August 26, 2025 • 38 mins
Doug talks about the Browns decision to trade Kenny Pickett to the Raiders, making things more clear on their depth chart at the quarterback position. Doug weighs in on the Trey Hendrickson pay bump. Doug welcomes baseball greats Ken Griffey Jr. and Ken Griffey St. onto the show to talk about their careers and to share an important message. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through a game of "Rank 'Em".
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Just are.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, Let's let's get after it. You know, I think
we have a little bit of clarity on the Brown situation.
I'm not sure the path to where they got makes
a ton of sense. You know. It's like we didn't
really get a chance to dig in on what Kenny
Pickett is. I'm not sure I understand why they signed
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Kenny Pickett. If we're gonna go with no one got
a real shot, it'd be Kenny Pickett. But regardless Kenny
Pickett is now a backup for the Raiders, and the
Browns have clarity. The clarity is that Joe Flacco is
a Super Bowl champion quarterback, granted long in the tooth,
is gonna be the starter, and then at some point
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in time, my guess is both Dylan Gabriel and Shador
Sanders will get an opportunity. I think the issue is
that while there is clarity, there's still a ton of
noise as to the order of and the fairness of
who gets what, when, where, why, how. But despite that,
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I actually kind of get what the Browns seem to
be trying to do. They know they're not great, they
might not even be good. Flacco gives them a chance
to be just solid at quarterback. He's taken them to
the playoffs before no reason. Remember, they still have Deshaun
Watson under contract for a couple more years now, likely
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won't play this year coming off to achilles injuries, but
still there they're trying to find They're actually sort of
going through the process of trying to find a quarterback.
In one of the two ways in which teams have
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been really successful when they haven't had an elite quarterback,
they draft those two ways are somebody else's former quarterback.
You know, obviously this is not the financial level to
a Baker Mayfield, a Sam Darnold, a Genos, but it's
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still the same idea a guy who is and no
one has seen it or done it more or at
a higher level than Flacco. Of those guys, Rams have
Garoppolo as their stopgap. Finding a guy who has experience
and some success in the league at a discount rate
is a value. And then the other type of real
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value quarterback is a young quarterback who's a third, fourth, fifth,
sixth round guy or maybe even mister irrelevant who you
actually are not allowed to pay them big money until
like their fourth or fifth year. That's what the Niners did. Now,
I don't know if this is where they wanted to
get to. My guess is this is a stopgap year
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next year or two first round draft picks. They want
to be drafting a quarterback in the first round, that's
my guess. But in the meantime, you take a swing
at a Flaco and you see what he can do,
and if not, you take a swing at some of
these young guys and see what they can do. But
you have to be willing to know this is short term.
I got to figure out something long term, and generally
a high first round draft pick it has a greater
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likelihood of success. It's really easy to be critical of
the Browns. It is I would love to know the
real reason that they circle back to drafting Shador. My
guess is the owner encouraged them to do it, or
even told them to do it. Just I'd love to
know the process. But you also have to take into
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context that much like when I go get a haircut,
I tell the barber, sorry, man, I'm not giving you
a blank canvas. Do the best you can with what
I got. And that's what they're doing in Cleveland. Whatever
you thought of the Deshaun Watson deal, that was mostly
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the owner, and I'm not sure you could have foreseen
how disappointing his performance has been and the two Achilles
Tenant injuries. Right, Okay, So it's really easy for us
to say, hey, you know, why didn't they just draft
a guy, or hey, why didn't they do this, or hey,
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we don't realize they were They're cash strapped and salary
cast strapped at the position because Desaun Watson is still
under contract and they redid his deal in the offseason.
So if you still have Deshaun Watson there and you
only had first round pick, and you have two first
round draft picks next year, you got Okay, how do
I get to next year while giving myself the best
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chance to succeed this year? And then also maybe I
find a young quarterback who I don't have to pay
anything to, who can man my ship for the year
for a couple of years, and maybe I can trade
that first round draft pick even Taiwan if I find
my guy. But I promise you this, if you really
are a should door Sanders fan, say nothing, tweet nothing,
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act as if nothing has happened, nothing has changed, and
just wait and if he's good enough and he performs
well enough, he'll be the guy for at the end
of the year and for years to come. And if
he's not, he won't. But the more discussion there is,
the more attitude there is, the more the calls for
him to play and fairness and people throwing out the
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idea that there's racism involved. All this craziness you see
online from from people who bring in some emotional bias
to some other event that doesn't matter to Kevin Stefancy.
He wants to win, and if he's not in a win,
if he doesn't believe he has a winning team, he's
got to have one that's positioned for the future. And
a rookie quarterback who's drafted outside the outside of the
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second round or in his case, outside of the top
four rounds, you're gonna be able to pay him nothing
and then build a team around him. I think that'd
be a great goal. That's, by the way, why it's
insane the people who say that Stefanski was trying to
sabotage Shador. He'd loves Shador to work out what he
can't do, and what I couldn't do, what coaches can't do,
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is you can't put up with all this nonsense chatter
over either he's good enough for he's not good enough.
That's it. And if you watched the last game, if
you thought he was better, he thought he was a
better quarterback then the other two that are ahead of him,
then you just carried in the bias of I'm a
Shador fan. You didn't watch, doesn't mean they are better
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than him. But Dylan Gabriel has played better than Shador
Sanders in his two preseis games and Joe Flacco is
more accomplished, is better, was completely at peace and got
the reps that he needed, got the reps need all right,
Coming up on the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. I was looking at this earlier today. That's
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that's interesting. Uh, we got to we have a uh,
we do have this. We got King Graffrey Junior and Senior, right,
gonna join us a little later on the show. Yeah,
they're gonna join us in fifteen minutes, King Griffy Junior
and King Graffy Senior together gonna join this in the show.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
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Speaker 1 (08:29):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I got a
thought for you guys. So the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson
came to an agreement, right, and basically the agreement is like, hey,
we're not gonna extend you, but we'll give you some
more money this year. Right, We're not gonna extend you,
but we'll give you some more money this year. Now,
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what does x Signifi. Remember they put him, you know,
they shopped him a little bit and there was no
trade mate. What does that mean. Well, it's possible the
Bengals asked for too much, but it's also possible that
other teams they didn't want to trade for a guy
who then they'd have to give a contract that they
don't want to have to good to give a contract to.
And they feel like, let's watch him play this year
and then we'll figure it out, figure out what we
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want to pay him, what we don't want to pay him.
So tell me if this makes sense to you. Okay,
tell me this makes sense to you. Now, remember Trey
Hendrickson's deal is I don't think it's perfect by any means. Right,
They gave him a big pay bump for just a year.
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He's gonna get fourteen million more this year. The revised
deal also includes one million dollars in incentives if he
plays sixty percent of the plays and the Bengals make
the playoffs. So he's gonna make thirty million dollars this year.
That's pretty good, But they didn't want to extend him
into extra years, or at least at the rate that
he wanted, so he could be a free agent at
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the end of the year. They had discussed a two year,
seventy nine million dollar extension and the overall deal could
have equaled ninety five million dollars over three years, while
accounting for his original sixteen million dollars this year. But
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there are no guarantees beyond this year, so the agent
must have go like, hey, you don't want to agree
to it, but beyond that, let's just give us a
raise and we'll be out the door if we if
we do well. I think it's a deal where no
one's happy. No one's really happy. Trey Hendrickson not really happy.
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Is he with the Bengals yet? Does he get paid yet?
But does he have security beyond this year? No, that's
just like the deal that he could have signed. And
for the Bengals, they were held hostage and end up
having to double the price of their leading pass rusher.
And if he plays well, they'll probably lose him. If
he plays poorly, they probably don't want to keep him.
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So what really changed when they had them under contract
and they didn't have to do anything. But you know
there's something about I know this from broadcasting. People always
say when you when both sides think you're a homer
for the other side, you you're right down the middle
as a broadcaster. And when both sides are a little
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bit unhappy with a deal, you've probably nailed it with
this contract. It's the dug Outleab Show, It's Fox Sports Radio.
Earlier today, I got a chance to catch up with
Ken Griffy Senior and Ken Griffy Jr. Behalf a depend
and there stands Strong for Men's Health campaign raising awareness
for prostate cancer screening. Guys, listen, it's obviously an honor
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to speak with you both. I have to point out
that I'm right in the wheelhouse of fandom for the Griffies, right,
Junior was the biggest thing on Earth, Ken Senior, What
was that like for you to experience, right, not just
having him play with play with you at the same time,
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but for your son to rise to where he was
literally the biggest sports star on Earth.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Well, that was to me, it was amazing.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
I didn't think, you know it, it would turn out
to be like that, but just watching him play when
I first went over to Seattle, he told me I'm
playing left field and he's playing so he and he
draws a square box three square feet.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
He said, you stand at that boxer and I got
the rest, and I said, yeah right.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
You know, so I didn't believe him until I ended
up playing with him. How good he was in terms
how much ground he tell, what kind of army had
the power.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Which was really amazing to me.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
I didn't know yet that much power because a lot
of time, you know, I mean you, I threw bat
and practice to him from twelve years old to just
about his eighteenth birthday. But and he didn't get it
hit in front of me games, you know, for six years.
So I just told Bobby Cox. But I was with
the Braids at the time. I said, Bobby was there
they right before they drafted him, and he said, he said,
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well go here and see your son. And I said,
well he can't hit, you know. So end up that night,
you know, first two at bats he strikes out. I
got to go down till Cincinnati play the rest because
I went to Braids at the time we got killed.
I come back home and I asked him how did
he do? He said, I did fine. I said, how
did you do? He said three for five two on
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run five r vat and like I said, he didn't
get to hit in front of me, tell his right
before his eighteenth birthday. So from twelve to eighteen, I
had to watch the drought and he did not make
contact those six years. So but to watch him play
when I got a chance to play with him, ah,
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it was amazing. I enjoyed every minute of watching him
play because I didn't think he'd covered that was brown,
but he showed me he can do it.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
And then his arm was outstanding.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I told him one time he threw Roberto it was
a Kelly out of home plate from centerfield wall. Yeah,
and I asked him, why did he get the cut
off man? It was easier to just throw it all
the way, you know, So yeah, he did get that out,
but I did talk about it.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Boy, cut off man can't ken You know.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
What was the experience like for you? And again I'll
just tell you, like I was in southern California like
a middle school kid, and part of it was that
was in the sports center era, But you were the first,
like baseball player, Babe Bo Jackson a little bit before you,
but we first baseball player that we could just sit
and watch highlights of you all day, Like it was
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mussy from your perspective, what was it like?
Speaker 6 (14:50):
No, I mean, getting drafted a seventeen, make it to
the Biggers at nineteen, having guys.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Around me who had my back.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
I mean, you know, Harold Reynolds, day Valley, Nicky Brantley,
Darnelle Cole's, Jeffrey Leonard. I mean, all these guys were
like big brothers, and all the guys who played with
my dad's against my dad. Every city I went into,
they made sure that you know, hey, this is the
areas you stay away from.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
This is I'm going to come get you. We're having lunch.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
I mean, I couldn't ask for a better group of
you know, big brothers and uncles and things like that.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I mean, I've fell into a horseshoe basically. I mean
the guys that you know took.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Care of me, made sure I was all right day
in and day out, you know. And the one thing
is true, I couldn't hit in front of them because
I wanted to. I wanted to impress my dad. And
he would sit there and he'd just go, why don't
just pretend I'm your mom?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Because my mom show up and I go off, he
show up.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
I can hit and finally I got my first hit
and instruction really and he literally opens the window of
the r V and said, now was that so bad
and closes it and drives off.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
And from that point on, I was fine.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
But I just wanted to impress my dad like any
other because most people don't understand that, you know, he's gone,
because he's still playing it. And Saturdays and Sundays, you know,
most dads are watching their kids play, you know, their home.
And I didn't get that opportunity. So when I did,
I tried to kill the ball and it backfired. And
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that's when I learned that if I just go out
there and play the game the way it's supposed to be,
I'm going to be fine. But it took me until
I was drafted. And even when I got drafted, he
came to visit me in Medford, Wriot. Yeah, and I
wrote four bats in one played appearance and it was
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a ground ball back to the picture, and I can't
hit that bay, So I don't get one of that.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
He's his son.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
You don't have to learn or learn how to use
with bats, and you know I I from that point on,
I think the most bats ever broken one year was
maybe three.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You guys remember, I'm sure you remember that hat on
backwards controversy where you go into BP and people would say, hey,
you're disrespecting the game and Ken Senior for you for
for a guy who you raised the best player in baseball. Again,
same thing, like, you can't defend your son on doing
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the right thing all the time. But this was like
a kind of a controversy controversy. How did that affect you?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
They didn't know the story.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
The story was when he was a little he was
always coming and his wife he told him, told the
kids up front, he said, if they would games, you
asked him coming to locker room. That was their biggest
thing was coming to locker om Pete Rose, people of
Peter Rows, Junior, him, my son, Craig Barrier's kids. You know,
that was the biggest thing, is getting the opportunity to
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come into the locker room after a game because if
we lost, they were coming in. So they enjoyed that.
So the situation was Junior and the kids would come in.
They would go down to the to the cages to play.
You know, each temble grabbed their dad's glove or their hat,
and every day so Junior grab my hat and he's
running down there, and all of a sudden he's putting
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the hat on like he's supposed to, you know, with
the bill out in front.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
And every time he went to throw the vaull was
go down over his eyes. He couldn't see. But he
finally just turned it around so he can see. And
that was where him just catch and throw the ball.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
You know.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
It was no disrespect of baseball or anything of that nature.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
And people took it that way because they didn't understand
what happened, what he had went through when he.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Was a young kid. I know, my hat was my
hat was bigger than his head from.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
He said, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
That's that's what happened. But everything everyone turned off.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You guys realize though now you would walk out now
if you went to a plate appearance, everyone would turn
their hand, everyone would turn around.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
That that was the reason.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
That was the reason why he had his hat turned back.
It was he was disrespecting him just so you can
can see and catch the ball.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
If obviously you can hear from my voice, it's like
revered terms and talking about you can if you could
tell the if you wanted the younger generation to know
one thing about you and your career. What would it be.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
One thing? Yeah, you don't got one shot of a career.
Take pride in it day in and day out. It's
pretty good.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
You know, people take things for granted, like they're going
to be here tomorrow, They're going to do this tomorrow,
they're going to do that.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Now it's you know, you get one shot at the
thing that you want to do, probably for the rest
of your life.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Take pride in it.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Early detection it's so incredibly important for all men, especially
African American men. It's why I'm honored to have you
guys join us, Ken if you could. Why is it
important to you that people understand about early detection for
prostate cancer.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Well, that was the most important thing for me, was
the early detection. Going back to the history of my family.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
I had four uncles that I lost through prostate cancer,
and knowing that a lot of them they never went
to the doctor and they never talked about anything, and
so if they would have talked about it at that time,
I would probably got to know more or.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Got the nul period. Because they died early and I
never got a chance to meet them. Even talk to them.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
But to me, being diagnosed early or screened early, well
it's a chance that you're you'll be you'll be your
survival rate, you know, So being you know, to me
was the most important thing. Was diagnosed early. I mean
I had to go through so many changes with the
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doing all the whole Actually, the whole process was kind
of tough on me because, like I said, I already
knew about it, but at the same time, you know,
my mother had talked about it and I was able
to go through the whole process.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, it's it's Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. Depend of course
has put a million dollars a million dollars in Prostate
Cancer Foundation, and obviously you guys teaming up with with
Emmitt Smith as as part of this campaign. Guys, I
cannot thank.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
You enough for your time.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And obviously you guys are the original father and son duo,
and I think your words and your belief and you're
telling people to open up a conversation, right, because that's
that's the hard part about it, right, Junior, is like
just having a conversation about it, which seems maybe embarrassing
to some, but it's way more embarrassing if you you
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wouldn't try and get early detection.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
The actual conversation started, you know with us. You know,
a week after he got diagnosed. He was able to
sit down and tell me what was going on, tell
me about you know, the upcoming procedures, our family history.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
And it.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Enabled me to be able to talk to my two boys,
you know, and let them know, hey, you know, this
is what's going on.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
This is you know.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
And I think that's the key, is to be able
to have the conversations. You know, one and eight men
are diagnosed, you know, and being able to to have
a survival rate that increases as the earlier de tech
is important. You know, knowing your family history, even if
you don't know your family history, go get checked, you know,
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being able to to do certain.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Things to make sure that you're there.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
I mean, there are a lot of things that he's
got to be able to teach my kids because my
kids don't listen to me, just like I didn't listen
to him.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
It's always that skipper generation.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
I tell people we have a he has a common
ally with my kids. They gang up on me, you know, Uh,
so you know he has to be around for them,
and you know, and for me when you know grandkids,
you know, I just had my.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
First Yeah, so oh you didn't know that. Yeah, I'm
no longer exist.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I just I just know that that you guys are
both the black when they say black done crack that
I'm looking at you guys both and saying it's not
fair because ken literally look the same as when we
played and see like this is I'm you guys are
stuck in a time warp, but I'm not so I
had no idea, So congratulations.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
But yeah, but this is just about you know, early detection.
I mean being able to have conversations. I mean that
is probably the key to a successful outcome is you know,
not be embarrassed. I think you know, as men were
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supposed to be tough and you know, don't do this,
don't do that, don't say nothing. And you know, for
him to open up really shows me that I can
open up to my kids. And I think that's the
most one of the most important thing is to be
able to open up the family and and make sure
that it's an easy conversation.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
King Kinger Jr. Absolute honor I think should depend for
having allowing us to have you guys on and this
is an incredible campaign. Thank you for being our guest.
Thank you. Yeah, It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
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Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so
we've all done the mayakopas and we're wrong, and Kyle
Raley's kept it going. I don't know if this is
getting the attention it deserves right, Like to me, there's
all kinds of records. You know, I think I think
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a lot of us grew to have a resistance towards
records or towards first of its kind with the Lebron
James era, right because he's been playing so long, and
because like Lebron James is the first ever player blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, and like
(26:34):
I get it, he's awesome, But it's not really it's
like we can create it's like created records. This is
not a created record. Cal Raly is a catcher. Catchers
don't perform nearly as well in the second half seasons
the first half season. He also plays in a ballpark,
which is the hardest in Major League Baseball. They hit
(26:54):
a home run in, and he's got fit the home
runs as a catcher, which you're not supposed to be
able to do. And it's not like baseball just started
keeping these stats. Granted they didn't start playing one hundred
and sixty two games until you know, I don't know,
forty years ago, okay, but regardless of how many games
they played, no one who played catcher hit this many
home runs. Uh, this is a and again I'm going
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to I have no reason to believe otherwise. So this
is a drug free, unbelievable season from a player who
plays a position that traditionally wears you down, and he
end up playing in a place which is hard to
do what he's doing, and yet he's accomplishing all of it,
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and he's the first to do it in a sport
which has gone for over one hundred and thirty years,
and they've kept stats of it, like Jase do Am
I over selling how big this record is, how big
this number is.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
You're not You're not over selling it at all. And
I was just kind of looking this up as you
were talking talking to make sure I got this right.
He's played thirty one games at d H this year.
To your point, most catchers haven't been good enough hitters
to be DH through the history of whenever they whenever
(28:15):
the American leek said they're going to bastardize the game,
and uh, interjected the disignated hitter. I want to say
the early seventies, Isaac um So, but no catcher has
deserved to spend his off days as a designated hitter.
This is kind of a recent thing. He said, over
forty home runs now as a catcher, being a catcher
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on the lineup and hitting forty home runs, that's by
far the big the most that anyone's ever hit. As
someone who taught myself how to switch hit, and again,
the furthest I ever played was Juco summer tryouts. That
was the furthest I ever got until the world told
me I couldn't play anymore. But I taught myself how
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to switch hits. So I have a unique appreciation for
switch hitters. I love switch hitters. And the fact that
he has been able to do something that only Mickey
Mantle has ever done, hit at least fifty home runs
in a season as a switch hitter. I mean, it's
remarkable what he's doing. And if he didn't play in Seattle,
I think he would get more attention. I think that's
(29:20):
his problem. The Mariners are kind of like a I
felt this with each a row. It's just like they're
a team, but they just they kind of largely get
ignored by national media.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I would say that's completely true, completely true. But I
also think that part of the Mariners thing makes it
more impressive because that ballpark is hard to hit home
runs out of you know, first of its kind in
Major League Baseball at a position that's really hard.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
It's crazy.
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Speaker 3 (30:27):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Hilo, What you come up?
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Doug, get your ranking shoes on.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Rank them all right.
Speaker 9 (30:44):
Let's start by having you rank the three best pass
rushers in the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Three best pass rushers in the Nation Foball League. Okay,
hm hmm. Well if I go by man, that's so hard,
(31:16):
so hard because some of the guys who I think
are the best pass rushers are actually playing the inside.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Okay, the best ends rushers. I have to put Miles
Garrett in there.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
I just.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I think I do. Miles Garrett would be He's considered one.
I can't.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
I've heard Miles Garrett has great speed.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Ye, I'll go, I'll go t J Watt three.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
See what Isaac did there?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah? I did.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I'm trying to figure out my names that I want though, right,
like I love Max Crosby, Aid Hutchson coming off that,
I'm gonna go Tej what Michaeh Parsons and Miles Garrett one? Three?
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Two? One?
Speaker 9 (32:04):
All right? Very good.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
In light of the UH engagement news today, I want
you to rank the UH three most interesting power couples
of our lifetime, either both partners in sports or just
one of the two in sports. Wait, what the three
most interesting power couples of our lifetime? Either both in
(32:31):
sports or just one in sports.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Either way, three biggest power couples of our lifetime? Uh,
Stephanie Graff and Andre Agassi love love right?
Speaker 8 (32:52):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I would say Tom Brady and Giselle right for a while? Yeah,
well I mayor married for a good amount.
Speaker 9 (33:03):
Of time, right, good stints?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah? And then you know kate Epton and chesterin Berlander.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
All right, yeah, they're still going strong.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Yeah, good one. Yeah, the uh the Brady Giselle. They
actually had two wedding ceremonies, one in Brazil, but there
was gunfire at at the wedding in Brazil because yes, security,
the security guards fired at paparazzi as part of the
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wedding festivities.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
All right, now we're gonna we're going.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
To uh kind of merge this next one with one
of our other games with the rotation. Look into your
crystal ball, and I want you to rank the Cleveland
Brown's quarterback depth chart and how it's going to look
on Thanksgiving weekend of this year. So rank what the
Browns quarterback depth chart is going to look like on
(34:07):
Thanksgiving weekend of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Wow, Thanksgi weekend. So are we like thirteen games in
then fourteen games in?
Speaker 9 (34:18):
Let me give you a specific answer in double check
stand by.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
That's literally live audio of me checking. So Thanksgiving weekend,
that's November thirtieth, seventeen, sixteen, fifteen, fourteen, thirteen. That's only
that's only eleven games into the season. Actually, how about that?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, I still think it'll be Flacco. I think it'll
be Flaco. I think it'll look exactly the same eleven
weeks in. I think, look, they run the ball a ton.
I think it's a smart offense. I actually think it's Flaco.
Do I think the rookies play? Yeah, but I think
it's the last four or five games of the year.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
Now, in honor of the uh conversation you had with
the Griffies Senior and Junior, I want you to rank
the top three father and son sports duos of all time.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Best father and son sports does yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Clay and Michael Thompson three? Oh good, Yeah right, Clay
and Michael Thompson three, Stephen del Curry two and Ken
Griffy Junior, Kangravy Senior.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
What solid? That's a solid group, all right?
Speaker 7 (35:40):
You know around here, you know this next one is
kind of glass half empty, glass half full. But my
heart is cold right now because I walked into the
studio during our previous time out.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
But that's another story anyway.
Speaker 7 (35:55):
With that in mind, I want you to rank the
top three NFL teams that have the least hope going
into the season.
Speaker 9 (36:04):
The least hope going into the season.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Top three NFL teams that have the least hope going
in the season. Hmm, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, Yeah,
(36:28):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I know who's my number one? I feel like I'm
gonna go with the Jets at three. All right, Jets
at three. I'm gonna say, the Seahawks at two. Yeah,
(36:53):
and the Saints at one. Ah.
Speaker 9 (36:55):
That's a consensus for sure. Sorry Saints, Sorry Spencer, Sorry Kellen.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
And our final item on this edition of rank Them
the other end of the spectrum, I want you to
rank the top three best owners in the National Football League.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
Top three owners in the NFL, top.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Three owners in the NFL. I know who number one is.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I'll do three. If the will still own the Vikings, Ye,
three will do? Wolf two will do? I mean Clark
Hunt right, I don't. I don't know how much they're
involved in football, but they're winning, so how could you
criticize it? And the best owners in the nash Football League,
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the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I don't have the patience to jack with you today.
Speaker 9 (37:52):
Sorry, Jerry didn't make the cut this time. That's this
edition of Rigum.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Just are.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, Let's let's get after it. You know, I think
we have a little bit of clarity on the Brown situation.
I'm not sure the path to where they got makes
a ton of sense. You know. It's like we didn't
really get a chance to dig in on what Kenny
Pickett is. I'm not sure I understand why they signed
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Kenny Pickett. If we're gonna go with no one got
a real shot, it'd be Kenny Pickett. But regardless Kenny
Pickett is now a backup for the Raiders, and the
Browns have clarity. The clarity is that Joe Flacco is
a Super Bowl champion quarterback, granted long in the tooth,
is gonna be the starter, and then at some point
(01:31):
in time, my guess is both Dylan Gabriel and Shador
Sanders will get an opportunity. I think the issue is
that while there is clarity, there's still a ton of
noise as to the order of and the fairness of
who gets what, when, where, why, how. But despite that,
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I actually kind of get what the Browns seem to
be trying to do. They know they're not great, they
might not even be good. Flacco gives them a chance
to be just solid at quarterback. He's taken them to
the playoffs before no reason. Remember, they still have Deshaun
Watson under contract for a couple more years now, likely
(02:17):
won't play this year coming off to achilles injuries, but
still there they're trying to find They're actually sort of
going through the process of trying to find a quarterback.
In one of the two ways in which teams have
(02:38):
been really successful when they haven't had an elite quarterback,
they draft those two ways are somebody else's former quarterback.
You know, obviously this is not the financial level to
a Baker Mayfield, a Sam Darnold, a Genos, but it's
(03:01):
still the same idea a guy who is and no
one has seen it or done it more or at
a higher level than Flacco. Of those guys, Rams have
Garoppolo as their stopgap. Finding a guy who has experience
and some success in the league at a discount rate
is a value. And then the other type of real
(03:22):
value quarterback is a young quarterback who's a third, fourth, fifth,
sixth round guy or maybe even mister irrelevant who you
actually are not allowed to pay them big money until
like their fourth or fifth year. That's what the Niners did. Now,
I don't know if this is where they wanted to
get to. My guess is this is a stopgap year
(03:44):
next year or two first round draft picks. They want
to be drafting a quarterback in the first round, that's
my guess. But in the meantime, you take a swing
at a Flaco and you see what he can do,
and if not, you take a swing at some of
these young guys and see what they can do. But
you have to be willing to know this is short term.
I got to figure out something long term, and generally
a high first round draft pick it has a greater
(04:08):
likelihood of success. It's really easy to be critical of
the Browns. It is I would love to know the
real reason that they circle back to drafting Shador. My
guess is the owner encouraged them to do it, or
even told them to do it. Just I'd love to
know the process. But you also have to take into
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context that much like when I go get a haircut,
I tell the barber, sorry, man, I'm not giving you
a blank canvas. Do the best you can with what
I got. And that's what they're doing in Cleveland. Whatever
you thought of the Deshaun Watson deal, that was mostly
(04:57):
the owner, and I'm not sure you could have foreseen
how disappointing his performance has been and the two Achilles
Tenant injuries. Right, Okay, So it's really easy for us
to say, hey, you know, why didn't they just draft
a guy, or hey, why didn't they do this, or hey,
(05:18):
we don't realize they were They're cash strapped and salary
cast strapped at the position because Desaun Watson is still
under contract and they redid his deal in the offseason.
So if you still have Deshaun Watson there and you
only had first round pick, and you have two first
round draft picks next year, you got Okay, how do
I get to next year while giving myself the best
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chance to succeed this year? And then also maybe I
find a young quarterback who I don't have to pay
anything to, who can man my ship for the year
for a couple of years, and maybe I can trade
that first round draft pick even Taiwan if I find
my guy. But I promise you this, if you really
are a should door Sanders fan, say nothing, tweet nothing,
(06:05):
act as if nothing has happened, nothing has changed, and
just wait and if he's good enough and he performs
well enough, he'll be the guy for at the end
of the year and for years to come. And if
he's not, he won't. But the more discussion there is,
the more attitude there is, the more the calls for
him to play and fairness and people throwing out the
(06:25):
idea that there's racism involved. All this craziness you see
online from from people who bring in some emotional bias
to some other event that doesn't matter to Kevin Stefancy.
He wants to win, and if he's not in a win,
if he doesn't believe he has a winning team, he's
got to have one that's positioned for the future. And
a rookie quarterback who's drafted outside the outside of the
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second round or in his case, outside of the top
four rounds, you're gonna be able to pay him nothing
and then build a team around him. I think that'd
be a great goal. That's, by the way, why it's
insane the people who say that Stefanski was trying to
sabotage Shador. He'd loves Shador to work out what he
can't do, and what I couldn't do, what coaches can't do,
(07:10):
is you can't put up with all this nonsense chatter
over either he's good enough for he's not good enough.
That's it. And if you watched the last game, if
you thought he was better, he thought he was a
better quarterback then the other two that are ahead of him,
then you just carried in the bias of I'm a
Shador fan. You didn't watch, doesn't mean they are better
(07:32):
than him. But Dylan Gabriel has played better than Shador
Sanders in his two preseis games and Joe Flacco is
more accomplished, is better, was completely at peace and got
the reps that he needed, got the reps need all right,
Coming up on the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. I was looking at this earlier today. That's
(07:58):
that's interesting. Uh, we got to we have a uh,
we do have this. We got King Graffrey Junior and Senior, right,
gonna join us a little later on the show. Yeah,
they're gonna join us in fifteen minutes, King Griffy Junior
and King Graffy Senior together gonna join this in the show.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
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Speaker 1 (08:29):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I got a
thought for you guys. So the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson
came to an agreement, right, and basically the agreement is like, hey,
we're not gonna extend you, but we'll give you some
more money this year. Right, We're not gonna extend you,
but we'll give you some more money this year. Now,
(08:50):
what does x Signifi. Remember they put him, you know,
they shopped him a little bit and there was no
trade mate. What does that mean. Well, it's possible the
Bengals asked for too much, but it's also possible that
other teams they didn't want to trade for a guy
who then they'd have to give a contract that they
don't want to have to good to give a contract to.
And they feel like, let's watch him play this year
and then we'll figure it out, figure out what we
(09:12):
want to pay him, what we don't want to pay him.
So tell me if this makes sense to you. Okay,
tell me this makes sense to you. Now, remember Trey
Hendrickson's deal is I don't think it's perfect by any means. Right,
They gave him a big pay bump for just a year.
(09:33):
He's gonna get fourteen million more this year. The revised
deal also includes one million dollars in incentives if he
plays sixty percent of the plays and the Bengals make
the playoffs. So he's gonna make thirty million dollars this year.
That's pretty good, But they didn't want to extend him
into extra years, or at least at the rate that
he wanted, so he could be a free agent at
(09:55):
the end of the year. They had discussed a two year,
seventy nine million dollar extension and the overall deal could
have equaled ninety five million dollars over three years, while
accounting for his original sixteen million dollars this year. But
(10:15):
there are no guarantees beyond this year, so the agent
must have go like, hey, you don't want to agree
to it, but beyond that, let's just give us a
raise and we'll be out the door if we if
we do well. I think it's a deal where no
one's happy. No one's really happy. Trey Hendrickson not really happy.
(10:38):
Is he with the Bengals yet? Does he get paid yet?
But does he have security beyond this year? No, that's
just like the deal that he could have signed. And
for the Bengals, they were held hostage and end up
having to double the price of their leading pass rusher.
And if he plays well, they'll probably lose him. If
he plays poorly, they probably don't want to keep him.
(11:01):
So what really changed when they had them under contract
and they didn't have to do anything. But you know
there's something about I know this from broadcasting. People always
say when you when both sides think you're a homer
for the other side, you you're right down the middle
as a broadcaster. And when both sides are a little
(11:21):
bit unhappy with a deal, you've probably nailed it with
this contract. It's the dug Outleab Show, It's Fox Sports Radio.
Earlier today, I got a chance to catch up with
Ken Griffy Senior and Ken Griffy Jr. Behalf a depend
and there stands Strong for Men's Health campaign raising awareness
for prostate cancer screening. Guys, listen, it's obviously an honor
(11:45):
to speak with you both. I have to point out
that I'm right in the wheelhouse of fandom for the Griffies, right,
Junior was the biggest thing on Earth, Ken Senior, What
was that like for you to experience, right, not just
having him play with play with you at the same time,
(12:07):
but for your son to rise to where he was
literally the biggest sports star on Earth.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Well, that was to me, it was amazing.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
I didn't think, you know it, it would turn out
to be like that, but just watching him play when
I first went over to Seattle, he told me I'm
playing left field and he's playing so he and he
draws a square box three square feet.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
He said, you stand at that boxer and I got
the rest, and I said, yeah right.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
You know, so I didn't believe him until I ended
up playing with him. How good he was in terms
how much ground he tell, what kind of army had
the power.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Which was really amazing to me.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
I didn't know yet that much power because a lot
of time, you know, I mean you, I threw bat
and practice to him from twelve years old to just
about his eighteenth birthday. But and he didn't get it
hit in front of me games, you know, for six years.
So I just told Bobby Cox. But I was with
the Braids at the time. I said, Bobby was there
they right before they drafted him, and he said, he said,
(13:13):
well go here and see your son. And I said,
well he can't hit, you know. So end up that night,
you know, first two at bats he strikes out. I
got to go down till Cincinnati play the rest because
I went to Braids at the time we got killed.
I come back home and I asked him how did
he do? He said, I did fine. I said, how
did you do? He said three for five two on
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run five r vat and like I said, he didn't
get to hit in front of me, tell his right
before his eighteenth birthday. So from twelve to eighteen, I
had to watch the drought and he did not make
contact those six years. So but to watch him play
when I got a chance to play with him, ah,
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it was amazing. I enjoyed every minute of watching him
play because I didn't think he'd covered that was brown,
but he showed me he can do it.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
And then his arm was outstanding.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I told him one time he threw Roberto it was
a Kelly out of home plate from centerfield wall. Yeah,
and I asked him, why did he get the cut
off man? It was easier to just throw it all
the way, you know, So yeah, he did get that out,
but I did talk about it.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Boy, cut off man can't ken You know.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
What was the experience like for you? And again I'll
just tell you, like I was in southern California like
a middle school kid, and part of it was that
was in the sports center era, But you were the first,
like baseball player, Babe Bo Jackson a little bit before you,
but we first baseball player that we could just sit
and watch highlights of you all day, Like it was
(14:45):
mussy from your perspective, what was it like?
Speaker 6 (14:50):
No, I mean, getting drafted a seventeen, make it to
the Biggers at nineteen, having guys.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Around me who had my back.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
I mean, you know, Harold Reynolds, day Valley, Nicky Brantley,
Darnelle Cole's, Jeffrey Leonard. I mean, all these guys were
like big brothers, and all the guys who played with
my dad's against my dad. Every city I went into,
they made sure that you know, hey, this is the
areas you stay away from.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
This is I'm going to come get you. We're having lunch.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
I mean, I couldn't ask for a better group of
you know, big brothers and uncles and things like that.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I mean, I've fell into a horseshoe basically. I mean
the guys that you know took.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Care of me, made sure I was all right day
in and day out, you know. And the one thing
is true, I couldn't hit in front of them because
I wanted to. I wanted to impress my dad. And
he would sit there and he'd just go, why don't
just pretend I'm your mom?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Because my mom show up and I go off, he
show up.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
I can hit and finally I got my first hit
and instruction really and he literally opens the window of
the r V and said, now was that so bad
and closes it and drives off.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
And from that point on, I was fine.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
But I just wanted to impress my dad like any
other because most people don't understand that, you know, he's gone,
because he's still playing it. And Saturdays and Sundays, you know,
most dads are watching their kids play, you know, their home.
And I didn't get that opportunity. So when I did,
I tried to kill the ball and it backfired. And
(16:36):
that's when I learned that if I just go out
there and play the game the way it's supposed to be,
I'm going to be fine. But it took me until
I was drafted. And even when I got drafted, he
came to visit me in Medford, Wriot. Yeah, and I
wrote four bats in one played appearance and it was
(16:57):
a ground ball back to the picture, and I can't
hit that bay, So I don't get one of that.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
He's his son.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
You don't have to learn or learn how to use
with bats, and you know I I from that point on,
I think the most bats ever broken one year was
maybe three.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
You guys remember, I'm sure you remember that hat on
backwards controversy where you go into BP and people would say, hey,
you're disrespecting the game and Ken Senior for you for
for a guy who you raised the best player in baseball. Again,
same thing, like, you can't defend your son on doing
(17:39):
the right thing all the time. But this was like
a kind of a controversy controversy. How did that affect you?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
They didn't know the story.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
The story was when he was a little he was
always coming and his wife he told him, told the
kids up front, he said, if they would games, you
asked him coming to locker room. That was their biggest
thing was coming to locker om Pete Rose, people of
Peter Rows, Junior, him, my son, Craig Barrier's kids. You know,
that was the biggest thing, is getting the opportunity to
(18:08):
come into the locker room after a game because if
we lost, they were coming in. So they enjoyed that.
So the situation was Junior and the kids would come in.
They would go down to the to the cages to play.
You know, each temble grabbed their dad's glove or their hat,
and every day so Junior grab my hat and he's
running down there, and all of a sudden he's putting
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the hat on like he's supposed to, you know, with
the bill out in front.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
And every time he went to throw the vaull was
go down over his eyes. He couldn't see. But he
finally just turned it around so he can see. And
that was where him just catch and throw the ball.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
You know.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
It was no disrespect of baseball or anything of that nature.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
And people took it that way because they didn't understand
what happened, what he had went through when he.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Was a young kid. I know, my hat was my
hat was bigger than his head from.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
He said, you know, and.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
That's that's what happened. But everything everyone turned off.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You guys realize though now you would walk out now
if you went to a plate appearance, everyone would turn
their hand, everyone would turn around.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
That that was the reason.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
That was the reason why he had his hat turned back.
It was he was disrespecting him just so you can
can see and catch the ball.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
If obviously you can hear from my voice, it's like
revered terms and talking about you can if you could
tell the if you wanted the younger generation to know
one thing about you and your career. What would it be.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
One thing? Yeah, you don't got one shot of a career.
Take pride in it day in and day out. It's
pretty good.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
You know, people take things for granted, like they're going
to be here tomorrow, They're going to do this tomorrow,
they're going to do that.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Now it's you know, you get one shot at the
thing that you want to do, probably for the rest
of your life.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Take pride in it.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Early detection it's so incredibly important for all men, especially
African American men. It's why I'm honored to have you
guys join us, Ken if you could. Why is it
important to you that people understand about early detection for
prostate cancer.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Well, that was the most important thing for me, was
the early detection. Going back to the history of my family.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
I had four uncles that I lost through prostate cancer,
and knowing that a lot of them they never went
to the doctor and they never talked about anything, and
so if they would have talked about it at that time,
I would probably got to know more or.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Got the nul period. Because they died early and I
never got a chance to meet them. Even talk to them.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
But to me, being diagnosed early or screened early, well
it's a chance that you're you'll be you'll be your
survival rate, you know, So being you know, to me
was the most important thing. Was diagnosed early. I mean
I had to go through so many changes with the
(21:26):
doing all the whole Actually, the whole process was kind
of tough on me because, like I said, I already
knew about it, but at the same time, you know,
my mother had talked about it and I was able
to go through the whole process.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, it's it's Prostate Cancer Awareness Month. Depend of course
has put a million dollars a million dollars in Prostate
Cancer Foundation, and obviously you guys teaming up with with
Emmitt Smith as as part of this campaign. Guys, I
cannot thank.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
You enough for your time.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And obviously you guys are the original father and son duo,
and I think your words and your belief and you're
telling people to open up a conversation, right, because that's
that's the hard part about it, right, Junior, is like
just having a conversation about it, which seems maybe embarrassing
to some, but it's way more embarrassing if you you
(22:19):
wouldn't try and get early detection.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
The actual conversation started, you know with us. You know,
a week after he got diagnosed. He was able to
sit down and tell me what was going on, tell
me about you know, the upcoming procedures, our family history.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
And it.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Enabled me to be able to talk to my two boys,
you know, and let them know, hey, you know, this
is what's going on.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
This is you know.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
And I think that's the key, is to be able
to have the conversations. You know, one and eight men
are diagnosed, you know, and being able to to have
a survival rate that increases as the earlier de tech
is important. You know, knowing your family history, even if
you don't know your family history, go get checked, you know,
(23:12):
being able to to do certain.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Things to make sure that you're there.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
I mean, there are a lot of things that he's
got to be able to teach my kids because my
kids don't listen to me, just like I didn't listen
to him.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
It's always that skipper generation.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
I tell people we have a he has a common
ally with my kids. They gang up on me, you know, Uh,
so you know he has to be around for them,
and you know, and for me when you know grandkids,
you know, I just had my.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
First Yeah, so oh you didn't know that. Yeah, I'm
no longer exist.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I just I just know that that you guys are
both the black when they say black done crack that
I'm looking at you guys both and saying it's not
fair because ken literally look the same as when we
played and see like this is I'm you guys are
stuck in a time warp, but I'm not so I
had no idea, So congratulations.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
But yeah, but this is just about you know, early detection.
I mean being able to have conversations. I mean that
is probably the key to a successful outcome is you know,
not be embarrassed. I think you know, as men were
(24:27):
supposed to be tough and you know, don't do this,
don't do that, don't say nothing. And you know, for
him to open up really shows me that I can
open up to my kids. And I think that's the
most one of the most important thing is to be
able to open up the family and and make sure
that it's an easy conversation.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
King Kinger Jr. Absolute honor I think should depend for
having allowing us to have you guys on and this
is an incredible campaign. Thank you for being our guest.
Thank you. Yeah, It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
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of the fifty home run club and he reaches the
(25:33):
upper deck like he did with home run number forty
eight yesterday, forty ninety crushed off the out of town
scoreboard and the magical season just con tissues for Cal Rawley.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
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Speaker 1 (25:50):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so
we've all done the mayakopas and we're wrong, and Kyle
Raley's kept it going. I don't know if this is
getting the attention it deserves right, Like to me, there's
all kinds of records. You know, I think I think
(26:14):
a lot of us grew to have a resistance towards
records or towards first of its kind with the Lebron
James era, right because he's been playing so long, and
because like Lebron James is the first ever player blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, and like
(26:34):
I get it, he's awesome, But it's not really it's
like we can create it's like created records. This is
not a created record. Cal Raly is a catcher. Catchers
don't perform nearly as well in the second half seasons
the first half season. He also plays in a ballpark,
which is the hardest in Major League Baseball. They hit
(26:54):
a home run in, and he's got fit the home
runs as a catcher, which you're not supposed to be
able to do. And it's not like baseball just started
keeping these stats. Granted they didn't start playing one hundred
and sixty two games until you know, I don't know,
forty years ago, okay, but regardless of how many games
they played, no one who played catcher hit this many
home runs. Uh, this is a and again I'm going
(27:21):
to I have no reason to believe otherwise. So this
is a drug free, unbelievable season from a player who
plays a position that traditionally wears you down, and he
end up playing in a place which is hard to
do what he's doing, and yet he's accomplishing all of it,
(27:41):
and he's the first to do it in a sport
which has gone for over one hundred and thirty years,
and they've kept stats of it, like Jase do Am
I over selling how big this record is, how big
this number is.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
You're not You're not over selling it at all. And
I was just kind of looking this up as you
were talking talking to make sure I got this right.
He's played thirty one games at d H this year.
To your point, most catchers haven't been good enough hitters
to be DH through the history of whenever they whenever
(28:15):
the American leek said they're going to bastardize the game,
and uh, interjected the disignated hitter. I want to say
the early seventies, Isaac um So, but no catcher has
deserved to spend his off days as a designated hitter.
This is kind of a recent thing. He said, over
forty home runs now as a catcher, being a catcher
(28:37):
on the lineup and hitting forty home runs, that's by
far the big the most that anyone's ever hit. As
someone who taught myself how to switch hit, and again,
the furthest I ever played was Juco summer tryouts. That
was the furthest I ever got until the world told
me I couldn't play anymore. But I taught myself how
(28:59):
to switch hits. So I have a unique appreciation for
switch hitters. I love switch hitters. And the fact that
he has been able to do something that only Mickey
Mantle has ever done, hit at least fifty home runs
in a season as a switch hitter. I mean, it's
remarkable what he's doing. And if he didn't play in Seattle,
I think he would get more attention. I think that's
(29:20):
his problem. The Mariners are kind of like a I
felt this with each a row. It's just like they're
a team, but they just they kind of largely get
ignored by national media.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I would say that's completely true, completely true. But I
also think that part of the Mariners thing makes it
more impressive because that ballpark is hard to hit home
runs out of you know, first of its kind in
Major League Baseball at a position that's really hard.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
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Speaker 3 (30:27):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Hilo, What you come up?
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Doug, get your ranking shoes on.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Rank them all right.
Speaker 9 (30:44):
Let's start by having you rank the three best pass
rushers in the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Three best pass rushers in the Nation Foball League. Okay,
hm hmm. Well if I go by man, that's so hard,
(31:16):
so hard because some of the guys who I think
are the best pass rushers are actually playing the inside.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Okay, the best ends rushers. I have to put Miles
Garrett in there.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
I just.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I think I do. Miles Garrett would be He's considered one.
I can't.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
I've heard Miles Garrett has great speed.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Ye, I'll go, I'll go t J Watt three.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
See what Isaac did there?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah? I did.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I'm trying to figure out my names that I want though, right,
like I love Max Crosby, Aid Hutchson coming off that,
I'm gonna go Tej what Michaeh Parsons and Miles Garrett one? Three?
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Two? One?
Speaker 9 (32:04):
All right? Very good.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
In light of the UH engagement news today, I want
you to rank the UH three most interesting power couples
of our lifetime, either both partners in sports or just
one of the two in sports. Wait, what the three
most interesting power couples of our lifetime? Either both in
(32:31):
sports or just one in sports.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Either way, three biggest power couples of our lifetime? Uh,
Stephanie Graff and Andre Agassi love love right?
Speaker 8 (32:52):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I would say Tom Brady and Giselle right for a while? Yeah,
well I mayor married for a good amount.
Speaker 9 (33:03):
Of time, right, good stints?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah? And then you know kate Epton and chesterin Berlander.
Speaker 9 (33:13):
All right, yeah, they're still going strong.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Yeah, good one. Yeah, the uh the Brady Giselle. They
actually had two wedding ceremonies, one in Brazil, but there
was gunfire at at the wedding in Brazil because yes, security,
the security guards fired at paparazzi as part of the
(33:38):
wedding festivities.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
All right, now we're gonna we're going.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
To uh kind of merge this next one with one
of our other games with the rotation. Look into your
crystal ball, and I want you to rank the Cleveland
Brown's quarterback depth chart and how it's going to look
on Thanksgiving weekend of this year. So rank what the
Browns quarterback depth chart is going to look like on
(34:07):
Thanksgiving weekend of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Wow, Thanksgi weekend. So are we like thirteen games in
then fourteen games in?
Speaker 9 (34:18):
Let me give you a specific answer in double check
stand by.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
That's literally live audio of me checking. So Thanksgiving weekend,
that's November thirtieth, seventeen, sixteen, fifteen, fourteen, thirteen. That's only
that's only eleven games into the season. Actually, how about that?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, I still think it'll be Flacco. I think it'll
be Flaco. I think it'll look exactly the same eleven
weeks in. I think, look, they run the ball a ton.
I think it's a smart offense. I actually think it's Flaco.
Do I think the rookies play? Yeah, but I think
it's the last four or five games of the year.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
Now, in honor of the uh conversation you had with
the Griffies Senior and Junior, I want you to rank
the top three father and son sports duos of all time.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Best father and son sports does yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Clay and Michael Thompson three? Oh good, Yeah right, Clay
and Michael Thompson three, Stephen del Curry two and Ken
Griffy Junior, Kangravy Senior.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
What solid? That's a solid group, all right?
Speaker 7 (35:40):
You know around here, you know this next one is
kind of glass half empty, glass half full. But my
heart is cold right now because I walked into the
studio during our previous time out.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
But that's another story anyway.
Speaker 7 (35:55):
With that in mind, I want you to rank the
top three NFL teams that have the least hope going
into the season.
Speaker 9 (36:04):
The least hope going into the season.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Top three NFL teams that have the least hope going
in the season. Hmm, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, Yeah,
(36:28):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I know who's my number one? I feel like I'm
gonna go with the Jets at three. All right, Jets
at three. I'm gonna say, the Seahawks at two. Yeah,
(36:53):
and the Saints at one. Ah.
Speaker 9 (36:55):
That's a consensus for sure. Sorry Saints, Sorry Spencer, Sorry Kellen.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
And our final item on this edition of rank Them
the other end of the spectrum, I want you to
rank the top three best owners in the National Football League.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
Top three owners in the NFL, top.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Three owners in the NFL. I know who number one is.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
I'll do three. If the will still own the Vikings, Ye,
three will do? Wolf two will do? I mean Clark
Hunt right, I don't. I don't know how much they're
involved in football, but they're winning, so how could you
criticize it? And the best owners in the nash Football League,
(37:48):
the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I don't have the patience to jack with you today.
Speaker 9 (37:52):
Sorry, Jerry didn't make the cut this time. That's this
edition of Rigum.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
This is game time on the Dog Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
There's a standoff we got to get to a reminder,
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(38:25):
Show and subscribe. Coming up next, Coming up next, It's
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