August 7, 2025 • 37 mins
Doug reacts to Archie Manning's comments about his grandson Arch indicating that he will likely not enter the NFL Draft next year, and Doug believes Archie. Doug thinks Diana Taurasi sounds petty and out of touch when she is shown complaining about WNBA salaries. Doug welcomes NFL Analyst Daniel Jeremiah onto the show to talk about the Chargers, Bengals and the other NFL Headlines. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through a game of "I Feel A Draft".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Next hour. Daniel Jeremiah's going to join us in twenty
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be really really exciting. Hey, welcome in. Boys are all
here and we are excited to get after it tomorrow.
Quick programming. Note, Jay stud you're off right, you got
a little mini vacation? Is that right?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
That is correct?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Okay? So unfortunately I don't get to work with you guys.
I'm gonna do Cowherd show tomorrow, and then is Dan
doing my show tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Dan Byron for Doug Gottlieb tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Great, that's awesome, great job, Great job everybody, Great job, everybody.
I love that drop. A big fan of that drop. Okay,
let's just get after it. There, sound now of arch Manning.
Excuse me, Archie Manning saying that arch Manning? What's the
old Lee Corso not so fast, my friends on people
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putting him number one of their draft boards because he'll
be at Texas next year. What I love about my show,
and I say my show, I mean not just how
we built it, but also the time slot is it
gives everybody a chance to talk about these things. Go ahead,
(02:02):
you get And it doesn't mean that I'm taking anybody's
rant and going to use it, but I do. I
appreciate the Cowherds of the world, the Dan Patrick's of
the world, and guys at other networks who give a
chance in sports television. But I can also tell you
that I I think we're doing something. And this is
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in regards to all of college football, all of it.
But I'll use arch Manning as the as the kind
of launching off point. Okay, lets you take a listen
to something for a second. Well, first, here's the deal
with arch Manning. Okay, here's the deal. Archie Manning saying
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Archill play at Texas. I don't believe it's a leverage play.
I don't believe, as Cowherds said. I don't believe for
one second that it's about saying the right thing. I don't.
I don't think that's what it is. I don't know, Okay,
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And I don't think it's about money or an nil deal.
I do think that. And we'll get to this that
we're in a super curious time in college sports, and
we're judging this based upon the last thirty years or
maybe even on salaries of guys or contracts of guys,
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and we have no idea what it's going to look
like in the future. But we're asking Archie Manning. All
he's done is raise two Hall of Fame quarterbacks, and
now his grandson appears to be positioning himself to being
a starting quarterback and a first overall pick in the
NFL Draft. Doesn't mean he will be, but positioning himself
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So if the path that his uncles took was good
enough for them to go to Super Bowls, win Super Bowls,
and now be Hall of Famers, it's probably gonna be
good enough for arch And I think that's the thinking here.
It it's it's you know, the story comes out that
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Arch Manning okay, And this is according to Foxsports dot Com.
He said, quote, arch isn't going to do that. He'll
be at Texas in terms of uh being in the
twenty twenty six NFL Draft. He told this to Texas Monthly.
People saying he's a Heisman candidate. He's not a Heisman
Trophy candidate when you haven't played but three games. It's crazy.
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If anyone else says these things in today's society, they're
a hater. If they say it about somebody of a
different race, obviously, then they're a racists as well. Right,
I can't do it, But all Archie Manning is saying
about his his grandson is hey, look, you gotta have reps.
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You got to show you can do it. Eli came
back for his senior year, and of course Peyton came
back for his senior year, and it seemed to work
for them and even both of them struggled in their
first year. This is an old football guy who's forgotten
more about playing quarterback in the NFL than any of
us will. Actually, no saying. You have to eliminate that thought.
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He's not gonna be in the twenty sixth draft. He
started in three games. Take a breath, Let the kid play,
let him experience it. It's actually probably the best thing
I've ever heard. Right, he's gonna be at Texas. It
wasn't He's going to be playing college football. We're not
doing the bounce around a different schools thing. He's gonna
be at Texas. That's where he's going to be. He's
going to figure it out, and when he's ready, then
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we'll send him to the NFL draft. But let's use
it as a launch pad here for just a second. Right,
let's use it to say something really smart. We are
talking about a system in college football that none of
us know what's going to happen. Case in point, Mike Lombardi,
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who's the GM for North Carolina GM for North Carolina.
He's been a GM in the Nation Football League. He's
been a scout. Of course, he's been a broadcaster as well.
Super talented guy who really knows football, has worked for
Bill Walsh, has worked it done for Bill Belichick, and
now he's back for working for Bill Belichick. Take a
listen to what he said when I asked him about
their expectations at Carolina this year.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
We have seventy new players on the team does so
it's hard. It's a completely new team. I think, to me,
it's about one day at a time. We've got to
build it.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
And we're building a culture.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I mean, that's the most important thing. When you walk
into this building, you'll feel a culture, you know, and
that's what more is the most important element of what
we're doing. Once you build a culture, then all of
a sudden you've developed multipliers.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And that's what I think what arch Manny wants to
be is multiplier. Archie Manning saying his grandson's gonna be
a Texas not just this year but into next year
is great. It's great for the sport, it's great for Texas,
but it's great for all these other kids. They are
going to talk about moving around and trying to and
it has nothing to do with money, zero zero, right, Like,
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would it be smart financially to get to the NFL
to try and get to that second contract, of course,
but doesn't even have to do with the fact. It
has to do with if you're gonna go to the NFL,
you better be ready because outside of Jordan Love, they
all start games their rookie year and if you're not ready, one,
it kills your confidence. Look at Kayleb Williams. And two
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oftentimes your coach should get fired, your GM could get fired,
and you can you get basically two years of being
a starter to prove yourself, and after that, if you're
not good enough, you're out. And here we are, as
radio show host, even as a college basketball coach, making
comments about a man's thoughts, who has been a star
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in college, been a starting quarterback in the NFL, raised
two Hall of famers went along the exact same path
as college quarterbacks as well, coming back for their senior year,
and we're criticizing make it about something that it's not about.
The best thing you can do to prepare yourself to
play in the NFL is to play a ton in college.
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The only position that does not operate that way is
running back, because there's just a certain number of hits
that your body can take outside of that, the more
reps you get, the more experience you have, the more
experience you have, the slower the incredible speed of the
NFL game is. Let's not make it about nil. Let's
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not make it about first contracts. Let's not make it
about positioning himself and what team he wants to go to,
and let's just make it about what I believe that
it's about. Has that arch Manning, following the guidance of
his grandpa, Archie Manning and his uncle's Peyton Manning and
Eli Manning, knows that in order to make it, you
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got to give yourself the best opportunity to be ready
to play when you get there, and to be ready
to play when you get there. You're better off with
more reps in college, more starts. There's been studies done.
It's just like holding guys out not playing in their
rookie year, right, there's a big divide. But I mean,
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Anthony Richardson, how many games did he play in college?
He was completely unprepared for being an NFL quarterback. And
you know what, he won't be an NFL quarterback or
starting NFL quarterback after this season. It's reality. Now you
can sit here and go, Hey, that's just one. There's
other guys that have your right. Hey, you're right, But
(10:03):
for the most part, you need to start two, if
not three, and if possible, four years in college. Bo Nix,
how was he last year? How many years did he
start in college? Five? I believe, right, Michael Pennix? How
good was he last year? And look at his meteoric
rise from a guy who wasn't seen as a thrower
going back to when he's in Indiana to having an
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absolute howitzer, being a high first round traffick and supplanting
Kirk Coussins last year right, five years in college. So
you can sit here and argue about what you think
it's about, but I think Archie Manning knows what it's about.
Volume of quality reps preparing you because you're gonna have
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to play right away, and if you're not ready to
play right away, it gets exposed. It's really hard for
you to dig out of that rep, really hard, really hard.
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When you hear that song, what do you think.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Of We were just having this discussion.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Okay, so it's on the Party of Five soundtrack, but
I know you're that's not what you're getting at.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
No.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I think it was on Madagascar.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
No, no close, But no, Sam, you want to.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
Try animated movie or not animated movie.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Ice age okay, one, yeah, not very anybody loves I
kind of stopped watching John John Leguizama, right, like, yeah,
leg yes, uh it was that Ray Romano?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Was he the best? Was the pest?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
He was the sloth?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Say in the movie The Past there was a movie
called the Pest.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yes, yes, anyway, yeah, yeah, John Leguizamo. Anyway, that's when
I hear that. That's the power of soundtracks.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
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Speaker 2 (12:16):
It really is. Well it's it's the riff is great,
and his voice and the hitting of the different notes.
It's a really unique song. On other hand, I couldn't
I mean, with the exception of his voice I couldn't
tell you anything else. Russ the Roots, saying right, they
are a the classic oneiters one hit wonders right.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
Yeah, I had no idea who did the song or
I always thought it was on my Way or you know,
I didn't even know that was the lyric. But I've
heard that song so many times different places. I never
connected it to anything.
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Speaker 2 (13:30):
M I mean, the Brewers are a story. You know,
misses on the on the il doesn't matter, you know,
just it doesn't matter. They just keep winning games. Crazy
crazy story. Uh okay, So Diana Tarrazzi is in the news.
She is, by many people's estimation, the greatest women's player
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of all time. Uh So she had this to say.
There's a docuseriies on Prime and so she had this
to say about WNBA paychecks when she played.
Speaker 10 (14:05):
I'm the best player in the world and I have
to go to a communist country to get paid like
a capitalist. One time I came back and I was like, man,
my parents have just gone older and I've missed a
big part of it.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
We weren't making.
Speaker 10 (14:18):
That much money, so generational wealth was coming from going
to Russia every year. Now we have to come back
home and get paid nothing to play in a harder league,
in worse conditions against the best competition in the world.
The janitor at the arena made more than me.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay, there's a lot to it there. The first is
that we have to start with the understanding, okay, of
how it comes off. And I will be completely honest
with you. I don't always come off the way I
think I come off right. I think a lot of
us are guilty of that where you're like, man, I
(14:57):
thought that went great, and you walk out and somebody's like,
how'd it go? It was not good? You know. I
Mean I can think of times in which I've said
things on TV and on radio that I thought came
out one way, and then I listened back or watch back, like, oh,
that wasn't exactly I want to come out. But the
what's the word? The sheer, hurricance and just kind of
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obnoxious sort of feel to it is, Uh, yeah, she
sounds obnoxious. That's that's the only real way to put it.
She sounds obnoxious. First, Russia was not a communist country
when she went there. I played in Russia before she did. Russia. Look,
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you could they could, you could call it a dictatorship now,
but it's not a communist country has been communists. Second,
it's basic economics. Not everything that is valued in this
country is valued elsewhere. Not everything that is valued elsewhere
is valued here. Perfect example is if you're Kristin Polisic, right,
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have you ever heard him say like, Hey, I'm the
best player on the US men's national team and I
have to go overseas to go play when my family's
at home and they're getting older. Has anybody ever said that,
what do I'd like men's soccer players? You know, they
got to go overseas. They're the best in the world,
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and we like soccer here. We just don't have a
league where you can generate that kind of money. Where
are the MLS players coming out and going like this
is wrong? A janitor makes more than me, which, by
the way, not accurate. You're only playing for three months,
you know, back then when she was playing, and she's
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making a ton of money, crap a ton of money
in endorsements. But again, the other part to it is
it's like, look, you basically were in a startup that
was not making money. You were working at a restaurant,
and you're comparing your restaurant to another restaurant that's been
going for one hundred years that everybody loves, right, and
(17:16):
what is it eighty five percent of restaurants fail within
the first couple of years. I don't know that number varies,
but it's just you sound most great athletes when they
get done, they have a certain confidence, but grace to
them and whatever bitterness they have may be in rivalries,
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but all of it end up leading to this place
where I got. Consider the greatest player ever. I traveled
all over the world to play. And look at the
WNBA now as opposed to when I started. I take
a great amount of pride in it. But instead you're
sitting there complaining about a league that was hemorrhaging money
for twenty five years because you're bitter and you're jealous
that the players now, especially one particular player who you
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don't think is at your level, is making more money
than you did. That's called being petty. Let's bring in
Dan Jeremiah. He joins us here in the Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Of course, DJ is the
lead analyst in the NFL Draft, he's the lead analyst
in the Chargers radio network, and of course he has
moved the six podcast. He joins us now on the
(18:23):
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Tradio. By the way,
so do you work for ESPN now?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I just got off of a zoom, Doug. We just
had an informational zoom kind of clarifying where everything was
with NFL network in ESPN, and I just I had
one question I wanted to ask, but I didn't get
to it, which was now that it looks like this
deal is going to happen, how long you know on
the timeline of this thing when it can be agreed to.
How long before Baldy is allowed to compete on WWE RAW.
(18:52):
I don't know, you know if that needs to wait
until everything gets finalized or you know when we can
get him in the ring.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
But it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Neat to have new partners, crazy crazy, crazy stuff. Dan
Jeremiah joins us in the Doug Gottlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Did you say we got to get
to I Loo for a quick update? Said it, yeah,
let's okay. Uh, I look, can you give me the
details of her Sean Slater really quick?
Speaker 11 (19:17):
Yeah? Today the Pro Bowl left tackle taken off the
practice field in a card. It appeared to be a
left leg injury.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (19:24):
The Athletic reported that after the injury, by the way, Hi, DJ,
glad your padres, Glad your padres are doing well, but
not really we'll get there of course. The Athletic reported
that after the injury, Slater threw his helmet, he slammed
his hand on the cart and buried his head in
his hands. That's all the details that are available right now.
This happened just over an hour ago.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Hmm.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
That's just brutal. You know, we just got the contract
done too that you know, it got out a little bit.
He had some issues with his foot, uh you know,
early on in camp, so that couple with the contract
in practicing early, but showed up in great shape and
you hoping he's going to have a monster year with
a team that wants to run the ball and has
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really invested in the offensive line with his new contract
as well as with Joe Alt In year two, they
go out and signed Mackay Beckton. So I haven't heard
the finality of it, but when you hear those details
about you know, his head's and a towel and everybody's
coming up and tapping him on the shoulder as he's
being cart off the field. That didn't look good.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
No, no, not not not great. Have you been to
Chargers practice.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yeah, I've been out there, been out there a couple
of times. You know, they everybody's positive this time of year,
you know for sure, but they they are. I think
they're really deep on defense. I think you saw that
in the preseason game against the Lions. You know, at
Lions obviously either team playing their front line players, but
two teams that are view just haven't talented rosters, and
the back end of the back end of the roster
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for the Chargers beat the stuffing out of the Lions.
So it's a it's a deeper team for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Let's get to what people in the league are saying.
I don't think there's no question to me that that
the Cowboys, like it's every year with the Cowboys drama, right,
every single year with the Cowboys drama. It feels like,
but in this particular case, like he's gonna play for
the Cowboys, So I mean, and he's doing a hold in.
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So what are people in the league saying with the
Cowboys right now?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Oh, everybody's expecting them to get it done. It just
kind of seems, you know, like this is the unnecessary
path that you go down, and it gets kind of
contentious and gets ugly, but then eventually the Cowboys end
up giving in a little bit and they'll and they'll
get the deal done. So I've talked anybody in the
league that thinks this isn't going to happen. I was
out there at their joint practice with the Rams the
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other day, and you know when Jimmy Garoppolo was just
carving him up like a Thanksgiving turkey. I think it
was pretty good idea. That'd be nice to have Michael
Parsons on that defense.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, no question, no question. Okay, what about Cleveland? You
know there's I've heard from a couple of people, not
a time, but a couple of people on television say
they're setting your door Sanders up to fail, right, throwing
them out there with the ones in the preseason game
when he's barely practiced with the ones. My perception of
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it is like, are you kidding your fifth round draft pick?
You get a chance to play with the ones. That's great.
That gives you the best chance to succeed because you're
playing with better players that they they're actually going to
be playing this season for the Browns. What's your take
on how they're handling Shadure considering the injuries they've had
to the quarterback position.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Yeah, I kind of guess was liate to this in
terms of seeing this as a quote unquote controversy, But
I mean I'm like, am I missing something? There's just
quarterbacks are hurt, so the next guy is going to
go in and get more opportunities. Like that happens in
every camp, you know, at all different positions across the league.
Every single year. You know, you just guys get hurt
and that gives other guys opportunity to get out there
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and play. And nobody's going to one hundred percent ready
to play as a rookie when they get out on
the field. But that's what's that's what's about. Get out there,
get some reps, get some experience, and to be honest
with you, preseason is like the most bland, you know
form of football where I think it's easiest for guys
who have talent to show out because you're not. There's
nothing's going to trick you or confusion with what they're doing.
There's nothing that your lack of experience will keep you from,
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you know, finding success. Like it's basic, you know, junior
high level scheme. You're going to see here on both
sides of the ball. Just go out there, makes rows
make good decisions. I find it hard to do both
things right. You can't both believe in him and then
also be nervous and scared for him, Like it's not
you can't do both of those things.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, I don't. I really don't get it. I'm glad
you sort of agree with me. I just I don't
get it at all. Uh, Doug Gottlieb show here on
Fox Sports Radio, what do you think they do in
terms of who they keep.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I've always thought that that Kenny Pickett was going to
be the odd man out and was going to be,
you know, a trade piece if there was an injury
around the league, and he would be that guy that
would be kind of sent out and see what you
can get for him. But I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I don't have any inside information there of
what that looks like with the with the young rookies.
I just it was hard for me to think that
they would, you know, they would move on from one
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of those guys this early on in the process, not
knowing what you have to me, it makes a lot
of sense. Those guys are on the roster and Flacco.
I thought Kenny Pickett would just have to be the
light years better than everybody else to make it, and
I don't know, because of injury, that's going to be
difficult for him to do.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Archie Manning came out in a Texas publication. Fox Sports
has picked it up saying, hey, Arch is going to
be at the University of Texas next year. I'll give
you my thoughts in a second. What are your thoughts
when you hear that.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
I think that's kind of been the plan. I mean,
if you talk to anybody that's connected to the family,
that was always kind of the expectation that he was
not going to be in any hurry to rush off
to the NFL. And his dad and uncle stayed for
a while and played a lot of snaps, and I
think they're smart enough to realize, hey, let's get the
experience and get developed there at Texas where you can
playing playing with a lot of talent, coached by a
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good quarterback guy in sark to me, I was kind
of always expected that he was going to, you know,
want to stay another year after this year. Now, who knows,
maybe he goes out Win's Heisman Trophy and he's so
much better than everybody else, and you say, what is
there left to prove? But I don't see that happening.
Speaker 9 (25:30):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And again, you know, his uncles both had the exact
same kind of path and they stayed for an extra year,
and I think he can stay for two years two
more years if you wanted anyway. But I thought to you,
like he started three games, like what are we actually.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Yeah, and if you look at it, I mean everything,
especially over the last handful of years, the guys that
have succeeded the guys who played a lot of football
in college.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, of course. Well, I don't know if you heard
the interview, but I thought it was I mean, I
think he knew what he was saying, but it came
across super weird. You know, Bengals are playing tonight and
you know they're talking about playing their guys first thing.
What do you think of some of these teams kind
of circling back to playing their starters in this first
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preseason game.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Well, you know, Kansas City's Andy Reid's always been one
who's done that, and there's obviously merit into it, and
that there's a reason why you want to try and
get off to a hot start. You can't afford to
give away games early in the season, and even in
a seventeen game year, you want to be ready to go.
And so I get that. I think there's certain teams
and coaches that you know, couldn't get away without it.
(26:44):
Without doing it, I don't think there's just this is
the right way, that's the wrong way. I think you
got to know your team. But you know, most successful
coaches have a philosophy and they stick to it and
they you know, there's the leaf in it. And Andy
Reid's always been one who's done that. So I was
I I hated when the good guys split in the
preseason when I was with teams because I remember Johathan
Ogden getting nicked up in the in the fourth preseason
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game one year and just being like, dude's Jonathan Ogen Like,
he doesn't need to practice. But you know, I kind
of see both sides of that argument.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Did you hear what Jamar Chase said about his quarterback?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And he was, yeah, he was talking about uh, he
was talking about his quarterback in comparison to Josh Allen,
and he said that people don't game plan for Joe Burrow,
they game plan for Josh Allen. And I was like, wait,
what now, Obviously the ego of a wide receiver is
(27:38):
you know, the game plan for me. We got all
these weapons. But it was a really really odd statement.
Is it true?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Well, I mean I think that you know, Joe Burrow
is going to be hard to defend, just in terms
of he's equal opportunity. He's gonna he sees the entire field.
He's going to just get the ball where it needs
to go, and he's going to play the game from
the pocket. He's not going to be involved in a
lot of design quarterback runs or anything like that, whereas
Josh Allen. Maybe Josh Allen's presence can factor into what
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safeties are doing a little bit more. And if he
starts running the ball, you got to you gotta worry
about that aspect of his game. So he's not just
like a stock pocket passing quarterback. So maybe, you know,
maybe that's what he's trying to reference, but he's got
the best stock pocket passing quarterback in the league right now.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, it was an I felt like it was an
odd statement, super super super odd.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Usually never great to talk about other guys on other teams.
That just usually as a head coach, that's good advice
and probably for a player as well.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's very very good. Adye Stan Jeremi is
our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. I feel like the NFC North is the
most interesting maybe quarterback division, And my logic behind it is, Okay,
you got Golf who's been really good the past couple
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of years and been good at times for the Rams
as well, but now Ben Johnson's gone, what does it
look like with a different coordinator. You got Jordan Love
who last two year has been a starter, injured a
little bit last year, but also like a little bit
high on the turnover numbers. This is a big year
for them, especially considering of the rest of the division.
Then you got JJ McCarthy. What have you heard? I
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mean again, I can't go off of one highlight on Twitter.
I can't go off of one person. But you talked
to everybody in the league. What have you heard of
about JJ McCarthy's first preseason as a starter?
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yeah, I've heard just okay, hasn't blown anybody away. But
we talked about this on our podcast last week. I
agree with you because I had the same take, which
was that division. You know, the focus on those quarterbacks
probably the more fascinating, most fascinating one in the league,
and not just for you know, how does JJ step
into a complete team? You look at Caleb like the
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excuses have been going to be stripped this year with
with Ben Johnson, with an upgraded offensive line, Jordan Love
and the Packers are kind of like a sneaky team
and that I don't know anybody talks about them amongst
this division. You know, they just kind of don't get
a lot of attention. But they could be really really
good if he continues to uh, if he takes a
big step this year. And then I saw the Lions
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of the Night and it's preseason. I learned that playing
their guys, but you know there's gonna be questions about
them losing their coordinators and what does that look like?
And you know, so I think it's I think it's
going to be a division we focus and I think
the two the number one storyline in the league for
me this year is going to be the second year quarterbacks.
All those guys we saw start last year and uh,
and they've got two of them in that division.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah. Uh, he's the one and only Daniel Jeremiah. He
is now an employee of the Worldwide Leader as well,
and he's made in many hats and many I so
you haven't gotten to the NFL draft. I don't know
what that's gonna look like. Next year, that's gonna be
found it fascinating, right, are they gonna do theirs and
you guys do your I.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Think I think I think this first year for sure,
everything's the status quo and then I mean, I won't
speak out a turn on that, but I think they're
you know, they under their way of doing business. You
think about the National Championship Game for football and all that.
They have all those different viewing opportunities and streams. So
I know there's I've got a lot of people like, oh,
what's going to happen the NFL network draft coverage? I like, well,
(31:21):
I think that I think that'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
He's DJ Dan Jerem. Check out download the Move the
Sticks podcast. I encourage you to do so. It's awesome, DJ,
thanks for being our guest.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Thanks. And the dodgerss just through the ball awing. Oh
no they're off today, that'll be tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Well look a look at look at look at the
parting ways in which he just knife yet just knife
she Jase do knife yet?
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Four hundred million dollars. You think you get a little
more than that with a payroll? Four hundred million bucks.
That's just me.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah. Well it's okay. I mean, listen, all this you
know this is this is bitterness over the Padres choking
last offseason when they were talking all that trash.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
If we didn't choke last year, it would have been
three straight years first round exit for the Dodgers. They'll
probably get bounce in the first year this year, so
it's just three out of four years we'll have to start.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
All Jase, that's an all timer. If we didn't choke
last year, Yeah, we had.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Old if Yeah, if the Dodgers didn't win the World Series,
we would have not won the World Series. If if
if Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah two games to one lead and yeah, how that
work out for it? Thanks? Thanks Dejail.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
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Speaker 2 (32:29):
Let's get to a game.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Isaac Low and Crow. What's the game today?
Speaker 11 (32:40):
Feeling frosty, Doug.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 11 (32:49):
The subject of today's draft. We're gonna draft the college
football team that interests you the most this season. So
this is something that can go in a lot of
different directions snake for Matt, starting with Doug having the
number one pick, then Sam is gonna pick Iowa, then Jason,
then back around again. I already placed a bet on
(33:11):
the number two pick. All right, Doug, we'll start with you.
Today's topic again, the college football team that interests you
the most this season.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I'm gonna take North Carolina. North Carolina. I know it's
year one, your ones are hard, seventy new players, you know,
it's it's very difficult. But Bill Belichick is widely regarded
as the greatest coach of our generation. I want to
see what that looks like in college football.
Speaker 11 (33:43):
Okay, thank you, That's who I was gonna pick. To
be honest with you. Number two picks, Sam.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
All right, I'm I'm not.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
Gonna you're you're struggling, You're biting you up. I am
interested in several teams in the Big ten. Let's go
with Penn State, all right, and the pole that just
came out the preseason ranking. They're still behind Ohio State,
but a lot of people are thinking Penn State. With
Drew allerback, k Tron Allen, Nick Singleton in the backfield,
I'm sure they have a bunch of studs on defense.
(34:11):
They are There are a lot of expectations on Penn State, Doug,
You've talked about it. Can James Franklin really push push
it over the hill? They won a couple of playoff
games last year. If you can't win the Big Ten,
but he can win the national championship, you are king
of the castle. So if if you can go that
route and win it all, he'll probably stay there for life.
So Penn State I'm drafting at number two overall.
Speaker 11 (34:32):
Number three pick Jason Stewart.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
Oh, I can't believe you guys left this to me.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
I'm always interested to see how a defending champion plays,
especially a defending champion with a head coach who colors
oh sorry, got rid of the negative reputation, but still
hasn't beaten Michigan in quite some time. Ohio State is
my pick at number three. I lope more.
Speaker 11 (34:56):
Big curiosity at number four forces and compels me to
take USC because even though I'm in a lum, I
have followed the disaster that has Los Angeles college football
and the expectations and the turning of the fans who
thought that Chip Kelly was going to be the saving
grace at UCLA. They turned on him. I'm not saying
(35:17):
it was a bad idea for them too. And now
it's the same thing with Lincoln Riley. They think that
he's going to be the saving grace and they have
turned on him as well, and his stock is at
an all time low with the fifth pick. Meanwhile, I'm
going to take a wild card Arizona State under the radar.
I really like the direction that that program has gone
in under a talented young head coach in Kenny Dillingham.
(35:38):
Now back to Jason Steart for the number six.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Pick, Dilly, Oh wow, this is the year that we
see if Cayln de Borow is closer to Saban than
Dennis FRANCIONI very good, Kaylyn de bor at Alabama.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I'm watching you closely.
Speaker 11 (35:59):
Join the club seven pick Sam.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Staying in the Big ten. Not Iowa.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
Indiana football can do, shirt Signetti.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
You got about a minute left.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Year.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
They're on also receiving both votes. I'm not gonna pick
iye with us, so they out goes Curtis Rourke, who
came from Ohio into Indiana obviously went the playoff. Incomes
Fernando Mendoza, from Cassall.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
We don't we running out of time and I got
another pick?
Speaker 8 (36:26):
Okay, Well, I'm just gonna say Indiana football has some
guys back, a lot of high expectations for the Hoosiers,
who had no expectations.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Before final pick.
Speaker 8 (36:33):
Doug Gottlibe Penn State already picked Penn State.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Oh I'm sorry, Oklahoma State, that's Mount Matter. I care.
Then they're terrible last year, but they beat Arkansas and
then they were terrible. It was really weird.
Speaker 11 (36:48):
That wraps up this edition of I Feel a Draft.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Game. This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
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Where were you? What were you doing? What were you thinking? Well,
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
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Next hour. Daniel Jeremiah's going to join us in twenty
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be really really exciting. Hey, welcome in. Boys are all
here and we are excited to get after it tomorrow.
Quick programming. Note, Jay stud you're off right, you got
a little mini vacation? Is that right?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
That is correct?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Okay? So unfortunately I don't get to work with you guys.
I'm gonna do Cowherd show tomorrow, and then is Dan
doing my show tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Dan Byron for Doug Gottlieb tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Great, that's awesome, great job, Great job everybody, Great job, everybody.
I love that drop. A big fan of that drop. Okay,
let's just get after it. There, sound now of arch Manning.
Excuse me, Archie Manning saying that arch Manning? What's the
old Lee Corso not so fast, my friends on people
(01:42):
putting him number one of their draft boards because he'll
be at Texas next year. What I love about my show,
and I say my show, I mean not just how
we built it, but also the time slot is it
gives everybody a chance to talk about these things. Go ahead,
(02:02):
you get And it doesn't mean that I'm taking anybody's
rant and going to use it, but I do. I
appreciate the Cowherds of the world, the Dan Patrick's of
the world, and guys at other networks who give a
chance in sports television. But I can also tell you
that I I think we're doing something. And this is
(02:24):
in regards to all of college football, all of it.
But I'll use arch Manning as the as the kind
of launching off point. Okay, lets you take a listen
to something for a second. Well, first, here's the deal
with arch Manning. Okay, here's the deal. Archie Manning saying
(02:46):
Archill play at Texas. I don't believe it's a leverage play.
I don't believe, as Cowherds said. I don't believe for
one second that it's about saying the right thing. I don't.
I don't think that's what it is. I don't know, Okay,
(03:07):
And I don't think it's about money or an nil deal.
I do think that. And we'll get to this that
we're in a super curious time in college sports, and
we're judging this based upon the last thirty years or
maybe even on salaries of guys or contracts of guys,
(03:30):
and we have no idea what it's going to look
like in the future. But we're asking Archie Manning. All
he's done is raise two Hall of Fame quarterbacks, and
now his grandson appears to be positioning himself to being
a starting quarterback and a first overall pick in the
NFL Draft. Doesn't mean he will be, but positioning himself
(03:53):
So if the path that his uncles took was good
enough for them to go to Super Bowls, win Super Bowls,
and now be Hall of Famers, it's probably gonna be
good enough for arch And I think that's the thinking here.
It it's it's you know, the story comes out that
(04:18):
Arch Manning okay, And this is according to Foxsports dot Com.
He said, quote, arch isn't going to do that. He'll
be at Texas in terms of uh being in the
twenty twenty six NFL Draft. He told this to Texas Monthly.
People saying he's a Heisman candidate. He's not a Heisman
Trophy candidate when you haven't played but three games. It's crazy.
(04:44):
If anyone else says these things in today's society, they're
a hater. If they say it about somebody of a
different race, obviously, then they're a racists as well. Right,
I can't do it, But all Archie Manning is saying
about his his grandson is hey, look, you gotta have reps.
(05:05):
You got to show you can do it. Eli came
back for his senior year, and of course Peyton came
back for his senior year, and it seemed to work
for them and even both of them struggled in their
first year. This is an old football guy who's forgotten
more about playing quarterback in the NFL than any of
us will. Actually, no saying. You have to eliminate that thought.
(05:30):
He's not gonna be in the twenty sixth draft. He
started in three games. Take a breath, Let the kid play,
let him experience it. It's actually probably the best thing
I've ever heard. Right, he's gonna be at Texas. It
wasn't He's going to be playing college football. We're not
doing the bounce around a different schools thing. He's gonna
be at Texas. That's where he's going to be. He's
going to figure it out, and when he's ready, then
(05:51):
we'll send him to the NFL draft. But let's use
it as a launch pad here for just a second. Right,
let's use it to say something really smart. We are
talking about a system in college football that none of
us know what's going to happen. Case in point, Mike Lombardi,
(06:13):
who's the GM for North Carolina GM for North Carolina.
He's been a GM in the Nation Football League. He's
been a scout. Of course, he's been a broadcaster as well.
Super talented guy who really knows football, has worked for
Bill Walsh, has worked it done for Bill Belichick, and
now he's back for working for Bill Belichick. Take a
listen to what he said when I asked him about
their expectations at Carolina this year.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
We have seventy new players on the team does so
it's hard. It's a completely new team. I think, to me,
it's about one day at a time. We've got to
build it.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
And we're building a culture.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I mean, that's the most important thing. When you walk
into this building, you'll feel a culture, you know, and
that's what more is the most important element of what
we're doing. Once you build a culture, then all of
a sudden you've developed multipliers.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And that's what I think what arch Manny wants to
be is multiplier. Archie Manning saying his grandson's gonna be
a Texas not just this year but into next year
is great. It's great for the sport, it's great for Texas,
but it's great for all these other kids. They are
going to talk about moving around and trying to and
it has nothing to do with money, zero zero, right, Like,
(07:20):
would it be smart financially to get to the NFL
to try and get to that second contract, of course,
but doesn't even have to do with the fact. It
has to do with if you're gonna go to the NFL,
you better be ready because outside of Jordan Love, they
all start games their rookie year and if you're not ready, one,
it kills your confidence. Look at Kayleb Williams. And two
(07:45):
oftentimes your coach should get fired, your GM could get fired,
and you can you get basically two years of being
a starter to prove yourself, and after that, if you're
not good enough, you're out. And here we are, as
radio show host, even as a college basketball coach, making
comments about a man's thoughts, who has been a star
(08:11):
in college, been a starting quarterback in the NFL, raised
two Hall of famers went along the exact same path
as college quarterbacks as well, coming back for their senior year,
and we're criticizing make it about something that it's not about.
The best thing you can do to prepare yourself to
play in the NFL is to play a ton in college.
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The only position that does not operate that way is
running back, because there's just a certain number of hits
that your body can take outside of that, the more
reps you get, the more experience you have, the more
experience you have, the slower the incredible speed of the
NFL game is. Let's not make it about nil. Let's
(08:56):
not make it about first contracts. Let's not make it
about positioning himself and what team he wants to go to,
and let's just make it about what I believe that
it's about. Has that arch Manning, following the guidance of
his grandpa, Archie Manning and his uncle's Peyton Manning and
Eli Manning, knows that in order to make it, you
(09:19):
got to give yourself the best opportunity to be ready
to play when you get there, and to be ready
to play when you get there. You're better off with
more reps in college, more starts. There's been studies done.
It's just like holding guys out not playing in their
rookie year, right, there's a big divide. But I mean,
(09:41):
Anthony Richardson, how many games did he play in college?
He was completely unprepared for being an NFL quarterback. And
you know what, he won't be an NFL quarterback or
starting NFL quarterback after this season. It's reality. Now you
can sit here and go, Hey, that's just one. There's
other guys that have your right. Hey, you're right, But
(10:03):
for the most part, you need to start two, if
not three, and if possible, four years in college. Bo Nix,
how was he last year? How many years did he
start in college? Five? I believe, right, Michael Pennix? How
good was he last year? And look at his meteoric
rise from a guy who wasn't seen as a thrower
going back to when he's in Indiana to having an
(10:25):
absolute howitzer, being a high first round traffick and supplanting
Kirk Coussins last year right, five years in college. So
you can sit here and argue about what you think
it's about, but I think Archie Manning knows what it's about.
Volume of quality reps preparing you because you're gonna have
(10:46):
to play right away, and if you're not ready to
play right away, it gets exposed. It's really hard for
you to dig out of that rep, really hard, really hard.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
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Speaker 2 (11:03):
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may be able to nail this. I don't know, Jayce
do Your son's older than my kids, so maybe not.
When you hear that song, what do you think.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Of We were just having this discussion.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Okay, so it's on the Party of Five soundtrack, but
I know you're that's not what you're getting at.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
No.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I think it was on Madagascar.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
No, no close, But no, Sam, you want to.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
Try animated movie or not animated movie.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Ice age okay, one, yeah, not very anybody loves I
kind of stopped watching John John Leguizama, right, like, yeah,
leg yes, uh it was that Ray Romano?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Was he the best? Was the pest?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
He was the sloth?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Say in the movie The Past there was a movie
called the Pest.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yes, yes, anyway, yeah, yeah, John Leguizamo. Anyway, that's when
I hear that. That's the power of soundtracks.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Rusted Root send me on my way. I want to
say that a great rift.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
It really is. Well it's it's the riff is great,
and his voice and the hitting of the different notes.
It's a really unique song. On other hand, I couldn't
I mean, with the exception of his voice I couldn't
tell you anything else. Russ the Roots, saying right, they
are a the classic oneiters one hit wonders right.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
Yeah, I had no idea who did the song or
I always thought it was on my Way or you know,
I didn't even know that was the lyric. But I've
heard that song so many times different places. I never
connected it to anything.
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Here's the pitch, swarming in a mess.
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He struck him out.
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Trevor McGill slams the door and the Brewers have won
six in a row. It's a six and oh road
trip for the crew, and they are the first team
in Major League Baseball to reach seventy wins. It's the
fastest to seventy wins in franchise history.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
M I mean, the Brewers are a story. You know,
misses on the on the il doesn't matter, you know,
just it doesn't matter. They just keep winning games. Crazy
crazy story. Uh okay, So Diana Tarrazzi is in the news.
She is, by many people's estimation, the greatest women's player
(13:52):
of all time. Uh So she had this to say.
There's a docuseriies on Prime and so she had this
to say about WNBA paychecks when she played.
Speaker 10 (14:05):
I'm the best player in the world and I have
to go to a communist country to get paid like
a capitalist. One time I came back and I was like, man,
my parents have just gone older and I've missed a
big part of it.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
We weren't making.
Speaker 10 (14:18):
That much money, so generational wealth was coming from going
to Russia every year. Now we have to come back
home and get paid nothing to play in a harder league,
in worse conditions against the best competition in the world.
The janitor at the arena made more than me.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay, there's a lot to it there. The first is
that we have to start with the understanding, okay, of
how it comes off. And I will be completely honest
with you. I don't always come off the way I
think I come off right. I think a lot of
us are guilty of that where you're like, man, I
(14:57):
thought that went great, and you walk out and somebody's like,
how'd it go? It was not good? You know. I
Mean I can think of times in which I've said
things on TV and on radio that I thought came
out one way, and then I listened back or watch back, like, oh,
that wasn't exactly I want to come out. But the
what's the word? The sheer, hurricance and just kind of
(15:26):
obnoxious sort of feel to it is, Uh, yeah, she
sounds obnoxious. That's that's the only real way to put it.
She sounds obnoxious. First, Russia was not a communist country
when she went there. I played in Russia before she did. Russia. Look,
(15:50):
you could they could, you could call it a dictatorship now,
but it's not a communist country has been communists. Second,
it's basic economics. Not everything that is valued in this
country is valued elsewhere. Not everything that is valued elsewhere
is valued here. Perfect example is if you're Kristin Polisic, right,
(16:13):
have you ever heard him say like, Hey, I'm the
best player on the US men's national team and I
have to go overseas to go play when my family's
at home and they're getting older. Has anybody ever said that,
what do I'd like men's soccer players? You know, they
got to go overseas. They're the best in the world,
(16:35):
and we like soccer here. We just don't have a
league where you can generate that kind of money. Where
are the MLS players coming out and going like this
is wrong? A janitor makes more than me, which, by
the way, not accurate. You're only playing for three months,
you know, back then when she was playing, and she's
(16:56):
making a ton of money, crap a ton of money
in endorsements. But again, the other part to it is
it's like, look, you basically were in a startup that
was not making money. You were working at a restaurant,
and you're comparing your restaurant to another restaurant that's been
going for one hundred years that everybody loves, right, and
(17:16):
what is it eighty five percent of restaurants fail within
the first couple of years. I don't know that number varies,
but it's just you sound most great athletes when they
get done, they have a certain confidence, but grace to
them and whatever bitterness they have may be in rivalries,
(17:39):
but all of it end up leading to this place
where I got. Consider the greatest player ever. I traveled
all over the world to play. And look at the
WNBA now as opposed to when I started. I take
a great amount of pride in it. But instead you're
sitting there complaining about a league that was hemorrhaging money
for twenty five years because you're bitter and you're jealous
that the players now, especially one particular player who you
(18:02):
don't think is at your level, is making more money
than you did. That's called being petty. Let's bring in
Dan Jeremiah. He joins us here in the Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Of course, DJ is the
lead analyst in the NFL Draft, he's the lead analyst
in the Chargers radio network, and of course he has
moved the six podcast. He joins us now on the
(18:23):
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Tradio. By the way,
so do you work for ESPN now?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I just got off of a zoom, Doug. We just
had an informational zoom kind of clarifying where everything was
with NFL network in ESPN, and I just I had
one question I wanted to ask, but I didn't get
to it, which was now that it looks like this
deal is going to happen, how long you know on
the timeline of this thing when it can be agreed to.
How long before Baldy is allowed to compete on WWE RAW.
(18:52):
I don't know, you know if that needs to wait
until everything gets finalized or you know when we can
get him in the ring.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
But it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Neat to have new partners, crazy crazy, crazy stuff. Dan
Jeremiah joins us in the Doug Gottlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Did you say we got to get
to I Loo for a quick update? Said it, yeah,
let's okay. Uh, I look, can you give me the
details of her Sean Slater really quick?
Speaker 11 (19:17):
Yeah? Today the Pro Bowl left tackle taken off the
practice field in a card. It appeared to be a
left leg injury.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (19:24):
The Athletic reported that after the injury, by the way, Hi, DJ,
glad your padres, Glad your padres are doing well, but
not really we'll get there of course. The Athletic reported
that after the injury, Slater threw his helmet, he slammed
his hand on the cart and buried his head in
his hands. That's all the details that are available right now.
This happened just over an hour ago.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Hmm.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
That's just brutal. You know, we just got the contract
done too that you know, it got out a little bit.
He had some issues with his foot, uh you know,
early on in camp, so that couple with the contract
in practicing early, but showed up in great shape and
you hoping he's going to have a monster year with
a team that wants to run the ball and has
(20:07):
really invested in the offensive line with his new contract
as well as with Joe Alt In year two, they
go out and signed Mackay Beckton. So I haven't heard
the finality of it, but when you hear those details
about you know, his head's and a towel and everybody's
coming up and tapping him on the shoulder as he's
being cart off the field. That didn't look good.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
No, no, not not not great. Have you been to
Chargers practice.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yeah, I've been out there, been out there a couple
of times. You know, they everybody's positive this time of year,
you know for sure, but they they are. I think
they're really deep on defense. I think you saw that
in the preseason game against the Lions. You know, at
Lions obviously either team playing their front line players, but
two teams that are view just haven't talented rosters, and
the back end of the back end of the roster
(20:53):
for the Chargers beat the stuffing out of the Lions.
So it's a it's a deeper team for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Let's get to what people in the league are saying.
I don't think there's no question to me that that
the Cowboys, like it's every year with the Cowboys drama, right,
every single year with the Cowboys drama. It feels like,
but in this particular case, like he's gonna play for
the Cowboys, So I mean, and he's doing a hold in.
(21:21):
So what are people in the league saying with the
Cowboys right now?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Oh, everybody's expecting them to get it done. It just
kind of seems, you know, like this is the unnecessary
path that you go down, and it gets kind of
contentious and gets ugly, but then eventually the Cowboys end
up giving in a little bit and they'll and they'll
get the deal done. So I've talked anybody in the
league that thinks this isn't going to happen. I was
out there at their joint practice with the Rams the
(21:46):
other day, and you know when Jimmy Garoppolo was just
carving him up like a Thanksgiving turkey. I think it
was pretty good idea. That'd be nice to have Michael
Parsons on that defense.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, no question, no question. Okay, what about Cleveland? You
know there's I've heard from a couple of people, not
a time, but a couple of people on television say
they're setting your door Sanders up to fail, right, throwing
them out there with the ones in the preseason game
when he's barely practiced with the ones. My perception of
(22:17):
it is like, are you kidding your fifth round draft pick?
You get a chance to play with the ones. That's great.
That gives you the best chance to succeed because you're
playing with better players that they they're actually going to
be playing this season for the Browns. What's your take
on how they're handling Shadure considering the injuries they've had
to the quarterback position.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Yeah, I kind of guess was liate to this in
terms of seeing this as a quote unquote controversy, But
I mean I'm like, am I missing something? There's just
quarterbacks are hurt, so the next guy is going to
go in and get more opportunities. Like that happens in
every camp, you know, at all different positions across the league.
Every single year. You know, you just guys get hurt
and that gives other guys opportunity to get out there
(22:57):
and play. And nobody's going to one hundred percent ready
to play as a rookie when they get out on
the field. But that's what's that's what's about. Get out there,
get some reps, get some experience, and to be honest
with you, preseason is like the most bland, you know
form of football where I think it's easiest for guys
who have talent to show out because you're not. There's
nothing's going to trick you or confusion with what they're doing.
There's nothing that your lack of experience will keep you from,
(23:20):
you know, finding success. Like it's basic, you know, junior
high level scheme. You're going to see here on both
sides of the ball. Just go out there, makes rows
make good decisions. I find it hard to do both
things right. You can't both believe in him and then
also be nervous and scared for him, Like it's not
you can't do both of those things.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, I don't. I really don't get it. I'm glad
you sort of agree with me. I just I don't
get it at all. Uh, Doug Gottlieb show here on
Fox Sports Radio, what do you think they do in
terms of who they keep.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
I've always thought that that Kenny Pickett was going to
be the odd man out and was going to be,
you know, a trade piece if there was an injury
around the league, and he would be that guy that
would be kind of sent out and see what you
can get for him. But I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I don't have any inside information there of
what that looks like with the with the young rookies.
I just it was hard for me to think that
they would, you know, they would move on from one
(24:20):
of those guys this early on in the process, not
knowing what you have to me, it makes a lot
of sense. Those guys are on the roster and Flacco.
I thought Kenny Pickett would just have to be the
light years better than everybody else to make it, and
I don't know, because of injury, that's going to be
difficult for him to do.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Archie Manning came out in a Texas publication. Fox Sports
has picked it up saying, hey, Arch is going to
be at the University of Texas next year. I'll give
you my thoughts in a second. What are your thoughts
when you hear that.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
I think that's kind of been the plan. I mean,
if you talk to anybody that's connected to the family,
that was always kind of the expectation that he was
not going to be in any hurry to rush off
to the NFL. And his dad and uncle stayed for
a while and played a lot of snaps, and I
think they're smart enough to realize, hey, let's get the
experience and get developed there at Texas where you can
playing playing with a lot of talent, coached by a
(25:15):
good quarterback guy in sark to me, I was kind
of always expected that he was going to, you know,
want to stay another year after this year. Now, who knows,
maybe he goes out Win's Heisman Trophy and he's so
much better than everybody else, and you say, what is
there left to prove? But I don't see that happening.
Speaker 9 (25:30):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And again, you know, his uncles both had the exact
same kind of path and they stayed for an extra year,
and I think he can stay for two years two
more years if you wanted anyway. But I thought to you,
like he started three games, like what are we actually.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Yeah, and if you look at it, I mean everything,
especially over the last handful of years, the guys that
have succeeded the guys who played a lot of football
in college.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, of course. Well, I don't know if you heard
the interview, but I thought it was I mean, I
think he knew what he was saying, but it came
across super weird. You know, Bengals are playing tonight and
you know they're talking about playing their guys first thing.
What do you think of some of these teams kind
of circling back to playing their starters in this first
(26:19):
preseason game.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Well, you know, Kansas City's Andy Reid's always been one
who's done that, and there's obviously merit into it, and
that there's a reason why you want to try and
get off to a hot start. You can't afford to
give away games early in the season, and even in
a seventeen game year, you want to be ready to go.
And so I get that. I think there's certain teams
and coaches that you know, couldn't get away without it.
(26:44):
Without doing it, I don't think there's just this is
the right way, that's the wrong way. I think you
got to know your team. But you know, most successful
coaches have a philosophy and they stick to it and
they you know, there's the leaf in it. And Andy
Reid's always been one who's done that. So I was
I I hated when the good guys split in the
preseason when I was with teams because I remember Johathan
Ogden getting nicked up in the in the fourth preseason
(27:05):
game one year and just being like, dude's Jonathan Ogen Like,
he doesn't need to practice. But you know, I kind
of see both sides of that argument.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Did you hear what Jamar Chase said about his quarterback?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
And he was, yeah, he was talking about uh, he
was talking about his quarterback in comparison to Josh Allen,
and he said that people don't game plan for Joe Burrow,
they game plan for Josh Allen. And I was like, wait,
what now, Obviously the ego of a wide receiver is
(27:38):
you know, the game plan for me. We got all
these weapons. But it was a really really odd statement.
Is it true?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Well, I mean I think that you know, Joe Burrow
is going to be hard to defend, just in terms
of he's equal opportunity. He's gonna he sees the entire field.
He's going to just get the ball where it needs
to go, and he's going to play the game from
the pocket. He's not going to be involved in a
lot of design quarterback runs or anything like that, whereas
Josh Allen. Maybe Josh Allen's presence can factor into what
(28:08):
safeties are doing a little bit more. And if he
starts running the ball, you got to you gotta worry
about that aspect of his game. So he's not just
like a stock pocket passing quarterback. So maybe, you know,
maybe that's what he's trying to reference, but he's got
the best stock pocket passing quarterback in the league right now.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, it was an I felt like it was an
odd statement, super super super odd.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Usually never great to talk about other guys on other teams.
That just usually as a head coach, that's good advice
and probably for a player as well.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's very very good. Adye Stan Jeremi is
our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. I feel like the NFC North is the
most interesting maybe quarterback division, And my logic behind it is, Okay,
you got Golf who's been really good the past couple
(28:59):
of years and been good at times for the Rams
as well, but now Ben Johnson's gone, what does it
look like with a different coordinator. You got Jordan Love
who last two year has been a starter, injured a
little bit last year, but also like a little bit
high on the turnover numbers. This is a big year
for them, especially considering of the rest of the division.
Then you got JJ McCarthy. What have you heard? I
(29:23):
mean again, I can't go off of one highlight on Twitter.
I can't go off of one person. But you talked
to everybody in the league. What have you heard of
about JJ McCarthy's first preseason as a starter?
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yeah, I've heard just okay, hasn't blown anybody away. But
we talked about this on our podcast last week. I
agree with you because I had the same take, which
was that division. You know, the focus on those quarterbacks
probably the more fascinating, most fascinating one in the league,
and not just for you know, how does JJ step
into a complete team? You look at Caleb like the
(29:58):
excuses have been going to be stripped this year with
with Ben Johnson, with an upgraded offensive line, Jordan Love
and the Packers are kind of like a sneaky team
and that I don't know anybody talks about them amongst
this division. You know, they just kind of don't get
a lot of attention. But they could be really really
good if he continues to uh, if he takes a
big step this year. And then I saw the Lions
(30:19):
of the Night and it's preseason. I learned that playing
their guys, but you know there's gonna be questions about
them losing their coordinators and what does that look like?
And you know, so I think it's I think it's
going to be a division we focus and I think
the two the number one storyline in the league for
me this year is going to be the second year quarterbacks.
All those guys we saw start last year and uh,
and they've got two of them in that division.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah. Uh, he's the one and only Daniel Jeremiah. He
is now an employee of the Worldwide Leader as well,
and he's made in many hats and many I so
you haven't gotten to the NFL draft. I don't know
what that's gonna look like. Next year, that's gonna be
found it fascinating, right, are they gonna do theirs and
you guys do your I.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Think I think I think this first year for sure,
everything's the status quo and then I mean, I won't
speak out a turn on that, but I think they're
you know, they under their way of doing business. You
think about the National Championship Game for football and all that.
They have all those different viewing opportunities and streams. So
I know there's I've got a lot of people like, oh,
what's going to happen the NFL network draft coverage? I like, well,
(31:21):
I think that I think that'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
He's DJ Dan Jerem. Check out download the Move the
Sticks podcast. I encourage you to do so. It's awesome, DJ,
thanks for being our guest.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
Thanks. And the dodgerss just through the ball awing. Oh
no they're off today, that'll be tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Well look a look at look at look at the
parting ways in which he just knife yet just knife
she Jase do knife yet?
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Four hundred million dollars. You think you get a little
more than that with a payroll? Four hundred million bucks.
That's just me.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah. Well it's okay. I mean, listen, all this you
know this is this is bitterness over the Padres choking
last offseason when they were talking all that trash.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
If we didn't choke last year, it would have been
three straight years first round exit for the Dodgers. They'll
probably get bounce in the first year this year, so
it's just three out of four years we'll have to start.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
All Jase, that's an all timer. If we didn't choke
last year, Yeah, we had.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Old if Yeah, if the Dodgers didn't win the World Series,
we would have not won the World Series. If if
if Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah two games to one lead and yeah, how that
work out for it? Thanks? Thanks Dejail.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Let's get to a game.
Speaker 6 (32:33):
This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Isaac Low and Crow. What's the game today?
Speaker 11 (32:40):
Feeling frosty, Doug.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
I feel a draft.
Speaker 11 (32:49):
The subject of today's draft. We're gonna draft the college
football team that interests you the most this season. So
this is something that can go in a lot of
different directions snake for Matt, starting with Doug having the
number one pick, then Sam is gonna pick Iowa, then Jason,
then back around again. I already placed a bet on
(33:11):
the number two pick. All right, Doug, we'll start with you.
Today's topic again, the college football team that interests you
the most this season.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I'm gonna take North Carolina. North Carolina. I know it's
year one, your ones are hard, seventy new players, you know,
it's it's very difficult. But Bill Belichick is widely regarded
as the greatest coach of our generation. I want to
see what that looks like in college football.
Speaker 11 (33:43):
Okay, thank you, That's who I was gonna pick. To
be honest with you. Number two picks, Sam.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
All right, I'm I'm not.
Speaker 8 (33:50):
Gonna you're you're struggling, You're biting you up. I am
interested in several teams in the Big ten. Let's go
with Penn State, all right, and the pole that just
came out the preseason ranking. They're still behind Ohio State,
but a lot of people are thinking Penn State. With
Drew allerback, k Tron Allen, Nick Singleton in the backfield,
I'm sure they have a bunch of studs on defense.
(34:11):
They are There are a lot of expectations on Penn State, Doug,
You've talked about it. Can James Franklin really push push
it over the hill? They won a couple of playoff
games last year. If you can't win the Big Ten,
but he can win the national championship, you are king
of the castle. So if if you can go that
route and win it all, he'll probably stay there for life.
So Penn State I'm drafting at number two overall.
Speaker 11 (34:32):
Number three pick Jason Stewart.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
Oh, I can't believe you guys left this to me.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
I'm always interested to see how a defending champion plays,
especially a defending champion with a head coach who colors
oh sorry, got rid of the negative reputation, but still
hasn't beaten Michigan in quite some time. Ohio State is
my pick at number three. I lope more.
Speaker 11 (34:56):
Big curiosity at number four forces and compels me to
take USC because even though I'm in a lum, I
have followed the disaster that has Los Angeles college football
and the expectations and the turning of the fans who
thought that Chip Kelly was going to be the saving
grace at UCLA. They turned on him. I'm not saying
(35:17):
it was a bad idea for them too. And now
it's the same thing with Lincoln Riley. They think that
he's going to be the saving grace and they have
turned on him as well, and his stock is at
an all time low with the fifth pick. Meanwhile, I'm
going to take a wild card Arizona State under the radar.
I really like the direction that that program has gone
in under a talented young head coach in Kenny Dillingham.
(35:38):
Now back to Jason Steart for the number six.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Pick, Dilly, Oh wow, this is the year that we
see if Cayln de Borow is closer to Saban than
Dennis FRANCIONI very good, Kaylyn de bor at Alabama.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I'm watching you closely.
Speaker 11 (35:59):
Join the club seven pick Sam.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Staying in the Big ten. Not Iowa.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
Indiana football can do, shirt Signetti.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
You got about a minute left.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Year.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
They're on also receiving both votes. I'm not gonna pick
iye with us, so they out goes Curtis Rourke, who
came from Ohio into Indiana obviously went the playoff. Incomes
Fernando Mendoza, from Cassall.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
We don't we running out of time and I got
another pick?
Speaker 8 (36:26):
Okay, Well, I'm just gonna say Indiana football has some
guys back, a lot of high expectations for the Hoosiers,
who had no expectations.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Before final pick.
Speaker 8 (36:33):
Doug Gottlibe Penn State already picked Penn State.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Oh I'm sorry, Oklahoma State, that's Mount Matter. I care.
Then they're terrible last year, but they beat Arkansas and
then they were terrible. It was really weird.
Speaker 11 (36:48):
That wraps up this edition of I Feel a Draft.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Game. This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
The year was two thousand and seven, two thousand and seven.
Where were you? What were you doing? What were you thinking? Well,
we're gonna throw it back, but don't call it a throwback.
It is Thursday. It's dex to the Doug outlib Show.
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