March 20, 2025 • 38 mins
Dan and Aaron in for Doug as they talk about all of the headlines around the NCAA Tournament as it has tipped off, and some of the unwritten rules and office decorum around pool brackets. Dan and Aaron discuss the Bucks and why Giannis doesn't ever get the blame for their shortcomings. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes the guys through a game of "I Feel A Draft".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
It's not deja vu all over again, but I'm telling
you it's great. It's my sports Christmas Day. Welcome in,
the first round of the NCAA Tournament is underway. We've
already gotten drama. Everything you thought you knew about college
basketball that you learned eron Torres over these last five
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days completely out the window now that the ball is
tipps and games are underway.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, I know that. I literally came on the airwaves
a week ago, right around this time and said Thursday
of Championship Week is my favorite week, favorite day on
the sports calendar. And I still think that's true. There
is something special, though, there's something special to wherever you
live in the continental the United States. If you're one
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of it, in one of the lower forty eight, at
some point you're waking up and there is not basketball on,
and it just becomes that countdown to how soon till
these freaking games starting now. If you're on the East coast,
it's a little bit longer than some of us on
the West coast. If you sleep in a little bit,
that's fine, But man, oh man, oh man, it's special.
It's such a fun day and uh little, you know,
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a lot a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
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the sports Christmas Day. The reason that I chose that
chose it last week was because I would love, loved
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to have picked the Masters. But every single of the
day day of the Masters I love, and in fact,
the final day is actually bittersweet because it's gonna be
over with and you're not gonna have it. And I
kind of feel that way on late Sunday. I even
feel that way on late Friday of the first round,
when we know that more than half of the NC
DOUBLEA tournament has been played, but there is something about
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walking in and I'm telling you, I'm Mike North jacked
up about it like I am, like I am jacked
up about it. And I've already got one team out
of my Survivor pool. Oh no. And the reason being,
Aaron Torre is because all I heard over the last
five days was I can't believe Louisville is an eight seed.
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Greg McDermott actually said it himself. What is going on?
In fact, I saw tweet after tweet, graphic after graphic
the eight seeds are actually better than the five seeds
in this NC DOUBLEA tournament. What in the world does
the committee doing? Well? Louisville gets to play the first
game of the day, an hour and fifteen minutes away
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from their home base and they get dominated by Creighton.
So all of our Louisville talk that we had over
the last few days has gone out the window. By
three o'clock Eastern time on Thursday, you and I were
on the bracket show.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
On Sunday, I was privileged enough to fill in for
Kerrie Rhodes and we announced bracket by bracket, region by region.
The first team Auburn, Okay. They're the number one overall seed.
We weren't sure if that was going to happen, and
then boom, Louisville on the eight line. That was my
first reaction, and I think, you know, Louisville being misseeded
was part of it. But the idea of Auburn having
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to play in the second round in Lexington, very likely
against Louisville, that was my biggest takeaway from that bracket reveal,
you know, among the other things North Carolina getting in
all that, And so I only bring it up because
I feel like I'm eighty percent part of that first
Survivor Pool loss.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I blame partly myself.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Now, you know, I don't know if I'm gonna pay
you back for the entry feet because I don't know
if it was one of these bit crazy bracket.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
But this was a theme to me.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
How could you do that to Auburn the overall number
one seed. And now I don't want to say it
doesn't end up mattering because they're going to face a
really good Creighton team, but a Louisville team that got
a lot of oxygen both about their seeding but then
also about where they would be playing their opening and
we all presume second round games quite literally the first
team out of the main bracket of sixty four.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
When someone is misseeded, everyone that's connected to that is penalized. Like,
let's be honest, Creighton wins today and dominates like they
started out, missed a couple of shots early, and then
once they got in rhythm, they never looked back, basically
keeping Louisville at arm's length for the entire second half.
So it really wasn't even close in the second half,
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wasn't a blowout, but at no point did you feel
that Creighton was going to be threatened. But it's the
fact of Creighton didn't deserve to play Louisville. Louisville probably
didn't deserve to play Creighton, and now as you have
Auburn sitting there, that's what everybody focused on. I'm not
making any excuses from Louisville, and I actually think the
talk of Louisville probably helped Creighton no doubt in this
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window and to be motivated, which is crazy to think
that you would actually be need motivation in an NCAA
tournament game. But let's be real, they took the crowd
out of it early with the motivation ended up being
on their side after they started knocking down shots and
Louisville couldn't defend the Blue Jays and Creighton's nailing threes
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at the end of the half, and Creighton brought their
own contingent there and all of the talk that we
had is now over again by three o'clock Eastern time
on Thursday, Which is funny because two of the days
of this week, between the selection show and the first four,
we're talked about North Carolina. Yes, and the conversation and
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when Doug was in Doug's down in today, Doug was
in on the herd for Colin Cowherd earlier today. So
that's why you have Aaron and myself here live from
the TIREC dot com studios. But the conversation is, it's
not about North Carolina validating their spot in the tournament.
You either have a resume to get in or you don't.
They were borderlined. There are a lot of borderline teams.
I think the thing that we forget is San Diego
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State was probably a borderline team. That's why they were
playing in the first four. But now of everything we
heard about North Carolina, it is completely flipped. Aaron to
the point where North Carolina is now favored against Ole
Miss tomorrow in their game in Milwaukee. So now this
narrative that you heard for the first two days about
North Carolina doesn't deserve to get in. They've they've only
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done this, they haven't done this, and that that is
completely flipped from them being not being in the tournament
to now they're favored over a sixth seed in the
South Region.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It's nuts, well, it is, and it is amazing how
quickly the narratives change. And with the North Carolina thing,
you know, I thought it was interesting even in real
time of like, you know, yes, they probably shouldn't have
been in, but part of the North Carolina conversation was
who they got in relative to who was left out.
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You and I again were on air, nobody had West
Virginia not in the bracket, and as a matter of fact,
to take it a step further, it took us a second.
We were like, well, wait a second, now, if North
Carolina's in, if San Diego State is in its Texas
the most losses ever for an at large candidate.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Xavier was very much on that in or out.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I think you picked up on Ohio State right away,
but I think the conversation became North Carolina, but then
North Carolina relative to some of the teams that got out,
most notably West Virginia. So it is interesting how quickly
the narratives change, but it also shows you outside of
what we think are the top few teams, the margin
is very thin where North Carolina and I think I've
even put it out on social media the other day
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is like, yeah, North Carolina probably based on the resume,
did not get deserved to get in. But the counter
to that is that even if they didn't deserve to
get in, they had won seven in a row going
into the first Duke game, almost beat them a second
time with Cooper Flag. It's not as though they were
a nobody. It's just based on who got left out,
they didn't have much of a resume, So this should
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make sense.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, we've got a lot in store for you over
the next two hours. We are going to be keeping
tabs on the games that are going on right now. Perdue,
you heard Isaac Lowenkron say at the top of the hour,
if you're just tuning in Perdue, I don't want to
say survives. But high Point made it interesting for a while,
and there was a point with about eight minutes to go,
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where High Point ends up making a run and Purdue
starts to feel it. Yeh, no doubt and and Braydon Smith,
all American for Purdue attacks the lane, comes up short
on a shot, misses now High Points. You know, within
a couple of points, he commits a bad foul. All
of the stuff with Purdue, like even you can make
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it to an NCAA championship game the year before and
it doesn't matter obviously, Zachid he's not there, and there's
different players there, but there. He's also then the thought
of huh, here we go with Purdue again, shaking that
stuff is real. I felt that Purdue felt it at
points today even though they held off High Point in
the end. But that's what makes today so great. And
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we've got people in our studio just like probably in
your office building that are in and out talking about
their bracket. Iowa Sam is all about his teams. It's
just a great, great day for sports fans with the
first round of the tournament.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
It is, and whether you're in a survivor pool, whether
you're in a bracket. I know it's the cliche thing
to talk about, but everybody has some degree of investment.
You know, you get your kids involved, to get your
wife involved, to get your husband involved, to get whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
You don't have to be a sports fan.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It's just it's really fun and it is amazing, like
you said, how quickly conversations can change. But then also
just even for the people like you and myself who
do like the sport a little bit more like you said,
you know, oh my goodness, here we go with Purdue again,
and then oh they win by a comfortable margin, and
we're on to the next thing in the next game.
So it's just it really is, like I said, to
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lead a segment. I know I have said in the
past on these airwaves that the Thursday of Championship Week
is my favorite day. But there is a little bit
of a vibe and a juice in the air right now.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Jason Stewart's our executive producer. Iowa Sam our technical producer,
and I mentioned Isac Low and Crown is at the
news desk. I do have to ask Sam, because I
started this show telling you that in one of my
Survivor entries, I went with Louisville. Figure. Let's if it's
if it's a coin flip. We're seeing a lot of
love for Louisville. So one gay man if I've already
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got a survivorpool Entry knocked out. All the while, I'm
hearing this guy pop in and out of the studio
being like, all right, Creighton, let's go Creighton. What are you?
Are you just all heartland? Do you have Creighton in
the brackets?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Where I just I feel like, you know, you cling
onto a team like Creighton in the bracket You're like,
I like him in this game and then kind of
snowballs and you're like, you know, in this matchup. I
like them too. I have them going, I think the
Elite eight. Watch them play and like they're a good,
solid Big East team. I don't know if they're, but
I also have I also have Saint John's going a
long way too.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay, well I didn't, but no, I am but curious Crayton.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I think I like because they made it right under McDermott.
They made it to the Lated a few years ago,
didn't they. Yes, they did so lost in a heartbreaker
to San Diego State. So I think that they are
a team now that can they can princeton them the
Sweet sixteen. I like Creighton. I think there they are
my Midwest darlings and the.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Iowa State Cyclones.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Oh well they lost uh they lost Gilbert right, Oh
so you're fro so only if they if they, if
they had their full roster, they'd be your squad.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
But yeah, this is part of the this is part
of the issue.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
This is I think that I have I can't remember
exactly how far I have the Cyclones going, but not
as far as the Blue Jays.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You had a segment all on some Fox Sports radio
called the Iowa Minute, and you would talk about all
things Iowa. It now seems to have expanded to eastern Nebraska.
Like if you're gonna bring Creighton in.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Omaha is like right on the border Iowa and a
lot of people that live in Iowa and then work
in sua, yes, and vice versa.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I don't know if that gives you rights. We're not
calling you Nebraska, Sam. No, I do not ever want
to be known as Nebraska. Sam. Here's the ultimate question.
And Aaron, I don't know if this bothers you. I
know it bothers Jason Stewart and and it would bother
me when I find out the answer. In these bracket pools.
Did you put any money down or are they just
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like free ESPN, CBS Sports, Fox Sports Radio based pools.
Is there any of your cash into the to this pool?
I only did one bracket one pool, and that is
the Fox Sports Radio inter office. Okay, so it costs
you zero, costs me zero. I'm already out fifty bucks. Okay,
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So let's yeah, that's yeah, it's not it's not fun.
I just don't think that guy at your job deserves
breaking rights. Oh zero. Jason Stewart, are you are you
with me on this? Like there's like to your point,
like there's no skin in the game for Sam and.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
And the thing about Sam, though, is the part of
the story that's even more aggravating is that you can't
fault him for not knowing that you had hard money
on again that he's rooting against, but then you told
him you did, and then on the way out the door,
he's like, let's go Crichton. So that's just really he
has no sympathy.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I have no sympathy.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Everyone's got their rooting interests and everyone's got a different bracket.
So it's like, you know, winner Victor takes the spoils,
but free rooting interest is a lot different than hard
earned mine. I am in this, I am in this
this FSR Interoffice Pool bracket for the glory and the competitiveness.
And I would say there's a lot at steak. I'd
say my dignity is at steak and my egos.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And so this is this is true, Aaron Matried my ego.
You're not with us every day when we're here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. But you want people to know
that you know college hoops right like that's and so
like a Creighton run will solidify that. I think we
all do. We all want our predictions to go right
because of what we've said. It's the amazing thing that
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I do with the fantasy football. I do a fantasy
football podcast with Mike Harmon. Mike does our rankings each week,
and I'll throw tidbits out there, or I'll if somebody
send me something, Hey, who do you like to start?
I'm almost cheering for what I told someone more than
my own deal. But if you don't have any skin
in the game to lose it, like I can understand
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where Iowa Sam is coming from, I don't expect him
to not cheer for Creighton, but it's you know, it's
just it's a different battle that you're sitting here balancing.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
No, it's yeah, No, I think there's some, uh not
just in what we do. There certainly is some you're
rooting for your picks and you're rooting for your beliefs,
But in a bracket pool, it is every man for
themselves survival. The fit is quite literally where it's like,
you know, Iowa, Sam's the perfect example, screw your li Cardinals,
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Dan Buyer, I'm rolling with my Jay's.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, some guy lost two hundred dollars on a bet
because he took Louisville today like that, That happened everywhere
in lassit texs to be him. Yeah, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I think I've been on record of saying this, but
I think it's unfair that someone like Aaron Torres, who
makes his living doing this, has to post like a
bracket because you're basically putting your credibility out there for
the most unpredictable thing, yeah, history of mankind, and you're
judged on it. I think that's unfair. But I will
say this, that makes three of you, and I don't
know where Isaac is on this Three of you have
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now admitted that you think that your college hoop's credibility
is on the line. I think I represent the other
like ninety five percent of the country. I fill out
the brackets to add interest. In other words, I'm buying
interest in the games as opposed to trying to put
something out there and improve everyone that I know that
I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And that is funny.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And I know that you know, responsible gambling is a
serious thing. But like my wife, Oh, bring it to Vegas.
Oh hey, I don't like seeing it, and it's like
five dollars on a bracket. She becomes the biggest SIU
Edwardsville fan that you've ever met in your entire life.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, you're at their team shop ordering exactly. There's Edwardsville anywhere.
I know. It's in southern Illinois. It's about all I know.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
They screwed me in twenty four That's what I remember
about that school.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, so just an absolute great day.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
By the way, Can I jump in on one thing
really quick? Feel free, Jason. I tell you this every
year because I'm lucky enough to fill in this time
slot every year. I actually don't really care that it
is a total crapshoot. Now, to be fair, I am
the reigning Fox Sports radio co champ, along with Chris Plank,
his Sooners and my Huskies will decide things once and
for all tomorrow. But what I have decided though, I
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don't care about my credibility being on the line. But
the one thing I have decided and Dan will appreciate this.
I am not the media guy, and I refuse to
be the media guy that fills out the bracket in
real time on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That's what I hate.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
The guy that's like, yeah, yeah, I mean the bracket
isn't we haven't even gotten the fourth region. I mean
it's Florida over Purdue obviously, I mean, what are we
even talking about? So I do wait until about Wednesday.
I think this year I had the nice built in
well Cooper flag. We gotta we gotta wait on his
status before I could. But that is one thing I
don't care about. If my picks suck and you make
fun of me, but I'm not gonna My picks aren't
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gonna suck because I got peer pressured into filling out
a bracket at six forty eight on Sunday rather than
waiting till the dust settles on Twoday.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I told Aaron in the first hour of our selection
show on Sunday, before the brackets were out, that it's
gonna be hard pressed for me to pick Florida or
to not pick Florida as my national champion. This on
the heels of a conversation that Iowa, Sam and I
had about a week or two ago, in Sam said,
I think Sam was right on this, like, man, everybody's
just gonna pick Auburn and Duke, like in the brackt
this couple of weeks ago. It's before Auburn ended up
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going on their slide, and I think that that was
that was absolutely fair. We got done with our I
don't know with our show at about five o'clock local time,
and Aaron shows me a tweet that says every ESPN
analyst picked Florida to win it all. I did not
pick Florida. I said it on the show like an
hour before the bracket when nothing changed and I was
ready to pick Florida. I see four talking heads to it.
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I moved off of them. So two things on that one.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And I think this is where the credibility comes in
of Like I just think that it's interesting that that
then becomes part of the stre Well, everybody's picking Florida,
but it's interesting I picked Houston. So I'm not saying
that it's gonna be right or wrong, but I picked
Houston win the National championship. But part of it was
for the exact reason that you and Iowa Sam just
said is that for like eighty percent of the season,
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it was just like it's auburns year. Everybody's playing for
second place, you know whatever. Then there's been like this
two week window where it's like, oh my god, Duke's
so good. Then you add Florida on Selection Sunday, and
it's like Houston won the Big Twelve went nineteen and one,
and never at any point did we talk about them
in the manner that we talk about these teams. So
the only point I'm trying to make is what pick
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is right and wrong? Just how interesting the narratives can flip,
and Florida's the perfect example of how many people really
like it. But the other thing I was gonna say
too is this is also why and I'm not trying
to be that guy. And if you guys ever have
me as a guest on any of these shows in
late February early March. Everybody always wants to well, you know,
I mean, Tori, I mean, who's the thirteen the thirteen
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ish type seed, and I'm like, I need to see
a bracket, right, because you could love McNee State, who's
about the tip off against Clemson, and then you see
their draw and you're like, oh, that's a really tough
matchup for them, or the opposite can be true even
of the higher seeds of like there were times this
year I'm watching Saint John's I'm like, I don't care
who's in their bracket. I'm putting them in the final four.
And then you see, oh, they'd have to go through Florida. Oh,
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Cali Perry. For all the criticism is kind of owned Patino.
So anyway, it makes for a lot of fun conversations.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And the conversation is going to continue over the next
couple of hours. We will not shy away from telling
you scores of games as they're going on. The only
reason we haven't done it here in the first twenty
minutes is because all barns out early against Alabama State
and Wisconsin's putting the finishing touches on a win against Montana,
whether they're up by seventeen, and the Houston team you
just referenced is doubling up SIU Edwardsville right now early
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in the second half. So those games already been close.
But as games do take place over these next two hours,
when close affairs happened, we'll be telling you throughout. Isaac
Lowincron's at the news desk going to be giving us
all the info that he has. It is a great
day to be with you, and we're just happy that
you're with us. So if you can't get to a
place to listen to a game or watch a game,
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hang out with us. We want you here live withthe
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Speaker 6 (20:36):
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Speaker 3 (21:14):
Oh, Big East two and oh as well, good day
for Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
So far, so good. Wisconsin and Purdue picking up their victories.
Creighton picks up a win. Who did I miss Purdue wisconsinscy.
I think it's just those three. Houston was the fourth
tip off, so you said the Big East is two
and oh Xavier baby Oh we were talking about last night, which,
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by the way, I'm glad that you did. And then
we'll talk about the Luciless Lakers and Bucks tonight. I
know you can't move around the sites. And Dayton has
done a magnificent job from everything that I've heard, in
hosting the first four. It really helps when a school
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that's close by is playing in the game, no doubt.
And it made it and I know it's I could
hear it on TV, yes, sir, and I thought that
was great. I know it came at the detriment of Texas,
but to have that place filled with Xavier fans to
make it feel like it was a game and not
that not that it didn't feel Carolina just was running
San Diego State off the court, so there wasn't much.
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There wasn't that that sort of cheer that you get
when you're trying to make a comeback. I think that
the Saint Francis Alabama State game was great drama as well.
I'm really really warming up to the first four and
as we talk about expansion in the bracket, if you
can do more of that, then I think more people
would also be on board with it. I don't know
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if you can, but I'll say this too.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I still think the seating was wonky and it was unfair.
But by the way, Dan, we got ourselves a little
bit of an interesting game in Lexington. Right now, Auburn
only up by four against Alabama State five minutes left.
And I was going to say in that regional earlier today,
a it was electric because you know, maybe IOA Sam
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could help with the geography from Omaha to Louisville. I
don't think it's that that close, but Omaha to Lexington,
but I'll tell you a lot of Louisville it felt
like it was a great atmosphere, let me put it
that way, And so it had a lot of Xavier
in Dayton vibes. And so I know it's unfair to
teams when you have an Alburn type that could hypothetically
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or even Creighton, it was unfair to Creighton have to
play Louisville in Lexington. But the crowd in that building
was electric today.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's one of the things that we talked about. It'll
be curious to see what the feeling is like in Seattle.
I think Oregon's fans will be there for the game there,
but you pointed out that was that was the spot
that you felt Gonzaga normally is right now, no doubt.
If they get in so I think then you'll have
a huge contingent of their fans. But it does help.
It was an issue when and why the NCAA just
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decided to all right, let's give these top teams favorable spots.
It wasn't always like that. They would just put teams
in certain regions. You would have the full Southern So
how it used to be. If this was the old way,
the South, first and second round, the top half of
the bracket all would have been in Lexington. Yes, you
would have had one sixteen eight nine that at night
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would have been the four thirteen in the five to
twelve game. This allows for more fans to attend if
you break it up like they did. I don't know
they did ten fifteen years maybe twenty years ago now,
but the old way and you wouldn't have those fan
bases in and obviously it helps, and I think it
really helped with the first four. I thought it was
a good watch. The last two days, yeah, really quick.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Another thing that went away about fifteen years ago that
we need to bring back, and I think we talk
about this every year. The individualized courts need to come back.
Remember like when every city would get to design yesterday. Yeah,
it was like New Orleans, OR'd be just a big
trombone or a big saxophone in the middle of the court,
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I remember Doug pointed out the Tyas Edney bucket is
famous because the Boise State court. Ye I mentioned the
Omni with Danny Ayins and the red court that they
had and the Notre Dame BYU game when he goes
coast to coast to knock off the fighting Irish, Like
just that specific court completely remember it. There's a lot
(25:11):
of stuff from the past that they've changed for the better.
Maybe that's one of them that we should bring back
a little bit more. The courts are different, but they're
just different shades of color. They have the same logo
in the middle they say March Madness. To Aaron's point,
if you were playing at the Louisiana Supernome, there was
the logo at the trumpet in the middle. They're playing
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in La Tonight's crypto dot Com Lakers home to the
Milwaukee Bucks. The story on the surface is Luca's not
playing for the Lakers, but the real story actually may
be in Milwaukee, as Chris Haynes reported yesterday that Damian Lillard, Jannison,
Teta Koompo, and head coach Doc Rivers had a meeting
after their loss to Golden State earlier this week, and
(25:53):
it was just those three dot called the meeting. And
I'm a Bucks and by no means am I trying
to make this Bucks talk radio aeron. But you're someone
who I know at one point came up with the
acronym s ob right, same old Bucks, remember that? And
(26:14):
I came up with that. Yeah, I don't know, I
just Okay, okay, yeah, let's let's let's go ahead. You
used it sob same old bucks. And then they go
and they win the NBA title and all is forgiven.
And now the question is is it Because now you're
four years removed from winning an NBA title and you
aren't any closer than you were three years ago or
(26:36):
two years ago. The point that I'm looking at with
Milwaukee is you've changed absolutely everything. At what point does
the responsibility fall on Giannisy's shoulders. Yeah, He's the only
thing that hasn't changed.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
And it's funny because I noticed this, and I think,
and I don't want to, I don't want to take
away from your thought process, but I think I assume
you bring this up because part of it is it
does seem like he gets no blame. Is it because
he's just seen as like a nice, gregarious Oh he's
you know, he's smiling, and he's happy in and.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
He puts up thirty and twelve. Sure, Like that's that's
difficult to argue with. But and I also think that
the the targets around him have been easy targets, Like
it's easy to look at Doc Rivers and say, doc
Rivers is the problem. Look, Doc Rivers, like what he
hasn't done anything since he won the title in Boston.
It's easy to say Damian Lillard, the same old dame, right,
(27:30):
same old guy in Portland, can't win the big one.
It's easy to easy to point to Adrian Griffin, like ah,
Adrian Griffin, he was first year coach, couldn't get it done,
needed to move him.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I know he won with Chris Middleton, but early on
it was like, well, I mean, what do you expect
his number two is Chris Middleton?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yes, and this is like this is the point and
Giannie is now And Colin Coward made the point of
like are we starting to see the beginning of the
end of Giannis? Maybe so like the numbers wouldn't show it.
I think that his body at some point point is
going to start to if it hasn't already, which he's
been unavailable in playoff series because of injuries, including last
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year when they got bounced by the Pacers. It's the
point of everything has been built around him, and I
think that your point of Giannis being the guy that
everybody loves and the fresh faced guy and the guy
that keeps it real and doesn't have buddies throughout the league.
Is all stuff that US fans can appreciate. But when
the team hasn't been able to move forward while bending
backwards to do everything that they can to keep him,
(28:29):
then who ultimately is to blame? Is it to blame?
Is Kyle Kusma to blame that they bring him in?
Kyle Kusman gets shredded on Twitter every single night that
the Bucks play. Maybe it was a bad trade that
they made. I mentioned Doc Rivers, I mentioned Damian Lillard,
I mentioned Adrien Griffin. But at some point, when we're
talking about the superstars of the league, like Kevin Durant,
(28:52):
who's getting flack for what they have or haven't done
in Phoenix, at some point, I think it's got to
come down to Gianna's It's just darn near impossible when
he's second to the league in scoring, but they've done
everything for him and it's not working. So maybe Giannis
is the one that actually needs to change.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And I think and I think he's been a little
bit more vocal about things than I think, you know,
I think, because I think, yes, he's good, but that's
never stopped us from criticizing Lebron for wanting to be
a GM. Kevin Durant for moving around whatever. What I
think it is is I think he's maybe just a
little bit more calculated with how he does stuff where Lebron.
(29:28):
Whenever Lebron's leaking some to the media, you know, darn
well it's coming from Lebron or his camp. Oh you know,
you know who, you know who. I'm a real big
fan of Sam Presty. Oh, the Lakers need a new GM.
You know, It's like Lebron's really calculated with Giannis. I
think he's a little bit smarter about it. But I
was telling Jaystue before when you left, is I go
back to that New York Times interview that he did
(29:51):
and I looked it up to confirm it was August
of twenty three. He does a sit down with the
New York Times. He's got an extension coming up, and
you know, he basically says like, Hey, if moves aren't made,
you know, I would have to consider not being here.
And a month later they trade for Dame Lillard, and so,
you know, I think if Lebron had done that, it
would have been like, oh, here goes Lebron trying to
(30:11):
leverage the media. Oh, Kevin Durant another trade request, but
because it was Yannis for some reason. I don't know
if it's just because he did it with a smile
on his face, or he just doesn't move the needle,
or people don't think that he's being malicious in the
manner in which he's acting, even if he is. But
I think that's part of it, is it just feels
like people just don't assume that there's kind of this calculated,
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kind of cutthroat part to him.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It's tough to criticize when the numbers are there, and
it's tough to criticize his effort. And to your point,
I think it's interesting. I think that John Horst the
GM is bent again, bent over backwards, to make every
single move possible to try to make him happy. But
then when it doesn't work out none, yeah, exactly, we
blame everybody else. And I know it's difficult to blame
(30:57):
thirty and twelve. Yeah, but at some point you have
to figure out how to make this work. So it's
up to Giannis, it's not up to Dame, and it's
really not up to Doc Rivers. It's it's up to
Jannis to figure out a way all right, because this
is his legacy, and his legacy made me just being
beat bringing the one title to Milwaukee. But it hasn't
been good the last four years, and if it's trending
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like this, it's not going to end up well in
these playoffs.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, I just think I think it's okay to be
critical of a player that puts up those stats because again,
you know, Lebron's literally the all time, we criticize every
public thing that he makes, KD, the same whatever. I
just think that it's that, you know, we assume, like
I said, we assume, oh, he's always smiling. We know
the story he came over. He didn't know anything about America.
(31:42):
You know, he it his first ice cream cone, and
it's like, so, I think we still see him as
that guy, not as the cutthroat guy that's pulling strings
behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
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your podcast. You mentioned it, Aaron that we've got a
ball game between Auburn and Alabama State twenty nine twenty seven,
three point fifty eight left to go in the first half,
Tigers up by two. Coming up next? What team do
you love to root against in the NCAA Tournament. We'll
tell you next year. On Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Doug Golleb Show, Fox Sports Radio Live Forthethyrek dot com Studios.
I'm Dan Pyre. He's Aaron Torres. Auburn getting all they
can and more from Alabama State, folks, the top seed
in the South right now on the Ropes. Minute thirteen
left Auburn up just three thirty four to thirty one.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
By the way, the last time that Auburn looked like
Auburn was in Reparina when they beat Conucky by about
thirty to clinch the SEC regular season titles. So I
don't know exactly what has happened since then, but they
beat Kentucky ninety four to seventy eight in the same
arena about a month ago. They are one in four
since then, one and three since then, including an SEC
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tournament loss a few days ago to Tennessee. But Alabama State, Yeah,
give them all they can handle.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
So it's a game in Lexington, and it's a game
here on Fox Sports Radio with Isaac Longcron.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
All right, Isaac, what do you got today?
Speaker 7 (33:36):
There any lemon pepper wings left? Oh hey, guys, sorry
about that.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
All right.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Today's game, inspired by the NCBLEA.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Tournament, is I feel a draft.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Today's draft, we're gonna be picking teams you love to
root against in the NCBLEA tournament. We're gonna have a
snake format, so we'll have Dan Bayer drafting first fall
by Jason Stewart, Aaron Torres, Iowa, Sam and then Wah
and back around again. Teams you love to root against
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against in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'm just gonna take one for the team here, and
I think consensus. It's not that I hate them, but
Duke is the only answer right now, Like I have
to take duke number one, I will sacrifice it for
the field. I may have other personal biases, but I
will take Duke number one.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
They were going to get all ten picks, Jason Stewart
with the second pick.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I feel like this is more of a rooting against
the head coach contest, and I always root against Cali Perry. Now,
I will say my level of expertise about this bracket
goes to this ninety seconds ago. I just asked, Sam,
is Arkansas in the bracket? So I'm rooting against Arkansas.
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Woo pig sweet.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I love it. I actually think Cali Perry would just
be a good enough answer. I actually think that that works. Copper.
I'll throw a curveball.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I'm gonna say, Don Staley, whoa.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Very clever.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
This is a little bit of my Yukon bias. I
thought she was anointed a little too quickly. Now she
is now a three time champion, but two coming in
the last three NCAA tournaments, and I thought, you know,
they're trying to put her on commercials with Coach K.
Coach K's got five in his back pocket, she's got one.
So yeah, and maybe it's more of the way that
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the media is trying to prop her up. Maybe I'm
actually rooting against the media, but uh, root against Don Steley.
By the way, one time I criticized her and people
came at me. That's actually the ultimate compliment. How can
you go after her like that? It's that I'm treating
her no different than a coach k A.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Cal Perry.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
You're for your big favorite and you fall apart, that's
on you.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
She'll be mentioning you in her next press conference.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
By the way, probably I'm a big fan of Don Staley.
But what I loved is two of the number one
seed coaches and the women's tournament complained about their seeding.
It happened. Don Stanley and Lindsay Gottlieb both complained, like
how does that happen? Sorry? Sam, you're up at number four?
With apologies to Aaron Torres, get some facts and go
back and see me. I got a root against you.
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Came the power team with the last twenty five years.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
I was going to pick against Yukon, but instead I'm
gonna pick against Saint John's. And here's why, Just so
we can get some amazing Rick Patino behind the scenes
content after a loss. And with my next pick, I'm
gonna go Michigan because my Cinderella favorite team. How about
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those you see San Diego. Triton's the twelve seed in
their first year of eligibility, so I'm rooting for them
against Michigan tonight. And with that we go back to Iowa.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Sam all right, this is kind of like, I guess
rooting against Nebraska for what they did in football in
the nineties.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I'm gonna say the Indian Hoosiers. The Hoosiers. That's a
really good pick.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I will say that this is a new one that
has shot up the charts. He sort of rooting against
UCLA tonight. I would have never said that, But if
I have to deal with one more Mick cronin whining
press conference, I'm just the guy never stops whining. We
need you joined the Big Ten. You knew how much
the travel was going to be.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Suck it up.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
I'm going to take Aaron Torres lead. I didn't even
think it that women were in play here, so I'm
going to go Kim Maulki and I had to google
whether or not she's still LSU Tiger. She is and
then the Google story that I got. The headline is
multi bias every LSU student ticket for the first two
rounds of the tournament. But I'm still rooting against her.
Ye hate puppies too? Or what?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Jay Stew My goodness, let's be real, sorry, Jason Syracuse.
When Syracuse is in I negative to do well because
of the alumni cries that we hear from all Also, the.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Zone is just so boring and annoying, Like when teams
can't figure out the zone and they shoot three of
thirty one from three. It's the most frustrating, annoying thing
to watch.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
All right, that's game time, thank you very much. Isaac
long Crown. Auburn has extended their lead to ten at
the half, and we go back to nineteen ninety five
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
It's not deja vu all over again, but I'm telling
you it's great. It's my sports Christmas Day. Welcome in,
the first round of the NCAA Tournament is underway. We've
already gotten drama. Everything you thought you knew about college
basketball that you learned eron Torres over these last five
(00:39):
days completely out the window now that the ball is
tipps and games are underway.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, I know that. I literally came on the airwaves
a week ago, right around this time and said Thursday
of Championship Week is my favorite week, favorite day on
the sports calendar. And I still think that's true. There
is something special, though, there's something special to wherever you
live in the continental the United States. If you're one
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of it, in one of the lower forty eight, at
some point you're waking up and there is not basketball on,
and it just becomes that countdown to how soon till
these freaking games starting now. If you're on the East coast,
it's a little bit longer than some of us on
the West coast. If you sleep in a little bit,
that's fine, But man, oh man, oh man, it's special.
It's such a fun day and uh little, you know,
(01:30):
a lot a lot.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
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should be. I have to say this about this being
the sports Christmas Day. The reason that I chose that
chose it last week was because I would love, loved
(01:53):
to have picked the Masters. But every single of the
day day of the Masters I love, and in fact,
the final day is actually bittersweet because it's gonna be
over with and you're not gonna have it. And I
kind of feel that way on late Sunday. I even
feel that way on late Friday of the first round,
when we know that more than half of the NC
DOUBLEA tournament has been played, but there is something about
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walking in and I'm telling you, I'm Mike North jacked
up about it like I am, like I am jacked
up about it. And I've already got one team out
of my Survivor pool. Oh no. And the reason being,
Aaron Torre is because all I heard over the last
five days was I can't believe Louisville is an eight seed.
(02:35):
Greg McDermott actually said it himself. What is going on?
In fact, I saw tweet after tweet, graphic after graphic
the eight seeds are actually better than the five seeds
in this NC DOUBLEA tournament. What in the world does
the committee doing? Well? Louisville gets to play the first
game of the day, an hour and fifteen minutes away
(02:58):
from their home base and they get dominated by Creighton.
So all of our Louisville talk that we had over
the last few days has gone out the window. By
three o'clock Eastern time on Thursday, you and I were
on the bracket show.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
On Sunday, I was privileged enough to fill in for
Kerrie Rhodes and we announced bracket by bracket, region by region.
The first team Auburn, Okay. They're the number one overall seed.
We weren't sure if that was going to happen, and
then boom, Louisville on the eight line. That was my
first reaction, and I think, you know, Louisville being misseeded
was part of it. But the idea of Auburn having
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to play in the second round in Lexington, very likely
against Louisville, that was my biggest takeaway from that bracket reveal,
you know, among the other things North Carolina getting in
all that, And so I only bring it up because
I feel like I'm eighty percent part of that first
Survivor Pool loss.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I blame partly myself.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Now, you know, I don't know if I'm gonna pay
you back for the entry feet because I don't know
if it was one of these bit crazy bracket.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
But this was a theme to me.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
How could you do that to Auburn the overall number
one seed. And now I don't want to say it
doesn't end up mattering because they're going to face a
really good Creighton team, but a Louisville team that got
a lot of oxygen both about their seeding but then
also about where they would be playing their opening and
we all presume second round games quite literally the first
team out of the main bracket of sixty four.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
When someone is misseeded, everyone that's connected to that is penalized. Like,
let's be honest, Creighton wins today and dominates like they
started out, missed a couple of shots early, and then
once they got in rhythm, they never looked back, basically
keeping Louisville at arm's length for the entire second half.
So it really wasn't even close in the second half,
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wasn't a blowout, but at no point did you feel
that Creighton was going to be threatened. But it's the
fact of Creighton didn't deserve to play Louisville. Louisville probably
didn't deserve to play Creighton, and now as you have
Auburn sitting there, that's what everybody focused on. I'm not
making any excuses from Louisville, and I actually think the
talk of Louisville probably helped Creighton no doubt in this
(05:10):
window and to be motivated, which is crazy to think
that you would actually be need motivation in an NCAA
tournament game. But let's be real, they took the crowd
out of it early with the motivation ended up being
on their side after they started knocking down shots and
Louisville couldn't defend the Blue Jays and Creighton's nailing threes
(05:31):
at the end of the half, and Creighton brought their
own contingent there and all of the talk that we
had is now over again by three o'clock Eastern time
on Thursday, Which is funny because two of the days
of this week, between the selection show and the first four,
we're talked about North Carolina. Yes, and the conversation and
(05:51):
when Doug was in Doug's down in today, Doug was
in on the herd for Colin Cowherd earlier today. So
that's why you have Aaron and myself here live from
the TIREC dot com studios. But the conversation is, it's
not about North Carolina validating their spot in the tournament.
You either have a resume to get in or you don't.
They were borderlined. There are a lot of borderline teams.
I think the thing that we forget is San Diego
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State was probably a borderline team. That's why they were
playing in the first four. But now of everything we
heard about North Carolina, it is completely flipped. Aaron to
the point where North Carolina is now favored against Ole
Miss tomorrow in their game in Milwaukee. So now this
narrative that you heard for the first two days about
North Carolina doesn't deserve to get in. They've they've only
(06:34):
done this, they haven't done this, and that that is
completely flipped from them being not being in the tournament
to now they're favored over a sixth seed in the
South Region.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It's nuts, well, it is, and it is amazing how
quickly the narratives change. And with the North Carolina thing,
you know, I thought it was interesting even in real
time of like, you know, yes, they probably shouldn't have
been in, but part of the North Carolina conversation was
who they got in relative to who was left out.
(07:05):
You and I again were on air, nobody had West
Virginia not in the bracket, and as a matter of fact,
to take it a step further, it took us a second.
We were like, well, wait a second, now, if North
Carolina's in, if San Diego State is in its Texas
the most losses ever for an at large candidate.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Xavier was very much on that in or out.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I think you picked up on Ohio State right away,
but I think the conversation became North Carolina, but then
North Carolina relative to some of the teams that got out,
most notably West Virginia. So it is interesting how quickly
the narratives change, but it also shows you outside of
what we think are the top few teams, the margin
is very thin where North Carolina and I think I've
even put it out on social media the other day
(07:46):
is like, yeah, North Carolina probably based on the resume,
did not get deserved to get in. But the counter
to that is that even if they didn't deserve to
get in, they had won seven in a row going
into the first Duke game, almost beat them a second
time with Cooper Flag. It's not as though they were
a nobody. It's just based on who got left out,
they didn't have much of a resume, So this should
(08:07):
make sense.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, we've got a lot in store for you over
the next two hours. We are going to be keeping
tabs on the games that are going on right now. Perdue,
you heard Isaac Lowenkron say at the top of the hour,
if you're just tuning in Perdue, I don't want to
say survives. But high Point made it interesting for a while,
and there was a point with about eight minutes to go,
(08:29):
where High Point ends up making a run and Purdue
starts to feel it. Yeh, no doubt and and Braydon Smith,
all American for Purdue attacks the lane, comes up short
on a shot, misses now High Points. You know, within
a couple of points, he commits a bad foul. All
of the stuff with Purdue, like even you can make
(08:51):
it to an NCAA championship game the year before and
it doesn't matter obviously, Zachid he's not there, and there's
different players there, but there. He's also then the thought
of huh, here we go with Purdue again, shaking that
stuff is real. I felt that Purdue felt it at
points today even though they held off High Point in
the end. But that's what makes today so great. And
(09:14):
we've got people in our studio just like probably in
your office building that are in and out talking about
their bracket. Iowa Sam is all about his teams. It's
just a great, great day for sports fans with the
first round of the tournament.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
It is, and whether you're in a survivor pool, whether
you're in a bracket. I know it's the cliche thing
to talk about, but everybody has some degree of investment.
You know, you get your kids involved, to get your
wife involved, to get your husband involved, to get whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
You don't have to be a sports fan.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It's just it's really fun and it is amazing, like
you said, how quickly conversations can change. But then also
just even for the people like you and myself who
do like the sport a little bit more like you said,
you know, oh my goodness, here we go with Purdue again,
and then oh they win by a comfortable margin, and
we're on to the next thing in the next game.
So it's just it really is, like I said, to
(10:01):
lead a segment. I know I have said in the
past on these airwaves that the Thursday of Championship Week
is my favorite day. But there is a little bit
of a vibe and a juice in the air right now.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Jason Stewart's our executive producer. Iowa Sam our technical producer,
and I mentioned Isac Low and Crown is at the
news desk. I do have to ask Sam, because I
started this show telling you that in one of my
Survivor entries, I went with Louisville. Figure. Let's if it's
if it's a coin flip. We're seeing a lot of
love for Louisville. So one gay man if I've already
(10:34):
got a survivorpool Entry knocked out. All the while, I'm
hearing this guy pop in and out of the studio
being like, all right, Creighton, let's go Creighton. What are you?
Are you just all heartland? Do you have Creighton in
the brackets?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Where I just I feel like, you know, you cling
onto a team like Creighton in the bracket You're like,
I like him in this game and then kind of
snowballs and you're like, you know, in this matchup. I
like them too. I have them going, I think the
Elite eight. Watch them play and like they're a good,
solid Big East team. I don't know if they're, but
I also have I also have Saint John's going a
long way too.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay, well I didn't, but no, I am but curious Crayton.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I think I like because they made it right under McDermott.
They made it to the Lated a few years ago,
didn't they. Yes, they did so lost in a heartbreaker
to San Diego State. So I think that they are
a team now that can they can princeton them the
Sweet sixteen. I like Creighton. I think there they are
my Midwest darlings and the.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Iowa State Cyclones.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Oh well they lost uh they lost Gilbert right, Oh
so you're fro so only if they if they, if
they had their full roster, they'd be your squad.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
But yeah, this is part of the this is part
of the issue.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
This is I think that I have I can't remember
exactly how far I have the Cyclones going, but not
as far as the Blue Jays.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You had a segment all on some Fox Sports radio
called the Iowa Minute, and you would talk about all
things Iowa. It now seems to have expanded to eastern Nebraska.
Like if you're gonna bring Creighton in.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Omaha is like right on the border Iowa and a
lot of people that live in Iowa and then work
in sua, yes, and vice versa.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I don't know if that gives you rights. We're not
calling you Nebraska, Sam. No, I do not ever want
to be known as Nebraska. Sam. Here's the ultimate question.
And Aaron, I don't know if this bothers you. I
know it bothers Jason Stewart and and it would bother
me when I find out the answer. In these bracket pools.
Did you put any money down or are they just
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like free ESPN, CBS Sports, Fox Sports Radio based pools.
Is there any of your cash into the to this pool?
I only did one bracket one pool, and that is
the Fox Sports Radio inter office. Okay, so it costs
you zero, costs me zero. I'm already out fifty bucks. Okay,
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So let's yeah, that's yeah, it's not it's not fun.
I just don't think that guy at your job deserves
breaking rights. Oh zero. Jason Stewart, are you are you
with me on this? Like there's like to your point,
like there's no skin in the game for Sam and.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
And the thing about Sam, though, is the part of
the story that's even more aggravating is that you can't
fault him for not knowing that you had hard money
on again that he's rooting against, but then you told
him you did, and then on the way out the door,
he's like, let's go Crichton. So that's just really he
has no sympathy.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I have no sympathy.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Everyone's got their rooting interests and everyone's got a different bracket.
So it's like, you know, winner Victor takes the spoils,
but free rooting interest is a lot different than hard
earned mine. I am in this, I am in this
this FSR Interoffice Pool bracket for the glory and the competitiveness.
And I would say there's a lot at steak. I'd
say my dignity is at steak and my egos.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And so this is this is true, Aaron Matried my ego.
You're not with us every day when we're here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show. But you want people to know
that you know college hoops right like that's and so
like a Creighton run will solidify that. I think we
all do. We all want our predictions to go right
because of what we've said. It's the amazing thing that
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I do with the fantasy football. I do a fantasy
football podcast with Mike Harmon. Mike does our rankings each week,
and I'll throw tidbits out there, or I'll if somebody
send me something, Hey, who do you like to start?
I'm almost cheering for what I told someone more than
my own deal. But if you don't have any skin
in the game to lose it, like I can understand
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where Iowa Sam is coming from, I don't expect him
to not cheer for Creighton, but it's you know, it's
just it's a different battle that you're sitting here balancing.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
No, it's yeah, No, I think there's some, uh not
just in what we do. There certainly is some you're
rooting for your picks and you're rooting for your beliefs,
But in a bracket pool, it is every man for
themselves survival. The fit is quite literally where it's like,
you know, Iowa, Sam's the perfect example, screw your li Cardinals,
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Dan Buyer, I'm rolling with my Jay's.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, some guy lost two hundred dollars on a bet
because he took Louisville today like that, That happened everywhere
in lassit texs to be him. Yeah, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I think I've been on record of saying this, but
I think it's unfair that someone like Aaron Torres, who
makes his living doing this, has to post like a
bracket because you're basically putting your credibility out there for
the most unpredictable thing, yeah, history of mankind, and you're
judged on it. I think that's unfair. But I will
say this, that makes three of you, and I don't
know where Isaac is on this Three of you have
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now admitted that you think that your college hoop's credibility
is on the line. I think I represent the other
like ninety five percent of the country. I fill out
the brackets to add interest. In other words, I'm buying
interest in the games as opposed to trying to put
something out there and improve everyone that I know that
I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And that is funny.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And I know that you know, responsible gambling is a
serious thing. But like my wife, Oh, bring it to Vegas.
Oh hey, I don't like seeing it, and it's like
five dollars on a bracket. She becomes the biggest SIU
Edwardsville fan that you've ever met in your entire life.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, you're at their team shop ordering exactly. There's Edwardsville anywhere.
I know. It's in southern Illinois. It's about all I know.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
They screwed me in twenty four That's what I remember
about that school.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, so just an absolute great day.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
By the way, Can I jump in on one thing
really quick? Feel free, Jason. I tell you this every
year because I'm lucky enough to fill in this time
slot every year. I actually don't really care that it
is a total crapshoot. Now, to be fair, I am
the reigning Fox Sports radio co champ, along with Chris Plank,
his Sooners and my Huskies will decide things once and
for all tomorrow. But what I have decided though, I
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don't care about my credibility being on the line. But
the one thing I have decided and Dan will appreciate this.
I am not the media guy, and I refuse to
be the media guy that fills out the bracket in
real time on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That's what I hate.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
The guy that's like, yeah, yeah, I mean the bracket
isn't we haven't even gotten the fourth region. I mean
it's Florida over Purdue obviously, I mean, what are we
even talking about? So I do wait until about Wednesday.
I think this year I had the nice built in
well Cooper flag. We gotta we gotta wait on his
status before I could. But that is one thing I
don't care about. If my picks suck and you make
fun of me, but I'm not gonna My picks aren't
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gonna suck because I got peer pressured into filling out
a bracket at six forty eight on Sunday rather than
waiting till the dust settles on Twoday.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I told Aaron in the first hour of our selection
show on Sunday, before the brackets were out, that it's
gonna be hard pressed for me to pick Florida or
to not pick Florida as my national champion. This on
the heels of a conversation that Iowa, Sam and I
had about a week or two ago, in Sam said,
I think Sam was right on this, like, man, everybody's
just gonna pick Auburn and Duke, like in the brackt
this couple of weeks ago. It's before Auburn ended up
(17:51):
going on their slide, and I think that that was
that was absolutely fair. We got done with our I
don't know with our show at about five o'clock local time,
and Aaron shows me a tweet that says every ESPN
analyst picked Florida to win it all. I did not
pick Florida. I said it on the show like an
hour before the bracket when nothing changed and I was
ready to pick Florida. I see four talking heads to it.
(18:13):
I moved off of them. So two things on that one.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And I think this is where the credibility comes in
of Like I just think that it's interesting that that
then becomes part of the stre Well, everybody's picking Florida,
but it's interesting I picked Houston. So I'm not saying
that it's gonna be right or wrong, but I picked
Houston win the National championship. But part of it was
for the exact reason that you and Iowa Sam just
said is that for like eighty percent of the season,
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it was just like it's auburns year. Everybody's playing for
second place, you know whatever. Then there's been like this
two week window where it's like, oh my god, Duke's
so good. Then you add Florida on Selection Sunday, and
it's like Houston won the Big Twelve went nineteen and one,
and never at any point did we talk about them
in the manner that we talk about these teams. So
the only point I'm trying to make is what pick
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is right and wrong? Just how interesting the narratives can flip,
and Florida's the perfect example of how many people really
like it. But the other thing I was gonna say
too is this is also why and I'm not trying
to be that guy. And if you guys ever have
me as a guest on any of these shows in
late February early March. Everybody always wants to well, you know,
I mean, Tori, I mean, who's the thirteen the thirteen
(19:21):
ish type seed, and I'm like, I need to see
a bracket, right, because you could love McNee State, who's
about the tip off against Clemson, and then you see
their draw and you're like, oh, that's a really tough
matchup for them, or the opposite can be true even
of the higher seeds of like there were times this
year I'm watching Saint John's I'm like, I don't care
who's in their bracket. I'm putting them in the final four.
And then you see, oh, they'd have to go through Florida. Oh,
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Cali Perry. For all the criticism is kind of owned Patino.
So anyway, it makes for a lot of fun conversations.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And the conversation is going to continue over the next
couple of hours. We will not shy away from telling
you scores of games as they're going on. The only
reason we haven't done it here in the first twenty
minutes is because all barns out early against Alabama State
and Wisconsin's putting the finishing touches on a win against Montana,
whether they're up by seventeen, and the Houston team you
just referenced is doubling up SIU Edwardsville right now early
(20:12):
in the second half. So those games already been close.
But as games do take place over these next two hours,
when close affairs happened, we'll be telling you throughout. Isaac
Lowincron's at the news desk going to be giving us
all the info that he has. It is a great
day to be with you, and we're just happy that
you're with us. So if you can't get to a
place to listen to a game or watch a game,
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hang out with us. We want you here live withthe
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Speaker 6 (20:36):
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Speaker 2 (20:47):
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Speaker 3 (21:14):
Oh, Big East two and oh as well, good day
for Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
So far, so good. Wisconsin and Purdue picking up their victories.
Creighton picks up a win. Who did I miss Purdue wisconsinscy.
I think it's just those three. Houston was the fourth
tip off, so you said the Big East is two
and oh Xavier baby Oh we were talking about last night, which,
(21:38):
by the way, I'm glad that you did. And then
we'll talk about the Luciless Lakers and Bucks tonight. I
know you can't move around the sites. And Dayton has
done a magnificent job from everything that I've heard, in
hosting the first four. It really helps when a school
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that's close by is playing in the game, no doubt.
And it made it and I know it's I could
hear it on TV, yes, sir, and I thought that
was great. I know it came at the detriment of Texas,
but to have that place filled with Xavier fans to
make it feel like it was a game and not
that not that it didn't feel Carolina just was running
San Diego State off the court, so there wasn't much.
(22:20):
There wasn't that that sort of cheer that you get
when you're trying to make a comeback. I think that
the Saint Francis Alabama State game was great drama as well.
I'm really really warming up to the first four and
as we talk about expansion in the bracket, if you
can do more of that, then I think more people
would also be on board with it. I don't know
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if you can, but I'll say this too.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I still think the seating was wonky and it was unfair.
But by the way, Dan, we got ourselves a little
bit of an interesting game in Lexington. Right now, Auburn
only up by four against Alabama State five minutes left.
And I was going to say in that regional earlier today,
a it was electric because you know, maybe IOA Sam
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could help with the geography from Omaha to Louisville. I
don't think it's that that close, but Omaha to Lexington,
but I'll tell you a lot of Louisville it felt
like it was a great atmosphere, let me put it
that way, And so it had a lot of Xavier
in Dayton vibes. And so I know it's unfair to
teams when you have an Alburn type that could hypothetically
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or even Creighton, it was unfair to Creighton have to
play Louisville in Lexington. But the crowd in that building
was electric today.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's one of the things that we talked about. It'll
be curious to see what the feeling is like in Seattle.
I think Oregon's fans will be there for the game there,
but you pointed out that was that was the spot
that you felt Gonzaga normally is right now, no doubt.
If they get in so I think then you'll have
a huge contingent of their fans. But it does help.
It was an issue when and why the NCAA just
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decided to all right, let's give these top teams favorable spots.
It wasn't always like that. They would just put teams
in certain regions. You would have the full Southern So
how it used to be. If this was the old way,
the South, first and second round, the top half of
the bracket all would have been in Lexington. Yes, you
would have had one sixteen eight nine that at night
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would have been the four thirteen in the five to
twelve game. This allows for more fans to attend if
you break it up like they did. I don't know
they did ten fifteen years maybe twenty years ago now,
but the old way and you wouldn't have those fan
bases in and obviously it helps, and I think it
really helped with the first four. I thought it was
a good watch. The last two days, yeah, really quick.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Another thing that went away about fifteen years ago that
we need to bring back, and I think we talk
about this every year. The individualized courts need to come back.
Remember like when every city would get to design yesterday. Yeah,
it was like New Orleans, OR'd be just a big
trombone or a big saxophone in the middle of the court,
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I remember Doug pointed out the Tyas Edney bucket is
famous because the Boise State court. Ye I mentioned the
Omni with Danny Ayins and the red court that they
had and the Notre Dame BYU game when he goes
coast to coast to knock off the fighting Irish, Like
just that specific court completely remember it. There's a lot
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of stuff from the past that they've changed for the better.
Maybe that's one of them that we should bring back
a little bit more. The courts are different, but they're
just different shades of color. They have the same logo
in the middle they say March Madness. To Aaron's point,
if you were playing at the Louisiana Supernome, there was
the logo at the trumpet in the middle. They're playing
(25:32):
in La Tonight's crypto dot Com Lakers home to the
Milwaukee Bucks. The story on the surface is Luca's not
playing for the Lakers, but the real story actually may
be in Milwaukee, as Chris Haynes reported yesterday that Damian Lillard, Jannison,
Teta Koompo, and head coach Doc Rivers had a meeting
after their loss to Golden State earlier this week, and
(25:53):
it was just those three dot called the meeting. And
I'm a Bucks and by no means am I trying
to make this Bucks talk radio aeron. But you're someone
who I know at one point came up with the
acronym s ob right, same old Bucks, remember that? And
(26:14):
I came up with that. Yeah, I don't know, I
just Okay, okay, yeah, let's let's let's go ahead. You
used it sob same old bucks. And then they go
and they win the NBA title and all is forgiven.
And now the question is is it Because now you're
four years removed from winning an NBA title and you
aren't any closer than you were three years ago or
(26:36):
two years ago. The point that I'm looking at with
Milwaukee is you've changed absolutely everything. At what point does
the responsibility fall on Giannisy's shoulders. Yeah, He's the only
thing that hasn't changed.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
And it's funny because I noticed this, and I think,
and I don't want to, I don't want to take
away from your thought process, but I think I assume
you bring this up because part of it is it
does seem like he gets no blame. Is it because
he's just seen as like a nice, gregarious Oh he's
you know, he's smiling, and he's happy in and.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
He puts up thirty and twelve. Sure, Like that's that's
difficult to argue with. But and I also think that
the the targets around him have been easy targets, Like
it's easy to look at Doc Rivers and say, doc
Rivers is the problem. Look, Doc Rivers, like what he
hasn't done anything since he won the title in Boston.
It's easy to say Damian Lillard, the same old dame, right,
(27:30):
same old guy in Portland, can't win the big one.
It's easy to easy to point to Adrian Griffin, like ah,
Adrian Griffin, he was first year coach, couldn't get it done,
needed to move him.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I know he won with Chris Middleton, but early on
it was like, well, I mean, what do you expect
his number two is Chris Middleton?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yes, and this is like this is the point and
Giannie is now And Colin Coward made the point of
like are we starting to see the beginning of the
end of Giannis? Maybe so like the numbers wouldn't show it.
I think that his body at some point point is
going to start to if it hasn't already, which he's
been unavailable in playoff series because of injuries, including last
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year when they got bounced by the Pacers. It's the
point of everything has been built around him, and I
think that your point of Giannis being the guy that
everybody loves and the fresh faced guy and the guy
that keeps it real and doesn't have buddies throughout the league.
Is all stuff that US fans can appreciate. But when
the team hasn't been able to move forward while bending
backwards to do everything that they can to keep him,
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then who ultimately is to blame? Is it to blame?
Is Kyle Kusma to blame that they bring him in?
Kyle Kusman gets shredded on Twitter every single night that
the Bucks play. Maybe it was a bad trade that
they made. I mentioned Doc Rivers, I mentioned Damian Lillard,
I mentioned Adrien Griffin. But at some point, when we're
talking about the superstars of the league, like Kevin Durant,
(28:52):
who's getting flack for what they have or haven't done
in Phoenix, at some point, I think it's got to
come down to Gianna's It's just darn near impossible when
he's second to the league in scoring, but they've done
everything for him and it's not working. So maybe Giannis
is the one that actually needs to change.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And I think and I think he's been a little
bit more vocal about things than I think, you know,
I think, because I think, yes, he's good, but that's
never stopped us from criticizing Lebron for wanting to be
a GM. Kevin Durant for moving around whatever. What I
think it is is I think he's maybe just a
little bit more calculated with how he does stuff where Lebron.
(29:28):
Whenever Lebron's leaking some to the media, you know, darn
well it's coming from Lebron or his camp. Oh you know,
you know who, you know who. I'm a real big
fan of Sam Presty. Oh, the Lakers need a new GM.
You know, It's like Lebron's really calculated with Giannis. I
think he's a little bit smarter about it. But I
was telling Jaystue before when you left, is I go
back to that New York Times interview that he did
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and I looked it up to confirm it was August
of twenty three. He does a sit down with the
New York Times. He's got an extension coming up, and
you know, he basically says like, Hey, if moves aren't made,
you know, I would have to consider not being here.
And a month later they trade for Dame Lillard, and so,
you know, I think if Lebron had done that, it
would have been like, oh, here goes Lebron trying to
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leverage the media. Oh, Kevin Durant another trade request, but
because it was Yannis for some reason. I don't know
if it's just because he did it with a smile
on his face, or he just doesn't move the needle,
or people don't think that he's being malicious in the
manner in which he's acting, even if he is. But
I think that's part of it, is it just feels
like people just don't assume that there's kind of this calculated,
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kind of cutthroat part to him.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It's tough to criticize when the numbers are there, and
it's tough to criticize his effort. And to your point,
I think it's interesting. I think that John Horst the
GM is bent again, bent over backwards, to make every
single move possible to try to make him happy. But
then when it doesn't work out none, yeah, exactly, we
blame everybody else. And I know it's difficult to blame
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thirty and twelve. Yeah, but at some point you have
to figure out how to make this work. So it's
up to Giannis, it's not up to Dame, and it's
really not up to Doc Rivers. It's it's up to
Jannis to figure out a way all right, because this
is his legacy, and his legacy made me just being
beat bringing the one title to Milwaukee. But it hasn't
been good the last four years, and if it's trending
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like this, it's not going to end up well in
these playoffs.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, I just think I think it's okay to be
critical of a player that puts up those stats because again,
you know, Lebron's literally the all time, we criticize every
public thing that he makes, KD, the same whatever. I
just think that it's that, you know, we assume, like
I said, we assume, oh, he's always smiling. We know
the story he came over. He didn't know anything about America.
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You know, he it his first ice cream cone, and
it's like, so, I think we still see him as
that guy, not as the cutthroat guy that's pulling strings
behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
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your podcast. You mentioned it, Aaron that we've got a
ball game between Auburn and Alabama State twenty nine twenty seven,
three point fifty eight left to go in the first half,
Tigers up by two. Coming up next? What team do
you love to root against in the NCAA Tournament. We'll
tell you next year. On Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Doug Golleb Show, Fox Sports Radio Live Forthethyrek dot com Studios.
I'm Dan Pyre. He's Aaron Torres. Auburn getting all they
can and more from Alabama State, folks, the top seed
in the South right now on the Ropes. Minute thirteen
left Auburn up just three thirty four to thirty one.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
By the way, the last time that Auburn looked like
Auburn was in Reparina when they beat Conucky by about
thirty to clinch the SEC regular season titles. So I
don't know exactly what has happened since then, but they
beat Kentucky ninety four to seventy eight in the same
arena about a month ago. They are one in four
since then, one and three since then, including an SEC
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tournament loss a few days ago to Tennessee. But Alabama State, Yeah,
give them all they can handle.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
So it's a game in Lexington, and it's a game
here on Fox Sports Radio with Isaac Longcron.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
All right, Isaac, what do you got today?
Speaker 7 (33:36):
There any lemon pepper wings left? Oh hey, guys, sorry
about that.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
All right.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Today's game, inspired by the NCBLEA.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Tournament, is I feel a draft.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Today's draft, we're gonna be picking teams you love to
root against in the NCBLEA tournament. We're gonna have a
snake format, so we'll have Dan Bayer drafting first fall
by Jason Stewart, Aaron Torres, Iowa, Sam and then Wah
and back around again. Teams you love to root against
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against in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'm just gonna take one for the team here, and
I think consensus. It's not that I hate them, but
Duke is the only answer right now, Like I have
to take duke number one, I will sacrifice it for
the field. I may have other personal biases, but I
will take Duke number one.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
They were going to get all ten picks, Jason Stewart
with the second pick.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I feel like this is more of a rooting against
the head coach contest, and I always root against Cali Perry. Now,
I will say my level of expertise about this bracket
goes to this ninety seconds ago. I just asked, Sam,
is Arkansas in the bracket? So I'm rooting against Arkansas.
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Woo pig sweet.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I love it. I actually think Cali Perry would just
be a good enough answer. I actually think that that works. Copper.
I'll throw a curveball.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I'm gonna say, Don Staley, whoa.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Very clever.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
This is a little bit of my Yukon bias. I
thought she was anointed a little too quickly. Now she
is now a three time champion, but two coming in
the last three NCAA tournaments, and I thought, you know,
they're trying to put her on commercials with Coach K.
Coach K's got five in his back pocket, she's got one.
So yeah, and maybe it's more of the way that
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the media is trying to prop her up. Maybe I'm
actually rooting against the media, but uh, root against Don Steley.
By the way, one time I criticized her and people
came at me. That's actually the ultimate compliment. How can
you go after her like that? It's that I'm treating
her no different than a coach k A.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Cal Perry.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
You're for your big favorite and you fall apart, that's
on you.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
She'll be mentioning you in her next press conference.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
By the way, probably I'm a big fan of Don Staley.
But what I loved is two of the number one
seed coaches and the women's tournament complained about their seeding.
It happened. Don Stanley and Lindsay Gottlieb both complained, like
how does that happen? Sorry? Sam, you're up at number four?
With apologies to Aaron Torres, get some facts and go
back and see me. I got a root against you.
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Came the power team with the last twenty five years.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
I was going to pick against Yukon, but instead I'm
gonna pick against Saint John's. And here's why, Just so
we can get some amazing Rick Patino behind the scenes
content after a loss. And with my next pick, I'm
gonna go Michigan because my Cinderella favorite team. How about
(36:33):
those you see San Diego. Triton's the twelve seed in
their first year of eligibility, so I'm rooting for them
against Michigan tonight. And with that we go back to Iowa.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Sam all right, this is kind of like, I guess
rooting against Nebraska for what they did in football in
the nineties.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I'm gonna say the Indian Hoosiers. The Hoosiers. That's a
really good pick.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I will say that this is a new one that
has shot up the charts. He sort of rooting against
UCLA tonight. I would have never said that, But if
I have to deal with one more Mick cronin whining
press conference, I'm just the guy never stops whining. We
need you joined the Big Ten. You knew how much
the travel was going to be.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Suck it up.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
I'm going to take Aaron Torres lead. I didn't even
think it that women were in play here, so I'm
going to go Kim Maulki and I had to google
whether or not she's still LSU Tiger. She is and
then the Google story that I got. The headline is
multi bias every LSU student ticket for the first two
rounds of the tournament. But I'm still rooting against her.
Ye hate puppies too? Or what?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Jay Stew My goodness, let's be real, sorry, Jason Syracuse.
When Syracuse is in I negative to do well because
of the alumni cries that we hear from all Also, the.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Zone is just so boring and annoying, Like when teams
can't figure out the zone and they shoot three of
thirty one from three. It's the most frustrating, annoying thing
to watch.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
All right, that's game time, thank you very much. Isaac
long Crown. Auburn has extended their lead to ten at
the half, and we go back to nineteen ninety five
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