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October 1, 2025 • 37 mins

Dan and Monse in for Doug as they discuss MLB's Wild Card round and what could be done to make it more interesting to attend. Dan and Monse react to Colin Cowherd's take that AJ Brown should ask for a trade from the Eagles. Briana Muro takes Dan and Monse through a game of "For Better or Worse?".

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Happy Wednesday to you and yours who hump day. You
could have a lot of different meetings for a Wednesday
for some of us who are here on Sunday, like yourself, Well,
it's not even your hump day because you are here. Oh,
I know Saturday and Sunday, but now you're starting the week.
It's kind of a hump day for me. We're just

(00:39):
happy it's Wednesday. We made it to Wednesday. We're a
day away from Week five in the NFL and more.
College football and baseball has been able to soothe our
senses for at least a few days in these afternoons
with the wild card games. But I'm telling you, Moncie,
not everything is right with these best of three series.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
I don't I don't disagree with you there, Dan, could
we have been more interested in the games happening on Sunday?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I'll I think there's a lot to that and what's
going on with this landscape of major League Baseball right now,
because I think it's neats. I think it's great when
you're at work. Maybe you're in Cleveland, maybe you're in Detroit.
Maybe you're a Tigers or Guardians fan, Cubs and Padres
about to get underway from Wrigley in San Diego. Maybe

(01:27):
not a lot of work is getting done today, and
it's great to have meaningful baseball during the day. I
understand all of that. I get all of that, but
I'm just wondering on how much stock is being put
into these best of three series. You're a Dodgers fan.
The Dodgers welcome the Reds to town last night in

(01:47):
Game one of a series where the Dodgers have had
the Reds number all season long, and it happened again
last night. Now, there may have been some hairy instances,
but by and large, the Dodgers were basically in cruise
control for much of the night. You're at Dodger Stadium.
I don't know how many times a week, but you're
there every single week of the season and every single

(02:08):
week of the off season. Was there any buzz in
advance of last night's Wildcards start against the Reds.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
No, not a lot. It was not a sold out game.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
You could have still literally walked up to the stadium
to the box office and bought tickets. In fact, I
think you could have gotten cheaper tickets from third party
of season ticket holders who did not seem to care
necessarily about playing the Cincinnati Reds in a Wildcard series
best of three in LA. And it has more to
do with a couple things. As a Dodger fan, we've

(02:39):
done this before, we've been here. Yes, a lot like
going to the postseason. We're very lucky fan base.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
We go.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
That's our norm is to go to the postseason. And
I do think if the Mets would have clinched, it
would have been different. I do think that. I think
there's a little bit more bad blood but with the Reds, like,
oh the Reds are in?

Speaker 4 (02:58):
How great is that? I love Kelly, Yes, I love
Ellie de Lacruz.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know, Hunter Green goes back to where his roots
are from first playoff game in LA.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
That's tough for anybody.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
He gets quickly lit up lead off home run from
sho Heyo Toanni settles in but Blake's out, Like you
said in Cruise Control, there was a moment where the yeah, yeah, yeah,
we were at the edge of our seats because our
poopin likes to do that to us. But luckily we
ended up coming out with the win. But it wasn't
a sold out game. Even our tours were not that busy,
Like it was such a calm day for a quote

(03:34):
unquote postseason October baseball.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Not really, but baseball?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Does that make a bad baseball fan? Like, I'm not
saying that the Dodgers are baseball fans. Are they spoiled fans?

Speaker 3 (03:47):
How can I say that we're not spoiled? Of course
we are. Of course we are. And it's like, does
that make us a bad fan? I don't know, But
maybe it's just or is it that the wild Card
series extending this way was unnecessary?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I almost feel that the Dodgers because and I don't
think it's just a Dodger thing. I think it's with
the Atlanta Braves in the nineties and two thousands, when
the playoffs weren't as even a substantial as they are nowadays.
I think we criticized Braves fans in the past of
not showing up because they were so used to winning

(04:24):
the division title and so used to playing divisional playoff
games when all that mattered were league championship series and
World Series. It's kind of like the Patriots in the
AFC East. You would not buy an AFC East champion
shirt in the Tom Brady era because it was such
a given. Now, if you were the Jets or the

(04:46):
Dolphins or during that time, the Bills, absolutely it was
a rarity. You would wear it twice a week if
you could. I would have worn it three times a
week at school Monday, Wednesday and Friday. May not even
have watched it because I wouldn't want the ink to
wear off of it.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Mariners fans, Yes, that's.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Exactly, Yes, exactly that they are. They are living the
high and they get that.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Absolutely, so funny that you say that, because my dad
asked me to buy I'm a divisional hat and I said, why.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Do you make them? Do they make them? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (05:15):
No, no, no they do.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
But my dad, I said, why, bah, why you have
last years?

Speaker 4 (05:21):
And I think I gave you the year before, Like
I couldn't believe he asked me for that.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
He's crazy. They should just put like a rotational number.
You know that that you change at the end, right right.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
That would be funnier and more correct. Jesus, change it.
Take the year each night.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
You could be like, what division champions should be? You
gonna rock, I'm gonna go twenty twenty two. So then
you just adjust the number on the half.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
I love that. Hold on, jan write that down. You're
onto something. That's a great idea.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
You could do it. I mean, like truly, And that's
that's the spoiled nature of it. Doesn't make them a
bad fan. It's just there are bigger fish to fry
correct And I think that's what's kind of starting to
get at what we saw last night. Jason Stewart, EXECUTIVETTY
user of the show noted Dodger fan thoughtful critic as
we allude to him when Doug is out. But you

(06:08):
were critic co of the Dodgers fans last night, not
of the not showing up to Monzie's point where you
could get cheaper tickets on the secondary market than just
walking up to the box office. You were more critical
of what was happening on the back end of last
night's game.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yeah, I mean, if you're a Dodger fan, you know
the volatility of our bullpen. You've seen it all year,
so it just struck me as strange. And if the
crowd wasn't a sold out, that's fine, but the people
that were there had been leaving before the seventh inning,
and I just had to look this up to make
sure I got it right. The Reds entered the eighth

(06:43):
inning down ten to two. They got the tying run
on deck at some point due to the clumsy nature
of our bullpen, and I'm thinking, if I've paid money
to go see a playoff game, why would I leave.
It's almost like you have to be counterin in tuitive
as a Dodger fan who wants to beat the traffic
can be like the worst part of our team is

(07:04):
the bullpen. The drama might be right around the corner.
It almost forces you to stick around and make sure.
So I just thought it was a weird, a weird
thing to see.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
And I think that's the bigger picture of it. Because
Jason called it a playoff game, it is a playoff
game where in the postseason, I don't think everyone looks
at it like that. I'm looking at Wrigley right now,
I don't see an empty seat atall. Cubbs have made
it to the postseason for the first time since twenty twenty.
It's also a thing to do. It's Wrigley Field Day

(07:33):
Baseball and Monci and you can win this series today,
So there's a reason to show up. And this is
why I'm not blaming Dodger fans and I'm not calling
Dodger fans spoiled because I look at what's happening in
Cleveland right now, and Breeze going to have our update
on what's happening between the Tigers and Guardians. But it's
bottom of the sixth inning, one to one. Detroit is

(07:55):
up one to zero in the series. The story of
the last month in Major League Baseball is better and
the collapse of the Tigers and the rise of the Guardians.
Believe Land was the name that was brought back because
of what Cleveland was doing. And yesterday I saw on
social media various shots of not one not to but

(08:16):
a variety of empty seats in the lower bowl and
a variety of empty seats in the upper deck. Yes,
he was going to get to variety if Lebron kept
on talking. There was so many empty seats. Now you're
saying how many empty seats were they were there. I
can't give you an exact number, but I can't tell

(08:38):
you this that the Guardians game yesterday against the Tigers
drew twenty six and sixty eight fans. That isn't capacity, right.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, that sounds low.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
What is capacity the last week? And I'll get to
that number in just a second.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
That's okay.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Last week the Tigers and Guardians played a series for
the division, right and they were battling for their playoff lives.
Every single one of those three games drew higher than
Game one of the wild card series yesterday.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Well, damn, that's part of the problem. Why are they
seeing each other?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
We just saw how many games between the I was
gonna say the Cavaliers, the Guardians and the Tigers. If
you were a Guardians fan, like you said, this was
the most interesting story the last month of baseball. At
one point, fifteen games, fifteen and a half games out

(09:39):
right here they are winning the division. If you were
a Guardians fan, you probably spent your money this.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Past home stand, right you, You spent your.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Money this past home stand, and now the people are
here like great, So I paid money to watch this
team again.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
That's this isn't I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
This is why you can't fool base. Yes, is because
they understand, they understand what is happening and what is
at stake. Last week, the game against the Tigers, of
them making or not making the postseason was much more valuable.
It completed their journey, this this run that they were on,

(10:18):
that's what it was a part of. Now. I understand
the game was in the daytime yesterday, the three games
against the Tigers were in the evening. But I just
don't know how you could ever say that a regular
season game would draw more than a playoff game. And
that is what we have here. And the Cubs today

(10:39):
can clinch. The Yankees cannot clinch. If you have a
Yankees ticket tonight at Yankee Stadium, I don't know if
you would why you would use the ticket, Manci, because
if you were to pay money for that ticket, you
are either seeing your team live another day to Game three,
which is the much more valuable ticket the next day,

(11:01):
or you're watching them lose and have their season end.
There's just not as much value for all of these teams. Now,
the Mariners different. I actually thought it was going to
be different with Cleveland. Yeah, but it wasn't Maybe the Cubs,
maybe the Mariners, who we don't know because they have
their buy And I think the best of five series
is different than the best of three. But for Major

(11:22):
League Baseball to expand these playoffs and to have this
best of three series, one of the biggest things that
I think is a detriment to seeing it is fans
know what these series are. These maybe aren't the real playoffs.
These are the playoffs to get you into the playoffs.
The stretcher under the regular season, I think meant more

(11:43):
to some of these teams and some of these fans
than these actual best of three series going on right now.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
I love that line, Dan that you can't fool baseball
fans because to this Yankee Red Sox series, if you
are a fan of either teammates and the Yankees, you're
probably expecting to go beyond your expecting. I know you're
down right now, but you're probably expecting to go beyond
the wildcard, right And so Yankee fans are like, I
see the Red.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Sox all the damn time, all the damn time. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
How to fix the wildcard situation in Baseball by adding
these wildcards.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
But I hate that Detroit and.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Cleveland are playing against each other, and I hate that
the Red Songs and the Yankees are playing against each other.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
I don't know how to fix it, but they shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
You shouldn't see a division rival in the wildcard when
you already see them so many times throughout the regular season.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
The drawback is is somebody's going to get an unfair
draw then because you're trying to.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
The life is not fair?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Okay, then what what Here's.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
I don't have the solution. I'm just telling you I
don't like it.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, I actually, and I'm totally fine with that. Like
ninety nine percent of the time you're saying like, okay,
you have a problem, tell me the better solution. I
don't know what. I don't know, because what about if
you had three teams from the division all make the wildcard?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Well, then somebody flips a coin and you're right.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Somewhere like the Red Sox, Orioles and Yankees were all
totally somebody's gonna have to play somebody.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Somebody is.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
But at least like that's that seems like an even
you know, more crazier situation. But this this happens like
two years ago. Dodgers should not have played the Podgers
in the wild Guard series. Like I I just don't
like it, and I don't know the solution, but somebody
can think of something.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Do you think it would make it more makes it
more interesting? You just said that if the Mets and
Dodgers played that it would have been a more interesting
I think.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
So, yes, because I think there's a little bit more
bad blood. Also, the Mets have a guy what's his name,
what's his name? Wan Soto Dan that guy also what's
his other name? A Pete Alonzo that literally said remember
in the clubhouse after they lost, I'm out, I'm opting
out of my contract because I'm over this in Francisco
and there's just more interesting players. The Reds are just

(13:54):
like a young, fun team, Like they're good and they're young,
and they're exciting to watch, especially Elie Dela Cruz. But
the names don't draw you in yet because it's the
Reds and nobody expected them.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
To be here.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
The divisional series will, I think will be sold out,
especially in the markets like Seattle, YEP, like Milwaukee, like Toronto.
I think that you're going to see, so I'll never
get amount of I'm gonna give you a little. You
think it's going to be like that They've had success
but but.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Still underwhelming the last.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
If they're playing the Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yes, yes, then it'll be And that's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yes, yes, so that that will be the case. Do
you think there's a big problem Jason, Like, do you
do you find the Dodgers fans leaving early outside of
the bullpen? In issue? Do you find Cleveland not drawing
as much as they did during the regular season in issue?
In baseball?

Speaker 5 (14:45):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (14:45):
I do?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
I think there also is a socioeconomic angle to this.
I think in the Detroit, Cleveland, these city, these kind
of Midwest cities, it's kind of rough. Who call her,
I guess you would call it have been struck and
kind economic bad times. Maybe we're holding them under a
different kind of barometer here because you know that Chicago's
gonna be full, LA should be full, New York should

(15:08):
be full. There are a lot of people, there are
a lot of people make a lot of money. I
do think that the solution that Manzi's might be searching
for is this is I also, and I think a
lot of people hate the fact that there are division
opponents in that wild card round. I don't think it's
fair to either team that you're going to play a
team for a three game series that you've already seen

(15:30):
eighteen times. I think that it's unfair to everybody, and
the fan base is included. So you just say, major
League Baseball says you can't play your own division in
the first round and lesser's extenuating circumstances and three teams
get in. How often do that? Does that happen? And
so in this case, what the Tigers would have played

(15:50):
the Yankees and the Red Sox would have played the Guardian, Right.
I don't know if that would affect the box office
for if that's a different topic, But I think there
is a solution that Baseball could throw out there with
just certain caveats.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
There's also so you'd rather see if you're a Yankees
a Red Sox fan, those teams play in the divisional
series or the league championship series. Right, There's there's there's
no there's no argument about that. But there's also a
point with Major League Baseball that says we'll take what
we can get because there's no guarantee that the Yankees
and Red Sox would win their series. And then so
now we're missing out. We just missed out on possibly

(16:27):
three games of Yankees Red Sox because we have zero
because one of the teams didn't win or neither of
the teams won. In looking for that, I understand what
you're talking about in fairness for these teams, But then
it's unfair for a higher seeded team, say the division winner,
to have to play against a better wild card team
just because you didn't want to, you know, I.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Mean, you still go, you still get your home field advantage.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
So if you're the so so the Guardians and Tigers,
this would this would be the scenario that we laid out.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
The Guardians would played so exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
And the Tigers would have hosted The Yankees would.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Have hosted the Tigers, and the Tigers are still on
the road, so it doesn't change much for them.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Is that fair to Cleveland? You think that they would
rather face the Red Sox than the team that they've
played all season long?

Speaker 3 (17:19):
I do, I do, especially because of their particular schedule
that ended playing against each other, Like, wouldn't you want
a break from that?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
That's how the cookie crumbles matches in the NFL Week eighteen,
Week seventeen, that you gotta play him in the wild card.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
The next think sure, yeah, yeah, life is on.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Fare latimistic that you just pocket the matchup that you
can again, because there's no guarantee the best series for clevel.
I mean, the Yankees are kind of the Yankees and
Dodgers are maybe they have this this I was going
to say, a bulletproof sort of thing where it's it's
not going to be a bad series when the Yankees
come to town. It's not going to be a bad

(17:58):
series when the Dodgers come to town. Like talking about
the Phillies. No disrespect to the Reds, but that's you know,
a scenario here. But how many how many opponents of
the Guardians can you have that you would think like,
all right, the crowd's really going to show up like
I thought it would be the Tigers, but apparently it's not.
By the way, Progressive Field, thirty four thousand, eight hundred

(18:18):
and thirty is the capacity, and so they got twenty
six that eight thousand empty seats or non sold tickets
in yesterday's game. I'm just I'm just saying like, if
you were to if you were to mess everything up
for the sake of just trying to protect certain teams,
that's not necessarily fair to the other teams. And then

(18:39):
it's not necessarily beneficial to some of those other teams
as well. So you got to kind of stick with
the standings.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
I mean, maybe it was just a wrong decision to extend.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Play better, Dodgers, play better, Dodgers, get a bye, and
then we're not gonna go.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
I don't know, I don't know if that's any better.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, keep done and you know, get a buye and
then not worry about it.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Can I speak to one thing that you said that
I hadn't even thought about. If you have a Yankees
ticket today, are you going? The brilliance in that question
is like, do you want to go to a game
where you're going to lose to your arch enemy? The
chance of losing to your arch enemy and how bad
you're going to feel? And Yankee fans tend to be pessimistic,

(19:21):
They tend to be what's a thoughtful whatever I'm called.
That would be a dreadful experience to go to that
game to see them lose tonight to the Red Sox.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Specifically, and if you were to go tonight, why wouldn't
you just go tomorrow?

Speaker 8 (19:39):
Right?

Speaker 7 (19:39):
You would wait for a game three absolutely, So if
you have to get off of work early because it's
what six o'clock Eastern time, the first pitch starts, you
make your plans, you.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Would do it for tomorrow absolutely because you would also say, well,
if they don't play tomorrow, then at least I didn't
go there and watch them lose. So that's the other
portion of this. When you have a three straight home games,
which I think is fine. I'm actually I'm fine with that.
I think it also gives the division winner at least
an advantage. Totally totally in that in that series. But

(20:10):
there's just not a lot of value when you drop
game one to buy a game two.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
If we were to do what you know, Jason and
I want of making it that you cannot play a
division team for the wildcard, then that would put more
emphasis on winning the division and having the home field,
because I feel like now because of this edition of
the walld Cards, like some teams are like, hey, it's
fine if we don't want the division, we'll just get
in there anyway. Yeah, people have more emphasis on winning

(20:37):
the division.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
You just said it that the Dodgers you weren't good
with the Buye, so maybe they're like, hey, let's play
some baseball and leading into the best of five. If
you're playing against the Phillies who are rested, and I.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Know you don't want to like plan like that, be like, no,
we should try, we should lose, lose this game, so
we don't. I know you don't want to do that,
but I just rest versus rust is a real thing.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
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Speaker 9 (21:08):
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Speaker 4 (21:19):
I hope it's not a nauseating Wednesday for you.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Dan, It's not.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Good good Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Better could have been better.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
It could have been Yes, Monty, He's Dan Byer the
Doug Gottlieb Show.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I got into a little fender bender before the show.
I'm sorry, but that's all I'm gonna say about it.
That is advised by my attorneys, you.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Know, yeah, and I'm his attorney, and Dan, I think
you have an argument here.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I will see, We'll see.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
I think he does.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
I'll tell you who doesn't have an argument, A J. Brown.
You know who else doesn't have an argument? Colin Cowhard, Monty.
I'm telling you this is this is the there's this
is not meant to be fill in hosts on Superstar,
Top of the Line, Hall of Fame, Talent Crime. But

(22:12):
Colin Cowherd said something earlier today on The Herd a
disagreement that he and Jason McIntyre had between each other.
Doug has a segment that in his podcast, and we've
had it on the show before. It's called what does
the Fox Say? We play a little intro and it
said it sounds like this. And now, so Colin Coward

(22:34):
said something about AJ Brown that just blew my mind
today after AJ Brown sent a cryptic tweet after the
Eagles win. After the Eagles win on Sunday against the Buccaneers,
nine targets, two receptions, seven yards. That was the stat
line for AJ Brown. This is Colin's take on AJ

(22:56):
Brown in his future in Philadelphia, and.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
I had a disagreement on this. I said, you an accountant,
a judge, a novelist, an actor. In most careers you
got about twenty five years of prime and you can
work to your seventies. You can't as a pro football player.
And so AJ Brown and I do think winning matters,
but he's already got a trophy. I do think if

(23:21):
you went to Kobe and said let'sten, you get six
shots a game, Kobe would have been like, peace out,
I'm going to go somewhere else. AJ Brown gets fewer
yards than the third Buffalo Bills tight end. He's got
money and he's got a trophy. His legacy is on
the line. He's not necessary. They try to target him

(23:44):
nine targets seven yards most.

Speaker 9 (23:47):
Of the time.

Speaker 8 (23:48):
He's just not And I think if I was AJ Brown,
this sounds selfish, but I think pro athletes get cornered
into well, well it's about winning games. Well that's part
of it, and it's transformation money and there's legacies involved.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
And my take is, if I was a J.

Speaker 8 (24:03):
Brown, I'd go to Philadelphia and I'd say quietly, I'm
not gonna screw the market.

Speaker 10 (24:06):
Up.

Speaker 8 (24:06):
I'm not gonna do a mellow with the Nuggets to
the Knicks. I don't want to be here. Make a deal.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
I think A. J.

Speaker 8 (24:12):
Brown has a right to leave. I am defending him
not staying with a better organization. Am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Nine trillion percent? I don't know if it goes up
to nine trillion, but he is nine trillion percent wrong.
When in sports have we ever said, you know what,
screw the winning?

Speaker 9 (24:30):
Never?

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Not one?

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yeah, it is about no, it's only about winning. That
is the whole point, Colin, what are you talking about? Also?

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Also, also, since when is the legacy of AJ Brown
something to compare to the legacy of Kobe Bryant?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Never?

Speaker 8 (24:47):
What?

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Not even sort of? And actually I think if you
did tell.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Kobe, hey, you can only take six shots, but you're
gonna win, I think he'd be like, well, damn, because
Kobe did care about winning.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Kobe. Yeah, Kobe, I would say. Kobe is famous for saying,
you'd never go like one of twelve, He'd go one
of twenty. You just keep shooting. However, However, to your
point about Team USA and winning a gold medal, Kobe
had his role, took it upon himself as the leader
and that that was his role. Exactly to your point,
AJ Brown is not Kobe Bryant. AJ Brown On the

(25:19):
list of important Philadelphia Eagles, it may not be top five.
And the issue to me is it continues to be
AJ Brown.

Speaker 10 (25:28):
Now.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
The Philadelphia Eagles playcate this sort of activity, so they're
on the hook for it. Monzie. Why would they get
rid of AJ Brown when they're the ones who have
been actually encouraging this by giving him a three year,
ninety six million dollar deal after he was reading a
book on the sidelines that was last year, but after
he sulked after only getting three catches in a playoff

(25:50):
win against the Giants. AJ Brown has always been about
AJ Brown and at no point has the Philadelphia Eagles
success ever depended upon a Jay Brown. And it's just
crazy for me to hear Colin say AJ Brown, who
now has a Super Bowl ring, should go and get
his When what about back to back? What about trying

(26:14):
to be a great wide receiver in that way? What
about coming up big in a playoff game? That's what's
ahead for AJ Brown. Him going having fifteen hundred yards
somewhere else is not going to change the legacy of
AJ Brown. He's not going into the Hall of Fame.
None of that is true. The fantasy world that Colin
thinks could be ahead for AJ Brown doesn't exist.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yeah, I really don't understand what Colin is defending. Like, okay,
let him leave. I think the Eagles would be like,
all right, buye thank you take your stuff, make sure buy.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
And then the Eagles would continue and nothing would change.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
You know who's got the you know who's got the
most probably bone to pick with all of this, because
you're right, nothing has nothing has changed with the Eagles
because they again, they courage this sort of behavior. But
how do you feel if you're Jalen Hurts that here's
this guy. We criticize Jalen Hurts enough enough with despite

(27:11):
the success that he has had, right, nine targets in
two catches for seven yards, we can look at that
and say, obviously they're just not on the same page.
When he gets three catches in a playoff game against
the Giants for only forty some yards and he's not happy,
we understand that's not a great game, but again, you
won the game. But these also, subliminally, Manzi are shots

(27:34):
at Jalen Hurts, like why aren't they on the same page.
You've been together now for multiple seasons and you can't
figure out a rhythm or a rapport like Matthew Stafford
and Pukainakua would not have a nine target, two reception
game like, It's just not going to happen. And every
time AJ Brown does this, it is an indirect shot

(27:56):
at Jalen Hurts. So if you're the Philadelphia Eagles, if
AJ Brown wants to do quiet stuff and trade them,
that's fine. Don't trade him so he can get his numbers,
trade them so he stops undermining your quarterback. That would
be the only reason that I would say to get
rid of AJ Brown, who right now hasn't necessarily been
the factor that the Eagles would have hoped when they
gave him a ninety six million dollar contract.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
You know, I actually never thought of it that way,
that he was undermining Jalen Hurts, And you make excellent points.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
You're right, that is probably what he's trying to do.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
But I never thought of it that way because even
though Jalen Hurts gets criticized enough, you know what he does,
he does what he's asked when he needs to do it. So, yeah,
like he may not throw the ball, but I've seen
him damn take you down the field throwing the ball
when he needs to do I've seen him do it
a couple damn times. So it's like, it's not it's
not Jalen Hurts. Maybe it's you aj Brown because him

(28:47):
and Dallas Goddard seem to connect whenever he needs to whenever,
whenever he needs to, Dallas Goddard is.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
There for him.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
So it's just kind of like, yeah, but the Eagles
game isn't always to throw the ball because you have
Jalen Hurts, you take one Barkley, but when he needs
to get you down field throwing the ball, he has.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
Been doing that.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
They're four, and oh they're a weird four and oh
yes they completely are. I wonder like if they if
they were functional, not dysfunctional, how dominant.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
They would be this this team could be right.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I mean, this is hours after beating the Buccaneers in
a road game, where again he had two catches for
seven yards on the nine targets. If you're not welcomed,
not listen to quietly withdraw, don't make a scene, shrug
your shoulders and be on your way. That's that's what
he posted. Posting a tweet like that is the exact
opposite of quietly withdrawing, not making a scene. And it's

(29:44):
not shrugging your shoulders and going on your way. You
are putting up a stink. The tweet is still up there,
four point two million views. For some reason, twelve thousand
people liked it. I have no idea what's wrong with
those twelve thousand people in Colin Coward. But man A J.
Brown just continues, there's the Eagles keep on winning this
so there's no way they can be like, see, look

(30:04):
at what he torpedoed.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
But I think you also hit on something else that
maybe he realizes, like you are not even a top
five Eagle, Like he just wants to be talked about.
He wants to be the center of attention. He wants
to be the guy, and you are on a team
that yeah, you're you're not talked about and there's still
success despite you and your antics.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I don't know how this works. You're you're right like
they somehow make this work. Jalen Hurts must have the
thickest skin of any quarterback in the NFL, because there's
just that it's bad enough to hear the outside noise
from from everybody else, But now they have to deal
with it within your locker room after you've won a
super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
How close do you think they're sitting next to each
other in my locker room?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
But h well, you know what he does read a
book on the sidelines like that's look at that, Look
at that growth, look at that. That's that was on
the same page. I've never ever seen. I've seen more
hot dogs than books on sidelines of NFL games of
guys eating hot dogs and blowout games. Right, yes, there's
the Seahawks actually did it way back in the day

(31:10):
as well, like they were playing a preseason game against
the forty nine ers. I think they were eating hotdogs.
I've seen more tubed meat on the sidelines than I
have novels. But last year, when when aj Brown sits
on the bench and brings out a book, we have
people defending look at this growth, look at this mental strength.
There wasn't a bookmark in the book. Okay, there wasn't

(31:31):
like I left off on page two sixty eight, there
was none of that.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
So how it's terrible reading while your team is playing?
How is that growth?

Speaker 3 (31:42):
I understand I thought growth would be being there cheering
your teammates on being a good a good buddy when
they come on off the field.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Come on, man, not sitting there.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Well, Growth was in chapter twenty eight, which he hadn't
yet gotten to in that book that he was reading.
But hey, great job by Aj Brown to read a
book on the sideline.

Speaker 9 (32:00):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. It's well underways baseball season,
Baseball's postseason this year. She's Monte Milanios. I'm Dan Byer
in for Doug Gottlieb today here on Fox Sports Radio.
Jason Stewart and I with Sam hanging out, as is
Brianna Muro and she's here with a game.

Speaker 9 (32:29):
This is game time game on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
An they're not hearing it on the podcast. Was it
was that bias like go Cubs Go, Sam, you're surd
of the Cubs today? That's the Cubs. Yeah, that's like
their fight song, the Cubs. Who does that? Let's see you?

Speaker 8 (32:46):
So?

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I don't know who does it, but it's that that's
their song, Bri, what do we got today?

Speaker 10 (32:50):
We got for better or worse?

Speaker 9 (32:52):
For better or worse?

Speaker 2 (32:54):
All right later honest?

Speaker 10 (32:56):
Okay, so the best of three, five or seven games? Youies,
just in postseason? What do you guys prefer? Like, what's
better or worse?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Tell you what's worse? Three game series?

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Ah?

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Is that the worst?

Speaker 9 (33:09):
You know?

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I call I kind of like a three game series
because it's it's more quick, stressful, also stress just stressful.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
In a three game series, the best team doesn't necessarily win,
and so I kind of like that.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
You like the randomness, the true winner? Yes, you like
the flute? Damn it was bad enough. I felt like
when you had five game series compared to the seven
the people are like, these five games aren't enough in
Major League Baseball. Now you go to three, you have
a bad weekend. Yeah, like the Yankee season. On Sunday

(33:46):
they're playing for a division crown, and how by Wednesday
night this season could be over with.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
I know I sound crazy too quick, but I do
like a wild Cards.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Three is the worst of all of them. Three three
is worse?

Speaker 4 (33:58):
All right, On to the next one.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, okay?

Speaker 10 (34:01):
Yankees versus Dodgers Which bullpen would you rather be dealing
with right now?

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Neither neither, But if you had to, well, I'm gonna
take the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
I would take the Dodgers just because as of late,
I know, yesterday, I know, I know it took like
a million pitches to get out of that Indian with
our three bullpen pitchers, and then Blake Trina came in
and looked.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Better, but it has I'll take the Dodgers because I
have to stay loyal.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
At least they may be playing another day as opposed
to the Yankees as well.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
This is true. This is true.

Speaker 10 (34:36):
Okay, Brian Snicker and Bruce Boshee both have left their
managerial roles in the last few days. So between the
Rangers and the Braves, which organization would be better to go?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Kind of like join right now? Listen, summers are going
to be sweltering no matter where you go. But I've
always liked Atlanta as a city, so I think that
Atlanta is the better spot over Texas. There's stay has
zero character, not like the suburbian one in Atlanta has
tons of it. But I've heard good things. I haven't

(35:07):
been to either, but I think I'd rather just live
in Atlanta and live in Dallas or Arlington.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Sure worth, listen, I point take in, But based on
the rosters, I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Take the Braves roster over the Texas roster. I think
the Braves have a good team. The Braves have had
one of the worst records when it came to one
run games. They were like bottom three. So if they
would have won a few more of those one run
games that they lost, they probably would have been in
the playoffs. I know the Texas the Rangers were also
fighting for it, but I like the Braves roster way better.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
I would take the Braves.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Monty's talking stats. I'm just talking to Jai to live.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
I'm like, who can I win with? Because I care
about winning. I'm like aj Brown.

Speaker 10 (35:49):
I was waiting for like some Magic City references or
something in Atlanta or like something.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Now, no, I just give me that roster. All good, Okay?

Speaker 10 (35:56):
Sports month wise, now we're entering October. October versus November.
Now the bat NBA is kind of coming back along
with college football kind of ramping up. Like what's kind
of better or worse between those two months.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
October is way better because Halloween is also a bit
of it. I know people love Thanksgiving, but Halloween is
my jams. October is everything, everything comes back.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Give me November because I prefer college basketball over baseball,
so baseball exits, college basketball moves in. Give me November.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
No, definitely October baseball.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Give me November rain over all of them all, any.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Guys for that's game time.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
Game This is game time on The du Gotlieb Show.
Might get rain in October, but November rain. As a
Guns N' Roses song, It's a classic.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
I knew it. I knew it, Jason, you knew it, Like, yeah,
Sam got it. Get completely and don't worry. We're gonna
talk bad Bunny coming up with just a little bit.
She is Monty Bilanya's I'm dan Byer the Feast. Collier
thinks Kathy Engelbert's a bad bunny. We'll talk about it
next on Fox.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
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