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February 7, 2025 • 39 mins

Doug Gottlieb and Dan Beyer close out the week on Media Row in New Orleans ahead of the Big Game! Doug and Dan break down why they agree with the voters' decision to give the MVP to Josh Allen over Lamar Jackson. Lions DE Aiden Hutchinson joins the guys to discuss the Lions impressive season. Newly crowned Defensive Player of the Year Patrick Surtain II joins the guys to dive into his historic season. Plus, the guys give their picks for the Super Bowl!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:51):
a lot to get to Dan Byer. We have eight
and Hutchinson is going to join us, we think momentarily.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
PS two.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Patrick certain, the second who last night was awarded Defensive
Player of the Year, will join us at forty after
the hour and I'm going to make the pitch to him,
Dan on your behalf, but on the World's behalf. Can
the Broncos throwback uniforms be their main uniforms.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I think we would all love that. I don't know
if it's really possible, but I think we would all
love that.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Agent of the Stars Lee Steinberg is going to join
us in the second hour of the show. Baje b
Media is going to join us as well. Of course,
he played in the NFL. He's with Good Morning Football
and oh yeah, by the way, he's a dear friend
of mine.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Akbar played at San Diego State.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
My brother's a coach first time round at San Diego State,
so he co hosts on the NFL network with Good
Morning Football. So oh, and I believe, I believe we
have a bunch of other things to discuss. We had
NBA basketball last night, Lakers play a Lakers one beat
the Warriors. Neither had their newest edition right, Warriors didn't

(02:05):
have Jimmy Butler and the Lakers still don't have Luka Doncik.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
We get some other NBA yaka yact to talk about.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
And then we had the NFL Awards, which were dominated
by a couple of things. Josh Allen's the MVP, patrickscertains
the defensive Player of the Year, and Bill Belichick has
shown in very short order he can recruit. He can
recruit right. So lots lots to get to. Let's let's

(02:32):
start with the MVP. Start with the MVP.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Was Lamar Jackson robbed Dan Byer.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
No, absolutely not, And I would actually say it shouldn't
have been as close as it was. I believe that
it was Josh Allen's award. I feel for what Buffalo
didn't have this season, which was a strong defense, weapons
on offense. They didn't have a bit of a running game,

(02:59):
whiching Cook. But there was so much more of the
load that Josh Allen had to carry. And so while
statistically he doesn't match up with Lamar Jackson, he received
four more first place votes than Jackson won the voting
by about twenty points or so. I felt that Alan
should have been the MVP by a larger margin.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I don't think our feelings are Lamar Jackson fatigue. I
can't say that I care a great deal. If we're
simply going to go buy wins and losses, then it
has to be Pat Mahomes at quarterback. That's not If
we're simply going to go buy stats, well, then that's different.
And I think he's a mix of great stats. Cut
down on the turnovers, right, because the big thing holding

(03:41):
Josh Allen back in the past was that he would
turn the football over all right, I mean, that was
the thing that was the limiting factor. And this year
he eliminated that. Twenty eight touchdowns only six interceptions. I mean,
you go back to even the first game of last

(04:03):
year when Aaron Rodgers goes down with the achilles injury,
the Jets nearly pull off the upset. Why because Josh
Allen forces things instead of you know, just throw it
away or just take a sack or just tucket and
run it. He improved, his efficiency, improved, his football intelligence improved,

(04:24):
and that allowed the Buffalo Bills to, you know, to
be a dominant team and have the second best record
in the AFC.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
And so I'm with you. I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I don't think it's all stats, like it's like one
of those to do all stats matter to some stats
matter to me. Wins and losses do matter, right, Like
you're not going to put a six to win five
win teams, best player in there, but they're all playoff teams.
But I think I'm with you. They didn't have a
great defense, but the number one determinant and who wins

(04:55):
and loses NFL games is was and has always been
who turns the ball over most. And he stopped turning
the football over. That was massive, massive growth. And they
did so after trading away arguably or inarguably their best
wide receiver. One of their other top wide receivers also
left by a free agency. And yet they they kept going,

(05:16):
they kept winning. It's a regular season award. I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
What I heard a lot about or read a lot
about on social media for those that are supporting Lamar Jackson,
and I get it. I actually think I'm fine with
him being first team All Pro quarterback Saquon getting the
Offensive Player of the Year from the Associated Press, which
he got last night, in Alan being the MVP. The
reason why I feel so strongly about what Josh Allen

(05:41):
did as opposed to what Lamar did was it actually
wasn't about what Lamar actually did. But I think that
the argument that we use for Josh Allen this year
was the argument that we used for Lamar last year,
and I feel people are trying to now say that
while Lamar Jackson had one of the greater statistic category
specifically passing of a quarterback with his rating that we

(06:03):
had seen in the NFL, highest passer rating in the
league historically one nineteen point six is up there with
the greatest of all of them, that's not what got
Lamar Jackson the MVP last year. So that criteria is
not a moving target. The criteria is what the criteria is.
You mentioned Patrick Mahomes and winning quarterback like he was
getting votes because of how the Chiefs were winning.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
That has never changed.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
He didn't receive any first place votes as part of it,
but Patrick Mahomes received some votes on ballots where I
think you and I never would have thought Patrick Mahomes
was a top five candidate for MVP.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
This is how the award goes.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
So why it should change this year for Lamar Jackson
doesn't make any sense to me because it worked for
him last year and now we're going to have a
moving target and say this is why it should go
to Lamar instead Josh Allen. I just don't believe that
Josh Allen stayed in my case earlier did what was
required of the NFL's MVP this year.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
And great, I wouldn't commend the NFL, like you know,
I'd never attend the NFL Awards dinner. They've created this
sort of oscars for the NFL, which is genius, right,
it's content. You put it on the NFL network, you know,
outside of live events, it becomes their highest.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Rated night of the year.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
But I at least they're doing it while football is
still important.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
You and I have talked about this before.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Major League Baseball announcing their awards like a month after
the World Series is played is among the dumbest things ever, right, Like,
we've already kind of mentally moved on once you even
get to the World Series, once it's October. But to
wait until after after the World Series, it's like whatever
they do it leading up to the Super Bowl. It

(07:43):
brings all of the celebs and all of the best
players in town and all the coaches in a town
for a reason. And I think it's a huge win
for the NFL to not just do it, but do
it during this kind of timely manner.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Doug.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Not only that, remember the NBA tried to do their
own sort of NBA on our show, and it was
such a failure that they haven't gone back to it.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Now.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
They announced them in the playoffs when a team hopefully
is still alive, they can hand the MVP out. Sometimes
it hasn't been the case, but now they have gone
back to their old way because doing it on June
twenty ninth, after a long season and after the NBA Draft,
people just don't have the energy and there's absolutely no
buzz with it. This leading up to the Super Bowl

(08:27):
works and it has us talking about it today. And
I will also say this in the conversation portion of it.
I think it's I think it's good for the league
that Josh Allen now has an MVP. I think that
now you have another guy in there and grand of
the league. Isn't fixing the MVP or the Most Valuable
Player award.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
We saw Chiefs fatigue.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Heck, there could be Ravens fatigue with Lamar Jackson if
he wins another one. This adds another another validation to
Josh Allen, who's already a superstar in the league.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Okay, then let's get to the Hall of Fame. Okay,
So they announced the four inductees which means they don't
have a full class, which, by the way, is probably better. Okay,
I disagree with one curious omission, maybe even two, but
at least it's not an entire day where the speeches

(09:15):
already go too long. But you start to get to five, six, seven,
eight people, you're like, it's an interminable length and it
doesn't get to recognize people.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Now, there are lots of.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
People that will say, if you don't get in as
a Hall of Famer your first time, you're not a
Hall of Famer. Plenty of people have said that, and
there's an argument to be made there, but somebody's gonna
have to be explained to me how Eli Manning is
not a Hall of Famer. And if you want to
say in comparison to Dan Marino, in comparison to Joe Montana,

(09:48):
in comparison to Tom Brady, like all right, I mean, look,
there is definitely an argument to be made if you
want to go, hey, the Hall of Fame is the
best to ever do it. If they he did that
in quarterbacks, there probably be seven or eight right now.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
But that's not what this Hall of Fame is. Can
we can we?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
You and I agree that Eli Manning ultimately is a
Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
We can agree on that, but it's a different category.
He's not a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
That is okay.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
But but what and that's what this year was about.
What about his career fell short of Jared Allen's career?
What about his career fell short of of Eric Allen's career.
I love that Sterling Sharp got in. He was the
best wide receiver in the NFL. His career was cut

(10:40):
short by injury, and I know it took him a
long time. And I think he got in the Veterans Committee.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yes, your committee.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
It's okay for you to point out, Hey, he's not
the level of Brady, he's not Leve of Montana, He's
not the level of the I would agree with you.
You and I will have no agreement, no disagreement there.
But that's like, is Jared Allen at the level of
Lawrence Taylor?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
No?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
No, No, but Jared all No. But he's not a
first ballot Hall of Famer. There is I differ.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
But if you're gonna put Jared Allen in the Hall
of Fame, why don't you put Eli Manning in the
Hall of.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Fame because of what you just said.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
You're comparing Eli Manning to the quarterbacks that are in
the in the Hall of Fame or that will go
into the Hall of Fame. You're not comparing Eli Manning
other those who have a Hall of Fame of just quarterbacks,
because that's.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
What the people about.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
My point is was there were.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Worse snubs last night than than Eli Manning. Oh so,
Adam Adam by, Yes, I agree, Adam V. Terr should
be melhn. I I think that you could make an
argument for Luke Keigley. I thought he was maybe borderline.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I'm okay, okay, yeah, I'm with you on that one.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Louke Keigley was as good a middle linebacker as I
can remember in the last twenty five years. Like he
was just aud and kind of like Terrell Davis who
TV's going to join us in the pod right, kind
of like Terrell davis career short. Now, his career wasn't
as short as Trell Davis's was, but is cut short
because of concussions because of yours, but not because of
poor play. That guy was an absolute studte stud. I'm

(12:11):
with you on those two. But what about why why
would you put Jared Allen in for Eric Allen in
and not put Eli Manning in when you're going to
put Eli Manning in eventually.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Because just I think that there is a difference between
first ballot Hall of Famers. Eric Allen hasn't played since
two thousand and one. It's been a long wait for him.
He's on the ballot and he's waited year after year,
So him going in is not necessarily the same level

(12:44):
as Eli being that first ballot Hall of Famer. I
was actually surprised Eric Allen came in. We were just
talking about remembering our days. I remember Eric Allen is
a good corner Maybe we were Dion that just if
you weren't, Dion, you weren't. But I remember Eric Allen
is a is a very very good cornerback. But did
I think Hall of Fame back in the day? No,

(13:04):
not necessarily. Voters apparently felt the same way. Well, it
was so odd about this, Doug, and I think the
point that maybe you and I can meet at is
the decision to not fill the class. It's the first
time in twenty years they haven't used the maximum spots
to put someone into the Hall of Fame. So while
you may vote for Eli Manning being in and using

(13:25):
that extra spot.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
I would vote for somebody else.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
The fact that they didn't do it, and in previous
years maybe put guys in that didn't deserve it because
they were so hell bent on filling a class and
now they realize people don't want to sit around for
five hours and listen to speeches. I don't know if
that's the reason why we only have four players in.
There were only three from the fifteen finalists of the
modern era. Sterling Sharp, as you mentioned, wasn't even a
part of the regular group. Mike Congren is the only

(13:50):
coach up. He didn't get in. So it's a very
interesting vote last night. And it's not just Eli, it's
the whole class, and it's that you put Jared Allen
and er Allen as part of the conversation. But I
just think when it comes down to Eli, he's compared
to the Marinos, the Brady's the Breeze. Who's up for
enshrinement next year. It's probably a chance Eli doesn't get

(14:10):
in next year, Drew Brees is going in.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I think that's I think that's where we're at with Eli.
So here's here's the question we have, can we we agree?
We have one first ballot Hall of Famer playing in
this weekend Super Bowl, and there's one other one who
didn't win the MVP, but I think is probably going
to be in that conversation in seven or eight years,

(14:37):
which would be Seguon Barkley.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
I would I would expand it by one. I think
Travis Kelcey will just toss a ballot a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Kay.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I think I'm there with you. I think I'm there
with you.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I do have one listen, I'm We talked about Antonio
Gates a lot this the last couple of days.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, it is interesting.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Gates did pop positive for a ped It was later
in his career, but that one did get kind of
curiously overlooked by the committee. I would love to know
what the conversation if that came up in the conversation.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I bet you it came up last year because I
felt there there was an outrage last year. Maybe they
just needed to get past it and now he's in.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
All right, Well, let's uh, let's catch up with a
pro bowler who had an unbelievable year which is cut
short by injury. Aight Hutchinson joins this year on the
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio and and ad,
thanks so much for taking time as a Lion, as
a guy who was part of this unbelievable resurgence of
the Lions. What's it like to watch or know these

(15:43):
two teams are going to play thinking, I'm sure there's
lots of times this year where you thought the Lions
would be part of this game.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Yeah, you know. I mean it always sings when you're
not in the in the championship game, and you know
we had a real, real good shot of being in it.
And I think the injuries kind of just got the
best of us fan. You know, too many injuries on defense,
put a little too much pressure on our offense, and
you know you don't have a good game of the team,
and you know you find yourself too in an early exit.

(16:13):
So I think we're all just looking forward to next year,
getting healthy and getting this team back to where we
see ourselves.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Would you have been back if they were playing this weekend?
Would you have been back playing for the lines?

Speaker 5 (16:29):
You know, it's hard to say. I could have. I
might not have been, you know, I guess we'll never know.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Gave him the Jason Tatum that gave him the who
did Tatum copy on that?

Speaker 4 (16:40):
I can't remember, but I guess we'll never know.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Joining us on behalf of Panini, and I do have
a question, and this may be the kid and me
coming out, but I still buy cards to this day.
Are you a guy who does collect cards? Are you
a Penie card guy? Now that you're in the NFL?
Has it been lost on you? Where are you in
terms of collecting trading cards now that you've teamed up

(17:04):
with Panini?

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah? I mean being with Panini, it was really a
dream to see myself on a Paniti card and I
grew up collecting some of them as a kid. And
being on that card and being on this foot side
of things, it's so amazing. And they have such a
good crew over here at Panini, and they treat me
so well over these last few years i've been with them,
So it's really a great part of Ship.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Eight Nudgets. Enjoining us here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Was there any point that did you feel you guys
peaked at any point?

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Maybe too early?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I know you guys had just an awful rash of injuries,
but you were playing some top level A plus football,
you know, leading into Thanksgiving?

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Did that it all happen with this team this year?
You know?

Speaker 5 (17:50):
I think you always think you don't want to get
too hot too early as a team, But I think
we were so consistently dominant throughout the entire season in
light of all the injuries. But I think at the
end of the day, it's just it got a little
bit too much in the playoffs, you know. I mean
first play of the playoff game, our starting corner Meek Robertson,
who was playing nickel to start the season, broke his

(18:12):
arm and he just at that point, you see it
and you're like, dude, how much more can we take
as a defense? How many how many more guys we take?
Seeing out who will step them up? And I think
that was kind of the final, the final early domino
that went down, that kind of that kind of got
us in the end.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
What will the year?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
What would be like to get back together with this
defense when you have a different defensive coordinator this offseason.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
Yeah, I think it'll be great. I think it'll be great.
I think you know, we have we have a whole
bunch of different coaches on both sides of the ball,
and I think really our foundation is in the players.
It's in the players and with guys on offense, guys
on defense, and uh, you know, they could put anyone
in there to coach and we're gonna we're gonna dominate.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Aiden.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
How did it feel to be the hunted this year
because of the expectations that you guys had.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Was there a different feeling?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Was there a different mindset entering that role because for years,
the years and years the Lions were underdogs. Now people
expected you to be playing in this game. Was that
any different this season? Was that a different role for
you guys of being the hunted as opposed to hunting?

Speaker 5 (19:26):
Yeah, I mean it's it's amazing because it's you know,
you're getting everybody's best shot when when as we're the Lions,
now we're well one of the teams to beat in
the NFC, and so you know, you do get everybody's
best shot. So it really requires even more of concentration
during the week, even more preparations, even more you get
in that game. You know that this guy's can circle

(19:49):
in this game all year long because you know you're
the Detroit Lions. And I don't think that's that kind
of thing in years past. So it's special and I
think we all we love that feeling, but it's something
that it takes continuous work, year year to maintain that.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
What sucks when you get hurt is you got to
sit there and watch a lot more on the couch.
But when you do watch on the couch, now all
of a sudden you get to watch other people play.
I'm sure you've seen both of these two teams. The
defenses are outstanding. Uh what are you impressed by? Let
let's start with the Eagles. What impresses you by their defense?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (20:25):
The Eagles have been I mean ever since early in
that season when I believe they had a couple lost
or two early, they've been so dominant, you know, ever
since then and then Kansas City. You know, it's kind
of the tale of the entire year is them just
finding ways to win the end of at the end
of games, you know, and it's uh, has been the
prettiest for them sometimes, but I mean you can tell, like,

(20:47):
you know, they get in that fourth quarter and those
guys turn it up and I think it's all this
is going to go down to the last, the last possession.
It's gonna go, it's gonna go down to the fourth
quarter in this game, and who ever gonna win those
last few drives, it's gonna win the game.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Panini America is hosting Aid Hudginson, along with several other
NFL stars and prospects from the draft, at the Panini
Prism VP Lounge here in New Orleans ahead of Super
Bowl weekend. Let's do the other side. What gets you
just about the Chiefs defense? Well, I think now is
the defensive team. I know it's crazy with Andy Reid
and Patrick Mahomes, but what excites you when you actually
watch the Chiefs unit out on the field.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Yeah. Again, you know, it's been a I think it's
been a weird season for them, just they have all
these buzzer beater wins and all these crazy, crazy last
second comebacks or whatever it is. And so I think again,
I mean, their defense is is very talented. Both defenses
are extremely talented. But I think at this point, with
all talent on the field, it's just it's gonna come
down to who's gonna make those plays in the clutch moments,

(21:45):
like every Super Bowl is.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Ay Dutchess is our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio. What's the Dan Campbell experience
really like? You know, we just see through the prism
of social media and through traditional media, and obviously we
watch you guys play on Thursday, Sundays and Mondays, and
you can't help but be impressed, especially when we've watched

(22:11):
the Lions b you know, towards the bottom, not just
in the NFC North, with the NFC for years and
obviously now you guys are upper trajector. But what is
the Dan Campbell experience like for a player, especially a
star player like yourself.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Yeah, I mean, really, everything you see on the internet,
everything you see, you know, all the hype, all the
all the post game speeches like that is real.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
That is Dan.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
That is That's who he is. And I think his
authenticity is what we all really value in him as
a head coach. He's gonna tell us, he's gonna tell
us how he feels so that you have more back,
you know, and uh, it's not gonna sugarcoat anything. He's
not gonna he's not gonna bes with you. And I
think there's a lot of I mean, there's a lot

(22:56):
of grown men in this league, and I think people
appreciate when you know they can just be real with you.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Aiden Hutchinson living the dream as a pro athlete, living
the dream of seeing himself on a trading card again,
teaming up with Panini here at Super Bowl fifty nine,
hanging out at the Panini Prism VIP Lounge in New
Orleans here ahead of Super Bowl weekend. Aiden, thanks so
much of the time, and talk to you.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Thanks you guys.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Thanks all right, Aid Hutchinson, Dan, again, I don't we
don't always need to kind of filter words. I don't
think you would have played the Super Bowl, right, I
don't think so either now, because if you would have
played in the Super Bowl, you go like, hey, well,
what's likely you would have played?

Speaker 2 (23:32):
He'd be like one hundred percent. I've been played, Like I'm.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Good now, right because right now he will been getting
ready for the game and you can't get rid of
the game. Well then you know it's like, oh, which stinks,
a gruesome, gruesome injury and against the Cowboys on the road,
and that just began began kind of the downfall of
that defense, and so let's stink.

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so right now, the line right now on DraftKings Sportsbook
app is the Chiefs or a point a half favorite.
The totals forty eight and a half, and if you

(25:06):
go and check, there's a ton of fun props on
the DraftKings Sportsbook app. I view the game line as
a really really, really really simple way of looking yourself
in the mirror. No matter what you think about the officials,
what do you think about their offense, what do you
think about anything else? Are you actually going to pick

(25:29):
against Pat Mahomes and the Yiefs? Like you can do
it and you're not wrong? Like the Eagles top to
bottom on their roster, the Eagles are a more talented roster.
There's more weapons there offensively, right. Pichecko's a nice running back.
Saquon Barkley is the best running back in the league.
Travis Kelce five years ago, super e late. Now it's

(25:53):
so much mental and God and like, look, they have
some nice weapons, some good speeds, and they can doll
it up some. But if we're honest with ourselves, you
got two tremendous wide receivers in the piled up Eagles.
And though Jalen Hurts is not Pat Mahomes, he's played
and played well in a Super Bowl, and you know
there's there was a world a couple of years ago where.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
He's an MVP.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
So it's not like it's not like he's going against
the guy who can't throw a football. But Dan Byer, like,
I challenge anybody to say, like, are you really gonna
pick against the Chiefs and say yes.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
I know.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
That's the toughest part about it. And that's the great
thing is obviously about draft kings. If you don't want
to pick against Patrick Mahomes, you can actually pick on
what he does for yards passing or Jalen Hurts yards
passing plus two hundred for over twentndred.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yards for Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
I actually liked it over in that game because Doug
I not only will pick against the Kansas City Chiefs,
I actually think it's going to be a higher scoring
game than people think. So I may live to regret
it on Monday, but I am right now on the
side of the Eagles in the over and Jalen Hurts
having a big game on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Okay, and Jalen Hurts having a big game, love that,
all right? That's noted all right?

Speaker 1 (27:02):
And that's all available on the DraftKings Sportsbook app. You
know only have the line chiefs minus one and a
half forty eight and a half to total, but you
got a ton of fun prop bets, not just how
long would the national anthem be? But also how many
Taylor Swift cutaways will they be?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
And more. Thanks for listening to The Doug Gottleb Show podcast.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Be sure to catch us live every weekday three to
five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find
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Speaker 4 (27:37):
Live on Radio Row.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
At Super Bowl fifty nine, a very special guest joins
us on The Doug Gottlieb Show. He is now the
NFL's Defensive Player of the Year as of last Evening.
Ladies and gentlemen, Patrick Sutana the Denver Broncos, congratulations on
the honor. They're here on behalf of Applebee's teaming up.
Is you help spread the word on the Super Bowl

(28:00):
wing deal. We'll get to that in the second, but
congratulations on the oo last night.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
Thank you man I appreciate it. It definitely a surreal feeling.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Sure, I look, there's a lot that goes into this,
but when you stop and think about it for a second, right,
You're you're voted the best defensive player in.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
The entire league. Yeah, has that sunk in on?

Speaker 7 (28:22):
It definitely sunk in now. Yesterday it just seemed like
a blur. It just seemed like everything was a fault,
you know, just from winning the award, you know, to
all the interviews and to see my family.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
I just felt instant gratification.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
But now I realize what I've able to accomplish, you know,
and it's pretty awesome to get measured, you know, amongst
the best, and to win that prestigious award for sure.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Patricksartan joining us here, where fans can enjoy free boonless
wings with an online order through Applebe's dot com and
the mobile app Doug. I have an exercise here. I
want to make sure that these numbers are official. Someone
made a list of the top receivers in the National
Football League. You can see them here and what they
did against you. Brock Bauer six routes, one catch, nine yards.

(29:10):
That correct, Yeah, sounds about right. Mike Evans twenty four routes,
one catch, eight yards. Still don't lie, right, here's my favorite.
George Pickens eleven routes, one reception, sixteen yards. I'll tell
you why it's my favorite in the second as.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
He complained about because because he very much likely complained
about it, the entire postgame is.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
That here's here's why.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Because the Pittsburgh Steeler fans tried to make this video
clip of George Pickens roasting him and it was ninety seconds.
It was the one catch, and that catch happened last
year like.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
That this it was.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
It was amazing he had one catch in your game
this year because that game was in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
This year's game was in Denver. Amazing.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
They've tried to make it like this highlight video and
it was just the same catch over and over again
from different angles and it was only for like ten yards.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
Yeah, but yeah, what it is.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
You know, I'll do the talking for you a couple more.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Dougor Drake London zero catches, jero yards on thirteen routes.
Your former teammate Jerry Judy thirty four routes to catches
twenty yards. I mean, Jamar Chaser, you said a couple
of weeks back, with kay Adam's best receiver in the
NFL forty three route routes three catches, twenty seven yards.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
That on that one, that one's amazing. Here here's my question. Okay,
obviously your dad was the devil player and your dad
coached here. How did your dad coach you?

Speaker 4 (30:25):
What?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
What? What was his style and approach to coaching.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Him that dynamic?

Speaker 4 (30:33):
You know?

Speaker 7 (30:33):
I mean when he was coaching h me in high school,
it wasn't so much about him just coaching me. It
was sort of him coaching a group of men. So
everything wasn't two hands on. I mean, we had a
separate dB coach, Chad Wilson, uh that coached us throughout
the duration of my high school career. So everything was

(30:54):
just like him being involved and also being the leader
amongst a group of young men. So I mean it
was pretty cool to share that dynamic on the field
and when we get home, it's father and son on
the field, this coaching player, you know what I mean,
Because I mean he treated me just like everybody else on.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
The field, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
It wasn't no no advantage at all, Like it wasn't No, Oh,
he getting an easy way out.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
No, I had to work and work and work to
prove my point.

Speaker 7 (31:20):
So yeah, it was. It was a great, great feeling.
I mean, it's it's moments that all chance forever.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
Uh. Sharing the same field with him for sure?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Did he did you call him coach or did you
call him dad? During games?

Speaker 6 (31:35):
Uh? I don't even say that to be like yo yoah, pops.
You know some some subtle you know, nothing like dad, Dad. Nah.
I couldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Patrick Sutan joining us here live from Radio Roll the
Doug Got Loop Show on Fox Sports Radio on behalf
of Applebee's kind of along those lines, not family wise,
but vance Joseph was once a head coach of the
Denver Broncos. Now he comes back with Sean Payton. Your
defensive coordinator. Had to be some swallowing of the pride
going back to a place where it didn't work out,

(32:13):
but now leads the defense and then your defense is
off the charts. Your defensive player of the year, What
sort of impact does he have on you as a
player and the defense that you guys had this year
in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 7 (32:26):
Yeah, I think he's done a great job of sort
of leading, you know what I mean. He's he's a
great leader. You know, obviously he's a great defensive coordinator.
But he brought the best out of us, you know
what I mean. I just think each and every day
he challenged us individually, you know what I mean, because
we had a great we have a great defense, a

(32:46):
young defense. We had a lot of unsung heroes that
people didn't recognize before the season that they recognize now.
So I definitely think he brought the best out of
us defensively, and he allowed us to shine in his
scheme using us skill set. And that's the one thing
that you know he majored in, you know what I mean.
Obviously got all these exotic schemes, these pressures, you know, coverages,

(33:08):
But I just think that he called the right players
at the right time and that allowed.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
Us to succeed at the high level.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Okay, Dan is our resident like uniform police. But I
can tell you that we are lockstep in. Can we
can you help us get the throwback uniforms to be
the main uniforms of the Broncos.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
I tried, man, I tried, I tried. We've been trying
to pitch that, you know, the ownership and everybody involved.
But it's pretty hard man, because they wanted to treat
it like the prize, you know what I mean, you know,
create the anticipation for the throwbacks because you know, if
we make them the primaries, people will get used to them.
Then they will get bored with that. Then we had
to come up with a whole new scheme, you know.

(33:53):
So I think we're gonna keep it how it is,
you know what I mean, keep it hitting, you know
what I mean, and lead to anticipation amongst fans.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
So, uh is Bonex the real deal? Great rookie season?
What do you see him in? Him as a quarterback?

Speaker 6 (34:07):
He is a real deal, honestly.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
I mean, I just I've seen it first out of
ot as. I just see the confidence of the meaning,
the pois, everything along those lines, and I think that,
you know, I've seen it early on. Obviously, he's very
mature to be a rookie. He came in with the
right mindset, the right demeanor, very confident. I remember he
made a no look throw like one of the first

(34:32):
players of OTA is. I was like, okay, yeah, he's
coming in with with that attitude, with that swagger, so
I was like, yeah, we're gonna have a good year.
You know, you know when you feel that presence and
that you know that sort of urgency, you know that
the year that he was going to have I wasn't
a surprise at all.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Pat Another thing that this is kind of a bone
I had to pick with Dan is he loves boneless wings.
You're promoting boneless wings. Bolas, aren't those chicken nuggets? Like, like,
what I get that?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
That's not a wing?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
A wing has bones, Wings are wings. Boneless wings are
chicken nuggets.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Buffaloes don't have wings. So like we're already off to
a wrong, like a bad start there. Who cares the
boneless wings to me?

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah? The wings?

Speaker 6 (35:16):
It wings?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, what's your favorite flavor that I know? Doug wants
to know the favorite flavor of wings.

Speaker 7 (35:27):
See this is this is a tricky one because a
lot of people may not understand. I think it's an
Atlanta thing that's sort of growing. It's a hot hot
lemon pepper.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Oh m hm.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Lemon pepper is very popular on this stage.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I love I love lempp. I like to dried lemon
pepper rub more than the wet lemon pepper.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, Yeah, got some more more of a drive guy.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
You know, so much of sports is about confidence, and
Dan went through and read all those numbers, But how
do you maintain and again now your defense to play
the year, everybody's been be coming at you. But even
as a young player, you still maintained a level of
confidence but not arrogance. How do you do that in
a position where like I actually think the Pittsburgh thing

(36:08):
is the perfect example, Dan, where you can shut a
guy down ten different routes and then you slip and
he gets you once right, and social media media.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Makes you feel like you don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
How do you personally maintain a proper level of self confidence?

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Yeah, I mean all about dB is confidence. Man.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
I have to feel like to go out there and
go up against top level athletes and going backwards you're
reading and reacting. I mean, that's just what it is
at the end of the day. I mean, that's what
makes dB hard. But you just got to have the
confidence go out there and be the best player that
you could be. You know, I mean, hone in on
your technique and tape and you're gonna have short term

(36:49):
memory at the end of the day. You know, cornerback.
You know it's you're gonna have your highs and lows.
I mean, you're gonna have games where you get beat.
Ain't gonna have your good games. And that's what it
is at the end of the day. But you just
gotta stay confident throughout the game because then that play
gonna come me. You're gonna make a game change and
play throughout the game. So when you when you have

(37:12):
those games, man, you know like, okay, yeah, I'm gonna
make a game change and play for sure.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Patrick's here on behalf of Applebee's.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
You're gonna tell me about the Pick six, But I
can tell you that fans can score an incredible deal
forty dollars order or more this Sunday. Yes, on the
app or online, you can add an order of twenty
a twenty piece Boneus wing to your cart. Just enter
the promo sp Wings twenty five at checkout. What about
the pick six deal?

Speaker 7 (37:37):
Yeah, so the pick six deal perfect for you. It
will unlock a free six piece order of America's favorite
bonus wings. You know what I mean. So let's dine
in or to go, right, Yeah, dining or to go,
you know what I mean? So, like you said, I'm
doing a promotion with Applebee's this Super Bowl Sunday. I'm

(37:59):
partnering with Apples. We're doing twenty bonus wings with a
forty dollars purchase. That's any bonus wings if you're liking
your flavor. So, yeah, it's a great it's a great
thing going on. A great deal going on with Applebee's
Super Bowl Sunday. You could use either Applebee's dot com
or OBAP so you're liking so.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
The other day.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
And the pick six deal you can do any time
when there's a pick six on an NFL Sunday. Patrick's
You're day. Congratulations on the award. Thanks for joining us
here on the Doug gottlib Show.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Thank you, Thank you for having the Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. P S two PS two
great nick dame by the way, I mean it's great.
That's an awesome nickname.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
No, Yes, generations and album get a PS five maybe right?

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, yeah, well I mean a PS three like his son.
PS three be a be kind of amazing.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
Yes three is my favorite. It is.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
The Broncos throwbacks are amazing. I do kind of disagree
with the whole like it's specials, so people get it's those.
The unifimpers are great, the lines are so clean. Just
I kind of think we're overthinking it.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
You know, it all looks good.

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