May 26, 2025 • 37 mins
Dan and Monse in for Doug as they break down the Knicks' comeback win over the Pacers in game 3 of their series. Dan and Monse welcome FSR NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to talk about the major headlines coming out of the NBA Playoffs. Plus, Steve Deseagher takes Dan and Monse through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Talk in that New York state of mind. We've got
a series in the East, a series in the East,
and I think things are cooking up in the West.
A happy Memorial Day to you, monty four hours you me,
let's get it done.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I mean, I'm not gonna lie. Best way to spend
my Memorial Day with you, Dan, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I don't care about barbecue like that, so I'm excited
to be here with you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's gonna be a fun time. What as a vegetarian
would you have on the grill today?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
A veggie burger?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
A veggie burger? What about a nice big squash I egg, Yes,
I know, something like that.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
But I would like to part take in feeling like
I'm having a burger, you know. And I do love
an old school veggie patty, like with actual like veggies
and not the fake meat that we have now, but
definitely a veggie burger of some Sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, if you are grilling out having some fun today,
we appreciate it you hanging out with us. We love
to have your thoughts. You can always hit Mancy up
at Monte Blanos. You can find me. You can find
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Speaker 4 (01:23):
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Speaker 2 (01:25):
You can also find me on Blue Sky, Dan Bayer, Yes,
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anyway that you would like. It is going to be
a fun day. But I don't know if we're going
to have as much fun as Timothy Challamet had last
night in Indianapolis, and those New York Knicks as they
are back in the series beating the Indiana Pacers last
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night now a two to one matchup. I don't want
to say that this was a series that we just
pushed to the side because the Pacers had gone up
too oh and winning both games to New York. But
for as greate as New York was Manci in the
Boston series, I think we had legitimate questions about them
considering how things played out in the first two games
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of this Pacer series.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Naturally, naturally it was rough losses for New York. It
was impossible to walk away from that and not think that, oh,
this one, this one was a gut punch. There's ways
to lose where when you get blown out, you're not
just like I got blown out. Okac was not affected
or offended by their blowout loss. When you lose close
games when you should have won, when you can't close out,
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those hurt in a different way and they stay with you.
They stick with you. So I think most of us
were just wondering, can the Knicks get out of this
really gut punch of a funk. It wasn't just oh
you lost it, It was how you lost it hurt
a little much, and also losing at home. Losing at home,
and you know, everybody talks about it. Madison Square Garden
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at one point maybe was a place where visitors did
not want to go to, But now everybody wants to
go play there, you know what I mean, Like everyone
thrives there, they love it, So it's almost not an
advantage anymore for the Knicks. And that there were so
many layers of it, where naturally you were just like augh,
it looks like the Pacers may get away from this
series easily quote unquote, even though what the first two
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games were decided by what's six eight points.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And in game one that they probably should have lost,
that they should it wasn't for a miracle comeback exactly.
That's the heads and tails of this on the both
sides of the coin. You can look at what happened
in Game one and say, if you're a Knicks fan, like,
we should have won that game, absolutely, But when you
when you step back in the series, in what is
such a thin series, you have to win those coin flips,
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You have to win those fifty to fifty games, and
ultimately that game still may come back to bite New
York absolutely, even if they even if they win in
Game four on Tuesday night against the Pacers in Indianapolis,
you're gonna look back and say, if we just would
have closed that one out, we'd be up three to
one at this point, worst case scenario, and we'd have
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three opportunities to close this out and everything would be
good because everything again went right for the Pacers in
that game one. Now last night, not everything went at
least at the end of Game one for the Pacers.
Everything went right last night. Things did not go right
for the next at the beginning, but Carl Anthony Towns
put on quite a show. We're gonna hear from Kat
because he did speak in the postgame, talked a little
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bit about his confidence and his twenty point fourth quarter.
But this is the part of the New York Knicks
that if you're a Knicks fan, it's exhilarating. Yet it's
so frustrating because this is the Carl Anthony Towns that
you have wanted game in and game out. And while
they lost Game one, he had thirty five points in
that game. He was benched at times in Game two,
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and so now in Game three, by the way, Monci
had four points entering the fourth quarter last night and
then turns it on with that twenty point effort. Magnificent
quarter for Karl Anthony Towns. But this is what makes
it so frustrating. Or a Knicks fan or a fan
of Cats, listen.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Frustrating and exhilarating, those are two words I'm very familiar
as a Clippers fan, so I feel for Knicks fans
how this entire series has gone watching Carl Anthony Towns
in that fourth quarter. I was laughing because it's like, dude,
we know you can do this. He just hasn't done
it when the game is on the line, like that
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first quarter. Yeah, like it's great, but how did that
game end? And to see him do it while Jallian
Brunson was on the bench, and to take those threes
where he barely jumps, like he's not even really getting
off his feet and he just makes those shots. He
also like the way he reacts, Like I know some
people maybe like are turned off by the way he
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like reacts, but I find him fun to watch and
I could not stop yeah zesty, like I love that,
and I was enjoying it so much, and I was like,
we know, again frustrating because it's in there. It's in there.
But the problem is, and a team like the Pacers
the entire season, they have relied on their entire roster
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to perform. The Knicks have relied on mister Clutch when
it comes down to it, so we don't get to
see these moments and they're not used to it. And
then yesterday, I don't know if Carl Anthony Tells was like, oh,
I guess I gotta do it. You're in foul trouble.
You're in foul trouble. I'm in foul trouble. Somebody's got
to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
This was the crazy thing though about Kat's fourth quarter
Monzi was it wasn't twenty points in the fourth quarter,
it was twenty points in seven minutes.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Of course it was, Yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It was from the twelve from the start of the
fourth quarter to about five minutes left in the game.
And that's so in that span of seven minutes he
had twenty And this is a guy with a fifty
five point game. I think in his career we've seen
him put these points up to do the way that
he did, not only with the three, had a three
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point play or even did his little guns to bring
the next closer, and then an absolute monstrous dunk, which
then everybody feeds off of with the knicks and that's
what that's what you want from Carl Anthony Towns, but
you don't get every single game. This was Towns more
of a dilemma of not what Towns was going to
show up in the game, what voice was he going
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to use in the post game? Is it gonna be
the deep voice. Is it going to be the happy voice?
We're about to find out. This is Karl Anthony Towns
after last night's win over the Pacers.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
That's some opportunity to utilize all those hours I'll put
into the gym. And the game wasn't looking great for
me as well, but for all of us, and I
just wanted to do whatever it takes to help put
us in a position to win. And like I said,
it's a testament to my teammates, you know, having trusted
me and giving me, you know, putting me in spots
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where I could succeed and and utilize my talent. So
that's just testing, you know. Shout out to the guys
in the locker room. You know this is a great
team win. But we got we know, we gotta be
better than we were tonight if we expect to find
a way to get another.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That leaned deeper. That was not as much zest on
that leaned in the deeper. Absolutely, job's not finished, as
Carby said, job's not finished up too, Oh, jobs not finished?
Why should I smile? Jobs not finished? That question, by
the way to Kobe Bryant, asked by the Great Ted
sobel La broadcasting legend. But the job is not finished
for the New York Knicks. But they finished the Pacers
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off last night. Not only were Karl Anthony Town scoring
twenty points in a seven minute span. It's nice to
frame it in the fourth quarter, but it's more impressive
when you actually put what it was, and that was
seven minutes. They didn't have Jalen Brunson on the floor
from the seven minute marks till about ninety seconds left
in the game, and they played the Pacers even at
that point. And if you're the Knicks, that's extreme confidence
now that you have. As Tom Thibodeaux expanded his bench,
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ended up playing Landry Shammitt last night, who hadn't seen
in this series. So Shamant ends up getting minutes. And
you have to because if this series is gonna go
six or seven games, which the Knicks are good to
need it too. If they're gonna win, they're gonna need contributions.
And they did it last night with Jalen Brunton and
follow trouble. Kat was in follow trouble. He brunts it
at four fouls and I mean early, so he was
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he was in it. Kat was in it. But from
the seventh minute mark to the minute thirty mark. The
Knicks played the Pacers even without Jalen Brunson on the floor.
If anything, if you take anything from that, not even
Kat's performance or the buckets said Jalen Brunson made, or
Josh Hart's rebounding, is that your crew of I don't
want to say it's misfits, but it was a group
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that wasn't necessarily used to playing together that much because
Jalen Brunson is usually always on the floor, played the
Pacers even.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, it was funny during the broadcast. I don't know
if it was Reggie Miller or if it was Van Gundy,
but they were like Landry Shammitt, he's such a great shooter,
and I was like, it doesn't matter. He hasn't played,
so even though he is a great shooter, he's got
to get in some sort of rhythm and he is
a great shooter. And it was about damn time that
Thibodeaux decided to go into his depth because you can
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see them get gassed in the second half against the
Pacers because none of them play typically over forty minutes,
so you see them get gassed. So it was about
damn time you had to try it, you had to
make an adjustment. And just like games one and two
were gut punches to the Knicks, this win was also
a gut punch to the Pacers. They needed to win
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like this in a way where it hurt. You came
back again down twenty. This is the nixt M you
got to. I guess they'd like to be down by twenty.
I don't understand. But then they get in there and
they hit them where it hurts. So it really kind
of makes you feel like this is more. This is
not over. It's not even close to over.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
The series. When you have it too Ozero and you
went on the home court says a lot. And it
was a big lead, like the Pacers getting both games
in New York. Not to downplay it, no, there's no
reason to downplay it. But when you look at each
of those games and how they played out, the game
one was the one that the Knicks threw away and
that's why it still could come back to haunt them.
The game two was the game. Yeah, the Pacers went
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in and took it from them, even if the Knicks
had an opportunity to tie the game at the end.
That's a game that a road team wins in the
NBA playoffs, and now it's two to one. My question now,
and I can pose it to you and pose it
to anybody listening that wants to chime in. Do you
think the Knicks have momentum with this game?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
You don't like momentum?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I do not. I think the Timberwolves have momentum. Okay,
I just don't believe that it's always there. I don't
believe that each win in a series is momentum. I
think that each win has to be taken in a separate,
separate spot, in a vacuum, however you want to put it,
I don't. I think that the Knicks feel better about themselves,
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but I don't think the only takeaway that I'll say
this about Indiana on why why? I think maybe something
could favor the Knicks if Aaron Neismith isn't one hundred percent,
even if he came back into the game with his
ankle injury, I felt they were a different team without
him out there, and he obviously saved them in Game one.
But we think of Siakam for all Grady was in
Game two, and we think of Tyre's Halliburton for all
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Grady's been throughout these playoffs. Turner's been really good as well,
But I felt that they were missing something. They had
to play Ben Math and they had to play other
guys because Nie Smith wasn't available for that period, and
even though the Nie Smith came back in, he wasn't
the same guy that I felt that he was at
other points. So this ankle injury is bothering Nie Smith.
And the Knicks now feel that they have some encouragement
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with their bench, then that is momentum on their side.
But I honestly think that this matchup is each game
is going to be its own entity, and that's why
actually Game one still will stick in the craw of
the New York Knicks because it's the one that you
should have had. So I don't believe that there's momentum
in the series. I think the Knicks got one. I
think they're in a better spot obviously that they were
after leaving game two or after leaving Game three than
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they were leaving Game two. But I don't think this
is an overall reaching thing that we're going to see
the Knicks board on. I think there's just as good
a chance that Indiana can go in and winning Game four.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I think you explained that perfectly. The Knicks feel better,
They feel better going into game four, but they should
not have the momentum of the excitement that maybe Minta
so Ita has after a blowout win at home. No,
this is both of all. The three of these games
have been so close and the losses have been rough
for the losing team, So Nicks feel better. But I
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hope that's that. That's just that they're looking at it
the way you're looking at it. It's one game, one
game at a time, isolated and who can adjust a
little bit better the next one. That's what it's going
to come down to. And it seems that way because
all three games have been so close. But yeah, I agree,
I don't think. I don't think there is momentum for
the next right now.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And there is the X factor, and that is Tyre's
Halliburton's dad will be allowed back in to game Bridge
Fieldhouse four, Game four in a suite after his banishment
that lasted a whole three games for the home games.
What a penalty. You want to talk about throwing the
book at a guy three home games. Maybe he would
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have showed up in Cleveland. Maybe he would have been
in the garden. Yeah, I'm not sure, but Tyre's Halliburton's dad.
After taunting Giddison, Tetakoopo will be let back into the
building for Game four in a suite. I felt that
they should just put him in a suite anyway, Like
just don't just don't sit courtside where you have an
opportunity to run on the floor.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah. I thought it was a lot longer of a punishment,
And when you put it in that perspective, you're like, oh,
that's all he's missed. But I'm not against him being
able to come back. Yeah, come back, And that should
have been the response the whole time. Just put him
in his suite because he can't do much from there.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
The La County DA didn't want him out at all.
He wanted him to be a miss games for like
five years. That's a Menandez brother's joke that only us
in southern California would likely get, but maybe not the nation.
But still I thought it was apropos. The new DA
wanted to keep the Menendez brothers in jail, huh, and
the former DA, I think to try to get reelected.
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It was like yeah, Menanda's brothers should be free. But
then when the new guy got elected, he's all like,
not stay in jail.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And I did not know that I was the latest.
I knew that they were looking at the case again.
I just didn't know that that was the.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Latest and now. And the DA did not get his way,
So in John Tyres, Haliburton's dad did get his place.
We will be back for Game four.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
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last night. Rick, Happy Memorial Day, How are you?
Speaker 7 (15:57):
I'm good? Hey, it's a holiday, your work on holiday?
All things are forgiven. Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I had two pieces. They looked somewhat similar, and it
was my bad. I grabbed the wrong one. Karl Anthony Towns,
he's hitting miss, but boy was he a hit last
night in the fourth quarter. Montia and I were just
talking about how frustrating it must be. But last night
is the night where you reaped the fruits of all
of his labor. Do the Knicks need this Karl Anthony
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Towns like takeover Towns to win this series? Or can
they get by if he's just even a little less
of what he was last night?
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Oh? God, hope not. Let's talk. Let's hope not, because
I don't know that you can count on twenty points
from Karl Anthony Towns in the fourth quarter for every game.
I do believe that sort of maintaining I mean the
big the big thing is controlling the pace, making this
a game where first team to one hundred wins. I
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think that's really the only way that the Knicks have
a chance of winning this. And and I do like
the move of having Mitchell Robinson in the starting lineup
and playing him more. And maybe Josh Hart left nothing
against Josh Hart, but it really is not a function
of what Josh Hart is or isn't doing. It's finding
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ways to free up Jalen Brunson to do what he does.
And without a big like Mitchell Robinson setting screens, I
just don't know that the pick and roll and his
ability to get free one on one or without any
sort of help is is going to get the job done.
So look, the nixt are up against it overall. Do
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I think that this win changes my view of who's
going to win the series? No, I hope that I
was hoping that it was going to be a long,
entertaining series. I guess this gives me a little bit
of hope that we might get that. But the fact
of the matter is Indiana's just they have too much
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for uh for the Knicks. It's been it's been a
good run. But the bell weather is Pascal Siakam for
the Indiana Pacers. It's so funny, like we I always
feel like I need to apologize or I need to
like introduce anybody or anything when I talk about the Pacers.
Is it the world? Like, Hey, I got to tell
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you about this, this brand new thing over here. You
may not have heard about him to the Pacers and
all these players that are pretty good, and you've probably
never heard of them either, But no, Pascal Siaka every
series for whatever reason, and Game three in particular, has
loses his matchup by a by a vast his his
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plus minuses is off the charge bad, and the rest
of the series it's it's to the good. This it
happened again. It happened in the first round, it happened
in the second round, it happened in in Game three.
But generally does not happen. And it's not like he's
scoring thirty every game or whatever. It's simply he wins
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his matchup and he didn't in this in this last game.
I don't expect that to happen again. I think he's
a difficult matchup for the Knicks in general, or in particular,
and so I'd like to come in here thinking, you know,
advertising that Hey, now we got a series, and now
it's going to be different, and Karl Anthony Towns is
the answer. And I just I just think the Pacers
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have too much for the Knicks, and I just hope
the Knicks make it interesting for as long as they
can before we get to the the OKC Pacers Final
that you and Manzi and me will be buying nobody
else in Rick.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I don't know if you saw during that like seven
minute stretch of Karl Anthony Town's on the fourth quarter,
he went in for a dunk and then he seemed
to grab his knee for the remainder of the game,
even standing during a free throw, he kept grabbing his knee,
and he looked a little bit banged up. Yeah, is
that something you think they should be worried about. Nobody
has said anything, but I noticed after that drive he
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kept grabbing his knee.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
I what Carl Anthony does generally, his gestures and his
like everything that he does, he looks like he's hurt
when he gets off the way he runs. I mean
it's right he does.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
No, you're not wrong.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
You are, but he's running get back on but he's
going going on offense or going back on defense. When
he's running, it looks like, oh man, did somebody put
some like rocks in his shoes or something. I yeah,
he might. You know. Look the number one, most everybody
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is dealing with some kind of physical issue at this
point in the season. And two I don't I haven't
seen any reports as far as as far as the
knee issue. But honestly, Karl Anthony Talis is probably like, yeah,
I got this knee problem, so I'm only going to
shoot threes. I hope that's okay with you guys. Is
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this kind of what he wants to do anyway?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Fs? What I mean inside of Rick Buker joining us
here at the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio,
she's Bonti blainios. I'm Dan Byer in for Doug today.
So you don't believe in the Timberwolves, or at least
don't believe in them as much to win this series,
but there is momentum. Why do you still think Oklahoma
City has the edge in the West.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Just because the Minnesota Timberwolves From a talent standpoint, I
could make a case whether they're the better team and
that they could win the series, but for the better
part of this year to have reflected in their regular
season records and even in the early rounds while they
had two gentlemen sweeps, they don't play hard for forty
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eight minutes. And there's just a certain point you get
to in the playoffs where you're going to face opponents
where you have to play maybe not forty eight but
forty four. What he five like, you can't have the
kind of long lapses that the that the Minnesota Timberwells have.
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And the maddening thing is they showed you what they're
capable of when they play at the level that they
did in Game three, But I can count on one
hand the number of times that I've seen in them
play with that intensity for an entire game, and that
includes the you know, their their leader, Anthony Edwards. I mean,
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he's probably the number one culprit in terms of this.
Can't figure out when he's going to play hard or
when he's going to show you everything that he's capable
of at both ends of the floor, particularly offensively and
attacking the paint even if he's not scoring. When he's
just being decisive and aggressive. It changes the whole dynamic
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for them. You know, one of the reasons that they
shot the three wells so well in Game three was
simply because Anthony Edwards was being decisive, so that the
guys who are getting the ball aren't wondering if they're
going to get it or when they do get it.
It's because Ant decided I can't get anywhere here. It's
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your turn, as opposed to I'm getting into the paint. Okay,
now I've got too much attention here. Let me kick
it out and somebody's got an open three. It sounds subtle,
but that makes a huge difference for shooters. And so
if I knew that I was going to get this
Ant for you know, another three four games, I would
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have an entirely different opinion about who is going to win.
And you know the suspense in this series, but I
just I haven't seen that consistently from Ant, so there's
no reason for me to believe it. I'm going to
see it going forward.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Okay, So I have a it's not a theory, and
I believe more in the Timberwolves than you do in
this series. But I also know how the NBA goes.
So the Timberwolves do bow out against Okac and it's
the second straight year West and Conference Finals. There's gonna
be money, there's gonna be contracts, Like is is Chris
Finch like in in danger because we saw Michael Malone
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bi Austin at the end of the regular season. You know,
not even two years removed from a title. It would
be the second straight year changes Obviously you'd have to
try to think that something needs to be done to
get over that hump. What could be the fallout for
Minnesota if they don't get it done this time around.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
I honestly, we've got brand new ownership, so there's always
that always raises a question in terms of who they
want going forward. But as far as Chris Finch, in
his relationship with the guys in the in the locker room,
it's completely different than than the one that Mike Malone
had with UH with guys you know, the the the
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It's just it's a different relationship. Mike. Mike for all
the years that he was there, never cultivated a close
relationship with with guys like Aaron Gordon and Michael Porter Jr.
And they went through some things and I'm blanking on
the guy on the bench. The off se that who's
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Chris Finch had made a great gesture for him and
his son got him into a game because he normally
doesn't play, and he wanted his son to to see
him play. And his son has got very good joe
ingles and and and those are the kind of things
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that Mike Malone did not do. That Chris Finch did,
and that goes a long way with your players. I
know that he's got a very close relationship with Mike Conley.
Anthony Edwards, you know, believes in him. So I don't
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think at would be the fallout. And I'm not sure
that they're honestly, I'm not I'm not convinced that there
will be. I think that the alibi will be it was,
you know, the first year of Julius Randall. Randall's coming
along in a big way, like we just need to
we just need to hold this together and make the
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next step.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And I don't want to be a weird Heill for
me to, you know, to stand on and shout from
the hills that Chris Finch should be fired. That's not
the point of it. It's just I wonder where they go.
You know, like to me, if they were ousted for
the second straight year, because there's only so many places,
you know, Anthony Edwards isn't going anywhere, and so that's
where I just thought it was. It was unique with
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with Minnesota.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
You know, it's understandable, but I mean there's this is
one of the issues I think that that we have
with ownership and maybe media as well, which is like,
if you don't want a championship, it's a failure. Something's
got to change. And I think what you've seen with
Ocalahoma City, if they end up taking it this year,
(27:02):
is the fact that they've they've basically helped serve you know,
they they've allowed this team to growth and add little
tweak you know at Isaiah Hartenstein kind of figure out
where our young guys are going and what pieces do
we need to put around them, And I would I mean, look,
if you're getting to the conference finals two years in
(27:24):
a row, for me, if I'm being the Timberwolves are
honest with themselves about what the shortcoming is with this team.
The shortcoming is that Anthony Edward is twenty three years
old and you're looking at him to be the leader
of your team, and he's not ready to do that
at the level necessary to win a championship. That's the
(27:45):
bottom line.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, fair enough. I think strides have been made, but
I think that you're also correct in your assessment. Rick Buker,
thank you so much on this Monday holiday. We appreciate
it every week. Can't wait to talk to you down
the line next week. Have a good run, man.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Did you see what happened in yesterday?
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It was a busy day. It was a busy day,
but you're talking about Detroit.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I am just because it was something you don't get
to see every day, or here or here all in two.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
Here we go to pitch Swaying and I missed strike three,
one oh three. He rings up the radar gun. He
claps on the mound. Here come the Tigers from the outfield,
an infield and a big hug from Tylon Dingler on
the first ever complete game shutout for Tarrek Scooble, the
(28:36):
ace of the Tigers.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Great moments. Yeah, and it's a sad moment that we
have to celebrate a complete game in Major League Baseball.
Sad think it is like we shouldn't be celebrating somebody
pitching a whole game that should not happen.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
Chris Purfett, do you know how many complete games have
been pitched in the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I'm guessing one.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
No, I'm gonna guess three, eight, eight.
Speaker 9 (29:06):
It's still high, but still like that still feels incredible.
I'm sure if we go back through history, that's going
to seem appreciably extremely low.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, a complete game, I don't know. Do you know
if they were shutouts?
Speaker 9 (29:18):
I would have to go and Okay, Steve is sitting
here and tells me five complete game shows.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
May you Steve, You're the real MVP.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
My guess of one was an awful guess.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I knew it was more.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
But I did not know is that he also did
it on ninety four pitches, right, just threw one hundred
and three on that final pitch too. Yeah, and the.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Numbers I think out of that seventy something were strikes.
Like it was a very old school performance, which we
don't get to see a lot of.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
He threw ninety four pitches, and the pitcher that he
beat yesterday for The Guardian's Logan Allen through ninety seven
pitches and Allen lasted three and two thirds stop yes,
stop less pitches and Alan didn't even make it out
of the fourth.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Inning efficient, efficient and dominant through and through the last
pitch to be one hundred and three miles power. That
was crazy. But it is sad, Dan, how you put
it in perspective that we're celebrating this.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
It sounded like it was a no hitter. It was
only give it too. It is yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
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Speaker 2 (30:29):
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Speaker 2 (30:57):
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Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yes, please, would love that and also would love to
do a little game time with Steve Desager.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
This is game Time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 10 (31:15):
Good Evening slash Afternoon to you. Hey, I'm always your evenings.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
I'm not used to.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I got the show wrong ago. We're all sorry, bad dog.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
We all listen, Doug, I am.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Number one time. What am I talking about?
Speaker 4 (31:34):
You know which nobody knows what that is? Big deal,
little deal, no deal? Okay, no deal. Sure, that's what
you get when.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Some shows do big deal or no deal. Not every
show does little deal as well.
Speaker 10 (31:50):
If Howie Mandel had only thought of that anyway, it
would all be cleaner this intro if we had some
union help. But Caitlin Clark, if Indiana is gonna miss
at least two weeks with a string, she never missed a.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Game at Iowa.
Speaker 10 (32:02):
Can I point out that missing the next two weeks
at least means she will be missing the Indiana game
at Chicago, which they had placed on National TV on
a Saturday night, And most importantly, that is one of
the games people for the Commissioner's Cup. I'm sorry, I
couldn't say that with a straight face. The injury, the
time out, big deal, little deal or no deal.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
It's an enormous it is hit. It is an enormous deal,
not only for the primetime broadcast, but it is also
a season. And it's also a season that is not
necessarily long, right, good point, Not eighty two games, it's
forty games, and you missed two weeks of that of
that season that lasts twelve weeks or so, to makes
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a little bit more significant than you would thought. So
it's a big deal, but it will I hate to
say it, but I feel that in the WNBA will
to take a back seat for the next couple of
weeks because she's not around.
Speaker 10 (32:59):
And the commiss News Cup does not get the attention
it therefore deserves.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yes, correct, correct.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I thought it was a big deal before you mentioned
that the Chicago sky were on the schedule in the
next two weeks. I already thought it was a big
deal because it's like for those people that want to
say Caitlin Clark is not the driving force and the numbers,
you're about to see those numbers drop for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, it's probably the worst news that Angel Reese could
have ever have asked for. Honestly, and I said this
last week. I think the WNBA needs to separate them
because I feel that Angel Reese is holding Kitlin Clark's
back with all of this drama.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, the point was made, Hey, that Ryan Clark's still
talking about the foul from the opening night fowl. But again,
it's a primetime game when the sky aren't even apparently
that good.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
No, I don't think they've won yet.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Secondary issues.
Speaker 10 (33:50):
So you're saying with the Ryan Clark reference, like there
are shows during the day that just have to think
up things to talk about on television, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 10 (34:01):
Next item, the LA Dodgers start a series at Cleveland
tonight six pm Eastern. The Dodgers record the last three
weeks nine and eleven. They just lost a series at
the Mets. They'll be hosting the Yankees this weekend. They'll
be hosting the Mets for four next week, and then
the two weeks after that they have three at San
Diego and then host San Diego for four. Have not
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met the Padres yet this year. Dodgers current state. Big deal,
little deal or no deal.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I mean it's May so we're gonna say it's a
little I agree with you. Yeah, it's a little deal.
It is something to look at our pitching staff. Do
do you know any pictures available because we could use something.
That's how we feel right now.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Dan has the arm.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I believe it. I believe it. I think we could
use you for an inning or two. You don't need
a whole game.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
How about in two thirds and ninety four pitches do you.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Take to do that?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I remember in high school I could not top out
over sixty at the local pharagraund So I am not
throwing any heat. There is no gas in this.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Arm that might throw them off and we could get
a win or two.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Another off beat pitch by Buyer. That's his heater.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
There are little leaguers. Luckily it can throw record.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
But at least Otani is starting to throw to live batters.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
It gets me to my second Dodger point yesterday, and
he seemed to.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Be I think that was yeh, we can skip that guy.
Speaker 10 (35:32):
Yes, he's not going to be pitching for the Dodgers
before All Star Break. He actually threw the live hitters
for the first time in almost two years.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
If you only throw a dead hitters, was that the
cardboard hitters?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Someone just standing there?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
No, I think this is a in.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Other words, just the Rockies. He's been throwing it.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Just to the Rockies. It is a big deal because
I really didn't think that he was going to pitch
so soon. I think they were gonna try and protect
this arm.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
But I forgot it was an option, like truly, and
it's only because he's been so good otherwise, Like I
completely forgot it was an option.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
More home runs through the first fifty games than last
season already.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I feel any Jason Stewart, he's been sitting on the mic.
Do you have anything to add on this, Jason?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
All the Dodgers stuff, I've.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Got so much.
Speaker 9 (36:22):
I'm glad you brought me in with thirty seconds, But
I'm real happy that throwing.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Maybe he could play some right field and we can play.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
With the lineup a little bit. I have some option
if that, if the arm's available, he doesn't have to pitch,
necessarily helps him. You're not It helps you you're not
playing the Rockies, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Sadly, there are only so many of those games.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
By the way, Steve said the Rockies record on the
road earlier, it's not like their home is that much better. Yeah,
right now at six and twenty two.
Speaker 10 (36:51):
The bad thing is they started the year six and
twenty five. Overall, they've been even worse since at three
and nineteen.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
And that's game time. Thank you, Steve de Sager. She's
Monte billonnial So, I'm Dan Buyer. Chris Berfett and Jason
Stewart are here. What did you love from the weekend?
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Talk in that New York state of mind. We've got
a series in the East, a series in the East,
and I think things are cooking up in the West.
A happy Memorial Day to you, monty four hours you me,
let's get it done.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I mean, I'm not gonna lie. Best way to spend
my Memorial Day with you, Dan, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I don't care about barbecue like that, so I'm excited
to be here with you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It's gonna be a fun time. What as a vegetarian
would you have on the grill today?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
A veggie burger?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
A veggie burger? What about a nice big squash I egg, Yes,
I know, something like that.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
But I would like to part take in feeling like
I'm having a burger, you know. And I do love
an old school veggie patty, like with actual like veggies
and not the fake meat that we have now, but
definitely a veggie burger of some Sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, if you are grilling out having some fun today,
we appreciate it you hanging out with us. We love
to have your thoughts. You can always hit Mancy up
at Monte Blanos. You can find me. You can find
me by the way in a multiple of areas social media.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Stand tell us on exit.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You can also find me on Blue Sky, Dan Bayer, Yes,
I am on TikTok, buyer Talk as well, buy your
Grahams on Instagram, all of those formats. So reach out
anyway that you would like. It is going to be
a fun day. But I don't know if we're going
to have as much fun as Timothy Challamet had last
night in Indianapolis, and those New York Knicks as they
are back in the series beating the Indiana Pacers last
(01:49):
night now a two to one matchup. I don't want
to say that this was a series that we just
pushed to the side because the Pacers had gone up
too oh and winning both games to New York. But
for as greate as New York was Manci in the
Boston series, I think we had legitimate questions about them
considering how things played out in the first two games
(02:09):
of this Pacer series.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Naturally, naturally it was rough losses for New York. It
was impossible to walk away from that and not think that, oh,
this one, this one was a gut punch. There's ways
to lose where when you get blown out, you're not
just like I got blown out. Okac was not affected
or offended by their blowout loss. When you lose close
games when you should have won, when you can't close out,
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those hurt in a different way and they stay with you.
They stick with you. So I think most of us
were just wondering, can the Knicks get out of this
really gut punch of a funk. It wasn't just oh
you lost it, It was how you lost it hurt
a little much, and also losing at home. Losing at home,
and you know, everybody talks about it. Madison Square Garden
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at one point maybe was a place where visitors did
not want to go to, But now everybody wants to
go play there, you know what I mean, Like everyone
thrives there, they love it, So it's almost not an
advantage anymore for the Knicks. And that there were so
many layers of it, where naturally you were just like augh,
it looks like the Pacers may get away from this
series easily quote unquote, even though what the first two
(03:17):
games were decided by what's six eight points.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And in game one that they probably should have lost,
that they should it wasn't for a miracle comeback exactly.
That's the heads and tails of this on the both
sides of the coin. You can look at what happened
in Game one and say, if you're a Knicks fan, like,
we should have won that game, absolutely, But when you
when you step back in the series, in what is
such a thin series, you have to win those coin flips,
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You have to win those fifty to fifty games, and
ultimately that game still may come back to bite New
York absolutely, even if they even if they win in
Game four on Tuesday night against the Pacers in Indianapolis,
you're gonna look back and say, if we just would
have closed that one out, we'd be up three to
one at this point, worst case scenario, and we'd have
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three opportunities to close this out and everything would be
good because everything again went right for the Pacers in
that game one. Now last night, not everything went at
least at the end of Game one for the Pacers.
Everything went right last night. Things did not go right
for the next at the beginning, but Carl Anthony Towns
put on quite a show. We're gonna hear from Kat
because he did speak in the postgame, talked a little
(04:24):
bit about his confidence and his twenty point fourth quarter.
But this is the part of the New York Knicks
that if you're a Knicks fan, it's exhilarating. Yet it's
so frustrating because this is the Carl Anthony Towns that
you have wanted game in and game out. And while
they lost Game one, he had thirty five points in
that game. He was benched at times in Game two,
(04:47):
and so now in Game three, by the way, Monci
had four points entering the fourth quarter last night and
then turns it on with that twenty point effort. Magnificent
quarter for Karl Anthony Towns. But this is what makes
it so frustrating. Or a Knicks fan or a fan
of Cats, listen.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Frustrating and exhilarating, those are two words I'm very familiar
as a Clippers fan, so I feel for Knicks fans
how this entire series has gone watching Carl Anthony Towns
in that fourth quarter. I was laughing because it's like, dude,
we know you can do this. He just hasn't done
it when the game is on the line, like that
(05:22):
first quarter. Yeah, like it's great, but how did that
game end? And to see him do it while Jallian
Brunson was on the bench, and to take those threes
where he barely jumps, like he's not even really getting
off his feet and he just makes those shots. He
also like the way he reacts, Like I know some
people maybe like are turned off by the way he
(05:44):
like reacts, but I find him fun to watch and
I could not stop yeah zesty, like I love that,
and I was enjoying it so much, and I was like,
we know, again frustrating because it's in there. It's in there.
But the problem is, and a team like the Pacers
the entire season, they have relied on their entire roster
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to perform. The Knicks have relied on mister Clutch when
it comes down to it, so we don't get to
see these moments and they're not used to it. And
then yesterday, I don't know if Carl Anthony Tells was like, oh,
I guess I gotta do it. You're in foul trouble.
You're in foul trouble. I'm in foul trouble. Somebody's got
to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
This was the crazy thing though about Kat's fourth quarter
Monzi was it wasn't twenty points in the fourth quarter,
it was twenty points in seven minutes.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Of course it was, Yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It was from the twelve from the start of the
fourth quarter to about five minutes left in the game.
And that's so in that span of seven minutes he
had twenty And this is a guy with a fifty
five point game. I think in his career we've seen
him put these points up to do the way that
he did, not only with the three, had a three
(06:56):
point play or even did his little guns to bring
the next closer, and then an absolute monstrous dunk, which
then everybody feeds off of with the knicks and that's
what that's what you want from Carl Anthony Towns, but
you don't get every single game. This was Towns more
of a dilemma of not what Towns was going to
show up in the game, what voice was he going
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to use in the post game? Is it gonna be
the deep voice. Is it going to be the happy voice?
We're about to find out. This is Karl Anthony Towns
after last night's win over the Pacers.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
That's some opportunity to utilize all those hours I'll put
into the gym. And the game wasn't looking great for
me as well, but for all of us, and I
just wanted to do whatever it takes to help put
us in a position to win. And like I said,
it's a testament to my teammates, you know, having trusted
me and giving me, you know, putting me in spots
(07:46):
where I could succeed and and utilize my talent. So
that's just testing, you know. Shout out to the guys
in the locker room. You know this is a great
team win. But we got we know, we gotta be
better than we were tonight if we expect to find
a way to get another.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That leaned deeper. That was not as much zest on
that leaned in the deeper. Absolutely, job's not finished, as
Carby said, job's not finished up too, Oh, jobs not finished?
Why should I smile? Jobs not finished? That question, by
the way to Kobe Bryant, asked by the Great Ted
sobel La broadcasting legend. But the job is not finished
for the New York Knicks. But they finished the Pacers
(08:21):
off last night. Not only were Karl Anthony Town scoring
twenty points in a seven minute span. It's nice to
frame it in the fourth quarter, but it's more impressive
when you actually put what it was, and that was
seven minutes. They didn't have Jalen Brunson on the floor
from the seven minute marks till about ninety seconds left
in the game, and they played the Pacers even at
that point. And if you're the Knicks, that's extreme confidence
now that you have. As Tom Thibodeaux expanded his bench,
(08:44):
ended up playing Landry Shammitt last night, who hadn't seen
in this series. So Shamant ends up getting minutes. And
you have to because if this series is gonna go
six or seven games, which the Knicks are good to
need it too. If they're gonna win, they're gonna need contributions.
And they did it last night with Jalen Brunton and
follow trouble. Kat was in follow trouble. He brunts it
at four fouls and I mean early, so he was
(09:06):
he was in it. Kat was in it. But from
the seventh minute mark to the minute thirty mark. The
Knicks played the Pacers even without Jalen Brunson on the floor.
If anything, if you take anything from that, not even
Kat's performance or the buckets said Jalen Brunson made, or
Josh Hart's rebounding, is that your crew of I don't
want to say it's misfits, but it was a group
(09:27):
that wasn't necessarily used to playing together that much because
Jalen Brunson is usually always on the floor, played the
Pacers even.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, it was funny during the broadcast. I don't know
if it was Reggie Miller or if it was Van Gundy,
but they were like Landry Shammitt, he's such a great shooter,
and I was like, it doesn't matter. He hasn't played,
so even though he is a great shooter, he's got
to get in some sort of rhythm and he is
a great shooter. And it was about damn time that
Thibodeaux decided to go into his depth because you can
(09:58):
see them get gassed in the second half against the
Pacers because none of them play typically over forty minutes,
so you see them get gassed. So it was about
damn time you had to try it, you had to
make an adjustment. And just like games one and two
were gut punches to the Knicks, this win was also
a gut punch to the Pacers. They needed to win
(10:19):
like this in a way where it hurt. You came
back again down twenty. This is the nixt M you
got to. I guess they'd like to be down by twenty.
I don't understand. But then they get in there and
they hit them where it hurts. So it really kind
of makes you feel like this is more. This is
not over. It's not even close to over.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
The series. When you have it too Ozero and you
went on the home court says a lot. And it
was a big lead, like the Pacers getting both games
in New York. Not to downplay it, no, there's no
reason to downplay it. But when you look at each
of those games and how they played out, the game
one was the one that the Knicks threw away and
that's why it still could come back to haunt them.
The game two was the game. Yeah, the Pacers went
(10:57):
in and took it from them, even if the Knicks
had an opportunity to tie the game at the end.
That's a game that a road team wins in the
NBA playoffs, and now it's two to one. My question now,
and I can pose it to you and pose it
to anybody listening that wants to chime in. Do you
think the Knicks have momentum with this game?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
You don't like momentum?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I do not. I think the Timberwolves have momentum. Okay,
I just don't believe that it's always there. I don't
believe that each win in a series is momentum. I
think that each win has to be taken in a separate,
separate spot, in a vacuum, however you want to put it,
I don't. I think that the Knicks feel better about themselves,
(11:36):
but I don't think the only takeaway that I'll say
this about Indiana on why why? I think maybe something
could favor the Knicks if Aaron Neismith isn't one hundred percent,
even if he came back into the game with his
ankle injury, I felt they were a different team without
him out there, and he obviously saved them in Game one.
But we think of Siakam for all Grady was in
Game two, and we think of Tyre's Halliburton for all
(11:58):
Grady's been throughout these playoffs. Turner's been really good as well,
But I felt that they were missing something. They had
to play Ben Math and they had to play other
guys because Nie Smith wasn't available for that period, and
even though the Nie Smith came back in, he wasn't
the same guy that I felt that he was at
other points. So this ankle injury is bothering Nie Smith.
And the Knicks now feel that they have some encouragement
(12:18):
with their bench, then that is momentum on their side.
But I honestly think that this matchup is each game
is going to be its own entity, and that's why
actually Game one still will stick in the craw of
the New York Knicks because it's the one that you
should have had. So I don't believe that there's momentum
in the series. I think the Knicks got one. I
think they're in a better spot obviously that they were
after leaving game two or after leaving Game three than
(12:41):
they were leaving Game two. But I don't think this
is an overall reaching thing that we're going to see
the Knicks board on. I think there's just as good
a chance that Indiana can go in and winning Game four.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I think you explained that perfectly. The Knicks feel better,
They feel better going into game four, but they should
not have the momentum of the excitement that maybe Minta
so Ita has after a blowout win at home. No,
this is both of all. The three of these games
have been so close and the losses have been rough
for the losing team, So Nicks feel better. But I
(13:12):
hope that's that. That's just that they're looking at it
the way you're looking at it. It's one game, one
game at a time, isolated and who can adjust a
little bit better the next one. That's what it's going
to come down to. And it seems that way because
all three games have been so close. But yeah, I agree,
I don't think. I don't think there is momentum for
the next right now.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And there is the X factor, and that is Tyre's
Halliburton's dad will be allowed back in to game Bridge
Fieldhouse four, Game four in a suite after his banishment
that lasted a whole three games for the home games.
What a penalty. You want to talk about throwing the
book at a guy three home games. Maybe he would
(13:49):
have showed up in Cleveland. Maybe he would have been
in the garden. Yeah, I'm not sure, but Tyre's Halliburton's dad.
After taunting Giddison, Tetakoopo will be let back into the
building for Game four in a suite. I felt that
they should just put him in a suite anyway, Like
just don't just don't sit courtside where you have an
opportunity to run on the floor.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah. I thought it was a lot longer of a punishment,
And when you put it in that perspective, you're like, oh,
that's all he's missed. But I'm not against him being
able to come back. Yeah, come back, And that should
have been the response the whole time. Just put him
in his suite because he can't do much from there.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
The La County DA didn't want him out at all.
He wanted him to be a miss games for like
five years. That's a Menandez brother's joke that only us
in southern California would likely get, but maybe not the nation.
But still I thought it was apropos. The new DA
wanted to keep the Menendez brothers in jail, huh, and
the former DA, I think to try to get reelected.
(14:44):
It was like yeah, Menanda's brothers should be free. But
then when the new guy got elected, he's all like,
not stay in jail.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And I did not know that I was the latest.
I knew that they were looking at the case again.
I just didn't know that that was the.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Latest and now. And the DA did not get his way,
So in John Tyres, Haliburton's dad did get his place.
We will be back for Game four.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
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Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
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I'm reading wrong reads. Maybe I'm like the Indiana Pacers
(15:54):
last night. Rick, Happy Memorial Day, How are you?
Speaker 7 (15:57):
I'm good? Hey, it's a holiday, your work on holiday?
All things are forgiven. Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I had two pieces. They looked somewhat similar, and it
was my bad. I grabbed the wrong one. Karl Anthony Towns,
he's hitting miss, but boy was he a hit last
night in the fourth quarter. Montia and I were just
talking about how frustrating it must be. But last night
is the night where you reaped the fruits of all
of his labor. Do the Knicks need this Karl Anthony
(16:25):
Towns like takeover Towns to win this series? Or can
they get by if he's just even a little less
of what he was last night?
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Oh? God, hope not. Let's talk. Let's hope not, because
I don't know that you can count on twenty points
from Karl Anthony Towns in the fourth quarter for every game.
I do believe that sort of maintaining I mean the
big the big thing is controlling the pace, making this
a game where first team to one hundred wins. I
(16:53):
think that's really the only way that the Knicks have
a chance of winning this. And and I do like
the move of having Mitchell Robinson in the starting lineup
and playing him more. And maybe Josh Hart left nothing
against Josh Hart, but it really is not a function
of what Josh Hart is or isn't doing. It's finding
(17:16):
ways to free up Jalen Brunson to do what he does.
And without a big like Mitchell Robinson setting screens, I
just don't know that the pick and roll and his
ability to get free one on one or without any
sort of help is is going to get the job done.
So look, the nixt are up against it overall. Do
(17:39):
I think that this win changes my view of who's
going to win the series? No, I hope that I
was hoping that it was going to be a long,
entertaining series. I guess this gives me a little bit
of hope that we might get that. But the fact
of the matter is Indiana's just they have too much
(18:01):
for uh for the Knicks. It's been it's been a
good run. But the bell weather is Pascal Siakam for
the Indiana Pacers. It's so funny, like we I always
feel like I need to apologize or I need to
like introduce anybody or anything when I talk about the Pacers.
Is it the world? Like, Hey, I got to tell
(18:22):
you about this, this brand new thing over here. You
may not have heard about him to the Pacers and
all these players that are pretty good, and you've probably
never heard of them either, But no, Pascal Siaka every
series for whatever reason, and Game three in particular, has
loses his matchup by a by a vast his his
(18:43):
plus minuses is off the charge bad, and the rest
of the series it's it's to the good. This it
happened again. It happened in the first round, it happened
in the second round, it happened in in Game three.
But generally does not happen. And it's not like he's
scoring thirty every game or whatever. It's simply he wins
(19:04):
his matchup and he didn't in this in this last game.
I don't expect that to happen again. I think he's
a difficult matchup for the Knicks in general, or in particular,
and so I'd like to come in here thinking, you know,
advertising that Hey, now we got a series, and now
it's going to be different, and Karl Anthony Towns is
the answer. And I just I just think the Pacers
(19:29):
have too much for the Knicks, and I just hope
the Knicks make it interesting for as long as they
can before we get to the the OKC Pacers Final
that you and Manzi and me will be buying nobody
else in Rick.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I don't know if you saw during that like seven
minute stretch of Karl Anthony Town's on the fourth quarter,
he went in for a dunk and then he seemed
to grab his knee for the remainder of the game,
even standing during a free throw, he kept grabbing his knee,
and he looked a little bit banged up. Yeah, is
that something you think they should be worried about. Nobody
has said anything, but I noticed after that drive he
(20:05):
kept grabbing his knee.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
I what Carl Anthony does generally, his gestures and his
like everything that he does, he looks like he's hurt
when he gets off the way he runs. I mean
it's right he does.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
No, you're not wrong.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
You are, but he's running get back on but he's
going going on offense or going back on defense. When
he's running, it looks like, oh man, did somebody put
some like rocks in his shoes or something. I yeah,
he might. You know. Look the number one, most everybody
(20:43):
is dealing with some kind of physical issue at this
point in the season. And two I don't I haven't
seen any reports as far as as far as the
knee issue. But honestly, Karl Anthony Talis is probably like, yeah,
I got this knee problem, so I'm only going to
shoot threes. I hope that's okay with you guys. Is
(21:04):
this kind of what he wants to do anyway?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Fs? What I mean inside of Rick Buker joining us
here at the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio,
she's Bonti blainios. I'm Dan Byer in for Doug today.
So you don't believe in the Timberwolves, or at least
don't believe in them as much to win this series,
but there is momentum. Why do you still think Oklahoma
City has the edge in the West.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Just because the Minnesota Timberwolves From a talent standpoint, I
could make a case whether they're the better team and
that they could win the series, but for the better
part of this year to have reflected in their regular
season records and even in the early rounds while they
had two gentlemen sweeps, they don't play hard for forty
(21:47):
eight minutes. And there's just a certain point you get
to in the playoffs where you're going to face opponents
where you have to play maybe not forty eight but
forty four. What he five like, you can't have the
kind of long lapses that the that the Minnesota Timberwells have.
(22:07):
And the maddening thing is they showed you what they're
capable of when they play at the level that they
did in Game three, But I can count on one
hand the number of times that I've seen in them
play with that intensity for an entire game, and that
includes the you know, their their leader, Anthony Edwards. I mean,
(22:29):
he's probably the number one culprit in terms of this.
Can't figure out when he's going to play hard or
when he's going to show you everything that he's capable
of at both ends of the floor, particularly offensively and
attacking the paint even if he's not scoring. When he's
just being decisive and aggressive. It changes the whole dynamic
(22:52):
for them. You know, one of the reasons that they
shot the three wells so well in Game three was
simply because Anthony Edwards was being decisive, so that the
guys who are getting the ball aren't wondering if they're
going to get it or when they do get it.
It's because Ant decided I can't get anywhere here. It's
(23:12):
your turn, as opposed to I'm getting into the paint. Okay,
now I've got too much attention here. Let me kick
it out and somebody's got an open three. It sounds subtle,
but that makes a huge difference for shooters. And so
if I knew that I was going to get this
Ant for you know, another three four games, I would
(23:34):
have an entirely different opinion about who is going to win.
And you know the suspense in this series, but I
just I haven't seen that consistently from Ant, so there's
no reason for me to believe it. I'm going to
see it going forward.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Okay, So I have a it's not a theory, and
I believe more in the Timberwolves than you do in
this series. But I also know how the NBA goes.
So the Timberwolves do bow out against Okac and it's
the second straight year West and Conference Finals. There's gonna
be money, there's gonna be contracts, Like is is Chris
Finch like in in danger because we saw Michael Malone
(24:09):
bi Austin at the end of the regular season. You know,
not even two years removed from a title. It would
be the second straight year changes Obviously you'd have to
try to think that something needs to be done to
get over that hump. What could be the fallout for
Minnesota if they don't get it done this time around.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
I honestly, we've got brand new ownership, so there's always
that always raises a question in terms of who they
want going forward. But as far as Chris Finch, in
his relationship with the guys in the in the locker room,
it's completely different than than the one that Mike Malone
had with UH with guys you know, the the the
(24:54):
It's just it's a different relationship. Mike. Mike for all
the years that he was there, never cultivated a close
relationship with with guys like Aaron Gordon and Michael Porter Jr.
And they went through some things and I'm blanking on
the guy on the bench. The off se that who's
(25:17):
Chris Finch had made a great gesture for him and
his son got him into a game because he normally
doesn't play, and he wanted his son to to see
him play. And his son has got very good joe
ingles and and and those are the kind of things
(25:38):
that Mike Malone did not do. That Chris Finch did,
and that goes a long way with your players. I
know that he's got a very close relationship with Mike Conley.
Anthony Edwards, you know, believes in him. So I don't
(25:59):
think at would be the fallout. And I'm not sure
that they're honestly, I'm not I'm not convinced that there
will be. I think that the alibi will be it was,
you know, the first year of Julius Randall. Randall's coming
along in a big way, like we just need to
we just need to hold this together and make the
(26:20):
next step.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And I don't want to be a weird Heill for
me to, you know, to stand on and shout from
the hills that Chris Finch should be fired. That's not
the point of it. It's just I wonder where they go.
You know, like to me, if they were ousted for
the second straight year, because there's only so many places,
you know, Anthony Edwards isn't going anywhere, and so that's
where I just thought it was. It was unique with
(26:41):
with Minnesota.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
You know, it's understandable, but I mean there's this is
one of the issues I think that that we have
with ownership and maybe media as well, which is like,
if you don't want a championship, it's a failure. Something's
got to change. And I think what you've seen with
Ocalahoma City, if they end up taking it this year,
(27:02):
is the fact that they've they've basically helped serve you know,
they they've allowed this team to growth and add little
tweak you know at Isaiah Hartenstein kind of figure out
where our young guys are going and what pieces do
we need to put around them, And I would I mean, look,
if you're getting to the conference finals two years in
(27:24):
a row, for me, if I'm being the Timberwolves are
honest with themselves about what the shortcoming is with this team.
The shortcoming is that Anthony Edward is twenty three years
old and you're looking at him to be the leader
of your team, and he's not ready to do that
at the level necessary to win a championship. That's the
(27:45):
bottom line.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, fair enough. I think strides have been made, but
I think that you're also correct in your assessment. Rick Buker,
thank you so much on this Monday holiday. We appreciate
it every week. Can't wait to talk to you down
the line next week. Have a good run, man.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Did you see what happened in yesterday?
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It was a busy day. It was a busy day,
but you're talking about Detroit.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I am just because it was something you don't get
to see every day, or here or here all in two.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
Here we go to pitch Swaying and I missed strike three,
one oh three. He rings up the radar gun. He
claps on the mound. Here come the Tigers from the outfield,
an infield and a big hug from Tylon Dingler on
the first ever complete game shutout for Tarrek Scooble, the
(28:36):
ace of the Tigers.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Great moments. Yeah, and it's a sad moment that we
have to celebrate a complete game in Major League Baseball.
Sad think it is like we shouldn't be celebrating somebody
pitching a whole game that should not happen.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
Chris Purfett, do you know how many complete games have
been pitched in the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I'm guessing one.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
No, I'm gonna guess three, eight, eight.
Speaker 9 (29:06):
It's still high, but still like that still feels incredible.
I'm sure if we go back through history, that's going
to seem appreciably extremely low.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, a complete game, I don't know. Do you know
if they were shutouts?
Speaker 9 (29:18):
I would have to go and Okay, Steve is sitting
here and tells me five complete game shows.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
May you Steve, You're the real MVP.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
My guess of one was an awful guess.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I knew it was more.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
But I did not know is that he also did
it on ninety four pitches, right, just threw one hundred
and three on that final pitch too. Yeah, and the.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Numbers I think out of that seventy something were strikes.
Like it was a very old school performance, which we
don't get to see a lot of.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
He threw ninety four pitches, and the pitcher that he
beat yesterday for The Guardian's Logan Allen through ninety seven
pitches and Allen lasted three and two thirds stop yes,
stop less pitches and Alan didn't even make it out
of the fourth.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Inning efficient, efficient and dominant through and through the last
pitch to be one hundred and three miles power. That
was crazy. But it is sad, Dan, how you put
it in perspective that we're celebrating this.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
It sounded like it was a no hitter. It was
only give it too. It is yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
She's Moontoblano. So I'm Dan Byer. We are in for
Doug Gottlieb on this Memorial Day.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
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(30:56):
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Pmped up on my phone said you want to preset
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Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yes, please, would love that and also would love to
do a little game time with Steve Desager.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
This is game Time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 10 (31:15):
Good Evening slash Afternoon to you. Hey, I'm always your evenings.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
I'm not used to.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I got the show wrong ago. We're all sorry, bad dog.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
We all listen, Doug, I am.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Number one time. What am I talking about?
Speaker 4 (31:34):
You know which nobody knows what that is? Big deal,
little deal, no deal? Okay, no deal. Sure, that's what
you get when.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Some shows do big deal or no deal. Not every
show does little deal as well.
Speaker 10 (31:50):
If Howie Mandel had only thought of that anyway, it
would all be cleaner this intro if we had some
union help. But Caitlin Clark, if Indiana is gonna miss
at least two weeks with a string, she never missed a.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Game at Iowa.
Speaker 10 (32:02):
Can I point out that missing the next two weeks
at least means she will be missing the Indiana game
at Chicago, which they had placed on National TV on
a Saturday night, And most importantly, that is one of
the games people for the Commissioner's Cup. I'm sorry, I
couldn't say that with a straight face. The injury, the
time out, big deal, little deal or no deal.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
It's an enormous it is hit. It is an enormous deal,
not only for the primetime broadcast, but it is also
a season. And it's also a season that is not
necessarily long, right, good point, Not eighty two games, it's
forty games, and you missed two weeks of that of
that season that lasts twelve weeks or so, to makes
(32:48):
a little bit more significant than you would thought. So
it's a big deal, but it will I hate to
say it, but I feel that in the WNBA will
to take a back seat for the next couple of
weeks because she's not around.
Speaker 10 (32:59):
And the commiss News Cup does not get the attention
it therefore deserves.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yes, correct, correct.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I thought it was a big deal before you mentioned
that the Chicago sky were on the schedule in the
next two weeks. I already thought it was a big
deal because it's like for those people that want to
say Caitlin Clark is not the driving force and the numbers,
you're about to see those numbers drop for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, it's probably the worst news that Angel Reese could
have ever have asked for. Honestly, and I said this
last week. I think the WNBA needs to separate them
because I feel that Angel Reese is holding Kitlin Clark's
back with all of this drama.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, the point was made, Hey, that Ryan Clark's still
talking about the foul from the opening night fowl. But again,
it's a primetime game when the sky aren't even apparently
that good.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
No, I don't think they've won yet.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Secondary issues.
Speaker 10 (33:50):
So you're saying with the Ryan Clark reference, like there
are shows during the day that just have to think
up things to talk about on television, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 10 (34:01):
Next item, the LA Dodgers start a series at Cleveland
tonight six pm Eastern. The Dodgers record the last three
weeks nine and eleven. They just lost a series at
the Mets. They'll be hosting the Yankees this weekend. They'll
be hosting the Mets for four next week, and then
the two weeks after that they have three at San
Diego and then host San Diego for four. Have not
(34:22):
met the Padres yet this year. Dodgers current state. Big deal,
little deal or no deal.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I mean it's May so we're gonna say it's a
little I agree with you. Yeah, it's a little deal.
It is something to look at our pitching staff. Do
do you know any pictures available because we could use something.
That's how we feel right now.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Dan has the arm.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I believe it. I believe it. I think we could
use you for an inning or two. You don't need
a whole game.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
How about in two thirds and ninety four pitches do you.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Take to do that?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I remember in high school I could not top out
over sixty at the local pharagraund So I am not
throwing any heat. There is no gas in this.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Arm that might throw them off and we could get
a win or two.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Another off beat pitch by Buyer. That's his heater.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
There are little leaguers. Luckily it can throw record.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
But at least Otani is starting to throw to live batters.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
It gets me to my second Dodger point yesterday, and
he seemed to.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Be I think that was yeh, we can skip that guy.
Speaker 10 (35:32):
Yes, he's not going to be pitching for the Dodgers
before All Star Break. He actually threw the live hitters
for the first time in almost two years.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
If you only throw a dead hitters, was that the
cardboard hitters?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Someone just standing there?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
No, I think this is a in.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Other words, just the Rockies. He's been throwing it.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Just to the Rockies. It is a big deal because
I really didn't think that he was going to pitch
so soon. I think they were gonna try and protect
this arm.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
But I forgot it was an option, like truly, and
it's only because he's been so good otherwise, Like I
completely forgot it was an option.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
More home runs through the first fifty games than last
season already.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I feel any Jason Stewart, he's been sitting on the mic.
Do you have anything to add on this, Jason?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
All the Dodgers stuff, I've.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Got so much.
Speaker 9 (36:22):
I'm glad you brought me in with thirty seconds, But
I'm real happy that throwing.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Maybe he could play some right field and we can play.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
With the lineup a little bit. I have some option
if that, if the arm's available, he doesn't have to pitch,
necessarily helps him. You're not It helps you you're not
playing the Rockies, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Sadly, there are only so many of those games.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
By the way, Steve said the Rockies record on the
road earlier, it's not like their home is that much better. Yeah,
right now at six and twenty two.
Speaker 10 (36:51):
The bad thing is they started the year six and
twenty five. Overall, they've been even worse since at three
and nineteen.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
And that's game time. Thank you, Steve de Sager. She's
Monte billonnial So, I'm Dan Buyer. Chris Berfett and Jason
Stewart are here. What did you love from the weekend?
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