriors are ready for You know,
They've got a top block that I have, Dylan Brooks
on staph and Steph has abused them over the years,
and to me, they're just too young. I don't think
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the Rockets have enough and the experience of the Warriors
on top of the fact that they have playoffs. Jimmy
Butler now is insane to me that you know, they
have the guy that come playoffs, elevates his game two
and a whole other level. And Steph Curry still Steph Curry,
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ladies and gentlemen. So to me, as long as he's
on a team, you have a chance. Like Jimmy Butler's said, so,
I'm definitely buying into the Warriors advancing.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Let's go to the Eastern Let's go to the Eastern
Conference playoffs. How big a buyer are you into Cleveland.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
I don't think Cleveland gets out of the East. Boston
still the team to beat. I mean, I like what
Kenny Atkins has done, but it was already made team.
So again that's why to the whole Coach of the Year,
I would give it to JB. Bickerstaff because what he
did with Detroit more so than what Kenny Atkinson has
done with the Cavaliers, because like I said, they were
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already built. And so to me, you know, Donovan Mitchell,
you know, all star, Darius Galen, all star. But again
I'm not when they shots don't go in, they start
to panic a little bit, and that's where my decision
is made. I just don't know how they're going to
react if shots don't drop, you know, especially early in
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like Game one, and you know all the team has
to do is sneak one out of there. So I'm
not buying Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Steug Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Radio, So you're
not buying Cleveland. That means it's Celtics in a walk.
They'll get back to the finals.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
No matter what.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
I believe the Celtics will get back to the finals
unless Minnesota figures out a way to I mean not Minnesota,
unless Milwaukee figures out a way to like really step
up their game. You know, Dame Lillard I heard got cleared.
He's not on the blood thinners anymore, so he's going
to be crucial to them. Bobby Porters came back from
the suspension, so that's good for them. I like the
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whole Kyle Kuzner trade. That gives them a different dynamic.
So I think Milwaukee might be the surprise team out
the East.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Milwaukee. Yeah, you saw Damian Lillard not clear for Game one,
but here to resume physical contact, so he'll probably get
back to playing in the playoffs. That changes the East altogether,
right if you had Dame And we don't know how
sharp he'll because he hasn't played games in a bit,
but at least he'll be kind of fresh and rested,
so it's it's gonna be crazy, crazy interesting. Last thing.
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Last thing, Lakers, are you a buyer?
Speaker 9 (29:26):
I'm not on the first round? I really am not.
I want to be, but I'm not because I'm a
big Luca fan. I want to be, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
How come.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
It's just.
Speaker 9 (29:43):
Because it's gonna come down to a situation and you're
gonna have Lebron and Luca trying to you know, they're
gonna go back to their old ways. You know, the
honeymoon was cute and dandy. You know, Luca got traded
with passing the ball and all that. But I do
believe that habits are hard to break. You know, Luca
has that habit of coming down and just shooting a
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thirty five foot with no rebounders in anyway in sight,
and so I just I'm not really sure if it
was enough time for them to figure all of that out.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
All right, it's good feedback, h ohp can't. We're gonna
watch some of these playoff games together at some point.
Just pick your brain and load up on your knowledge.
We really appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
Oh my pleasure man. Anytime, let's hang out.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
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Speaker 2 (30:38):
Every day. At this time, we like to turn it
over to the brain of When Dan Byer in play game,
this is game time.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
On the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
All right, Doug, it's a Thursday.
Speaker 10 (30:56):
The game today is.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 10 (31:03):
You're on the verge of the NBA playoffs. Let's go
back in time your most memorable NBA playoff series from
your past. So it doesn't have to be one that
stands out above all. Who could be a first Round,
could be an NBA Finals, but most memorable NBA playoff
series from your past. Jason Stewart, you pick first. I
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will pick second. Doug, you got the third pick in
Sam you have the swing picks at four and five. Jason,
you're on the clock.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
You've added salt to an open wound. And the reason
why this was open recently is because I've been watching
the Boston Celtics documentary, which is very much recommended viewing.
Please watch it. It's pretty amazing and they get into
details on the nineteen eighty four series, which I was
on the other end of. I was a twelve year
(31:55):
old chick. Hern was the soundtrack of my childhood. In
your Lakers Cellball Network, Celtics and Lakers. I cried at
the end of the Celtics Lakers series because Boston won. Now,
remember that was Gerald Henderson stealing the ball in Game
two as the Lakers were about to take a two
to nothing lead at the Garden, Gerald Henderson steals the ball,
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ties it at the end and the Celtics didn't look back.
It was also serious when McHale tackled Kurt Rambus, but
very memorable and sad, Dan, thank you.
Speaker 10 (32:31):
Here, You're welcome. The eighty four Finals. Off the board,
I am up at number two, and there's personal ones
and then there's other ones that you're just like wow
in watching. So I'm going to go two thousand and
seven Eastern Finals in the wow because I truly think
that was the arrival of Lebron James in taking over
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that series with the Detroit Pistons and just completely being
a one man show in that game. I'm in I
believe in Detroit and game five of that season, but
just at two thousand and seven, because then they ended
up going to the finals, were ousted by the Spurs,
but that was our first real taste of Lebron and
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Lebron rising to that next level. So I'll go, oh,
seven Eastern Finals, Cavs Pistons.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Man Gos.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
There's so many good ones.
Speaker 10 (33:30):
Seed a series, Yeah, any series in the last fifty
years that you can remember any just one.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I'm gonna go mean, what was the one? Shoot shoot? Shoot? Shoot,
shoot Shoot? There's so many good ones, man, I think
it's I don't know the year, and you can help
me out with this, Dan, I believe the Suns won
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the most games in the regular season. They played the
Spurs in I don't know if the Western Conference Finals
were semi finals. It was the game that led to
the games. Game five, I want to say in San Antonio,
and the Sons won the game, but towards the end
of the game, I think it was Boris d Out.
(34:20):
Don't quote me on that one. Could have been somebody else.
He like stuck out his knee on Steve Nash and
like Charlie Horst him and Amari Stotdemeyer and who else.
Somebody else got up off the bench or the Suns
stepped onto the floor, so they were suspended for Game six.
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And Stottomeyer were on the same they were on the Suns, yes,
so as DL and Amari Stottemeyer. They both stepped on
the floor. The Sons then lost home court advantage in
Game six, lost in Game seven, never reached the NBA Finals,
and it was all because of a semi dirty play
of the Spurs, which may have been Robert Rory. I
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don't even remember that was Robert was the Robert Rory?
How about that? And I don't know that series to
me sticks out because we always look at the Suns
as a regular season team and they never won an
NBA championship. I think they would have won the NBA Championship.
They couldn't get by the Spurs. They couldn't get by
the Spurs because they would have had a home court
advantage in Game six and they didn't have their two
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best interior players.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
All right, Sam, you've got two picks here, all right.
I will take the low hanging fruit. Give me the
twenty sixteen finals Calves coming back down from three to
one over the seventy three and nine Warriors. That one
is definitely most memorable for me. And then I'll take
as my second pick, I'll take the twenty eleven MAVs
and six over the Heatles in the finals, kind of
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shocking everyone.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Okay, all right, Doug, you're up at number six. Whatever
that series was where DJ steals the ball, right, that
wasn't the series you were talking about Jays two.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Was it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Where the Celtics stole.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
By bird?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
They passed the DJ, DJ lays the balls.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
Against the Pistons. Yes, there's half lit check stole the ball.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I think that was eighty six. I think it was
eighty six. Maybe it's maybe a seven. Sure that one?
Speaker 7 (36:14):
All right?
Speaker 10 (36:15):
It was heartbreak. But the Bucks in the Eastern Conference Finals,
losing to the Sixers. It's not a good memory, but
it is a memory.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
What about the Nuggets upsetting the one seeded Sonics. Yes,
in Mutumbo ninety four.
Speaker 10 (36:28):
Yes, that's game time.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
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What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio? Too
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Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live? But today we're in the
Iarheart Studios in Madison, Wisconsin. No, not in Madison County.
(00:39):
No bridges here, but we're trying to build bridges in
the basketball community in Wisconsin. Okay, we got a good
amount to get to. How bad? How bad have those
games been? Oh yea yuy? Like I'm watching These are
not very competitive game. These are not great. Watching the
(01:01):
Bulls get blown out at home and then uh and
then watching the Mavericks take down Sacramento with the final
with their final game for Sacramento this year. And I
thought that was really interesting, right that Sacramento fired their
GM right after the game, like guess the darn Fox
move didn't go over well. But before we get to
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the hoop stuff, let's get to the football stuff of
the day. Aaron Rodgers has done it again. His appearance
on Pat McAfee has taken over all of sports media talk,
and rightfully. So here's a first ballot Hall of Fame,
multi MVP Super Bowl champion player who does not have
a job, and we're trying to figure out does he
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actually want to have a job. So there's a bunch
to it. Let's get to Aaron speaking for himself. Okay,
And obviously people want to talk about the Jets thing
and how that ended. We'll get to that, and I
do think it relates to the Steelers. But here's Aaron
Rodgers talking with McAfee about his visit to the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Personally, I wanted to see what it was like there,
see the facility, get to meet on more in person.
Let's get a glimpse, a snippet of what what life
would be like in Pittsburgh. So I thought it was
important to go see it in person. And I also
want to do it as quietly as possible, So you
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want to.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Do it in person. He wanted to see for himself.
He want to do as quiet as possible, which it
can't be quiet when it's Aaron Rodgers. Here's Rogers talking
about the Vikings.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
There's been a lot of narratives that have not been
anywhere near accurate. Ben was on the show talking about
me waiting around for the Vikings.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
That's not accurate either. I've known Kevin forever.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I've known Kevin O'Connell since we used to work out
in San Diego.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
County, in North County.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I've known him for seventeen eighteen years, and we got
a good friendship. So we talk outside of just you
know this offseason. We keeping test during the season, so
we've had good communication.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Okay, so he's had good communication, right, they worked out together,
they know each other well. I thought this was interesting, right,
that the whole idea of how much money he would
play for.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I had a lot of great conversations with a lot
of teams. But I've been straight up with these teams
from the start about where I was at, you know,
starting with.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
The money thing.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I told every single one of the teams I talked to,
you know, bein't about the money.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I'll play for ten MS. You know, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I never once said I need a multi year deal
of thirty forty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I said, I played for ten.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Sounds like a good deal, right, you know? I thought
it was really interesting in telling when I want you
to listen to what Rogers said about his last meeting
with the Jets before he played for you. Also listen
to what Rogers what he says when he is asked
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by the jets new head coach if he wants to
play football.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I figured that when I flew across country on my
own dime, that there was going to be a conversation.
And twenty seconds in he goes, I mean literally, I'm
talking to the GM about something. And he leans to
the edge of his sheet and goes, should you want
to play football?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And I was like, yeah, I'm interested.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And he said we're going a different direction at quarterback.
And I was kind of shocked. Now, not shocked because
I didn't think that was a possibility. Listen, of course
they want to move on. That's totally fine, but shocked
because I just flew across country.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
You could have told me this on the phone.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So I said, huh, and he goes, we just want
to know how you want it released the messaging and
I said why and then he said, I don't want
to be up in front of the room saying something
and have guys looking back at you interesting.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
And I said, what does that even mean?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Are you assuming that I would be in the back
of the room during the team meeting undermining what you're saying.
I said, you don't know me, and he said you
don't know me, and then I said exactly, which is
why I flew across the country to have a face
to face meeting with you.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
To talk about my experience with the JITs.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
What I thought was going to be a couple hour
meeting turned into like a fifteen minute meeting and I
walked out of there.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I think it's amazing, right, that's amazing. What Aaron is
dealing with is a perception battle, and what he's trying
to do is win the reality battle. And it's really
hard because how he has been perceived overshadows any sort
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of reality for the life that he's lived. Again, you know,
my dealings with Aaron, he was great. But when I said, hey,
it'd be the most Aaron Rodgers thing ever for him
to sign with the Steelers, when the NCAA tournament starts,
everybody out of their head, because that's everybody's perception of Aaron,
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whether it's real or simply we're just taking from the
previous things he's done in his career. You know, where
he says he doesn't want attention, yet everything he does
gets attention. I do think his response to do you
want to play football? And I'm open to it is
not the answer anyone's looking for. And again, Aaron's perspective is, Hey,
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I'm just being honest, like do I want to play football? Yeah?
But like what's the setup here? You know, what's my role?
What's the offense? Like I got to know kind of
some particulars here. It's not just a blanket. Do you
want to play football? I want to play football? And
the yeah, but and the answer. I was thinking of
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this when I heard that answer, and I realized he
had not yet committed to playing to the steel for
the Steelers. I imagine that answer going over poorly with
Mike Tomlin because this is a couple of years ago.
But Mike Tomlin, he kind of coined a phrase that
I use everybody used. Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
We didn't wait their circumstances. No, we weighed our circumstances,
not only the tangible element of our circumstances, but the
intangible quality that makes up team. Like I mentioned, when
we moved him, we had an opportunity to get value
for him, and so that was entertaining and interesting to us.
But also, to be quite honest with you and blunt,
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Melvin no longer wanted to be here. And for us,
we prefer volunteers as opposed to hostages.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We want volunteers, not hostages. So when a coach or
a GM says, hey, do you want to play football,
the only answer is yes, not I'm open to it.
We don't want hostages. Eh yah.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Yah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Somebody asks you if you want a job, the only
answer is yes. And then in terms of particulars and
all that stuff, well then you can kind of work
that stuff out. But the second you say, they're like,
I'm moving on. But yeah, the Jets look like a
clown show. That shouldn't be a surprise. It looks like
they had a head coach that wanted to call him
in just to kind of be the just I mean,
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it feels like like Aaron Rodgers feels like, why do
you even do this. This is a joke, but I
think they wanted to make Aaron Rodgers gravel. Hey man,
you want to be here. You kind of got to
be over the top in terms of your level of
respect for what we did in Detroit. And that ain't
Anon Rodgers. That's not knowing you. And as much as
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it's really easy to beat up on Aaron Rodgers because
he has not been decisive in any of these decisions,
you hear that story, and again there's a lot of
different ways it can be perceived. But if all of
that is true, if that is how it went down,
pay his own flight, flew back there, wanted to talk.
They're like, yeah, we just want to release you. I
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get that you want to do it face to face.
I actually understand that firing somebody over the phone is
not the way anybody wants to do it. The other
thing you could have done with you the Jets was
get on a plane and fly out there and see
him yourself. That's the right way to do it. But
that's why the Jets are the Jets. Period.
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Speaker 2 (09:36):
Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio, op Olden Paul And
is going to join us up coming in about ten minutes. Hey,
can we talk about that time list? Okay? So time
does there one hundred most influential people in sports or
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in life? Which is it? And again I haven't. No
one's picked up a magazine in fifteen years, right, one
hundred most influential people in sports? Okay, one hundred most
influential people in America or in all of life, in
the entire world. Okay, so most influential people. Okay, And
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Caitlin Clark was their most influential person a year ago.
She was Athlete the Year, but she's not among the
most influential people in America? Is that correct? On their list?
Speaker 7 (10:45):
That is correct? Jalen Hurts is on that list.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
What has Jalen Hurts influenced us to do? I'm just asking.
I mean, I only know this not because I am
not because I tried to buy tickets. But this is
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from three days ago in the sports business journal. The
Indiana Fever raised their season ticket prices and they're officially
sold out for season tickets. How about that they raised
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the prices thirty eight percent from a year ago and
they're sold out. The numbers for last year's WNBA Draft
were at an all time high I believe three times
that of this year's draft. The numbers for the final four.
The past two years have been at all times high,
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all time highs I believe four times what they were
this year. And the Indiana Fever have sold out their
season ticket packages for the entire season. So here's the thing.
Time Magazine like, you're obviously doing it to try and
make a point or to get attention. But what is
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that point? And why did I Why did I bite
and give it attention? I mean to call you idiots.
I don't know if that does Does that give them that?
Does that win awards? Does that get out of boys
that I'm like, you're dumb. Oh, way to go, You're dumb,
You're blind. Brianna Stewart is on this list? Is that right?
Speaker 7 (12:43):
Brianna Stewart and the FISA Collier they both developed the
what does it call it? Unrivaled?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
The the full court three on three league that nobody watches.
That's awful that they play in.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
To be honest, there's a second tier of the league
they do one on one.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Is there? Yep, uh yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I just.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I don't know. What do you guys think that the
point of it is? Why would they take her off
that list or not put her on the list? Jase,
do give me your hypotheses.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
I just don't think it plays into the narrative of
their politics to acknowledge someone like Caitlin Clark. I think
Kitlyn Clark, and this has nothing to do with anything
she has said or done, is associated with somehow the
right wing political party in our country. We saw that
play out all summer long. All the right wing blogs
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aggregates were all about Caitlin Clark and it became this
racial thing. The four or five athletes on the list
are Jayalen her, Serena Williams, some Moan Biles, the FISA Collier,
and Breonna Stewart.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Okay, Sam, what do you think.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
I don't know what changed in the last four months
from December to now. Again, I'll go back to what
the I don't know straw men that Colin Cowhard quoted.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
It's saying like.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
You know, oh, well, she was on for twenty twenty
four and now it's a new year, but that doesn't
really make sense. Four months ago, she was the Time
magazine Athlete of the Year, and so to not have
her on there's residual carryover. She's still she was just
on Dave Letterman. I mean, she's still making headlines, she's
still making change, she's bringing money to WNBA. So I
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don't know what changed in the last four months to
leave her off out of one hundred people. She's your
athlete of the Year, then she should be on the list.
If there are five or six other athletes that are
on that list, well.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Not just that. Again, they've sold out their season tickets, right,
do you think there's any other reason they sold out
their season tickets.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
No, it's Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Correct, it's unheard of they play in an NBA arena.
If I just I grow, I grow super super frustrated
right over stupid people, And I think Time Magazine you
are stupid people, because whatever your feelings are about whoever
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you think supports Kaitlyn Clark or whatever political alliances are,
the WNBA had retracted to playing in smaller venues smartly,
so like again, like unrivaled they play I don't know,
is that where I don't even know where they play that,
But what they do is all the seats are like
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dark and they have this like purple tint so you
can't see that. Nobody watches and nobody goes. It's like
a gym, like five hundred people can sit in, but
you can't tell how many people are there. So it's
a television show. It hides it. The WNBA had retracted
to these smaller venues smartly, so instead of or they
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have the they put the tarp down so you can't
up in the upper deck. If they play in an
NBA arena, the Fever play in the same arena I
believe as the pacers that don't they play in is
it the Dainbridge, Bainbridge or whatever, ga Bridge, Gainbridge and
they're sold it out like what is actually wrong with you?
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And again I I don't like to be this guy,
because what happens is when you say what I'm gonna say,
they go.
Speaker 8 (16:43):
Oh, you're a reight bigger, You're a reg biger.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'm not. I have voted Republican one time in one
at actually one about Richard H. Luthenthal. I think his
name is in Connecticut, like he lied about being in
the military repeatedly, and he still, by the way, represents
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Connecticut and he's actually pretty good at his job. But
I was just like, dude, I just make up that
you're in the military, Like no, no, of IM sorry,
but I'm a I'm a radical centrist, generally verily left leaning.
But the idea that Caitlyn Clark, because she's white and
from the Midwest, represents something nefarious is offensive to me.
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And the fact you can't have her on this list,
not because she's a great ballplayer, who even cares. It's
the most influential people there has never been in the
history of women's basketball a more influential person than Caitlyn Clark,
period stop. I didn't say she's the best player I've
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ever seen. But that is not what the award is for.
That is not what the list is for. It's we've
reached dumb dumb time, dumb dumb time, and this is
and as a member of the media, and again, both
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sides of the media suck. They suck when you can't
just be honest about stuff, right, like when you just
can't be honest about what an abject disaster the tariffs
have been thus far, Like Fox News, I'm sorry, I
can't watch you and be and take it. I can't
take you seriously. But the same goes for like, we
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can't put Caitlin Clark. She's she's the second most influential
woman in America. The most influential would be Taylor Swift.
I don't think anybody would argue with that. You might
be able to find I know there's Elf Cosmetics and
they have Alicia Keys and Elf cousedx is like their
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stock is like through the roof, right. So if you
want to say Alicia Key's fine, she's awesome, she's beautiful,
she's fantastic. If you want to have her on the
list ahead of Kaitlyn Clark, that's fine. The WNBA was
the punchline to every person's sports joke until Caitlyn Clark
came along. And now she's filling up arenas and making
people watch and talk about women's basketball it had never
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and will never happen again, and creating some false narrative
that she represents something that she has never tried to
represent nor like again there's been a I just it's
just super frustrating. What are we actually doing here? So congratulations,
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Time Magazine this is the first and last time we
will mention you because there is no more magazines, or
there are no more magazines. I don't know are no
more magazines. And you lost any credibility when you made
a woman your athlete of the year. And then it's
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a pretty simple easy layup that she's one of the
most influential people, let alone women in the United States.
You don't list her as one of the top one
hundred influential people, and you list to other WNBA players
who you couldn't pick out of a lineup if there
were only two of them in the lineup. Start Gottleib Show,
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playing tournament has been mostly a snoozefest, But do you
think it's a win for the league, like a good
idea we should keep doing.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
The playing is has been awesome in my opinion. You know,
they took meaningless games pretty much and turned them into
a moneymaker. I mean, we used to just have seven
and eight seeds. Now they dropped dadded two more teams,
nine and ten and turned it into a mini tournament.
So I thought it was genius on their part, and
(21:21):
it kind of gave players something to play for, which
I thought was the thing when you signed the contract
as a professional athlete, that you just laid hard and
did things you were supposed to do. But apparently that's
not the case. So you know, that's what we are.
They had to do something, and the play was it
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because you know, teams were tanking and doing all kinds
of crap that's not conducive to a good product. So
I thought, again, from a monetary standpoint, I thought it
was genius.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Okay, from a play standpoint, as.
Speaker 9 (21:56):
A genius, no, not really, because you know, I'm giving
bad teams an extra opportunity to get in there, you know,
and it's unfortunate in a way. Me personally, I would
always I've always said this, give me the best sixteen records,
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regardless of conference, and then we battle it out and
we could even go you know, top two or top three.
You know, it's like they get a buye if you
want to do all that. I don't care, but I
want the best sixteen records. I don't want the Eastern Conference,
as bad as it is sometimes to be rewarded with
(22:38):
a playoff spot. And then the West, you know, is
so top heavy that you know, teams with better records
in the East, they don't make the playoffs. That's that's
crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Okay, let let's get to the actual playoffs. The least
discussed team that looks really, really good that people are
struggling to buy into is the Clippers, one of your
former teams. How viable are they in the playoffs?
Speaker 9 (23:08):
I don't, Doug, I still don't believe in the Clippers.
I think they are snake bit. I think they are cursed.
I just don't believe in them at all. You know,
they can look good. We had lob City, Oh my god,
they were on ESPN every night and everything else, and
then playoffs come. Something happens. And I'm still under that,
(23:28):
you know, mindset, because as great as Kawhi's been this year,
you know, healthy, I still think there's something that's gonna
hit because it's it always does. And again, seven game
series are way different than playing Toronto one night and
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somebody else the next so or Sacramento or Atlanta or Orlando, whatever.
But I think, you know, this first round matchup is
not a score gun conclude. Everybody's thinking that all because Denver,
you know, got rid of Mike Malone. It doesn't matter.
They're still a good team, a really good team. I mean,
(24:10):
they had a winning record when they fired him three
games left in the season. So I'm not going to
just dismiss the Denver Nuggets with Mitola Yokis. You know,
tomorrow Murray hopefully he'll get he'll play, and they are
a formidable team. They are only a year away from
a championship. So it's absurd to me to think that
the Clippers are just going to run through the Denver Nuggets,
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especially with Denver having home court advantage.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I agree with you, what about the Lakers? How big
a buyer are you? People are dismissing the Timberwolves, and
yet last year this time people were talking about Anthony
Edwards being the second company of Michael Jordan. Where do
you stand in that series?
Speaker 9 (24:49):
It's the same thing, you know, similar to you know,
like again with the Denver Now it's the minnesot Timberwolves.
They think that the Lakers have a bye basically, But
the Timberwolves, I'm like, wait a minute, they're the ones
that knock the Denver Nuggets out, and so to me,
they long, you know, athletic guys. Go Bear the last
week and a half put some of the best numbers
(25:11):
he's had in Minnesota. And I mean the guy that
no one's talking about is the X factor to me
is Julius Randall. Who do the Lakers have to defend
Julius Randall. That's gonna be the key because I know
Lebron's not touching any part of that, and so I'm
not buying into them. I'm not buying into the Lakers.
(25:33):
I mean, it would be great for the NBA if
the Lakers could advance and keep advancing. But again, Minnesota,
because Anthony Edwards has a chip, you know, he has
that chip on his shoulder. He wants to prove that
he's one of the best, and I think he's going
to show it in this series. It's la you know,
(25:53):
they're gonna enjoy that aspect of it if nothing else.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Show here on Fox Radio, Olden poliniesays, join us in
our Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider Golden State Warriors gonna win,
they advance or take it on the Houston Rockets. Rockets
have a lot of youth, unproven, but a great depth
of roster. Golden State has been way better since bringing
on Jimmy Butler. How viable is Golden State in the playoffs?
Speaker 9 (26:19):
I'm taking the Warriors. I like the Warriors against the Rockets.
I know what the Rockets defensive schemes are gonna be,
and I know the Warriors are ready for You know,
They've got a top block that I have, Dylan Brooks
on staph and Steph has abused them over the years,
and to me, they're just too young. I don't think
(26:39):
the Rockets have enough and the experience of the Warriors
on top of the fact that they have playoffs. Jimmy
Butler now is insane to me that you know, they
have the guy that come playoffs, elevates his game two
and a whole other level. And Steph Curry still Steph Curry,
(27:01):
ladies and gentlemen. So to me, as long as he's
on a team, you have a chance. Like Jimmy Butler's said, so,
I'm definitely buying into the Warriors advancing.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Let's go to the Eastern Let's go to the Eastern
Conference playoffs. How big a buyer are you into Cleveland.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
I don't think Cleveland gets out of the East. Boston
still the team to beat. I mean, I like what
Kenny Atkins has done, but it was already made team.
So again that's why to the whole Coach of the Year,
I would give it to JB. Bickerstaff because what he
did with Detroit more so than what Kenny Atkinson has
done with the Cavaliers, because like I said, they were
(27:42):
already built. And so to me, you know, Donovan Mitchell,
you know, all star, Darius Galen, all star. But again
I'm not when they shots don't go in, they start
to panic a little bit, and that's where my decision
is made. I just don't know how they're going to
react if shots don't drop, you know, especially early in
(28:06):
like Game one, and you know all the team has
to do is sneak one out of there. So I'm
not buying Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Steug Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Radio, So you're
not buying Cleveland. That means it's Celtics in a walk.
They'll get back to the finals.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
No matter what.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
I believe the Celtics will get back to the finals
unless Minnesota figures out a way to I mean not Minnesota,
unless Milwaukee figures out a way to like really step
up their game. You know, Dame Lillard I heard got cleared.
He's not on the blood thinners anymore, so he's going
to be crucial to them. Bobby Porters came back from
the suspension, so that's good for them. I like the
(28:45):
whole Kyle Kuzner trade. That gives them a different dynamic.
So I think Milwaukee might be the surprise team out
the East.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Milwaukee. Yeah, you saw Damian Lillard not clear for Game one,
but here to resume physical contact, so he'll probably get
back to playing in the playoffs. That changes the East altogether,
right if you had Dame And we don't know how
sharp he'll because he hasn't played games in a bit,
but at least he'll be kind of fresh and rested,
so it's it's gonna be crazy, crazy interesting. Last thing.
(29:21):
Last thing, Lakers, are you a buyer?
Speaker 9 (29:26):
I'm not on the first round? I really am not.
I want to be, but I'm not because I'm a
big Luca fan. I want to be, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
How come.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
It's just.
Speaker 9 (29:43):
Because it's gonna come down to a situation and you're
gonna have Lebron and Luca trying to you know, they're
gonna go back to their old ways. You know, the
honeymoon was cute and dandy. You know, Luca got traded
with passing the ball and all that. But I do
believe that habits are hard to break. You know, Luca
has that habit of coming down and just shooting a
(30:04):
thirty five foot with no rebounders in anyway in sight,
and so I just I'm not really sure if it
was enough time for them to figure all of that out.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
All right, it's good feedback, h ohp can't. We're gonna
watch some of these playoff games together at some point.
Just pick your brain and load up on your knowledge.
We really appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
Oh my pleasure man. Anytime, let's hang out.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Every day. At this time, we like to turn it
over to the brain of When Dan Byer in play game,
this is game time.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
On the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
All right, Doug, it's a Thursday.
Speaker 10 (30:56):
The game today is.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 10 (31:03):
You're on the verge of the NBA playoffs. Let's go
back in time your most memorable NBA playoff series from
your past. So it doesn't have to be one that
stands out above all. Who could be a first Round,
could be an NBA Finals, but most memorable NBA playoff
series from your past. Jason Stewart, you pick first. I
(31:24):
will pick second. Doug, you got the third pick in
Sam you have the swing picks at four and five. Jason,
you're on the clock.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
You've added salt to an open wound. And the reason
why this was open recently is because I've been watching
the Boston Celtics documentary, which is very much recommended viewing.
Please watch it. It's pretty amazing and they get into
details on the nineteen eighty four series, which I was
on the other end of. I was a twelve year
(31:55):
old chick. Hern was the soundtrack of my childhood. In
your Lakers Cellball Network, Celtics and Lakers. I cried at
the end of the Celtics Lakers series because Boston won. Now,
remember that was Gerald Henderson stealing the ball in Game
two as the Lakers were about to take a two
to nothing lead at the Garden, Gerald Henderson steals the ball,
(32:18):
ties it at the end and the Celtics didn't look back.
It was also serious when McHale tackled Kurt Rambus, but
very memorable and sad, Dan, thank you.
Speaker 10 (32:31):
Here, You're welcome. The eighty four Finals. Off the board,
I am up at number two, and there's personal ones
and then there's other ones that you're just like wow
in watching. So I'm going to go two thousand and
seven Eastern Finals in the wow because I truly think
that was the arrival of Lebron James in taking over
(32:53):
that series with the Detroit Pistons and just completely being
a one man show in that game. I'm in I
believe in Detroit and game five of that season, but
just at two thousand and seven, because then they ended
up going to the finals, were ousted by the Spurs,
but that was our first real taste of Lebron and
(33:15):
Lebron rising to that next level. So I'll go, oh,
seven Eastern Finals, Cavs Pistons.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Man Gos.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
There's so many good ones.
Speaker 10 (33:30):
Seed a series, Yeah, any series in the last fifty
years that you can remember any just one.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I'm gonna go mean, what was the one? Shoot shoot? Shoot? Shoot,
shoot Shoot? There's so many good ones, man, I think
it's I don't know the year, and you can help
me out with this, Dan, I believe the Suns won
(34:00):
the most games in the regular season. They played the
Spurs in I don't know if the Western Conference Finals
were semi finals. It was the game that led to
the games. Game five, I want to say in San Antonio,
and the Sons won the game, but towards the end
of the game, I think it was Boris d Out.
(34:20):
Don't quote me on that one. Could have been somebody else.
He like stuck out his knee on Steve Nash and
like Charlie Horst him and Amari Stotdemeyer and who else.
Somebody else got up off the bench or the Suns
stepped onto the floor, so they were suspended for Game six.
(34:41):
And Stottomeyer were on the same they were on the Suns, yes,
so as DL and Amari Stottemeyer. They both stepped on
the floor. The Sons then lost home court advantage in
Game six, lost in Game seven, never reached the NBA Finals,
and it was all because of a semi dirty play
of the Spurs, which may have been Robert Rory. I
(35:01):
don't even remember that was Robert was the Robert Rory?
How about that? And I don't know that series to
me sticks out because we always look at the Suns
as a regular season team and they never won an
NBA championship. I think they would have won the NBA Championship.
They couldn't get by the Spurs. They couldn't get by
the Spurs because they would have had a home court
advantage in Game six and they didn't have their two
(35:22):
best interior players.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
All right, Sam, you've got two picks here, all right.
I will take the low hanging fruit. Give me the
twenty sixteen finals Calves coming back down from three to
one over the seventy three and nine Warriors. That one
is definitely most memorable for me. And then I'll take
as my second pick, I'll take the twenty eleven MAVs
and six over the Heatles in the finals, kind of
(35:46):
shocking everyone.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Okay, all right, Doug, you're up at number six. Whatever
that series was where DJ steals the ball, right, that
wasn't the series you were talking about Jays two.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Was it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Where the Celtics stole.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
By bird?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
They passed the DJ, DJ lays the balls.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
Against the Pistons. Yes, there's half lit check stole the ball.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I think that was eighty six. I think it was
eighty six. Maybe it's maybe a seven. Sure that one?
Speaker 7 (36:14):
All right?
Speaker 10 (36:15):
It was heartbreak. But the Bucks in the Eastern Conference Finals,
losing to the Sixers. It's not a good memory, but
it is a memory.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
What about the Nuggets upsetting the one seeded Sonics. Yes,
in Mutumbo ninety four.
Speaker 10 (36:28):
Yes, that's game time.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
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