November 7, 2025 • 35 mins
Doug talks about the ugly game between the Broncos and Raiders Thursday night and how Denver is winning in spite of their quarterback. Doug welcomes former Bucs GM Mark Dominik onto the show to talk about the Broncos, Kyler Murray and other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug and the crew through a game of "I GOT DIBBS!".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Uh So, last night, boys, and you may ask yourself, Doug,
you weren't here yesterday. No, I was not. We were
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en route to Buffalo from Green Bay. So we land.
We have practice. We get some wing nuts which were
recommended by Dan Byer and they were fantastic, fantastic. We
have more of a wing discussion for you on the pod.
You can get the pod at the top of the
third hour download wherever your download podcasts. So we had
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some wing nuts and watch some film, go up to
the room, opened up the laptops start the reading watching.
There's a there's a company called Synergy where you can
watch all the different clips of the teams that you're playing,
are gonna play against, and flip on the Thursday Night football.
And oh now here's the good part about Thursday Night
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Football with Amazon, Like I know the button, there's no
real search for it. It's really my thumb. Two or
three times. I can watch it on my phone. It's
an app I use all the time. I can I
know how to transfer to the hotel TV. Like all
of that stuff has become really really seamless. And we've
had some decent Thursday night games. Last night was out
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one of them that was bad football, and the Broncos
did end up winning. And as I texted the guys
on our group chat, there are ten seven games which
are really exciting. You're like, ah, no, way, no, no,
there are ten seven games which are just slobberknockers, knocked
down drag bats. And then there are last night which
you could with some of the errors, the muff pun
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day fumbles and interceptions, you could have played Benny Heal music.
But what came from the Denver Broncos win. I think Jason,
you said it best. So the NFL today can celebrate
that their team with the best record just played in
a standalone game and probably played the ugliest football game
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of the year, or at least the ugliest one that
we actually watched. Right, Because there are ugly Sunday ones,
but especially the one o'clock ones East Coast time, they
kind of get compacted and I'm watching on red zone.
It might be an ugly game, it doesn't look as
ugly that way. That one was ugly. The victorious quarterback
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was playing at home in I think we can all agree.
Of all the throwback uniforms, the Broncos rendition of their
orange crush uniforms is one in which you're always gonna
look at, look at and go like, wait, why don't
they wear those? Is the regular uniforms. They're amazing. Their
play was not amazing. Their quarterbacks play was not amazing.
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Bo Nickson, his second year as a starter, led his
team to the playoffs last year. They had the best record
in football this year. Here's Bonnicks on being booed at home.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Did you think about some of their reaction to boos
and that kind of thing. Well, I've been booed before,
and I'll be booed again, so I'm not gonna be
the last time. It's obviously unfortunate. You don't want your
own fans booming you, but you know it's part of it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Okay, he did say they need to score more. Captain
the obvious statement. Here's here's Boonix.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Gotta do better.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
At some point, ten points ain't gonna be enough. We
gotta score more. We just have a tougher, resilient football team.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
We five ways to win.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Usually right now it's the defense leading the charge. They
just continue against the ball back. A bunch of sacks tonight,
you know, a few that were in field goal range
that knocked them out. And he'll win a lot of
games with the defense playing like that. And then tonight
we had a little spark with some special teams plays
and then you know we just at some point we
got to start moving football and scoring points.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah you do. Here's his head coach, Sean Payton.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Sean again, you know, as you've said, your record says
who you are exactly right? Are you comfortable with the
script of just kind of how these games on those coaches?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
But there's no butts, so you're asking my comfortable as
a coach. We're never satisfied. If my answer were to you,
I'm comfortable, that'd be silly.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Right.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
So obviously we got to clean up the penalties. We
got to clean up some of the execution, and that
is an ongoing thing that probably never ends. There's you know,
you search for that shangri la right now. You know,
we're a team sitting at eight wins. I think we're
the only team sitting there, and yet we're constantly looking internally.
It was a tough night offensively, obviously, and I give
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them credit. They did some things differently that we hadn't seen.
And you know, you start looking at your call sheet
with your subplan, and we'll look at that tape and
we'll warn from it.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
We always will. Still got leap show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Okay, So I heard earlier today Hall of
Famer Colin Calhern say that, hey, Broncos need to look
at maybe drafting the quarterback because Bo Nix is regressing.
I don't think that's what came out of the game
for me. That you have a year and a half
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invested into bow Knicks, and remember Bo Nicks is the
same quarterback who was crummy at Auburn even though he
started as a freshman a place his dad started and
was a star and a legend. Went to Oregon and
in his fifth year, when he got that fifth year,
he was he was great. He was incredible. Okay, they
had probably the best offensive line in college football, but
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he was great. So he's the same guy he was
at Auburn and the same guy he was at Oregon,
and the and and a slightly evolved version because you're
slightly older with more years. That's that's the reality to it.
My point is, I don't believe Dak that bo Nicks
is a great quarterback, but I'm not sure it totally
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matters because you can clean stuff up. They're still able
to win with him, Well they win a Super with him?
Probably not. But look, the story of this is not
about the Broncos needing to find another quarterback in the
upcoming draft. The story of this is pocket this Broncos fans,
Broncos media, Broncos front office. And remember that when we
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started to have discussions about extending bo Nicks, you don't
take the bait. What's led to Mike McDaniel potentially being
fired as gm being fired Chris career. What's led to
Cleveland being a complete joke, right, and even Houston's downfall
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before that. What's led to the Giants likely having letting
Saquon Barkley go was the fact that you did contract
extensions to a guy who could not live up to
the new contract. Right like Mike McDaniel. The culture of
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the Dolphins is bad. They took on some guys that
are just not good team guys, and when things go bad,
that gets exposed. Chris Kers with the team for twenty
five years. He lost his job earlier this week for
one reason, and one reason only to a tongue of
by love. They took the wrong quarterback, and okay, so
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they took him. He played, he was good, he was fine,
he was heard, he wasn't hurt. What you can't do
is you can't double down and now pay real money
that you can't get out of because you're true. You
can survive picking a guy who's not as good as
you would have hoped in the first round but still
very useful. You can't survive when he's within the top
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five or even top ten of quarterbacks in the NFL,
because once you pay that guy that money. He has
to be something that he is not, and that is
what the Broncos have to be. Cast us off. As
long as boat Nicks is on a rookie contract, I'm good.
Even the fiftieer option still good. New contract, I'm not good.
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I'm out. Go ahead, Dan Buyer.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah, Doug, I just I think that it's only it's
only proper to do this game last night, Justice.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
You mentioned it, Doug.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Highlights from last night's ten to seventh thriller in the
Mile High City shotgunfer.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Gino Smith, who takes the snap, throws a ball.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
There's deflected and hitners accept Dondra Tillman on the rebound.
The big Man is still loose inside of forty five,
belted to the ground inside the thirty five, but the
deflection up in the air.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Dendre Tillman is second.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
Interception of the season.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Don't worry, Doug, there's more.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
Expect to throw. Got time late pressure.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
How does I have a defender the.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Forty five yard line.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
It's Kelly again, the Vegas native, trying to bring this
one back.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
To the Silver State.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
It deflected off a receiver into the hands of Kelly
and the Raiders will take over on the Denver forty five.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Don't worry, Doug. You were right. There's more.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Broncos look like they may pressure this a bit. Snap
is good. They do bring some pressure.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And they get to it.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
They blocking the balls bouncing around picked up Denver's football
inside the Raider fifteen yard line. Tyler Bedet recovered the block.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Ah big thanks to KOA and ninety four point one FM,
Broncos Radio and Raider Nation Radio. On those highlights, Doug.
In a game where both teams committed more accepted penalties
than actual first downs, your analysis, I'm not worrying about
bo Nix right now is spot on.
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Speaker 6 (10:45):
Broncos look like they may pressure this a bit. Snap
is good. They do bring some pressure and they get
to it. They plucked the balls, bouncer around picked up
Denver's football.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Inside the raider fifteen yard line. Tyler Bedet recovered the bloc.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I can't hear name Tyler Bidet without thinking about a Bidet.
I have a great Bidet story anyway. Go ahead, Jase, do.
Speaker 11 (11:12):
Just for the listeners to remind them the Broncos are
still Dan Byer's pick to win the Super Bowl. Yes,
and I could not be more on board now. And
let me give you some my reasoning. If the Denver
Broncos win the Super Bowl, the NFL will feel compelled
to say that the best team in our league had
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more penalties than first downs and was that jumbled slop
of unpracticed people playing unpracticed people. And it will put
an exclamation point on the Zoropa era of the NFL.
So I'm now rooting for the Broncos and the Slop
to win it all.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
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Speaker 6 (11:57):
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Speaker 9 (11:58):
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Speaker 1 (12:09):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
So full disclosure, my late father was most of you know,
he's a basketball coach. It's a longtime college basketball coach
for that high school coach. Then he's an AU coach,
and he would do this thing where couldn't help himself,
you know, and all the player tickets are in the
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same spot, and he would, you know, do his own
coaching sitting there going, ah, he can't play, Get him
out of there. He stinks. And it's like, hey, you
know his dad or his mom and his girlfriend sitting
right next to you. So my coach coach moved him
to a different area, like away from the rest of
the parents because he couldn't help himself. Now you have
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social media, so it doesn't really matter if they're sitting
with anybody, not saying anybody, because all takes their fingers
and a pressed send. But after the Bears won the game,
James A. Dunzay, who's Roma Dunza's dad, posts the messa
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on social media that asked whether the Bears would quote
trade Rome to a team that will actually throw him
the ball. Another post that declared the wide receiver should
be seeing at least ten targets per game. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
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here's the thing. There's a bunch of parts to it.
Because James Dunsay, who is on social media, lives in
Las Vegas. He has almost four thousand followers on Instagram.
James Dunsay does he watch film with the team? Does
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he know the coverages? And oh yeah, by the way,
even if he knows the coverages and watches film and
knows everything, you don't do that. He can't do that.
And while Roma Dunsay doesn't, he's like, i't even talk
with my dad, Like okay, doesn't matter. The most important
part is like it makes it harder for your son
at work, not easier to people who sit there and
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go like, wow, this is just a sign. Well, there's
a couple of things to it. First part is at
least you know what's being said to Roma Dunza when
he does call his folks. Now my old high school
coach is now my assistant coach. That's weird. Andy Ground
he used to always say, don't worry about parents, guy,
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they're blinded by love. Everything they say is blinded by love,
and James and Dunzay's comments are blinded by love, but
they're also just blind to the nobody does that in
the NFL. You're a grown up and you're acting like
a child. You got to my guy's ball. You gonna
get rid of. Like dude, here's his son, roma Dunze,
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responding to it.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
I don't make a big deal out of it. You know,
obviously he has his opinions.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
I have mind, and he feels like he.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
Needs to voice those things on social media.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
But you know that's that's that's his prerogative.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
But you know, he speaks for himself. I speak for myself, man.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I'm happy.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I'm just trying to do my job within this you
know organization that's you.
Speaker 11 (15:31):
Know, as a leader, as a.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
As a person, as an individual, and then as a
football player.
Speaker 8 (15:35):
So trying to excel at you.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Know, Hall of Fame level of both those aspects.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
So that's all I'm focused on.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Right, I mean, a perfectly professional answer, and I take
him at his word. But like you're you're a parent,
you're a giver of DNA, and I'm sure you've done
a ton to get your kid into this position. Right,
get him into this position. But dude, taking it on
the social media is like a high school kid complaining
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about catches has no effect other than making your son
super uncomfortable because no matter how much they say, hey,
you speak for he speaks for himself. I speak for myself.
We don't talk that much. Everybody thinks otherwise, and now
it's just awkward needlessly, So I think, can we are
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we also all in agreement and a buyer's probably in
agreement with this too. Antonio Brown having legal troubles post
NFL career, in the predictability matrix, it was pretty it
was pretty easy to predict, right, Like did anybody think, like, hey,
Antonio Brown, he's gonna turn his life around, He's gonna
speak at schools, he's gonna be a church going citizen
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like that tracks and that again nobody thought attempted murderer.
But the fact that he's has legal troubles, everybody's not
in their heads to welcome in our good friend who
joins us every week. He's Mark Dominic He's been the
general manager of the Tampay Buccaneers twenty five plus years
in the National Football League scouting, moving up to the
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front office. All the things, Mark, I want to ask
you about bow Knicks. My take, there were some that
are like, oh, bo Nicks is regressing. May want to
look at a quarterback. If you're Denver, you got everything
but an offense. My thing is like, look, they're winning
and one of the reasons they're winning is their defense.
One of the reasons they're defense so good is they
don't play the quarterback bubkiss. I just the warning is,
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don't overpay in the second contract. Right, That's the TUA thing.
That's all these the Danny Dimes thing. Don't overpay in
the second contract. Don't worry about moving on now, worry
about just trying to do the best you can and
using all that money. Where are you on bow Knicks
currently and in his near term future with the Broncos.
Speaker 12 (17:52):
Well, I'm with you. I mean, I think I'm very
comfortable with both Knicks, and I think that even though
sometimes team Man might be playing to the level left
seen Bonnicks play before. To your point, he's in the
second year of a rookie deal. There's no rush here
for anybody, the Denver Broncos, their fans, or the organization.
They're gonna be patient with him, let him continue to play,
let him continue to grow, and as long as they
continue to win, I don't care what it looks like.
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I'm like, I'm gonna worry about Bonick. To your point, Doug,
I'll worry about bone Nicks after year four. I don't
have to do a deal after year three. There's some
there's no written code here that says every player that
gets to year three has to get a deal, And
I think that's the way you can look at it.
But I think that Bonnicks is going to be fine,
and I think that the Denver Broncos are finding a
way to get to maybe a tougher journey right now offensively.
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But it doesn't scare me to have him as my quarterback.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's start
with the Sauce Gardner trade before we get to the
Quinn Williams trade. Let's start from the Jets perspective. Do
you like to move from the Jets perspective?
Speaker 12 (18:52):
I don't love it right, And here's the yes. Two
first round picks are two first round picks, and that
sounds well and good, but the reality is you got
to go make the right picks. Right, you can pick
a cornerback in the first round and he's not very
good and he turns out to be a bust, you
can you can take I mean just because you get collateral.
I mean you've got to still number one, replace the
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player that you drafted in some capacity, and then you
have an extra pick to hopefully not get wrong. That's
not as easy as it sounds. So I think that
when I looked at this trade, I said, I think
the Jets are doing themselves a disservice by just jettising
a sorry about that, but getting rid of all their
players in terms of you know, trying to Okay, we're
we're gonna build this team out different. By the way,
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those guys are still younger players in the National Football League,
and so now you're just going to try to make
this thing even more difficult to rebuild. I just think
it's a really tough move for Aaron Glenn. But to me,
if Aaron Glenn's willing to trade a corner maybe there's
something more. I don't understand what was going on behind
the scenes. That to me is kind of a bigger
surprise based off his position. I love the deal for
the Colts. I think it makes a ton of sense
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for them. They are a an opportunity right now to
win the South and let alone maybe see what they
can do in the postseason. So I think the Colts
it's worth giving up two ones. I think it's a
good move by them.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Okay, now do quinnin Williams. Let's start with the Jets.
Does that make sense to the Jets?
Speaker 12 (20:12):
Again, I don't think so. You know, they got a
guy named Jawan Braggs who's played pretty well inside for
them and on the defensive line. But quinnin Williams, you know,
he was a baby coming into the league. He's still
a young man for a second round pick. Again, I'd
rather just have the player and I can make that trade,
probably pre draft. But let's let's kind of see what
this team kind of unfolds. Have a season of folds.
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The Jets. To me, they must have gone to Woody Johnson.
They had a conversation said, hey, look, we're not going
to win this year.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Seasons.
Speaker 12 (20:41):
Tank probably end up put the number one pick. Let's
rebuild the team from the start. And what I think
Aaron Glenn probably did is we did the same thing
dead in Detroit. Let us do it here, And I
have a feeling Woody Johnson bought and I think I
don't love the trade. I think for Dallas it's a
much better deal for the Dallas Cowboys. Even though Dallas
is admitting their first round pick, Mabby Smith, who they
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thought was gonna be a player, They've already replaced it
with Kenny Clark and Naquin and Williams, So clearly they
missed on their first round pick as well.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app. Mark Dominic is our guest. Okay, so they've
you know, the Jets have waived the white flag. We
know they're in a race. I just think I agree
with you. But to me, it's all positioning themselves to
get the quarterback that they want. Is that Is that fair?
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Like they're just sitting there going You had the owners
say they couldn't complete a pass, and yeah, then Fields
had one good game. But to me, this is all
about loading up with picks to completely Uh, you're cause
you're not saying you're not gonna win this year. You're
saying you're not gonna win for a couple of years, right,
you can't get rid of your to your most or
maybe your two most talented young players and hope to
compete anytime soon. So you're going for a complete remodel.
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And the first focus is you got to have enough
first round picks to get the quarterback that you want
and then work out the rest, probably trading those picks
to get other multiple picks. Fair guess on what they're
looking at doing.
Speaker 12 (22:05):
Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think the one
thing I would be thinking about is how the Jets
GM and I was in this situation. Is each draft,
I would probably trying to take one of my if
I have an extra first, try to you know, move
that back and get an extra first the next year
and pick up an extra third, like so I can
continue to you know, have high picks. I think the
Jets are going to end up with the number one
pick in the draft, and so I don't think you
had to do this to make sure you get the
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quarterback you want. I think you just you're going to
end up there either way. I think they're making sure
they end up there by the moves they've made. You know,
just yes, you've got to find the quarterback. This league
is about finding the quarterback. That's all that matters. Really. Yes,
you want to build around them and all that good stuff,
but you've got to find that quarterback and then you
have a chance to win. I've said this story maybe before,
but TJ. Watt or JJ Watt was the best defensive
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player in the league forever, right, for five six years,
and you could only get at that time the Houston
Texans and nine and seven. They turn around to get
Deshaun Watson when he was good, and suddenly the Houston
Texans are the twelve win team. I mean, it just
shows you the impact that that quarterback position has. So
I get that the Jets want to make sure they
get that guy, but I feel like they've pulled away
so much from that team that even if they get
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that guy, they still got to protect that guy and
then they you know, running back's already shown that he's
been on the trading block, so he's not probably coming back.
Garrett Williams is probably looking around, going, I don't know
what's going to happen to me, So you know, it's
it just creates a lot of uncertainty. I don't love it,
but I understand the Jets. I fundamentally believe they've sold
the owner. We're going to rebuild this whole thing and
start over instead of trying to piece mail it. And
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I think that's what they did. And what hey Johnson.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Bought Yep, you and I are a completely lockstep here.
What do you do with Kyler Murray for the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 12 (23:39):
Yeah, I get I think he's done his last snap.
And I say that because just watching Kyler in the system,
watching the games, watching his interaction with other players and
other teammates. You know, if you really watch the Arizona Cardinals,
there's a lot of throws. He may not have the
bad completion percentage, but there's a lot of throws that
he didn't make that are you know, or he didn't see,
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or just higher completion plays where you're like, you got
to make that play if you're a quarterback at this level.
And I have a feeling Manti Austin Ford, the general
manager there, who didn't do the deal, who didn't draft
him in the first place, has looked at and said,
this is not the leader we're looking for, and so therefore,
let's move on. Let's put him an ir Let's make
sure he doesn't have something more catastrophic for an injury,
and let's just move on. So I don't think Kyler
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Murray is an Arizona cardinal in twenty twenty six at all.
And I don't know if he's going to see another stand.
I don't think you'll see another stamp in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Right, because then if he gets hurt, then you're probably
you got you're underwater for a future years contract that
you don't want to be underwater for. Okay, now let
me put you back in the seat as a general
manager for a team that doesn't have a quarterback. Are
you interested in Kyler Murray?
Speaker 12 (24:45):
No, I'm not. You know, I'm gonna bet my I mean,
there's just been too many little red flags across the bow,
you know. And I appreciate that Arizona said, look, let's
restart this whole thing, and let's kind of figure this
out and let's let's see if we can get this
kin or everything to work. But the reality is, when
Steve Kin, the former general manager, wrote the art, wrote
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the contract to make sure that he would actually watch
film and not participate in video games or whatever, that
whole clause was that they finally pulled back out. It
was such a bad look. It spoke so deeply to
his level of love of the game to me that
it would make me say, as much as I'd like
i'm quarterback list, I might be better off trying to
see if I can find that guy in the mid round,
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or go find the older guy that you know has
still got something left in him, instead of going with
the guy that I'm afraid the team dynamics won't be
great even if he plays well for four or five games.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I hear you, what do you think of the Bengals
and a couple of the defensive players openly complaining about
the offense and saying to just get a stop after
they lost to the Bears last weekend.
Speaker 12 (25:50):
Yeah, I mean it's a hard game, right, It's to
kind of see what happened. You know, they've gone to
Bengals has certainly gone through some tough things. You watch
Cam Taylor Britain, they've been and then they turn around
and let him put me to the cornerback for the Bengals.
Then they put him back on the field and he
kind of shuts down Romadunesa the whole game. But they
still score forty points you know, it's it's they're not
getting home. They're not getting to the pass rush. You know,
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as much as Trey Hendrickson is trying to do as
much as he can, some of the guys they have
on the defensive front, whether it's Chris Jenkins, he's a
run stuffer, but he's still seemed some time to try
to get to the quarterback and that's just not happening
for them. So they're lacking pass rush, not only just
you know, depth, but actually interior pass rush and push,
and that's killing this team defensively in my opinion, and
that's keeping them on the field. You know, I don't
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think he decides to point fingers right now. It's been frustrating.
They have signs of life, but I think now it's
the time where not a player's only meeting, but Zach
Taylor will take care of it and get and get
him together. Say let's stop pointing fingers at each other,
point him at yourself, and make sure we're doing what
we're supposed to be doing individually.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, it sounds good, but once once the Cats out
of the back, once the defense is calling them out, it's
it's really any other comments that they make won't you know,
won't resonate in any sort of way. Mark great stuff.
As always, thanks so much for joining us. Have a
great weekend. We appreciate you being our guest on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 12 (27:07):
Thanks for having me on Doug Enjoy weekend.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
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Speaker 1 (27:17):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. If you're listeners to
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That was uncomfortable, not much woo woo woo mean anyway, Uh,
(27:38):
Bobby Brown and Tony Tony Tony in Santa Anna. Yeah, Yeah,
that was a night night was had some ask me questions.
Why am I so real? All right, let's uh, let's
get to a game with Dan Byer.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
Is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It is hard Jason Stewart to listen to Bobby Brown.
I love Biby Brown's music and I go damn by Brown, Ruined, Ruined,
Whitney Houston.
Speaker 11 (28:14):
Right, that's true. The pretty good documentary on Showtime. By
the way, Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Whitney Houston, I want to dance with somebody, was like,
if you didn't have a crush on Whitney Houston after
watching that video, then again I begin to question your preference.
There you go, there's something wrong. Your preference is something wrong.
Nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying it's a really
(28:42):
good like litmus test for what your preference is. If
you're like, yeah, I don't see it.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
With Whitney, with with I guess, speaking of preference, she
had a girlfriend before she hit it big. It was well,
you know, that was well, I don't know if it
was covered in the dock, but yeah, so all right,
she wanted to.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Dance with somebody, with somebody who loved her. She did
not signify whether or not that was a man or woman.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Correct, all right? The game today, Doug is I gots now.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
I say this where I think we've got a pretty
good slate coming up in Week ten, even with a
team like the Chiefs and the Cowboys on by worst
NFL game in Week ten, the worst game on the
slate on your marks gets set. Go not everyone.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
At once, Doug, Go ahead, Cleveland and the Jets. Jets,
my god, we're so so let me get this straight. Okay,
the Jets have a quarterback that their owner said can't
complete a pass. They got rid of their two best
defensive players, and they're taking on the Browns that are
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on their like fourth quarterback, and some people want their
fifth quarterback to instead. Plus they're they're like the most
laughably run franchises in the NFL, respectively. Cleveland the Jets.
I don't know, if it's close, somebody else make.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
A push and the Jets Panthers, Saints and why somebody
think it's a letdown for Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Big win in Green Bay last week?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Boys the Saints.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
What a tough travel week. You go from New Orleans
to l A. You lose to the Rams with Tyler
Shook as your quarterback, and you got to go back
home and now you're you're on the road again on
the other coasts. A bit of a Doug Gottlieb travel scenario. K. Yeah,
give me Saints Panthers on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
When they lose to the Panthers. Are they all shook up?
Jason all shook shook up, all shook up?
Speaker 8 (30:55):
I got DIBs on Jags Texans, all right? Not that
like before the Sea and I'd be like, this is
actually I would have thought that the Texans would be
the one with the winning record and Jags without. It's
the opposite. But now with are we going to not
have CJ. Strout again? Most likely is Davis Mills is
going to get to start Dan I would imagine yes
he is, all right, so yeah, and then the Jags
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are We don't really know if they're actually a good
team or not. So that's my pick.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
All right, Jay, you want in on this, I'm good.
Speaker 11 (31:22):
I think those are the three.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
All right.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Everything else is pretty good. There's a lot of good matchups, Yeah,
there are, there actually are. This week Doug mentioned he's
in Buffalo. Had some wings last night. Favorite piece, favorite
chicken piece or form.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
They got that, all right? Right?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I like thighs. I'm a guy. I'm a thigh guy.
And I mean again, if health is not a factor,
fried chicken thighs are pretty much the greatest thing ever ever.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I dibbs on chicken sandwich. Chicken sandwich, but grilled or fried?
Speaker 3 (32:05):
What the chicken?
Speaker 8 (32:06):
Okay? Fried chicken on a sandwich? Yes, all right, yes
you can chicken. Put it on bread and it's chicken sandwich.
You can prepare the chicken.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
You're right, you know you could have a chicken salad sandwich, right,
you could have that as well, but I can't fried
chicken sandwich.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
There go get her dead.
Speaker 11 (32:25):
I got DIBs on the chicken palm. We've got Trader
Joe's chicken palm ready to go like this evening like.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
A yes, bread and cutlet's very good. Yeah, I'll take
a chicken cord down blue.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
There's been interesting, honestly.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
No, it's it's it's not it's it's isn't it chicken
wrapped in ham with Swiss cheese in the middle.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Isn't it?
Speaker 8 (32:50):
Isn't that chicken cheese in there?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
No?
Speaker 8 (32:53):
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I was going more of to Doug's point, thigh leg, wing, breast, sandwich,
nugget tender, those sort of things. But I think all
in a certain way. With the cutlet, I believe chi
can cord on blue?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Is that is? Would you use a breast for that? Sam?
Speaker 8 (33:08):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
All right?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
H No, you do a chicken cutlet, which is a breast.
You pound it, you pound it, you pound it into
a very very thin almost sheet like, right, do.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
You guys, how well nuggets are tender?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
By the way, Oh hard call I take a tender.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
I feel like a nugget's been like an ulsified.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Well no, it's also even if the nuggets are made
of a cut up piece of chicken. I feel like
the ratio. Sometimes you get too much sauce and not
enough nugget, whereas you can really pick your ratio a
little bit better when you have the big tender.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Uh one. The one last thing, chicken back, the back
of the chicken when you bake it is outstanding because
you get all that skin and there's two little like
back muscles there that are pretty goody, still out of meat,
a lot of skin, a little fatty.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
But I love chicken skin, all right.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Finally, guys, on the heels of the NFL playing in
Germany this week, and again Best international sporting Events, Best international.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Sporting DIBs on the World Cup.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Cup.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
I beat you to.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
It, Yeah, World Cup, that's good. Sauce international. What's the
what's the sixth Nations thing? The rugby deal?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Well, then it probably shouldn't be the best if you
don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I mean, I don't care, but I mean they really care.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I'm just saying I'm gonna take the Open.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Champions say it's the best.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Someone says so.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Some people say it's the greatest sporty bet.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Ever, I'd say, all right, Jason, I'm a big fan
of the Open.
Speaker 11 (34:52):
I got DIBs on the Open.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I just said the which opened.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
He just said the Open.
Speaker 11 (34:57):
Oh, I thought you're talking about the You're talking about
the Dubai.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I opened that.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Tiger Woods.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Oh, listen to Bay Open Tiger Woods.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
That's No one took the World Baseball Class.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
No one took anything show.
Speaker 8 (35:14):
I took the World Cup.
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Speaker 8 (35:32):
All I know is the biathlon. You cross country ski
and fire a gun.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
That is unique you do.
Speaker 11 (35:39):
Plus, the Winter Olympics were on Lake Placid, down the
road from Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Oh, there we go. They're big, they're big. Just that
with me uh pat's. Pat Fitzgerald is vindicated. Where does
the fit. We'll discuss next the doug Otlab Show.
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You want to talk about by coastal We're over here
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We are all here for you. That's what we're here for.
Uh So, last night, boys, and you may ask yourself, Doug,
you weren't here yesterday. No, I was not. We were
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en route to Buffalo from Green Bay. So we land.
We have practice. We get some wing nuts which were
recommended by Dan Byer and they were fantastic, fantastic. We
have more of a wing discussion for you on the pod.
You can get the pod at the top of the
third hour download wherever your download podcasts. So we had
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some wing nuts and watch some film, go up to
the room, opened up the laptops start the reading watching.
There's a there's a company called Synergy where you can
watch all the different clips of the teams that you're playing,
are gonna play against, and flip on the Thursday Night football.
And oh now here's the good part about Thursday Night
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Football with Amazon, Like I know the button, there's no
real search for it. It's really my thumb. Two or
three times. I can watch it on my phone. It's
an app I use all the time. I can I
know how to transfer to the hotel TV. Like all
of that stuff has become really really seamless. And we've
had some decent Thursday night games. Last night was out
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one of them that was bad football, and the Broncos
did end up winning. And as I texted the guys
on our group chat, there are ten seven games which
are really exciting. You're like, ah, no, way, no, no,
there are ten seven games which are just slobberknockers, knocked
down drag bats. And then there are last night which
you could with some of the errors, the muff pun
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day fumbles and interceptions, you could have played Benny Heal music.
But what came from the Denver Broncos win. I think Jason,
you said it best. So the NFL today can celebrate
that their team with the best record just played in
a standalone game and probably played the ugliest football game
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of the year, or at least the ugliest one that
we actually watched. Right, Because there are ugly Sunday ones,
but especially the one o'clock ones East Coast time, they
kind of get compacted and I'm watching on red zone.
It might be an ugly game, it doesn't look as
ugly that way. That one was ugly. The victorious quarterback
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was playing at home in I think we can all agree.
Of all the throwback uniforms, the Broncos rendition of their
orange crush uniforms is one in which you're always gonna
look at, look at and go like, wait, why don't
they wear those? Is the regular uniforms. They're amazing. Their
play was not amazing. Their quarterbacks play was not amazing.
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Bo Nickson, his second year as a starter, led his
team to the playoffs last year. They had the best record
in football this year. Here's Bonnicks on being booed at home.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Did you think about some of their reaction to boos
and that kind of thing. Well, I've been booed before,
and I'll be booed again, so I'm not gonna be
the last time. It's obviously unfortunate. You don't want your
own fans booming you, but you know it's part of it.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Okay, he did say they need to score more. Captain
the obvious statement. Here's here's Boonix.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Gotta do better.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
At some point, ten points ain't gonna be enough. We
gotta score more. We just have a tougher, resilient football team.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
We five ways to win.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Usually right now it's the defense leading the charge. They
just continue against the ball back. A bunch of sacks tonight,
you know, a few that were in field goal range
that knocked them out. And he'll win a lot of
games with the defense playing like that. And then tonight
we had a little spark with some special teams plays
and then you know we just at some point we
got to start moving football and scoring points.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah you do. Here's his head coach, Sean Payton.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Sean again, you know, as you've said, your record says
who you are exactly right? Are you comfortable with the
script of just kind of how these games on those coaches?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
But there's no butts, so you're asking my comfortable as
a coach. We're never satisfied. If my answer were to you,
I'm comfortable, that'd be silly.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Right.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
So obviously we got to clean up the penalties. We
got to clean up some of the execution, and that
is an ongoing thing that probably never ends. There's you know,
you search for that shangri la right now. You know,
we're a team sitting at eight wins. I think we're
the only team sitting there, and yet we're constantly looking internally.
It was a tough night offensively, obviously, and I give
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them credit. They did some things differently that we hadn't seen.
And you know, you start looking at your call sheet
with your subplan, and we'll look at that tape and
we'll warn from it.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
We always will. Still got leap show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Okay, So I heard earlier today Hall of
Famer Colin Calhern say that, hey, Broncos need to look
at maybe drafting the quarterback because Bo Nix is regressing.
I don't think that's what came out of the game
for me. That you have a year and a half
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invested into bow Knicks, and remember Bo Nicks is the
same quarterback who was crummy at Auburn even though he
started as a freshman a place his dad started and
was a star and a legend. Went to Oregon and
in his fifth year, when he got that fifth year,
he was he was great. He was incredible. Okay, they
had probably the best offensive line in college football, but
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he was great. So he's the same guy he was
at Auburn and the same guy he was at Oregon,
and the and and a slightly evolved version because you're
slightly older with more years. That's that's the reality to it.
My point is, I don't believe Dak that bo Nicks
is a great quarterback, but I'm not sure it totally
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matters because you can clean stuff up. They're still able
to win with him, Well they win a Super with him?
Probably not. But look, the story of this is not
about the Broncos needing to find another quarterback in the
upcoming draft. The story of this is pocket this Broncos fans,
Broncos media, Broncos front office. And remember that when we
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started to have discussions about extending bo Nicks, you don't
take the bait. What's led to Mike McDaniel potentially being
fired as gm being fired Chris career. What's led to
Cleveland being a complete joke, right, and even Houston's downfall
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before that. What's led to the Giants likely having letting
Saquon Barkley go was the fact that you did contract
extensions to a guy who could not live up to
the new contract. Right like Mike McDaniel. The culture of
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the Dolphins is bad. They took on some guys that
are just not good team guys, and when things go bad,
that gets exposed. Chris Kers with the team for twenty
five years. He lost his job earlier this week for
one reason, and one reason only to a tongue of
by love. They took the wrong quarterback, and okay, so
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they took him. He played, he was good, he was fine,
he was heard, he wasn't hurt. What you can't do
is you can't double down and now pay real money
that you can't get out of because you're true. You
can survive picking a guy who's not as good as
you would have hoped in the first round but still
very useful. You can't survive when he's within the top
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five or even top ten of quarterbacks in the NFL,
because once you pay that guy that money. He has
to be something that he is not, and that is
what the Broncos have to be. Cast us off. As
long as boat Nicks is on a rookie contract, I'm good.
Even the fiftieer option still good. New contract, I'm not good.
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I'm out. Go ahead, Dan Buyer.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah, Doug, I just I think that it's only it's
only proper to do this game last night, Justice.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
You mentioned it, Doug.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Highlights from last night's ten to seventh thriller in the
Mile High City shotgunfer.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Gino Smith, who takes the snap, throws a ball.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
There's deflected and hitners accept Dondra Tillman on the rebound.
The big Man is still loose inside of forty five,
belted to the ground inside the thirty five, but the
deflection up in the air.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
Dendre Tillman is second.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
Interception of the season.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Don't worry, Doug, there's more.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
Expect to throw. Got time late pressure.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
How does I have a defender the.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Forty five yard line.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
It's Kelly again, the Vegas native, trying to bring this
one back.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
To the Silver State.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
It deflected off a receiver into the hands of Kelly
and the Raiders will take over on the Denver forty five.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Don't worry, Doug. You were right. There's more.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Broncos look like they may pressure this a bit. Snap
is good. They do bring some pressure.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And they get to it.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
They blocking the balls bouncing around picked up Denver's football
inside the Raider fifteen yard line. Tyler Bedet recovered the block.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Ah big thanks to KOA and ninety four point one FM,
Broncos Radio and Raider Nation Radio. On those highlights, Doug.
In a game where both teams committed more accepted penalties
than actual first downs, your analysis, I'm not worrying about
bo Nix right now is spot on.
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Speaker 6 (10:45):
Broncos look like they may pressure this a bit. Snap
is good. They do bring some pressure and they get
to it. They plucked the balls, bouncer around picked up
Denver's football.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
Inside the raider fifteen yard line. Tyler Bedet recovered the bloc.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I can't hear name Tyler Bidet without thinking about a Bidet.
I have a great Bidet story anyway. Go ahead, Jase, do.
Speaker 11 (11:12):
Just for the listeners to remind them the Broncos are
still Dan Byer's pick to win the Super Bowl. Yes,
and I could not be more on board now. And
let me give you some my reasoning. If the Denver
Broncos win the Super Bowl, the NFL will feel compelled
to say that the best team in our league had
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more penalties than first downs and was that jumbled slop
of unpracticed people playing unpracticed people. And it will put
an exclamation point on the Zoropa era of the NFL.
So I'm now rooting for the Broncos and the Slop
to win it all.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Okay, it's Doug Otlieb Show here on Fox Sports.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Tradier.
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Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
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Speaker 1 (12:09):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
So full disclosure, my late father was most of you know,
he's a basketball coach. It's a longtime college basketball coach
for that high school coach. Then he's an AU coach,
and he would do this thing where couldn't help himself,
you know, and all the player tickets are in the
(12:32):
same spot, and he would, you know, do his own
coaching sitting there going, ah, he can't play, Get him
out of there. He stinks. And it's like, hey, you
know his dad or his mom and his girlfriend sitting
right next to you. So my coach coach moved him
to a different area, like away from the rest of
the parents because he couldn't help himself. Now you have
(12:57):
social media, so it doesn't really matter if they're sitting
with anybody, not saying anybody, because all takes their fingers
and a pressed send. But after the Bears won the game,
James A. Dunzay, who's Roma Dunza's dad, posts the messa
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on social media that asked whether the Bears would quote
trade Rome to a team that will actually throw him
the ball. Another post that declared the wide receiver should
be seeing at least ten targets per game. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
(13:40):
here's the thing. There's a bunch of parts to it.
Because James Dunsay, who is on social media, lives in
Las Vegas. He has almost four thousand followers on Instagram.
James Dunsay does he watch film with the team? Does
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he know the coverages? And oh yeah, by the way,
even if he knows the coverages and watches film and
knows everything, you don't do that. He can't do that.
And while Roma Dunsay doesn't, he's like, i't even talk
with my dad, Like okay, doesn't matter. The most important
part is like it makes it harder for your son
at work, not easier to people who sit there and
(14:29):
go like, wow, this is just a sign. Well, there's
a couple of things to it. First part is at
least you know what's being said to Roma Dunza when
he does call his folks. Now my old high school
coach is now my assistant coach. That's weird. Andy Ground
he used to always say, don't worry about parents, guy,
(14:50):
they're blinded by love. Everything they say is blinded by love,
and James and Dunzay's comments are blinded by love, but
they're also just blind to the nobody does that in
the NFL. You're a grown up and you're acting like
a child. You got to my guy's ball. You gonna
get rid of. Like dude, here's his son, roma Dunze,
(15:14):
responding to it.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
I don't make a big deal out of it. You know,
obviously he has his opinions.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
I have mind, and he feels like he.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
Needs to voice those things on social media.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
But you know that's that's that's his prerogative.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
But you know, he speaks for himself. I speak for myself, man.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I'm happy.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I'm just trying to do my job within this you
know organization that's you.
Speaker 11 (15:31):
Know, as a leader, as a.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
As a person, as an individual, and then as a
football player.
Speaker 8 (15:35):
So trying to excel at you.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Know, Hall of Fame level of both those aspects.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
So that's all I'm focused on.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Right, I mean, a perfectly professional answer, and I take
him at his word. But like you're you're a parent,
you're a giver of DNA, and I'm sure you've done
a ton to get your kid into this position. Right,
get him into this position. But dude, taking it on
the social media is like a high school kid complaining
(16:07):
about catches has no effect other than making your son
super uncomfortable because no matter how much they say, hey,
you speak for he speaks for himself. I speak for myself.
We don't talk that much. Everybody thinks otherwise, and now
it's just awkward needlessly, So I think, can we are
(16:27):
we also all in agreement and a buyer's probably in
agreement with this too. Antonio Brown having legal troubles post
NFL career, in the predictability matrix, it was pretty it
was pretty easy to predict, right, Like did anybody think, like, hey,
Antonio Brown, he's gonna turn his life around, He's gonna
speak at schools, he's gonna be a church going citizen
(16:48):
like that tracks and that again nobody thought attempted murderer.
But the fact that he's has legal troubles, everybody's not
in their heads to welcome in our good friend who
joins us every week. He's Mark Dominic He's been the
general manager of the Tampay Buccaneers twenty five plus years
in the National Football League scouting, moving up to the
(17:09):
front office. All the things, Mark, I want to ask
you about bow Knicks. My take, there were some that
are like, oh, bo Nicks is regressing. May want to
look at a quarterback. If you're Denver, you got everything
but an offense. My thing is like, look, they're winning
and one of the reasons they're winning is their defense.
One of the reasons they're defense so good is they
don't play the quarterback bubkiss. I just the warning is,
(17:33):
don't overpay in the second contract. Right, That's the TUA thing.
That's all these the Danny Dimes thing. Don't overpay in
the second contract. Don't worry about moving on now, worry
about just trying to do the best you can and
using all that money. Where are you on bow Knicks
currently and in his near term future with the Broncos.
Speaker 12 (17:52):
Well, I'm with you. I mean, I think I'm very
comfortable with both Knicks, and I think that even though
sometimes team Man might be playing to the level left
seen Bonnicks play before. To your point, he's in the
second year of a rookie deal. There's no rush here
for anybody, the Denver Broncos, their fans, or the organization.
They're gonna be patient with him, let him continue to play,
let him continue to grow, and as long as they
continue to win, I don't care what it looks like.
(18:14):
I'm like, I'm gonna worry about Bonick. To your point, Doug,
I'll worry about bone Nicks after year four. I don't
have to do a deal after year three. There's some
there's no written code here that says every player that
gets to year three has to get a deal, And
I think that's the way you can look at it.
But I think that Bonnicks is going to be fine,
and I think that the Denver Broncos are finding a
way to get to maybe a tougher journey right now offensively.
(18:35):
But it doesn't scare me to have him as my quarterback.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's start
with the Sauce Gardner trade before we get to the
Quinn Williams trade. Let's start from the Jets perspective. Do
you like to move from the Jets perspective?
Speaker 12 (18:52):
I don't love it right, And here's the yes. Two
first round picks are two first round picks, and that
sounds well and good, but the reality is you got
to go make the right picks. Right, you can pick
a cornerback in the first round and he's not very
good and he turns out to be a bust, you
can you can take I mean just because you get collateral.
I mean you've got to still number one, replace the
(19:13):
player that you drafted in some capacity, and then you
have an extra pick to hopefully not get wrong. That's
not as easy as it sounds. So I think that
when I looked at this trade, I said, I think
the Jets are doing themselves a disservice by just jettising
a sorry about that, but getting rid of all their
players in terms of you know, trying to Okay, we're
we're gonna build this team out different. By the way,
(19:34):
those guys are still younger players in the National Football League,
and so now you're just going to try to make
this thing even more difficult to rebuild. I just think
it's a really tough move for Aaron Glenn. But to me,
if Aaron Glenn's willing to trade a corner maybe there's
something more. I don't understand what was going on behind
the scenes. That to me is kind of a bigger
surprise based off his position. I love the deal for
the Colts. I think it makes a ton of sense
(19:55):
for them. They are a an opportunity right now to
win the South and let alone maybe see what they
can do in the postseason. So I think the Colts
it's worth giving up two ones. I think it's a
good move by them.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Okay, now do quinnin Williams. Let's start with the Jets.
Does that make sense to the Jets?
Speaker 12 (20:12):
Again, I don't think so. You know, they got a
guy named Jawan Braggs who's played pretty well inside for
them and on the defensive line. But quinnin Williams, you know,
he was a baby coming into the league. He's still
a young man for a second round pick. Again, I'd
rather just have the player and I can make that trade,
probably pre draft. But let's let's kind of see what
this team kind of unfolds. Have a season of folds.
(20:34):
The Jets. To me, they must have gone to Woody Johnson.
They had a conversation said, hey, look, we're not going
to win this year.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Seasons.
Speaker 12 (20:41):
Tank probably end up put the number one pick. Let's
rebuild the team from the start. And what I think
Aaron Glenn probably did is we did the same thing
dead in Detroit. Let us do it here, And I
have a feeling Woody Johnson bought and I think I
don't love the trade. I think for Dallas it's a
much better deal for the Dallas Cowboys. Even though Dallas
is admitting their first round pick, Mabby Smith, who they
(21:02):
thought was gonna be a player, They've already replaced it
with Kenny Clark and Naquin and Williams, So clearly they
missed on their first round pick as well.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app. Mark Dominic is our guest. Okay, so they've
you know, the Jets have waived the white flag. We
know they're in a race. I just think I agree
with you. But to me, it's all positioning themselves to
get the quarterback that they want. Is that Is that fair?
(21:30):
Like they're just sitting there going You had the owners
say they couldn't complete a pass, and yeah, then Fields
had one good game. But to me, this is all
about loading up with picks to completely Uh, you're cause
you're not saying you're not gonna win this year. You're
saying you're not gonna win for a couple of years, right,
you can't get rid of your to your most or
maybe your two most talented young players and hope to
compete anytime soon. So you're going for a complete remodel.
(21:53):
And the first focus is you got to have enough
first round picks to get the quarterback that you want
and then work out the rest, probably trading those picks
to get other multiple picks. Fair guess on what they're
looking at doing.
Speaker 12 (22:05):
Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think the one
thing I would be thinking about is how the Jets
GM and I was in this situation. Is each draft,
I would probably trying to take one of my if
I have an extra first, try to you know, move
that back and get an extra first the next year
and pick up an extra third, like so I can
continue to you know, have high picks. I think the
Jets are going to end up with the number one
pick in the draft, and so I don't think you
had to do this to make sure you get the
(22:26):
quarterback you want. I think you just you're going to
end up there either way. I think they're making sure
they end up there by the moves they've made. You know,
just yes, you've got to find the quarterback. This league
is about finding the quarterback. That's all that matters. Really. Yes,
you want to build around them and all that good stuff,
but you've got to find that quarterback and then you
have a chance to win. I've said this story maybe before,
but TJ. Watt or JJ Watt was the best defensive
(22:49):
player in the league forever, right, for five six years,
and you could only get at that time the Houston
Texans and nine and seven. They turn around to get
Deshaun Watson when he was good, and suddenly the Houston
Texans are the twelve win team. I mean, it just
shows you the impact that that quarterback position has. So
I get that the Jets want to make sure they
get that guy, but I feel like they've pulled away
so much from that team that even if they get
(23:09):
that guy, they still got to protect that guy and
then they you know, running back's already shown that he's
been on the trading block, so he's not probably coming back.
Garrett Williams is probably looking around, going, I don't know
what's going to happen to me, So you know, it's
it just creates a lot of uncertainty. I don't love it,
but I understand the Jets. I fundamentally believe they've sold
the owner. We're going to rebuild this whole thing and
start over instead of trying to piece mail it. And
(23:30):
I think that's what they did. And what hey Johnson.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Bought Yep, you and I are a completely lockstep here.
What do you do with Kyler Murray for the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 12 (23:39):
Yeah, I get I think he's done his last snap.
And I say that because just watching Kyler in the system,
watching the games, watching his interaction with other players and
other teammates. You know, if you really watch the Arizona Cardinals,
there's a lot of throws. He may not have the
bad completion percentage, but there's a lot of throws that
he didn't make that are you know, or he didn't see,
(24:01):
or just higher completion plays where you're like, you got
to make that play if you're a quarterback at this level.
And I have a feeling Manti Austin Ford, the general
manager there, who didn't do the deal, who didn't draft
him in the first place, has looked at and said,
this is not the leader we're looking for, and so therefore,
let's move on. Let's put him an ir Let's make
sure he doesn't have something more catastrophic for an injury,
and let's just move on. So I don't think Kyler
(24:23):
Murray is an Arizona cardinal in twenty twenty six at all.
And I don't know if he's going to see another stand.
I don't think you'll see another stamp in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Right, because then if he gets hurt, then you're probably
you got you're underwater for a future years contract that
you don't want to be underwater for. Okay, now let
me put you back in the seat as a general
manager for a team that doesn't have a quarterback. Are
you interested in Kyler Murray?
Speaker 12 (24:45):
No, I'm not. You know, I'm gonna bet my I mean,
there's just been too many little red flags across the bow,
you know. And I appreciate that Arizona said, look, let's
restart this whole thing, and let's kind of figure this
out and let's let's see if we can get this
kin or everything to work. But the reality is, when
Steve Kin, the former general manager, wrote the art, wrote
(25:06):
the contract to make sure that he would actually watch
film and not participate in video games or whatever, that
whole clause was that they finally pulled back out. It
was such a bad look. It spoke so deeply to
his level of love of the game to me that
it would make me say, as much as I'd like
i'm quarterback list, I might be better off trying to
see if I can find that guy in the mid round,
(25:27):
or go find the older guy that you know has
still got something left in him, instead of going with
the guy that I'm afraid the team dynamics won't be
great even if he plays well for four or five games.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I hear you, what do you think of the Bengals
and a couple of the defensive players openly complaining about
the offense and saying to just get a stop after
they lost to the Bears last weekend.
Speaker 12 (25:50):
Yeah, I mean it's a hard game, right, It's to
kind of see what happened. You know, they've gone to
Bengals has certainly gone through some tough things. You watch
Cam Taylor Britain, they've been and then they turn around
and let him put me to the cornerback for the Bengals.
Then they put him back on the field and he
kind of shuts down Romadunesa the whole game. But they
still score forty points you know, it's it's they're not
getting home. They're not getting to the pass rush. You know,
(26:12):
as much as Trey Hendrickson is trying to do as
much as he can, some of the guys they have
on the defensive front, whether it's Chris Jenkins, he's a
run stuffer, but he's still seemed some time to try
to get to the quarterback and that's just not happening
for them. So they're lacking pass rush, not only just
you know, depth, but actually interior pass rush and push,
and that's killing this team defensively in my opinion, and
that's keeping them on the field. You know, I don't
(26:33):
think he decides to point fingers right now. It's been frustrating.
They have signs of life, but I think now it's
the time where not a player's only meeting, but Zach
Taylor will take care of it and get and get
him together. Say let's stop pointing fingers at each other,
point him at yourself, and make sure we're doing what
we're supposed to be doing individually.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, it sounds good, but once once the Cats out
of the back, once the defense is calling them out, it's
it's really any other comments that they make won't you know,
won't resonate in any sort of way. Mark great stuff.
As always, thanks so much for joining us. Have a
great weekend. We appreciate you being our guest on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 12 (27:07):
Thanks for having me on Doug Enjoy weekend.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. If you're listeners to
the radio show, just know this is your boys second
concert ever. First concert was Jeffrey Osborne with my parents.
That was uncomfortable, not much woo woo woo mean anyway, Uh,
(27:38):
Bobby Brown and Tony Tony Tony in Santa Anna. Yeah, Yeah,
that was a night night was had some ask me questions.
Why am I so real? All right, let's uh, let's
get to a game with Dan Byer.
Speaker 9 (28:00):
Is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It is hard Jason Stewart to listen to Bobby Brown.
I love Biby Brown's music and I go damn by Brown, Ruined, Ruined,
Whitney Houston.
Speaker 11 (28:14):
Right, that's true. The pretty good documentary on Showtime. By
the way, Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Whitney Houston, I want to dance with somebody, was like,
if you didn't have a crush on Whitney Houston after
watching that video, then again I begin to question your preference.
There you go, there's something wrong. Your preference is something wrong.
Nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying it's a really
(28:42):
good like litmus test for what your preference is. If
you're like, yeah, I don't see it.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
With Whitney, with with I guess, speaking of preference, she
had a girlfriend before she hit it big. It was well,
you know, that was well, I don't know if it
was covered in the dock, but yeah, so all right,
she wanted to.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Dance with somebody, with somebody who loved her. She did
not signify whether or not that was a man or woman.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Correct, all right? The game today, Doug is I gots now.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
I say this where I think we've got a pretty
good slate coming up in Week ten, even with a
team like the Chiefs and the Cowboys on by worst
NFL game in Week ten, the worst game on the
slate on your marks gets set. Go not everyone.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
At once, Doug, Go ahead, Cleveland and the Jets. Jets,
my god, we're so so let me get this straight. Okay,
the Jets have a quarterback that their owner said can't
complete a pass. They got rid of their two best
defensive players, and they're taking on the Browns that are
(29:56):
on their like fourth quarterback, and some people want their
fifth quarterback to instead. Plus they're they're like the most
laughably run franchises in the NFL, respectively. Cleveland the Jets.
I don't know, if it's close, somebody else make.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
A push and the Jets Panthers, Saints and why somebody
think it's a letdown for Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Big win in Green Bay last week?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Boys the Saints.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
What a tough travel week. You go from New Orleans
to l A. You lose to the Rams with Tyler
Shook as your quarterback, and you got to go back
home and now you're you're on the road again on
the other coasts. A bit of a Doug Gottlieb travel scenario. K. Yeah,
give me Saints Panthers on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
When they lose to the Panthers. Are they all shook up?
Jason all shook shook up, all shook up?
Speaker 8 (30:55):
I got DIBs on Jags Texans, all right? Not that
like before the Sea and I'd be like, this is
actually I would have thought that the Texans would be
the one with the winning record and Jags without. It's
the opposite. But now with are we going to not
have CJ. Strout again? Most likely is Davis Mills is
going to get to start Dan I would imagine yes
he is, all right, so yeah, and then the Jags
(31:16):
are We don't really know if they're actually a good
team or not. So that's my pick.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
All right, Jay, you want in on this, I'm good.
Speaker 11 (31:22):
I think those are the three.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
All right.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Everything else is pretty good. There's a lot of good matchups, Yeah,
there are, there actually are. This week Doug mentioned he's
in Buffalo. Had some wings last night. Favorite piece, favorite
chicken piece or form.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
They got that, all right? Right?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I like thighs. I'm a guy. I'm a thigh guy.
And I mean again, if health is not a factor,
fried chicken thighs are pretty much the greatest thing ever ever.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I dibbs on chicken sandwich. Chicken sandwich, but grilled or fried?
Speaker 3 (32:05):
What the chicken?
Speaker 8 (32:06):
Okay? Fried chicken on a sandwich? Yes, all right, yes
you can chicken. Put it on bread and it's chicken sandwich.
You can prepare the chicken.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
You're right, you know you could have a chicken salad sandwich, right,
you could have that as well, but I can't fried
chicken sandwich.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
There go get her dead.
Speaker 11 (32:25):
I got DIBs on the chicken palm. We've got Trader
Joe's chicken palm ready to go like this evening like.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
A yes, bread and cutlet's very good. Yeah, I'll take
a chicken cord down blue.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
There's been interesting, honestly.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
No, it's it's it's not it's it's isn't it chicken
wrapped in ham with Swiss cheese in the middle.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Isn't it?
Speaker 8 (32:50):
Isn't that chicken cheese in there?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
No?
Speaker 8 (32:53):
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I was going more of to Doug's point, thigh leg, wing, breast, sandwich,
nugget tender, those sort of things. But I think all
in a certain way. With the cutlet, I believe chi
can cord on blue?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Is that is? Would you use a breast for that? Sam?
Speaker 8 (33:08):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
All right?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
H No, you do a chicken cutlet, which is a breast.
You pound it, you pound it, you pound it into
a very very thin almost sheet like, right, do.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
You guys, how well nuggets are tender?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
By the way, Oh hard call I take a tender.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
I feel like a nugget's been like an ulsified.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Well no, it's also even if the nuggets are made
of a cut up piece of chicken. I feel like
the ratio. Sometimes you get too much sauce and not
enough nugget, whereas you can really pick your ratio a
little bit better when you have the big tender.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Uh one. The one last thing, chicken back, the back
of the chicken when you bake it is outstanding because
you get all that skin and there's two little like
back muscles there that are pretty goody, still out of meat,
a lot of skin, a little fatty.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
But I love chicken skin, all right.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Finally, guys, on the heels of the NFL playing in
Germany this week, and again Best international sporting Events, Best international.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Sporting DIBs on the World Cup.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Cup.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
I beat you to.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
It, Yeah, World Cup, that's good. Sauce international. What's the
what's the sixth Nations thing? The rugby deal?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Well, then it probably shouldn't be the best if you
don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I mean, I don't care, but I mean they really care.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I'm just saying I'm gonna take the Open.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Champions say it's the best.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Someone says so.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Some people say it's the greatest sporty bet.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Ever, I'd say, all right, Jason, I'm a big fan
of the Open.
Speaker 11 (34:52):
I got DIBs on the Open.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I just said the which opened.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
He just said the Open.
Speaker 11 (34:57):
Oh, I thought you're talking about the You're talking about
the Dubai.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I opened that.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Tiger Woods.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Oh, listen to Bay Open Tiger Woods.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
That's No one took the World Baseball Class.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
No one took anything show.
Speaker 8 (35:14):
I took the World Cup.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
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But for the rest of us, come on, man.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
All I know is the biathlon. You cross country ski
and fire a gun.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
That is unique you do.
Speaker 11 (35:39):
Plus, the Winter Olympics were on Lake Placid, down the
road from Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Oh, there we go. They're big, they're big. Just that
with me uh pat's. Pat Fitzgerald is vindicated. Where does
the fit. We'll discuss next the doug Otlab Show.
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